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What's up everybody, BT 

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unleashed with you on a Tuesday.
Everybody's doing all right. 

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I hope certainly ready to have a
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the WBC championship. 
I'm fired up about that tonight.

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John Fanta. 
I love this guy. 

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This guy is a is a rising made 
not even a rising star. 

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He's a rising mega star. 
We'll do some college hoops. 

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John's going to join me today at
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Obviously tomorrow. 
I got to be honest, where the J 

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rod my mind is mushed here in 
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figure out how I'm going to how 
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in San Diego. 
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little overwhelming. 
So what I think I might just do 

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is just, I don't know, just 
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just open up my phone and go 
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Kicking I think that'd be great 
that I think that'd be awesome I

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mean you're able to kind of go 
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phone. 
So there you go. 

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I have to wait do. 
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can I just go right to YouTube? 
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easy. 
I got to figure that out, man. 

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So I'm looking forward to that. 
So John's going to join me in a 

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little bit tomorrow. 
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S&Y and the great another rising
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to join us here, by the way, Get
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So she covers. 
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Is that amazing or what? 
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tomorrow at 10, right around 10.
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John's Big East beat. 
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of the talents at SNY and local,
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at the garden quite a bit. 
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of broadcaster. 
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tomorrow. 
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we'll hit it all. 
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We'll have a lot of fun with 
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That'll be at least an hour. 
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All right, let's get the now. 
Yesterday, J Rod, you remember 

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right? 
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about, I think somebody had it 
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Yeah, my my boy sent the text at
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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about the WBC in the World 
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That's all right. 
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to my guy here. 
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toward the end of the show. 
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it's a big story or if I've got 
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I obviously do, I'll just jump 
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I said that yesterday, so let's 
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I got something on soda as well.
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So it is exactly all right. 
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no hijacking this what Aaron 
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preference, a WBC championship 
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better and he's not wrong, but 
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have really is the way sports is
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know, truly the fan who helped 
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who's reached into his or her 
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the games are on local TV pre 
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much so that I don't think that 
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atmosphere is better than the 
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I absolutely agree with him. 
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the Yankee crowd. 
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of the importance of the WBC 
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he would feel if and when he 
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against Dominican Republic and 
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that that pent. 
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Venezuela, that palpable like 
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constant that just it never 
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It never really goes away. 
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match or, you know, it's like a 
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match, like a big, you know, one
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where it's just a supercharge 
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from the moment, you know, 
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behind the curtain hits the 
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there's always an oh and an ah, 
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does a flip, somebody's outside,
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It's insane, but it's just, it's
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I was at the World Series game 
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that, the peak moment, you know,
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know, I'm sure in LA when Cortez
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Freddie Friedman, like what it 
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Stadium and, you know, a couple 
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just doesn't. 
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mean as much. 
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It's a World Series, but it's a 
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building. 
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take an issue with that. 
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what the problem is. 
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numbers yesterday. 
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So, you know, the WBCI don't 
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I didn't get too wrapped up into
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introduced, right. 
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attendance in in total. 
So about the growth here of this

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event, which to me is getting 
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And it's like, it's becoming 
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And I admit I've gone from tepid
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almost like curiosity, like, all
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You know, you see the USA 
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are on Major League teams and 
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facing each other. 
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thought it was awful, but I'm, 
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I think the WBC has transformed 
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And I just don't understand all 
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I really don't, I don't know 
the, listen, I've said this a 

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lot. 
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know we've got to fill their 
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the, the amount of energy that 
people now spend on stuff that 

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they don't like, it's amazing to
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Like if you don't like it, don't
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Like that's, that's the other 
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I don't know if you guys might. 
We spent a lot on on Joe B's 

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comments yesterday. 
As expected, that got a lot of 

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traction what he said about WF 
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check it out on the channel. 
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things have changed a lot. 
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yesterday I was pretty long and 
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which was the long, I think was 
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longest one I've done since I 
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What do you think? 
4 hours is too long because you 

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get repetitive and you start 
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of prop up and, and, and, and, 
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that, that good emotion that, 
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fire, you know, but, and when, 
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almost got to do that. 
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I'm just saying the way it is. 
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many people who oppose the WBC 
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these rants about the WBC. 
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I I don't get it anyway. 
So the attendance growth here J 

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Rod, check this out. 
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start, but curious where this 
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people watching the game 730 I 
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next one which was O 9 you went 
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There you go. 
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maybe different venues smaller, 
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went down a little bit to 781, 
which was still 50,000 more than

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the first one. 
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So you go from 781,000 in 2013 
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So we're ticking towards a 
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it was 1.12. 
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far it's been 1.37 million. 
So there you go. 

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Yeah. 
So that that that's growth here.

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I don't know about the TV 
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I'm watching tonight. 
I can't wait to see McClain 

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pitch. 
I know McClain got knocked 

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around a little bit by, by some 
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last game, I thought he threw 
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We just gave up a couple of home
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But I've got full faith in 
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I think that the United States 
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So I don't know. 
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everybody is, is up to their 
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Not everybody knows all the 
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And you're not going to get 
overly wrapped up in the Yankees

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spring training and the Mets 
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And, you know, if the NFL draft 
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little bit post combine, you 
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going to really go nuts at this 
point with 15 or 16 games to go 

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in the NBA regular season? 
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you know what I mean? 
So it's kind of a a bit of a 

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treadmill of sports talk. 
There's not a ton to do, but so 

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and I, I, I, I think I've always
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don't have a lot to say, the 
easy default is to just lamp a, 

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something like it. 
It's natural. 

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You know what I mean? 
It's a natural reaction. 

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I love it. 
I've I've really come to enjoy 

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it myself. 
Yeah, no, I mean WBCS fun 

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getting people into it. 
I I just don't see. 

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So the controversy is like what?
Like people don't like it 

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because it, oh, it's not that 
serious. 

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So it's kind of fun. 
It's almost like they look at it

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like a Pro Bowl type thing or 
like I don't. 

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No, no, no, it's not that. 
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opposite. 
I think, listen, I think there's

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two schools of thought here. 
I think some people and this 

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part I certainly understand. 
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before I, before I came on the 
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McClain starting tonight. 
Great. 

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And, you know, I'm excited for 
him. 

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It's a different, you know, it's
a totally different monster. 

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It's like it's it's like unlike 
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the major leagues. 
But you know, we're sitting here

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holding our breath and praying 
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happened that that I think some 
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that. 
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with Edwin Diaz a couple of 
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with the knee, with the knee 
injury Patella. 

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I get it. 
Like, you know, I see Aaron 

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Judge on Corker throw from right
field to gun down. 

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Was that Tatis? 
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whomever it was. 
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right. 
I'm like, all right, you know, 

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do you really need to unleash 90
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Day? 
Which by the way, happy Saint 

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Patty's Day, everybody, you 
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that? 
But he came out unscathed and 

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and that's the price of 
business. 

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And no, like, I think that some 
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NBA All Star game, whatever the 
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Star game, it's because it 
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competitive tone that these 
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season. 
This is the complete antithesis 

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of anything. 
It's it's jacked up. 

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There's so much patriotism and 
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everybody's country and the 
different countries, you know, 

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the different ethnicities really
approach this differently. 

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Some people celebrate 
differently. 

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There's just a different vibe 
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And nobody's complaining about 
that. 

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It's like benign and boring and 
nobody's playing hard. 

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I I I I don't know. 
I I just think that some people,

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number one, Jared, and as you 
get older, you're going to learn

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this, man. 
Unfortunately, it's a way of 

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life. 
As you get older, you are, if 

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you haven't already learned 
this. 

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There are far too many people in
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to be negative to be angry. 
Yeah, I mean, right. 

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What what what's the fucking 
problem? 

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It's incredibly, it's incredibly
competitive baseball. 

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All the stars in the Galaxy of 
Major League Baseball, basically

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all of them. 
You had Judge, you got Tatish, 

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you had Soto, you got Guerrero, 
you got you got Otani. 

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What's the problem? 
You got schemes, you got you had

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school ball for a minute. 
You got McClain tonight. 

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And people are complaining about
this. 

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I think it's a gift from the 
baseball gods. 

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It's phenomenal. 
I don't really, I don't want it 

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to end. 
I want to keep going. 

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Let's go. 
Yes, Sir. 

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Yes, Sir, I'm fired. 
Up today, J Rod. 

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Yeah, no, going to be a going to
be a great game tonight. 

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I'm excited, excited to TuneIn. 
This was interesting though. 

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Now, now, now, now before we get
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back to judge's comments for a 
second. 

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I think that, and this is just 
this is really just either being

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some people might believe this 
and if they really do, then then

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I respect that. 
But I think a lot of the 

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negativity it can back on 
judge's comments. 

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I have no problem with what he 
said at all. 

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I matter of fact, I agree with 
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difference. 
Yet remember, man, I was in the 

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building in 1996 when the 
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championship since 1978. 
I was in the upper deck, as high

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as you could go behind home 
plate with one of my best 

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friends who I grew up with, who 
I played high, a little bit of 

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college ball. 
He wound up transferring, right?

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And we got, there were two in 
the afternoon and we hit all the

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bars. 
The game didn't start till late.

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You can imagine what kind of 
shape we were, right? 

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It was it we were in. 
It was ridiculous, right? 

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And the clientele, the energy, 
it was did. 

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Now the stadium was built 
different, the overhanging right

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feel like you had that 
intimidating overhang. 

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The acoustics rule different. 
The tunnels, like the tunnels 

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were really tight, like it's 
like you were walking into a 

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mosh pit if you were the 
opposition. 

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It really was intimidating. 
And back then the price points, 

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while they were certainly 
getting high for 1996 in, in 

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retrospect, like the percentage 
of increase was not commensurate

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with what we have now. 
It's just not, it's not even 

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close. 
So you basically had more blue 

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collar fans. 
You just did it. 

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So Judge is right. 
What I think some people took 

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and then hijacked is that they 
are trying to equate what he 

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said, which is not true at all, 
by the way. 

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He didn't say that where they're
they're they're hijacking. 

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They're putting words in his 
mouth saying, wow, Aaron Judge 

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basically believes that winning 
the WBC championship would be 

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the same as winning a World 
Series for the Yankees. 

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Does anybody really think that 
that's what Aaron Judge means? 

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I mean, if you think that, then 
you just you lost. 

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I don't know what to tell you. 
How do you possibly extrapolate 

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that? 
Let's get that back up on the 

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board there. 
Jay, please. 

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How do you take away that 
message from this? 

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He's asked, he was directly 
asked about the atmosphere, 

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which is phenomenal at the WBC 
asked about it. 

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Hey, Aaron, what is it like? 
You know, can you can you tell 

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us what it's like being on the 
field with this WBC atmosphere 

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and you know, how it may be 
compares to Major League 

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Baseball and maybe the World 
Series and some other stuff? 

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Quote, I'll say it's been 
bigger. 

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The World Series I was in versus
the crowd here in the one we had

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against Mexico, it's bigger and 
better than the World Series. 

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He's talking about the crowd, 
not necessarily the prestige or 

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the honor or the ultimate 
achievement of winning the WBC 

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versus maybe someday winning a 
World Series. 

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By no means is even remotely 
implying that. 

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And if that's what you deduce 
from these words, I don't know 

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what to tell you. 
Quote, the passion that these 

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fans have representing their 
country. 

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This is undeniable representing 
some of their favorite players. 

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There's nothing like it. 
That's what you dream that he 

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gets a little mushy here and 
again I bat in the backyard. 

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You know, wiffle ball thinking 
about this moment. 

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No, but I know what he means. 
He's basically saying because we

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all did this, whether and I 
would pretend that I was in the 

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World Series. 
I, I, I obviously would. 

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We all did that, you know, try 
to smack a tennis ball over the,

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you know, over the little fence 
and the wiffle ball. 

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You take your buddy deep, you 
trotting around the bases, you 

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pretend you're Mattingly in the 
World Series. 

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Not the WBC. 
Big spot, though. 

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That's the point. 
Big spot, big situation. 

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It gives me chills right now 
thinking about how special that 

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was. 
And I try to take that moment 

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every game, look around, 
appreciate the crowd and 

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appreciate the moment. 
The Hell's wrong with that? 

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That is just one of the high 
characters, greatest players of 

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all time giving you an honest 
assessment about a pretty cool 

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event. 
Enjoy it. 

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Oh, J Rod, Listen, quick, Long 
story short with BT time, you're

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right. 
We got a little bit of graphic 

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for that. 
Then we got to get a graphic for

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that. 
You know, maybe like a little 

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violin. 
A little short. 

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Stretch. 
Nobody stretches out a short 

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story like your boy. 
At least I own it, you know? 

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I know that. 
So this is funny. 

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It's funny what triggers my 
triggers my mind and some of 

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these vivid memories from when I
was a kid. 

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You know, I was talking about 
like hitting the ball over the 

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fence. 
And obviously now as I got a 

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little bit older, we would play 
on the street and we had like, 

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you know, the streets in 
Brooklyn are fairly narrow and 

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it's like car, car, car, car, 
car, car, car, fairly modest 

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house, house, not not much 
driveway. 

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House, house, house, house, 
house, right? 

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So we would play long ways, 
which was, which was great 

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because then you had like the 
telephone pole and that was only

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like 2 kids on the street, me 
and Tommy who would hit it over.

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It was like self hitting and it 
was, it was a shot dude. 

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You had to get high and far and 
like, but it was a bigger field 

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right? 
Then there was a little tiny 

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field where we would just kind 
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And now we were going, it's hard
to describe, but we basically 

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had two fields right on the same
St. 

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That's as we got older, when I 
was really young before, you 

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know, I had a lot of friends on 
the street and I didn't really 

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know anybody yet, you know, like
5 years old, whatever 6 I 

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remember. 
And my parents still have it, 

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this massive walnut tree in the 
backyard, massive walnut tree. 

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I mean, it's got to be over 100 
years old really. 

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It's, it's awesome. 
And I would take once, well, I 

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started out by taking the 
walnuts and then like trying to 

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throw them like I was Greg 
Meadows or Ozzie Smith at the 

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tree, right? 
And then I'm like, I think that 

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I can hit these things. 
So I started hitting them at 

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like some of the houses behind 
me. 

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I don't know what I was 
thinking. 

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And then I, I discovered, let's 
see. 

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So we had 1-2, three, wait, 1234
houses down in, in. 

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So I'm in my backyard 4 houses 
down there was this family, 

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really, really nice, no kids my 
age. 

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I didn't really know them that 
well. 

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And they had this old school, 
you know, if you're like an 

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Italian, you know, Brooklyn, you
can totally see this is like a 

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metal overhang shed just so you 
can have like BBQ whatever. 

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All right. 
And I would take these walnuts 

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dude and I would fire them up in
the air because I could easily 

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reach 44 houses down. 
I would fire them up in the air 

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and like. 
And I would wait for that dude. 

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The noise that it made don't. 
Want to hit the shed? 

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God, it sounded like World War 
Three. 

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It was my boom and they never 
knew where it was coming from. 

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And then of course I would run 
and I would hide anyway. 

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That's so funny. 
Dude, I just thought about that 

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like I think about now, right? 
It is funny because a lot of 

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people complain like kids today,
they don't mix it up in the 

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streets and they don't play like
they used to. 

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And everything's organized and 
there's an element that's that's

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certainly true. 
And you got the horseshit phones

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and the stupid digital stuff. 
And luckily we have a pretty 

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good balance in our house and in
our home. 

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Both of our kids play a lot of 
sports. 

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And my son got a phone for his 
11th birthday, but he's not nuts

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with it. 
He's really not. 

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We monitor it, well, all that 
stuff. 

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But it, it, it is kind of true 
where there's a lot of like you 

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got to drop off and when they 
were young, oh, let's have a 

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play date. 
I remember my wife saying so and

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so's coming over for a play date
or he's got invited to a pop 

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like play date that just sounds 
play date. 

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He says he's going over to his 
friend's house to hang out. 

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Yeah, like, I don't know. 
I would, but I I wonder how I 

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would react if I had a walnut 
tree in our yard now. 

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And someone was just bombing 
them onto a shed and you're at 

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00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,680
your place. 
No, no, no. 

445
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,800
Well, that's one. 
I was thinking the other, if my 

446
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,200
son was taking the walnut and he
located a house, you know, 3 or 

447
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,680
4 homes. 
And now the homes are bigger 

448
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,640
here and there's more space, 
whatever, more trees you can 

449
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,000
hide. 
It's easier to get away with 

450
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,880
stuff, I guess. 
But I wonder how I would react 

451
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,040
to that. 
I'd probably laugh, yeah. 

452
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280
It's the kind of thing you get 
them in trouble for but you're 

453
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,240
secretly proud of, I think. 
I would agree with that. 

454
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,480
I would absolutely agree with 
that. 

455
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,480
Hey, we can't be doing that. 
Meanwhile, you give him a wink, 

456
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,560
give him a little hat on the 
ass. 

457
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,640
Hat a boy. 
All right, let's get this up. 

458
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,720
This. 
Let me actually, Yeah. 

459
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,800
What is? 
Why would he say this? 

460
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,520
Why would Juan Soto say this? 
I'm not really sure why Juan 

461
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,240
Soto would say this. 
Quote, we show the world who's 

462
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,360
the best team in baseball. 
That's all I got to say. 

463
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,320
And quote, you lost. 
You lost the game. 

464
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,680
I understand there were some bad
calls. 

465
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,600
There's no doubt that the Dr. 
got hosed. 

466
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,480
I mean that that last one was 2 
1/2 inches out of the zone. 

467
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,720
I get it. 
And you know, for the next WBC, 

468
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,640
there should be the ABS 
automated ball strike system, 

469
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,880
which will be good and provided.
And there was some other calls 

470
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,200
too. 
I get it that if the Dominican 

471
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,560
had their challenges, they could
have utilized them at that point

472
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,840
and things would have been 
reversed. 

473
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,760
And maybe it's a different 
outcome, but nobody wants to 

474
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840
hear that. 
I mean, you, you didn't win the 

475
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,320
game. 
You lost. 

476
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,720
Now, I will say I've never seen 
a line up like that in my life. 

477
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,560
I mean, trotting out that 
murder's row of, of, of killers,

478
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,600
I don't know how the hell any 
pitcher, I mean, Skeens did it. 

479
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,560
How any pitcher navigates that 
and and just doesn't give up 

480
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,960
bomb after bomb. 
I mean, it tells you how how 

481
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,120
special Skeens is really. 
And they set the WBC record for 

482
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,280
home runs. 
I get it. 

483
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,080
It's I love watching them play. 
They're phenomenal that for Juan

484
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Soto that that's just I don't I 
don't want to hear it like it's 

485
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,320
not. 
Again, I'm not equating the two 

486
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,040
here. 
But if Aaron and I have to go 

487
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,600
back and really look at what 
Aaron Judge said, like if Aaron 

488
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,400
Judge said put that up there 
again, please. 

489
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,400
Can you do that, Jay? 
So no, no, not the judge. 

490
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,040
I'm sorry. 
My bad. 

491
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,760
Yeah. 
Thank you on point. 

492
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,840
Look at the hitting those 
buttons fast. 

493
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:39,760
So imagine after now the 
Dominican Republic wasn't 

494
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,720
dropping pop ups like the 
Yankees did in the World Series 

495
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,440
or failing to cover first base 
with Garrett Cole, blah blah 

496
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,920
blah. 
But imagine after the World 

497
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,120
Series, Aaron Judge is at his 
locker and they lost. 

498
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,440
They lost. 
So the Dodgers were crowned 

499
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,440
champions as they were, and 
Aaron Judge said we showed the 

500
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480
world who's the best team in 
baseball. 

501
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,280
That's all I got to say. 
And quote, I'm I'm not saying 

502
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,840
it's apples to apples because 
there really were no calls in 

503
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,040
that Yankees Dodgers series 
where as a Yankee fan, I look 

504
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,640
back and and lament and say 
Yankees got hosed. 

505
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,880
Yankees lost to a better team. 
Dodgers were better. 

506
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,800
Now you can make the case and I 
was old. 

507
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,200
I love boom. 
But I crushed them the next day 

508
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,880
that no go to Cortez was was was
ridiculous in that spot. 

509
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,240
You know, giving up that moon 
shot granny to Freeman. 

510
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760
What are we doing? 
But the Yankees were not better 

511
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,680
than the Dodgers, and the 
Dodgers won. 

512
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,000
Now you do I think that top to 
bottom that the Dominican team 

513
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,600
is better than the United States
team? 

514
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,280
I mean, you could very easily 
make that case. 

515
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,600
But it it just seems petty when 
you actually say that when you 

516
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,560
lost. 
I think there's a better way to 

517
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,000
say it. 
And I also read that the 

518
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480
Dominican team walked out 
without doing any interviews. 

519
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,440
Come on, you know, I don't know.
I it's maybe it's different 

520
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,320
because if there's not like 
you're not playing for the 

521
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,560
Dodgers and the LA Times isn't 
waiting at your locker or the 

522
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Yankees and the New York Post 
and those guys, right? 

523
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Or, you know, the Detroit Free 
Press or whatever it might be, 

524
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760
you know, school bull pitches a 
playoff game for the Tigers and 

525
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,760
you got the Free Press waiting 
for you. 

526
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720
I know that's why I say it's not
apples to apples, but there's 

527
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680
still probably a bit of a 
responsibility to express 

528
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,920
yourself to the media. 
I mean, I'm, I'm of the, you 

529
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,680
know, what happened, You know, 
even if you complain about the 

530
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840
calls, that's fine. 
You definitely had the right to 

531
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480
do that because there were some 
shitty calls that went against 

532
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,680
the DRI. 
Don't blame him, you pissed. 

533
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,120
But again I I don't I don't. 
I didn't see this myself. 

534
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,960
All I did, I read this part was 
that to a man, the Dominican 

535
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840
team walked out and did not 
communicate with the media. 

536
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,440
And to me, that's a little 
small. 

537
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
You know, if you want to feel 
the adulation when you're 

538
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,600
smacking 15 bombs or I think 
even 16, they finished with and 

539
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,560
establish a new WBC record for, 
you know, home run prowess. 

540
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000
Don't you think you got to kind 
of stick around then take it on 

541
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,440
the other end that things don't 
go your way? 

542
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,000
Just thought it was a little bit
petty. 

543
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,680
It didn't really like that. 
And you know, I'm not even 

544
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960
looking at crush Soto. 
If anybody said that, if an 

545
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,960
American said that, and let's 
say, you know, Team USA lost 54 

546
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320
and they're out there saying, 
you know, we proved to the world

547
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,040
we're the best team. 
Well, no, you didn't. 

548
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,120
You lost. 
Now, what I'm sure Soto's 

549
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,280
talking about is the, the 
overwhelming amount of run 

550
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,720
production. 
I mean, it was clear like their 

551
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,440
offense was second to none. 
I we, everybody knows that. 

552
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,240
But just, you know, not not the 
best look there, not the best 

553
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,040
look there. 
J Rod, you think that I'm I'm 

554
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,360
not. 
I don't think I'm being unfair. 

555
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:29,760
Do you think it's a big? 
No, I mean it's. 

556
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,320
I actually have more of an issue
with what Soto said than what 

557
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,800
what what Judge said. 
Yeah, of course you, yeah, yeah.

558
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,680
Because how can you lose? 
How can you say how can you lose

559
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,040
and then say you're the best 
team? 

560
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,440
I mean, that just doesn't 
compute in any sort of, I don't 

561
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,520
know, kind of thing like. 
To me it just. 

562
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,800
Some sore losers. 
Like it's a petty, you know, if 

563
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,960
you get a flex and you get a 
dance and you get a just, you 

564
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,280
know, do your thing and trust 
me, their thing is is impressive

565
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,400
as hell. 
Well, there's another part of 

566
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,600
being a pro or, you know, 
comporting yourself the right 

567
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720
way. 
And that's a responsibility, 

568
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240
even if it's just to the 
Dominican Republic, you know, to

569
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,440
do your own people about what 
happened, you know, bad coal or 

570
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,000
hey, tip the cap and listen, I'm
sure you know, when they see 

571
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,720
each other batting practice, the
season starts like they bump it.

572
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000
Hey, that was a hell of a game. 
And I'm sure some of the 

573
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,680
American players because I even 
see or I even saw that that 

574
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Armstrong said, yeah, I could 
see that was a couple of inches 

575
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,920
off. 
And we got away with caught. 

576
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840
And I think even said I'm happy 
there was there's no ABS to go 

577
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,920
and challenge that because it 
probably would have been a would

578
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,560
have been a ball. 
Like, again, it's not the 

579
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,560
biggest deal in the world, but I
don't know what is it. 

580
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,400
Is it is it emblematic? 
All right, maybe this is a 

581
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,120
bigger issue down the road 
because let's face it, as great 

582
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,920
as he is and a lot of this, 
actually all of it really 

583
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,880
predated Juan Soto's arrival 
with the Mets. 

584
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,080
There was a lot of whispers. 
Then it got louder and louder 

585
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,640
and louder that, you know, the 
leadership and the chemistry was

586
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840
not not great with the Mets. 
And that's why Stearns decided 

587
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,640
to blow it up and, you know, not
give Pete five years and get rid

588
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520
of Nimmo and change things. 
Or I think Diaz was different. 

589
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,920
As I said, that was just a 
miscalculation on the Mets part.

590
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,320
I think they wanted them. 
I don't think they wanted Nimmo 

591
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,120
because they traded them and I 
don't think they want to Pete 

592
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,480
for those terms. 
And I agree with that. 

593
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,240
They knew they had to change 
things up. 

594
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,160
But you know, I'm, I'm just 
trying to think like, how's 

595
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,040
that, that that's going to kind 
of get hidden a little bit 

596
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,040
because it's the WBC and the 
Mets fans, even the great 

597
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Dominican Mets fans, and there's
a ton of them. 

598
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440
Like I don't think the Dominican
Mets fans, they're not going to 

599
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,520
use that against Soto as like 
from a Mets point of view. 

600
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,760
But like, if Juan Soto and the 
Mets say they lose to the 

601
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,200
Phillies or they lose to the 
Braves or they lose the World 

602
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,520
Series to whomever, and Juan 
Soto drops that quote, you know,

603
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040
a very, it's not going to be a 
pleasant reaction. 

604
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880
You know you lose. 
I mean, and you say that because

605
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,720
you didn't prove anything. 
We know how great you are. 

606
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,440
We know how great your lineup 
is. 

607
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,080
We also know you lost. 
So take it on the chin, absorb 

608
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240
the L and keep it moving. 
There we go. 

609
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,960
You know what I'm saying? 
You just got it. 

610
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,000
Come on. 
As I said before, you just got a

611
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Derek Jeter it tip the cap, hit 
him with a little respect, a 

612
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,960
little RE2I. 
Love that guy at opening day 

613
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,040
breaks here. 
Is that the game? 

614
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,080
Not sure if they showed it on 
TV, but they show the average 

615
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800
fastball speed of pitchers 
versus Dr. compared to Skeens. 

616
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,040
Skeens was was throwing 98 and 
they faced a lot of guys 

617
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,480
throwing under 90. 
Yeah. 

618
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,160
I mean, yeah, they have it up on
the TV screen. 

619
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,000
I got you. 
I mean, well, I can tell you who

620
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,800
wasn't throwing 90. 
That was the guy who started the

621
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,600
game. 
That was Severino, who was 

622
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,320
hitting 99. 
He was touching 99. 

623
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,960
And they even made the 
observation. 

624
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240
They're like because they gave 
you the numbers like what his 

625
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,640
average four team fastball was 
during the like last year and it

626
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:42,240
was 3 mph faster during the WBC.
So you know, I mean, I I don't I

627
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,080
don't know if that's accurate. 
I mean, I know he wasn't 

628
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120
throwing 90. 
Some of the other guys sure, you

629
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,080
know, and I think there's an 
advantage with the pitching. 

630
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,400
I think I think the Dominican 
lineup is second to none. 

631
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,120
I don't I don't know that 
they've got the best pitching 

632
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,800
staff. 
Yeah, Bednar definitely 

633
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,680
impressed there. 
He's listen, Bednar is a guy who

634
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,640
you look at him and you're like,
God, you do you fully trust this

635
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,680
guy And I do, you know, he's 
proven that he can acclimate 

636
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440
himself to New York and he's one
of these dudes. 

637
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640
He's got to get used to it. 
He's going to be a tightrope 

638
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,560
kind of a guy. 
Like he's not going to come out 

639
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,600
and mow you down here. 
Strike one, strike two, I'm 

640
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,880
eating. 
You're not touching it. 

641
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,000
It's over. 
It is going to dance. 

642
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,640
And even though he throws hard, 
he's going to walk a guy, he's 

643
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,680
going to give up a bloop. 
He's going to come back, strike 

644
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800
somebody out. 
He's going to, he's got, but I 

645
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,240
but I like his bulldog presence.
Bednor to me was a guy who 

646
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,720
assimilated very well to New 
York. 

647
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,080
And you could tell, even though 
Devin Williams did respond 

648
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680
nicely after an awful April. 
And I think he'll be fine for 

649
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,320
the Mets. 
Not as good as Diaz, but he'll 

650
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,400
be fine for the Mets. 
You know, there's just certain 

651
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:47,960
guys going back to like Whitson 
and even Carl Pavano, just some 

652
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,480
some a couple of Japanese 
pitchers certainly that didn't 

653
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,200
that you could tell right away 
they were a little bit 

654
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,920
overwhelmed by that New York 
stage. 

655
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Now you don't get that from bed 
nor. 

656
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,000
So if he's out there tonight 
with A1 run lead, do I think 

657
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,360
it's a twelve pitch, you know, 
strike three, strike three, 

658
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,000
little broken bat and number 
back. 

659
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,360
No, I think it's probably going 
to be a little dicey, but but 

660
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680
that's that's who he is and 
that's generally how he gets the

661
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,000
gets the job done. 
All right, This guy gets the job

662
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,720
done. 
This guy. 

663
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
There are, as I, and I take 
great pleasure in saying this 

664
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,680
because I've been doing this for
a long time. 

665
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,040
There are certain people that 
you watch. 

666
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720
There are certain people that 
you see and they speak and they 

667
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,560
cover what they cover with such 
great joy and such great depth 

668
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400
and, and precision. 
And it's a very unique 

669
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,360
combination. 
And then when you really meet 

670
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,240
them to get to know him a little
bit, you sense how humble they 

671
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
are and what they appreciate and
how they appreciate what was 

672
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360
before them. 
And I'm talking about my guest 

673
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560
here, the great John Fanther, 
who was on our lease. 

674
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,960
We welcome big Johnny Boy in and
he is that awesome combination 

675
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,800
of love for the game and he's a 
humble young man and he's earned

676
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,480
everything he's gotten and some 
people saying he's the next 

677
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Dickie V. 
I'm saying he's the he's the 

678
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,720
first John Fanta John, welcome 
to unleash brother. 

679
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,800
How you doing, man? 
What's cooking? 

680
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Brandon, it is great to be with 
you. 

681
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Happy madness to you and and 
everybody that's watching, 

682
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,200
listening out there and best of 
luck as you fill out that 

683
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,040
bracket. 
I don't I don't know about you. 

684
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,520
I I'm assuming you're of this 
faint to you. 

685
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Do you just fill out one? 
I do. 

686
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,000
I think this goes bad. 
Remember. 

687
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Do you remember the mic and the 
mics that Mike and Mike and Mike

688
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,120
on ESPN, the sheets of 
integrity? 

689
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,040
Do you remember that? 
Yeah. 

690
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Where I think Goldwick would 
always try to do more than one. 

691
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840
I'd like to do 1 because if I 
start doing more than one, I 

692
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,800
start contradicting everything 
that I think I know. 

693
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,520
John. 
Correct, correct. 

694
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,320
You just got to do 1 sheet, but 
that means a lot from you and 

695
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,160
and you're doing a fantastic job
over this show. 

696
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,240
I I enjoy listening. 
People don't know I'm a like I'm

697
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,240
a huge baseball guy. 
So I'm I'm excited for the 

698
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,520
season and this this has been 
pumped for tonight. 

699
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,720
But and and can't wait to hear 
you you know this week. 

700
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,480
I think you would you can attest
to this. 

701
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,440
You know better than anybody in 
the moment is that there's 

702
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,280
really nothing like, you know, 
the, the Big East tournament is 

703
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,400
special. 
The roar of the crowd, the the 

704
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,480
feeling that you also get when 
you sit down, when you sit down 

705
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,640
in San Diego and the NCAA, 
they've got a signature theme. 

706
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,720
They have a signature song that 
they play right before it's been

707
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,120
around for a long. 
Time. 

708
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,800
Right before the tournament game
and they show images of people 

709
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720
winning tournament games and 
championships. 

710
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,360
And when you sit down, you put 
that headset on to call the 

711
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,840
game. 
Just think like anytime you sit 

712
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,600
down and you're like, OK, here 
we go. 

713
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Knowing that the next two hours 
determines whether you stay 

714
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,840
alive or whether you're flying 
home. 

715
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,200
It's it's really wild. 
It's the best, John. 

716
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,280
Yeah, You know, it's wild, too. 
You know, obviously I'm older 

717
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,840
than you. 
You just bursting on the scene. 

718
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Seton Hall grad. 
By the way, shout out to the 

719
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680
pirates there. 
A lot of respect for Shaheen 

720
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,400
Holloway, what they're doing. 
I got a couple of questions 

721
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,320
about them after, but the first 
year that I ever did St. 

722
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,440
John's was 2003, 2004. 
My first year was when Mike 

723
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,400
Jarvis got fired during the 
season, which really never 

724
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,520
happened in the Big East. 
Coaches never got fired during 

725
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,960
the season ever. 
Right. 

726
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,440
So I remember we went to Duke 
and and Mike was still coaching 

727
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,239
and I think he got fired maybe a
week or so. 

728
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,440
But they got destroyed. 
And that first year they went 6 

729
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,840
and 21. 
And that was my first year. 

730
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Now, you know, I was, I was 
watching Mullen in that Final 

731
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,639
four team. 
So I don't take it for granted. 

732
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,679
Like all I wanted was to call an
NCAA tournament game, but I 

733
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,280
finally got that. 
What was that? 

734
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,880
In 2015? 
I guess it would have been 

735
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,880
against San Diego State down in 
Charlotte and they lost. 

736
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,679
So it's, it's been a great ride.
It's, it's been a lot of fun. 

737
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,719
And you know, I, I, I don't 
understand. 

738
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,080
I need you here. 
And I'm not going to whine about

739
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,440
it because, hey, integrity and 
toughness and defense, get on 

740
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,280
the plane, go to go to San Diego
and shut up everybody who said 

741
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,880
that you got hosed with a bad 
seed. 

742
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,719
But why are they going out to 
San Diego? 

743
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Why is it happening, John? 
What happened here, John? 

744
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,320
Well, it's interesting. 
There's a couple of things to 

745
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,880
unpack. 
And, and so #1 is when you 

746
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,240
looked at the at the bracket and
you looked at the the potential 

747
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:14,160
of movement, there wasn't a lot 
of great chances for Saint 

748
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,120
John's to move up in the 
bracket, despite the fact that 

749
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,520
they were winning and that 
they've won 19 of 20. 

750
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,200
We'll we'll get to that in a 
second. 

751
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,960
But like when I looked at last 
week, when the week began, I'm 

752
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,440
like, all right, Kansas is 
probably on the four line. 

753
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,920
So is Nebraska. 
The committee's not going to 

754
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,560
move Nebraska at this point, 
regardless of what happens. 

755
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Just based on their body of work
and the start of the season, 

756
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,320
They got off to Arkansas. 
Arkansas could move, they could 

757
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,200
move up, they could move down. 
Of course, John Calipari had, 

758
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,800
you know, indirectly wasn't 
trying to, but indirectly it 

759
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,520
impacts Rick Pitino in Saint 
John's that Arkansas wins the 

760
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,000
SEC tournament and that they are
the four seat. 

761
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,160
For a second I thought we'd get 
an Arkansas St. 

762
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,520
John's in the second round and 
then Alabama and Alabama. 

763
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,800
To me, that's probably the one 
that that I would say Saint 

764
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,320
John's had a had an opportunity 
to get over Alabama. 

765
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Why? 
OK, Alabama is below St. 

766
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
John's in the metric that the, 
that the selection committee 

767
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,200
said mattered more. 
Now the WAB, the WAB, and if you

768
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,080
go folks, the WAB is wins above 
bubble mean, meaning your total 

769
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,440
wins above what the average 
bubble is. 

770
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,920
St. 
John's is ahead of Alabama in 

771
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,280
that, oh, wait a minute, St. 
John's is ahead of Kansas in 

772
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,720
that metric. 
So committee, this team's won 19

773
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,360
of 20. 
They're ahead of those teams. 

774
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,600
I'm not giving opinion here. 
We're stating facts. 

775
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,440
I agree. 
And and you did not put them in 

776
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,080
or above them on the four line. 
OK, well, let's let's keep 

777
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,240
looking. 
OK, Kempom, St. 

778
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,600
John's is ahead of both Alabama 
and Kansas. 

779
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,440
They're even ahead of Texas 
Tech. 

780
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,000
So I think that when when you 
look at the different items, 

781
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,200
there are legitimate numbers, 
Brandon, that say St. 

782
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,960
John's is ahead of these teams 
in them. 

783
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120
But committee, you didn't put 
them there because why? 

784
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,600
Because you were watching 
marquee games in November and 

785
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,360
December. 
And I'm not blaming you for it, 

786
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,560
but you, you then, I think 
sometimes let certain narratives

787
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,480
carry how you think about a 
team. 

788
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,640
And the fact is this St. 
John's team would beat Auburn. 

789
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,280
They would beat Kentucky right 
now. 

790
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,520
They didn't, though. 
I credit them for scheduling. 

791
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,000
If they hadn't scheduled, 
they're probably a six. 

792
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,000
Oh yeah. 
Oh, absolutely, 100%. 

793
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,040
But this is This is why you 
schedule. 

794
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,960
I just think there should be 
more reward. 

795
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,640
We often say there's no harm 
when you lose to a big dog in 

796
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,920
November and December. 
And I feel like the committee 

797
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,320
did harm them with where they 
put them. 

798
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,480
That's interesting. 
Now we both know the Big East 

799
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,680
was better. 
You would have had more 

800
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,000
opportunities to get more quad 
ones, blah, blah, blah. 

801
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,720
We don't need to, you know, bore
everybody with that. 

802
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,680
We know that the Big East is 
down. 

803
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,880
There's been some people, John, 
I can't prove this, but 

804
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440
obviously there's history. 
You think it's personal with 

805
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,560
Rick where they're like, you 
know what, we're going to ship 

806
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,440
them out even though they got 
the two seat last year. 

807
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000
So it wasn't personal there. 
We're going to ship them out to 

808
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,080
San Diego. 
So no Saint John's fans could 

809
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,440
go. 
We're going to give him a tough 

810
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,520
matchup with Kansas and Duke and
and you know, like and U Conn, 

811
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,360
like that's a brutal region. 
You think they've got a personal

812
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,720
agenda against Rick? 
Look, I'm sure that some people 

813
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,480
do. 
We, we know for a fact that some

814
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960
people probably do. 
I mean that that that's just, 

815
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,680
that's not. 
Well, then they shouldn't be in 

816
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,680
the committee room, John, and 
that's horrible. 

817
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480
Yeah, and the words of Ed 
Cooley, Stevie Wonder could see 

818
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,960
that, you know, like, like 
there's there's got to be some 

819
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,320
some people who who just are not
for Rick Pitino. 

820
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,200
But it shouldn't impact like 
this impacts players. 

821
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,560
This impacts of school. 
I I thought, I thought it was a 

822
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:53,160
really difficult straw, but if 
there's anybody who can get his 

823
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,640
dudes playing hard and showing 
people why they're wrong, it's 

824
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Ricky P. 
I'm with you. 

825
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,080
He's he's got this group saying 
they don't think anything of 

826
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,680
you. 
They think you're going to lose.

827
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,720
They gave this to Kansas so that
Kansas has the advantage. 

828
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,920
And Brandon, I will say this, 
OK, San Diego may stink, but you

829
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,960
know what would not stink? 
Being in Washington DC in the 

830
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,120
second weekend and having St. 
John's fans had the opportunity 

831
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,200
to travel down and let and let 
me tell you, I'm going to tell 

832
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,960
you a very, very quick story 
here. 

833
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,720
I went to Chicago for 
Providence, Kansas in the Sweet 

834
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:32,280
16. 
This is now 4 years ago, 

835
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Brandon, I got into Chicago. 
I thought Kansas fans would have

836
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,360
70% of the building. 
Providence fans made-up at least

837
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,840
50%. 
And there were Kansas fans 

838
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,800
training me saying we don't 
battle with fan bases like this.

839
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,280
In other words, if it's Duke and
St. 

840
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,000
John's, I think I think a lot of
people are going to be like 

841
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,280
Duke. 
They'll have the advantage. 

842
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,320
But St. 
John's fans have the hunger 

843
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,760
factor. 
They're they're going to fill up

844
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Capital One. 
You know, and, and, and could 

845
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,360
have, could have them. 
New York City will be in 

846
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Washington, DC, and I think 
that's where Saint John's will 

847
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,640
be because I got them beating 
Kansas in the second round of 

848
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,840
Boy Northern Iowa. 
Attaboy Fanta, I know you do 

849
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
because and now you can branch 
this out with without going like

850
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,120
nuts with every game. 
Just more of a I'm curious how 

851
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,720
you do this because I was 
watching some video and you 

852
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,200
filled out the entire bracket in
13 minutes. 

853
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,080
All right. 
And you know, listen, you know 

854
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,480
this stuff like the back of your
hand, but there's certain 

855
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,400
schools like, you know, you 
probably have to do a little 

856
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,680
research, but in 13 minutes, 
you, you don't. 

857
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,120
So as you as you're clicking and
pecking away and advancing teams

858
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,320
and bouncing teams, is it just 
the first thing you think of? 

859
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,240
Like is it all gut? 
Is, is, is it all knowledge? 

860
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,840
Is it part gut? 
13 minutes is kind of quick for,

861
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,920
for, you know, I do this, but I 
also do general sports talk. 

862
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,800
You are known as one of the 
college basketball guys. 

863
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,520
So you want to get this right. 
13 minutes is quick bro. 

864
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,720
More about delivery, like I 
like, I like to break things 

865
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,640
down a little bit more in depth.
You just have to go. 

866
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,080
And you know, what I didn't 
realize is that was off the 

867
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,520
cuff. 
I, I said to one of our 

868
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,040
producers, I said, why don't we 
try this? 

869
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,960
I saw someone do this in like 
10:00-ish minutes and it did 

870
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,320
really, really well. 
And you know, you don't always, 

871
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960
you know, like we speak our 
minds, we say what we think. 

872
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,240
But like for that, like, I 
wasn't able to speak my mind a 

873
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:18,720
whole lot. 
We just filled out a bracket. 

874
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,320
And it just goes to show you why
this tournament is the best. 

875
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,280
People don't know everything 
about Santa Clara. 

876
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,840
They don't know everything about
South Florida. 

877
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,880
They don't know everything about
high point They and you know 

878
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,840
they they certainly don't know 
everything about Northern Iowa. 

879
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,960
But what they do know is that 
those types of schools have come

880
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,640
up big and that there that there
is to the people out there who 

881
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,920
say an upset will never happen 
again or those days are over. 

882
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Is it harder? 
Yes, yes, it is the the 

883
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,600
difference in between the top 
and the mid major is large and 

884
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,520
money has a lot to do with that.
But BT it's basketball, you 

885
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,320
know, it's similar like 
football. 

886
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,040
College football can't have 
this. 

887
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,840
The games in the trenches, 
they're decided an offensive 

888
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,320
lineman is £100 bigger than a 
defensive lineman for a or even.

889
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,960
A Tulane, I know what you're 
saying. 

890
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,200
In basketball, it's make or 
miss. 

891
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,880
So how did I do it? 
You you look at consistencies of

892
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960
some teams, Kentucky's been 
inconsistent all year. 

893
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,920
Santa Clara knows we're going to
slow down or take away. 

894
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,560
We're going to make other people
beat us. 

895
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,760
And Kentucky's a little bit soft
down low. 

896
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,000
So guess what? 
Santa Clara's got a garden 

897
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,960
Christian Ham News playing at a 
very high level. 

898
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,280
Elijah Mahi is a senior who does
a lot of different things for 

899
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,240
them. 
And I said, I think the Broncos 

900
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,720
can do it with Coach Sendak. 
I think he's an excellent coach.

901
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,800
USF Louisville's had a roller 
coaster ride. 

902
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Mikel Brown, I don't know what 
they're going to get from them. 

903
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,720
I don't know. 
And that's the other side. 

904
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,960
You know why upsets will happen?
Because some of these teams got 

905
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,240
some players who either one, 
even on good teams, are 

906
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,360
auditioning for other teams. 
For next year. 

907
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Or Saint John's fans know a 
thing or two about about about 

908
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,480
last year at the end, OK, there,
there were some issues there. 

909
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,600
We all have them with RJ Lewis 
or they got locker room issues. 

910
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,520
We can't forecast that. 
I don't know what's going on in 

911
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,560
all those. 
Louisville's had a roller 

912
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,120
coaster ride of a season. 
You know who's not having a 

913
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,280
roller coaster ride? 
The South Florida Bulls. 

914
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,400
They score, they run, they're 
going to beat Louisville. 

915
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,960
OK, First, that's a good 
prediction right there. 

916
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Where are you going? 
Are you traveling? 

917
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,320
What are you? 
Going to be doing I'm going to 

918
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,760
watch, you know, I've done it 
all different ways I've flown to

919
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,960
I've flown to the site. 
It's been fun to do it. 

920
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,640
I love doing it brand. 
What I do find is when you just,

921
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,000
when you're, when you're 
observing the sport nationally 

922
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,840
and you go to one site, you 
can't, it's very, you can't 

923
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,480
accurately talk about other 
teams that are playing. 

924
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,840
If you do, you're looking at a 
box score. 

925
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,160
I agree with that, yeah. 
I'm just being real. 

926
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,040
So what I will do is what I've 
in, in my world, you know, NBC 

927
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,600
does not have the rights to the 
tournament. 

928
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,760
Obviously it's CBS and Turner. 
So I'm going to watch from afar,

929
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920
get some family time to the to 
the to. 

930
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,720
It's funny because like a lot of
the CBS Turner guys, Turner had 

931
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,440
more Big East games this year, 
but but set a couple of them. 

932
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,040
They don't have the regular 
season weeknights that some of 

933
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,560
some of like the ESPN, FS1, NBC 
Peacock people do. 

934
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,360
So for us, the term is actually 
a chance to like the first week 

935
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,640
is a chance to catch our breath 
because we just got done with 

936
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,880
the championship. 
And I don't I, I never really 

937
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,720
want to, but I will watch from 
afar and check things out and 

938
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,280
then next week TBD. 
And then I I always go to 

939
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Indianapolis Zombie at the Final
Four. 

940
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,240
This is one of the things that 
that that I love about you. 

941
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,680
So and I have a question how you
do it? 

942
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,480
I think it's very interesting. 
So those of you who watch John 

943
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:47,360
follow John and and and many of 
you do the the way you wrap it's

944
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,720
it's pretty cool. 
Like you see a blank court and 

945
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,920
then oversee you see, you see 
John Mosey on into the court and

946
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,680
you don't just give about a 30 
minute take on what went down. 

947
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,400
You do about a three minute 
essay and, and I'm curious cause

948
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,880
I've got my method like I'm 
somebody just give me one or two

949
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,160
words, I'll write them down. 
That transforms the thought, 

950
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,720
which becomes a paragraph, which
becomes a segment. 

951
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,320
How do you do that? 
I think it's a lot harder than 

952
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,240
people think you. 
You very rarely stumble and it's

953
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,440
very cohesive and it's very 
organized. 

954
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,360
How do you do that? 
That's pretty good, dude. 

955
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,760
God-given talent. 
I truly believe in my faith and 

956
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,560
it is a God-given talent. 
And you've got to prepare, 

957
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,640
you've got to watch. 
And I think there's a humility 

958
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,640
aspect, Brandon. 
Like, look, somebody once told 

959
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,880
me, you know, you can't. 
There's one eye and eagle. 

960
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,480
All right, There's one eye and 
eagle. 

961
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,600
He has a he is, he does a 
fantastic job. 

962
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,360
He is a he is a legend. 
One of my really good friends is

963
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,600
no eagle. 
You know who's who's at NBC? 

964
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,960
There's one no eagle. 
And Noah's outstanding at his 

965
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,200
craft. 
There's one Mike Tirico. 

966
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,080
There was one Marv Albert. 
You know, there's you. 

967
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,200
You have to be comfortable in 
your own skin. 

968
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,760
And so for me, in that moment, 
it's it starts from, I could 

969
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
think of the age of 5 or 6. 
And you struck A chord with me 

970
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,480
because I can. 
I can remember sitting, you 

971
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,200
know, at Saint Patrick's Day 
parties in Cleveland. 

972
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,040
It's a huge deal in Cleveland. 
Oh, yeah, pound shuts down. 

973
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,040
There's a rich Irish Catholic. 
And I can remember sitting at 

974
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,200
family parties while everybody's
drinking Guinness and I'm like 6

975
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,440
or 7 and the tournament and the 
tournament's on. 

976
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:34,400
I remember Saint Patrick's Day. 
I don't know, 07 or so or Mike 

977
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Conley and Ron Lewis. 
Lewis has been awesome. 

978
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,880
Let's it go. 
Hates it home, our buddy Gus. 

979
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,760
And it was it was Ohio State. 
Xavier, do you remember that 

980
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,640
tournament game in Lexington? 
Ohio State was terrific for all 

981
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,080
the for many years at that 
point, yeah. 

982
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,400
Which shout out to that model. 
We wish him the best in 

983
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,240
retirement. 
You know, it's it's he's had a 

984
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,200
great career. 
And you know, for Butler, it's 

985
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,760
good for but like I can, I can 
remember growing up and and and 

986
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,240
watching digesting when you say 
you appreciate the history, like

987
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,640
that's my childhood. 
So you harken back to that now 

988
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,840
at your age, like how do I 
deliver it? 

989
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,440
I, I take a step back and I say,
don't just analyze the game, 

990
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,280
provide perspective of what it 
means. 

991
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,840
And so the other night, what I 
thought of was it impressed me 

992
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,560
to this day that when we were 
walking into Rick Pitino's 

993
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,960
opening press conference that a 
guy that had accomplished the 

994
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,200
the degree that Luke hard a 
second accomplished was by 

995
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,680
himself in the front row. 
The first person that was in the

996
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,200
room for that guy to get 
introduced fully knowing that 

997
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,040
the marks that he had 
accomplished we're about to be 

998
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,040
matched with what Rick would 
accomplish and he he you know 

999
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,880
that says you love the place Lou
loves Saint John's. 

1000
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,480
So I want to make sure that 
people knew like this is this 

1001
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,960
was written in the stars and now
it's reality. 

1002
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,000
There you go, there you go. 
And I heard you talk about that,

1003
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,040
where what you just said about 
when you walked in, you did see 

1004
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,160
Lou and you incorporated that to
the is it an essay? 

1005
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Do we call it? 
Is that? 

1006
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,720
Is that a? 
Is that an? 

1007
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,760
Essay. 
Yeah, it's an essay and there's 

1008
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,640
no prompter. 
I don't use a teleprompter. 

1009
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,280
I rarely use it when I'm in. 
I helped out NBC with some 

1010
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,520
college football over the fall. 
I rarely use it when I'm in the 

1011
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,280
studio. 
You know, I'll use a shot sheet 

1012
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,800
just to be able to follow 
different shots. 

1013
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,440
But that is the growing up in 
Cleveland, you'll appreciate 

1014
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,160
this. 
Look, I've got it right here. 

1015
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,080
The voice of the Cavaliers is a 
guy by the name of Joe Tate who 

1016
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,320
would say Wham with the right 
hand with LeBron James. 

1017
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,240
Tom Hamilton's the voice of the 
Guardians. 

1018
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:40,720
You as a Yankee fan know a 
little bit like Hammy is a if 

1019
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,400
you're ever folks, if you're 
ever driving a car, just listen 

1020
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,320
to a Guardians game, a Tribe 
game. 

1021
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,280
Always be the, you know, the, 
the, the, the tribe. 

1022
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,560
You need listen to a game on the
radio on Sirius and and you'll 

1023
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,240
hear Tom Hamilton and then Jim 
Donovan, who we lost a few years

1024
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,160
back. 
Jimmy is the voice of the 

1025
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,240
Browns. 
Those guys, they didn't use 

1026
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:00,440
prompters, they didn't use 
scripts. 

1027
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,560
They used passion. 
That's people want passion. 

1028
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,360
Yeah, yes, they do. 
I almost feel though, John. 

1029
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,840
And you graduated Seton Hall in 
what, 2017? 

1030
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,640
17, right? 
OK. 1717, yeah. 

1031
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,200
OK, so you've obviously been 
doing this for a little bit. 

1032
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,040
You're you're not just starting,
you're you're definitely, you 

1033
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,000
know, you're more on the younger
side for sure. 

1034
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,760
And that's a great thing because
you need the tarmac. 

1035
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,560
There's there's a lot of miles 
for you to cover. 

1036
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,160
Man, I'm really excited to see 
where you go. 

1037
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,360
Any pressure though to you know,
you know, whatever you say, 

1038
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,400
whatever call a great 
punctuation or a stumble, it's 

1039
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,200
going to be all over social 
media. 

1040
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,720
And those guys he just mentioned
and not to mention the Marv's 

1041
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,160
and the other ones, even even 
Ian when he was coming up, they 

1042
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,640
didn't have to worry about that 
like it was they weren't going 

1043
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,800
to get mocked. 
Even though a lot of people 

1044
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,600
really do like you and try to 
elevate you. 

1045
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,720
If you had a really bad moment, 
you know the people are going to

1046
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,120
clown you. 
Is is that part of you Ever 

1047
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,680
think about that? 
Well, you do because it's, it's,

1048
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,960
it's reality. 
You'd be lying if you said that 

1049
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,040
you didn't. 
But you got to listen to your 

1050
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520
bosses and you got and you got 
to listen. 

1051
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,080
And you got to listen to your 
audience too. 

1052
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,400
You know, I often talk to my 
friends and family. 

1053
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,480
I'm like, how'd that come off? 
What do you think? 

1054
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,320
What do you think? 
And you know, Brandon, they'll 

1055
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,080
be honest with you. 
You're real friends. 

1056
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,760
You're real friends of people 
close to you. 

1057
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,960
They'll be honest with you on 
things we live in. 

1058
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,840
I've been very fortunate to have
some people who have who have 

1059
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,440
given me real time feedback that
that hired me. 

1060
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,480
You know, it helps when you're 
younger and you're just getting 

1061
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,600
your start and you got to be 
receptive to it. 

1062
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,320
You know, I, I still am to this 
day. 

1063
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:41,160
And, you know, recently called 
called an NBA game for the first

1064
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,080
time. 
And that was a privilege and 

1065
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,520
something I was very humbled to 
do. 

1066
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,360
And I have no problem saying 
it's you on on your show before 

1067
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,280
the game. 
There's some coaching happening.

1068
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,800
Hey, you have not called an NBA 
regular season game. 

1069
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,360
You know, here. 
This is what we would like. 

1070
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,800
This is what we're looking for. 
Brandon, That's a very that's 

1071
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,880
OK. 
Like I want to get, I want to 

1072
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,920
get told I work for and I want 
to give NBC Sports credit 

1073
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200
because not every place is 
willing to tell their people 

1074
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,440
like this is what we're looking 
for. 

1075
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,280
If they don't say anything, what
is it? 

1076
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,760
They don't care. 
That means they don't care or 

1077
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,920
they're not they're and they do 
I, I love working for them 

1078
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,480
because they, they, they are 
awesome with the feedback and 

1079
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,280
the, the thought process and 
it's helped make me better. 

1080
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,880
It helps make me better. 
But in terms of the noise, 

1081
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,800
nobody's perfect, you know, and 
we you try your best, but you're

1082
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,880
never going to have like you 
keep doing shows you keep doing 

1083
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,440
different things because you can
always strive to raise raise the

1084
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,520
bar of what we're doing. 
That's kind of the fun of doing 

1085
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,960
this as a job is you never you 
really feel like you pitched the

1086
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,640
perfect game. 
You look at different ways that 

1087
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,720
you can continue to get better. 
So I've been in the couple weeks

1088
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:58,200
ago, you might have seen it, you
might not have. 

1089
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,360
I'm not going to, not going to 
get it, get into it. 

1090
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,080
Oh wait, wait, it's just the 
Saint John's thing where you 

1091
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,200
exploded on the guy. 
Is that the thing when you had? 

1092
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,280
That happen that no, I was 
actually going to bring 

1093
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,800
something else up so. 
Good, good, good. 

1094
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,480
We'll. 
Get that done. 

1095
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,000
That did happen a couple weeks 
ago. 

1096
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,200
I made an announcement, you 
know, on, on a, on a, a, a 

1097
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,520
partnership that I'm doing and 
I'm very proud to be and I'm 

1098
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,920
very proud to be doing that 
partnership. 

1099
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,160
OK. 
And you know, people instantly, 

1100
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,720
people that don't agree with it,
what what happens? 

1101
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,640
They go crazy. 
You know you've gotten the 

1102
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,600
negative tweets when you 
announce something or do 

1103
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,000
something and or you or you say 
something about a team and then 

1104
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,400
the 1st 60 replies are hater. 
You know you stink. 

1105
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Whatever it is, sometimes it's a
lot more vulgar. 

1106
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Than that I wish it was that 
basic. 

1107
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,800
It was that benign. 
It's not, it's not, but you 

1108
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,200
can't, you can't let that you, 
you got to, you got to just do 

1109
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,920
your you got to live your life 
and you got to understand like 

1110
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,440
what what you're doing is for 
your family. 

1111
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,760
It's it's also, you know, the 
better, the better yourself. 

1112
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,240
And so it's it's a long answer 
to your question because it's a 

1113
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,920
great question. 
I try to get better every single

1114
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,280
day. 
You have to have the humility 

1115
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,160
that says I'm not Bob Costas, 
I'm not Marv Albert, I'm not Al 

1116
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,240
Michaels. 
I just got to be, I just got to 

1117
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:10,720
get on. 
I just got to be on this this 

1118
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,320
fan to train and just keep the 
stops going. 

1119
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,120
That a boy. 
How do you How do you juggle 

1120
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,520
fatherhood? 
With an unbelievable wife. 

1121
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,280
First time. 
So my wife Vicki is, I mean, 

1122
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,160
she's downstairs with the baby 
as we speak. 

1123
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,160
And you know, we're juggling it 
as best we can. 

1124
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,040
I try to shut down when I'm when
I'm not with him. 

1125
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,160
One of the things that I did and
my first career opportunities 

1126
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,960
with Fox and I love working for 
them. 

1127
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,480
They were great people, you know
from, from Steve Shearer, who 

1128
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,000
who you know, and Barty Shaw 
Reyes and and Jordy Wimmer and 

1129
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,240
Brad Sager and Jordan Bazon. 
That whole group was great to 

1130
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:59,960
work with. 
But but I, I was writing as well

1131
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960
for them. 
I enjoyed it, Brandon. 

1132
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,640
I couldn't keep doing it. 
I couldn't keep doing the on 

1133
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,040
air. 
And if I was writing right now, 

1134
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,800
there just wouldn't be enough 
hours in the day. 

1135
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,480
I respect writers the hell out 
of them. 

1136
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,440
I really do. 
They work tirelessly to deliver 

1137
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,080
engaging stories and getting 
anecdotes from coaches and 

1138
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,080
players on things. 
Saint John's has a terrific beat

1139
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,880
of people who do that, that's 
for sure. 

1140
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,400
But I couldn't keep. 
I couldn't juggle it all. 

1141
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,800
So I took a step back. 
NBC now Sam Flood and and Rick 

1142
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,000
Cordella and company, they were 
so good about like, OK, this we 

1143
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,160
want to bring in for this. 
And I didn't have to I didn't 

1144
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,240
have to continue the writing. 
So you know, when I get done 

1145
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,680
with a couple of these on air 
things, I'm going to spend some 

1146
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:45,480
some time with my kid because 
I've been gone for the last two 

1147
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,160
or three weeks from championship
week and went on. 

1148
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,480
So for us, as you know, 
sometimes there is a weekday 

1149
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,960
during the spring or summer time
when that's like our weekend 

1150
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,400
because there's so many sporting
events on the weekends that 

1151
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,480
we're consumed with. 
So you juggle it to your best of

1152
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,800
your abilities. 
But you have to have an 

1153
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,560
understanding wife. 
But I love my son. 

1154
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,040
He came to the Big East 
tournament. 

1155
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:09,200
My son's name is Andrew. 
And you know, he, he just is, 

1156
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,880
he's, he's the absolute best. 
And it changes perspective on 

1157
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,440
life there. 
There's nothing better than 

1158
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,960
being a dad. 
That's that's that's the truth. 

1159
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,320
How old is Andrew? 
Is he 2 or not even yet? 

1160
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,760
Andrew is Andrew is 10 months 
old. 

1161
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,120
Oh my God, man, I missed that 
age, bro. 

1162
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,080
You know what's crazy about that
age, too? 

1163
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,440
And it goes fast. 
My son's 11, my daughter's nine,

1164
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,440
Right? 
And I actually think that that's

1165
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,920
why I asked you how you juggle 
in fatherhood. 

1166
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,960
At this point. 
It's easy for you because 

1167
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,800
there's only so much a dad, even
the most proactive dad can do 

1168
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,480
when a baby's that little, you 
can get up in the middle of the 

1169
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,640
night and support your wife and 
change the diapers. 

1170
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,560
I don't, you know, I don't know 
if she breastfeeds it. 

1171
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,960
I don't need to know. 
But like, there's just certain 

1172
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,800
things we can't do, you know, 
where the real juggle comes And 

1173
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,600
I, I, and it gets tough is when 
they start playing games. 

1174
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,720
That's where you're like, all 
right, I want to be a practice 

1175
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:00,480
and I, I've had a schedule 
that's afforded to me. 

1176
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,240
I coach, you know, not every 
team they're on, but I coach a 

1177
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,200
lot of them. 
That's to me, that's the, that's

1178
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,200
the like you have to be a 
magician to hit that perfect 

1179
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,600
balance of being there sitting 
in the chair watching that first

1180
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,240
T-ball game or coaching on third
base or sitting in the stands 

1181
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,480
for that first bow shot. 
And also being as immersed as I 

1182
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,200
know you want to and will be as 
you continue to grow in this 

1183
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,480
business. 
That's going to be the tough 

1184
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,800
part, and not now. 
It's coming, though. 

1185
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,200
Oh, it's coming. 
And how you encounter that 

1186
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,560
challenge, you know, you rely on
the people closest to you. 

1187
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,960
And I'll ask those people for 
different forms of advice and 

1188
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,880
what would you do? 
You know, I mean, I'll give you 

1189
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,400
the very real story. 
When I got hired by NBC, they're

1190
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,000
like, hey, we want to bring in 
for college football. 

1191
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,160
You're going to be doing game 
breaks and Brandon, I, I had, I 

1192
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,560
had not done college football. 
I, I'm a college football fan. 

1193
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,880
You're, we're sports fans. 
We could dive into. 

1194
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
You're, you're you, you, I know 
you enough to say that if 

1195
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,440
someone called you and said, 
hey, we need you on the Olympics

1196
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,120
and you're going to be doing 
downhill skiing, the two of us 

1197
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,360
would say, all right, we'll 
figure it out. 

1198
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,320
It's the best of our. 
Ability to figure it out, man. 

1199
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,520
We'll. 
Figure it out. 

1200
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,000
But we'll we'll figure it out. 
Yeah, we'll find a way. 

1201
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,440
So, you know, I knew college. 
I knew enough about college 

1202
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,920
football, obviously. 
But like, my point is one of the

1203
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,080
first things I said back to them
is, hey, I can work every 

1204
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,240
Saturday. 
We booked my son's baptism for 

1205
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,280
this Saturday, though. 
And I feel bad. 

1206
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,920
I just side with you. 
And they're like, are you 

1207
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,760
kidding? 
They they said you're you're 

1208
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,160
being serious, right? 
I go, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1209
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,160
They go. 
Your son comes first. 

1210
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,320
That that's There you go. 
There you go. 

1211
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,080
Your family comes first. 
That's you hope you know you 

1212
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,240
have to pick, but as you know, 
you got to pick your spots. 

1213
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,120
You have to, you have to be as 
judicious as as possible and 

1214
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,280
pick your spots. 
There's holidays when you wish 

1215
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,720
you could be there. 
You know something and I'm not 

1216
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,680
talking about Christmas even I'm
talking about Mother's Day. 

1217
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,080
I'm talking about, you know, 
different things that come up. 

1218
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,320
So you bet that's the work life 
balance of our industry and 

1219
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,240
hopefully it comes with enough 
reward that your kids can come 

1220
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,320
to a big game or can see the 
garden here or there so. 

1221
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Exactly the things that we miss 
and I, I, I, thankfully I did 

1222
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,360
really, I, I don't miss 
anything, especially now because

1223
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,480
I'm sitting in my home doing 
this. 

1224
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,880
But even all the years, the 
national stuff with Tiki, the, 

1225
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,160
the WFAN, living in San 
Francisco, like everything I've 

1226
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,840
done, I've been very lucky 
where, you know, for some 

1227
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Amazing Grace of God, I'm done 
by like 3 o'clock 3:30 kids are 

1228
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,360
off the bus, kids are home. 
All right, get the practice. 

1229
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,760
Let's go, let's go coach and all
that. 

1230
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,280
So I haven't missed anything. 
And, and, and there's, there's 

1231
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,320
nothing, John, there's there's 
nothing like it. 

1232
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,840
Like when you see their first 
basket, dude, or their first 

1233
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,960
hit, I remember, you know, my 
son's probably more. 

1234
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,720
I mean, he's very serious. 
You know, sometimes he's too 

1235
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,880
serious. 
I'm like, dude, calm down. 

1236
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,000
You just turned 11. 
It's not game seven of the World

1237
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Series. 
Relax. 

1238
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,720
That's how I was though. 
Me too. 

1239
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,440
I get it. 
Whereas with my daughter, you 

1240
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,400
know, she's she's she's 9 and 
she stopped doing it this year. 

1241
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,040
But last year she scored basket 
with doing, you know, cartwheels

1242
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,920
down the court. 
It's totally different. 

1243
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Those those things are amazing. 
But if you do miss something, 

1244
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,240
the ability to say, hey, you 
know, Andrew, I'd like you to be

1245
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,520
Coach Pitino or whomever it is, 
you know, 567 years from now 

1246
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,520
when he's old enough to really 
know what's going on, You get to

1247
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,080
give them things that the 
average dad can't give them, 

1248
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,000
even if you have to miss a 
couple things along the way. 

1249
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,400
So that's the trade off, man. 
That's life. 

1250
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,080
And you know, I, I, I had the 
reality of and, and your show is

1251
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,640
real. 
You know, I got a phone call on 

1252
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,600
a Tuesday or on a Monday morning
two years ago and my my dad had 

1253
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,000
passed away at the age of 56. 
Wow. 

1254
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,520
And. 
You know that? 

1255
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,760
Sorry. 
No, no, no. 

1256
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,280
I didn't know that Like that. 
OK. 

1257
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,200
No, no. 
And you know, it was 6. 

1258
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,800
You know, God has a way of doing
things because Brandon, I 

1259
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,080
ironically, you know, it's just 
I didn't have any games that 

1260
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,520
week. 
It was so weird because when I 

1261
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,920
was looking at my schedule, I'm 
like, this is to begin with, 

1262
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,840
this is odd. 
Normally, you know, Wednesday or

1263
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,840
there's at least a game. 
It could be a women's game, It 

1264
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,040
could be something. 
Sure. 

1265
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,400
It wasn't anything that week. 
And so you know. 

1266
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,280
But relation but so but I 
learned so much from my dad. 

1267
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,760
My dad was a business owner in 
Northeast Ohio. 

1268
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,880
You know, I love the stuff when 
with you and your dad, you know,

1269
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,200
as on your on your last show at 
FAN. 

1270
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,960
That's what matters more than 
any show, any game and I had no 

1271
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,360
regrets. 
My father was a was a great man.

1272
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,680
He taught me how to work hard 
and taught me how to be kind to 

1273
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,400
people, no matter who you 
encountered. 

1274
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,520
He was the same way with the 
janitor as he was with the 

1275
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,280
executive. 
And and so then when the gift of

1276
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,400
my son comes last May, I just 
thought this is the full circle 

1277
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,040
of life. 
In a year and a half, I've 

1278
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,320
experienced one ending. 
And you can dwell on it or you 

1279
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,200
can do what your dad would want.
And he would want me to live and

1280
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,720
be the best father to my son. 
And he's looking down. 

1281
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,160
He, there's no question he's 
looking down, but that's, that 

1282
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,320
then puts perspective into how 
you are as a parent because you 

1283
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,120
know, you know, nothing is 
nothing is promised, nothing is 

1284
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,880
given. 
And, and we have to live each 

1285
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:08,360
day, you know, with, with, with 
the utmost just just got to got 

1286
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,840
to live each day like it's your 
last in terms of how you, how 

1287
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,920
you go about it. 
So I never try to go to bed 

1288
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,840
angry. 
But that was a that's something 

1289
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,040
that's part of my journey too. 
Of like, I look, I look at that.

1290
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,880
I look at how life changed in 
one phone call. 

1291
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,280
Got to fly home to Cleveland. 
No other game mattered. 

1292
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,640
No other thing mattered than 
that. 

1293
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,040
That's where your family means 
everything. 

1294
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Did he have a heart attack? 
Had was. 

1295
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,320
It was. 
Yeah, he had a heart. 

1296
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,280
He had a heart attack. 
He, he, he owned his own 

1297
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,040
business. 
Yep. 

1298
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,440
And you know, I, I mean, yeah, 
he, he had a heart attack and 

1299
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,160
gone at 56. 
He owned his own. 

1300
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,920
He had his own business and he 
worked himself very hard. 

1301
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,600
I could not do what he was 
doing, metal plating and 

1302
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,160
finishing. 
And you know, he was, it's a 

1303
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,600
great example too. 
And I say this to people, you 

1304
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,040
know, get yourself checked out 
and, and, and look at things 

1305
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,080
and, you know, take care of 
yourself because it's, it's 

1306
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,280
important folks, especially in, 
in, in, in these times when life

1307
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,160
is chaotic and whatnot. 
And you know, if you, you always

1308
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,200
say, like if you had gotten 
checked out maybe a week prior, 

1309
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,720
maybe they fixed some of the 
issues. 

1310
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,440
But you know, he, I saw a lot 
through my dad. 

1311
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,720
I saw a hard he worked. 
I saw the kind of person he was.

1312
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,240
He was a recovered alcoholic. 
He did recover. 

1313
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,880
He did recover. 
Now, did that, did that hurt his

1314
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,080
health? 
Of course it did. 

1315
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,560
It's a terrible thing. 
But I saw him make it through 

1316
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,640
that battle. 
And that taught me a lot too, of

1317
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,200
how you of how you have to 
fight. 

1318
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,760
None of us are perfect. 
And who of us is if somebody 

1319
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,040
comes with me and says Hey, I 
went through this, I will say BT

1320
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:43,040
like I've seen a lot in the 1st 
30 years to say hey, you know 

1321
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,560
this happens and guess. 
What? 

1322
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,000
Maybe I haven't lived your exact
scenario, but I get it. 

1323
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,160
I get where you're coming from 
that I think that builds 

1324
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,800
humility of like you just life. 
Everybody's got a different 

1325
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,320
cross, a different burden that 
they deal with, that they deal 

1326
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,000
with in life. 
And whether or not you relate to

1327
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,360
it, but at least you can, you 
can understand that people deal 

1328
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,040
with that. 
So that that was something that 

1329
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,480
I dealt with, but it I think it 
I live my life for my dad every 

1330
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960
day. 
I can tell that you're 

1331
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,320
religious. 
They could tell. 

1332
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,400
I could just tell, right? 
You have to have faith. 

1333
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,720
No. 
Question about it. 

1334
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,000
And if you don't, that's OK. 
I'm not here to be like, you 

1335
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,960
know, I'm not sure to come out 
and be a preacher. 

1336
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,680
I'm just saying it's if you 
don't have your faith, and then 

1337
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,080
it's kind of why the Big East 
has been a match for me too, 

1338
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,440
because of all these Catholic 
school. 

1339
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,400
I'm with you by the way. 
Catholic school myself 1st 

1340
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,720
through 8th grade Catholic 
school back then there's a while

1341
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,640
ago had nuns then I went to a 
Jesuit high school so I get it 

1342
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,680
man. 
Jesuit high school here too. 

1343
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,000
I not St. 
Ignatius in Cleveland, yeah. 

1344
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,360
Saint Ignatius. 
First MET game I ever went to, 

1345
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,240
you know, first MET game I ever 
went to, there's a guy down the 

1346
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,680
third baseline holding the 
rosary. 

1347
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,200
I'm just like, OK, I can, you 
know, being a Clevelander, I can

1348
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,680
relate with these people a 
little bit. 

1349
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,640
I came into, I came into the 
metropolitan area for College in

1350
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,440
13. 
Yeah, I haven't seen anybody win

1351
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,760
a title yet. 
I'm just waiting. 

1352
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,160
For I haven't seen anybody hold 
the rosary bead since my 

1353
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,040
grandma. 
I mean, that's been a minute, 

1354
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,240
John. 
Usually the old Italians would 

1355
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,840
hold the rosary beads. 
You said a guy was holding it in

1356
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,200
the state. 
Hey, do what you got to do. 

1357
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,640
It's going to be Knick fans, 
Knick fans with rosaries this 

1358
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,240
spring. 
Knicks aren't winning anything 

1359
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,200
this year. 
They're not winning the 

1360
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,080
championship. 
They just, but I, I have one, I 

1361
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,800
have one serious question for 
you on on the heels of what we 

1362
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,560
were just discussing. 
Do you feel not a 

1363
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,760
responsibility? 
Are you comfortable talking 

1364
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,920
about religion outwardly? 
Because a lot of people aren't 

1365
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,920
and they suppress it. 
And when they do try to speak, I

1366
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,360
don't mean shove it down 
people's throat. 

1367
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,280
I know you're not that kind of 
guy. 

1368
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,520
Neither am I, but I believe what
I believe. 

1369
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,120
I, I espouse it more as I've 
gotten older, it's become more 

1370
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,120
even though I, it's been a part 
of my whole life. 

1371
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,760
I got away from it a little bit.
My wife back in she's a Dallas, 

1372
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,040
TX girl. 
Christianity strong. 

1373
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,000
It means a lot to me. 
I pray more than I used to do. 

1374
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,080
I love going to church. 
Probably not, I'll be honest 

1375
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,800
with you. 
I mean, you know, I'd rather 

1376
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,040
probably sit on the couch on a 
Sunday if I have an hour. 

1377
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,240
But we go a little bit more than
we used to. 

1378
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,280
Or are you comfortable 
projecting that knowing that you

1379
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,920
have prominent role and voice in
sports? 

1380
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,440
Do you do that a little bit? 
I probably don't do it enough 

1381
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,840
and I, I don't get asked about 
it. 

1382
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,440
But yeah, I, I, I believe in my 
faith and, and I don't believe 

1383
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,920
that just because you go to 
church on Sunday that makes you 

1384
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,040
a great or not great human 
being. 

1385
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,680
I, I do get to church, but some 
of the people who will go and I,

1386
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,160
we all know somebody, I mean, I 
do, you know, I'm not, and I'm 

1387
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,720
not throwing stones at glass 
houses. 

1388
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,880
But you, you know, somebody who 
goes and then they during the 

1389
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,720
week from Monday to Saturday, 
they're, they're not a positive 

1390
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,280
person towards other people. 
And you say, wait a minute, but 

1391
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,000
then you go, so does that 
justify? 

1392
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,680
Like is your way of justify for 
that that you go to into church 

1393
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,880
on Sunday? 
I don't, you know, I think 

1394
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,600
religion is different for 
everybody. 

1395
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,680
But I believe in a higher power 
and I believe in things. 

1396
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,920
There are things that have 
happened on this journey that 

1397
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,160
coincidence doesn't explain how 
and why and where and what 

1398
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,200
happened. 
You know, when my dad passed 

1399
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:14,600
away, we were at the church. 
The outpouring of flowers, see, 

1400
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,120
because it was in the middle of 
the season of college basketball

1401
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,320
season, Brandon, you know, 
coaches and administrators and 

1402
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,440
people who are very good friends
of mine could not make it 

1403
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,040
because they had game days. 
St. 

1404
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:25,760
John's. 
St. 

1405
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,040
John's was playing Connecticut 
this Saturday, that Saturday, 

1406
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,720
and I was supposed to be at the 
Garden for that game. 

1407
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,720
And it just didn't happen. 
And it was a noon game, huge 

1408
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,440
game at the Garden. 
Yeah, I did it, Yeah. 

1409
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:40,320
You did it. 
And a couple years back, I 

1410
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,920
remember being in the back of 
the church ahead of the Mass and

1411
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,880
the Funeral Home director came 
out and now we're in Cleveland. 

1412
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,520
Funeral Home director came out 
to me and said, hey, we just had

1413
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,640
one more flower, set of flowers 
get delivered. 

1414
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,560
Are you OK with us putting them 
on the altar? 

1415
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,440
And I said, of course, 
absolutely. 

1416
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,880
And you know, he, I said, well, 
where are they from? 

1417
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,120
And this was at, you know, 1010 
o'clock funeral Mass and Yukon 

1418
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,600
St. 
John's was at noon and funeral 

1419
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,160
director looked back at me and 
Saint Johns had sent prior that 

1420
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,720
week. 
Funeral director looked back at 

1421
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,360
me and said the card says here 
Coach Hurley and UConn men's 

1422
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:22,680
basketball. 
And I'm like the in that moment,

1423
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:27,840
it was like life will be a life.
Life will never be the same when

1424
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,080
you lose your parent, but you 
know that you've got your, you 

1425
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,840
know that there's people out 
there who are supportive and who

1426
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,360
understand and, and, and the 
only thing they could do there 

1427
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,600
was that, but that that 
resonated with me of like that's

1428
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,520
dad's way of saying remember, 
keep doing what you're doing 

1429
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,120
because people, people unders 
they, they enjoy that and you've

1430
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,320
got to keep going here. 
You do have to get. 

1431
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,000
I call the game that following 
week. 

1432
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,280
I didn't know how it was going 
to go. 

1433
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,240
I didn't make it the story. 
I just kind of did the job and 

1434
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,040
it it was, it was good for me to
get back into the rotation of 

1435
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,360
things. 
But I don't talk outwardly a ton

1436
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,040
about faith because I it, it 
feels like people have all 

1437
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,080
different feelings about it. 
But if asked about, I will say 

1438
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,720
this. 
Yes, I believe in God. 

1439
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,360
I rely on my faith to help me 
through ups and downs of life. 

1440
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:21,319
And I understand that man, I am 
not perfect. 

1441
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,920
And guess what? 
I can get fired up, you know, 

1442
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,600
or, or, or have a tough day at 
home too, or I'm like, hey, you 

1443
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,000
know, where are we going? 
We got I got work, I got life. 

1444
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,000
Yeah, man, you're a human being.
We're. 

1445
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,880
Human, we're human beings. 
And so I I say to myself, if if 

1446
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,439
I don't have God look to look up
to and say, please help me, you 

1447
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,640
know, beat, please help me in 
this time, then who am I going 

1448
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,720
to go? 
To yeah, I do know. 

1449
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,240
I do know to me. 
I don't know where I'd be. 

1450
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,840
It's it's you know, and it's 
hard to do that like where you 

1451
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,800
know, as the provider, 
especially when I lost my job, 

1452
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,120
right and for some reason at the
fan was very natural and easy 

1453
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,200
for me to make this transition. 
I don't mean like doing I'm not 

1454
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,279
saying the show's great. 
I mean to just move on with my 

1455
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:11,120
life and and and and just plow 
ahead. 

1456
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:16,040
It was like a calm, right, But I
think when I was younger it was 

1457
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,399
hard. 
Like I think I had to control 

1458
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:19,800
everything. 
Like you don't control anything.

1459
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,160
Like you can control your work 
ethic and how you treat people 

1460
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,640
and how engaged you are and how 
you know immersed you are in the

1461
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,600
job and what following up with 
emails and calls and being ready

1462
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,120
for A-Z. 
Call it a game and doing a show 

1463
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,840
and having notes and being 
buttoned up and but there's just

1464
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,120
certain things you can't 
control. 

1465
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,600
And it's crazy, John, But when I
think when you learn that, I 

1466
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,040
think there's a piece and it 
seems like you learned it at an 

1467
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,160
earlier age than I did. 
Good for you figuring this out 

1468
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,680
quicker than me, man. 
I'm I'm almost envious of you. 

1469
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,000
Good job dude. 
Well, you know what a mentor by 

1470
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,720
the name of Rick Genteel, who 
produced the Olympics for a 

1471
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:57,280
number of years for CBS Sports. 
Rick said to me, John, you got 

1472
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,560
to remember something. 
I was, I was picked over some 

1473
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:03,240
someone for a for an FS1 
assignment that I was hoping 

1474
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,160
for. 
I didn't get it. 

1475
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,000
And and he said you got to 
remember something. 

1476
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,240
Only one person is the TV play 
by play announcer on a game. 

1477
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,520
The same way that only one 
person is the head coach of that

1478
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,200
basketball team for a game, the 
same way that that one person is

1479
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,880
the only one that is producing 
the game, the the color analyst 

1480
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,080
on the game. 
Yes, there are other people who 

1481
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,280
would love to have that job. 
And and he said someday you'll 

1482
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,280
probably hear your name called 
for that job. 

1483
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:39,560
But how you handle the quote 
defeat is is what is what people

1484
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,560
will really appreciate. 
And so I had AI mean Brandon, 

1485
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,680
like there's there's times 
where, you know, I was calling 

1486
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,800
something that probably, you 
know, 1000 people were watching 

1487
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,280
on television as opposed to 
400,000. 

1488
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,400
You don't treat the job any 
differently. 

1489
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,320
You do your job the way that 
you've been taught to do your 

1490
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,720
job. 
You don't look at viewership. 

1491
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,080
Of course we all want to call. 
Everybody wants to call the 

1492
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,160
Super Bowl. 
If we talked to 50 high school 

1493
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,920
kids right now and I said how 
many of you would want to call 

1494
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,360
the Super Bowl one day? 
I would assume. 

1495
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,840
Yeah, and raise their hand, 
everybody. 

1496
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,560
But, but you have to realize 
there's only one Mike Tirico, 

1497
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,160
you know, And oh, by the way, 
there was a time when Mike was 

1498
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:24,000
like 6th or 7th on the roster 
and you got to someone said to 

1499
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,200
me once a guy by the name of 
Bardia Shaw Reyes at Fox said 

1500
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,440
you have to know where you are 
on the ladder. 

1501
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,520
Understand that you're you're, 
you're just not. 

1502
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,920
You're just not going to get the
assignment that a Gus Johnson 

1503
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:35,960
gets. 
You're not there yet. 

1504
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,120
You're not there yet At that 
point, sure, But you? 

1505
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,920
Deliver the because if you don't
deliver the best at where you 

1506
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,920
are on the ladder, you can 
easily get removed from that 

1507
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,040
ladder because there's a bunch 
of other people who who would 

1508
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,040
like it. 
So I think that that and the 

1509
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,440
journey knowing there's only one
guy who gets that call and if 

1510
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:51,720
you ever do get that call, 
that's a. 

1511
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,360
Privilege. 
There you go. 

1512
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,840
To get that call at the end of 
the day, you know, Yeah, you and

1513
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,000
Mink, I I look at it from my 
bench, why I say it is a 

1514
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,600
privilege to call an NCAA 
Tournament. 

1515
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,880
Game I agree with that I. 
Don't care who you're calling. 

1516
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,120
It I agree it's an honor. 
I can't wait. 

1517
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:08,680
I really. 
It means the world to me. 

1518
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,920
Let me ask you this. 
So, but nine year old, 10 year 

1519
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,640
old John Fanto, Ohio, I mean, I 
know you played sport. 

1520
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,040
Were you a decent athlete or 
were you always like call them 

1521
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,640
the games? 
Like, could you play anything? 

1522
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,080
Anything. 
OK, so I once had a 28 point 

1523
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,480
game in Gradesville, Yeah. 
What CYO? 

1524
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:28,560
Like what grade are we talking 
about? 

1525
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,160
8th grade, last game. 
It's Saint Bernadette's gym. 

1526
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,320
Yeah, So hopefully there's some 
college classmate in your chat 

1527
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,480
that can attest this. 
And if not, I'm going to make 

1528
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:40,120
them get in. 
But I could, I could shoot the 

1529
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,000
ball. 
You know, I could play some 

1530
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,400
hoops. 
Not when when I was. 

1531
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:44,920
Yeah. 
Not. 

1532
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,080
I mean, I'm, we're not talking 
about like intramurals and all 

1533
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,040
that. 
Like Co and I played high school

1534
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,440
football. 
I played it for two years. 

1535
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,600
I was a left guard. 
I was a turnstile as a left 

1536
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,240
guard. 
You know, think of your worst 

1537
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,280
Who's the Giants offensive 
lineman I was? 

1538
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,320
Going to say actually The Jets 
old line's actually pretty good.

1539
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:05,800
Who was the old lineman that got
like 3 penalties? 

1540
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,000
How about Evan Neal? 
Yeah, back-to-back to back to 

1541
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,840
start the game that first I 
think I was in, but that may 

1542
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,240
have been against the Saints, I 
think when it was like 3 in a 

1543
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,920
row to start the game back. 
Yeah, I. 

1544
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,880
Need to my quarterbacks needed 
Saints to help protect them when

1545
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,680
I was in the game. 
Because the fact of the matter 

1546
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,480
is this when I was in the game, 
I got called for back-to-back 

1547
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:25,080
holding penalties and I said to 
my offensive line coach, do you 

1548
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,000
want me to come out? 
And he goes, no, I want to see 

1549
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,160
how long survive. 
It's good, but did you take it 

1550
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,120
seriously? 
Like, were you in the way? 

1551
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,160
You were? 
You were, you know, killed. 

1552
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,080
The champion, No, locked in. 
I mean, look, I just wasn't very

1553
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,920
good. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1554
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,320
And then baseball, I pitched. 
I pitched till about 8th grade. 

1555
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,560
I pitched during a time like 
when I was in 4th, 5th, 6th 

1556
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,120
grade when pitching is starting 
to become a thing when the coach

1557
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,400
pitch goes away. 
Yeah. 

1558
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:53,960
Oh yeah. 
I was very valuable to my team 

1559
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,680
because Brandon, because you and
I are watching baseball growing 

1560
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,120
up, I realized it's not about 
velocity. 

1561
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,800
Just find the strike zone. 
You got throw strikes, man, Got 

1562
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,520
it. 
So I did and so at that age I 

1563
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,600
was and then when things started
to get serious and I wasn't able

1564
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,880
to like get it to that, get into
that number started to tee off 

1565
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,440
and that was that was the end of
that. 

1566
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,920
But but yeah, I did play a 
little bit of sports and then 

1567
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,600
after my sophomore year a 
football. 

1568
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:23,080
I said, you know what, I'm going
to go for this play by play job 

1569
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,920
at Ignatius. 
Saint Ignatius has a great 

1570
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,040
broadcasting network. 
You know, it's dozens and dozens

1571
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,920
of kids. 
I felt like I was in a 

1572
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,440
quarterback competition. 
I felt like I was in a 

1573
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:36,960
quarterback competition trying 
to get the play by play job for 

1574
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,320
football. 
And with three other guys, three

1575
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,560
other students in my high 
school, we were at Fawcett 

1576
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,480
Stadium, the home of the Pro 
Football Hall. 

1577
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,120
Ignatius was scrimmaging a 
school called Ken McKinley. 

1578
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,120
And each of us, each of the 
candidates got a quarter. 

1579
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,120
You get 1/4 to show off your 
skills. 

1580
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:55,000
Wow. 
Got the call that Monday. 

1581
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,200
You, you won the job. 
I called the state championship 

1582
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,080
game. 
I went from the bench to the 

1583
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,760
broadcast booth and call got to 
call the state championship 

1584
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,040
game. 
That's sick, dude. 

1585
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,200
That's that's and you won the 
game too. 

1586
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,440
That's wait, wait, so you but 
you didn't get a ring? 

1587
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:10,400
If you were still on the team, 
even if you were horrendous, you

1588
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,120
would have got a ring. 
They gave me a ring. 

1589
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,640
They gave you one. 
So that's kind of like since a 

1590
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,040
little like when Tony Romo 
transition, he still knew the 

1591
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,600
league so well because he had 
just played. 

1592
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,240
You had a you had a you had all 
the Intel on the team. 

1593
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,840
So probably gave you an 
advantage because you were 

1594
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,000
playing. 
Big advantage. 

1595
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,680
No question. 
You're absolutely right. 

1596
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,680
And that that kind of helped me 
get started. 

1597
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,520
You know, it was like by being 
the end of bench, kid was able 

1598
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,160
to just take that and try for 
football. 

1599
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,200
So, so let's say Johnny Fantas 
in the car, kisses the wife, 

1600
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,320
kisses the little boy Andrew on 
the cheek. 

1601
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,760
All right, Daddy's got to go to 
work and you're not flying, 

1602
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,440
you're driving. 
You got a 5 hour drive and 

1603
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:48,920
rather than fly, you're driving.
What kind of music is John 

1604
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,240
listening to? 
What are you pumping? 

1605
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,200
Billy Joel. 
My favorite, I love it. 

1606
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,400
I love like there's different 
Joel songs. 

1607
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:02,400
I love Matter of Trust. 
Phenomenal Stiletto. 

1608
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,400
I like stiletto. 
Not one of my favorites, but I 

1609
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,640
mean Billy's my all time. 
Favorite, but then all of, but 

1610
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,320
then all of the hits. 
I mean state of mind. 

1611
01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:14,720
Of course, yeah. 
And moving out and my life. 

1612
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:15,880
There you go. 
Big shot. 

1613
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,920
I've seen Joel four or five 
times. 

1614
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,840
I me too. 
I hope he comes back. 

1615
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,800
Yeah, I think it was. 
I thought, I thought he's read 

1616
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,200
something from his daughter, a 
quote from his daughter the 

1617
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,520
other day that he had some sort 
of procedure and she was like, 

1618
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,480
she was saying he was doing 
well. 

1619
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:32,360
I hope he's OK. 
I'll tell you a really, you 

1620
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,080
know, all the stuff with Billy, 
like in the 70s way before your 

1621
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,240
time, even though you you just 
mentioned a bunch of the songs. 

1622
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,920
I think that to me, when he got 
to River of Dreams, I'm like, 

1623
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,320
yeah, I'm not really feeling 
that stuff. 

1624
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,520
You know, I like River of Dreams
as a song, but not the whole 

1625
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:46,760
thing. 
Yeah, no, I don't even really 

1626
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,600
love this song. 
It's just to me, it's a little 

1627
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,760
duopy, which Billy obviously has
that That's that's that was his 

1628
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,640
inspiration. 
But to me, down East or Alexa, 

1629
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,960
you're talking Stormfront, like 
you're talking some of that 

1630
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,000
stuff after, you know, glass 
houses. 

1631
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,360
I think that's some of his best 
work. 

1632
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,920
And the crazy thing, did you see
the Billy Joel? 

1633
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,200
Was it on Netflix or Apple? 
OK, you saw you. 

1634
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,320
So by the way. 
Don't ask me why another one. 

1635
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,240
Don't ask me why. 
So the crazy thing about that, 

1636
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,760
he was broke. 
You know, his manager stole $30 

1637
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,320
million from him. 
It's one thing to try to pump 

1638
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,920
out a great song when he just 
tried to be a great musician. 

1639
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,000
It's another thing when you've 
got to construct songs because 

1640
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,480
you're piss poor, broke, and you
got to get back on even footing.

1641
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,600
I mean, imagine the pressure of 
being Billy Joel and knowing the

1642
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,920
expectation of what people think
you're going to put out there. 

1643
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,360
You got nothing in the bank. 
You just got $30 million taken 

1644
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,280
from you and you've got to write
music and you've got to hit a 

1645
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:43,920
home run. 
That's pressure. 

1646
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,600
Pressure. 
And he did pressure and hit. 

1647
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,760
A Grand Slam love pressure I'm I
got my playlist on my Spotify 

1648
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,600
playlist so other other bands 
that I've got on here Fleetwood 

1649
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,160
Mac. 
I love Fleetwood Mac. 

1650
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,600
Steely Dan. 
I like Steely Dan. 

1651
01:17:58,840 --> 01:17:59,920
Eagles. 
Loved. 

1652
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:01,360
I saw him in concert. 
Love him. 

1653
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,720
Jackson Browne. 
Loved a couple of good songs. 

1654
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,920
I like Jackson. 
Browne, Bachman. 

1655
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,440
Turner OverDrive. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1656
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,960
Yeah, Dan, Dan, Dan. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1657
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,080
Doobie Brothers, One of my 
favorites. 

1658
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,520
I I really do like doobies. 
Little Phil Collins. 

1659
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,720
OK, I like Phil. 
Elton John, Dave Matthews, Band 

1660
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,960
Boss, Skag, Stevie Wonder, 
Lionel. 

1661
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,400
Boss Skaggs. 
That that's under the radar one 

1662
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,360
Boss Skaggs. 
One of my dad's favorites was 

1663
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,920
Bob Seger. 
I. 

1664
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,080
So I got a funny story for you 
about Bob Seger, by the way. 

1665
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,560
Very you are. 
You're an old soul. 

1666
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,080
Very much so. 
Yeah, that's a good thing, man. 

1667
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,040
Given you said what are you, 30?
How old are you now, 30? 

1668
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,720
30 But that's why I grew up with
Hey City of Cleveland 

1669
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,520
Rock'n'roll. 
I know, I know. 

1670
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,000
I get it. 
I am. 

1671
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,600
This was my second or third job 
and I'm working. 

1672
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,040
I'm doing sports radio in 
Detroit and I live in Troy, 

1673
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,760
which is about, it's about, it's
actually 16 miles from where the

1674
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,480
Lions and and everybody plays 
downtown right on 75. 

1675
01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:01,800
I'm in a nice suburb. 
I'm not like in the heart of 

1676
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,200
this. 
I'm not below 8 mile, put it 

1677
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,640
that way. 
And I'm, I'm going there was an 

1678
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:10,840
indoor bubble toward Pontiac and
it's so cold up there as you 

1679
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,840
know where you can go and hit 
golf balls, right? 

1680
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,080
And you know, I'm hitting golf 
balls. 

1681
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,880
It's like a, it's like a just a 
massive monstrosity of a golf 

1682
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,760
bubble. 
I'm ripping away trying to RIP 

1683
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,040
and RIP and I see this guy next 
to him. 

1684
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,000
I'm like he's got such a pure 
swing and and John, all I hear 

1685
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,840
is Flack, Flack, Flack, like 
pure and five iron, right. 

1686
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,360
It's Bob Seger. 
Come on, it's Bob Seger. 

1687
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,320
I love Bob Seger and and I said 
and I didn't want to bother him.

1688
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,040
I'm like and finally I'm like 
Mr. Seger how I don't he doesn't

1689
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,240
know I'm I'm nobody now. 
He certainly doesn't know me. 

1690
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,440
Then I'm like Mr. Seger. 
I just wanted to say hi. 

1691
01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:45,960
I'm a huge fan. 
Yeah. 

1692
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,280
I said, you know, hey. 
And I was out of college a 

1693
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,120
couple of years before that. 
I said I think the highest 

1694
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,240
compliment that I could pay you 
as a musician is that we used to

1695
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,400
listen to music in college. 
And even though a lot of your 

1696
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:57,920
stuff is older, I said we, we 
love you. 

1697
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:03,240
He was so genuinely taken back 
and receptive of hearing that 

1698
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,840
from a younger fan of his at 
that point, younger fan of his 

1699
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,320
music. 
What a great guy. 

1700
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,760
Very affable. 
Very. 

1701
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,480
And then he wound up being a 
great conversationalist. 

1702
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,400
I felt like I was intruding on 
his time. 

1703
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,040
He talked to me for like 15 
minutes, kept bullshit and I'm 

1704
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,440
like, this guy's the best. 
Did he? 

1705
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:19,640
Yeah. 
Oh, God. 

1706
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,040
And he's really good. 
I mean, yes, he is. 

1707
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,280
You, you think? 
You know we've got tonight comes

1708
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,640
to mind. 
Oh yeah, we got tonight, Yeah. 

1709
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,120
Night moves. 
Oh, that's a great. 

1710
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,440
Hollywood Nights. 
Hollywood Nights a little bit 

1711
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:36,640
later, Sure. 
Yeah, that's what I'm. 

1712
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,120
That's what I'm talking about. 
Like what? 

1713
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,840
Give me a group that you haven't
seen in concert that you'd want 

1714
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:46,040
to. 
Who? 

1715
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,360
I've seen Hall and Oates. 
Did you really hold an oats? 

1716
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:51,000
Man, yeah, you. 
Are an old soul. 

1717
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,760
PNC, Yeah. 
Man either. 

1718
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,760
Yeah, right. 
Man either. 

1719
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:04,440
Yeah, she's gone. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's a good 

1720
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:07,000
question. 
I mean, look, you know, doobies,

1721
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,880
I have appreciation for earth, 
wind and fire I've never seen. 

1722
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,480
And I I think it would be I 
would just like to see them 

1723
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:16,600
before I got to saw see Lionel 
Richie at the Final Four last 

1724
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,800
year. 
I thought he was still 

1725
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,440
excellent. 
So he's a legend, man. 

1726
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:22,400
Lionel Richie had some banging 
dancing on the ceiling. 

1727
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:22,920
I. 
Mean. 

1728
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,360
Not to mention The Commodores 
before that, Lionel. 

1729
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,320
Richie was dancing on the 
ceiling. 

1730
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,320
Hopefully the Johnnies are this 
weekend. 

1731
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,920
Man, I'm going to let you. 
I'm going to get you out of here

1732
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,160
in a minute or so. 
I want to make sure I I didn't 

1733
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,040
miss anything. 
Let's see. 

1734
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,600
Hit the soldier. 
Are you going to hit anywhere in

1735
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,800
San Diego? 
I don't know what here's the 

1736
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,240
problem, John. 
So I don't have anxieties about 

1737
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,560
anything like, you know, I 
don't, I thank you know, 

1738
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,080
nothing. 
I mean, I got enough things 

1739
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,800
going around this, this brain of
mine, right? 

1740
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,400
But I'm really not that anxious 
about much in life. 

1741
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,280
I'm not, but I'm a little bit 
anxious about this because #1. 

1742
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,120
So we were going to leave today.
Initially the university said 

1743
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,120
they're going to leave Tuesday, 
but it's, you know, dependent 

1744
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,160
upon the NCAA with the charters.
Blah. 

1745
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,760
Get out there, get used to the 
time difference, get some shots 

1746
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,840
up, whatever. 
So if that's the case, I would 

1747
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,880
have gone. 
They're going tomorrow. 

1748
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,240
We're leaving tomorrow 
chartering and I think 10:00 AM.

1749
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,000
So we'll be out out there 
whenever we get out there. 

1750
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,760
But the problem is it's still 
kind of cold here. 

1751
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,400
I don't know where my shorts 
are. 

1752
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,120
I don't know where my golf 
shirts are. 

1753
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,880
It's like, and I'm not like I 
don't get overwhelmed by 

1754
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,360
packing. 
I don't, you know, I don't need 

1755
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,360
to pack like 9 pairs of shoes 
like my wife. 

1756
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,840
But I'm a little like, what do I
bring? 

1757
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,840
Where do I go? 
And I'm going to be there 

1758
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,680
Wednesday, Thursday, provided 
they win Friday, Friday, 

1759
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,360
Saturday, Sunday, even if they 
win or lose against Kansas, 

1760
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:43,840
whatever, probably come back 
Monday. 

1761
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,320
Like I'm going to be gone a 
while. 

1762
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,400
So I don't really know what the 
hell I'm going to do because now

1763
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,240
I got to figure out about how 
I'm going to do this show and 

1764
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,200
I'm going to figure it out 
without my microphone, which is 

1765
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,040
drilled into my desk and my 
camera. 

1766
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,040
I, I, I got to figure. 
You got any advice here, Dude? 

1767
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,960
I got to figure this out, John. 
Well, you got some radio guys 

1768
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,720
there, so you got. 
It's not like you don't. 

1769
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,480
You can't, you know, maybe get 
creative a little bit, but but 

1770
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:12,400
you've got yeah, I mean, I've 
I've tried the Amazon and you 

1771
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,200
could always get into the hotel 
like a like a little portable 

1772
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,560
that then you could put either 
through your laptop or with your

1773
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,440
phone. 
I've got that equipment and it's

1774
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,280
pretty easy to use. 
And then you've got that to to 

1775
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,560
number one, number one, have 
through your computer. 

1776
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,480
But I've had the there's a 
microphone you could get it off 

1777
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:32,200
Amazon where you can use and it 
USB sees right into your phone. 

1778
01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:33,760
OK. 
Is it the? 

1779
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,720
Is it a clip on clip on type? 
Pretty easy. 

1780
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,640
And then St. 
John's beats, you know, Northern

1781
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,280
Iowa and you're in the back and 
maybe you get the quick combo 

1782
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,440
with coach or or a player or 
whoever, like, yeah, it's it's 

1783
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,640
now technology's never been 
better. 

1784
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:47,960
But you're right. 
Like when you don't have your 

1785
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,240
full studio set up, yes, it 
might be a hotel. 

1786
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,200
Maybe it's a San Diego park or 
something. 

1787
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,440
You have to have a little bit of
fun out in the mouth. 

1788
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:55,480
I'll. 
Figure it. 

1789
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,760
Out I think you'll have a nice 
if as long as they win Friday, 

1790
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,280
you might have a nice weekend 
weekend diary of what's of 

1791
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,440
what's going on out there. 
The the the curious thing is, I 

1792
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,440
mean, or not curious, but the 
crazy thing is, you know, you 

1793
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:10,280
get back from San Diego and then
it's like, OK, if they're in DC,

1794
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,440
here we go. 
I know the tournaments 

1795
01:24:12,440 --> 01:24:15,920
exhausting and I I'm not AI am 
not. 

1796
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,600
I hate when people complain. 
I I don't like it, but I will 

1797
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,400
say the tournament turn around, 
it's something that it, it does 

1798
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:24,800
not stop. 
It's a lot. 

1799
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:26,920
It's a lot. 
So all the work you do, you come

1800
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,040
back then and little Andrew's 
sleeping tucked away, 10 months 

1801
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,120
old, God bless him. 
You sit down with your wife and 

1802
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:34,920
you want to have a drink. 
Do you have a or or do you not 

1803
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,040
drink because of your dad? 
No, no, no, I do drink. 

1804
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,120
Yeah, well. 
What are we doing? 

1805
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:39,360
Beer. 
Glass of wine? 

1806
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,360
What is Fanta sitting down to 
kick back and have a? 

1807
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,400
Perfect drink for me would be a 
glass of cab OK, if I have a 

1808
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,440
beer, it's a Miller Lite. 
You know, there's my there's or 

1809
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:51,440
Great Lakes, you know, like love
Great Lakes brewing. 

1810
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:55,600
They do sell it in in different 
liquor stores across New York, 

1811
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,200
New Jersey. 
If you've never had Great Lakes 

1812
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,960
Christmas sale folks, your life 
will be. 

1813
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,080
Changed. 
I love it. 

1814
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,000
It is fantastic. 
Browns, Tribe, Cavs, One team 

1815
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,920
can win a championship in the 
next 5 years. 

1816
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,800
What would make you feel better?
Oh man, I mean, I'll cry if the 

1817
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,200
Browns if they freaking win a 
home playoff game, because 

1818
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,760
that's why we haven't even 
hosted a playoff game in my time

1819
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,120
is in my in my 30 years of life,
we've never had a home playoff 

1820
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:21,840
game. 
So. 

1821
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,880
It's I get it. 
When Jet fans complain, I get 

1822
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,240
it. 
I'll be emotional with the 

1823
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,040
Guardians. 
And I do think I, I pray to the 

1824
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,280
heavens, I do think someday we 
will do it. 

1825
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,080
We came so close in 2016. 
I think they're so Brandon. 

1826
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,880
They are so well run. 
Yes, they are. 

1827
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,360
Antonetti and churn off what 
they've built. 

1828
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,960
Yep, Stephen Vogt was an ace 
higher. 

1829
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,120
You know, if you if you put 
together teams that were like, 

1830
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,720
OK, they're cheaper, but they'd 
be on the list of teams that 

1831
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,000
like, man, they just you know, 
those play that playoff series 

1832
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,680
with the Yankees now the year 
before last. 

1833
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,560
It was still a great series. 
The Yankees, they took it, but 

1834
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,760
every game went down to the wire
and John Carlos Stanton said. 

1835
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,400
I'm not losing. 
I know. 

1836
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,240
Oh, and Judge hit one too as 
well, but Stanton hit that bomb.

1837
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,320
So what was your dad's favorite 
team? 

1838
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,920
Which team was his favorite? 
Like the one. 

1839
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,720
That brown guy, it's a football 
town. 

1840
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,960
It's a football town. 
It's a piece of brown sky. 

1841
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:20,560
But the, the Tribe, that place 
is rocking and rolling all 

1842
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,680
throughout the summer. 
It's a fun weekend vibe. 

1843
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,760
They've done a great job with 
that ballpark. 

1844
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,800
You know, look, I was 7 when 
LeBron got drafted. 

1845
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,920
The Cavaliers have a lot of 
interest and when they went to 

1846
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,400
the Finals in O7, I can remember
people out in the streets when 

1847
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,520
they won the championship. 
That was unbelievable. 

1848
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,760
Brandon, make no mistake about 
if the Cleveland Browns ever get

1849
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,800
good, it will be the wildest 
scene, as wildest scene as 

1850
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,400
you've seen in football. 
I believe it. 

1851
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,120
I didn't. 
They do something years. 

1852
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,240
Didn't they do something? 
I think it was actually when 

1853
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,680
they beat The Jets on that 
Thursday night this year. 

1854
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,280
Didn't they have like beers that
they unlocked fridge? 

1855
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:55,080
Unlocked. 
Fridges. 

1856
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,120
Something like that, right? 
Unlocked fridges. 

1857
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,000
It was unbelievable. 
The Jets should have won that 

1858
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,280
game. 
No, Todd Bowles, you know. 

1859
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,200
John, John. 
Wait, is that the game where 

1860
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,840
Baker came in? 
Baker's debut. 

1861
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,920
It was, it was, it was the week 
two of the season, I believe. 

1862
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,440
That was Baker's debut, and then
it all linked downhill from 

1863
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:12,520
there. 
I thought so. 

1864
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,960
Well, listen, man, you've been 
generous with your time. 

1865
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,520
I'm really happy for you. 
I'm proud of you. 

1866
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,640
I think your messages are great.
I think your talent speaks for 

1867
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,440
itself. 
I think your commitment to your 

1868
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:26,880
your craft is, is undeniable and
I'm looking forward to seeing 

1869
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:28,800
where this takes you, man. 
I think it's it's going to be, 

1870
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:30,360
it's already been an amazing 
journey. 

1871
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,840
Enjoy the early stage of the 
fatherhood. 

1872
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,240
It goes fast. 
Dude. 

1873
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,520
You seem like you have a great 
work life balance and really 

1874
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,640
good to have you on the show. 
I appreciate it today, John. 

1875
01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:43,760
Well, Brandon, anytime I I 
respect your work, love your 

1876
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:48,880
work you you do a a phenomenal 
job and you've got a fan it with

1877
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,320
BT unleashed and and it's 
certainly listening to you on 

1878
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,200
the radio this week and anytime 
well love talking it up with 

1879
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,560
you. 
Can't wait to do it again. 

1880
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:57,800
Thank. 
You, you got it. 

1881
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,800
Enjoy the hoops, baby. 
I'll see you soon, dude. 

1882
01:28:00,440 --> 01:28:09,200
There he is all right so Jay Rod
oh man he is he is AI wouldn't 

1883
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,920
say a rising star he's past that
point he and you see how humble 

1884
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,600
he is that him too yeah get that
you see how humble he is he's 

1885
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,480
just a good guy I. 
Mean this is what I'll say it's 

1886
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,760
rare when you see interviews 
that really like sit with you, 

1887
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,600
like, you know, and really kind 
of give you a change your 

1888
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,920
perspective on things like that 
really touched me right there. 

1889
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,640
Obviously the stuff with his 
father's faith, but also just 

1890
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:37,680
like he's a he's a young man 
who's wise behind it beyond his 

1891
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,960
years. 
I think that's what's insane to 

1892
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,880
me is he's a you know, he's a 
young dude, but he carries such 

1893
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:48,000
wisdom when he speaks and such, 
you know, fortitude and I just I

1894
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,960
thought that was easily the best
interview we've had thus far on 

1895
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,480
this show. 
I thought they just keep 

1896
01:28:55,480 --> 01:28:58,000
getting. 
I thought that was incredible. 

1897
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,320
That's awesome, man. 
I love him. 

1898
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,400
I knew it was going to be good. 
And listen, it's, it's different

1899
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,880
than different. 
Nikki is good. 

1900
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,680
Nikki Lauderulo is going to join
me tomorrow. 

1901
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,160
That's going to be different 
than John. 

1902
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:11,400
Yeah, he does have a a sageness.
He's got a perspective like I 

1903
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,880
just, I had a very different 
style and a very different 

1904
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,920
delivery and I still do. 
I didn't have that. 

1905
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,560
I don't think I had that clarity
at the age of 30. 

1906
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,480
I was, you know what I mean? 
I just, I didn't have that. 

1907
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,680
I didn't have that clarity. 
He's, he's a really grounded 

1908
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,760
young man. 
And, and that's I'm, I'm just, 

1909
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,320
I'm a big fan there. 
I'm a big fan. 

1910
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,560
What's this from? 
What do we got? 

1911
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,360
Telly lot 77. 
What's up telly? 

1912
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,000
John Fanton, Kim Adams are 
quickly becoming one of the best

1913
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,600
duos in the business. 
I enjoyed their coverage of the 

1914
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,160
women's Big East tournament. 
UConn is an avalanche. 

1915
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:44,960
Yeah. 
He's got some wild calls, man. 

1916
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,240
Lol. 
Thank you. 

1917
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,480
Very UConn #13 very, very 
generous. 

1918
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:49,480
Dude. 
Thank you for weighing in with 

1919
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:51,000
that awesome stuff. 
Yeah. 

1920
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,200
I, you know, listen, what are 
the things about this show? 

1921
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,880
Listen, there's going to be days
during the season like, I don't 

1922
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,560
know, just throw out a name. 
Like, you know, I'll get I'm 

1923
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,040
sure she'll do it. 
I don't want to speak for her, 

1924
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,760
but like I'll get Susan Waldman 
on, maybe get like and ask her 

1925
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,600
like actual Yankee questions. 
You know, one of the things that

1926
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,280
I really enjoy about being able 
to do this, it's a free flowing 

1927
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,480
conversation and I've obviously 
got some notes. 

1928
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:14,760
So I got a couple things I know 
I want to tap into. 

1929
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,880
But to me, you know, the best 
conversations are the one where 

1930
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,800
you're just not married to a lot
of questions. 

1931
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,760
Like he says something I'm like,
that was interesting about his 

1932
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,680
dad or about his dad with 
alcoholism or how his dad passed

1933
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,160
away so suddenly or his 
fatherhood, like just down, 

1934
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:32,840
like, we're going to go with 
this man. 

1935
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,400
Yeah. 
Hopefully everybody enjoyed 

1936
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,240
that. 
That was good. 

1937
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,400
I, I, I think what really at 
least not to get too mad or 

1938
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,400
behind the scenes. 
I think just what really set 

1939
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,080
that one apart, you know, from 
the other ones is it, it really 

1940
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,400
felt like a deep dive into the 
man himself, you know? 

1941
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,360
Yeah, really got a new 
perspective on who he he he is 

1942
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:52,720
as a person. 
Amen. 

1943
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,240
No doubt. 
Just awesome that a boy. 

1944
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,440
Jay Ron. 
I love how. 

1945
01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:59,200
Fired up you are man at. 
Gerndog, try not to be so. 

1946
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:00,880
Fired up when Nikki comes on 
tomorrow. 

1947
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,360
Take it easy buddy. 
Gerndog nine O 1 fantas 

1948
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,320
personality is great. 
You can tell he's a genuinely 

1949
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,760
great guy. 
Wishing him the best. 

1950
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:13,960
I, I, I agree, you know, and 
listen, there's a lot of really 

1951
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,080
good people in our business, 
John, but there's also a lot of 

1952
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,000
assholes in our business. 
They just are, I mean, I'm not 

1953
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,400
going to start naming them, but 
trust me, there are a lot of 

1954
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:27,040
jerks in this business. 
And I get the sense that I, I 

1955
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,520
get the sense that, you know, 
he's, he's not going to change 

1956
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,000
much. 
Like, and he's going to only 

1957
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,040
climb higher and higher and 
higher and make more money and 

1958
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,960
become more successful and 
become the face of ultimately of

1959
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,160
a network. 
Maybe call the Super Bowl, NBA 

1960
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:43,520
Finals. 
Who knows what's in John's 

1961
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,800
future. 
I mean I'm not going to put a 

1962
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,200
limit on it, but I I feel like 
you know, his his he's going to 

1963
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:53,560
be rooted in that blue collar 
Ohio, you know, background that 

1964
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,720
his dad passed on. 
Just a good dude, man. 

1965
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:56,960
So I saw him at the biggies 
tortoise. 

1966
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,480
I'm like, dude, I got to get 
John. 

1967
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:01,000
He's like absolutely. 
And I thought that he I thought 

1968
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,440
that I had his number. 
He's like, you still got my 

1969
01:32:02,440 --> 01:32:04,080
number, right. 
So I opened up my phone. 

1970
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,440
I'm like, I guess I don't have 
it at all. 

1971
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,960
So I'm like, here, shoot me a 
number. 

1972
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,240
And I wasn't going to do it 
right away. 

1973
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:09,480
I'm like, I'll do it at some 
point. 

1974
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,920
Then I'm like, you know, why 
wouldn't I get him on, you know,

1975
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:13,320
and perfect time. 
Say John. 

1976
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,160
Yeah. 
I mean, honestly, we could have 

1977
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,520
talked more basketball, now that
you think about it. 

1978
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,840
Oh, definitely. 
You know, most definitely. 

1979
01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:23,120
But I also just. 
Yeah, just that was too good. 

1980
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:23,960
That was, too. 
Good. 

1981
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,640
Any other comments before we I 
got to go pack here? 

1982
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:27,320
Good. 
Let's see. 

1983
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,760
I mean, everyone's kind of. 
Let's see, I mean, you can tell 

1984
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,960
me how breaking this. 
Is all right and trade Jalen 

1985
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,200
Waddle to Broncos. 
Broncos get Waddle and Dolphins 

1986
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,640
fourth round pick. 
Fins get Broncos first round 

1987
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,320
pick third. 
Wow, they're all along with 

1988
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,920
their late 3rd and fourth round 
picks. 

1989
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,120
Hold on, keep this up there. 
Hold on. 

1990
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,160
Is this is this real? 
Is this real all right? 

1991
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,760
The So the Fins trade waddle 
and. 

1992
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:54,000
But I'm not surprised to. 
Denver Denver gets Waddle and 

1993
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,720
the fourth round pick, so they 
get that coming from Miami. 

1994
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,240
Miami gets from Denver a first 
round, their first round pick, 

1995
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:04,840
30th overall, along with their 
late 3rd and fourth round picks,

1996
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,800
30th in each round. 
That's a very interesting, 

1997
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,440
that's not like a little, you 
know, nickel and dime NFL trade 

1998
01:33:10,440 --> 01:33:12,480
right now. 
That's interesting #1 Jalen 

1999
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:17,000
Waddles good #2 you got first 
round capital #2 or #3 you got a

2000
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:18,640
third round pick and a fourth 
round pick. 

2001
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,680
Certainly 3rd is a very premium 
pick even though it's at the 

2002
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,840
back end of the third round. 
Wow, You have Waddell's numbers 

2003
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,760
from last year and yeah, just 
just just pop them up there. 

2004
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,800
Give me, what is it? 
What have you been around now? 

2005
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,240
I don't know 4. 
Years, whatever it's been 

2006
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,240
something like that. 
I'm, I'm throwing it out there, 

2007
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,280
you know, some quarterback 
issues to I'm, I'm not a huge 

2008
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,040
fan. 
Obviously Kyla Murray's there 

2009
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,320
now. 
I think Jalen Waddell's really, 

2010
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,560
really good. 
Last season he had 64 

2011
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,560
receptions, 910 yards, 6 
touchdowns. 

2012
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:48,080
How many? 
Games. 

2013
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:49,680
Did he play all the games? 
I thought he missed a little bit

2014
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,120
with the Amy or something. 
Played. 

2015
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,400
Thought he missed a little time.
How many games was ESPN annoying

2016
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:55,760
me? 
Oh I'm stuck. 

2017
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,440
Reason why dude. 
This is so annoying. 

2018
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:03,920
OK, it's not it it. 
Doesn't show games played for 

2019
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,520
some reason at the top of the 
let me. 

2020
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,040
Come on, we we we got to get J 
Rod a little bit better on these

2021
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,560
stats here. 
I notice every time he's looking

2022
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,680
at they need to, they need they.
Need to design a website where 

2023
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:16,440
it goes full stats game. 
Played percentage boom. 

2024
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:21,240
Not this fucking sorry, not this
BS where I'm scrolling through 9

2025
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,840
million different things 
sweating going oh man was BT 

2026
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,000
about was BT? 
About to get on me. 

2027
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,120
Hey, have I really gotten on? 
You. 

2028
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,800
I have a guy with you I'm 
messing with. 

2029
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,280
You so but dude, here's what you
got to do He played 15 games he 

2030
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,040
played 15 so he. 
Missed 2 All right, so we. 

2031
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,080
Had 60 something catches. 
Not so if he would have played. 

2032
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,400
17 It would have been over 1000.
Yards, 6 touchdowns. 

2033
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,320
I'm I'm. 
I'm a little hesitant to ask, 

2034
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:49,920
what did he do the year before? 
Oh man, no, we're going back. 

2035
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,480
I got you. 
As you're looking this up, what 

2036
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,080
is your process to look up a 
stat? 

2037
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,360
Cuz I just. 
If I want to look it up, I would

2038
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,760
just type in. 
I'd go to Google Jalen Waddle 

2039
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:00,120
stats. 
That's what I do. 

2040
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,680
I did Jalen waddle the hell 
popped up stats and then but 

2041
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,480
then I go into ESPN itself like 
the app. 

2042
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,720
All right, this is a little 
easier now. 

2043
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,120
I got a better kind of lineup. 
What do you want? 

2044
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,000
Football Reference. 
Yeah, Football Reference. 

2045
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,440
Let's see. 
Last season, he had 58 

2046
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:21,200
receptions. 
He had 744 yards, 2 touchdowns. 

2047
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,360
Was his really He played 15 
games. 

2048
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,200
What was his really big year? 
He had over 90 catches 1. 

2049
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:28,280
Year what? 
What year was that? 

2050
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,320
Let me. 
Go back to 23. 

2051
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,120
Yeah, 23. 
He had 104. 

2052
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,080
Yeah, I thought so. 
All right, it's a good move 

2053
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,200
there. 
That's a good move that J Rod 

2054
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:39,360
used Pro Football. 
Reference. 

2055
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,320
Yeah, That's from Avery Summit. 
Everybody's giving you advice. 

2056
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,320
Oh, my God, that's funny. 
Yeah. 

2057
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,840
Listen, thank you, boys. 
I got Rod. 

2058
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:51,120
Yeah, J Rod used that. 
BT and fans of both guys. 

2059
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,360
You want to grab a beer with to 
watch some sports with that. 

2060
01:35:53,440 --> 01:35:55,160
That's what makes both of you 
guys so special. 

2061
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,800
That's a great compliment. 
You know, that's funny. 

2062
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,160
We would always talk about that.
Like when I remember when I was 

2063
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:05,400
at ESPN back in the days of 
obviously 2003 was when I 

2064
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,000
started there, radio did some TV
too. 

2065
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,920
But I'm talking about the radio 
component where, you know, a lot

2066
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,760
of the things that they would 
preach about radio I didn't 

2067
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,120
necessarily agree with because 
it was people, no disrespect, 

2068
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,960
but people coming in from 
Bristol trying to tell. 

2069
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,360
And we talked about this when I 
had Greca on people try to come 

2070
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,160
in from Connecticut from a 
national point of view, and they

2071
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:23,840
were very good nationally at 
their job. 

2072
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,240
But we're like, it doesn't fly 
in New York, man. 

2073
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,040
You know, it's got to it's got 
to have energy, it's got to 

2074
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,320
bite. 
It's got to have flavor. 

2075
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,040
It's got to be cold. 
It's got to be passion. 

2076
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,120
We got to get after it, you 
know, and they're with the 

2077
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,240
teases coming up next. 
I'll tell you why. 

2078
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,560
Like do some of those things I 
didn't fundamentally agree with,

2079
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,960
even though they were good 
people and they were good at 

2080
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,080
their job. 
But like I, I remember one thing

2081
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,000
that they did say, and this 
always resonated with guys. 

2082
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,800
At the end of the day, when you 
doing a show, you want to come 

2083
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,560
across as somebody that's in 
their car. 

2084
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,640
This is obviously, you know, in 
the car, you know, it's a little

2085
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,120
different now. 
You just want to be one of those

2086
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,520
people where people listen and 
saying, I want to have a beer 

2087
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,280
with that dude. 
I want to sit back and watch a 

2088
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,400
game with that guy, shoot the 
shit, play around the golf with 

2089
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,000
that guy, have a beer, you know,
have a little pizza and a pizza,

2090
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,440
have a dinner, sit down, have 
dinner with wings, whatever, 

2091
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,600
watch a game. 
So I've always kind of #1 I 

2092
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,520
think I've just, I've just 
always been that person. 

2093
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,480
Like, I've just always enjoyed 
doing that stuff. 

2094
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,000
And John seems like the same 
kind of guy. 

2095
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,440
So that to me, that's a great 
compliment. 

2096
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:21,560
Thank you very much. 
Thank you very much. 

2097
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,520
How about his musical taste? 
Wait. 

2098
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,720
Yeah. 
I, I I I can't believe it had, 

2099
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,520
like, lapsed in my mind. 
It was awesome. 

2100
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,600
One you got Billy Joel game, 
you're breaking out albums. 

2101
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,400
I've never. 
Even conceived of Billy's my 

2102
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,880
favorite. 
Of all time, he's my favorite 

2103
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,360
artist of all time. 
Billy Joel. 

2104
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,000
Come on. 
When I don't do a lot of karaoke

2105
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,280
when I do, I mean, it's been a 
little bit of minute. 

2106
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,080
Big Shot, you know, Big Shot is 
my song. 

2107
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,760
You know, that's, you know, with
your fine Paul. 

2108
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,600
Kevin, you Chloe woes. 
Oh, man. 

2109
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:53,160
Yeah. 
Give it that mic. 

2110
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:59,080
He had serious game. 
Yeah, I mean, definitely like 

2111
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,440
interesting. 
Like, you know, all his taste 

2112
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:04,520
was very much like for a dude 
who's closer to, you know, my 

2113
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:08,400
age for sure, you know, he's 
got, he's got a very, a very 

2114
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,200
refined. 
Taste so to. 

2115
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,080
Speak, he said he got it from 
his pops. 

2116
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,280
Hold on. 
I'm trying to pop up something 

2117
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:14,880
for me here where is my music? 
Hold on. 

2118
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,320
Also if. 
He if he's still, if he's still 

2119
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,440
listening, or if he checks out, 
the end. 

2120
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:21,680
Yeah, he's got to see Earth, 
Wind and Fire. 

2121
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,360
Best concert I've ever seen. 
Where did you when? 

2122
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,640
Where'd you see them? 
My mom, my friend, and my 

2123
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,600
brother and I. 
We saw him in Bridgeport, CT. 

2124
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,840
Two years ago in the summer, it 
was incredible. 

2125
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,720
It was really sick. 
It was sick. 

2126
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,440
I think their lead singers 
passed on. 

2127
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,680
But I was going to say, every 
other member of the band is 

2128
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,360
still there, still rocking. 
It was just sick. 

2129
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,160
It was such a good time. 
I love it, dude. 

2130
01:38:47,480 --> 01:38:49,680
All right, so look. 
So now I don't know why it took 

2131
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,400
so freaking long to figure. 
This out, but I've got I'll give

2132
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,080
you guys a little treat. 
I can't play the music with 

2133
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,320
talking like copyright stuff, so
I can't I've got I'm looking at 

2134
01:38:58,320 --> 01:38:59,880
my phone. 
I got my music here. 

2135
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:03,040
I'm going to give you I'll give 
you the 1st 15. 

2136
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,760
I want you to count. 
All right, It's in alphabetical 

2137
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,400
order. 
I'm going to give you the 1st 15

2138
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,080
groups or individual artists in 
my in my phone, by the way, 

2139
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,280
check that out. 
You got to love that. 

2140
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,720
I know I showed you the ready 
ACDC. 

2141
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,240
When I say it, just give me the 
number ACDC one Aerosmith 2. 

2142
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,480
Bad Company 3. 
Beastie Boys 4. 

2143
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,200
Billy Joel 5. 
Bon Jovi 6. 

2144
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:29,200
Boss Skaggs 7. 
He said that Bruce 8 Bryan Adams

2145
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:33,520
9. 
Busta Rhymes 10 Cat Stevens 11, 

2146
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,000
The The Charlie Daniels Band. 
Haven't heard of them, I'll 

2147
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:37,960
check them. 
Out all right. 

2148
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,960
County Crows. 
Yep. 13 Creed. 

2149
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,840
Cypress Hill. 
Oh my gosh. 

2150
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,160
Hits from the. 
Bong Yeah, yeah. 

2151
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:49,280
Yep. 
Doctor Dre. 

2152
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,920
And then I got a little Digital 
Underground, do you know? 

2153
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,920
Anything about Yeah, that's pop,
right? 

2154
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:55,320
That's Pop. 
The second package. 

2155
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:56,160
Yeah. 
Yep, Yep, Yep. 

2156
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,280
That was some. 
We used to bump that in college,

2157
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,240
man, That was good, dude. 
I mean you. 

2158
01:40:00,440 --> 01:40:01,680
You got some real. 
Heaters, right? 

2159
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,720
And not just the Humpty dance, 
which is like the the. 

2160
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,520
Mainstream. 
Yeah, I remember that track 

2161
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,120
Well, no. 
Definitely there were some beats

2162
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,840
on the back end. 
I knew every single word. 

2163
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,800
Oh my God, that was that was a 
great album. 

2164
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,040
The Digital Underground, my God,
you're something interesting for

2165
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:16,800
me. 
For Selman, maybe this is like a

2166
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,240
little psychoanalysis. 
He might be right, though. 

2167
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:22,360
He's an an old soul, which is 
increasingly rare this these 

2168
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,840
days, which is why J Rod 
appreciates him so much. 

2169
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,480
He's not used to seeing one. 
You're probably right. 

2170
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,760
Like I think this is something 
I've I've certainly grown to 

2171
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:37,160
learn since becoming a podcast 
producer is that I think a lot 

2172
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,120
of the people I do really 
respect aren't these kind of 

2173
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:44,040
older soul kind of dudes who 
come at it from, you know, a 

2174
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,920
blunt, maybe just because of my 
father kind of deal, like a 

2175
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,600
blood blue collar perspective 
sort of deal. 

2176
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,680
I just like, I think, you know, 
obviously growing up as a young 

2177
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,640
dude, like you're kind of you're
molding yourself, but you're in 

2178
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,520
a lot of different things. 
But now that like my career has 

2179
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,680
been me interacting with a lot 
of these former athletes, guys 

2180
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,400
like this dudes in the sports 
industry, like, yeah, it has 

2181
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:09,920
really shown me a kind of kind 
of man that I do really enjoy 

2182
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,200
listening to speak, listening to
interviews from and just like 

2183
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,680
really respect, like nice dude. 
Yeah, Like I, I feel like, like,

2184
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,000
yeah, like Fanta, I mean, all 
these. 

2185
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,040
Guys, you get. 
Pitino K Greco like I love these

2186
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,840
just raw dudes. 
What about me? 

2187
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,680
I mean, come on you that, but 
that's blanket. 

2188
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,360
That's obvious. 
I'm working like, that's 

2189
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,040
obvious. 
That's awesome, yeah. 

2190
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:33,680
I mean to me, there's no other 
way to be. 

2191
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,760
I mean to me, and it's a tough. 
Balance, but to be like you can 

2192
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,080
be blunt and you can be 
aggressive and you can be 

2193
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,360
assertive and you can take no 
prisoners and you can be 

2194
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,240
unapologetic, but you could also
show respect. 

2195
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,480
Like it's not hard to do all 
those things which, which, which

2196
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:50,960
I think that I do, I'm not 
saying I'm perfect by any 

2197
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,680
stretch, but I always really do 
try to show respect. 

2198
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:58,360
And that to me is definitely an 
older, an older generation 

2199
01:41:58,480 --> 01:41:59,960
rollback. 
And I'm not saying that the 

2200
01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:01,280
young generation doesn't show 
respect. 

2201
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:05,720
I don't mean that at all, but I,
I just think that there there's 

2202
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:09,320
such a freedom by a lot of 
people. 

2203
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,720
Generally those who are younger.
I, I hate to paint with such a 

2204
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:17,720
broad brush, but generally 
because the younger generation 

2205
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,160
can can say whatever they want 
and for the most part, they're 

2206
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,680
not getting their fucking face 
beat in by somebody's fist. 

2207
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,480
Whereas if you would have said 
something like that back in 

2208
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:28,560
there, like if some of the 
things that I wasn't, I mean, I 

2209
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,360
was no, I was not. 
I'm not saying I was Johnny 

2210
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:32,840
tough guy at all. 
I had a couple scraps. 

2211
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:34,880
I probably lost one more than I 
won. 

2212
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,360
Maybe. 
I mean, you know, I was 

2213
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,360
basically a tomato can't fit, 
you know, and the last real one 

2214
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,800
that I had was in college. 
But you know, and and I won that

2215
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,160
one. 
Thank you against a football 

2216
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,400
player. 
But but as a long time ago, but 

2217
01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:49,720
I I knew that if I popped off 
and I said the wrong thing to 

2218
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,680
somebody in my neighborhood, I 
was I was getting drilled. 

2219
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,200
I'll tell you. 
I'll actually tell you that this

2220
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:58,720
was this true? 
Oh no, they tweet and how they. 

2221
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,720
Talk to people, there's no 
repercussions. 

2222
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:01,960
It's all faceless. 
It's all. 

2223
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,480
Anonymous and let me Peck away 
and let me. 

2224
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,720
That's why I don't get involved 
and I never have and I never 

2225
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,040
will. 
I don't get involved in like 

2226
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,440
radio wars and radio beeps and 
talking shit online. 

2227
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:17,480
I don't do that. 
But I remember, remember I told 

2228
01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:20,440
you we had the backyard hoop in 
my in my backyard, like the 

2229
01:43:20,440 --> 01:43:22,680
little death by little concrete 
slab. 

2230
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,080
You couldn't take jump shots. 
You had a dunk. 

2231
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,600
It was all God anyway, we're 
playing back there one day and 

2232
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:34,720
my best friend Brian at at this 
point was tough like karate and 

2233
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,680
and play football, but not a 
basketball player, right, and 

2234
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,240
not even a good baseball player,
not a like just not a good ball 

2235
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:44,720
player, but a good athlete. 
So anyway, his brother, right, 

2236
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,840
who I knew because my dad 
coached him, they, they were 

2237
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,560
like, there's like 7 of them big
Irish family, tough, right? 

2238
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,600
I was there every day. 
I saw this guy, his name is Pat,

2239
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,160
saw him every day. 
This is my best friend's older 

2240
01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,840
brother who I play baseball 
with. 

2241
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:03,320
OK. 
And I, I, I guess I, I actually 

2242
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,920
do remember saying this. 
I was in probably the 5th grade 

2243
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,480
and his girlfriend, I was 
walking on the other side of the

2244
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:13,880
street and we were, you know, 
we're young, not even, I hadn't 

2245
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,480
even hit puberty yet. 
But like, you know, I'm like, I 

2246
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:18,480
said something like, yeah, 
crass. 

2247
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:20,480
I think I said something like 
nice ass. 

2248
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,160
It's just stupid. 
I did. 

2249
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,760
That's exactly what I yelled at.
I'm like, hey, nice ass, right? 

2250
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:26,600
And then we went back and we 
were playing. 

2251
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:27,840
I thought I was cool and 
everything. 

2252
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,120
And like 30 minutes later, Pat, 
who really never was in my 

2253
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:32,560
backyard, he wasn't a basketball
player. 

2254
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,160
He was a football player and a 
fighter and a little baseball. 

2255
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,800
Pat was tough as nails. 
And I, I see him walking into my

2256
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,520
backyard, I'm like, hey, what's 
going on, Pat? 

2257
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,760
You know, he didn't even say 
hello. 

2258
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,240
He wound up and he clocked me 
right in the fucking nose as 

2259
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,360
hard as he could and he walked 
out of my yard. 

2260
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,280
That's crazy. 
Yep, at 10:10. 

2261
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:57,040
No, I was in the 5th grade. 
So I was, I was 11, he was. 12 

2262
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,480
he was, he was definitely a year
older and he was a tough kid 

2263
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,280
And, and I, I was, I did not go 
down. 

2264
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:03,520
Somehow. 
I don't know how it didn't go 

2265
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:04,360
down. 
There we go. 

2266
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,200
But I didn't throw a punch back.
I was actually scared. 

2267
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:11,440
Like it was like literally my 
best friend by a mile. 

2268
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,040
And I was at their house all the
time. 

2269
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,200
I think that's why I was so 
stunned because I'm like, even 

2270
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:18,640
though he was never in my 
backyard, I'm like, hey, what's 

2271
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,440
going Pat? 
And it wasn't like, hey, what's 

2272
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:23,280
up? 
It was just walk straight to me 

2273
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,520
and I should have probably 
detected that he would get a 

2274
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:29,040
different look in his eyes. 
Bang right right here, dude, 

2275
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,560
right in the face. 
His brother didn't help me out 

2276
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,640
either. 
His brother knows his brother 

2277
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,840
was gay to him too. 
Everybody was kind of scared of 

2278
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,600
him and he just made AU turn. 
He walked out of my didn't care 

2279
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,240
if my mom was home, my dad was 
home, anybody was out. 

2280
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,600
So didn't care. 
Came in message delivered. 

2281
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,400
Don't ever say that I'm in the 
5th grade. 

2282
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,240
Don't ever say that to my 
girlfriend friend again. 

2283
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,440
So when that happens to you, you
learn. 

2284
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,440
You learn and that's why you 
don't feel like you've got the 

2285
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:59,800
latitude and the license to just
anonymously diss people and say 

2286
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,280
whatever you want. 
And, and I do, I do think again,

2287
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,200
I know it's a broad brush, but I
do think that that is a virtue 

2288
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:11,040
and a characteristic of the 
older generation that is kind of

2289
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,760
so I'm still, I'm still waiting 
on the first dude to punch me in

2290
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,480
the face and, and teach me not 
to. 

2291
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:20,400
Talk shit. 
It was different back then. 

2292
01:46:20,440 --> 01:46:22,800
It was different. 
We got super. 

2293
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,360
Game and chill bro 6643 So how 
does. 

2294
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:30,720
That Jalen Waddle trade affect 
the AFC East and now Miami feels

2295
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,520
like they are in tear down mode 
too. 

2296
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,240
How do you feel about that crazy
free agency? 

2297
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:39,160
So it it has been pretty crazy 
and the Super, super gay man 

2298
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,240
chill Bros. 
Appreciate that and good job 

2299
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:43,640
reading that handle 6640, you 
keep it up a little bit for the 

2300
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,800
Super chat, give a little bit of
love there with the handle. 

2301
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,000
Appreciate. 
Yeah, when we get the Super 

2302
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,120
chats, keep them up a little bit
more. 

2303
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:53,720
Yeah, I mean, it's listen, I I 
think it's, you know, I think 

2304
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,480
it's, it's interesting. 
And in terms of the AFC East, 

2305
01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:00,640
it's it's the it's the Bills and
the Patriots and everybody else.

2306
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:03,240
I mean, so I don't think it 
changes energy. 

2307
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,160
I don't know that Miami 
stripping down. 

2308
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:06,880
I mean, they got to get their 
finances straight. 

2309
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,480
Obviously 2 is gone. 
You have a new quarterback. 

2310
01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:11,720
I think he's going to play 
pretty well, you know. 

2311
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,160
But you know, they're they're 
they're not going to go up to 

2312
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:15,320
up. 
They're not the kind of team 

2313
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:19,520
that, in my opinion, that's 
going to go up to Buffalo in 

2314
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,440
December or the playoff game, 
like if they're a wild card or 

2315
01:47:22,440 --> 01:47:26,560
go up to Gillette, Foxboro beat 
Drake, may beat Vrabel, beat 

2316
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,360
that running attack. 
It's just that they're not built

2317
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:30,400
for that yet. 
And The Jets are nowhere near 

2318
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,720
that either. 
I think that, you know, I, I 

2319
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,120
think there's a clear pecking 
order of supremacy in the AF. 

2320
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:37,320
CS has no. 
Doubt about that. 

2321
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,760
I I, I think that there's a 
chance that The Jets could be 

2322
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,320
slightly better than Miami 
within all line and, you know, 

2323
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:46,920
better quarterback play with 
Gino. 

2324
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,800
Certainly not that he's a star, 
but he's better than what 

2325
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,000
they've had. 
You know, and you know, maybe 

2326
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,000
you draft the receiver at 16. 
You brought in a lot of 

2327
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,080
defenders, which they needed to 
you probably you're definitely 

2328
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:58,520
going edge at #2 whether it's 
Reese from Ohio State, whether 

2329
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,280
it's a kid from Texas Tech, I 
think it's going to be more 

2330
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,680
Reese could be styles. 
They could trade down. 

2331
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,560
You can take Caleb down to the 
the safety. 

2332
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,320
I can't wait for the draft talk.
Like I've kind of suspended that

2333
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,600
a little bit, but and not just 
for The Jets and the giants. 

2334
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,760
Let let me address this here. 
Some of you have said, Hey, I 

2335
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,520
love what you do. 
You know, it's, it's a little 

2336
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,560
local heavy. 
It's it's always going to slant 

2337
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:20,160
a little bit more local. 
But I promise you guys like NFL 

2338
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:24,320
draft, NFL season, NBA playoffs.
It's going to have much more of 

2339
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,200
a national feel. 
It's going to be a lot more for 

2340
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,600
everybody. 
Just understand that and know 

2341
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:32,960
that I'm not trying to replicate
exactly what I did on WFAN. 

2342
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,040
I'm evolving and I'm changing. 
And I did national stuff for 10 

2343
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,560
years with Tiki and I, I really 
enjoyed it. 

2344
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,920
And I did drive time in San 
Francisco. 

2345
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,920
I was at a different market. 
I worked in Detroit, you know, I

2346
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,080
worked in Pennsylvania. 
So I'm, I'm going to, I'm going 

2347
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,760
to bring other stuff to you. 
It's not just going to be me 

2348
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,880
shove and judge and Soto and 
Schlittler and McClain down your

2349
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,120
throat. 
And, you know, Jackson Thornton 

2350
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,880
and Gino, we're going to do more
and more as we, as we build this

2351
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:58,760
thing out. 
You know what I'm saying? 

2352
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:00,760
Get ready for some, get ready 
for some cricket. 

2353
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,480
Yeah, get ready for some some 
world cricket talk. 

2354
01:49:04,440 --> 01:49:06,640
I don't know about that. 
Have you ever played? 

2355
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,600
I got a couple of a couple of 
quick. 

2356
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,640
Ones for you talking about 
sports off the off the just give

2357
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:13,920
me a quick yes or no. 
Have you ever played tennis? 

2358
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:15,640
Yeah. 
Do you like it? 

2359
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,360
Yes. 
OK me too. 

2360
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,400
I ever play racquetball? 
No. 

2361
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,600
Oh, I got a funny I'm going to 
tell you a funny racquetball 

2362
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,640
story in a second Racquetball 
story. 

2363
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:31,520
Las Vegas. 
OK have you ever played ping 

2364
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:32,840
pong? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2365
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:35,840
I mean, I don't know, We we 
started playing ping pong 

2366
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,640
competitively in our. 
Home like we love it. 

2367
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,040
We got a net that we set up on 
the dining room table. 

2368
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,000
It's great. 
I've had like a couple games 

2369
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,120
over the past year where I've 
tried to get into it a little. 

2370
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,640
More, it's great. 
You know what I can't do? 

2371
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,680
I admit. 
Like of course I can serve if 

2372
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:50,520
I'm serving. 
Easy. 

2373
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,640
I'm a very good volleyer, but I 
don't have spin on the serve 

2374
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,400
like I can't. 
Yeah, it's tough and keep it in,

2375
01:49:56,440 --> 01:49:59,440
you know, if I could get that 
down, when I get that down, I'm 

2376
01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:01,040
going to be tough to beat. 
All right, the racquetball 

2377
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:05,560
story, so I remember we used to 
I'm living in Vegas. 

2378
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,520
This is early, you know, again, 
2000 whatever, just starting out

2379
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,440
and I I live with a bunch of 
dudes and we had we rented a 

2380
01:50:11,440 --> 01:50:16,720
house in Henderson, NV and I'm 
sorry, this before we went into 

2381
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,920
the house I was at AI was in an 
apartment like I I got the job 

2382
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,160
and there was a guy Steve 
Cofield, who, if anybody knows 

2383
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:27,040
Steve, he's he's a big wig out 
in in Las Vegas doing radio UNLV

2384
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,320
stuff, Raider stuff. 
Great guy, awesome dude. 

2385
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:31,320
Steve's got I got to get Steve 
on the show. 

2386
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,800
Steve's got some stories from 
Vegas that I mean, I have to 

2387
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:36,880
tell him a couple things he 
can't tell, but there are some 

2388
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,200
things he could tell. 
We were at we went nuts 

2389
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,240
together. 
All right, so before we went 

2390
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,800
into the moved into the house 
and basically turned it into 

2391
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,000
entourage without the money. 
That's how I might describe it. 

2392
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:51,040
We were entourage, but we were 
piss poor, he and I, he he had 

2393
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,880
an extra bedroom and because I 
got the job and he was higher up

2394
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,840
at the network, like I was just 
starting out, He's like, dude, 

2395
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,560
just, you know, my boss is like,
hey, there's a Jersey guy, you 

2396
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:01,520
might connect him and went to 
Rutgers and we know you're from 

2397
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,280
New York. 
So anyway, I started living with

2398
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,000
him and we had a blast, right? 
And we will play racquetball. 

2399
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,600
So we were in like when you live
in like Arizona or Nevada or out

2400
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,560
there, dude, you got the 
community pool that you got the 

2401
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,960
racquetball, you got the workout
room, you got the palm trees. 

2402
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,560
It's just phenomenal little BBQ.
So I'm living like, I'm living 

2403
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,360
like Melrose Place lifestyle. 
I mean, I'm having a good time, 

2404
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:25,080
man. 
And me and Steve every and he 

2405
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:30,640
was good every day we would play
racquetball, death matches, I 

2406
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,280
mean death matches. 
And to the point where not only 

2407
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,760
did you just talk shit when 
somebody was vulnerable, like 

2408
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,080
maybe like if they're up on the 
wall and you're coming in, you 

2409
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,600
basically would take your 
fucking eye out like you would 

2410
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,800
just, you would smash it. 
And we were young, like we were 

2411
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,480
aggressive. 
And I remember we kept playing 

2412
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:54,640
and I think we played best of 
three and it was the third game.

2413
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,480
I won the first, he won the 2nd.
And now it's like point match, 

2414
01:51:57,480 --> 01:51:59,760
point match, point match, point,
match, point match. 

2415
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:04,360
And we just kept going. 
I remember diving for it and I, 

2416
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,880
I flicked it, but and I saved it
from hitting it twice. 

2417
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,720
I died full extension parallel 
to the ground. 

2418
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:14,440
But now I'm facing the wall and 
he just smashes at me and I 

2419
01:52:14,440 --> 01:52:17,120
lose, right. 
I'd say it was a good friend of 

2420
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:18,760
mine. 
I really great guy, man. 

2421
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,480
I lived with him and I hung out 
with him every day. 

2422
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,600
I got so pissed I didn't say 
anything. 

2423
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,920
I walk. 
It was a it was a glass. 

2424
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:28,760
So imagine we're playing 
racquetball and you have to 

2425
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,840
enter through a glass door and 
the entire, so if you, if 

2426
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,800
anybody who plays racquetball, 
generally that whole wall is 

2427
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,640
glass, you can kind of see 
people playing. 

2428
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,440
You know what I mean? 
Can you get that visual? 

2429
01:52:40,440 --> 01:52:41,640
Yeah, Yeah, of course, of 
course. 

2430
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,440
So I'm. 
So I'm fucking heated and I walk

2431
01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:46,480
out. 
And. 

2432
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:49,040
I, I didn't mean to do this and 
I. 

2433
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,120
Like I slammed the. 
Door open, right? 

2434
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:56,560
And as the door opened, this is 
all glass. 

2435
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:00,080
Keep in mind, it cracks the 
hinge cracks. 

2436
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:05,440
Whatever the hell happened, the 
entire wall of the wall from, 

2437
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,640
yes, from ceiling to floor falls
on me. 

2438
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,960
Right on me. 
Yeah, Yep. 

2439
01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:17,120
Falls on me. 
And I've got glass all over me. 

2440
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,960
What an idiot. 
And I go and he, he, he looks at

2441
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,320
me and I go, dude, you got to 
take me to the hospital. 

2442
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:25,840
He's like, all right, let's go, 
let's, let's, let's go. 

2443
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,560
And I remember I probably 
shouldn't tell this bar, but 

2444
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,520
whatever bit I remember there 
was like a camera and I'm like, 

2445
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:34,280
oh shit, I'm going to get in 
trouble because I didn't, I 

2446
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:37,120
didn't mean to break it. 
So I remember like this is like 

2447
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:39,400
my Brooklyn mind like trying to 
do limitations. 

2448
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,320
You're good. 
I know this is like my Brooklyn 

2449
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,080
mind trying to cover my tracks. 
I take the. 

2450
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:44,520
Towel that I would wipe my head 
off with. 

2451
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,520
And I just, I remember placing 
it over the camera and walking 

2452
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,520
out to go to the hospital. 
I wasn't really sick, but I had 

2453
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,960
to get some stitches in my arm. 
I had to get some glass out, 

2454
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:54,400
whatever. 
Actually, not in my eyes. 

2455
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,040
I'm like, imagine like 
committing a crime, which it 

2456
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,880
wasn't a crime, it was just an 
act of idiocy and immaturity. 30

2457
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,640
and I would never do that again.
It was just 25, four years old 

2458
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,440
and a raving lunatic who hated 
losing. 

2459
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,360
Imagine at the age of of at that
age, like doing something a 

2460
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,240
crime, right, because it wasn't 
cheap. 

2461
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,440
Like if they actually found out 
that would have been thousands 

2462
01:54:14,440 --> 01:54:17,080
of it was thick glass, thousands
upon thousands. 

2463
01:54:17,480 --> 01:54:22,160
I was making $3000. 
I was pissed poor and then 

2464
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,000
committing a crime again quote 
and putting a towel over the 

2465
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,720
camera and thinking that that's 
going to prevent you from 

2466
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,920
coming. 
And I remember Jared, I remember

2467
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:32,880
because it was this. 
It really was like Melrose 

2468
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,600
Place. 
It was like this gorgeous again,

2469
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,960
palm trees, pool, Jacuzzi, a 
clubhouse, the whole spiel. 

2470
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:43,600
And I, I like every time the 
bell would ring, I'm like, is 

2471
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,760
that the cops? 
I thought that they were going 

2472
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,000
to find out that I broke the 
window the the wall by accident.

2473
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:52,120
Too funny. 
Oh my gosh, I'm scared shitless.

2474
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:55,720
And then we're like we. 
Actually, as we were looking for

2475
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,400
the. 
House because we then had two 

2476
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,360
other guys that we hung out at 
the station with all the time 

2477
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,200
that we knew we wanted to find a
bigger house with a backyard, 

2478
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,680
which we did. 
That kind of accelerated the 

2479
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:05,760
move. 
We're like, let's get out of 

2480
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,680
here, man. 
Let's let's find the home and 

2481
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,440
let's get out of here. 
Let's get out of the complex, 

2482
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,880
dude. 
Oh, man, yeah, that was wild. 

2483
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,640
Living in Las Vegas was 
absolutely crazy. 

2484
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,720
So at the time you. 
Lived with people who you were 

2485
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:21,360
also doing radio with, yes. 
Yes, yes, that's interesting 

2486
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,640
because that's like that almost 
ties into like the content 

2487
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,560
creators of today. 
We're like, you'll be in like a 

2488
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,400
YouTube video house with the 
people you're making like 

2489
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,400
YouTube vids with and stuff like
that. 

2490
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,320
Dude thank God there was no they
got there was no YouTube or 

2491
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:36,320
cameras back then. 
I. 

2492
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,480
Mean, it's funny. 
I remember because, you know, 

2493
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,360
talking about Billy Joel myself,
John Fanta, I may have told the 

2494
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,040
story. 
So this one will be a short 

2495
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,280
story short, I promise. 
Like this particular night, I 

2496
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,080
just didn't want to go out. 
Like we're going out every 

2497
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,120
night. 
I'm like, I'm exhausted and I 

2498
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,960
had I had a girlfriend at the 
time, so I had the downstairs 

2499
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,680
bedroom and those because it had
like a shower and privacy for 

2500
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:57,720
her. 
And those three guys had their 

2501
01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,800
bedrooms upstairs, right. 
So I don't know, maybe we went 

2502
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,200
to the movies, whatever we heard
I did. 

2503
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:05,240
And I wake up the next morning 
and I just see on the on the 

2504
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:06,880
grease board. 
You missed an epic night. 

2505
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:11,760
Like because like we'd write 
stuff about Joel at the casino. 

2506
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,720
New York, NY, right? 
It's on the strip. 

2507
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,160
New York, NY is right near the 
the Excalibur. 

2508
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,680
It's near it's across the street
from The MGM Grand. 

2509
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:23,720
If you guys know Vegas, you can 
you can see what I'm saying 

2510
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:25,840
here. 
It's near the Luxor right? 

2511
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:29,840
The Pyramid 1. 
New York, NY just got the big 

2512
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,360
roller coaster. 
They're like. 

2513
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:35,360
Billy Joel showed up. 
At New York, NY Casino and 

2514
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:39,400
jumped on a piano and I was not 
there the one night I didn't go 

2515
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,360
out. 
I'm tired, guys. 

2516
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,600
I'm tired. 
I missed Billy Joel. 

2517
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,240
That's just hammering out the 
piano. 

2518
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,400
Yeah. 
Like that's like just your luck.

2519
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,760
Like that's just the kind of 
stuff that happens, like. 

2520
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,720
You skip out on a night and then
Oh my God. 

2521
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,760
And then Billy Joel sits out of 
piano. 

2522
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:56,160
Yep. 
And he's my favorite all time. 

2523
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:57,400
I mean, I've seen. 
Him many times I saw. 

2524
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,280
I saw his final play at Shay 
when? 

2525
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,920
When Tony Bennett came out, I 
saw Oh my God. 

2526
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:04,000
I mean, I've seen him at the 
garden. 

2527
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,080
I mean, I've seen him. 
I actually saw Billy. 

2528
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,400
I wasn't a big Elton John fan 
growing up. 

2529
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,840
I just, I don't know, I just 
wasn't a big fan, but Elton 

2530
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,520
John's. 
Amazing and I. 

2531
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:19,200
Saw Elton John and at the time I
saw him in 1996 at the old 

2532
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:22,400
Meadowlands, it was John and 
Billy Joy. 

2533
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:26,280
I have AI have a T-shirt. 
I think I may have sold it. 

2534
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:27,840
I'll try to pull up. 
A picture of it. 

2535
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,800
I have a T-shirt from that tour 
or I had for a while. 

2536
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,760
It got a little small on me. 
Where'd you get that? 

2537
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,000
Like some vintage? 
Yeah. 

2538
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:37,080
Yeah. 
Online. 

2539
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:40,320
Like eBay? 
But it was cool, and it was from

2540
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,480
and it was. 
One of the concerts they did in 

2541
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,000
Syracuse. 
Hold on, I found OH up in 

2542
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,320
Syracuse. 
OK at the carrier. 

2543
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,560
Oh, look at this Elton and 
Belly. 

2544
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,240
Face to face. 
That's awesome. 

2545
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,120
Now what year is that from 
about? 

2546
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:55,880
This one was 2000. 2 so actually
different tour if yours was 96. 

2547
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,720
Later and how they did multiple 
times together though I guess 

2548
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,120
they did. 
I remember, you know Billy. 

2549
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:03,640
Playing some of Elton's stuff 
and Elton. 

2550
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,040
Playing a couple of Billy saw it
was it was great. 

2551
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,080
It was, it was it was a really 
good concert. 

2552
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:10,160
Yeah, yeah. 
But I missed him. 

2553
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:12,400
I miss him at the casino that 
night. 

2554
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,600
All right, let me get another, 
maybe another tweet here or 

2555
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,520
another read here. 
Anything else that pops out 

2556
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,560
before we get rolling here? 
Yeah, I'd definitely say this 

2557
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,000
one if Judge Captain's USA to a 
championship tonight. 

2558
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:25,320
What does that do for his legacy
and anything at all? 

2559
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,080
To me, nothing. 
That this is where I'm going to 

2560
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,960
keep it 100% real nothing. 
I want Team USA to win. 

2561
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,960
I wanted to win the other night.
I want to win every game. 

2562
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,920
I want to be Venezuela. 
You know, I am not wrestling 

2563
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:37,320
with all. 
I just don't know. 

2564
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,400
I don't think this way myself. 
Like, well, Mcclain's pitching 

2565
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,760
and he's a Met. 
I'm about the United States. 

2566
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:46,320
Let's go. 
So I think that I think we will 

2567
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,960
win now. 
I'd love to see Judge pop a home

2568
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,840
run instead of, you know, 
striking out with a couple of 

2569
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,360
guys on base like he did the 
other night. 

2570
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,520
Even though he's got a couple of
home runs, he's played good 

2571
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:56,840
defense. 
I'd love to see. 

2572
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,960
I'd like for Aaron Judge, I 
would like to see him have a 

2573
01:58:59,960 --> 01:59:03,880
clutch moment because there's 
still some people who don't 

2574
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,880
think he's clutch and you listen
up until last year in the play 

2575
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,720
offs, he he wasn't incredibly 
clutch. 

2576
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:12,800
I that's not a manufacturer of 
it's not manufacturing lies. 

2577
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:14,800
He hasn't been incredibly clutch
over the years. 

2578
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,320
Leo. 
It's changing now. 

2579
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,600
So maybe if he goes deep, it'll 
be some people get off his back 

2580
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:21,960
a little bit. 
But you will never, let's put it

2581
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,080
this way, say 10 years, 
whatever, and Judge retires Hall

2582
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:29,360
of Fame, obviously first ballot,
probably every vote, 596 home 

2583
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:32,520
runs because he started late. 
And whatever he has the five 

2584
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,480
MVPS. 
You're not getting it. 

2585
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:37,040
If he's without a World Series 
championship as a Yankee, 

2586
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:41,360
you'll, I promise you, you will 
not hear me say yeah, that WBC, 

2587
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:44,920
It won't even I won't. 
I will not even be a point of 

2588
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,040
reference. 
I clearly and distinctly 

2589
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:49,080
separate the two. 
It's fun. 

2590
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,280
It's incredibly competitive. 
It's a great look for baseball. 

2591
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:55,760
It's energized me even more for 
the start of the real baseball 

2592
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:58,080
season. 
I've leaned into it more and 

2593
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,760
more and more from its infancy. 
I gave you guys the attendance 

2594
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:03,280
numbers before. 
I'll give you this before I 

2595
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:05,520
bounce. 
So I'm going to just read it 

2596
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:10,320
kind of quick in succession O9. 
Let's see here I'm going to go 

2597
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:16,200
2013 2017 20232026 total 
attendance, not viewership 

2598
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:24,680
781,973 thousand 1.1 million 1.4
million so nice little 

2599
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:28,160
incremental bump each year and 
the coverage seems to be getting

2600
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:30,600
better and the energy is real 
and palpable. 

2601
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,880
So it's been terrific. 
But no if if even if Aaron judge

2602
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,800
hits a walk off Grand Slam down 
3. 

2603
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:40,840
All I will say tomorrow is, you 
know, is he's. 

2604
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,200
Still the best. 
Player I've ever seen but legacy

2605
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:47,200
now that I that will not no same
with like like Brunson wins the 

2606
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:51,240
MVP and the All Star game or the
shootout with Kat and Alan 

2607
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,480
Houston or an Olympic gold 
medal. 

2608
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:58,080
That's I I can't end on that. 
That's one thing that used to 

2609
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,760
drive me nuts about Carmelo 
Anthony's resume. 

2610
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:03,360
What did they say? 
He's a gold medalist. 

2611
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,240
He's a gold medalist. 
He's a great. 

2612
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:09,040
He's a I know. 
I know, and I'm a Syracuse guy, 

2613
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,680
but I will admit that. 
That is the biggest farce of an 

2614
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:12,800
argument. 
Ever. 

2615
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:14,720
I couldn't take it. 
I couldn't take it anymore. 

2616
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:17,400
It was like almost in lieu of 
an. 

2617
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:20,360
NBA championship. 
I'm like, no, you can win 6 

2618
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:23,760
Olympic gold medals and if you 
have no championships, you're 

2619
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:27,640
in, you're not an NBA champion. 
And in that sport, as well as if

2620
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:30,760
you're a quarterback in the NFL,
there's a price and a penalty 

2621
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,560
that comes with that, whether 
it's right or wrong, justified 

2622
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:35,000
or not. 
And I know that there's a lot of

2623
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:38,200
circumstances that get ignored 
over time. 

2624
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:40,120
Like you'll hear, oh, Barkley 
never won. 

2625
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,160
Oh, Ewing never won. 
Oh, Stockton never won. 

2626
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:43,680
Oh, Karl Malone never won. 
Yeah. 

2627
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,840
But like, they were on the Dream
team. 

2628
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:48,160
No, I know, I know. 
But I feel like some of the 

2629
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:50,480
details that that I. 
Know that maybe some other. 

2630
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:54,200
NBA fans don't know like you 
know like Kobe had Shaq and 

2631
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,760
Magic had Kareem and Larry Bird 
had Kevin McHale. 

2632
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,080
No bits. 
Patrick Ewing had John Starks 

2633
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:02,400
who was ABAB minus BB type of 
player. 

2634
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,240
He just was was it made what, 1 
All Star team? 

2635
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:08,000
You know, I love OAK tough. 
They weren't stars. 

2636
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:09,560
He never had that secondary 
star. 

2637
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,560
So people say Pat wasn't a 
champion and they're right. 

2638
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:15,600
He was not an NBA champion, but 
it really wasn't his fault. 

2639
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:17,960
All right. 
And you know, there, there's 

2640
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:22,000
some of that that would also 
support Carmelo, but Carmelo 

2641
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,840
Anthony was on way too many 
Knick teams that were 2325, 

2642
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:29,960
thirty wins going nowhere and 
just wretched and doormats and 

2643
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,680
just dumpster fires that I don't
care. 

2644
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,840
You know, if he likes the 
Olympic flame every single time,

2645
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:40,280
every single Olympic moving 
forward and he coaches Team USA 

2646
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:43,200
to five more gold medals, it 
doesn't matter to me. 

2647
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,480
Like I separate the two. 
I'm not trying to diss him. 

2648
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,920
I just separate the two. 
I love for Carmelo. 

2649
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,760
Great score, good guy. 
They're vastly different. 

2650
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,200
Similar thing, although much 
less because I think a lot. 

2651
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:57,360
Of his other career stats speak 
more, but like Chris Paul a 

2652
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,640
little bit as well with this, 
but definitely not as much. 

2653
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:02,480
All right, homie, let me get 
out. 

2654
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:05,000
Let me get out here. 
So tomorrow. 

2655
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:06,560
Good show today. 
By the way, John was great. 

2656
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,240
We're going to get that up, chop
that up separately obviously 

2657
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,120
from the other stuff that we do 
here is going to get the ports 

2658
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:14,520
out, do a great job with that. 
The shorts took off the shorts 

2659
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,240
yesterday and some of the stuff 
with Beningo, I mean one of our 

2660
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,360
higher short number. 
So you guys are doing a good job

2661
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,880
with the likes and, and, and the
sharing and the subscriptions. 

2662
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:25,160
We got to get all that up 
tomorrow. 

2663
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,920
Now we're flying out at 10 AM 
St. 

2664
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,320
John's and this is when I go on 
the air at 10. 

2665
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:34,280
So I'm going to have Nikki on. 
I'm, I'm just going to tell I 

2666
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:35,720
recorded it. 
I'm not going to try to lie to 

2667
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:37,200
anybody. 
You know, some people try to, 

2668
02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:40,240
oh, present this live. 
I recorded it last night. 

2669
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:43,840
She's phenomenal. 
I mean, it's really good, right?

2670
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:47,400
I mean, it's right up there with
the Fanta. 

2671
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,560
Right here, like that one very 
different, great, super 

2672
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:53,600
different from the Fanta. 
Really gives you a unique 

2673
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:56,200
perspective from a young person 
in the industry. 

2674
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,040
I had a young woman, young. 
Yeah, especially young woman. 

2675
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:02,280
I thought, yeah, like you get a 
super fresh perspective. 

2676
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:03,800
Nice. 
I thought that was cool. 

2677
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:05,840
And it's over an hour, so 
that'll be on tomorrow. 

2678
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:07,360
And then what I'll do is and 
I'll. 

2679
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:10,360
Let you guys know about this on 
X on Instagram and and obviously

2680
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:14,080
on the YouTube channel, there's 
a post tab where I'll let you 

2681
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:15,400
guys know. 
I don't know, some of you know 

2682
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,000
this because some of you chime 
in like I'll alert you with a 

2683
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:19,360
guest or whatever might be going
on. 

2684
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,880
I will also use that to let you 
know. 

2685
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:24,680
I'm sure I'll go live a few 
times in San Diego. 

2686
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,240
Obviously I'll be doing the 
game, but make what I'd love to 

2687
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,160
really do. 
I just got to figure out when 

2688
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,200
we'll do it. 
I know Mink will do it. him and 

2689
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:35,400
I will go and, you know, sit 
somewhere and and have a drink 

2690
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,320
and just put the phone up, 
honestly, and just go live. 

2691
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:40,640
Really just like put the phone 
like that. 

2692
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:42,720
But we're gone. 
Just have a, that'd be great. 

2693
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,320
That'd be great. 
I'll do such and. 

2694
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,120
I'll bring you obviously the 
NCAA tournament to you, 

2695
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:51,480
obviously focusing on St. 
John's, but some other cool 

2696
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:53,720
stuff. 
Tomorrow I'll find some time to 

2697
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,440
at least hit up what happens 
tonight, the WBC. 

2698
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,040
So it's going to be a little 
different, but they'll be plenty

2699
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:01,080
of content, I promise. 
Nikki tomorrow, if you guys 

2700
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:04,120
missed anything, go check it 
out, like it, subscribe, share 

2701
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:06,800
it, get it all out there. 
J Rod, you and I will be doing 

2702
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,320
our thing connecting, so I'll 
talk to you down line and I'll 

2703
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:10,960
text and all that stuff. 
Yeah. 

2704
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,440
Have a safe trip. 
Thank you, man. 

2705
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:14,520
Thank you. 
I appreciate it, Jay. 

2706
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,280
Thanks brother and everybody 
else man, I'll. 

2707
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:19,520
Check you guys from the. 
Road and Nikki tomorrow, Nikki 

2708
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:22,840
Ladarullo, 10 AM from SNY, 
covers St. 

2709
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:24,160
John's. 
We'll have a little fun with her

2710
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,760
and we'll do the rest of the 
stuff from San Diego, hopefully 

2711
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,000
for two wins. 
Hopefully St. 

2712
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:32,440
John's gets to the Sweet 16 and 
takes another step compared to a

2713
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:34,040
year ago. 
So I got to go. 

2714
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:36,640
I'll see you guys tomorrow. 
Have an awesome, awesome rest of

2715
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:38,160
you Tuesday. 
Peace.

