1 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,040 But everybody BT unleashed in the house. 2 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,200 All right, so before we jump into the show, we've made a 3 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,960 little progress here. You can now see the logo because 4 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,720 what I did was and of course, right before I started the show, 5 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,600 I got to lean down and grab something here. 6 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,480 Your boy had to go old school and because the lighting things 7 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,880 are not here yet, I basically had to create these things and 8 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,360 hang them from the wall to obscure some of the light. 9 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,320 One just fell. At least you can now see the 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,640 logo perfectly. And then obviously the I told 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,480 you work in progress, man, click by click, brick by brick and 12 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,920 literally SJ rod like 20 seconds before we came on bank. 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,680 It drops from the from the ceiling. 14 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,040 So we're getting there. Obviously there's still a little 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,560 shine, a little gloss. Whatever will take care of that. 16 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,920 Let's jump into the show. Hopefully everybody had 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,120 outstanding weekend. You know, listen, I want to, I 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,480 want to start with the NBA here. I want to get into something 19 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,840 John Horrible said. With Mike Francesa and some 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,920 other places as well. We've got BT's 3 burning 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,040 questions brought to you by Sullivan Papayne. 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Got a little Johnny's Providence to brawl. 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,200 We'll get to it all. Get the text coming, fire them 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,040 in. Let's have a little fun, kiddos. 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Probably most of the kids are home from school today, I would 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,640 imagine. And Speaking of kids, I got to 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,680 give a shout out to mine. How about this? 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,320 We got the we've got the first official BT merchandise now the 29 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,280 store is not open. This is just for daddy. 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,240 And my son made this. You know what he made this on 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 and it is. So Santa brought. 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,680 No, no, I'm sorry. It wasn't from Santa. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,640 It was from Granny and Papa. I guess it's a new thing, 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,840 somewhat new. And it's a 3D printer and and I 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,440 remember when I heard the concept of a 3D printer. 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 J Rod, you know about this stuff that Jay, do you know about the. 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,520 Three. Yeah, big time. 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,120 You do. So you, Rick, do you have one? 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,000 I don't have one personally. I was actually like speaking 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 with my roommate about potentially looking into it, but 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,360 it's something a lot of like kids are, which is funny. 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Like a lot of like, you know, younger preteen age kind of 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,760 kids. They're like super into like the 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,440 3D printing thing now. Like they'll just get the little 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,320 plastic, like that's what they'll get and they'll just 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,120 make as many like toys as they want. 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,720 It's wild dude. It's got like, it almost looks 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,520 like an, like an octopus with all these different arms and 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,960 wires and contraptions. You get different colors, you 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,320 make different stuff. So when I first heard about the 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,760 concept of a 3D printer, I was actually, I'm saying and, and my 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,120 wife was saying, oh, you can make anything. 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,840 You can make wiffle balls. And in my mind, I'm like 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,760 printer. So I'm thinking it's going to be 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,200 like a pliable paper wiffle ball. 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,000 I mean, why? Why would I negotiate any other 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,960 printer with anything but paper? And then, and then Grammy and 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,920 Papa got it for Christmas and he's cranking out handcuffs. 59 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,360 He's making hard wiffle balls. He's making this stuff. 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,600 So I'm sure, Yeah, that. Mug was 3D printed, yes. 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,920 Oh my goodness, because it looks very like solid. 62 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,760 It is, I mean, otherwise it will be dripping on me and it and it 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,760 can, I was a a little worried like would it handle the heat? 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,920 And and it obviously has because we just bought a nice cup of 65 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:27,280 coffee this morning. So we've got a few of those for 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,080 the family. Yeah. 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,240 Now I would imagine when we actually make these for the 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,000 show, that's a sticker that he also made, you know, that'll be 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 maybe a little bit more refined, a little bit more blended in. 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,840 But you guys always love the mugs. 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,960 You always love the I always comment on the vast array and 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,160 collection of mugs here. Here's my favorite one so far, 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,080 courtesy of my son with the 3D printer. 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,920 So I'm enjoying that now. All right, so let me say this 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360 here, right? What are the things and, and I 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,720 know that I listen, I know how the game goes, guys. 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,800 I mean, obviously negativity, negativity is going to sell. 78 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,760 And if you can try, and I remember doing this like a WFAN, 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,400 you would look at some of our digital content, which would 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,040 absolutely explode. Like Sam and I consistently had 81 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,920 by far the most views of anything on YouTube on WFAN. 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,680 You can look that up that, that that's, that's a fact. 83 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,079 And we would just, you know, the content, it would there's 84 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:24,800 another one that just fell. Oh boy, oh boy, the content 85 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,880 would just sell right. And and obviously the ones that 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,560 went, I don't, I don't, I don't even care about the word viral, 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,320 But the ones that generally had the most, you know, the most 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,880 click throughs, whatever the most traction were ones either, 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,080 you know, an explosive debate or, you know, crushing somebody, 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,080 a coach or a player or like, you know, the Carl Bank stuff or 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,000 some of the Mets stuff with, with Soto and Pete Lindor, 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 whatever, whether it was a chemistry thing, those things 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,640 always went through the roof. And I understand why because 94 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,920 that, you know, that's salacious stuff pertaining to sports 95 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,640 that's always going to sell, That's always going to resonate. 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,720 You could put out a tweet and, and I've done this as a social 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,080 experiment. Now I'll never tweet something 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,160 out that I don't mean doesn't mean it's always going to be 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,280 right. But I, you know, I just to 100 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,080 contrast and, and look and, and do a little experiment. 101 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,360 As I said, like after a big Nick win, you know, I'm I'm not every 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,480 Nick win, but you know, if it's something that catches my 103 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,240 attention, you know, a good quality win. 104 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,080 You beat Denver, you beat a good team, whatever. 105 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,040 Hey, you know, hey, Nick's look great. 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Great job by the Knicks tonight. Knicks looked awesome. 107 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Just a little short, little little pop there. 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Put it out on the on social media. 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,000 You know, it might get I don't know, whatever is relative to 110 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,480 me. I don't know. 111 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,440 It's it's a decent number at this point, but whatever the 112 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,080 number would be right. And then you would look at the 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,120 amount of likes and retweets and comments on something that I 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,560 said, maybe like break up the Knicks or I don't trust the 115 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Knicks or, you know, cats got to go. 116 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:56,480 Or I don't believe in cat or cat soft or bridges of soft. 117 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Like the, the, the comparison between the two is just 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 ridiculous, right? And you know which one of favors 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,760 the one that's negative and the one that has that kind of 120 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,280 energy. So the reason I say all this is 121 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:11,720 because even with that being said, and I'm in the business 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,000 of, of content creation and getting you guys to think and 123 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,760 getting you guys to react. I don't want to, and I refuse to 124 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,800 just turn into that person who just gets on the air and just 125 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,960 espouses negativity for the sake of, oh, you know, this is going 126 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,800 to be hot and it's going to get a lot of traction. 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Like I, I can't do that. Like it's going to come up 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 naturally enough because I'm a passionate person. 129 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,440 I'm a fiery person. You know, I'm invested in what 130 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,480 we do here on BT unleashed and, and it's going to eventually 131 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,960 naturally come out because it's going to be enough storylines 132 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,200 where it's going to be applicable and pertinent and you 133 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,520 guys going to react to it. So having said that, I could 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:53,560 very easily, very easily just come out and take a Wrecking 135 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Ball to Adam Silver, take a Wrecking Ball to the NBA. 136 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,080 And there's a lot of things that the NBA's got to fix. 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,000 And I went through this about a week or so ago where I did crush 138 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Rodger Goodell and, and I stand by it. 139 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,440 And the NFL on a lot of levels is, I wouldn't use the word 140 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 broken. I'm going to say that for the 141 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,160 NBA, I do believe the NBA is broken. 142 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 I believe the NFL has kind of lost its way. 143 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,720 I think the NFL caters too much to everybody, but you, the 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 consumer that helped build this product up. 145 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,680 And the NBA's made some similar mistakes as well. 146 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,480 When you when you look to globalize and when you look to 147 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,680 when you get in bed with these networks, you are beholden to 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,720 networks. And that's what drives the NBA, 149 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,920 that's what drives the NFL, and that's what drives Major League 150 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Baseball. It's the revenue generation from 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 the TV contracts. Yeah, if you really think about 152 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,960 it, Got merchandise is huge. But if you look at the actual 153 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,200 breakdown, including the ridiculously high ticket prices 154 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,160 at the Garden, that's not what moves the needle financially for 155 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,400 the NBA. It's all these massive deals, 156 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,720 whether it's a streaming deal, whether it's in a more 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,440 conventional network deal. So I want to come more with 158 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,840 solutions today because I do love basketball now. 159 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,360 I don't think Adam Silver's a good commissioner at all and I 160 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,440 think he's too deep into his commissionership, if you will. 161 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,240 I think it'd be impossible to just kind of change certain 162 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,360 things. I, I think once you open the 163 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,760 jar, it's really hard to stuff certain things back. 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,680 And, and I don't want to just take the low hanging fruit and 165 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,960 say, well, you know, Adam Silver's biggest mistake was 166 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 giving too much power to the players or getting a little bit 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,200 too political. Certainly during COVID, which I 168 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,440 do think has been a massive issue and a lot of people resent 169 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,400 that. But I don't think that that's 170 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,039 the main thing. I really think I'm going to lay 171 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:42,919 a few things out here for you. I think, and I never really 172 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,000 thought this until the last couple of years, but boy, it's 173 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,160 so obvious now when you think about the entrance into these 174 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,000 different leagues, right? Major League Baseball, you get 175 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,480 drafted, you go to the minors, unless you're like a Dave 176 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Winfield or you know, John, like very few players go from college 177 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,080 to, you know, a Major League field. 178 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,160 There's a progression now some more. 179 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,280 It's getting more and more truncated where AAA is less 180 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,160 viable. AA more is the launching pad. 181 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,480 So instead of starting low rookie, maybe he started high a 182 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:17,600 get what a Pike 3040 games if you were stud get bounced up to 183 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,200 AA, you know, show what you got. Not like it Acuna players like 184 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,000 that. Bang here you are on the show 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,880 and if you stay healthy, generally things work out. 186 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,080 But a Major League Baseball team like, you know, when, when the 187 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Yankees took Derek Jeter 6th overall all those years ago, the 188 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Yankees were not dependent upon and, and waiting for the arrival 189 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,120 of the almighty savior to elevate their team. 190 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Now that that that wasn't the eventually he got there and 191 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,680 eventually he's a rookie. You know, he won the job because 192 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,360 Tony Fernandez got hurt and he fit in very well. 193 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,560 And it was, it was a seamless transition. 194 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,080 But the reason why those Yankee teams early on in 90, certainly 195 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,800 in 96, why they were so viable is because they had veterans 196 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,080 everywhere and they had a lot of good players, right? 197 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Think about the NFL draft, which I cannot wait. 198 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,760 And I got a lot of stuff on the NFL today. 199 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,400 We're banging out the NFL because I love what Carbaugh 200 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,840 said. It really got me thinking. 201 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Could have a fun conversation about the NFL in a bit. 202 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,240 But when you think about the NFL and even as a quarterback, 203 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,560 right, Yeah, I mean, a lot of Mendoza go first overall. 204 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:19,960 He'll start right away for the Raiders. 205 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,720 But if they don't have an old line and all the other pieces, 206 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,480 he's not going to do well. And generally, like you look at 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,440 whether it's a bow Knicks, who's not a star but, you know, 208 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:33,280 drafted, fits in, good coach, good defense, ball control. 209 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,760 He cannot drown and his team could win even though he was the 210 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,760 first round pick and he's a quarterback. 211 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,960 The NBA is at a distinct disadvantage and I don't really 212 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,320 know how you change this because you're not going to. 213 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,080 You're not going to go back to the old days where you know 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,600 you've got to play multiple years in college before you get 215 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,760 drafted. The NBA is all about drafting 216 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,600 really on potential. And when you think about these 217 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 bad teams, and there are a lot of bad teams, which is a massive 218 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,800 issue with the NBA, you're asking a 19 year old, almost 219 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,120 basically a boy compared to the grown men in the league, like a 220 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,560 young man. I mean boys, ridiculous, but you 221 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:15,960 know what I mean. A young man who is not 222 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,000 physically equipped to deal with that burden and is not mentally 223 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,160 equipped to deal with that burden. 224 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,960 That doesn't mean that there aren't a bunch of rookies who 225 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 stand out. Like there's got to be a rookie 226 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,200 of the year. I get it. 227 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,840 But think about the situation and then the reliance of these 228 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,320 kids when they go to the NBA. So you get drafted by a 13 or a 229 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,440 14 win team. You played one year in the NBA 230 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,280 apartment. You played one year in college. 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,960 Everything about the draft is about projectability and, and, 232 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,320 and you're going to a bad team. So not only are you not 233 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,520 physically equipped and mentally equipped to be the man yet 234 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,880 because you're not fully a grown man yet at the age of 19, but 235 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:59,080 also which compounds the issue. You are going to a bad team and 236 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,480 you go into a bad team doesn't have, you know, a lot of good 237 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,880 veterans, which means you're not insulated and protected by those 238 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,520 veterans. You probably don't have a really 239 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,560 good coach because, you know, the bad teams just recycle and 240 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,160 go through coaches left and right. 241 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,760 So it's really a rough situation. 242 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 And well, what does all that mean pertaining to the growth of 243 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,280 the NBA and the state? Maybe not the growth that's more 244 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 economic, the state of the NBA. I'm going to tell you what it 245 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,800 means. What it means is very simple. 246 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,240 You've got a product that people don't enjoy watching period. 247 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Now when that 19 year old kid becomes 2223, you know, even, 248 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,440 you know, maybe even 21 in some instances. 249 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,080 But you play a couple of years, you hitting the weights all 250 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,880 year, nutritions change. Now it's your job. 251 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,720 That's your focus. That is a player more equipped 252 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,840 to deal with it. And then you start to fill it 253 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,960 out around that player and that becomes a competitive team. 254 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,680 All right. And now that's a team that you 255 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:00,000 want to watch, but it is just a distinct disadvantage. 256 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,200 Like these kids get drafted, they go to their teams, they 257 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,360 play 30 minutes a night, their usage rate is high and they're 258 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,640 not ready for it. And when you have 789 teams, 259 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,080 sometimes more, that is beholden and dependent upon young, young 260 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,280 players who or again, not physically mature enough to deal 261 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,280 with grown men on a night to night basis, you're going to 262 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,720 have a bad product here. So we can whine and we can 263 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,360 complain about the All Star setup and All Star Saturday 264 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,440 night. I didn't watch one second of All 265 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,840 Star Saturday night. I don't even know what they did 266 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Friday. I I know the cat and Brunson one 267 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,680 and and Alvin Houston, which is actually pretty cool, but I 268 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,880 didn't watch it. I saw the highlights and that's 269 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,360 changed tremendously. And I don't think you ever get 270 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,960 that back. See, the other thing that's 271 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,520 happened to the NBA, So and I, I understand it was through the 272 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,800 eyes of of a young sports fan. I'm going, I'm going back to my 273 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,480 early days right when I would watch Jordan and Dominique in 274 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:05,000 the, in the dunk contest. Spud Webb, those guys, they 275 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,800 weren't necessarily worried about being embarrassed. 276 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,320 I think what's happened now is that the, the modern athlete, 277 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,920 the younger athlete, you know, LeBron never did it. 278 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:19,160 You know, like they are so aware of their profile. 279 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,560 They are so aware of, of how they are judged and graded. 280 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,160 And in a lot of ways, it's unfair so that, you know, 281 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,920 LeBron, you know, say 10 years ago or 12 years ago, if we would 282 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,400 have gone to the dunk contest and he would have, he would have 283 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,120 bombed. He would have been ridiculed. 284 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,480 And that wouldn't have happened to Michael Jordan. 285 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,200 And that wouldn't have happened to Dominique. 286 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,360 And I'm just trying to be fair. I'm not a big LeBron fan. 287 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,400 He's a tremendous player. Can't shine Jordan's shoes 288 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,920 bouncing around this nomadic NBA championship existence took a 289 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,680 lot of shortcuts along the way. The stats are there. 290 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,360 He's an old time great. But to me, I don't want to say 291 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,920 it comes with an asterisk that's almost implying cheating. 292 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,960 But I view it through a different prism. 293 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:04,480 I just do now. I was watching yesterday with my 294 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,600 son and we were busy during the day, so we got back. 295 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 We watched the championship and the championship. 296 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,680 It just like the old GS that the legs were shot, the old heads, 297 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,120 they couldn't move. So I think that was a product of 298 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,720 young legs and they kept saying it. 299 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Reggie kept saying it fresh legs. 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,160 I, I applaud the NBA for trying trying some certain things here, 301 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:34,000 but I, I really just fear for the the overall health of the 302 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,640 NBA and the overall direction of the league because the things 303 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,640 that have happened here. That's why I'm not yelling. 304 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,720 I'm trying to come up with solutions here, but you look at 305 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Adam Silver, who see the difference between Goodell and 306 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Adam Silver. Here's the difference. 307 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Goodell, you might not like him, and he's definitely not perfect 308 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,160 and he's made a million mistakes, but there is no doubt 309 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,840 who's in charge, and that's Rodger Goodell. 310 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,440 And that's the kind of presence you need as a commissioner. 311 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,760 You know, David Stearns didn't want to be loved. 312 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,120 He care about that. He wanted to be respected and he 313 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,440 wanted to order in his league and he got it. 314 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,440 And to me, he's one of the best commissioners of maybe the best 315 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,600 of any sport at any time. Somebody like Adam Silver, who 316 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,240 was his number 2 all those years and a smart guy and a nice guy. 317 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 I think Adam Silver's a good man. 318 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,320 I just think he's a #2 he doesn't project any presence. 319 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,160 He doesn't project any leadership. 320 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,280 And I think his earliest mistakes was that he tried to 321 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,160 run counter to his predecessor and, and I think that that was a 322 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,320 massive miscalculation. He tried a different approach. 323 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,920 I know the world was changing. I get it. 324 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,880 I know there are a lot of issues that needed to be addressed. 325 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,640 I get it and I respect it, right? 326 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,760 But I think Adam Silver went too far. 327 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,080 He he allowed the players to really dictate the league. 328 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,800 And when you do that, you're not going back because the salaries 329 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,040 are too high, they got too much juice. 330 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,400 And now that is the inherent expectation. 331 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,000 And if you try to abruptly, you know, reposition that, I can 332 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,920 promise you it will fail massively. 333 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,520 So that's a big part of the issue here. 334 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Now Adam Silver, any commissioner but his job, I'm 335 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,960 going to give you a couple of positives here, right? 336 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,880 There's been massive revenue growth. 337 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,440 That's undeniable. There has been global expansion, 338 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,160 which has been undeniable, which obviously feeds into the, the 339 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,640 economic, you know, bolstering of the NBA and there's, and it's 340 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,720 a good thing, unlike baseball right now, there's been labor 341 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,680 peace. The NBA has had labor peace. 342 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,440 Now you can run through and I, I will a little bit things that 343 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,840 are, are real problematic with the NBA. 344 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,640 And if there's a solution to be had, I'm, I'm going to give it 345 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,480 to you. And I'm really coming to the 346 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,920 table today trying to help solve this rather than just come out 347 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,360 with negative energy and just make it worse, right? 348 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Cuz that gets old after a while. Everybody yelling and, and, and 349 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,920 screaming and complaining. But when you've got a, a 350 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:10,160 decreased importance on the regular season, I, you know, I, 351 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,920 I really don't know how you change that. 352 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,640 You could try to insert the NBA Cup in there. 353 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,360 All right, that worked for a couple of days. 354 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,280 That was interesting. Knicks played hard. 355 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,280 And then by the way, what did you hear after it? 356 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,760 When things went S for the Knicks, they were taxed out from 357 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,680 the NBA Cup. So even the one good thing was 358 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,000 kind of offset by a, a potentially bad thing that I 359 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,320 think other teams really might look at down the road. 360 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,040 All right, talk about load management, talk about players 361 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,840 skipping high profile national TV games. 362 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,480 That's a massive issue which ties in the load management. 363 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,600 And then really this is the biggest issue. 364 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,920 The superstars running the league, the configuration of, 365 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,720 you know, these old world teams and and players dictating 366 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,000 exactly when they're dealt, who they're dealt to. 367 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,360 I don't know how you work around that because it's already a 368 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:02,000 problem. It's out there and I think any, 369 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:08,000 any adjustment would require a massive collectively bargain 370 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,080 concession on both ends. And you're not going to get it 371 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,880 because the players have the hammer right now. 372 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Why in the world would they give that back? 373 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Now? You want to tell me financial 374 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,600 incentive? I mean, how much more money 375 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,960 could you make? And I, I don't begrudge him. 376 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,040 I mean, you make what you're worth, right? 377 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,680 You command what you're worth. Somebody's willing to pay to 378 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,840 you. That's great. 379 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,320 But you already have guys making 60, five, $70 million a year. 380 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,040 I mean, what's the ceiling 110 for one guy? 381 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,360 I don't think that that's really economically plausible. 382 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,680 Let me get Sean up here. Sean, B50D. 383 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,400 What up, Sean? How you doing, buddy? 384 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,200 Only way to bring All Star Saturday back one-on-one, Royal 385 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,360 Rumble style. 15 current guys, 10 legends, 5 celebs, first 386 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,840 point knockout guys run out of the tunnel full of surprises. 387 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,480 That's pretty interesting. It's pretty innovative, yeah. 388 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,960 And by the way, I understand that you've got to do stuff like 389 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,960 that, sadly, to maintain viewership, to maintain 390 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,200 interest, you've got to pull in the celebrity, You know, you've 391 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,440 got to pull in the actors and the musicians, and you got to 392 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,720 have that. And by the way, I don't have a 393 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,600 problem with that because even let's. 394 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,840 One thing I don't want to do and I know I do it on occasion, but 395 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,160 that's only because how I feel about certain players. 396 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,440 But what I don't want to do what I don't want to become and I and 397 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,840 I won't uh oh, that thing's going to drop any second. 398 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,440 Oh God. And then that's. 399 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,840 You can already see it dangling. See that see that thing right 400 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,480 there dangling right there. It's going to go any second. 401 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,520 Whatever, Jay. What I don't want to do is just 402 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,360 always say, oh, it was better back then. 403 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,400 Oh, it was better, better, better, better, better. 404 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,440 No athletes are better today. And let's not recreate the past. 405 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,880 What they used to do with the dunk contest. 406 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,160 They used to have luminaries up there as well. 407 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,000 And now a lot of it was like former players, like when Doctor 408 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,600 J was retired, Doctor J was. And then I remember Shaq, you 409 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,640 know, judging some dunk contest. That's you need to do that 410 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,600 stuff. It's you got to incorporate the 411 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,400 past and you've got to, you know, you got to have a vision 412 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,400 that includes, you know, pop culture stuff, and I think that 413 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,720 the NBA does it pretty well. That thing's going to drive me 414 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,360 freaking nuts. Oh, by the way, Speaking of 415 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,440 Doctor Jade, you guys start checking out the sole power on 416 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,360 prime, the four part series on the on the Abai love it. 417 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,760 I I watched the first episode last night and I watched the 418 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,040 second one. Wow, it is really I've I've 419 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,880 always had this intrigued with the ABA. 420 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,120 It just seemed well, number one, it was so counterculture. 421 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,080 I mean, they they went up against the NBA and there were 422 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,720 other fledging fledgling leagues that tried to do it that didn't 423 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,160 have the success. It's really well done. 424 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,640 I mean, the thing and I didn't I don't want to give too much 425 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,120 away, but I'll I'll give you this part. 426 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,920 I never knew this. Obviously knew about Doctor J, 427 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,800 you know, Dan Issel, Rick Barry, the New York Nets, Virginia 428 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,600 Squires. I mean, I, I, I've done a fair 429 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,120 amount of homework on that. Like Bob Costas started with the 430 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Saint Louis Spirit and the Pacers were pretty much the 431 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,320 class of the ABA. They won three of the 9 432 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,920 championships, then the merger, blah, blah blah. 433 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,880 I did not know that they were this close to getting Kareem. 434 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,240 And that was an amazing revelation that was incredibly 435 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,560 well done. On the actual documentary on, on 436 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,920 the on the on the 1st on the first episode where Kareem, 437 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,640 who's always been a man of principle and just has no time 438 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,120 for small talk or nonsense or whatever, very direct. 439 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,680 And I've interviewed Kareem a few times and it's not easy. 440 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,600 I've interviewed him twice, twice on the radio and once when 441 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,880 I was doing the Wheelhouse on S&Y. 442 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,840 We had him in studio, I forget what it was for, and it was 443 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,240 amazing. I've got a picture with Cream. 444 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,240 I remember the first time I had him on the air. 445 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Somebody, somebody in management. 446 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,840 This was a 1050. It was at the Final Four. 447 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,000 And they're like, you know, just, you know, be care, you 448 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,640 know, he doesn't really love basketball. 449 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,320 He doesn't love talking about basketball. 450 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040 He loves talking about more, more societal issues. 451 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,040 So if you just try to come out and just cram, you know, not 452 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,880 that I would cram stats down his throat, but just talk about 453 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080 basketball, probably going to be pretty boring. 454 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,880 So I came a bit of a different route and it wound up being 455 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,480 great. And it was I had him on for 30 456 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,320 minutes straight, incredibly informative. 457 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Really, really, I mean, one of my favorite interviews because 458 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,640 he's a hard guy to interview. But what I didn't know about 459 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,120 Kareem that I learned last night is that George Miken, who was 460 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,120 the ABA commissioner, which I did know the first thought to be 461 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:36,760 the first truly great big in the history of the NBA, Minneapolis 462 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,120 Lakers about 6-10, you know, game much slower below the rim. 463 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,960 But he was like the giant of the of the NBA. 464 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,040 And then he became the commissioner and Kareem was open 465 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,880 to playing in the ABA. And he basically said said NBA, 466 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,920 you get one shot, give me your best offer. 467 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,600 ABA, you get one shot, give me your best offer. 468 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,560 And the way it went, the ABA owners, right, they pulled 469 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,520 together $1,000,000, which was a massive amount of money back 470 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,760 then. And they had $1,000,000 check. 471 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,880 And they actually showed the check on the episode and what 472 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,880 George Miken didn't do, he didn't bring the check to the 473 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,600 negotiation. So the AB as offer was lower. 474 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:26,320 But because Lou is a man of principle, he did not give the 475 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,080 A/B AA chance to make good because they met and George 476 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,400 like, well, I've got a, I've got a check for you for a million. 477 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,120 And we did this, we committed, we all pulled it together. 478 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,600 And I'm, I'm sure Kareem's like, all right, fantastic. 479 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800 Where's the check? And when he couldn't present it, 480 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 he just didn't bring it for whatever stupid reason. 481 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Korean wound up going to the NBA, which is insane. 482 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,880 Can you imagine they, I mean, I, I don't know what would have 483 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,000 happened at that point if he would have stayed or gone to the 484 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,960 ABA, Who knows? But man, oh man, I mean, it was 485 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,800 viable anyway with guys like Rick Barry and Doctor J and 486 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,840 those dudes, Spencer Haywood with the with the, you know, the 487 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,960 litigation. I mean, with that just really, 488 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,360 really good. Watch it. 489 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240 All right, let me get in at at inside the MLB. 490 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,760 The most prominent issue is the schedule being too long. 491 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,360 If the Jazz started 13 and eight in a 65 game season, there's no 492 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,400 way you could take it that point. 493 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Even if they wanted to win 1/3 of the season, even with one 494 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,720 with with 1/3 of the season down. 495 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,720 I get that. But guys, you got to understand. 496 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Listen, that's why I'm trying to come with solutions here. 497 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,440 I know I'm throwing a lot at you here, but the ultimate motive is 498 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,360 to really help make the NBA better. 499 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,280 And you can't truncate the season. 500 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,320 I don't know. Not that I wouldn't be OK with 501 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,800 it. Like, even if Major League 502 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,240 Baseball went from 162 to 150, I I'd be fine with that, even 503 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,160 though I'm rooted more as a purist baseball fan than I am 504 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080 somebody who wants to just, you know, disregard the past and 505 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,000 and, you know, completely start over and, and change the game. 506 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,920 I think that there's a happy medium. 507 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,520 I think there's a happy middle. But the problem is all these TV 508 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,880 contracts are tied into volume, volume, volume. 509 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,680 So I don't know how you'd go from 82 to 65. 510 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,680 And here's the other thing too. Even if they were able to do it 511 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,200 and the union could agree and it's collectively bargained and 512 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,000 the networks are OK with it and everybody's fine with it on the 513 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,360 surface, what ultimately would happen? 514 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,400 Because it will players do. They get greedy and they just 515 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,880 keep pushing and I don't blame them. 516 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,280 They push the boundaries, they push the boundaries, they push 517 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,920 the boundaries. And I could promise you, while 518 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,400 we definitely have a load management issue now with a full 519 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,240 82 game season, it might not happen right away. 520 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,680 But let's say downstream, 35710 years down the road, if a 65 521 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,400 game season became the norm, you would have guys still, you know, 522 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,920 taking maintenance days and then we'd be happy. 523 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,160 Or maybe my son and his generation will be having the 524 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,480 discussion if that ever happened. 525 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Now you've got to go from 65 to 50. 526 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,760 I mean, so that I believe that it sounds good. 527 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,840 I'll just just condense the season. 528 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,520 They'll play harder. They'll play more. 529 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,640 They will initially, and then it will go away and we will be 530 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,440 presented with a new set of issues. 531 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,640 I really believe that. Take the lottery balls away at 532 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,880 Mount Modern Cyphus Dash. Rui believe that was 5X. 533 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Thank you for that. Yeah. 534 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,360 I mean, that sounds good. I would like to see some sort of 535 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,360 modification where tanking is not rewarded. 536 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,000 Now, it's not the ultimate reward because those balls are 537 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000 still a bit unpredictable, how they bang around. 538 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,440 I mean, if you think it's fixed, I don't know what to tell you. 539 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,240 I do think it was fixed in 85 with Ewing to the Knicks. 540 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,800 I do believe that. I really do. 541 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,760 As the story goes, when when Sterns reached into that, that 542 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,480 little thing that used to, they had like these placards on there 543 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,120 with each team's logo and what they said was the Nick. 544 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,640 I mean, I don't even, I don't even know if I should believe 545 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,440 this. I do, though. 546 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,960 It's a good story. So I'm going to run with it. 547 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,360 That when they when the when he grabbed the cold one or when he 548 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,560 grabbed the Yeah, when he grabbed the save, like they were 549 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,400 like the third pick when he grabbed the cold 1, he would 550 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,040 like drop it and then get one that was warm and a different 551 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,000 temperature. And the only one remaining was 552 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,280 the cold one. And everybody knew the cold one 553 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,360 was the Knicks. I mean, that's how like how 554 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,360 antiquated, you know, cheating or manipulating is probably a 555 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:19,720 better way to say it was back then. 556 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,560 I mean, I know Ernst and Young, everybody swore to secrecy and, 557 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,720 you know, non disclosures NDA's, you got to sign your life away 558 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,520 and X amount of people are in the room. 559 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,640 I don't even know if you could cheat anymore. 560 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,960 I I really don't. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot 561 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920 of issues. Problem is I don't think many of 562 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,240 them get resolved here. I really don't we could tell 563 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,280 talk all day about what's wrong with the NBA. 564 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880 There's a shortage, there's a dearth of possible fixes. 565 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,520 And that's the reality of it at Omar. 566 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480 The problem with making the court bigger, wider when you 567 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,400 move the three-point line back is it takes defense that much 568 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,040 tougher. If you spread out the court that 569 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,800 much, going to be impossible to stop drives. 570 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,240 Well, yeah, I mean, that's I'm not really talking about that 571 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520 now, although that is I do think one of the issues. 572 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080 Think about this guy's right little little side swipe here to 573 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800 incorporate everything like a society thing, not politics, 574 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,800 like a societal thing and why they need to change. 575 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,760 Just think about the basic configuration of the court. 576 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,720 So it's 94 feet in length. That is what 52 or 53 in width 577 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,240 at 50, maybe even 54, but it's in the low fifties right, But 578 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,720 it's certainly 94 feet in length when the when a basketball court 579 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 when the court was designed all right. 580 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Think about the average size of Americans and now just bodies 581 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,320 across the world because the NBA truly is a global sport like 582 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,240 most sports these days. The NF LS probably behind all 583 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,520 the other sports with the globalization, but just the size 584 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,880 of people has obviously morphed into something that was very 585 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,320 different from the previous turn of the century. 586 00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:00,640 So if you go back to certainly Fenway and Wrigley and even like 587 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,480 tied the old tiger stadium. The reason why those seats were 588 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,920 so much smaller is because the average human was smaller in 589 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800 terms of height and in terms of absolute, you know, just sheer 590 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,720 girth, right? And through evolution, people 591 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,160 have gotten bigger, they've gotten wider, they've gotten 592 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,640 taller and they've had a made they've made those modifications 593 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,680 at the new stadiums. And I haven't amazed. 594 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,000 I have not been to Wrigley Field yet. 595 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,560 I know that that's criminal. That's got to change. 596 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Been to Fenway a bunch. You sit in a Fenway seat 597 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,680 compared to, you know, one of those, one of the even Yankee 598 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Stadium or City Field. It's like night and day. 599 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,840 It's not even close. And I I remember. 600 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,880 So I don't think I felt that the first time, but I definitely 601 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,320 felt that the second time. So when I was 12 years old, I 602 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,840 played against Japan in in this baseball. 603 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,800 It was like a goodwill friendship, like a mini Olympics 604 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,960 kind of thing. So I was 12 years old and we 605 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,640 played at all the boroughs. It was awesome, right? 606 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,240 We beat him like seven games to two. 607 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,320 They were phenomenal. It was just, it was one of the 608 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,520 highlights of my actually my sporting life. 609 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,680 I didn't play a ton, wasn't one of the best players on the team, 610 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,280 but I remember like I remember going to the tryouts and 611 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,800 everybody got a number and was at Lafayette in Brooklyn, right? 612 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,280 And 800 kids tried out and they took like 15. 613 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,880 And a few of my were my buddies from from where I grew up, one 614 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760 of whom got drafted, pitched at Seton Hall, like just studs 615 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,320 everywhere, right? So I played, but I didn't play 616 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,560 that much. But I remember when I the, the 617 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,280 like the, the championship game was at, was in Cooperstown, 618 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,880 Doubleday Field, right? And it was amazing. 619 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,800 But I, again, I didn't feel it at that point. 620 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,640 But then I went back and I played in a college tournament 621 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,400 and cuz now at that point I'm 19 or 20, I'm six, 2 1/2, you know, 622 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,960 205 lbs, whatever the heck. I was at that point versus, you 623 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,840 know, a kid who hasn't even hit puberty. 624 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280 I was a little late to develop. So I was one of the smaller kids 625 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,280 on the team at that point. The first time when I went back, 626 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:05,040 the dugouts were so low and so noticeably counter to what Major 627 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 League dugouts, let alone the seats in the stands had become 628 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,440 because of the evolution of the human body. 629 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,680 So that's a little sideswipe right? 630 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Now back to the configuration of the NBA court. 631 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,880 Think about this. So when the NBA was, it would 632 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160 when basketball was invented, right? 633 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Peach pits, all that stuff. The little set shot guys 634 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,640 dribbling like this, right? The nut hugger shorts the it's 635 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:34,920 the same dimensions that those no players 100 years ago we're 636 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,080 playing with not quite 100 because the NBA was built in the 637 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,120 1940, I think 47. So you know, whatever it is, 638 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,920 soon it'll be 100. And to me, that's wild. 639 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,320 So there's been no adjustments, there's been no modifications to 640 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600 the actual parameters of the court yet. 641 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,240 Everybody's getting bigger, everybody's getting faster, 642 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,720 everybody's getting stronger. Everybody jumps out of the gym. 643 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,760 When you look at, you know, the conventional starting fives back 644 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,160 in the day, you know your point guard and and I when I say back 645 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960 in the day, I'm not even I'm not talking about like Bob Cousy 646 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,360 back and I'm talking about even Isaiah. 647 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,080 All right, your point guard 51161 you know, like Isaiah. 648 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440 And then of course, magic came, broke the mold and then now you 649 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,680 know guys like Penny and and and many others after that. 650 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,080 But you know, back then you had you should have like a six one 651 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240 point guard. Your shooting guard may have 652 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,440 been anywhere between 6, three and six, five on the high end, 653 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,600 right? You small forward is probably 654 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,120 6-5 or six. And think about guys like Adrian 655 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,240 Dantley, dudes like that, guys who could fill it up, who 656 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,360 weren't tall, right? And then you power forward maybe 657 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040 in the 67 little beef here. And then, you know, yeah, 658 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,160 probably had a 7 footer, but there was a lot of 610 guys and 659 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,080 611 guys. So now think about you starting 660 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,880 dimensions, your point guard 65 minimum, You know, I mean, 661 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,520 Brunson's kind of an outlier at this point. 662 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,880 If you think about it. Your two guard is 6667. 663 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,240 Both, both wings are going to be, you know, round 6768 who can 664 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,160 jump out of the gym and fly up and down the court. 665 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,560 And your big is not only going to be 7 feet, but he's stepping 666 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,440 out, hitting threes. So how do we expect those big 667 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,880 bod? This is not a silver thing. 668 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,239 This is just a little sideswipe of the conversation as we swipe. 669 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:22,159 You know, I jump around the it's really unrealistic to think that 670 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,760 the game could look the same or that it's smart or fair to have 671 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880 that. God, that thing is that thing is 672 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,480 that's annoying me. As long as it's not on the logo. 673 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480 As long as the logo is not on. You see what I'm saying Chairman 674 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,639 see the on Friday, but the logo was getting peppered with light, 675 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,960 which took away I'm like, man, the logo looks so good in my 676 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,560 office. Before I flipped on the show, I 677 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,480 got lights banging right through the beam, the T the unleashed 678 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,560 it's barely visible. The logo does look sick. 679 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,400 Yeah, no logo looks great, looking clean. 680 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,160 I mean people are people are loving in the comments down 681 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,920 below. So there we go. 682 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Job well done. Yep, just got to work on those, 683 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,040 which is something I'm obviously doing here. 684 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,840 Oh by the way, quick, quick aside here. 685 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,040 I know that you guys, cuz I had him on a week or two ago. 686 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,160 I guess it was, was it last week? 687 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600 May have been last week. When do we have Sal on every two 688 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,760 weeks ago it was too OK, that that sounded more. 689 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040 It's what I thought. So two weeks ago we had Sal on 690 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000 the show. I'm going to go on Sal's show 691 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,560 Wednesday, so I'm going to hop on Sal's channel, give him a 692 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040 sub, hook him up, help him out. You guys just keep demanding BT 693 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,280 and Sal BT and Sal beat. We're going to give it to you 694 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,320 when we can. You know, obviously I'm doing 695 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,760 what I'm doing. He's and what he's doing, but it 696 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,040 makes no sense not to get together as often as we could 697 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,320 because that dynamic, that dynamic and that chemistry is 698 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,720 obviously, you know, very strong and very natural and very 699 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,080 apparent. When he came out, it was a 700 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,200 blast. It was just like it is, you 701 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600 know, even though we text and I've seen him once or twice 702 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000 since the end of the show at the fan, like, you know, we haven't 703 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,880 done a radio show. And at that point, you know, 704 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,680 well over a month and a half, flip open the mic, put on the 705 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,000 camera like the old days. So it is it is something that 706 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,960 we're aware of and I loved having him on my channel. 707 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,720 I'll get him back up at some point soon. 708 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,040 I'm going to go on his Wednesday at 8. 709 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,840 All right, So make a notation of that Wednesday night, 8:00 PM, 710 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,800 probably for about an hour. Be a good time. 711 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,840 I got to see how see how Bada booms is hanging in. 712 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,760 Oh man, that'll be fun. Oh my, there's going to be some 713 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,000 clips from that. Oh, God, yeah, yeah, I'm looking 714 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,760 forward to that. So that is on Wednesday night. 715 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,640 What else? We got cooking. 716 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,640 Oh, and then just one more thing, the extension of of the 717 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,520 BT and Sal thing. We are, I would say if there's 718 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,440 10 steps, we're definitely in the early stages. 719 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,360 But BT and Sal live 2 point O is in the works and we're 720 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,360 definitely going to Long Island. We've definitely got the venue. 721 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,840 Can't tell yet which one is, but we're going out east, we'll be 722 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,880 on Long Island. The goal is to do it right 723 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,040 before the start of the baseball season Again, we're we got to 724 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640 flush through these dates. What works for him, what works 725 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080 for me, I anticipate, you know, being on the road quite a bit 726 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,560 with St. John's during the NCAA 727 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,520 tournament. So I've got to work around he's 728 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,840 got to work around some stuff as well. 729 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680 So it might not work out before the season. 730 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,320 Higher probability early ish April, which will still be great 731 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,280 because the Yanks and the Mets will just be getting going 732 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,440 there. So that'll be a lot of fun. 733 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,200 So I'm looking forward to that. All right, so anyway, anyway, so 734 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640 I talked about before I get some other stuff I got burning 735 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,400 questions coming up in a bit the the massive revenue growth and 736 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,920 the global expansion and the labor piece are all great checks 737 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,480 in the column for Adam Silver, right? 738 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,080 Would you talk about the frustration of the fans where, 739 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,680 you know, the the premium ticket, the ticket prices and 740 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,520 there's no assurances the stars are going to play? 741 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,600 I don't know how you work around that. 742 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,720 You cannot mandate. You just can't. 743 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,240 You could try. It's going to sound good at A at 744 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,640 an Adam Silver press conference. Oh, yeah, we're looking for. 745 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,120 We're looking into it. Oh, yeah. 746 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880 You know, we're trying to get to a place where the best players 747 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,680 play in the marquee matchups and those primetime TV matchups. 748 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,000 How are you going to tell? Let's just say I'll take the 749 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Knicks. How are you going to mandate 750 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,760 that the Knicks play, let's say Jaylen Brunson tweaks and ankle, 751 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,720 which he's done a few times and, you know, he could probably make 752 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,800 it back. But you know, the Knicks take 753 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,640 the prudent route as they should at this point with a bigger 754 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040 issue championship, what they're going to try to get this year, 755 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,960 regular season not as meaningful. 756 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,920 And they're like, you know, the more prudent thing is I'm 757 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,840 talking about the Knicks. We want to, even though it's a 758 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,480 big game, we're playing the Celtics or the Cavaliers or 759 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,040 whomever on national TV, the Lakers on Denver and the 760 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,760 Pistons. Well, you know what though? 761 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000 We'd love to have them, but hold them out one more day. 762 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,240 Was the NBA going to say Nope, Jaylen brunch has got to play. 763 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,920 What do you do when we mandate that he played? 764 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440 You can't do that. It's just that's where common 765 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,040 sense has to prevail. And that's where I I do try to 766 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,040 be fair to Adam Silver. I just don't know how much of 767 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120 this you can truly manipulate. Now listen guys, the overall 768 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,840 dilution of the 82 game season, massive issue really. 769 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,760 I I think that the overall trust of the league has evaporated. 770 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,680 I do I think the overall trust of the league has has dissipated 771 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,640 to the point where it it's just it's I think it's at an all time 772 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,520 low. I really do. 773 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,000 I think some of it's the officiating and I do think that, 774 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,120 you know, even think about the the final two-minute report, 775 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,520 right? Think about that. 776 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,280 You get that there's like a bad call. 777 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,240 They miss a foul, they call the bad foul, whatever it might be. 778 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,360 The NBA comes out the next day. Oh yeah, you know, hey, listen, 779 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640 guys, we reviewed it and we were wrong. 780 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,800 Great doesn't solve anything. What you want to do maybe is by 781 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,720 the checkpoint here. Now this is getting in the 782 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,000 weeds, but if they mess it, but this goes into the viability and 783 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,640 the authenticity of the product and officiating is a major issue 784 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080 in the NBA. It's a major issue in the NFL, 785 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,600 which I talked about with the Goodell stuff. 786 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,040 But at least if there was something that you can flip in 787 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,040 there like all right, guys, we messed up. 788 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,640 We we are now, we just went through the process of our 789 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,080 two-minute review. Here's our answer. 790 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,240 And Oh yeah, by the way, because Team X got blatantly screwed and 791 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,600 we messed up with 3/10 of a second to go or two seconds to 792 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,760 go, we're going to reverse the outcome of the game. 793 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,720 Like I I know that that sounds wacky, but what? 794 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,600 There it goes. But why in the world down to 795 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,440 one? Why in the world? 796 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,160 Would you have a 2 minute report if you're not going to do 797 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,800 anything about it? To me, it's equally frustrating. 798 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,280 I can't stand that. So that goes into a trust. 799 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,800 And I do believe that the NBA, unlike and, and now the other 800 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,760 sports did it as well. But but they really politicized 801 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,600 things during COVID and I think I think it hurt a lot of a lot 802 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640 of fans. Yeah. 803 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960 And and there are and this is not even getting the weeds on 804 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920 the topics and the sensitivity to them. 805 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,120 I got no problem doing it. I just want to keep moving now, 806 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,280 not because I'm afraid to touch it. 807 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,120 I just got a lot to do. But if you think about like in 808 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,480 the bubble and during COVID, like there was like the 809 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,760 messaging was very clear, was very distinct. 810 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480 And that was great for some people and that was a massive 811 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,960 turn off for others. So I, I just think that they've 812 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,360 made some missteps along the way and there's inherently some 813 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440 things built in that I don't think that they could solve. 814 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,840 Again, you draft the kid 19 years of age. 815 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,480 All right. Yeah, mate, Great, fantastic. 816 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,280 He might be awesome when he's 2223 and he might win the rookie 817 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,760 of the year, but he's not really impacting the bottom line. 818 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,640 There's too many young pups out there playing against grown men 819 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,000 who are going to get their lunch. 820 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,240 You just, you can't expect those guys to compete. 821 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,720 They're going to try hard. They're going to try to 822 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,640 physically compete and their skill is through the roof. 823 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,160 I mean, the skill level is as high as it's ever been, but I 824 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,800 got to keep that up there, Jim. I'm going to do that in a SEC, 825 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,480 but I just think that when you have you know, so many young 826 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,040 teams, you're going to have so many lopsided games and nobody 827 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,760 wants to see it and that's a tune out. 828 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,920 How do you change it? I I really don't think that you 829 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,880 can at this point. That's why I say inherent 830 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,360 disadvantages with some of the things of the of the NBA. 831 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:44,880 All right at Charlie F 6675 Charlie, what's going on buddy 832 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,880 BT to stop taking in the NBA. What about taking the records of 833 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,560 the bottom 10 teams only for the first half of the season? 834 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,200 What about about taking the records of the bottom 10 teams 835 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,080 from only the first half of the season? 836 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,240 Oh, I see. And then wait, that's still 837 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:03,680 confused. And then and then what? 838 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,440 Like wipe it out, start over second-half? 839 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,320 And that's what applies in. Terms of my thought is almost 840 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,880 like, yeah, for like the draft lottery, he's saying like 841 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,040 basically in the first half of the season you're showing your 842 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,680 true colors as a team rather than like a plan tank towards 843 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,320 the end of the season. So only count those that record 844 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,440 through the 1st 41 games for the draft lottery. 845 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,440 So. Hold on. 846 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,520 But yeah, but even that, OK, again, I appreciate the ideas. 847 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,240 I'm an idea guy. I'd like to be a solution person 848 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,400 here as well, but that's not a solution because how do you 849 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600 circumvent that? All right, you take the 1st 41 850 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,240 game seriously and then you try to lose every game after that. 851 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,520 Yeah. So that, that, that's, that's 852 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000 part of the issue. I mean, listen, Adam Silver's a 853 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,640 good guy. I don't think he's a good 854 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,200 commissioner. I think he's done a lot of 855 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,800 things that you can't change at this point. 856 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160 He's just too far deep into it. I don't know what the answer is. 857 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640 I don't pretend to have the answer, but I know that there's 858 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,480 got to be some answers. And but I but again, I will say 859 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,440 and I actually think this is a little sad, Jay, we got Bernie 860 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,000 questions coming up in a SEC. Be ready for that. 861 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,960 Thank you, my man. So one of the things too like 862 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,800 and I like that Anthony Edwards said this. 863 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,760 I like that he recognized this. And again, I would have watched 864 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,040 more of the just out of curiosity of the All Star games 865 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,200 yesterday again, Saturday night shooting. 866 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,520 I just I I mean, listen, there was a point where like when 867 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,360 Larry Bird was shooting and Trent Tucker, like not everybody 868 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,800 was shooting threes. Craig Hodges, Craig ELO, like 869 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,480 those snipers back in the day. So like there was still some 870 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,320 intrigue with the three-point contest. 871 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,760 I mean the three-point contest at this point's about as 872 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,960 interesting as a layup line. I mean, it's become that common. 873 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,040 So I'm going to suck me in with that even from half court. 874 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,280 Whatever. And come on, man, guys been 875 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,840 pulling up near the logo for the last 10 years and Lillard, 876 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120 LeBron does it, it is what it is. 877 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,480 So I but I, but I did give it a chance yesterday and I would 878 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,080 have watched more. Just happened to be out with my 879 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,560 son and we got back, we watched the last one and it was the 880 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,760 worst game of the four. But I did like what Edward said 881 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,000 postgame, he's like, yeah, listen, man, like, you know, 882 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Wendy, he gave Wendy credit, you know, because Wendy came out and 883 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,200 said and the first three games were very competitive and Wendy 884 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,040 set the tone. My question is like, why do you 885 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,240 need a, a young player to set the tone? 886 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,120 Shouldn't the pride come from the veterans, You know, and it 887 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,960 has nothing to do with domestic, international, Like I, I don't 888 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,080 care about that. You know, if a, if a young 889 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,640 American player came out and set the tone, to me it's the 890 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,560 equivalent of of a young foreign player coming out and set the 891 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,920 tone. At least somebody had the 892 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,040 gumption to set the competitive tone and if even if you had no 893 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,080 designs, you know, like a LeBron or some of the other veterans 894 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,200 coming out and playing harder, right or with more focus and 895 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,800 purpose, when you have a young buck trying to school you and 896 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,200 serve you, your competitive juices can't help but come out. 897 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,440 So I thought that that was good that when by AMBA took that 898 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,840 authority and and showed that leadership and I thought the 899 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,960 product absolutely, you know was was rewarded for that. 900 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,480 But you know, I know many of you didn't like it. 901 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,840 I know many of you didn't watch it. 902 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,320 I know many of you complain about it. 903 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,760 It is what it is All right. 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All right, every Monday, burning 916 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,520 questions. First up, what will the Mets 917 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,640 team chemistry be like in 2026? Now, I know this has been a 918 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,160 massive topic and the reason I'm bringing this up now. 919 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,920 And by the way, these are kind of quick hits and we'll get back 920 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,480 to the show. 3 things I find interesting. 921 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,800 And I wanted to do this on Monday. 922 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,360 A little more content to to grab from, but what's the Mets team 923 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,360 chemistry going to be in 26? Now it's a little played out. 924 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,000 I mean, we've talked about this for years. 925 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,200 What about Pete? What about then then, you know, 926 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,280 the fight in the tunnel, the squirrel, the rat, the raccoon, 927 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,400 whatever the hell it was. Did he get McNeil the car yet? 928 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,400 Yeah, he did. It took him a year. 929 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,840 You know, all those things that we would kind of focus on. 930 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,000 See, I don't really care a whole lot about chemistry when you're 931 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,840 winning the the lack of chemistry, right? 932 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,680 Or, and and those are two different things. 933 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,600 You cannot have great chemistry. That's one aspect of it and 934 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,280 this, I'm not even talking about the Mets in general. 935 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,560 And it's just that not amazing chemistry. 936 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,760 But then the other thing, you could actually have friction. 937 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,400 And then of course, the the ultimate is what you're chasing. 938 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Great chemistry and really good players. 939 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,320 And those are teams that win. If you have, like, if there's 940 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,320 dysfunction and relationships and people who just don't get 941 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,920 along for whatever reason, which I absolutely believe plagued the 942 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,280 Mets clubhouse, listen, there's no coincidence. 943 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,080 The guys that got shipped out, like that's not a coincidence 944 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,600 that happened by design, OK? And I get into this today 945 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,800 because Soto and Landor both spoke about this. 946 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,920 Now it's going to be interesting. 947 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,200 I I don't think that they had great chemistry last year. 948 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,560 Those two. I'm not even talking about Pete 949 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,160 and and and Nemo and Lindor and those I'm talking about Soto and 950 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,400 Lindor. I don't think it was problematic 951 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,800 necessarily, but I don't think it was like, say and yeah, I 952 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,760 always don't even want to do this because it's going to get 953 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,560 hijacked because I really don't care that he's gone at this 954 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600 point. And and I'm certainly not, you 955 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,440 know, and I wish it was still there, but I've moved on. 956 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,360 I don't think it was like Soto and Judge like I I think that 957 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,080 those guys genuinely had an affinity for each other and they 958 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,440 obviously, you know, worked incredibly well together. 959 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,240 I think it translated off the field, you know, both 960 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,600 personality similar, both kind of tacticians and surgeons and 961 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,360 and deeply invested and immersed in their process of hitting and 962 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,880 getting ready to play. And I think I just think it was 963 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,560 an easy relationship for whatever reason. 964 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,680 I, I, I feel like maybe Soto Inlandur hasn't quite been as 965 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,720 easy. Doesn't mean it's going to exist 966 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,000 forever. Doesn't mean it's going to be a 967 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,320 problem forever. Both address it over the 968 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,240 weekend. As I said, now, if you don't 969 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,920 believe me when I say that, you know, there's some chemistry 970 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,160 issues. Well, Mendoza even hinted around 971 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,960 that when he said last year's clubhouse quote was too 972 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,440 corporate. That's code for we weren't 973 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,600 having any fun. And then I would think a subset 974 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,360 of not having any fun is guys getting on each other's nerves a 975 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,320 little, a little bit. And, you know, partially, 976 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,440 partially and have great pitching, so partially 977 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,600 contributing to a very underwhelming season with 83 978 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,680 wins. So the first burning question, 979 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,440 what will the Mets team chemistry be in 2026? 980 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,360 All right #2 And I already know the answer to this. 981 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,440 And it's going to really piss me off when I get the ultimate 982 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,440 answer because I, I'm getting the sense even if he hits 390 983 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,760 with four bombs and hits well from the right side, Jason 984 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,880 Dominguez is not going to be on the Yankees Opening Day roster. 985 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,440 And I think that that's absolutely ludicrous and stupid 986 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,120 and really emblematic of some mistakes that the Yankees 987 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,240 continue to make. So question #2 burning question, 988 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,280 will Jason Dominguez be on the Opening Day roster? 989 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,040 Notice, I'm not even talking about Spencer Jones. 990 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,520 That's a given. He's got no chance to make the 991 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,680 team. And I'm fine with that. 992 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,240 He needs more seasoning, right? Just strikes out too much. 993 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:25,120 But we can have a real in depth baseball discussion and we could 994 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,840 agree to disagree. Like there's varying takes on 995 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,360 Dominguez. I think he's a very interesting 996 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,800 player because what I've seen from his floor already is 997 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,680 pretty, pretty reassuring. You know it basically 260 stole 998 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,840 20 bases, 9 or 10 bombs and good patience. 999 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,280 Like his on base percentage and his in or his inability to have 1000 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,080 quality at bats and get on base at a decent rate. 1001 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920 Let's not throw him in the Wells Volpe category. 1002 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,400 Those guys are never on base and their numbers are ridiculously 1003 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,520 unacceptable. Like Austin Wells has a 28% on 1004 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,520 base percentage. I mean, that's just sickening. 1005 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,600 And we know where Volpe's numbers have lied the last 1006 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,120 couple of years. Sickening, unacceptable, you 1007 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,960 know, and they've got to improve it. 1008 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,080 If they don't, the Yankees going to have to move on. 1009 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,840 Either put them at second or get rid of them because Lombard's 1010 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:19,320 coming, you know, so I, I do think that Dominguez to me has 1011 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,800 at least satisfied the very, very basic requirements is why 1012 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,400 I'm annoyed Like, and the question is this, do I believe 1013 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,000 that Jason Dominguez is a Major League Baseball player? 1014 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,800 The answer is unequivocally yes. He, I, I do believe that. 1015 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,520 Now think about some of the that I only bring the Mets into it 1016 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,520 because the Mets had a lot more prospects like the babies, the 1017 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,280 Mauricio's, you know, obviously Cooney who's dealt, you know, 1018 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,480 Sproat, who's gone other position players. 1019 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,840 Alvarez has been hurt a lot. Like that's been more the focal 1020 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,000 point. They're young players for, for a 1021 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,040 couple of years now. And I think I'd be saying the 1022 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,200 same thing now. Like, I mean, I I think baby 1023 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,240 should hit 5th or 6th for the Mets and be their opening day 1024 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,440 designated hitter. Play some outfield, play a 1025 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,280 little first base, bounce around a little second. 1026 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,480 You want to give Michelle a day third. 1027 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,840 I I love his versatility to get hit as well. 1028 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,880 He's proven to me he's a Major League player now. 1029 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,400 He also showed more than Dominguez. 1030 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,280 To be fair, I don't know if Mauricio is a Major League 1031 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,200 player. I I don't I know he's electric 1032 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,000 with certain things, but his deficiencies worry me. 1033 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,280 I know Alvarez is a major leaguer. 1034 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,440 He's got to stay healthy and get a little bit better. 1035 00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,640 You know, I can't say this. I can't say anything positively 1036 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,240 about knowns pertaining to a Major League call up because I 1037 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,680 haven't seen anything yet but Dominguez and I know what the 1038 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,080 Yankees are thinking. See, but the Yankees are now 1039 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,840 trying to correct what they messed up a year ago and that's 1040 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,360 their bit like, that's just stupid. 1041 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,160 That is bad. That's a bad job by the Yankees 1042 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,080 formulating a plan and then sticking by it right now. 1043 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,880 I obviously understand the concept of if you're a young 1044 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,560 player, you need reps, you got to get out there, you got to 1045 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,320 play. So what the Yanks and I know, 1046 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,600 and I saw, I saw the quote, they're going to let them play, 1047 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,360 maybe play some center field in the minors, OK, You know, get 1048 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,000 them some more work left hand from the right part of the play. 1049 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,800 OK, great. To me, that's penalizing Jason 1050 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,680 Dominguez. I think you penalized in the 1051 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,080 last couple of months of the season when he didn't play. 1052 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,520 And I think you're penalizing him if and when, and I believe 1053 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,600 it will be when and not if he starts the year in AAA. 1054 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,520 He's not a AAA player. Now, I'm not saying he's an All 1055 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,240 Star, but Jason Dominguez is a Major League Baseball player and 1056 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:26,960 that's something else. The Yankees fucked up. 1057 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,920 They did. And that's one of the main 1058 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,480 reasons about the Yankees. Like one of the things that 1059 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,080 drives me nuts about them, they they're there's just it's it's a 1060 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,960 deeper rooted issue that continues to manifest itself at 1061 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,720 different levels and with different people and really 1062 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,360 different ways. But it's all rooted in the same 1063 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,120 thing. They don't draft particularly 1064 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,960 well. They don't develop particularly 1065 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,200 well. And I think too often they don't 1066 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,840 give their young guys a chance to root. 1067 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,920 You got to play when you were young guy, you got to play. 1068 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,840 And if they're going to lean on the notion that they believe 1069 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,920 that playing in the minors is going to be advantageous to 1070 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,400 Dominguez, OK, it's their team. That's their prerogative. 1071 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,800 I disagree. Like you're going to have to 1072 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,800 look this now again, if he hits 112, it's going to be an easier 1073 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,680 conversation. He's not going to hit 112. 1074 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,760 He's going to hit some bombs because in in spring training, 1075 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,760 because for spring training, you know, pitchers are just grooving 1076 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,960 fastballs and you know, they're they're just slowly 1077 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,720 incorporating their secondary stuff. 1078 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,360 They're not nearly a finished product. 1079 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,200 So the hitters always have an advantage early on in the 1080 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,080 spring, right. So Dominguez probably going to 1081 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,560 RIP. Then you have to look and rake. 1082 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,360 Then you're going to have to look that young man in the eyes 1083 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,000 and say, I guess what good job. Hey, you're really you know, you 1084 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040 did pretty well last year with with some a little bit of power, 1085 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,080 good wheels, good on base and you hit the hell out of it this 1086 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,360 spring. Go have fun in in in the minors. 1087 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,040 It's just it's the wrong message. 1088 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,640 I don't like it and I don't agree with it. 1089 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,560 So but that's still the question until it's answered. 1090 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:58,480 Will he make the Major League team? 1091 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,480 I don't think he will. And you know what bothers me 1092 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:05,440 finally, what's the ultimate ceiling here for St. 1093 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,440 John's? What is the ultimate ceiling for 1094 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,960 the Johnnies? I I got to tell you so. 1095 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,280 And I'll get into the fight in a moment. 1096 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,040 Boy, Providence. Providence has morphed into a 1097 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,840 sad, a sad version of what they used to be. 1098 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,800 The fans have lost their way. The administration's lost their 1099 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,120 way. How Kim Inglis is still the 1100 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,560 coach is beyond me. And what went down up there on 1101 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,320 Saturday, I, I will get into deeper. 1102 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,200 I want to focus more on Saint John's here. 1103 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,440 But how about this the and I remember, I remember this game 1104 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,680 like it was yesterday and it wasn't it was 20 years ago. 1105 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,880 I was trying to impress upon this to, to my son or impress 1106 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,880 this upon myself. He didn't seem very interested, 1107 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,840 which bothered me actually, because he loves history and 1108 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,360 stuff and he loves everything, you know, with, with work with 1109 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,760 daddy and sports and Saint John's. 1110 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,640 Maybe he was tired. I was actually like what? 1111 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,040 That didn't find that interesting. 1112 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,280 I was actually bothered they didn't find it interesting. 1113 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:04,840 So in 2006, right, I was in the broadcast booth when the St. 1114 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:14,080 John's Red Storm snapped the 25 game Rd. losing streak. 25 games 1115 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,960 in a row. May have actually been 26, but I 1116 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,840 think it was 25 in a row. And that was when South Florida 1117 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,040 was still in the Big East and South Florida was terrible like 1118 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,600 St. John's. 1119 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,920 And I did the game, it wasn't even a mink, it was Crispino. 1120 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,400 It was me, Crispino, good guy who's doing the UConn Huskies 1121 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,720 now, last bunch of years, right? And my boy to return, it was a 1122 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,640 great guy, former point guard St. 1123 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,040 John's that we did every game together. 1124 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,640 So back then I would travel to every game. 1125 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,360 You know, I'd go to West Virginia, Virginia Tech, my 1126 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:47,320 aunt, like you name Notre Dame, like the older configuration of 1127 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,720 the Big East that's I would travel all the time. 1128 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,840 Obviously, you know, now I can travel again, but the I've got 1129 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,000 more of a flex schedule. But I had to stop traveling, 1130 00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,240 partly because of the kids. I didn't want to, I didn't want 1131 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,880 to miss anything, you know, but also because I couldn't justify, 1132 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,040 you know, the games weren't on WFAN. 1133 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,320 They used to be, but they weren't when I was there. 1134 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,840 So I couldn't tell my bosses at the fan. 1135 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,240 Hey, you know, I'm going to be at Creighton on a Tuesday night 1136 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,160 and I'm going to miss a couple of shows. 1137 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,360 I, I, you can't do that. Anyway, I had more flex back in 1138 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,120 the day when it was on 10:50. So I would do all those games. 1139 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,880 And I say this because on Saturday, St. 1140 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:28,360 John's won their 11th straight Big East Conference Rd. game, 1141 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,720 11th straight. That's a program record. 1142 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,960 Now think about that, which is amazing and think about the stat 1143 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,760 that I just dropped on you that your boy had the misfortune of 1144 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,960 of of being in the middle of 25 straight Rd. losses. 1145 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,520 There was finally snapped in 2006. 1146 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,760 I remember leaving that arena like the weight of the world was 1147 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,760 off the program that nothing really happened. 1148 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,520 If I was Norm Roberts team, great guy, not a good team, and 1149 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,080 it just shows you how far they've come. 1150 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,320 Now, if there's some dissenting voices out there, well, yeah. 1151 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,560 Well, what would St. John's be without Rick Pitino? 1152 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,080 And what would St. John's be without NILI? 1153 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,160 Don't care because it doesn't apply anymore. 1154 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,240 And by the way, you're probably right. 1155 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,800 Like if St. John's was trying to do this the 1156 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,960 way like a few other Big East teams are trying to like sheet 1157 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,640 Seton Hall now, Seton Hall had more NIL money this year. 1158 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,480 Last year they had basically zip. 1159 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,160 I don't mean literally zero, $0.00, but nowhere near enough 1160 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,080 to get some players. They got a hell of a coach. 1161 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,640 They got a great fan base. It's a great university. 1162 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,320 I've got a lot of respect for Seat Hall, really do. 1163 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,280 I like what they represent and I like what I've always liked what 1164 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,840 they represent. Good rivalry, right? 1165 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,960 And now they're like, you know, this year though, like we got to 1166 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,840 throw some money into this thing and they're better than they 1167 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,320 were a year ago. Still, it's not good enough to 1168 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,680 make noise. But dollars correlate with 1169 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,440 success. Absolutely. 1170 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,440 So what would St. John's be with a bottom third 1171 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,880 Big East nil budget? They'd be awful. 1172 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,920 That's what they'd be because Rick wouldn't be here and Zubi 1173 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,640 wouldn't be, and none of these players would be here. 1174 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,480 So I understand it. Like people think that that 1175 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,280 bothers me. The only reason St. 1176 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,120 John's found their way out of, you know, oblivion or 1177 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,000 irrelevance is because they decided to, you know, get the 1178 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,240 checkbook. You're damn right. 1179 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,320 I mean, you, you get what you get what you pay for, you know 1180 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,680 what I'm saying? Think about this. 1181 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,600 So that'd be the loose example they should watch. 1182 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,160 They're probably here now. I've got to fix the lighting in 1183 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,960 my studio and they're coming today because it was supposed to 1184 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,120 come yesterday, got delayed, whatever, I don't even care. 1185 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,720 But I've got some good things that will change the optics and 1186 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,400 that where is it? That thing right there will no 1187 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,480 longer glow and it'll look good, right? 1188 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,840 But today I basically hung cardboard up and it fell 44 1189 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,480 recessed lights. Three of them fell off, right? 1190 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,640 I was literally up there on a chair with tape taping these 1191 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560 cardboard, these things. Again, if you just tune it in to 1192 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,320 the talk, there's the tape there, you know, boom. 1193 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,120 And they felt you get what you pay for. 1194 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,880 So when you try to get an assistant who's unproven and you 1195 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,360 have no NIL money, guess what? You don't have 19,000 at the 1196 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,440 Garden. You don't have a top 20 team. 1197 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,320 You don't win the Big East a year ago, both regular season 1198 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,320 Big East tournament. You know, you don't pump out a 1199 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,600 couple of pros. Look at Jenkins Zoobies going to 1200 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,000 get drafted. They got a few pros on the team. 1201 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,040 They're one of the better teams in the country. 1202 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,040 They're, you know, I think they match up really well with UConn, 1203 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,400 but I'm going to show UConn respect where I'm not going to 1204 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,840 say St. John's is the best in the Big 1205 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,440 East, even though they beat them. 1206 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,560 I think that match up at Stewart's is going to be tough. 1207 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,440 But I do think St. John's matches up well with 1208 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,600 them. But the point is what is their 1209 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,840 ceiling? I think St. 1210 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,680 John's is ceiling. I did not think this most of or 1211 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,920 I don't say most of the season because they've been playing 1212 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,560 really well for a long time now with 11 straight wins. 1213 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,960 But I think that the it's certainly been elevated. 1214 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,560 And you know, I told her, I remember watching the first 1215 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,320 couple of games, my son's like this team's going nowhere. 1216 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,240 I like this team. And I was like, not that's 1217 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,680 early. I had to got to figure it out. 1218 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,960 And as the first month went on, I'm like, man, he might be 1219 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,360 right. His first, his first call might 1220 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,120 be right. I'm like, patience, you know, 1221 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,320 Rick's got to get with these players, figure out roles, 1222 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,800 explain things to him a little bit doesn't happen overnight. 1223 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,480 And I actually think now. I think St. 1224 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,360 John's has a puncher's chance to get to the Final Four. 1225 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,920 I don't know if I'd bet on it. Not that I would ever bet on 1226 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,320 anything connected with St. John's. 1227 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,600 I would never do that, never have. 1228 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,720 But like, if you're looking at if if I'm not doing these games 1229 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,640 and I'm looking at this completely objectively, why 1230 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,400 can't Saint John's get to a Final four if they're not 1231 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,280 favored to get to a final four? You got some amazing teams, 1232 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520 right? Amazing teams out there that 1233 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,120 that can play defense and like Saint John's and can put up 85 1234 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,720 points a night like Saint John's. 1235 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,160 Like there are other teams that are phenomenal. 1236 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,000 But I think you know, and it's also match up dependent. 1237 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,920 So I'm not going to give you too much on how deep they can go. 1238 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,640 But for a burning question you don't do I think Saint John's 1239 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,600 put it this way. Last year I was we were all 1240 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,440 coming off for 31 and five year and and you know the the biggie 1241 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,600 stuff when they got knocked out by Arkansas and played so poorly 1242 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,320 in that game. Everybody but Zubi, everybody 1243 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,440 played awful RJ Lewis rough game, right. 1244 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,000 And that was that was a really that was a bitter end to an 1245 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,800 awesome season. I expected that team to at least 1246 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,960 get to the Sweet 16 and I think I expected them maybe to go 1247 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,040 beyond that because they were two seed. 1248 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,480 I think this year. I don't know that that you know, 1249 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,960 maybe it's it's not quite as wide that net, but similar at 1250 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,360 least the early rounds. You got to get you have to you 1251 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400 have to get to the Sweet 16. At least you have to you got to 1252 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,760 win a couple of games there. So I like St. 1253 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,280 John's ceiling. I love the way they look right 1254 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,160 now. They have figured things out. 1255 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,200 And you know, for me, the biggest issue just to the fight 1256 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:44,160 for a second, the biggest issue to me with what went down on 1257 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,960 Saturday. First of all, that was an 1258 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,520 absolutely ridiculous dirty foul. 1259 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,960 We all know that. I don't need to, you know, go 1260 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:55,320 nuts on that horrendous foul that that really could have hurt 1261 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,080 Bryce Hopkins. That was Duncan Powell, right? 1262 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,160 You great that the the still shot now in real time you're 1263 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040 like, wow, that was aggressive because he came from behind and 1264 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,640 he really he made a play for the ball. 1265 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,240 But you know, there was obviously Hopkins went flying, 1266 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,520 got up. Don't blame him. 1267 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,640 You know, was was pissed off looking for some retribution 1268 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,720 couple the Johnnies had no issue with some smoke. 1269 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,320 Dylan Mitchell was ready, lot of guys were ready and and 1270 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,600 thankfully no real punches were thrown because that would have 1271 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,280 led to suspension. But Rick said after the game, 1272 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,000 he's like, you got to stand up for yourself. 1273 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,360 And I get it. And I thought Rick's post game 1274 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,640 reaction was phenomenal because right away, I think it was Zach 1275 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,320 he was asking about it sounded like his voice. 1276 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,760 And if not, not that it's cheap. And there's the last one, not 1277 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,680 that it's shade anyway, but the, the, and I get it. 1278 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,120 Like if I'm a reporter, I'm I'm asking about the fight. 1279 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,920 And Rick's like, Hey, I want to talk about basketball. 1280 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,240 We're not talking about the fight. 1281 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,200 Like because they asked, I think it was Zooby what happened? 1282 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,440 And Rick said, you want to talk basketball talk, We'll do that. 1283 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,280 We're not talking about you guys saw what you saw. 1284 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,360 Write what you want to write, do what you want to do. 1285 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,240 And then he went into a commentary about like how back 1286 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,080 in the day, you could always fight the Big East. 1287 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,240 Now you can't. So he's got to teach toughness 1288 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,440 through defense and share the ball and having each other's 1289 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,720 back. But there's also a fine line 1290 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,040 when your guy. And then the still shot, which I 1291 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,080 started to allude to, you can see both hands around Bryce 1292 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,440 Hopkins neck. I mean, that could have been 1293 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,680 really, really bad. So a couple of things that I had 1294 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,600 an issue with. Number one, it was an incredibly 1295 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:25,560 dirty foul #1 #2 the Saint John's might not like me saying 1296 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,280 this, but I've, I've got to say what I saw. 1297 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,920 There is no way that Bryce Hopkins should be at midcourt 1298 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,160 there when that's going down. There's no way because everybody 1299 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,320 had your back. You know, 3 or 4 guys came off 1300 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,720 the bench and they got thrown out. 1301 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,840 Rightfully so. It's a literal rule. 1302 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,320 If you leave the bench, you're gone. 1303 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,120 So can't even contest that. I did think, although I love 1304 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,120 what he did, I thought the Dylan Mitchell deserved to get thrown 1305 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,640 out of that game. You know, and by the way, the 1306 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,720 way he ducked that punch from from the other pal, No, who is 1307 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,920 that from? Sellers, Sellers on Providence. 1308 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,800 It looks like he's got a little box in his background. 1309 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:05,840 That was a quick duck and couple of guys were really ready to go, 1310 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,440 including Dylan Mitchell. I thought it was a rough look. 1311 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,320 Now he may have really been hurt, although he kept going. 1312 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,240 So I don't know. But you, you can't be the 1313 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,120 subject. This is my opinion. 1314 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,520 You can't be the subject of a hard foul where they're 1315 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,560 everybody has your back and you're at midcourt nowhere near 1316 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,200 it. I'm not saying you, I'm not 1317 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,160 saying this at all. You don't come in, just throw 1318 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,040 them back. You know, you don't just 1319 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,480 throwing left and right. I'm not saying you do that. 1320 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,160 Didn't like the way that looked with Bryce Hopkins at midcourt. 1321 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,840 And you know, I don't I don't know. 1322 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,080 I'll talk to Rick this week. I don't know if I don't know how 1323 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,040 forthright he'll be. He always is. 1324 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,400 So he probably will be. But I would imagine if I'm a St. 1325 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,040 John's player and you look at that tape, even if it's not 1326 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,880 said, you know, if I'm Dylan Mitchell, I might be saying to 1327 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,640 myself, dude, I was in the middle of I could have been, I 1328 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,880 could have caught one on the chin for you. 1329 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,040 Like where were you? Not enough. 1330 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,640 That's going to be an issue moving forward. 1331 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,840 But I did think about that. I'd be, I'd be lying if I didn't 1332 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,240 say that that came into equation. 1333 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,720 Now here's where those those referees messed up. 1334 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,440 I thought they got pretty much everything right, really. 1335 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,200 And they had, it was a 19 minute delay. 1336 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,760 It was wild, man. You had to look at the film. 1337 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,920 I get it. And I thought that they got it 1338 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,360 right. The one thing that they really 1339 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,040 should have done is that, you know, when, when, when you get 1340 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,400 thrown out of the game immediately. 1341 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,560 And I don't understand why they allowed him to linger. 1342 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,840 I mean, he's just out there, you know, sitting there talking. 1343 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,440 I really thought Duncan Powell should have been sent to the 1344 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,320 locker room. Like, why for 19 minutes is 1345 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,280 Duncan Powell visible and imploring the fans, you know, 1346 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,200 and wolfing and talking his smack? 1347 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,320 You got thrown out. Get lost. 1348 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,560 Like, I thought the Big East did a horrendous job with that 1349 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,600 because now he's inciting the fans. 1350 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,640 Couple of fans got ejected. When something like that 1351 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,320 happens, it is the job of everybody. 1352 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,840 And Pitino got in the middle of the scrum to try to protect the 1353 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,040 players, other coaches did, you know, trying to protect guys 1354 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,720 from relieving the bench. Kim English was in the middle 1355 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,400 trying to defuse it. I don't think anybody stepped 1356 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,440 out of bounds except Powell, except Powell. 1357 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,120 And you know, and while when they went to the film to come, I 1358 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,880 think 7 players in totality were thrown out. 1359 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,200 When you go to the film, you come up with the list. 1360 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,720 That's going to take some time because you got to watch frame 1361 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,080 by frame. Dylan Mitchell, shove, set shove 1362 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,160 Sellers. I think it was Sellers 2 handed 1363 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,880 push. And then Sellers came back, 1364 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,240 tried to throw 1 and and obviously Mitchell ducked, 1365 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,920 right? So we talked about that. 1366 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,360 Zooby was kind of in the middle of it, but you know, not fists 1367 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,440 up, but but there Darling was there in the right way, in a 1368 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,640 good way, right? And then Hopkins was at 1369 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,360 midcourt. Why is Powell still there when 1370 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,560 he was, it was immediately announced. 1371 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,000 Automatic objection. There's nothing else to 1372 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,240 interpret. There's no more film to watch. 1373 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,880 They said it on the PA system immediately. 1374 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,600 Duncan Powell has been automatically suspended. 1375 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,560 I think that you suspended whatever thrown out of the game. 1376 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,440 Good. Take your bag and go to the 1377 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520 locker room. Why is he languishing around? 1378 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,880 It's only going to make it worse. 1379 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,720 It's going to feed into the energy. 1380 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,720 Take him now. He's at home. 1381 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:24,200 So I don't know that you really need a police presence to usher 1382 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,480 him out, but maybe you do. I don't know. 1383 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,040 Because they had it in in the middle of the scrub. 1384 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,840 And another thing, shout out to the Providence cops who got in 1385 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,560 the middle and made sure that it didn't really get out of hand. 1386 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,560 It could have gotten bad. It could have gotten really bad 1387 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,680 because of where it was in close proximity under the baseline. 1388 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,600 You got the student. I know the arena really well, 1389 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,440 the student sections right there, cheerleaders, 1390 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,640 photographers, like there's a lot going on. 1391 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,960 So shout out to the police. Did a great job. 1392 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:55,280 But Powell just lingering around laughing and throwing his hands 1393 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,000 up to bad luck. And that's the first thing that 1394 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,720 should have happened. All right, we got to sort 1395 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600 through all this mess. We got a lot of names and a lot 1396 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,760 of lot of frames of footage to roll through. 1397 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,080 So we're going to need some patience. 1398 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,600 And again, it took 19 minutes. Tell that young man to get lost. 1399 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,440 Now the biggie suspended him for three games. 1400 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,760 If Providence had had any sort of conscience, they would take 1401 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,080 away his uniform for the rest of the season and suspend him for 1402 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,680 the rest of the season. Listen, I really don't care 1403 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,040 what's happening up in Providence. 1404 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,279 It doesn't impact me. But I've always had great 1405 01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,040 respect for Providence. I always have. 1406 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,720 It's a great academic school. It's rooted in Catholicism, 1407 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,960 right? I'm a product at the Catholic 1408 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,160 school system. You guys know that. 1409 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:40,520 Grammar school, high school. And I think that they're what 1410 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,200 what, what they're like, their morals and their virtues and 1411 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,359 what they're rooted in are things that resonate with me. 1412 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,640 Really good people up there, really good academic school, 1413 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,760 beautiful campus. They have lost their way. 1414 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:58,080 Their fans have become unhinged. I mean, when Cooley went back, 1415 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,760 that was reprehensible, what they did to Cooley. 1416 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,200 So let me get this straight. You're going to have that kind 1417 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:09,160 of animosity towards Bryce, and I I get it to an extent, like he 1418 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,680 left your program. Your program stinks. 1419 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,359 Your coach is going to get fired. 1420 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:14,920 Probably should be fired. Now. 1421 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,319 English is doing it. He didn't even deserve the job. 1422 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,960 What the hell did Kim Inglis do to deserve that job? 1423 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,800 Nothing. You would talk to anybody that's 1424 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,240 connected with college basketball and every when they 1425 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,720 hired him, they're like, really? That's the move. 1426 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,399 OK. All right, Good luck with that. 1427 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,399 And how's it working out? Not well and I get that the fans 1428 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,600 they're going to be inflamed and and sensitive to one of their 1429 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,359 and and Bryce Hopkins, before he ripped up his knee, was a a 1430 01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,920 great ascending player for the Friars. 1431 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,240 I get it. You miss him, you need them. 1432 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,600 You're pissed off. You know Saint John's keeps 1433 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,279 although you just beat them at the Garden. 1434 01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,560 So you come in there with that animosity. 1435 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,400 But you've got to have you, you, you've still, you got to comport 1436 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,800 yourself a certain way. I thought the fans were wildly 1437 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,600 out of out of wildly off base and they've just lost any sort 1438 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,360 of control and any sort of presence and, and true viability 1439 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,800 with the program. Like you can, you can be a 1440 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,720 diminished team. It happens a lot. 1441 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,160 You, you, you can't have your morals diminished. 1442 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,760 And it seems like Providence is fan base and and and what the 1443 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,000 coaching staff allows that they're kind of doing that. 1444 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,480 So awful job by Providence. Phenomenal job by St. 1445 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:27,680 John's breaking through. St. 1446 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:28,920 John's was not playing well that day. 1447 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,160 They were not playing well. All right, J Rod, hook me up 1448 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,040 with some hook me up. But yeah, let me see here. 1449 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,520 Let me see here. I got this here. 1450 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,400 All right. Hey, BT this is at Rod Power 78. 1451 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,120 If St. John's plays Providence in the 1452 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,120 Big East tournament, Pitino needs to designate a player to 1453 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,240 go after Powell, put him on the deck similar that scene in the 1454 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,880 the grand St. the Great Santini. No, I disagree. 1455 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,960 And by the way, I'm watching the game. 1456 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,880 That's not how you get retribution. 1457 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,960 You get retribution by kicking their, their face in, you know, 1458 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,920 and, and coming back being one point down score the 1st 7 or 9 1459 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,280 points after the fracas. Darling was great. 1460 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,720 St. John's respond to the way I 1461 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,680 thought they would and they got to win. 1462 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,200 That's how you do. You just keep it moving. 1463 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,800 St. John's has too much to lose 1464 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,560 right now. And let's face it, Providence 1465 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,360 has nothing to lose. I mean, they're going nowhere, 1466 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:18,200 not even going to the NIT, You know, I don't even know if they 1467 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,320 still have those other tournaments. 1468 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,800 They, they wouldn't even want Providence, the CBI or those 1469 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,560 other ones you got to pay for. I don't even know if they're 1470 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,200 around anymore. But Providence basketball is a 1471 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,640 shell of what it was. But you, you don't do that 1472 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,320 number one, Rick wouldn't do that number 2. 1473 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,280 Even if you put somebody out there like a a goon to take a 1474 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,440 shot at Powell, well, invariably what's going to happen? 1475 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,320 Providence is then going to respond in the moment. 1476 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,320 And now you might have a player trying to protect more of their 1477 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,440 boys. Because let's face it, when 1478 01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:48,960 things go down, you're not thinking clearly, especially 1479 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,280 when you're a young man. Think about some of the fights 1480 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,640 that you've had. All right, Thank God I haven't 1481 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,440 had more than a long time. I've got 0 interest in doing it. 1482 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,240 But there's times things go down, like certainly in college, 1483 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,800 maybe a year or two after, right, something happens. 1484 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,840 You're not asking questions, your boys in trouble, you 1485 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,800 throwing fists. I mean, that's what you're doing 1486 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,600 and, and some people, but that's, that's the way it is 1487 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,040 and, or at least that's the way it was. 1488 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,400 And I'm, I'm not saying that that's, that's right as adults. 1489 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,480 I'm not saying that. But if your boys getting pushed 1490 01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:20,160 around on the court and somebody throws A haymaker at them, you 1491 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,720 know, one of their best players not going to think, well, God 1492 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,000 forbid if I throw a punch and I break a knuckle and I miss the 1493 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,840 tournament, he's going to go and get his guys back because that's 1494 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,640 what teammates do. That's what competitors do. 1495 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,320 So you will not do that. That's number one. 1496 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,440 And then even if you didn't get hurt, you're going to get 1497 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:35,720 suspended. You don't do it. 1498 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,840 No way. I completely disagree. 1499 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,600 You got to end it and you just got to understand they're in a 1500 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,360 bad spot. You got bigger things to worry 1501 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,640 about and a lot more to lose at Hoboken. 1502 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,040 Slap Yanks are running the back. I have mixed, mixed feelings 1503 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,640 about this. Do we have a backup plan for 1504 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,440 Volpe? Do we have the pitching for the 1505 01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:54,040 early part of the season? Let's go, Yanks. 1506 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,800 Thank you very much. You know, I mean, the backup 1507 01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:01,080 plan for Volpe is Caballero. I think the the backup plan big 1508 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,760 picture is Lombard. Now, you know, the Yankees can 1509 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,280 say what they want. I know that Volpe is healing 1510 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,600 well, but even when he's healthy, doesn't really have an 1511 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,920 arm for shortstop, more of a second base profile. 1512 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:14,360 I'm not going to waste too much time on Lombard. 1513 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,600 I know that they love him. He seems to be different. 1514 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,800 But I've been down this road before. 1515 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,880 I got to see what you are before I start touting you as oh, yeah. 1516 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,080 That that's that's you're the next wit at shortstop in Kansas 1517 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,600 City. Tap the brakes. 1518 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,200 So I I don't really know Now they're not. 1519 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,320 They're running it back. And this has been a theme that 1520 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,120 we've hit a lot. I don't want to be redundant. 1521 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,920 I want to get to the hardball stuff, but running it back to me 1522 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,320 is a little different. And I know that they said this. 1523 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,440 I know that this bothers some of you, but part of this it a lot 1524 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:46,440 of this is actually true. You're not running it back when 1525 01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:49,160 you have Garrett Cole eventually joining the rotation. 1526 01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:51,200 I know you want to Bichette. So did I. 1527 01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:52,920 I know some of you want to Tucker. 1528 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,320 I didn't, but I get it. You know, I know some of you 1529 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,320 wanted Peralta, which I wanted them to trade for him. 1530 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,720 Didn't happen. I get it, I get it. 1531 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,960 But the greatest strength of the Yankees will ultimately this 1532 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,480 year proved to be their pitching, their rotation. 1533 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,680 Now a lot of variables that I don't, I'm not going to reset 1534 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,880 them again. I've done that a lot here. 1535 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,160 But they are banking on that. And you know, there's the 1536 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,480 deadline. I mean, the Yankees got their 1537 01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:19,360 closer the deadline a year ago. So you don't rule out a Quan in 1538 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,440 left field, whatever. I'm just throwing stuff out. 1539 01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:24,320 I don't I don't know, I mean school bull who knows things 1540 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,720 going to happen. And I do think the Yankees would 1541 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,000 make a move to to fortify their team mid season. 1542 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,040 You know, I wish something one of these years would happen in 1543 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,280 waves during the offseason instead of like, all right, 1544 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,480 little dribble here like with Freed or little dribble here. 1545 01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:40,600 All right, we got Bellinger back. 1546 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,520 Like I'd like to see the Yankees go for it on a much more defined 1547 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,800 level, but not happening. So, but pertaining to the 1548 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,320 question, I don't I don't think they have a backup for Volpe 1549 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,840 right now. It's Caballero to start. 1550 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,560 And then hopefully Volpe comes back a little bit more refined 1551 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,080 and a little bit better and and the Yankees win. 1552 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,200 And if not, you know, it's shortstop's going to be an 1553 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,520 issue. It really is. 1554 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,240 All right. So did you guys see this? 1555 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,280 This was good. John Horribaugh said a lot of 1556 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,520 good things over the weekend, a lot of good things. 1557 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,480 John Horribaugh, who I love, John Horribaugh was on, he was 1558 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,280 on Fox over the weekend. What I heard, though, I heard it 1559 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,520 in the car and I read some of the stuff, snippets from Mike 1560 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,120 Frances's podcast. All right. 1561 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,280 So they talked a lot about like the number 5 spot in the draft. 1562 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,720 And I didn't realize this. I mean, I guess if I would have 1563 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,400 thought about it in these terms, I would have thought about it, 1564 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,320 but I didn't. Like, he's never picked this 1565 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,960 high in the draft #5 so he's going into a team that needs a 1566 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,720 desperate infusion of, of everything. 1567 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,080 So, you know, he got paid up the wazoo. 20 million bucks a year. 1568 01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,360 Yeah, he's got all power. You can say whatever you want. 1569 01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:49,160 Oh, Shane's still there. It's horrible show. 1570 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,920 We all know it. Everything he wants. 1571 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,480 They acquiesced, as they should have. 1572 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:58,280 And he also has a top five draft pick in a draft that's pretty 1573 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,840 damn good. This draft is going to be really 1574 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,320 good. Now, from a quarterback 1575 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,040 perspective, not so good, which of course impacts The Jets, but 1576 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,120 the things that the Giants need, Giants can go a multitude of 1577 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,080 ways here. Now, let me just give you and 1578 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,440 I'll hit you with some names too. 1579 01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:14,320 And I'll tell you what I actually think is the the 1580 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,080 strongest part of the draft. But I am a believer and and a 1581 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,680 lot of you disagree with this, right? 1582 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,080 Here's how I see it. If there's a guy at a certain 1583 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:30,560 position that you don't deem important enough to draft that 1584 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,640 high, right, well, don't take him. 1585 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,920 And a lot of this is rooted back to the Saquon stuff, which I do 1586 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,120 think is more applicable to a running back, right? 1587 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,080 But there's a player that, by the way, I would be OK. 1588 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,160 I would be more than OK, though. I don't think they'll do it. 1589 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,400 I would actually love The Jets to take Caleb Downs at #2 I 1590 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,240 really would. Or if you want to trade back a 1591 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,200 spot or two and take him, like to me, there's no reason why the 1592 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,640 Giants shouldn't take Caleb Downs. 1593 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,800 Now you got to go through the process. 1594 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,760 I get it. You want another wide receiver 1595 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,440 opposite neighbors get it. You want another old lineman. 1596 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,480 I I get that you're not going to go edge rusher. 1597 01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:07,960 You got enough at that point. So to me, for the Giants, it 1598 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,640 really boils down to, are you going to look at the safety 1599 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,960 downs? Are you going to look at one of 1600 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,200 the couple of receivers and I'll tell you about them in a minute 1601 01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:17,080 or do you go online? All right, you manure is a free 1602 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,160 agent and obviously young quarterback never hurts to have 1603 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,600 that guy. I just don't get it like and I 1604 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:25,760 do. I do think running back is a 1605 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,880 little different. If Caleb Downs is what I think 1606 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,040 he's going to be and I I think what a lot of football people 1607 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,320 think he's going to be and that is a ball Hawking game changing 1608 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,280 field flipping safety from minute one. 1609 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,480 Who you plug in there and say, all right, this kids going to be 1610 01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,840 an all Pro and it's going to be a Pro bowler maybe the first 1611 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,040 year he's going to be an old pro 5-6 times in his career if he's 1612 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,760 healthy. That's how good I think Caleb 1613 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,560 Downs is. So let me ask you this. 1614 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,880 If you think that that's the case, why wouldn't you take him? 1615 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,560 Well, it's too early for a safety. 1616 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,680 No, it's not. Not if he's changing the entire 1617 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,600 complexion of your defense. Think about now they need 1618 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,920 another corner as well, another linebacker. 1619 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,560 Like they're not perfect. That's why they're they're 1620 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,760 picking 5th overall, right? But if you have a guy on that 1621 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,880 third level who's going to be so good that's only going to make 1622 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,360 the first level, which is the Giants defensive strength 1623 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,040 better, why in the world would you not be amenable to making 1624 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,280 that pitch? Why? 1625 01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:22,280 Because it's too early for a safety. 1626 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:25,960 Hey, just because The Jets took Jamal Adams at six doesn't mean 1627 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,520 that it can't #1 Jamal Adams couldn't cover anybody, couldn't 1628 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,760 run a lick, you know? And they also took another, they 1629 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,680 took another safety May, they took back-to-back safeties, 1630 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,160 probably advising the Giants not to do that. 1631 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,120 That's probably not the prudent thing to do. 1632 01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:43,120 But this kid is the real deal, man. 1633 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,920 I think he is absolutely phenomenal now. 1634 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:51,280 I think the three best positions in the NFL draft and and I say 1635 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,360 this because Horribaugh even even said he's like, yeah, he's 1636 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,840 like, I love the kid. And he which was interesting. 1637 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,320 He's very, very forward. You know, generally you don't 1638 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,720 you aren't that specific about players. 1639 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,320 Now, Mike asked MM asked him, asked him and did a good job and 1640 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,200 Horribaugh was comfortable with Mike and they had a good 1641 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,640 conversation. Maybe, you know, maybe in 1642 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,040 hindsight, John's like, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have divulged 1643 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,640 that much. Well, you did and I thought it 1644 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,880 was great. So he was talking about him like 1645 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,640 just like name specific, position specific. 1646 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,800 And I love that. I, I, I think that the 1647 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,280 transparency and the honesty, like the lack of John Harbaugh 1648 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,000 being on guard with the New York media is going to be phenomenal. 1649 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,360 Because everybody else, you know, whether it was Dabel, 1650 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,240 whether it was Joe Judge, whether it was Macadoofus. 1651 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,840 Macadoofus. I remember the first time Sal 1652 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,760 called him that, that Macadoo, whether it was him, like all 1653 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,440 these guys were terrified to say anything. 1654 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,760 Now, Joe Judge eventually started talking. 1655 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,440 Then ironically, once he started talking, he actually talked 1656 01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,880 himself out of the job. That's why Joe Judge wound up 1657 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,360 getting fired. They were actually predisposed 1658 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,920 to bringing it back for a year. And then Joe, just for the last 1659 01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,240 week or two. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. 1660 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,240 All right, We got to get rid of you. 1661 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,080 So, you know, I guess there is there a fine line that you don't 1662 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,400 want to cross there. But John Harbaugh can do 1663 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,320 whatever he wants. So I think that this draft. 1664 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,600 Right is there are three positions that jump out to me 1665 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,880 that are by far the best that of course every position has stars. 1666 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,480 But you talking about and no order, You talking about edge 1667 01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:21,320 rushers, you talking about wide receivers and he talking about 1668 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:26,200 to me those are the top 2. I can't even say safety, which 1669 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,160 is even more reason why if you love downs and you're thinking 1670 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,600 about taking a safety like the drop between Downs and the next 1671 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,240 overall. Now this is subjective. 1672 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,560 Let me give you an example. So right now I love PFF shout 1673 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,480 out to those guys. They're not always right, but 1674 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,000 it's a good intelligent read on what players are doing, You 1675 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,320 know, snap to snap evaluation. I love it. 1676 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,720 I look at it as the Bible, but I think it's a great tool and they 1677 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,680 really do good work out there. So get shout out to them. 1678 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,480 So PFF has Caleb Downs right now as their number 5th #5 rated 1679 01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,560 prospect, right? The next highest safety is 1680 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:03,520 number 35 overall in rank. So you are talking and think 1681 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,920 about all the players that are going to go before the next 1682 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,440 safety. That doesn't mean that somebody 1683 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,680 can't view that safety in a more. 1684 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,320 I think it's from a small school too for in a more favorable 1685 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,840 light. And he goes late first round or 1686 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,760 early 2nd. But if things kind of hold true, 1687 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,760 Downs is definitely going top ten. 1688 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,520 I think he's going top 7 for sure. 1689 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,080 I would take him top five and I would even maybe take him to two 1690 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,360 if I'm The Jets, as I said. But there's a good chance that 1691 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:34,120 next safety is late second round and and possibly 3rd, right. 1692 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,000 The other positions don't have that. 1693 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,080 So if you love downs and you've got a premium pick and you don't 1694 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,840 need a quarterback like the Raiders do, you take him and you 1695 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,360 run to the bank and you love what you did. 1696 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,040 Whereas you look at the edge rushers, whether it's a Ruben 1697 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:50,640 Bayne Bailey from Texas Tech, probably more ready, I think 1698 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,800 than the other guys. Howell, somebody from an A&M, 1699 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:59,240 the kid Falk from Auburn, you've got who else there at least 4 1700 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,120 edge. Rogers, definitely, definitely 1701 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:02,440 Bane. We saw him in the championship. 1702 01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:05,120 Definitely Bailey from minute one to Texas Tech and even 1703 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,400 Howell. I think those are probably the 1704 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,600 three best you get to the wide receivers, whether it's a 1705 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,240 Carnell tape, whether it's Jordan Tyson from ASU, whether 1706 01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,680 it's a Denzel Boston, he's from UW, whether it's Makai Lemon 1707 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,600 from USC and they they all have different profiles there too. 1708 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,440 All those guys are going round one like Carnell Tate 63. 1709 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,480 You look at somebody like Jordan, he's from Ohio State, 1710 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,720 Jordan Tyson 6 to $1.95. You look at somebody like 1711 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,000 Boston, 64 to 10, you look at somebody like Lemon. 1712 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,880 Totally different physical profile, 511 but stout, almost 1713 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,040 200. So there's so many options 1714 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,600 there. I absolutely love downs and I 1715 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:48,240 think that you know, if and I'm not worried about the Giants 1716 01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:52,160 being manipulated, like their mindset being manipulated by 1717 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,160 what the fans are saying. Can't take a safety at 5. 1718 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,200 It's too early. You take the best one that you 1719 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,000 can take right now. The other thing too, I throw a 1720 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,080 little jets on the table. I don't think that they'll take 1721 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,080 downs at 2. I think they'll go edge rush at 1722 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,800 2 or maybe linebacker. All right, kid from Ohio State. 1723 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,120 And then you got to go offense. Like if The Jets don't, whatever 1724 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,080 order it is, I'll let them figure this out. 1725 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,360 There's still a lot of evaluation, you know, the 1726 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,680 combine, etc. But you got #2 you got #16 you 1727 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,840 got needs everywhere. Like to me, you need to hit 1728 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,360 home. You like the second pick overall 1729 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,680 has to be a home run. An absolute stud, no doubt. 1730 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:36,040 Day one game wrecker on defense. All right, I'm not taking a 1731 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,760 receiver to and then a #16 you know, of course there's trade up 1732 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,040 options and all sorts of variations that could go down. 1733 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,240 But in my optimal world for The Jets, I'm walking away with 1734 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,760 somebody who is, this is, is a disruptor on defense. 1735 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,040 And then somebody opposite Garrett Wilson at 16, that's 1736 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,120 what I'm doing. The pick you got back in the 1737 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,960 sauce trade. I want a receiver. 1738 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:57,400 All right. I do now. 1739 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:02,080 I'd also be very interested, very intrigued by if Muji was 1740 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,480 say, to go from #2 to number. I don't know, just throwing 1741 01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:09,320 stuff out, four, 7-8, whatever it might be and get another 1742 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:13,040 first round pick in the process. Now you can, now you can get 2 1743 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,920 defensive leads and then you could go obviously you could go 1744 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,320 with, with, with, with, with a receiver somewhere along the 1745 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,520 line. The good thing is when you 1746 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,560 stink, you need a lot. And I think additionally for 1747 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,000 these teams who both stink, although I think the Giants have 1748 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,520 certainly better coach and I think it easier bridge to become 1749 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,080 very competitive here, at least they have a quarterback and a 1750 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,920 coach just right now have neither that we believe in. 1751 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,360 But The Jets have a ton of capital and they got a lot of 1752 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,720 resources. The money, 73 bucks and free 1753 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,520 agent money, top three in the NFL. 1754 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,320 Like I know there's going to have so many football 1755 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,080 discussions and I can't wait for it. 1756 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,480 I can't wait for the draft. I can't wait. 1757 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,360 One of the things that we're going to do on this, I can't 1758 01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,520 tell you about it yet. I hinted about it on Friday. 1759 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,880 It's going to be massive with a massive company that is going to 1760 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,720 be incredible for draft coverage. 1761 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,440 So pumped up about that. Fully believe it's going to go 1762 01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:08,040 down where we had a conference call on Friday, so on Thursday 1763 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,280 and I told you guys about a Friday. 1764 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,720 Good things are coming all right and I love the draft now, but 1765 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,200 you do have to look at this you've and I know it's 1766 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,840 subjective like take the receivers. 1767 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,760 You could look at one guy and say, you know, that's the guy 1768 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,240 who's going to be thirteen 1400 yards, you know, 90 plus 1769 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,680 catches. You know, when he maybe not as a 1770 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,640 rookie, but you know what I mean, 8 to 12 touchdown stud. 1771 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,480 And then another guy, another team could look at that guy and 1772 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:35,000 say, yeah, but is he going to get is he going to get jammed 1773 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,560 off the line of scrimmage? Or you know, he's got some 1774 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,440 height, but he's really thin. How's he pulled out? 1775 01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:42,000 Like there's obviously going to be count their opinions here, 1776 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,080 but I think the general consensus and I agree with this 1777 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,360 is that it's an incredibly strong wide receiver group. 1778 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:54,000 It's an incredibly strong, you know, defensive around edge and 1779 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,960 even a couple linebackers very strong. 1780 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,040 And I think it's a very strong offensive line group. 1781 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,440 Giants don't need a Jets don't need no lineman. 1782 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,280 Giants very well might. So again, that's not to say they 1783 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,320 have to take Caleb Downs at 5. I'm just reacting to what John 1784 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,560 was saying over the weekend with with Francesa and I think that 1785 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,960 will be a home run. I love him and you have to 1786 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,040 understand if you really have dire needed safety like both 1787 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,200 teams do, then you got to say, well, if this was a really 1788 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,320 strong safety class, even though Downs would be far and away 1789 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,280 better than anybody in my opinion. 1790 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,040 But when you've got such a gap between the next best safety 1791 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,240 that that could that that's that should on some level at least be 1792 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,400 maybe additional thought and incentive to take a maybe a 1793 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,480 little higher than ordinarily you would, because once downs is 1794 01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:43,760 off the board, the next I'm not saying the next safety is not 1795 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,520 going to be good. You know, whatever. 1796 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,240 So there's going to be some no name out of nowhere. 1797 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,120 I know how it works, but going in and using a logic and using 1798 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,400 evaluations, massive gap. Don't have that at receiver. 1799 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,680 Don't have that at edge. Don't have that at all line. 1800 01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:02,280 You have it at safety. All right, so let me see here. 1801 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,680 Yeah, I do think the Giants can go online. 1802 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,440 I do, and they will. And by the way, they've only got 1803 01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:11,280 2 picks in the top 100, so the need for the Giants to bang, and 1804 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,520 I mean absolutely pop is, is absolutely massive. 1805 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:16,520 Oh, pardon me, I put that up there. 1806 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,240 I'm sorry about that. At Boss Girl 8. 1807 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,360 What's up, boss girl? How you doing? 1808 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,720 BT? What if we signed a solid wide? 1809 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,760 Talking about the Giants. OK, I think it's a Giants here. 1810 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,360 Yeah. I, I, I think he's talking about 1811 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:31,360 The Jets. I assume. 1812 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,080 What if we signed a solid wide receiver in free agency? 1813 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,040 Dobbs, Robinson, Jennings, Pittman, if he's released, takes 1814 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,240 pressure off taking a first round wide receiver. 1815 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,680 Reese is giant. Jets very well could take him at 1816 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,720 #2 very well could take Reese. Mahal State gonna be an all pro 1817 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,560 edge rusher in the NFL. Take him at number 20. 1818 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,520 So this is about The Jets, OK, Yeah. 1819 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,240 I mean, I think there's a lot of ways to do this year. 1820 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:58,000 But the if, if you believe that the the, and again, strength in 1821 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,840 numbers, the abundance of very intriguing wide receiver 1822 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:06,000 possibilities, if you think one of those players is going to be 1823 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,200 better than somebody you can get in free agency. 1824 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,520 And by the way, it's going to be cheaper because if you get 1825 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,920 somebody in free agency as a wide receiver, unless it's, you 1826 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,000 know, on a real team friendly deal, which some of those names 1827 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,160 you probably wouldn't get, you know, a guy who's taking 16th 1828 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,240 overall in the draft, even though it's a first round pick, 1829 01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:23,320 the money's not going to be incredibly putative. 1830 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,160 Where from a free agent perspective, I don't like I, I 1831 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:33,160 don't love using free agency for for big, big, big ticket 1832 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,880 contracts, unless it's like a guy who's just for some reason, 1833 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,000 you know, shakes free from for some crazy reason who's just 1834 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,800 entering his prime. And you do see that once in a 1835 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,200 while. But generally in free agency 1836 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,080 baseball too, you know, you pay for too high of a percentage of 1837 01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,440 what that player already did in the NFL or already did a Major 1838 01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:55,160 League Baseball. Like, you know, I obviously a 15 1839 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,240 year deal for Soto's ridiculous, but yeah, teams willing to pay 1840 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,680 it, including the Yankees, you know, a little shorter the Mets, 1841 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,720 but the Yankees came correct. And he was getting a ton of 1842 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,960 money no matter what because he's a great hitter. 1843 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,920 But you know, also because he came up at the age of 1844 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:16,600 19192021222324 last year. He was 25 with the Yankees, 26 1845 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,960 last year. Like that's that's eight years 1846 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,040 of, of incredible varying degrees of production, but 1847 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,840 incredible production. And it it, it just illuminates 1848 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,600 that player's star. Are you telling me that when you 1849 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:33,200 sign somebody to a 15 year deal at that age that you, you, it's 1850 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,800 going to work out Well, No, it's not. 1851 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,280 And you understand that. You bite the bullet on the back 1852 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,120 end to get the production on the front end and you know it. 1853 01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,120 It's somebody like Soto. You can justify that, but 1854 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,760 there's too many players in the NFL where that happens. 1855 01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,680 And it's obviously a shorter shelf life given the injury and 1856 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,280 given the attrition of the NFL. So, you know, I get excited when 1857 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,440 you have a lot of free agent money because I've referenced it 1858 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,760 quite a bit. Jets have 7374 million bucks, 1859 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,040 you know, among the top three in football. 1860 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,520 It sounds good, but you've got to be very judicious in how you 1861 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,360 spend it. You don't just want to go, you 1862 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,040 know, two big ticket items and then have, you know, you want to 1863 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,480 just plug in. You got to get here's the bottom 1864 01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:12,040 line. You got to get backups off the 1865 01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,760 field. That's that's the starting point 1866 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,200 for The Jets. The Jets had too many scrubs 1867 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,760 starting. So what happened was especially 1868 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,160 when you traded Q and you traded sauce, which which I like, but 1869 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:26,280 it left a massive void, which I'm OK with bigger picture, But 1870 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,160 week to week it was brutal. You had guys who were backups 1871 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,640 then obviously being thrust into starting roles. 1872 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,800 Okay, that happens quite a bit. Injury, trades, whatever 1873 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,680 defections, free agency guys got to step up. 1874 01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,560 But the real issue for The Jets was that they had taxi squad 1875 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,040 guys who were then elevated to the roster. 1876 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,480 And because the backups were were now starters, you had taxi 1877 01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:52,360 guys who are becoming backups who were playing too much like a 1878 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,200 nickel and dime packages. What are we doing? 1879 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,760 Like that's untenable. You cannot compete at that 1880 01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:58,680 level. And that's why The Jets had the 1881 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,640 worst point disparity in any month in the history of the NFL, 1882 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,920 cuz you had guys who shouldn't be in the league out there. 1883 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,520 So I think really, while it's and I'm sure The Jets are going 1884 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,960 to get one massive free agent, there's no they might get the 1885 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,720 center from Baltimore Lynn Baumble, which I'd be, which I'd 1886 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,840 be very OK with. But I am I am more concerned 1887 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:20,320 with just getting substandard players off the field. 1888 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,440 OK, drafting better and having those frontline players assume 1889 01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:29,280 roles and then now having the backups, you know, be real, you 1890 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,240 know, friend starters on different teams, on good teams. 1891 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,360 And and the and the way you accent the roster with free 1892 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,920 agency is to bring in guys who maybe were, you know, mid mid 1893 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,200 level starters elsewhere. Don't pay him the stars, but 1894 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,240 have them for a year or so. Come in, fill some gaps and at 1895 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,320 least be solid, serviceable pros. 1896 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,400 Like, I don't know if Muji's thinking that. 1897 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:51,720 That's kind of what I'm thinking. 1898 01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,040 All right, let's go here at Timmy Thomas, O58-O. 1899 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,840 Tim, what's up? What do you see is the biggest 1900 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,560 draft they need to address on draft on day one outside of 1901 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,720 quarterback guys, you got to specify the team because we're 1902 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:04,960 not just talking Jets and Giants. 1903 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,480 We're talking about, I mean, right now we're talking 1904 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:08,880 primarily Jets and Giants. But when you get into the draft, 1905 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,280 you got to specify the team. I'm assuming that you mean 1906 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,320 quarterback, obviously, because The Jets don't have what the 1907 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,600 Giants do. The biggest draft day needs to 1908 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,080 address for the on day one. Well, I gave it to you. 1909 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:25,360 The Jets have to walk away with a massively disruptive defensive 1910 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,480 force. And if he's on the third level 1911 01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:30,320 of downs, great. If it's Ruben Bayne on the edge, 1912 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:31,800 great. Or somebody else on the edge, 1913 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,200 great. If it's if it's Reese, a 1914 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,480 linebacker, and he pans out, great. 1915 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:42,040 But it has to be a frontline defensive stud #1 the second 1916 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,280 way. Now listen, say, if you do get a 1917 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,840 wide receiver in free agency and some of the receivers that you 1918 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,360 covered are gone by 16 and you can't move up whatever. 1919 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,960 And there's a one or two defensive players that 1920 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,360 unexpectedly slip and you love and you're going to be married 1921 01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,280 to your board and you got to trust Muji and it worked. 1922 01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,840 You know, hopefully it works out and you go defense, defense. 1923 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,720 I'm I'm not going to go nuts. But then you'd have to obviously 1924 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,720 bring in a receiver with free agency. 1925 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,320 But again, ideally, Tim, what I would do is defense receiver. 1926 01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,080 That's that's what I would do. You don't. 1927 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,000 And that one of the things that's advantageous here and the 1928 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,280 Giants have a little bit of a different approach or should, is 1929 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,800 that The Jets for once don't have to draft the lineman. 1930 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,720 They could go out and do some other stuff at Thomas Rossi, 1931 01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:29,560 66427-BT of the man always got my support. 1932 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,840 I appreciate that, man. Thank you very much. 1933 01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,080 I feel the support. Thank you very much, Thomas. 1934 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,520 Thank you, dude. I feel it. 1935 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:36,760 I love it. It's awesome. 1936 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,840 These reflecting lights are, are, are driving me nuts here. 1937 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,520 I I can't tell you. I can't say it looked different 1938 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,720 to start the show. Yeah, they're hanging from the 1939 01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:49,520 ceiling. But again, guys, I live by the 1940 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,920 mantra focus on what you can control. 1941 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,080 I can't control that. The things from Amazon didn't 1942 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,240 get here yet. You know, I can't control 1943 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,120 certain things. I can, but you know, I'm also, I 1944 01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,640 can't control the timeline. I think of certain things. 1945 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,840 So I'm really excited to see, you know, the backdrop when 1946 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,640 it's, you know, when it's fully popping and there's not, you 1947 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,160 know, blinding. I got to start wearing eye black 1948 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,640 on the show at some point here. That's I'm going to have to do 1949 01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,280 Jay or I'm going to wear the eye black. 1950 01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,240 Avery Summit. BT Dolphins just released Tyree 1951 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,560 Kill coming off an injury, but Jets can use any wide receiver 1952 01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,360 talent alongside Wilson. I mean, yeah, I am whatever. 1953 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,920 I mean, Tyree kill, I don't know. 1954 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,960 I mean, he's a disruptive force. He's a pain in the ass. 1955 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,920 He runs like the wind. Will he still run the way he 1956 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,000 used to? He'll probably retain most of 1957 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,480 that speed. I'm not incredibly worried about 1958 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:38,280 that. I mean, you know, I you know, if 1959 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,080 you Tyree kill, you probably want to go somewhere you're 1960 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,120 going to win. I would think right away. 1961 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:47,080 Now, I'll tell you what I I also do think that the situation 1962 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:52,760 matters if you want to tell me that rather than spend because 1963 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,680 again, the giants only have two picks in the 1st 100 where The 1964 01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,440 Jets have a lot more than that. So they could be more, you know, 1965 01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:03,680 more specific to the needs there based on the numbers. 1966 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:08,600 If you want to tell me that John Harbaugh tells, you know, Marin 1967 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,400 Tisch, hey, listen, I can make it work with this guy. 1968 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,680 He can help neighbors, gets back, take the top off whatever, 1969 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,840 loose in the box a little bit, help out Jackson. 1970 01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:20,000 And John Harbaugh was like, yeah, I want Tyree kill and the 1971 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,360 money's manageable. Sure. 1972 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,200 I just don't like going to The Jets. 1973 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,120 You've got to have some stability and they have none. 1974 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,800 I mean, and if you're Tyree kill, why the hell you want? 1975 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,120 Why would you want to go to The Jets? 1976 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,760 Like in Tyree kills mind, he's thinking one more big payday. 1977 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,480 This might not be it. It might be like a make good 1978 01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:38,440 contract. You know, one year. 1979 01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:40,840 I don't know, whatever the guaranteed money is incentive 2 1980 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:45,840 years, whatever the third year, you know, team control and just 1981 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,160 get rid, void it, whatever. You know, the, the I don't even 1982 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,840 know how these NFL contracts work and, and really neither do 1983 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,680 you. So I'm speaking in nebulous 1984 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,040 terms. Basically, it's not incredibly 1985 01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,160 burdensome financially and you know, and he's willing to take 1986 01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,720 it for sure, but you'd have to think he'd want to go somewhere 1987 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,360 where the quarterback is good to get him the ball and the offense 1988 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,800 is going to be humming. So that after the one year prove 1989 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,120 it, his stats are back up and then he re enters the free agent 1990 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:14,040 market the year after and there's a greater demand, you 1991 01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,560 know, keeps his nose clean. He's healthy. 1992 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,680 You know, he could cut he could still run by people. 1993 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,400 I would like if I'm him, that's probably what I would want to 1994 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,880 do. But I I I just don't see that 1995 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,040 for the for the New York Jets. Why in the world we want to do 1996 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:28,560 that? This was something we hit 1997 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,280 before. Oh, wow. 1998 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:35,360 OK. At Z Williams 2283, the Kareem 1999 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,320 ABA stories already been called into question on the Mad Dog 2000 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:41,920 show with a guest. Not totally sure it's true. 2001 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,120 I didn't hear it. I don't know. 2002 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:44,880 Yeah, interesting. I'm. 2003 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,400 I'm sure that'll be written about later on. 2004 01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:50,880 What I'm talking about is I started watching soul power on 2005 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,840 on prime, which is great. Like everything about the AB as 2006 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,480 cool, the style, the uniform, I got a couple of the throwback 2007 01:36:57,480 --> 01:36:59,480 ABA shirts. I've just always been really 2008 01:36:59,480 --> 01:37:01,280 intrigued by the AB as before my time. 2009 01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,640 And it's like the the legacy in this lasting impression by by 2010 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,040 plus, not to mention like the Pacers and Denver and and other 2011 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,480 ABA teams that obviously joined the the NBA. 2012 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,360 It's got some roots there. But the story that that tweet is 2013 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:22,680 where that text is referring to is that George Mikan, who was 2014 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,840 the commissioner of the ABA at that point when Kareem was 2015 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,080 coming out, when Lou El Cindor at that point was coming out of 2016 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,920 UCLA 69, I think it was where, you know, he was open to going 2017 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,560 to the ABA, wasn't really committed. 2018 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,120 It wasn't, didn't have to be in the NBA. 2019 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,320 And he basically told the NBA one chance, one offer ABA, one 2020 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,520 chance, one offer. Man of principle. 2021 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,160 He's not going to sit there and go back and forth and play the 2022 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,240 game. And the NBA gave their offer. 2023 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,040 The ABA gave theirs, but they had a check and and they 2024 01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,240 actually had the check. So I again, I, I, I didn't hear 2025 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,000 what was said on on Chris's show. 2026 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,120 I'm sure it's interesting. I don't know if it's true. 2027 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,520 I'm not refuting it. I just don't know what was said. 2028 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:06,360 But I did see on the documentary the actual check made out for 2029 01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:10,760 $1,000,000 to Lou Alcindor. I so I, I really don't know. 2030 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,040 I'm sure we'll get some news on that a little bit later, but 2031 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,520 it's, it's absolutely worth a watch. 2032 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,320 Yeah. And Rick Barry, man, he he come. 2033 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,240 And Rick Barry's one tough dude, man. 2034 01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:21,880 He is a tough guy to get along with. 2035 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:27,000 He is just AI want to be careful here. 2036 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:28,720 I'm not going to call him a jerk. 2037 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,400 He's just, he's just a tough nut to crack. 2038 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,840 I've interviewed him a couple times when I was out in San 2039 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,200 Francisco, obviously played for the Warriors. 2040 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:47,120 I sat next to him at the Palace of Auburn Hills one night when I 2041 01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,680 was working in Detroit. And his and his son, his son 2042 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,520 John was on the Pistons and he was one of them that a really 2043 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,480 good bench and he had, he got a lot of run. 2044 01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:01,200 He's a pretty good player for the Pistons, and he was at the 2045 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,280 game and, like, he's just a tough dude. 2046 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,600 He was like, right now, I remember he was eating peanuts 2047 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,840 and I guess he got a press credential because that's where 2048 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,160 I was. So I was courtside and Rick 2049 01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,320 Barry's right next to me and he's eating these peanuts or 2050 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,800 walnuts, whatever he's eating, just throw them on the floor. 2051 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,920 Like, I mean, I know people do that in the stands, like at 2052 01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:19,880 Yankee. I do. 2053 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,600 I do it at Yankee games, Right? Yeah. 2054 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,200 I don't know if you were supposed to do that where the 2055 01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,200 press is sitting, which that's not why I'm saying he's a tough 2056 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:32,040 guy to get along with, but just just tough guy to get along 2057 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,080 with. Let me put it that way. 2058 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:38,000 Not not very congenial, you know, set in his ways, very 2059 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,200 direct. One thing I do appreciate. 2060 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,880 He's got no time for bullshit like Rick. 2061 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,640 Rick Barry is going to tell you what he's thinking. 2062 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,680 But boy, you can tell as as you watch the the documentary on the 2063 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,280 league, he is a guy who was, you know, that's a little tricky to 2064 01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:54,880 get along with there. What's this year? 2065 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,240 Loving the logos. We got Timmy Thomas again. 2066 01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,840 Can't wait for the merch. Yep, I appreciate that. 2067 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,000 Again, whatever, you guys know the deal by now. 2068 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:02,880 Whatever. I'm not going to keep 2069 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,160 apologizing for it. I love the logo. 2070 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,720 Came out sick. The lights reflecting is what it 2071 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:08,280 is. Yeah. 2072 01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:09,800 And then the merch will be great. 2073 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,200 So you know, if you guys are new to the show, I'll run through 2074 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:16,240 this really quick here. We have had two interviews with 2075 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:21,200 potential merchandise companies. Now, I would say as we start to 2076 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,240 build out the show again, you go back to December 22nd, which was 2077 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,440 the first show. I was in my basement and the 2078 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:29,120 Wi-Fi was bad. I didn't have the microphone, 2079 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,120 didn't have the stream Cam, all these things I've told you 2080 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:32,760 about. But if you knew, I don't want to 2081 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,960 assume that you that you know all this, right? 2082 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,400 And then we built it and then I came into my Home Office and 2083 01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,640 then I got this microphone, then I got a stream Cam. 2084 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,920 So obviously the clarity was better, the audio is better. 2085 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,840 The then I wanted to do something with the background 2086 01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,440 and you know, I had the Mattingly jersey, I had the 2087 01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:51,520 bookshelves and then I had this installed last week and now I've 2088 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:55,000 got to do something with the lighting and lighting should be 2089 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,040 resolved today. I mean, I would, I would imagine 2090 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,200 the stuff is on the doorstep now and I'm going to apply it. 2091 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,080 I can't, I can't wait to do it right after the show. 2092 01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:03,880 So that's coming. So we won't have the glare 2093 01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,160 tomorrow. I think the two things that will 2094 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,520 happen last and I've gotten questions on the phone and the 2095 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,600 merch. I think the merch will happen 2096 01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,520 before the phone. I think I've already told you 2097 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,640 we've secured the phone line. It's just a much more detailed 2098 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,520 process. It is. 2099 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,840 That's something J and Rod, J, Rod and I have to really work 2100 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,920 through. So we've at least secured a 2101 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,760 number. It will happen. 2102 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,320 I don't have a hard date for you. 2103 01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,920 If I had to give you a little neighborhood when I think the 2104 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,920 merch online store is open, what is it the for? 2105 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:44,560 5th February 16th March 16th I, I would say outside chance Saint 2106 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,000 Patty's Day. I, I would think that, that 2107 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,400 that's fairly attainable. That's fairly doable. 2108 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,320 And, you know, we'll start small, get some hoodies going, 2109 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,360 get some teas, get some beanies, get some hats. 2110 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,760 What do you like the trucker hat, you know, got to go and, 2111 01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,120 and oh, and of course the mugs. So I would think that those will 2112 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:00,800 be the first five things that'll be out there. 2113 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,120 And then if there's more demand, you know, whether it's still 2114 01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:08,800 golf Tees or divot replacers or golf balls or, you know, golf 2115 01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:13,240 shirts or whatever else it might be, maybe even like I got a 2116 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:14,720 couple of you say like bumper stickers. 2117 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,200 Who puts bumper stickers on cars like bumper? 2118 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,280 I don't even know if I'd waste time on that. 2119 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,640 I've seen a few of you in the comments like, Hey, I put it on 2120 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,720 my car. I know maybe magnets is the way 2121 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:27,480 to go. That's the way to go because, 2122 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,000 you know, you do see like some schools and some club teams on, 2123 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,560 on some automobiles, but I feel like bumper stickers were a 2124 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,600 1980s thing when everybody drove a dump of a car. 2125 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,080 Well, at least we kind of did and everybody on my street did. 2126 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,320 So you didn't mind putting a bumper sticker on there? 2127 01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,120 You just didn't mind. I remember when I was in, when I 2128 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:53,760 was in college, my first car, Oh my God, was a 1985 white Chevy 2129 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,520 Cavalier, right? And, and then eventually my dad 2130 01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,880 always said he gets scholarship money, We'll get you a car. 2131 01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:02,120 And eventually, like then I got, I got the new car, right. 2132 01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:05,120 Nothing incredibly fancy, but it was, it was cool. 2133 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,960 But the first car was an 85 Chevy Cavalier that my dad got 2134 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,920 from his buddy for like 750 bucks just to kick around. 2135 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,200 And I mean, I drove this thing into the ground and it had no 2136 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,360 style. I'm like, you know, it's 85 2137 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,320 Chevy Cavalier or something. Like I got at least pimp this 2138 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:25,040 thing up a little bit. So I went and got God, I got 2139 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:29,760 these like white plastic things that you put on the windshield 2140 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:34,280 wipers and it didn't impact the ability to clean the windshield. 2141 01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:37,000 I just thought it looked cool. I I don't know what I thought it 2142 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,760 was building there. Then I tried to put on my own 2143 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,720 tinted windows. It I put them on. 2144 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,520 It looked awful. Then I had hanging from the 2145 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,720 rearview mirror. You know, I had like the Nike 2146 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,720 just do it sign and like a baseball that a little baseball 2147 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,600 bat. And then this part was actually 2148 01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,760 cool. I had a World Series from the 2149 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,760 that one of my former coaches gave me Ron Hunt, who used to 2150 01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:03,240 play for the Mets, gave me an 85 World Series ball in the 2151 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,840 Cardinals, right? And I actually drilled a hole in 2152 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:13,080 it and affixed it to the shifter and when I would shift, you 2153 01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,920 know, reverse neutral drive, it was actually a baseball. 2154 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,000 That was actually and I brought that one to the new car too, 2155 01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,680 because the new car was a 5 speed. 2156 01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:22,480 It was awesome. It was it was actually an 2157 01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:24,560 official World Series ball. I loved it. 2158 01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,200 That thing was that thing look cool. 2159 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:27,360 Everything else. Wow. 2160 01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:29,000 Although I guess back then it was kind of cool. 2161 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,760 And I remember I had a couple of the bumper stickers I had on. 2162 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,200 I think it was Howard Stern K rock. 2163 01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,880 And then I had a sticker Nike just do it. 2164 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,680 It looked like it was like the Pimp mobile, you know? 2165 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,000 But back then even you'd see bumper stickers. 2166 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,080 Like my grandparents went to Florida and all they brought me 2167 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,800 back was this stinking bottle bumper sticker or I remember 2168 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:55,240 seeing a lot if Virginia's for lovers or now you still 2169 01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,160 certainly see some political stuff, you know, you know, 2170 01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:58,960 whether for a president or whatever it might be. 2171 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:03,280 I don't feel like the bumper sticker market J Rod is is is 2172 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:06,080 anything that would really have stuff flying off the shelves on 2173 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,640 the BT. Yeah, Am I wrong? 2174 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,520 Depending on like, I don't know how many Subarus you got in your 2175 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,480 audience, maybe that's how many bumper stickers there'd be. 2176 01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:17,080 But I mean, I don't know how popular they they are. 2177 01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:20,680 I'd, I'd, I'd say, you know, I'm seeing also in the comments, you 2178 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,320 know, those like two or three people who said they wanted the 2179 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,560 bumper stick. Wait, hold on. 2180 01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,640 You cut out. Yeah, you cut. 2181 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:28,280 Hold on. You cut out. 2182 01:45:28,440 --> 01:45:30,400 You cut out. Hello, Hello. 2183 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,440 There we go. You got your comments guys? 2184 01:45:32,440 --> 01:45:36,320 Yeah, I haven't seen too much popularity for bumper stickers 2185 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,520 as recent like when I was in school, maybe a couple people 2186 01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,120 would do like the S on their back window. 2187 01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,720 But yeah, I don't know for me even that's kinda little auto 2188 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,920 the orange on your back window like yeah, you know, it's. 2189 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,320 A little bright. It's a little bright. 2190 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:51,560 I know, I know. I remember too. 2191 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,360 And you'll and again, you'll see these magnets here and there. 2192 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,400 You'll see a lot of like, you know, my son was the student of 2193 01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,440 the month or my daughter is on the Dean's list. 2194 01:46:02,440 --> 01:46:04,280 I mean, what do we do? Put that on the fridge? 2195 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:05,560 We got to put that on the bumper sticker. 2196 01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:06,640 Come on. I don't. 2197 01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:07,680 Yeah, go ahead. No. 2198 01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,560 Well, I guess what's popular now, the one bumper sticker, is 2199 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,200 just student driver keep back. My God. 2200 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,640 Oh my. Driver slow up and you know 2201 01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,120 what? Maybe that one makes sense. 2202 01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,040 But yeah, other than that. Say I didn't make sure I didn't 2203 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,400 miss anything here today. Hang on, hang on, hang on. 2204 01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,280 Yeah, man, I think we got a lot of great content today. 2205 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,640 What is your overall philosophy on, or at least the reaction to 2206 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,520 my thoughts here, Jay, about the NBA All Star weekend? 2207 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,160 Like, and before you answer that, I I know it's different 2208 01:46:39,440 --> 01:46:41,840 and I know it's different. Number one, it's just different, 2209 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,520 but it's also different like through the eyes of a kid. 2210 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:48,240 Like I remember watching the slam dunk contest as a kid and 2211 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,240 then going out my backyard and trying to replicate Jordan and 2212 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,560 Dominique Kenny Smith. I remember Kenny Smith had a 2213 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,000 dunk where his back would be to the basket. 2214 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,760 He was. He threw the ball behind his, 2215 01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,120 threw his legs off the backboard and flushed it. 2216 01:47:01,480 --> 01:47:02,720 Yeah. And we could actually do that 2217 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:04,760 because I had a low hoop in my yard, as I said. 2218 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:09,960 So like, that was always fun. But the lack of creativity and 2219 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:11,560 there's only so many dunks that you could do. 2220 01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,400 We're almost desensitized to it. Tough. 2221 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,560 It's you. Like, when did you stop loving 2222 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,840 the All Star weekend? Because I stopped a long time 2223 01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:20,720 ago. Man, yeah, I mean, OK, the ones 2224 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,440 I've watched in my lifetime that were truly interesting, I think 2225 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:28,520 the obviously the 2016 dunk contest, Aaron Gordon, Zach 2226 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,320 Levine, I thought that was a great one. 2227 01:47:30,440 --> 01:47:35,200 Good dunk, 2018 All Star game where they played up to a 2228 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:39,440 certain amount of points rather than like a final buzzer beater 2229 01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:42,040 score and they had like that last possession where they were 2230 01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,720 really getting after it. Thought that 1 was great. 2231 01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:48,960 OK, I think 2020, the Kobe tribute, I thought that game 2232 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,320 was, you know, at least had a little more emotional impact and 2233 01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,720 value. All right after 2020. 2234 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,600 Done. Wow. 2235 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,840 I I don't think I've been intrigued in a single one. 2236 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,920 I don't know. I mean, I think I've watched a 2237 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:04,440 couple of the dunk contest. I watched, you know, the Sabrina 2238 01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:09,320 Ionescu 3 point thing they did last year with Curry. 2239 01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:14,160 But yeah, I think, you know, and I'm certainly still obviously 2240 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,280 intrigued in the game of basketball itself. 2241 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,920 And I think it's some of the most entertaining basketball 2242 01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,120 I've ever watched in terms of, you know, regular season action. 2243 01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:25,040 But I just think the All Star game, once you've kind of lost 2244 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,840 the players, Yep, you've lost the fans too. 2245 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,600 You know, even even Anthony Edwards is joking. 2246 01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:32,200 They're like, oh, are you going to play hard? 2247 01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:34,200 And he goes, no, what do you think? 2248 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,280 And it's like, I don't even blame him because. 2249 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,240 But then he did, though. And then when he got the MVP 2250 01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,640 award last night, he said, hey, Wendy, you know, Wendy set the 2251 01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,880 tone. So, but I mean, think about, you 2252 01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:44,760 know, a kid who's just barely been here for a minute. 2253 01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,920 It's got to inspire. I know Edwards is young as well, 2254 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,800 but he's got like, Wendy's got to be the one who inspires all 2255 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:51,280 the veterans to play with some purpose and. 2256 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,040 Some crazy. What if he didn't do it? 2257 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,960 Then they let me out there shooting 50 footers and it's 2258 01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,040 just. And he's kind of the guy who 2259 01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,520 will do it. You know, Wemby is, you know, 2260 01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,960 he's he he has a little bit of Giannis, but I think since he's 2261 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,360 younger and he had that more of that hype coming into him. 2262 01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:11,160 He's got a real, real toughness to him and a real care for the I 2263 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:12,600 agree. And that's what I that's what I 2264 01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,040 like about. Women, let me get one more 2265 01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,640 thing. I just so when I'm growing up 2266 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,800 again, I'm watching, you know, Larry Bird and Magic Jaw like to 2267 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:23,000 me, the best part, and I love the All Star game too, because 2268 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,840 that's when Jordan would would unveil his new sneakers and I 2269 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,600 just loved everything about the pageantry. 2270 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,080 My God, phenomenal. But when I was young, I loved 2271 01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:34,040 and even as an adult, like I I do like when they introduced the 2272 01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,040 players. I don't know if they did it last 2273 01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,520 night when they come out on the stage, they still do that so. 2274 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:43,240 Apparently they did something where they had, I don't know if 2275 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,600 it was AI or not, but they had like Everybody wants to Rule the 2276 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,320 world, and then they were like substituting the player's name 2277 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:54,720 for the song lyrics. So it'd be like Jaylen Brown, 2278 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:57,840 something like that. By the way, that's a good song. 2279 01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:04,120 Yeah, anybody wants to rule? Good. 2280 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:05,840 So they did. So that's pretty cool. 2281 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,840 I wish. I guess I could I'll pull up the 2282 01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,520 video. But yeah, they did that. 2283 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,160 So that was fun. I think the NBA, though, 2284 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:15,880 comparatively to the 90s, has a lot less. 2285 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,040 This is this has always been my argument against LeBron. 2286 01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:22,240 You know, obviously I'm a big fan of his game, but I think the 2287 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,880 cultural impact of the modern day of basketball just pales in 2288 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,760 comparison to the people of the 90s. 2289 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,640 Like, you don't see someone walking around wearing, oh, I'm 2290 01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:34,080 wearing Kevin Durant's, oh, I'm wearing the LeBron ones. 2291 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,480 It's just like there's. Just a lack of cultural 2292 01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:41,040 significance that the players play in, in pop culture, in our 2293 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,680 lives where it's like, OK, LeBron, he's that guy, but I'm 2294 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,400 not wearing Lebron's. I'm not, you know, I'm not moved 2295 01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:51,440 by him fashion wise or style wise or I don't. 2296 01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:53,560 You know, he finally shaved his head. 2297 01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,760 I mean, he was he was dyeing it with shoe Polish. 2298 01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,160 I mean, the other day I actually saw him in his locker home with 2299 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,520 his hair. Somebody had that on Instagram 2300 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,960 like with, with a big thick brush like and he was doing it 2301 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,080 like so hard, like he was scraping himself. 2302 01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,040 Rug burn. What the hell you doing? 2303 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,120 See, but I don't know if I'd use the word cultural. 2304 01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:11,240 I'm going, I'm going to push back on that. 2305 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,040 It's an interesting observation. But to me, you think about the 2306 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,440 like the cultural impact and what I think. 2307 01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:20,880 I think cultural, like their style, that's that's part of it. 2308 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:25,520 But I think more influence on how people think to an extent. 2309 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,600 And I feel like today's players, whether it's good or bad, I 2310 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,320 think they've got more. Political. 2311 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:32,640 More, yeah. Oh, absolutely. 2312 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,680 More societal, yes, yes. So to let's separate the two 2313 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:38,920 now. Lou Alcindor, you know, 2314 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,560 obviously players like that, very outspoken for sure. 2315 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,040 I remember they had a coalition. It was like Lou, it was Muhammad 2316 01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:50,760 Ali, Bill Russell, several other very prominent African American 2317 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,640 athletes that that joined together, you know, for, for 2318 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,280 their for their cause, for a great 'cause they they unified. 2319 01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,800 And, you know, that was also, you know, right around the riots 2320 01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,400 and and real political unrest and Doctor King. 2321 01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:06,520 So the timeline was was perfect and and like and there their 2322 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,040 influence was was grand was I think on some level 2323 01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:11,600 incalculable. I don't really know how you 2324 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,760 quantify the depth of their impact because it was that 2325 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,960 great. Now I, but I would all say this 2326 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,320 like stylistically, sure, Jordan shoes others okay, but think 2327 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,800 about the, the, just the game itself. 2328 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,960 I mean, Steph Curry and his shooting prowess. 2329 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:30,160 Think of Jokic as a big man, you know, passing prowess. 2330 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:33,040 And I know there were other like Arvida Sabonis was a, a great 2331 01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,800 passing big man from back in the day. 2332 01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:39,320 But like, I feel like today's players have done more to change 2333 01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,160 the game, the game. So there's, there's almost, 2334 01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,720 there's a lot there. And I think you need to, at 2335 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,440 least for me, I would, I would designate different areas and 2336 01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:50,120 apply it to different generations. 2337 01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,080 Like I, I think magic, obviously, you know, the first 2338 01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:57,280 prototype big point guard AT-69 kind of spawned that, that next 2339 01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,200 generation. And you know, shooters with 2340 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,440 Steph. And so they again, a lot there 2341 01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:03,520 no right or wrong answer, but they're curious. 2342 01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,640 And, and the other thing too, how do you think? 2343 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:10,000 I'm very curious how you answer this Larry Bird, right, somebody 2344 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,320 like Larry Bird, Larry Bird's in the NBA today. 2345 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:17,200 What's Larry Bird? Because I think there are some 2346 01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:21,960 people who would say he's either Luka Doncic or he's Sam Hauser. 2347 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:23,960 It's like there's one of the two. 2348 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,000 I want to go like a good in between there. 2349 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,360 I want to go. He's like a 19 point per game 2350 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,840 guy. I want to say, listen, he's 2351 01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,960 still a scrappy interior defender. 2352 01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:35,840 He's still got you. Like if you're trying to post 2353 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,280 them up, he's still kind of got you there. 2354 01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,880 But I think there's a lack of quickness on the perimeter that 2355 01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,240 he's going to lose. You know, like I think if you 2356 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,120 got Steph Curry switched on to him in a pick and roll, he could 2357 01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:49,720 get burnt. But I think because what's funny 2358 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:53,000 is Marcus Smart has more threes, old time on the Celtics. 2359 01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,720 List. Which is what's it, you know, so 2360 01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:00,920 it's like if Larry Bird got the chance to put up the volume that 2361 01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:03,920 the players in the modern day did, you know, who knows? 2362 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,920 He could be a 25 point per game guy who's just splashing threes. 2363 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:12,560 He's getting 6-7 threes a game plus 5-6 assists sort of deal 2364 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,560 so. It's it's. 2365 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,720 Hard to decipher, especially with like a Luka Dodgich who's 2366 01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:21,560 got that slow but methodical game similar to Larry. 2367 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:27,920 So I'm going to go like 1819 points per game, 5-6 assists, 7 2368 01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,080 rebounds. I think you'd be the MVP. 2369 01:54:30,440 --> 01:54:32,400 Really. I really do, yeah. 2370 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,480 Now, I don't know that I could say that about all the guys from 2371 01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:36,880 back in the day. But you see, number one, 2372 01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,920 somebody like Larry. Now this applies to all the guys 2373 01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,560 back in the day, but somebody like Larry, just how he was 2374 01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,840 wired and how he wanted to compete, he would actually, it 2375 01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:49,440 would maximize every ounce of whatever athletic prowess he was 2376 01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,320 given. Because I'm meaning if he's 2377 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:55,120 coming up today, he's he's lifting weights, he's training 2378 01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,440 very differently. Like Larry would just bang back 2379 01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,720 beer and would shoot and would like jog the stairs and he never 2380 01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:02,200 lifted weights. He didn't do any of that. 2381 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:03,320 And a lot of guys didn't back then. 2382 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,440 So he'd be coming up in a different culture. 2383 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,480 He'd be playing AAU, all right. So we'd have more of AI, think a 2384 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,480 little bit more of a city game. I think that that would 2385 01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:15,000 probably, even if he grew up in Indiana on a farm, you know, 2386 01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,600 those players still like the real, like the special players 2387 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,440 still play AAU. Right now, he might be the only 2388 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,880 white kid on the team, but Larry would be in the middle of all 2389 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,400 that. And Larry would be absolutely 2390 01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,120 unstoppable. I think more unstoppable #1 he'd 2391 01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,800 shoot more threes #2 he'd get to the foul line more because they 2392 01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:33,840 call more, more fouls. And if he didn't get to the foul 2393 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:37,360 line more than and they, but they called the game the way 2394 01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:40,560 they do now, him getting his shot off would be easier because 2395 01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,600 you watch him. Just a little homework for you. 2396 01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,440 I like, I think you laid out pretty well. 2397 01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,000 I'm just I'm just giving you my I don't think you're completely 2398 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,840 off base. I just don't agree, but I do 2399 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:54,040 like the way you laid it out. Go and watch Larry Bird YouTube 2400 01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,600 highlights later and watch the way this guy had to come off 2401 01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:00,520 screens and elbows flying and just getting rocked off picks, 2402 01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:02,480 right. And when I look at Larry Bird 2403 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:06,480 now, obviously a sub, you know, a substandard athlete in terms 2404 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,720 of quickness and jumps clearly, but he wasn't 65. 2405 01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,720 Larry was 6 foot 9. Some people say they actually 2406 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,640 think it was 610 like some players have said that. 2407 01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:18,880 So you have a guy who had an amazing feel for the game. 2408 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,720 I mean, one of the best passers of all time, one of the best 2409 01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,640 shooters of all time and really one of the toughest competitors 2410 01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:29,440 of all time and and a great rebounder and just not afraid of 2411 01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,080 anything. Like, I think that Larry, with 2412 01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,640 the rules today and the modern training, would be the MVP in 2413 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:39,360 the NBAI really do. So I'm just seeing some crazy 2414 01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,560 comments here in terms of his averages. 2415 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:46,120 D Rod over here says that he would average 50 points and 20 2416 01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:49,400 boards. What would what would your kind 2417 01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,200 of thoughts be around statistically where Larry would 2418 01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,360 kind of stack up against the modern? 2419 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,800 He never, no one's averaging 50. He'd probably average. 2420 01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,480 See, he's a very unselfish player too, so he's not going to 2421 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,520 go gun and hunting shots. That's the other thing. 2422 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,160 He scored within the framework of the offense. 2423 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,400 He had McHale, who was a one of the best power forwards of all 2424 01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,080 time. Robert Parish was a really good 2425 01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:12,040 center. Dennis Johnson needed to get a 2426 01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:13,520 couple of shots, same with Danny Ainge. 2427 01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:19,120 So I would say that Byrd in today's NBA would average. 2428 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,640 He'd averaged a triple double. Let me just start with that. 2429 01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,560 He'd averaged a triple that that would be easy. 2430 01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:29,160 So he would say, I would say he'd be about 27, like in his 2431 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:35,360 prime, 2728, Thirty points a game, you know, 11 and a half, 2432 01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:39,200 12 rebounds, 10 assists. Like he'd be that 3-4 steals. 2433 01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:43,320 Oh my God, let's see, Pete, Larry Bird also made all NBA 2434 01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,920 defensive teams now, not not because, you know, he was 30 2435 01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,560 feet away from the rim and he was moving his feet and he was 2436 01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:51,160 hanging with somebody going yo-yo, no. 2437 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,720 But they didn't really do that anyway, except for maybe Isaiah 2438 01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:57,120 and a few other guards. But his anticipate Chris Mullen 2439 01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:59,720 had this as well. His anticipation of the passing 2440 01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:04,000 lanes like his instincts. I I know it's hard to quantify 2441 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,960 intelligence and the ability to see things a step before others, 2442 01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,760 but Larry had it. I mean so he's not averaging 50. 2443 01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:16,760 Larry Bird is a multi time MVP if he started his career today. 2444 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,560 I like to take, you know what, hey, even more championships for 2445 01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:21,880 the Celtics. Let's get after. 2446 01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,600 It now I'll tell you a guy. Yeah, Yeah, well, I'll tell you 2447 01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:29,560 a guy who might this is going to be interesting who might 2448 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:34,800 actually be a little downgraded in today's NBA. 2449 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,880 Who do you think Magic? Why? 2450 01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:40,320 Why would that be? Well, think about so Magic comes 2451 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,040 up, you know, wins the championship. 2452 01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,800 Michigan State beats Bird, obviously in the 79 NCAA 2453 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:49,080 championship goes to the Lakers. Kareem in the finals, I think he 2454 01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,640 had a migraine. Magic jumps center and put up 2455 01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:55,200 like 37, whatever, 13, whatever he put up. 2456 01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:59,200 But part of Magic's brilliance was his incredible passing. 2457 01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:00,680 And that that would be the same, right? 2458 01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,760 But also part of his major advantage was that he was just 5 2459 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:08,040 inches taller than every single point guard, every point guard. 2460 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,320 And Magic was not a good shooter. 2461 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:14,680 Now, if I, if I say that about bird, if if, if, if bird had 2462 01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:18,440 like, you know, if, if, if bird was doing box jumps like my like 2463 01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,320 my son does since he was 9, I didn't do once when I was in 2464 01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:23,640 college. He's been doing them for the 2465 01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:27,320 last year and a half. Like if Magic had the modern 2466 01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,200 technology, he would grow up more, I believe, with a shooting 2467 01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:35,160 prowess because he'd be shooting more just by nature of coming 2468 01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:36,600 up. He had a set shot. 2469 01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,160 He wasn't really a good shooter. But I also think that you're 2470 01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:43,960 kind of inherently who you are. You either have shooting touch 2471 01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:45,440 or you don't. Not that you can't get 2472 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,040 incrementally better. I don't think Magic would ever 2473 01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:50,760 be a great shooter and I just don't. 2474 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:54,880 And if the other aspects of the game are taken away just a 2475 01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,360 little bit because now was height isn't the advantage that 2476 01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:01,120 it once was, I don't think it's outlandish to say that Byrd 2477 02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:04,320 would be a better player in the modern NBA than Magic would be 2478 02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:06,120 right now. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, I 2479 02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,240 think, you know, with just the idea that he has that shooting 2480 02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:13,480 touch that magic didn't, I think that just easily puts him in an 2481 02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:17,120 advantage over him in the modern day because it's like, you know, 2482 02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:18,680 what magic would have in the modern day. 2483 02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:21,040 He'd have quickness. You know, he'd still have a good 2484 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:25,120 body for being a point guard, obviously, the passing genius. 2485 02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:28,560 But it would be different when you could, you know, throw a 2486 02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:31,400 guard on him, throw a shooting guard on him, you know, throw 2487 02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:33,160 one through 3. Anyone could. 2488 02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:35,440 Anyone would probably be able to guard him. 2489 02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,000 No doubt about him. All right, man, I'm still 2490 02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,760 wrapping this thing down. I'll go a little two hours 2491 02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:40,760 today. Some good content. 2492 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:42,680 Hey, when you're having fun and things are flowing. 2493 02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,400 No, no need to wrap it up early. You know what I mean? 2494 02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:46,840 So, J Rod, good job today, buddy. 2495 02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:48,520 Good seeing you. Hopefully you had a good 2496 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:49,920 weekend. Did you have a good weekend, Yes 2497 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:51,040 or no? I didn't have a good time. 2498 02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:53,680 Well, you know what I mean by good. 2499 02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:56,760 Good or. Chill, chill weekend, chill 2500 02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:59,240 weekend, chill weekend. I'm still waiting for that good 2501 02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,400 weekend. Which as if you're new to the 2502 02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,320 show, I promised J Rod. Not his first date because that 2503 02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:07,120 could be a disaster, not the second date because a lot of 2504 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,680 people have second dates. If J Rod when not if when he 2505 02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:13,400 gets to 1/3 date dinner on the unleashed on the unleashed tab 2506 02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:15,440 here dinner. I'll hook you up a Little Chef 2507 02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:18,400 action make you feel like a big shot bottle of wine. 2508 02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:19,800 Whatever you guys want to drink, I'll take. 2509 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:22,960 I just thought of like this is this is totally random but just 2510 02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:27,280 a crazy video concept. If you if you paid for the 2511 02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:31,800 dinner strictly based off the Super chats of the last episode 2512 02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:34,160 and then it was like. You had to gauge. 2513 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:38,200 The plate you it was you either go McDonald's, Burger King or 2514 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:42,040 you go one is for Charles. I like it. 2515 02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:44,560 I, you know, I think a lot of people would be, I think you 2516 02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:49,320 would be eating steak rather than horse meat because I think 2517 02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,560 a lot of people like you and I like a lot of people. 2518 02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,000 I think a lot of people like the contrast, the different style 2519 02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,200 and the different energies. We're very different people in 2520 02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:59,200 terms of how we do it. I know they love the the musical 2521 02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:00,320 taste. I don't know if you notice any 2522 02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:03,720 time somebody throws a little comment on the on the YouTube 2523 02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,400 page, like about the music. What do I write? 2524 02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:07,920 J Rod production. Yes, Sir, I write that you 2525 02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:09,920 notice that. Come on, I always throw a little 2526 02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,880 like on it from my personal account. 2527 02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:12,840 I love it. Thank you. 2528 02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:14,280 You know, of course you earned it. 2529 02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:17,160 And J Rod was telling me that he's got some lyrics written for 2530 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:19,280 the song. So that's coming along well. 2531 02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:23,440 But the point is, if we did do that, like the the amount of 2532 02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,800 money or the type of meal that that J Rod could have on his 2533 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,960 third date would be solely dependent upon the amount of 2534 02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:33,120 super chat money for that show or for that, for that segment, 2535 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,480 whatever. I believe people would have your 2536 02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:37,600 back and I believe that you would be going, you'd be going 2537 02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,760 large. Yeah, no, I think so too. 2538 02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:41,760 I I have faith in the unleashed fam. 2539 02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:43,640 Just obvious. You know, obviously you don't 2540 02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:45,520 have to do that. Just a little like that's like a 2541 02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:46,800 funny YouTube video. I. 2542 02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:48,400 It is funny. It is funny. 2543 02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:49,840 All right, man. Let me get out of here. 2544 02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:51,120 J Rod. Good stuff today, buddy. 2545 02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:52,000 I'll hit. I'll hit you guys. 2546 02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:53,320 I'll hit you. After the show we'll get 2547 02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:55,880 together on the shorts. He'll do all the post production 2548 02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:57,280 stuff. Just a heads up. 2549 02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,600 I'm looking forward to it. I know you guys are as well. 2550 02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,000 Wednesday, 8:00 PM. I'm going to jump on Sal's show, 2551 02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:06,320 on Sal's YouTube show. So that will be Wednesday at 8 2552 02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:07,880 live. I know we'll do a lot of Yanks 2553 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,320 and Mads get cooking with that. That'll be a ton of fun. 2554 02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:13,640 Looking forward to it. Also, I don't know if we'll have 2555 02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:18,120 additional clarity in terms of the date, but stuff that I I 2556 02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:21,800 can't divulge yet because we're not there yet and I want to be 2557 02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,760 fair to the to the process. I don't want just throw things 2558 02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:28,280 out there that don't happen or aren't fully expected to happen. 2559 02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:32,040 I can tell you this BT and Sal live 2 point O going to happen. 2560 02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:34,320 I could take check that's that's going to happen. 2561 02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:36,960 I can tell you that it's going to be on Long Island check. 2562 02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,920 I could tell you I won't tell you the venue, but I know the 2563 02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,840 venue check so will the show happen again? 2564 02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:44,720 Yup. Will we be out east Yup. 2565 02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:48,320 Do I know where we'll be yes. I don't know the date yet OK, 2566 02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:50,920 that's why I got to stop it with that, but maybe by Wednesday, 2567 02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:53,440 because we are going back and forth on these dates me, Sal and 2568 02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:55,480 and touch. Maybe we have some more update 2569 02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:57,640 on that. Hey, appreciate you guys as 2570 02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:00,480 always dealing with the I know that that that that reflections 2571 02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:03,040 annoying, but appreciate appreciate you guys not making a 2572 02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,040 big deal out of you know, I can't control it yet. 2573 02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:08,280 So go out there like it, subscribe it, get that traction, 2574 02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:10,600 the hype stuff, get it out, get the word out there. 2575 02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,640 The more you let people know about what we're doing here on 2576 02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,880 BT unleash, the more I can do the more I will incorporate. 2577 02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:20,160 I'm here everyday for you. 10 things start going will start 2578 02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:24,160 going live. I I want to do a couple of Nick 2579 02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,480 live watch parties. Obviously I'll do that with the 2580 02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:29,040 Yankees, maybe occasionally with the Mets here and there as well. 2581 02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:32,280 Certainly like a big Johnny's road game that I can't get to. 2582 02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,600 So a lot of stuff today, whether it's the horrible draft, you 2583 02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:39,320 know, and his philosophy The Jets stuff as well the NBA 2584 02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:42,320 issues with silver, the All Star weekend, St. 2585 02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:45,040 John's Providence, the fight. If you just tuned in hit rewind. 2586 02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:48,840 Go check it out and I will catch you guys tomorrow at 10 on 2587 02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:49,880 unleash. We'll see you. 2588 02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:50,240 Bye, bye.