This is unleashed Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me.
This is unleashed Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me.
This is unleashed Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me.
This is unleashed Are you listening?
Can you hear me? This is unleashed Are you
listening? Can.
You. Hear me, What's going on?
Everybody beats you unleashed back on this.
What do we got Thursday? What's going on, everybody?
Hopefully everybody's doing well.
All right, So Jay, I got to get my jet, my guy Jay involved
right away. So when we launched the channel,
you weren't a part of it the first couple of weeks.
You came in shortly thereafter. It was all about, you know,
trying to lay a foundation and letting everybody know where I
was post WFAN. And then obviously a little
studio redesign and we've had a couple of different iterations
with that. We had to get rid of the glare.
I was initially in my basement. Obviously sponsorship was a
massive, massive part of the deal for us to to further
monetize this to be able to do some stuff.
And I've always said click by click and brick by brick.
And you know, for all the shows that we've done and, and we've
had some bangers, we've had some great guests.
We've had great, great interaction.
I think the, the BT Elites family has been strong and loud
and consistent and just awesome, as I fully expected.
But the one thing, and I was asked this, you know, and I'm
still asking from time to time, hey, what do you miss most about
WFAN, right? And the thing to me that really
jumps out, sure, some back and forth with sound, some other
stuff. But to me it's really being able
to connect and in a non digital way, in an audible way.
You know, that back and forth with the fans where somebody
calls up and I say something they disagree with, they get on
me, I get back at them, we go back and forth.
It's an energy and it's a it's a palpable presence for, for that,
that, that I, that I kind of need, that I, that I missed,
that I love, that I've always enjoyed.
And we are very happy to announce that beginning
tomorrow. And this is where J Rod comes
in. You will be able to call and if
you want to try to undress me or if you want to cosign something,
it is go time. J Rod, take it away.
What do you got there? Buddy.
Yes, Sir. So yeah, super excited to
announce this. You know, last night I felt like
I was like Frankenstein, like like the ideas were just coming.
I felt like I was creating a monster.
So yeah, let me just like try to break this through as quickly as
possible. So we're going to use the
platform that BT and I currently use, Stream Yard for this.
So how it's going to work, I'm going to pin in the chat and
it's also going to be in the description of every video we do
the callers for. It's going to have the link to a
Stream Yard side studio, almost like a backstage.
In that studio, you're going to tell me your name, where you're
calling from, and your question. Once you're approved with your
question, I'm going to send you personally in a private message,
which is within the stream yard, a link to this studio in which
we'll announce you. And then here's just like a
little example. I kind of cooked this up.
Oh. Look at you.
Oh, look at SO. We'll have that.
So we'll have like the name, we'll have the little location
right there. We'll throw it up.
So yeah, the way we'll do it, there'll be a link in the in the
chat, in the description, you'll click that, give me your name,
location, question, we'll send you on to the call.
By the way, put that up again. I love seeing that.
Let's get so we got we got some calls here.
Joe's up first Joe and long out the Joe.
What's going on buddy? Welcome to unleashed.
Wow, that sounds natural. That feels great.
So I mean, you and I obviously do this every day for the if it
seems a little convoluted, it's really not.
And just to reiterate, Jay, you tell me if I got this right.
Basically, we start the show every day.
We've got the chat message, Jay Rod's going to put a little link
in there. You're going to pop in, you're
going to click on that link, you're going to basically
connect with Jay Rod, all that stuff, but he's going to put you
backstage, digitally backstage. And then when they're on with
me, you'll see the name, you'll see where they're calling from,
but you won't see them. You'll just hear their voice.
Right, exactly. So we're gonna do it audio only.
So audio only, That's the way we're gonna.
Do it. You can shut your camera off.
Or we could just do it where I just kind of have BT selected
like that. So it's great.
It'll be super easy. Super pumped.
I mean, it's super pumped. That's gonna be fun.
It's really just 22 clicks of a link and you're there.
Bing boom all right at 2 clicks in the year 2026 should not be
too hard. So I know that you guys going to
represent. I know that you guys going to
bring it. Let's get into the show here.
Of course, BT Unleashed as always brought to you by my
friends at Sullivan Propane, one of New York's best personal
injury law firms, according to U.S. news in the World Report
finds Sullivan online. You can see them at
triallaw1.com. That's trial law1.com.
Also buy premium sausage. Great meals begin with great
ingredients, premium delivers, flavor.
You can rely on premium sausage the way sausage should be.
Find them at Premium Foods dot com or in your local grocery
store. Now before we get into the show
last night we had The Jets collective episode #4 which was
phenomenal. Rich was dropping some really
good Nuggets. Rich of course, long time the
the longest tenured beat man for anybody in the NFL and rich as
it was, we talked about everything.
So you guys going to want to go check it out.
Myself and Rich Jake Asman like it, subscribe it.
Give that the love that you've shown to unleash here.
But what Rich reported is that The Jets interest in the and
this was also earlier in the day as well with Jeremiah had this
and I think somebody else did, but definitely Jeremiah about
Carnell Tate, maybe The Jets scooting into the top 10 to get
him. Also, according to Rich, they
love Jordan Tyson. They're looking for not exactly
breaking news. This is fairly, you know, basic
stuff, but when you hear the names it, it does add a little
clarity here. Looking for an opposite, a wide
receiver opposite Garrett Wilson that's bigger, stronger, you
know, just a, a just a, a different profile receiver.
And that they may prefer this is a little surprising to me.
They may actually surprise they might they might favor Omar
Cooper from Indiana over Makai Lemon and even potentially
Cooper over Tyson. So that is coming 7 seven days
away from the NFL draft and it's going to be great.
And I can see you guys are fired up.
I'm just checking this out here. You guys have been asking for
this with the call. So get the chats going J ride to
get something good. Pop it in.
All right, Dexter Lawrence. So you know, I spent some time
on this when it first first broke that he's obviously not
happy with this contract now. Now, I get it.
This is the name of the game and I will never begrudge a player
for chasing every punny petty, especially when you talking
about the NFL, where they've got the hammer and when you show an
ounce of attrition or when a team's finances are out of whack
because they didn't do a good job of keeping the finances in
order. Well, what do they do?
Invariably they go to, you know, 6-7 guys in offseason.
Hey, we've got to restructure. Hey, we've got to do this.
So I got no problem with Dexter Lawrence wanting more money.
Now, when he signed this contract, he was the 3rd highest
paid defensive interior defensive lineman.
Now I believe he is 9. No, he's 11th.
Yeah, he's now 11th. And by the way, that's probably
commensurate with his play. So I think what's problematic
here from Dexter's point of view, obviously being the 11th
paid, the 11th highest paid defensive lineman is not good.
That's not what he wants. But he doesn't have a whole lot
of leverage. He was awful last year.
He did nothing. I thought he was really out of
shape. I didn't see a very motivated
player. Now that does happen when you're
part of a losing culture for a while, you would have to think
that John Harbaugh's arrival will energize guys like Dexter.
But apparently you know it it I mean, it hasn't because he he
asked for that trade going back to April 6th.
What do I think is going to happen?
There was a point where when this first broke, I said that I
would trade Dexter Lawrence. I would myself, but I didn't
think that that's the route that the Giants would go.
I'm going to stick with half of that scenario.
I would still trade Dexter Lawrence, but now I think that
they're actually going to and that's the right move.
Now, obviously, you talk about trading partners.
We've done this a lot with The Jets.
I've been saying forever, hey, Jets, trade out of two, collect
more capital, get a comparable player, you know, at 7:00 with
the Commanders or the Saints at 8 or Miami or Kansas City in
that vicinity. But to make a trade, you got to
have a willing dance partner. We obviously know that.
So, you know, to me, there's a couple of the teams that could
really use Dexter Lawrence, provided he's motivated and
provided they've got the money and the appetite to grant him
that, that extension that is obviously chasing.
So I think the first call you make is the Ravens with the
Costa, you start there. The Vikings need some help.
The Bears. I think the Bears will be a
great fit when you look at what they've run out there, where
they are as a team, what they need, if Dexter is locked in,
what he can do to change their bottom line.
I think you call Robert Solomon the Tennessee Titans.
I think you certainly call Kansas City.
I think you call the Panthers. And I even think that you
absolutely call the Packers. I wouldn't be surprised if the
Packers call them because you think about where they are and
you know, the the, the move that they made for Parsons.
Like to me, if you're going all in, go all in.
Like don't half ass it. Don't go 70% of the way and go
all the way in. And if you know, if you have
back-to-back years, I know Parsons got hurt.
But if you have back-to-back years where you're bringing in
at different levels, even though obviously Parsons could get
after the quarterback, obviously, you know, but like in
theory and interior upfront guys, second level ish hybrid,
first and second level Parsons, you know, with with their
quarterback with the other weapons.
Like if I'm the Green Bay Packers, that's one thing that
I'm looking at here. So I don't, I don't know, I just
get the sense that, you know, Dexter Lawrence to me, man, I
there's some guys who have a down season where I'm like, all
right, there's no doubt there's circumstances.
And I know we had the lingering injury from the year before.
I want to be fair to Lawrence. He's been a terrific player.
He's been a great giant. He's been a good leader, you
know, But when you start to get to your late 20s and I start to
see some visible, you know, warning signs that I don't like,
I'm not giving you an extension. I'm just not.
And I thought that what Joe Shane said basically told you
everything that you needed to know about what the Giants line
of thinking is right now. He's like, hey, you know, we
love Dex. We like Dex, but he's got two
years to go on his contract. So it is what it is pretty much.
And that's the way that it should be.
Because to me, and I know it's a little bit different in football
because there's so many moving pieces.
I get it. But you know, if, if, if I can
stink with you, well, then I could certainly stink without
you while resetting my finances. And also there's the possibility
that I can maybe not stink as much without you while also
resetting my finances. So this isn't a commentary on
Dexter Lawrence the player. You know, I believe it.
I'm going into last year. Dexter Lawrence wasn't good.
Dexter Lawrence was great. He was a game record.
You know, he was it was everything that you want for a
guy in the middle of the defensive line could push back,
command the double stop the run, crush the quarterback, just a
massive space eater who was kind of was quick twitch.
You know, but things happen and you know, I'm sorry this this is
not the time to be squawking about a contract that, you know,
longer satisfied with. Now again, you could do it and
I'm not even like again, I really like Dexter Lawrence.
This is nothing you know, there's certain guys that we
talk about and I don't mean on a personal level, but like, but
I'll give you the jazz Chism, right, I'll get to the Yankees.
I mean what a lucky win last night.
My God, the Mets look, the Mets look worse by the night, which
is almost hard to do. So I'll get to some baseball, I
promise you. But a guy like Jazz Chism,
right? So to me, Jazz, it's, I'll
actually like his personality. I think he's very affable.
I think he's fun. I think he brings a little juice
to a usually corporate locker room, you know, a very
corporate, very pinstripe suit, Brooks Brothers organization.
And I think you need guys like that.
But I think he's so broken fundamentally, I don't like him
as a baseball player. So there's nothing that he can
say that's going to change my opinion.
And really there's nothing he could do because to me, he's
already the player that he is and that he's going to be moving
forward. I want no porta jazz Chism
moving forward. All right, So that that like
that's one analysis. You know, you look at a guy like
Karl Anthony Towns, where I for most of the year, certainly
going into the year and early in the year, the bulk of the
pressure that I was applying to the Knicks was directed at CAT.
And then I step back and I'm like, am I really being fair
about this? Because it's per, you know, per
36 per 48 numbers were good and there was enough statistical
evidence where whether it was top 10 defensive efficiency for
the Knicks and obviously a team that could score.
I'm like, maybe I got to lay out a little bit on CAT here.
And then I started looking at the coach and then I started
looking at Jalen Brunson a little bit.
And the rotation point is there's, there's different
evaluations and different reservations and energies and
pushbacks for each player. My, the thing about Dexter is
that I really do worry that he's on the precipice of kind of
checking out a little bit, You know, even if he gets the new
deal. I mean, think about this last
year, he just didn't look motivated, did not look
motivated. So if you're not motivated and
you're not productive and you're not in shape and you have a bad
season. And by all statistical accounts,
he had a miserable season. Carl Banks that a lot of, you
know, a lot of history with Carl.
I love Carl, but Carl Banks said, I don't know if it was on
the pod, I think it was on. I think it was on.
He wouldn't have said this during the game.
It was on the podcast, I believe, right with Papa and he
basically said nobody respects you anymore, Dex and not on a,
you know, man to man level. But we don't really need to
double team you that much because you're just not the game
record that you once were because you're huffing and
puffing. You're probably 15 lbs
overweight. You're out of shape and you're
easier to play against and and easier to defend.
And we can now work around you, not have to scheme against you.
So you tell me, was that an outlier?
Was that a one off? You know what, we've seen this a
lot in the NFL with a big body dudes, offensive lineman,
interior defensive lineman. It's usually a a bad sign when
they start to get to the late 20s and they pat and they pack
on that weight and the production drops massively,
which it undeniably did. So the only way I wouldn't trade
him, and again, this is consistent with what I said back
on April 6th when we first learned that he was demanding a
trade or requested a trade, right?
I said I would trade him. I said I didn't think that the
Giants would. Now, I would still trade him.
I think that the Giants are going to proactively pursue to
try to find the partner to do that.
The only way I don't do it is if John Horribaugh and I don't know
what he's thinking right now about Dexter Lawrence, all these
guys, I'm sure he's already put on the film.
And if you put on the film, you can't be impressed with what you
saw a year ago. But John Horbaugh is also a
great football mind and a hell of a coach.
So he could probably separate. All right, Bad year, bad
situation. Got a little lazy in the weight
room, got a little sloppy with his technique, blah, blah, blah.
You know, I'll whip him into shape.
He'll be ready to roll. He's going to be the ass that he
was back in 2024 and before that very well might be what he's
thinking. And if he is thinking that, then
I acquiesce to John Horribaugh. If John Horbaugh is on the
fence, let me let me take take that back.
If John Horbaugh is not standing on a table or pounding a table
with his first, I need this guy. I believe in this guy.
I want this guy. I don't want to move forward
without this guy. If he is not saying that behind
closed doors, I don't know if he's going to really say.
It's a shame because what kind of juice does Shane have at this
point? But to like Mara or whomever
he's got to say it to, if that's not the very clear and direct
message, then I'm trading him. The only way I'm keeping him is
if horrible was like, I want him and I need him.
He stays cuz he's got the final say.
That's why you bring him in. My gut tells me that he's not
thinking that. My gut tells me that he's not
feeling that. Because if he was thinking that
and he was feeling that, I don't think that Joe Shane would have
said what he said the other day. Nothing inflammatory, not a not
a shot across the bow necessarily, not a diss, but
just a very business presentation.
Hey, he's got two years to we go, he's under contract, we're
good. And when a GM says that, even if
it's a GM that's been stripped of a little juice, a little
power, that's all I need to know.
Like it doesn't have to be some hit piece because that would be
counterproductive. But when you when you frame it
the way that he did, I believe Dexter Lawrence will be traded
and I believe he will be traded by draft night, either on draft
night, the night before the draft, 7 days away, two days
before the draft, whatever. I don't think that he would be
dealt after the draft because at that point, you know, you want
to have the ability to obviously try to fill the void if you
trade him or in my mind when they trade him.
So, you know, that's the skinny on decks, that's the skinny on
Dexter, not Lawrence Taylor, You know what I mean?
Not one of these guys that you can't, you can't live without.
He has been a, he has been a disruptor.
He has been a terrific giant who just happens to have been, you
know, the, the unlucky recipient of, of being, you know, drafted
and developed by the Giants when they're at their lowest point
since the 70s. Bad timing.
Not his fault. Last year was his fault.
And to me, that's enough of a visible cautionary warning sign.
I'm not rolling the dice. I'm not going to double down and
say, you know what? And again, at some point,
Harbaugh might do that before it's before a trade is
consummated. The Giants could be thinking
what I just said. Harbaugh could be thinking what
I just said. And then they could get, here's
the other aspect to it. They could get trade offers and
it's just 65 to $0.70 on the dollar and they're not doing it.
See, the problem is it's the timing is not good for anybody,
all right, because the Giants are, even though I think they'll
be markedly improved this year and you know, eventually with
horrible, you would think that they'll be in the upper echelon
of the NFC. I love Jackson Dart, you know
that you get Malik neighbors back to being Malik neighbors.
You know, maybe you get somebody like Caleb Bounds or Sunny
Styles throw a little more defense out there.
The old lines at least becoming competent, like the framework
for the Giants no longer being a doormat where every team just,
you know, wipes their feet in the mud and the dirt and the
grass and the hay right on the Giants face, which is what
they've done forever. That's over.
Like that's ending. The sun is coming out.
It's peering through the clouds and the Giants are moving in the
right direction because they made a big bold move by getting
horrible step one. All right.
But you know, the, the, the prospects of doing anything big
this year are nominal. They they're just they're not
ready. I'm not saying they can't
surprise and do like mess around, get a wild card like
they did a couple of years ago. Brian Davis first year.
But then when they got to the matchup with the Eagles right in
the divisional championship after they won in Minnesota,
which was incredibly impressive. That feels like five years ago.
Actually, that feels like 10 years ago at this point going in
there, Daniel Jones running wild, beating the Vikings on the
road in a really tough venue. But it's, it's been a minute,
you know, and the Giants, that was that was the outlier.
And I remember saying a couple of times and actually
documenting it on WFAN, because when I was growing up, you know,
the Giants were phenomenal. I mean, you had really the first
year I started watching football a little bit after I started
watching big baseball is the first thing I watched.
You know, Yanks on Pix with Scooter Mets on Channel 9 with
Ralph Kiner, you know, this week in baseball game of the week,
all that stuff, right? Baseball cards, baseball
stickers, playing baseball for me.
Because I didn't really understand football.
I'm watching, I'm like, you know, the rules, the offense,
the defense, all the penalties. I'm like, is a little harder
than seeing ball hitting, ball, running, catching ball, throwing
ball, You know, maybe I'm just not that smart.
But for me and I, I think that that's fairly common, unless
you're like from a football football family, your dad
played, your dad coaches, whatever football's confusing.
So you know, in my, in my mind as a, as a 6-7 year old, I don't
know what the hell was going on in football.
So when I really start to process it and watch it,
Parcells was the coach and the best defensive player of all
time in Lawrence Taylor. To me, it's, it's irrefutable.
It's Lt. You had the great Phil Simms and
Hostetler won the second one. You had terrific old line.
You had, you know, Carson Banks and he had all these stunts and
the Giants were a platinum organization, much like the
Yankees were before Brian Cashman forgot how to build the
team, which is now going on. Oh, yeah, 1515 years or
something like that. Whatever the heck it is.
So the point is, like the Giants, when I was watching
them, I had heard, you know, whether it's older people
talking, oh, God, the Giants of the 70s.
Oh my God, the Giants of the Yeah, of course, Passarchick,
the fumble, you know, trying to end the game, Herm Edwards
scooping it up like that's a snapshot of the 1970s New York
Giants ineptitude. But the crazy thing is, and, and
again, I actually went through this several times the outside
of couple of years ago, that wild card win, really the most
recent run of, of 12/13/14 years of Giants football is actually
worse than the 1970s, if you could believe that.
Now, if you're old enough to have lived it, you're probably
saying, wow, I never thought of it that way, but now it's making
sense. And if you were too young and
all you heard about was how wretched the 70s were, well,
trust me, it was, it was on par, if not a little bit worse.
So the point is they have been in a dark space.
You can lose with Dexter. You can win with the without
Dexter. Like this notion that the Giants
can't exist without Dexter Lawrence is a fallacy.
I, I I just don't want to hear it.
I don't think it makes any sense.
So I think it's going to be dealt.
That is my take. That is my opinion, and that's
it. I mean, yeah, he's a little bit
underpaid. If he actually had a really good
season last year, what is he at 22 and a half, $1,000,000?
As I said, he's now 11th in the NFL.
And again, he's got no leverage coming off a bad season at when
you're out of shape and you have a bad season, it now takes a
complete leap of faith because there's fewer tangible things to
point to. It's a leap of faith where, All
right, I've been around this guy for, you know, 5-6 years.
I know what his motor is. I know what his passion is for
the game. I know what his intellect is.
I know how he wants to be great. Last year got away from us, last
year got away from him. But I've won with him.
He's a trench guy, he's a Lieutenant, he's a guy, and he's
a dude in the locker room. I'm going to look the other way
and we're going to keep them and we're going to extend them.
Like if Parcells was still here or if Tom Conflin was still here
and he was one of those guys, guys, if you will.
Well, now you got some built in equity.
He's got zero equity with Horrible who's not used to being
around a franchise with guys who don't work hard and who got with
guys who are not in shape. So if that's the case, you know,
I think it's a very simple decision for Horrible.
Think about this, if you're horrible, you don't have
pressure to win right away. It's not like Aaron Glenn this
year who has no resume as a head coach, unlike horrible who's a
champion and wins 12 or 13 games every year.
So like Aaron Glenn, not that he would have the final say, say on
draft night or free agent move. Hopefully they're working in
concert, but I'm I'm not really sure.
He and Muji, I think that they are, but I'm I can't prove that.
But if I'm Aaron Glenn, I'm doing whatever it takes to get
dudes in now that can squeeze me out a couple of wins that could
get me to Year 3. John Harbaugh certainly doesn't
want to go 5 and 12, and he won't.
But if he did, there would be no repercussion because what you
would be doing is you would be evaluating, cleaning out some of
the dead weight. And I'm not saying Dexter's dead
weight like some of the other guys.
But when you're making over $22 million and you're looking for
2728 mil and I'm looking at the entire macro snapshot of a
franchise that has been, you know, lost in the wilderness for
well over a decade, I'm not messing around and I'm not
taking any chances. And I'm not granting you, you
know, really the even the latitude to prove to me that
last year was an anomaly. You could go prove it to
somebody else. Like if the Titans or the Bears
or the Packers or the Chiefs or the Ravens or the Vikings, they
could use some inside help as well.
They want to take it. They want to roll dice on go for
it, give them that 20, seven, $28 million deal.
Make it commensurate with the the other two D tackles who are
now in that neighborhood monetarily.
And even though I think Dexter at his upside is better than
the, I think Wilkins says, well, who's the other one?
And there's two guys making like 2728.
That's where he wants to get to. He's not getting up to north of
30. So he's looking to get back into
really when he signed this contract, he was the third
highest paid and that's where he wants to get back to.
I wouldn't do it. I would not do it, Jay.
People pumped up about the calls here.
What do we got, everybody? Time.
Yeah, I mean, absolutely. Let's see.
I mean on the calls. Let's see what we've got.
Well, here's a good question from our our main man Avery
Summit at J Rod. Will it be only calls and no
more chat posts on the screen about what's the plan?
I said, I mean I responded to him.
I said absolutely not. We're doing it all.
Yeah, of course, man. I mean, think about it this like
I remember hearing. I don't know if this is still
true, but there was an old adage in radio because I think
sometimes maybe not so much anymore, but I think there was a
point where a lot of hosts, and I was guilty of this as well,
where I think too many hosts overstated the the callers
meaning, you know, generally the thought is that the callers
represent about 1% of the listening audience.
Yeah. I mean, think about how many
times you've listened to sports radio and think about how many
times you've actually called, right?
Never. Not once.
You're literally none, OK? They didn't not even once.
So you couldn't even. Dude, I'm.
I'm a little I'm a young man, like I feel like that's just not
listen, I'd have to ask some of my more like New York, you know,
raised friends if they ever called into the fan.
I'm sure a couple of them have, but I don't know if it's as
popular with my. Gen.
And I think you're. Right.
I think with the YouTube thing though, like it is, you know,
it's probably a little more popular in terms of trying to
get into like a chat sort of deal.
But I think that that's true. I think it is for the most part
age specific. Yeah.
Because if you are older, you know, your first default, if you
want to communicate with somebody had to write him a
letter, sent up a telegram back in the day or pick up the phone
and call him, you know, and you know, now it's like Bing, text
Bing to Jeff, you know, whatever you're going to send, whatever
you do, you got, you know, the WhatsApp, I've got that as well.
So, yeah, you are predisposed to communicate in that matter.
So I, I would agree, you know, it's, it's obviously a bit of a
stereotype, but I think it's an accurate one where the older
generation would call. But even me, and I was a fan
listener literally from day one in 87.
I called the station twice. I called the station once in
college up at Marist when I could barely get it along the
Hudson. Although the reach is great,
especially on 66. You could get that along on a
clear night, almost the entire Eastern Seaboard, like Virginia,
Like you could really, I mean, oh, yeah, it's it's it's a
blowtorch. But nobody wants to really hear
the static of AM anymore. But the point is, I called up
and Richard Near was talking about the Knicks.
And I'm like, we, we got to, we got to get Chris Mullen.
To the Knicks. We got to get Chris Mullen to
the Knicks year and he's like, yeah, and he he basically just
dismissed me immediately. I'm like, he's like, yeah, yeah,
Golden State's just going to get the Knicks Chris Mullen, OK.
And and then I hear click, I'm like, what?
He didn't get to say anything. And then the other time I forgot
what I called about and it was Richard Near too.
And I wasn't even a big Richard Near fan.
I'm not dissing them. I don't want anybody to take
that the wrong way. You know, rocking your radio
legend and all that stuff. Not necessarily my style on the
radio, but I did actually. I did.
You know what I did like listening to Richard?
This is when I was younger, single, pre kids, all that
stuff. I told you when I lived in the
city, I would go up and I would play at this golf course called
New York Country Club quite a bit, which is right off the
Palisades in New City. I think it's exit 11.
And my old station, yeah, it's up there a little bit going
towards like Bear Mountain, but not quite that north in that.
Yeah, beautiful part of the of of the state, I think.
And my old station, 1050 ESPN Radio had like a relationship
with the course. I told you I'd bring all my
buddies. I would just sign my name for
like 700 bucks. And I said, you know, but I
wouldn't pay a dime and I don't. I just need friends, not even
clients like my boys. And you know, with Dan, Rob,
Maddie, Oh my God, Frank a couple of times and I remember
finding one of the sales executives comes up and he's
like, dude, how much golf are you playing?
He's like, we had, we had $50,000 worth of, of, of trade.
It's all gone. I'm like, you know, I'm so I
don't, you know, it wasn't all me, right?
But but the point is like I, it was a nice drive and I always
enjoyed that drive where I'd have a cup of coffee.
It would be early. I Upper West Side boom boom,
right over the GW Bridge work my way to the Palisades.
And it was about a 2530 minute drive actually on the Palisades.
And I would and it was always on Saturday mornings early.
And I would enjoy listening to Richard on a Saturday morning,
you know, because he's always, he's talking, he's talking music
too. But you know, Yankees, Mets,
Yankees, Mets recap boom. And I wanted to hear that.
But no, the, the two times I called it was him.
I told you about the first time with Mulley and he hung up on
me. The first time I was much
younger. I was at my parents house and I
remember I, I tried to like set up the, the tape recorder
because I was so desperately trying to record my, my I.
Don't even. Know if it worked I forget but
he was talking about Nancy Lieberman.
I think it this guy this who knows what year this was but
late 80s maybe Nancy Lieberman either was trying to play
professional basket. I actually, I think she did in a
men's league like the USBL or one of these defunct, long
defunct minor league. So maybe the CBA, one of these
minor league, like way before the G league and the D league
and all that stuff. It was highly viable.
And he was talking about that. I don't know if I called to talk
about that, but again, a fairly short conversation.
So yeah. But I, I, I and I consumed it
forever and I only called twice. So I, and I also think that some
people just don't want to talk like they don't have that.
I don't want to say personality, but you know, that proclivity
to, to communicate in that manner.
They want to express themselves, but it's, it's easier digitally
or they text the show or whatever might be.
So of course the chat is going to be you kidding me?
I'm not going to get my super chats.
Exactly, we need that shoot wait till we figure out we how to do
the Super chats with the calls. Is it going to be a way to do
that or what? Definitely, there certainly is.
How about ending all free for free?
That's a long hack. Free.
For frenetic Friday, yeah, with calls where we could ask BTA
they hey, BT they could pick any three people play round of 18.
Who would they be? Yeah, well, I mean, listen, it's
it's a no rules Friday. So I mean, you guys could you
guys could ask me anything you want.
I mean, I'm not going to necessarily answer, I mean
everything, but I'm pretty much an open book.
You know, we're not we're not like dodging stuff.
We're not, you know, you know, we're talking.
We're going to have a conversation.
Let's go. What do I think the Giants would
get for him? Brad Kaufman, 3582.
Back to the Dexter Lawrence stuff.
Well, that's why the timing is awful now.
Going into last year, it wasn't as urgent for Dexter because,
you know, there was guaranteed money.
Now there's no guaranteed money. Now he's dropped to the 11th
highest paid interior defensive lineman.
Like those things stack up. So I understand why he why he's
doing what he's doing here. What would they get for him?
Yeah, I mean, the window is it's just not congruent with with him
playing well and being dominant. Like if he was dominant like he
was in 2024 and he dropped this Get Me Out of here trade
request. Well, then you getting back
what? You know what The Jets got back
for Q? You getting the first from
Dallas, you get the second. I know it seems like the Giants
are are pretty much hell bent on getting A1 and if they do get a
one, it would obviously be I would think from 20 on, I I
can't see anybody giving up anything before 20.
And if they did, I would I would think that that would be a bad
move on that team's part, unless it's a team like the Packers or
like the bills, like a team that's truly on the precipice of
the championship and it's the final one that's different.
But if it's like the Titans, they're not going to do that or
even the Vikings. They wouldn't do that.
To my point, because I threw them on the list as well.
I think that they'll get, you know, latest first, maybe 2
twos. I mean, I don't know what's more
valuable, one late one or two twos in, in successive years.
I listen, I'll let them figure out the actual capital, but it's
not going to look like what The Jets got and it's certainly not
going to look like what the the Dallas Cowboys got for for
Parsons because he's not, he's not Parsons.
You know what I mean? How about Marciano 1320?
All right, going back, way back to when BT was on with Stephen A
on 10:50, I called in and I won courtside seats to the Knicks
back when they had Crawford, Kurt Thomas, Timmy Thomas and
Marbury. Was it on our show?
I'm I'm guessing that it was. That would be my fault.
Yeah, I think so. Awesome.
Yeah, that was that was a rough year.
That had to be the year when it was the whole Fugazi thing and
the Nets absolutely smacked the Knicks in the playoffs.
I think it was a three-game series.
Oh yeah, back in the day. O3O four, yeah, that was that
was the squad, and it would. Have been it.
That would have been the last in May.
I mean, I don't know if it's the only time the Knicks and the
Nets played each other in the playoffs, but it had to have
been the last time, right? It's the last time, yeah.
They're what I remember when I was in college and I was a
little worried about this matchup. 90 Maybe you could look
this up. I don't think it was the 94
season when they went to the finals and lost to the Rockets
Hakeem in seven. I think it was 93 could have
been 92. I'm going to say 92 or 93 And
they had, you know, they I mean, they they had Derek Coleman,
that Kenny Anderson, they had some player, they had Drozen
Petrovich. Like that was a team that word
me a little bit. They had those funky tie dye
Grateful Dead unis 1994. It was 94.
You're right.
Let's. Wait 93949495. 9394 first the
first round Knicks. It was definitely first.
Round Yeah, Nick smacked them 31.
I know they beat Amici. Who's Charlotte?
Who'd they play after that? ABS, I think it was Charlotte.
It doesn't. Let's see Knick's 94 playoff
round. I think it was Charlotte and
then. Remember 9394?
Not 94. Yeah, yeah.
Oh. Nets, Bulls, Pacers in 9394.
What about go back to 90? Can you go 9293?
Yeah, the early round, I think they played the Cavs, one of
those the early it was always like the Heat, you know, a
little later that the Pacers, the Bulls, but they matched up
with the Cavs with like ELO and and Rod Harper.
So I went to one of those games, Brad Doherty, 91, whatever, it
was out. Playoff finish.
They lost in the Eastern Conference finals to the Bulls.
Yeah, they played before that first round, Pacers, and the
second round was the Hornets. It was the oh, that was.
The 19293 It was against Larry Johnson, Grandma Yep, rookie
Alonzo Mourning and Hugsie Boggs.
Oh, man, that was that was I think, I think Dale Curry was on
that team too. Steph Curry's pops, not sure he
was one of their snipers. I'll tell you the Hornets when
the the just a little side when the Hornets were born.
It's funny, certain teams especially like the starter
jackets and like the hats like the Hornets.
For whatever reason, people love those turquoise satin jackets
like they had the the Hornets. I even remember I had a pair of
Hornet shorts because I love the Rex Chapman, you know, a guy who
could jump, a guy who could shoot.
And like the Hornet skier was way before your time was off the
charts. Like there was a point of view
go even like the early rap videos.
Obviously going to have West Coast, a lot of Raider stuff
obviously, but you know, there was a lot of Hornet stuff.
Oh yeah. Oh, big time.
Because I, I feel like it had like a certain fresh flair to
it. I don't know something about it.
Well, the other thing too, Jay Fresh flair for sure, but it was
also one of those first like lightish colors that popped.
Like if you think Knicks like blue and orange, like Bulls red,
white, black, you know, you know, I don't know.
It's just like the Spurs, black and Gray, the Lakers purple and
Go Celtics, the the Hornets it was definitely and then some of
the other expansion teams sort of messed around with those like
the Grizzlies. That's the weird colors, like
the off colors, kind of like the teals, the turquoise jerseys.
What did I say? Turquoise.
That that's what I meant. I meant teal.
Absolutely like that there. You go, what do we got here?
How about we got tree squirrel now?
Let's be honest guys. Giants.
Had the Giants D Had terrible coaching.
Had terrible coaching Dex had three out of five years the best
player in that field. That position stopped letting 1
semi decent year take away from who Dex is.
You know what, that's fair. I can respect that.
I would expect more of you to stand up for Dexter Lawrence.
I mean, he has been a great player, but that doesn't mean
that where he is contractually where he aims to get 28 young
but body tight. Some early signs now, some
warning signs, some worrisome signs.
While he could still be great and maybe he winds up being
great elsewhere again, I think he's he's going to be dealt.
It doesn't mean that his timeline matches up with where
the Giants are. Like if you think the Giants are
going to win a Super Bowl this year or or be in the mix for
one, you bring them back. If you think that next year's
the massive, massive leap and maybe that's a little bit more
plausible. All right, You know, we've seen
quick turns in the NFL, especially if you have the
quarterback. And you know, I love dart.
All right, Well, maybe that's more viable and and maybe that's
more ammunition, more reasoning to bring back Dexter Lawrence.
But I would trade him. I would I would not run that
risk. I would not roll that dice
because if I'm wrong on that, it's it's a little bit too
punitive for my blood. Omar under Score Yousef F92
Can't wait to throw some tomatoes in some stores in the
chat to rate calls. What is this?
We can rate calls here, no? I mean, he doesn't say no.
I think he's just saying once we get callers on, you know, he
can't, he he can't wait to start throwing some emoji to to give
his, his thoughts on him. OK.
So I didn't know if that was like an official YouTube rating,
you know? No no needles stores.
Funny for calls. Oh my God, we.
You know, we totally could because now, so this is just a
little call back to a previous this chat from a couple episodes
ago Stream Yard just added poles.
To. Their site.
So we're, you know, we're able to do that now.
OK, I love it. Let me get the legend.
Bobby Midnight BT Brandon think you're awesome.
Thank you very much Appreciate that.
Used to call on the fan when you were when you were on there Bob
from Vermont. I do remember you, Bobby.
Yeah, I remember you called quite a bit.
I think one time it was about for some reason, Bob and you
could, you know, parachute back in on, on the chat here.
I feel like you called me from a baseball field once.
I I oops, it's him calls. Let me shut that off.
I don't know if you were, I think you were working outside.
You were, you know, outdoorsman and you were either doing some
work on the farm or a baseball, but I definitely remember you
calling. We didn't get a ton of calls
from Vermont, but I definitely remember that too.
I appreciate that. Very nice.
I want to get in a little baseball here as well.
What else we got anything? I definitely.
See a baseball chat right here. Hey, let me get this real quick.
It's funny. Trade them to The Jets.
That'll show them. Bob Gable 2691 It's funny I
brought that up and listen, we were doing The Jets collected
that. I think this was episode #2 So
yeah, last night was 4. Next week is obviously 5.
We're doing it on Tuesday at 8. All right?
So it's not going to be at 7:00 on Tuesday.
It's going to be at 8. And the second show, I remember
throwing it out there, you know, and, and not to be one of these
guys that just throws nonsense out there, but more of a due
diligence perspective. I'm like, hey, listen, because
this was, I think it was the day that Dexter Lawrence basically
came out and said, I want to get dealt.
I'm like, hey, if you're The Jets, you make the call.
Like, why don't you at least make a call?
And you know, I didn't really think that they necessarily
should or that they would, but, you know, just have a little
conversation. We didn't give it a lot of time
there. But no, I mean, what he's saying
is you trade them to The Jets to show them how you know you want
to get back at them, I guess for wanting more money, which
doesn't seem incredibly fair. Seems a little petty.
You trade them to where you're going to get the best deal.
BT seriously, why does but this is DVDJ BB2026.
Why does Boone bench his best players?
I I honestly, I have no idea. It's driving me nuts.
It is like he's throwing some games away.
How do you expect to win without the best players?
I'm not even sure right now that they can win with their best
players. That's the problem.
I mean, really thinking on the night to night basis, how many
above average hitters do the Yankees roll out?
Judge, who's heating up another home run, Rice collar last night
but hitting 330, whatever he is and awesome.
And you know, half the time Bellinger, that's it.
I mean, you're rolling out basically 4 to 5 automatic outs.
Now I want to give Caballero some love.
He's shown some some grits and stones, but and and it's going
to be nice when he gets back to that super sub roll, you know.
But the other night Rosario was batting third, Ben.
And then the explanation by Boone is just something I don't
get, you know, and I get behind a lot of the things that Boone
does because I tend to I agree. I agree with a lot of things he
does because I look at it from the big picture, you know, you
know, from 30,000 miles above the land.
And I'm like, all right, what? What else do you really want him
to do? There's just a dearth of
options. But sit and Ben Rice should
never be considered. I mean, it's ridiculous unless
he's in an over 29 funk with 17 strikeouts and he just looks
absolutely lost and you're going up against school bull or
Garrett Crochet or some other sick, nasty lefty.
All right, hey, catch your breath, young man.
We'll get you back out there tomorrow against the righty.
I I don't have an answer for you.
It's madding. I do think that, and this is not
an excuse, it's just to contextualize it.
And again, I don't agree with it, but I think one of the
things that the Yankees do do pretty well is that they have
learned over the course of 162 what they need to prioritize and
when they need to prioritize. It doesn't mean I like what they
do in the offseason. It's not, you know, doubling
down and Co signing how they operate.
It's the exact opposite. I don't like what they do in the
offseason and I don't like the way Cashman operates.
So Brian Cashman has not earned the right to rebuild the Yankees
the way the Yankees need to be rebuilt.
I got to put that on T-shirts. Maybe it's going to actually
stick at some point. You know, you know how I feel
about Cashman in that regard, right?
But when I say prioritize what's really important and get a sense
what you have, and I'm talking about this yesterday I think it
came up Jay. But the Yankees tend to do this
more than other teams the 1st 40 games.
All right, see what you have the next 40 games kind of adjust and
then make the yeah, I mean 40 games and again, you want to
even say 50 we can go 50505050 and then you split the
difference on the final 12. So 1st 50 games, see what you
got coming out of Tampa spring training next 50 understand what
you don't have, go out there and get it and make the proper
adjustment before the deadline and then those final two months
after the deadline ish, go out there and you know go and take
your big swing at winning a championship, which they haven't
done since 2009. I mean, they brought him what, 6
or seven guys at the deadline last year.
They brought in Dovall, they brought in Bednar, they brought
in Rosario, they brought in Caballero.
I mean, and I know I'm missing one or two people picture from
the Rockies who got sent down like they made at least 6
editions. And I got to be honest with you
because I was, that was the day that I was having run lunch with
Alex Rodriguez and these moves are happening and I was liking
the moves and obviously Ryan McMahon was brought in and and
so was he. I'm more so with the bullpen.
And even though I did, I got admit I did want Ryan McMahon.
I did want Ryan McMahon because, you know, I knew he was a great
fielder. I watched him a lot against the
Mets, particularly early when he was a better hitter than he is.
I don't know what what he's become.
That was terrible. You got a wait I got a question
correct me if I'm wrong. Last night did he go for a bunt
just so he could record like get a hit?
Was that two nights ago? When did he go for the bunt?
I think it was two nights ago. I just saw that.
I know Wells, Wells, Wells did that last night.
I thought it was 2 game two games ago.
When when Yeah, he absolutely. Well, to me, See, I think that
that's unfair. Like if you're in, I mean,
listen, I mean to just to pile on, to pile on.
I I get it. I mean, you're a lefty with a
314 fence, foot fence. Oh yeah.
I mean hit what over the fence? You know, 315.
I mean, like, like some 12 year olds could do, 13 year olds
could do. But when you are that lost and
all you're doing is striking out and they're inviting you to drop
down a bunt and it's there, all you got to do is just push it
down the third baseline. I don't have a problem with
that. I really don't just you know,
because sometimes think about the old adage like a little
bloop, a little base hit those sometimes it could be the most
innocuous base hit. It could be A5 hopper through
the hole, right. It could be a broken bad
bleeder. The other way.
It could be doesn't have to be 115 off the bat.
It could be a little cheapy little swinging bunt and for
whatever reason you get on base and things kind of click.
Much like I, I've said this a lot with mink doing the games,
Saint John's where you know, whether it's like Zooby or one
of their better players over the years.
Like if someone if somebody's having a rough night and they're
quiet in the first half and they maybe they're old for five from
the field and they get fouled right and they go to the strike,
there's that like the positivity.
There's something real to be said.
I can't quantify it, but I believe it.
When you see a ball go through the net, even if it's on a foul
shot, a lot of times there's carry over to a jump shot.
You know, it just kind of clicks you in a little.
Bit so you just feel good. You do, you do.
So I think it's a similar concept.
I'm not going to go nuts on that.
But yeah, I mean, he's pretty soon he's going to be he's going
to try to hit right-handed like I try to play golf Friday.
That's the next step for Ryan McMahon.
What up, MO Cage? How you doing, buddy?
I appreciate that MO with the Super, super chat.
MO is a consistent super chat guy.
Thank you. Appreciate it man.
And most of men here, some of the other guys going to jump in
with that. I love him, but I would trade
Dexter just so we can have a better chance of winning a ring.
Giants aren't there yet, not even in the next couple of
years. All right, well, it's a it's a
very nice sentiment. You can leave that up a little.
Let his handle get some love there.
That's an interesting take here. I'd like to know how old you
are. Like, do you, were you old
enough to really enjoy the the last Giants Super Bowl?
That matters a little bit. How I process this it it's it's
a nice thought. It's a bit of a strange 1
though. Like imagine, I don't know if
it's quite akin to this, but imagine if me saying now the
Yankees are they don't look good this year, but the Yankees will
be good. Like the Yankees are good.
The Giants are not until proven otherwise.
So it's not apples to apples, I get that.
But it would be like me saying, you know what?
I'll see Aaron Judge win a ring, trade him to the Dodgers.
Like I again, I know it's not it's not nearly the same, but
it's a loosely interpreted concept.
You know, that's one the other thing too, But that's that's
your opinion. I respect it.
The only thing that I would really vehemently disagree with.
I think you're putting too much of a timestamp on where two
definitively saying giants can't win in a couple of years.
I mean, if Jackson Dart becomes what I I believe he's going to
become, you know, and then you look at the rest of the NFC.
Now this is I'll do it for I'll have a little fun with this.
All right, let's stretch things out in a couple of years, all
right? And first of all, he doesn't win
now, and I think he's very good. But what is DAC in two or three
years like, You don't really have to worry much about the
Cowboys. The Cowboys can't get out of
their own way. All right.
Is Jalen Hurts still an Eagle in a couple of years?
And if he is, you tell me the Jackson Dark can't be a much
better throw over the football than Jalen Hurts.
I think he is now already. You know, obviously the
Commanders, they got a young talented quarterback, but
they've got they don't have a lot of draft picks.
I think their finances a little bit like they're trying to reset
some stuff here. But the Commanders are
interesting, you know, do I think that like Sam Darnold,
even though he's a champion now, do I think that Darnold has a
stranglehold on the NFC with the seal?
No. You always got to respect the
Niners. But McCaffrey, Kittle, dudes
getting older. Brock Purdy's good, not
unbeatable. I'm just cherry picking.
Obviously, Lions are good. Lions are a good team.
You know, they took a step back last year.
Packers, I've got a lot of respect for them.
Yeah. I mean, but are you basically,
can you envision a situation where and if the answer is yes,
then that would contradict what you wrote, MO.
That's why I'm playing it out like this.
Can you envision a situation because I can in two to three
years where the Giants are among the best teams in the NFCI.
Could I could. Now, I would still trade Dexter
Lawrence, but that does contradict what you said because
you you basically don't think that that's possible.
And and I do because I think that, you know, you got to have
a really good draft or two for sure.
One more really awesome offensive lineman.
You got to shore up the third level defense.
I mean you have things you have to do clearly, but I don't know,
close your eyes and just envision, you know, Jackson
Dart, he stays healthy, You know, knock on wood, Dart in two
years, 7-8 more pounds of functional weight understands
the league better coaching, obviously the elite neighbors
fully back torn ACLA beast, a matchup nightmare.
I mean, you could start to see the giants ascending.
So I don't agree with that part, but I got you.
I got you on the other stuff here.
How far do I think? What do I think the Knicks hawk
series going to go Anthony OU 812.
Thank you. And we're going to do a lot of
NBA tomorrow. But I listen, I'll I'll give you
the the answer there because I did address this the other day.
I think the Knicks lose 1 game in the series and I think the
Knicks win. When I say fairly easily, I
don't mean that every score is like 117 to 92.
I don't. I don't mean that I think the
Knicks lose a game and I think that they've got 1 buzzer beater
ish type game at the Garden that they win.
Unlike Halliburton when that ball hits the moon and drops
down. I think it might be the opposite
this year, but I I think the Knicks are winning 5.
I feel pretty good about that. I do like the new pick and roll
with Catton and Brunson OG or at least the new dedication to
that. So it seems like they're tapping
into a deeper level of offense here and we'll see.
And like now that you talk about pressure points, this is it.
You know it Mike Brown that think about that.
I was reading something this morning and I got to do this
more tomorrow. But Tom Thibodeau was really
good, not great, really good and a lot of respect for Tom
Thibodeau. All right, really good.
Well, principled coach who won, fired.
And I thought that it was time to move on, to be fair.
But good coach fired. The Knicks won, what, 53 games
this year? Yeah, because they could have
won 54 if they didn't sit guys against the Hornets.
And that would have matched the record with Woodson, with Melo
and and Amore and and all those cats back in the the early 2010.
So if they don't go far this year, Mike Brown's going to be
fired. Now, the only thing that I would
worry about, and this is a deeper conversation for if and
when they lose. I don't want to just keep
putting this out there, but it's an interesting thought and it's
it's a reality that worries me. If you go think of the Knicks,
even if they're not a championship team right now, the
Knicks are bare minimum. They're a healthy team.
They're a healthy franchise. There's chemistry, even though
that's been a little talk about this year, like maybe guys,
whatever, But in terms of organizational cohesion is a
better way to put it. Like, you know, I think that
Leon Rose has done a really good job then Nick scouts seem to be
aligned. Dolan's been quiet.
All the other people in upper management, you know, no loose
lips, you know, no league stories, no drama, no nonsense,
Just 50 plus wins again, right? But if you now go back-to-back
years with 50 plus win coach for a franchise that only did that a
couple of times this entire century, and you whack not one
but two of those guys in back-to-back years, is it a fair
fear all right, that the health of the organization would be
shifting back in the direction that none of us want any part
of? I don't know the answer to it.
I'm just throwing it out there. Interesting.
Let me get Sean B50D. Sean, what's up, buddy?
How you doing, man? Always felt the hordest jersey
embrace the 90s. Yeah, no doubt.
Flair. Remember?
They look like the 90s. Jazz paper cup colors.
Purple, turquoise, white. Look.
No, I remember them. I told you I had a pair of Rex
chat. Well, I didn't have Rex Chapman
shorts. I had a pair of Charlotte Hornet
shorts because I loved Rex Chapman.
Love them. Speaking of shorts, J Rod,
you're gonna love this as a basketball guy.
What an idiot. Classic.
I know. That's dope.
That's. Cups of all time.
Man, yeah. And then you had, you know,
Larry, Grandma, Mom with the converse and the commercial and
he and Zoe just couldn't figure it out, man.
They just, they just could not get along.
They were both they were young bucks fighting for the the power
seat, you know, and the money, and once Alonzo got all that
money, obviously that was that was a big story out there, but
they were fun to watch. Curry step's dad, as I
mentioned, mugsy a good team. Speaking of shorts, right, so I
can't imagine. I can't imagine what I would say
if my son did this. I'd be like, are you an idiot?
What's wrong with you? That's what I would and then I
wouldn't let him wear them. So I I so quick Side Story.
I think you know this to an extent.
Go to Xavier, make the basketball team as a freshman,
Good player, not great, right? But always in detention, always
miss practice. Didn't get to play that much
because I'd never was in practice.
And then next year they're like, you got to figure it out, You're
not on the team. And I'm like, and I was
heartbroken. So JVI was not on the team and I
should have been. Again, not a star.
Absolutely should have been a four year basketball player and
it's one of my greatest regrets even to this day.
I talked to my dad about it. I'm like, man, it it it kills me
that I messed up, but you got to you got to own it right?
So, but I still wanted to play and I wound up playing in AI.
Forget the name of the league, you know, along Flatbush Ave.
right. I tell you, we were we were the
only white team in the league. We were the only white team in
the league and it was awesome. We go to, if you know, Brooklyn,
we go to like, and we'd take the buses or the trains as a, as a,
as a team, like we, I didn't have a car.
We would go, we'd play like Beverly Rd.
Newkirk Ave. Cortel you Rd. like along the Q
train. OK.
We, we, we, you know, Well, you're in Brooklyn now, so you
know what I'm talking. About, I know the Q train line,
yeah. Yeah, Yep, Yep, yeah.
Church Ave. right, Some of the Parkside Ave. and we'd roll into
these gyms, you know, all white team and we didn't win the
league, but we were good. We were pretty competitive.
And this is around the time of the Fab 5.
Can you believe that? I had because our uniform was
blue. So I had AI, but I didn't like
the shorts. So I got a pair of Michigan
shorts and it's like Michigan basketball on the on the thigh.
And they were a little baggy. I had to have the baggy shorts.
Can you believe that? I actually took it to a sporting
goods store and you know what I put on the back of the shorts
basically No, no, like, you know, with the, with the iron
like. That Oh yeah, the iron press.
Professionally, somebody did it for me.
Do you know what I put on the back of my shorts?
No. What?
Swish. I swear to God.
Do you? What the hell am I?
What was it? You.
Still have this by any chance? No, probably not dude, that
would be iconic. Who the hell do you think you
are? Was it on the waistband or the?
No, it was. It was on my ass.
You can see it because my jersey was tucked in and I wanted
everybody to see something. Dude, that is what in the world
are you doing, bro? And, and, and now to a little
context there. The only reason I even thought
about doing that at that point, a lot of the college teams on
their practice shorts had defense or others.
Like it was a little thing for a minute.
I didn't just out of nowhere say, you know, I I could shoot,
let me put swish on on my behind, you know, with A2 guard
on this team. What?
Dude, that is because I mean, to me now, I think about it like
you would see something like that in like the women's section
at like forever, you know? Oh.
Yeah, they have like juicy or the juicy stuff, right?
Exactly like they'd. Have some shorts this that is
too. Funny.
And it wasn't small letters, it was big gold.
Amazing gold. I bet I have a feeling shorts
like that go for a lot of money now because.
I wish I had what's. Very popular now are the old
school and one T-shirts where it's like really where it'll be
like the kind of stick figures and it'll be like your ankles
are going to prison or something like that, like.
The N1 slogan. Yeah, with like the N1 slogan.
Those shirts go for like 7080. Are you serious now?
Yeah. I, I had, I remember, I remember
a couple times like early when N1 was becoming popular, one of
the coaches is when I was at ESPN Radio, 1 of the coaches
came in and we were just chatting whatever.
And he brought us and I think they had to deal with N1 and he
brought us like sneakers and some N1 gear got hooked up.
I was never a big N one guy, were you?
I mean no. No, no, because I feel like for
me at least growing up, N1 is more so listen not to say like
this, but like it was definitely more.
It was definitely more, not even necessarily cheaper, just more
so so like all right, it's at Walmart like in that one section
with like the shacks and all that stuff.
Like I don't know if I was necessarily gravitating towards
that. I was not and like the
strawberries and all that stuff. Exactly, Yeah.
Yeah, Didn't. I don't know if you'll remember
this. Didn't Othello Harrington come
out with a pair of sneakers back in the day?
Yeah. Yeah.
And they were like 999. Can you check that out real
quick? I remember for a minute.
Not, No. Not Othello Harrington.
Hold on. Not Othello Harrington from
Georgetown. Joe McKee Noah had a pair with a
man called Lecox Portif. Oh no, he those were old tennis
sneakers and his dad as a tennis player, Yannick no, Lecox Portif
was was a big deal. It was like he the Stan Smith's,
you know, Oh no, that was a big deal in in tennis back in the
like he on board, but like that Jimmy Connor's.
That whole McEnroe era. Oh yeah, Izod, who the hell was
it? Who was the Harrington?
Wait, wait. Al Harrington.
Who Othello Harrington went to Georgetown?
No, Al. Al Harrington.
Can you check if Al Harrington had a pair of sneakers when he
was with the Knicks? I'm almost positive.
Protege. We did?
Yep. How much?
Al Harrington, 6 1/2. I mean, now they're only on
eBay. Yeah.
Wow they were cheap bucks. 84 bucks on eBay for a pair?
That's not even a bad deal considering how like potentially
rare they could be. I got a sneaker for you and
we're going to do A and J Rod, you're going to be a part of
this. I'm going to do some separate
content and yeah, I've done like the Yankees all time lineup, the
Mets all time lineup, the all time Biggies team.
So I haven't done that in a little bit.
I've been so busy with the show. We're going to do some other
content, whether youth sports and you know, favorite wrestlers
and and favorite bands. We'll have a little fun with
that. Not hour long presentations like
10 little snippets, 10 minute snippets.
And I want you to to join him when I do the sneaker one.
I will give you a hint. I I know I brought it up a while
ago. The Kangaroos The Kangaroos
Walter Payton used to wear kangaroo cleats because I
remember seeing a Walter Payton kangaroo poster at sneaker
corner on on a no on Avenue H Ave.
Y whatever it was right in Brooklyn back in the day and I'm
not I didn't have the cleat, but then they came out with a
kangaroo basketball. They're so.
Cool dude. Wow, these are so cool.
No, but they are. I've never seen these before.
Dang, never. Not once.
I've never heard of Kangaroos. These what?
Color. Are you looking at the high
tops? What?
Color OK, I'm looking at the high top blue and red ones right
now, but there's also like a cool like high Oh no, these are
like football cleats. Never.
Mind no, I didn't have. Those, yeah, I'm looking at like
a blue and red one, but there's also like, it's almost like
denim. It's like a dark blue denim.
Oh, I don't remember. Those.
That's interesting. Yeah, it's a little weird, but.
The best part about those, the Kangaroos and I had the me and
my buddy Timmy were the only ones who really had the
Kangaroos. I remember this is that, you
know, you think about a kangaroo, you put the little
baby in the pouch, right? Obviously that's what the Mama
kangaroo does, right? So the kangaroo concept was the
tongue, like it was an elongated tongue for the sneaker and on
the of the side of the tongue that's basically facing the top
of your foot so people can't see it was a little zipper so you
can put your key to get back into your house.
Yeah. And that's that's what I'm
thinking. Of.
Yeah. That's what I'm thinking of.
And you could put a dollar bill or some quarters and when the
ice cream guy comes, you can get get a couple drinks.
That that's what we did. You laughing?
All right, now let me ask like that.
Did people use that they put a little Roach in it or a little
like? No like.
That's all I can think of, I mean.
A little paraphernalia. Similar concept where it was a
South Park collaboration. OK, the shoe was basically
designed as like the towel character from South Park, and
it had a pocket similarly in the back of the tongue.
Are you serious? But they marketed it as like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, exactly like the 420 sneaker.
The 420 happy 4 it's almost a almost happy 420 day.
Happy 4 day. No, that first of all, I was too
young to even think about that #1 #2 it would have to be 1 tiny
ass little Roach because there was, I remember there not being
although there was enough to fit a key.
So. But as I remember the depth, the
depth of the zipper wasn't in. But I was young.
I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't be messing around.
I think I had those when I was like 11 or 10 or maybe maybe 10.
They were cool. They're.
Cool, no I'm I'm definitely going to check them out after
your couch. I tried to bring them back in O
5 and got clowned in the. Hood.
But I tried it. Yeah, yeah, we would get clowned
a little bit because, you know, again, I I don't think anybody
else had them. Like me and Timmy had them and,
and I loved them. And like my buddy Dandy had like
the Adidas forums, which were hot, you know, I, I never had
those. My buddy Pat had the Converse
star techs. Chad had like spot builds or
Brooks. Yeah, it was all pretty diverse.
Now that I think I don't know what Jo, who's no longer with
us. Jonathan, rest in peace, man.
Jonathan was a big Adidas guy with the fat laces and the shell
top, which I used to have the fat laces too, which my dad
hated. But I, you know, I rocked the
fat laces. Yeah, I don't know that any.
I don't even know how popular the Kangaroos were.
I'm not saying it was like a, a nationwide phenomenon.
I, I, I don't even know if they were in every single store for
whatever reason. I like them and they were cool
And they, it's not like they were 20, Like it's not like they
were 15 bucks, no. I'm finding a lot of cool used
ones though in still pretty good condition, so honestly I might
pull. I might pull.
All right, here we go. Clr 8810.
What's going on? Appreciate that.
Thank you very much. My mom took me to Payless as a
kid and she bought me a pair of strawberries for 15 bucks.
Got cooked so bad at school, never wore them again.
Peer pressure. You let it get to you, man.
Here's the problem though. Hold on a SEC.
Now here's the oh, that's an interesting question.
I know. Leave that out.
Here's the problem with the with getting cooked with the with the
strawberries like it. I don't think it was so much
about the sneaker. It was really about like where
the Knicks were at that point and that Moreberry, rightfully,
rightly or wrongly, was kind of the source of the consternation
along with Isaiah for basically every Knick fan, you know.
So if Moreberry was dealing and he was a very talented player,
as we know, my God. But if he was like putting up 22
and 8, like he generally did, but the Knicks were winning and
he had maybe he used to sulk a lot.
And then it got really bad at the end where they made him sit
at the end of the bench and Larry and he, him and Larry
Brown. My God, it was awful.
But yeah, I, I never had the store.
I was way too old. I was certainly not buying
strawberries when I was 30 something years.
Old. OK, at Notorious Ghido Dole
Dole. There you go.
At Notorious Dole 3. Thank you, Jay.
Rod, any advice for a 44 year old?
Look at his. Look at his avatar, too.
Michael Myers. So sick.
That guy used to scare the shit out of me.
My. Yeah, that's a, that's a scare.
That's one of the, that's the one of the ones that like as a
kid, you go, oh, man, yeah, you get away from the TV.
Yeah, like for whatever reason, you know, I know that Freddy
Krueger, when he would pop up and he'd give you that ominous,
like with the with the blades. Like, that was pretty freaky
too. I always found that.
I'll answer this in a moment. For me, I always found that that
like the the horror characters, that could be real.
Yeah, the scariest. Oh, but I mean, it must.
Well, I don't know. The ring definitely scared me
the most as a kid. But yeah, that was freaking
that. Other than that, you're
definitely right. Like the guys where it's like,
hey, it could happen. Yeah, like, let's, let's just
call for what it is. I mean, Freddy Krueger being
burned to a crisp and coming out with Razor Blitz.
It's not happening. You know, God forbid if you get
burned that that badly, you're not going to be walking around,
you know, obviously. But like, all right.
You're telling me that you can't see somebody putting on that
mask and walking around town and doing something?
Of course you can. And I was in.
What is that town up in? Oh, God, why am I forgetting the
name of this town? The witches, the witches up
Salem. Salem.
Thank you.
We went to Salem and it wasn't
even Halloween because we had gone to the Red Sox game that
weekend and it was, I think we had just gotten married or we
were engaged and no kids yet. It was myself and, and, and my
wife or my, my fiance, my in laws or future in laws, my
brother-in-law, future brother-in-law, whatever.
What? And we're walking around, you
know, go to lunch, have a nice time, go look at some stuff.
Go to the Red Sox game, middle of the day, we're in Salem.
And again, it's not Halloween. I matter of fact, I'll tell you
when it was. It was in April because I, that
just happened to coincide my last day at 10:50.
This trip was planned. So I was in a bad mood.
You know, my, of course, my, my wife was mad.
Like, well, let's go wake up. We're on vacation.
So and my last day at 10:50 after about 10 years was in
April. So it was in April and we're
walking around Salem and some dude wearing a Jason Boris mask
holding a machete is walking the streets of Salem.
Wow. Yeah, that is freaky.
And I feel like we had bikes for some reason.
We had or we maybe, maybe my, no, my nephew, the actor
Stranger Things Carson, great kid, great young man.
He I'm going to get him on the show at some point and talk
about stranger things and, and, and the dust and stuff.
It's just, it's just I have to find when we're going to do it.
And he was, he starred in a movie that I had a little tiny
role in which great actor and A and a better young man, right.
So anyway, good ball player too and great family.
So I think he was just born because I remember I thought it
was a bike. It was a stroller.
And I, I see this guy, we're sitting inside eating, and I see
this dude pacing across the street with the Jason Boris mask
and a machete. Fuck, is this guy doing, man?
And I'm just like, I look, I tell my father-in-law, I'm like,
look at this guy. So we go outside and then we
forgot about it. You know, it was broad daylight.
I was like noon, we're having brunch.
And then two hours later, we, we see him again at a different
location. And like we're walking this way
to the camera and he's walking toward us on the same side of
the street. And I just this is an old school
thing. Not not that I ever had to do
this like really. But you know, God forbid, if you
thought you might have to, you, you would take your keys and you
would put your keys like it was. It would almost be like.
A brass knuckle sort of thing, but it like, yeah, kind of like
a knife. Like, you know, Jesus.
Talk about. Old school, like God forbid if
something's happening on the train and like there's real like
back in the day, nobody has keys like that anymore anyway, So but
I spiked, I had a key in each in each finger and, and I just
remember like we all kind of gravitated to the side and I
just, I just remember I had my hand like this.
And I will tell you as much as it sounds like, oh, you know,
Timmy, tough guy getting ready to throw down.
I was terrified, like my heart was beating so fast because I
know where we are and I understand, you know, the
traditions. I get it.
But you know, it's like a Comic Con or like it's a, you know,
you dress up superhero. I get it.
But it was the freakiest encounter that I've ever had.
So anyway, I just saw that avatar and I just remember even
though speaking. Not Speaking of, but we got, I
don't know if it's that, I don't know, intense it's.
All right. Richard Lovelady to the
Nationals for cash consideration.
Richard Lovelady. He's, I mean, yeah.
He's sorry, but. Yeah, no, I listen.
All right? Listen.
Something happens, you drop it in.
He just can't be on the team. The jokes right themselves.
Number 1, he stinks. That the name is ridiculous.
No, he's just all right. Did the Mets pay the Nationals
too or did the Nats pay him? So literally just a cash.
I got you. Good job on that.
Jay at the sirens scared me actually.
I hadn't heard it in a while and I thought and then when I heard
I'm like who did Dexter Lawrence get down?
All right. So any advice for a 44 year old
lefty that wants to get into golf here?
Should I start at the range, switch to righty or lessons
mandatory? Live in central New Jersey golf,
the absolute bane of my existence.
I would say I'd like to know, are you athletic?
You know, like that? Not that that really matters.
You could be a slob and be a three handicap.
But just curious like any baseball background, any hockey
background that's similar swing there.
And if I ask because if you if you played baseball and you were
a lefty hitter like me, which is the only reason I started
playing golf lefty, which has been a ridiculously sad journey,
I would say, and without knowing those specific answers, I would
say start around the green. And you know, this is actually
pretty common, but nobody does it.
And you've heard pros talk about this.
Start even on the green. Learn how to roll the putt.
Get in the vicinity, right? You know, get to a point where
you know, on I don't mean a slope of 147 where you know,
where you just get your brains kicked in all day.
You know, a fairly benign course.
And that's what you should start at 1:18 one 15117, you know,
flat 360 yard par fours. Don't, don't kill yourself.
You know, 137 yard par threes, right?
And by starting on the green and it's going to seem boring.
I want, you want to hit the ball.
I get it. You want to feel that sensation
and you don't get that with putting.
But then you gradually work closer to the tee box and now
you have a little wedge in your hand and I mean literally a
little 5 foot chip. I'm not saying you're going to
open the club face and do a flop shot like Phil Mickelson, but
just learn how to get the ball in the vicinity of the hole with
confidence where you're not sculling it and you're not
dribbling it or you're not whistling 1 sideways, which is
going to happen to you anyway at some point.
I promise you that. OK, how good you are.
But I, I think that that's, that really is the biggest thing
like, and I'll tell you, you know, I don't want to talk about
my golf game too much because it's not much to say.
But I really think at this point, if I was in A and it's
relative, a good putter and a good chipper, I don't know that
I'd ever play like that's my salvation because I can go on
the tee and you know, I can hit one wherever the heck I'm going
to hit 1. You pick a spot.
It could be that spot and then Lord knows what happens with the
hybrid or the five iron, whatever.
But as I get in the vicinity, when I when I get even now with
righty with a, with a, you know, like a gap wedge, I noticed I'm
getting pretty good height and I feel pretty good on that from
like those 7080 yard shots and those chips, you know, bump and
runs 30-40 yards in and then like 30 feet in, 40 feet in
terrible in the sand. That's a different game.
Leave the sand for a pro. But that's where you really lose
a lot of shots. You know, the hard thing is to
score. And yes, it's very challenging
for me to hit the ball the way I want to hit regularly.
I've been frequently I just don't do it enough, right.
But the more challenging thing I think for the average golfer is
to when you're around the green to get up and down and not going
to get up and down right away. But like think about this, say
if you hit, say if you bomb, like a lot of golfers that just
are forget about the dribbles and the little whatever else you
do, the worm burners say if you a lot of golfers have a tendency
to slice, they don't finish whatever.
They don't turn things over and they just kind of push it out
there. Maybe their alignment's a bit
off. So if you're a righty, you know,
maybe you put one in the trees or the other fairway, right,
kick it around under a tree, whistle it out all right now.
But you can still hit the ball pretty far even if you're not a
good golfer, right? And even if it's in the wrong
direction. But now if you're like 2530
yards away from the pin, that's where you waste all the shots.
And if you can get instead of taking, you know, two or three
chips to get on and then 3 or 4 putts, think about how many
shots that is. If you could save a putt and a
chip, a a, a putt and a chip each hole.
I know that that's very ambitious.
But if you could think like that, and I mean you look at the
36, you know, 18 holes times 2 is 36.
That's 36 shots that are not going on your scorecard and
snowman's and nines or dashes if you pick up whatever it might
be. So I would say to start with
that you, you want to learn how to grip the club properly.
Yeah. And I would go to a pro.
I would go to a pro. I, I, why not?
And and, you know, ask him, I mean, ask him if he agrees with
what I just said. But having played a lot of golf
and a lot of bad golf, and having played with a lot of
players good and bad, I feel like around the green, I can't
tell you how many times I've played with guys, you know who,
who smash it and then like they chunk a chip and I got to hit
another one. Then they skull it.
Now they're off the green. Now they're short on their putt.
Then they're long on their putt. Like it's just it really, that's
where you lose shots. Should have on Jazz as a kest on
4/20 as an ode to his state of mind during the games.
I don't think Jazz is playing stoned.
I don't think he's playing stoned.
I mean, although who knows? I mean, you know, I don't even
want to. I take that back.
I think that like, forget about jazz.
Do I think that there are some some I know basketball players
do because. There's literally Lamello Ball.
He didn't even get in trouble. There was like a couple years
ago. There's a little controversy.
Oh yeah. Before the game, he posted on
his Instagram Story. Literally, I didn't see that.
It was on his Instagram story, him smoking a blunt before the
playoff game. They won, they won the game.
It was crazy. Pathetic to see that joke.
It was crazy. The hell out.
I mean, that's just stupid stuff right there, man.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't be. You have to function at all.
I don't know how you'd hit a baseball high.
I don't know, I mean. Well, there's that famous game
that you know, I mean, there's 10 million videos on it, like
the one where the guy pitched the pert.
What is a dove, Ella? What's?
Doc Elvis what is on Ellis Acid? Doc Ellis, Yeah, when he's on
acid, he pitches the perfect game.
Yes, there's like that story. That was and I had heard that
story trickle down over the years.
There was a documentary a while, I think it was one of the
earlier Netflix docs. I really do.
It was great. And I guess he was at his, I
think he was married, but I think he was at his girlfriend's
house, whatever the hell it was, and he was on the Pirates.
And was he was he on the Pirates when he threw it?
I think he was. Either way, he didn't know that
he was pitching. I guess he was on an all night
Bender on Yeah for the Pirates. Pirates, Right.
And he's reading the paper, somehow, reading the paper on
acid in the morning, and he's like, oh shit, I'm pitching
today. So he gets to the stadium and he
threw a no hitter on acid. Yeah.
God Almighty, that is. Just fun.
It's such a funny story. Wait, I want to see we have a
comment. I want to see if this is true.
No, it is true. Well, I think I believe Tyron
Lue got fired. I'm not too sure.
OK. It looks like OK, it looks like
it's, it's like imminent. It's about to happen.
Gotcha. All right.
Not a surprise. Yeah, definitely not a surprise.
Let me get you a couple things from the baseball last night
here. So, I mean, one more loss and
the Mets have their longest streak since 2004.
The Mets have lost eight straight games.
They've got the second or third W worst record in baseball.
And they are, they just look impotent.
They look lifeless. I thought last night Mendy was,
you know, transparently raw and like, oh, we got to start
playing better this, you know, no excuses, No, well, did
nothing. We don't look good.
Another play by Lindor where you're like, dude, what are you
thinking? It's a 3 hopper that's not hit
hard. You got to attack the baseball.
And you could tell that he knew that he messed up based on how
quickly he got rid of the ball. It wasn't like he mistimed it.
He misread it. And then he's like, oh shit, let
me speed up. And Eddie and you know, I think
it was Hernandez beat him by 1/2 a step.
Another base running gaffe. Now, this was a little harder,
and this was Francisco Alvarez. Where Beatty hit a liner to left
field and it was trapped and it was.
It was a tough play. See, here's the problem, though.
That's why Alvarez's head wasn't in the game.
If Alvarez. Here's the way that ball should
be played, all right, because you all you don't see him like
off the Bay, at least the camera angles that I saw.
You don't see him like in between.
You just see the playing left field, the sprawling catch off
the hop. So obviously, you know, not not
caught cleanly throw to second base out because it's a force
right, because it was trapped. What you should see.
I don't have a that's a tough read.
I'm going to be fair. But if your heads in the game,
all right, what you should do is be at least halfway to second
base. So if he does trap it, you can
jog to second base. And guess what, you're going to
be safe if he catches it, unless Bellinger, you know, pulls like
we did, like he did a year ago when he banged out soda with
first base, right, that play Yanks and Mets in the Subway
Series. That 6th row from left field,
you know, you're going to be able to retreat.
Even if you're not a, you know, a fast runner, you're going to
get back to first base. What you can't do is what he
did. You can't be on the base looking
around like what happened, what happened?
I don't know. You got a first base coach,
you've got a third base coach, you've got multiple, multiple
umpires. Figure it out.
Open your eyes, open your ears and play the game with some
urgency. So, you know, will they scratch
out four or five hits again? I mean, it is, it is utterly
ridiculous. And then I, you know what,
somebody who hasn't really gotten a lot of heat this year
and you know, why should he? He's a young player.
Before last night, I think he was hitting third last or
whatever it was. But he's not going to get
crushed. Brett Beatty, because he's not
your Olindor profile or somebody like that.
Brett Beatty doesn't have a walk yet on the season.
He's the only player in Major League Baseball with the
requisite amount of bats yet to draw a walk.
I mean, you're talking about basic shit here with the Mets.
I mean, anytime there is a three hopper now, it's a one hop
rocket. You don't have to move it all,
all right? If it's obviously a little teeny
tiny 7 or 8 hop, you know, dribbler, you got to come in,
attack it one hand bare handed and make the throw off off your
right foot. You know, going with your
momentum towards the mound. The catcher, if you're a
shortstop, if there's a 2 hopper, you can lay back.
It's going to get to you if it's a 3 hopper like I, I was
actually looking for this and I could not find it so that you
can't find everything because I was unless one of you watch one
of you guys will find it here before the end of the show.
I did a pretty deep dive this morning because I know the
answer, but I just wanted to see if there was a percentage or
some sort of, you know, quantifiable stat on the, the
amount of like the times or the percentage that shortstops don't
attack 3 hoppers like I was. I was genuinely that curious
because I want to be fair. I want to be fair to all these
guys. But again, asleep at the wheel,
absolutely asleep. And then Lindor strikes out.
He smiles. Like, you know, I, it's just I,
I don't, I don't know, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's getting
bad. And I'm not going to change my
tune from yesterday. Mets will not, I shouldn't say
they will not. They should make a managerial
move until you get Soto back, who's I guess going to start
running soon. And you know, he's already been
out, but 8-9 it got, I think it was retroactive to April 4th.
So today's the 16th. You're talking 12 days.
And he hasn't really started his running progression yet.
So I don't think we see Soto for another two weeks.
And if it's anything more than that, even though he's won Soto,
he's probably going to require a game or two of the miners, like
a little rehab. Don't maybe, maybe you could
simulate stuff. I don't know, maybe he's so
good, maybe he doesn't need that.
But I would like to see Mendoza have a chance to rectify this
with Juan Soto back in, in his customary, you know, 2-3 slot.
If you want to mix things up a little bit, put them three.
I, I, But this is just, this is unacceptable.
I mean, this is, it is sloppy. It is uninspiring, and it's
consistently sloppy and consistently uninspired.
There's not a damn thing good about the Mets right now outside
of starting pitching. Like, McClain was great.
Holmes was solid. He didn't even know if he'd make
the start because he hurt his hamstring last game, remember,
he had to come out. But I mean, whether it's
defense, Roberts been playing really good defense in center
field as well, but you know, his average is plummeted.
Bichette hasn't really done a damn thing.
Lindor's got one RBI. Bailey's been quiet.
Alvarez started out hot, Now he's cold against Simeon.
Looks washed. I don't know what to tell you
here, man, except that I think that I think that Mets fans
right now, I think that Mets fans absolutely hate this
version of the Mets. I think they can't in in Lord,
I'm talking majority, I mean all of you.
I think the majority of you can't stand David Stearns.
I believe that the majority of you no longer believe in
Mendoza. And I believe maybe not the
majority of you, but I believe a decent amount of you are.
And I don't even know if this is fair, but I do believe a decent
amount of you are souring on the owner.
I believe many of you, if not I, I think an overwhelming
percentage of you are absolutely done with Francisco Lindor.
And I said a year or two ago, go Google it, go find it.
There's receipts. I said that Lindor is going to
eventually become the absolute lightning rod of frustration for
the Mets. Ain't going to be Sodo.
He's bulletproof for now. Mendy will be long gone by that
time. And if things keep going awry,
Sterns will be gone and, you know, all these Simeon will be
gone and Robert will be gone and all these other dudes will be
gone. And there'll be one guy, unless
he's dealt or unless he wakes up.
And the Mets, in turn, wake up and start playing better
baseball. I mean, many of you already
turned on Lindor. You already have for a lot of
reasons. So the Mets are a train wreck.
There's no other way to put it. They look the Mets.
And I know that this is not the case.
I'm not trying to like, you know, I'm not trying to be that
guy. But I say this for effect, even
though I know it's not true. Like if you told me that the
Mets didn't go to Port Saint Lucie for a day.
They just showed up opening weekend and they started the
season. No BP, no infield outfield, no
base running drills. Maybe the pitchers got their
side sessions in and their bullpens in, right?
Because they look pretty good. But from a positional
perspective, the Mets, they're, I mean, they are, they're
drowning. They are drowning.
So that's the story with the Mets.
Oh, and one other thing, too. You know, I was excited.
I watched most of the game last night, fell asleep toward the
end. But I, you know, I didn't love
the broadcast last night. Odd.
Joe Buck, who I do like. And as a Yankee fan, I always
thought it was nuts. Like I thought it was
ridiculous. Many of you got on like McCarver
and Buck. Oh, they hate the Yankees.
I never felt that. Like I don't really lean into
that stuff. The only thing that I'll react
to is is a bad broadcast. All right.
Not so much like they're they're one sided or favoritism.
You think these guys give a shit who wins?
I mean Bucks making millions upon millions upon millions, Ron
Darling's incredibly well compensated SNY national level
or Hershiser and money coming up the wazoo.
They don't. I mean, obviously Darling played
for the Mets and Hershiser Dodgers, so you had that little
component there. Of course Ronnie wanted the Mets
to win and or wanted the Dodgers to win.
I don't have a problem with that, but I don't, I don't
really lean into bias in broadcast, but I do acknowledge
what a broadcast stinks. I don't.
Last night's broadcast was terrible.
I didn't think Buck was really good and I'm a big Darling fan.
Ronnie was the best of the three.
Or Hershiser. And it's funny because I
interviewed Oral Hershiser at Fanatics Fest 2 years ago.
We had him on set. Maybe he was even last year, I
don't even know. But me and Sal, and he was
awesome, man. He was cool.
Obviously a great fertile mind. He's just too monotone.
Like I thought his voice was weak.
I had an issue with the lack of projection.
I don't, I don't know. I think Ronnie's great.
And I think Buck is usually really good.
I don't need to hear that broadcast Team Eddie ever again.
I did not think it was very good at all.
Did not enjoy it. Put me to sleep.
Actually. The legend.
Bobby Midnight. What up there, Bobby Brandon.
I called in waiting for my brother Mike.
He was getting pizza Frost at Domino's.
This is the dude talking about when you when he was he called
in. He was the guy from Vt and you
were asking if when he called was he at the baseball field?
OK, gotcha. Yeah, buddy, up in Vermont.
OK, there you go. I appreciate that.
Thank you for the confirmation there.
Thank you very much. Now.
Getting some pizza. Yeah, yeah.
Go outside to get the papers. Get the papers, going outside to
get the pizza. Get the pizza.
Now the Yankees were obviously lucky last night because you had
two, you know, 2 ball players at the Major League level who did
not did not communicate properly on a pop up and did not react
properly that was. Ridiculous, that thing just.
Wow, All right, So first of all, you got a little lucky there,
there's no question. But I did I, I do think while
Rojas, that was a very aggressive send on Austin Wells.
And if Wells takes just a a little bit less of a of a direct
route or maybe more not even maybe more specifically if that
ball is not cut off and there's no way that ball should have
been cut off. That ball was in short left
center field. I mean, Mike Trout's got to put
that on A1 hop, not even one hop.
You got to throw that a dime to the catcher's belt, bang, boom
out out by 6 feet. I mean, that is a that's like to
me, the equivalent would be like a 6-7 or a six, eight NBA player
trying to dunk a ball. It went when nobody's really, I
don't mean dunk on somebody, just dunk like that's simple.
I mean, it really was in short left center field and you came
up for why the hell are you relaying that the extra second
or two on the exchange, the catch, even though he's turned
proper to catch the throw safe. I mean, you got to throw that
straight through. Weird.
So they got a little lucky here, but they also created some luck
and they capitalized on on the good fortune.
Now listen, maybe the Yankees win a walk off on a three run
bomb, even if that pop up by Jazz is caught, I don't know.
Maybe the Yankees lose, I don't know.
Yankees bullpens been pretty bad.
So even though you're at home, you get the last, you know,
ghost runner. All that stuff probably works
out favorably. Although last year the Yankees
numbers in extra innings was horrendous.
So I shouldn't really grant them anything.
They don't know what would happen, but they won the game.
And I'm very curious where this goes now because it's the kind
of win, you know, whether it's the wild pitch earlier in the
series or, you know, with McMahon and, and, you know,
Caballero coming home to to score or last night Caballero
getting it. You're starting to at least see
a little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of connectivity with
the Yankees here. Judge now another home run.
He's got 7. You need guys to start waking
up. Nothing they do over the next
month. I don't care what they do.
McMahon, Jazz, you know, I got to show Caballero respect.
He's he's doing some good things here.
But, you know, even Austin Wells, who had walked a couple
times, All right, great on base two or three times.
Good start. It's about time.
Like, I think that the Yankee issues at the bottom of the
order, they're not going to resolve themselves here.
Yankees have to get better. Yankees need to make changes.
Yankees got a hope that Volpe gets his act together, comes and
plays short, caballeros a sub, figure out their base.
You know, Dominguez may be in left field.
You want to catch Ben Wright. You want to put Bellinger at
first base. You want to.
There's a lot of things you could do.
And even maybe down, down, down the road this year if he
continued, if he continues to crush AA and then he gets to
look at AAA. And you say organizationally,
all right, we're not viewing Lombard as a savior because
we're desperate. He's earned an elevation to the
big league team there. There are several different
iterations, not to mention the trade market, where the Yankees
could get better and they're going to have to get better.
But at least you got to have a starting point.
You know, like, think about this.
The Yankees had lost five in a row, then they beat the Angels,
then they lost and they won the games.
They won two out of three. Like you get to a point in a
season where I'm not looking for style points on wins.
You don't think the Mets fan will be pumped up right now if
the Dodgers miscommunity miscommunity came in a pop up
and they had a double steal and and it worked out favorably and
they won the game. But you'd be like, all right,
ugly stuff. But maybe this is going to be
the the launch point here. I don't know because there's
still a lot of things about the Yankees that that worry me.
But, you know, I the send by Rojas, I am a believer in
putting stress on defenses. That's the kind of play if
Wells. Now, if the Angels run that
properly and there's no relay, if Wells, Wells is out by 5 feet
and Rojas is getting crushed, especially, you know, if the
Yankees lose the game crushed, but they won the game.
And you know, it's one of those things and it's a fine line.
It's like sometimes the wrong move can work out, but it's
still the wrong move. Sometimes the wrong move can
work out and even though it's the wrong move, it could kind of
change the energy or the dynamics of the team.
So it was clearly based on how many outs there were, where the
ball was hit, who was, who's the base runner in, in terms of
Wells on the go from first base, all those things wrong, wrong,
wrong. What was right about it was that
he was safe and the Angels messed up and you put stress and
maybe that's a situation. Remember when Lindor got thrown
out at the plate against the Pirates on that Soto 11 thing
meant early in the year. One thing Mendoza said was that
they knew going into that series that it was their conviction as
a team. Hey, we got to make them throw
the ball because if if they do, they're going to kick it around.
They're a little sloppy. And we've got to make them play
urgently because when they speed up, that's when we're going to
capitalize. And maybe that's what the
Yankees got. I mean, I'm not going to sit
here and say I know the defensive metrics for the
Angels. I don't.
But if that was part of their scouting report and or or Boon
before the game said to his coaches, hey, we're we're
aggressive tonight. Enough of this nonsense.
We're going on everything. Let's go, let's wake up and
let's try to jump start this thing.
I don't know what was said, but if that was said, kudos.
There you go. Like you, you don't snap out of
something by being passive. And there's no guarantee that
this is, you know, I get a launch point to winning seven of
eight and the Yankees looking healthy.
And even if they do, I still think, as I said, there's things
that they got to fix. But I would much rather I'd much
rather be aggressive. I mean, I really would.
I mean, my God, there's nothing worse than being conservative
and losing. At least if I'm going to lose, I
got to go down swinging. You know, now if it's the
playoffs, you know, if it's late September, if it all right, it's
April run, go try to make a try to.
Every team's different, even though a lot of these players
are the same from last year. I mean, basically the running
back Yankees, literally. But the identity of each team is
not always the same. And think about this like
Caballero came in late in the season and you know, I've talked
to Boone about this like he loves him.
Like in the clubhouse, he's always like bouncing around and
he's a real gamer. The guys love him and and I'm
sure that he was that way the moment he went into the Yankee
clubhouse. But you know when he was traded.
But if you're Caballero, you know, you were on the team last
year. Now you kind of feel like you're
one of the guys now you feel a little bit more accepted or a
little bit more free to be you. You know, the Yankees generally
conservative. Maybe he's like, you know, and,
and guys like that, you want to let him eat, you want to let him
run. Yeah, obviously Jazz is running
even though he's never on base. He's got 7 or 8 steals already.
And Austin Wells is actually a good base runner and and decent,
decent quicks for for a catcher. So you push the envelope.
You got a little lucky here. But New York baseball still
still very far from healthy. While this batting average still
leaves Roof from improvement, Wells is doing really well with
taking walks and getting on base.
He's only got two more KS than walks.
Yeah. I mean, listen, Austin Wells,
thank you at Mestro Cards. Austin Wells, if I wrote down
before the start of the season, hey, what do you think Austin
Wells is going to do this year? I would write Now.
I'll tell you what I'd write down.
I would write down. I'm actually literally writing
this down. I would write down and I would
write down about, all right, I would write down 23 to 25 home
runs. I would write down to 31 batting
average. And I would write down an OPS of
778. Like that's the neighborhood
that he's going to be in. And until there's visual
evidence that, you know, he's got better command at the strike
zone and he doesn't swing through fast balls or whatever,
like he has a pension to do, you know, I'm not going to elevate
him off. 230-1231 is a little generous because he didn't hit
231 last year. But he's got power.
And, you know, they do like pitching to him and that man,
even though with ABS it's different.
Like the framing just doesn't matter as much.
You can frame all you want. If it's a challenge, it doesn't
matter. But he's got pop.
He's got life in his bats, in his bat.
And, you know, he might just be one of these guys who like there
was a point I thought Austin Wells could be maybe, you know,
A5 or A6. You know, I, I don't see that,
you know, it's probably more 7 hitter when it's all said and
done. Low batting average, good OPS,
pretty good pop, you know, decent amount of walks there on
base percentage. OK, not like low like Volpe, but
not incredibly high where you're like, this guy's an on base
machine. He's OK.
I mean, what do you he's OK. He's he's he's he's slightly
above average Major League catcher.
You know, I mean, what that's that's the way I see him.
What else, Jay, before we wrap it up there, buddy, Why?
Hey, why don't you? All right, How about this BT
Mike Trout is on fire. I'd love my son was asking me
about that again last night. Suddenly he's on this Mike Trout
kick because we were in Melville and and yeah, on Mike Trout's
field where he hit a couple of home runs.
He was pumped. He's like, he's like, how many
home runs you think Trout hit here?
I'm like, I don't know, probably 772.
I'm like, you got 770 to go Take it easy.
But he's he's all on a on a Trout kick and he was watching
him last night with me and he's like, he really, he really is
still pretty good. I'm like, yeah, I'm like he just
he's been banged up. I'm like the guys like a 235 LB
running back. You know who could do it all?
You're seeing the the depreciated version of Mike
Trout. But anyway, yeah, if they fall
apart, which they usually do well, then I think it would be
in play to an extent. I like Mike Trout.
I've always respected Mike Trout.
He is a gamer. He's a low maintenance guy.
He's a great teammate. I remember Tori Hunter talking
about that pool hole. So massive respect for the young
man from Millville. All right, give us a quick
update on the calls and then we're out.
Go ahead. Yeah.
Let me just give you a quick run through again.
So tomorrow we're starting calls.
So excited, so pumped, cannot wait.
Gonna be so much fun. And so the way we're going to do
it, just to reiterate, I'm going to put a link in both the chat.
I'm going to have it pinned in the chat, so it's going to stay
at the top there and then I'm going to have it in the chat in
the description as well. You'll click that link, you'll
be in a backstage, then you're going to give me.
So it's just going to be you and me, whoever else is back there.
All right? It's your name, your location,
your question. Then I'm going to privately
message. So there's a private message
thing in Stream Yard. You'll see it.
It'll pop up like the message will pop up.
We'll send. You the link to the next studio.
That's it. You'll come in here and then,
you know, we'll say your name, we'll toss you into the call and
we'll do it. And then we start getting after
AJ Rod. Now we store a little verbal
jousted Let's go, I. Can't wait.
Cannot wait. All right man, I got to run.
I got a couple of things to do today.
Great job today, Jared. Awesome.
Been working on that and trying to stream.
Line that process to get the calls in and I told you you know
every day or every week or every month we add a little bit more,
we refine things a little bit more.
We do a little bit more. This is going to be an Ave.
that's going to be great for the show.
I can't wait. I'm so excited for this.
So awesome job J Rod appreciate you guys with the chats like it
subscribe it Jets collective episode 4 last night.
Go check it out on YouTube, like and sub that and back tomorrow
with 10 seven days before the NFL draft, who knows what
happens with decks. Who knows if The Jets make a
trade, but it is going to be awesome.
So I will catch you guys tomorrow.
Peace. This is on leash.
Are you listening? Can you hear me hear?
Me This is on leash. Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me?
This is on leash. Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me?
This is on leash. Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me?
This is on leash Are you listening?
Can you hear me? Hear me?
This is on leash. Are you listening?