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We got a big show got we've 
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or five things college hoops 
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So J Rod, what's going on here, 
brother? 

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How you feeling today? 
You good? 

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What's up, What's up? 
How's it going? 

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Feeling great. 
Excited for another week of 

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Unleash? 
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some content? 
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content, I didn't mention this 
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So obviously a lot of college 
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baseball items, you know, you 
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was with good morning, Good 
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else in the industry, puts out a
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Mel puts one out. 
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The Jets might go in a different
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that I've kind of hinted at a 
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We'll get to that as well. 
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the first pitch here. 
J Rod Let let let's. 

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Start with the first. 
I'm curious. 

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Wow. 
So First off, yes, one to 10. 

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Just give me that off the bat 
one to 10. 

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One to 10 my scale, or one to 10
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convent, you know, first pitches
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Booey. 
You got $0.50. 

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Yeah, I mean, you've got some 
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All right, let's start with in. 
General. 

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Let's go in general in. 
General, solid, solid, OK. 

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In general, I'd say it was 
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I'd say it's probably about an 8
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Now, that's also including to 
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you know, simply can't throw a 
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My score. 
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grader on myself. 
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pitch. 
I got to come clean. 

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I got to come correct. 
We'll get you the video. 

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We'll get you the video at some 
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I know that the Rangers social 
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First of all, it was it really 
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treated me and my family 
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They gave us a suite. 
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Good game as well. 
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Number one, so you saw the video
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before my son's game. 
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Oh, you know, you got pencils. 
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little teeny tiny pencil legs 
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son and and now my daughter as 
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I was not worried about the arm 
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I felt, I felt, I felt pretty 
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what happened was I'm going to, 
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a little bit. 
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They made me anything to take 
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little out Cove, this little 
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visiting dugout. 
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cheerleaders, right. 
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their thing before the game, the
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country music singer, beautiful 
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I'm glad a little bit I'm right.
I'm going to have some fun. 

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Why you nervous? 
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interesting to ask people who do
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speaking or even before a show. 
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nervous. 
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feel pulsating through your body
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about this as well. 
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what people are expecting you to
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So it's not like a fear of 
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Obviously it's what I do for a 
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It's compartmentalizing all the 
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to say and getting off to a good
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pitch, not embarrassing 
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Let's face it, if I go out there
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150 executives at Verizon, which
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mean, a highly successful 
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I'm Titans of industry, monster 
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Even if I got off to a slug, you
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then. 
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first minute or so, it's not 
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I'm not really flowing. 
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an hour and a half about to very
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finish up very high note. 
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first pitch, you get one shot. 
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whatever you now here, here's 
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nervous. 
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logistical thing. 
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You think you walk on the field 
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No, it's a whole process because
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She was going before me. 
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It's all Cory Grant. 
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second. 
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very sweet. 
All the headsets. 

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All right, here's what's gonna 
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This is like 20 minutes before I
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Here's what's gonna happen 
ABCDE. 

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I'm the way I operate. 
I had I even do this with my 

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wife. 
I have listen, I know when it's 

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time to listen and I know when 
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And Full disclosure, when she 
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of what was going to happen, I 
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I even at the end, I even said, 
hey, do me a favor with about 

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two minutes before I go, just 
give me the bullet points again.

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And I, and I promise that I'll, 
I'll, I, I hate a description. 

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Well, but with 20 minutes to go,
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Just come back. 
I got you, I got you right. 

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So she gives me the baseball and
this is the first time I got 

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nervous. 
I feel the ball. 

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I'm like, holy cow, this thing 
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Oh, Jay, if you take a baseball 
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you snap your thumbs. 
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baseball, it really, it 
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It shouldn't glide out. 
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But when you see a pitcher get a
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do they do? 
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they and they go like this 
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how slick it is. 
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not that slick. 
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glass, only not a jagged edge 
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It was so slippery. 
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Oh boy, I could already. 
I'm like, you know, you throwing

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A4 seamer. 
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bit of resistance here. 
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But again, I'm there 20 minutes,
17 minutes, 14 minutes, 11 

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minutes and I'm looking around 
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wonder what could go wrong. 
Now I'm processing everything. 

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Am I going to trip when I go out
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so but I but I pretty much had 
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And then and then here's and and
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not calling them out. 
They were phenomenal. 

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As hospitable as you could be. 
I mean, red carpet for me and my

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entire family. 
But as I'm going out, but I made

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it a point do not step on the 
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So I kind of jumped over that a 
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Like I even I even did that when
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they go, ladies and gentlemen, 
you know, give it up for and 

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they and their start, they run 
down the resume. 

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You know, just so you know, I 
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even listening because I was 
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A big howdy for Brandon Turney. 
And as I'm walking my name. 

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So now I'm all messed up as I'll
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As I'm walking out and I jump 
over the line is when I hear my 

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name. 
I'm like, oh man, they got my 

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name wrong. 
So instantaneously. 

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Handsome Bible. 
Forget about. 

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I'm not even thinking about the 
first pitch now. 

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I'm thinking about, I don't know
if I can use the video because 

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they said my name wrong and I'm 
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I'm going to have fun with it. 
It's all good. 

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I'm not even worried about that.
So I'm already not focused on 

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the task at hand. 
I'm thinking about anything but 

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throwing, throwing a strike. 
Now I asked the woman I because 

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I have over the years, I have 
mocked people who don't throw 

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from the rubber. 
I have like if you could go out 

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there and throw a first pitch 
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So the only question that I 
asked at the beginning was can I

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go to the top of the rubber? 
She's like, no, you can't stand 

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on the rubber. 
What you can do? 

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You can stand on the down slope.
All right, because they don't 

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want to get. 
Now, obviously guys have to 

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pitch. 
It's the major leagues. 

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Not that I was wearing spikes, 
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I respected. 
They already did the matic 

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curing. 
So it was ready for the first 

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pitch, for the real first pitch 
the game. 

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So she she said what you could 
do, you could go from the 

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downslope, but we've seen people
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I'm like, Oh shit, there's no 
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I don't have cleats on. 
I've got brand new, you know, 

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Mikey Jordans, you know, and 
they're there's they're they're 

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literally brand new. 
So they're slippery. 

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I got no, I'm like, I'm not 
going from the slope. 

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So all right, I will take my 
friends clouding me going to the

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basically the edge of the circle
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So instead of 60, 56 inches, 
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something like that. 
So I'm saying, oh, that'll be 

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easier. 
All right. 

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When I stood there and I've 
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when I stood there and I walked 
and I looked around and I and I 

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made sure I gave the crowd a 
nice wave and I was trying to 

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take in the moment. 
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listen, a lot of people rush 
this. 

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Just get out there, do like 
don't take the moment in. 

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But I was so worried about the 
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that I could not really enjoy 
the moment. 

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Like I tried. 
I really tried. 

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So anyway, I'm like, it's go, 
it's go time, Jared, it's go 

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time. 
Let's. 

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Do. 
It I get my 4 seamer and I rare 

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back and I freaking fired it 
man. 

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Now there was no mile per hour. 
As soon as it left my hand, I'm 

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like that's that might that I 
don't know if he's going to 

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catch the ball now. 
Travis Jankowski. 

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Thank God it wasn't like an old 
coach. 

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He's now the first base coach 
for the Rangers, right? 

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Got it. 
And he played for the Mets for a

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year back in 2022. 
What are these like scrappy, you

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know 4th outfielders who can 
run, you know did not a great 

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player but but a good athlete. 
Thank God he just retired 

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because if I had an old coach 
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bull. 
I threw it so hard that thing 

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would have hit the screening on 
a fly. 

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He jumped out of his Crouch and 
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right-handed part of the 
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It was like 4 feet high. 
It was like not not close to a 

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strike two feet, 2 feet inside. 
It was really not a good throw 

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Me, I I because this is just how
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I allowed that to bother me for 
the next hour, like I all I did 

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was think about how all like I 
can think I can throw a baseball

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without even thinking. 
And then I get on a mound in 

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front of about 30,000 people on 
Easter Sunday, talking smack on 

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YouTube, talking snap smack on 
Twitter and Instagram. 

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I'm going to fire it. 
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It sells. 
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I actually felt it like I and I 
had the grip. 

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But what, what, what are the 
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baseball and you teach the young
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You almost want to hold it like 
an egg. 

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It's almost like a Golf Club. 
When you grip a Golf Club too 

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tight, that like the, the 
tendons and everything in your 

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arms get to and you just, you 
lose that elasticity and you 

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lose like speed, like swing 
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So I'm like, don't grip it too 
tight. 

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But then I'm like, but you have 
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So anyway, I was kind of in 
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just, I didn't throw a good one 
and I was very disappointed. 

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And I, I can't, I can't get it 
back. 

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That's the problem. 
I can't get it back. 

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And, and I remember my, as I'm 
walking out there, my dad, my 

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son goes, come on, dad, let's go
wizard throw a strike like 

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something like that. 
And I'm like, I can't disappoint

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him. 
I can't disappoint my daughter. 

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I don't know that I disappointed
them, but I disappointed myself.

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It was definitely not a strike. 
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it an 8 is because the wind up 
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of the throw were on point 
because I did play and it had 

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some juice. 
But if Travis Jankowski does not

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jump out of his Crouch, no, it's
not going to short hop the 

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backstop. 
It's going to hit it on a line. 

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It's going to hit so that that's
the long and short of it. 

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A short story made long by BT 
What else is new? 

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But the Rangers were great. 
It was a complete honor. 

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It really was a little more 
nerve racking that I thought 

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like when I threw out the pitch 
at the A's, you got to 

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understand it was AI was in a 
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hadn't had children yet. 
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So I was done with college 
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wasn't coaching, so I wasn't 
really throwing the ball like I,

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I can't remember maybe throwing 
a football in a parking lot like

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tailgating at Stanford or 
something. 

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So my arm, I, I didn't have this
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is about the only part of my 
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lively and I know has some 
juice, I set the expected like 

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in my mind, I was going to throw
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whomever was back there wasn't 
going to have to move, was going

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to pound the zone and it was 
going to be perfect. 

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And it wasn't, but it was a good
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happened. 
Man, there we go. 

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That's all that matters. 
Yeah, well, I, I guess that's 

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all that matters, but I was 
expecting more. 

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I go from an outsider 
perspective. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
We'll get you the video. 

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We will. 
Definitely. 

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They got me a nice Rangers 
jersey with my name on it. 

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They really went above and 
beyond. 

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So it was an incredible 
experience. 

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Again, thank you to the Rangers 
family. 

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Really, really cool. 
Really, really above and beyond.

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So I want to hear about your 
your little set that you played 

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over the weekend as well. 
We'll get to that at some point 

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today. 
I want to hear about it. 

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I want to hear how my how my Guy
J Rod was banging the bass. 

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See if there's any groupies out 
there for J Rod as well. 

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We got to get the groupie. 
Yeah, maybe some like 70 year 

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old ones were out there. 
Hey, listen yo, they're people 

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too. 
Hey, true, true. 

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You know what? 
Oh, J Rod got to try everything 

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once. 
All right, so I want to hear 

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about that. 
I promise I'm going to give you 

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a chance to you that up now 
college basketball season's over

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portal is open. 
It's amazing that that that's 

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the first Big 10 championship 
since 19 since 2000, which was 

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Michigan State, like the height 
of the Izzo run. 

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Tom Izzo still the man. 
But you know, that's when they 

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were just popping pros left and 
right and you know, they were at

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a higher level than they are. 
And it's still a very good 

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program now. 
But that Michigan State, you 

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know, that that that iteration, 
the late 90s, early 2000s, my 

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God, they were so good. 
So Big 10. 

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Congrats to the Big 10, Congrats
to Michigan. 

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I thoroughly enjoyed the game. 
Now, aesthetically, it wasn't 

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very pretty, you know, but but 
for U Conn to have a chance in 

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this game, they had to muck it 
up and they had to make it like 

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a Big East game and they were 
very successful doing that. 

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You guys got to understand when 
you look at the dominance now, I

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did not think that Michigan was 
going to beat Arizona, nor did I

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think that UConn was going to 
beat Illinois. 

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So I I gave you the predictions 
on with the on Friday. 

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I thought it was going to be 
Arizona and Illinois in the 

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Champions. 
You see, I can own my mistakes. 

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If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I 
you know, O for two in terms of 

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picking the the championship 
game. 

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But the thing and I didn't 
overlook this with Michigan. 

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I just thought that Arizona was 
slightly better. 

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But Michigan absolutely last 
night aside, roll through this 

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tournament. 
You look at some of the the 

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points that they put up. 
They scored 101 against Howard. 

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They scored 95 against Saint 
Louis. 

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They scored 90 against a very 
good Alabama team, 95 against a 

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really good Tennessee team, 91 
against Arizona over the weekend

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and then 69 against UConn. 
It shows a great adaptability. 

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It shows great coaching. 
It shows great grit. 

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Obviously they play defense. 
They really made life tough for 

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UConn shooters, whether it's 
Caravan or or Braylon Mullins, 

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who was three for 17. 
But this is amazing. 

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They were plus 1/14 in the in 
the tournament, which is the 

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seventh highest in the history 
of the tournament. 

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They scored 541 total points, 
second most ever. 

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And the team that had more than 
them was the 1990 UNLV running 

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Rebels. 
Grandma Ma, Larry Johnson, Stacy

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Alban, Anderson Hunt, Greg 
Anthony, you know, a, a team 

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that eventually lost to Duke 
after they obliterated Duke and 

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poor Poppy Hurley ran to the 
bathroom to to get diarrhea. 

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I don't know, I, I think that's 
what happened. 

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He had a real stomach issue. 
I think I would as well. 

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By the way, if I'm a, a young, 
skinny, 155 LB Bobby Hurley on 

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the layup line and I look over 
and I see those monsters getting

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ready to full court, press me. 
I may have thrown up on the 

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court, but listen, it really 
was, you know, I, it depends. 

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It depends aesthetically what 
you're looking for. 

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I don't need, you know, 13 to 16
three pointers made or 85 to 90 

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points. 
I can find the beauty in a 

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grinded out kind of a game. 
And it was a grinded out kind of

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a game. 
I remember one point maybe maybe

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midway through the first half, 
so about 10 minutes or so right 

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around there, you know, Raph is 
like they got 6, Michigan has 16

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points and then he ran through, 
you know, some of the numbers I 

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just ran through, you know, just
to get everybody up to speed, 

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not assuming that everybody 
knows exactly what Michigan's 

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done this year in terms of being
a high octane team. 

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So the Big 10 gets their 
championship. 

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Michigan gets their first since 
1989. 

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It really is amazing. 
Now, Michigan, Michigan's been 

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very good the last couple of 
years here and Big 10, the Big 

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10's, one of those conferences 
where throughout the year now 

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talk about this century, you 
know, really since their last 

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championship. 
That's why I referenced that 

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back in 2000 with the Spartans. 
But all those ensuing years, 

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think about all the good 
Wisconsin teams and Purdue's 

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been good. 
Iowa's had some really good 

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teams. 
Michigan State's obviously very 

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good Illinois going back to the,
you know, through OO4O5 in that 

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window with Billy Self and some 
of those terrific players. 

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So the cobbles. 
Season is over. 

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Congrats to Michigan. 
Now the portal is going to be 

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absolutely insane, which leads 
us to one more thing about about

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the tournament, which kind of 
leads me into my my next topic 

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here. 
And and I know it's I know it's 

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a talking point and I wanted to 
make sure I talked about the 

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game a little bit first. 
If you want to pop in about the 

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game, some of the stuff within 
the game, I'm all for it, right?

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But you know it the way I do 
this and the way most people do 

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that do this at this point, it's
more about topics and kind of 

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pushing things forward. 
Like this is not 1990 where you 

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get on the air, you know, 13 
minutes. 

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This guy picked up his third 
foul. 

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Although Bemery and and some 
others for UConn had some foul 

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issues. 
Even Michigan was plagued by 

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that, which you don't love to 
see. 

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And I I thought some of the 
fouls were a little ticky tack. 

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You want the best players to be 
out there. 

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That's a little gripe that I 
would have and that I did have 

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from the game. 
But you think about like March 

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Madness, right? 
Just the, the entity of March 

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Madness. 
And one of the great things is 

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that first of all, it's a 
Thursday, it's a Friday. 

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And you know, starting with 
Selection Sunday and of course 

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the first four, if you're into 
that, they're good for you. 

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I'm really not, but I'm not here
to disparage it. 

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You start to see the 
Cinderella's develop, right? 

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This year's, I mean, I the 
Cinderella was probably Texas 

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and Texas I believe had about a 
16 or $17 million NIL, you know,

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Bass. 
So is that really a Cinderella, 

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which which just tells you how 
much things have changed. 

447
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,680
Listen, I'm looking at it this 
way. 

448
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,840
You're going to hear the word 
sustainability quite a bit and 

449
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,440
we all know it's not 
sustainable. 

450
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,760
And I don't want to be a Debbie 
Downer because we did have a 

451
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,440
champion crown last night. 
Now I will, I'm I'm much more 

452
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,200
intimately aware of some of St. 
John's economic factors, but 

453
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,120
they're not that. 
The only difference between St. 

454
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,680
John's and some of these other 
schools is that they've got 

455
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,160
football revenue, which 
obviously they can, you know, 

456
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,400
spread around, you know, if 
you're a Michigan or, you know, 

457
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,160
what are those mad LSU you got 
100,000, Penn State 110,000 

458
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,480
people watching the game. 
So the ability to make money and

459
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720
then, you know, kind of disperse
throughout the rest of the 

460
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,120
athletic department is is 
obviously there on a much higher

461
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,000
level. 
I mean, just look at the fact 

462
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,400
that a team like Alabama or some
of the other schools I 

463
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,680
mentioned, they will pay early 
in the season, some middling mid

464
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,320
major Division One team, maybe 
from the Mac or another 

465
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,480
conference like that to come to 
their stadium to lose by 40. 

466
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840
And sometimes those buy games 
actually do go awry. 

467
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,760
But the team that comes in, 
that's the inferior team, 

468
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,200
they're getting about two 2 1/2,
sometimes $3,000,000 at that. 

469
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,000
That's what a buy game is. 
And the teams that's really 

470
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,920
important. 
I don't know why this team's 

471
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,320
popping to take a team like 
Toledo, like a team like that, 

472
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,160
right? 
Say they go and play Bama. 

473
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,440
Here's a check for 2.5. 
They could take the 2 1/2 or 3 

474
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,560
million dollars and then 
disperse it somewhat throughout 

475
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,040
the rest of the athletic for the
for the budget there swimming 

476
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,720
and diving, golf, softball, some
other stuff right non revenue 

477
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,680
producing sports. 
So I think that we've got a 

478
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,960
massive issue here. 
Jay Billis was phenomenal on 

479
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,240
Saturday going back and forth 
with Calipari. 

480
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,160
And Jay Billis has a legal 
background, not to mention he is

481
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,840
a whiz when it comes to 
basketball. 

482
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,560
The guy's brilliant, right? 
And and I thought he made a lot 

483
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,280
of sense. 
Nobody really wants to hear it. 

484
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040
But look, look at look at Saint 
John's for a second, right? 

485
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,320
So Saint John's operating costs 
is around $40 million for their 

486
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,560
entire athletic department right
now. 

487
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,520
What what does that include? 
All the coaches salaries, all 

488
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,200
the charters. 
And I don't mean NCAA issued. 

489
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,880
Like when you go to the 
tournament, the NCAA pays for 

490
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720
it. 
But like Saint John's flies out 

491
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,240
to Creighton or Saint John's 
flies out to Butler or, you 

492
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,280
know, one of those school DePaul
in Chicago. 

493
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Saint John's is, is, is, is 
cutting that check, right. 

494
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,040
So $40 million operating budget,
you know, Pitino's making, you 

495
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,080
know, 6-7 hours. 
He's got the new contract, but 

496
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,400
closer to 10. 
All of his staff, the entire 

497
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,480
support staff, all the other 
sports, all the charters, all 

498
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,440
the hotels, all the other things
that you got to pay. 

499
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,840
Now, the total revenue for Saint
John's is around. 

500
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,680
Not that these aren't perfect 
numbers, but they're in the 

501
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,760
neighborhood of $40 million. 
So let me get this straight, If 

502
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,640
a school like Saint John's has 
an operating budget of just to 

503
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:35,000
exist of $40 million and they 
generate $40 million, how 

504
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,400
sustainable is that? 
Because it's still a business. 

505
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,320
Yes, it looks good for the 
universe. 

506
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040
And you can make the case that 
while it looks good for the 

507
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,360
university, certainly there is 
some downstream uptick like for 

508
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:48,000
Saint. 
I would, I would imagine 

509
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,440
actually, I know this, that St. 
John's enrollment has gone up 

510
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
the last couple of years. 
It's viewed differently by 

511
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,040
prospective students in high 
school because there's now a 

512
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,520
buzz around the program. 
So that's another ability to 

513
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,640
make money for the school, for 
the university, but that's 

514
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160
that's separate from the 
athletic department. 

515
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560
So I I just I don't know where 
we're going with this. 

516
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,360
I don't pretend to have the 
answer. 

517
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,040
Again, I don't want to just take
a dump on the entire college 

518
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,440
system, But it is broken. 
It is beyond broken. 

519
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,520
And anything that we do now is 
just a Band-Aid. 

520
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,360
It's going to come to roost. 
I don't know how much more money

521
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,320
you can spend on NIL Take Saint 
John's again. 

522
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,400
Mike Ropoli. 
I got to meet Mike in in in San 

523
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,680
Diego. 
No, I need have been San Diego 

524
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,760
or in DCI met him in San Diego 
right I've seen him a couple 

525
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,120
times never really had a a 
conversation with my just a 

526
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,320
quick DAP as I'm going to the 
broadcast booth with that 

527
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,680
whatever I saw him at breakfast 
in the team hotel in San Diego 

528
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,960
and Eddie Cole. 
The AD was there and a few other

529
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320
boosters and and they were at 
the table Anyway we started 

530
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,240
talking right great guy, 
incredible energy ridiculous 

531
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,840
what he's doing for the school. 
That's amazing. 

532
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,440
So if Mike Ripoli and every but 
every school's got a micropoli, 

533
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,640
the difference schools like say 
the University of Texas, they've

534
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,120
got maybe 10 to 20 micropolis 
because it's all oil money, 

535
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560
football budget, etcetera, like 
Seton Hall and some of these 

536
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,440
other Big E schools without 
football budgets. 

537
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,680
Well, yes, somebody steps 
forward, somebody cuts a check, 

538
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,640
but at what point is the return 
not worth the investment? 

539
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,360
And I'm not saying that that's 
the case for St. 

540
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,440
John's at all because their 
profile and the amount of 

541
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280
students now who who applied to 
go to St. 

542
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,760
John's to profile, all the other
things that that you can benefit

543
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,240
residually from having a 
powerhouse of a program with 

544
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,080
back-to-back Big East tournament
and regular season 

545
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320
championships. 
That is quantifiable. 

546
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,760
You can obviously, you know, 
literally detail how much money 

547
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,800
you make off of that, but I'm 
not sure what the end game is. 

548
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,880
I don't know how much more this 
could go on. 

549
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,920
And I don't even, I'm not even 
talking about, I'm talking about

550
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,480
everybody, man. 
I mean, but the money is 

551
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,760
absolutely insane. 
And this is not about me saying 

552
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,440
they shouldn't get paid. 
I've always said that they 

553
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,200
should get paid. 
And I've always thought that it 

554
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240
was too 1 sided and 
disingenuous. 

555
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,800
That was that. 
Some of these people in the NCAA

556
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,400
who I don't really respect at 
all because I don't think they 

557
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,800
know what they're doing. 
And they were dragging their 

558
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,280
feet, forever reticent to pay 
these players because they knew 

559
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,000
once the door opened, hit, the 
tsunami was going to hit them 

560
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,480
and they were being greedy. 
It's not like they were trying 

561
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,960
to protect the integrity of the 
NCAA. 

562
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,800
They wanted to count and keep as
much money as possible. 

563
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,560
So some of these schools of 
Michigan and Arkansas, a Texas, 

564
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280
a St. 
John's at Duke and Indiana, well

565
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,200
north of $10 million in the NIL.
And when you start to weigh in 

566
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,200
and it's different, an operating
budget at Texas or Michigan or 

567
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,600
Bama is very different than an 
operating budget at St. 

568
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,960
John's or Butler or DePaul or 
Seat Hall. 

569
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Understood. 
It's all relative. 

570
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,520
But what's happening here, 
what's happening here is that 

571
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,960
you're beginning to see now like
the fundamental essence of what 

572
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,760
the, of what a couple of weeks 
of March Madness used to 

573
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,840
represent symbolically, whether 
it was a Butler or VCU or George

574
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,360
Mason back in the day or even 
teeny tiny Villanova back in 85.

575
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,800
You know what St. went when the 
biggie sent three biggie schools

576
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,880
to the Final Four. 
You know, I, I just, I don't, I 

577
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,480
don't know how we get there 
again. 

578
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,640
And if we are there to an 
extent, I don't know how we stay

579
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,240
there. 
I, I just don't because what's 

580
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,200
listen, the bottom line is this 
guy's schools in mid majors, 

581
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,920
they are now a minor league 
feeding ground, a sporting 

582
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,360
ground for great talent. 
And it sucks. 

583
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,280
Like you take a school like like
Maris, where I went where we 

584
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,120
barely have any NIL money. 
It's a great academic school. 

585
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,640
They, they consistently yield, 
you know, all academic teams and

586
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640
it's a great university and it's
well run. 

587
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,800
And I've got great friends up 
there and I'm very proud, very 

588
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,560
proud to have attended Marist, 
right. 

589
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,120
But Marist, let's say they get 
like, like back in the day, you 

590
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,640
could get, you know, maybe a kid
in New York City. 

591
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,400
I'll just throw a school's name 
out there, St. 

592
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Ray's or all Hollows or one of 
those schools who's not the best

593
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,640
player on the team. 
Maybe that best player goes to 

594
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,640
the Big East, but the second or 
third best player on that team 

595
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,000
goes to a Marist or goes to a 
Sienna or goes to a Fairfield or

596
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,280
an Iota or one of those schools.
And then he wins, you know, Mac,

597
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040
Rookie of the year. 
And you're like, OK, you know, 

598
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,920
hey, we we've got our our 
foundational piece. 

599
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Let's build around him with a 
couple of shooters, get a big 

600
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
blah, blah, blah. 
And then let's have a chance to 

601
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,560
not only make the NCAA 
tournament next year, but also 

602
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,720
maybe make a run, like win a 
game or two, you know, like Iota

603
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,320
did years ago. 
So those days are over. 

604
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Because once that Mac or NEC 
Rookie of the year or a lesser 

605
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,200
conference shows this incredible
talent, he's gone. 

606
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,680
Because you got a big school, 
say, hey, here's $1,000,000, 

607
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,080
check, come play for us. 
So there are no answers right 

608
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,240
now. 
One thing that I would like to 

609
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,280
see is more of a commitment to 
the school. 

610
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,840
I know for a fact that St. 
John's has done some multi year 

611
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,720
NIL deals, which I think is a 
good thing. 

612
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520
And listen, let's get 
separation. 

613
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,120
If you commit to go and play at 
Michigan State, let's say you 

614
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,160
get $2,000,000 to go play for 
the Spartans and then out of 

615
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,040
nowhere and and you've just 
signed right or well, you can't 

616
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,000
sign yet with the portal. 
You signed out of high school. 

617
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,680
Or more specifically to the 
issue that I'm talking about, 

618
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,760
you are at a previous school. 
You go to Michigan State for big

619
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,600
money. 
And then Tom Izzo out of nowhere

620
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,440
in a month says, you know what, 
I'm done. 

621
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,400
I don't, which wouldn't stun me 
at some point soon. 

622
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,600
I'm done with the direction of 
the NCAA. 

623
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,120
This is not the game that I 
love. 

624
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280
I just I don't feel it anymore. 
It's not what it's not why I got

625
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,040
into coaching. 
And I'm checking out like a lot 

626
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,600
of like a lot of coaches have 
already done, OK, like Jay 

627
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920
Wright, it's a good example, 
who's a lot younger than Tom 

628
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,280
Izzo. 
Well, if you sign, I don't care 

629
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,760
if they give you a dollar or a 
gazillion dollars, if you sign 

630
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,600
to go play for a for a coach, 
you you absolutely need to be 

631
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800
able to leave without penalty. 
That's not the problem. 

632
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,280
All right? 
The problem is, I think that 

633
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,320
there should be some sort of 
economic return, like a buyout 

634
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,000
almost, where if you sign for 
two years with a school at a 

635
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,680
million each, and then after one
year you don't like it and you 

636
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680
leave, that's fine. 
You've got the latitude to do 

637
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,840
that based on the rules, but 
then you have to pay back. 

638
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800
I'm just throwing numbers out a 
half, $1,000,000 to the school 

639
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,480
that you lose or that you left, 
that you leave, I should say, 

640
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040
because then what's happening 
now? 

641
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,760
The school that you committed 
to, now at least they've got 

642
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,000
some more money to make a very 
quick pivot to adjust to you 

643
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,160
leaving. 
Whereas right now they don't 

644
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
really have that. 
So I don't pretend to have the 

645
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,240
answer. 
I love college basketball. 

646
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,160
It's a big part of my world. 
But it has changed the point 

647
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,560
where it's barely recognizable 
and everybody with a brain cell 

648
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,320
knows it's a big issue and 
they've got to find a way to 

649
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,040
resolve this. 
The problem is you can have, you

650
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:13,160
could take Jay Bilvis, you could
take a Pitino, a Calipari, a Tom

651
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Izzo, you could take a couple of
former legends of NC, the Grant 

652
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Hill Hurley, whoever else you 
luau Cinder could Kareem could 

653
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920
come in if he wants anybody, 
right? 

654
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,880
And they could sit down and they
can craft this amazing new 

655
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,080
vision for the for the college 
game where kids get paid. 

656
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,840
But it's healthier, all right? 
And there's more, there's more 

657
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000
plates for the smaller teams to 
eat from. 

658
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,440
The problem is it's got to go to
courts. 

659
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,000
And once it go, and I don't 
pretend to understand all the 

660
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,640
stuff that when it gets to that 
level, but once it gets to that 

661
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
level, it's just never going to 
get pushed through. 

662
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
What effect in an effective 
matter that's going to save 

663
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
college basketball and the same 
with college football. 

664
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,560
So I've, I have been able myself
to because really, I mean, I'd, 

665
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,800
I'd be disingenuous. 
I mean, let's face it, the 

666
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,720
reason why St. 
John's is back and watch what 

667
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,080
they do with the next couple of 
weeks. 

668
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,360
If you think, if you think the 
last couple of years were were 

669
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,000
strong, I think they're going 
even more aggressively like, 

670
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,240
because all right, sweet 16's 
good. 

671
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,320
They want to get to a final 
four. 

672
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,640
They want to win a championship 
and they've got a guy with a 

673
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,120
checkbook to help them get 
there. 

674
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,480
And they definitely have the 
right coach to help them get 

675
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,400
there. 
So St. 

676
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,000
John's not about to stop. 
So this has made my world much 

677
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120
more enjoyable instead of going 
17 and 15. 

678
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Sometimes That's that's a good 
thing based on some of the years

679
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,520
I've had with Saint John's and 
beating a bunch of mid major 

680
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,480
teams in in the early season 
that do nothing for your net 

681
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,720
ranking or the other analytics 
that actually get you in a spot 

682
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,560
to have a good seating or make 
the NCAA tournament on Selection

683
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Sunday with the committee like 
that world versus the world that

684
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320
I'm currently watching and 
calling games with Mink. 

685
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320
I mean, I'll take this world any
day of the week. 

686
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800
I mean, I just did a Sweet 16 
game. 

687
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Saint John. 
Should it be Duke? 

688
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,640
They're up by 10 in the 
second-half. 

689
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
I'm thinking Elite 8. 
I couldn't even dream about the 

690
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,480
Elite 8 a couple of years ago 
before Rick got here. 

691
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,639
So my world has changed. 
Favorably, selfishly, but I'm 

692
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,320
also a macro guy. 
I'm a big picture guy. 

693
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:21,000
And the day that Pitino retires 
or the day that Mike Repoli 

694
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
says, all right, I'm, I'm, I've 
done enough and I'm going to 

695
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,679
take a step back. 
Well, if nobody else steps up 

696
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,639
and St. 
John's, let's, let's not be 

697
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:29,960
blind here. 
St. 

698
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960
John's will just kind of sit 
back to the middle of the pack 

699
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,560
here because that's what's 
happened to a school like Seton 

700
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Hall and some other proud basket
Butler, some other Creighton, 

701
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,960
some other proud basketball 
traditions that don't have the 

702
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,080
finance to back it up. 
So we got a lot of problems 

703
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,920
here. 
And you can either choose to 

704
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,760
address it or, you know, just 
throw your head in the sand and 

705
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,520
ignore it. 
I'm kind of doing both. 

706
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,679
I do it. 
I do enjoy it because it's 

707
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,000
relevant games. 
I mean, St. 

708
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,080
John's has turned, you know, New
York City back into a a college 

709
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880
basketball town. 
But I also understand greater 

710
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960
good. 
It's it's not for the greater 

711
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,840
good. 
I'm gonna get James 555K. 

712
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,240
Move on from move from an NIL 
system to an incentive only 

713
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,240
system. 
You'll get better competition 

714
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,720
and better players. 
Well, again, sounds good. 

715
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,120
All right. 
Is that going to fly in the 

716
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,800
courts? 
Is that going to fly in the 

717
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,480
courts? 
So if you're talking about well 

718
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,400
hey, here's 500, here's $350,000
to sign with school X or 

719
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080
university Y. 
If you do this from an 

720
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,720
individual perspective, it 
triggers up to 750 or 1,000,000 

721
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,560
or 1/2 or 1/5. 
If we do this from a team 

722
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,520
perspective, it triggers up 
accordingly. 

723
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,440
Sounds good. 
Sounds good in a boardroom. 

724
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Sounds good in a tweet, you 
know, sounds good in an on air 

725
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520
conversation. 
But is it practical? 

726
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,280
My answer is no because of the 
court system. 

727
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,080
I don't know how that's going to
fly legally. 

728
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,040
So that's where we're at with 
college basketball. 

729
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,800
But I did enjoy the game. 
And, you know, it's crazy to 

730
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,040
like what? 
You know what? 

731
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,240
And this is one of our burning 
questions, so I'm not going to 

732
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,960
do it yet. 
But I mean, Danny Hurley is just

733
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,760
my goodness, he's a phenomenal 
coach. 

734
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,040
He is just tremendous. 
I don't care, you know, the 

735
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,520
antics that over shadow his 
greatness for some, not me. 

736
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,720
I had no problem with it. 
I mean, Bobby Knight was the 

737
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,280
same way Bobby Knight is is, you
know, for the, I mean, vilified 

738
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,760
by some but revered by most. 
OK, so let's not be selective in

739
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,480
how we remember people. 
There were a lot of tyrants back

740
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,720
in the day. 
I mean, actually Bayheim was he 

741
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,680
wasn't, you know, as visibly A 
tyrant as I mean, very few 

742
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,440
people are like Danny Hurley. 
But all the Rolly Louis, I mean,

743
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,640
these guys were on the refs, you
know, they come on. 

744
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,600
It was just different. 
Not every single exchange was 

745
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,400
captured and Danny is excessive 
and Danny is over the top. 

746
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160
But my goodness, man, you give 
him. 

747
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160
I'll tell you what, if you gave 
him this, how much I believe in 

748
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,080
him and Pitino's in the same 
category. 

749
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,960
If you gave every, what are 
their 300 and something Division

750
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,280
One teams? 
If you gave every single 

751
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,760
Division One coach the same 
exact roster and the same summer

752
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,360
period to improve and the same, 
you know, month and a half ramp 

753
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,760
up before the start of the 
season when practice officially 

754
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,240
starts. 
You get back to school in 

755
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,160
September, late August, whatever
it might be. 

756
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,320
And then you play a, you know, 
thirtyish game, the tournaments 

757
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,080
and then the big dance, and they
all have the same amount of 

758
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,000
talent. 
Nobody has an advantage. 

759
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Does anybody think that Danny 
Hurley is not going to be among 

760
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,840
the final coaches standing? 
They just is. 

761
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,760
I mean, he is just what he does,
you know, and, and the way he 

762
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,920
pushes players and Rick does 
this as well to push a player 

763
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360
that hard and that aggressively 
almost to the point where you 

764
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,360
where if you have the wrong 
player, they're going to break. 

765
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,320
And what I mean break is they're
going to shut down then then 

766
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,920
they're going to eventually 
transfer. 

767
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,000
But those who don't will like a 
Zoobie goes from a young man who

768
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,600
was playing 5 minutes a game at 
Kansas as a freshman to a player

769
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,880
of the year in the conference 
and the DPOY as well. 

770
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Now the whole game is the whole 
draft game is all whacked out. 

771
00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:59,800
You know, it's all about upside 
and stuff. 

772
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,240
So you'll see almost everybody 
drafted early. 

773
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,480
He's going to be 19 years old. 
That's just the way it is. 

774
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,840
And I'm fine with it. 
But Zubi Ejafor has put himself 

775
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,680
in a position to eventually, 
like Champenny in Saint John's 

776
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,000
to make, you know, borderline or
eventual generational wealth 

777
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560
because he didn't wilt and he 
and he stuck through it. 

778
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,360
And he was able to take that 
pushing and that prodding and 

779
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,120
that controlling. 
And Danny Hurley is a magician 

780
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,720
man. 
But to be able to do that, that 

781
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,800
players got to know, yeah, you 
might get eviscerated on 

782
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,400
national TV. 
You might get lit up in film 

783
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,160
study in front of your boys. 
You might get lit up up in front

784
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,800
of practice, in front of 
everybody, but at the end of the

785
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,960
day, forget about as a player, 
as a person. 

786
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,920
And that young man's family 
knows the same thing, that there

787
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,800
is a deep connection and a deep 
love that is non negotiable. 

788
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,480
And as crazy as Hurley is, and 
he is freaking nuts, his players

789
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,120
know it because they stay, they 
develop and they win. 

790
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,480
So he really, really, I mean 
he's 6-7 minutes away from 

791
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,120
better basketball from having 3 
championships, three of them 

792
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,280
absolutely insane. 
Insane. 

793
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,360
I mean, the guys, he was at 
Wagner for a couple of years. 

794
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,720
It's crazy. 
My God, he's so good and he's so

795
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,840
much. 
Yeah, I've been I've been going 

796
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,320
deep into like the Dan Hurley, I
guess, like video archive, the 

797
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,880
Dan Hurley experience. 
Yeah, like I've just been 

798
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,480
watching so many of like did 
they do a 30 for 30 on him and 

799
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,560
his brother? 
I don't know if I. 

800
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Saw that, I saw it. 
But I've seen obviously a lot of

801
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,560
the clips and just going deep 
like they're just, they're such 

802
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,360
an inspirational, you know, 
group of guy or couple of guys, 

803
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,520
you know. 
Just. 

804
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,880
Truly all about the game. 
Lunatics, as you're saying. 

805
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Yep. 
Umm yeah Dude, what a great 

806
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
coach. 
Good game, good game. 

807
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,280
Not, I guess, a great game. 
Not a great. 

808
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,120
Game go as like down to the true
wire if you wanted to, you know,

809
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,760
it got to like that four point 
kind of thing at the end and you

810
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,560
go, yeah, maybe, but no, it 
didn't really look good. 

811
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,880
No, you know what? 
Just back to Hurley for a SEC. 

812
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Then we'll get into the three 
burning questions. 

813
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,440
We'll get to Dexter, Lawrence, 
Soto, Jazz, a little something 

814
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,560
on the NFL draft as well, and 
we'll get those texts coming. 

815
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,840
And yeah, I see on the hook and 
hold that that's got to be gone 

816
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,800
if you get rid of it. 
It just stagnates things. 

817
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,560
I'm with you. 
I don't disagree the the thing 

818
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,960
about Hurley right and like to 
understand what drives him and 

819
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,960
you're too young for this. 
I know. 

820
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,760
I know you saw the 30 for 30, so
you understand what he went 

821
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,680
through. 
But when when your brother is 

822
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,360
Bobby Hurley, who was arguably 
the greatest college point guard

823
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,480
of all time, all right, and 
certainly among the game's 

824
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,000
greatest winners. 
And his dad was ferocious at 

825
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,640
Saint Anthony's just to keep the
school open, how hard he was on 

826
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,880
his boys. 
I mean, Yeah, I mean, that 

827
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,000
that's that's where Danny gets 
it from, obviously, right. 

828
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,240
But Bobby is an intense coach 
that just fired at Arizona 

829
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,200
State. 
Bobby's intense as well because 

830
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,000
he grew up in an intense, 
demanding home. 

831
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,360
That's obvious, right? 
But Danny is intense because of 

832
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,120
the same reason, but also 
because of his very public 

833
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,600
failures, right? 
And, you know, when he quit, 

834
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,400
when he took a leave of absence 
from Seton Hall And, and really,

835
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
in hindsight, his biggest 
mistake may have been staying in

836
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,240
the state of New Jersey and 
going to play there. 

837
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:17,240
Like if Danny Hurley would have 
gone to, I don't know, Virginia 

838
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,960
or Michigan State or an Illinois
or USC or an Arizona State, it's

839
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,280
a different level of scrutiny. 
And like, you could, he talks 

840
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,040
about it and like the hurt, the 
hurt that he feels and on some 

841
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,920
level the embarrassment. 
He shouldn't be embarrassed 

842
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,200
because he was a Division One 
college basketball player and a 

843
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,160
high school old American at 
Saint Anthony's. 

844
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,840
But the embarrassment that he 
feels, how he internalizes his 

845
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,720
college career, that is his 
driving motivation. 

846
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,640
It just is. 
And it's really one of those 

847
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,000
most powerful things that you 
can relate to that that you can 

848
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200
have. 
Now, excuse me, it's not even 

849
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000
close. 
I don't want to equate the two, 

850
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,520
but I can relate to that to an 
extent. 

851
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,480
I've talked about this how to 
this day it kills me still, but 

852
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,360
that's maybe why throwing out 
the first pitch, if you think 

853
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,560
about this, why I internalized 
it on such a deep level and you 

854
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,120
got to throw it hard. 
You got to throw a strike. 

855
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,200
In my mind, I just know that my 
college baseball career didn't 

856
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,520
go the way I thought it 
wouldn't, the way I wanted it 

857
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,960
to. 
And you know, as important as my

858
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,560
coach who recruited me needed it
to go eventually was fired. 

859
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,120
And trust me, it's not fun to 
say that I was probably a part 

860
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,160
of the reason why. 
Because when you're hitting in 

861
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,920
the middle of the order and you 
don't produce and your coach 

862
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,200
event eventually gets fired and 
you get dropped in the order, 

863
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,560
how could you unless your, your 
head's in space and you're like,

864
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,000
oh, I was terrific. 
Like, no, I'm a realist man. 

865
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,160
Like I am I, I am a pragmatist. 
I'm also very emotional and I'm 

866
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,760
also a dreamer. 
So it's an interesting 

867
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,840
combination. 
But like, I, it's, it's maybe 

868
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,880
one of the reasons why I take 
coaching now. 

869
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,320
I'm not a tyrant with the kids. 
I'm not even a tyrant with my 

870
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,520
own son, But I do take it 
seriously in certain things are 

871
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,720
non negotiable, running off the 
field, you know, having a catch 

872
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,160
with purpose, just doing certain
things that are ingrained in me.

873
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,680
So I, I look at Danny and it's a
very complex evaluation because 

874
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,640
his greatness is undeniable. 
You just have to wonder if 

875
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,080
eventually it's, it's going to 
destroy him. 

876
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,000
I, I hope not. 
I, I don't know the answer to 

877
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,240
that. 
It could, you know, Pitino was 

878
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,440
never quite like that. 
But Rick has told me often he's 

879
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,800
used the word humble, like he's 
like, listen, I've been humbled,

880
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,000
man. 
And I think it's been a little 

881
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,120
bit of a softer, more congenial 
presentation from Rick. 

882
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
You know, he's talked about, 
he's even said it publicly about

883
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,360
how he's been humbled. 
So Danny's 20 years younger than

884
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Rick. 
And the one thing that you can't

885
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,120
buy, the one thing you can't 
study for, the one thing that 

886
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,600
you really can't accelerate is 
life experience. 

887
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,320
You just can't. 
You can't. 

888
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,680
You got to go through certain 
peaks and valleys to eventually 

889
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,640
get to where you're going to get
to as a person or as a 

890
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,480
professional coach, whatever 
your line of business might be. 

891
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,760
So maybe Danny does find that 
perfect middle of the road. 

892
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,520
I don't know, but we'll see. 
And with that, let's get to 3 

893
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,400
burning questions. 
Got a lot to do here, Of course.

894
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,640
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904
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,600
All right, question number one. 
There you go. 

905
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,280
That's why I wanted to lead into
it here. 

906
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,600
How long do you envision Danny 
Hurley coach at UConn? 

907
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,720
Man, I don't know the answer. 
I'm going to give you some 

908
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,080
thoughts. 
All right, so you think about 

909
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,600
the coaches with three 
championships. 

910
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Bobby's got Bobby Knights has he
has three. 

911
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Roy Williams has three. 
Jim Calhoun's got three as well.

912
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,760
Adolf Rupp has four. 
Coach K's got 5. 

913
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,320
John Wooden's got 10. 
See here. 

914
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Here's the thing. 
His, you know, I don't think 

915
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960
Bobby, pardon me, I don't think 
that Danny is one of these 

916
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,960
coaches. 
Now, some of these coaches are 

917
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,920
are programmed to bounce around.
All right. 

918
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,240
I think that for a long time 
that was that was Rick Pitino 

919
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,120
who loved the new challenge. 
You know. 

920
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,280
Yeah. 
And I'm not talking about 

921
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,880
starting at Hawaii and then 
going to be you and just working

922
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,720
your way up to Providence. 
But you know, from Providence to

923
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:38,200
the Knicks, from the Knicks to 
Kentucky, you know, the Celtics 

924
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,440
and you know, all the other 
thing, Louisville, St. 

925
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,080
John's reclamation, Rick, I 
think is different, inherently 

926
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,160
different in that regard from 
from Danny. 

927
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Now even Bobby Hurley was that 
he was at Arizona State for a 

928
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,280
long time and their dad never 
left Saint Anthony's and he had 

929
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,600
many opportunities to go and 
coach, whether it was college, 

930
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,840
you know, definitely college and
he never left. 

931
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,560
So I don't think that Danny 
Hurley is going to have some 

932
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,600
nomadic collegiate resume. 
He was at Wagner for two years. 

933
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Well, firstly he was coaching in
high school, right? 

934
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,960
And then he went to Wagner for 
two and then he got a better 

935
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,440
job, you know, more money, 
higher profile at Uri when they 

936
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960
were really down. 
Six years there, built it up. 

937
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,680
Then he took a great job at 
UConn, and that is a great job. 

938
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,280
It's been there eight years. 
He's got 2 championships, almost

939
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,280
got #3 I think that with three 
to five, within three to five 

940
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,920
years, I think something is 
going to change for Danny. 

941
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,200
He's either going to go to the 
NBA and scratch that itch. 

942
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,760
All right. 
Remember, he was kind of close 

943
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,240
to the Lakers job where they 
were deep in negotiations. 

944
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:45,080
And, you know, I think his wife 
really weighed in and it's like,

945
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,200
is this something you really 
want? 

946
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,240
I don't know. 
I don't I don't want to 

947
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,520
misrepresent what she said, but 
I don't know that she was loving

948
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,400
that that new road. 
And, you know, listen, as a 

949
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,360
husband, as a as a dad, you got 
to incorporate that. 

950
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,480
But there was a deep flirtation 
with the NBA and the Lakers. 

951
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,600
Maybe that happens. 
I also think that there might be

952
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,240
with him a little bit of a 
burnout period and and listen, 

953
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:11,720
if he doesn't fix stuff, maybe 
there's a situation where he has

954
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,960
to leave and it's not of his own
volition for a year or so and 

955
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,480
kind of rehabilitate his image. 
So that is a long answer to a 

956
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,000
very tough question. 
How long do I envision Dandy 

957
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,760
coaching at UConn? 
I'm going to say within the next

958
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,960
three to five years, and I would
say on the shorter side more 

959
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,160
than the longer side, something 
changes. 

960
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,200
A little respite, a little TV 
because he is very good on TV. 

961
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,520
Like, you know, you get Danny 
away from a referee or, you 

962
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,840
know, from a huddle or from 
barking at a player. 

963
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,520
Yeah, he's cool, he's funny, 
he's loose, he's honest, He's 

964
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,680
he's pretty. 
He's pretty good. 

965
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,560
I don't know. 
But my answer is at some point 

966
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,520
there's going to be a change and
it's going to be fairly soon. 

967
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,320
But I don't see Danny jumping 
around. 

968
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,160
Oh, the Kentucky job is open. 
Let me do this because it's 

969
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,320
better than UConn and they keep.
UConn is phenomenal. 

970
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Why you jumping around for, 
what, an extra 2 or $3,000,000? 

971
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,080
How much more money do you need?
It's the highest paid coach in 

972
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,200
the conference, as he should be.
And he's got a legacy that if he

973
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,520
wins one more and then maybe one
more after that, it's going to 

974
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,920
exceed Jim Calhoun, who is the 
greatest winner in the history 

975
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
of the Big East. 
So that is #1 all right #2 

976
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,080
little baseball here. 
Yeah, this sucks. 

977
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,080
Which Mets going to have to step
up the most in Juan Soto's 

978
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,560
absence? 
Now the camp injury, he's on the

979
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,640
10 day IL as you know, but it's 
going to be more than 10 days. 

980
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,280
You look at the two to three 
weeks and if it is 2 weeks, I 

981
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,080
don't think there'll be a minor 
league ramp up. 

982
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,800
If it is 3 weeks or a little bit
more, maybe there will be. 

983
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,960
I don't think Juan Soto needs a 
lot to get ready to hit. 

984
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,760
He's Juan Soto, so I'm not 
worried about that. 

985
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Listen, to answer the question, 
you could easily say, oh, Lindor

986
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,440
Bichette, those are easy 
answers, but they're supposed to

987
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,960
hit, so I don't incorporate 
them. 

988
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,520
You know, you can always say 
somebody like a Simeon who's 

989
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,960
showing signs or and those who 
didn't play much early, who's 

990
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,480
Poppin or Beatty, sure that OK, 
it works out a little bit. 

991
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,400
My answer though, is actually 
Francisco Alvarez. 

992
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,680
So very quietly, Francisco 
Alvarez leads the team in home 

993
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,360
runs, leads the team in total 
bases and his OPS is almost 

994
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600
1100. 
Now at the end of the year, he's

995
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520
not going to have an 1100 OPS 
nor will he be, I don't think 

996
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,640
even close to leading the team 
in home runs or total bases. 

997
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,640
However, he is a guy that can 
change the complexion of this 

998
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,440
batting order, and we've always 
thought that he just kind of 

999
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,520
fell from his perch as the 
number one prospect in baseball.

1000
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,240
I thought they called him up too
early in 2022. 

1001
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,480
They put him in an unwinnable 
spot in that series down in 

1002
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,720
Atlanta. 
Talk about pressure. 

1003
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:39,320
Geez. 
Then he got hurt a lot. 

1004
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,680
Then he wasn't performing, then 
he was overweight. 

1005
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,360
He's worked on his defense. 
He's in better shape and he's 

1006
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,440
hitting. 
So to me, I think now without 

1007
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,520
Soto, you're going to need him 
to, you know, stay on a heater 

1008
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,560
for at least, you know, a couple
of weeks here. 

1009
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,760
But then when Soda returns, I 
think if he can play well. 

1010
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,360
And I I'm, I'm kind of still a 
little bullish on it. 

1011
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,480
Not fully, not fully. 
I never fully wrote him off, 

1012
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,880
though. 
If this is a version that we've 

1013
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,000
never seen of Alvarez this year,
and listen again, it's going to 

1014
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,680
be diminished #1 he's not going 
to do this for the whole year. 

1015
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,120
He's not that kind of hitter, I 
don't think. 

1016
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,120
But if he can have a good, if, 
he could have his best year, put

1017
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,440
it that way. 
Now, when Soto does return, now 

1018
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,360
the lower third of the batting 
order is much more of an issue, 

1019
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,600
harder to navigate, and it's 
going to make pitchers really, 

1020
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:33,000
really regret having to face in 
sequence Lindor and then Soto 

1021
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,280
and then Bichette eventually 
went all three are hitting, 

1022
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,920
which eventually, at some point,
they will. 

1023
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,480
All right, So my answer is 
Alvarez #3 it is Masters week. 

1024
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,480
Did you know that? 
J Rod? 

1025
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,600
Yep. 
Little golf down at Augusta. 

1026
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,320
I love the Masters. 
I watch it. 

1027
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,800
I mean, I pretty much watch 
every shot even and you know, 

1028
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,480
I'll be on a baseball field all 
weekend this weekend, which is 

1029
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,080
the only place I I really want 
to be or I should say no place 

1030
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,320
I'd rather be at this stage in 
my life watching my kids 

1031
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,960
baseball and softball, as you 
know. 

1032
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,400
But I will record Augusta. 
I will come back and I will 

1033
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,920
watch it. 
I will watch every shot. 

1034
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,240
I don't need a Tiger Woods. 
I don't need a Phil Mickelson. 

1035
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,680
Now, this is the one tournament 
where you really don't need 

1036
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,120
them. 
Some of you need them for 

1037
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,680
everything. 
I don't because I I love golf 

1038
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,200
and I love watching golf. 
Now I'm going to give you a dark

1039
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,960
horse here. 
He's 10,000 to 1 to win the 

1040
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,840
Masters. 
Also, I'm going real dark horse.

1041
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,200
That's Harris English. 
All right, if you follow the PGA

1042
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Tour and you follow golf here, 
number one, all right. 

1043
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,360
He played pretty well with 
Augusta last year. 

1044
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,160
He just finished outside the top
ten. 

1045
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,640
He was number 12/20/25. 
He's been, he was a runner up in

1046
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,880
at the PGA Championship and the 
Open Championship overseas. 

1047
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,120
So he's got some chops in terms 
of showing up and not being 

1048
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,320
overwhelmed by the big stage. 
And he's had a very interesting 

1049
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,880
start to his 2026 season. 
Now he hasn't made every cut. 

1050
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,360
He's made most. 
I think he's made seven. 

1051
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,400
But of the seven cuts that he's 
made, he hasn't. 

1052
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,000
He hasn't had a top 20 finish 
yet, but he has not finished out

1053
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,720
of the top 30. 
So he's consistently been in 

1054
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,520
those seven, those seven cuts 
there, those 7 tournaments. 

1055
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,680
It's between 20 and 30. 
So when you're between 20 and 

1056
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,000
30, you know something's just a 
little off. 

1057
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,480
Maybe you're not driving the 
ball great. 

1058
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,040
Maybe you get some unlucky 
bounces. 

1059
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,320
Maybe you're not putting well. 
You know you're not rolling it 

1060
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,360
well. 
You're not, you're not, you know

1061
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,720
you're not, you're not banging 
the irons the way you usually 

1062
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,000
do. 
I think that he is a good 

1063
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,320
putter. 
I know he's a good ball striker.

1064
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,080
His eye seems to fit the layout 
of Augusta. 

1065
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,960
There you go. 
That is my 2026 dark horse 

1066
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,400
candidate Harris English. 
So if you want to put down 100 

1067
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,040
bucks, maybe this changes by the
time they get off on Thursday. 

1068
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,160
Right now it's about 10,000 to 
one. 

1069
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:43,040
He's with a bunch of other 
people. 

1070
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:46,280
So if you bet 100 bucks and he 
wins it, you win 10,000. 

1071
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,160
There it is. 
All right, 3 burning questions 

1072
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,000
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1073
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,400
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1074
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,120
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Remember the name Sullivan 

1075
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Pennsylvan pain J Rod. 
By the way, how was the set and 

1076
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,920
let me hear about. 
This it was great. 

1077
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,040
Wait First off shout out Harris 
English. 

1078
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,520
I spoke to him a few weeks ago 
on this other pod. 

1079
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,520
I did not like me, not like me 
no. 

1080
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,800
I just said what's up to him? 
But very nice guy so. 

1081
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,920
Wait, what do you, what do you 
mean another pod? 

1082
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,560
So you're making all the money 
here, buddy? 

1083
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,840
What you got going on? 
Got some side hustle? 

1084
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,160
No, I mean, I do a show with 
these two dudes. 

1085
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,920
I don't know if you you might 
know one of them. 

1086
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,280
I do a show with these guys, 
Drew Butler and. 

1087
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,840
Jake from Jake from former 
quarterback, Yep. 

1088
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,800
From UGA. 
Yep, George. 

1089
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,800
He's the boy and so they talk to
like a bunch of former former 

1090
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,320
UGA athletes and his English is 
a former UGA. 

1091
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,600
He's a bulldog, yeah. 
Athlete. 

1092
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,640
So there you go. 
Good dudes, so easy to root for,

1093
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,200
right? 
Pretty good. 

1094
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,760
Yeah. 
Yeah, time. 

1095
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,240
Nice man. 
Very nice, but yeah, the set was

1096
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:53,880
awesome. 
Tell me about it. 

1097
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,200
Let's. 
See, that was so it was super 

1098
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,600
fun. 
I mean, you know, I said last 

1099
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,800
week I was like, I don't get 
nervous before shows. 

1100
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,480
I get, you know, I get a little 
tense, but I don't get nervous. 

1101
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,040
Oh, I was nervous. 
You were. 

1102
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,600
Not sweat and bricks. 
But I got you. 

1103
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200
You know, I hadn't played a show
in probably a year or something 

1104
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,520
like that. 
OK, a year, maybe like 10 months

1105
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,440
and so little nerves there, but 
super fun went great. 

1106
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,360
You know, fans showed up. 
We probably have like 50 

1107
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040
something people there. 
So super great show. 

1108
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,960
All right, man, all right. 
Now when when you're playing, I 

1109
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,160
noticed the same with speaking. 
You start to show those those 

1110
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,920
little butterflies just that 
anticipation as soon as you 

1111
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,000
start strumming, that bass all 
gone or. 

1112
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,960
Oh yeah, By the way, for me, I 
guess playing bass it's easy. 

1113
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,600
You know, sometimes people can 
hear you, sometimes they can't. 

1114
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,640
So it's not too bad. 
You know, for my boy, maybe it's

1115
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,000
different, you know what he's 
got to sing and stuff like that.

1116
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Maybe it takes a little more 
time to get the nerves off. 

1117
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,160
But no, for me, literally the 
second, the second the music 

1118
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,240
stops, I'm just my mind's 
elsewhere. 

1119
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,440
And if I recall correctly there,
Jay, so there were three and 

1120
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,280
three acts. 
You were not the opener, you 

1121
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,280
were not the close. 
You were. 

1122
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,520
You were in between. 
Yeah, we were in between and it 

1123
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,080
was, it was interesting. 
I mean, the show, like the fans 

1124
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,520
were very, very divided show by 
show. 

1125
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,120
It would be like the first band 
would go, OK, there, people 

1126
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,440
would come and then they'd 
leave. 

1127
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,440
Then we went up, they left, 
yeah. 

1128
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,520
Then we went up, our people 
came, then they left. 

1129
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Then the third band came. 
So I don't know. 

1130
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,160
It wasn't as I guess it wasn't 
as congealed of a show as maybe 

1131
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,960
you would think. 
Got it, Got it. 

1132
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,120
You guys have access to a little
green room beforehand? 

1133
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Dude, this place was it was 
funny. 

1134
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,960
It was like it wasn't even a 
green room. 

1135
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,440
It was like a green closet. 
It was like it was literally 

1136
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,000
just a hallway that led from the
main room to the stage. 

1137
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,760
Yeah, yeah. 
So not no chairs or anything. 

1138
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,840
So no, no, no post concert 
partying back there Like no. 

1139
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,600
See, usually there's a little, 
you know, pregame, postgame, 

1140
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,560
like kind of fun in the green 
room. 

1141
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,640
But no, not this year. 
We, I remember we did that at 

1142
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,320
the BT and Sal live show with 
Aaron Boone. 

1143
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,040
We had, I was at the Vogel 
Theater in Redbank, sold it out.

1144
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,600
It was awesome. 
And we had our own green room 

1145
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,320
and a couple of sponsors came by
to the celebratory shot 

1146
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,040
beforehand. 
And I can only imagine. 

1147
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,440
Yeah. 
But I, I know it's different. 

1148
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,560
I mean, you know, you look at 
bands like Mötley Crüe. 

1149
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,280
Good God. 
What? 

1150
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,680
What? 
What were they doing behind? 

1151
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,000
Them what we're doing, no. 
No, what we're doing. 

1152
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,720
We might, you know, it's 
probably not do a little 

1153
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,160
something, but not not Mötley 
Crüe. 

1154
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,480
Little something. 
You're not Nikki Sixx. 

1155
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,560
God forbid you know who who 
actually said on his on his 

1156
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,880
answering machine that he was 
dead. 

1157
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600
You know that story, right? 
No, you don't know that story. 

1158
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,000
Wait, did you see? 
Hold on. 

1159
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,760
Did you not see the? 
I haven't seen, no, I'm not a 

1160
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,400
huge Mötley Crüe guy. 
The 80s have kind of missed. 

1161
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,240
I go sixties, 70s. 
All right, you kind of missed me

1162
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,520
there. 
Missed you the 80s. 

1163
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,200
Yeah, yeah. 
OK. 

1164
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,920
So let me take you. 
So the 60s, you talking 

1165
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,360
Woodstock, you talking, you 
know, Janis Joplin, you talking 

1166
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,920
The Who? 
I'm not a big Who fan, but 

1167
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,520
talking, okay, Jimi Hendrix, of 
course, groups like The Beatles,

1168
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,440
The Beatles of yes, The Beatles 
100%. 

1169
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,120
And then you get into the 70s, 
you got LED zip popping. 

1170
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,800
Now you've got, I mean, also 
Black Sabbath, Oh yes, with 

1171
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,400
Ozzy, but you've also got like 
The Commodores Earth, Wind and 

1172
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,680
Fire. 
Like you've got this confluence 

1173
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,160
of all these different types of 
genres in the 70s. 

1174
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,280
That's more the line. 
That's more the line that I 

1175
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,680
start going down is like Marvin 
Gaye. 

1176
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,360
The sort of sort of line is like
really my wheelhouse. 

1177
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,880
But yeah, yeah, we. 
Got so talented, Michael 

1178
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,960
Jackson, of course I got you all
right. 

1179
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,160
And now the 80s. 
I love the 80s, but I understand

1180
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,320
why it's not for everybody. 
Like, you know, the, the head 

1181
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,680
banging, you know, the, the 
Motley Crues and Def Leppard who

1182
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,640
I mean, I love, you know, I 
could talk 80s music all day. 

1183
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,720
I love that stuff. 
And then the 90s, you get into 

1184
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,240
the grunge, you you get Nirvana,
obviously you start getting that

1185
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,920
grunge impact, right? 
So and and so that that's what 

1186
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,000
pulled you into the 90s, right, 
J Rod? 

1187
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,440
Yeah, yeah, big time. 
Nirvana, Like Nirvana, Beastie 

1188
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,800
Boys was my introduction. 
And then as time went on, Tribe 

1189
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,200
Called Quest, OK, N.W.A was kind
of like where I really suck. 

1190
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,560
My teeth in OK. 
And then of course you get, you 

1191
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,440
know, West Coast rap, you get 
you get Dre, you get Snoop and 

1192
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,440
then M and AM and M comes in 
late 90s. 

1193
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,640
You got Jay-Z. 
OK, I got it. 

1194
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,880
I got it. 
So the the thing of it, you have

1195
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,360
to even if you don't like Mötley
Crüe that much, just because you

1196
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,200
love music, you got to chat. 
I think it was on apples. 

1197
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,880
The dirt, What was it called? 
The dirt right or something? 

1198
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,280
Like that? 
Yeah, it was about the. 

1199
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Yes, I got to see it. 
You got to see it. 

1200
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,320
It's really, really good. 
And there was this one scene and

1201
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,880
trust me, I'm not glorifying 
this is this is this is brutal. 

1202
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:50,080
But there was a scene where 
Nikki 6 was was so hooked on on 

1203
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,360
heroin that he record, I guess, 
I guess he did a batch. 

1204
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,400
I guess that's the terminology 
for heroin. 

1205
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,160
Did a batch of heroin, got a bad
batch and recorded on pre cell 

1206
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,040
phones, recorded on his home or 
his apartment answering machine.

1207
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,000
Something along the lines of, 
like, I actually, I think this 

1208
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,800
is kind of verbatim, like, Hey, 
you've reached Nikki 6. 

1209
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,360
I can't get to the phone right 
now because I'm dead. 

1210
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,840
He actually thought that he 
died. 

1211
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:16,840
Wow. 
Yeah. 

1212
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,360
Dude, really, really rough 
stuff. 

1213
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,400
But in terms of the music, like 
Mötley Crüe starting a song, 

1214
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,520
I'll take Mötley Crüe starting a
song pretty much over just about

1215
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,760
anybody. 
So good. 

1216
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,920
I'm happy you did well. 
I'm happy you had fun. 

1217
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,160
Your parents went to go and 
watch. 

1218
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,200
Yeah, no, my mom had some 
Passover business to tend to, so

1219
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,960
my dad pulled up. 
It was. 

1220
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,840
It was very fun. 
Pops pulled up. 

1221
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,120
I love it. 
That's great man. 

1222
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,600
I gotta make a show at some 
point. 

1223
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,680
It's gonna be hard, dude. 
Come at some point, anytime you 

1224
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,760
can listen. 
I'll keep you posted. 

1225
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,400
Maybe we'll try to make it out. 
To Jersey expand those horizons.

1226
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,280
Ego man. 
Let me get this one from 

1227
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,480
Charlie. 
F66, 75. 

1228
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,640
Now, if you look at Alvarez's 
numbers after the Mets sent them

1229
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,880
down last July, he's done really
well. 

1230
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,120
True. 
He did come back and hit. 

1231
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,200
I think that really helped him 
get back on track. 

1232
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,440
Something teams are afraid to 
do. 

1233
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Some something teams are afraid 
to do sometimes. 

1234
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,320
Yeah. 
I mean, the Yankees wouldn't do 

1235
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,560
it with Volpe. 
Now, that was a big thing on our

1236
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,400
show back in the day. 
Send Volpe down. 

1237
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,240
I didn't think that they should 
send Volpe down. 

1238
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,000
Who knows, maybe in hindsight it
would have triggered something 

1239
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,320
and it would have helped elevate
him. 

1240
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,840
One thing I do know, I know that
this about Alvarez, but one 

1241
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,000
thing I know Caballero's doing 
nothing to prevent Volpe from 

1242
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,600
coming back and just. 
Taking the shortstop job. 

1243
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,440
So he has not been good at all 
that shortstop. 

1244
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,320
So I think that, yeah, there are
certain players where it really 

1245
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,360
works for Roy Holiday back in 
the day with Toronto was sent to

1246
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,600
the minors and they sent him to 
a ball which I believe is 

1247
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,360
Dunedin. 
I believe that's their A ball. 

1248
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,160
Certainly was. 
And I think it still is out 

1249
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,960
there in Florida and and it 
really worked for him. 

1250
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,960
It's worked for others. 
Jason Dominguez right now is 

1251
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,400
hitting the tar out of it, but 
still isn't playing a really 

1252
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,240
solid outfield. 
I don't know what the Yankees do

1253
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,720
with him, but yeah, yeah, 
sometimes it could reset. 

1254
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,680
And even some of the other Mets 
think about this. 

1255
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,480
Like I feel like every time, I 
don't know if it's the ballpark,

1256
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,840
I don't know if it's the league 
that they play in, but I feel 

1257
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:11,120
like every time a Met is sent 
down to Syracuse, AAA Syracuse, 

1258
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,720
right when I watch S&Y, all I 
see is up. 

1259
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,320
There's a home run for Mauricio.
He's back by the way up. 

1260
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,840
There's a couple of home runs 
for Brett Beatty up good night 

1261
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,840
for Alvarez, couple of home runs
and a double. 

1262
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,920
You know, I, I don't know what's
in the air out there. 

1263
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,280
I, I don't think it's, that's 
not an altitude thing. 

1264
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,760
I don't know the dimensions of 
the ballpark, but I feel like 

1265
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,760
every Met prospect, the Antos, 
whomever get sent down, they 

1266
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,480
come up, they go down and they 
hit. 

1267
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,280
They could be hitting 112 in the
bigs. 

1268
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,720
As soon as they go to AAA, they 
just RIP. 

1269
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,480
And it's not just like, yeah, 
it's not like every Major League

1270
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,560
goes down and hits right away in
the minors, but it does seem to 

1271
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,960
happen a lot with the Mets now 
and their prospects. 

1272
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,760
If this is a foreshadow of 
things to come with him, 

1273
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,680
fantastic. 
Yeah. 

1274
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,040
I mean, that that is that would 
be a real boost to their 

1275
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,080
offense, certainly without Soto.
And then when Soto comes back 

1276
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,880
and Soto does what Soto does and
the other guys around them, 

1277
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,720
Lendur and Bichette, start 
hitting with great consistency, 

1278
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,840
well, now you got 123. 
Massive issue. 

1279
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,840
Oh, you know, and there's other 
questions, too. 

1280
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Polanco #1 with the with the 
Achilles tendonitis and you 

1281
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,200
know, are they going to have 
enough power without Pete? 

1282
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,880
These are stories that are going
to follow the Mets team all 

1283
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,480
year. 
But you know, you get to that 

1284
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,320
bottom 3rd. 
It's unfair to expect a lot from

1285
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,160
Benjor Young playing the 
outfield now, but if Alvarez 

1286
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,080
could be a staple, yeah, it's a 
big win for the Mets. 

1287
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,160
All right, let's get to this 
over the weekend. 

1288
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,440
Dexter Lawrence, right, trade 
request. 

1289
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,600
All right, now it is a it's a 
big thing because he's he's a 

1290
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,840
terrific player. 
Didn't have a good year, but is 

1291
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,040
a terrific interior defensive 
lineman, certainly one of the 

1292
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,520
best in football Numbers bear 
that out. 

1293
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,160
So let me just cut to the chase 
here. 

1294
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Number one. 
Do I think they'll trade him? 

1295
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,880
No, I don't #1 no #2 would I? 
I'm bite. 

1296
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,360
I, I actually would probably say
more yes than no, but it doesn't

1297
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,320
matter what I think now we get 
to the third part. 

1298
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,200
It's what Jim, it's what it's 
what John Harbaugh thinks. 

1299
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:03,160
If John Harbaugh basically goes 
to ownership and says, hey, 

1300
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,280
listen, and then of course, GM, 
but it's, we know it's 

1301
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,760
Harbaugh's show. 
And then Shane yell, what is 

1302
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,400
Shane going to say? 
Whatever Harbaugh says, that's 

1303
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,480
what Shane's going to do. 
We all know that by now, no 

1304
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,880
matter what change Joe Shane 
tells us, it's it's Harbaugh's 

1305
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,560
show. 
So to me, there's a couple ways 

1306
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,800
to look at this. 
Number one, I do believe he's 

1307
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,280
underpaid based on what he 
signs. 

1308
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,000
Make it $20 million a year. 
He's going to be looking for mid

1309
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,680
30s. 
OK, not the best timing to 

1310
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,120
actually go and put your flag in
the ground when you had a shit 

1311
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,200
season, which he did. 
But understood there was also 

1312
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,440
the injury from 2024 in November
and it was great in 2024 that I 

1313
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,000
do think lingered into 2025. 
Sacked numbers were down across 

1314
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,240
the board. 
Not a good year. 

1315
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,400
Didn't look engaged, didn't look
to be in great shape. 

1316
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,760
And and Carl Banks, my buddy 
Carl, who is generally much more

1317
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,600
positive than not, he basically 
said, I think the quote was 

1318
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,600
nobody respects you, nobody's 
throwing double S at you 

1319
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280
anymore. 
Last year for Carl Banks to say 

1320
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,200
that you know, that you had a 
down season. 

1321
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,600
Now again, do I think they'll 
trade him? 

1322
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,720
I don't, at the end of the day, 
because of the timing and 

1323
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,080
because of what he means to the 
team. 

1324
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,200
What I do it. 
I might. 

1325
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,320
I'll tell you why in a minute. 
But it is. 

1326
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,880
It's still not nothing. 
It's not nothing because. 

1327
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,920
And I'm not worried about the 
offseason workouts, dude. 

1328
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,880
They're voluntary. 
Whatever. 

1329
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,440
Yeah. 
You want camaraderie? 

1330
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,280
Yeah, it sounds good. 
You want everybody in the weight

1331
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,080
room? 
Come on, buddy. 

1332
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,280
You know, it's not high school, 
dude. 

1333
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,000
You get ready for your job, You 
get ready in the offseason. 

1334
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,880
I would have to think Dexter 
Lawrence will be a pro and he'll

1335
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,120
get his work in no matter where 
he is, even if he's not the 

1336
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,040
facility lift in. 
I'm not worried about that, but 

1337
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,120
it is interesting. 
Like I to me, this would feel 

1338
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:45,840
more In Sync with if they, if 
like Brian Dabel was still the 

1339
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,080
coach and he's just kind of 
like, you know what, number one,

1340
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,920
I'm underpaid and which he is 
and #2 I'm tired of losing. 

1341
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,640
Like I, I don't love. 
And I'm, and I'm, I'm really, 

1342
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,160
I'm, I'm straddling the line, 
not because I'm afraid to, but 

1343
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,920
because there's a lot of things 
at play here. 

1344
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,720
And I want to be fair to Dex, 
right? 

1345
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,880
Because both things could be 
true. 

1346
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,000
You can have a shit season, but 
you could still be a stud and 

1347
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,960
he's still young enough. 
But the part about him that 

1348
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,200
worries me, you would think that
he would be galvanized with the 

1349
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,440
arrival of John Harbaugh. 
You would think a guy who won a 

1350
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,320
championship and a guy who every
year wins 1213 games and has the

1351
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,240
Ravens is one of the best teams 
in football. 

1352
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,440
You know, you would think that 
you would want to kind of maybe 

1353
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,960
be a little more quiet about 
that what? 

1354
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Whatever. 
Although maybe this is the 

1355
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,880
leverage, that the only leverage
he has him. 

1356
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,040
You got to do what you got to 
do. 

1357
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,480
And I don't begrudge players for
doing that. 

1358
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,160
I'm not getting on them the 
reason why I might be inclined 

1359
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,400
to trade him. 
You got to look at. 

1360
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,360
You got to look at the 
trajectory of the New York 

1361
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,080
Giants. 
Jackson Dart is really young and

1362
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,480
Jackson Dart is really good. 
All right, Malik Neighbors is a 

1363
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,360
superstar. 
And I saw the the amended report

1364
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,880
over the weekend, slight 
amendment there where, you know,

1365
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,960
rather than being ready for 
training camp, which by the way,

1366
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,840
is something the Giants should 
never put out there. 

1367
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,880
I don't know why they did that. 
I'm not going to crush him for 

1368
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,000
doing that. 
But I thought it was a little 

1369
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,680
irresponsible and I thought it 
was very unnecessary. 

1370
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,560
Just say you you hope, which is 
now what they're saying. 

1371
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,600
Little adjustment, as I said, 
you know, you hope that Malik 

1372
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,680
Neighbors or the anticipation, 
whatever word you want to use is

1373
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,720
the focus is on a week 1 return 
for Malik Neighbors. 

1374
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,760
That's it. 
If he doesn't have to be out 

1375
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,800
there July 26th, you know, 
running gassers, whatever it is,

1376
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:33,560
or in shells on August 1st like 
that, that's inconsequential to 

1377
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:38,560
the Giants season. 
Now the Giants to me and I think

1378
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,760
on on with with their 5th pick 
this year, I think they're going

1379
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,960
to do one or two things. 
I think they're going to go 

1380
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,640
offensive line, which I am 
absolutely OK with or I think 

1381
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,360
they need to go somebody like 
Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs, 

1382
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,560
which I'm absolutely OK with. 
They're not going to receive 

1383
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:54,680
route 5. 
They're not. 

1384
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,280
Could they trade out? 
They could. 

1385
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,360
And then maybe that opens up a 
door for them to do something 

1386
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,720
else with the acquired and the 
additional draft equity here. 

1387
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,600
But just saying that they stick 
at 5 online and there's 22 two 

1388
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,320
prospects worthy of top 10 picks
online or one of the two 

1389
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,320
gentlemen that young players 
that I just mentioned in styles 

1390
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,440
or downs. 
Now I I bring up Jackson Dart 

1391
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:22,080
because Jackson Dart is at I 
mean, he's at his own 13 yard 

1392
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,920
line, if that as he begins his 
quest to become a great NFL 

1393
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,040
quarterback. 
And I really think the Jackson 

1394
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:32,560
Dart has a chance to be a great 
NFL quarterback, not just a good

1395
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,760
quarterback for the Giants, but 
I think if the Giants build this

1396
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,000
thing out properly and he can 
stay healthy, which is a caveat 

1397
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,920
you always have to include, 
especially for a running 

1398
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,760
quarterback who has had 
concussion injuries, right? 

1399
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,640
You, you, everything that I see 
about Jackson Dart screams 

1400
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,920
franchise quarterback. 
And everything that I see about 

1401
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,240
Jackson Dart gives me confidence
to think he's the kind of player

1402
01:07:54,480 --> 01:08:00,160
that rolls into Philly or Dallas
or Chicago or Green Bay or 

1403
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:05,800
Detroit or San Francisco or 
Seattle, any other good team in,

1404
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,040
you know, in two years or so, 
when he when he's more 

1405
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,680
experienced, he's got better 
players around them and wins the

1406
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,840
road playoff game. 
I'm not even saying just, I'm 

1407
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,840
not even saying just MetLife. 
I think he's that kind of 

1408
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,000
player. 
I think guys will follow him. 

1409
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,399
I think he's got the perfect 
combination of talent and 

1410
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:25,279
charisma and belief like what he
exudes. 

1411
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,359
That's the guy that you want to 
run out of a tunnel for Jackson 

1412
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:30,800
Dart. 
That's the guy. 

1413
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:35,640
Now, there's a lot of things 
that he can't control, who's 

1414
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,640
drafted, what the roster looks 
like around him. 

1415
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,439
I get all that. 
So the things he can control, 

1416
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,640
getting out of bounds and not 
absorbing the hit from the 

1417
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,040
linebacker who's trying to break
you in two into two, you know, 

1418
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,000
slide when you have to. 
I respect the aggression. 

1419
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,359
I respect the wand. 
But it's you're playing the long

1420
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:54,479
game here. 
Giants aren't winning anything 

1421
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,640
this year. 
And this all ties back to Dexter

1422
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,760
Lawrence, at least for me, on 
some level, maybe not a primary 

1423
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,240
level. 
But if this was Year 6 for 

1424
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,080
Jackson Dart and the Giants 
were, you know, had already 

1425
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,120
played a couple of playoff games
here and they were much further 

1426
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,000
along where they currently are. 
And the defense was better. 

1427
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,080
And the old line, which has 
gotten a little bit better over 

1428
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,000
the last, I mean, it couldn't be
worse, my God. 

1429
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,600
But it has at least gotten 
better. 

1430
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,080
You know, that would be 
different at that point, I would

1431
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,720
say. 
All right, man, you got to bite 

1432
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,560
#1 Lawrence deserves more money,
even off a bad year. 

1433
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,920
But I think that the 
consequences of not doing right 

1434
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,640
by Dexter Lawrence and trading 
him for draft picks, you know, 

1435
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,080
who are not yet ready to 
contribute on that level, 

1436
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,439
theoretically, that would be a 
disservice to the direction of 

1437
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,600
the Giants. 
But because of Dart, because 

1438
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,600
Dart's just starting and because
Neighbors, you know, hopefully 

1439
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,160
plays week one, I'm not sure if 
he does. 

1440
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,800
And even if he does, is he going
to really be Malik Neighbors 

1441
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,439
week 1? 
I think that that's unrealistic.

1442
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,920
I don't think that that's a fair
ask. 

1443
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,800
I don't, I don't I don't think 
it's a responsible ask, at least

1444
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,320
perceptually to think that he's 
going to be, you know, week 1 

1445
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,720
going for 9 for $1.31 for two 
touchdowns. 

1446
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,200
Now, if he does, maybe that just
reinforces the fact that he's an

1447
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,720
absolute freak. 
And he might be he might be that

1448
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,920
kind of freaky healer because he
is that kind of freaky athlete. 

1449
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,080
And I love the neighbors pick 
when they took him. 

1450
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,360
I'm on the record with that. 
You can't, you can't. 

1451
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:20,640
Injuries happen, right? 
But if somebody is going to give

1452
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,840
me what the Raiders were going 
to get from Max Crosby or what 

1453
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:30,200
The Jets got for Q or what 
Dallas got for Parsons, then why

1454
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,560
the hell am I not making that 
trade? 

1455
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,040
See, there is a part of me, 
while I know Dexter Lawrence is 

1456
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,400
Gotti's, I almost want to use 
the word great. 

1457
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,040
Like if it wasn't for last year,
I would use the word great. 

1458
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,040
I would. 
He's a preeminent run stopper 

1459
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,280
and he gets to the quarterback, 
except last year, you know, he's

1460
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,320
a bull. 
He commands a double team, which

1461
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,880
makes everybody else around you 
better. 

1462
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,720
Except last year, the Giants 
defense, even with him, was 

1463
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,960
what, 31 against the run? 
Horrendous. 

1464
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,120
So there's a lot of things at 
play here. 

1465
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:10,160
I'm going to keep an open mind 
if I am now, I don't know what 

1466
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,600
Harbaugh's thinking. 
Here's what I would be thinking.

1467
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,000
I'd call him and he may be has 
already reached out. 

1468
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,720
And this is where your 
experience as a Super Bowl 

1469
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,160
champion and a guy with cachet 
around the league, this is where

1470
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,520
it would carry more weight. 
No disrespect to Brian Dabel, 

1471
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,760
who I do like. 
Like if Dabel made this call or 

1472
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,400
you know, some of these other 
Pat Shermer McAdoo, right? 

1473
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,440
You call him up, you talk to 
him. 

1474
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:37,800
Hey, listen, I get it. 
It's business. 

1475
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,840
Do what you got to do. 
You are a fan. 

1476
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,160
You are a foundational piece. 
We want you stay in shape. 

1477
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:44,960
I've already talked to 
ownership. 

1478
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,560
We want to keep you. 
The numbers will take care of 

1479
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,040
itself at some point, but we 
want you. 

1480
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,840
But then I've got to ask him and
I've got to be satisfied with 

1481
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,200
his response. 
Do you want to be a New York 

1482
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,840
football giant? 
Do you want to be a part of 

1483
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,080
something that's going to be 
hard early and then possibly 

1484
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,200
amazing, which you've never 
experienced so far as a pro 

1485
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,040
late? 
And if I get a satisfactory 

1486
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,440
answer and you've got to be able
to read people and sometimes 

1487
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:12,120
they can lie to your face and it
seems authentic and they could 

1488
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,320
fool you. 
It happens in these draft 

1489
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,240
interviews all the time. 
You know, you talk to a you talk

1490
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,160
to a young player and you think 
he's all about football and he 

1491
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:25,200
projects this amazing, you know,
attitude and just all in and 

1492
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,560
team guy. 
And then he gets in the 

1493
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,280
building. 
He's lazy, sloppy, he's late, 

1494
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:32,880
he's weak, you know, 
inconsistent in the weight room.

1495
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,920
Doesn't know. 
I'm not saying I want to say he 

1496
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,000
doesn't know the plays. 
I mean, you're going to know the

1497
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,440
plays, but doesn't know the 
playbook on that next level. 

1498
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:43,600
You know what I mean? 
Like that anticipatory gene that

1499
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,480
generally separates the great 
ones from the good ones, or the 

1500
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:49,120
good ones from the average ones,
or the average ones from the 

1501
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:54,440
subpar busts. 
So whatever John Harbaugh wants 

1502
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,080
is what's going to happen, and 
that's what should happen. 

1503
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,440
But I do think that it's a 
little more complex than just 

1504
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:05,040
saying Dexter's a great player. 
Pay him or he was awful last 

1505
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,520
year. 
This is the beginning of the 

1506
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,480
end. 
Trade him. 

1507
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,360
Because if you trade him right 
now, you get to trade him for 

1508
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,680
$0.65 on the dollar. 
And here's the other thing, too.

1509
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:17,320
Maybe this is not his 
responsibility to do this, but 

1510
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,920
his camp should have calculated 
this, all right, Like Dexter 

1511
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,600
Lawrence has to worry about 
Dexter Lawrence. 

1512
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,880
But Dexter Lawrence's people who
handle his this stuff, his camp,

1513
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,000
his agents, his reps, they 
should have factored this in. 

1514
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,120
He didn't just wake up yesterday
and say I want out. 

1515
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,000
They won't. 
They obviously know he's unhappy

1516
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,440
making $20 million a year. 
I think he's, what, the ninth 

1517
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:39,160
highest or tenth highest paid 
interior, the D lineman And 

1518
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,320
these numbers are going through 
the roof. 

1519
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,240
So he's behind the curve. 
He deserves more and he's going 

1520
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,080
to get it whether it's here or 
somewhere else. 

1521
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,960
But what they should have done 
if they wanted to really 

1522
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,880
maximize leverage and give every
team a chance to jump in here 

1523
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,720
and give the Giants something to
think about from a trade 

1524
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,400
perspective. 
This should have been done 

1525
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,640
before free agency because then 
the Giants could have pivoted. 

1526
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:03,840
Like right now, who are you 
going to sign if Dexter's gone? 

1527
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,280
You're not drafting an interior,
but you're not drafting an 

1528
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,720
interior defensive lineman at 5 
#1 There's nobody that's gonna, 

1529
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,800
you know, you got Bailey, you 
got some of these edge rushers, 

1530
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,440
you got Styles, you got Caleb 
Downs, you got a bunch of 

1531
01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:17,160
receivers, you got Mendoza, you 
got a running back. 

1532
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,760
Jeremiah Love. 
You know, there's not an 

1533
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,360
abundance at all of of interior 
line. 

1534
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,920
Ruben Bayne looks like he's 
moving back in the top 10, even 

1535
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,560
though he's got short arms. 
Like, I don't know, I just, I 

1536
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,600
don't think it was played out 
well by his camp. 

1537
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,160
I don't begrudge him for doing 
it. 

1538
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,560
It's his right. 
You get X amount of years to 

1539
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,160
maximize your earning power. 
Go do what you got to do, secure

1540
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,760
every penny. 
Because one thing that we know 

1541
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,440
about the NFL, when you can't 
play anymore or a team's 

1542
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,240
finances are all out of whack 
because they're irresponsible 

1543
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,840
and they're poorly run, they 
don't care about you and they 

1544
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,360
don't care about that. 
Your family. 

1545
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,520
It doesn't matter what they 
project publicly. 

1546
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,800
It's a bottom line, blunt 
business. 

1547
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,280
And they will make you 
restructure or they will cut 

1548
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,640
you. 
Whatever happens, go get yours, 

1549
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:02,280
especially in the NFL, go get 
it. 

1550
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,280
But I thought his timing was 
off. 

1551
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,840
But the bottom line is whatever 
John Horborn wants, that's what 

1552
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,120
John's going to get. 
Make no mistake about it. 

1553
01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:13,640
Let me see here. 
I think this was strictly 

1554
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,880
business by Lawrence. 
I think they'll I think there'll

1555
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,160
be no issue at all. 
Garrett did the same as an 

1556
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,640
example, one of many really 
true. 

1557
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,280
You know, I get that. 
I mean a little different. 

1558
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,960
I mean, you talk about if you 
talk about Garrett Wilson, 

1559
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,600
Garrett's younger, there's a lot
more upside to Garrett will. 

1560
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,560
I mean, Garrett Wilson's been 
it's AI know he was hurt last 

1561
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,920
year, but Garrett Wilson's had a
terrific start to his career 

1562
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,360
with some of the worst 
quarterback play this century. 

1563
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,480
You know, I mean, with nobody 
opposite him. 

1564
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,040
So I mean, and The Jets 
basically down by multiple 

1565
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,720
touchdowns every week. 
And you know that if you're 

1566
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,880
going to throw the ball, you're 
going to throw to him because up

1567
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,680
until last year, then you have a
viable tight end like they did a

1568
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,760
Mason Taylor and he got hurt. 
So anyway, I don't know if it's 

1569
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,920
apples to apples there, but I, I
mean, I, I get the business of 

1570
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,040
football. 
I don't know if it's quite the 

1571
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,640
same because one thing nobody 
ever said about Garrett Wilson 

1572
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,400
was does he love football? 
Has he reached his apex as a 

1573
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,600
player? 
They are. 

1574
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,520
I don't know if they're saying 
that. 

1575
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,920
I don't want to be unfair. 
I won't get nuts here. 

1576
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,840
I don't know people are saying 
or asking the question, does 

1577
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,840
Dexter Lawrence love football? 
But based on his massive drop in

1578
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,720
production, based on the optics,
you know, a little bit out of 

1579
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,920
shape. 
Well, Carl Banks said others who

1580
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,840
know the game, what they've 
weighed in with, you know, 

1581
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:27,720
there's A at least some noise 
around him that maybe, you know,

1582
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,600
if there's ever a time to part 
with him, this would be the 

1583
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,720
time. 
And I do think on some level 

1584
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,360
that they won't say this, nor 
should they. 

1585
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,960
But it's it's got a it's got to 
connect somehow with Jackson 

1586
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,880
Jackson Doors trajectory. 
Again, if this is an aging Tom 

1587
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,720
Brady or I know Mahomes got 
hurt, but Mahomes coming back 

1588
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,360
now or you know, even a Joe 
Burrow's been around a couple 

1589
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,080
years, guys like that. 
You do whatever you need, 

1590
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,920
whatever you need to do, and you
bite the financial bullet and 

1591
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,880
you take it on the chin down the
road and you go through that 345

1592
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,760
win season, which is misery and 
treacherous for any 

1593
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,600
organization. 
But you do it because you've got

1594
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,680
a little finite window to win 
with the quarterback that you 

1595
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,280
have. 
Jackson Dart, is he just he just

1596
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,080
stepped into the baby part of 
the pool. 

1597
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,080
Now eventually, I think he's 
doing flips off the diving board

1598
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,160
and he's he's one of the studs 
in the deep end of the pool, but

1599
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,680
not yet. 
So it's a different calculus for

1600
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,360
the Giants. 
At least that's how I say it. 

1601
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,640
You know, let me get D Rod 123. 
Why can't Lawrence honor his 

1602
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,720
contract? 
It's not the team's fault that 

1603
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,960
he signed it. 
That's on the agent, Yeah. 

1604
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,920
I mean, listen, D Rod, I, I hear
you. 

1605
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,840
I, I hear you. 
But it's the way the NFLI mean 

1606
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,400
you. 
I could also ask you, and I've 

1607
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,520
asked this out loud, written, 
you know, many times, like, why 

1608
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,200
can't the NF LS finances be a 
little bit more fair to the 

1609
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,400
players #1 it's incredibly 
nebulous. 

1610
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,120
So none of the fans even 
understand. 

1611
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:50,840
Think about, we were talking 
about this last week, how many 

1612
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,400
teams? 
I remember looking at the list. 

1613
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,280
And I'm not talking about 
affected cap space, just sheer 

1614
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,360
cap space. 
And the the difference effective

1615
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,600
is obviously the guys you draft 
and all the other free agent 

1616
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,280
move. 
So effective is different. 

1617
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,640
But I'm talking about just pure 
bottom line cap space. 

1618
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:09,120
You see it in seasons over. 
Oh, this teams got $139 million 

1619
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,200
in cap space. 
OK, they could spend like 

1620
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,360
drunken sailors or conversely, 
oh, man, this team like the 

1621
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,560
Browns or who else is in 
financial? 

1622
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,240
The Cardinals, I think, right? 
Couple of teams are in the 

1623
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,320
negative. 
Oh, my God, this team's minus 

1624
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,960
$12 million in the salary cap. 
Are they going to be able to 

1625
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,320
field the team next year? 
Yeah, it's called stupid NFL 

1626
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,760
money. 
So all you do is restructure or 

1627
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,240
cut and do all these other 
things and voila, here's the 

1628
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,600
magic wand. 
We go from -12 million to an 

1629
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:41,720
abundance, a surplus of $37 
million or $42 million. 

1630
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,600
So the money thanks in the NFL, 
all right, It's confusing as 

1631
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,600
hell. 
It's a real disservice to the 

1632
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,080
fans and it's really it's a 
disservice to the players 

1633
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:57,400
because when you sign contracts,
right, they are, they are they 

1634
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,840
become antiquated very fast. 
Now you're literally not wrong. 

1635
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,520
You did sign the contract. 
You did sign the contract. 

1636
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,200
Now I'll give you an example and
it's totally different. 

1637
01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:10,760
But take a contract I signed a 
few over the years with with 13 

1638
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,880
years with CBS Sports radio and 
WFAN. 

1639
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,800
So when I signed those 
contracts, right, and they were 

1640
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,160
always, you know, depending on 
the on on when I signed them, 

1641
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,080
variance in length. 
All right, but when I signed 

1642
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,200
them, it's not like I signed it 
and then all of a sudden the 

1643
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,800
radio business, it exploded and 
you know, it went in this 

1644
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,200
different direction where I'm 
like, wow, I'm woefully 

1645
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,320
underpaid here. 
I signed that XYZ and then eight

1646
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,640
months later, you know, the 
midday guy in Detroit signed for

1647
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,160
this much, you know, 17% more 
what? 

1648
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,720
I'm just throwing stuff out. 
It's not even really remotely 

1649
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,360
comparable. 
It it's, but you get the point. 

1650
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,200
I I do understand the core push 
back. 

1651
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,920
Yo, you signed the contract. 
You should have negotiated a 

1652
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,320
better one. 
But the contracts changed so 

1653
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,320
fast. 
Think about it. 

1654
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,720
At one point, Eli Manning was 
the highest paid quarterback in 

1655
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,360
the NFL was eating. 
I'm not going down the Eli 

1656
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,960
rabbit hole of Hall of Fame. 
Now I get into that. 

1657
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:14,240
Now we'll start trouble. 
But was Eli ever remotely the 

1658
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,200
best quarterback in the NFL? 
The answer is with all the 

1659
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,880
respect, and I love him. 
A resounding, not even close. 

1660
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,800
We we know that because we watch
football, all right, It's timing

1661
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,440
and the timing changes fast. 
And and also the other thing 

1662
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:32,640
too, is as the salary caps 
escalate in the manner in which 

1663
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,280
they are like the percentage 
uptick is just through the roof 

1664
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,120
here every year, you know, you 
getting an extra 30, forty, $50 

1665
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,080
million. 
So is that thing a boom, boom, 

1666
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,960
boom spreads out more. 
Well, now it reflects 

1667
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,520
differently. 
What you did sign, even though 

1668
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,880
you willingly put your name on 
the contract, nobody stuck a a 

1669
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,600
weapon, a bat to your head and 
said, if you don't sign it, you 

1670
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,480
know, I'm going to take you 
outside the bottom Bing and take

1671
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:57,400
out your kneecaps like you. 
You don't you don't have to sign

1672
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,160
it. 
You could have fought for more. 

1673
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,320
You elected not to, but you've 
got to be fair to the NFL 

1674
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,520
players, which I always am, 
because I think these contracts 

1675
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,880
are ridiculous. 
So it's a lot of everything with

1676
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:12,080
Dexter Lawrence, You know, I 
just don't think that the 

1677
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,680
ability for this, this is really
why while I would entertain 

1678
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,880
moving on from him, why I think 
he eventually does stay is that 

1679
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,760
I think the window shut unless 
he's amazing this year for the 

1680
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,280
Giants to get back what The Jets
got back and the Cowboys got 

1681
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,640
back and what the Raiders were 
about to get back before that 

1682
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,880
was obviously rescinded with the
with the Raiders with Max 

1683
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,000
Crosby. 
So there's some stuff on that. 

1684
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,920
All right, One other thing I saw
about the draft here. 

1685
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,560
How many days away are we from 
the draft? 

1686
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,240
I think we're in the teens, 18. 
How many days? 

1687
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,360
17, Let me see. 
I think there was 20 days on 

1688
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,160
Friday. 
How many days, Jay, can you help

1689
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,800
me out with that? 
17 days to the NFL Draft. 

1690
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,800
We are 23rd. 
Yep, 16 days. 

1691
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,400
Even better, let's go. 16 days. 
Yeah. 

1692
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:05,680
And I think that they condensed 
the amount of time in between 

1693
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:10,160
each pick, you know, before we 
had to look that big Jingle. 

1694
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:13,480
That's the worst sitting there 
and just listen to guys Babble. 

1695
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:16,280
I know they're, they're good at 
their job, but all, all the 

1696
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,480
catch phrases, you know, I've, 
I've kind of had fun with this 

1697
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:20,400
over the years. 
Oh, this guy's got quick hips. 

1698
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,480
And look at how he swivels his 
hips and look at how he goes up 

1699
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:25,280
for the ball. 
The look at the, look at the 

1700
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,440
catch radius. 
It's just, it's paralyzing 

1701
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:30,240
mentally. 
So the quicker we get to the 

1702
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,600
picks, the better. 
Anyway, there's 16 days to the 

1703
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,160
draft now. 
Peter Schrager, who I think is 

1704
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,720
great, he was on good day or 
good morning football for a long

1705
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,640
time. 
New York guy, don't know him. 

1706
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,240
I think I met him once or twice.
Good dude, good at his job, 

1707
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,040
right? 
I like, I, I think he's very 

1708
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,640
well connected and he's very 
good at his job. 

1709
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,560
So he puts out two mocks, like 
Hyper's putting mocks out. 

1710
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,320
You know, I think he's got a 
mock out maybe for next year. 

1711
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:55,960
I mean, or like maybe a skeleton
draft. 

1712
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,560
Maybe he's already identified 
the best quarterbacks, that's 

1713
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,480
for sure. 
So Kuiper's different than than 

1714
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:02,160
Schrager. 
Schrager's reporting on the 

1715
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,760
day-to-day business of the NFL 
doing what he does from a 

1716
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:09,120
content point of view, but he 
also does do a mock now and 

1717
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:10,840
then. 
I believe he does one either the

1718
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,120
day before or the week before 
the week of the NFL draft. 

1719
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,240
Only two and his last his and I 
think it dropped yesterday. 

1720
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,560
I'm pretty sure I was traveling.
So, you know, that's it. 

1721
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,000
I can't stand travel. 
Although TSA was amazing over 

1722
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,720
the weekend, like we got to to 
Newark on Saturday. 

1723
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,080
Now I, we have the clear as 
well. 

1724
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,080
It was quick, dude. 
It was a mate. 

1725
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:37,200
Like we right through the clear,
you know, mate, look, I, we, we 

1726
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,360
were first people that clear 
like we walked right up to 

1727
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,040
clear. 
Do you have that stuff? 

1728
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,760
You have the TSA pre-check or 
the clear? 

1729
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,520
It's life changing. 
I I mean, I remember I got it 

1730
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,640
last time I flew. 
It's been a while since like 

1731
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,760
I've I've actually flown or like
done any serious. 

1732
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,400
Travel, it's a massive it's a 
massive difference. 

1733
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,480
So we speed through the clear as
you always do, and then, you 

1734
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:58,280
know, when you do the clear, 
they come and take you and they 

1735
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,480
you cut everybody like suck is, 
you know, you cut, you cut a 

1736
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:04,240
long line and then you go 
through the security didn't have

1737
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:05,800
to take the shoes off Boom, 
boom, boom. 

1738
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,480
Very fast there maybe 10 minutes
Max. 

1739
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,840
All all four of us with that, 
with that whole process and then

1740
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,280
even getting to the gate. 
I mean, we got on immediately. 

1741
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,280
So it was, it was awesome. 
Now now coming back was a little

1742
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,400
different. 
Daddy usually comes back solo 

1743
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,360
because I'm, yeah, I got to get 
back to work. 

1744
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,160
Whatever. 
Kids have spring breaks, so they

1745
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,480
get a chance to spend some more 
time with your grandparents out 

1746
01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:31,360
in Texas, which is great. 
I got now I originally had, I 

1747
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,200
don't book the flights. 
I let my wife book them. 

1748
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:37,720
She booked me A and she didn't 
know I and this you know what, I

1749
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,200
got to take the L on this a 
little bit. 

1750
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,880
This is kind of my fault. 
This falls under the file of me 

1751
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,040
really just not listening 
sometimes, like I, I admit it. 

1752
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:50,680
She's like, she comes to me and 
she says, hey, you know, what 

1753
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,560
about flying out at this time? 
Because there's always got to 

1754
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,560
work around a game before we go 
out there for Easter as we do 

1755
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,200
every year. 
And then coming back. 

1756
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,480
She knows I'm going to come back
early. 

1757
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:02,240
Kids will come back early or 
later and then obviously they've

1758
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,440
got to make sure that they're 
back for the games the next week

1759
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,480
either way. 
And she's great with that, 

1760
01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:08,360
right? 
So evidently she asked me, you 

1761
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,600
know, at this time. 
And I think it was like a couple

1762
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,120
100 bucks cheaper. 
I'm like, yeah, that's fine, 

1763
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,440
that's fine. 
So, but again, I wasn't really 

1764
01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:17,120
listening. 
I'll get to the Peter Schrager 

1765
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,320
thing in a minute. 
And so I wake up on maybe even 

1766
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,320
Sunday night. 
I'm like, hey, babe, what time 

1767
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,600
is, what time is my flight 
tomorrow? 

1768
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,640
She's like 5:13 PM. 
I'm like 5:13 PM, I'm like, why 

1769
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,000
so late? 
And she said, well, you said 

1770
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,920
that was fine. 
I'm like 515. 

1771
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,360
So now that mean it's an hour 
difference. 

1772
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:46,920
So 5:15 if you're on time, 
615715815835IN terms of actual 

1773
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,640
airtime, tack on the hour when 
you get back to New York, 935 by

1774
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,800
the time I get my bag, by the 
time I get in the Uber or the 

1775
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,480
car service, like it's 1020. 
Who won the national 

1776
01:25:56,480 --> 01:25:57,760
championship game? 
I don't know. 

1777
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,080
It's probably going to be a good
chance. 

1778
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,520
I don't get to watch any of it. 
Not not not to mention I got to 

1779
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,840
get ready for the show. 
So I'll take the L on that. 

1780
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,200
I I will take the L, but how 
about that? 

1781
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:11,080
So, so so she did call. 
I'm like, can you do see if you 

1782
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,160
could change anything? 
Yeah, because she called and she

1783
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,320
was able to change it. 
I had to pay a little bit of 

1784
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,920
money. 
Whatever, dude, I got nestled in

1785
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,720
between, let's just say, and I'm
she never gets me middle seats 

1786
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,360
because she knows I can't stand 
the middle seat. 

1787
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,560
But this, to change the flight, 
you got to do what you got to do

1788
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,160
instead. 
I got on at 1:30 and I got home 

1789
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,560
at like 6 and it was perfect. 
I was, I don't want to be 

1790
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,120
disrespectful to anybody, just I
would do it. 

1791
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,800
I was like this on both sides, 
bro. 

1792
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,200
I was the last row right near 
the bathroom, right? 

1793
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,640
And so which meant my seat 
didn't go all the way back and I

1794
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,120
was like this. 
I felt like I was setting a pic 

1795
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:49,360
literally I was I was trying to 
free somebody coming off the 

1796
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,800
screen for a three-point shot 
like this. 

1797
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,760
I'm not going to leave it at. 
That dude was like Ernie 

1798
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,840
Johnson. 
He was in between Chuck and. 

1799
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,200
Chuck and Chuck, yeah, a little 
bit. 

1800
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,560
I was pinched in there. 
At least those guys having fun 

1801
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,080
on the show. 
I mean, I definitely was not 

1802
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,760
having fun with that nonsense. 
What do we got here? 

1803
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:06,840
James? 
Back to Jimmy here. 

1804
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,200
BT just want to say appreciate 
you. 

1805
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,800
Your show's a great escape. 
Looks like some dark shit's 

1806
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,800
about to pop off tonight. 
Just wanted to say thanks. 

1807
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,720
Yeah, we are definitely keeping 
an eye on that, obviously. 

1808
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,640
And James is talking about Iran 
and we'll see what happens 

1809
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,040
there. 
We'll see if, you know, if the 

1810
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,040
if there's an extension of, of, 
of terms from President Trump, 

1811
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,440
We'll see. 
But that's what this stuff is. 

1812
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:31,520
It's an escape, you know, I try 
not to take myself very 

1813
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:32,640
seriously. 
I try to take the show 

1814
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,560
seriously. 
I do because this is my 

1815
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,040
livelihood. 
This is my business. 

1816
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,560
This is my profession 
profession. 

1817
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,680
This is my new platform. 
This is my outlet. 

1818
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,040
But listen, I, I, I've talked 
many times about, you know, how 

1819
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,000
I view this. 
And this is to let it RIP and to

1820
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,280
be authentic and to be me and to
have fun and and to talk talk 

1821
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:55,720
sports and to really be as much 
of A deviation from a lot of the

1822
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:59,120
real world issues that are much 
more important than, let's face 

1823
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,400
it, whether or not Dexter 
Lawrence is traded from the 

1824
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,040
giants. 
At the end of the day, I get it.

1825
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,200
And I'm not obtuse to this. 
I I watch the news every night. 

1826
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,200
You know, hopefully you guys 
watch the, the the two hour 

1827
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:14,400
conversation with Stephen A, 
which did fantastic on on. 

1828
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,320
We had him last. 
I think we had him on Wednesday,

1829
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,320
right? 
Was that Wednesday, Thursday, 

1830
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,920
Wednesday? 
It was awesome. 

1831
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,240
We got into some of that stuff 
there. 

1832
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:25,080
Not so much politics, but his 
political aspirations a little 

1833
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,360
bit. 
But it was just a real 

1834
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,560
wide-ranging conversation. 
And I really don't get into, not

1835
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:34,200
because I can't I, I could. 
I just know that you guys don't 

1836
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,920
want to. 
It's not why you listen to me, 

1837
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,840
you know. 
And it's funny too. 

1838
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,840
I've been on Fox a few times. 
I went on with Brian Kilmeade. 

1839
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,680
I guess it was about a month and
1/2 or so ago. 

1840
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,800
He was doing this big piece on 
youth sports, all right. 

1841
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,800
And I don't know Brian, I don't 
know, I've never met him. 

1842
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,240
Maybe I met him, maybe I did 
meet him once, but I don't have 

1843
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,520
a relationship with him. 
They reached out and they were 

1844
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,200
doing a thing on, you know, how 
economics and how the pressures 

1845
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,320
and the shifting of youth sports
is really ruining youth sports. 

1846
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,680
And you know, they knew, they 
know I do a lot of coaching. 

1847
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,680
They know I played and they know
I do this for a living. 

1848
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,840
So anyway, they invited me on 
the show, right? 

1849
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,560
And I was on with a University 
of Florida professor who was 

1850
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,600
talking about the shifting 
economics and some other stuff. 

1851
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:17,720
And I brought a different 
perspective. 

1852
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,200
And when I posted that on this 
YouTube channel, don't you think

1853
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,040
I got a lot of, dude, you going 
on Fox? 

1854
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,120
What are you doing? 
You know what? 

1855
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,560
Yeah. 
You got a lot of that. 

1856
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,880
Sure. 
And then I've been on with my 

1857
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,040
buddy Jimmy Faylor, who I have 
become friends with, who is 

1858
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,720
funny. 
He uses comedy to, to take jabs 

1859
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,520
at, at, at everybody in 
politics, right? 

1860
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,000
And he's on Fox. 
So obviously there's a political

1861
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,560
leaning his way and a slant 
there, although I think he's 

1862
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,760
fair. 
And, and when I posted that 

1863
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,320
stuff, you get the same. 
So, oh, Jimmy Faley's on Fox 

1864
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,000
Radio, Fox News, What are you 
doing? 

1865
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,840
Hey, listen, you know, if I'm 
going to get a platform. 

1866
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,840
And by the way, when I was on 
with Jimmy was for the Super 

1867
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,960
Bowl and I basically nailed the 
final score and won everybody 

1868
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,520
money. 
I mean, I missed the final score

1869
01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:00,440
by two points and I nailed the 
spread #1 #2 the second time I 

1870
01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:02,640
went on was about St. 
John's in the going to the Sweet

1871
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,480
16 game. 
And you know, I, I do read a lot

1872
01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:08,880
of comments here and I do 
respond to a bunch 'cause I want

1873
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,040
you guys to know I'm connected. 
I'm invested in this. 

1874
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,480
It's personal. 
It's not just me for my little 

1875
01:30:13,480 --> 01:30:16,240
ivory tower making millions. 
That's sure shit's not 

1876
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,360
happening, not even close, not 
even close. 

1877
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,080
But it's, it's my way of, of 
letting you know that I'm deeply

1878
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,760
invested and connected to you as
a viewer. 

1879
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,200
I can personalize this, but it's
like I did at the fan. 

1880
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,200
I responded to a lot of a lot of
text and a lot of tweets and 

1881
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,120
stuff. 
This is different though. 

1882
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,040
I respond to a lot more here. 
But one thing that I saw a lot 

1883
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,680
when I would post those videos, 
oh, you're going to offend half 

1884
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,360
your audience. 
Oh, you're going to go on that 

1885
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,640
Fox leans this way. 
But do you not think that I know

1886
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,200
which way Fox leans? 
Do you not think I know which 

1887
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:48,160
way the view leans or which way 
CNN or Cuomo in his previous 

1888
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,240
outlet or now? 
Like, do you think I don't know 

1889
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,720
this? 
I mean, I am very much in tune 

1890
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:54,240
with everything going on in the 
world. 

1891
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,840
The difference is when somebody 
you might despise, you might 

1892
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,680
abhor Fox, you might abhor CNN, 
depending upon which which way 

1893
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,720
you go. 
If I've got a platform to share 

1894
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,840
something about youth sports 
that I think is going to make, 

1895
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,360
even if it helps one kid or one 
family, you think that I'm not 

1896
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,640
going to take that opportunity 
that that platform to utilize 

1897
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,400
that. 
Why would I not do that? 

1898
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,680
You know, So, you know, I know 
when you talk about this stuff, 

1899
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,400
it's polarizing, which is why I 
stay away from it for the most 

1900
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,800
part on the air. 
But understand, you know, if 

1901
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,960
somebody asked me to come out 
and talk about something, I'm 

1902
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,080
not talking about economic 
policy or ICE or any any things 

1903
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,680
that I'm probably not really, 
even though I know a little bit 

1904
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,200
not really truly qualified to 
speak on, if I have that window 

1905
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,720
to do it, I'm going to do it. 
So if you guys have a problem 

1906
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,000
with that, you need to get over 
yourself. 

1907
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,360
Because if you actually watch 
and listen to what I say and 

1908
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,280
actually look at the content 
that's being talked about, then 

1909
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,560
I would think that you would 
have a different opinion #1 and 

1910
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,560
#2 Like I also said, hey, if CNN
would have invited me to go on, 

1911
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,440
absolutely would have accepted 
100%. 

1912
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,200
And if they invite me to come 
out and talk about youth sports 

1913
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,560
or so or the NCAA, you know how 
it's, I don't think as I started

1914
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,320
the show after I talked about 
the championship game, I don't 

1915
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,120
think it's economically feasible
to keep this, this sort of 

1916
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,440
model, business model. 
Then I'll go on CNN 100%. 

1917
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,000
So people just need to 
understand that, Jay. 

1918
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,480
But people don't. 
People sadly are so triggered, 

1919
01:32:19,480 --> 01:32:24,360
which I understand to an extent,
but are so triggered by a logo 

1920
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,800
for a network that you know they
they almost can't grasp the 

1921
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,280
content that's being talked 
about because they don't even 

1922
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,160
care. 
Their mind is shut off to. 

1923
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,000
Them, yeah, no, I mean, 'cause 
they, that's The thing is like 

1924
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,600
they don't even like, you know, 
I watch the conversations you 

1925
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,040
have like, they're not even 
really political at all. 

1926
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,360
Like really, they don't feel 
like that at all. 

1927
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,800
They're, you know, so it's just 
like you said, like you see an 

1928
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,400
image and you just immediately 
go for your quick assumption 

1929
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:53,000
when like it's probably just not
true in terms of like the actual

1930
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,360
content. 
Correct 100%. 

1931
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,280
All right, let me pay off that 
Peter Schrager thing. 

1932
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,400
I'm going to get to that in a 
minute there. 

1933
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,600
Let me, I'll read that in a 
moment. 

1934
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,720
So anyway, Schrager put out his 
second or his first draft here 

1935
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,400
and for the first time, I mean, 
all you see is Reese from Ohio 

1936
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,440
State. 
It's I don't care what mock you 

1937
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:12,080
look at Reese too. 
It's Mendoza 1 Reese too, man, 

1938
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,960
those are 10. 
Here's a here's a mantra. 

1939
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,080
Oh, Mendoza 1 Reese too. 
Oh, we got another mantra. 

1940
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,560
Mendoza 1 Reese 2, Reese 2. 
Reese 2, Reese 2. 

1941
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,600
Now, I like Reese. 
I think he's an incredible 

1942
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,320
athlete with incredible upside. 
I'm not married to The Jets. 

1943
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,840
Taking him at #2 Now, I also 
don't think that there's going 

1944
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,880
to be a lot of movement or 
possible traction for a team to 

1945
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,640
jump up and trade with The Jets,
which is something that I 

1946
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,920
espoused early last week that I 
would be open to. 

1947
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,720
Because while I like Reese and 
I'm intrigued by Reese, he's not

1948
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,760
enough of a sure thing for me. 
Watching wind up being like 

1949
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,640
Lawrence Standard or Micah 
Parsons. 

1950
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,800
And of course, I'll be wrong 
with this. 

1951
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:51,320
But right now, my opinion is I 
really do like him, and if The 

1952
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,240
Jets take him to #2 I'll be fine
with it. 

1953
01:33:53,480 --> 01:33:55,280
But I'm just trying to 
incorporate another thought that

1954
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,160
I think is logical. 
And Schrager had Bailey going at

1955
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,000
#2 to The Jets. 
Now, Bailey, you don't need 

1956
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,280
Schrager to tell you this 
because everybody knows this. 

1957
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,400
If you watch college football, 
Bailey is the more polished 

1958
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,040
prospect right now. 
He's been an edge rusher for 

1959
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,160
years. 
He had 14 1/2 sacks. 

1960
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,760
He's been on the edge with his 
hand on the ground for years 

1961
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,680
facing double teams, getting his
numbers now. 

1962
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,480
People also think that there's 
some ridiculously alarming drop 

1963
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:26,200
in athleticism. 
Like like Bailey ran a 4860 man 

1964
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,120
ran a 4-5 dude. 
Bailey from Texas Tech ran a 

1965
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,440
4-5. 
So the different now Reese was 

1966
01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:35,600
quicker as word, you know, 
Styles and some others too. 

1967
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,920
But it's not this massive drop 
in athleticism. 

1968
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:43,000
It's it's slightly discernible. 
It is a real thing in terms of a

1969
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,160
slight drop off. 
But it's not enough for me not 

1970
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,080
to take him. 
I don't love Bailey too either. 

1971
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,800
I you know, when I saw Schrager,
I'm like, would that excite me? 

1972
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:52,520
I almost think I'd rather have 
Reese. 

1973
01:34:52,520 --> 01:35:00,520
I don't, I don't, I don't. 
My gut now is that my gut now is

1974
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:05,320
that Bailey's one-dimensional 
and he'll be good at that one 

1975
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,800
dimension, but I don't know that
he'll be transcendent at that 

1976
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,640
one dimension. 
And if you're A1 dimensional 

1977
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,880
player and good at your job, is 
that enough to justify a second 

1978
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,920
overall pick? 
Like if you're if you're getting

1979
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,480
taken, you know, 9th or 12th or 
15th, that's fine. 

1980
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,320
You do greater one thing like 
you're a you're a corner and 

1981
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,840
you're OK in coverage, but 
you're a lights out tackler. 

1982
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,280
You can help out in the box a 
little bit. 

1983
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,120
All right, I mean, not ideal if 
I'm taking a corner at number, 

1984
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,000
you know, 23456 something like 
that. 

1985
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,320
Or, you know, you're a you're a 
linebacker, outside linebacker 

1986
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,360
and you're a sure handed short 
tacklers we've ever seen. 

1987
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,440
But you know, when you're 
dropping back in coverage, 

1988
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:44,360
trying to hang with a tight end 
who's got a 1/10 of a second or 

1989
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,600
two quicker than you because you
didn't run to grade 40 either at

1990
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,480
the combine or at your pro date,
your school all right now, not 

1991
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:53,480
optimal. 
I, I like, I'd like Bailey. 

1992
01:35:53,480 --> 01:35:57,400
I do and I like Reese. 
I really believe I love the 

1993
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,640
prospects of The Jets being open
for business. 

1994
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:03,840
So this is not really an in 
depth commentary on Bailey, the 

1995
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,560
player or even Reese at this 
point. 

1996
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,480
It's about this to me, gives a 
little oxygen to The Jets 

1997
01:36:09,480 --> 01:36:15,240
possibly being open to trading 
#2 because maybe another team 

1998
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,800
loves Bailey or maybe another 
team loves Reese. 

1999
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,960
I don't know. 
I know you need 2 to dance. 

2000
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,000
That goes without saying. 
Jets could be help. 

2001
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,840
Muji could be hell bent on 
making a trade. 

2002
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,080
If you don't have a willing 
trading partner, you're not 

2003
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,840
making a trade. 
It sounds good. 

2004
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,680
Trade up, trade back. 
You need somebody to satisfy 

2005
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,680
your demands, like you got with 
Sauce and like you got with Qi. 

2006
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:37,600
Don't know that that's going to 
happen here. 

2007
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,400
I just hope and I think, I 
think, I don't know, I think, 

2008
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,160
but I definitely hope that he is
more than amenable to being open

2009
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,080
for business at #2 as well. 
Because to me, there's not much 

2010
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,440
of a difference. 
Matter of fact, I would almost 

2011
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:52,720
rather have. 
I know Caleb Downs has slipped a

2012
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:56,360
little bit in the boards for 
some reason, but I would now. 

2013
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,320
They don't need an offensive 
lineman and there's 2 old 

2014
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,400
lineman. 
Actually, I think Schrager had 

2015
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,840
the Giants taking an old 
lineman. 

2016
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,400
There's 2 who are going to go in
the top 10, but you can't tell 

2017
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,120
me now. 
You can tell me in three years 

2018
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,440
when we've got some evidence, 
NFL tape to look at and say, 

2019
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,400
yeah, we were right, we were 
wrong, kind of right, Kind of 

2020
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,640
roll a little bit in between, 
kind of hit it kind of didn't. 

2021
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,920
Whatever went to the wrong team 
got hurt. 

2022
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,360
Now it doesn't. 
Love football. 

2023
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,400
Sloppy, lazy, but you know, 
didn't get strong enough, didn't

2024
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,440
get a second move pushed around.
Predictable. 

2025
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,400
There's a lot of analysis coming
once they play in the NFL. 

2026
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:32,080
But like, right now, to me, if 
it's Bailey, if it's Reese, all 

2027
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,080
right, I mean, I'm not doing 
somersaults and flips with the 

2028
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,720
pic and I'm not going to pound 
the table and say they messed it

2029
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,440
up. 
But really, I am still married 

2030
01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:43,800
to the notion of The Jets 
trading out, at least trying to.

2031
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,560
That's where I am with that. 
But I thought it was 

2032
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,040
interesting. 
Schrager's real good with that 

2033
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:51,040
stuff historically does well 
with this mocks and for him to 

2034
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,480
have somebody other than Reese 
and he doesn't do it just to 

2035
01:37:54,480 --> 01:37:57,360
differentiate himself. 
Like he believes that because 

2036
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:01,840
he's he's an information person.
So we'll see super game children

2037
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,520
Bros 6643 what's happening? 
Thank you for that. 

2038
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,960
Appreciate it, buddy. 
On a lighter note, the jet strap

2039
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,720
party is being moved from Jersey
to the seaport in the city. 

2040
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,960
I didn't even know that. 
Do you think you'll show up 

2041
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,680
there and have some fun with us?
Who are going to go? 

2042
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,680
Let me know. 
The boys and I are going to be 

2043
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,920
there. 
I, I do not think I'll be at The

2044
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,080
Jets draft party #1 there's a 
really good chance of doing 

2045
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,600
stuff that night either at a 
draft party. 

2046
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,840
And again, not, not all the dyes
are are, are not all the I's are

2047
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,760
dotted, not all the T's across. 
It's business. 

2048
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,680
This thing trickles in. 
There's a few opportunities to 

2049
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:38,160
either do content here with a 
live watch or to be at a place 

2050
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,760
that I can't divulge to do a 
live watch party myself. 

2051
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,240
And at this point, you know, 
I'm, I'm looking at all 

2052
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,400
opportunities. 
Number one, it's obviously fun, 

2053
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:52,240
but doing business here. 
So, you know, I've, I've been to

2054
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,600
a lot of drafts, I've been to a 
lot of draft parties, but I, I 

2055
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,160
think there's a real opportunity
where we'll be able to monetize 

2056
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,160
that. 
So that would be a real good 

2057
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:01,760
thing. 
J Rod, have you been to? 

2058
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,640
Have you ever been to a draft 
party? 

2059
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,160
Never. 
Never. 

2060
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,920
No, I mean I listen to the NFL 
draft, to an NFL draft. 

2061
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,840
Party I know you went to the NBA
Draft 1. 

2062
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:15,240
Yeah, I mean, just watching it 
at home with the TV really. 

2063
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,760
I don't think I've, I, I 
honestly don't even think I've 

2064
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,560
ever gotten together with 
anybody to watch a draft. 

2065
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,600
Really. 
Yeah, no, OK. 

2066
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:28,200
Yeah, it's funny, those things I
I really don't know as I say 

2067
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,560
that like really like, like I do
it all the time. 

2068
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,960
I usually like to watch the 
draft and seclusion myself. 

2069
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,800
I I, I'm with you, just a lot 
going on, man. 

2070
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,960
I remember funny thing, you 
won't even remember. 

2071
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,880
This was when I was with ESPN. 
It was like the coolest thing at

2072
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,840
that point. 
ESPN, if you Google this at some

2073
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,120
point you you guys will see 
this. 

2074
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:53,640
ESPN 2005. 
If I had to throw a year on it, 

2075
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,080
it came out with an ESPN phone. 
You don't even know about that, 

2076
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:57,920
do you? 
No. 

2077
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,200
What? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2078
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,560
It was like a flip phone, right?
But it was cool. 

2079
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,800
I mean, the flip phones were, 
you know, you could text on it, 

2080
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,760
but it wasn't like that or 
Samsung, whatever. 

2081
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,440
Oh my God, you. 
See it? 

2082
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,560
This is so cool. 
Yes, there it is man. 

2083
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,000
What year was it? 
Was I right 2? 

2084
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,880
1006, yeah. 06 OK And never 
forget I was playing golf right 

2085
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,800
up at New York Country Club with
my buddy Dan and and Rob and 

2086
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,960
Maddie. 
I'll play golf tomorrow, by the 

2087
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:25,080
way. 
Let's go. 

2088
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,280
That'll be a nice. 
Day now I try watch what I try 

2089
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,960
to do today like this is this is
how I I try to squeeze it all in

2090
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,880
today. 
Now I'll be in the basement. 

2091
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,640
I'll be hitting these little 
wiffle balls, you know, gripping

2092
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,920
the club, getting in my own 
head, probably hit 16 feet off 

2093
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:39,880
the tee. 
Well, it's going to be a 

2094
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,600
disaster. 
But yeah, I'm playing my buddy 

2095
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,280
Rob. 
Oh, I have not seen in a while, 

2096
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,320
so I can't wait to see him. 
My buddy Frank, who I play with 

2097
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,360
quite a bit, that's why I am 
getting out tomorrow. 

2098
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,040
It's gonna be a little chilly, 
but it's gonna be sunny, so I'm 

2099
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,320
playing the ball. 
So anyway, so they, ESPN, never 

2100
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,520
forget. 
We each got like me, Kayla, 

2101
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:58,560
Greca, Stephen A, I'm sure Mike 
and Mike were up in Bristol. 

2102
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,040
They obviously, they probably 
got 10 each, you know, based on 

2103
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,000
how much they got back then, and
rightfully so. 

2104
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,040
It was a really good show. 
We each got the phone. 

2105
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,080
I never came in the package, 
Have my name on it. 

2106
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,320
I'm like, all right, here we go.
Starting to get some free shit 

2107
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,920
now. 
Yeah, it was big boys. 

2108
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,800
You got a ESPN phone? 
Yeah, they gave us one. 

2109
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:14,640
They gave each one. 
So cool. 

2110
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,160
And. 
It was like free service for a 

2111
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,360
year and I had my old phone and 
I used it a little bit. 

2112
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,800
I'd like to say it was like a 
burner phone or but no, I didn't

2113
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,280
really need one. 
But I do remember playing golf 

2114
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,600
at New York Country and the 
coolest feature on the phone, 

2115
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,480
this was during the NFL draft. 
To my point, this is like the 

2116
01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:35,040
only time I didn't watch the 
draft by myself. 

2117
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,040
I was playing golf and every 
time a pick was made, you know, 

2118
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,680
it would be on the green. 
You'd hear from the card. 

2119
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,480
No way. 
And it would it would it would 

2120
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:43,960
alert you. 
All right, the pick is in and 

2121
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,320
then you'd open up the phone and
and it was actually really 

2122
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,600
awesome. 
You know, I obviously knew every

2123
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:50,720
player. 
My boys were even then little 

2124
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,080
bit more into it than they are 
now. 

2125
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,800
That did not last well or that 
did not last long. 

2126
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,240
It was cool. 
It's good idea. 

2127
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,520
You know, do like a little like 
I'm just like they should do a 

2128
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,600
little like ode to it, like a 
little AD spot where they, I 

2129
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,920
don't know, poke fun at it. 
That is so funny, man. 

2130
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:13,320
Listen, you got to understand 
when you see stuff with the, 

2131
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:19,640
when you see stuff 1520 years 
later and it guys, it's it's, I 

2132
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,120
mean, I get it. 
I do it too. 

2133
01:42:21,480 --> 01:42:24,680
Like, it's hard to do. 
It's hard to look at stuff and 

2134
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,600
say, wow, this thing is sick, 
right? 

2135
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,440
I'll give you a good example. 
So my buddy Tommy, who got 

2136
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:35,360
married and had a child when he 
was young, like 20s, early 20s, 

2137
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,120
kids are grown. 
Awesome guy. 

2138
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,000
Really my first best friend. 
Couple of homes down the street.

2139
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,200
Great dude. 
Play in the street everyday. 

2140
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,800
Great families. 
Dad played golf with my dad. 

2141
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,560
I don't know how many times, but
his dad passed away. 

2142
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,080
Love his mom, love his brother K
rat. 

2143
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:57,400
Just a great family. 
And you know, like I remember. 

2144
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,120
Hold on one SEC. 
I remember. 

2145
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:00,040
Yep. 
Hang on. 

2146
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,920
No, that's not true. 
What? 

2147
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,400
No, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 
no, no. 

2148
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,960
No, OK, No. 
My buddy just texted me 

2149
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,600
something about the ESPN phone. 
There's no way. 

2150
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:13,000
There's no way. 
All right. 

2151
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,800
So anyway, so since he had, you 
know, children early and his 

2152
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,720
first son was a boy, when I had 
a son, he sent me all of these 

2153
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,240
bats that his son used along the
way. 

2154
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:25,600
And he played JUCO baseball. 
He was a very good player in New

2155
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:30,000
Jersey. 
His son Timmy, and one of the 

2156
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,720
bats he sent me was what was a 
bat that we used and if you're 

2157
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,680
old enough, the black magic 
Easton. 

2158
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,760
Yeah. 
The Easton black magic too. 

2159
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,680
You're way too young. 
That was like, you know, 

2160
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,120
whatever, 500 bats. 
I'm not just going to get free 

2161
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,600
plugs everywhere here, but 
there's a couple of really good 

2162
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,680
ones out there now that every 
player has that plays club ball,

2163
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,680
whatever, and they're 
ridiculously overpriced, but 

2164
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,360
they got a lot of juice. 
I'm talking about the Utrip 

2165
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,440
bats, USSSA, not the USA bats 
that you have to use in travel 

2166
01:43:56,440 --> 01:43:58,640
and rec. 
So anyway, he sends me like sent

2167
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,080
me a fungal bat that he used to 
coat that I used for my teams 

2168
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,160
early. 
Then it broke and a bunch of 

2169
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:08,200
bats, my son to train with and, 
you know, but they, they were so

2170
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,440
out of, you know, like you 
couldn't use it. 

2171
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,760
They didn't conform to the 
regulations, is my point. 

2172
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,280
And the other day I was working 
out my son, I hear him hitting 

2173
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,480
off the tee or something. 
Yeah. 

2174
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:20,400
No, he was, Yeah. 
He was hitting on doing 

2175
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,640
something in the basement. 
And he went, he found the black 

2176
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,600
magic that was kind of tucked 
away because there's no need to 

2177
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,040
use it. 
And he's like, Dad, he's like, 

2178
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:27,600
was this yours? 
I'm like, no, it was my buddy 

2179
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,880
Tommy, who I grew up with, who 
sent to me a bunch of bats when 

2180
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,120
you were born. 
He's like, look at this thing. 

2181
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:34,640
I'm like, dude, you have no 
idea. 

2182
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,520
That was like the Air Jordans 
when we were playing when we 

2183
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,400
were young. 
So it's so like when that ESPN 

2184
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,360
phone dropped, it was like sick,
man. 

2185
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:45,520
Even think about snow. 
Seriously, think about some of 

2186
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,880
the video games that that you 
love playing back in the day, 

2187
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,120
like even Mike Tysons punch out.
Like it seems so awesome. 

2188
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,880
All the different characters, 
all the different styles, like 

2189
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:58,280
the, you know, the guy with the 
shorts falling down, the, the, 

2190
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,680
the Swami, whatever he was, you 
know, the Don Flamenco with the 

2191
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,800
Rose, like they were all 
different characteristics. 

2192
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,200
Now you see that game, even 
though it's great, it's got a 

2193
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,280
great place in American lore, an
American gaming lore, and it's 

2194
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,160
renowned that it's, it's it's 
more or less it's like an icon. 

2195
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,600
But look at the graphics now 
you're like, man, you guys love 

2196
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:17,960
playing that. 
Yeah, we did, because we didn't 

2197
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,800
know anything else. 
So before iPhones, you know, the

2198
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,520
ESPN phone wasn't that bad of. 
A deal. 

2199
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:28,040
So my question is, was this the 
only phone that offered like 

2200
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:32,200
this kind of ability to watch 
these video highlights and 

2201
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:33,840
stuff? 
Like I don't remember the answer

2202
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,720
to I don't know. 
I took that my question. 

2203
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,720
I don't know. 
You know, the truth of the 

2204
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,880
matter is I don't even really 
remember them having video 

2205
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,000
capability, but I but it says it
did, right? 

2206
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:47,600
Yeah, like, I don't, I believe 
it said it could play videos. 

2207
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,400
I don't know if it had like the 
camera, like the old, like the 

2208
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,160
Blackberries kind of started 
doing down the line. 

2209
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,400
True, it did have a camera. 
No, it did have it had a camera.

2210
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,240
I remember taking pictures on 
the golf course. 

2211
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,560
Yeah, Yeah, I do. 
We can't find any of the I mean,

2212
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,840
I'm sure you don't have the 
phone any. 

2213
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,240
Of the man I'm. 
Sure, those pics would be 

2214
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,560
awesome. 
Yeah, or incriminating. 

2215
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:10,040
Get a picture on the golf 
course, boys. 

2216
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,240
Yeah, Hey, I'd be happy with 
either Downs or Styles for the 

2217
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:14,560
Giants. 
Leaning towards Styles. 

2218
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,040
Listen, I've talked about this a
lot. 

2219
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:19,240
We'll do more and more and more 
draft stuff as we get closer. 16

2220
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,920
days away. 
I always was open to the idea of

2221
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:26,720
giants going online at 5 now I I
know horrible loves his 

2222
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:28,560
safeties. 
So Caleb Downs, you know, 

2223
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,600
certainly something I've been 
saying for a couple of months 

2224
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,960
now, really since he was hired 
and and and Harbaugh said it 

2225
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,040
with Mike Francesa. 
He was on Mike's podcast and he 

2226
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,880
was talking about Caleb down. 
So that's not exactly breaking 

2227
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,640
news Schrager had online. 
I think it makes sense. 

2228
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,040
There's certain ways you have to
build. 

2229
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,240
If your future is is your 
quarterback, and we all think 

2230
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,880
most of us think that it is 
Jackson Dort, you better make 

2231
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,480
sure you've got a kick asshole 
line around them. 

2232
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:52,160
It's better. 
It's becoming a little 

2233
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,560
serviceable, but it's still not 
an ultimate strength. 

2234
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,840
You know, like Jackson Dort with
The Jets online will be a lot 

2235
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,000
better than the Jackson Dort 
with the giants online. 

2236
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,360
Now The Jets, you know, I mean, 
obviously other things can go 

2237
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,960
wrong, like coaching, but you 
guys know what I mean. 

2238
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:09,160
So I think the Giants go in one 
of three directions there, and I

2239
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,160
think it's going to be a blast. 
I think that outside of Mendoza,

2240
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,920
you know, I don't know what the 
Hell's going to happen, but the 

2241
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:16,720
Ohio State's going to be well 
represented. 

2242
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:20,720
I think the wide receiver market
is a little bit overstated. 

2243
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,520
Everyone's like, oh, it's an 
amazing wide receiver crop. 

2244
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,280
Just because there's four or 
five guys that, you know, that 

2245
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,600
played at big schools and that 
probably will go in the first 

2246
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,400
round ish, doesn't mean that 
they're absolutely no doubters. 

2247
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,920
Like, you know, one guy's a 
little small, one guy's had a 

2248
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:36,680
hamstring issue. 
Like there's a little bit of 

2249
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,440
baggage, almost baggage is the 
wrong word, but there's a little

2250
01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:42,080
bit of an impediment in the 
evaluation, I think of each 

2251
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:47,000
player to an extent where you're
like, is he really worthy of 

2252
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,440
being number 9 or whatever it 
might be? 

2253
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,600
So these are all things we'll 
flush through. 

2254
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,640
We're getting there. 
You know, the Soto hamstring, we

2255
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:58,280
did that in three, burning the 
the calf, we did that in three. 

2256
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:02,320
Burning questions to me really 
opens up a window for Jazz for 

2257
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,000
I'm jumping all over the place. 
I want to get the Jazz before I 

2258
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,880
get out of here real quick. 
For Francisco Alvarez to assert 

2259
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:10,640
himself. 
He's looked very good this year.

2260
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,880
The Mets are going to need them.
Lindor has been hurt. 

2261
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:16,360
Lindor's been quiet, but she has
been quiet. 

2262
01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:17,760
You have to think that's going 
to change. 

2263
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,680
It should. 
And then, you know, those guys 

2264
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,920
are going to have to hit for the
Mets to maximize their offense 

2265
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,520
and become whatever version of 
their best version they're going

2266
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,520
to become when Soto eventually 
returns. 

2267
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,760
But that bottom third, you have 
to talk about the Yankees bottom

2268
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,000
third, which I don't like at 
all. 

2269
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,520
The Mets bottom third is better 
than the Yankees. 

2270
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:39,480
But a return to form based on 
what we thought Alvarez could be

2271
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,520
and the early signs are there, 
be a great thing for Alvarez. 

2272
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:43,960
So I want to see how he keeps 
going. 

2273
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:48,360
And then listen, just the final 
thing on Jazz, you know, if I'm 

2274
01:48:48,440 --> 01:48:51,120
and I know Boone doesn't operate
this way, I would have benched 

2275
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:52,200
him. 
I would have benched him over 

2276
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:53,160
the weekend. 
That nonsense. 

2277
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,720
He pulled at second base, not 
knowing, not even not knowing 

2278
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,320
how many outs there were, just 
not knowing the speed or of the 

2279
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,080
runner or or showing any 
urgency. 

2280
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,920
How the hell do you let that 
you're going to see on one hand,

2281
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,760
I think on one hand. 
And by the way, Jazz might be on

2282
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,480
one of the fingers again. 
How many times this year do you 

2283
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:12,800
think we'll see a Major League 
second baseman loaf after a 

2284
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,080
ball, right? 
Have plenty of time to. 

2285
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:16,800
I don't mean where he died and 
has to get up. 

2286
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,640
And because that's not loafing 
fairly, root a little bit to 

2287
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:20,720
your right, little bit up the 
middle. 

2288
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:21,880
But he was already pinched up 
the middle. 

2289
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,160
It's not like you had to move 
that much where you make the 

2290
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,080
play and he just lackadaisically
take your time. 

2291
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:28,880
And the guy's busted ass down 
the line. 

2292
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,440
And by the time you understand 
it's a close play and there's a 

2293
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,560
speck of urgency, he beats it 
out. 

2294
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:34,800
I would have benched him for 
that. 

2295
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,720
I would have benched him and and
I think that that's one of the 

2296
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,760
real issues with Jazz Chisholm. 
I mean, last week he gets 

2297
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,520
thrown, he gets picked off first
base because he's he's in space 

2298
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,240
with his, with his oven Mitt, 
you know, and this is the 

2299
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,520
reason. 
And now he's not even hitting. 

2300
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,560
Now he's going to hit. 
But that's why I didn't like him

2301
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:55,120
talking about 5050 because what 
what are you doing trying to hit

2302
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,840
fifty home runs? 
What are you, what are you 

2303
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,400
selling out from a mechanical 
point of view? 

2304
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,640
That's going to lead to 
additional breakdowns, that's 

2305
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,560
going to lead to more strikeouts
and fewer quality at bats. 

2306
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,880
He looks awful this year. 
Now a lot of great and he's not 

2307
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,200
great, but a lot of really good.
He is really good. 

2308
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,040
A lot of really good players 
look awful because pitcher still

2309
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:15,600
have the advantage at this point
of the year. 

2310
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,240
And it's April and it's a sport 
rooted in failure and it's an 

2311
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,880
incredibly small sample, but 
he's striking out a ton. 

2312
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,160
And once again, there's been 
multiple times where his head is

2313
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,400
in space. 
And this is the Jazz experience 

2314
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,440
that I want no part of long 
term. 

2315
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,640
That's why I'm not giving him an
extension. 

2316
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,560
That's why I've told you that at
some point the Yankees will move

2317
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,360
on from him. 
They're not going to give him 

2318
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,720
that big deal. 
I still think depending upon 

2319
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,240
what happens with some other 
player movement, they could 

2320
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,680
trade him, although now you're 
probably more inclined to, you 

2321
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:47,600
know, go to go through the 
process. 

2322
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,880
Maybe Aqo, I don't know if he 
matches or if he doesn't, you 

2323
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,520
get some draft comp. 
I don't know what they're going 

2324
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,560
to do here, but I just it just 
comes down to not trusting 

2325
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,720
somebody to be locked in when 
you have to be locked in. 

2326
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,320
I mean that's job number one. 
I mean, because if you're on a 

2327
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,440
Major League diamond, 
everybody's got the requisite 

2328
01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:08,880
amount of speed and arm strength
and hands and the ability to 

2329
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,840
hit, you know, higher level 
pitching because that you 

2330
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,480
wouldn't be in the major leagues
if you couldn't. 

2331
01:51:13,480 --> 01:51:17,400
All right, understood. 
If Jazz Chisholm, imagine if 

2332
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:21,520
Jazz Chisholm had the approach 
of, you know, I'm not even 

2333
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,800
saying like a great player, but 
just like the mindset, just the 

2334
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,920
data of like a Caballero right 
now, Caballero is not nearly as 

2335
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,000
good, but at least he's a 
grinder. 

2336
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,680
You know, like Jazz, he just 
floats mentally. 

2337
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:36,720
It's it's not always, it's just 
not always a given that he's 

2338
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,000
going to be ready to play 
baseball. 

2339
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,080
I'm sorry. 
And, you know, that is just 

2340
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,480
unacceptable. 
I know what happened to Lindor 

2341
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:45,440
as well when he got picked off 
with his oven Mitt. 

2342
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:47,360
These damn oven mitts. 
They're the size of a catcher's 

2343
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:48,520
Mitt at this point. 
My God. 

2344
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,400
You know, Ricky Henderson didn't
bust up fingers, but everybody 

2345
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,840
else needs an oven Mitt, you 
know, and now all the kids have 

2346
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:54,840
them too. 
So I get it. 

2347
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,920
So another racket. 
Baseball bats are 500 bucks. 

2348
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,520
Everybody needs an oven Mitt. 
Oh my God. 

2349
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:06,560
But that is another example why 
I'm just never going to be ever 

2350
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:10,400
all in on Jazz Chisholm, because
that could very easily happen in

2351
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:14,200
September against Toronto in a 
higher leverage moment because 

2352
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:17,200
it and and, and if you say to 
me, well, not too early in the 

2353
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:18,560
year, he's going to be more 
locked in. 

2354
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,960
Well, yeah, why wasn't he locked
in against the Dodgers in the 

2355
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,720
World Series when he's looking 
around, staring in space from 

2356
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:27,200
the Bulls trickling past him and
runners are running around like 

2357
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,600
a, you know, like a merry go 
round one that was the World 

2358
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,480
Series. 
So that's an invalid. 

2359
01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:36,680
That is not a good take on Jazz 
Chisholm, and I want to be clear

2360
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,400
about this as well. 
I love his style and I love his 

2361
01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:41,720
energy. 
I don't want this to ever get 

2362
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,680
twisted. 
My only knock about Jazz is that

2363
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,760
he's just simply not emotionally
reliable. 

2364
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,560
That's it. 
That's it. 

2365
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,280
You know, the way, the way he 
wears his hat, All right, That's

2366
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:54,600
not the way that I would wear my
hat. 

2367
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,680
But I actually like the fact 
that, you know, he's got that 

2368
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,800
swag because for too many years 
the Yankees had no swag. 

2369
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,800
It was incredibly corporate. 
It was incredibly mundane. 

2370
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:09,040
It was incredibly predictable. 
Like, you know, like I, I like 

2371
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,840
individuality. 
You know, I don't, who knows 

2372
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,480
what the hell I would look like 
if I was coming up and I was 22 

2373
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:16,520
years old and I'm in the majors 
right now. 

2374
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,880
I know I'd have the arm bands 
and the eye black and, you know,

2375
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,080
the chains and, yeah, all the 
other stuff. 

2376
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,120
I don't know if I'd, if I'd be 
rocking and earring at this 

2377
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,360
point, but a lot of players do. 
Cool. 

2378
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:29,200
Looks good, man. 
You're a stylish cat. 

2379
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,560
You've got a world. 
The talent, like if you weren't 

2380
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,480
so talented, I don't think I'd 
hold them to any other level of,

2381
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:38,160
you know, responsibility except 
just be reliable. 

2382
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,920
You know, if you hit 240 with 20
home runs and 20 something 

2383
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,800
steals or 30 steals, I'd say, 
all right, that's your, that's 

2384
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,480
your ceiling. 
That's the kind of player you 

2385
01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:48,880
are. 
I believe there's more or I I 

2386
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,480
think I used to believe there's 
more because you do get to a 

2387
01:53:51,480 --> 01:53:54,200
point in your career where you 
know, you got to probably stop 

2388
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:58,080
saying that, you know, and he 
just demonstrates. 

2389
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,920
I don't need to just say this 
over and over. 

2390
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:03,280
He demonstrates too often when 
the guys around him now, they 

2391
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,160
might be a little deficient in 
terms of foot speed or whatever 

2392
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,800
else. 
He's got a good arm as well. 

2393
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,680
Could play third, play the 
outfield with the Marlins, like 

2394
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,200
he's versatile, runs like the 
wind. 

2395
01:54:11,480 --> 01:54:15,320
I mean, the guy's got easy, easy
for a skinny, wiry, strong dude.

2396
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,400
He's got ridiculous easy power 
when he connects from the left 

2397
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,960
side, but that doesn't justify 
not being ready to do your job. 

2398
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:26,000
So every Yankee fan that's 
tripping over themselves 

2399
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,880
defending Jazz, Always so 
talented, always so electric, 

2400
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,560
always going to hit thirty home 
runs, always the second best 

2401
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,440
second baseman in baseball. 
All those things are true, but 

2402
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:39,640
it still makes him an unreliable
player. 

2403
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,520
That's it. 
It really does. 

2404
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,720
All right, Jay, anything else 
that I missed here? 

2405
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,000
I believe that we're good. 
Almost two hours. 

2406
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:50,040
Gotta go a little longer today. 
I think we hit it. 

2407
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,720
I mean certainly hit everything 
you wanna see. 

2408
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:56,440
I mean got some content content 
comments if you want to see 

2409
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:57,360
them. 
Yeah, let's get a couple of 

2410
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,360
comments. 
I think this is a new follower 

2411
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,120
of the show, by the way. 
Of course, like subscribe, what 

2412
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,080
happened to that like subscribe 
button that you were popping in 

2413
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,240
there once in a while, Jay? 
Ryan, here's the thing. 

2414
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,760
Did it? 
Did it keep making your screen 

2415
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:11,000
turn black? 
It did. 

2416
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,320
Now it's actually OK though now.
But now when? 

2417
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,120
Maybe when we get rid, you know 
what it did. 

2418
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,400
But when there's a comment up 
there, so watch, keep it now. 

2419
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,840
Oh, here we go there. 
We go. 

2420
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:27,120
We we run from the expense on 
this show, all right, We've got 

2421
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:31,400
an unlimited budget. 
Yeah, on ET Unleashed as we grow

2422
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,640
it out. 
I like that thing. 

2423
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:34,440
I do. 
I like that. 

2424
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:35,880
Can you give me that comment up 
there? 

2425
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:37,240
Again, I don't want to talk 
about Jazz. 

2426
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,080
Let's get a couple of comments 
and I'm going to bounce here. 

2427
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,320
All right. 
We had it on Jazz, that virtual 

2428
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,720
discourse, I believe. 
I believe a new follower of the 

2429
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:45,800
show. 
So if you follow it and you 

2430
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,720
haven't subbed and you haven't 
liked and you haven't hit the 

2431
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,000
comments, by all means, do that.
Welcome to the show. 

2432
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,880
If you knew Mr. Virtual or 
misses or miss, if Jazz was more

2433
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,840
mentally locked in, he could be 
one of the best players in the 

2434
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:56,560
game. 
It's a shame. 

2435
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:57,680
Very athletic. 
I agree. 

2436
01:55:58,200 --> 01:55:59,160
I mean, so we're on the same 
page. 

2437
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,680
He absolutely he was on the 
cover of of the show for a 

2438
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:06,240
reason a couple of years back. 
He's got out of this world 

2439
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,480
electric talent. 
Like there's nothing he can't 

2440
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:10,200
do. 
He does things where you're 

2441
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:11,600
like, man, that's just not 
natural. 

2442
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,840
That's not normal. 
That is at his next level. 

2443
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,400
Quick twitch. 
But again, at what point, you 

2444
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,520
know, whether it's even the 
playlet and people got mad at me

2445
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:22,440
for this. 
They're like, oh, you're 

2446
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,600
nitpicking on Jazz. 
Even the play last year when he 

2447
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:31,320
scored from first in the 
playoffs, right there was 

2448
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,440
actually a little bit of a 
hesitation and you know it. 

2449
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,000
You know, I'm not whatever. 
I'm not going to, you know, 

2450
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,120
profess to be some next level 
baseball guy. 

2451
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,640
But but I you know, I do consume
the game, consume the game a 

2452
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:43,840
little bit differently than 
some. 

2453
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:45,560
And I'm like, it's not a good 
jump. 

2454
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,680
He didn't actually get top speed
until he was halfway or 

2455
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,360
approaching second base. 
Now he beat the I believe he's 

2456
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:55,240
slid head first, slid head first
and he beat it. 

2457
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:57,640
But that's not the point. 
It should not have been that 

2458
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:00,160
close. 
And when you rely on top level 

2459
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:04,000
speed to make up for a 
lethargic, lackadaisical start, 

2460
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:05,480
eventually that's going to catch
up to you. 

2461
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,840
And I'm not saying that I think 
that Ben Rice is somebody who 

2462
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:11,840
does maximize his talent because
he's not that fast and he's 

2463
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,000
learning to play first base, but
he's a great young hitter. 

2464
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,440
Even I'm I was critical. 
This would have been on Thursday

2465
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:22,840
or Friday, whatever day it was. 
There was a play, a little 

2466
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:24,960
Tapper. 
I think Will Warren was pitching

2467
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,840
this game, a little Tapper up 
the third base side that Warren 

2468
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,800
got. 
And there was a play at first 

2469
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:34,800
base and Rice didn't stretch. 
Now, if you're a first baseman, 

2470
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,440
I also understand ball up the 
line, third base. 

2471
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,560
You want to keep your left foot.
You want to give an inside and 

2472
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,080
you generally yell inside 
catchers, yell that first 

2473
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,920
baseman yell that inside or 
outside if it's in foul 

2474
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,120
territory with the catcher 
coming up with that throw. 

2475
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,720
So I get it. 
Your left foot is anchored on 

2476
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,880
the bag, but he did not receive 
the ball properly. 

2477
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,080
Now he was still out. 
If you look at that, he was out 

2478
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,000
by this much. 
But if he would have very 

2479
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,080
quickly and this is all process 
of learning. 

2480
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:01,720
It's not me getting on the young
man figuring out first base 

2481
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,480
because it's not as easy as some
people think. 

2482
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,000
But if he would have quickly 
shifted from his left foot to 

2483
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,200
his right foot and went out and 
received the ball and go and get

2484
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,240
the ball with a real stretch. 
And it's on my Twitter account 

2485
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:13,160
if you guys want to check it 
out. 

2486
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:14,720
If you want to actually see what
I'm talking about. 

2487
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,280
And if you saw the play, you 
should remember that just a 

2488
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,400
little finer point that that I 
like to bring to the table that 

2489
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:22,760
I don't think everybody agrees 
with because I saw some of the 

2490
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:25,960
comments and some of the 
comments are like, dude, he hit 

2491
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,080
a home run and he's hitting 400.
This what you nitpick on and 

2492
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,560
where the Yankees are. 
They've lost one game so far. 

2493
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,040
This what you're pointing out? 
Yes, I am. 

2494
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,320
I'm thrilled with the start, 
although Sunday bothered me. 

2495
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,160
I'm thrilled with the start. 
I love the way Rice looks. 

2496
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:40,240
I think he's going to be an All 
Star. 

2497
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:41,360
I think he's going to be top 
ten. 

2498
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,800
The American League MVP voting, 
which I've already said, I said 

2499
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:47,320
before the season started, but 
it doesn't mean that I can't 

2500
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,720
point out something that could 
hurt you in October. 

2501
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:53,600
I don't understand how people 
and people the, the, the small 

2502
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,680
minded people who can't compute 
both. 

2503
01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:00,920
I, I just those people frustrate
me because they, they're so 

2504
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,400
black and white. 
No, this is a little bit of a 

2505
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,440
next, next level, next level. 
Take a little bit of a next 

2506
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:09,320
level pointing something out, 
something small, because I love 

2507
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:10,920
the game. 
And Oh yeah, by the way, it's 

2508
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,520
100% right. 
If you ever played first base 

2509
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,640
where you coached, you know, you
got to, you got to maximize that

2510
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:20,040
strike, go and get the ball. 
How do you if if you're safe by 

2511
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:22,960
this much And he was, he was out
by this much, but if you're safe

2512
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,240
by this much and your stretch is
here, but you can really stretch

2513
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,480
to here. 
You tell me how many inches are 

2514
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,120
you leaving on the table? 
Half a foot, maybe more, maybe 

2515
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:35,360
10, maybe 10 inches, 6-7, maybe 
10 inches, right. 

2516
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:36,720
That thing is ridiculous at this
point. 

2517
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:38,960
Maybe 10 inches. 
And then you know what, it's not

2518
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,320
as Bang Bang as you've as as it 
was. 

2519
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:44,520
Anyway, it's more about Jazz, 
but I wanted to point that out 

2520
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:48,160
about Ben Rice and there's just 
something in his game that I 

2521
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:52,640
will never, ever trust and deep 
down I know the Yankees feel the

2522
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:54,640
same way. 
We'll see how it plays out. 

2523
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:56,800
I promise you. 
This one you could take to the 

2524
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,040
bank and it's probably going to 
be within the next month. 

2525
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,760
There is something aside from 
the home runs that will come and

2526
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:06,040
the great plays that will come 
and probably 40 to 50 steals 

2527
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,520
that will come. 
He will do something over the 

2528
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:11,240
next however many you know weeks
will be like. 

2529
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:14,320
What are you doing? 
Confounding head scratcher. 

2530
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:17,320
So that's the jazz experience. 
Wildly talented. 

2531
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:20,640
Also equally confounding. 
All right, J Rod, good job with 

2532
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,600
the concert, with the set on 
over the weekend. 

2533
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:26,560
I'm happy you had fun again. 
Thank you to the Texas Rangers 

2534
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,400
throwing out the first pitch. 
I threw it with some zip, man. 

2535
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,200
I went out there, but the ball 
was slick. 

2536
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:33,400
But I got to own it. 
You know what? 

2537
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:34,800
Oh, I didn't tell you this 
either. 

2538
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:37,440
I was so in my head as I was 
documenting the first pitch 

2539
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,160
because I was waiting for 20 
minutes basically. 

2540
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:41,440
I got people went out there when
they gave me the ball, I told 

2541
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,240
you that it was very slippery 
that I told you. 

2542
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:47,200
What I didn't tell you is that I
spent all the 20 minutes 

2543
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,920
spitting on the ball, which I 
know sounds gross, and even 

2544
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:52,400
trying to pick up some of the 
remnants of the on deck circle 

2545
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,040
to where the guy to. 
Try to dry it off a little. 

2546
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,600
Yeah, but then I then I was 
like, well, you don't want to 

2547
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:00,960
get too much dirt on it because 
you want to, you know, they 

2548
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:04,000
wrote something nice and I want 
to put it in my, you know, in my

2549
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,480
office and I want to like some 
of the other things that I have 

2550
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,520
on display. 
So but I I was so in my head 

2551
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,200
because it was so slick, but I 
did not throw a strike. 

2552
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:13,920
The wind up was good. 
Had some good V low. 

2553
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:18,000
But man, if, if, if, if Travis 
Jatakowski doesn't save me that 

2554
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:21,080
thing, that thing, that thing's 
dead. 

2555
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:24,120
That thing is hitting the the 
screen on a fly. 

2556
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,640
All right, man, let's bounce. 
I'm back tomorrow with 10 J Rod 

2557
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:29,440
have have a great Tuesday. 
We'll get all the shorts up. 

2558
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,960
Have a an awesome time today. 
Masters week. 

2559
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:36,120
Congrats to Michigan more and 
more and more and more on the 

2560
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,920
NFL draft. 
We get closer now 16 days away 

2561
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:41,600
from the aforementioned draft. 
We'll get a guest in. 

2562
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:43,800
I was able to get in a guest 
this week. 

2563
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:47,360
I'm working on a few things, so 
I don't want to say who yet in 

2564
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,320
case it doesn't come to 
fruition, but it will be a big 

2565
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,120
one. 
If you missed the Stephen A chat

2566
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:54,480
or the Michael Kay chat or the 
Le Greco chat or the Pitino 

2567
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:57,040
chat, go and check out the 
channel, jump into some other 

2568
02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:00,520
content like it, subscribe it. 
Appreciate the BT Unleashed fan,

2569
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:02,120
you guys know that. 
See you tomorrow at 10. 

2570
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:02,720
Peace.
