What's happening to everybody? Unleash, man.
We got it all for you today. Happy Monday.
Kids are home from school so you got to come up with all these
activities. Let's get into it.
Wild football weekend. Two of the games were
phenomenal. 2 were absolute snooze fest.
We got something on Bellinger. Here come the Mets maybe try to
weasel their way in with with Bellinger and obviously this
just broke about 30 minutes ago. McDermott out as the head coach
of the Bills now. OK, so I get it.
I've got a lot of buddies who were Bill's Bill, a lot of
friends of mine who are Bill's fans.
So I've been hearing for a while and I've been saying for a
while, I really like McDermott. I don't necessarily view him as
a next level guy necessarily, but I got to take this is this
is really, really one of the major problems with the NFL.
This doesn't happen necessarily in the NBA because one call
doesn't ruin somebody's legacy. This doesn't happen in baseball
because one missed ball or strike or ground rule double,
even though a replay, whatever, it's hard to really mess that
stuff up. But in the NFL, if you lose a
big game and you lose a big a big game because the referees
are incompetent, you are going to lose your job.
And I understand that. There's really a conversation to
be had and we've had this conversation now for about a
year or two. All right, what's the ceiling
for McDermott? Could he really push him
through? I understand that.
And I'm not even pushing back on the fact that the Bills fired
him. A lot of ways I respect it
because and I like McDermott. He's a good coach, not great,
but he's good. And he matter fact, he's really
good. But I do think it shows to their
fans into the football community that you know, they're after a
championship. And when you fall short again,
based on the circumstances that were so favorable for Josh Allen
and the Buffalo Bills this time around, there's recourse there
and somebody is going to lose their job.
But think about the sequence. And we all watch the game.
We all know what happened, but just listen to when you actually
hear it, right? Late fourth quarter, Alan,
incomplete pass to Brandon Cox. Are you trying to tell me that
that's not pass interference? Are you on Riley Moss?
That was clearly that was an egregious miss.
If the referees make that call, the ball is on the one with 19
seconds to go and guess what? You got to score a touchdown in
all probability. And if not, you're going to
obviously go to overtime, which they did.
But because the referees just really just an unacceptably bad
call or non call that cost McDermott his job if you really
think about it. And by the way, then you keep
going. I mean, there was a litany of
moves that went a litany of calls that went against the
Buffalo Bills. I if I'm a Bills fan last night,
Saturday night, today. I don't know how I recover from
this. I I really don't, which is going
to lead me into a deeper conversation in a minute.
And then of course, you get the Cooks perception.
Brandon Cooks in the middle of a lot here.
I think Moss was involved in that play as well.
I think he was. Yeah, clearly down.
Did he complete the catch? Oh, what's the rules?
Nobody really understands the interpretation.
I thought the knee was down clearly.
I thought that was a reception clearly instead interception.
And then of course, you get even later where there's a non call
where I thought that I thought a Bills receiver was obviously
interfered with. So pick, make a pick, one call,
2 call, 3 calls and Mcdermott's out of a job.
And, and it really is just crazy.
It's absolutely crazy how this works here.
I don't like it. I don't have an answer for you
necessarily, but I don't understand that you could have a
multi billion dollar NFL machine and not get this shit right.
We're talking about championships, we're talking
about legacies, we're talking about job security.
Come on. Just absolutely incredulous at
at some of the malfunctions and mistakes that the league
continues to make. I don't understand it.
It is just reprehensibly bad. Uh oh, Gruden back in the
league. BT any chance what up, Miami?
Sal, I appreciate that. Thank you for checking in.
I mean, listen, I don't know. I mean, I would you be surprised
if they called Bill Belichick? I'm not saying that I would make
that call necessarily, but this is now going to be the dialogue.
You think Bill had a lot of fun at North Carolina?
And let me tell you something else right now, if and when.
All right. And I don't even really think
that that's going to happen, although his name's going to be
inserted into every conversation.
I think Rex already, somebody texted me and said that Rex
already said it on on ESPN this morning.
I'm surprised Rex isn't saying that they should bring him back.
I mean, if you listen to Rex Ryan, you think he won 3
championships like Rex. I love Rex.
Rex was a good coach and A and an awesome dude.
Rex, I mean, I mean, the last five years, Rex telling us he
should be in the mix for every job that's open.
I mean, Rex, maybe the fact that nobody calls you should tell you
something that you're not really viewed in that light as a coach,
at least not as a head coach. So I don't know, maybe they
reach out to Brian Dabel, who's got a great relationship with,
with Josh Allen. You know, he he helped further
unlock him. What degree of credit Brian
Davis really get for the explosion of Josh Allen?
I'm not sure. I don't really know how you
delegate that. But I think he's perceived very
favorably in the building. There's familiarity and there's
a track record of success. And, and obviously Miami Sal
asks me about Jon Gruden. I would not hire Jon Gruden.
I think Jon Gruden's overrated. And it's not that I wouldn't
hire Jon Gruden because of the emails and all that other stuff.
I'm not even saying that I would not hire Jon Gruden because I
think Jon Gruden is a slightly overrated coach.
And if you're trying to get from here and they're already pretty
high to there, which will be really high, and he's trying to
win that championship, I don't know.
I mean, if Jon Gruden doesn't inherit that, inherit that
terrific Tampa Bay Buccaneers roster, Jon Gruden's got no
championships as a head coach. I'm not saying he's not good.
I'm not saying that he's not a guy that can come into, you
know, a moribund situation and certainly elevated 2 or 3 levels
to competitive to really competitive.
But I can't sit here and tell you guys that I think for sure
that John Grood's a championship coach at this stage.
Too many years of passwords to the contrary.
So just a wild weekend. And again, he got the two duds.
And then last night, Caleb Williams is an absolute freak
show. I know they lost the game, but
my God. Yeah.
And this opens something up. And I I really, I've gone back
and forth myself. I have personally vacillated on
this. I really have.
I've gone back and forth, I admit it.
But I know my my answer when I have to actually provide the
ultimate answer. But before I give you the
answer, I want to actually present the dilemma.
What what to you is, is tougher. What to you was more
frustrating? Being irrelevant, OK, like like
The Jets all these years and and having no pain, you know, like
the Cardinals, like the Browns, like those teams that do nothing
or this incredible hurt that doesn't go away for a while and
it stays with you, especially if your season ends because you got
hosed by the refs. Not necessarily losing to a
better team, you know, or a legend like Mahomes, which
happened when they lost 32 to 29.
I mean, think about how close Mcdermott's been the
championships or, you know, Super Bowls and obviously in the
AFC Championship with, with the game with Kansas City, It really
is crazy. And and that's just, to me, it
just further reinforces the need to overhaul or recalibrate or
whatever words you want to use. They've got to start getting
this right. The stakes are too big and all
that other stuff that I said before, but I really, I, I go
back and forth, like I see the shots of the crowd, right?
Chicago coming back from commercial break, newly
renovated and refurbished Soldier Field, which is a
stadium that is when I was first introduced to football, you
know, early 80s and certainly mid 80s when they had that great
46 defense with Buddy Ryan and of course Walter Payton and
Ditka. And they won the world
championship. They squashed the Patriots,
whatever the heck the score was in the Super.
They beat about like 30 something.
It wasn't even competitive, right?
And there's a lot of big games against the Giants back then and
the Redskins back then, the pen Redskins.
So I have seen that camera, even though the stadium looks
different many times in my life going back years and years and
years. And the Bears have won
championship and the Bears have a real short list.
I mean, basically nobody. It's going to be Caleb Williams
because he's that good. They have no great quarter.
Jim McMahon wasn't great. Jim McMahon was alone for the
ride. He was a he was a character
without that defense. Jim McMahon's got no rings.
That's just the way it goes. And I so there's going to be
better days for the Bears. That's why I say that.
And they're fans, but you can't tell them that last night you
lose in overtime at home, the elements, the snow, everything
that's going on. And now you, you like I'm, I'm
trying to put myself back in that mindset.
And it's been so long, whether it was 98 with Denver or
obviously back-to-back with Rex, losing championship games for
the AFC. I mean, that's, it's a million
years ago for me, that feeling when that game ends and and you
lose the way some of these teams lose.
I, I really think that it's a fair question at least to knock
around and and kick around for a little bit.
Like what? What's the lesser of the two
evils? Not being relevant enough where
you get hurt or being highly relevant, being in the
conversation, you know, year after year after year and then
having your heart smashed into a million smithereens.
I, I, I don't know. By the way, is there any show
date yet planned for Stephen AI? Appreciate that.
Inside the MLB. So the first thing that we had
to do, I don't know if you guys can notice, right?
Got a little bell and whistle down there.
We're going to start trotting out some stuff.
The studio redesign is coming. You look at the logo up there in
the upper right for me, upper left for you.
I would imagine, or maybe it's the same, I don't know.
Got a new camera. You know that the camera is just
phenomenal, right? It's just it's a different level
of clarity. So we got some things cooking
and before we go any further, I had now I know that as I say
that this is going to hurt my son who is home from school
today, who helped the daddy get this thing off the ground.
So Colts always going to be the the Co producer and the founding
producer. He's always going to have that
on his resume. But as my little 11 year old get
back, gets back to school and has all these games, he's got to
get on with being a kid and doing his thing.
So daddy had a find an adult producer who was available, who
is obviously respected, somebody that I've worked with before all
The Jets on killable stuff after games when I was with the fan
full time, Jared was my producer.
Jared, come on in. Let the world see you.
But look at this guy. What's going on here, buddy?
How you feeling, dude? Nothing much.
Excited. Excited to push the brand
forward, excited to do some producing to get some comments
hating on the time stamps and telling me what to fix.
And yeah, ready. Ready for the whole adventure,
man? Hey, well, that's awesome.
And you know, we obviously had to go through the contracts and
you know you your people looking and, and, and and that's that's
the way business goes. So I respected the process
throughout. I always knew that I wanted you.
You sensed right away that you wanted to make this happen.
We just had adopt the I. So here we are man.
And by the way, there is only I don't have many rules on the
show because there's not many parameters that I have to adhere
to. I don't have to.
I'm not beholding to a commercial break.
I'm not beholding to we got this show coming up next.
We do whatever we want, but there is one rule.
All right, I should probably should have told you this before
you actually signed the. I don't know if you're going to
like this, but this is in the very this is in the very small
print that you probably didn't read and hopefully your lawyer
glossed over as well. Any like egregious malfunction
mistake. It's your fault.
Yeah, that you know that rule, right?
That. Shouldn't even be in the the
fine print that I knew that from the day I forgot to hit the
intro on that one episode. We did remember that.
So listen, man, it's awesome to have you.
And now as things break, like we'll get to some Bellinger
Yankee Mets stuff or if this was me, if McDermott got fired when
I was on the unlike the Beau Buchet thing where you guys to
tell me what's going on in the in the stream here and I'm
checking my phone. I'm like is did, did they really
sign them? I got my producer.
He is locked in. He is on top of it.
We're building out more concepts every day.
It's going to look better and better and better start adding
some musical elements. So, Jared, it is awesome to
officially have you part of. Thank you.
Welcome, ma'am. Thank you again and yeah, to all
the fans, everyone super excited to get to work and just provide
the greatest content that we can for you.
That's. Awesome you know you know we're
but you know you know we're about to blow up here brother
there he is Jeremiah producer all right and yes my son is
going to always keep that He is built he's grandfathered in to
the you know he was the executive producer for about 3
weeks or so now he is for perpetuity.
He is always locked into that role.
He was the first producer BT Unleashed and he was awesome.
So I thank him for that. All right, now you think about
the the hurt, right and the pain and, and you try to like juggle
not mattering. Like there's nothing worse than
not mattering. Like if you don't matter, you
just don't matter. Like there's no way to.
I don't need to church that up. We all know what that means.
You don't matter. You, you don't.
Nobody talks about you unless they're throwing a joke like the
Butt fumble or like the Giants recently until they found the
quarterback and found the coach and John Harbaugh, like all
these things that irrelevance bring you to all right.
It is, it is absolutely. It's it's, it's, it's, it's a
different level of devastation because you're not you're not
amped up for anything. The only thing that excites me
on football Sunday is am I going to win a couple of bets?
How's my fantasy team doing? Which wasn't very good again.
And what am I eating? I'm like, where am I going to
get the sandwich? And you guys by now know what
the sandwich is. Generally sundaes, a little
roast beef, extra thin, extra mozzarella, you know, a little
roasted red pepper, a little oil, a little vinegar, a little
bag of chips, a little ginger ale, little cucumber salad,
sometimes a little shrimp salad. I sit there and I watch bored
out of my mind. I watch The Jets do nothing.
So there's no like I'm never afflicted with this burden.
I never go to the next game or go to bed if it's a Sunday or a
Monday night game where I am distraught.
However, I don't think that that's necessarily a common
thought where I I think that some people would be OK with
that. That football knife being
plunged in your football heart like the Bills fans and like
some other fans that just get the wrong end of the stick with
these calls and let's see what Nate is saying here at Nate
under score Jets all right, losing for 10 plays about the
what we're talking about losing for 10 plus years as The Jets
have done them. This is a good point can cost it
an entire generation of young passionate fans.
I would relive I would kill to Why can't I read this?
I would kill the relive 2009 jets playoff runs or the O6 Andy
Chavez great catch. Obviously Adam Wainwright
curveball. Of course, you know Beltran's
got a swing in that spot, but we all know what he's talking
about. Even though they both ended in
heartbreak and all right, so that's a good thought there
Nate, thank you for that. I appreciate the Super chat.
Thank you very much. I understand that, I really do
because when you, when you look at this right and and you look
at the lead up and and this is what you've got to reconcile
from within like me, just got to sit like this on the couch.
All right, You know, I got to fire up the pod here in 30
minutes, Jets are losing 30 to 3, Jets are losing 27 six Jets
are losing 40 to 13. I've got a couple of notes here.
Let me, let me start the pod and let me let a RIP and just, you
know, cathartically yell like an incense lunatic.
Sure. I I guess that anybody could do
that and it gets old after a while.
And yelling for the sake of yelling is maybe it's
entertaining once in a while, but to me it's not incredibly
intelligent. It's this world.
There's really no depth there. So I mean, that's got an
exploration point as well. And at least, at least even with
that loss by the Bills, even with that loss by the Bears,
think about the build up, think about what you get, the equity
that you have with your team and that your team more importantly
has with you, that built in equity.
You get to the draft, all right? You know you're not going first
or second. You don't need a quarterback if
you're a good team. So the position that everybody's
chasing, you already have, that's good.
That's check #1 favorably. And then you get to like OTAs
and offseason workouts and maybe a little free agency.
And now there's that type of energy.
Hey, if you're a good team with cap space, you're really pumped
up. If you're a good team with no
cap space, you're still probably pumped up because good teams
generally have creative GM's and personnel departments.
And then you restructure this and you restructure that.
And guess what? You go from being $3 million
over the cap to suddenly having 2829 or 30 where you can at
least get those reinforcements to hopefully take the next step.
So you're even excited about that.
And then training camp starts and you flock to watch the
practices. You pray that nobody gets hurt.
The real, real nobody. But really, especially the
quarterbacks, you know, we've seen that before.
You pray you get through camp healthy.
Most of the stars don't play at all anymore.
Maybe a series early on, shed the rust and that's it.
So the summer, once the preseason games come on, you're
kind of chilling. You get a chance to see your
team's logo. You still 10, You still going to
the beach, You still watching baseball.
All's good. You got your the whole football
season in front of you and that no, it's a feeling I haven't
felt in a long time, but as I can recollect as I dust off my
memory bank brain, it's an amazing feeling like yo, we we
got it. We got one of the best defenses
in football. We can run the hell out of it.
We'll talk about The Jets with with Rex.
We got an old line. This is our year like and that
what you think that it is your year in the NFL.
It's unlike any other feeling that you have with any other
team in any other sport. If you even if you think you're
about to win it like trust me now the Knicks are just I mean
you lost twice to the Suns in five days.
Knicks get your act together, man.
They're playing later. This Knick team.
I think this Knick team is actually busted.
I would make trades. I tweeted that the other night.
This team's not winning anything.
I spoke about that the other day.
And if you guys missed it, go and check out the previous pod.
It's in there. But even though I don't like
this team now, and I do think you've got to reconfigure this
by the end of the dead, by the deadline, I was excited about
the Knicks this year. I knew that they had, you know,
based on the odds and based on Bronson and based on their
talent and a new philosophy offensively.
I was obviously very excited about the Knicks ability to
pursue like get to a championship, maybe mess around,
win one, but certainly get out of the Eastern Conference.
And that that set me up emotionally for a fun.
But now it doesn't mean they can't get there.
I don't think they will, but that level of conviction and
excitement kind of, you know, the fuse together is so
different. It's 9 layers emotionally passed
where you are as a football fan. All right, because I just go
back to my debts. My my jet stays with with Rex
right? So as then the season starts and
you have a good football team September, October, November,
December. And if you have a good team
means you have a great quarterback generally, which
means you got a ton of primetime games, which means your life as
a football fan is fun. The complete antithesis a bite.
And generally you are rewarded with take a pick, 11 on the low
side, 12/13 regular season wins. You know, everything's good, you
cooking, playoffs start, maybe you have the buy, at least you
have a home game, generally speaking, right?
And then it ends and it's that six or seven month build up and
the ending is so painful. I don't know that there's a
worse hurt in sport than losing a big football game with your
team. If you're truly an invested, die
hard fan. I, I, I don't know.
And I mean, listen, I've, I've come up with some, you know,
like Mariano, the broken bad base hit for O1.
That's a different level of hurt versus, say, choking it away in
Denver 98 or even Vinny getting hurt in 99 with the Achilles,
because I knew that that was the end of the jet season.
It's it's next level, it's deeper, it's different level of
pain. And, and that's up to you to
reconcile. I, I, I know my reconciliation,
I would always choose to be relevant.
I'll always take my chances there because if you're
relevant, you could eventually crack through.
And as much as the Bills and the Bears fans feel that today,
eventually the Bills fans will regenerate when they have a new,
provided they like the coach that he's introduced and he got
Josh Hamlin. And the Bears fans will sit
there and say, we just watched a young man make some of the
sickest throws that I've ever seen.
I mean, Mahomes level throws, 18 seconds, falling back backwards,
40 something. Your heart's on a rope.
Are you crazy? Like, so your life is going to
be good for a while. But the pain today, it's
absolutely brutal. Hammer time, 3661.
It's been so long, I don't remember what it's like to not
be numb on Sundays. I'd sell the kidney for a first
round playoff exit. You, you really wouldn't.
But I I I get the point. Yeah.
I mean, it's it's insane. And then you look at it to like
53 penalty yards, guys, 53 on a single overtime drive.
That's what the referees decided was, was the way to go.
That's just, it's unacceptable and it is so unfair.
And I understand, like even I know the automated UMS that's
going to change things. But or, you know, say a 5050,
was it a charge? Was it a block?
I know you could review stuff, I get it.
But there's always going to be with almost every call, unless
it's fair or foul, like in baseball, that's, that's clear.
There's always going to be an element of subjectivity because
even the strike zone, like you say, wow, from the, from the
chest to the to the knees, OK. But the National League strike
zone back of the day was different than the American
League. So there's always a a stretching
of the boundaries, a little bit of a different interpretation of
of of what, you know, what a strike zone might be.
I mean, there should be no interpretation what a catches.
And and that's the problem with what went down the other night
with Buffalo Saturday night. I mean, he caught the ball, but
he didn't complete the catch. And by the time he completed the
catch, that's what he stole it from.
And that's why it's a big no. I think you got to roar.
His knee was down. If you fumble and your elbow is
hits the turf, is it a like if you have if you possess the ball
and you hit the turf and your elbow or your knee makes contact
with the ground before the ball is being pried away, is that a
fumble? The answer is no.
Like unequivocally. We know that that is very easy
to look at a film or look at a replay.
And the deuce immediately, all right, elbow ground, the ground
ball, dead ball loose ball coming loose before, you know,
an an inch before the elbow hit the ground, it was getting
stripped away. But you, you just you can't, you
can't mess these calls up and you can't be so hasty in the
evaluation and the process of trying to determine what in the
world just happened. And that's what happened.
Oh, good. No, that's why Mcturbin's like
time out. Come on, this is my he knows.
He knows that if he loses that game, he's getting whacked.
Now, I think he's I don't think that was a selfish move, like,
oh, let me really make sure they get this right so I don't lose
my job. No, he's about his team at that
point. But the downstream repercussion,
the byproduct of not 1-2 egregious and a third call that
was highly questionable, just cost a good football coach's
job. Is that right?
The answer is no act at brac 227.
What up brac guys got the bears lid on there Ah here you go
finally now this is the good stuff.
Finally got to see the bears have a great season and able to
watch with my seven-year old son and see the joy on his face with
every win Now listen, you know you know how I love this.
You know I love the kids I love the sports.
I love it all, man, so I get it. And there are certain moments
that you'll just as much as you think it's going to be a daily
occurrence, you know, you never know.
I mean, like, you know, if I had children in 96 and 98 and 99 and
2000, we'd be sitting there going to a total World Series
championships in person and watching the road games and
watching the Yankees win 4 championships, you know?
No, but my kids were born in 15 and 16, no championships.
So that's awesome. You didn't win the game, the
bond, this bill. And listen, you're a dad.
I don't have to tell you what's really important.
I mean, winning a game or actually sitting there for 3-4
hours and I'm sure whether it was your wife or their
grandparents or a couple of buddies, whatever might be like
that, that's really what it's about at the end of the day.
You're not taking, you know, I'm not taking a 2009 Yankee World
Series championship to the grave.
But I will take the memories that I had during that run.
I will take the memory of being in the Stadium in 1996.
I had just graduated college and I was in the upper deck, so I
was right behind the plate, as high as you can get.
And I got there like as high up as you can get, to be clear.
And I get there at like 2 in the afternoon.
We're hitting all the bars. I mean, I'm 20, whatever I am,
and I'll never forget that I was with one of my best friends who
was in my wedding. Like that's, that's the good
stuff there. And and the losses, they really
do hurt, But without a painful loss, the prospects of a life
altering in terms of emotionally and like a bond.
They, they don't exist, you know, yet.
It's it's, it's an emotional roll of the dice.
Where is this the harsh reality of it?
Guys? The more you love something and
not just sports, but the more you love something, then the
more it's going to hurt what it's taking away.
And, and, and I'll, I'll give you a great example.
I joked around with a few of my buddies in town and you guys
know how much I love coaching, right?
I've got a couple of more years to do it.
You know, less for my son because he's playing, you know,
more and more high level stuff. More with my daughter because
she's and I don't coach those club teams that say you're
getting older and those are the teams and dad's in the stands
and go do your thing. We'll see what We'll see where
it goes, Right. Where's my daughter?
She's a year. You're 18 months younger.
Yeah. It's easier to coach rec and all
those other things. A little softball and
basketball. But I joke with some of my
friends in town, like I think this is a great parallel.
I think you guys will appreciate this.
I joke with some people in town that when my coaching days are
over, right, I am going to. I mean, I'm obviously joking.
I, I, I think like I'm going to be wandering around the ball
fields with a fungo bat and a bucket of balls looking for
somebody to coach. Like, you know, when the kids
are older and, and, and I've seen so many of the text, like
if I put some and I don't put as much out anymore because they're
getting a little bit older and let them do their own thing.
But when they were like real little, like, you know, maybe a
picture of us in the car going to T-ball, you know, first time
dad, you, you lean into all that stuff.
And I remember even then, so many people saying, dude, it
goes by so fast. Enjoy it, enjoy it, enjoy it.
Now, what does that mean about what I'm, what I'm talking about
with sports? Well, I mean, there's a lot of
people who coach and there's a lot of well-intentioned.
I'm not saying I'm a great coach.
That's not the point of this at all.
There's a lot of well-intentioned people who
devote their time and and do a good job.
I don't know that you can I don't know that you can love it
more than I actually love it. And I don't know that you can
devote more time than than I actually have already and we'll
still do to an extent. And when you love something that
much, and I do it for my kids, right?
When you love something that much, it's going to break my
heart when it's over. Like I actually believe as I'm
saying this, I'm actually, I'm getting said.
That's how much I love it. And now again, to parallel it
back to sports, when you love something the way the Bills fans
love that team and the Bears fairs Bears fans love their
team. Boy, the hurt when it's gone.
It is. It's really hard to communicate
what it feels like. But then think about the
fulfillment. And that's that's what it's
about, you know, So being irrelevant or being our having
my soul crushed. Give me the ladder any day of
the week. All right, MK Doza, what's up,
buddy? Wouldn't surprise me if Buffalo
goes goes all in for Tomlin to open the new stadium.
New ownership, new energy billionaires flex their
financial might. Financial might.
Wow. Well, are we got to see if Tom's
going to take a year off. I get the sense that he wants to
now the Buffalo job also wasn't open.
I also hope that he doesn't because, you know, once The Jets
hit the bed this year and probably go 5:00 and 12:00,
well, then I'm going to be the loudest leading the Mike Tomlin
charge or hear about The Jets getting Mike Tomlin.
So I hope he doesn't go to Buffalo.
And I I don't think that he will.
I don't know for sure, but it's been and there were a lot of
very appealing job openings that were open after the Steelers
moved on from him. It's a little different with the
contract than it was for Harbaugh.
You know, what are you going to give up the trade form and all
that stuff that that's a little tricky.
But yeah, I think that that's fairly interesting.
I, I think Dabel's going to get some run here.
I really do. And I'm not saying that I would
hire Brian Dabel. I'm not saying that.
And you'd have to get, you have to build out the rest of the
staff and and whatever. So I'm not going to get into the
weeds of who I think Dabel can bring with him.
But there is, there is synergy there between the quarterback
and and potentially new, new head coach, number one.
Number two, he knows the area and he knows ownership and I
would think he's hardly thought of.
And that's why I said this the other day, the character that
Brian Tables showed right when he called John Horribaugh and
proactively sold him on the on the building and all the
organization on, on the Mara family, on the Tisch family, on
the virtue of the New York Giants, even though they've been
sold down for so long. What a stand up move.
You don't think that that's going to I don't.
I don't think he did that just to oh, in case McDermott gets
whacked, I'll look like a good guy and maybe they'll hire me.
No, I think high character people do high character things
either when the cameras on and everybody's watching or when
nobody's watching. I, I don't think you turn
character on and off. At least I'm a staunch believer
in that. That doesn't mean you're going
to be perfect. You know, you could be
well-intentioned, you could have great character, you could try
to do right by people and mess up.
I mean, that's, it's called life.
It's going to happen. But I, I I was really impressed
by that because like, and it's one thing you know that Coughlin
well, I shouldn't say you know that conflicts that didn't end
well, but it was great that Coughlin did it.
But he's a two time champ. He's a revered member of the
giants family. Eli forget it's simple.
Hey, it's Eli, we be the giants great.
Come help us, come save us, right.
So that was easy. Others reached out as well, but
Dabel was fired before the defensive coordinator Bowen was
fired. And if there's going to be a
pettiness or a long memory, it's very easy.
Just put yourself in Dabel's shoes for a minute.
Like, wow, they kicked me out of the building when we had one
good year and I was responsible for because I was able to
resuscitate Daniel Jones and get the offense to be opportunistic
and run and blah, blah, blah, not turn the ball.
Shane didn't do a damn thing because I inherited the roster
and I had to coach him up and then he built the roster up
after that. Like the general matter who gets
hired, the general manager has very little influence on the
initial roster that he inherits. I'm not saying that there's not
like a salary cap dump, but of course the first draft pick that
you make, which by the way, was not good.
I mean, Evan Neal was horrendous and I don't think Kayvon's going
to be here forever. I I, I don't think.
But either way, there was just a really stand up move there by by
Brian Dabel. And I wouldn't be surprised if
they reach out. You're going to see a lot of
names. You see a lot of rumblings.
Yeah. What does it say here?
Yeah, I've actually. I see this myself.
I got a couple hours. Me and me and Jared both
clicking buttons there. Jared, you have precedence over
that. You know, I just saw something.
I'll get to it after this. So I coach my kids in basketball
and baseball when they were little.
Loved it. My kids are grown now, but I
look back finally at those days. But no desire to coach other
people's kids. All right.
Yeah. Yeah, I I get it.
I do understand that. Thank you very much for that.
But it's I, I listen, I get it. I mean, the reason why you, you,
you get up early and the reason why you lay the uniform out of
the reason why there's an energy if if if you're built like I am,
you know, and, and how much I love it is because you'll love
it. But but you love doing it for
and with your kids. You know, to get up at 7:00 on
a, on a whatever on a Saturday when I'm 60 years old and, you
know, coaching a bunch of kids, I don't know.
Yeah, that would that would be a little bit of a different sell
there. But the I, I, I the prospects of
teaching and connecting that doesn't change much.
This is the one I was going to get to here and I've seen this a
lot. LAN Corleone, BT love for you to
move the show to afternoon drivetime daily listener after
the after the live. Yeah, listen, the reason I
jumped out at 10 and the reason why I plan on staying here at 10
is because I'm a routine oriented person.
So I've been doing 10 AM for a bunch of years, All right, And
1st year, first boutique and then couple of years with Sal,
as you guys know. And by the way, this week is the
BT and Sal live show with Aaron Boone, which we will stream,
which is going to be an amazing night.
I cannot wait. The Vogel Theater is great.
It's going to be a really, really fun night.
And God, if, if, if let me tell you something right now, because
I already know my, my old partner, if the Mets get
Bellinger before this freaking show on Thursday, I might have
to call them sick. Because if he thinks that I'm
sitting up on that stage in front of 450 people and I'm
going to listen to him just wax on about, Oh, but shit, oh,
we're Bellinger, Soto, the whisper, Lindor King Cohen and
the Yankees got nothing. I, I, I, I might lose it like
it's OK if they get Bellinger if the Yankees don't want.
And I'll get to that after more about the not about the Yankee
Met dynamic, but more about the Bellinger thing, like the the
pursuit. But it's OK if you let Bellinger
go. Like I'm not here saying you
should go to 70 years, 190, whatever.
No, he's got a limit. He is what he is.
But if he goes to the Mets and the Yankees by Thursday do
nothing, I am going to be fit to be tied.
So as a warning to the Yankees, if they don't want to get
blasted, you know, if you're going to let Bell and you go,
that's fine, then you better immediately trade for Kwan and
trade for Peralta. You better have a lot of things
up. I mean, the slumber that the
Yankees have been in so far this offseason is mind blow.
Like, what do the Yankees do if they sign Yarborough and they
trade for Weathers? I mean, that's pretty much it.
And they gave an idiotic $22 million qualifying offer for a
center fielder that I don't even like.
That, until they do other stuff, is going to unfortunately be
hitting at the top of the lineup, which is not good for
the Yankees because he strikes out too much and he can't hit
lefties. So, you know, just for my own
sanity, Yankees, do something before I got to be there.
And for next to Sal on Thursday. Oh, man.
And let me ask you something here, so as I render my verdict
on irrelevance or torturous next level, deepest level pain fandom
hurt, You know my answer. Give me the hurt.
Give me the pain because it means that my team's moving in
the right direction. And eventually, like all
unkillables do, there's a regeneration.
You get back, you get the you get the bounce back in your
step. You start on who do, who we're
going to hire as the coach. All right, Who we going to
draft? What do we need?
But really, the way some of these games ended with some of
these calls is just unacceptable.
I've got a question for you, by the way, Jared's Jared still has
a job. He's doing a good job.
I get Colt in the other room on on lock.
So if Jared messes up, we can the first show could be his last
one. Can you be?
This is just a general question that I'm going to ask.
And then I'm going to hang out there for two or three seconds,
let it let it marinate for a moment.
And I want to get into this and the impetus behind this topic to
craft this conversation is about Josh Allen.
All right, largely about Josh, but also tying in Aaron Judge.
And the question is very simple. Can you be an all time great
without a ring? Can you be considered to be one
of the I don't mean a Hall of Famer, that's obvious.
Like doings in the Hall of Fame, Barclays in the Hall of Fame,
Stockton, no doubt. I'm talking about when you sit
down and you have a conversation, whether it's on a
show like this or at the bar or on the golf course or whatever
it might be, when you have your sports debates that I know that
you have. Can you be an old timer without
the championship validation? Let it sitting out there for a
SEC. Can you now my answer is that it
depends on the sport. Like you can obviously be an all
time top of the list great baseball player without a
championship. You can be because there's too
many external factors. There's just too many things
that you can't control. You know, I mean, now Aaron
Judge has had a, a weaker post season profile over the last
year was different then he's had a stronger 1 like you cracked
through a year ago. And hopefully that's a
foreshadow of the next couple of years.
If the Yankees get back, if they don't do anything in the next
couple of weeks, I don't even know if they're going to get
back. But like Judge and his, his
quest for a championship is different than say when LeBron
was hunted #1 or Magic and Bird were doing their thing.
Because the influence of the basketball players just so, so
much greater than a baseball players We all know now.
I find that it and I was just John down.
Listen, no rhyme or reason. If you said to me, I want to I
want to throw 2. I don't want to get too listed
because it's a lot. So I'll try to minimize him, but
I'm going to give you, you know, no well, the first couple will
be in order 789 NBA players and then 789 quarterbacks.
All right, obviously to me, MJ's to go NBA, no doubt.
MJ Kareem's number two. I'm putting LeBron 3, you know,
Bird, Magic 4-5 ish. Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Shaq,
Duncan, Steph Hakeem. That's kind of the list, right?
You want to throw in an Oscar Robertson?
I wrote down Jerry West as well, who won a ton of the as, as an
executive one, as a as a player. And I know that that haunted him
forever. But the ring culture has changed
how we perceive all these athletes, right?
There is, and I guess on some level there should be a stark
separation between somebody, yes, for sure, Jordan and Ewing
or Jordan and Barkley. But are you telling me as now I
get to the NFL list that there is such a difference between say
a Brett Favre who's got one or an Aaron Rodgers who has one
versus Josh Allen 10/12/15 years down the road?
And if there is, the next question is, is that right?
Should that be the case? Now, I, I think you could very
easily say no. And listen, I'm not talking
about Tom Brady's got 7 or Montana, Montana's got 4 or
Peyton's got a couple or Mahomes who has three.
Like I look at the quarterback list and for me it's Brady,
Montana, it's Peyton, it's Mahomes.
After that, you want to throw a little love to Unitus and Elway
Moreno and I'll get back to him because he, he has none.
And the farms, the Rogers, you know, the Steve Young's who's
got a couple. Bradshaw, who I never saw play
in his prime, he's got 4. Staubach's got 2.
But Staubach served obviously came over at the age of 2829,
would have had more. Tarkenton went to, I believe it
was 4 Super Bowls that are in the 70s with Minnesota.
Never won, but all time great. So somebody like Josh Allen, who
based on the circumstances of some horrendous officiating, his
season's over, all right now. Unfortunately, what happens is
that the details get lost in the laundry.
So now as lazy people, uninformed people, people who
really just like to scream and shout but don't really know what
they're talking about and really don't really care about sports
the way we do, or at least most of us do, they will parachute
in. Let's say it's 12 years from
now. Josh is retiring.
All right, We're now he's on the back end.
And the Bills are horrendous and they're nowhere near a
championship window shut. No championships you'll hear on
if they're still debate shows at that point right on TV, who
knows anything, it'll be on TV at that point.
Conventionally, probably not. And you will hear people
parachute in. Oh, can't be an old time.
Great. It's got no rings.
And I think, I think that that is the height of laziness.
I really can't stand that. There's no, there's no subtext
there. There's no substance, there's no
depth, there's no intelligence. It's such a lazy statement and
it's lazy frustrating because it's really you can't refute
that that fact like that is a fact that Dan Marino no
championships. I can't be as good as Joe
Montana. Let me ask you something.
Now I know that Joe was clutch and Joe was amazing. 4 Super
Bowls, four wins, never lost. I got it.
West Coast offense innovator Walsh, Jerry Rice.
We know. Are you trying to tell me that
if Dan Marino played for Bill Walsh, you know, and had that
crew and Dan Marino's thrown to Jerry Rice, that Dan Marino has
no championships? Are you trying to tell me that?
So it's just basically the presence literally of a ring of
an object that's so quickly elevates or or in the case of
precipitously drops in the minds of some of you, the totality.
Of one's career. I think that that's I think that
that's so inherently weak. Robert Huertas, what up, Rob?
Big fan. He's been checking it a lot.
I appreciate it. All right, BT is a Jets fan.
I think these two years with the picks we have is a make and
break for the franchise more than any other season in our
history. Do you agree?
Yeah. I, I, I, I kind of do.
I want to do a lot more of that. Robert, I appreciate you hitting
me up with that. No doubt.
We've already kind of gotten into and bothers a couple of
players. Certainly won in in terms of
Miami tonight for and I'll give you a thought on the national
championship before we bounce. But you know, I mean is is is
Bane worthy of going? You know, I I don't know if I'd
take them to some might. But you know, if The Jets trade
out, they can get him to get the edge rusher.
I mean, this little window here. I don't know that The Jets have
the right coach. I do believe that The Jets have
the right general manager. So I feel pretty emboldened,
even though The Jets are unwatchably and unspeakably
without a shred of entertainment value and a shred of intrigue
during the games this year. You know, once you got past the
halfway point and they and they made the trades.
But like this, this army of draft equity, if it doesn't
propel The Jets, I mean that it. Eventually, I don't mean any
year that. It really just might be time to
to close up shop because that might be the, that might be a
wrap. There might be nothing else to
say at that point, but I do. Robert, I'm with you.
I do think it represents, you know, to maybe to be a prisoner
of the moment. Do I want to say the most?
I mean, it's a little hyperbolic for me because remember The Jets
when The Jets traded Keyshawn, The Jets had four first round
picks in 2000. They took a quarterback in Chad
Pennington. They took a tight end That
didn't really work out. He's good on the games.
And Beck was fine as a tight end, but he wasn't, he wasn't a
matchup problem. Anthony Beck.
And I liked him coming out of West Virginia.
I really liked him. And then of course, they picked
Abraham and Sean Elvis, who changed the complexity of their
defense. And obviously The Jets had some
really competitive years with Herman and some other coaches.
So yes, this is going to really set them up to be either, you
know, relevant or invisible like they have been.
So let me give you another thing about Josh and his whole
ringless and and ring culture, which is just too bottom line
for me. I think it just lacks too much
nuance and and and it bothers me, right?
But let's just say Josh Allen hit you with some numbers here,
right? So he's already got the.
MVP, so he can't say. That like P and I know Eli is
not a knocking Eli, it's just an example to keep the conversation
going. Like people, to me, they, they
take issue when I try to place Eli in the proper tier.
So hear this first. Yes, he's a Hall of Famer.
Yes, he's going to go in. Of course he's going to be in
the Hall of Fame and he should be because he made some of the
most clutch throws against iconic teams, coaches, players
beat Brady. Of course he's a Hall of Famer.
That does not mean that Eli during the regular season over
his basically 20 year career was really ever not, let alone not
even consistently ever really among the best 2-3 quarterbacks
for in football. I mean, you're watching Brady,
you're watching Drew Brees, you're watching these guys
slinging Matt Ryan won an MVP. You look at these guys put up
these sick numbers and and I know in terms of the the
ultimate accomplishment, yards, touchdowns, Eli's there
understood. But like, you know when you were
betting or when you were doing your fantasy drafts back then,
were you running to take Eli? The answer is no.
Now, if Eli's your quarterback of your team, you think you got
a chance to win because he's durable, he's reliable, he's
emotionally reliable, he's tough, he's clutch.
I'm not trying to denigrate Eli, but I do think it's really
interesting how somebody like Eli Manning, who's got 2
championships and let's say Josh.
Wins none, you tell. Me who's been like the better
quarterback for the moment they stepped in the league.
I don't even think it's close. It's Josh Hellman and it's like
the the ultimate achievements that that bottom line
accomplishment, which is dependent upon so many things.
Do you have a good GM? Do you have good ownership?
Do you have a good old line? Do you have a good defense?
You know, are you lucky in terms of injuries?
You know, are you the beneficiary of of a favorable
call or do you get screwed by a shit call, which we've seen many
times, including this weekend. So there are a lot of variables
there. But now, again, just to finish
the thought, let's push it forward 10/12/15 years Josh
Allen either at the end or retired.
So right now he's got 220 touchdowns.
He's got 30,000 yards. He's already got 5000 rushing
yards. He already got 79 rushing
touchdowns, which is by far the most in the end in NFL history.
I know the game's changed a lot. So you've got a, you've got to,
you know, incorporate that to the evaluation.
But Josh Allen is an absolute monster now.
He's got a lot of football to go and the rules of the game will
allow him to play for a long time.
He's a big, strong, fast, dedicated quarterback who knock
on wood is going to be playing for another 10 years and is
going to be incredibly like relevant in terms of MVPS and
being on the upper echelon of quarterbacks for at least six or
seven. And I think that that's being
conservative, right. So I say all that and now I push
it forward statistically, you know, there is AI was doing the
numbers before the show. There is a good chance that if
you just, I'm just doubling, it's a simple math, but then
I'll contextualize it. If he goes from 220 touchdowns
to 4:40, that is sixth in NFL history just throwing.
If he goes from 30,000 yards and you double it, it's 60,000
yards, which would be obviously I think it's like 9 or 10 or so,
right? And then obviously at that point
he's over 10,000 yards. Tink he's got 10,000 yards as a
running back and you're going to Josh Allen is going to have more
yards running than tiki and some great running backs in NFL
history. Not to mention that at that
point you have it. You know if if he double s the
rushing touchdowns 160 rushing touchdowns now are you trying to
tell me and I know he didn't play well he made some
horrendous throws in that game just didn't see things I'm like
how did you not see that? How did you throw that?
How did you do that? I'm not defending his
performance this weekend. He fucked all right, but what
are the Buffalo Bills without him?
Do the Bills have a slew of great receivers?
You know, like not this year, but like Mahomes had for a
couple of years, you know, got a couple of reliable tight ends.
You've got a good running back. You've got a lot of injuries.
You you lost Stefan Biggs how Biggs look over the weekend
pretty good. How did he do?
It's just there's just, I don't take this the wrong way, but
there's just a lot of stupid, stupid, baseless opinions that
more and more coming from people who don't know what the hell
they're talking about. And I, you know, I, I can't let
that happen, at least on my show, you know, I'm going to
have to fight back against those people because a lot of those
peoples, a lot of those people either didn't play and listen,
it doesn't matter. Like, oh, you didn't play in the
pros. I know I'm not even talking
about me. But if you played something,
even if you were just a really good high school player, like a
good player and a good program, you like you went through the
rigors of training. And I say that because I think
if you, and then obviously next level will be college,
especially if it's D1. And then maybe if you bounced
around the minors, whatever it might be, or played overseas in
basketball or even football. Now to me, you just have a
deeper understanding and a deeper appreciation of what you
can and what you cannot control. Like that's why I say I'm not
saying I'm smarter than people. Some people I'm not saying I I
love sports more than some some I do some I don't, you know,
like if the Yankees lose a regular season game, All right,
I mean, I don't love it, but good night.
I'm going to bed. I got two kids.
I got a wife seen in the morning.
Let's go, let's do it again. Hit, you know, reboot.
Come on, 162. And and this is not a knock.
This is just a different level of fandom.
When the Mets lose a tough game, Eric, Eric Evan is cranking up
the the show, the Rico, He's doing an hour and a half recap
like like it was Game 6 or game seven playoff series.
And I appreciate that. I respect that.
That's just not me, not at this stage, not for a regular season
game. But I do think that if you
played, you understand that it's really hard to be great.
And I think too often greatness is stretched within the
boundaries. Like like this guy may have been
really good, but great. No, no, like you can't have 9
great quarterbacks currently playing.
You can't. You could have your top ten
list, but but there's got to be a pecking order of all right,
once you get past, you know, on the Holmes A staffer who's going
to win the MVP. You know, a Burrow when he's got
some some defense around them playing meaningful games.
Josh Allen, Lamar, when he's healthy, he's got his act
together. Like there's there's some that
I'll and maybe one or two others clearly, but there's some who
are great and there's others who are good and this notion, this
nonsense just because he played all and he played terribly.
I mean, Josh Allen was bad, man, but to think that that's going
to reposition him in my mind as a guy who was like, not great.
No way would you bet on Josh Allen to bounce back or to or to
or to crumble further. I know my answer, you know.
And it's it's it's I. Think it started with the ring
culture I. Really.
Do I? Think it started with LeBron and
I'm not even you know, I'm not a big LeBron James fan and this
isn't even a knock. I'm just saying I'm not a big
fan at all. I think he's incredibly
arrogant. I think he's a little delusional
with certain thing can't shine Jordan shoes.
I think he's so wrapped up in himself.
Like I don't know, he just turns me off.
Not to mention like jumping into some really important things
over the years without having all the facts.
Not a big LeBron James fan not but he's an amazing player.
But would he be viewed as the amazing player, the statistics
aside? Because Josh Allen's going to
have all those stats if he didn't, if he didn't go ring
chasing, like if he stayed with the Cavs, like Josh Allen in all
probability will stay with the Bills.
And let's say Josh has none and Lebron's got 4 unless he gets
one more or he doesn't. Either way.
Like, think about what LeBron had to do to get those Now, you
know, All right, that's the modern NBA.
And it's, it's not illegal in the sense of, you know, doing it
the old fashioned way. Maybe for some it's immoral.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, I'm stretching the boundaries on that word,
obviously, But you know what I mean?
I just, I've always been a guy that respects the grind more.
And even if the grind falls short, like Patrick Ewing, I
know it's so long ago at this point, but he's my guy.
So that's one of my points and references, right?
A guy like Ewing who is just willing and Nick team with no
true star next to him, you know, going up against Jordan and
Pippen and Rodman and one of the best coaches of all time.
And obviously he had Pat, but he didn't have Pat for his entire
career, you know, So I tend to place more value in the the
great player who elevates an average team or slightly above
average to to a height that they probably shouldn't be at.
Then somebody like I'm not saying Pat's better than LeBron,
but almost like more respect, just personal respect than
somebody who is in one situation, views another
situation as a quicker shortcut, like basically the circumvent
some of the arduous things that you got to do to be a champion.
Jump in. Let me get Bosh.
Let me go with my boy Wade. Let me win a couple now let me
go with Anthony Davis, win one in the bubble.
And people say I'm better than Jordan.
Why yes, better than Jordan. What better than Jordan stop.
And I, I think there's a lot of people that do miss the mark
because the championship, the ring has been so centralized.
And I think there's just a lot of lazy opinions out there.
Guys, are I really doing a lot of lot of lot of opinions I
don't respect, I don't subscribe to, I really don't engage in
because I think, I think it's if you try to have that debate with
somebody who is all about the rings, you want to talk about
being frustrated. I mean, yeah.
But I, I, I can't, I'm not here to change your mind, just like
I'm not here to change your mind about politics.
Like if you believe what you believe, well, then you believe
what you believe. And some people are open minded,
which and those are the people that you can have a political
discourse with. You know, they're not coming at
you with 9000 copy points, both sides, by the way, where they
just hammer you over the head. They don't listen to a word you
say. And as soon as you finish your
last syllable, they pound you with the five things that they
believe is wrong with your guy or your party or your opinion or
your view, whatever. And a lot of it guys kind of the
same in sports. It's not time for it.
I think it's it's lazy. So I mean Aaron Rodgers, who I
think is. Probably the most pure thrower
of the football, maybe the most pure quarterback ever.
Marino had more zip. Montana never lost.
Brady's the GOAT in terms of achievement.
I I think if you're looking at the conveyor belt for
quarterbacks, to me, Aaron Rodgers is the best smart, can
throw, can run accuracy, played a long time, but he's only got
1. So you try to tell me that guys
who have more, you know, I mean, is, was that way really better
from A to I know Elway was amazing.
Interesting example to use because he was amazing like A-Z
was Elway truly better than Rodgers?
I don't know about that. How about this MK Adoza was
Jordan the greatest of all time in his first seven years?
He was ringless. No, but I don't know that
anybody's anointed the greatest of all time during their first
567 years. I think that that comes now
Mahomes a little bit a little different because longevity in
football is, is different than basketball.
Certainly baseball, certainly basketball now we play forever.
If you, you know, you avoid real injuries, games different.
Whereas with the with the baseball too, you know, I mean,
if you come up early and you know, and you and you have
health, like Jeter play a little time.
Mike Trout's been banged up a lot.
So that resume is going to look very different.
Aaron Judge came up late because he played in college.
That resume is going to look a little different, probably fall
short of some of the old time greats.
And when I say old time greats, I'm talking about Ruth and and
Garrick's a little different with some of the RBI totals.
But or Ruth and Aaron unusual like a Ted Williams, he's going
to fall a little bit short in some of those benchmark
departments. But are you telling me that if
I'm sitting in the grandstand in 1920, whatever and I'm watching
Babe Ruth play, that Babe Ruth was better than Aaron Judge?
You could tell me that I'm I'm I'm not buying it.
I'm not believing it. But if Aaron Judge finishes with
no rings, all the dissenting voices and all the detractors
never going to ring, drop the pop up in the World Series.
I know, I know I just placed a little more value on on the
entire spectrum of 1's career. And I think with that that last
text there with with Jordan. I know this going.
Find it on YouTube because I've done it in the past.
It's awesome. Go and find a clip from Bobby
Knight. I'm not even a fan of Bobby
Knight. I thought Bobby Knight was
actually a pompous ass. Some of the things he said to
female reporters. Not a fan at all.
Actually a jerk and but a great coach.
And he said it was after the 84, I think it was the IT was, well,
the Olympics, but all like the Olympic trials, like Mullen was
there, Saint John's, MJ was there.
I think like Perkins and and maybe what was worthy there, Sam
Perkins was there. Steve Allford from Indiana
played for coach Knight. Anyway, Bobby Knight said this
before Jordan was even in the NBA.
He's the greatest player he's ever seen.
And Bobby Knight was not one for hyperbole or showering people
with unnecessary praise. He didn't even praise Steve
Alford, his own guy who was a sharpshooter and one of the
great college players, you know, maybe ever.
Steve Alford. I mean, he threw around praise
like, you know, you can throw around a manhole cover.
You just can't move it much. So I I get it's a good, it's a
good point. We weren't sitting here saying,
oh, Jordan's the GOAT five years in.
But we also didn't have GOAT conversations.
I didn't once, not once, not once in my entire childhood did
I have a debate with anybody about like I, I never heard the,
the acronym GOAT, like it just it's fairly recent really.
And again, it's basically from LeBron and then MJ, the
championships and all that. And now the quarterback he,
Payton was, was feeling this like, come on, you better win,
right? Better win #2 Aaron Rodgers.
Hey, you going to win #2 Like to validate that, you have to
validate anything. I watch Aaron Rodgers play.
I watch him play Cal. I watched him play after 4 was
gone and he took over. And I watched Sunday night game
after Monday night game after 425 game his entire career when
he was at his prime. And I have never seen anybody
play the position better than Aaron Rodgers.
But you'll have people who jump in, oh, Montana's got 4, he's
better. What?
No, he's not. I don't even think Tom Brady was
better than Aaron Rodgers. But yeah, obviously there's a
statistical GOAT and an accumulation GOAT, and then
there's there's other interpretations.
It's just frustrating, man. It really is.
And you know, somebody like Terry Bradshaw who you know, you
look up, I know it's a very different NFL and I don't want
to even go back that far because it's, it's not even applicable
at this point. But you look at Terry Bradshaw's
first couple of years, I think Terry's first year, I think he
had like 6 touchdowns and 21 picks, something like that.
Something crazy where they were saying in Pittsburgh, where I'm
not saying this, where they were saying he was stupid and he was
dumb and he couldn't handle the playbook.
Not smart enough to to digest the playbook at the NFL level.
They were calling him an idiot. Like that was the word on the
street. Terry Bradshaw not smart and he.
Won four championships, but like, is he winning anything
without me and Joe Green and that great defense with Chuck
Knoll? I'm not saying he never made any
clutch throws here, but like, Brad Shows got 4.
Josh Allen might have none. And you want to tell me that
Brad Shows better than Josh Allen?
Not by Matt, not by my measurement, None.
Would you agree with that? I go mji.
Go Kareem, I go LeBron, I go Bird.
I go Magic. Those are my top five, right?
Just to quickly encapsulate that.
And then I would go and I usually do Brady 1, Montana 2.
You know, if Mahomes didn't get. Hurt in the last couple of
years, the numbers have been a little, little, little lean
statistically, but I I'll still say Peyton 3, Mahomes 4.
And then that fifth spot is obviously up for interpretation,
you know? But the slander of some of these
players is absolutely. Insane.
I don't get it. All right, let me give you a
little baseball vote here. Get those.
Get those texts coming here, Jared doing a good job putting
them up. If you want to jump in a little
bit easier to see the Super chats, I'll read them.
Listen, by the way, the beautiful thing about this too
is that less than you want to be is all over the map.
But this is going to be more free flowing.
I'm going to come in every day with three or four things I want
to hit. I'm going to give you something.
Hopefully I'm going to give you something that's compelling,
something to react to. Very like without that, you've
got no show. It's not like me coming in and
throwing out a phone number and taking numbers because the
phone's not even set up yet. Which it will be.
And that will be Jared's job to answer them.
And by the way, to figure out how to actually hook it up.
We bought the number. The rest is on Jared.
Jared, you got to get that thing going.
So I take a lot of pride in in having several things that you
are ready to engage in, react to whether you would disagree or
agree. It's it's it's really
irrelevant. Just something that sparks
thought sparks intelligent conversation.
All right, But I am totally OK with taking a quick side turn,
whether it's a story, you know, I got a ton of crazy stories.
Some I can tell, some I can, but I'll I'll tell someones that I
couldn't even tell on the radio overtime.
I promise you it's got to make sure the kids are in school.
If I can't say any today. And I think it's fun to be able
to bounce around a little bit. I think it's it's a freedom and
it's it's a latitude that I have here that you don't necessarily
have doing, you know, conventional terrestrial radio
where you're again, you're beholden to a clock and and just
different things. So this is this is this fun at
at telly lot 77 growing up. Yes, that's true, absolutely
true. That's a great point.
Man, I I forgot about that. Growing up being the GOAT was
actually considered a bad thing. It means you choked.
I remember. Oh God, who was the elders not
nodding? Who was the illustrator?
The in in the newspapers and the Daily News growing up, like when
the Yanks and probably really more the Mets because the Mets
were in the playoffs more 8688. I didn't see the Yankees in the
playoffs until 95. Really.
I remember 8181 and then 95, as I've said, and after a bad game,
like if a pitcher got rocked, you get the goat horns.
Yeah, go to the game. That is true.
Talk about completely flipping the absolute meaning of that.
Oh, my good God. Wow.
That is true. That is absolutely true.
The goat horn. You did not want to get the goat
horns. Now it's all about being the
GOAT. Yeah.
Joseph Mehring. What up?
BT God bless, bro. Much love for Marine Park.
That is my hometown. Thank you very much, dude.
I appreciate that you didn't have to do that, man.
That's that's completely unnecessary.
But I certainly appreciate it. And Marine Park is still holding
up, man. I don't.
You know, it's funny. I don't go back home much
anymore only because it's easier for my parents to come here
because we have more room and they've got, you know, in the
basement, they've got basically a bedroom and a shower and it's
just a little more space. But what a great place to grow
up. Look, great play.
There was always a game on the street.
Ton of athletes, you know, ton of good teams, you know, parents
were all invested and and watching after each other.
It was just different. I mean not just Marine Park, but
like growing up in the 80s and into the 90s in high school.
You got to do whatever you want, like you had to, really.
Be sloppy to get caught doing something.
You know what? I got a funny story for you.
I got 1 before. I was just thinking about this,
right? So now my dad, as you know, is
retired detective, didn't miss anything.
Now, at this point, he made the transition to the business
sector, right? Suit and tie, owned his own
business. And that's why we went from like
cars that were like 12 years old that you hope weren't going to
break down on the side of the road like the Impala, whatever
it was, you know, and rolling windows down to suddenly we got
a new car. Things changed, right?
So I remember, man, I didn't even have my license yet.
God, what an idiotic move on my part.
And I know he's watching. If my son or daughter ever did
this day, it would be the that would be it.
Like you, just I. I can't.
I wanted. To go get a haircut, right?
And my dad left, he always left the car there cuz he would take
the train into into New York City.
I like. I was with my buddy Pat.
And Timmy and we go to Ginger Rose Haircut by Sheepshead Bay.
The diner used to be their great haircuts.
Matter of fact, I don't know if it's there anymore.
And even if it is, it doesn't matter.
I don't have any hair. But like they would give great
flat tops and all like the lines in your head.
And in the, in the late 80s, early 90s when everybody was
doing that, they were phenomenal.
And the owner, one of the owners was from Astor Place in
Manhattan, which is the 1st place I used to go to.
I remember my freshman year in high school, a couple of us from
the basketball team would go and get like really cool haircuts
for basketball. Anyway, so we go there and I
want to go get a haircut. So I take the car and I have a
license. So my dad comes.
How brazen is that? Wouldn't it?
Now? I did.
I'm not thinking about the legal ramifications.
Thank God. God was on my side at that
point. But I'm 16 years old and I'm not
really thinking. So take the car and and I didn't
get caught, but I guess I parked it again.
Detective Roots, he sees the cars maybe up 9 inches from
where he left it from the night before.
Now he didn't think that I would, that I would do that,
that I would like have the stones to do that.
And somehow I did. So he comes in and he's
incredulous. And when my dad was mad, there
was like, it was, I was scared shit.
I've always said like in a good way, like in a respectful way,
in a fearful way. Great guy.
You heard him on The Fan. Amazing guy.
My last show, Great, great person sit there, watch the
Knicks in the basement, watch baseball.
Like he didn't care if it was school and it was respect if I
was disrespectful to my mom, which was almost never because I
learned my lesson early, or my sister, that was it.
Or if I really messed up in school, that was it.
Everything else, he really, he was just like, yeah, you're a
kid. Do you think so?
He comes home and he's like, did you take the car today?
Like I couldn't believe that I would do it.
I'm like, no, there's no way. Why would I do the car?
No. So he's like, all right.
He's like I, you know, and he believed me.
And usually when I was lying, he didn't believe me.
He bought that. 1 So I said to. Myself, I go, well that was
easy, I guess I'll take it again like 2 days, whatever it was.
So I do it again. Now the tone completely changes.
He goes, Did you take the car today?
Like it went from you didn't take the car, did it to what I
just said, no, there's no way. Why do you keep asking me this?
Well, I didn't no. The next day or it was either
like the next day or two days after that, he took a piece of
chalk and he on one of the tires, one of the front tires
made a white line small like I couldn't see it.
So that when I took the car again, which I did, if it wasn't
parked right on the white line, which he made, then that was the
answer. And let's just say that he got
the answer very quick. And BT had a rough couple of
weeks there. But no, that's where he parked
for it. That's, that's kind of the 80s
nineties. You push the envelope.
But thank you for reaching out, man.
So the, the Bellinger stuff here very quickly on the on the, on
the Yanks and the Mets. Listen, I mean, I understand
that the Yankees haven't done a damn thing.
And I understand I really like what the Mets did with Beau
Bichette. Matter of fact, I identified
Beau Bichette as a better fit for the Mets.
And I wasn't alone. I'm not trying to say I was the
only one who thought this because a lot of people felt
that, you know, Tucker, does he love baseball and hearing some
weird things out of Chicago, Is he all in and what kind of deal
you're going to give him in? There's not a great fit
defensively with soda, whatever, somebody's going to have to
switch position. So there were some interesting
conversations about him at that point and and I or I just
thought Bichette would be better.
I thought, you know, short term, he's not going to get the 9 or
10 years which Toronto offered him at that point, right?
And he and he turned it down. So short term.
Now you got to figure things, some things out.
Obviously Detroit, Beatty, whatever you do, but I just
thought a righty stick. I mean, you look at it, Lindor
1, Bichette 2, Soto 3. It's great.
It's a very now they got a lot more to do pitching whatever and
you see what maybe you trade Beatty, maybe you get Peralta,
maybe he's involved in that. Maybe the spro whatever to
school ball. I I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen.
But the Mets I do not believe believe we're done.
We know the Yankees are done with their negotiations on Cody
Bellinger. And, you know, I'm able, some
are, and I'm able to totally separate my thoughts about the
Yankees and my thoughts about the Mets.
And my thoughts about the Yankees is more personal at this
point. I am with the Yankees in terms
of not not upping that a dime. I don't think he's that good.
Like, for the more. Oh, we're getting desperate.
Oh, we didn't get this guy. Oh, my God, what are we going to
do? All right, we only want to go 5
for 160. You know what?
Oh, God, what are we, 7 for 175 with 190?
Here you go, Boris. We genuflect to you.
No way. Like Bellinger to me is a really
good player who fits the Yankees really well and seemingly had a
really good time in the Bronx. And I hope he stays and you
know, with the opt outs and the creative language in terms of
the maybe heftier bonus, hopefully it doesn't incentivize
him soon to sign a contract with the Yankees.
And now from that point, you will merely be where you were a
year ago, not necessarily taking a step forward.
And this is becoming one of the main issues with the Yankees.
Like, you get to the World Series with Soda now.
They tried to, I mean, they offered him a ton of money.
Wanted to be a Met. That's fine.
Took the most money. Mets made concessions.
Soda went there. I don't care.
Move on. I wanted him to stay.
He's not here. I'm not going to cry about it.
I stopped immediately, Right. He's a hell of a hitter.
He left the Yankees. I can process that.
I'm a big boy, but they didn't get better like they so they
lost Soto and they brought in Belgium and I like to pivot
defensively and I thought Devin Williams will be better.
All the things we talked about, right, but the pivot did not add
to what they were the year before.
The pivot mere merely gave them a chance to get back to which
they didn't because they didn't get to the World Series what
they were the year before. So now you look at that you say
well OK, let's say if Bellinger goes to the Mets or let's say if
Bellinger now let's say I mean Toronto's not going to get 10
years, but let's say if they come eight with two two change,
whatever my let's go. I mean, 40 * 8 is there's no way
that one's getting $320 million, but 290 / 8 or 270 and he's
like, Yep, I'm taking going to Toronto.
Well, the Yankees will have another offseason where they
lost somebody of significance and were unable or unwilling or
a combination of both to add to it.
That's not how you win a World Series.
The way you win a World Series is you put your best foot
forward. You see what you have, you see
where the deficiencies are and then you add to them.
You don't you don't you don't lose and then Ed merely get to
get back to where you were. And that's the problem with the
Yankees last couple of off seasons here.
I know they've got some young guys that want to further
evaluate. We've gone over this a million,
a million a million a million ways sideways a million.
I do think the Yankees pitching is going to be phenomenal.
I do think right when it's all said and done and healthy call
back etcetera rolled on, they slip.
There's going to be a be a beast.
I think they might get Peralta. You know, even the kid Weathers
throws 97 is a lefty and he's thought that really good stuff.
81st percentile Major League Baseball fastball.
So they got to get the bullpen straight.
They got to get another righty stick, which why I wanted them
to get Bichette. The point is, though, if the
Mets get Bellinger, I will and it and it's they're not going to
get him for 5/1/60. They're going to have to go more
terms, more AAV. And if they do that, Congrats to
the Mets. I'm not going to, hey, if you
can lose Soto and still make the playoffs, right, you can't lose
Bellinger. And and now I'm not saying that
that's way to win a championship, but the the the
level of distraught that would permeate the Yankee fan base,
which is already in a very delicate spot emotionally.
You will not hear that from me. I'm not wasting any energy
getting on this YouTube show. BT Unleashed ranting and raving
and crying and sounded like a, you know, like a distraught
loser. Oh, it's over.
I mean, is Bellinger, when you really think, is he really that
good? Now there's two different
things. Do you fit a team well, which he
does. Is he a star?
He's not. I mean, there's 15/18/20 players
in baseball better than Bellinger.
Again, the fit is appealing, the versatility is appealing.
But I'm actually, I got the Yankees back on this and I have
not had the Yankees back on much last.
I've been all over Cashman. I've been all over on the way
they don't develop their position players.
I've been rightfully so. I believe my opinions on the
Yankees have been fully justified.
Nothing unfair, nothing over the top, real raw on point and
they've earned it. Now.
I've also given them certain respects that I think that
they've earned that others failed to give them.
I, I, I can't control what others say.
I'm telling you what I see and then I'm saying what I say and
I'll be fine. Like, if he doesn't want to be
here, then just that's it. If if you're that much about,
you know, Boris just holding you by the nose and pulling you
around like a six year old, you know, at some point you got to
realize you are in control. You're in control now.
I don't have an agent right now by design.
That was my decision couple of years ago.
I had one for about 15 years. Great relationship, really good
guy, really good at his job, was at my wedding right love for him
to this day, but the. Business was changing.
I made the. Decision for myself and now I
represent myself right and there were points where, you know,
whether it was ATV show that I was doing or the discovery show
that I did for a year when I went out there and I shot man
versus bear talking about like non radio stuff.
But even the radio stuff where like if I didn't like the way it
was going, I would say get this done.
You know, stop. Don't even you know what?
Stop asking for that. They're getting pissed off.
We push them as much as we can. I like it here.
I'm happy, I'm making good money, I'm successful.
I've been here for a while. Just get it done.
And and that's that's the power of the talent.
That's the power of the player. Like, I don't understand how
some of these guys lose sight of that.
I don't, I I lose respect for it.
And I don't mean about chasing money.
Like, yeah, it's, it's it's a capitalistic society and they're
giving away a lot of money these days.
I mean, you know, the money that that the Mets gave Michette,
it's a lot of money. I agree with it because I think
it fits where they are, that that's a good economic model for
an owner that has the affluence that Cohen has.
So he can, he can swallow that money.
It's fine. All right.
Less palatable for the Yankees. Number one, they don't want to
do it #2 they don't have as much money as Cohen.
So I can still make the case. You should, but I'm not going to
make that now to just further derail it and, and morphing and
nine other things like just do you want to be somewhere?
Tell them, get it done. It's almost February.
And one thing that I don't understand, I know that you.
Could do multiple things at once.
I get that, but like if I was a Major League Baseball player, I
don't care how much money I have.
What what, what's Bellinger have?
I mean, I can look it up, but I'm not what do you think he's
got in the bank? I don't know, $110 million?
I mean, not literally. He doesn't take out $100 at the
ATM and spits back one 1000 and 10 million.
You've got to tie it up and, and, and obviously investments
and stuff like that. Clearly you're not going to have
it in your checking account, but you are.
You are beholden to you and and I feel like too many of these,
particularly Boris clients lose sight of that.
Like he lets them really where they let him, I should say,
really just dictate the tone of their entire winter where Hey,
you love playing with Aaron Judge.
You know, the Yankees wanted you back.
This thing could have been signed a month ago.
I I could have enjoyed Christmas without without taking calls and
getting on zooms and wondering, well, where am I going to live
next year? Am I going to have to rent?
Am I going to move if I am going to be a Yankee long term?
Am I going to go to Alpine? Am I going to go to Connecticut
where Boone is? I I don't know, but I'd like to
know and I do. I do think it's a little tricky,
no matter how much money you have to focus on getting ready
for a season when you don't know where you're going to be.
And to me, that would that is not something that I would want.
I even know how I get like I get a million times of a smaller
scale, but I know how I am like when I've got these little
windows of all right, I've got to go and coach or I've got to
go and do a St. John's game.
And I've obviously the radio show back in the day, this show
now, which I'm 100% committed to obviously every day at 10 here
and all these other things I might have to do, go to campus,
you know, film the TV show with Rick, whatever it might be,
right? And I'm like, all right, I got
an hour and a half. I could get the work out it like
it's on your mind, like juggling things mentally.
Not that you can't do it. You've got to learn to do it as
an adult, as a dad, as a provider, as a professional, but
it's a whole hell of a lot easier when everything's lined
out and lined up and you know what your schedule is.
I would not want to be Bellinger right now as we approach the
basically January 20th, not knowing what the hell I'm doing.
I don't understand that. So I mean, I don't know how much
longer this drags on. I think he's going to be a
Yankee. He could be a met.
I don't think like the Giants who was one of those teams
jumping last second. I would not rule out Toronto.
And by the way, if he goes to Toronto, he's going to be a
great fit. But enough is enough.
And it really just it takes away forget about what team to root
for it. It's really a disservice to the
game. It just drags on and on.
There's no resolution, whereas with and that's you got to have
that collectively bargained, obviously, but that's why you
get the juice with, you know, NBAI, where's Durant going?
You know, it's an hour. It's it's a minute into free
agency. What do we got?
All right, where, where what's going on?
Where's LeBron going, where's Bosch going?
Where's Wade, Where's Amari going back in the day?
What's happening? It's fun.
It like you, you get a chance to own the news cycle pertaining to
sports for a couple of days. Whereas with Major League
Baseball, it's like, you know, I get get around to it.
I don't mean us because we love it, but you know, I they they've
got to really find a way to better position the sport
because the marketing aspect and and all the other things that I
think baseball lags behind woefully in something.
Some things they can control, some they can't.
To be fair to Major League Baseball, like I think there's
some inherent disadvantages with baseball, but being able to cash
in and capitalize on, you know, instead of a two or three month,
you know, driven drab announcement here and there.
You know, you got to find a way to package this thing, you know,
where MLB Network, where you're tuning in for a week straight.
All right, breaking news. Boom, boom, boom.
Domino's here. Energy, excitement.
So I don't, you know, I don't. I don't know why.
I mean, I know why because it's not collectively bargained, but
I think it's an issue. Boy, Robert's got.
No, I feel bad, Rob. You don't have to throw in money
every time you want to ask a question here.
I appreciate it. But yeah, come on, man.
You're a fan of the Show. I get it, dude.
I'm not looking for that like like that.
I remember the Daily News on Sunday had MLB stats on
everybody's numbers. Oh, yeah.
I missed the home runs average ribbies.
Man, I missed those days. Thank you very much, Robert.
Appreciate it. I remember right.
I would wake up. God, I was inhaling newspapers
from the time I was 6. Remember, my dad would come
home, would have the post would have the news.
But Sundays in particular to to Robert's text there, I would get
the Daily News. I don't know if the post did
this, but I know the news definitely did.
And I would get my my little pen maybe.
No, it was a pen and I would go through every single batting
average right. And I remember getting I mean,
obviously you see like Winfield or Mattingly hitting 343 or
Hernandez had some good seasons for the mess.
And that's that's kind of what I'm talking about.
And like even like Nettles early, early home run, home run
leaders. I don't really remember Reggie
watching Reggie quite as much. And anyway, I would just go
through it and I remember I would get so excited.
You'd see like you go to the bottom would be like Alvaro
Espinoza hitting two O 9 or Butch Winegar, the an old
catcher in like 213 and I would just get excited.
Wayne Tollison. I'm just throwing out these
names. I don't know how where I'm
pulling them from, but Wayne Tollison like or Dale Barra, he
just signed he just circle. I'm like, yeah, as my Yankee.
All right, yeah, Yankee. I in my mind, I don't think I
knew that they listed everybody and if you had the minimum
amount of it bats in my mind, I'm like, oh, wow, All right, It
might be 119th, but hey, he's on the he's on the leaderboard.
We got a good player you. Process things still differently
there all. Right.
So we talked about the fandom irrelevance versus that, that
soul. Crushing.
Loss talked about whether or not you can be truly an all time
great without a ring, which I believe that you can.
I think you've got to be very, very special, especially as a
quarterback or as an NBA player. But I think that you can.
I think many of you disagree with that, but I think that you
can let me give you a little thought here on the national
championship tonight. You know, some jet fans are
like, oh, we got to take a flyer on Carson Beck.
What I mean, so I mean, I, I am looking forward to watching him
play against an amazing Indiana defense.
Not that I'm not that you're taking Carson back to or or with
the Colts pick, but I don't know, maybe later round,
whatever. If he impresses, I think
Indiana's going to stop him to the point where I I was looking
at some of these other numbers, right.
So right now the line well, the line opened up at 7 1/2, right.
You can tell a lot how it's bet and not always, but where the
sharp money is going. Obviously the games today, so
that late money is reflected in short money.
Maybe get a little late surge late, late, late sharp, sharp,
sharp money. But this is pretty much the line
opened up at 7 1/2 got bet up immediately to 8 1/2 favoring
Indiana right. So all the money's pointed on
the Hoosiers as it should. By the way, they are just so
much better than Miami. Now, the game obviously is not a
true neutral site because it's down in at the Hard Rock Stadium
in Miami. So Miami's going to have good
representation. Those Hoosiers are going to
travel, though. They'll get their hands on a lot
of tickets. I don't think it'll be 8020,
maybe 60-40, maybe 6535, but that Hoosier contingent will be
off the charts phenomenal because they've been that way
all along and you're not going to stop now with the
championship. It's amazing that they're going
to win the championship. I don't think there's any doubt
that they win. I don't think there's any doubt
that they cover the Hoosier. You listen, you can talk about
Fernando Mendoza all you want and he's been, he's got 41
touchdown 6 picks, I mean, 41 and six.
And if you've seen him, I know I'm sure some of you are just
starting to see him. And while maybe you learned
about Mendoza a little bit earlier than the rest of the
Hoosiers team understand this, their defense is great and
they're running game is great. Like this is not just a guy
who's on the center. I know some of you know this,
but if you don't, there's not some, you know, superstar
quarterback, which he is, but I mean, with nothing around them
and he's going to have to win a shootout.
I don't even think Miami scores a ton of points tonight.
I think the I think the Hoosiers defense is that good to the
point where I was looking at some of these exotic numbers
like how about this? So -23 1/2.
If you really think that Indiana can score 50 in the
neighborhood, like, can they win 43 to 20 with that?
No, that that wouldn't even do it.
Couldn't they win 44 to 20? Yeah.
And there's a. Number if you want to.
Jack that now this is the alternate lines which when it
works all when you hit one of these, it is my I used to take
this a lot against The Jets when The Jets were.
I was going to say when The Jets were asked.
It's more like when The Jets were.
Good, you would say. They're always.
Asked, but there were times like at the end of Rex where you just
knew it was over and then obviously prolonged stretch of
being over where I'm like, all right, they're playing the
Patriots, they're up in Foxborough, they're 8 1/2 point
dogs. Not I'm going to Jack it up to,
I don't know, spread -16 get some plus 400 value going, throw
down AC note, walk away, bang. You knew they were getting
crushed like the alternate line. And you got to be selective with
it. You got to be a little lucky,
but you got to know your stuff. And I really think Indiana's
going to smoke them tonight. I think they're going to crush
him. So how's this sound -23 1/2, you
lay almost 24 + 480 and you throw that 100, you win almost 5
if they win by 23, by if they win by 23 1/2 points or more.
This one I don't know if I love as much.
I did see it was pretty. I saw it I think on Twitter this
morning. There's a 51 point over
pertaining to the team total for Indiana at 20 to 1.
I mean, is it inconceivable they scored fifty plus points?
It's not it's it's really really not.
So I am going to sit back and and watch Mendoza, who's
Hoosiers team this year has won by an average a margin of 31 1/2
points. Like they're not just winning.
They were obliterating everybody.
And it's not just Mendoza. I think their defense is right.
Ohio State's defense that like they're right there top 20, top
15 in terms of, you know, I don't know, some even even
deeper level analytics that I don't even care to reference
right now. And I love my numbers.
Just trust me. I mean, I'm not I'm not telling
you to throw money on the game, but if you're going to and
you're like, what do you think? I think Indiana's going to smoke
them. I think they'll be the national
champions again, if you want to sprinkle a little something just
to get those juices going, maybe some exotic number the the team
total or, or go over 23 1/2. I don't know if I'd advise that,
but if you're up and you had a good weekend with the NFL and
you want to let it ride and try to make some more, go for it.
I feel really good about the 8 1/2.
Matter of fact, I think it I think it's going to go up.
I don't think it's going to go off at 8 1/2.
I think it would go up to 9 more than it would go down to 8.
I, I don't really see that happening.
So hopefully we get a good game tonight.
I'm not even sure that we will. I really don't.
And then the. College football season's over.
And now, you know, obviously we're getting toward the the
conference championship Sunday with some good storylines, which
I'll obviously obviously probe into during the week to lead up
to. But we got a lot to react to
today. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it,
obviously on Twitter, on Instagram, got a like got to
subscribe this guy, get the hypes going, get that all out
there. Spread the word to you buddies,
not just New York stuff, by the way, a lot of New York content.
But as you can tell, I'm expanding on a little bit more
and more and more extending those parameters of what we
talked about. I want to see what the Knicks
have today. Knicks are playing at 5 or 6, by
the way. I was at, I don't know if it was
the first one. I don't know that it was.
I was actually at the Trent Tucker game I was at.
I've been to a couple of MLK days, Martin Luther King Day
games because we always have off obviously.
And I remember a joke the I had when I was at the Tucker game, I
actually had a better seat than Spike.
I don't know how my dad got the tickets right, but Spike had not
yet moved up the courtside. I was actually at the game with
when Trent Tucker flung it in with 110th of a second left
there. I can still see Mark Jackson
Ewing's arms up there. Oh, my good God, Absolutely
awesome. So I, I love basketball today.
It's fun. You know, you get some of this.
It's really good for the league. I think the league's done a good
job of branding Martin Luther King Day.
They've done this what they've done it with Christmas, although
now the NFL is trying to cut into that.
They've done it with MLK Day, which is great.
It's it's a nice showcase for the sport.
But man, these Knicks, I mean, I know they're still banged up.
You need Jalen Brunson back, but I don't know what the hell
Mitchell Mitchell Robinson's post and stuff on Instagram last
night, basically saying goodbye. I'm I'm doing searches.
Did he get dealt? Like what the hell?
The Knicks just look broken. So they got to start and start
to get they they need to start getting it together.
And even if they play great today, whatever, I just I'm out
on the Knicks. I just don't think that they
have it. They don't have enough dogs.
They got one, they got one physical dog in terms of heart
every, you know, Brunson's a scoring dog and all that stuff.
But they got too many softies on the team and that situation the
other night I talked about this. I'm not doing it again, but very
briefly. That situation with Draymond
Green and Karl Anthony Towns when nobody came through his
defense and Mike Brown was hugging Draymond.
I know it was your boy. I respect that.
Do it in the tunnel. Bad look for the matching that
happened with Pat Riley or Van Gundy or even Tom Thibodeau.
Imagine if Yokum Noah was still playing or Derrick Rose was
still playing on a different team.
Could you imagine Tom Thibodeau after one of his store players
got into a scrap, almost a scrap, at least, you know,
talking smack to each other and right after the game, visible
for everybody to see, You're hugging, you're smiling, you
laugh. It's a bad look.
And it shows me that, like the Knicks don't, they just don't
have it. And when you lose 8 of 10 games,
you've got some real issues defensively and other basketball
issues, not to mention the lack of toughness at inside the MLBI.
Think, I think this commentary is this is really is
disrespectful to Miami's defense.
There's zero percent chance Indiana scores 50.
They've got two first round picks on defense.
Understood, understood. Now you can say that there's
very little chance that they score 50.
You can't say that there's no chance because that implies that
it's absolutely impossible. Now tomorrow, I appreciate that.
Thank you very much. Thank you for that.
But when we fire this up tomorrow with 10:00 in the
morning and my buddy at inside the MLB wants to hit me back and
Indiana wins 20 to 17, which I'd be stunned that or they win or
even if they lose a low scoring battle, which I would be stunned
that well then I'll I'll man up. But I'll say yeah, my bad.
I was wrong. I was wrong.
I think my read on Miami is good and I think my read on my on
Indiana is spot on. I mean, you got the best
quarterback, you got the better defense, you got the better
running attack, you got the better coach.
I mean, who you betting with? Who you going with tonight?
I'll take Indiana. I do.
Admit that that's you know. That's why I said, you know,
plus 480 massive spread or 20 to 1 if they score over 50 points.
I'm not saying that I think they can necessarily score over 50,
but to say that that's disrespectful.
I don't think that that's disrespectful.
I really know. I appreciate that.
All right. Hey, Jared.
What? Is Jared still awake?
Is Jared still here? They one of the books still
here? What's going on, buddy?
Nothing much I mean. I thought it.
Was good. I mean, what's crazy?
Is just like how heated this chat got this episode.
I was like you. I think you you brought some
good debate out of people. Welcome to unleash buddy.
This is what I don't. Know where you've been.
This is what we've been doing this every day.
And this is not my fault. You late to the party, Jared,
Not my problem. This is what we do.
We want the bait.
We want conversation, we want passion.
We want it all. We want a little topic.
Diversity. Good First show, man.
No, no, no egregious mistakes. I guess we'll bring you back.
Hey, Colt, should we bring him back tomorrow?
Bring him back, He said. He said.
He said we should bring you back.
Let's go Hey, do you like Indiana tonight or Miami?
Who do you like in the game? Let's see.
Well, another another show I've. Been doing work on they were big
on they were big on Indiana for tonight.
I mean they've been talking about Mendoza whole season and
they're like Georgia guys. So they've, you know, they've
got something a little like vitriol towards Carson Beck and
sort of just like kind of how his his story's going.
So I'm taking Indiana tonight. OK.
Are you going to actually bet them or you just got you just?
Think they're going to win? You gonna bet him?
Let let's have a fun. Night maybe.
There you go. Let's go.
Let's do it. Let's do something.
Out of man. You got that new revenue.
Stream coming in? Yep, come on now.
Oh. Man oh by the.
Way. So Jared, good job today, man.
Great to have you. If you guys are just tuning in,
that's my new producer. Colt will always be the
executive producer, but Jared is now in charge of this.
And day one you did awesome. More graphics coming, more stuff
coming, more bells and whistles coming.
Eventually phone calls coming. Great job on the chat.
The chat was on fire today. He's going to be handling the
shorts and all the other post show content and production.
So it's going to look tight. It's going to get out there and
we're just going to grow this more and more and more.
So great job, buddy. I appreciate it, Jared.
Good job, appreciate it. You got it, dude.
You got. Hey, before I bounce, I want to
give a shout out. Awesome, awesome night,
Borrelli. So I was in Long Beach, Long
Beach. It was up to no good even
Hollywood trying to get no that not that Long Beach.
Long Beach near basically out toward Long Island.
My buddy Mike Quinn, massive St. John's fan, massive St.
John's bar. So I was hanging out Borelli's
when I've been there before. I had a a watch party appearance
and it was great bar was absolutely packed.
The the enthusiasm was through the charts.
Obviously both football and the Johnnies games were going on and
met a big Saint John's win by the way.
That was it. That was a big win.
That was really the playing Seton Hall tomorrow who lost to
Butler at home. I was very surprised by that.
But St. John's is on a nice run and I'll
give you a minute or so here. I know you got a lot of you guys
that follow me love St. John's obviously.
And you know St. John's was at a point after that
Providence loss 1/2 I guess that was 2 Saturdays ago.
Couple of weeks ago I did the game with Macon.
They lost and they they jumped. Providence is not even good and
they jumped out. St.
John's was up 13 zip and then they lost the game and there was
and there was it was building up a little bit like because St.
John's had some high profile games, Kentucky, Iowa State,
Auburn. Auburn was a bad loss.
And they scheduled differently this year by design because they
got a lot of talent and they want to get the metrics set up
so that if they lose a couple of games is still in a good spot
and challenge themselves. They didn't win any of those
games, right? They beat Baylor, but Baylor's
not like the other teams. So there was a little, I felt
like some of the air was out of the St.
John's balloon early. And I understood it like they
didn't look to me to be the same team or the same ceiling as the
year before when they won 31 times, right?
And won the regular season Big East championship led by Zubi
and RJ Lewis. And funny thing happened after
that Providence game, Rick Pitino figured things out pretty
quick because since that game, and that was that was really,
that was an inexcusable loss, right?
But the way they bounce back, they had back-to-back,
back-to-back quad one Rd. wins. Nice.
That'll get the numbers more favorably right.
And then they beat Marquette by like 25 points.
They smacked him at home. Then that's why Villanova was
such a big game because Villanova's numbers were pretty
good as well. Their back courts really good.
It was it was in Philly where the Sixers play, not on campus.
20,000 people. One of the bigger NBA venues out
there. Obviously Willard is a good
coach, very good. We saw him at Seton Hall, saw
him at Maryland. Willard was with Pitino for a
long time. So he had that and St.
John's just, I mean, they looked really, really good.
So that's another quad one Rd. win.
And as long as you don't stumble against Seton Hall is going to
be tough. It's going to be a street fight.
St. John's suddenly is they're like,
I don't know what are they 13 or 15 in the Ken Palm?
And they're very, very, very high in the net rating, like 21
or 22. So the numbers have have stable.
I think the perception of St. John's has stabilized and it's
really happened as Rick went to a bigger, bigger, bigger lineup
with Dylan Mitchell now getting more run, which I love because
he's a great defender. He makes the right decisions and
they're still evolving a bit. But I thought Ian Jackson was
really good, really good. Hopkins was really good.
Who's been a little up and down for me.
Even Sadden had some big shots. He struggled here.
Zoobies, Zoobies. It's a good win for Saint John.
So looking forward to to the garden tomorrow night against
Seton Hall. And before you know it, guys
like as we look at this with the national championship tonight
again, I'll take the Hoosiers and I'll lay the 8 1/2 with 0
hesitation. Football is over after.
Tonight, we're down to 14. In terms of college, we're down
to four teams in the NC in the in the NFL.
And then before you know, it's February and now you know the
Big East and the and before you know it's March Madness, spring
training and we'll see exactly what the Yanks of the Mets were
taken down to Tampa and Port Saint Lucie.
So then it's NFL draft and then then this channel, I think just
hits a level that I fully expected to hit.
It's just there's some really good things coming.
And I appreciate you guys hopping in on holiday.
Appreciate you guys watching. I appreciate you guys doing the
Super chats and all the things you're doing.
By the way, last week, I'll tell you this analytically this, this
I look at this stuff because we had a little issue with the
YouTube streams, as many of you know, so we had to do on X for
about, I don't know, 7 or 8 shows, which, which kind of, you
know, stunted a little bit of the growth of this channel.
Now we're back to where, where we where we were.
But last week, like I'm, I'm looking because they have a
whole analytical, you know, I love my numbers, looking at the
analytics, the data every day. Like if you look at the the week
going back when we first got back on YouTube stream, Monday
was here, Tuesday was here, Wednesday was here, terms of
viewership, Thursday was here, Friday was here.
Literally went up, up, up, up up five straight shows.
So that's the goal that speaks to, to my commitment coming to,
to bring you guys great content, but I can't do it without you
guys. So I, I, I really appreciate you
guys doing what you doing. I, I, I know you know that by
now, but I don't want to assume that everybody's been here from
day one, you know? Hey, let's just like that.
End it at the fan, alright? That's great.
What's next? I'm not waiting around, I'm not
messing around, I'm not wasting time, I'm not bullshitting.
Let's go and let's get Rockin. And here we are.
So have an awesome rest of your Monday.
I'll be back tomorrow with 10, unless something breaks like a
Bellinger signing or whatever I might, might be Enjoy the
national championship again. Give me the Hoosiers.
I'll lay the 8 1/2. I'll give you a little reaction
tomorrow on the Knicks and again, maybe a little resolution
with the baseball. So have an outstanding Monday,
have an outstanding early start to the week.
Enjoy the holiday with the kids who are all from school today.
And I will see you tomorrow at 10 right here on UNLEASHED Pace.