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What's happening to everybody? 
Unleash, man. 

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We got it all for you today. 
Happy Monday. 

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Kids are home from school so you
got to come up with all these 

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activities. 
Let's get into it. 

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Wild football weekend. 
Two of the games were 

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phenomenal. 2 were absolute 
snooze fest. 

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We got something on Bellinger. 
Here come the Mets maybe try to 

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weasel their way in with with 
Bellinger and obviously this 

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just broke about 30 minutes ago.
McDermott out as the head coach 

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of the Bills now. 
OK, so I get it. 

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I've got a lot of buddies who 
were Bill's Bill, a lot of 

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friends of mine who are Bill's 
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So I've been hearing for a while
and I've been saying for a 

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while, I really like McDermott. 
I don't necessarily view him as 

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a next level guy necessarily, 
but I got to take this is this 

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is really, really one of the 
major problems with the NFL. 

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This doesn't happen necessarily 
in the NBA because one call 

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doesn't ruin somebody's legacy. 
This doesn't happen in baseball 

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because one missed ball or 
strike or ground rule double, 

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even though a replay, whatever, 
it's hard to really mess that 

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stuff up. 
But in the NFL, if you lose a 

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big game and you lose a big a 
big game because the referees 

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are incompetent, you are going 
to lose your job. 

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And I understand that. 
There's really a conversation to

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be had and we've had this 
conversation now for about a 

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year or two. 
All right, what's the ceiling 

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for McDermott? 
Could he really push him 

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through? 
I understand that. 

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And I'm not even pushing back on
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him. 
A lot of ways I respect it 

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because and I like McDermott. 
He's a good coach, not great, 

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but he's good. 
And he matter fact, he's really 

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good. 
But I do think it shows to their

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fans into the football community
that you know, they're after a 

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championship. 
And when you fall short again, 

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based on the circumstances that 
were so favorable for Josh Allen

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and the Buffalo Bills this time 
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and somebody is going to lose 
their job. 

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But think about the sequence. 
And we all watch the game. 

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We all know what happened, but 
just listen to when you actually

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hear it, right? 
Late fourth quarter, Alan, 

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incomplete pass to Brandon Cox. 
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that's not pass interference? 
Are you on Riley Moss? 

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That was clearly that was an 
egregious miss. 

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If the referees make that call, 
the ball is on the one with 19 

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seconds to go and guess what? 
You got to score a touchdown in 

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all probability. 
And if not, you're going to 

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obviously go to overtime, which 
they did. 

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But because the referees just 
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call or non call that cost 
McDermott his job if you really 

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think about it. 
And by the way, then you keep 

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going. 
I mean, there was a litany of 

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moves that went a litany of 
calls that went against the 

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Buffalo Bills. 
I if I'm a Bills fan last night,

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Saturday night, today. 
I don't know how I recover from 

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this. 
I I really don't, which is going

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to lead me into a deeper 
conversation in a minute. 

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And then of course, you get the 
Cooks perception. 

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Brandon Cooks in the middle of a
lot here. 

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I think Moss was involved in 
that play as well. 

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I think he was. 
Yeah, clearly down. 

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Did he complete the catch? 
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Nobody really understands the 
interpretation. 

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I thought the knee was down 
clearly. 

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I thought that was a reception 
clearly instead interception. 

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And then of course, you get even
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where I thought that I thought a
Bills receiver was obviously 

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interfered with. 
So pick, make a pick, one call, 

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2 call, 3 calls and Mcdermott's 
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And, and it really is just 
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It's absolutely crazy how this 
works here. 

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I don't like it. 
I don't have an answer for you 

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necessarily, but I don't 
understand that you could have a

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multi billion dollar NFL machine
and not get this shit right. 

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We're talking about 
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about legacies, we're talking 
about job security. 

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Come on. 
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at some of the malfunctions and 
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continues to make. 
I don't understand it. 

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It is just reprehensibly bad. 
Uh oh, Gruden back in the 

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league. 
BT any chance what up, Miami? 

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Sal, I appreciate that. 
Thank you for checking in. 

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I mean, listen, I don't know. 
I mean, I would you be surprised

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if they called Bill Belichick? 
I'm not saying that I would make

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that call necessarily, but this 
is now going to be the dialogue.

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You think Bill had a lot of fun 
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And let me tell you something 
else right now, if and when. 

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All right. 
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that that's going to happen, 
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inserted into every 
conversation. 

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I think Rex already, somebody 
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already said it on on ESPN this 
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I'm surprised Rex isn't saying 
that they should bring him back.

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I mean, if you listen to Rex 
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championships like Rex. 
I love Rex. 

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Rex was a good coach and A and 
an awesome dude. 

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Rex, I mean, I mean, the last 
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should be in the mix for every 
job that's open. 

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I mean, Rex, maybe the fact that
nobody calls you should tell you

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something that you're not really
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at least not as a head coach. 
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reach out to Brian Dabel, who's 
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with Josh Allen. 
You know, he he helped further 

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unlock him. 
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Davis really get for the 
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I'm not sure. 
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delegate that. 
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favorably in the building. 
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a track record of success. 
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asks me about Jon Gruden. 
I would not hire Jon Gruden. 

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I think Jon Gruden's overrated. 
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hire Jon Gruden because of the 
emails and all that other stuff.

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I'm not even saying that I would
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think Jon Gruden is a slightly 
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And if you're trying to get from
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high to there, which will be 
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win that championship, I don't 
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I mean, if Jon Gruden doesn't 
inherit that, inherit that 

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terrific Tampa Bay Buccaneers 
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championships as a head coach. 
I'm not saying he's not good. 

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I'm not saying that he's not a 
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know, a moribund situation and 
certainly elevated 2 or 3 levels

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to competitive to really 
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But I can't sit here and tell 
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that John Grood's a championship
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Too many years of passwords to 
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So just a wild weekend. 
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And then last night, Caleb 
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show. 
I know they lost the game, but 

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my God. 
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And this opens something up. 
And I I really, I've gone back 

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and forth myself. 
I have personally vacillated on 

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this. 
I really have. 

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I've gone back and forth, I 
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But I know my my answer when I 
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ultimate answer. 
But before I give you the 

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answer, I want to actually 
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What what to you is, is tougher.
What to you was more 

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frustrating? 
Being irrelevant, OK, like like 

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The Jets all these years and and
having no pain, you know, like 

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the Cardinals, like the Browns, 
like those teams that do nothing

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or this incredible hurt that 
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it stays with you, especially if
your season ends because you got

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hosed by the refs. 
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better team, you know, or a 
legend like Mahomes, which 

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happened when they lost 32 to 
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I mean, think about how close 
Mcdermott's been the 

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championships or, you know, 
Super Bowls and obviously in the

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AFC Championship with, with the 
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is crazy. 
And and that's just, to me, it 

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just further reinforces the need
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whatever words you want to use. 
They've got to start getting 

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this right. 
The stakes are too big and all 

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that other stuff that I said 
before, but I really, I, I go 

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back and forth, like I see the 
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Chicago coming back from 
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renovated and refurbished 
Soldier Field, which is a 

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stadium that is when I was first
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know, early 80s and certainly 
mid 80s when they had that great

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46 defense with Buddy Ryan and 
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Ditka. 
And they won the world 

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championship. 
They squashed the Patriots, 

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whatever the heck the score was 
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They beat about like 30 
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It wasn't even competitive, 
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And there's a lot of big games 
against the Giants back then and

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the Redskins back then, the pen 
Redskins. 

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So I have seen that camera, even
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different many times in my life 
going back years and years and 

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years. 
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championship and the Bears have 
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I mean, basically nobody. 
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because he's that good. 
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Jim McMahon wasn't great. 
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ride. 
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without that defense. 
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That's just the way it goes. 
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better days for the Bears. 
That's why I say that. 

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And they're fans, but you can't 
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lose in overtime at home, the 
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that's going on. 
And now you, you like I'm, I'm 

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trying to put myself back in 
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And it's been so long, whether 
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obviously back-to-back with Rex,
losing championship games for 

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the AFC. 
I mean, that's, it's a million 

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years ago for me, that feeling 
when that game ends and and you 

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lose the way some of these teams
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I, I really think that it's a 
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around and and kick around for a
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Like what? 
What's the lesser of the two 

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evils? 
Not being relevant enough where 

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you get hurt or being highly 
relevant, being in the 

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conversation, you know, year 
after year after year and then 

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having your heart smashed into a
million smithereens. 

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I, I, I don't know. 
By the way, is there any show 

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date yet planned for Stephen AI?
Appreciate that. 

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Inside the MLB. 
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to do, I don't know if you guys 
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Got a little bell and whistle 
down there. 

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We're going to start trotting 
out some stuff. 

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The studio redesign is coming. 
You look at the logo up there in

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the upper right for me, upper 
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I would imagine, or maybe it's 
the same, I don't know. 

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Got a new camera. 
You know that the camera is just

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phenomenal, right? 
It's just it's a different level

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of clarity. 
So we got some things cooking 

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and before we go any further, I 
had now I know that as I say 

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that this is going to hurt my 
son who is home from school 

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today, who helped the daddy get 
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So Colts always going to be the 
the Co producer and the founding

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producer. 
He's always going to have that 

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on his resume. 
But as my little 11 year old get

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back, gets back to school and 
has all these games, he's got to

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get on with being a kid and 
doing his thing. 

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So daddy had a find an adult 
producer who was available, who 

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is obviously respected, somebody
that I've worked with before all

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The Jets on killable stuff after
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full time, Jared was my 
producer. 

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Jared, come on in. 
Let the world see you. 

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But look at this guy. 
What's going on here, buddy? 

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How you feeling, dude? 
Nothing much. 

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Excited. 
Excited to push the brand 

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forward, excited to do some 
producing to get some comments 

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hating on the time stamps and 
telling me what to fix. 

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And yeah, ready. 
Ready for the whole adventure, 

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man? 
Hey, well, that's awesome. 

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And you know, we obviously had 
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you know you your people looking
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the way business goes. 
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throughout. 
I always knew that I wanted you.

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You sensed right away that you 
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We just had adopt the I. 
So here we are man. 

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And by the way, there is only I 
don't have many rules on the 

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show because there's not many 
parameters that I have to adhere

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to. 
I don't have to. 

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I'm not beholding to a 
commercial break. 

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I'm not beholding to we got this
show coming up next. 

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We do whatever we want, but 
there is one rule. 

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All right, I should probably 
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you actually signed the. 
I don't know if you're going to 

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like this, but this is in the 
very this is in the very small 

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print that you probably didn't 
read and hopefully your lawyer 

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glossed over as well. 
Any like egregious malfunction 

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mistake. 
It's your fault. 

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Yeah, that you know that rule, 
right? 

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That. 
Shouldn't even be in the the 

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fine print that I knew that from
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intro on that one episode. 
We did remember that. 

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So listen, man, it's awesome to 
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And now as things break, like 
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Yankee Mets stuff or if this was
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I was on the unlike the Beau 
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tell me what's going on in the 
in the stream here and I'm 

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checking my phone. 
I'm like is did, did they really

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sign them? 
I got my producer. 

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He is locked in. 
He is on top of it. 

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We're building out more concepts
every day. 

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It's going to look better and 
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some musical elements. 
So, Jared, it is awesome to 

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officially have you part of. 
Thank you. 

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Welcome, ma'am. 
Thank you again and yeah, to all

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the fans, everyone super excited
to get to work and just provide 

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the greatest content that we can
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That's. 
Awesome you know you know we're 

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but you know you know we're 
about to blow up here brother 

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there he is Jeremiah producer 
all right and yes my son is 

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going to always keep that He is 
built he's grandfathered in to 

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the you know he was the 
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weeks or so now he is for 
perpetuity. 

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He is always locked into that 
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He was the first producer BT 
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So I thank him for that. 
All right, now you think about 

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the the hurt, right and the pain
and, and you try to like juggle 

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not mattering. 
Like there's nothing worse than 

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not mattering. 
Like if you don't matter, you 

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just don't matter. 
Like there's no way to. 

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I don't need to church that up. 
We all know what that means. 

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You don't matter. 
You, you don't. 

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Nobody talks about you unless 
they're throwing a joke like the

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Butt fumble or like the Giants 
recently until they found the 

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quarterback and found the coach 
and John Harbaugh, like all 

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these things that irrelevance 
bring you to all right. 

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It is, it is absolutely. 
It's it's, it's, it's, it's a 

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different level of devastation 
because you're not you're not 

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amped up for anything. 
The only thing that excites me 

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on football Sunday is am I going
to win a couple of bets? 

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How's my fantasy team doing? 
Which wasn't very good again. 

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And what am I eating? 
I'm like, where am I going to 

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get the sandwich? 
And you guys by now know what 

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the sandwich is. 
Generally sundaes, a little 

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roast beef, extra thin, extra 
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roasted red pepper, a little 
oil, a little vinegar, a little 

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bag of chips, a little ginger 
ale, little cucumber salad, 

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sometimes a little shrimp salad.
I sit there and I watch bored 

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out of my mind. 
I watch The Jets do nothing. 

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So there's no like I'm never 
afflicted with this burden. 

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I never go to the next game or 
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Monday night game where I am 
distraught. 

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However, I don't think that 
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thought where I I think that 
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that. 
That football knife being 

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plunged in your football heart 
like the Bills fans and like 

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some other fans that just get 
the wrong end of the stick with 

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these calls and let's see what 
Nate is saying here at Nate 

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under score Jets all right, 
losing for 10 plays about the 

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what we're talking about losing 
for 10 plus years as The Jets 

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have done them. 
This is a good point can cost it

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an entire generation of young 
passionate fans. 

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I would relive I would kill to 
Why can't I read this? 

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I would kill the relive 2009 
jets playoff runs or the O6 Andy

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Chavez great catch. 
Obviously Adam Wainwright 

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curveball. 
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got a swing in that spot, but we
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about. 
Even though they both ended in 

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heartbreak and all right, so 
that's a good thought there 

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Nate, thank you for that. 
I appreciate the Super chat. 

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Thank you very much. 
I understand that, I really do 

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because when you, when you look 
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at the lead up and and this is 
what you've got to reconcile 

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from within like me, just got to
sit like this on the couch. 

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All right, You know, I got to 
fire up the pod here in 30 

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minutes, Jets are losing 30 to 
3, Jets are losing 27 six Jets 

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are losing 40 to 13. 
I've got a couple of notes here.

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Let me, let me start the pod and
let me let a RIP and just, you 

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know, cathartically yell like an
incense lunatic. 

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Sure. 
I I guess that anybody could do 

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that and it gets old after a 
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And yelling for the sake of 
yelling is maybe it's 

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entertaining once in a while, 
but to me it's not incredibly 

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intelligent. 
It's this world. 

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There's really no depth there. 
So I mean, that's got an 

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exploration point as well. 
And at least, at least even with

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that loss by the Bills, even 
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think about the build up, think 
about what you get, the equity 

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that you have with your team and
that your team more importantly 

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has with you, that built in 
equity. 

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You get to the draft, all right?
You know you're not going first 

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or second. 
You don't need a quarterback if 

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you're a good team. 
So the position that everybody's

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chasing, you already have, 
that's good. 

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That's check #1 favorably. 
And then you get to like OTAs 

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and offseason workouts and maybe
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And now there's that type of 
energy. 

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Hey, if you're a good team with 
cap space, you're really pumped 

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up. 
If you're a good team with no 

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cap space, you're still probably
pumped up because good teams 

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generally have creative GM's and
personnel departments. 

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And then you restructure this 
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And guess what? 
You go from being $3 million 

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over the cap to suddenly having 
2829 or 30 where you can at 

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least get those reinforcements 
to hopefully take the next step.

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So you're even excited about 
that. 

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And then training camp starts 
and you flock to watch the 

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practices. 
You pray that nobody gets hurt. 

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The real, real nobody. 
But really, especially the 

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quarterbacks, you know, we've 
seen that before. 

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You pray you get through camp 
healthy. 

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Most of the stars don't play at 
all anymore. 

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Maybe a series early on, shed 
the rust and that's it. 

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So the summer, once the 
preseason games come on, you're 

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kind of chilling. 
You get a chance to see your 

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team's logo. 
You still 10, You still going to

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the beach, You still watching 
baseball. 

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All's good. 
You got your the whole football 

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season in front of you and that 
no, it's a feeling I haven't 

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felt in a long time, but as I 
can recollect as I dust off my 

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memory bank brain, it's an 
amazing feeling like yo, we we 

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got it. 
We got one of the best defenses 

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in football. 
We can run the hell out of it. 

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We'll talk about The Jets with 
with Rex. 

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We got an old line. 
This is our year like and that 

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what you think that it is your 
year in the NFL. 

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It's unlike any other feeling 
that you have with any other 

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team in any other sport. 
If you even if you think you're 

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about to win it like trust me 
now the Knicks are just I mean 

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you lost twice to the Suns in 
five days. 

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Knicks get your act together, 
man. 

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They're playing later. 
This Knick team. 

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I think this Knick team is 
actually busted. 

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I would make trades. 
I tweeted that the other night. 

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This team's not winning 
anything. 

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I spoke about that the other 
day. 

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And if you guys missed it, go 
and check out the previous pod. 

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It's in there. 
But even though I don't like 

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this team now, and I do think 
you've got to reconfigure this 

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by the end of the dead, by the 
deadline, I was excited about 

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the Knicks this year. 
I knew that they had, you know, 

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based on the odds and based on 
Bronson and based on their 

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talent and a new philosophy 
offensively. 

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I was obviously very excited 
about the Knicks ability to 

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pursue like get to a 
championship, maybe mess around,

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win one, but certainly get out 
of the Eastern Conference. 

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And that that set me up 
emotionally for a fun. 

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But now it doesn't mean they 
can't get there. 

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I don't think they will, but 
that level of conviction and 

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excitement kind of, you know, 
the fuse together is so 

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different. 
It's 9 layers emotionally passed

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where you are as a football fan.
All right, because I just go 

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back to my debts. 
My my jet stays with with Rex 

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right? 
So as then the season starts and

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you have a good football team 
September, October, November, 

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December. 
And if you have a good team 

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means you have a great 
quarterback generally, which 

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means you got a ton of primetime
games, which means your life as 

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a football fan is fun. 
The complete antithesis a bite. 

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And generally you are rewarded 
with take a pick, 11 on the low 

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side, 12/13 regular season wins.
You know, everything's good, you

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cooking, playoffs start, maybe 
you have the buy, at least you 

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have a home game, generally 
speaking, right? 

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And then it ends and it's that 
six or seven month build up and 

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the ending is so painful. 
I don't know that there's a 

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worse hurt in sport than losing 
a big football game with your 

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team. 
If you're truly an invested, die

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hard fan. 
I, I, I don't know. 

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And I mean, listen, I've, I've 
come up with some, you know, 

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like Mariano, the broken bad 
base hit for O1. 

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That's a different level of hurt
versus, say, choking it away in 

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Denver 98 or even Vinny getting 
hurt in 99 with the Achilles, 

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because I knew that that was the
end of the jet season. 

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It's it's next level, it's 
deeper, it's different level of 

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pain. 
And, and that's up to you to 

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reconcile. 
I, I, I know my reconciliation, 

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I would always choose to be 
relevant. 

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I'll always take my chances 
there because if you're 

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relevant, you could eventually 
crack through. 

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And as much as the Bills and the
Bears fans feel that today, 

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eventually the Bills fans will 
regenerate when they have a new,

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provided they like the coach 
that he's introduced and he got 

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Josh Hamlin. 
And the Bears fans will sit 

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there and say, we just watched a
young man make some of the 

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sickest throws that I've ever 
seen. 

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I mean, Mahomes level throws, 18
seconds, falling back backwards,

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40 something. 
Your heart's on a rope. 

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Are you crazy? 
Like, so your life is going to 

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be good for a while. 
But the pain today, it's 

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absolutely brutal. 
Hammer time, 3661. 

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It's been so long, I don't 
remember what it's like to not 

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be numb on Sundays. 
I'd sell the kidney for a first 

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round playoff exit. 
You, you really wouldn't. 

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But I I I get the point. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, it's it's insane. 
And then you look at it to like 

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53 penalty yards, guys, 53 on a 
single overtime drive. 

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That's what the referees decided
was, was the way to go. 

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That's just, it's unacceptable 
and it is so unfair. 

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And I understand, like even I 
know the automated UMS that's 

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going to change things. 
But or, you know, say a 5050, 

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was it a charge? 
Was it a block? 

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I know you could review stuff, I
get it. 

449
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,960
But there's always going to be 
with almost every call, unless 

450
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,120
it's fair or foul, like in 
baseball, that's, that's clear. 

451
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,080
There's always going to be an 
element of subjectivity because 

452
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,720
even the strike zone, like you 
say, wow, from the, from the 

453
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,360
chest to the to the knees, OK. 
But the National League strike 

454
00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,360
zone back of the day was 
different than the American 

455
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:06,600
League. 
So there's always a a stretching

456
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,320
of the boundaries, a little bit 
of a different interpretation of

457
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080
of of what, you know, what a 
strike zone might be. 

458
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,520
I mean, there should be no 
interpretation what a catches. 

459
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,480
And and that's the problem with 
what went down the other night 

460
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,640
with Buffalo Saturday night. 
I mean, he caught the ball, but 

461
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,880
he didn't complete the catch. 
And by the time he completed the

462
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,240
catch, that's what he stole it 
from. 

463
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520
And that's why it's a big no. 
I think you got to roar. 

464
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,800
His knee was down. 
If you fumble and your elbow is 

465
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,760
hits the turf, is it a like if 
you have if you possess the ball

466
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,760
and you hit the turf and your 
elbow or your knee makes contact

467
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,600
with the ground before the ball 
is being pried away, is that a 

468
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,160
fumble? 
The answer is no. 

469
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,240
Like unequivocally. 
We know that that is very easy 

470
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,400
to look at a film or look at a 
replay. 

471
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,320
And the deuce immediately, all 
right, elbow ground, the ground 

472
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,360
ball, dead ball loose ball 
coming loose before, you know, 

473
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,160
an an inch before the elbow hit 
the ground, it was getting 

474
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,160
stripped away. 
But you, you just you can't, you

475
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,560
can't mess these calls up and 
you can't be so hasty in the 

476
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,760
evaluation and the process of 
trying to determine what in the 

477
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,200
world just happened. 
And that's what happened. 

478
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,360
Oh, good. 
No, that's why Mcturbin's like 

479
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:20,160
time out. 
Come on, this is my he knows. 

480
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,520
He knows that if he loses that 
game, he's getting whacked. 

481
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240
Now, I think he's I don't think 
that was a selfish move, like, 

482
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720
oh, let me really make sure they
get this right so I don't lose 

483
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,360
my job. 
No, he's about his team at that 

484
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,680
point. 
But the downstream repercussion,

485
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,640
the byproduct of not 1-2 
egregious and a third call that 

486
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,240
was highly questionable, just 
cost a good football coach's 

487
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,520
job. 
Is that right? 

488
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,280
The answer is no act at brac 
227. 

489
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,760
What up brac guys got the bears 
lid on there Ah here you go 

490
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,800
finally now this is the good 
stuff. 

491
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Finally got to see the bears 
have a great season and able to 

492
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,160
watch with my seven-year old son
and see the joy on his face with

493
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,240
every win Now listen, you know 
you know how I love this. 

494
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,160
You know I love the kids I love 
the sports. 

495
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,120
I love it all, man, so I get it.
And there are certain moments 

496
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:16,480
that you'll just as much as you 
think it's going to be a daily 

497
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,760
occurrence, you know, you never 
know. 

498
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,080
I mean, like, you know, if I had
children in 96 and 98 and 99 and

499
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,360
2000, we'd be sitting there 
going to a total World Series 

500
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,480
championships in person and 
watching the road games and 

501
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,440
watching the Yankees win 4 
championships, you know? 

502
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520
No, but my kids were born in 15 
and 16, no championships. 

503
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,440
So that's awesome. 
You didn't win the game, the 

504
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,280
bond, this bill. 
And listen, you're a dad. 

505
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,760
I don't have to tell you what's 
really important. 

506
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,720
I mean, winning a game or 
actually sitting there for 3-4 

507
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,520
hours and I'm sure whether it 
was your wife or their 

508
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400
grandparents or a couple of 
buddies, whatever might be like 

509
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,240
that, that's really what it's 
about at the end of the day. 

510
00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,040
You're not taking, you know, I'm
not taking a 2009 Yankee World 

511
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760
Series championship to the 
grave. 

512
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:05,040
But I will take the memories 
that I had during that run. 

513
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,760
I will take the memory of being 
in the Stadium in 1996. 

514
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,480
I had just graduated college and
I was in the upper deck, so I 

515
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,920
was right behind the plate, as 
high as you can get. 

516
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,920
And I got there like as high up 
as you can get, to be clear. 

517
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,440
And I get there at like 2 in the
afternoon. 

518
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,120
We're hitting all the bars. 
I mean, I'm 20, whatever I am, 

519
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,160
and I'll never forget that I was
with one of my best friends who 

520
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,400
was in my wedding. 
Like that's, that's the good 

521
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,000
stuff there. 
And and the losses, they really 

522
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:41,960
do hurt, But without a painful 
loss, the prospects of a life 

523
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,280
altering in terms of emotionally
and like a bond. 

524
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,480
They, they don't exist, you 
know, yet. 

525
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,000
It's it's, it's an emotional 
roll of the dice. 

526
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,280
Where is this the harsh reality 
of it? 

527
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Guys? 
The more you love something and 

528
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,040
not just sports, but the more 
you love something, then the 

529
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,520
more it's going to hurt what 
it's taking away. 

530
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,200
And, and, and I'll, I'll give 
you a great example. 

531
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,560
I joked around with a few of my 
buddies in town and you guys 

532
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,800
know how much I love coaching, 
right? 

533
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,400
I've got a couple of more years 
to do it. 

534
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560
You know, less for my son 
because he's playing, you know, 

535
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,280
more and more high level stuff. 
More with my daughter because 

536
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,760
she's and I don't coach those 
club teams that say you're 

537
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,720
getting older and those are the 
teams and dad's in the stands 

538
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,280
and go do your thing. 
We'll see what We'll see where 

539
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,440
it goes, Right. 
Where's my daughter? 

540
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,520
She's a year. 
You're 18 months younger. 

541
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,240
Yeah. 
It's easier to coach rec and all

542
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,520
those other things. 
A little softball and 

543
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,160
basketball. 
But I joke with some of my 

544
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,720
friends in town, like I think 
this is a great parallel. 

545
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,840
I think you guys will appreciate
this. 

546
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,360
I joke with some people in town 
that when my coaching days are 

547
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,520
over, right, I am going to. 
I mean, I'm obviously joking. 

548
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,960
I, I, I think like I'm going to 
be wandering around the ball 

549
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,920
fields with a fungo bat and a 
bucket of balls looking for 

550
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,960
somebody to coach. 
Like, you know, when the kids 

551
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,520
are older and, and, and I've 
seen so many of the text, like 

552
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,520
if I put some and I don't put as
much out anymore because they're

553
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,360
getting a little bit older and 
let them do their own thing. 

554
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,760
But when they were like real 
little, like, you know, maybe a 

555
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,280
picture of us in the car going 
to T-ball, you know, first time 

556
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,040
dad, you, you lean into all that
stuff. 

557
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,400
And I remember even then, so 
many people saying, dude, it 

558
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,920
goes by so fast. 
Enjoy it, enjoy it, enjoy it. 

559
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,960
Now, what does that mean about 
what I'm, what I'm talking about

560
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,760
with sports? 
Well, I mean, there's a lot of 

561
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,960
people who coach and there's a 
lot of well-intentioned. 

562
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,840
I'm not saying I'm a great 
coach. 

563
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,920
That's not the point of this at 
all. 

564
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,280
There's a lot of 
well-intentioned people who 

565
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720
devote their time and and do a 
good job. 

566
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,920
I don't know that you can I 
don't know that you can love it 

567
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320
more than I actually love it. 
And I don't know that you can 

568
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,480
devote more time than than I 
actually have already and we'll 

569
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,600
still do to an extent. 
And when you love something that

570
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960
much, and I do it for my kids, 
right? 

571
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,640
When you love something that 
much, it's going to break my 

572
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,880
heart when it's over. 
Like I actually believe as I'm 

573
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,880
saying this, I'm actually, I'm 
getting said. 

574
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,720
That's how much I love it. 
And now again, to parallel it 

575
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,000
back to sports, when you love 
something the way the Bills fans

576
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,400
love that team and the Bears 
fairs Bears fans love their 

577
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,960
team. 
Boy, the hurt when it's gone. 

578
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440
It is. 
It's really hard to communicate 

579
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,640
what it feels like. 
But then think about the 

580
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,760
fulfillment. 
And that's that's what it's 

581
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,600
about, you know, So being 
irrelevant or being our having 

582
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,160
my soul crushed. 
Give me the ladder any day of 

583
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,040
the week. 
All right, MK Doza, what's up, 

584
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,920
buddy? 
Wouldn't surprise me if Buffalo 

585
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,560
goes goes all in for Tomlin to 
open the new stadium. 

586
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240
New ownership, new energy 
billionaires flex their 

587
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,760
financial might. 
Financial might. 

588
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Wow. 
Well, are we got to see if Tom's

589
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,080
going to take a year off. 
I get the sense that he wants to

590
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320
now the Buffalo job also wasn't 
open. 

591
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,240
I also hope that he doesn't 
because, you know, once The Jets

592
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,400
hit the bed this year and 
probably go 5:00 and 12:00, 

593
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,560
well, then I'm going to be the 
loudest leading the Mike Tomlin 

594
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,400
charge or hear about The Jets 
getting Mike Tomlin. 

595
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360
So I hope he doesn't go to 
Buffalo. 

596
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,040
And I I don't think that he 
will. 

597
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,480
I don't know for sure, but it's 
been and there were a lot of 

598
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:09,400
very appealing job openings that
were open after the Steelers 

599
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600
moved on from him. 
It's a little different with the

600
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,200
contract than it was for 
Harbaugh. 

601
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,000
You know, what are you going to 
give up the trade form and all 

602
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320
that stuff that that's a little 
tricky. 

603
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920
But yeah, I think that that's 
fairly interesting. 

604
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,080
I, I think Dabel's going to get 
some run here. 

605
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,240
I really do. 
And I'm not saying that I would 

606
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,120
hire Brian Dabel. 
I'm not saying that. 

607
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800
And you'd have to get, you have 
to build out the rest of the 

608
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,720
staff and and whatever. 
So I'm not going to get into the

609
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,560
weeds of who I think Dabel can 
bring with him. 

610
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,640
But there is, there is synergy 
there between the quarterback 

611
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,160
and and potentially new, new 
head coach, number one. 

612
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Number two, he knows the area 
and he knows ownership and I 

613
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,760
would think he's hardly thought 
of. 

614
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,440
And that's why I said this the 
other day, the character that 

615
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Brian Tables showed right when 
he called John Horribaugh and 

616
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,000
proactively sold him on the on 
the building and all the 

617
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,280
organization on, on the Mara 
family, on the Tisch family, on 

618
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640
the virtue of the New York 
Giants, even though they've been

619
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,600
sold down for so long. 
What a stand up move. 

620
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880
You don't think that that's 
going to I don't. 

621
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000
I don't think he did that just 
to oh, in case McDermott gets 

622
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360
whacked, I'll look like a good 
guy and maybe they'll hire me. 

623
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,040
No, I think high character 
people do high character things 

624
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,320
either when the cameras on and 
everybody's watching or when 

625
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,440
nobody's watching. 
I, I don't think you turn 

626
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,320
character on and off. 
At least I'm a staunch believer 

627
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,280
in that. 
That doesn't mean you're going 

628
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,120
to be perfect. 
You know, you could be 

629
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280
well-intentioned, you could have
great character, you could try 

630
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480
to do right by people and mess 
up. 

631
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,160
I mean, that's, it's called 
life. 

632
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,400
It's going to happen. 
But I, I I was really impressed 

633
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,040
by that because like, and it's 
one thing you know that Coughlin

634
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160
well, I shouldn't say you know 
that conflicts that didn't end 

635
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,120
well, but it was great that 
Coughlin did it. 

636
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,040
But he's a two time champ. 
He's a revered member of the 

637
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,080
giants family. 
Eli forget it's simple. 

638
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Hey, it's Eli, we be the giants 
great. 

639
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,080
Come help us, come save us, 
right. 

640
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,440
So that was easy. 
Others reached out as well, but 

641
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Dabel was fired before the 
defensive coordinator Bowen was 

642
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
fired. 
And if there's going to be a 

643
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,200
pettiness or a long memory, it's
very easy. 

644
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Just put yourself in Dabel's 
shoes for a minute. 

645
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Like, wow, they kicked me out of
the building when we had one 

646
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,120
good year and I was responsible 
for because I was able to 

647
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,720
resuscitate Daniel Jones and get
the offense to be opportunistic 

648
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,000
and run and blah, blah, blah, 
not turn the ball. 

649
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,480
Shane didn't do a damn thing 
because I inherited the roster 

650
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480
and I had to coach him up and 
then he built the roster up 

651
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,040
after that. 
Like the general matter who gets

652
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,320
hired, the general manager has 
very little influence on the 

653
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,600
initial roster that he inherits.
I'm not saying that there's not 

654
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720
like a salary cap dump, but of 
course the first draft pick that

655
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800
you make, which by the way, was 
not good. 

656
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,840
I mean, Evan Neal was horrendous
and I don't think Kayvon's going

657
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,760
to be here forever. 
I I, I don't think. 

658
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,720
But either way, there was just a
really stand up move there by by

659
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Brian Dabel. 
And I wouldn't be surprised if 

660
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,760
they reach out. 
You're going to see a lot of 

661
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,240
names. 
You see a lot of rumblings. 

662
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,160
Yeah. 
What does it say here? 

663
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,560
Yeah, I've actually. 
I see this myself. 

664
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720
I got a couple hours. 
Me and me and Jared both 

665
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,320
clicking buttons there. 
Jared, you have precedence over 

666
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,520
that. 
You know, I just saw something. 

667
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,720
I'll get to it after this. 
So I coach my kids in basketball

668
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,920
and baseball when they were 
little. 

669
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Loved it. 
My kids are grown now, but I 

670
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,760
look back finally at those days.
But no desire to coach other 

671
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,080
people's kids. 
All right. 

672
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, I I get it. 

673
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,640
I do understand that. 
Thank you very much for that. 

674
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,760
But it's I, I listen, I get it. 
I mean, the reason why you, you,

675
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,720
you get up early and the reason 
why you lay the uniform out of 

676
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,440
the reason why there's an energy
if if if you're built like I am,

677
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,080
you know, and, and how much I 
love it is because you'll love 

678
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,720
it. 
But but you love doing it for 

679
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,440
and with your kids. 
You know, to get up at 7:00 on 

680
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,560
a, on a whatever on a Saturday 
when I'm 60 years old and, you 

681
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,240
know, coaching a bunch of kids, 
I don't know. 

682
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,040
Yeah, that would that would be a
little bit of a different sell 

683
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,400
there. 
But the I, I, I the prospects of

684
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,200
teaching and connecting that 
doesn't change much. 

685
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520
This is the one I was going to 
get to here and I've seen this a

686
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,480
lot. 
LAN Corleone, BT love for you to

687
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200
move the show to afternoon 
drivetime daily listener after 

688
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,680
the after the live. 
Yeah, listen, the reason I 

689
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680
jumped out at 10 and the reason 
why I plan on staying here at 10

690
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,400
is because I'm a routine 
oriented person. 

691
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,240
So I've been doing 10 AM for a 
bunch of years, All right, And 

692
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960
1st year, first boutique and 
then couple of years with Sal, 

693
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,560
as you guys know. 
And by the way, this week is the

694
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,800
BT and Sal live show with Aaron 
Boone, which we will stream, 

695
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,600
which is going to be an amazing 
night. 

696
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,600
I cannot wait. 
The Vogel Theater is great. 

697
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,960
It's going to be a really, 
really fun night. 

698
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,000
And God, if, if, if let me tell 
you something right now, because

699
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,360
I already know my, my old 
partner, if the Mets get 

700
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,800
Bellinger before this freaking 
show on Thursday, I might have 

701
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,560
to call them sick. 
Because if he thinks that I'm 

702
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,040
sitting up on that stage in 
front of 450 people and I'm 

703
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,160
going to listen to him just wax 
on about, Oh, but shit, oh, 

704
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,760
we're Bellinger, Soto, the 
whisper, Lindor King Cohen and 

705
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,719
the Yankees got nothing. 
I, I, I, I might lose it like 

706
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,320
it's OK if they get Bellinger if
the Yankees don't want. 

707
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,679
And I'll get to that after more 
about the not about the Yankee 

708
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,440
Met dynamic, but more about the 
Bellinger thing, like the the 

709
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,560
pursuit. 
But it's OK if you let Bellinger

710
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,280
go. 
Like I'm not here saying you 

711
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,040
should go to 70 years, 190, 
whatever. 

712
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,159
No, he's got a limit. 
He is what he is. 

713
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,400
But if he goes to the Mets and 
the Yankees by Thursday do 

714
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000
nothing, I am going to be fit to
be tied. 

715
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,520
So as a warning to the Yankees, 
if they don't want to get 

716
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,600
blasted, you know, if you're 
going to let Bell and you go, 

717
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,560
that's fine, then you better 
immediately trade for Kwan and 

718
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,440
trade for Peralta. 
You better have a lot of things 

719
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520
up. 
I mean, the slumber that the 

720
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,920
Yankees have been in so far this
offseason is mind blow. 

721
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Like, what do the Yankees do if 
they sign Yarborough and they 

722
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,800
trade for Weathers? 
I mean, that's pretty much it. 

723
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,680
And they gave an idiotic $22 
million qualifying offer for a 

724
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,360
center fielder that I don't even
like. 

725
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,520
That, until they do other stuff,
is going to unfortunately be 

726
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,800
hitting at the top of the 
lineup, which is not good for 

727
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,320
the Yankees because he strikes 
out too much and he can't hit 

728
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,080
lefties. 
So, you know, just for my own 

729
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
sanity, Yankees, do something 
before I got to be there. 

730
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
And for next to Sal on Thursday.
Oh, man. 

731
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,720
And let me ask you something 
here, so as I render my verdict 

732
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:34,280
on irrelevance or torturous next
level, deepest level pain fandom

733
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,960
hurt, You know my answer. 
Give me the hurt. 

734
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,800
Give me the pain because it 
means that my team's moving in 

735
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,640
the right direction. 
And eventually, like all 

736
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,640
unkillables do, there's a 
regeneration. 

737
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,040
You get back, you get the you 
get the bounce back in your 

738
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
step. 
You start on who do, who we're 

739
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,400
going to hire as the coach. 
All right, Who we going to 

740
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,160
draft? 
What do we need? 

741
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,840
But really, the way some of 
these games ended with some of 

742
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,560
these calls is just 
unacceptable. 

743
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,960
I've got a question for you, by 
the way, Jared's Jared still has

744
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,960
a job. 
He's doing a good job. 

745
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,840
I get Colt in the other room on 
on lock. 

746
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,320
So if Jared messes up, we can 
the first show could be his last

747
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,840
one. 
Can you be? 

748
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,160
This is just a general question 
that I'm going to ask. 

749
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,480
And then I'm going to hang out 
there for two or three seconds, 

750
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,760
let it let it marinate for a 
moment. 

751
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,640
And I want to get into this and 
the impetus behind this topic to

752
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,720
craft this conversation is about
Josh Allen. 

753
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,360
All right, largely about Josh, 
but also tying in Aaron Judge. 

754
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,440
And the question is very simple.
Can you be an all time great 

755
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,440
without a ring? 
Can you be considered to be one 

756
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,400
of the I don't mean a Hall of 
Famer, that's obvious. 

757
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,720
Like doings in the Hall of Fame,
Barclays in the Hall of Fame, 

758
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,400
Stockton, no doubt. 
I'm talking about when you sit 

759
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,920
down and you have a 
conversation, whether it's on a 

760
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,120
show like this or at the bar or 
on the golf course or whatever 

761
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,200
it might be, when you have your 
sports debates that I know that 

762
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,280
you have. 
Can you be an old timer without 

763
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,920
the championship validation? 
Let it sitting out there for a 

764
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:21,240
SEC. 
Can you now my answer is that it

765
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:25,360
depends on the sport. 
Like you can obviously be an all

766
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,880
time top of the list great 
baseball player without a 

767
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,920
championship. 
You can be because there's too 

768
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,160
many external factors. 
There's just too many things 

769
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,680
that you can't control. 
You know, I mean, now Aaron 

770
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Judge has had a, a weaker post 
season profile over the last 

771
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,840
year was different then he's had
a stronger 1 like you cracked 

772
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,440
through a year ago. 
And hopefully that's a 

773
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,400
foreshadow of the next couple of
years. 

774
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,320
If the Yankees get back, if they
don't do anything in the next 

775
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,800
couple of weeks, I don't even 
know if they're going to get 

776
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,920
back. 
But like Judge and his, his 

777
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,000
quest for a championship is 
different than say when LeBron 

778
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,200
was hunted #1 or Magic and Bird 
were doing their thing. 

779
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,440
Because the influence of the 
basketball players just so, so 

780
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,960
much greater than a baseball 
players We all know now. 

781
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,360
I find that it and I was just 
John down. 

782
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Listen, no rhyme or reason. 
If you said to me, I want to I 

783
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,400
want to throw 2. 
I don't want to get too listed 

784
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,440
because it's a lot. 
So I'll try to minimize him, but

785
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,520
I'm going to give you, you know,
no well, the first couple will 

786
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:33,320
be in order 789 NBA players and 
then 789 quarterbacks. 

787
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,720
All right, obviously to me, MJ's
to go NBA, no doubt. 

788
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,800
MJ Kareem's number two. 
I'm putting LeBron 3, you know, 

789
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:48,400
Bird, Magic 4-5 ish. 
Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Shaq, 

790
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,160
Duncan, Steph Hakeem. 
That's kind of the list, right? 

791
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,720
You want to throw in an Oscar 
Robertson? 

792
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,720
I wrote down Jerry West as well,
who won a ton of the as, as an 

793
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,680
executive one, as a as a player.
And I know that that haunted him

794
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,680
forever. 
But the ring culture has changed

795
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,240
how we perceive all these 
athletes, right? 

796
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,440
There is, and I guess on some 
level there should be a stark 

797
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,840
separation between somebody, 
yes, for sure, Jordan and Ewing 

798
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,080
or Jordan and Barkley. 
But are you telling me as now I 

799
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,480
get to the NFL list that there 
is such a difference between say

800
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,640
a Brett Favre who's got one or 
an Aaron Rodgers who has one 

801
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,960
versus Josh Allen 10/12/15 years
down the road? 

802
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,560
And if there is, the next 
question is, is that right? 

803
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440
Should that be the case? 
Now, I, I think you could very 

804
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,280
easily say no. 
And listen, I'm not talking 

805
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,960
about Tom Brady's got 7 or 
Montana, Montana's got 4 or 

806
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,280
Peyton's got a couple or Mahomes
who has three. 

807
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Like I look at the quarterback 
list and for me it's Brady, 

808
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,760
Montana, it's Peyton, it's 
Mahomes. 

809
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,120
After that, you want to throw a 
little love to Unitus and Elway 

810
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,000
Moreno and I'll get back to him 
because he, he has none. 

811
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,080
And the farms, the Rogers, you 
know, the Steve Young's who's 

812
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,040
got a couple. 
Bradshaw, who I never saw play 

813
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,520
in his prime, he's got 4. 
Staubach's got 2. 

814
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,920
But Staubach served obviously 
came over at the age of 2829, 

815
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,840
would have had more. 
Tarkenton went to, I believe it 

816
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,040
was 4 Super Bowls that are in 
the 70s with Minnesota. 

817
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Never won, but all time great. 
So somebody like Josh Allen, who

818
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,160
based on the circumstances of 
some horrendous officiating, his

819
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,800
season's over, all right now. 
Unfortunately, what happens is 

820
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880
that the details get lost in the
laundry. 

821
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:35,000
So now as lazy people, 
uninformed people, people who 

822
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,080
really just like to scream and 
shout but don't really know what

823
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,320
they're talking about and really
don't really care about sports 

824
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,320
the way we do, or at least most 
of us do, they will parachute 

825
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
in. 
Let's say it's 12 years from 

826
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,000
now. 
Josh is retiring. 

827
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,640
All right, We're now he's on the
back end. 

828
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,960
And the Bills are horrendous and
they're nowhere near a 

829
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,480
championship window shut. 
No championships you'll hear on 

830
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880
if they're still debate shows at
that point right on TV, who 

831
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160
knows anything, it'll be on TV 
at that point. 

832
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,400
Conventionally, probably not. 
And you will hear people 

833
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,840
parachute in. 
Oh, can't be an old time. 

834
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,200
Great. 
It's got no rings. 

835
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,040
And I think, I think that that 
is the height of laziness. 

836
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,160
I really can't stand that. 
There's no, there's no subtext 

837
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,240
there. 
There's no substance, there's no

838
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:23,880
depth, there's no intelligence. 
It's such a lazy statement and 

839
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,280
it's lazy frustrating because 
it's really you can't refute 

840
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,520
that that fact like that is a 
fact that Dan Marino no 

841
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,280
championships. 
I can't be as good as Joe 

842
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Montana. 
Let me ask you something. 

843
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,240
Now I know that Joe was clutch 
and Joe was amazing. 4 Super 

844
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,400
Bowls, four wins, never lost. 
I got it. 

845
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,520
West Coast offense innovator 
Walsh, Jerry Rice. 

846
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,200
We know. 
Are you trying to tell me that 

847
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,960
if Dan Marino played for Bill 
Walsh, you know, and had that 

848
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,240
crew and Dan Marino's thrown to 
Jerry Rice, that Dan Marino has 

849
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,160
no championships? 
Are you trying to tell me that? 

850
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,680
So it's just basically the 
presence literally of a ring of 

851
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,960
an object that's so quickly 
elevates or or in the case of 

852
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,760
precipitously drops in the minds
of some of you, the totality. 

853
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,720
Of one's career. 
I think that that's I think that

854
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:19,360
that's so inherently weak. 
Robert Huertas, what up, Rob? 

855
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,720
Big fan. 
He's been checking it a lot. 

856
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,920
I appreciate it. 
All right, BT is a Jets fan. 

857
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
I think these two years with the
picks we have is a make and 

858
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,080
break for the franchise more 
than any other season in our 

859
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,600
history. 
Do you agree? 

860
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,320
Yeah. 
I, I, I, I kind of do. 

861
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,920
I want to do a lot more of that.
Robert, I appreciate you hitting

862
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,960
me up with that. 
No doubt. 

863
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,280
We've already kind of gotten 
into and bothers a couple of 

864
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,840
players. 
Certainly won in in terms of 

865
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,240
Miami tonight for and I'll give 
you a thought on the national 

866
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,400
championship before we bounce. 
But you know, I mean is is is 

867
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,480
Bane worthy of going? 
You know, I I don't know if I'd 

868
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,800
take them to some might. 
But you know, if The Jets trade 

869
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,400
out, they can get him to get the
edge rusher. 

870
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640
I mean, this little window here.
I don't know that The Jets have 

871
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,120
the right coach. 
I do believe that The Jets have 

872
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,040
the right general manager. 
So I feel pretty emboldened, 

873
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,400
even though The Jets are 
unwatchably and unspeakably 

874
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,600
without a shred of entertainment
value and a shred of intrigue 

875
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
during the games this year. 
You know, once you got past the 

876
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,160
halfway point and they and they 
made the trades. 

877
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,440
But like this, this army of 
draft equity, if it doesn't 

878
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,720
propel The Jets, I mean that it.
Eventually, I don't mean any 

879
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,640
year that. 
It really just might be time to 

880
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,400
to close up shop because that 
might be the, that might be a 

881
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,720
wrap. 
There might be nothing else to 

882
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,360
say at that point, but I do. 
Robert, I'm with you. 

883
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560
I do think it represents, you 
know, to maybe to be a prisoner 

884
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,120
of the moment. 
Do I want to say the most? 

885
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,560
I mean, it's a little hyperbolic
for me because remember The Jets

886
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,480
when The Jets traded Keyshawn, 
The Jets had four first round 

887
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,920
picks in 2000. 
They took a quarterback in Chad 

888
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,000
Pennington. 
They took a tight end That 

889
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,440
didn't really work out. 
He's good on the games. 

890
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,960
And Beck was fine as a tight 
end, but he wasn't, he wasn't a 

891
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,320
matchup problem. 
Anthony Beck. 

892
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,920
And I liked him coming out of 
West Virginia. 

893
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,120
I really liked him. 
And then of course, they picked 

894
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Abraham and Sean Elvis, who 
changed the complexity of their 

895
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,240
defense. 
And obviously The Jets had some 

896
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:07,320
really competitive years with 
Herman and some other coaches. 

897
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,640
So yes, this is going to really 
set them up to be either, you 

898
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,240
know, relevant or invisible like
they have been. 

899
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,040
So let me give you another thing
about Josh and his whole 

900
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,680
ringless and and ring culture, 
which is just too bottom line 

901
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,040
for me. 
I think it just lacks too much 

902
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,720
nuance and and and it bothers 
me, right? 

903
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,680
But let's just say Josh Allen 
hit you with some numbers here, 

904
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,200
right? 
So he's already got the. 

905
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,240
MVP, so he can't say. 
That like P and I know Eli is 

906
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,760
not a knocking Eli, it's just an
example to keep the conversation

907
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,960
going. 
Like people, to me, they, they 

908
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,640
take issue when I try to place 
Eli in the proper tier. 

909
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,520
So hear this first. 
Yes, he's a Hall of Famer. 

910
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,360
Yes, he's going to go in. 
Of course he's going to be in 

911
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,880
the Hall of Fame and he should 
be because he made some of the 

912
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,920
most clutch throws against 
iconic teams, coaches, players 

913
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,520
beat Brady. 
Of course he's a Hall of Famer. 

914
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,600
That does not mean that Eli 
during the regular season over 

915
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,640
his basically 20 year career was
really ever not, let alone not 

916
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,040
even consistently ever really 
among the best 2-3 quarterbacks 

917
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,480
for in football. 
I mean, you're watching Brady, 

918
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
you're watching Drew Brees, 
you're watching these guys 

919
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,680
slinging Matt Ryan won an MVP. 
You look at these guys put up 

920
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,800
these sick numbers and and I 
know in terms of the the 

921
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,000
ultimate accomplishment, yards, 
touchdowns, Eli's there 

922
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,720
understood. 
But like, you know when you were

923
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,480
betting or when you were doing 
your fantasy drafts back then, 

924
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,560
were you running to take Eli? 
The answer is no. 

925
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,720
Now, if Eli's your quarterback 
of your team, you think you got 

926
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,000
a chance to win because he's 
durable, he's reliable, he's 

927
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,960
emotionally reliable, he's 
tough, he's clutch. 

928
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,040
I'm not trying to denigrate Eli,
but I do think it's really 

929
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,480
interesting how somebody like 
Eli Manning, who's got 2 

930
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,360
championships and let's say 
Josh. 

931
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,600
Wins none, you tell. 
Me who's been like the better 

932
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,480
quarterback for the moment they 
stepped in the league. 

933
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,720
I don't even think it's close. 
It's Josh Hellman and it's like 

934
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:10,480
the the ultimate achievements 
that that bottom line 

935
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,840
accomplishment, which is 
dependent upon so many things. 

936
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,280
Do you have a good GM? 
Do you have good ownership? 

937
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Do you have a good old line? 
Do you have a good defense? 

938
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,600
You know, are you lucky in terms
of injuries? 

939
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,800
You know, are you the 
beneficiary of of a favorable 

940
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,840
call or do you get screwed by a 
shit call, which we've seen many

941
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,280
times, including this weekend. 
So there are a lot of variables 

942
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,600
there. 
But now, again, just to finish 

943
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,000
the thought, let's push it 
forward 10/12/15 years Josh 

944
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Allen either at the end or 
retired. 

945
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,440
So right now he's got 220 
touchdowns. 

946
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,360
He's got 30,000 yards. 
He's already got 5000 rushing 

947
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,760
yards. 
He already got 79 rushing 

948
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,120
touchdowns, which is by far the 
most in the end in NFL history. 

949
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,560
I know the game's changed a lot.
So you've got a, you've got to, 

950
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,480
you know, incorporate that to 
the evaluation. 

951
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,560
But Josh Allen is an absolute 
monster now. 

952
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,080
He's got a lot of football to go
and the rules of the game will 

953
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,840
allow him to play for a long 
time. 

954
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,080
He's a big, strong, fast, 
dedicated quarterback who knock 

955
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,840
on wood is going to be playing 
for another 10 years and is 

956
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,600
going to be incredibly like 
relevant in terms of MVPS and 

957
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,560
being on the upper echelon of 
quarterbacks for at least six or

958
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,960
seven. 
And I think that that's being 

959
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,760
conservative, right. 
So I say all that and now I push

960
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,480
it forward statistically, you 
know, there is AI was doing the 

961
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,320
numbers before the show. 
There is a good chance that if 

962
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,440
you just, I'm just doubling, 
it's a simple math, but then 

963
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,840
I'll contextualize it. 
If he goes from 220 touchdowns 

964
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,040
to 4:40, that is sixth in NFL 
history just throwing. 

965
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,480
If he goes from 30,000 yards and
you double it, it's 60,000 

966
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,320
yards, which would be obviously 
I think it's like 9 or 10 or so,

967
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,240
right? 
And then obviously at that point

968
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,360
he's over 10,000 yards. 
Tink he's got 10,000 yards as a 

969
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,200
running back and you're going to
Josh Allen is going to have more

970
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,520
yards running than tiki and some
great running backs in NFL 

971
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,000
history. 
Not to mention that at that 

972
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,560
point you have it. 
You know if if he double s the 

973
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,280
rushing touchdowns 160 rushing 
touchdowns now are you trying to

974
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,800
tell me and I know he didn't 
play well he made some 

975
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,320
horrendous throws in that game 
just didn't see things I'm like 

976
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,960
how did you not see that? 
How did you throw that? 

977
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,680
How did you do that? 
I'm not defending his 

978
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,360
performance this weekend. 
He fucked all right, but what 

979
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680
are the Buffalo Bills without 
him? 

980
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,000
Do the Bills have a slew of 
great receivers? 

981
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,160
You know, like not this year, 
but like Mahomes had for a 

982
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,200
couple of years, you know, got a
couple of reliable tight ends. 

983
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,040
You've got a good running back. 
You've got a lot of injuries. 

984
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
You you lost Stefan Biggs how 
Biggs look over the weekend 

985
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,560
pretty good. 
How did he do? 

986
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,880
It's just there's just, I don't 
take this the wrong way, but 

987
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:03,160
there's just a lot of stupid, 
stupid, baseless opinions that 

988
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,360
more and more coming from people
who don't know what the hell 

989
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,600
they're talking about. 
And I, you know, I, I can't let 

990
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,800
that happen, at least on my 
show, you know, I'm going to 

991
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,360
have to fight back against those
people because a lot of those 

992
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,640
peoples, a lot of those people 
either didn't play and listen, 

993
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,840
it doesn't matter. 
Like, oh, you didn't play in the

994
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,120
pros. 
I know I'm not even talking 

995
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,280
about me. 
But if you played something, 

996
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,920
even if you were just a really 
good high school player, like a 

997
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,560
good player and a good program, 
you like you went through the 

998
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,280
rigors of training. 
And I say that because I think 

999
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,760
if you, and then obviously next 
level will be college, 

1000
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,280
especially if it's D1. 
And then maybe if you bounced 

1001
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,880
around the minors, whatever it 
might be, or played overseas in 

1002
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,440
basketball or even football. 
Now to me, you just have a 

1003
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,160
deeper understanding and a 
deeper appreciation of what you 

1004
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,200
can and what you cannot control.
Like that's why I say I'm not 

1005
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,800
saying I'm smarter than people. 
Some people I'm not saying I I 

1006
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,920
love sports more than some some 
I do some I don't, you know, 

1007
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,440
like if the Yankees lose a 
regular season game, All right, 

1008
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,120
I mean, I don't love it, but 
good night. 

1009
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,640
I'm going to bed. 
I got two kids. 

1010
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,600
I got a wife seen in the 
morning. 

1011
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,200
Let's go, let's do it again. 
Hit, you know, reboot. 

1012
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,960
Come on, 162. 
And and this is not a knock. 

1013
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,760
This is just a different level 
of fandom. 

1014
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,080
When the Mets lose a tough game,
Eric, Eric Evan is cranking up 

1015
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,400
the the show, the Rico, He's 
doing an hour and a half recap 

1016
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,200
like like it was Game 6 or game 
seven playoff series. 

1017
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,520
And I appreciate that. 
I respect that. 

1018
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,640
That's just not me, not at this 
stage, not for a regular season 

1019
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,560
game. 
But I do think that if you 

1020
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:43,720
played, you understand that it's
really hard to be great. 

1021
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,640
And I think too often greatness 
is stretched within the 

1022
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,640
boundaries. 
Like like this guy may have been

1023
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,480
really good, but great. 
No, no, like you can't have 9 

1024
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,680
great quarterbacks currently 
playing. 

1025
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,480
You can't. 
You could have your top ten 

1026
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,680
list, but but there's got to be 
a pecking order of all right, 

1027
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,800
once you get past, you know, on 
the Holmes A staffer who's going

1028
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,800
to win the MVP. 
You know, a Burrow when he's got

1029
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,240
some some defense around them 
playing meaningful games. 

1030
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,920
Josh Allen, Lamar, when he's 
healthy, he's got his act 

1031
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,640
together. 
Like there's there's some that 

1032
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,720
I'll and maybe one or two others
clearly, but there's some who 

1033
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,360
are great and there's others who
are good and this notion, this 

1034
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,160
nonsense just because he played 
all and he played terribly. 

1035
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,360
I mean, Josh Allen was bad, man,
but to think that that's going 

1036
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,320
to reposition him in my mind as 
a guy who was like, not great. 

1037
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,320
No way would you bet on Josh 
Allen to bounce back or to or to

1038
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,200
or to crumble further. 
I know my answer, you know. 

1039
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,520
And it's it's it's I. 
Think it started with the ring 

1040
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,360
culture I. 
Really. 

1041
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,720
Do I? 
Think it started with LeBron and

1042
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,240
I'm not even you know, I'm not a
big LeBron James fan and this 

1043
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:56,880
isn't even a knock. 
I'm just saying I'm not a big 

1044
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,480
fan at all. 
I think he's incredibly 

1045
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,120
arrogant. 
I think he's a little delusional

1046
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,000
with certain thing can't shine 
Jordan shoes. 

1047
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,080
I think he's so wrapped up in 
himself. 

1048
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,280
Like I don't know, he just turns
me off. 

1049
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,320
Not to mention like jumping into
some really important things 

1050
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,040
over the years without having 
all the facts. 

1051
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,960
Not a big LeBron James fan not 
but he's an amazing player. 

1052
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,920
But would he be viewed as the 
amazing player, the statistics 

1053
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,000
aside? 
Because Josh Allen's going to 

1054
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,240
have all those stats if he 
didn't, if he didn't go ring 

1055
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,880
chasing, like if he stayed with 
the Cavs, like Josh Allen in all

1056
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,480
probability will stay with the 
Bills. 

1057
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,680
And let's say Josh has none and 
Lebron's got 4 unless he gets 

1058
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,200
one more or he doesn't. 
Either way. 

1059
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,240
Like, think about what LeBron 
had to do to get those Now, you 

1060
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,840
know, All right, that's the 
modern NBA. 

1061
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:48,240
And it's, it's not illegal in 
the sense of, you know, doing it

1062
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:50,760
the old fashioned way. 
Maybe for some it's immoral. 

1063
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,280
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1064
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,240
You know, I'm stretching the 
boundaries on that word, 

1065
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:55,240
obviously, But you know what I 
mean? 

1066
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,120
I just, I've always been a guy 
that respects the grind more. 

1067
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,080
And even if the grind falls 
short, like Patrick Ewing, I 

1068
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,240
know it's so long ago at this 
point, but he's my guy. 

1069
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,160
So that's one of my points and 
references, right? 

1070
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,680
A guy like Ewing who is just 
willing and Nick team with no 

1071
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,840
true star next to him, you know,
going up against Jordan and 

1072
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,720
Pippen and Rodman and one of the
best coaches of all time. 

1073
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,360
And obviously he had Pat, but he
didn't have Pat for his entire 

1074
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:29,240
career, you know, So I tend to 
place more value in the the 

1075
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:34,160
great player who elevates an 
average team or slightly above 

1076
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,600
average to to a height that they
probably shouldn't be at. 

1077
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Then somebody like I'm not 
saying Pat's better than LeBron,

1078
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,600
but almost like more respect, 
just personal respect than 

1079
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,080
somebody who is in one 
situation, views another 

1080
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,360
situation as a quicker shortcut,
like basically the circumvent 

1081
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,680
some of the arduous things that 
you got to do to be a champion. 

1082
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,280
Jump in. 
Let me get Bosh. 

1083
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Let me go with my boy Wade. 
Let me win a couple now let me 

1084
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,720
go with Anthony Davis, win one 
in the bubble. 

1085
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,440
And people say I'm better than 
Jordan. 

1086
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,160
Why yes, better than Jordan. 
What better than Jordan stop. 

1087
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:11,680
And I, I think there's a lot of 
people that do miss the mark 

1088
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,920
because the championship, the 
ring has been so centralized. 

1089
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,720
And I think there's just a lot 
of lazy opinions out there. 

1090
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:24,600
Guys, are I really doing a lot 
of lot of lot of opinions I 

1091
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,760
don't respect, I don't subscribe
to, I really don't engage in 

1092
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,400
because I think, I think it's if
you try to have that debate with

1093
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,280
somebody who is all about the 
rings, you want to talk about 

1094
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,520
being frustrated. 
I mean, yeah. 

1095
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,520
But I, I, I can't, I'm not here 
to change your mind, just like 

1096
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,280
I'm not here to change your mind
about politics. 

1097
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Like if you believe what you 
believe, well, then you believe 

1098
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,320
what you believe. 
And some people are open minded,

1099
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,280
which and those are the people 
that you can have a political 

1100
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,840
discourse with. 
You know, they're not coming at 

1101
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,400
you with 9000 copy points, both 
sides, by the way, where they 

1102
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,920
just hammer you over the head. 
They don't listen to a word you 

1103
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,920
say. 
And as soon as you finish your 

1104
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,920
last syllable, they pound you 
with the five things that they 

1105
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,480
believe is wrong with your guy 
or your party or your opinion or

1106
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,000
your view, whatever. 
And a lot of it guys kind of the

1107
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,480
same in sports. 
It's not time for it. 

1108
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:17,120
I think it's it's lazy. 
So I mean Aaron Rodgers, who I 

1109
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,680
think is. 
Probably the most pure thrower 

1110
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,880
of the football, maybe the most 
pure quarterback ever. 

1111
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,880
Marino had more zip. 
Montana never lost. 

1112
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,920
Brady's the GOAT in terms of 
achievement. 

1113
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,320
I I think if you're looking at 
the conveyor belt for 

1114
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,920
quarterbacks, to me, Aaron 
Rodgers is the best smart, can 

1115
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,400
throw, can run accuracy, played 
a long time, but he's only got 

1116
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,040
1. 
So you try to tell me that guys 

1117
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,440
who have more, you know, I mean,
is, was that way really better 

1118
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,280
from A to I know Elway was 
amazing. 

1119
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,320
Interesting example to use 
because he was amazing like A-Z 

1120
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,120
was Elway truly better than 
Rodgers? 

1121
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,680
I don't know about that. 
How about this MK Adoza was 

1122
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,880
Jordan the greatest of all time 
in his first seven years? 

1123
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,800
He was ringless. 
No, but I don't know that 

1124
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,840
anybody's anointed the greatest 
of all time during their first 

1125
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,000
567 years. 
I think that that comes now 

1126
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,800
Mahomes a little bit a little 
different because longevity in 

1127
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,120
football is, is different than 
basketball. 

1128
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,080
Certainly baseball, certainly 
basketball now we play forever. 

1129
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,600
If you, you know, you avoid real
injuries, games different. 

1130
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,680
Whereas with the with the 
baseball too, you know, I mean, 

1131
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,720
if you come up early and you 
know, and you and you have 

1132
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,240
health, like Jeter play a little
time. 

1133
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,200
Mike Trout's been banged up a 
lot. 

1134
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,800
So that resume is going to look 
very different. 

1135
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,840
Aaron Judge came up late because
he played in college. 

1136
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,320
That resume is going to look a 
little different, probably fall 

1137
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,560
short of some of the old time 
greats. 

1138
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,160
And when I say old time greats, 
I'm talking about Ruth and and 

1139
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,960
Garrick's a little different 
with some of the RBI totals. 

1140
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:45,560
But or Ruth and Aaron unusual 
like a Ted Williams, he's going 

1141
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,440
to fall a little bit short in 
some of those benchmark 

1142
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,160
departments. 
But are you telling me that if 

1143
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,920
I'm sitting in the grandstand in
1920, whatever and I'm watching 

1144
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,000
Babe Ruth play, that Babe Ruth 
was better than Aaron Judge? 

1145
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,600
You could tell me that I'm I'm 
I'm not buying it. 

1146
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360
I'm not believing it. 
But if Aaron Judge finishes with

1147
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,520
no rings, all the dissenting 
voices and all the detractors 

1148
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,440
never going to ring, drop the 
pop up in the World Series. 

1149
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,640
I know, I know I just placed a 
little more value on on the 

1150
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,280
entire spectrum of 1's career. 
And I think with that that last 

1151
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:25,040
text there with with Jordan. 
I know this going. 

1152
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,080
Find it on YouTube because I've 
done it in the past. 

1153
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,720
It's awesome. 
Go and find a clip from Bobby 

1154
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,240
Knight. 
I'm not even a fan of Bobby 

1155
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,000
Knight. 
I thought Bobby Knight was 

1156
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,000
actually a pompous ass. 
Some of the things he said to 

1157
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,600
female reporters. 
Not a fan at all. 

1158
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,600
Actually a jerk and but a great 
coach. 

1159
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,840
And he said it was after the 84,
I think it was the IT was, well,

1160
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,640
the Olympics, but all like the 
Olympic trials, like Mullen was 

1161
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,080
there, Saint John's, MJ was 
there. 

1162
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,200
I think like Perkins and and 
maybe what was worthy there, Sam

1163
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Perkins was there. 
Steve Allford from Indiana 

1164
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,880
played for coach Knight. 
Anyway, Bobby Knight said this 

1165
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,760
before Jordan was even in the 
NBA. 

1166
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,600
He's the greatest player he's 
ever seen. 

1167
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,000
And Bobby Knight was not one for
hyperbole or showering people 

1168
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,320
with unnecessary praise. 
He didn't even praise Steve 

1169
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Alford, his own guy who was a 
sharpshooter and one of the 

1170
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,920
great college players, you know,
maybe ever. 

1171
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,640
Steve Alford. 
I mean, he threw around praise 

1172
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,840
like, you know, you can throw 
around a manhole cover. 

1173
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,840
You just can't move it much. 
So I I get it's a good, it's a 

1174
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,800
good point. 
We weren't sitting here saying, 

1175
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,480
oh, Jordan's the GOAT five years
in. 

1176
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,960
But we also didn't have GOAT 
conversations. 

1177
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:39,440
I didn't once, not once, not 
once in my entire childhood did 

1178
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,760
I have a debate with anybody 
about like I, I never heard the,

1179
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,280
the acronym GOAT, like it just 
it's fairly recent really. 

1180
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,520
And again, it's basically from 
LeBron and then MJ, the 

1181
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,120
championships and all that. 
And now the quarterback he, 

1182
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,040
Payton was, was feeling this 
like, come on, you better win, 

1183
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,080
right? 
Better win #2 Aaron Rodgers. 

1184
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,000
Hey, you going to win #2 Like to
validate that, you have to 

1185
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,920
validate anything. 
I watch Aaron Rodgers play. 

1186
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,320
I watch him play Cal. 
I watched him play after 4 was 

1187
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,640
gone and he took over. 
And I watched Sunday night game 

1188
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,280
after Monday night game after 
425 game his entire career when 

1189
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,840
he was at his prime. 
And I have never seen anybody 

1190
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,240
play the position better than 
Aaron Rodgers. 

1191
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,200
But you'll have people who jump 
in, oh, Montana's got 4, he's 

1192
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,920
better. 
What? 

1193
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,240
No, he's not. 
I don't even think Tom Brady was

1194
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,160
better than Aaron Rodgers. 
But yeah, obviously there's a 

1195
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,440
statistical GOAT and an 
accumulation GOAT, and then 

1196
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,960
there's there's other 
interpretations. 

1197
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,400
It's just frustrating, man. 
It really is. 

1198
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,800
And you know, somebody like 
Terry Bradshaw who you know, you

1199
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,080
look up, I know it's a very 
different NFL and I don't want 

1200
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,480
to even go back that far because
it's, it's not even applicable 

1201
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,680
at this point. 
But you look at Terry Bradshaw's

1202
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,320
first couple of years, I think 
Terry's first year, I think he 

1203
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,800
had like 6 touchdowns and 21 
picks, something like that. 

1204
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,720
Something crazy where they were 
saying in Pittsburgh, where I'm 

1205
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,400
not saying this, where they were
saying he was stupid and he was 

1206
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,560
dumb and he couldn't handle the 
playbook. 

1207
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,640
Not smart enough to to digest 
the playbook at the NFL level. 

1208
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,800
They were calling him an idiot. 
Like that was the word on the 

1209
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,440
street. 
Terry Bradshaw not smart and he.

1210
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,040
Won four championships, but 
like, is he winning anything 

1211
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,000
without me and Joe Green and 
that great defense with Chuck 

1212
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,840
Knoll? 
I'm not saying he never made any

1213
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,080
clutch throws here, but like, 
Brad Shows got 4. 

1214
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,000
Josh Allen might have none. 
And you want to tell me that 

1215
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Brad Shows better than Josh 
Allen? 

1216
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,440
Not by Matt, not by my 
measurement, None. 

1217
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,440
Would you agree with that? 
I go mji. 

1218
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,720
Go Kareem, I go LeBron, I go 
Bird. 

1219
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,160
I go Magic. 
Those are my top five, right? 

1220
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,280
Just to quickly encapsulate 
that. 

1221
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:52,560
And then I would go and I 
usually do Brady 1, Montana 2. 

1222
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,320
You know, if Mahomes didn't get.
Hurt in the last couple of 

1223
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,320
years, the numbers have been a 
little, little, little lean 

1224
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,480
statistically, but I I'll still 
say Peyton 3, Mahomes 4. 

1225
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,520
And then that fifth spot is 
obviously up for interpretation,

1226
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,480
you know? 
But the slander of some of these

1227
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,840
players is absolutely. 
Insane. 

1228
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,640
I don't get it. 
All right, let me give you a 

1229
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,400
little baseball vote here. 
Get those. 

1230
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Get those texts coming here, 
Jared doing a good job putting 

1231
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,680
them up. 
If you want to jump in a little 

1232
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,720
bit easier to see the Super 
chats, I'll read them. 

1233
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Listen, by the way, the 
beautiful thing about this too 

1234
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,880
is that less than you want to be
is all over the map. 

1235
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,760
But this is going to be more 
free flowing. 

1236
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,560
I'm going to come in every day 
with three or four things I want

1237
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,640
to hit. 
I'm going to give you something.

1238
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,600
Hopefully I'm going to give you 
something that's compelling, 

1239
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,960
something to react to. 
Very like without that, you've 

1240
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,440
got no show. 
It's not like me coming in and 

1241
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,360
throwing out a phone number and 
taking numbers because the 

1242
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,160
phone's not even set up yet. 
Which it will be. 

1243
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,160
And that will be Jared's job to 
answer them. 

1244
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,680
And by the way, to figure out 
how to actually hook it up. 

1245
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,560
We bought the number. 
The rest is on Jared. 

1246
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,760
Jared, you got to get that thing
going. 

1247
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,160
So I take a lot of pride in in 
having several things that you 

1248
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,640
are ready to engage in, react to
whether you would disagree or 

1249
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,840
agree. 
It's it's it's really 

1250
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,080
irrelevant. 
Just something that sparks 

1251
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,320
thought sparks intelligent 
conversation. 

1252
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,080
All right, But I am totally OK 
with taking a quick side turn, 

1253
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,840
whether it's a story, you know, 
I got a ton of crazy stories. 

1254
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,000
Some I can tell, some I can, but
I'll I'll tell someones that I 

1255
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,520
couldn't even tell on the radio 
overtime. 

1256
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,840
I promise you it's got to make 
sure the kids are in school. 

1257
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,360
If I can't say any today. 
And I think it's fun to be able 

1258
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,760
to bounce around a little bit. 
I think it's it's a freedom and 

1259
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,880
it's it's a latitude that I have
here that you don't necessarily 

1260
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,400
have doing, you know, 
conventional terrestrial radio 

1261
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,720
where you're again, you're 
beholden to a clock and and just

1262
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,000
different things. 
So this is this is this fun at 

1263
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:47,320
at telly lot 77 growing up. 
Yes, that's true, absolutely 

1264
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,920
true. 
That's a great point. 

1265
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,640
Man, I I forgot about that. 
Growing up being the GOAT was 

1266
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,040
actually considered a bad thing.
It means you choked. 

1267
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,040
I remember. 
Oh God, who was the elders not 

1268
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,560
nodding? 
Who was the illustrator? 

1269
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,400
The in in the newspapers and the
Daily News growing up, like when

1270
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,040
the Yanks and probably really 
more the Mets because the Mets 

1271
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,280
were in the playoffs more 8688. 
I didn't see the Yankees in the 

1272
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,880
playoffs until 95. 
Really. 

1273
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,240
I remember 8181 and then 95, as 
I've said, and after a bad game,

1274
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,520
like if a pitcher got rocked, 
you get the goat horns. 

1275
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,880
Yeah, go to the game. 
That is true. 

1276
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,600
Talk about completely flipping 
the absolute meaning of that. 

1277
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,360
Oh, my good God. 
Wow. 

1278
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,160
That is true. 
That is absolutely true. 

1279
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,840
The goat horn. 
You did not want to get the goat

1280
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,680
horns. 
Now it's all about being the 

1281
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,800
GOAT. 
Yeah. 

1282
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Joseph Mehring. 
What up? 

1283
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,680
BT God bless, bro. 
Much love for Marine Park. 

1284
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,960
That is my hometown. 
Thank you very much, dude. 

1285
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,000
I appreciate that you didn't 
have to do that, man. 

1286
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,440
That's that's completely 
unnecessary. 

1287
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,320
But I certainly appreciate it. 
And Marine Park is still holding

1288
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,960
up, man. 
I don't. 

1289
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,880
You know, it's funny. 
I don't go back home much 

1290
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,680
anymore only because it's easier
for my parents to come here 

1291
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,560
because we have more room and 
they've got, you know, in the 

1292
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,560
basement, they've got basically 
a bedroom and a shower and it's 

1293
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,360
just a little more space. 
But what a great place to grow 

1294
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,480
up. 
Look, great play. 

1295
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,200
There was always a game on the 
street. 

1296
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,520
Ton of athletes, you know, ton 
of good teams, you know, parents

1297
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,680
were all invested and and 
watching after each other. 

1298
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,920
It was just different. 
I mean not just Marine Park, but

1299
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,880
like growing up in the 80s and 
into the 90s in high school. 

1300
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,240
You got to do whatever you want,
like you had to, really. 

1301
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,600
Be sloppy to get caught doing 
something. 

1302
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,720
You know what? 
I got a funny story for you. 

1303
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,080
I got 1 before. 
I was just thinking about this, 

1304
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,280
right? 
So now my dad, as you know, is 

1305
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,080
retired detective, didn't miss 
anything. 

1306
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,280
Now, at this point, he made the 
transition to the business 

1307
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,920
sector, right? 
Suit and tie, owned his own 

1308
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,520
business. 
And that's why we went from like

1309
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,040
cars that were like 12 years old
that you hope weren't going to 

1310
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,360
break down on the side of the 
road like the Impala, whatever 

1311
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,600
it was, you know, and rolling 
windows down to suddenly we got 

1312
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,840
a new car. 
Things changed, right? 

1313
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:02,040
So I remember, man, I didn't 
even have my license yet. 

1314
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,000
God, what an idiotic move on my 
part. 

1315
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,680
And I know he's watching. 
If my son or daughter ever did 

1316
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,560
this day, it would be the that 
would be it. 

1317
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,200
Like you, just I. 
I can't. 

1318
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,000
I wanted. 
To go get a haircut, right? 

1319
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,240
And my dad left, he always left 
the car there cuz he would take 

1320
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,800
the train into into New York 
City. 

1321
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,040
I like. 
I was with my buddy Pat. 

1322
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,720
And Timmy and we go to Ginger 
Rose Haircut by Sheepshead Bay. 

1323
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,600
The diner used to be their great
haircuts. 

1324
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Matter of fact, I don't know if 
it's there anymore. 

1325
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,640
And even if it is, it doesn't 
matter. 

1326
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,960
I don't have any hair. 
But like they would give great 

1327
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,400
flat tops and all like the lines
in your head. 

1328
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,000
And in the, in the late 80s, 
early 90s when everybody was 

1329
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,280
doing that, they were 
phenomenal. 

1330
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,120
And the owner, one of the owners
was from Astor Place in 

1331
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,520
Manhattan, which is the 1st 
place I used to go to. 

1332
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,800
I remember my freshman year in 
high school, a couple of us from

1333
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,360
the basketball team would go and
get like really cool haircuts 

1334
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,000
for basketball. 
Anyway, so we go there and I 

1335
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,360
want to go get a haircut. 
So I take the car and I have a 

1336
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,600
license. 
So my dad comes. 

1337
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,640
How brazen is that? 
Wouldn't it? 

1338
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,480
Now? 
I did. 

1339
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,520
I'm not thinking about the legal
ramifications. 

1340
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,520
Thank God. 
God was on my side at that 

1341
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,760
point. 
But I'm 16 years old and I'm not

1342
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,640
really thinking. 
So take the car and and I didn't

1343
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,440
get caught, but I guess I parked
it again. 

1344
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:31,080
Detective Roots, he sees the 
cars maybe up 9 inches from 

1345
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,080
where he left it from the night 
before. 

1346
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,720
Now he didn't think that I 
would, that I would do that, 

1347
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,000
that I would like have the 
stones to do that. 

1348
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,560
And somehow I did. 
So he comes in and he's 

1349
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,800
incredulous. 
And when my dad was mad, there 

1350
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,680
was like, it was, I was scared 
shit. 

1351
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,800
I've always said like in a good 
way, like in a respectful way, 

1352
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,200
in a fearful way. 
Great guy. 

1353
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,160
You heard him on The Fan. 
Amazing guy. 

1354
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,880
My last show, Great, great 
person sit there, watch the 

1355
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,800
Knicks in the basement, watch 
baseball. 

1356
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,440
Like he didn't care if it was 
school and it was respect if I 

1357
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,120
was disrespectful to my mom, 
which was almost never because I

1358
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,320
learned my lesson early, or my 
sister, that was it. 

1359
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,200
Or if I really messed up in 
school, that was it. 

1360
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,120
Everything else, he really, he 
was just like, yeah, you're a 

1361
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,640
kid. 
Do you think so? 

1362
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,040
He comes home and he's like, did
you take the car today? 

1363
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,560
Like I couldn't believe that I 
would do it. 

1364
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,720
I'm like, no, there's no way. 
Why would I do the car? 

1365
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,600
No. 
So he's like, all right. 

1366
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,120
He's like I, you know, and he 
believed me. 

1367
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,880
And usually when I was lying, he
didn't believe me. 

1368
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,120
He bought that. 1 So I said to. 
Myself, I go, well that was 

1369
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,320
easy, I guess I'll take it again
like 2 days, whatever it was. 

1370
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,760
So I do it again. 
Now the tone completely changes.

1371
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,640
He goes, Did you take the car 
today? 

1372
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:58,000
Like it went from you didn't 
take the car, did it to what I 

1373
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,360
just said, no, there's no way. 
Why do you keep asking me this? 

1374
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,040
Well, I didn't no. 
The next day or it was either 

1375
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,440
like the next day or two days 
after that, he took a piece of 

1376
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,640
chalk and he on one of the 
tires, one of the front tires 

1377
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,720
made a white line small like I 
couldn't see it. 

1378
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:21,000
So that when I took the car 
again, which I did, if it wasn't

1379
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:26,279
parked right on the white line, 
which he made, then that was the

1380
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,600
answer. 
And let's just say that he got 

1381
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,880
the answer very quick. 
And BT had a rough couple of 

1382
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,760
weeks there. 
But no, that's where he parked 

1383
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,640
for it. 
That's, that's kind of the 80s 

1384
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:36,760
nineties. 
You push the envelope. 

1385
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:38,760
But thank you for reaching out, 
man. 

1386
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:43,800
So the, the Bellinger stuff here
very quickly on the on the, on 

1387
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,359
the Yanks and the Mets. 
Listen, I mean, I understand 

1388
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:47,800
that the Yankees haven't done a 
damn thing. 

1389
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,840
And I understand I really like 
what the Mets did with Beau 

1390
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,520
Bichette. 
Matter of fact, I identified 

1391
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,479
Beau Bichette as a better fit 
for the Mets. 

1392
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,120
And I wasn't alone. 
I'm not trying to say I was the 

1393
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,840
only one who thought this 
because a lot of people felt 

1394
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,000
that, you know, Tucker, does he 
love baseball and hearing some 

1395
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,640
weird things out of Chicago, Is 
he all in and what kind of deal 

1396
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,600
you're going to give him in? 
There's not a great fit 

1397
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,880
defensively with soda, whatever,
somebody's going to have to 

1398
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,160
switch position. 
So there were some interesting 

1399
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,160
conversations about him at that 
point and and I or I just 

1400
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,160
thought Bichette would be 
better. 

1401
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,760
I thought, you know, short term,
he's not going to get the 9 or 

1402
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,880
10 years which Toronto offered 
him at that point, right? 

1403
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,200
And he and he turned it down. 
So short term. 

1404
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,960
Now you got to figure things, 
some things out. 

1405
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,560
Obviously Detroit, Beatty, 
whatever you do, but I just 

1406
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,680
thought a righty stick. 
I mean, you look at it, Lindor 

1407
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,920
1, Bichette 2, Soto 3. 
It's great. 

1408
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,240
It's a very now they got a lot 
more to do pitching whatever and

1409
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,760
you see what maybe you trade 
Beatty, maybe you get Peralta, 

1410
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,640
maybe he's involved in that. 
Maybe the spro whatever to 

1411
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,439
school ball. 
I I don't know. 

1412
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,359
I don't know what's going to 
happen. 

1413
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:47,600
But the Mets I do not believe 
believe we're done. 

1414
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,840
We know the Yankees are done 
with their negotiations on Cody 

1415
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,360
Bellinger. 
And, you know, I'm able, some 

1416
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,800
are, and I'm able to totally 
separate my thoughts about the 

1417
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,400
Yankees and my thoughts about 
the Mets. 

1418
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,960
And my thoughts about the 
Yankees is more personal at this

1419
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,000
point. 
I am with the Yankees in terms 

1420
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,480
of not not upping that a dime. 
I don't think he's that good. 

1421
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:11,200
Like, for the more. 
Oh, we're getting desperate. 

1422
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,400
Oh, we didn't get this guy. 
Oh, my God, what are we going to

1423
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,080
do? 
All right, we only want to go 5 

1424
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,440
for 160. 
You know what? 

1425
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:20,120
Oh, God, what are we, 7 for 175 
with 190? 

1426
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,960
Here you go, Boris. 
We genuflect to you. 

1427
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,240
No way. 
Like Bellinger to me is a really

1428
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,760
good player who fits the Yankees
really well and seemingly had a 

1429
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,880
really good time in the Bronx. 
And I hope he stays and you 

1430
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,800
know, with the opt outs and the 
creative language in terms of 

1431
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,200
the maybe heftier bonus, 
hopefully it doesn't incentivize

1432
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,840
him soon to sign a contract with
the Yankees. 

1433
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,760
And now from that point, you 
will merely be where you were a 

1434
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,600
year ago, not necessarily taking
a step forward. 

1435
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,840
And this is becoming one of the 
main issues with the Yankees. 

1436
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,920
Like, you get to the World 
Series with Soda now. 

1437
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,120
They tried to, I mean, they 
offered him a ton of money. 

1438
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,360
Wanted to be a Met. 
That's fine. 

1439
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,080
Took the most money. 
Mets made concessions. 

1440
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,680
Soda went there. 
I don't care. 

1441
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,160
Move on. 
I wanted him to stay. 

1442
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,840
He's not here. 
I'm not going to cry about it. 

1443
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,280
I stopped immediately, Right. 
He's a hell of a hitter. 

1444
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,200
He left the Yankees. 
I can process that. 

1445
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,160
I'm a big boy, but they didn't 
get better like they so they 

1446
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,360
lost Soto and they brought in 
Belgium and I like to pivot 

1447
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,400
defensively and I thought Devin 
Williams will be better. 

1448
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,360
All the things we talked about, 
right, but the pivot did not add

1449
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,840
to what they were the year 
before. 

1450
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,400
The pivot mere merely gave them 
a chance to get back to which 

1451
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,760
they didn't because they didn't 
get to the World Series what 

1452
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,360
they were the year before. 
So now you look at that you say 

1453
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,120
well OK, let's say if Bellinger 
goes to the Mets or let's say if

1454
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,160
Bellinger now let's say I mean 
Toronto's not going to get 10 

1455
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,120
years, but let's say if they 
come eight with two two change, 

1456
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,680
whatever my let's go. 
I mean, 40 * 8 is there's no way

1457
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:51,960
that one's getting $320 million,
but 290 / 8 or 270 and he's 

1458
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,640
like, Yep, I'm taking going to 
Toronto. 

1459
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:00,080
Well, the Yankees will have 
another offseason where they 

1460
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,800
lost somebody of significance 
and were unable or unwilling or 

1461
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,680
a combination of both to add to 
it. 

1462
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,600
That's not how you win a World 
Series. 

1463
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,880
The way you win a World Series 
is you put your best foot 

1464
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,280
forward. 
You see what you have, you see 

1465
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,640
where the deficiencies are and 
then you add to them. 

1466
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,600
You don't you don't you don't 
lose and then Ed merely get to 

1467
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,880
get back to where you were. 
And that's the problem with the 

1468
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,760
Yankees last couple of off 
seasons here. 

1469
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,880
I know they've got some young 
guys that want to further 

1470
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,440
evaluate. 
We've gone over this a million, 

1471
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:32,560
a million a million a million 
ways sideways a million. 

1472
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,600
I do think the Yankees pitching 
is going to be phenomenal. 

1473
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,280
I do think right when it's all 
said and done and healthy call 

1474
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,200
back etcetera rolled on, they 
slip. 

1475
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,560
There's going to be a be a 
beast. 

1476
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,360
I think they might get Peralta. 
You know, even the kid Weathers 

1477
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,920
throws 97 is a lefty and he's 
thought that really good stuff. 

1478
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,360
81st percentile Major League 
Baseball fastball. 

1479
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,600
So they got to get the bullpen 
straight. 

1480
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,800
They got to get another righty 
stick, which why I wanted them 

1481
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,720
to get Bichette. 
The point is, though, if the 

1482
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,320
Mets get Bellinger, I will and 
it and it's they're not going to

1483
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,080
get him for 5/1/60. 
They're going to have to go more

1484
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,120
terms, more AAV. 
And if they do that, Congrats to

1485
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,040
the Mets. 
I'm not going to, hey, if you 

1486
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,760
can lose Soto and still make the
playoffs, right, you can't lose 

1487
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,320
Bellinger. 
And and now I'm not saying that 

1488
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,760
that's way to win a 
championship, but the the the 

1489
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,560
level of distraught that would 
permeate the Yankee fan base, 

1490
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,720
which is already in a very 
delicate spot emotionally. 

1491
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,280
You will not hear that from me. 
I'm not wasting any energy 

1492
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,640
getting on this YouTube show. 
BT Unleashed ranting and raving 

1493
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,960
and crying and sounded like a, 
you know, like a distraught 

1494
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,120
loser. 
Oh, it's over. 

1495
01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:41,520
I mean, is Bellinger, when you 
really think, is he really that 

1496
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,200
good? 
Now there's two different 

1497
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,080
things. 
Do you fit a team well, which he

1498
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,720
does. 
Is he a star? 

1499
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,520
He's not. 
I mean, there's 15/18/20 players

1500
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,560
in baseball better than 
Bellinger. 

1501
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,320
Again, the fit is appealing, the
versatility is appealing. 

1502
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,000
But I'm actually, I got the 
Yankees back on this and I have 

1503
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,960
not had the Yankees back on much
last. 

1504
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:02,560
I've been all over Cashman. 
I've been all over on the way 

1505
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,440
they don't develop their 
position players. 

1506
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,920
I've been rightfully so. 
I believe my opinions on the 

1507
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,240
Yankees have been fully 
justified. 

1508
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:15,080
Nothing unfair, nothing over the
top, real raw on point and 

1509
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,240
they've earned it. 
Now. 

1510
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,800
I've also given them certain 
respects that I think that 

1511
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,600
they've earned that others 
failed to give them. 

1512
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,600
I, I, I can't control what 
others say. 

1513
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,720
I'm telling you what I see and 
then I'm saying what I say and 

1514
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,800
I'll be fine. 
Like, if he doesn't want to be 

1515
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,760
here, then just that's it. 
If if you're that much about, 

1516
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,280
you know, Boris just holding you
by the nose and pulling you 

1517
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,880
around like a six year old, you 
know, at some point you got to 

1518
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:47,080
realize you are in control. 
You're in control now. 

1519
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,880
I don't have an agent right now 
by design. 

1520
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,000
That was my decision couple of 
years ago. 

1521
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,520
I had one for about 15 years. 
Great relationship, really good 

1522
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,400
guy, really good at his job, was
at my wedding right love for him

1523
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,160
to this day, but the. 
Business was changing. 

1524
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,520
I made the. 
Decision for myself and now I 

1525
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:11,800
represent myself right and there
were points where, you know, 

1526
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,640
whether it was ATV show that I 
was doing or the discovery show 

1527
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,800
that I did for a year when I 
went out there and I shot man 

1528
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,240
versus bear talking about like 
non radio stuff. 

1529
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,520
But even the radio stuff where 
like if I didn't like the way it

1530
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,240
was going, I would say get this 
done. 

1531
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,200
You know, stop. 
Don't even you know what? 

1532
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,040
Stop asking for that. 
They're getting pissed off. 

1533
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,320
We push them as much as we can. 
I like it here. 

1534
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,680
I'm happy, I'm making good 
money, I'm successful. 

1535
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,480
I've been here for a while. 
Just get it done. 

1536
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,080
And and that's that's the power 
of the talent. 

1537
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,360
That's the power of the player. 
Like, I don't understand how 

1538
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,040
some of these guys lose sight of
that. 

1539
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,720
I don't, I I lose respect for 
it. 

1540
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,600
And I don't mean about chasing 
money. 

1541
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,280
Like, yeah, it's, it's it's a 
capitalistic society and they're

1542
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,840
giving away a lot of money these
days. 

1543
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,880
I mean, you know, the money that
that the Mets gave Michette, 

1544
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,440
it's a lot of money. 
I agree with it because I think 

1545
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:02,520
it fits where they are, that 
that's a good economic model for

1546
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,760
an owner that has the affluence 
that Cohen has. 

1547
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,320
So he can, he can swallow that 
money. 

1548
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:07,760
It's fine. 
All right. 

1549
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,680
Less palatable for the Yankees. 
Number one, they don't want to 

1550
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,520
do it #2 they don't have as much
money as Cohen. 

1551
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,240
So I can still make the case. 
You should, but I'm not going to

1552
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,400
make that now to just further 
derail it and, and morphing and 

1553
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,760
nine other things like just do 
you want to be somewhere? 

1554
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,600
Tell them, get it done. 
It's almost February. 

1555
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,560
And one thing that I don't 
understand, I know that you. 

1556
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:30,920
Could do multiple things at 
once. 

1557
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,680
I get that, but like if I was a 
Major League Baseball player, I 

1558
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:34,960
don't care how much money I 
have. 

1559
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,200
What what, what's Bellinger 
have? 

1560
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,960
I mean, I can look it up, but 
I'm not what do you think he's 

1561
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,920
got in the bank? 
I don't know, $110 million? 

1562
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,440
I mean, not literally. 
He doesn't take out $100 at the 

1563
01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:46,800
ATM and spits back one 1000 and 
10 million. 

1564
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,880
You've got to tie it up and, 
and, and obviously investments 

1565
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,920
and stuff like that. 
Clearly you're not going to have

1566
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,760
it in your checking account, but
you are. 

1567
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,320
You are beholden to you and and 
I feel like too many of these, 

1568
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,480
particularly Boris clients lose 
sight of that. 

1569
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:08,120
Like he lets them really where 
they let him, I should say, 

1570
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:11,720
really just dictate the tone of 
their entire winter where Hey, 

1571
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,040
you love playing with Aaron 
Judge. 

1572
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,280
You know, the Yankees wanted you
back. 

1573
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:15,720
This thing could have been 
signed a month ago. 

1574
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,080
I I could have enjoyed Christmas
without without taking calls and

1575
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,800
getting on zooms and wondering, 
well, where am I going to live 

1576
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,960
next year? 
Am I going to have to rent? 

1577
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,600
Am I going to move if I am going
to be a Yankee long term? 

1578
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,040
Am I going to go to Alpine? 
Am I going to go to Connecticut 

1579
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,560
where Boone is? 
I I don't know, but I'd like to 

1580
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,680
know and I do. 
I do think it's a little tricky,

1581
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:39,560
no matter how much money you 
have to focus on getting ready 

1582
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,360
for a season when you don't know
where you're going to be. 

1583
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:46,160
And to me, that would that is 
not something that I would want.

1584
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:51,720
I even know how I get like I get
a million times of a smaller 

1585
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,160
scale, but I know how I am like 
when I've got these little 

1586
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,600
windows of all right, I've got 
to go and coach or I've got to 

1587
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,720
go and do a St. 
John's game. 

1588
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,560
And I've obviously the radio 
show back in the day, this show 

1589
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,280
now, which I'm 100% committed to
obviously every day at 10 here 

1590
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,560
and all these other things I 
might have to do, go to campus, 

1591
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,920
you know, film the TV show with 
Rick, whatever it might be, 

1592
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,200
right? 
And I'm like, all right, I got 

1593
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,000
an hour and a half. 
I could get the work out it like

1594
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,760
it's on your mind, like juggling
things mentally. 

1595
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,680
Not that you can't do it. 
You've got to learn to do it as 

1596
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,480
an adult, as a dad, as a 
provider, as a professional, but

1597
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:28,480
it's a whole hell of a lot 
easier when everything's lined 

1598
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:31,240
out and lined up and you know 
what your schedule is. 

1599
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,720
I would not want to be Bellinger
right now as we approach the 

1600
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,960
basically January 20th, not 
knowing what the hell I'm doing.

1601
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:43,040
I don't understand that. 
So I mean, I don't know how much

1602
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,440
longer this drags on. 
I think he's going to be a 

1603
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:47,120
Yankee. 
He could be a met. 

1604
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,520
I don't think like the Giants 
who was one of those teams 

1605
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,800
jumping last second. 
I would not rule out Toronto. 

1606
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,840
And by the way, if he goes to 
Toronto, he's going to be a 

1607
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,920
great fit. 
But enough is enough. 

1608
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,240
And it really just it takes away
forget about what team to root 

1609
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,360
for it. 
It's really a disservice to the 

1610
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,600
game. 
It just drags on and on. 

1611
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,400
There's no resolution, whereas 
with and that's you got to have 

1612
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,160
that collectively bargained, 
obviously, but that's why you 

1613
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,680
get the juice with, you know, 
NBAI, where's Durant going? 

1614
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,280
You know, it's an hour. 
It's it's a minute into free 

1615
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,120
agency. 
What do we got? 

1616
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,640
All right, where, where what's 
going on? 

1617
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,400
Where's LeBron going, where's 
Bosch going? 

1618
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,320
Where's Wade, Where's Amari 
going back in the day? 

1619
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,560
What's happening? 
It's fun. 

1620
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,400
It like you, you get a chance to
own the news cycle pertaining to

1621
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,840
sports for a couple of days. 
Whereas with Major League 

1622
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,280
Baseball, it's like, you know, I
get get around to it. 

1623
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:38,000
I don't mean us because we love 
it, but you know, I they they've

1624
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,560
got to really find a way to 
better position the sport 

1625
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,840
because the marketing aspect and
and all the other things that I 

1626
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,000
think baseball lags behind 
woefully in something. 

1627
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,120
Some things they can control, 
some they can't. 

1628
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,040
To be fair to Major League 
Baseball, like I think there's 

1629
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,840
some inherent disadvantages with
baseball, but being able to cash

1630
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,000
in and capitalize on, you know, 
instead of a two or three month,

1631
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,720
you know, driven drab 
announcement here and there. 

1632
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,120
You know, you got to find a way 
to package this thing, you know,

1633
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,040
where MLB Network, where you're 
tuning in for a week straight. 

1634
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,760
All right, breaking news. 
Boom, boom, boom. 

1635
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,920
Domino's here. 
Energy, excitement. 

1636
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,320
So I don't, you know, I don't. 
I don't know why. 

1637
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,360
I mean, I know why because it's 
not collectively bargained, but 

1638
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,080
I think it's an issue. 
Boy, Robert's got. 

1639
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,240
No, I feel bad, Rob. 
You don't have to throw in money

1640
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:26,760
every time you want to ask a 
question here. 

1641
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,600
I appreciate it. 
But yeah, come on, man. 

1642
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,920
You're a fan of the Show. 
I get it, dude. 

1643
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,600
I'm not looking for that like 
like that. 

1644
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,120
I remember the Daily News on 
Sunday had MLB stats on 

1645
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,560
everybody's numbers. 
Oh, yeah. 

1646
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,600
I missed the home runs average 
ribbies. 

1647
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,680
Man, I missed those days. 
Thank you very much, Robert. 

1648
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,080
Appreciate it. 
I remember right. 

1649
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,520
I would wake up. 
God, I was inhaling newspapers 

1650
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,080
from the time I was 6. 
Remember, my dad would come 

1651
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,960
home, would have the post would 
have the news. 

1652
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:57,120
But Sundays in particular to to 
Robert's text there, I would get

1653
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,680
the Daily News. 
I don't know if the post did 

1654
01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:59,920
this, but I know the news 
definitely did. 

1655
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,160
And I would get my my little pen
maybe. 

1656
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,280
No, it was a pen and I would go 
through every single batting 

1657
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,480
average right. 
And I remember getting I mean, 

1658
01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:12,360
obviously you see like Winfield 
or Mattingly hitting 343 or 

1659
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,920
Hernandez had some good seasons 
for the mess. 

1660
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,480
And that's that's kind of what 
I'm talking about. 

1661
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,680
And like even like Nettles 
early, early home run, home run 

1662
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,280
leaders. 
I don't really remember Reggie 

1663
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:26,000
watching Reggie quite as much. 
And anyway, I would just go 

1664
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,080
through it and I remember I 
would get so excited. 

1665
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,040
You'd see like you go to the 
bottom would be like Alvaro 

1666
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,920
Espinoza hitting two O 9 or 
Butch Winegar, the an old 

1667
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,960
catcher in like 213 and I would 
just get excited. 

1668
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,520
Wayne Tollison. 
I'm just throwing out these 

1669
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:40,560
names. 
I don't know how where I'm 

1670
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,200
pulling them from, but Wayne 
Tollison like or Dale Barra, he 

1671
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,920
just signed he just circle. 
I'm like, yeah, as my Yankee. 

1672
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,640
All right, yeah, Yankee. 
I in my mind, I don't think I 

1673
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,240
knew that they listed everybody 
and if you had the minimum 

1674
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,040
amount of it bats in my mind, 
I'm like, oh, wow, All right, It

1675
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,520
might be 119th, but hey, he's on
the he's on the leaderboard. 

1676
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:05,400
We got a good player you. 
Process things still differently

1677
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:06,440
there all. 
Right. 

1678
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:12,160
So we talked about the fandom 
irrelevance versus that, that 

1679
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,320
soul. 
Crushing. 

1680
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,960
Loss talked about whether or not
you can be truly an all time 

1681
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,880
great without a ring, which I 
believe that you can. 

1682
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,760
I think you've got to be very, 
very special, especially as a 

1683
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,320
quarterback or as an NBA player.
But I think that you can. 

1684
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,600
I think many of you disagree 
with that, but I think that you 

1685
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,520
can let me give you a little 
thought here on the national 

1686
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:36,360
championship tonight. 
You know, some jet fans are 

1687
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,080
like, oh, we got to take a flyer
on Carson Beck. 

1688
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,920
What I mean, so I mean, I, I am 
looking forward to watching him 

1689
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,120
play against an amazing Indiana 
defense. 

1690
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,560
Not that I'm not that you're 
taking Carson back to or or with

1691
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,800
the Colts pick, but I don't 
know, maybe later round, 

1692
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,240
whatever. 
If he impresses, I think 

1693
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,400
Indiana's going to stop him to 
the point where I I was looking 

1694
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,080
at some of these other numbers, 
right. 

1695
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,320
So right now the line well, the 
line opened up at 7 1/2, right. 

1696
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,040
You can tell a lot how it's bet 
and not always, but where the 

1697
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,760
sharp money is going. 
Obviously the games today, so 

1698
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,760
that late money is reflected in 
short money. 

1699
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,320
Maybe get a little late surge 
late, late, late sharp, sharp, 

1700
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,520
sharp money. 
But this is pretty much the line

1701
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,360
opened up at 7 1/2 got bet up 
immediately to 8 1/2 favoring 

1702
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,800
Indiana right. 
So all the money's pointed on 

1703
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,280
the Hoosiers as it should. 
By the way, they are just so 

1704
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,520
much better than Miami. 
Now, the game obviously is not a

1705
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,680
true neutral site because it's 
down in at the Hard Rock Stadium

1706
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,720
in Miami. 
So Miami's going to have good 

1707
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,240
representation. 
Those Hoosiers are going to 

1708
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:32,600
travel, though. 
They'll get their hands on a lot

1709
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,800
of tickets. 
I don't think it'll be 8020, 

1710
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:41,160
maybe 60-40, maybe 6535, but 
that Hoosier contingent will be 

1711
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,840
off the charts phenomenal 
because they've been that way 

1712
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,960
all along and you're not going 
to stop now with the 

1713
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,520
championship. 
It's amazing that they're going 

1714
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,560
to win the championship. 
I don't think there's any doubt 

1715
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,480
that they win. 
I don't think there's any doubt 

1716
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:54,400
that they cover the Hoosier. 
You listen, you can talk about 

1717
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,880
Fernando Mendoza all you want 
and he's been, he's got 41 

1718
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,560
touchdown 6 picks, I mean, 41 
and six. 

1719
01:23:59,960 --> 01:24:02,960
And if you've seen him, I know 
I'm sure some of you are just 

1720
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,720
starting to see him. 
And while maybe you learned 

1721
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,040
about Mendoza a little bit 
earlier than the rest of the 

1722
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:13,080
Hoosiers team understand this, 
their defense is great and 

1723
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,200
they're running game is great. 
Like this is not just a guy 

1724
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,960
who's on the center. 
I know some of you know this, 

1725
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,480
but if you don't, there's not 
some, you know, superstar 

1726
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:26,200
quarterback, which he is, but I 
mean, with nothing around them 

1727
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:28,360
and he's going to have to win a 
shootout. 

1728
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,160
I don't even think Miami scores 
a ton of points tonight. 

1729
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,720
I think the I think the Hoosiers
defense is that good to the 

1730
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,800
point where I was looking at 
some of these exotic numbers 

1731
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:41,000
like how about this? 
So -23 1/2. 

1732
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,240
If you really think that Indiana
can score 50 in the 

1733
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:50,520
neighborhood, like, can they win
43 to 20 with that? 

1734
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:51,800
No, that that wouldn't even do 
it. 

1735
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,240
Couldn't they win 44 to 20? 
Yeah. 

1736
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,840
And there's a. 
Number if you want to. 

1737
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,120
Jack that now this is the 
alternate lines which when it 

1738
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,120
works all when you hit one of 
these, it is my I used to take 

1739
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,560
this a lot against The Jets when
The Jets were. 

1740
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,360
I was going to say when The Jets
were asked. 

1741
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:09,760
It's more like when The Jets 
were. 

1742
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:10,800
Good, you would say. 
They're always. 

1743
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,720
Asked, but there were times like
at the end of Rex where you just

1744
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,160
knew it was over and then 
obviously prolonged stretch of 

1745
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,800
being over where I'm like, all 
right, they're playing the 

1746
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,840
Patriots, they're up in 
Foxborough, they're 8 1/2 point 

1747
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,640
dogs. 
Not I'm going to Jack it up to, 

1748
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,840
I don't know, spread -16 get 
some plus 400 value going, throw

1749
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,360
down AC note, walk away, bang. 
You knew they were getting 

1750
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,040
crushed like the alternate line.
And you got to be selective with

1751
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,960
it. 
You got to be a little lucky, 

1752
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,640
but you got to know your stuff. 
And I really think Indiana's 

1753
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,000
going to smoke them tonight. 
I think they're going to crush 

1754
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,640
him. 
So how's this sound -23 1/2, you

1755
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,720
lay almost 24 + 480 and you 
throw that 100, you win almost 5

1756
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,440
if they win by 23, by if they 
win by 23 1/2 points or more. 

1757
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,280
This one I don't know if I love 
as much. 

1758
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,280
I did see it was pretty. 
I saw it I think on Twitter this

1759
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,800
morning. 
There's a 51 point over 

1760
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:05,560
pertaining to the team total for
Indiana at 20 to 1. 

1761
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,480
I mean, is it inconceivable they
scored fifty plus points? 

1762
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:11,880
It's not it's it's really really
not. 

1763
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:16,680
So I am going to sit back and 
and watch Mendoza, who's 

1764
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,880
Hoosiers team this year has won 
by an average a margin of 31 1/2

1765
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,520
points. 
Like they're not just winning. 

1766
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,440
They were obliterating 
everybody. 

1767
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,480
And it's not just Mendoza. 
I think their defense is right. 

1768
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,480
Ohio State's defense that like 
they're right there top 20, top 

1769
01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:35,360
15 in terms of, you know, I 
don't know, some even even 

1770
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,160
deeper level analytics that I 
don't even care to reference 

1771
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,120
right now. 
And I love my numbers. 

1772
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,200
Just trust me. 
I mean, I'm not I'm not telling 

1773
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,200
you to throw money on the game, 
but if you're going to and 

1774
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,640
you're like, what do you think? 
I think Indiana's going to smoke

1775
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:48,800
them. 
I think they'll be the national 

1776
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,760
champions again, if you want to 
sprinkle a little something just

1777
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,160
to get those juices going, maybe
some exotic number the the team 

1778
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,800
total or, or go over 23 1/2. 
I don't know if I'd advise that,

1779
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,120
but if you're up and you had a 
good weekend with the NFL and 

1780
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,200
you want to let it ride and try 
to make some more, go for it. 

1781
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,400
I feel really good about the 8 
1/2. 

1782
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,360
Matter of fact, I think it I 
think it's going to go up. 

1783
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:09,200
I don't think it's going to go 
off at 8 1/2. 

1784
01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:12,280
I think it would go up to 9 more
than it would go down to 8. 

1785
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:13,720
I, I don't really see that 
happening. 

1786
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,000
So hopefully we get a good game 
tonight. 

1787
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,160
I'm not even sure that we will. 
I really don't. 

1788
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,920
And then the. 
College football season's over. 

1789
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,600
And now, you know, obviously 
we're getting toward the the 

1790
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:30,000
conference championship Sunday 
with some good storylines, which

1791
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,920
I'll obviously obviously probe 
into during the week to lead up 

1792
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,320
to. 
But we got a lot to react to 

1793
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,960
today. 
Hopefully you guys enjoyed it, 

1794
01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:40,280
obviously on Twitter, on 
Instagram, got a like got to 

1795
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,640
subscribe this guy, get the 
hypes going, get that all out 

1796
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,000
there. 
Spread the word to you buddies, 

1797
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,440
not just New York stuff, by the 
way, a lot of New York content. 

1798
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:49,320
But as you can tell, I'm 
expanding on a little bit more 

1799
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,760
and more and more extending 
those parameters of what we 

1800
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,800
talked about. 
I want to see what the Knicks 

1801
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,480
have today. 
Knicks are playing at 5 or 6, by

1802
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,240
the way. 
I was at, I don't know if it was

1803
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,400
the first one. 
I don't know that it was. 

1804
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,480
I was actually at the Trent 
Tucker game I was at. 

1805
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,080
I've been to a couple of MLK 
days, Martin Luther King Day 

1806
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,240
games because we always have off
obviously. 

1807
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:17,000
And I remember a joke the I had 
when I was at the Tucker game, I

1808
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,400
actually had a better seat than 
Spike. 

1809
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,520
I don't know how my dad got the 
tickets right, but Spike had not

1810
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,760
yet moved up the courtside. 
I was actually at the game with 

1811
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,480
when Trent Tucker flung it in 
with 110th of a second left 

1812
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:29,520
there. 
I can still see Mark Jackson 

1813
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,440
Ewing's arms up there. 
Oh, my good God, Absolutely 

1814
01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:34,400
awesome. 
So I, I love basketball today. 

1815
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,400
It's fun. 
You know, you get some of this. 

1816
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,080
It's really good for the league.
I think the league's done a good

1817
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,680
job of branding Martin Luther 
King Day. 

1818
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,000
They've done this what they've 
done it with Christmas, although

1819
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,640
now the NFL is trying to cut 
into that. 

1820
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,600
They've done it with MLK Day, 
which is great. 

1821
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,600
It's it's a nice showcase for 
the sport. 

1822
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,440
But man, these Knicks, I mean, I
know they're still banged up. 

1823
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:55,440
You need Jalen Brunson back, but
I don't know what the hell 

1824
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,880
Mitchell Mitchell Robinson's 
post and stuff on Instagram last

1825
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,480
night, basically saying goodbye.
I'm I'm doing searches. 

1826
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:02,720
Did he get dealt? 
Like what the hell? 

1827
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,520
The Knicks just look broken. 
So they got to start and start 

1828
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,760
to get they they need to start 
getting it together. 

1829
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,840
And even if they play great 
today, whatever, I just I'm out 

1830
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,240
on the Knicks. 
I just don't think that they 

1831
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:13,520
have it. 
They don't have enough dogs. 

1832
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,280
They got one, they got one 
physical dog in terms of heart 

1833
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,160
every, you know, Brunson's a 
scoring dog and all that stuff. 

1834
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,840
But they got too many softies on
the team and that situation the 

1835
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,960
other night I talked about this.
I'm not doing it again, but very

1836
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,600
briefly. 
That situation with Draymond 

1837
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,360
Green and Karl Anthony Towns 
when nobody came through his 

1838
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,000
defense and Mike Brown was 
hugging Draymond. 

1839
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,880
I know it was your boy. 
I respect that. 

1840
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,920
Do it in the tunnel. 
Bad look for the matching that 

1841
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:40,320
happened with Pat Riley or Van 
Gundy or even Tom Thibodeau. 

1842
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,000
Imagine if Yokum Noah was still 
playing or Derrick Rose was 

1843
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,360
still playing on a different 
team. 

1844
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:50,360
Could you imagine Tom Thibodeau 
after one of his store players 

1845
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,760
got into a scrap, almost a 
scrap, at least, you know, 

1846
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,640
talking smack to each other and 
right after the game, visible 

1847
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,480
for everybody to see, You're 
hugging, you're smiling, you 

1848
01:29:58,480 --> 01:29:59,560
laugh. 
It's a bad look. 

1849
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,960
And it shows me that, like the 
Knicks don't, they just don't 

1850
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,640
have it. 
And when you lose 8 of 10 games,

1851
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,880
you've got some real issues 
defensively and other basketball

1852
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:14,560
issues, not to mention the lack 
of toughness at inside the MLBI.

1853
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,200
Think, I think this commentary 
is this is really is 

1854
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,000
disrespectful to Miami's 
defense. 

1855
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,920
There's zero percent chance 
Indiana scores 50. 

1856
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,160
They've got two first round 
picks on defense. 

1857
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:29,280
Understood, understood. 
Now you can say that there's 

1858
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,200
very little chance that they 
score 50. 

1859
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:34,160
You can't say that there's no 
chance because that implies that

1860
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,800
it's absolutely impossible. 
Now tomorrow, I appreciate that.

1861
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,360
Thank you very much. 
Thank you for that. 

1862
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,320
But when we fire this up 
tomorrow with 10:00 in the 

1863
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,400
morning and my buddy at inside 
the MLB wants to hit me back and

1864
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,440
Indiana wins 20 to 17, which I'd
be stunned that or they win or 

1865
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:55,200
even if they lose a low scoring 
battle, which I would be stunned

1866
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,640
that well then I'll I'll man up.
But I'll say yeah, my bad. 

1867
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,080
I was wrong. 
I was wrong. 

1868
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,480
I think my read on Miami is good
and I think my read on my on 

1869
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,320
Indiana is spot on. 
I mean, you got the best 

1870
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,280
quarterback, you got the better 
defense, you got the better 

1871
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:08,760
running attack, you got the 
better coach. 

1872
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,680
I mean, who you betting with? 
Who you going with tonight? 

1873
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,640
I'll take Indiana. 
I do. 

1874
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,160
Admit that that's you know. 
That's why I said, you know, 

1875
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:20,960
plus 480 massive spread or 20 to
1 if they score over 50 points. 

1876
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,560
I'm not saying that I think they
can necessarily score over 50, 

1877
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,520
but to say that that's 
disrespectful. 

1878
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:26,880
I don't think that that's 
disrespectful. 

1879
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,960
I really know. 
I appreciate that. 

1880
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:30,040
All right. 
Hey, Jared. 

1881
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:31,480
What? 
Is Jared still awake? 

1882
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,880
Is Jared still here? 
They one of the books still 

1883
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,600
here? 
What's going on, buddy? 

1884
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,600
Nothing much I mean. 
I thought it. 

1885
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,360
Was good. 
I mean, what's crazy? 

1886
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,320
Is just like how heated this 
chat got this episode. 

1887
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,200
I was like you. 
I think you you brought some 

1888
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,120
good debate out of people. 
Welcome to unleash buddy. 

1889
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:53,640
This is what I don't. 
Know where you've been. 

1890
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,440
This is what we've been doing 
this every day. 

1891
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,880
And this is not my fault. 
You late to the party, Jared, 

1892
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,400
Not my problem. 
This is what we do. 

1893
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,840
This is what we do. 
We want the bait. 

1894
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,960
We want conversation, we want 
passion. 

1895
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,120
We want it all. 
We want a little topic. 

1896
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,280
Diversity. 
Good First show, man. 

1897
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,160
No, no, no egregious mistakes. 
I guess we'll bring you back. 

1898
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,160
Hey, Colt, should we bring him 
back tomorrow? 

1899
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,600
Bring him back, He said. 
He said. 

1900
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:18,680
He said we should bring you 
back. 

1901
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:23,720
Let's go Hey, do you like 
Indiana tonight or Miami? 

1902
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,200
Who do you like in the game? 
Let's see. 

1903
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,280
Well, another another show I've.
Been doing work on they were big

1904
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,120
on they were big on Indiana for 
tonight. 

1905
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,280
I mean they've been talking 
about Mendoza whole season and 

1906
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,520
they're like Georgia guys. 
So they've, you know, they've 

1907
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:41,360
got something a little like 
vitriol towards Carson Beck and 

1908
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,160
sort of just like kind of how 
his his story's going. 

1909
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,040
So I'm taking Indiana tonight. 
OK. 

1910
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:49,760
Are you going to actually bet 
them or you just got you just? 

1911
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,360
Think they're going to win? 
You gonna bet him? 

1912
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,760
Let let's have a fun. 
Night maybe. 

1913
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:54,960
There you go. 
Let's go. 

1914
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,520
Let's do it. 
Let's do something. 

1915
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,320
Out of man. 
You got that new revenue. 

1916
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,560
Stream coming in? 
Yep, come on now. 

1917
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,840
Oh. 
Man oh by the. 

1918
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:04,440
Way. 
So Jared, good job today, man. 

1919
01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:05,960
Great to have you. 
If you guys are just tuning in, 

1920
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,480
that's my new producer. 
Colt will always be the 

1921
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:11,400
executive producer, but Jared is
now in charge of this. 

1922
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,600
And day one you did awesome. 
More graphics coming, more stuff

1923
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,400
coming, more bells and whistles 
coming. 

1924
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,400
Eventually phone calls coming. 
Great job on the chat. 

1925
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,080
The chat was on fire today. 
He's going to be handling the 

1926
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,000
shorts and all the other post 
show content and production. 

1927
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,360
So it's going to look tight. 
It's going to get out there and 

1928
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,840
we're just going to grow this 
more and more and more. 

1929
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,560
So great job, buddy. 
I appreciate it, Jared. 

1930
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,080
Good job, appreciate it. 
You got it, dude. 

1931
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,080
You got. 
Hey, before I bounce, I want to 

1932
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,640
give a shout out. 
Awesome, awesome night, 

1933
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,960
Borrelli. 
So I was in Long Beach, Long 

1934
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,000
Beach. 
It was up to no good even 

1935
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,840
Hollywood trying to get no that 
not that Long Beach. 

1936
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,680
Long Beach near basically out 
toward Long Island. 

1937
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,160
My buddy Mike Quinn, massive St.
John's fan, massive St. 

1938
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:57,120
John's bar. 
So I was hanging out Borelli's 

1939
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,680
when I've been there before. 
I had a a watch party appearance

1940
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,360
and it was great bar was 
absolutely packed. 

1941
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,840
The the enthusiasm was through 
the charts. 

1942
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,760
Obviously both football and the 
Johnnies games were going on and

1943
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,320
met a big Saint John's win by 
the way. 

1944
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:14,680
That was it. 
That was a big win. 

1945
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,720
That was really the playing 
Seton Hall tomorrow who lost to 

1946
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,600
Butler at home. 
I was very surprised by that. 

1947
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,880
But St. 
John's is on a nice run and I'll

1948
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,800
give you a minute or so here. 
I know you got a lot of you guys

1949
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,480
that follow me love St. 
John's obviously. 

1950
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,240
And you know St. 
John's was at a point after that

1951
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,960
Providence loss 1/2 I guess that
was 2 Saturdays ago. 

1952
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:35,840
Couple of weeks ago I did the 
game with Macon. 

1953
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,240
They lost and they they jumped. 
Providence is not even good and 

1954
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:40,000
they jumped out. 
St. 

1955
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:44,280
John's was up 13 zip and then 
they lost the game and there was

1956
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,920
and there was it was building up
a little bit like because St. 

1957
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,760
John's had some high profile 
games, Kentucky, Iowa State, 

1958
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,560
Auburn. 
Auburn was a bad loss. 

1959
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,320
And they scheduled differently 
this year by design because they

1960
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,720
got a lot of talent and they 
want to get the metrics set up 

1961
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,880
so that if they lose a couple of
games is still in a good spot 

1962
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,240
and challenge themselves. 
They didn't win any of those 

1963
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:03,960
games, right? 
They beat Baylor, but Baylor's 

1964
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,840
not like the other teams. 
So there was a little, I felt 

1965
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,160
like some of the air was out of 
the St. 

1966
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,520
John's balloon early. 
And I understood it like they 

1967
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,960
didn't look to me to be the same
team or the same ceiling as the 

1968
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,800
year before when they won 31 
times, right? 

1969
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,160
And won the regular season Big 
East championship led by Zubi 

1970
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,080
and RJ Lewis. 
And funny thing happened after 

1971
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:28,560
that Providence game, Rick 
Pitino figured things out pretty

1972
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,880
quick because since that game, 
and that was that was really, 

1973
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,560
that was an inexcusable loss, 
right? 

1974
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,240
But the way they bounce back, 
they had back-to-back, 

1975
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:44,400
back-to-back quad one Rd. wins. 
Nice. 

1976
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,120
That'll get the numbers more 
favorably right. 

1977
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,120
And then they beat Marquette by 
like 25 points. 

1978
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,320
They smacked him at home. 
Then that's why Villanova was 

1979
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,600
such a big game because 
Villanova's numbers were pretty 

1980
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,000
good as well. 
Their back courts really good. 

1981
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,640
It was it was in Philly where 
the Sixers play, not on campus. 

1982
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,240
20,000 people. 
One of the bigger NBA venues out

1983
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,800
there. 
Obviously Willard is a good 

1984
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,120
coach, very good. 
We saw him at Seton Hall, saw 

1985
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,600
him at Maryland. 
Willard was with Pitino for a 

1986
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,000
long time. 
So he had that and St. 

1987
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,000
John's just, I mean, they looked
really, really good. 

1988
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,360
So that's another quad one Rd. 
win. 

1989
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,640
And as long as you don't stumble
against Seton Hall is going to 

1990
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,920
be tough. 
It's going to be a street fight.

1991
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,480
St. 
John's suddenly is they're like,

1992
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:27,520
I don't know what are they 13 or
15 in the Ken Palm? 

1993
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,280
And they're very, very, very 
high in the net rating, like 21 

1994
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,000
or 22. 
So the numbers have have stable.

1995
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,160
I think the perception of St. 
John's has stabilized and it's 

1996
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:41,480
really happened as Rick went to 
a bigger, bigger, bigger lineup 

1997
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,080
with Dylan Mitchell now getting 
more run, which I love because 

1998
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,840
he's a great defender. 
He makes the right decisions and

1999
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,480
they're still evolving a bit. 
But I thought Ian Jackson was 

2000
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:53,440
really good, really good. 
Hopkins was really good. 

2001
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:55,240
Who's been a little up and down 
for me. 

2002
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,480
Even Sadden had some big shots. 
He struggled here. 

2003
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,920
Zoobies, Zoobies. 
It's a good win for Saint John. 

2004
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:02,760
So looking forward to to the 
garden tomorrow night against 

2005
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,200
Seton Hall. 
And before you know it, guys 

2006
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,920
like as we look at this with the
national championship tonight 

2007
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,000
again, I'll take the Hoosiers 
and I'll lay the 8 1/2 with 0 

2008
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,960
hesitation. 
Football is over after. 

2009
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,400
Tonight, we're down to 14. 
In terms of college, we're down 

2010
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,720
to four teams in the NC in the 
in the NFL. 

2011
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,680
And then before you know, it's 
February and now you know the 

2012
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,720
Big East and the and before you 
know it's March Madness, spring 

2013
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,520
training and we'll see exactly 
what the Yanks of the Mets were 

2014
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,720
taken down to Tampa and Port 
Saint Lucie. 

2015
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,720
So then it's NFL draft and then 
then this channel, I think just 

2016
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,120
hits a level that I fully 
expected to hit. 

2017
01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:38,560
It's just there's some really 
good things coming. 

2018
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,080
And I appreciate you guys 
hopping in on holiday. 

2019
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,000
Appreciate you guys watching. 
I appreciate you guys doing the 

2020
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,480
Super chats and all the things 
you're doing. 

2021
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,000
By the way, last week, I'll tell
you this analytically this, this

2022
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,560
I look at this stuff because we 
had a little issue with the 

2023
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,200
YouTube streams, as many of you 
know, so we had to do on X for 

2024
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,200
about, I don't know, 7 or 8 
shows, which, which kind of, you

2025
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,840
know, stunted a little bit of 
the growth of this channel. 

2026
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,240
Now we're back to where, where 
we where we were. 

2027
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,720
But last week, like I'm, I'm 
looking because they have a 

2028
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,200
whole analytical, you know, I 
love my numbers, looking at the 

2029
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,680
analytics, the data every day. 
Like if you look at the the week

2030
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,320
going back when we first got 
back on YouTube stream, Monday 

2031
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,800
was here, Tuesday was here, 
Wednesday was here, terms of 

2032
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,640
viewership, Thursday was here, 
Friday was here. 

2033
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,040
Literally went up, up, up, up up
five straight shows. 

2034
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:29,200
So that's the goal that speaks 
to, to my commitment coming to, 

2035
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,280
to bring you guys great content,
but I can't do it without you 

2036
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,600
guys. 
So I, I, I really appreciate you

2037
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,600
guys doing what you doing. 
I, I, I know you know that by 

2038
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,760
now, but I don't want to assume 
that everybody's been here from 

2039
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,360
day one, you know? 
Hey, let's just like that. 

2040
01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:44,120
End it at the fan, alright? 
That's great. 

2041
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,920
What's next? 
I'm not waiting around, I'm not 

2042
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,760
messing around, I'm not wasting 
time, I'm not bullshitting. 

2043
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,080
Let's go and let's get Rockin. 
And here we are. 

2044
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,960
So have an awesome rest of your 
Monday. 

2045
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,560
I'll be back tomorrow with 10, 
unless something breaks like a 

2046
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,560
Bellinger signing or whatever I 
might, might be Enjoy the 

2047
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,760
national championship again. 
Give me the Hoosiers. 

2048
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,960
I'll lay the 8 1/2. 
I'll give you a little reaction 

2049
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,760
tomorrow on the Knicks and 
again, maybe a little resolution

2050
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,200
with the baseball. 
So have an outstanding Monday, 

2051
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,400
have an outstanding early start 
to the week. 

2052
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,640
Enjoy the holiday with the kids 
who are all from school today. 

2053
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:21,360
And I will see you tomorrow at 
10 right here on UNLEASHED Pace.

