Going on everybody. BT Unleashed, Yeah, let's get
it. We got a monster show today.
I'm absolutely pumped up. Jay Rod is pumped up.
We got a little WBC. We've got a lot of March
Madness. Joe Beningo said.
Some really interesting things about WFAN.
I'm going to get into that as well.
J Rod, what's going on there, buddy?
How was my guy? Jake?
Look at him, look at James. What's up?
How we doing? French fan.
Great weekend of sports, great games.
Yeah. Yeah, always good.
We've got a little, we've got a little news to share and let's,
this is good. This is a little benchmark here.
Let look at this. We got a million views there so
that I wanted to get that out of the out of the gate here.
I'll keep it up a little longer now, but let's celebrate the
moment a little bit. I mean, Chase, you know, we
started with, well, you know, when you start with no
subscribers and no watched hours and you know, nothing.
And basically you got to figure out how to do this thing and
have my son produce the first week of the show because he was
home for Christmas break. And I had no producer And the
first show was in my basement with Wi-Fi and the mic with the,
with bad Wi-Fi and no microphone.
And it was wow, to, to this. And we're not, we're obviously
still building this thing out. But really, guys, I don't want
to belabor this, but this is, I mean, it's, it's not because of
me, it's because of you. All right?
You guys have followed me. It gets stronger, it gets
bigger, it grows, it becomes more and more, I think immersed
within all of the other platforms out there.
We made national news twice last week, the interview with K where
Michael talked about the politics and and how we thought
it really hurt his show. And then we made national news
with with Noddy pucks. Don the Greco came out and said
that he should have been more aggressive try to get his name
on the show. So we're off and running.
That means the world to me. It's just it's just a little
thing that I can get that off there.
As I look at the, you know, I'm I'm, I'm definitely more of a a
windshield guy than a rearview mirror guy, but I wanted to
acknowledge that. Thank you very much, man.
And again, I think down the road I'll look back and I'll say,
wow, 1 million views. You made a big deal out of that
big damn deal. But right now for me and right
now for the channel and right now for us, you better believe
it's a big deal. So awesome.
All right, it's going to be a very unique week here.
So first of all, I know that St. John's got hoes.
Then we're going to do a lot of March Madness coming up in a
bit. I want to start with the WBC.
We'll get to the Beningo stuff. J Rod, I got to figure this out
because we are I I got the word from St.
John's over the weekend that if they did fly out West, if they
were going to get that, you know, that that W seat out
there, or at least playing the West, that they were going to
leave on Tuesday. Even if they were.
So no matter when they were playing, I'm like, OK, that's,
that's that's that's fine. It's San Diego.
I'm going to have a good time. But we got to figure stuff out
here because I, you know, I, I actually now I got to do the
show on the road. You might you might just have to
put the laptop up when the game's.
Going down and just have like a little shot of you reacting to
the game. That would be money.
That would be phenomenal. We get the most hits ever on
that. But I'm worried about some
copyright infringement. I know you're kidding, but I
mean, I can't pack this microphone because it's drilled
to my Home Office desk. I, I got to figure this out and
I will, we'll do a lot of content from the road, maybe
shorter variety. Obviously catch up with Minko,
I'm going to be out there with and you know, we'll do, we'll do
a lot of fun stuff, but I, I do have to figure some stuff out.
That's something J&J Rod and I will have to do.
All right, let's get to the WBC right now.
I'd be lied if I said I always loved it like it was there and I
parachute in. I would parachute out a little
bit. The more that it's meant to the
United States, the more I've enjoyed this.
It's it's always meant the world to the Dominican Republic in
Puerto Rico and Japan. You know, it's it's it's a, it's
turned into a really good event. And I got to tell you, sitting
down last night to watch that game.
No, no hyperbole, no bullshit. I was at, I was that was the
most excited that I ever was to watch a non Yankee game.
I swear to God, Like I was so jacked to watch to start the
game. You know, you got skeins on the
bump. You've got the energy of the
Dominican Republic, who very early in the game broke a WBC
record with with their 15th home run.
And the crazy thing, I'm first of all, hats off to the Team
USA. Awesome.
And Derosa, who you know, was under fire last week, managed a
pretty good game. And you know, I very rarely take
you through the mechanics of the game like, well, in the first
inning this happened. I'm, I'm not, I, I really don't
even want to do that, but I almost have to for a second
because last night there was basically something awesome,
like if you love baseball, there was something awesome in every
single inning. Just about first of all, again,
you got skeins on the bump, you got Severino.
Well, you know, Severino's not skeins, but I mean, he was, he
was taking 99 right away. And, and they had the stats up
there with this below from a year ago.
He was a good 2-3 MPH faster than last year on his average.
So you know that he was hopped up.
You know, that Dominicans, they, they, they just did the pure joy
and the celebrations and the energy and the bounce and the
swag. Little more of an understated
presentation by Team USA. And then Caminiero hits that
home run and not a cheapie there, but oh, skins got touched
up. Not great.
And and this is what's interesting, right?
So you have theater right there. Then you go to the top of the
third and Team USA is down 1 zip.
You got a couple of guys on second and third.
You have Aaron Judge up and Schwarber, you know, ground ball
to the right side, SAC fly, get a run, squeeze.
You don't think they're gonna get many more off the skins?
And and they didn't, but Judge didn't come through and
Schwarber didn't come through. They both whipped.
So but high drama, right? Then you get to the bottom of
the third and Tatis has gunned down to third base by by Aaron
Judge. Boom, nice baseball play.
Then you get to Gunnar Henderson going deep.
You get to I wrote, how good is Roman Anthony going to be?
My God almighty, Roman Anthony goes yard.
And the crazy thing about that. And again, Deroza took a lot of
heat. He sat down Bregman, which I and
not that Bregman's been playing great in the WBC, but you know,
great fielder veteran, you know, champion in clutch guy.
You trust him up there late. He sat him down.
He put gunner at 3rd as you know, and he did that because
his numbers against Severino were money.
I think he was 7 for 11 with a couple of bombs.
So, you know, he played the hunch and he also, you know,
also played the numbers there too.
But he did something that I'm I'm not sure that every manager
would have done bank. It's automatically rewarded
phenomenal. Now you get to the bottom of the
fourth. Team USA is up to 1 Austin Wells
bases, Juice flies out to left field drama.
Then he gets to the top of the fifth.
I thought he got it. We all thought he got it.
Judge robbed by Julio Rodriguez and what a call, what a call.
But when when you hear, you know, spider man robbing
Superman, just phenomenal stuff. And that ball was going to go
over Now, I mean, listen, there's been better plays,
robbing home runs, Griffey, some Craig, Devon White, some sick
stuff, right? But that would have got over the
fence and given the tie, given judge, given, you know, the
backdrop, the energy in the stadium, phenomenal play, right?
Then you go to bottom five, first and 2nd Skeins is pulled.
You're bringing Tyler Rogers who's throwing totally different
stuff, right? Keep that up there.
I'll get to Jay. Totally different stuff then
what skeens is pumping up who's got like 6 or 7 pitches throwing
99 Tyler Rogers comes in throws an 81 mile per hour sinker.
Soto taps into a double play after Skeens is pulled drama.
Then you go to the bottom of the 7th, 2nd and 3rd 2:00 to 1:00
USA Bednar's and you know Bednar walking that tightrope Tatis
with then you have Morte with and Bednar was pumped up and
then obviously to wrap it up you got bottom 9 tying right on
third base 2 to one USA boom punch out.
So now you've, you got Venezuela and Italy on that side and then
you got Team USA trying to bring this home.
And listen, one thing that I don't do, like if you're not
into something, I'm not gonna try to shove it down your
throat. Like if you're not into the Big
East tournament, which if you're not a, and you're from the
Northeast, I don't know how you're not into the Big East
tournament. But if you're not into the Big
East tournament, hey, I think you're missing out if you're not
into say the Masters or the US Open.
I think you're missing out if you're not into elements of
March Madness. All the expansion, all the 1st
for whatever. It's not the same as it used to
be when I was young because of the transfer portal in the NI.
Fine that that's your opinion. I respect it.
So I'm not going to shove the WBC down your throat.
I'm just telling you how I've evolved.
It's become more and more viable.
It's become more and more drama filled.
The players take it seriously. And what else could you ask for?
I mean, really from a baseball point and I I've checked in on
the Yankees and I've checked in on the Mets, right, Just to see
what's going on at Tampa in Port Saint Louis, some of the store
and and Saint Lucie, some of the stories like Ben's trying to win
the, you know, the the right field spot and some other
things, right? But you talk about a high level,
high stakes, you know, drama that is all rooted in pride and
energy. You've had players.
Now, I know that this bothers people and this isn't the first
year it's been said you've had players.
I don't know if an American has said this.
And if they have, I'm, I'm not trying to gloss over and I just
don't think I've ever heard it. But I've heard some of the
international players say that they view the WBC as more
championship, more meaningful than winning the World Series.
Now you don't really want to hear that, but I'm not going to
push back because I can't relate to their pride in their country.
I've got a lot of pride in our country, but it's it's it's,
it's different with some of the Latin countries and the Latin
countries really just spice this up, man.
So if you don't like it, great. There was a point, admittedly,
where I'm like, it's a little contrived, like a lot of things
that just start even the even the NBA Cup, whatever, that
that's never going to have this kind of energy because it's just
it's just different. But I thoroughly enjoyed it so
far. And let's win the freaking
thing. Let's go, let's go red, white
and blue. I'd love to play Italy.
Do I think Italy's going to win? I mean, at this point, I'm not
going to say no. They're on this magic ride.
But it was a lot of fun. And just to reiterate, and I,
and I mean this, outside of Yankee games and even met
playoff games, like when I'm watching for work, whatever, I
have never sat down with the anticipation that I had for last
night's baseball game. This is going to sound crazy.
It was on par with with me getting like wanting to know
where I'm travelling with St. John's.
And by the way, St. John's got host.
They got host. We'll get to that a little bit.
What a weekend, man. What an absolutely awesome
weekend. That was not a strike.
It was a pick off attempt at China.
No, I'm not. I don't know what's going on
with that. I mean, do we have to that by
saying do we have to keep that up that long, get it off?
I don't even know. J Rod, did you at least check in
a little bit, bud? Yes, Sir.
Yeah, I caught AI, caught a couple innings.
I caught when like I think it was Skeens he he struck out
Tatis or no. Tatis got the single the first
base. They were like man on 1st and
2nd and then they got the outs. So yeah.
What you not told about the you not talk about the bottom of the
7th when there was 2 on USA? No, it was bottom of the fourth
into top of the fifth, I think. Yes, that's when Schemes was
pulled. That's when Rogers came in and
got sold to tap out. Yeah, No, it's, listen,
everything about it's been phenomenal.
I it just translates to TV. There's energy.
Listen, I I had a chance. I told you, I think I mentioned
this once I went to Santo Domingo.
All right, now, I'll never forget this.
I was in college. It was like a group of us, not
with my university, but a group of players.
And we went to the Dominican Republic for about, I think we
were there a good week or so, right?
And it, it was by far the most amazing baseball experience I've
ever had. And I was so amazing for a lot
of reasons. Number of the competition was
phenomenal. We did well, but nobody cares
about that. The stadiums were just so
unique. I remember actually getting off
the team bus True story. And this young Dominican boy,
God, J Rod, he had to be 8, didn't have sneakers.
It was like milk cartoons and shoes.
True story. Yeah.
And he was actually offering and he didn't.
He didn't. I didn't understand what he was
saying, but he wound up pointing and, like, almost like feigning,
like how you would Polish something.
He was basically asking us if he could Polish our cleats to make
money. I mean, I only had a few bucks
on me, but I'm like, absolutely. And it was just awesome.
Like, just the the stands are so unique, man.
Like the cowbells and the Dominican flags.
It's like they, I love what they do.
I, I, I love it, man. They turn it into almost like a
football, soccer, basketball environment.
And all you had to do, and I'm talking about the first inning.
All you had to do is when, when they when they panned the crowd
and you saw those Dominican fans with their, with their Dr.
jerseys and their hats like first inning reacting to a
strikeout or or a base hit, whatever it was, the home run,
the look in their eyes, ma'am, the intensity, it matters.
And again, I'm not going to try to sell anybody on it.
It is really turned into for me, an awesome event that I now
really enjoy. I love it.
There we go. Yeah, I mean, it's cool, you
know, it gives a bit of an Olympic feel to the game of
baseball, say. Yeah, I think the difference
fair. I think it's better than the
Olympics. I really do.
I do not that I tuned in really much for the Olympics this year
at all. I don't care about the Olympics.
I, I just, I don't, I don't like some of the events I do.
I watch some of the golf. I started to watch that when
they implemented that a couple of years ago.
Obviously, although he's watched the basketball, you know, the
gymnastics is amazing because those, those young ladies are
phenomenal. Like what they do, some of the
stuff they do is crazy, you know, like you start to get some
of the summer activities, like the pole vault, like just, it's
so hard. Like how could you not watch
with intrigue? But I don't know, I, I think I
know all these players. It's really, it's really like,
you know, see one of the thing, think about this, Jay.
To me, it's really like an All Star game on steroids, right,
Because if you look at all the All Star games, you know,
football, I, I don't even know what it is anymore.
Like it went from, you know, playing real football, then
hitting. I remember, you know, Tiki
telling me that he was telling who who was it was it right?
It was somebody where he was getting tackled in the Pro Bowl
and he was like, hey, just lay me down gently as he was getting
tackled, right. And and but even a couple of
years before Tiki and way before that, like they would play with
Frosty, they would play with purpose, right?
And then it like was like flag a beach football and and the kid
Edwards from the Pats, remember he shredded his knee.
I had to stop that. There's like, I don't even know
what it is. It's like a glorified flag
football fest. So it's terrible.
I don't even know what they do or where it is.
Don't care. The NBA for a while it was still
really enjoyable, but it's, it's become an absolute joke.
I don't know the exact scores of hockey, but I remember for years
it was like 11897. To me at least, the baseball All
Star game really truly does represent, I think it represents
like the the closest approximation to what it's
really like when you play the actual game because guys, you
know, guys are still throwing 95, guys are still swinging
hard, guys are still chasing balls and pursuing balls with
vigor trying to make plays. They're still throwing peas
across the diamond like it. It looks like baseball.
So this to me is the ultimate All Star game that includes the
world. And it's it's so good for the
growth of the game. You know, there's some people
who don't love it. That's fine.
You know, process it how you will.
I'm into it man. Officially.
Quick side swipe. So do you think that those
players, you know, comparatively from like baseball to football
All Star games, do you think it's because there's like less
of a tendency for like a crazy career debilitating injury
within baseball that players kind of keep up a similar play
style in their All Star game or WBC Classic compared to like the
other All Stars I. Don't you know?
I don't, I don't know. I listen, I'm telling you how I
feel from my point of view, if I was a general manager, you know,
and I'm, I'm running the Pirates.
Do I really need to see both skins out there before Saint
Patty's Day dialing things up against probably the best lineup
in the history of baseball anywhere?
Certainly one through 7 or so. I mean to navigate that
Dominican lineup. Wow, it's just dog, dog, dog
studs. It's it's insane.
So I, I don't, I don't know, maybe baseball players are are I
don't want to say wired a little differently, but I can't explain
it. I, I don't know.
I, I think I do think a lot of it is rooted in pride.
I do. Definitely.
I do like when you grow up in Japan and you're a baseball
player, your process is very different than, say, in America.
That doesn't mean that, like, a lot of Americans don't work
hard, but like in Japan, they practice a lot more than they
actually play games. And in the Dominican Republican,
you know, Puerto Rico and other Latin areas, like they really
are, are fighting to get off the island.
Like there's an old expression, hey, you walk.
You don't get off the island by walking.
You get off the island by raking you off the island by putting
balls in the seat and Havron pulls all the screws in the gap.
So it's like in a lot of ways, they're fighting for their for
their lives. And even when they get those
exorbitant contracts, that doesn't fade so they don't lose
their connection to their homeland, which which which I
think what has happened now is that's kind of pushed us a
little bit to view it a little bit more seriously and through a
more competitive prism. Like we might not celebrate as
much. We might process things a little
bit. It's a little bit more of a
business approach, at least what they put out.
I don't know that that's like a broad brush in the stereotype,
but it is. I mean, the Dominican team
celebrates, you know, everything and their presence, I mean, it's
palpable. Team USA little different.
And that's how we do business and that's how they do business.
And it's a great, it's a great contrast, but the pride that is
burning, you know, within Harper and Judge and Schwarber and
schemes and wit who has made some sick plays and shortstop,
it's been a lot of fun. So hopefully you guys enjoyed
it. I certainly enjoyed it.
That's only one thing on the table.
We got a lot to do today until I get into the stuff about what
Joe B said about the fan. You saw that?
It's going to be spicy. Yes, Sir.
Yeah, First saw the tweet and then you sent over the quote.
Man, I've got a lot of opinions on that.
I'm sure you do. I've got a lot of opinions on
that, which I will obviously get to.
All right, so let's get to the Johnnies now.
First of all, and I said this on the air the other night with
Mink. I don't know what it sounded
like, you know, because I wasn't there when Hulk Hogan in the
Iron Cheek to win the championship, you know, and
Hulkamania was born. And then obviously us
WrestleMania and all that stuff at the Garden.
I wasn't there. But I don't know that it could
have sounded much better and louder and different.
And it's that perfect combination of like energy and
anger and anticipation and territoriality, you name it.
That place was on fire on Saturday night.
And St. John's just kicked the crap out
of Yukon, just destroyed them. So I was surprised when it, when
the seating came out. I was surprised and I was
disappointed all right, but I'm also of the mindset.
Quit crying now. Saint John's isn't crying about
it. A lot of fans are.
I get it. You want to know like.
That. I, I also should probably say
that I don't, I don't mean the diehards, but there's a lot of
people at this time of the year who kind of jump in now and
their first reaction is, and, and it's a fair one.
I'm not saying it's off base. Like, wait a second.
So Saint John's won the Big East tournament, Saint John's won the
regular season championship, Saint John's had a net ranking,
which is a, which is an important thing, of 17 inside
the top 20. They had a Ken Palm ranking of
17. They won 19 of 20 games to
finish the year. They were ranked 13th in the
country going into the weekend. And they played UConn, who's a
two seed, and it's been top five and top 10 all year and they
beat him two out of three times. So why is Saint John's A5 seed?
Well, I mean, there's a couple of things at play here.
Number one, the Big East is really down.
And when you when you look at UCONN's resume, they have more
Quad 1 success. And there's a reason why the
quad one matters. Now, I'm not the ultimate
arbiter here. I don't I do think it's a little
unfair that there are five seed. I do what I think is patently
offensive is that they're shipping them out to California.
That doesn't make any sense. Like, in my mind, I'm saying
when when they beat UConn and the matter in which they beat
them, right? Not to mention St.
John's didn't trail in the entire Big East tournament.
They went in and they whacked Providence.
They went in and they whacked Seton Hall.
They went in and they dismantled Yukon, Boom, boom, boom.
So I thought that they would be more justly rewarded, but they
weren't. So, you know, it is what it is.
I think the thing that's a little bit unfair is really the
location again. And I was just trying to plot
this out in my own mind as I was getting ready for.
All right, So what do I think is going to happen with travel?
Where are we going to go? When do you think we'll leave?
And I was told that we were going to leave early, like if
they did get shipped out West and they played Friday, we were
leaving Tuesday, which we are, as I said before, leave tomorrow
night. So not that I'm complaining and
not that you guys really care. You just want the content.
I get it. I get to go on a charter plane
to San Diego. I'm not going to complain much.
J Rod. I mean, if I'm complaining,
let's just hold on. Let's just get a little reality.
Thank God I've remained completely grounded because I've
gotten older. Like I haven't changed at all
with that. I never will.
If I was complaining today, I mean really complaining, we got
to go to San Diego, 83° and sunny.
You got a thermostat over the entire city.
And I haven't been to San Diego in a minute.
It's been a while. It's been like 20 years.
I get to go. It's like I got to take a
connecting flight out of JFKI, drive my car to a private
airport, and I walk on a charter plane and have food waiting for
me, and I have two big seats and I could sleep, I could read, I
could do music, I could do work, which I'll do all four of those
and then go to a beautiful hotel for a couple nights.
If I complain about and get a chance to call NCAA tournament
games again, if I'm complaining about that, it is time to leave
the business because that is a phenomenal few days.
Yeah. No, I mean, that's a, you know,
obviously not a vacation, but that's a nice trip.
A vacation, that's a nice trip. There we go.
Hey, I don't have to go and practice.
I just got to go and do the games.
True, You know what I mean? Now I'll go to the shoot arounds
and I'll go to the walkthroughs and you know, I might sit.
Rick's a little different. See, when Mullen was the coach
and, and others as well, they would let Mink and I sit in like
the way it goes when you're on the road with a college team,
you'll, they have like a big spread for, for all the meals,
right? And it's usually in a, in a
conference room. And I mean all the, for the
eggs, the pancakes, the bacon, the sausage, then the apple
juice. I mean the protein shakes, I
mean the granola, it's full spread everything.
And when you're eating, that's when they, they roll in the big
TV and they just have it on loop and they've already done their
scouting and the players are eating and watching and they
splice it up. So it's literally play, play,
play, play, play. The video coordinators do that
and they're just watching who they're playing and they're just
getting a better sense of what's coming their way.
Rick doesn't, Rick doesn't let us do that.
We can, we can eat, but we've got to, we've got to be, you
know, a little bit after the team and doesn't want us to
watch film, which is fine. Every coach has their process.
I have no problem with that. But really, outside of calling
the actual games, we'll be having a Margarita.
So there we go. Am I going to be doing nothing?
Explore in San Diego? How about?
I got to get now I got to see Mink with a Margarita in them.
That's my God, that would be. That would be incredible man.
Yeah, man. Listen, it it it is horseshit.
It really is. When you look at this again,
just listen to the resume. Biggie's regular season champs.
Biggie's tournament champs. I said 17.
I'm sorry. Net of 1617, Ken Palm beat UConn
2 out of three times. They won 19 to 20 and he's
shipping them out West now. Because I was starting, I said
this before as I was starting to structure my my week here.
Part of me was like, wow, it would be easier if they're
placed in Philly because then I don't have to go down a day
early. I could do an extra show from my
office and then figure things out on the road.
I could drive down to Philly, like I drove up to Providence
last year and WFAN wound up getting me a radio station like
the sports station up in Providence.
And I did that Thursday and Friday show with Sal.
I was on location in Providence. That was obviously back in New
York. So I'm like, I feel they would
be appealing. Buffalo's a quick trip, but you
know, I've been to Buffalo, kind of want to see something new.
Tampa would be great. Go hang out with my guy Booty,
catch up with the Yankees, maybe get around the golfing, which I
guess I could still do in San Diego, but jeez, I'm going to go
out there and shoot a one O 9 on some nice course in San Diego.
Hey, funny story for you, J Rod you're going to laugh at.
This. Yeah.
What's up all? Right.
So when was it? Oh God.
Oh, let's see. I moved to Las Vegas, my second
radio job. This is how I this is how I view
my life. My, I've got to chronologically
in my in my seared in my brain when I graduate, graduated
college, when I got my first radio job.
And then obviously I know every single stop that I've been at.
So I'm able to very quickly remember where I was anyway.
And I remember celebrating New Year's Eve 2000.
Remember why 2K? Well, you don't Everybody was
scared of why 2 Ki was on the strip.
I was actually on the Strip hanging out in Las Vegas.
Anyway, so the the, the hold on. What is this?
Is that something I'm going to want to read here?
Hang on. Yes.
What do we got? Pop that up real fast.
Pop that up there. What do we got?
OK, I can get. I can get.
I can get to that after. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell the story and then we'll pop it back up.
Hang on. OK, So like Vegas, I mean, I'm
almost I can't I can't tell that story.
That's why there was one, but I got to leave part of it out.
I. See I.
See, I'm trying to navigate this in my mind and I'm like, now I
leave one part out and this part I can tell you.
So I'm in Vegas and I remember the year, I guess it was, I get
there for 2000. I think it was 2001.
Long story short. That's by the way, that's going
to be a new segment. Long story short because I said,
oh, real. Although it should really be
short story long. That's really what we can.
Who are we kidding, Jay? Ron.
It's got to be short story. Long there is a comment last
episode I was dying it was like this dude just loves like the
soliloquies. I can't help it.
I know, I know Short story long with BT Anyway, short story
long. So in in Las Vegas, I rented a
house with three of the guys that I worked with, the radio
station. And I mean, that's, that was the
story. I'm one of those.
I was going to tell you one of the stories, but I'm not.
So we're like me, I'm like, I have to see Tony Gwynn hit in
person before he retires. And he had announced his
retirement. So we're in Nevada and I'm like,
no, let's, let's go to let's drive to San Diego.
Let's go. So we go to sit, we get in my
truck, we drive me, my buddy Chad Ray and Steve and myself go
to San Diego having a sick time listening to music.
We get a little fleabag motel. Wouldn't none of us have any
money and we get the cheapest. So they're playing the Atlanta
Braves, right? So got it.
It was a maybe say like a Wednesday night and we get there
was and we get 5. This is where the Chargers used
to play football at Qualcomm. All right, so we again, we have
the money. We get $5 seats behind home
plate of like in the second level, like the football, maybe
even 3rd, 5 bucks and just banging back beers, going nuts,
whatever. And then Lord knows what we did
that night. The next day they're playing a
double header against against the Braves and Maddox is
pitching and I think, I think I haven't got the second start.
I actually got a baseball from Greg Maddox, but that's not the
story. So the first night.
Now the whole purpose of the trip is to go to San Diego to
see Tony Gwynn swing a bat in person because aside from Ted
Williams, he's the most gifted, skilled tech like technician and
surgeon to ever touch a piece of wood and try to hit a spherical
object. Me, I got to see Tony hit.
So we got a little delayed. We were doing whatever we were
doing, and we're in the parking lot of Qualcomm and we're
getting ready to walk into the stadium and I hear, oh, God, I'm
here now batting for the Padres right fielder Tony Gwynn.
Oh, my gosh, this is first step back.
Come on. Right.
So I'm like, shit. I was like a little bit annoyed,
but not a big deal right now. We settle in, we get another
beer. We go up to the upper deck
behind a plate again. Short story long, somebody hits
a ball down the right field line.
He's chasing it, pulls his hamstring.
He's out for a month and a half. I never get to see him hit.
I never. Got Oh my gosh.
Yes, the one at bat. When I went, I was in the
parking lot walking into the stadium and then when we get in
there, I see him make a defensive play.
He comes up limping and he's gone.
I think he missed like a month or two.
Like it was, it was kind of a serious.
That is insane dude. That's the last time I was in
San Diego. That's the last time.
Well, let's hope for some better luck this time, alright?
Yeah, yeah. Listen, I'll do this more a
little bit tomorrow. But, you know, you look at the
match up here, Northern Northern Iowa is a is an interesting one.
You know, I mean, listen, St. John's, St.
John's obviously supposed to win this.
I saw their 10 1/2 point favorites.
I don't get too wrapped up in that number one, because I call
the games and I would never touch that stuff doing games
that I call. But you know, spreads in the
NCAA tournament don't mean a whole lot to me, all right,
Because I've seen St. John's offense in the half court
struggle enough to know that, you know, if it's the wrong
night and the other teams banging in triples and you know,
and it's a bad match up in terms of style.
I'm not even saying that it is, but you take nothing for
granted. So it's going to be a tough
battle and they're a buttoned up defensive team and they're going
to talk about Northern, Northern Iowa and they're going to look
to take the air out of the ball and St.
John's wants to get up and down and play at a good pace.
So it is an interesting contrast.
That's the first thing that I see.
The next thing that I see would be if St.
John's is able to win that first game, and they should.
Now you got to go through Kansas and that's where Zooby was.
So and, and they always do this stuff, like they always try to
look for stories and try to make it like cute and like, oh,
remember this coach, this rivalry here and hey, if this
team advances and that team advances, oh, remember when this
happened back in the day? I actually kind of like that
they do that. And I think Kansas is, is
beatable. I think St.
John's is actually better than Kansas.
That doesn't mean they're going to win doesn't mean Kansas is
going to win their match up, but it it does equate to some real
theater and it's an absolute beast of of a region, which we
get into a little bit afterwards.
Are three Bernie questions coming up in a bit.
Not yet, you know, and then you just look at this magical ride
and it it really it it's amazing.
I, I was going to make the other day during, I guess this would
have been during the Seton Hall game.
I think on the air. I, I found the stat.
I didn't, I don't even know who found it.
Otherwise I would give them credit.
St. John's is 42 and four in Big E's
play under Rick Pitino, like in their last 46 something crazy.
I mean, it's just it's amazing what this guy's done and how
fast he's done it. Who do you like in the Final
Four in regards to in regards to baseball?
Any chance of the Subway Series watch party?
Willie? I appreciate that.
But, yeah, two very different things.
I'll do the Final Four stuff. I'll give you that tomorrow.
I want to let it breathe a little bit.
I can't come out and fire all the bullets today.
Take it easy. I will get there.
I promise you will be. And thank you for that good
super chat. Thank you.
Yeah. Subway Series watch party.
Matter of fact, we're working on something now.
I remember talking to Sal about this.
I asked him if he was free and he is.
So it hasn't come to fruition in terms of the contract yet.
So I'm not going to announce anything.
I think there's a good chance it will happen where it will be me
and Sam at an awesome spot in New Jersey right now.
It's supposed to be that Friday that the first Friday of the
Subway Series. But again, no contracts signed.
I'd say we're inside the 20. Like we're just getting inside
the red zone. I think it's going to happen,
but I'm not going to put business out there if it's not.
Some of you think I'm nuts and and that's fine because it's
subjective that that's that's fine.
But like one thing I have to, I just really, I got to call
people out not by name, but some of you are such shallow thinkers
that it's really, it's actually pathetic.
What do you mean by that? I'll tell you so when you put a
tweet out there and I'll read some of the comments, I really
don't care. Sometimes I'll read.
I will. I really don't care.
Anything that's natively written about me.
Don't care. I used to.
I fully transparent with that. It used to bother me.
Doesn't matter at all. Don't care, don't care.
Love the support, appreciate the support, the haters.
It's fuel. It's all good.
Some people get personal. I just keep it moving, never
respond, whatever. I'm not even talking about that.
I'm talking about people who seemingly lack the intellect,
the ability to have depth in their mind to process something
that I write and I I might be pretty convoluted with some of
the stories I tell short story long, I'll give you that terms
of writing. I mean, I'm pretty freaking
succinct. It's very rare that you don't
know what I mean when I write like that, That's that I could
do that in my sleep and commutative thought.
And yet some of you bozos still don't understand it.
I'm I'm kidding, but you just don't.
So when I put a tweet out like Rick Pitino's the greatest head
coach in the history of college basketball, which by the way, I
believe it's, it's fine to refute that.
Of course, it's subjective. There's a lot of other names.
What about John Wooden? What about Adolf Rupp at
Kentucky? What about, let's say, Jim
Calhoun at UConn with three championships?
What about Coach K? Obviously.
What about Bobby Knight, perfect season back in 76, the great
team with Steve Alford? I understand.
I get it. I'm not saying my answer is
right, but the response is this is the shallowness that drives
me insane. Coach K's got more wins.
No shit he's got more wins. Like the bottom line assessment
by some of you, it really it I, I just it's annoying.
It's it annoys me because you are some of you, not all of you.
Some of you are unable to just get past the first little speed
bump and have an intelligent dissection of a topic where
there's no right or wrong answer and actually point to stuff and
incorporate that in your pushback.
Souls goes got more wins. Souls goes got more
championships. Dude, wow, you you know what
that limited history you're amazing like, and this happens a
lot. Aaron Judge is and I believe
this, but it doesn't mean that that I'm right.
Aaron Judge is the greatest baseball player that I've ever
seen. No World Series.
He can't pay. He's not what like the inability
to separate certain things? Is it it?
It really is. It's actually sad.
So anyway, just had to get that out there.
Now, I'll tell you why Rick Pitino is the greatest college
coach in the history of college basketball.
Now, first, let's take a little history lesson here.
And when you do stuff like this, and I said this with the Hall of
Fame that came up the other day on the show, like invariably you
wind up denigrating others. And that's not my intention.
I'm not to to elevate. I'm going to tell you why I
believe Rick is that guy, but I'm not it's not going to like,
oh, let me take a shot at Wooden to tear him back or Coach K.
No, I'm going to provide some context here.
Would you please understand one thing that John wouldn't want as
much as that? I mean, John wouldn't the
ultimate winner. You know, I know all the
numbers. Trust me.
I know that Coach KS got more wins.
I know, I know, I know John Wooden.
But John Wooden did it clean. John Wooden had a money man.
John. UCLA used to pay people.
Look it up. All right, They did like this.
This thought that it was the cleanest operation.
They just got the best players and they had this tremendous
connectivity. And John Wooden was the greatest
strategist and the greatest motivator in the history of
college basketball. He had Lou Alcindor.
Yeah. Bill Walton.
All right, That's not the take away from them because he got
them. They had the money, man.
All right, Coach K phenomenal dude, phenomenal.
Jim Calhoun. If I got to win one game,
honestly, if I can't pick Pitino, I really might pick Jim
Calhoun because I knew that they were tough and good and he's a
great coach and they were going to be ready, right?
Coach K outside of Army with all theirs, I love West Point.
You know that coached at one spot.
See, to me, greatness is also about being adaptable and
transforming and changing with the times.
So let me just take out a little journey.
Rick Petit. I'm not going to even get into
Boston University and Rick did great things there as well.
But and respect to be you the terriers, but I got to start a
little bit after that. So when he goes to Providence,
the three-point shot is introduced.
Everybody's like that's that's that's not a successful shot.
That's not a good high rate of efficiency.
We can't play basketball that way.
We need to dump it into the post.
I don't know why I always talk like that when I'm trying to
talk like an old coach. I don't know why, but I do think
that it's it, it gets the best. It's like my antiquated older
voice that's resistant to change.
I don't know if it works, but that's what I do, right?
No, but we got to sit those down screens and we got to pump it
into the big down low. Let's go. 5 passes before we
shoot. All right?
Rick comes out and says, no, I got my own math here.
So we're going to embrace the shot and if we miss a bunch, but
we make a couple, that math is better than you going for two
every game. So first of all, he was the
first true pioneer to embrace the three-point shot.
Check Now the fact that he's done it and I'll just throw BU
on the table for a minute. The fact that he's done it
basically everywhere, whether it's a small school like Big U
BU, whether it's a small ish smallish Providence school in a
monster without comparison at that point.
Best conference by far in the world, right?
Get that team to the final four and then go, I'm thinking about
the Celtics and the Knicks, even though we did very well with the
Knicks. But then he goes to Kentucky and
one more inch and the plug would have been pulled on their
program and they would have had no basketball and they would
have got the death penalty. And he goes and he wins a
championship. He revives them immediately.
First year, no scholar. Like, it's just what he did
there was insane. Then he basically does the same
at Louisville. Then he goes to St.
John's, and nobody knows this more than me.
The brand was dead. The basketball program, it was
over. It was a wrap.
The only thing that we had about St.
John's was history. And I love it, but it gets old.
Hey, remember when Chris Mullen did this?
Yeah, I do. I'd like to remember something
else here. I'd like to reference something
else. Remember when Walter Berry
blocked Pearl? Yep, Yep, I remember.
I was 11. I was in the car, heard my I
heard the game with my dad Ron Rowan hit the baseline, jump
shot Walter Berry 86 Big East championship finally ran down
the court to play defense and swatted pro from behind.
I remember yes. You know, remember when Mark
Jackson was drafted in the first round and went to the Knicks and
he was the rookie of the year? Yes, I remember.
It could be. I used to have the same Nike
dunks that Mark had, and we used to do the same thing in CYO that
he used to do. I remember, you know, the late,
great, love him, Malik Sealy. Yes, yes, I remember Malik
swooping to the hole and look like a ballerina, scoring more
than 2000 points at St. John's.
I remember. We all remember, but we also
remember where St. John's went from.
Every kid had a starter jacket, unless you were rocking the
Hoyas and that was that. That's just the way it was.
And every kid had red and white Nike dunks.
Every kid and everybody wanted to be Chris Mullen.
And everybody loved Louis like he was.
Even if you were Irish, he was your grandfather.
That's what it felt like, right? And then it disappeared.
Like I can go to Modell's or this before, like some of these
other bit, like did before Dick's, go to Modell's, go to
Herman's and Kings Plaza, get Johnny's gear.
I remember being in Sports Authority when I was in college
looking for a St. John's hoodie.
They're what I saw UConn, I saw Duke, I saw Michigan.
I saw everything. So Arizona, you know, Mike
Bibby, Miles Simon, you know, Lude Olson in New York, there
was nothing for St. John's.
And I know that he's been able to restore St.
John's because of the money. I get that.
Understood. But Kentucky spent $22 million
on their roster this year. I know Kentucky beat St.
John's earlier in the year. You tell me you had the better
season. St.
John's or Kentucky St. John's, all right.
And all of these different things, the adaptability and the
embracing early of the three-point shot conference
realignment when he was at Louisville, the Big East was one
way, you know, when he was Saint John's.
Now it's another way, all right, Five different schools, the
portal, the Nils. And here's the crazy part about
Rick Pitino. The best thing, I really believe
this, aside from like motivation and all that stuff, I think that
Rick's greatest trait as a coach is truly player development.
And now you've got to do it in a microwave setting because back
in the day, like Donovan Mitchell, Louisville come in and
bricks told the story. His mechanics wasn't really pure
shooter. Well, guess what?
You know, he's not leaving after one year because he's frustrated
because he didn't play or didn't play well.
You know, he's not leaving after one year because school wise
going to give him $575,000 more than Louisville.
You know what I mean? With the NIL, he's not looking
to bounce. He's staying.
And when he's in that Rick Pitino laboratory every single
day, look at him now, one of the best players in the NBA now
that's because of him and him putting the work in.
He said it so I don't I don't think I'm I'm out of school
saying it Without Rick Pitino, he's not this good because he
showed him the way. And without Rick Pitino, Zubi is
not this good. Just not.
He averaged 2 1/2 points a game. But Kansas didn't play.
Bill Self looked at him like, you know, I got AI, got a good
athlete at the end of the bench, 69, could run, could jump.
He ain't playing much for me. Instead, he goes down as an
icon, a Titan of the St. John's basketball program #1
because Zooby put the work in. But Rick showed him that the
like, the requisite work that you got to put in.
So for me, and I can't prove this like if John Wooden, if if
John Wooden was transported to college basketball today with
this, whatever his ultimate skill set was, the things that
he was best at right probably organization, team structure.
I'm I'm just guessing, but I think and I've read his book.
So that is part of it. The period of of of success.
It's it's phenomenal the those are transferable, but would they
be as successful with guys leaving for more money and the
different conference? Like my answer is is probably
no. And I know that Rick Pitino has
done it. So that's why I think Rick is
the best coach of all time. I really do Jay Rod, you want to
pop in for a SEC? I don't need you to push back.
But you are a big college basketball fan.
You don't have to stamp that a yes or a no.
But I'm, I'm curious as you hear that, what do you think?
No, I mean, I think I like your take and I think it's a pretty
unique take. I think, you know, yours is very
much built upon. Obviously, you know, you always
say this about Pitino, the adaptability sort of approach
and that sort of switching, switching teams and and finding
greatness wherever he goes. And I think I think that's a
great point compared to like a lot of the guys, guys like a
Bayheim, a Coach K Ashevsky, where you really look at them
for, you know, they're one great run with a single team that
maybe it consisted of one or potentially multiple national
championships, but they only really did it with one place.
And yeah, I mean, for me, like, I don't know, you Revere a guy
like Bayheim, but you also look at some of the later years and
you go, I mean, they were a little disappointing so.
A little. A lottle.
I.
Mean, especially, especially just like my you know, my first
couple of years at the school were God awful.
Like, I mean, it was, you know, his last season was the year I
think with, I mean, and with but what I think the last season was
the season. After with Joe.
Gerard and Kadari Richmond and JJ Starling's.
First season potentially, yeah. I.
Remember that team well? Brutal.
And then Kadari Richmond went. The Saint John's got a little
better the seat. First he went to Seat Hall.
Oh, really? So he did.
He went the double transfer. I did not know.
That within the conference. Because yeah, I was on, I was on
Facebook the other day and Saint John's Richmond Jersey popped up
and I was like, oh, he'll get it.
But yeah, no, I mean, Pitino obviously great.
And again, only, only celebrity I've met in New York, so I'll
keep singing his praises. There you go, there you go.
What time you know, let's it's about time I want to get to the
WF and stuff that that Joe Beningo said last week.
We'll get to that. First up though, it is it's a
Monday, obviously time for little three Bernie questions.
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All right, this is going to be an NCAA basketball theme here.
Burning questions up first number one number one, we get
the snow blowing. Number one.
You ready? All right, here we go.
Which region is the toughest headed into the NCAA tournament?
This one. This is the easiest one that
we've had so far on the show. I mean, without question, it is
the East region. Listen to these names.
You got Duke, you got Kansas, you got Saint John's, you got
Michigan State, they got UCLA. Oh, yeah, by the way, you've got
UConn as a two seed. And look at these coach.
I mean, listen, yes, it it possibly complicates Saint
John's, Saint John's world, which is what matters.
Even independent of that. I swear, like forget about that
for a moment. I just think that the NCAA did a
horrendous job of a really spreading out these Titans of
coaches and programs and blue bloods.
You should have spread it out a little bit more.
Think about this guy Pitino. Hall of Famer Billy Self, Hall
of Famer Tom Izzo, Hall of Famer Danny Hurley, 2 national
championships, obviously going to be Hall of Famer Mick Ronan
has over 500 wins, 526 wins, D1. You got John Shire, Duke, who is
who's got 121 wins. That's the most in four years in
the history of major, you know, of major Division One
basketball. So I mean, it is a gauntlet bro.
It is going to be brutal. The fan bases are going to be
rabid. It's going to be an absolute
scene. So that one to me is simple.
All right #2 what's a staple here of March Madness?
Little Cinderella time. Cinderella cut it up one time.
You don't know that song, that J Rod.
All right, so which Cinderella team is poised to make the most
noise in March Madness? Well, I got a couple that I was
thinking about. You know, some of these teams
I've seen play, some I have not, to be fair.
But obviously doing some research, South Florida's
thought to be a bit of a tricky. The Bulls in 11 seed.
Obviously VCU, they've got some veterans.
It's a pretty good program. They're an 11 seed as well.
And I want to keep an eye on like Troy, they've had a good
year. And Santa Clara as well.
Where Steve, I'm going to actually go though, my choice
here is the University of Akron, the Zips who are 12.
And let's face it, what's the what's the trickiest one of all
the all the matchups in the first round, Usually that 512
matchup, which is what St. John's is looking at anyway.
They are only 7 point dogs against number against 5C Texas
Tech, Texas Tech top and obviously is out that that hurts
them. And the last five games, or
though they lost five games, I'm sorry, the Zips did.
And all five were the teams that are going to the tournament
here. So they had a tough schedule.
They competed and they've got a top 15 national offense.
So, you know, you throw out the fact that they're pretty good
and they could shoot it. They're a three-point shooting
team. That's an equalizer.
Texas Tech, their best players out and they played some good
teams along the way. That could be a little tricky.
All right #3J Rod, what do you have #3 who #3 Here we go.
Who are the three greatest players in the history of
college basketball? And we could do 9 hours on this.
Wow. All right.
Now generally with stuff like when I did the Yankees and the
Mets lineup, their their all time lineup, I did post 80 for a
reason because I wanted to keep it the players that I've seen
with my own eyes. So you know, like DiMaggio and
Mantle and Ruth and all the Yankee greats.
And obviously if I did the pitching staff, I wouldn't, even
though I did see older Sieber, I didn't see vintage Seaver.
Anyway, I'm going to kind of break my own rule here because
it's so well chronicled and so documented the Titans of college
basketball that I'm going to do it.
And there's two that I've never seen play and there's one that I
obviously did. First of all, there's only one
answer for number one, that's Lou Alcindor.
I mean, that's it. All right.
So he's at UCLA from 66 to 69, Three time national champ,
freshman couldn't even play. Freshman were not allowed to
play varsity. He was a two time AP player of
the year. And Oh yeah, bye.
Because it was a little bit too easy for him.
They outlawed the dunk in college back.
I mean, didn't these dudes want to have any fun?
Like imagine sitting around in a room and actually coming up with
the rule or the thought, you know, guys, what might be good
for the growth of the game? Let's eliminate the dunk.
I mean, what dopes came up with that?
All right #2 I mean, I've seen the footage.
We know the tails, we know the legacy.
It's got to be Pistol Pete Maravich.
It's got to be. So.
Pistol Pete played for his pops at LSU 1967 through 1970.
Check this out now, Jay Rod, keep this up on the screen by
Jay Rod. I want you to pay attention to
this man. He averaged, thank you, 44.
That's a good student right there, boy. 44.2 points per game
all right 40 he averaged 44.2 What?
He. Yeah, but here's the craziest
part. There was No 3 point shot.
Dude, so this guy was just putting up like 20-30 shots a
game. And but he was efficient too.
There was somebody, I, I don't have it obviously in front of
me. Somebody went back and I don't
know if it was every game because I don't know what was
documentable from his early days at LSU, although I mean, it's
not the 1930s. They I think they had a most of
it in the late 60s. Somebody went back and they
actually measured like the jump shots that he hit.
Yeah, Yeah. And if they were to attach the
extra point value there, then the number was like he would
have averaged like 51 1/2 points a game.
Yes. So are you shooting?
So he was shooting. Long range.
Oh yeah, no, he was a guard, bro.
He was a he. And, and the thing about Pistol
P is that he played like he was on the schoolyard #1 for a white
kid to do that back, you know, at really ever that that's still
kind of rare, although less rare, but certainly back then.
And for anybody, you know, Oscar Robertson had flair and at
Cincinnati and some others as well.
But to like, play that way in the late 60s was almost like
counterculture, like, you know what I mean?
Like just wasn't, well, you know what I mean, of the old heads.
All right, Number one, I've seen this player play now I think
that this will get some pushback here.
I'm going Christian Leitner. I'm going to go with Christian
Leitner, Duke from 88 to 92. And this is when the game was
getting, I believe, tougher and tougher because now you got
obviously UCLA was a power out West, but Arizona out there with
Ludo Olson and those great teams and and obviously the East and
the Big East and the ACC was a monster back then.
So you got a two time national champion, a winner and also now
in hindsight, it's like, God, how the hell was this guy on the
Dream Team? But he was on the 92 Dream Team
for a reason. Now he didn't do anything.
You could get that off the screen.
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Remember the name Sullivan Propane.
It's, you know, he was on the team and you know, some people
have said, well, let's throw the token white guy on the team.
I don't think that that was it because you had Chris Mullen,
you had John Stockton. So it wasn't that I I really
think it was recognizing his place in the history of college
basketball and also thinking that he was going to be a great
pro. What was he taking third overall
by the T Wolves? And he was third and he wanted
to become a pretty serviceable NBA player.
But I remember and he had the the headband on and like the
floppy hair, you know, looked like the j.crew model.
And I'm like, God, this guy and I, I never hated Duke.
Like something like you, you either love Duke or or hate
Duke. I I was fairly not apathetic,
but I enjoy watching Duke play, certainly with Hurley and Grant
Hill and those teams and Leighton and Coach K.
What? But he was, I think he was
inarguably the most despised college player of all time,
maybe JJ Redick or Grayson Allen.
It's always like the white kid from Duke.
People hate because there's a thought that they're spoiled and
and whatever, you know? But actually, he came up in a
very blue collar. He's from, I think he's like
right from, I think it's Troy, NY, if I'm not mistaken, blue
collar not far from Syracuse, all the way up there cold.
His mom was a teacher, you know, had a couple of brothers.
He used to beat the shit out of each other like traditional
laters, you know, was a dog. So those are my answers.
You know, again, obviously you can, you can you can say that
that's crazy. Nobody could say Lou Alcindor at
one is crazy. I think if you really try to
respect the the annals of the game and the history of the
game, I think it maybe you maybe want to say Bill Walton.
All right, I thought about Bill, but to me, Pistol Pete, I had to
put him too. Yeah.
And then late #3 for the winning and for all the things that I
just said. I'm going to put him on the list
there. Jay, if I said to you now,
obviously you're a young buck here, greatest, greatest college
basketball player that you ever saw.
And before you answer that. That I ever.
That you that you ever saw. It's going to be a crazy take.
OK, Zion. Oh wow.
Yeah, I think so. It's, I mean, he was insane that
season. He was pretty great.
I mean, the highlights were there, the stats were there.
I think it just really shows how, you know, I how short of a
period of like real college hoops I've had to watch, like
when Zion's the best dude I've watched.
But obviously he was a great college basketball player.
So absolutely phenomenal. There's no doubt about that.
You know the thing, too, I'll give you a name that's great and
he's not one of the top three. But now we're just kind of
throwing names. How about Jim or Fredette at
BYU? He was great.
He. Was banging 35 and and Reddick I
mean he's there you got to throw these names out there see the
the challenge with this and it just is what it is it's a
byproduct of modern college basketball like we have the
ability and you know Ewing somebody like Patrick Ewing for
me somebody like Chris Mullen for me a couple of player Tim
Duncan in the ACC with with Wake Forest.
There's obviously a ton. I mean, I, I again, I could do
this for hours here, but the challenge now is that like,
imagine if Zion would have stayed at Duke for four years,
or even 3. One, you know, he might, you
know, he may have a bit even bigger NBA contract looking at
it now, like if he, you know, if he got that time to develop and
maybe got his health a little bit more in check, who knows
what he could be looking like. But it could also be one of
those circumstances where he made the right decision.
He got that big first overall contract.
He got the gag there. Yeah.
And, you know, he he's gonna keep making money.
He's not gonna be on a vet minimum for no I I I I.
Yeah, like, but when you come out at that age, J, that's why a
lot, you know, that's why the NBA wrath is really, it's really
a turn off. I get it.
It's the it's the way of doing business now.
But a lot of these kids, you're drafting somebody at the age of
19 or 20 and you know, you understand they're going to go
to a bad team to start and they're going to be surrounded
by a fairly inefficient team. Probably have a couple of
coaches by the time that player gets four or five.
But they get that second bag when they're like 2425.
And that's where you have a chance to make $8 billion as
these exorbitant contracts skyrocket.
You got guys making 70 a year. It's going to only go up and up
and up. But think about like, and again,
I'm just throwing names at because it's fun.
Think about Albert Iverson, what he would have looked like if he
was at Georgetown for four years, right?
Come on. Or you know, even Ray Allen for
four years at UConn. It's, it's, it's, it's crazy to
think about that. And they do get penalized a
little bit in terms of that history because anytime you
pull, you pull up a name from the past, It's a little, it's a
it's a comet that's shooting across the sky.
And you're trying to, you know, you're, you're reacting to what
you saw, but you're also trying to piece together in your mind
like what would they have been compared to Alcindor or Walton
or Layton or guys like that. So good stuff.
I pop a couple. I'm going to get to the Beningo
stuff in a minute. Pop a couple of texts up here.
Dear Rod, can you do that for? Me.
Let's see. Hey, BT yeah, N 50 the same time
as John Rothstein. This NCAA MBB recall and
knowledge is one-of-a-kind. I know John very well.
I absolutely love John. John Rothstein's great guy.
He's absolutely out of his mind. He is a nut job.
He is. He is crazy in terms of what he
knows. And yes, I was at 10:50 When
when So John one, we did this thing.
This is what now not not about John here because John, he
really is what he know. I don't think I don't know.
I don't know anybody that knows more about college basketball
than him. I mean, nobody, yeah, even
somebody like Fanta who is phenomenal as very different and
I love that. So John think at the Garden the
other night. Great.
I'm so happy for him. Great dude.
I actually I'm going to get him on the show.
We we connected, we got numbers there.
So we'll get John up and John Panther up at some point.
And but he's different. He knows like all the but no
doubt he is very well versed, but like John Rothstein, it's
frightening where he will say I don't know something like, you
know, 1991 E regional Sweet 16 match up.
So when I don't know, I just I don't even know name to throw
out a minute and 9 seconds left. He hit a 22 footer like it's
crazy. His recall's insane to the
point. So when we're at 10:50, you
know, because we didn't have a good signal, that's when
obviously Kay was there, Donnie was there, I was there, Stephen
A was there. That was right before Max got
there. We had a really good lineup,
good roster, but nobody could hear us because the signal was
awful and we were trying to do things which I get to try to
stand out a little bit. So if you remember on ESPNTV
there was this thing called ESPESPN Dream job and a couple
of sportscasters wound up winning and then they went up to
they wound up going like the ESPN 2 or ESPN news.
What whatever it was, I don't even know.
So so we did our radio version and Rothstein won, right?
And then he started doing like updates during some of the shows
and he did a lot on my show. And I just love the guy because,
you know, talking college hoops and, you know, I talk about
family and it just, I know John really well.
And there was one point, though, because then we would get him on
to breakdown like on a day like today, you know, like, if this
was the old days, he would have been on my show, right?
And the guy runs through the bracket and I finally had to
tell him I'm like John. I, I, I don't even care about
the 7th man on Northern Iowa. I don't care.
I nobody, nobody cares except you and the Northern Iowa fans.
You got to. You got to stop.
Hitting us? We've got breaking news.
What do we? Got Is it good?
What do we got? Nets, We've got Justin Fields
traded to the Chiefs. Justin Fields traded to the
Chiefs. Just what the hell did they get
for him? It's got to be a 7th rounder.
2027 sixth round pick there you. Go see ya.
All right. Good job, Mooji.
There we go. What?
The hell are they going to do with them?
They're going to play quarterback.
You know, there was a thought he was going to turn into running
back. All right, so listen, I didn't
know what was coming at me. First of all, it sounds like
we're getting bombed when we hear that.
Let's go. Oh my God, we could take cover
here, the sports radio shelter. All right, You know, I'm not
going to stick with it too much because it is a a late round
pick. But this is where you have to
feel good about Darren Mooji. You just have to, you have to.
I don't know what Glenn's going to be, but Mooji's the man and
Mooji's the real deal because #1 he is aggressive #2 he isn't
doubled down on his mistakes. Like he comes in year 1, is in
GM AG, one years at first years head coach.
They knew they had to change the quarterback situation.
There was some some evidence in in Pittsburgh and even a little
bit at the end in Chicago. All right, Justin Fields getting
a little bit better than a little bit.
And this is documentable because I've done it.
You know, a little uptick in stats, completion percentage up
a little bit, touchdowns a little bit up, INTS down a
little bit. And I mean a little bit like
barely perceptible, barely visible evidence that he was
getting better. But they're sitting there
saying, all right, we have a pretty good old line.
There's no franchise quarterback to get.
We got to get somebody who's young.
We're going to run them a lot, try to have a bowl control
offense and we're going to rebuild it this way.
Now. They did it.
It didn't work out and they got rid of them and they didn't cut
them. They traded them.
So I mean, how were they able to make the last trade that they
made? Think about it.
They swapped, right? They swapped with the Raiders
and they they swapped picks, you know, 7th and 6th round.
So I do I like it. I I really do like it.
I'm fine with it. I think it's good.
But I'm not going to go nuts here.
I mean, we, we breaking news is like at some point we're going
to get breaking news during the Aaron Glenn's fired or we're
going to get some real. Brains.
Yeah, no, I mean we need we need something great like that to go
down. That would be that would be very
fun. I don't.
Even know what the hell I was saying before that.
Jeez. John Rothstein.
John Rothstein, Knowledgeable guy.
Thank you. Good job, Jay.
And I remember just telling him finally, I'm like, John, you're
hitting me. I I don't even know what the
hell you're talking about. Like I don't know any of these
players. I don't care if I don't care and
I'm starting to wander as you rifle through the 8th man who
averages 5.7 points a game for some mid major.
I love that you know that I love that you love that I don't care
So, but John's the best. Like so you know, whatever.
We just got to kind of do a little more surface.
But I used to have model all the time and I told him too.
I'm like, you got to get a hobby, man.
I have told, I've told John he's like my hobby and his sayings
are hysterical. We sleep in May.
He is, he really is a unique dude.
Like I don't know how else to express it.
I'm a big fan of John. Number one, he's a friend, but
he and he's a great guy. But I tell him I'm like, dude,
you're going to be 300 lbs soon if you don't watch what you eat.
You know, I every, you know, Sundays he's got 4, you know, a
pound of Rigatoni. He's got, you know, chicken
fries, he's got the meatballs. He's got this, he's got that all
the different restaurants he hits.
He's an old school soul and he's a great guy.
All right, you guys ready to get in some WFAN stuff?
What do we got? What are we going to cook up
here? J Rod, how we feeling about
this? We think.
Could get spicy, could get spicy.
Could get, could, could. So did you guys catch what Joe B
said the other day? I know that you did.
That was a rhetorical question to my producer.
It was on the Jake Aspen show. Jay does a lot of jets, a lot of
jet stuff, right? So Joe was, I'm sure talking
about The Jets and obviously getting in some other stuff.
Joe B had this to say about the station and where the station is
right now. Quote, the fan will never be
what it once was. I know I work part time there a
couple of days, you know, blah, blah, blah.
But the days of Imus and the days of Mike and the Mad Dog and
the days of Steve Summers and myself overnight, all the that
Eddie Coleman, Dave Sims, those days, well, we'll never see
anything like that again. He continues.
The heyday we've all seen the heyday of the fan and sports
talk radio in general. OK, there's a couple of ways to
interpret that. Number one, I think if you see
the quote, I think that you could say Joe's hating on the
station. I don't.
I don't take that away from I don't.
That's not what I get. All right, I think the Jay that
Joe is, is leaning into a lot of truth there, a lot of truth
there, right. I think that things have changed
a lot and they're going to continue to evolve, you know,
and and year by year, sadly, you know, and, and radio in addition
to other stuff, but radio has afforded me to have a pretty
good living. So I'm always going to support
radio. I'm going, I'm almost going to
have radios back. I just am, right.
But each year you get a little sliver of revenue relevance
chiseled off. It's less relevant than it's
ever been in my lifetime. That is a fact.
OK. And people can protest that.
That's fine. Just look at the numbers from
revenue and just open your eyes and see what's going on in the
world in terms of content. And that's the only answer.
Like that's the only, I guess you can have other opinions, but
that's the that's the reality of what's happening.
You see what I find interesting about that?
What, Joe? Said.
Is, And I want to be careful here because I know how this
game works. Like it happened with Kay when
he was on the show and he was talking about his show.
Yeah. And the politics.
And it was sliced up. And I'm not taken out of
context. Mike said it, and whatever I
say, I'll stand by. I'm not saying that.
I want to just make sure I preface this.
I understand the world we're in. You say something gets clipped,
it gets cut. It's out there for everybody to
disseminate and you open yourself up to being either
criticized or, or or whatever, and that's fine.
I'm a big boy. That's fine.
So I'll tell you what I really believe, right?
That's what we do on the show. That's what I've always done.
Don said something about, you know, he should have been more
aggressive and it bothered him with his name not being on the
show. Bing cut that up.
I didn't cut it up. National news in terms of this,
this medium. See the thing when I think that?
Some people think that, Joe. 'S saying that it's not as good
as it used to be. And I don't think that Joe was
saying that. I don't think that that was
Joe's intent at all. I think what Joe was saying is
really what I'm saying. Like the things have changed so
much that when when somebody like Joe Beningo or like Steve
was to say it or Mike or dog or even if Boomer was to say it,
which he wouldn't because he's still on the air.
But like one of those, you know, old school, you know, Russ like
somebody who was there a long time, you'd have said said it.
Jodie Mac, Susan, it's not to me.
It's not a knock on the current talent.
I don't think that that's that's what Joe was going for at all.
But now this is what I I really do believe what I'm about to say
here. I think that back then, being a
star on WFAN was pretty easy. It was pretty easy because there
was nowhere else to go. That's just the reality of it.
That's the reality of the. History of the station.
So the station was born in 1987. There was no 1050 ESPN Radio at
that point. There was no 98.7 FM ESPN Radio
and there was no 880 ESPN Radio. Back then, if you were on the
air, you were almost by default. You were a rock star.
You were a persona that is almost impossible to replicate.
Today. It's impossible, right?
So you think about the way we think about the way things were
back then. Who are the stars?
The stars were the the one or two main writers like Lupica,
right? Even though I think he's awful
to read, I cannot. I Lupica, stop.
Lupica was a star, right? Raisman was a massive star in
terms of being a voice, in terms of the industry.
Mushnick, who I guess is still battling Carton, That was crazy
on that story the other day. My God.
I mean, listen, Mushnick is the guy's never happy.
I just I don't get it. Wow, if it's that joyless, stop
writing about it. I, I don't, I don't understand.
There are some good things you could write about, right?
My goodness, right, So those guys had juice because they had
the laptop and what they wrote controlled the mindset of a lot
of people. I remember.
It's true. Like I remember when right when
race now raceman. As I got older, raceman actually
started to treat me differently and and maybe maybe I just got
better. I don't know.
Maybe I got more humble. Maybe I got I got more buttoned
up. I don't know.
But when I first burst on the scene, raceman used to just shit
all over me and I wanted to grab him by the throat and knock him
out. I can't tell you how much it
used to bother me. I remember for one time might
have a few This could be an interesting segments 2 side
stories woven in here. I remember playing golf is when
I lived in Manhattan pre kids, pre marriage, all that stuff.
I remember I used to love coming back from golf and going to get
like there was a Dunkin' Donuts on the corner getting like a
decaf and getting a bottle of water.
And then right next to it was a newsstand.
Then they had the early version of the Daily News.
And you know, I wanted to see what Raisman was writing about
our business. Not just me, but our business.
And I remember like every time he wrote something I would
invite because I was young, I was a young broadcaster.
I was worried that not that I really cared what he thought.
I didn't mean him to say, oh, wow, you're really good.
I didn't need that validation from him.
What I was worried about was, jeez, if it keeps writing the
stuff, are my bosses at ESPN going to say maybe Raisman's
right? Like they did carry some clout
back then when you look at like network decisions.
I'm not saying that Raisman's opinion ultimately shaped the
final answer, but it was it was an if you know, you know it was
an important read, right. Anyway, remember one time he
wrote something and like it was personal and it was, I thought
it was off base and I called up my agent and I flipped out and I
said, get that? Like I can't even say it like I
could, but I'm not. I just want to go nuts here.
Get him on the phone. I'm like, I've I've often had it
enough. Like I flipped out and then I
just learned and then I actually saw him all the time over.
That's and why when I was doing the Wheelhouse and he was doing
Daily News live ironically with Joe B and and I developed a good
relationship with him. I'm like, he's not a bad guy,
right? And I think he understood me
more and I understood him and whatever.
I think the tone changed a bit. But back then it was all right.
What did the Knicks do? Hey, I got to put on channel.
I got to see the news. I got to watch the highlights.
Hey, did Donnie go deep tonight? It's a late game or I got to
flip on the radio in the morning.
You were a rock star by default, dude.
Now, now this is the part I really believe this.
Now this is the part that might get me in trouble, and that's
fine. Some of the legends right on
WFAN. Do I really?
Think. Do I really think that if this
was the early 90s and being sad we're on WFAN that we we
couldn't have that type of persona?
I absolutely believe that we could have.
There's not a doubt in my mind because we were loud, we were
unapologetic. We were a little controversial.
We had some connections, got to know the Yankee manager pretty
well. Sal got some good inside stuff.
You know, with the Mets being around S&Y, I'm bringing you
Saint John's stuff. I told you Patina was going to
get hired, so we had a little juice.
And I'm not trying to equate myself to Mike and Chris at all
because that's ridiculous because I'm a little Pebble
compared to the massive boulder that is constructing Mount
Rushmore. And they are both on it.
Obviously. I'm not saying that at all.
That's why, again, I know how the game works.
Oh, BT said that, you know, him and Sal would have dwarfed Mike
and Chris, and I didn't say that.
And, and, you know, you guys know I didn't, but you don't
think for a second that I don't think in my own mind that if I
was born into a certain time, like a different time period,
that I could have done that. I do.
I absolutely do. I believe that with all my
heart. I really do.
I believe I could. I could have done it with Sal
and I believe I could have done it without Sal.
I believe I myself could have done it right.
But you know, I was born when I was born and I didn't.
Get a chance to work at. FN until much later and that's
life and that's fine. And that's why since things went
down at the fan, you haven't served me.
You haven't heard me say a bad word and you won't.
Because I'm thankful for the three years that because I
really wanted to be able to say that I work there, man, because
the what it meant to me. So when I hear Joe say something
like this, like it hits me at all different angles.
I don't think Joe was trying to diss anybody.
I really don't now. And this is not a knock at all.
I'm sure some of you will take it as one, but I'm just saying
it's not. I love Joe, I love his wife.
I played golf with Joe. Joe's a good guy, really good
guy. If Joe did the same show today
that he did all those years on WFAN and we were in the year
2026 and he was like just starting out, but he had that,
like that was his game. Do I think, do I think that Joe
would be a legend? I don't.
I don't, I don't think so. I think Joe would be a voice
that some people love and some people, you know, especially
killing The Jets and dumping all the Mets and the craziness.
And it's one of the reasons I love Joe because he gave you
that energy and he gave you that bite and he gave you that
wrongness and he knew it mattered to Joe.
But Joe doesn't like analytics. Joe doesn't study numbers.
Joe, you know, has gotten more and more political as he's
gotten older. Now maybe he was younger.
Joe wouldn't talk about that stuff on the air.
It's a different game. It's different rules, like I've
got to follow different rules than Joe.
You know, Joe could just get on the fan and be Joe.
And it worked, you know, and it worked at an incredibly high
level. That's why Joe's a legend.
But do I think that somebody like Joe is more talented than
me? I don't no doing good show.
No, I, I don't and like part of the reason why you've got to
have depth doing this is because there were people out there.
I'm not saying Joe has no depth. I don't mean that.
But now I'm just kind of continuing the point.
There's a lot of people out there that are really good at
what they do and can create great content.
So Joe is not wrong when he says that you can get that.
Get the quote back up there again.
Jay, please want to read the to make sure I don't miss
misrepresent my guy. Joe All right.
The fan. I'm going to take this line by
line. The fan will never be what it
once was. I agree with that.
Number 2.
I know I work all right there. The days of Imus, the days of
Mike and OK, the days of Steve and myself overnight, all that
Eddie C, Dave Sims, those days. We'll never see anything like
that again. End Quote.
Now, if Joe is saying, and I don't think he's saying this,
keep that up please, Jay. Joe's not saying we'll never
have talent like Mike in Mad Dog or me or meaning Joe.
Not me, me, Joe Joe or Dave or Eddie C or schmooze.
If he is saying that, well then I totally disagree because
there's a lot of talent out there.
I don't think he's trying to say that at all.
I think he's what he's saying the what he is saying.
The relevance of those voices and how far they carried and the
juice that they had, right. That's what's changed here.
The heyday. We've all seen the heyday of the
fan and sports talk radio in general.
And with that, I agree with Joe. You can get it off.
I do agree with Joe. I really do, you know, think
about this guys. One of the great things about
radio was and I unfortunately, I wasn't really involved in it.
I would have loved to have been involved in it was the radio
wars and I wasn't involved in it because when I was at 10:50 they
would they would kick our ass because they were WFAN.
You know, we had a horrible signal.
We would just start out. They had a 20 year head start
all that. And by the way, they had an
amazing product that a great leader and Mark Chernoff.
They had two Titans that Babe Ruth and I'd say Willie Mays for
dog give him his giants love there.
You know, two of the best of all time.
But to stick with the baseball analogy, you know, OK, who's the
best player of all time? Well, you could say Babe Ruth.
You could say will be mage. You could say Hank Aaron, right?
But if you believe it's Babe Ruth, and here's the I'm going
to give you a, a sports radio correlation.
If you believe it's Babe Ruth, you're saying that Babe Ruth's
the greatest player of all time. And I could accept that based on
the numbers to an extent. But now I have to also say he
never played against minorities. African Americans weren't
allowed to play. Baseball, you know the the.
The Latino influence, I mean, it was pretty much all white guys
and they were great, but it's different, smaller pool.
So I think it's probably more that, you know what I mean?
I I just don't think. I, I don't, I'm sorry, I don't
think. That any of.
Those voices back then, we're better than the voices now.
I think they received differently.
I think for some people they're respected differently.
I think the way we have to do shows, and I'll say we because I
was there recently, the way we have to do shows, it's
different. You know, when you've got all
these outlets, you got YouTube, you got 9000 shows, TV, you got
everything, you got apps, you better be fucking on point right
away. You can't joke around and jerk
around. You got to start the show and
when you have to start the show right away, and I know a lot of
you have issues with this and and I didn't love it either.
I said this when you got to start the show right away, like
this combative nature. Some shows, you know, morning
shows a little different. It's a little more free flowing
and and like they let it breathe.
It's different, Joe, you know, but like me and sad would come
out swinging because that's basically what we were told to
do and I didn't even really love that.
We're going to swing naturally because he's sounding on me.
We're going to swing, but imagine if just imagine if every
YouTube show that you watch not gone, gone, not there FS1.
I don't even know what debate shows are on FS1 now.
I know Craig did something there, Skip did something.
I don't. I don't know what's on there
now, but whatever's on there now, right?
Imagine not got, not there. Good morning football.
They do a good job. They do a good show like
Schrager left. He was good.
It's a talented show. Great chemistry.
Imagine if that was gone. OK, take 880 like Rothenberg and
and Rick, I think that's a good morning show.
I think they're both very talented.
I do I think they know this stuff.
I think they have fun. You know, Rick played the game.
You know, Rothenberg's a nut job in a good way.
Passionate that will have a lot of fun guy talk.
That's a talented show. Imagine if that wasn't here gone
and it's just just imagine if it was.
I'll go to my lineup when I was there, Boomer and Geo, BT and
Sal. Evident.
Tiki, we'd be fucking rock stars.
We would be. That's the reality of it.
That's not knocking Mic or Chris.
It's not. And if you take it that way,
that's your problem. Because I always give respect.
I always, always make sure that I show respect to people and not
just people that came before me. That's how I'm built like I'm
not mad what happened. I moved on.
I'm flourishing, I'm Brazilian, let's go.
I don't need WFAN to do content and they don't need me,
evidently because they said get out so good.
This isn't all you know, BT still pissed.
You know, I haven't projected that at all.
I really haven't. Anytime it's come up, not every
name comes up, but when a certain name comes up, I know
Morash's name came up the other day on the show.
I'm like, I love Sean. I'm genuinely happy for Sean.
He's a talented, funny, nutty buttball who doesn't take
himself too seriously. You know, I worked with Tiki for
10 years. He's a good guy.
Got nothing bad to say about Tik Evans.
I say this with a smile. Weird good, good way, good way
weird. Great guy, knows his shit, love
sports. Like if that's the only show in
town, they're all rock stars. And some of them are anyway.
So it was an interesting thing that Joe said.
And it's Joe's opinion and I'm not here to say it's wrong.
I'm just giving you my opinion and I am offering conjecture,
conjecture and contextualization based on my skin in the game all
these years being at the other station and then being at FAN
and listening to the station literally from day one, you
know, so you know, if you're going to be the best player of
all time and. You're going to be a rock star.
And you're going to have the superhero persona.
Don't you think you had a kind of go against everybody to
really have that tag? I do.
But now you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be victimized when
you're born. In a lot of ways, those guys
were lucky. You don't think about it now.
He could also now. This one going to defend some.
Of those guys too, there were other shows early.
Stages of. WFAN that just didn't work out.
They got rid of them, you know, and the ones who became legends,
they did work and you trusted them and you listen to them and
you took on and they took on a larger than life persona.
I think the hardest thing now is to have a larger than life
persona if you really think about it besides Stephen A
McAfee. Obviously like Charles Barkley
and. Jack, but they're former
players. So I mean, so is McAfee too.
It's just different. It's different, you know, I
think that I just think it's different.
I don't. Think it's better.
I don't think it's worse. I think in a lot of ways too,
here's the difference. Like, you know, I remember I was
really frustrated when. I was trying to break into.
The business because this is in the in the late 90s and I
remember I don't know if I told the story.
I'm not going to get too deep into no, it won't be a short
story long. It will be a short story short,
I promise, because I want to get some reactions.
Obviously J Rod pour through those get some good stuff on on
with Joe And I remember I sent the a letter to every sports
radio station in the country. This is how you had to do it.
You know, when you were trying to trying to get in.
Now I didn't go to Syracuse. I didn't have any connections.
I didn't need them. I had a dream and I had a work
ethic and I also didn't have any practical experience because I
didn't do internships at Maris because I played baseball.
I couldn't even write for the school newspaper.
I didn't have time, right? So anyway, I'm not looking for
pity. My my path was hard.
And I remember sitting in my parents basement looking at a
website called Rick Scott. Rick Scott was an old, it was
like a website that it was aggregated.
I, I don't even know what he was like.
What's the word I'm looking for? Like one of these sage voices
that basically brought everything together for the
sports radio world. And I was able to find a link to
every sports radio station and I sent the letter barely.
I didn't even have a resume, so I was just basically making
stuff up. I did a little demo in my
basement, Sounded awful. Sent it to him, sent it to every
station in the country, A-Z, Arkansas, Alabama, you name it
sent. I got like two or three back,
both rejections. One was from ATV station in
Denver. I remember getting excited when
it came, even though it was a rejection letter when it came to
my parents house and I WJ God it wasn't WG.
Yeah, well it would have been West of the of the Mississippi,
so it would have been K whatever it was there.
And like, I was so excited seeing the call letters on the
envelope, like it actually gave me fuel.
I'm like, wow, they actually wrote me back even though I got
nicely rejected. And and that's how you kind of
had to do it back then. And it's not a pity party.
I'm not even, I'm not even trying to get into my whole
story. The point is that's how you had
to do it back then. The way you do it now is, you
know, you don't even have to study in college.
That's fine. You look into a camera, this
little thing, or you open up your phone and you do something.
By the way, we're getting these up on the digital store as well
soon. And then you get it out there
and people either react to it or they don't.
And if you get traction, you make money.
If you don't, you don't. So it's easier to permeate the
business. Now it's simple.
I mean, anybody could say that they have a podcast, anybody in
the world, but but it's harder to be relevant.
It's harder to stand out. And back then, conversely, it
was the exact opposite when I was coming up.
It was so much harder to breakthrough, so much harder to
breakthrough. Like the like, that's why the
greatest Panther so unique, he never had to leave, you know,
never had to leave the metro, the metropolitan area,
tri-state, tri-state area, God bless them.
Lucky now I'm happy that I did because I think it gave me I'm
not saying Don doesn't have that at all, but it gave me like a
balance for me like a a well roundedness that I that I, that
I think is, is really good for this and has served me well.
You know, working in Pennsylvania and going to
Detroit and going to San Francisco and all these things I
did whatever. So while it was hard, arduous, I
was pissed, poor, frustrating at times getting, you know, not,
not not like climbing the way I thought that I should.
I think it actually made me better at the end of the day.
But now you can, you can get your stuff in front of you can
you can record something, send it to McAfee or one of his
producers He can play it on Wow, this, this is pretty good shit.
Put it on the McAfee show. 30 seconds you can you go from 312,
you know, followers on X2, suddenly you got 77,000.
If it's good enough, like that doesn't exist.
But with me and and my generation, it was harder to get
in. But once you got in, if you were
at least somewhat competent, you did become a rock star.
Whether it was, you know, Scott Clark doing TV.
I love Scott. I got funny story with Clark.
I might say that is second with Scott Clark, J Rod, I'm I would
say that in a second. It's funny, you know, guys like
Scott where you watch the 11:00 news like this guy's a rock star
making over $1,000,000. They're all getting paid.
Len Berman, Warner Wolf rock stars, Mike and Chris Rock star,
I miss in the morning rock star. There's guys who are really,
really good and have created great.
Legacies on the. Radio now, but it is a little
different. So that's my interpretation of
what Joe said very quickly on the Scott Clark thing.
So now read this. Keep them up.
So I was again, trying to break into the industry.
Scott's at Channel 7 and my dad's friend knew some this like
the only tiny teeny rat. I didn't even get a job at ABC
because I didn't do TV too much later.
But anyway, somebody knew Scott that knew my dad.
And he's like, hey, listen, this kid, I don't know if he's any
good. I just graduated college
basically. I don't know if he's any good.
His dad's a good guy, you know, can he wants to break into the
business? Can you, can he come down?
Can he do anything for him? Scott's like, yeah, bring have
him come down. He could watch the newscast,
right? I'm like, this is unbelievable.
So I go in, I'm all suited up and I'm sitting in Scott.
I don't even know if Scott would remember this, but I do and I'm
in his office. And back then they would have
like the producer, like literally watching like the Nick
game or the Rangers and they would be charting like, all
right, you know, 5 minutes and 12 seconds into the first
quarter. I don't remember Patti
Lafontaine, if you're watching the, I don't know, whatever.
So and so scores a goal, right? Lead scores and that's what they
will look for highlights that they would use at night.
So I was there pretty early. So they go on the air and it was
Bill Beutel, Bill Beutel doing the news.
It it wasn't list show. I, I wish, I wish it was list.
It wasn't list. It was Bill Beutel, Scott Clark,
Diana Williams and somebody else.
Oh, Sam Champion doing the weather.
And they're like, oh, hey, Scott's like, hey, just sit.
And it was a big studio. Sit on the side over there.
Just, you know, be quiet. You can watch how we do.
I'm like, absolutely, Mr. Clark, you got it.
So I'm on this raised platform probably 2 feet off the air.
And then you start hearing the music.
The show's there. The news is starting.
And like, the directors are quiet on the floor quiet.
And I go to like move a little bit.
To this is a true story. I I wanted to disappear.
I wish I was dead at this moment as I adjust I'm on a couch as.
I adjust the couch of the chair. It was a couch and there's four
legs, right? One of the legs falls off of the
platform. J Rod.
And as they're getting ready, literally going like this,
you're on to. Them I'm not on TV obvious.
I'm a nobody, right? And it goes like this goes I'm.
Like what dude? I Fuck it, I.
My right. Hand hits the floor and I and I
caught it and it made a little noise.
OK, the couch now is not what's not quite like it's It's uneven
and I held myself up for a minute and 1/2.
Before they went. To either.
Weather or something? Happened and they came in.
They helped me. If I didn't, it would have
collapsed. Dude, it was.
It was. That's impressive.
Well, it was terrifying. Thank God I was.
Young I could still. Do that.
Oh my God, Yeah, that's. Let's shout out to Scott Clark.
The point is, guys like that, they just, they, they were
received differently and they were truly.
Treated. Like, you know, royalty because
there just weren't many of them and it's not a knock.
It's just the reality of the difference in the business.
BT what happened to Scotty Frill from the wheelhouse?
Ricardo Dash. We got a lot of letters BN 5 kW.
Thank you, Ricky. I love Scotty man Scotty
actually. Oh God, like how many years did
I do the wheelhouse? I think it was like O 67891011
When did I go to San Francisco? I think I 2011, maybe the
wheelhouse was like 05:00. So I did that a good six or
seven years and Scott and I were the first show, the original
show. And then we had some other Van
Custer was the moderator because good dude and me and Scotty
would just go bonkers every day and then they didn't.
Scott I think was there for two years and they didn't re up him
and then it was like Andy Gresh who who I know and I like and
Moose. It was like being Moose out of
battle one day over the toughest day.
Moose is a great guy. I'm happy to see him doing well.
And Moose was on there and then they bring I think Sal came on
once or twice he did because the story about how like an idiot, I
guess they said this out. We could do this the easy way or
the hard way. I don't really remember him.
I don't Remember Me saying that he said that I did and it
doesn't surprise me either way. I love The Wheelhouse and I love
Best and why. Scotty was there for about two
years and then they moved on and he's still doing great.
A really unique voice. He was on late nights at The Fan
and matter of fact, before The Wheelhouse, Scott was doing a
national show. Pharrell on the bench and when I
was living in Vegas is when at it's no, it's been gone for a
long time. The sports fan radio network.
All right, a lot of talented people there.
The Jim Rome was there young Jim Rome fabulous sports babe
Pharrell again, I'm just a weekend the host peon nobody and
doing updates during the week nationally and when I would fill
in for Scotty once in a while and I would get a chance to do
his night show and it was awesome man.
Like I got people calling from Seattle.
I mean it was it was a national show.
It was a big step for me. So I haven't talked to Scotty in
a while, but we had a great relationship.
Never had one beef at all. Really good guy, really unique
talent. Really good dude.
What do we got here, Robert? Robert Huertis dash S5CI.
Remember Summers, say Summers? Summers saying no UCLA
quarterbacks going to win a Super Bowl when the Cowboys
drafted Aikman in the draft. That's how long he's been
rolling with the fan. Well, yeah, I mean, we all say
crazy stuff there. I don't remember Steve saying
that, but if he did, all right, I mean, if you ever did a
history of the bad takes at that station, including me, I mean,
some of the things I said, I might actually win some of the
some of the baddest takes ever. But that's what happens, you
know? When you're talking every single
day. Lindor should only bad
right-handed. You know, Zach's going to be a
star playoffs with Zach. Timmy Boyle can spin it, you
know, I mean, you know, there's, there's been some, there's been
some really good ones too, but there's been some bad ones
there. Charlie F 6675.
Charlie, what's going on, man? Great show.
BT an additional point of view point, I think radio and TV is
compelled to use former pro athletes along with TV and
radio. Yeah.
Watering down things further a little bit.
That's true. So like, that's why.
Listen, that's one of the reasons why Boomer's very
unique. Boomer's one of the first guys
to do it. I saw the other day that Boomer
passed. I miss longest tenured morning
show on the Fan and maybe ever, but definitely on the Fan.
Yeah. Like back then, it was like when
when Boomer was doing that. And I remember hearing him on
with Chris doing the pics back in the day, radio and Boomer
made the easy transition. You know, Tiki later did it as
well. You know, Bart Scott does it.
You know, I mean, every show that you look at, it's basically
athletes. So they already have that name
and they already have that recognition, that value.
So that that's another reason, I'm not saying it makes the
product better or worse, but it definitely takes away
opportunities for, you know, not athletes to become stars.
I mean you. Think.
About that, it's a good point and an absolutely good point
there. You know, it was I, I wonder if
Joe did. I don't know if Joe circle back.
I don't, but Joe doesn't care. I don't think that Joe cares
enough to to circle back. Not that he needs to clarify
anything. I wonder now I'm not listening
to it. I haven't heard it.
I'm sure they got to be talking about this on WFAN.
They have to be. I'm curious what some of their
takes would be. You heard my take, all right.
My take is I think that Joe's right.
WWFN is never going to be the. Same, but I also think that
that's a product of less about WFAN not knowing how to do
things. Although of course I would have
kept beating Sal on the air. I've said that a million times.
I think they messed up, but whatever.
I think it's more really just the the ever evolving world.
I mean, think about this. There was a point, man.
I remember when I was in college, during one summer, I
did construction. It was like up on 179th St.
I would drive in every day from Brooklyn.
I would work my ass off, dude. And I was in demo and it was
awesome. I was just J Rod.
I was just smashing walls down. I had the, oh, it was fun.
I was practicing my baseball swing, but working, you know,
doing stuff on the roof with the shirt off.
Rocking the. Tan, I mean, the big fat gold
chain. Those were the days, I love to
say, feeling good. And and I remember I get maybe
1/2 hour, maybe even an hour. But I would go to my car during
lunch and I would listen to the sweater and the schmooze.
And you know, Russ, Russ has become a good buddy of mine.
I haven't seen him in a couple of months, but I see Russ.
I have number one. I've coached with Russ.
I've coached his grandkids in every sport.
Yeah, isn't that nuts? And he said he's there all the
time. They played soccer together.
I've Co this is just rec though. I've coached his his grandson in
rec rec baseball. So I see him all the time.
And I used to go into the car and, you know, have my my
thermos, my water, my big sandwich.
And I would listen to listen to those guys.
Like I couldn't wait to hear the 2020 update.
You know, whether it was AC, whether it was Huesler, whether
it was Mank, Of course, My God, Mank shout.
I see. I'll see Mink tomorrow as we fly
out to California for the Johnnies.
Let's go. I'm pumped up to that man.
And the twenty 20s were such a staple.
You know that that's some evidence there.
I mean obvious evidence, but how much it's changed like the
people now WFAN is really is really solely just and all
stations just a form of entertainment.
You connect like you connected to certain people and you want
to be entertained and you want to you want to hear your guys
and gals talk about sports, right?
But back then, and This is why I say that the relevance has been
stripped away a little bit because back then, you know,
and, and in addition to the revenue, which is irrefutable,
but it's also, it was also really, it was like a, a source
where. You had.
To go to find out what was happening.
Yeah. Yeah.
Pat Riley's doing a press conference today.
George Steinbrenner is talking about the Yankees.
I got to listen because there's no phone to bust out and get it
in real time. So you have to listen, you know,
and you know, again, that's why I it's not, it's not arrogance
or or cockiness or a lack of respect.
You know, I really believe that there's a lot of us.
If we were in that spot back then, we would have identities
and we would have, you know, resumes and bank accounts and
legacies. Really like a lot of those guys.
I don't believe that I really do.
Some people going to take issue with that and and I don't say
disrespectfully. So as long as you've heard the
the start of this show, I am completely fond with what I've
said. Yeah.
No, I mean, I think it's totally fair and like, I think like.
You say like the great point of all this is just an idea of
oversaturation. I think an oversaturation in
every market of sports media, of media in general, of people
showing themselves off on the Internet.
I just think the mass amount of information we're.
Being fed has. Diminished the idea of a legacy
just because there's too much to keep track of.
Along with this, I think it's much more of a personal angle.
When you do a show like this, or a show where you do just shorts
off the iPhone, taking the video of your face, I think that gives
you much more of a chance to build yourself as a true
personality than the radio stations do.
I think that's the big differences nowadays.
You just take a selfie video on your phone.
You know, you're doing so much more for your own personal
brand, for sure. It's interesting.
Yeah. Well, I mean, think yeah.
No, I mean, think about the the only thing that I really miss is
the callers. That's the only thing that I
missed there. Certainly don't miss the
commute. You know, don't don't miss.
I mean, the corporate check was nice too.
It's a pretty good one. But we're Justin.
You know, I miss, I miss parts of the show with Sal and you
know, the energy there. You know, I, I, but the callers
are to me that the one thing that I can't replicate, that I
haven't replicated yet. Like that's the one thing
there's, there's, there's an urgency, there's a different
connection. There's, there's a deeper dive
there. And that's why we're really
trying to and I told you guys when we first launched this,
that Kohl's would be probably the last thing to come.
The first thing was I got to clean up the camera and I've got
to kind of fix things with the. The logo, which I still got, I'm
not going to get into that. We can still got things coming,
whatever, but and then the digital store is going to come
and then just start rolling out the interviews, which I've
already started to do. We were, you know, Stephen A
told me to circle back today, which I did.
He's still jacked up from the surgery.
So and now I've got to travel with Saint John.
So it could be early next week with Stephen A, but he's coming
on, You know, had Michael had Don had Sal, Obviously Francesa
said he would come on not to talk about FAN, but you know,
talk about sports, and I'd love to do that with Mike and, you
know, had patino on, you know, want to get boonie on just
things I just want to do here, talk to Alex.
He's going to come out as well. So those things I could still do
and I love the long form conversation stuff, but the
calls that's that is the thing that I that I do miss, and
that's a built in advantage that WFAN will always have, you know,
at least for now, like the mass volume that immediate that like
that visceral. All right, right.
You know, Jets flues. What happened to the Giants?
Giants hire. Horrible.
How'd you draft this guy? Oh, my God.
Judge dropping a pop up in the World Series.
Fire Cashman fire Boom meant he had a shit year.
You know, it's that Maniah. What happened to you?
Whatever it might be. Bang.
This is the immediacy of that. That's a real thing.
Yeah, and that's a good thing. But other than that, we good big
time. And you know what?
Like whenever we get those callers.
Running, you know, soon, whenever that may be.
I know that's going to just be awesome like it's going to be
obviously so much fun huge for old fronts and also oh wait,
let's see any updates on chat polls?
Still got to figure that one out.
I'll figure that one out for tomorrow's episode.
Well, why did you? I mean what you know.
Why did you need a? Text to to remind you about
that. I thought that was that was part
of the deal. I thought you were doing some
homework on that over the weekend.
J Rod. Hey, you know what?
My dog ate the homework. What happened to?
How was the? Weekend, by the way, anything
good? You can chill nothing.
I didn't man, I like. Went to bed on Friday, I went to
bed Friday, Saturday when I saw my buddy from college.
He I haven't seen him in a while.
He just moved to Philly, so he came through.
We chilled a little bit, but I just I was working.
I was working through the weekend.
All right, all right, Yeah, I'm going to give you a little work
here. What is?
What does that? Handle say fook.
We'll say fook, fook your couch. Fook your couch.
It's like. Saying judge could definitely.
Play in the 40s? No problem.
But take a player for. The 1940s, could he still play
now? Yeah.
I mean, and we'll never really know the answer.
Like, do I think, do, do I think there's a lot of examples here?
Do I think that if Jack Nicholas was coming up today just to take
golf, right? Or, or Bobby Jones today or
Sammy Sneed today and they've got access to, you know, instead
of using that two piece ball that went 250 yards, that's on a
good day, you know, you're using these souped up balls and you,
you, you, you know, you're basically rendering these 8000
yard courses. You're making them munis where
you're going over trees and cutting corners.
And I mean these guys hitting seven irons more 7 irons, one
9200. It's insane.
Do I think that if more than that, I think if Jack, do I
think that if Jack had the access to the equipment and the
training and, you know, to keep his body in shape instead of
banging back heaters and beers and whatever else he was
drinking And Arnie, yeah, I think they'd hit the ball as far
as Tiger and some of them, obviously Tiger back in the day,
you know, maybe not quite as far as Bryson because he's a little
different when he connects and a few others like that.
But they don't be striping at 3:20 off the team because that's
what everybody does. I mean, so, you know, it's not
as easy to say that the you can't.
I don't know that it applies all the time.
Like today's superstars would have dominated back then, and
the stars back then would have been, you know, average menial
contributors. Now, I don't think you could say
that because there's way too many variables.
It's an interesting conversation for sure.
But I think the one part that you have to hone in on is the
the lack of competition, right? The lack of seeking your time.
All right, so you get in the car.
Think about what you do when you in the car.
Now you get in the car and depending upon like even if
you're at a traffic light, you know, you might check a message.
Whatever you get in the car. Are you streaming music?
Are you streaming? Are you streaming this show?
Are you are you, you know, streaming another show?
Like what are you doing? I mean you are you listening to
an audio book? I could tell you that, you know,
you, you might be listening to WFAN because the ratings are
still really good and it's still WFAN.
It's got a lot of respect, it's got a lot of cache, but there's
seven options. There's twelve options, There's
fifteen options. Back in the day now, getting
your car in 1989, getting your car in 1993, What are you doing?
You're putting on WFAN or Z100. That's it.
So it doesn't mean that the guys back then were better.
I'm sorry, it just doesn't, it means that they capitalized and
to their credit, to their credit, cuz there were a lot of,
a lot of people who had a chance early that just didn't get the
job done. Didn't sound right, didn't look
right. The, the chemistry between two
hosts wasn't good. They made changes, you know, so
all the credit into the, to the in the world, to those, to those
men and women that did emerge from the early days of the
station. But to think that it's easier
now to be, to have that, that that persona is, it's a fallacy.
It's the complete opposite. It's the complete opposite.
It's not, it's not even close. It's just harder.
It's I'd say, I think it's harder to do anything.
Not if you think about like now think about, let's think about
this, all right, If you are, let's say you're a kid, Let's
take an inner city because I love basketball and I love inner
city basketball, right? I can certainly take a farm in
Indiana, but I'm going to take inner city.
Let's take a kid that's growing up and he's playing, he's
playing up in Harlem, right? He's playing in Brooklyn, You
know, like like Pearl Walk, Mark Jackson, Steph, a little bit
after that, Guys like that, right?
And obviously a lot of people before him where you got this
Isaiah Thomas in Chicago, going through the schoolyards where
God forbid you could get shot in addition to playing the best
competition in the world or mean streets of Philly or, you know,
Compton. And you're just looking for game
and you're trying to avoid the gangs and you're really trying
to do the right thing and not getting involved in the drug
game and, and, and the guns and all that.
And you just try to ball right. And the only thing that you had
to really compete with aside from the violence and and the
criminality aspect of it, which is unfortunate.
Well, from a basketball point of view, all you had to deal with
was the players in the United States.
OK, watching basketball when I was a kid, there were no
foreigners. Like there was like one or two
that Now that little shrimp, oh, where's he from?
Is he German or where's that guy from?
You know, all these guys. You knew him all from college
because you saw him play 3-4 years and it was all Americans.
Right now you've got it's a global game.
And I'm not knocking it. I'm just telling it's harder.
So now that kid who is really trying to do the same thing, you
know, avoiding the violence and avoiding and by the way, you
could be affluent as well. I'm just, I'm just painting the
imagery of really trying to rise from the ashes, right?
So you can, you could be, you know, scrapping on the
playgrounds or really more AAU now, but in Chicago or here or
Philly or Compton or wherever, right?
You know, Houston, TX, Dallas, whatever it might be.
And you could be the best, right?
And guess what? Now all of a sudden, the whole
you're going against the whole world, that's just basketball.
Think about what I opened the show with last night.
Think about what I opened the show, you know, last night.
The WBC, Japan, phenomenal, Dominican Republic, phenomenal,
Puerto Rico, phenomenal, Venezuela, good Italy.
I mean, I don't know how they still play Italy good.
You know, like look at our our American players for every Bryce
and every arid judge and every Whit and all those young studs,
right? The thing about the world that
you're trying to fend off to make it not only to the majors,
which is, you know, .1 of 1% just to get a college
scholarship. So everything is harder now.
I really believe that. I think everything is tougher
now. If you want to be a musician,
guess what? You could record a song.
Good luck to you. You know, you can make it
organic rap. You can be.
You can bang the violin.
You can hammer the drum. Not bang the violin, but play
the violin, hammer the guitar, whatever you're doing.
You know, music, dude. Alright, get it out there.
Fantastic. You can get it out there.
You ain't making a dime. You ain't making a dime.
That's right, you're not making a dime.
And there's. Also all these other people
doing the same thing that you're trying to distinguish yourself
more than so as I button all the time.
If you're a golfer, you know, growing up, you know, I meant
you like this way before me. I'll be like Jack and Arnie.
You know, growing up it was pretty much an American game.
It was obviously born in Scotland and Ireland was very,
very big. You know, now like, you know, of
course, South Africa going back to Gary Player back in the day
and Ernie Els, like South African has a very great golfing
imprint. But now it's, it's all over the
world. I mean, what Tiger Woods did for
the game of golf, not only for minorities, but for the world
right now to be a golfer, you're not just fending off the dude 5
states away that you're trying to beat, you know, for the
qualifier for some amateur event, you got to fend off so
and so in Japan and everywhere, Australia, New Zealand,
everywhere. So it's a lot harder, I think.
I think in a lot of ways, you know, what Joe said is true.
I, I agree with most of it. I just thought there was
interesting context for somebody who was there and who grew up
listening to the fan. You know what I'm saying?
A job, Joe J Rod, you know what I mean?
No big time, big time. I feel like great.
Expert fan analysis and yeah, I mean, it couldn't, it couldn't
be any truer. And like you said, it's not at
the fault of the fan. It's just times are changing.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because I do think, let's get that quote.
I'm gonna start. Wrapping things up, get get the
quote up there again and then get me up the a few good texts
about this. OK, one thing I don't want to
do, and I'm sure some people do this keep that up is because,
and I see it in the comments like one game I don't play.
I just I'm not interested. I've never gotten into radio
beefs. I do what I do, and I respect
what others do. Yeah, see, I yeah, I hate to say
it, that's most of the comments. I'm.
Looking at right here, well, I'm not going to put any of those
up. That's not what I'm trying to do
here, guys. I'm not about.
That you know, and if you notice where some of the comments,
because I do react to a lot of the comments on unleash on the
on the page there for the videos.
And sometimes, you know, you take shots at people and I
always say, Hey, keep it above board.
You know, I, I know those guys. I don't profess profess to be
best friends with all them, but I know them all and you know, I
had good relationships with, you know, fair, good enough.
And I just I'm not going to get into that.
So if it's about somebody and you're taking a shot at
somebody, I'm not doing that. And if you do it on on the
YouTube page, I guess I can't prevent you from doing it.
Same with Instagram, but I don't lean into it.
I don't feed it. I'm worried about me.
All right, I'm worried about me. I'm worried about this channel.
I'm worried about us. Jim Rome, Jim Rome, be a great
convo here with BTI can probably get.
I don't know if Rome would do it.
I know, Jim, you can get that down.
I know him a little bit. I saw him at a couple of Super
Bowls. Always treated me well.
Good guy. But I should still have his
number. Yeah.
I mean, maybe the the the Phuk, your your couch.
Is that sort of a recency bias because you believe he can go
back and be a star back then, But some of those older guys are
having a real tough time adjusting to the newer mediums.
No, no. What I'm saying is no, no, like
again, do I? What I mean is now I think I've
done well, OK. I've done well financially and
I've done well. Perceptually.
And I do believe that I'm respected.
I do. I know a lot of people don't
like my style, but I do believe that I have carved out a
respected existence in the world of sports talk.
I firmly believe that. So what I what I mean by some of
us being able if like if we were transported back then, we would
have had an easier chance to be a star.
I mean the persona, you know, because there was just weren't
other people to fend off. It's just the reality of it,
man. Now some people that are having
a rough time transitioning that are older to the new.
Medium. I mean, I can't really speak.
I'm not saying I'm not 25 years old.
I mean, so I, I guess I'm, I'm more of the older side than the
younger side. And this, this is, I don't want
to say it's easy because I'm not taking it for granted, but it
was a very seamless transition. I can't speak to that.
Like if you if you don't take
the time to learn this, if you just denounced the new medium,
you're going to die. You're going to die death.
So like you're not going to nobody's going to watch you.
Like you've got to be able to evolve there.
So I don't really know what you meant by that, but either way, I
appreciate it. And the under score 516 radio
and the RSNS are dying yeah, the regional sport network sports
networks are is there any way they end up merging into one
realistically or basically WFN and yes, become the same thing
when then K yeah, they only booth to the Yankees.
You get your announcers for 162 in the playoffs.
I don't know the answer to that. Listen, I I got to I got to
stand up for the for S&Y here Now, obviously I'm a Yankee fan.
I love it. I love watching.
You know, I love Ki, love the announcers or somebody I don't
think are great, but some I I love.
But I think SOY does an outstanding.
Job I really. Do there's just not a lot on
during the day with yes, I'm not watching Nets basketball not
interested. You know, when they get good,
I'll check in on them. I'm not watching them now, you
know, and some of the other content just not interested in
on yes, SNY doesn't. That's how I end my nights.
Like I usually end up watching politics and watching sports
night. By the way, I'm going to have
Nikki Ladarullo on the show, big St.
John's fan and you know, she's younger and she's a massive St.
John's fan and she was she, she covers the Big East.
So I've seen her a lot. You know, she came up to
Providence last year for St. John's.
We're trying to work something out.
We were texting earlier and we're going to get on.
I've got to see you now. I'm, I'm travelling to
California and we're going to leave tomorrow night.
So I got to see what's going on. So I, she doesn't know if she's
going out West yet, but we will try to get her on the channel
here. She's up for it.
It's going to make it happen. But S&Y does a really good job.
And you know, I worked at S&Y, they don't pay well at all back
then. They just don't, you know, I
don't know if it's changed and it's not my job to judge, but I
just know back then they did not pay at all, right.
But they do a really good job. Like they.
Really bring you. Like when I was young, MSG
sports desk, like Bob Page and Crispino was on there.
God, who else was it? Like that was the way I got like
my Nick highlights the Rangers, you know, Yankees, like S&Y
brings. I love that.
And that's how they differentiate themselves between
I I think certainly, yes. I mean, I really, truly enjoy
SNYI. Really do you know, I think that
they do a good job. I remember texting Sal when I
found out we're going to work together.
I'm like, dude, I really like you on baseball night New York.
I really do do a good job. I watch it less now because my
days are different, but I finish up with Sports Night, you know,
and I've known Eamon. Eamon does a good job and I love
JJJJ was next to me when Princess almost killed me and
drove me with the golf ball. So JJ is a lunatic, you know, I
think Nicki's great. Who else is on there?
I'm not trying to omit anybody, but they do a good job.
They bring you Saint John's, they bring you the Mets, they
bring you the Yankees, they give you the Knicks, they give you
The Jets, they give you the Giants.
Connor's really good. You know, The Jets coverage is
great. I love it.
So I think they're really doing a good job.
How about this at Zeke G76787681?
What up there, Zeke? So, BT would you ever agree to
name to would you ever agree to your name not being mentioned on
the show similar to how FAN treated Big Mac?
Yeah, I honestly I could. Sit here and say.
No, I would never put up with that.
That's bullshit. Listen, C Mac had to do it.
He had to do it because he that's his chance to to jump
into the mix, man, that that's a seat at the big boy table.
I get it. I really do.
You know, carton's the star and and that's the way it goes.
So I remember that was different because when I was with Stephen
A, it was called the Stephen A Smith show.
But and BT and he would always start to show my right hand man
BT like we were tied as hell and we were boys and and our show
was phenomenal. I always said, yeah, whatever
doesn't mean anything. I always say that's the biggest
mistake that 1050 ever made, breaking us up, really, and not
making it more of a yeah, you could put him to be the star.
I know I I got it. But give me a little bill in
here now. Yeah, I've got to put myself
back in those shoes, like C Max shoes, right?
He's younger, he's talented. I like C Mac Chris, a good dude,
very good dude. I'm happy for him.
And I text him. That when he got the job.
Same with Sean, same with those guys, right?
And if like if I'm if I'm C Mac and I'm doing overnights and I'm
trying to get on the fan and it's I think it's called the
carton show. I'm honestly, I'm not trying to
be jerk. I honestly don't know.
I think it's called, I think it's called the Carton show with
C Mac. I think whatever it is, you
know, it's not like Craig and C Mack or the you got, you got to
do what you got to do to get in the door, man.
And it's easy to be all brazen and tough.
Oh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't know. I would take what I could get.
Like that's just the honest answer.
You think like I could sit here and say and lie and say, Oh, I
used to knock on management's door and say, how come it's not
Stephen A and BT? Honestly, because I was happy to
have a job. I was making good money and I
was, I was, I was carving out a career.
That's why, that's why you do it.
So, you know, I don't know if that's the perfect answer, but
I, I understand why Chris did what he did.
And I probably would have done the same thing now, you know, I
mean, did I in hindsight, did I love?
I didn't really bother me. Like maybe a little eagle play
you want to talk about like, which name is first, like Tiki
and Tierney? I mean, you know, in my mind it
should have been BT and Tiki. Whatever.
I didn't really care. You know, BT and Sal.
I mean, if they would have been like, it's Sal and BTI would
have been like, not that I really would have cared, but
only because I was there. Like, you know it, It doesn't.
Are you on the air, man? Like is your name in the show
and are you getting paid? And more importantly for Chris,
are you getting a chance to expand how many people hear you
and you do what you got to do for your family?
Dude, you know the by the way, the day.
Here's the other thing too. The days of demanding I want
this. I need this new contract.
Those days are over. They're not even.
Negotiations. Hey, let me tell you what
happens at basically, basically at at these places.
All right. Now, I'm sure it's different for
Boomer, probably a little different for GL for most of us,
right. It was here's the contract
offer. Take it or leave it.
Honestly, there's there's not even any negotiation.
So at that point I'm like, I don't even need it.
I don't need an agent anymore for this.
Why am I going to pay an agent a percentage when it's basically
hair? This is what we we want you.
We think you're good and we want to put you in the in in the mid
days. But you know, you were making
this at the network and you know, they, they actually did
the right thing. And you know, I was making very,
very good money for a midday host.
I know that for a fact, but that's probably one of the
reasons why I'm gone too much. Admit that guy.
But there was no real negotiation.
You know, a little tick here, an extra week of vacation, that's
it. That's radio now.
Whereas when I am negotiating
our sponsorship with Sullivan for pain, it's like our first
sponsor. We've got more coming.
That's why Sullivan will always be #1 I mean, they jumped into
YouTube, they jumped into Unleashed and they said, I
believe in you. Here's X amount of money.
And it wasn't, you know, we had to negotiate that.
So it is different whether your name's on the show or whether
you, you know, you want this per year.
But they're offering this. The days of demanding anything,
it's just over, trust me. On on WFAN, I'm not saying like.
For some of these big. TV shows and other outlets.
It's about conventional terrestrial radio.
You're not demanding anything, you just not.
And if you are, you ain't gonna be around.
Let's see at Sean B50D until you guys get a hard phone line.
Why not use Discord? It's free, calls are clear, no
drops and a really good service. Just a thought.
Let's get on that buddy. You can't.
You can't get on me with this, with this behind the scenes
mumbo jumbo. What Discord?
I don't even know what that is. I know what it means Discord but
what does he mean this cord? No discord.
It's like it's similar to this. Platform.
Oh, this and Skype. Oh, there you go.
Yeah. Well, then we'll figure it out.
You know the new way we're going to.
Get some calls here. Let's just let's just plug this
cord into the wall, see if it works.
It's the Discord phone line which drives this.
Get out of here, right? But.
Discord get on that J Rod, let's go keep these texts pumping I.
Know people love. This stuff.
Let's go. All right, this is all.
This would be awesome. Let me see here.
Hold on at Rod Power 78. All right, I will continue to
pound the table. For S&Y to do an outdoor show
with BT and Sal and JJ, the comedy would be off the charts,
especially with the prospects of Sal being scared.
Shit. Why would he be scared?
I don't know. Who knows?
In the outdoors, maybe he's just.
Outdoors, like they're saying, like if you guys did like a man.
Versus wild type. Show you Sal and JJ Oh an
outdoor show. Show an outdoor.
Yeah, yeah. What do you want us to do?
Go wrestle. Bears and and try to tie
alligator What? Are we outdoors show?
I mean, I would be scared too with that.
And you know, all the. So when I was shooting that man
versus bear show on Discovery, I was terrified.
I'll never forget now they were Hollywood bears for whatever
that means. Oh, no, they're tame.
They're Hollywood bears. I'm just like, oh, Kylie, OK,
I'm great. And I remember when we had to
shoot the promo that was the host, all right, along with with
my other guy. He was like the behavioral
biologist for bears. What a Casey.
What a wild man. He was great.
Casey, shout out, bro. Love you.
We had so much fun, dude. My God, we're in Utah shooting
the show for I was there about a month in a hotel.
It was wild and what a great experience.
Anyway, when we had to shoot the.
Promos like because. You would see this on Discovery
coming up this week on Man versus Bear.
There were times where I actually had to stand.
There. And say.
Coming up, I mean, I wouldn't say it like that, the boys guy
would, but I would be there and I'd say coming up on this, you
know, coming up next on Man versus Bear, Freaking Bear would
be behind me. Yes.
Not in a cage, dude. Not in a cage.
And they had people. They had people on set with
rifles in case something happened.
Who fucking unnerving it is to have to look.
Into a camera. And with a bear behind you, I
know that you got rifles. I know you're not going to miss
because it's basically like the National Guard, whatever the
heck they were. Wow, no, that, I mean, that's
terrifying. A.
Live. Bear in the flesh.
I was never so scared in my life dude.
Never. I mean, one thing goes wrong and
Jay, I just kept going like this like I was trying to.
You can actually. Hear him making these noises?
And I don't mean he was 30 feet behind me.
He was 1012 feet behind me and it was a big real bear.
I got funny story for you really quick aside and get some more
texts up there about what we're talking about.
I was in, so I shot, let's see, I was still doing the show with
Tiki. So we're doing the national
show. I was working so hard.
That was that was awesome. And I'm shooting.
I'm on set like 10 hours a day. I mean, you think it's easy, but
it's cut after cut after cut after cut after cut after take,
after take after take. And we're up there like we had
to be in our trailers. I remember we had a trailer.
It said have my name. It said, it said BT on it with
the star. I'm like, Oh yeah, boy, we made
it. We made it right.
And I remember we had an off day.
I'm such an idiot, man. So I I really, yeah, I just
laughed at the stuff that I did. So I'm still doing the show with
the CBS was doing the national show with tiki and TV component.
So a little tricky to get out and just say, hey, I'm going to
Utah for a month, which I did. Can I, you know, take a week's
vacation and still piece together and do some shows.
They were awesome. Like Eric Spitz who run Serious
Now and journey and all my bosses might.
I had an agent back then like that'll work really hard.
So anyway, again, Long story short, so I'm driving from where
the hell were we were, We weren't in Provo, we were in
heat. It's called Eber I think the H
sounds like an EHEBER Eber, Utah.
And they got me ATV station to go and do the show with tiki
everyday in Salt Lake City. So I'm driving, I'm on the air
shooting. I'm on there 4:00 in the
morning. Cannot complain.
It was awesome doing the show man versus bear going back to
the hotel, changing, taking a shower, getting in my car.
Now, of course, I have to rent a white convertible Mustang like a
complete like a cloud. What the hell?
I thought I was like the 80s, like the Ginzo from Brooklyn,
like I I got a so I so I have the I have a like I'm treating
myself. I'm making good money doing the
show man. Not life changing money, but
good money. I'm getting myself a freaking
white drop top five O and I did and I had it for a month, right,
and I'm driving, so I do and I'm driving to Salt Lake back in the
top down mountains. Absolutely gorgeous man.
So one day we we have off this I I said I've never been so scared
when the bear was behind me. This is the other time.
I I really don't think I've ever been as I I honestly thought I
didn't know what was going to happen.
True. This is a true story.
So I've got I got the IT was like a Wednesday that it was a
dark day. I'm like, I'm going for a ride
and my wife came to visit me for like a week.
Kids were too young, like a week, but she wasn't there yet.
So I'm like, I have an off day. I'm like, I don't think playing
golf, whatever, I'm just going for a ride and I drove up this
massive mountain. Take my shirt off I'm driving.
I got the stones playing rag top right.
I'm going up the mountain. I'm going high, man.
I think it was like I made I might those of you who hike,
don't hold me to the number. Just trust me.
It was really high and it it it really high.
And as I'm driving like this is awesome, man, I'm looking
around. This is phenomenal.
My God is so look at God's country.
Look how high we are. I get to the top and I'm like,
wait, wait a second, I got. I got to get down.
How am I going to get down? Oh my gosh, how am I going to
get down? And when I tell you that hand to
Bible, it was the the width of the road was there wasn't a lot
of. Extra room.
All right, now I started getting a little afraid of heights.
This was the final like you are officially scared of heights,
buddy. I remember when we went zip zip
lining on our honeymoon in Costa Rica.
I wasn't I'm like, this is great.
I didn't really as I got and that was in 2010 around the mid
20s. I'm 2015, so a little nervous at
heights. Anyway, I'm looking down now.
The not only is it narrow, Jared, when I tell you it's one
way. Oh.
My gosh, dude. There's barely enough room for
two cars. God.
Dude, dude, dude, I'm actually getting, I'm getting, I'm
getting anxiety thinking about this.
Now I'm actually. Getting nervous thinking about
this now so as much as I'm enjoying the ride, I get to the
top. I'm like God, but and I'm like.
Wait, I'm thinking there's going to be like AI don't know what
I'm thinking is going to be up there like a parking lot where I
could do AK turn and just come down.
I'm freaking the fuck out, man. I am beyond terrified.
I'm actually praying to God. I'm praying because I look down
and it's just vast. Wilderness.
It's I am above the tree lines by hundreds of yards.
I'm like, I don't have enough. Room.
To navigate this thing I have no service.
I was going to call the park. Ranger or a.
Helicopter. I really didn't know that.
I'm like, I now I now now this is where I really got scared.
I'm like, all right, dude. And I I oh man, I'm really
getting anxiety thinking about this.
I'm like, what if a wild animal runs at me and I fall off the.
Mountain. Oh my gosh, this is what I'm
thinking about when I'm talking. To the mountain like I am all
we're. Talking about is my children.
Oh man, I am praying. I am praying to my Maker.
I am. Praying and because I'm I'm
deathly scared to stand near the ledge I'm on my knees or door.
I was paralyzed with fear. I could not move like call the
cell, call, call, call the park Ranger, no.
Service. As I said, I I'm like, you got
to get the fuck out of you. Just you have.
You have to get out of here. So I turn the car and as I'm
doing this, I slowly do it. And now so I give enough room
for another car to come through. Yeah, OK, going up was the easy
part. Reversing.
The car to come down. Was tricky, actually coming down
was the worst part. I mean, I'm sure the worst,
right? I'm.
Sitting there, I I. Was crying like I'm crying.
To myself, I'm. Like I really then I'm like,
because I'm saying to myself, what if like a a moose, not a
moose, moose all the way up there.
Moose is they're terrified. What?
If a bear really. Like a werewolf and a werewolf
coyote or something runs at me. I got nowhere to go and like,
and he attacks me and I fall or if I try to walk away and I
fall, I'm, I'm, I'm thousands of feet.
I'm dead and I don't think anybody would find me right.
All I'm thinking is my kids and so.
Oh. My God, I'm actually a good.
Nervous. Now think about.
So finally I turn the car to them and I'm holding the
steering wheel like this. And I see now there's enough
room for the car to get. I'm like, somebody please come.
Just somebody, please come. Somebody has to come.
And then I see a car. 22 old guys.
They were old, right? When I say old, I don't like in
their 70s. They weren't like lights.
They were like 75 seconds. Yeah, just driving slow,
laughing, talking. One guy's holding the cigar.
I look at myself. Alright, I go.
You got fucking. Man up, man.
You got you can't be a wuss like if me two dudes who are then
again, if I. Was 80.
I don't. Think I'd care as much about?
Dying, Yeah, maybe that's not, that's not how I would want to
go, but I'm like. If these guys.
Are doing it you better figure out a way to get down this
mountain bro and because they were in front of me I felt like
I could go really really slow I I finally.
Got that and when I got to the base they.
Were at the base. Was like a little railing where
I knew I was now safe. I got down, I pulled now I
actually got out of my out of out of the car on normal flat
ground and got on my knees and prayed and thank God.
I honestly thought that was beautiful.
That's great. Would you?
Say that was like. Some of the most relief.
You've ever felt in your life when you hit that base of the
mouth without question. Without question.
I don't even know what a close
second is. I mean, I mean, in hindsight,
like I could look back at the time I got in a car accident
really bad my senior year in high school.
Yeah, I remember you talking about.
Yeah, I. Wasn't driving.
And it was. Two kids, young kids doing
stupid stuff. We crashed at 108 miles an hour.
Yeah, yeah. I don't really talk about that
too much, but like, of course, you know, that's my way of
saying God had a plan for you, you know, to be dad, to be a
husband, like he spared you. I mean, by every account, should
not have walked away from that car accident.
Just should not have. The car was a mangled mess.
Literally. I can't even think about it.
That's a different level of like, wow.
But in the moment, because it happened so fast, like the car
accident, knock on wood, it's different.
It's different. It's different because I was by
myself and nobody was near me. I'm not in my element.
Like there's animals and all I hear is, oh, I hear these eagles
like these. I honestly thought it was over
man, and I couldn't even call. My wife, it has such a long.
Build up. I'm just like, Oh my God, Oh my.
God like yo, it would have been. Honestly, it would have been bad
enough if there was a guardrail. And I still had to go down.
But the fact that I had to manipulate the car now,
obviously there was enough car enough, enough space to do like
the broken K turn or the whatever the hell I did.
I mean, I can't even think about it anymore.
I got to move on. From that because.
It was, it was not good, it was not good.
Get some text up there before. It's not crazy.
Let's see. Okay, here's an interesting one.
I just checked out on his channel as well.
Yeah. Oh wait, hold on, here's a
hilarious one first. Dang dude, too many comments to
go through. BT you need to show some range
and do a spot on Ms. Now with Rachel Maddow.
Is she still on? I don't know.
I have no. Clue.
I mean, I'm not super. Hip to all of that so yeah,
yeah, yeah. Well, here's listen, it's funny
you say that. So that's from from.
Withdrew. Yeah, for on Ms. OK, so I I've
been on Fox a few times, right? My buddy Jimmy Faylor, who I've
become pretty good friends with wildly talented comedian.
Awesome, right. So it started where we got an
e-mail to the account of of Unleashed here.
And actually let me let me take a step, take a step back.
There was a point about I want to say about.
I guess it was right around COVID.
So I'm talking about 5-6 years ago, you know, Jesse Waters.
I don't know if you do from Fox. I saw a picture.
I was, you know, Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes.
So, Jesse? Waters's people.
Reached out to me, I don't know. It may have been honestly may
have been the Kaepernick stuff. I don't recall.
It was. It wasn't to talk about Yankees
free agency. Put it down.
Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah.
So I'm. Like, you know.
I'm like, I'm not going to. I know the association with Fox,
much like you know, the association with CNN and Ms.
like you know which way of course, and I'm like, I'm not
going to do that. I'm just especially the.
Sensitivity. To the topic, right, I'm not
going to do that. And I and they asked a few, they
asked me a couple times and I turned it down, right.
And when we launched this, the people of Jimmy Fallon reached
out and they're like, no, I'm sorry.
First it was Brian Kilmeade's people and great, great guy Vert
kill me, really cool producer, really big fan of the station,
big St. John's guy, good dudes, right?
So they want to do a youth sports segment and I've, I've
done some content on here and a lot of people know I coach and
all that stuff, right? Coach the kids and and I went
on, it's not about politics, right?
But obviously being on Fox, there's an association, you
know, pro Trump right wing, right?
And I don't talk about politics because I don't think it's
beneficial to me. I don't think that you guys
follow me for this reason. I know you don't.
And I don't want to hear your opinions on politics, which is
why, and this went pretty viral. I was basically telling
everybody in my field, guys, dial it down.
Nobody gives a shit who you voted for and nobody wants to
hear you take shots or or prop people up like the gratuity
shots now, not not when you talk about Aaron Boone.
And then the next shot is, is a knock, you know, at Trump or pro
Trump or at Biden or I did. What are we doing, man?
Right. So, but, but given the
sensitivity to that, you know, a lot of people who follow me and
and knew that I was going on Fox like all why?
And some people loved it pro Fox.
Some people like, how could you go on that horrible network?
I get it. I said, Hey, I'm going on youth
sports, right? And that's what I talked about.
And then Jimmy Faylor's people invited me and I've been on
twice. He's got a national radio show
that's not first to have the Super Bowl.
And I by the way, I nailed I I nailed the score to basically to
the point and to the point spread.
Yes, I won a lot of people, a lot of money.
So I was on with Jimmy there. And then they asked me back.
It went really well. We talked, we talked about
nothing about politics. So I say this because if they
invited me on, I'd go on like to me any, you know, I've said a
few times like, you know, like say if, like if.
There's a trade. That the Yankees and the Mets
could make that would benefit the Yankees and benefit the
makes and, and, and benefit the Mets.
Why would you not do it? Like, why?
Because all the gangs and the Mets can't make a deal.
It's not good for business. All the perception, blah, blah,
blah. If if I'm on one outlet that
that espouses a certain, you know, tone towards politics, but
I'm not talking politics. But it's a massive platform to
talk about something important like youth, youth sports and the
decaying nature and the pressures and the economic
costs. Why am I not doing that same
thing if Rachel or CNN, it reached out, just haven't
reached out. So yeah, I would go.
You got to use. You got to use every platform
you can in this world. There's a few people I wouldn't
go on with, but yeah, I'm sure what else you.
Got would love if. BT linked up with CP and do an
episode together. Could have it simulcasted on
both KFTV and BT's channel. Who's CPK?
He's CP from Knicks fan. TV.
I don't know if you've ever watched his channel see Peter
franchise. I think so.
Is that what you're talking about?
This guy, yeah, he's got a good channel.
He's got he's. Got a lot of Subs.
Yeah, he's got a. Great channel.
I don't know. So yeah, I feel like, I mean,
that would be really cool. I think he took a shot once with
me and Sal. Really.
I think so when we were on. He was on with Evan and Tiki, I
think, and me and me and Sal were like, dude, like Evan and
Tiki, how the fuck you guys didn't?
Why didn't you stand up for us, man?
Like it wasn't a vicious shot. I forget what it was, but me and
Sal, I remember talking to Sal about I'm like, what?
How are you letting this happen here?
I don't even know. It may have been about Carl
Banks. I don't even know.
Yeah, no. They put out good content.
They put. I know he's a big Knicks guy.
I haven't met him. Listen, I'm all for there's a
good few people saying saying that would be great.
Listen, get it to him. I don't know him.
Yeah, I would do some collabs. I'm I'm definitely going to do
some collabs. I know we.
Are I would do it absolutely man 100%.
That's some fun with that. What else you got?
Anything else just on the bear show?
Is it because I'd love? To see this too, is it possible
to to see like the you on whatever man versus bear?
Yes, the man. OK, it's still possible.
Yes. Hold on.
I'm going to pull something up on my phone.
Oh yeah. It's 100% there, man versus bear
discovery. You know what sucks about that
too? Now listen, I made, you know, I
made a couple of bucks. It was an amazing experience.
Hold on, man versus bear. Wait to see one of the promo
pictures. It was wild, dude.
I mean, I hate to Google my own name.
I don't even know if it'll pop up here.
Hang on. Well, one of the like classic
Brandon Tierney. Promo images Is that picture?
Is the man there one of you kind of with the grimace going down?
Oh, here's 1. So here's one, right?
So we were hang on. So yeah, you can see that right
there. You can see that right there,
right? Man versus bear on set.
Yeah, that that was a lot of fun.
And the crazy, too. Is that we let me see if I can
actually get the oh this one Jesus, I look like let me see
it. I look like I look like such AI
just look like a complete douche.
In this picture. Don't I?
I'm in the mountains. I'm in the mountains of Utah
wearing like this construction shirt.
I know. That was a good one.
This one was us on the set with some of the competitors.
Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm just Googling stuff.
I don't know. Yeah, it was some cool.
It was fun. This was the actual image of
the. This is not me.
This is frame that's in my man cave.
That's a pretty bad ass promo. That's what was on Discovery.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the the. Crazy thing about that is that
it? Started out really well, like
the way these go, the way you make money.
And again, I I made, I made pretty good money doing it.
Not life changing money, but it was really good.
It was good, but the way you make real money, life changing
money is now for a second season to get picked up.
Right. So I remember we had a big watch
party at at my at my home here. My parents came.
Kids were little. We had like this big Jen got
like a bear cake. You know, we had like this Big
Bear theme. It was awesome.
And we're watching it and the the next day the ratings come
out. We did well.
We either tied or beat Tucker Carlson from Fox.
Now, whether you love yeah, whether you love Tucker or hate
Tucker, Tucker was a ratings machine at the really was the
monster, right? And we may have even been a slot
higher, right? Or I forget exactly, but we got
the ratings and the executives were thrilled, right?
And then, if I recollect correctly, the impeachment
proceedings with Trump. With Trump.
With Trump took off. With Trump took off right?
And now? Think about it.
Instead of watching some Mindless Bear try to RIP people
in half, people are going to pay attention to what's going on in
the world. Of course.
Yeah. And then Week 2 we went from a
really high poll. Our.
First show to five stop 5. You know 5.
Slots lower, Sure, a little. Lower, a little lower.
And then the network execs were like, you know what, We're going
to I think maybe say it was on a Wednesday night.
I don't think it was. I think it, but say it was on a
Wednesday. Hey, we're going to put it on
Saturday now. Once you start changing days
around, it's over. Oh yeah, I mean that I've never
done a show like. That.
So I'm like, oh, maybe Saturday would be better, I'm thinking.
It's going to be good, but you're basically buried it
saying it ain't working. I don't.
I don't know and I'll never know the answer to it, but.
If it would have. Made it like if Trump doesn't
get in Pete's and the proceedings aren't taking away
everybody's attention on a night which is more important than a
bear show, I get it. It wasn't diverting eyeballs to
other channels and more important things in the world.
You know, maybe a boy would have a few more bucks in the account
because season 2 would have come and that's where you make money.
Like that's where you make real money.
So we'll never know. We'll never know.
Interesting. Well, I'm checking it out then.
All right, man. Go check it out.
No it's pretty wild. Like some of the some.
Of the things that they tried to do were amazing.
Let's see anything else here? Give me like more or two more.
I got to roll. All right, let's see BT you
should collab with. I know I got to roll too.
You should collab with NYY Underground and Bad Dog Sports,
both great Yankee channels. Not familiar with either of
those channels, but definitely we'll check them out.
Yeah, I mean, listen, here's the thing guys.
I appreciate that and I'm definitely.
Open to these collabs. There's no doubt I'll have a
little fun with this, but I'm not going to go begging.
I mean, so if you guys, I don't know some of these channels
because I'm still fairly I know that CPS thing on on the Knicks.
I know that's got a big following.
I don't know that Y1, no disrespect, but like, if there's
somebody that you want to see me with, reach out to them and tell
them to reach out to me, I'll do it.
You know, I've I've got to do my homework and my research.
I've got to make sure it's a viable outlet and, you know, I'm
I'm sure that those I know that the next one is I'm sure the
Yankees is, but, you know, whatever Mason Miller has stones
had the challenge system been in effect, it would have been a
ball. And runners on 1st and 3rd.
I think that was a ball, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What else we got here? Oh, the Chase and Statham vibes
with that, with that Utah mountain picture.
Yeah, People said that about that.
Looked like him a little bit. All right.
Is there one more? Anything about the Beningo stuff
there? That was really interesting.
Let's see. I mean a lot of them were like
those super chats. We got to.
Let's see, there might be a good one.
Go back, go back. Let's see.
I don't know if we read. This one less competition back
then vying for our attention. The golden age is over.
Joe is right. I don't know.
Do we say do we go over that one?
Holy shit I've got like 13 text messages here.
From what I don't know, it looks like my old boss Hurley, who's a
great guy at the Fan, asked me if I wanted to jump on with Evan
and Tiki. Friday.
Talk, some talk some Johnnies. Yeah, I'll do it.
Of course. Let's go.
I'll talk some Johnnies and then I'll take over.
Let's go. Evan and Tiki.
Anyway. Go ahead.
So where? Were where were we FA?
And back to my last show. Yo, I'll jump off those guys and
talk. Wait, I have no.
Good relationship. Would that be remote or would
that be in? New York No, man, I'm going to
be in San Diego, you knucklehead.
You're playing Friday. I'm an.
Idiot. I'm my Hey John just playing
Friday night. Let me see.
I don't want to divulge. Everything.
Let's see, I've got text messages from Mickey Ladarullo.
I told you we're trying to get her.
On the show so. Oh, looks like she's going to
go. I got to get that taken care of.
Got something from Minko. Got something from Travel for
Saint. A lot of St.
John's stuff. Wow.
Got something from Sal saying get out of J Rod I text.
I'm like, I don't know how the hell I'm.
Going to figure out doing this shit on the road.
He's like, as I was texting, he's like, get out of J Rod.
That's your responsibility. I agree.
Wow. I mean, you got a lot of texts.
I got a lot of stuff to do here. My goodness.
Do you have one more text that we could do?
I think I could, Yeah. Wait, this is my boy.
This is actually a pretty good one.
This is your boy? Yeah.
From. Josh GABA shout out Lower East
Side BT judge was quoted saying that WBC is bigger and better
than the World Series. I'm going to need evidence of
that statement. Yeah, wait, let me find, I will
need some. Evidence I'm not I'm not taking
that and I'd. Have to know.
The context there. So I mean, there is now if he
does, then two hours ago, yeah, blah blah blah, then I'm going
to have to crush him. I'm not going to Aaron Judge.
Says, though, WBC has become baseball.
'S biggest stage speaking after the seven to two or set after a
2 to 1 semi final win. Over the Dominican.
Republic the passion these fans have representing their country
all right, this is a little different representing some of
their players there's nothing like it let me see though that's
different way that he's saying listen, here's the only thing
that would bother me and I know he.
Wouldn't say this, Baron Judge said.
Winning the WBC is more important than winning the World
Series. I would absolutely destroy
Aaron. I would destroy Aaron Judge.
There's no way he remotely implying that AP was time to
reach in. You think?
Oh, let me. Get clicks here.
Come on. There's no way, Aaron Judge.
Is going to say that he better not say that No, no way.
I mean, he's talking about the the pageantry and the, you know,
the pride in your country and the energy.
And there is more energy in the WBC.
As nutty as Yankee Stadium is, you know, the last World Series,
Yankees, Dodgers, it's crazier. I mean, come on, it's more
frenetic. It's different.
It's like a soccer. OK, He did say no.
I take it back. I.
Take it the World Series. I was in the crowd here.
The crowd we had. When we played against Mexico,
it's bigger and better than the World Series.
That's not what that doesn't bother me though.
Different, different, different. That's why I said let's get
some. Research before we start taking.
Taking down #99 and there's no reason to do that.
That's his opinion. He's the one who's playing in
it. He's the one who feels it.
I got no problem with it now. I might read some other stuff
later on which might have a little bit of a problem
tomorrow, but we're. So if that's the case, we shall
see. I got to wrap it up, man.
I really got a lot of stuff long.
Yeah, me. I got a bike to work, bro.
Hey, did we go 2 1/2 hours? Today, yes, this is easily the
longest. Hey, stuff.
Listen, BT is the man of the. People, I'm here for you.
We got it. And also I mean not to.
Get too meta here, but I'll say we kept a great audience the
entire way through. Love it, love it.
Absolutely. So that's big.
Thank you to all everyone watching I mean.
And I even saw some new regulars in today, so I appreciate it,
y'all. Thanks for watching.
I mean, obviously just hit a Millie.
Let's keep this trainer rolling. Yeah.
Yeah, By the way, Speaking of Millie, why don't you get that
little graphic we cook up? Now, we cooked up the other day.
Yeah, we hit a Millie. That's right.
But uh. If think about keep it up, like
if you would have given me that, like think about this, I would
have been if I didn't know what was going on and somebody just
handed me this, this picture like 3-3 months ago, right?
Or four months ago. I'm like, what in the world,
What, what happened, What's going on?
But it's made a lot of sense and hey, there are massive mountains
to climb. Hopefully no mountains like the
one in Utah where I almost lost, where I did lose my shit.
That was like, that was very, that was like professional
comedian. Stuff right there.
I'm impressed. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah. So that is nice man 1.
Million eventually becomes 2 and so on and so forth.
I need you guys to like it, subscribe it, get that traction
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10. I'll figure something out on the
road. I'll do the show tomorrow cuz I
believe we're flying out tomorrow night with Saint John.
So I'll be working tomorrow. I'll update you all.
That's with all that stuff. Hopefully Nikki Ladarullo
tomorrow. She was a St.
John's fan as a kid. She's been covering the
Johnnies. We'll have some fun with her.
Looks like she's traveling out West as well, so we'll bring it
all to you. Man, I can't wait to get out to
San Diego. Hopefully the Johnnies go deeper
than they did a year ago. The WB stuff, WBC stuff was very
good today. Awesome.
Just basically every inning was like a a little teeny tiny
signature moment. Bigot bat, high leverage guys
getting thrown out on the bases, big strikeouts, big home runs,
awesome. Awesome night watching baseball.
And now the United States has to finish the job.
And of course, the stuff that Joe said about the fans.
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