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Going on everybody. 
BT Unleashed, Yeah, let's get 

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it. 
We got a monster show today. 

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I'm absolutely pumped up. 
Jay Rod is pumped up. 

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We got a little WBC. 
We've got a lot of March 

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Madness. 
Joe Beningo said. 

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Some really interesting things 
about WFAN. 

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I'm going to get into that as 
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J Rod, what's going on there, 
buddy? 

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How was my guy? 
Jake? 

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Look at him, look at James. 
What's up? 

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How we doing? 
French fan. 

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Great weekend of sports, great 
games. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, always good. 

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We've got a little, we've got a 
little news to share and let's, 

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this is good. 
This is a little benchmark here.

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Let look at this. 
We got a million views there so 

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that I wanted to get that out of
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I'll keep it up a little longer 
now, but let's celebrate the 

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moment a little bit. 
I mean, Chase, you know, we 

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started with, well, you know, 
when you start with no 

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subscribers and no watched hours
and you know, nothing. 

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And basically you got to figure 
out how to do this thing and 

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have my son produce the first 
week of the show because he was 

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home for Christmas break. 
And I had no producer And the 

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first show was in my basement 
with Wi-Fi and the mic with the,

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with bad Wi-Fi and no 
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And it was wow, to, to this. 
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still building this thing out. 
But really, guys, I don't want 

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to belabor this, but this is, I 
mean, it's, it's not because of 

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me, it's because of you. 
All right? 

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You guys have followed me. 
It gets stronger, it gets 

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bigger, it grows, it becomes 
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within all of the other 
platforms out there. 

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We made national news twice last
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Michael talked about the 
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it really hurt his show. 
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with with Noddy pucks. 
Don the Greco came out and said 

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that he should have been more 
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on the show. 
So we're off and running. 

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That means the world to me. 
It's just it's just a little 

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thing that I can get that off 
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As I look at the, you know, I'm 
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windshield guy than a rearview 
mirror guy, but I wanted to 

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acknowledge that. 
Thank you very much, man. 

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And again, I think down the road
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wow, 1 million views. 
You made a big deal out of that 

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big damn deal. 
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now for the channel and right 
now for us, you better believe 

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it's a big deal. 
So awesome. 

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All right, it's going to be a 
very unique week here. 

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So first of all, I know that St.
John's got hoes. 

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Then we're going to do a lot of 
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bit. 
I want to start with the WBC. 

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We'll get to the Beningo stuff. 
J Rod, I got to figure this out 

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because we are I I got the word 
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John's over the weekend that if 
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were going to get that, you 
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there, or at least playing the 
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leave on Tuesday. 
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So no matter when they were 
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that's that's that's fine. 
It's San Diego. 

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I'm going to have a good time. 
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here because I, you know, I, I 
actually now I got to do the 

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show on the road. 
You might you might just have to

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put the laptop up when the 
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Going down and just have like a 
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the game. 
That would be money. 

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That would be phenomenal. 
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that. 
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copyright infringement. 
I know you're kidding, but I 

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mean, I can't pack this 
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to my Home Office desk. 
I, I got to figure this out and 

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I will, we'll do a lot of 
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shorter variety. 
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I'm going to be out there with 
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a lot of fun stuff, but I, I do 
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That's something J&J Rod and I 
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All right, let's get to the WBC 
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I'd be lied if I said I always 
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parachute in. 
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United States, the more I've 
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It's it's always meant the world
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Puerto Rico and Japan. 
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turned into a really good event.
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No, no hyperbole, no bullshit. 
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most excited that I ever was to 
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I swear to God, Like I was so 
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game. 
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bump. 
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Dominican Republic, who very 
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record with with their 15th home
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And the crazy thing, I'm first 
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USA. 
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And Derosa, who you know, was 
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pretty good game. 
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inning this happened. 
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even want to do that, but I 
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because last night there was 
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like if you love baseball, there
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you got skeins on the bump, you 
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was taking 99 right away. 
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there with this below from a 
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He was a good 2-3 MPH faster 
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You know, that Dominicans, they,
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swag. 
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presentation by Team USA. 
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home run and not a cheapie 
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up. 
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So you have theater right there.
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third and Team USA is down 1 
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You have Aaron Judge up and 
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to the right side, SAC fly, get 
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You don't think they're gonna 
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And and they didn't, but Judge 
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Schwarber didn't come through. 
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So but high drama, right? 
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the third and Tatis has gunned 
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Then you get to Gunnar Henderson
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You get to I wrote, how good is 
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My God almighty, Roman Anthony 
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And the crazy thing about that. 
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heat. 
He sat down Bregman, which I and

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great fielder veteran, you know,
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his numbers against Severino 
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I think he was 7 for 11 with a 
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also played the numbers there 
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But he did something that I'm 
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would have done bank. 
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phenomenal. 
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fourth. 
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bases, Juice flies out to left 
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I thought he got it. 
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Judge robbed by Julio Rodriguez 
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But when when you hear, you 
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Superman, just phenomenal stuff.
And that ball was going to go 

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over Now, I mean, listen, 
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robbing home runs, Griffey, some
Craig, Devon White, some sick 

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stuff, right? 
But that would have got over the

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fence and given the tie, given 
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backdrop, the energy in the 
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Then you go to bottom five, 
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You're bringing Tyler Rogers 
who's throwing totally different

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stuff, right? 
Keep that up there. 

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I'll get to Jay. 
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what skeens is pumping up who's 
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99 Tyler Rogers comes in throws 
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Soto taps into a double play 
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Then you go to the bottom of the
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USA Bednar's and you know Bednar
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with then you have Morte with 
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then obviously to wrap it up you
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third base 2 to one USA boom 
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So now you've, you got Venezuela
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you got Team USA trying to bring
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And listen, one thing that I 
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into something, I'm not gonna 
try to shove it down your 

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throat. 
Like if you're not into the Big 

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East tournament, which if you're
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Northeast, I don't know how 
you're not into the Big East 

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tournament. 
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East tournament, hey, I think 
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into say the Masters or the US 
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I think you're missing out if 
you're not into elements of 

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March Madness. 
All the expansion, all the 1st 

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for whatever. 
It's not the same as it used to 

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be when I was young because of 
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Fine that that's your opinion. 
I respect it. 

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So I'm not going to shove the 
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I'm just telling you how I've 
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It's become more and more 
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It's become more and more drama 
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The players take it seriously. 
And what else could you ask for?

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I mean, really from a baseball 
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the Yankees and I've checked in 
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what's going on at Tampa in Port
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and and Saint Lucie, some of the
stories like Ben's trying to win

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the, you know, the the right 
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things, right? 
But you talk about a high level,

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high stakes, you know, drama 
that is all rooted in pride and 

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energy. 
You've had players. 

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Now, I know that this bothers 
people and this isn't the first 

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year it's been said you've had 
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I don't know if an American has 
said this. 

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And if they have, I'm, I'm not 
trying to gloss over and I just 

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don't think I've ever heard it. 
But I've heard some of the 

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international players say that 
they view the WBC as more 

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championship, more meaningful 
than winning the World Series. 

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Now you don't really want to 
hear that, but I'm not going to 

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push back because I can't relate
to their pride in their country.

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I've got a lot of pride in our 
country, but it's it's it's, 

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it's different with some of the 
Latin countries and the Latin 

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countries really just spice this
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So if you don't like it, great. 
There was a point, admittedly, 

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where I'm like, it's a little 
contrived, like a lot of things 

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that just start even the even 
the NBA Cup, whatever, that 

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that's never going to have this 
kind of energy because it's just

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it's just different. 
But I thoroughly enjoyed it so 

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far. 
And let's win the freaking 

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thing. 
Let's go, let's go red, white 

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and blue. 
I'd love to play Italy. 

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Do I think Italy's going to win?
I mean, at this point, I'm not 

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going to say no. 
They're on this magic ride. 

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But it was a lot of fun. 
And just to reiterate, and I, 

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and I mean this, outside of 
Yankee games and even met 

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playoff games, like when I'm 
watching for work, whatever, I 

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have never sat down with the 
anticipation that I had for last

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night's baseball game. 
This is going to sound crazy. 

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It was on par with with me 
getting like wanting to know 

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where I'm travelling with St. 
John's. 

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And by the way, St. 
John's got host. 

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They got host. 
We'll get to that a little bit. 

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What a weekend, man. 
What an absolutely awesome 

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weekend. 
That was not a strike. 

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It was a pick off attempt at 
China. 

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No, I'm not. 
I don't know what's going on 

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with that. 
I mean, do we have to that by 

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saying do we have to keep that 
up that long, get it off? 

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I don't even know. 
J Rod, did you at least check in

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a little bit, bud? 
Yes, Sir. 

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Yeah, I caught AI, caught a 
couple innings. 

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I caught when like I think it 
was Skeens he he struck out 

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Tatis or no. 
Tatis got the single the first 

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base. 
They were like man on 1st and 

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2nd and then they got the outs. 
So yeah. 

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What you not told about the you 
not talk about the bottom of the

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7th when there was 2 on USA? 
No, it was bottom of the fourth 

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into top of the fifth, I think. 
Yes, that's when Schemes was 

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pulled. 
That's when Rogers came in and 

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got sold to tap out. 
Yeah, No, it's, listen, 

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everything about it's been 
phenomenal. 

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I it just translates to TV. 
There's energy. 

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Listen, I I had a chance. 
I told you, I think I mentioned 

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this once I went to Santo 
Domingo. 

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All right, now, I'll never 
forget this. 

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I was in college. 
It was like a group of us, not 

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with my university, but a group 
of players. 

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And we went to the Dominican 
Republic for about, I think we 

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were there a good week or so, 
right? 

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And it, it was by far the most 
amazing baseball experience I've

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ever had. 
And I was so amazing for a lot 

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of reasons. 
Number of the competition was 

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phenomenal. 
We did well, but nobody cares 

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about that. 
The stadiums were just so 

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unique. 
I remember actually getting off 

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the team bus True story. 
And this young Dominican boy, 

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God, J Rod, he had to be 8, 
didn't have sneakers. 

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It was like milk cartoons and 
shoes. 

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True story. 
Yeah. 

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And he was actually offering and
he didn't. 

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He didn't. 
I didn't understand what he was 

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saying, but he wound up pointing
and, like, almost like feigning,

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like how you would Polish 
something. 

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He was basically asking us if he
could Polish our cleats to make 

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money. 
I mean, I only had a few bucks 

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on me, but I'm like, absolutely.
And it was just awesome. 

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Like, just the the stands are so
unique, man. 

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Like the cowbells and the 
Dominican flags. 

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It's like they, I love what they
do. 

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I, I, I love it, man. 
They turn it into almost like a 

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football, soccer, basketball 
environment. 

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And all you had to do, and I'm 
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All you had to do is when, when 
they when they panned the crowd 

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and you saw those Dominican fans
with their, with their Dr. 

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jerseys and their hats like 
first inning reacting to a 

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strikeout or or a base hit, 
whatever it was, the home run, 

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the look in their eyes, ma'am, 
the intensity, it matters. 

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And again, I'm not going to try 
to sell anybody on it. 

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It is really turned into for me,
an awesome event that I now 

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really enjoy. 
I love it. 

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There we go. 
Yeah, I mean, it's cool, you 

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know, it gives a bit of an 
Olympic feel to the game of 

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baseball, say. 
Yeah, I think the difference 

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fair. 
I think it's better than the 

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Olympics. 
I really do. 

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I do not that I tuned in really 
much for the Olympics this year 

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at all. 
I don't care about the Olympics.

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I, I just, I don't, I don't like
some of the events I do. 

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I watch some of the golf. 
I started to watch that when 

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they implemented that a couple 
of years ago. 

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Obviously, although he's watched
the basketball, you know, the 

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gymnastics is amazing because 
those, those young ladies are 

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phenomenal. 
Like what they do, some of the 

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stuff they do is crazy, you 
know, like you start to get some

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of the summer activities, like 
the pole vault, like just, it's 

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so hard. 
Like how could you not watch 

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with intrigue? 
But I don't know, I, I think I 

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know all these players. 
It's really, it's really like, 

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you know, see one of the thing, 
think about this, Jay. 

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To me, it's really like an All 
Star game on steroids, right, 

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Because if you look at all the 
All Star games, you know, 

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football, I, I don't even know 
what it is anymore. 

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Like it went from, you know, 
playing real football, then 

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hitting. 
I remember, you know, Tiki 

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telling me that he was telling 
who who was it was it right? 

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It was somebody where he was 
getting tackled in the Pro Bowl 

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and he was like, hey, just lay 
me down gently as he was getting

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tackled, right. 
And and but even a couple of 

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years before Tiki and way before
that, like they would play with 

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Frosty, they would play with 
purpose, right? 

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And then it like was like flag a
beach football and and the kid 

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Edwards from the Pats, remember 
he shredded his knee. 

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I had to stop that. 
There's like, I don't even know 

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what it is. 
It's like a glorified flag 

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football fest. 
So it's terrible. 

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I don't even know what they do 
or where it is. 

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Don't care. 
The NBA for a while it was still

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really enjoyable, but it's, it's
become an absolute joke. 

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I don't know the exact scores of
hockey, but I remember for years

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it was like 11897. 
To me at least, the baseball All

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Star game really truly does 
represent, I think it represents

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like the the closest 
approximation to what it's 

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really like when you play the 
actual game because guys, you 

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know, guys are still throwing 
95, guys are still swinging 

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hard, guys are still chasing 
balls and pursuing balls with 

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vigor trying to make plays. 
They're still throwing peas 

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across the diamond like it. 
It looks like baseball. 

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So this to me is the ultimate 
All Star game that includes the 

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world. 
And it's it's so good for the 

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growth of the game. 
You know, there's some people 

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who don't love it. 
That's fine. 

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You know, process it how you 
will. 

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I'm into it man. 
Officially. 

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Quick side swipe. 
So do you think that those 

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players, you know, comparatively
from like baseball to football 

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All Star games, do you think 
it's because there's like less 

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of a tendency for like a crazy 
career debilitating injury 

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within baseball that players 
kind of keep up a similar play 

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style in their All Star game or 
WBC Classic compared to like the

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other All Stars I. 
Don't you know? 

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I don't, I don't know. 
I listen, I'm telling you how I 

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feel from my point of view, if I
was a general manager, you know,

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and I'm, I'm running the 
Pirates. 

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Do I really need to see both 
skins out there before Saint 

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Patty's Day dialing things up 
against probably the best lineup

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in the history of baseball 
anywhere? 

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Certainly one through 7 or so. 
I mean to navigate that 

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Dominican lineup. 
Wow, it's just dog, dog, dog 

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studs. 
It's it's insane. 

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So I, I don't, I don't know, 
maybe baseball players are are I

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don't want to say wired a little
differently, but I can't explain

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it. 
I, I don't know. 

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I, I think I do think a lot of 
it is rooted in pride. 

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I do. 
Definitely. 

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I do like when you grow up in 
Japan and you're a baseball 

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player, your process is very 
different than, say, in America.

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That doesn't mean that, like, a 
lot of Americans don't work 

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hard, but like in Japan, they 
practice a lot more than they 

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actually play games. 
And in the Dominican Republican,

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you know, Puerto Rico and other 
Latin areas, like they really 

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are, are fighting to get off the
island. 

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Like there's an old expression, 
hey, you walk. 

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You don't get off the island by 
walking. 

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You get off the island by raking
you off the island by putting 

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balls in the seat and Havron 
pulls all the screws in the gap.

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So it's like in a lot of ways, 
they're fighting for their for 

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their lives. 
And even when they get those 

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exorbitant contracts, that 
doesn't fade so they don't lose 

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their connection to their 
homeland, which which which I 

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think what has happened now is 
that's kind of pushed us a 

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little bit to view it a little 
bit more seriously and through a

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more competitive prism. 
Like we might not celebrate as 

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much. 
We might process things a little

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bit. 
It's a little bit more of a 

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business approach, at least what
they put out. 

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I don't know that that's like a 
broad brush in the stereotype, 

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but it is. 
I mean, the Dominican team 

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celebrates, you know, everything
and their presence, I mean, it's

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palpable. 
Team USA little different. 

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And that's how we do business 
and that's how they do business.

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And it's a great, it's a great 
contrast, but the pride that is 

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burning, you know, within Harper
and Judge and Schwarber and 

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schemes and wit who has made 
some sick plays and shortstop, 

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it's been a lot of fun. 
So hopefully you guys enjoyed 

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it. 
I certainly enjoyed it. 

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That's only one thing on the 
table. 

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We got a lot to do today until I
get into the stuff about what 

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Joe B said about the fan. 
You saw that? 

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It's going to be spicy. 
Yes, Sir. 

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Yeah, First saw the tweet and 
then you sent over the quote. 

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Man, I've got a lot of opinions 
on that. 

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I'm sure you do. 
I've got a lot of opinions on 

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that, which I will obviously get
to. 

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All right, so let's get to the 
Johnnies now. 

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First of all, and I said this on
the air the other night with 

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Mink. 
I don't know what it sounded 

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like, you know, because I wasn't
there when Hulk Hogan in the 

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Iron Cheek to win the 
championship, you know, and 

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Hulkamania was born. 
And then obviously us 

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WrestleMania and all that stuff 
at the Garden. 

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I wasn't there. 
But I don't know that it could 

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have sounded much better and 
louder and different. 

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And it's that perfect 
combination of like energy and 

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anger and anticipation and 
territoriality, you name it. 

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That place was on fire on 
Saturday night. 

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And St. 
John's just kicked the crap out 

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of Yukon, just destroyed them. 
So I was surprised when it, when

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the seating came out. 
I was surprised and I was 

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disappointed all right, but I'm 
also of the mindset. 

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Quit crying now. 
Saint John's isn't crying about 

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it. 
A lot of fans are. 

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I get it. 
You want to know like. 

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That. 
I, I also should probably say 

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that I don't, I don't mean the 
diehards, but there's a lot of 

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people at this time of the year 
who kind of jump in now and 

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their first reaction is, and, 
and it's a fair one. 

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I'm not saying it's off base. 
Like, wait a second. 

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So Saint John's won the Big East
tournament, Saint John's won the

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regular season championship, 
Saint John's had a net ranking, 

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which is a, which is an 
important thing, of 17 inside 

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the top 20. 
They had a Ken Palm ranking of 

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17. 
They won 19 of 20 games to 

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finish the year. 
They were ranked 13th in the 

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country going into the weekend. 
And they played UConn, who's a 

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two seed, and it's been top five
and top 10 all year and they 

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beat him two out of three times.
So why is Saint John's A5 seed? 

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Well, I mean, there's a couple 
of things at play here. 

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Number one, the Big East is 
really down. 

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And when you when you look at 
UCONN's resume, they have more 

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Quad 1 success. 
And there's a reason why the 

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quad one matters. 
Now, I'm not the ultimate 

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arbiter here. 
I don't I do think it's a little

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unfair that there are five seed.
I do what I think is patently 

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offensive is that they're 
shipping them out to California.

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That doesn't make any sense. 
Like, in my mind, I'm saying 

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when when they beat UConn and 
the matter in which they beat 

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them, right? 
Not to mention St. 

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John's didn't trail in the 
entire Big East tournament. 

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They went in and they whacked 
Providence. 

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They went in and they whacked 
Seton Hall. 

445
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,480
They went in and they dismantled
Yukon, Boom, boom, boom. 

446
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,920
So I thought that they would be 
more justly rewarded, but they 

447
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,640
weren't. 
So, you know, it is what it is. 

448
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,520
I think the thing that's a 
little bit unfair is really the 

449
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,880
location again. 
And I was just trying to plot 

450
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,800
this out in my own mind as I was
getting ready for. 

451
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,560
All right, So what do I think is
going to happen with travel? 

452
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,160
Where are we going to go? 
When do you think we'll leave? 

453
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,960
And I was told that we were 
going to leave early, like if 

454
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480
they did get shipped out West 
and they played Friday, we were 

455
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,360
leaving Tuesday, which we are, 
as I said before, leave tomorrow

456
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,240
night. 
So not that I'm complaining and 

457
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,680
not that you guys really care. 
You just want the content. 

458
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,880
I get it. 
I get to go on a charter plane 

459
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,680
to San Diego. 
I'm not going to complain much. 

460
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,120
J Rod. 
I mean, if I'm complaining, 

461
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,800
let's just hold on. 
Let's just get a little reality.

462
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,120
Thank God I've remained 
completely grounded because I've

463
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,640
gotten older. 
Like I haven't changed at all 

464
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,680
with that. 
I never will. 

465
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,160
If I was complaining today, I 
mean really complaining, we got 

466
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,400
to go to San Diego, 83° and 
sunny. 

467
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,640
You got a thermostat over the 
entire city. 

468
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,360
And I haven't been to San Diego 
in a minute. 

469
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,240
It's been a while. 
It's been like 20 years. 

470
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,760
I get to go. 
It's like I got to take a 

471
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:57,160
connecting flight out of JFKI, 
drive my car to a private 

472
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,560
airport, and I walk on a charter
plane and have food waiting for 

473
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,560
me, and I have two big seats and
I could sleep, I could read, I 

474
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,800
could do music, I could do work,
which I'll do all four of those 

475
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,320
and then go to a beautiful hotel
for a couple nights. 

476
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,840
If I complain about and get a 
chance to call NCAA tournament 

477
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,920
games again, if I'm complaining 
about that, it is time to leave 

478
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,280
the business because that is a 
phenomenal few days. 

479
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:26,800
Yeah. 
No, I mean, that's a, you know, 

480
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800
obviously not a vacation, but 
that's a nice trip. 

481
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,720
A vacation, that's a nice trip. 
There we go. 

482
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,160
Hey, I don't have to go and 
practice. 

483
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,640
I just got to go and do the 
games. 

484
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,560
True, You know what I mean? 
Now I'll go to the shoot arounds

485
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280
and I'll go to the walkthroughs 
and you know, I might sit. 

486
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,200
Rick's a little different. 
See, when Mullen was the coach 

487
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,440
and, and others as well, they 
would let Mink and I sit in like

488
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,480
the way it goes when you're on 
the road with a college team, 

489
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,560
you'll, they have like a big 
spread for, for all the meals, 

490
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320
right? 
And it's usually in a, in a 

491
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,280
conference room. 
And I mean all the, for the 

492
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,640
eggs, the pancakes, the bacon, 
the sausage, then the apple 

493
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,320
juice. 
I mean the protein shakes, I 

494
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840
mean the granola, it's full 
spread everything. 

495
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,400
And when you're eating, that's 
when they, they roll in the big 

496
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040
TV and they just have it on loop
and they've already done their 

497
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,080
scouting and the players are 
eating and watching and they 

498
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,160
splice it up. 
So it's literally play, play, 

499
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,640
play, play, play. 
The video coordinators do that 

500
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
and they're just watching who 
they're playing and they're just

501
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,960
getting a better sense of what's
coming their way. 

502
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,480
Rick doesn't, Rick doesn't let 
us do that. 

503
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,320
We can, we can eat, but we've 
got to, we've got to be, you 

504
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,200
know, a little bit after the 
team and doesn't want us to 

505
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,840
watch film, which is fine. 
Every coach has their process. 

506
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,280
I have no problem with that. 
But really, outside of calling 

507
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,360
the actual games, we'll be 
having a Margarita. 

508
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,120
So there we go. 
Am I going to be doing nothing? 

509
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,280
Explore in San Diego? 
How about? 

510
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,200
I got to get now I got to see 
Mink with a Margarita in them. 

511
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,640
That's my God, that would be. 
That would be incredible man. 

512
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,600
Yeah, man. 
Listen, it it it is horseshit. 

513
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,480
It really is. 
When you look at this again, 

514
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480
just listen to the resume. 
Biggie's regular season champs. 

515
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,760
Biggie's tournament champs. 
I said 17. 

516
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,080
I'm sorry. 
Net of 1617, Ken Palm beat UConn

517
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,960
2 out of three times. 
They won 19 to 20 and he's 

518
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280
shipping them out West now. 
Because I was starting, I said 

519
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560
this before as I was starting to
structure my my week here. 

520
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,960
Part of me was like, wow, it 
would be easier if they're 

521
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,600
placed in Philly because then I 
don't have to go down a day 

522
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,320
early. 
I could do an extra show from my

523
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,040
office and then figure things 
out on the road. 

524
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,720
I could drive down to Philly, 
like I drove up to Providence 

525
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,240
last year and WFAN wound up 
getting me a radio station like 

526
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,640
the sports station up in 
Providence. 

527
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,320
And I did that Thursday and 
Friday show with Sal. 

528
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,240
I was on location in Providence.
That was obviously back in New 

529
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,240
York. 
So I'm like, I feel they would 

530
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,160
be appealing. 
Buffalo's a quick trip, but you 

531
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,200
know, I've been to Buffalo, kind
of want to see something new. 

532
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,960
Tampa would be great. 
Go hang out with my guy Booty, 

533
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
catch up with the Yankees, maybe
get around the golfing, which I 

534
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,120
guess I could still do in San 
Diego, but jeez, I'm going to go

535
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,840
out there and shoot a one O 9 on
some nice course in San Diego. 

536
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,160
Hey, funny story for you, J Rod 
you're going to laugh at. 

537
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:05,560
This. 
Yeah. 

538
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,840
What's up all? 
Right. 

539
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,640
So when was it? 
Oh God. 

540
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,320
Oh, let's see. 
I moved to Las Vegas, my second 

541
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960
radio job. 
This is how I this is how I view

542
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,800
my life. 
My, I've got to chronologically 

543
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,800
in my in my seared in my brain 
when I graduate, graduated 

544
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,560
college, when I got my first 
radio job. 

545
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,280
And then obviously I know every 
single stop that I've been at. 

546
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,800
So I'm able to very quickly 
remember where I was anyway. 

547
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,640
And I remember celebrating New 
Year's Eve 2000. 

548
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,120
Remember why 2K? 
Well, you don't Everybody was 

549
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,880
scared of why 2 Ki was on the 
strip. 

550
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080
I was actually on the Strip 
hanging out in Las Vegas. 

551
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,400
Anyway, so the the, the hold on.
What is this? 

552
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Is that something I'm going to 
want to read here? 

553
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Hang on. 
Yes. 

554
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,520
What do we got? 
Pop that up real fast. 

555
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Pop that up there. 
What do we got? 

556
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,400
OK, I can get. 
I can get. 

557
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,040
I can get to that after. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

558
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,800
Tell the story and then we'll 
pop it back up. 

559
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Hang on. 
OK, So like Vegas, I mean, I'm 

560
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,960
almost I can't I can't tell that
story. 

561
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,000
That's why there was one, but I 
got to leave part of it out. 

562
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,880
I. 
See I. 

563
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,920
See, I'm trying to navigate this
in my mind and I'm like, now I 

564
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,280
leave one part out and this part
I can tell you. 

565
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,400
So I'm in Vegas and I remember 
the year, I guess it was, I get 

566
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,320
there for 2000. 
I think it was 2001. 

567
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,480
Long story short. 
That's by the way, that's going 

568
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,800
to be a new segment. 
Long story short because I said,

569
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,400
oh, real. 
Although it should really be 

570
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,200
short story long. 
That's really what we can. 

571
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,920
Who are we kidding, Jay? 
Ron. 

572
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840
It's got to be short story. 
Long there is a comment last 

573
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,880
episode I was dying it was like 
this dude just loves like the 

574
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,640
soliloquies. 
I can't help it. 

575
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,400
I know, I know Short story long 
with BT Anyway, short story 

576
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,280
long. 
So in in Las Vegas, I rented a 

577
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,440
house with three of the guys 
that I worked with, the radio 

578
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,080
station. 
And I mean, that's, that was the

579
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,720
story. 
I'm one of those. 

580
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,280
I was going to tell you one of 
the stories, but I'm not. 

581
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,560
So we're like me, I'm like, I 
have to see Tony Gwynn hit in 

582
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,120
person before he retires. 
And he had announced his 

583
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,080
retirement. 
So we're in Nevada and I'm like,

584
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,160
no, let's, let's go to let's 
drive to San Diego. 

585
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280
Let's go. 
So we go to sit, we get in my 

586
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,760
truck, we drive me, my buddy 
Chad Ray and Steve and myself go

587
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760
to San Diego having a sick time 
listening to music. 

588
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000
We get a little fleabag motel. 
Wouldn't none of us have any 

589
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,440
money and we get the cheapest. 
So they're playing the Atlanta 

590
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Braves, right? 
So got it. 

591
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,680
It was a maybe say like a 
Wednesday night and we get there

592
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,960
was and we get 5. 
This is where the Chargers used 

593
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,920
to play football at Qualcomm. 
All right, so we again, we have 

594
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,640
the money. 
We get $5 seats behind home 

595
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,000
plate of like in the second 
level, like the football, maybe 

596
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160
even 3rd, 5 bucks and just 
banging back beers, going nuts, 

597
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,600
whatever. 
And then Lord knows what we did 

598
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,360
that night. 
The next day they're playing a 

599
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,560
double header against against 
the Braves and Maddox is 

600
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,480
pitching and I think, I think I 
haven't got the second start. 

601
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,760
I actually got a baseball from 
Greg Maddox, but that's not the 

602
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,600
story. 
So the first night. 

603
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Now the whole purpose of the 
trip is to go to San Diego to 

604
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,280
see Tony Gwynn swing a bat in 
person because aside from Ted 

605
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Williams, he's the most gifted, 
skilled tech like technician and

606
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,560
surgeon to ever touch a piece of
wood and try to hit a spherical 

607
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,600
object. 
Me, I got to see Tony hit. 

608
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,640
So we got a little delayed. 
We were doing whatever we were 

609
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240
doing, and we're in the parking 
lot of Qualcomm and we're 

610
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,240
getting ready to walk into the 
stadium and I hear, oh, God, I'm

611
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,360
here now batting for the Padres 
right fielder Tony Gwynn. 

612
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,240
Oh, my gosh, this is first step 
back. 

613
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Come on. 
Right. 

614
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,560
So I'm like, shit. 
I was like a little bit annoyed,

615
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,520
but not a big deal right now. 
We settle in, we get another 

616
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,720
beer. 
We go up to the upper deck 

617
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,880
behind a plate again. 
Short story long, somebody hits 

618
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,200
a ball down the right field 
line. 

619
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,040
He's chasing it, pulls his 
hamstring. 

620
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480
He's out for a month and a half.
I never get to see him hit. 

621
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,000
I never. 
Got Oh my gosh. 

622
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Yes, the one at bat. 
When I went, I was in the 

623
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,360
parking lot walking into the 
stadium and then when we get in 

624
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,040
there, I see him make a 
defensive play. 

625
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,880
He comes up limping and he's 
gone. 

626
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,240
I think he missed like a month 
or two. 

627
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Like it was, it was kind of a 
serious. 

628
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,120
That is insane dude. 
That's the last time I was in 

629
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,440
San Diego. 
That's the last time. 

630
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Well, let's hope for some better
luck this time, alright? 

631
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,960
Yeah, yeah. 
Listen, I'll do this more a 

632
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,160
little bit tomorrow. 
But, you know, you look at the 

633
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,040
match up here, Northern Northern
Iowa is a is an interesting one.

634
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,560
You know, I mean, listen, St. 
John's, St. 

635
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,040
John's obviously supposed to win
this. 

636
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,960
I saw their 10 1/2 point 
favorites. 

637
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,280
I don't get too wrapped up in 
that number one, because I call 

638
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,280
the games and I would never 
touch that stuff doing games 

639
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,560
that I call. 
But you know, spreads in the 

640
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,720
NCAA tournament don't mean a 
whole lot to me, all right, 

641
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Because I've seen St. 
John's offense in the half court

642
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,000
struggle enough to know that, 
you know, if it's the wrong 

643
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,480
night and the other teams 
banging in triples and you know,

644
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,920
and it's a bad match up in terms
of style. 

645
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,440
I'm not even saying that it is, 
but you take nothing for 

646
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,080
granted. 
So it's going to be a tough 

647
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440
battle and they're a buttoned up
defensive team and they're going

648
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,240
to talk about Northern, Northern
Iowa and they're going to look 

649
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,600
to take the air out of the ball 
and St. 

650
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480
John's wants to get up and down 
and play at a good pace. 

651
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
So it is an interesting 
contrast. 

652
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,640
That's the first thing that I 
see. 

653
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160
The next thing that I see would 
be if St. 

654
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
John's is able to win that first
game, and they should. 

655
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,640
Now you got to go through Kansas
and that's where Zooby was. 

656
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,480
So and, and they always do this 
stuff, like they always try to 

657
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,320
look for stories and try to make
it like cute and like, oh, 

658
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,400
remember this coach, this 
rivalry here and hey, if this 

659
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,200
team advances and that team 
advances, oh, remember when this

660
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,520
happened back in the day? 
I actually kind of like that 

661
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
they do that. 
And I think Kansas is, is 

662
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,400
beatable. 
I think St. 

663
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200
John's is actually better than 
Kansas. 

664
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,840
That doesn't mean they're going 
to win doesn't mean Kansas is 

665
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,080
going to win their match up, but
it it does equate to some real 

666
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,160
theater and it's an absolute 
beast of of a region, which we 

667
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,280
get into a little bit 
afterwards. 

668
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,840
Are three Bernie questions 
coming up in a bit. 

669
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Not yet, you know, and then you 
just look at this magical ride 

670
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,960
and it it really it it's 
amazing. 

671
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,560
I, I was going to make the other
day during, I guess this would 

672
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,840
have been during the Seton Hall 
game. 

673
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400
I think on the air. 
I, I found the stat. 

674
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,840
I didn't, I don't even know who 
found it. 

675
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Otherwise I would give them 
credit. 

676
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:17,120
St. 
John's is 42 and four in Big E's

677
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,080
play under Rick Pitino, like in 
their last 46 something crazy. 

678
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,920
I mean, it's just it's amazing 
what this guy's done and how 

679
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,560
fast he's done it. 
Who do you like in the Final 

680
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000
Four in regards to in regards to
baseball? 

681
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Any chance of the Subway Series 
watch party? 

682
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Willie? 
I appreciate that. 

683
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,440
But, yeah, two very different 
things. 

684
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
I'll do the Final Four stuff. 
I'll give you that tomorrow. 

685
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,440
I want to let it breathe a 
little bit. 

686
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,360
I can't come out and fire all 
the bullets today. 

687
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Take it easy. 
I will get there. 

688
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,120
I promise you will be. 
And thank you for that good 

689
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,160
super chat. 
Thank you. 

690
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Yeah. 
Subway Series watch party. 

691
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Matter of fact, we're working on
something now. 

692
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
I remember talking to Sal about 
this. 

693
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,040
I asked him if he was free and 
he is. 

694
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,320
So it hasn't come to fruition in
terms of the contract yet. 

695
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,720
So I'm not going to announce 
anything. 

696
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400
I think there's a good chance it
will happen where it will be me 

697
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,880
and Sam at an awesome spot in 
New Jersey right now. 

698
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,160
It's supposed to be that Friday 
that the first Friday of the 

699
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Subway Series. 
But again, no contracts signed. 

700
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680
I'd say we're inside the 20. 
Like we're just getting inside 

701
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,000
the red zone. 
I think it's going to happen, 

702
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,400
but I'm not going to put 
business out there if it's not. 

703
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Some of you think I'm nuts and 
and that's fine because it's 

704
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,520
subjective that that's that's 
fine. 

705
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,040
But like one thing I have to, I 
just really, I got to call 

706
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:42,440
people out not by name, but some
of you are such shallow thinkers

707
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,360
that it's really, it's actually 
pathetic. 

708
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,960
What do you mean by that? 
I'll tell you so when you put a 

709
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,160
tweet out there and I'll read 
some of the comments, I really 

710
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,440
don't care. 
Sometimes I'll read. 

711
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320
I will. 
I really don't care. 

712
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,280
Anything that's natively written
about me. 

713
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Don't care. 
I used to. 

714
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,720
I fully transparent with that. 
It used to bother me. 

715
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,360
Doesn't matter at all. 
Don't care, don't care. 

716
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,800
Love the support, appreciate the
support, the haters. 

717
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,840
It's fuel. 
It's all good. 

718
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,440
Some people get personal. 
I just keep it moving, never 

719
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,080
respond, whatever. 
I'm not even talking about that.

720
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,719
I'm talking about people who 
seemingly lack the intellect, 

721
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,920
the ability to have depth in 
their mind to process something 

722
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,480
that I write and I I might be 
pretty convoluted with some of 

723
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,120
the stories I tell short story 
long, I'll give you that terms 

724
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,239
of writing. 
I mean, I'm pretty freaking 

725
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,880
succinct. 
It's very rare that you don't 

726
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,440
know what I mean when I write 
like that, That's that I could 

727
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
do that in my sleep and 
commutative thought. 

728
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,360
And yet some of you bozos still 
don't understand it. 

729
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520
I'm I'm kidding, but you just 
don't. 

730
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,400
So when I put a tweet out like 
Rick Pitino's the greatest head 

731
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,719
coach in the history of college 
basketball, which by the way, I 

732
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,040
believe it's, it's fine to 
refute that. 

733
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,760
Of course, it's subjective. 
There's a lot of other names. 

734
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,120
What about John Wooden? 
What about Adolf Rupp at 

735
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,880
Kentucky? 
What about, let's say, Jim 

736
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Calhoun at UConn with three 
championships? 

737
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,880
What about Coach K? 
Obviously. 

738
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,480
What about Bobby Knight, perfect
season back in 76, the great 

739
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,640
team with Steve Alford? 
I understand. 

740
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,440
I get it. 
I'm not saying my answer is 

741
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,200
right, but the response is this 
is the shallowness that drives 

742
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,440
me insane. 
Coach K's got more wins. 

743
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,480
No shit he's got more wins. 
Like the bottom line assessment 

744
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,080
by some of you, it really it I, 
I just it's annoying. 

745
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,960
It's it annoys me because you 
are some of you, not all of you.

746
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,360
Some of you are unable to just 
get past the first little speed 

747
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,800
bump and have an intelligent 
dissection of a topic where 

748
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,080
there's no right or wrong answer
and actually point to stuff and 

749
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920
incorporate that in your 
pushback. 

750
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,880
Souls goes got more wins. 
Souls goes got more 

751
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,720
championships. 
Dude, wow, you you know what 

752
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:05,440
that limited history you're 
amazing like, and this happens a

753
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,520
lot. 
Aaron Judge is and I believe 

754
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,000
this, but it doesn't mean that 
that I'm right. 

755
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,240
Aaron Judge is the greatest 
baseball player that I've ever 

756
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:13,320
seen. 
No World Series. 

757
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,160
He can't pay. 
He's not what like the inability

758
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,000
to separate certain things? 
Is it it? 

759
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,960
It really is. 
It's actually sad. 

760
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,960
So anyway, just had to get that 
out there. 

761
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Now, I'll tell you why Rick 
Pitino is the greatest college 

762
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,920
coach in the history of college 
basketball. 

763
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,360
Now, first, let's take a little 
history lesson here. 

764
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,960
And when you do stuff like this,
and I said this with the Hall of

765
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,560
Fame that came up the other day 
on the show, like invariably you

766
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,760
wind up denigrating others. 
And that's not my intention. 

767
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,200
I'm not to to elevate. 
I'm going to tell you why I 

768
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,920
believe Rick is that guy, but 
I'm not it's not going to like, 

769
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,480
oh, let me take a shot at Wooden
to tear him back or Coach K. 

770
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,880
No, I'm going to provide some 
context here. 

771
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Would you please understand one 
thing that John wouldn't want as

772
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,000
much as that? 
I mean, John wouldn't the 

773
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,600
ultimate winner. 
You know, I know all the 

774
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,680
numbers. 
Trust me. 

775
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,320
I know that Coach KS got more 
wins. 

776
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,640
I know, I know, I know John 
Wooden. 

777
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,640
But John Wooden did it clean. 
John Wooden had a money man. 

778
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,960
John. 
UCLA used to pay people. 

779
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,840
Look it up. 
All right, They did like this. 

780
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,360
This thought that it was the 
cleanest operation. 

781
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,560
They just got the best players 
and they had this tremendous 

782
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,040
connectivity. 
And John Wooden was the greatest

783
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,640
strategist and the greatest 
motivator in the history of 

784
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,040
college basketball. 
He had Lou Alcindor. 

785
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,280
Yeah. 
Bill Walton. 

786
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,080
All right, That's not the take 
away from them because he got 

787
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,040
them. 
They had the money, man. 

788
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,880
All right, Coach K phenomenal 
dude, phenomenal. 

789
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,920
Jim Calhoun. 
If I got to win one game, 

790
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,840
honestly, if I can't pick 
Pitino, I really might pick Jim 

791
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,960
Calhoun because I knew that they
were tough and good and he's a 

792
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,320
great coach and they were going 
to be ready, right? 

793
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Coach K outside of Army with all
theirs, I love West Point. 

794
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560
You know that coached at one 
spot. 

795
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,920
See, to me, greatness is also 
about being adaptable and 

796
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,920
transforming and changing with 
the times. 

797
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,680
So let me just take out a little
journey. 

798
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Rick Petit. 
I'm not going to even get into 

799
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,120
Boston University and Rick did 
great things there as well. 

800
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,280
But and respect to be you the 
terriers, but I got to start a 

801
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
little bit after that. 
So when he goes to Providence, 

802
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,520
the three-point shot is 
introduced. 

803
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,800
Everybody's like that's that's 
that's not a successful shot. 

804
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,440
That's not a good high rate of 
efficiency. 

805
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,600
We can't play basketball that 
way. 

806
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,640
We need to dump it into the 
post. 

807
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
I don't know why I always talk 
like that when I'm trying to 

808
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,880
talk like an old coach. 
I don't know why, but I do think

809
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,440
that it's it, it gets the best. 
It's like my antiquated older 

810
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,000
voice that's resistant to 
change. 

811
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,120
I don't know if it works, but 
that's what I do, right? 

812
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,960
No, but we got to sit those down
screens and we got to pump it 

813
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,760
into the big down low. 
Let's go. 5 passes before we 

814
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,600
shoot. 
All right? 

815
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Rick comes out and says, no, I 
got my own math here. 

816
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,200
So we're going to embrace the 
shot and if we miss a bunch, but

817
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,520
we make a couple, that math is 
better than you going for two 

818
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,120
every game. 
So first of all, he was the 

819
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,640
first true pioneer to embrace 
the three-point shot. 

820
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:10,040
Check Now the fact that he's 
done it and I'll just throw BU 

821
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,120
on the table for a minute. 
The fact that he's done it 

822
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,400
basically everywhere, whether 
it's a small school like Big U 

823
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:21,280
BU, whether it's a small ish 
smallish Providence school in a 

824
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,280
monster without comparison at 
that point. 

825
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Best conference by far in the 
world, right? 

826
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,720
Get that team to the final four 
and then go, I'm thinking about 

827
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:33,520
the Celtics and the Knicks, even
though we did very well with the

828
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,720
Knicks. 
But then he goes to Kentucky and

829
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,360
one more inch and the plug would
have been pulled on their 

830
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,760
program and they would have had 
no basketball and they would 

831
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,680
have got the death penalty. 
And he goes and he wins a 

832
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,400
championship. 
He revives them immediately. 

833
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,880
First year, no scholar. 
Like, it's just what he did 

834
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,240
there was insane. 
Then he basically does the same 

835
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,280
at Louisville. 
Then he goes to St. 

836
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
John's, and nobody knows this 
more than me. 

837
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,080
The brand was dead. 
The basketball program, it was 

838
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,480
over. 
It was a wrap. 

839
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,440
The only thing that we had about
St. 

840
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,000
John's was history. 
And I love it, but it gets old. 

841
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,120
Hey, remember when Chris Mullen 
did this? 

842
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360
Yeah, I do. 
I'd like to remember something 

843
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,200
else here. 
I'd like to reference something 

844
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080
else. 
Remember when Walter Berry 

845
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960
blocked Pearl? 
Yep, Yep, I remember. 

846
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,080
I was 11. 
I was in the car, heard my I 

847
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
heard the game with my dad Ron 
Rowan hit the baseline, jump 

848
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560
shot Walter Berry 86 Big East 
championship finally ran down 

849
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,520
the court to play defense and 
swatted pro from behind. 

850
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,840
I remember yes. 
You know, remember when Mark 

851
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,240
Jackson was drafted in the first
round and went to the Knicks and

852
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,640
he was the rookie of the year? 
Yes, I remember. 

853
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,120
It could be. 
I used to have the same Nike 

854
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,440
dunks that Mark had, and we used
to do the same thing in CYO that

855
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,800
he used to do. 
I remember, you know, the late, 

856
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,840
great, love him, Malik Sealy. 
Yes, yes, I remember Malik 

857
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,600
swooping to the hole and look 
like a ballerina, scoring more 

858
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,960
than 2000 points at St. 
John's. 

859
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,640
I remember. 
We all remember, but we also 

860
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,520
remember where St. 
John's went from. 

861
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,840
Every kid had a starter jacket, 
unless you were rocking the 

862
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Hoyas and that was that. 
That's just the way it was. 

863
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,520
And every kid had red and white 
Nike dunks. 

864
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,800
Every kid and everybody wanted 
to be Chris Mullen. 

865
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,360
And everybody loved Louis like 
he was. 

866
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,360
Even if you were Irish, he was 
your grandfather. 

867
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480
That's what it felt like, right?
And then it disappeared. 

868
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,600
Like I can go to Modell's or 
this before, like some of these 

869
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,080
other bit, like did before 
Dick's, go to Modell's, go to 

870
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,880
Herman's and Kings Plaza, get 
Johnny's gear. 

871
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,960
I remember being in Sports 
Authority when I was in college 

872
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,640
looking for a St. 
John's hoodie. 

873
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,720
They're what I saw UConn, I saw 
Duke, I saw Michigan. 

874
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:40,960
I saw everything. 
So Arizona, you know, Mike 

875
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Bibby, Miles Simon, you know, 
Lude Olson in New York, there 

876
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,640
was nothing for St. 
John's. 

877
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,120
And I know that he's been able 
to restore St. 

878
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,960
John's because of the money. 
I get that. 

879
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,680
Understood. 
But Kentucky spent $22 million 

880
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,120
on their roster this year. 
I know Kentucky beat St. 

881
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,120
John's earlier in the year. 
You tell me you had the better 

882
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,040
season. 
St. 

883
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,240
John's or Kentucky St. 
John's, all right. 

884
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:05,480
And all of these different 
things, the adaptability and the

885
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600
embracing early of the 
three-point shot conference 

886
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,000
realignment when he was at 
Louisville, the Big East was one

887
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,320
way, you know, when he was Saint
John's. 

888
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Now it's another way, all right,
Five different schools, the 

889
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,880
portal, the Nils. 
And here's the crazy part about 

890
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,320
Rick Pitino. 
The best thing, I really believe

891
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,280
this, aside from like motivation
and all that stuff, I think that

892
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,080
Rick's greatest trait as a coach
is truly player development. 

893
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,480
And now you've got to do it in a
microwave setting because back 

894
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,920
in the day, like Donovan 
Mitchell, Louisville come in and

895
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,760
bricks told the story. 
His mechanics wasn't really pure

896
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,200
shooter. 
Well, guess what? 

897
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,880
You know, he's not leaving after
one year because he's frustrated

898
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,480
because he didn't play or didn't
play well. 

899
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,520
You know, he's not leaving after
one year because school wise 

900
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,600
going to give him $575,000 more 
than Louisville. 

901
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,200
You know what I mean? 
With the NIL, he's not looking 

902
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,880
to bounce. 
He's staying. 

903
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,320
And when he's in that Rick 
Pitino laboratory every single 

904
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,240
day, look at him now, one of the
best players in the NBA now 

905
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,720
that's because of him and him 
putting the work in. 

906
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480
He said it so I don't I don't 
think I'm I'm out of school 

907
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,960
saying it Without Rick Pitino, 
he's not this good because he 

908
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,120
showed him the way. 
And without Rick Pitino, Zubi is

909
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,560
not this good. 
Just not. 

910
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,320
He averaged 2 1/2 points a game.
But Kansas didn't play. 

911
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,840
Bill Self looked at him like, 
you know, I got AI, got a good 

912
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,360
athlete at the end of the bench,
69, could run, could jump. 

913
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,160
He ain't playing much for me. 
Instead, he goes down as an 

914
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,360
icon, a Titan of the St. 
John's basketball program #1 

915
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,480
because Zooby put the work in. 
But Rick showed him that the 

916
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,840
like, the requisite work that 
you got to put in. 

917
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,400
So for me, and I can't prove 
this like if John Wooden, if if 

918
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,200
John Wooden was transported to 
college basketball today with 

919
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,800
this, whatever his ultimate 
skill set was, the things that 

920
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,840
he was best at right probably 
organization, team structure. 

921
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,160
I'm I'm just guessing, but I 
think and I've read his book. 

922
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,320
So that is part of it. 
The period of of of success. 

923
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,240
It's it's phenomenal the those 
are transferable, but would they

924
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:14,920
be as successful with guys 
leaving for more money and the 

925
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,920
different conference? 
Like my answer is is probably 

926
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,200
no. 
And I know that Rick Pitino has 

927
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,720
done it. 
So that's why I think Rick is 

928
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,400
the best coach of all time. 
I really do Jay Rod, you want to

929
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,200
pop in for a SEC? 
I don't need you to push back. 

930
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,280
But you are a big college 
basketball fan. 

931
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,280
You don't have to stamp that a 
yes or a no. 

932
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,680
But I'm, I'm curious as you hear
that, what do you think? 

933
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,880
No, I mean, I think I like your 
take and I think it's a pretty 

934
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480
unique take. 
I think, you know, yours is very

935
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,400
much built upon. 
Obviously, you know, you always 

936
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,680
say this about Pitino, the 
adaptability sort of approach 

937
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,720
and that sort of switching, 
switching teams and and finding 

938
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,280
greatness wherever he goes. 
And I think I think that's a 

939
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,840
great point compared to like a 
lot of the guys, guys like a 

940
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,840
Bayheim, a Coach K Ashevsky, 
where you really look at them 

941
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,800
for, you know, they're one great
run with a single team that 

942
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,120
maybe it consisted of one or 
potentially multiple national 

943
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,280
championships, but they only 
really did it with one place. 

944
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,720
And yeah, I mean, for me, like, 
I don't know, you Revere a guy 

945
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,160
like Bayheim, but you also look 
at some of the later years and 

946
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,400
you go, I mean, they were a 
little disappointing so. 

947
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,280
A little. 
A lottle. 

948
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,920
A lottle. 
I. 

949
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,600
Mean, especially, especially 
just like my you know, my first 

950
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,520
couple of years at the school 
were God awful. 

951
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,280
Like, I mean, it was, you know, 
his last season was the year I 

952
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,960
think with, I mean, and with but
what I think the last season was

953
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,800
the season. 
After with Joe. 

954
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,400
Gerard and Kadari Richmond and 
JJ Starling's. 

955
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,720
First season potentially, yeah. 
I. 

956
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Remember that team well? 
Brutal. 

957
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,720
And then Kadari Richmond went. 
The Saint John's got a little 

958
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,240
better the seat. 
First he went to Seat Hall. 

959
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Oh, really? 
So he did. 

960
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,400
He went the double transfer. 
I did not know. 

961
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,320
That within the conference. 
Because yeah, I was on, I was on

962
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,400
Facebook the other day and Saint
John's Richmond Jersey popped up

963
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,640
and I was like, oh, he'll get 
it. 

964
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,560
But yeah, no, I mean, Pitino 
obviously great. 

965
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,080
And again, only, only celebrity 
I've met in New York, so I'll 

966
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,440
keep singing his praises. 
There you go, there you go. 

967
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,840
What time you know, let's it's 
about time I want to get to the 

968
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,760
WF and stuff that that Joe 
Beningo said last week. 

969
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,760
We'll get to that. 
First up though, it is it's a 

970
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,240
Monday, obviously time for 
little three Bernie questions. 

971
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,920
There it is. 
Jay Rod, of course, 14 by my 

972
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,200
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Propane. 

973
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,760
Sullivan Propane is one of New 
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974
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,400
firms, according to U.S. news 
and World Report. 

975
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,760
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York City Firefighters Union for

976
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,720
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977
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,080
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Propane is New York's team 

978
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fighting for New Yorkers for 
more than 100 years. 

979
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,520
You could find 
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980
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,400
That's trial law. 
One dot com Remember the name 

981
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Sullivan Payne, of course, shout
out to my good buddy TJ McManus.

982
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,360
The entire the entire firm over 
there at Sullivan. 

983
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,720
All right, this is going to be 
an NCAA basketball theme here. 

984
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:15,760
Burning questions up first 
number one number one, we get 

985
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,240
the snow blowing. 
Number one. 

986
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:18,760
You ready? 
All right, here we go. 

987
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,680
Which region is the toughest 
headed into the NCAA tournament?

988
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,680
This one. 
This is the easiest one that 

989
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,400
we've had so far on the show. 
I mean, without question, it is 

990
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,440
the East region. 
Listen to these names. 

991
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,000
You got Duke, you got Kansas, 
you got Saint John's, you got 

992
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Michigan State, they got UCLA. 
Oh, yeah, by the way, you've got

993
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,760
UConn as a two seed. 
And look at these coach. 

994
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,960
I mean, listen, yes, it it 
possibly complicates Saint 

995
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,400
John's, Saint John's world, 
which is what matters. 

996
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,360
Even independent of that. 
I swear, like forget about that 

997
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,600
for a moment. 
I just think that the NCAA did a

998
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,960
horrendous job of a really 
spreading out these Titans of 

999
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,120
coaches and programs and blue 
bloods. 

1000
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,960
You should have spread it out a 
little bit more. 

1001
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,720
Think about this guy Pitino. 
Hall of Famer Billy Self, Hall 

1002
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:11,120
of Famer Tom Izzo, Hall of Famer
Danny Hurley, 2 national 

1003
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,760
championships, obviously going 
to be Hall of Famer Mick Ronan 

1004
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:21,920
has over 500 wins, 526 wins, D1.
You got John Shire, Duke, who is

1005
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,640
who's got 121 wins. 
That's the most in four years in

1006
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,320
the history of major, you know, 
of major Division One 

1007
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,520
basketball. 
So I mean, it is a gauntlet bro.

1008
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,520
It is going to be brutal. 
The fan bases are going to be 

1009
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,200
rabid. 
It's going to be an absolute 

1010
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,200
scene. 
So that one to me is simple. 

1011
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,160
All right #2 what's a staple 
here of March Madness? 

1012
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,000
Little Cinderella time. 
Cinderella cut it up one time. 

1013
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,520
You don't know that song, that J
Rod. 

1014
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,480
All right, so which Cinderella 
team is poised to make the most 

1015
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,720
noise in March Madness? 
Well, I got a couple that I was 

1016
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,560
thinking about. 
You know, some of these teams 

1017
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,720
I've seen play, some I have not,
to be fair. 

1018
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,600
But obviously doing some 
research, South Florida's 

1019
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,200
thought to be a bit of a tricky.
The Bulls in 11 seed. 

1020
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Obviously VCU, they've got some 
veterans. 

1021
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,800
It's a pretty good program. 
They're an 11 seed as well. 

1022
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,480
And I want to keep an eye on 
like Troy, they've had a good 

1023
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,840
year. 
And Santa Clara as well. 

1024
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,840
Where Steve, I'm going to 
actually go though, my choice 

1025
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,520
here is the University of Akron,
the Zips who are 12. 

1026
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,960
And let's face it, what's the 
what's the trickiest one of all 

1027
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,880
the all the matchups in the 
first round, Usually that 512 

1028
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,800
matchup, which is what St. 
John's is looking at anyway. 

1029
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,360
They are only 7 point dogs 
against number against 5C Texas 

1030
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Tech, Texas Tech top and 
obviously is out that that hurts

1031
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,720
them. 
And the last five games, or 

1032
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:45,000
though they lost five games, I'm
sorry, the Zips did. 

1033
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:48,240
And all five were the teams that
are going to the tournament 

1034
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,240
here. 
So they had a tough schedule. 

1035
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,040
They competed and they've got a 
top 15 national offense. 

1036
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,360
So, you know, you throw out the 
fact that they're pretty good 

1037
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,520
and they could shoot it. 
They're a three-point shooting 

1038
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,000
team. 
That's an equalizer. 

1039
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,840
Texas Tech, their best players 
out and they played some good 

1040
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,200
teams along the way. 
That could be a little tricky. 

1041
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:12,360
All right #3J Rod, what do you 
have #3 who #3 Here we go. 

1042
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,680
Who are the three greatest 
players in the history of 

1043
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,840
college basketball? 
And we could do 9 hours on this.

1044
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,400
Wow. 
All right. 

1045
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,680
Now generally with stuff like 
when I did the Yankees and the 

1046
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,400
Mets lineup, their their all 
time lineup, I did post 80 for a

1047
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,160
reason because I wanted to keep 
it the players that I've seen 

1048
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,880
with my own eyes. 
So you know, like DiMaggio and 

1049
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,480
Mantle and Ruth and all the 
Yankee greats. 

1050
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,760
And obviously if I did the 
pitching staff, I wouldn't, even

1051
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,000
though I did see older Sieber, I
didn't see vintage Seaver. 

1052
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,800
Anyway, I'm going to kind of 
break my own rule here because 

1053
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,160
it's so well chronicled and so 
documented the Titans of college

1054
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,280
basketball that I'm going to do 
it. 

1055
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,120
And there's two that I've never 
seen play and there's one that I

1056
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,240
obviously did. 
First of all, there's only one 

1057
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,080
answer for number one, that's 
Lou Alcindor. 

1058
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,120
I mean, that's it. 
All right. 

1059
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,200
So he's at UCLA from 66 to 69, 
Three time national champ, 

1060
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,040
freshman couldn't even play. 
Freshman were not allowed to 

1061
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,800
play varsity. 
He was a two time AP player of 

1062
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,040
the year. 
And Oh yeah, bye. 

1063
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Because it was a little bit too 
easy for him. 

1064
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,480
They outlawed the dunk in 
college back. 

1065
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,720
I mean, didn't these dudes want 
to have any fun? 

1066
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,920
Like imagine sitting around in a
room and actually coming up with

1067
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,280
the rule or the thought, you 
know, guys, what might be good 

1068
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,320
for the growth of the game? 
Let's eliminate the dunk. 

1069
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:26,840
I mean, what dopes came up with 
that? 

1070
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,960
All right #2 I mean, I've seen 
the footage. 

1071
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,360
We know the tails, we know the 
legacy. 

1072
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,320
It's got to be Pistol Pete 
Maravich. 

1073
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,640
It's got to be. 
So. 

1074
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:42,040
Pistol Pete played for his pops 
at LSU 1967 through 1970. 

1075
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,520
Check this out now, Jay Rod, 
keep this up on the screen by 

1076
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,920
Jay Rod. 
I want you to pay attention to 

1077
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,720
this man. 
He averaged, thank you, 44. 

1078
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,760
That's a good student right 
there, boy. 44.2 points per game

1079
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,320
all right 40 he averaged 44.2 
What? 

1080
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,640
He. 
Yeah, but here's the craziest 

1081
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,560
part. 
There was No 3 point shot. 

1082
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:06,400
Dude, so this guy was just 
putting up like 20-30 shots a 

1083
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,440
game. 
And but he was efficient too. 

1084
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,480
There was somebody, I, I don't 
have it obviously in front of 

1085
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
me. 
Somebody went back and I don't 

1086
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,760
know if it was every game 
because I don't know what was 

1087
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,200
documentable from his early days
at LSU, although I mean, it's 

1088
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,400
not the 1930s. 
They I think they had a most of 

1089
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960
it in the late 60s. 
Somebody went back and they 

1090
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,920
actually measured like the jump 
shots that he hit. 

1091
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,480
Yeah, Yeah. 
And if they were to attach the 

1092
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,440
extra point value there, then 
the number was like he would 

1093
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,360
have averaged like 51 1/2 points
a game. 

1094
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Yes. 
So are you shooting? 

1095
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,360
So he was shooting. 
Long range. 

1096
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Oh yeah, no, he was a guard, 
bro. 

1097
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,320
He was a he. 
And, and the thing about Pistol 

1098
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,400
P is that he played like he was 
on the schoolyard #1 for a white

1099
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,880
kid to do that back, you know, 
at really ever that that's still

1100
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,880
kind of rare, although less 
rare, but certainly back then. 

1101
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,480
And for anybody, you know, Oscar
Robertson had flair and at 

1102
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,920
Cincinnati and some others as 
well. 

1103
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,080
But to like, play that way in 
the late 60s was almost like 

1104
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,840
counterculture, like, you know 
what I mean? 

1105
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,320
Like just wasn't, well, you know
what I mean, of the old heads. 

1106
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,120
All right, Number one, I've seen
this player play now I think 

1107
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,560
that this will get some pushback
here. 

1108
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,840
I'm going Christian Leitner. 
I'm going to go with Christian 

1109
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,800
Leitner, Duke from 88 to 92. 
And this is when the game was 

1110
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,120
getting, I believe, tougher and 
tougher because now you got 

1111
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,320
obviously UCLA was a power out 
West, but Arizona out there with

1112
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,800
Ludo Olson and those great teams
and and obviously the East and 

1113
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,360
the Big East and the ACC was a 
monster back then. 

1114
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,480
So you got a two time national 
champion, a winner and also now 

1115
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,640
in hindsight, it's like, God, 
how the hell was this guy on the

1116
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Dream Team? 
But he was on the 92 Dream Team 

1117
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,800
for a reason. 
Now he didn't do anything. 

1118
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,120
You could get that off the 
screen. 

1119
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,440
Thank you very much there, J 
Rod. 

1120
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,720
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1121
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:56,880
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1122
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,320
Remember the name Sullivan 
Propane. 

1123
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,240
It's, you know, he was on the 
team and you know, some people 

1124
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,200
have said, well, let's throw the
token white guy on the team. 

1125
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,600
I don't think that that was it 
because you had Chris Mullen, 

1126
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,400
you had John Stockton. 
So it wasn't that I I really 

1127
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,440
think it was recognizing his 
place in the history of college 

1128
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,240
basketball and also thinking 
that he was going to be a great 

1129
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:21,120
pro. 
What was he taking third overall

1130
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,440
by the T Wolves? 
And he was third and he wanted 

1131
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,560
to become a pretty serviceable 
NBA player. 

1132
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:32,160
But I remember and he had the 
the headband on and like the 

1133
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,760
floppy hair, you know, looked 
like the j.crew model. 

1134
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,000
And I'm like, God, this guy and 
I, I never hated Duke. 

1135
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,280
Like something like you, you 
either love Duke or or hate 

1136
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,400
Duke. 
I I was fairly not apathetic, 

1137
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,400
but I enjoy watching Duke play, 
certainly with Hurley and Grant 

1138
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Hill and those teams and 
Leighton and Coach K. 

1139
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,480
What? 
But he was, I think he was 

1140
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,440
inarguably the most despised 
college player of all time, 

1141
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,080
maybe JJ Redick or Grayson 
Allen. 

1142
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,520
It's always like the white kid 
from Duke. 

1143
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,920
People hate because there's a 
thought that they're spoiled and

1144
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,440
and whatever, you know? 
But actually, he came up in a 

1145
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,320
very blue collar. 
He's from, I think he's like 

1146
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,520
right from, I think it's Troy, 
NY, if I'm not mistaken, blue 

1147
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,280
collar not far from Syracuse, 
all the way up there cold. 

1148
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,600
His mom was a teacher, you know,
had a couple of brothers. 

1149
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,880
He used to beat the shit out of 
each other like traditional 

1150
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,040
laters, you know, was a dog. 
So those are my answers. 

1151
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,880
You know, again, obviously you 
can, you can you can say that 

1152
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,200
that's crazy. 
Nobody could say Lou Alcindor at

1153
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,680
one is crazy. 
I think if you really try to 

1154
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,400
respect the the annals of the 
game and the history of the 

1155
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,320
game, I think it maybe you maybe
want to say Bill Walton. 

1156
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,880
All right, I thought about Bill,
but to me, Pistol Pete, I had to

1157
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,240
put him too. 
Yeah. 

1158
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,960
And then late #3 for the winning
and for all the things that I 

1159
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,400
just said. 
I'm going to put him on the list

1160
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,160
there. 
Jay, if I said to you now, 

1161
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,760
obviously you're a young buck 
here, greatest, greatest college

1162
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,200
basketball player that you ever 
saw. 

1163
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,200
And before you answer that. 
That I ever. 

1164
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:04,280
That you that you ever saw. 
It's going to be a crazy take. 

1165
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,800
OK, Zion. 
Oh wow. 

1166
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,880
Yeah, I think so. 
It's, I mean, he was insane that

1167
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,480
season. 
He was pretty great. 

1168
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,320
I mean, the highlights were 
there, the stats were there. 

1169
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:22,320
I think it just really shows 
how, you know, I how short of a 

1170
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,760
period of like real college 
hoops I've had to watch, like 

1171
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,040
when Zion's the best dude I've 
watched. 

1172
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,360
But obviously he was a great 
college basketball player. 

1173
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,560
So absolutely phenomenal. 
There's no doubt about that. 

1174
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,160
You know the thing, too, I'll 
give you a name that's great and

1175
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,000
he's not one of the top three. 
But now we're just kind of 

1176
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,680
throwing names. 
How about Jim or Fredette at 

1177
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,080
BYU? 
He was great. 

1178
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,240
He. 
Was banging 35 and and Reddick I

1179
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,360
mean he's there you got to throw
these names out there see the 

1180
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,160
the challenge with this and it 
just is what it is it's a 

1181
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,680
byproduct of modern college 
basketball like we have the 

1182
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,760
ability and you know Ewing 
somebody like Patrick Ewing for 

1183
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,640
me somebody like Chris Mullen 
for me a couple of player Tim 

1184
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,880
Duncan in the ACC with with Wake
Forest. 

1185
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,760
There's obviously a ton. 
I mean, I, I again, I could do 

1186
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,240
this for hours here, but the 
challenge now is that like, 

1187
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:08,320
imagine if Zion would have 
stayed at Duke for four years, 

1188
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,240
or even 3. 
One, you know, he might, you 

1189
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:15,280
know, he may have a bit even 
bigger NBA contract looking at 

1190
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,000
it now, like if he, you know, if
he got that time to develop and 

1191
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,560
maybe got his health a little 
bit more in check, who knows 

1192
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
what he could be looking like. 
But it could also be one of 

1193
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,200
those circumstances where he 
made the right decision. 

1194
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,680
He got that big first overall 
contract. 

1195
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,320
He got the gag there. 
Yeah. 

1196
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,800
And, you know, he he's gonna 
keep making money. 

1197
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,160
He's not gonna be on a vet 
minimum for no I I I I. 

1198
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Yeah, like, but when you come 
out at that age, J, that's why a

1199
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,760
lot, you know, that's why the 
NBA wrath is really, it's really

1200
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,840
a turn off. 
I get it. 

1201
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,320
It's the it's the way of doing 
business now. 

1202
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,360
But a lot of these kids, you're 
drafting somebody at the age of 

1203
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,680
19 or 20 and you know, you 
understand they're going to go 

1204
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,040
to a bad team to start and 
they're going to be surrounded 

1205
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,760
by a fairly inefficient team. 
Probably have a couple of 

1206
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,320
coaches by the time that player 
gets four or five. 

1207
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,760
But they get that second bag 
when they're like 2425. 

1208
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,600
And that's where you have a 
chance to make $8 billion as 

1209
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,440
these exorbitant contracts 
skyrocket. 

1210
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,680
You got guys making 70 a year. 
It's going to only go up and up 

1211
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,720
and up. 
But think about like, and again,

1212
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,240
I'm just throwing names at 
because it's fun. 

1213
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Think about Albert Iverson, what
he would have looked like if he 

1214
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,520
was at Georgetown for four 
years, right? 

1215
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,680
Come on. 
Or you know, even Ray Allen for 

1216
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,880
four years at UConn. 
It's, it's, it's, it's crazy to 

1217
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,720
think about that. 
And they do get penalized a 

1218
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,280
little bit in terms of that 
history because anytime you 

1219
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,600
pull, you pull up a name from 
the past, It's a little, it's a 

1220
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,920
it's a comet that's shooting 
across the sky. 

1221
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,960
And you're trying to, you know, 
you're, you're reacting to what 

1222
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,240
you saw, but you're also trying 
to piece together in your mind 

1223
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,400
like what would they have been 
compared to Alcindor or Walton 

1224
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,040
or Layton or guys like that. 
So good stuff. 

1225
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,080
I pop a couple. 
I'm going to get to the Beningo 

1226
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,240
stuff in a minute. 
Pop a couple of texts up here. 

1227
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,520
Dear Rod, can you do that for? 
Me. 

1228
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,360
Let's see. 
Hey, BT yeah, N 50 the same time

1229
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,680
as John Rothstein. 
This NCAA MBB recall and 

1230
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,480
knowledge is one-of-a-kind. 
I know John very well. 

1231
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,600
I absolutely love John. 
John Rothstein's great guy. 

1232
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,640
He's absolutely out of his mind.
He is a nut job. 

1233
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,600
He is. 
He is crazy in terms of what he 

1234
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,160
knows. 
And yes, I was at 10:50 When 

1235
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,400
when So John one, we did this 
thing. 

1236
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,680
This is what now not not about 
John here because John, he 

1237
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,360
really is what he know. 
I don't think I don't know. 

1238
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,520
I don't know anybody that knows 
more about college basketball 

1239
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,640
than him. 
I mean, nobody, yeah, even 

1240
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,520
somebody like Fanta who is 
phenomenal as very different and

1241
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,200
I love that. 
So John think at the Garden the 

1242
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,880
other night. 
Great. 

1243
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,400
I'm so happy for him. 
Great dude. 

1244
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,760
I actually I'm going to get him 
on the show. 

1245
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,160
We we connected, we got numbers 
there. 

1246
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,200
So we'll get John up and John 
Panther up at some point. 

1247
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,240
And but he's different. 
He knows like all the but no 

1248
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,080
doubt he is very well versed, 
but like John Rothstein, it's 

1249
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:56,960
frightening where he will say I 
don't know something like, you 

1250
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:02,080
know, 1991 E regional Sweet 16 
match up. 

1251
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,440
So when I don't know, I just I 
don't even know name to throw 

1252
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,000
out a minute and 9 seconds left.
He hit a 22 footer like it's 

1253
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,800
crazy. 
His recall's insane to the 

1254
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,160
point. 
So when we're at 10:50, you 

1255
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,000
know, because we didn't have a 
good signal, that's when 

1256
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,480
obviously Kay was there, Donnie 
was there, I was there, Stephen 

1257
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,640
A was there. 
That was right before Max got 

1258
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,760
there. 
We had a really good lineup, 

1259
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,760
good roster, but nobody could 
hear us because the signal was 

1260
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,480
awful and we were trying to do 
things which I get to try to 

1261
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,640
stand out a little bit. 
So if you remember on ESPNTV 

1262
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,640
there was this thing called 
ESPESPN Dream job and a couple 

1263
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,800
of sportscasters wound up 
winning and then they went up to

1264
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,560
they wound up going like the 
ESPN 2 or ESPN news. 

1265
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,920
What whatever it was, I don't 
even know. 

1266
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,200
So so we did our radio version 
and Rothstein won, right? 

1267
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,680
And then he started doing like 
updates during some of the shows

1268
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,560
and he did a lot on my show. 
And I just love the guy because,

1269
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,440
you know, talking college hoops 
and, you know, I talk about 

1270
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,520
family and it just, I know John 
really well. 

1271
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,480
And there was one point, though,
because then we would get him on

1272
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,880
to breakdown like on a day like 
today, you know, like, if this 

1273
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,240
was the old days, he would have 
been on my show, right? 

1274
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,200
And the guy runs through the 
bracket and I finally had to 

1275
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,440
tell him I'm like John. 
I, I, I don't even care about 

1276
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,760
the 7th man on Northern Iowa. 
I don't care. 

1277
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,880
I nobody, nobody cares except 
you and the Northern Iowa fans. 

1278
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,960
You got to. 
You got to stop. 

1279
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,600
Hitting us? 
We've got breaking news. 

1280
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,800
What do we? 
Got Is it good? 

1281
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:33,120
What do we got? 
Nets, We've got Justin Fields 

1282
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,480
traded to the Chiefs. 
Justin Fields traded to the 

1283
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,480
Chiefs. 
Just what the hell did they get 

1284
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,520
for him? 
It's got to be a 7th rounder. 

1285
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,800
2027 sixth round pick there you.
Go see ya. 

1286
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,400
All right. 
Good job, Mooji. 

1287
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,560
There we go. 
What? 

1288
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:51,680
The hell are they going to do 
with them? 

1289
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,320
They're going to play 
quarterback. 

1290
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,040
You know, there was a thought he
was going to turn into running 

1291
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,080
back. 
All right, so listen, I didn't 

1292
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,880
know what was coming at me. 
First of all, it sounds like 

1293
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,440
we're getting bombed when we 
hear that. 

1294
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,000
Let's go. 
Oh my God, we could take cover 

1295
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,080
here, the sports radio shelter. 
All right, You know, I'm not 

1296
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,280
going to stick with it too much 
because it is a a late round 

1297
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,040
pick. 
But this is where you have to 

1298
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,200
feel good about Darren Mooji. 
You just have to, you have to. 

1299
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,440
I don't know what Glenn's going 
to be, but Mooji's the man and 

1300
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:25,760
Mooji's the real deal because #1
he is aggressive #2 he isn't 

1301
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,760
doubled down on his mistakes. 
Like he comes in year 1, is in 

1302
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,280
GM AG, one years at first years 
head coach. 

1303
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,600
They knew they had to change the
quarterback situation. 

1304
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,680
There was some some evidence in 
in Pittsburgh and even a little 

1305
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,960
bit at the end in Chicago. 
All right, Justin Fields getting

1306
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,000
a little bit better than a 
little bit. 

1307
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,160
And this is documentable because
I've done it. 

1308
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,640
You know, a little uptick in 
stats, completion percentage up 

1309
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,520
a little bit, touchdowns a 
little bit up, INTS down a 

1310
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,480
little bit. 
And I mean a little bit like 

1311
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,760
barely perceptible, barely 
visible evidence that he was 

1312
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,640
getting better. 
But they're sitting there 

1313
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,960
saying, all right, we have a 
pretty good old line. 

1314
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,800
There's no franchise quarterback
to get. 

1315
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,200
We got to get somebody who's 
young. 

1316
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,480
We're going to run them a lot, 
try to have a bowl control 

1317
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,480
offense and we're going to 
rebuild it this way. 

1318
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,560
Now. 
They did it. 

1319
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,400
It didn't work out and they got 
rid of them and they didn't cut 

1320
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,480
them. 
They traded them. 

1321
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,680
So I mean, how were they able to
make the last trade that they 

1322
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,640
made? 
Think about it. 

1323
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,200
They swapped, right? 
They swapped with the Raiders 

1324
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,680
and they they swapped picks, you
know, 7th and 6th round. 

1325
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,000
So I do I like it. 
I I really do like it. 

1326
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,520
I'm fine with it. 
I think it's good. 

1327
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,000
But I'm not going to go nuts 
here. 

1328
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960
I mean, we, we breaking news is 
like at some point we're going 

1329
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,360
to get breaking news during the 
Aaron Glenn's fired or we're 

1330
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,000
going to get some real. 
Brains. 

1331
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,520
Yeah, no, I mean we need we need
something great like that to go 

1332
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,000
down. 
That would be that would be very

1333
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,400
fun. 
I don't. 

1334
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,200
Even know what the hell I was 
saying before that. 

1335
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,280
Jeez. 
John Rothstein. 

1336
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,360
John Rothstein, Knowledgeable 
guy. 

1337
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,360
Thank you. 
Good job, Jay. 

1338
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,840
And I remember just telling him 
finally, I'm like, John, you're 

1339
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,120
hitting me. 
I I don't even know what the 

1340
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,920
hell you're talking about. 
Like I don't know any of these 

1341
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:04,040
players. 
I don't care if I don't care and

1342
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,840
I'm starting to wander as you 
rifle through the 8th man who 

1343
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,120
averages 5.7 points a game for 
some mid major. 

1344
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,720
I love that you know that I love
that you love that I don't care 

1345
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,960
So, but John's the best. 
Like so you know, whatever. 

1346
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,840
We just got to kind of do a 
little more surface. 

1347
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,280
But I used to have model all the
time and I told him too. 

1348
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,680
I'm like, you got to get a 
hobby, man. 

1349
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,360
I have told, I've told John he's
like my hobby and his sayings 

1350
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,880
are hysterical. 
We sleep in May. 

1351
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,320
He is, he really is a unique 
dude. 

1352
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,920
Like I don't know how else to 
express it. 

1353
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,800
I'm a big fan of John. 
Number one, he's a friend, but 

1354
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,960
he and he's a great guy. 
But I tell him I'm like, dude, 

1355
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,360
you're going to be 300 lbs soon 
if you don't watch what you eat.

1356
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,280
You know, I every, you know, 
Sundays he's got 4, you know, a 

1357
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,400
pound of Rigatoni. 
He's got, you know, chicken 

1358
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,720
fries, he's got the meatballs. 
He's got this, he's got that all

1359
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,040
the different restaurants he 
hits. 

1360
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,320
He's an old school soul and he's
a great guy. 

1361
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,720
All right, you guys ready to get
in some WFAN stuff? 

1362
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,840
What do we got? 
What are we going to cook up 

1363
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,480
here? 
J Rod, how we feeling about 

1364
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,600
this? 
We think. 

1365
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,520
Could get spicy, could get 
spicy. 

1366
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,160
Could get, could, could. 
So did you guys catch what Joe B

1367
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,560
said the other day? 
I know that you did. 

1368
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,520
That was a rhetorical question 
to my producer. 

1369
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,440
It was on the Jake Aspen show. 
Jay does a lot of jets, a lot of

1370
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:25,160
jet stuff, right? 
So Joe was, I'm sure talking 

1371
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,560
about The Jets and obviously 
getting in some other stuff. 

1372
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,640
Joe B had this to say about the 
station and where the station is

1373
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,360
right now. 
Quote, the fan will never be 

1374
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,400
what it once was. 
I know I work part time there a 

1375
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,960
couple of days, you know, blah, 
blah, blah. 

1376
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,200
But the days of Imus and the 
days of Mike and the Mad Dog and

1377
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,200
the days of Steve Summers and 
myself overnight, all the that 

1378
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,080
Eddie Coleman, Dave Sims, those 
days, well, we'll never see 

1379
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,600
anything like that again. 
He continues. 

1380
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:01,200
The heyday we've all seen the 
heyday of the fan and sports 

1381
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:08,120
talk radio in general. 
OK, there's a couple of ways to 

1382
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,800
interpret that. 
Number one, I think if you see 

1383
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,600
the quote, I think that you 
could say Joe's hating on the 

1384
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,720
station. 
I don't. 

1385
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,960
I don't take that away from I 
don't. 

1386
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,400
That's not what I get. 
All right, I think the Jay that 

1387
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:25,440
Joe is, is leaning into a lot of
truth there, a lot of truth 

1388
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,320
there, right. 
I think that things have changed

1389
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,720
a lot and they're going to 
continue to evolve, you know, 

1390
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,600
and and year by year, sadly, you
know, and, and radio in addition

1391
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,760
to other stuff, but radio has 
afforded me to have a pretty 

1392
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,640
good living. 
So I'm always going to support 

1393
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:41,760
radio. 
I'm going, I'm almost going to 

1394
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,600
have radios back. 
I just am, right. 

1395
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,880
But each year you get a little 
sliver of revenue relevance 

1396
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,240
chiseled off. 
It's less relevant than it's 

1397
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,320
ever been in my lifetime. 
That is a fact. 

1398
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,320
OK. 
And people can protest that. 

1399
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,800
That's fine. 
Just look at the numbers from 

1400
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,720
revenue and just open your eyes 
and see what's going on in the 

1401
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,960
world in terms of content. 
And that's the only answer. 

1402
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,960
Like that's the only, I guess 
you can have other opinions, but

1403
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,000
that's the that's the reality of
what's happening. 

1404
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,480
You see what I find interesting 
about that? 

1405
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,440
What, Joe? 
Said. 

1406
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,680
Is, And I want to be careful 
here because I know how this 

1407
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,000
game works. 
Like it happened with Kay when 

1408
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,800
he was on the show and he was 
talking about his show. 

1409
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,200
Yeah. 
And the politics. 

1410
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,680
And it was sliced up. 
And I'm not taken out of 

1411
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,360
context. 
Mike said it, and whatever I 

1412
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,720
say, I'll stand by. 
I'm not saying that. 

1413
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,080
I want to just make sure I 
preface this. 

1414
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,440
I understand the world we're in.
You say something gets clipped, 

1415
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,120
it gets cut. 
It's out there for everybody to 

1416
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,760
disseminate and you open 
yourself up to being either 

1417
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,840
criticized or, or or whatever, 
and that's fine. 

1418
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,760
I'm a big boy. 
That's fine. 

1419
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,560
So I'll tell you what I really 
believe, right? 

1420
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,560
That's what we do on the show. 
That's what I've always done. 

1421
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,760
Don said something about, you 
know, he should have been more 

1422
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,800
aggressive and it bothered him 
with his name not being on the 

1423
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,360
show. 
Bing cut that up. 

1424
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,520
I didn't cut it up. 
National news in terms of this, 

1425
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,800
this medium. 
See the thing when I think that?

1426
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,240
Some people think that, Joe. 
'S saying that it's not as good 

1427
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,560
as it used to be. 
And I don't think that Joe was 

1428
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,960
saying that. 
I don't think that that was 

1429
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,960
Joe's intent at all. 
I think what Joe was saying is 

1430
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,200
really what I'm saying. 
Like the things have changed so 

1431
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,960
much that when when somebody 
like Joe Beningo or like Steve 

1432
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,479
was to say it or Mike or dog or 
even if Boomer was to say it, 

1433
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,880
which he wouldn't because he's 
still on the air. 

1434
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,399
But like one of those, you know,
old school, you know, Russ like 

1435
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,640
somebody who was there a long 
time, you'd have said said it. 

1436
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,120
Jodie Mac, Susan, it's not to 
me. 

1437
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,240
It's not a knock on the current 
talent. 

1438
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,680
I don't think that that's that's
what Joe was going for at all. 

1439
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,640
But now this is what I I really 
do believe what I'm about to say

1440
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:53,439
here. 
I think that back then, being a 

1441
01:08:53,439 --> 01:09:01,920
star on WFAN was pretty easy. 
It was pretty easy because there

1442
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,319
was nowhere else to go. 
That's just the reality of it. 

1443
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:07,640
That's the reality of the. 
History of the station. 

1444
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,920
So the station was born in 1987.
There was no 1050 ESPN Radio at 

1445
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,479
that point. 
There was no 98.7 FM ESPN Radio 

1446
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,560
and there was no 880 ESPN Radio.
Back then, if you were on the 

1447
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,920
air, you were almost by default.
You were a rock star. 

1448
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:31,680
You were a persona that is 
almost impossible to replicate. 

1449
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,840
Today. 
It's impossible, right? 

1450
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:37,520
So you think about the way we 
think about the way things were 

1451
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,560
back then. 
Who are the stars? 

1452
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,800
The stars were the the one or 
two main writers like Lupica, 

1453
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,960
right? 
Even though I think he's awful 

1454
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,479
to read, I cannot. 
I Lupica, stop. 

1455
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:55,720
Lupica was a star, right? 
Raisman was a massive star in 

1456
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,440
terms of being a voice, in terms
of the industry. 

1457
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,040
Mushnick, who I guess is still 
battling Carton, That was crazy 

1458
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,400
on that story the other day. 
My God. 

1459
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,240
I mean, listen, Mushnick is the 
guy's never happy. 

1460
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,240
I just I don't get it. 
Wow, if it's that joyless, stop 

1461
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,440
writing about it. 
I, I don't, I don't understand. 

1462
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,680
There are some good things you 
could write about, right? 

1463
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,280
My goodness, right, So those 
guys had juice because they had 

1464
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,480
the laptop and what they wrote 
controlled the mindset of a lot 

1465
01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:23,320
of people. 
I remember. 

1466
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,000
It's true. 
Like I remember when right when 

1467
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,560
race now raceman. 
As I got older, raceman actually

1468
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,200
started to treat me differently 
and and maybe maybe I just got 

1469
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:30,960
better. 
I don't know. 

1470
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,480
Maybe I got more humble. 
Maybe I got I got more buttoned 

1471
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:34,200
up. 
I don't know. 

1472
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,040
But when I first burst on the 
scene, raceman used to just shit

1473
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,000
all over me and I wanted to grab
him by the throat and knock him 

1474
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,320
out. 
I can't tell you how much it 

1475
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,880
used to bother me. 
I remember for one time might 

1476
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,560
have a few This could be an 
interesting segments 2 side 

1477
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,200
stories woven in here. 
I remember playing golf is when 

1478
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,640
I lived in Manhattan pre kids, 
pre marriage, all that stuff. 

1479
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,080
I remember I used to love coming
back from golf and going to get 

1480
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,920
like there was a Dunkin' Donuts 
on the corner getting like a 

1481
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,120
decaf and getting a bottle of 
water. 

1482
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,480
And then right next to it was a 
newsstand. 

1483
01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:11,680
Then they had the early version 
of the Daily News. 

1484
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,120
And you know, I wanted to see 
what Raisman was writing about 

1485
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,760
our business. 
Not just me, but our business. 

1486
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,280
And I remember like every time 
he wrote something I would 

1487
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,240
invite because I was young, I 
was a young broadcaster. 

1488
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,880
I was worried that not that I 
really cared what he thought. 

1489
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,400
I didn't mean him to say, oh, 
wow, you're really good. 

1490
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,960
I didn't need that validation 
from him. 

1491
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,040
What I was worried about was, 
jeez, if it keeps writing the 

1492
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,120
stuff, are my bosses at ESPN 
going to say maybe Raisman's 

1493
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,240
right? 
Like they did carry some clout 

1494
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,760
back then when you look at like 
network decisions. 

1495
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,800
I'm not saying that Raisman's 
opinion ultimately shaped the 

1496
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:47,440
final answer, but it was it was 
an if you know, you know it was 

1497
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,280
an important read, right. 
Anyway, remember one time he 

1498
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,520
wrote something and like it was 
personal and it was, I thought 

1499
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,760
it was off base and I called up 
my agent and I flipped out and I

1500
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,120
said, get that? 
Like I can't even say it like I 

1501
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,240
could, but I'm not. 
I just want to go nuts here. 

1502
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Get him on the phone. 
I'm like, I've I've often had it

1503
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,240
enough. 
Like I flipped out and then I 

1504
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,880
just learned and then I actually
saw him all the time over. 

1505
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,600
That's and why when I was doing 
the Wheelhouse and he was doing 

1506
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,840
Daily News live ironically with 
Joe B and and I developed a good

1507
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,880
relationship with him. 
I'm like, he's not a bad guy, 

1508
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,640
right? 
And I think he understood me 

1509
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,360
more and I understood him and 
whatever. 

1510
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,720
I think the tone changed a bit. 
But back then it was all right. 

1511
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,760
What did the Knicks do? 
Hey, I got to put on channel. 

1512
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,280
I got to see the news. 
I got to watch the highlights. 

1513
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,560
Hey, did Donnie go deep tonight?
It's a late game or I got to 

1514
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,840
flip on the radio in the 
morning. 

1515
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,600
You were a rock star by default,
dude. 

1516
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,960
Now, now this is the part I 
really believe this. 

1517
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,440
Now this is the part that might 
get me in trouble, and that's 

1518
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:46,080
fine. 
Some of the legends right on 

1519
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,560
WFAN. 
Do I really? 

1520
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,200
Think. 
Do I really think that if this 

1521
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,880
was the early 90s and being sad 
we're on WFAN that we we 

1522
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,400
couldn't have that type of 
persona? 

1523
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,120
I absolutely believe that we 
could have. 

1524
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,280
There's not a doubt in my mind 
because we were loud, we were 

1525
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,400
unapologetic. 
We were a little controversial. 

1526
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,040
We had some connections, got to 
know the Yankee manager pretty 

1527
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,240
well. 
Sal got some good inside stuff. 

1528
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,320
You know, with the Mets being 
around S&Y, I'm bringing you 

1529
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Saint John's stuff. 
I told you Patina was going to 

1530
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,840
get hired, so we had a little 
juice. 

1531
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,520
And I'm not trying to equate 
myself to Mike and Chris at all 

1532
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,200
because that's ridiculous 
because I'm a little Pebble 

1533
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:26,800
compared to the massive boulder 
that is constructing Mount 

1534
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,080
Rushmore. 
And they are both on it. 

1535
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,840
Obviously. 
I'm not saying that at all. 

1536
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,960
That's why, again, I know how 
the game works. 

1537
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,120
Oh, BT said that, you know, him 
and Sal would have dwarfed Mike 

1538
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,360
and Chris, and I didn't say 
that. 

1539
01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:40,680
And, and, you know, you guys 
know I didn't, but you don't 

1540
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,280
think for a second that I don't 
think in my own mind that if I 

1541
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,080
was born into a certain time, 
like a different time period, 

1542
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,400
that I could have done that. 
I do. 

1543
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,200
I absolutely do. 
I believe that with all my 

1544
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,800
heart. 
I really do. 

1545
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,240
I believe I could. 
I could have done it with Sal 

1546
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,400
and I believe I could have done 
it without Sal. 

1547
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,000
I believe I myself could have 
done it right. 

1548
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:05,680
But you know, I was born when I 
was born and I didn't. 

1549
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,120
Get a chance to work at. 
FN until much later and that's 

1550
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,040
life and that's fine. 
And that's why since things went

1551
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,800
down at the fan, you haven't 
served me. 

1552
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,440
You haven't heard me say a bad 
word and you won't. 

1553
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,720
Because I'm thankful for the 
three years that because I 

1554
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,640
really wanted to be able to say 
that I work there, man, because 

1555
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,520
the what it meant to me. 
So when I hear Joe say something

1556
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,080
like this, like it hits me at 
all different angles. 

1557
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,720
I don't think Joe was trying to 
diss anybody. 

1558
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,320
I really don't now. 
And this is not a knock at all. 

1559
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,560
I'm sure some of you will take 
it as one, but I'm just saying 

1560
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,840
it's not. 
I love Joe, I love his wife. 

1561
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,040
I played golf with Joe. 
Joe's a good guy, really good 

1562
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:47,160
guy. 
If Joe did the same show today 

1563
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,080
that he did all those years on 
WFAN and we were in the year 

1564
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,320
2026 and he was like just 
starting out, but he had that, 

1565
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,360
like that was his game. 
Do I think, do I think that Joe 

1566
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,240
would be a legend? 
I don't. 

1567
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,800
I don't, I don't think so. 
I think Joe would be a voice 

1568
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,480
that some people love and some 
people, you know, especially 

1569
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,000
killing The Jets and dumping all
the Mets and the craziness. 

1570
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,560
And it's one of the reasons I 
love Joe because he gave you 

1571
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,360
that energy and he gave you that
bite and he gave you that 

1572
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,360
wrongness and he knew it 
mattered to Joe. 

1573
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:20,520
But Joe doesn't like analytics. 
Joe doesn't study numbers. 

1574
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,600
Joe, you know, has gotten more 
and more political as he's 

1575
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,200
gotten older. 
Now maybe he was younger. 

1576
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,400
Joe wouldn't talk about that 
stuff on the air. 

1577
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,160
It's a different game. 
It's different rules, like I've 

1578
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,880
got to follow different rules 
than Joe. 

1579
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,120
You know, Joe could just get on 
the fan and be Joe. 

1580
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,680
And it worked, you know, and it 
worked at an incredibly high 

1581
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,920
level. 
That's why Joe's a legend. 

1582
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:47,840
But do I think that somebody 
like Joe is more talented than 

1583
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,800
me? 
I don't no doing good show. 

1584
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:56,160
No, I, I don't and like part of 
the reason why you've got to 

1585
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,160
have depth doing this is because
there were people out there. 

1586
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,520
I'm not saying Joe has no depth.
I don't mean that. 

1587
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,040
But now I'm just kind of 
continuing the point. 

1588
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,760
There's a lot of people out 
there that are really good at 

1589
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,680
what they do and can create 
great content. 

1590
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,040
So Joe is not wrong when he says
that you can get that. 

1591
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,280
Get the quote back up there 
again. 

1592
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,440
Jay, please want to read the to 
make sure I don't miss 

1593
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,600
misrepresent my guy. 
Joe All right. 

1594
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,160
The fan. 
I'm going to take this line by 

1595
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,360
line. 
The fan will never be what it 

1596
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,040
once was. 
I agree with that. 

1597
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,520
I agree with that. 
Number 2. 

1598
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,080
I know I work all right there. 
The days of Imus, the days of 

1599
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,080
Mike and OK, the days of Steve 
and myself overnight, all that 

1600
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,120
Eddie C, Dave Sims, those days. 
We'll never see anything like 

1601
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,760
that again. 
End Quote. 

1602
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,600
Now, if Joe is saying, and I 
don't think he's saying this, 

1603
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,840
keep that up please, Jay. 
Joe's not saying we'll never 

1604
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,080
have talent like Mike in Mad Dog
or me or meaning Joe. 

1605
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,640
Not me, me, Joe Joe or Dave or 
Eddie C or schmooze. 

1606
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,320
If he is saying that, well then 
I totally disagree because 

1607
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:56,600
there's a lot of talent out 
there. 

1608
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,560
I don't think he's trying to say
that at all. 

1609
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,400
I think he's what he's saying 
the what he is saying. 

1610
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:06,680
The relevance of those voices 
and how far they carried and the

1611
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:11,960
juice that they had, right. 
That's what's changed here. 

1612
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,560
The heyday. 
We've all seen the heyday of the

1613
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,880
fan and sports talk radio in 
general. 

1614
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:24,920
And with that, I agree with Joe.
You can get it off. 

1615
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,560
I do agree with Joe. 
I really do, you know, think 

1616
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,240
about this guys. 
One of the great things about 

1617
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,880
radio was and I unfortunately, I
wasn't really involved in it. 

1618
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,360
I would have loved to have been 
involved in it was the radio 

1619
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,120
wars and I wasn't involved in it
because when I was at 10:50 they

1620
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,680
would they would kick our ass 
because they were WFAN. 

1621
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,280
You know, we had a horrible 
signal. 

1622
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,480
We would just start out. 
They had a 20 year head start 

1623
01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:48,680
all that. 
And by the way, they had an 

1624
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,840
amazing product that a great 
leader and Mark Chernoff. 

1625
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,000
They had two Titans that Babe 
Ruth and I'd say Willie Mays for

1626
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,560
dog give him his giants love 
there. 

1627
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,360
You know, two of the best of all
time. 

1628
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,760
But to stick with the baseball 
analogy, you know, OK, who's the

1629
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,440
best player of all time? 
Well, you could say Babe Ruth. 

1630
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:06,240
You could say will be mage. 
You could say Hank Aaron, right?

1631
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,000
But if you believe it's Babe 
Ruth, and here's the I'm going 

1632
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,600
to give you a, a sports radio 
correlation. 

1633
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,080
If you believe it's Babe Ruth, 
you're saying that Babe Ruth's 

1634
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,320
the greatest player of all time.
And I could accept that based on

1635
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,640
the numbers to an extent. 
But now I have to also say he 

1636
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,880
never played against minorities.
African Americans weren't 

1637
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,160
allowed to play. 
Baseball, you know the the. 

1638
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,400
The Latino influence, I mean, it
was pretty much all white guys 

1639
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,760
and they were great, but it's 
different, smaller pool. 

1640
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,160
So I think it's probably more 
that, you know what I mean? 

1641
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,000
I I just don't think. 
I, I don't, I'm sorry, I don't 

1642
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,440
think. 
That any of. 

1643
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:55,560
Those voices back then, we're 
better than the voices now. 

1644
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,680
I think they received 
differently. 

1645
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,320
I think for some people they're 
respected differently. 

1646
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,080
I think the way we have to do 
shows, and I'll say we because I

1647
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,920
was there recently, the way we 
have to do shows, it's 

1648
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,800
different. 
You know, when you've got all 

1649
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:15,400
these outlets, you got YouTube, 
you got 9000 shows, TV, you got 

1650
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:20,160
everything, you got apps, you 
better be fucking on point right

1651
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,120
away. 
You can't joke around and jerk 

1652
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,720
around. 
You got to start the show and 

1653
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,720
when you have to start the show 
right away, and I know a lot of 

1654
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,560
you have issues with this and 
and I didn't love it either. 

1655
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,800
I said this when you got to 
start the show right away, like 

1656
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,720
this combative nature. 
Some shows, you know, morning 

1657
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,560
shows a little different. 
It's a little more free flowing 

1658
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:38,880
and and like they let it 
breathe. 

1659
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,280
It's different, Joe, you know, 
but like me and sad would come 

1660
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,000
out swinging because that's 
basically what we were told to 

1661
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,320
do and I didn't even really love
that. 

1662
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,360
We're going to swing naturally 
because he's sounding on me. 

1663
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:56,400
We're going to swing, but 
imagine if just imagine if every

1664
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:01,800
YouTube show that you watch not 
gone, gone, not there FS1. 

1665
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,840
I don't even know what debate 
shows are on FS1 now. 

1666
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,480
I know Craig did something 
there, Skip did something. 

1667
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:07,760
I don't. 
I don't know what's on there 

1668
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,080
now, but whatever's on there 
now, right? 

1669
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,200
Imagine not got, not there. 
Good morning football. 

1670
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,600
They do a good job. 
They do a good show like 

1671
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,840
Schrager left. 
He was good. 

1672
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,120
It's a talented show. 
Great chemistry. 

1673
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:24,120
Imagine if that was gone. 
OK, take 880 like Rothenberg and

1674
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:26,520
and Rick, I think that's a good 
morning show. 

1675
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,280
I think they're both very 
talented. 

1676
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,960
I do I think they know this 
stuff. 

1677
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,520
I think they have fun. 
You know, Rick played the game. 

1678
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,640
You know, Rothenberg's a nut job
in a good way. 

1679
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,320
Passionate that will have a lot 
of fun guy talk. 

1680
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,120
That's a talented show. 
Imagine if that wasn't here gone

1681
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:48,400
and it's just just imagine if it
was. 

1682
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,200
I'll go to my lineup when I was 
there, Boomer and Geo, BT and 

1683
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,560
Sal. 
Evident. 

1684
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,720
Tiki, we'd be fucking rock 
stars. 

1685
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,880
We would be. 
That's the reality of it. 

1686
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:02,800
That's not knocking Mic or 
Chris. 

1687
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,520
It's not. 
And if you take it that way, 

1688
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,320
that's your problem. 
Because I always give respect. 

1689
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:12,480
I always, always make sure that 
I show respect to people and not

1690
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:16,000
just people that came before me.
That's how I'm built like I'm 

1691
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,640
not mad what happened. 
I moved on. 

1692
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,040
I'm flourishing, I'm Brazilian, 
let's go. 

1693
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,600
I don't need WFAN to do content 
and they don't need me, 

1694
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,200
evidently because they said get 
out so good. 

1695
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,160
This isn't all you know, BT 
still pissed. 

1696
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,040
You know, I haven't projected 
that at all. 

1697
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,120
I really haven't. 
Anytime it's come up, not every 

1698
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,440
name comes up, but when a 
certain name comes up, I know 

1699
01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:43,000
Morash's name came up the other 
day on the show. 

1700
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,880
I'm like, I love Sean. 
I'm genuinely happy for Sean. 

1701
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,520
He's a talented, funny, nutty 
buttball who doesn't take 

1702
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,520
himself too seriously. 
You know, I worked with Tiki for

1703
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:53,920
10 years. 
He's a good guy. 

1704
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,160
Got nothing bad to say about Tik
Evans. 

1705
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,400
I say this with a smile. 
Weird good, good way, good way 

1706
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,560
weird. 
Great guy, knows his shit, love 

1707
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,280
sports. 
Like if that's the only show in 

1708
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,600
town, they're all rock stars. 
And some of them are anyway. 

1709
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,640
So it was an interesting thing 
that Joe said. 

1710
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:20,480
And it's Joe's opinion and I'm 
not here to say it's wrong. 

1711
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,320
I'm just giving you my opinion 
and I am offering conjecture, 

1712
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,840
conjecture and contextualization
based on my skin in the game all

1713
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,160
these years being at the other 
station and then being at FAN 

1714
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,720
and listening to the station 
literally from day one, you 

1715
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,640
know, so you know, if you're 
going to be the best player of 

1716
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,680
all time and. 
You're going to be a rock star. 

1717
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,120
And you're going to have the 
superhero persona. 

1718
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,040
Don't you think you had a kind 
of go against everybody to 

1719
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,720
really have that tag? 
I do. 

1720
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,960
But now you shouldn't be. 
You shouldn't be victimized when

1721
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,800
you're born. 
In a lot of ways, those guys 

1722
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,960
were lucky. 
You don't think about it now. 

1723
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,000
He could also now. 
This one going to defend some. 

1724
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:07,520
Of those guys too, there were 
other shows early. 

1725
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,200
Stages of. 
WFAN that just didn't work out. 

1726
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,640
They got rid of them, you know, 
and the ones who became legends,

1727
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,920
they did work and you trusted 
them and you listen to them and 

1728
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,720
you took on and they took on a 
larger than life persona. 

1729
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,520
I think the hardest thing now is
to have a larger than life 

1730
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,400
persona if you really think 
about it besides Stephen A 

1731
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:39,400
McAfee. 
Obviously like Charles Barkley 

1732
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:40,360
and. 
Jack, but they're former 

1733
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,360
players. 
So I mean, so is McAfee too. 

1734
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,320
It's just different. 
It's different, you know, I 

1735
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,920
think that I just think it's 
different. 

1736
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,400
I don't. 
Think it's better. 

1737
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,600
I don't think it's worse. 
I think in a lot of ways too, 

1738
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,200
here's the difference. 
Like, you know, I remember I was

1739
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,000
really frustrated when. 
I was trying to break into. 

1740
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,000
The business because this is in 
the in the late 90s and I 

1741
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,280
remember I don't know if I told 
the story. 

1742
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,560
I'm not going to get too deep 
into no, it won't be a short 

1743
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,320
story long. 
It will be a short story short, 

1744
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,040
I promise, because I want to get
some reactions. 

1745
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,640
Obviously J Rod pour through 
those get some good stuff on on 

1746
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:19,760
with Joe And I remember I sent 
the a letter to every sports 

1747
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,920
radio station in the country. 
This is how you had to do it. 

1748
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,800
You know, when you were trying 
to trying to get in. 

1749
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,680
Now I didn't go to Syracuse. 
I didn't have any connections. 

1750
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,320
I didn't need them. 
I had a dream and I had a work 

1751
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,080
ethic and I also didn't have any
practical experience because I 

1752
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,480
didn't do internships at Maris 
because I played baseball. 

1753
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,240
I couldn't even write for the 
school newspaper. 

1754
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,480
I didn't have time, right? 
So anyway, I'm not looking for 

1755
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:43,920
pity. 
My my path was hard. 

1756
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,000
And I remember sitting in my 
parents basement looking at a 

1757
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:51,000
website called Rick Scott. 
Rick Scott was an old, it was 

1758
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,640
like a website that it was 
aggregated. 

1759
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,760
I, I don't even know what he was
like. 

1760
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,960
What's the word I'm looking for?
Like one of these sage voices 

1761
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,840
that basically brought 
everything together for the 

1762
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,800
sports radio world. 
And I was able to find a link to

1763
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,320
every sports radio station and I
sent the letter barely. 

1764
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,160
I didn't even have a resume, so 
I was just basically making 

1765
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,000
stuff up. 
I did a little demo in my 

1766
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,040
basement, Sounded awful. 
Sent it to him, sent it to every

1767
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,200
station in the country, A-Z, 
Arkansas, Alabama, you name it 

1768
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,200
sent. 
I got like two or three back, 

1769
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,560
both rejections. 
One was from ATV station in 

1770
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,840
Denver. 
I remember getting excited when 

1771
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,280
it came, even though it was a 
rejection letter when it came to

1772
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:30,120
my parents house and I WJ God it
wasn't WG. 

1773
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,800
Yeah, well it would have been 
West of the of the Mississippi, 

1774
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,320
so it would have been K whatever
it was there. 

1775
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,760
And like, I was so excited 
seeing the call letters on the 

1776
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,080
envelope, like it actually gave 
me fuel. 

1777
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,240
I'm like, wow, they actually 
wrote me back even though I got 

1778
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,360
nicely rejected. 
And and that's how you kind of 

1779
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,880
had to do it back then. 
And it's not a pity party. 

1780
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,400
I'm not even, I'm not even 
trying to get into my whole 

1781
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,160
story. 
The point is that's how you had 

1782
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,040
to do it back then. 
The way you do it now is, you 

1783
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,600
know, you don't even have to 
study in college. 

1784
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,560
That's fine. 
You look into a camera, this 

1785
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,720
little thing, or you open up 
your phone and you do something.

1786
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,840
By the way, we're getting these 
up on the digital store as well 

1787
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,080
soon. 
And then you get it out there 

1788
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,760
and people either react to it or
they don't. 

1789
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,280
And if you get traction, you 
make money. 

1790
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,480
If you don't, you don't. 
So it's easier to permeate the 

1791
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:13,880
business. 
Now it's simple. 

1792
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,800
I mean, anybody could say that 
they have a podcast, anybody in 

1793
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,920
the world, but but it's harder 
to be relevant. 

1794
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,920
It's harder to stand out. 
And back then, conversely, it 

1795
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,880
was the exact opposite when I 
was coming up. 

1796
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,880
It was so much harder to 
breakthrough, so much harder to 

1797
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,080
breakthrough. 
Like the like, that's why the 

1798
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,880
greatest Panther so unique, he 
never had to leave, you know, 

1799
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,000
never had to leave the metro, 
the metropolitan area, 

1800
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,240
tri-state, tri-state area, God 
bless them. 

1801
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,280
Lucky now I'm happy that I did 
because I think it gave me I'm 

1802
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,480
not saying Don doesn't have that
at all, but it gave me like a 

1803
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:52,840
balance for me like a a well 
roundedness that I that I, that 

1804
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,400
I think is, is really good for 
this and has served me well. 

1805
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,800
You know, working in 
Pennsylvania and going to 

1806
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,200
Detroit and going to San 
Francisco and all these things I

1807
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,080
did whatever. 
So while it was hard, arduous, I

1808
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,560
was pissed, poor, frustrating at
times getting, you know, not, 

1809
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,880
not not like climbing the way I 
thought that I should. 

1810
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,360
I think it actually made me 
better at the end of the day. 

1811
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:17,320
But now you can, you can get 
your stuff in front of you can 

1812
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,040
you can record something, send 
it to McAfee or one of his 

1813
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,040
producers He can play it on Wow,
this, this is pretty good shit. 

1814
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,160
Put it on the McAfee show. 30 
seconds you can you go from 312,

1815
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,960
you know, followers on X2, 
suddenly you got 77,000. 

1816
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,680
If it's good enough, like that 
doesn't exist. 

1817
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,960
But with me and and my 
generation, it was harder to get

1818
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,400
in. 
But once you got in, if you were

1819
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,520
at least somewhat competent, you
did become a rock star. 

1820
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,720
Whether it was, you know, Scott 
Clark doing TV. 

1821
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,680
I love Scott. 
I got funny story with Clark. 

1822
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,200
I might say that is second with 
Scott Clark, J Rod, I'm I would 

1823
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,880
say that in a second. 
It's funny, you know, guys like 

1824
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,680
Scott where you watch the 11:00 
news like this guy's a rock star

1825
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,520
making over $1,000,000. 
They're all getting paid. 

1826
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:05,440
Len Berman, Warner Wolf rock 
stars, Mike and Chris Rock star,

1827
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,000
I miss in the morning rock star.
There's guys who are really, 

1828
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,280
really good and have created 
great. 

1829
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,280
Legacies on the. 
Radio now, but it is a little 

1830
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,760
different. 
So that's my interpretation of 

1831
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,120
what Joe said very quickly on 
the Scott Clark thing. 

1832
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,560
So now read this. 
Keep them up. 

1833
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,000
So I was again, trying to break 
into the industry. 

1834
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:29,840
Scott's at Channel 7 and my 
dad's friend knew some this like

1835
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,840
the only tiny teeny rat. 
I didn't even get a job at ABC 

1836
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,400
because I didn't do TV too much 
later. 

1837
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,840
But anyway, somebody knew Scott 
that knew my dad. 

1838
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,720
And he's like, hey, listen, this
kid, I don't know if he's any 

1839
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,920
good. 
I just graduated college 

1840
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,280
basically. 
I don't know if he's any good. 

1841
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,880
His dad's a good guy, you know, 
can he wants to break into the 

1842
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,600
business? 
Can you, can he come down? 

1843
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,840
Can he do anything for him? 
Scott's like, yeah, bring have 

1844
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,440
him come down. 
He could watch the newscast, 

1845
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,120
right? 
I'm like, this is unbelievable. 

1846
01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:56,000
So I go in, I'm all suited up 
and I'm sitting in Scott. 

1847
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,880
I don't even know if Scott would
remember this, but I do and I'm 

1848
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,400
in his office. 
And back then they would have 

1849
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,480
like the producer, like 
literally watching like the Nick

1850
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:04,720
game or the Rangers and they 
would be charting like, all 

1851
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,440
right, you know, 5 minutes and 
12 seconds into the first 

1852
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,160
quarter. 
I don't remember Patti 

1853
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,240
Lafontaine, if you're watching 
the, I don't know, whatever. 

1854
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,720
So and so scores a goal, right? 
Lead scores and that's what they

1855
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,760
will look for highlights that 
they would use at night. 

1856
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,520
So I was there pretty early. 
So they go on the air and it was

1857
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,560
Bill Beutel, Bill Beutel doing 
the news. 

1858
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:28,440
It it wasn't list show. 
I, I wish, I wish it was list. 

1859
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,200
It wasn't list. 
It was Bill Beutel, Scott Clark,

1860
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,400
Diana Williams and somebody 
else. 

1861
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,600
Oh, Sam Champion doing the 
weather. 

1862
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,680
And they're like, oh, hey, 
Scott's like, hey, just sit. 

1863
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,320
And it was a big studio. 
Sit on the side over there. 

1864
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:43,920
Just, you know, be quiet. 
You can watch how we do. 

1865
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,800
I'm like, absolutely, Mr. Clark,
you got it. 

1866
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,080
So I'm on this raised platform 
probably 2 feet off the air. 

1867
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,520
And then you start hearing the 
music. 

1868
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,760
The show's there. 
The news is starting. 

1869
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,760
And like, the directors are 
quiet on the floor quiet. 

1870
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,920
And I go to like move a little 
bit. 

1871
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,280
To this is a true story. 
I I wanted to disappear. 

1872
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:09,280
I wish I was dead at this moment
as I adjust I'm on a couch as. 

1873
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,360
I adjust the couch of the chair.
It was a couch and there's four 

1874
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,800
legs, right? 
One of the legs falls off of the

1875
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:16,920
platform. 
J Rod. 

1876
01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:20,880
And as they're getting ready, 
literally going like this, 

1877
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,320
you're on to. 
Them I'm not on TV obvious. 

1878
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,160
I'm a nobody, right? 
And it goes like this goes I'm. 

1879
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,200
Like what dude? 
I Fuck it, I. 

1880
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,440
My right. 
Hand hits the floor and I and I 

1881
01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:36,560
caught it and it made a little 
noise. 

1882
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:41,080
OK, the couch now is not what's 
not quite like it's It's uneven 

1883
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:46,560
and I held myself up for a 
minute and 1/2. 

1884
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,880
Before they went. 
To either. 

1885
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,400
Weather or something? 
Happened and they came in. 

1886
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,440
They helped me. 
If I didn't, it would have 

1887
01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:53,800
collapsed. 
Dude, it was. 

1888
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:54,960
It was. 
That's impressive. 

1889
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,440
Well, it was terrifying. 
Thank God I was. 

1890
01:30:57,480 --> 01:30:58,840
Young I could still. 
Do that. 

1891
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,320
Oh my God, Yeah, that's. 
Let's shout out to Scott Clark. 

1892
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,560
The point is, guys like that, 
they just, they, they were 

1893
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,200
received differently and they 
were truly. 

1894
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,360
Treated. 
Like, you know, royalty because 

1895
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,400
there just weren't many of them 
and it's not a knock. 

1896
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,120
It's just the reality of the 
difference in the business. 

1897
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,800
BT what happened to Scotty Frill
from the wheelhouse? 

1898
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,320
Ricardo Dash. 
We got a lot of letters BN 5 kW.

1899
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,760
Thank you, Ricky. 
I love Scotty man Scotty 

1900
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,440
actually. 
Oh God, like how many years did 

1901
01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:30,480
I do the wheelhouse? 
I think it was like O 67891011 

1902
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:35,360
When did I go to San Francisco? 
I think I 2011, maybe the 

1903
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,400
wheelhouse was like 05:00. 
So I did that a good six or 

1904
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,600
seven years and Scott and I were
the first show, the original 

1905
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,720
show. 
And then we had some other Van 

1906
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,920
Custer was the moderator because
good dude and me and Scotty 

1907
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,880
would just go bonkers every day 
and then they didn't. 

1908
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,960
Scott I think was there for two 
years and they didn't re up him 

1909
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,360
and then it was like Andy Gresh 
who who I know and I like and 

1910
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,080
Moose. 
It was like being Moose out of 

1911
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:58,800
battle one day over the toughest
day. 

1912
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,600
Moose is a great guy. 
I'm happy to see him doing well.

1913
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,160
And Moose was on there and then 
they bring I think Sal came on 

1914
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:08,440
once or twice he did because the
story about how like an idiot, I

1915
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:10,280
guess they said this out. 
We could do this the easy way or

1916
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:11,760
the hard way. 
I don't really remember him. 

1917
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,360
I don't Remember Me saying that 
he said that I did and it 

1918
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,440
doesn't surprise me either way. 
I love The Wheelhouse and I love

1919
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:19,320
Best and why. 
Scotty was there for about two 

1920
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,760
years and then they moved on and
he's still doing great. 

1921
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,200
A really unique voice. 
He was on late nights at The Fan

1922
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:30,320
and matter of fact, before The 
Wheelhouse, Scott was doing a 

1923
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,160
national show. 
Pharrell on the bench and when I

1924
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,680
was living in Vegas is when at 
it's no, it's been gone for a 

1925
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,480
long time. 
The sports fan radio network. 

1926
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:40,840
All right, a lot of talented 
people there. 

1927
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:44,240
The Jim Rome was there young Jim
Rome fabulous sports babe 

1928
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:48,720
Pharrell again, I'm just a 
weekend the host peon nobody and

1929
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,560
doing updates during the week 
nationally and when I would fill

1930
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,440
in for Scotty once in a while 
and I would get a chance to do 

1931
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:55,480
his night show and it was 
awesome man. 

1932
01:32:55,480 --> 01:32:57,160
Like I got people calling from 
Seattle. 

1933
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:58,760
I mean it was it was a national 
show. 

1934
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,920
It was a big step for me. 
So I haven't talked to Scotty in

1935
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,120
a while, but we had a great 
relationship. 

1936
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,200
Never had one beef at all. 
Really good guy, really unique 

1937
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:09,960
talent. 
Really good dude. 

1938
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:15,880
What do we got here, Robert? 
Robert Huertis dash S5CI. 

1939
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,040
Remember Summers, say Summers? 
Summers saying no UCLA 

1940
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,400
quarterbacks going to win a 
Super Bowl when the Cowboys 

1941
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,200
drafted Aikman in the draft. 
That's how long he's been 

1942
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,560
rolling with the fan. 
Well, yeah, I mean, we all say 

1943
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,520
crazy stuff there. 
I don't remember Steve saying 

1944
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:33,000
that, but if he did, all right, 
I mean, if you ever did a 

1945
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,560
history of the bad takes at that
station, including me, I mean, 

1946
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,720
some of the things I said, I 
might actually win some of the 

1947
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:44,160
some of the baddest takes ever. 
But that's what happens, you 

1948
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,640
know? 
When you're talking every single

1949
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,280
day. 
Lindor should only bad 

1950
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,080
right-handed. 
You know, Zach's going to be a 

1951
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,720
star playoffs with Zach. 
Timmy Boyle can spin it, you 

1952
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,840
know, I mean, you know, there's,
there's been some, there's been 

1953
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,200
some really good ones too, but 
there's been some bad ones 

1954
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,800
there. 
Charlie F 6675. 

1955
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:01,920
Charlie, what's going on, man? 
Great show. 

1956
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,000
BT an additional point of view 
point, I think radio and TV is 

1957
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,640
compelled to use former pro 
athletes along with TV and 

1958
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:08,560
radio. 
Yeah. 

1959
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,520
Watering down things further a 
little bit. 

1960
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,120
That's true. 
So like, that's why. 

1961
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,880
Listen, that's one of the 
reasons why Boomer's very 

1962
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,200
unique. 
Boomer's one of the first guys 

1963
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,440
to do it. 
I saw the other day that Boomer 

1964
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,960
passed. 
I miss longest tenured morning 

1965
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,200
show on the Fan and maybe ever, 
but definitely on the Fan. 

1966
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,160
Yeah. 
Like back then, it was like when

1967
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,360
when Boomer was doing that. 
And I remember hearing him on 

1968
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,080
with Chris doing the pics back 
in the day, radio and Boomer 

1969
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,880
made the easy transition. 
You know, Tiki later did it as 

1970
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,880
well. 
You know, Bart Scott does it. 

1971
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,120
You know, I mean, every show 
that you look at, it's basically

1972
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,040
athletes. 
So they already have that name 

1973
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,880
and they already have that 
recognition, that value. 

1974
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,320
So that that's another reason, 
I'm not saying it makes the 

1975
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,920
product better or worse, but it 
definitely takes away 

1976
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:54,520
opportunities for, you know, not
athletes to become stars. 

1977
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:55,200
I mean you. 
Think. 

1978
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,920
About that, it's a good point 
and an absolutely good point 

1979
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,280
there. 
You know, it was I, I wonder if 

1980
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,240
Joe did. 
I don't know if Joe circle back.

1981
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,240
I don't, but Joe doesn't care. 
I don't think that Joe cares 

1982
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,320
enough to to circle back. 
Not that he needs to clarify 

1983
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,280
anything. 
I wonder now I'm not listening 

1984
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,040
to it. 
I haven't heard it. 

1985
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,520
I'm sure they got to be talking 
about this on WFAN. 

1986
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,360
They have to be. 
I'm curious what some of their 

1987
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,960
takes would be. 
You heard my take, all right. 

1988
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,400
My take is I think that Joe's 
right. 

1989
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,560
WWFN is never going to be the. 
Same, but I also think that 

1990
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:29,440
that's a product of less about 
WFAN not knowing how to do 

1991
01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:31,400
things. 
Although of course I would have 

1992
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,440
kept beating Sal on the air. 
I've said that a million times. 

1993
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:35,520
I think they messed up, but 
whatever. 

1994
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:41,560
I think it's more really just 
the the ever evolving world. 

1995
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,760
I mean, think about this. 
There was a point, man. 

1996
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:49,920
I remember when I was in 
college, during one summer, I 

1997
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,760
did construction. 
It was like up on 179th St. 

1998
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,600
I would drive in every day from 
Brooklyn. 

1999
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,480
I would work my ass off, dude. 
And I was in demo and it was 

2000
01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:00,840
awesome. 
I was just J Rod. 

2001
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,120
I was just smashing walls down. 
I had the, oh, it was fun. 

2002
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:08,000
I was practicing my baseball 
swing, but working, you know, 

2003
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,240
doing stuff on the roof with the
shirt off. 

2004
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,200
Rocking the. 
Tan, I mean, the big fat gold 

2005
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:14,440
chain. 
Those were the days, I love to 

2006
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:19,040
say, feeling good. 
And and I remember I get maybe 

2007
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,120
1/2 hour, maybe even an hour. 
But I would go to my car during 

2008
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,360
lunch and I would listen to the 
sweater and the schmooze. 

2009
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,520
And you know, Russ, Russ has 
become a good buddy of mine. 

2010
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,600
I haven't seen him in a couple 
of months, but I see Russ. 

2011
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,960
I have number one. 
I've coached with Russ. 

2012
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,720
I've coached his grandkids in 
every sport. 

2013
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,000
Yeah, isn't that nuts? 
And he said he's there all the 

2014
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,360
time. 
They played soccer together. 

2015
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,920
I've Co this is just rec though.
I've coached his his grandson in

2016
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,560
rec rec baseball. 
So I see him all the time. 

2017
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,160
And I used to go into the car 
and, you know, have my my 

2018
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,960
thermos, my water, my big 
sandwich. 

2019
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,760
And I would listen to listen to 
those guys. 

2020
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,600
Like I couldn't wait to hear the
2020 update. 

2021
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,280
You know, whether it was AC, 
whether it was Huesler, whether 

2022
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,040
it was Mank, Of course, My God, 
Mank shout. 

2023
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,240
I see. 
I'll see Mink tomorrow as we fly

2024
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:05,880
out to California for the 
Johnnies. 

2025
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,280
Let's go. 
I'm pumped up to that man. 

2026
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,560
And the twenty 20s were such a 
staple. 

2027
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,880
You know that that's some 
evidence there. 

2028
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,320
I mean obvious evidence, but how
much it's changed like the 

2029
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:23,520
people now WFAN is really is 
really solely just and all 

2030
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,880
stations just a form of 
entertainment. 

2031
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,000
You connect like you connected 
to certain people and you want 

2032
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,600
to be entertained and you want 
to you want to hear your guys 

2033
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:32,840
and gals talk about sports, 
right? 

2034
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,760
But back then, and This is why I
say that the relevance has been 

2035
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,560
stripped away a little bit 
because back then, you know, 

2036
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,840
and, and in addition to the 
revenue, which is irrefutable, 

2037
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:46,080
but it's also, it was also 
really, it was like a, a source 

2038
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:46,840
where. 
You had. 

2039
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,640
To go to find out what was 
happening. 

2040
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:50,480
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2041
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,920
Pat Riley's doing a press 
conference today. 

2042
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,400
George Steinbrenner is talking 
about the Yankees. 

2043
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,080
I got to listen because there's 
no phone to bust out and get it 

2044
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,360
in real time. 
So you have to listen, you know,

2045
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:05,520
and you know, again, that's why 
I it's not, it's not arrogance 

2046
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,400
or or cockiness or a lack of 
respect. 

2047
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,960
You know, I really believe that 
there's a lot of us. 

2048
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:15,520
If we were in that spot back 
then, we would have identities 

2049
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,240
and we would have, you know, 
resumes and bank accounts and 

2050
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,720
legacies. 
Really like a lot of those guys.

2051
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,320
I don't believe that I really 
do. 

2052
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,760
Some people going to take issue 
with that and and I don't say 

2053
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,640
disrespectfully. 
So as long as you've heard the 

2054
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,840
the start of this show, I am 
completely fond with what I've 

2055
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:31,880
said. 
Yeah. 

2056
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,080
No, I mean, I think it's totally
fair and like, I think like. 

2057
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,360
You say like the great point of 
all this is just an idea of 

2058
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,840
oversaturation. 
I think an oversaturation in 

2059
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:47,240
every market of sports media, of
media in general, of people 

2060
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,160
showing themselves off on the 
Internet. 

2061
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:53,440
I just think the mass amount of 
information we're. 

2062
01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:56,840
Being fed has. 
Diminished the idea of a legacy 

2063
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,560
just because there's too much to
keep track of. 

2064
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:05,560
Along with this, I think it's 
much more of a personal angle. 

2065
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:10,600
When you do a show like this, or
a show where you do just shorts 

2066
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,760
off the iPhone, taking the video
of your face, I think that gives

2067
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,800
you much more of a chance to 
build yourself as a true 

2068
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,600
personality than the radio 
stations do. 

2069
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,080
I think that's the big 
differences nowadays. 

2070
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,520
You just take a selfie video on 
your phone. 

2071
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,680
You know, you're doing so much 
more for your own personal 

2072
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,560
brand, for sure. 
It's interesting. 

2073
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:32,760
Yeah. 
Well, I mean, think yeah. 

2074
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:37,400
No, I mean, think about the the 
only thing that I really miss is

2075
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,320
the callers. 
That's the only thing that I 

2076
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,080
missed there. 
Certainly don't miss the 

2077
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,960
commute. 
You know, don't don't miss. 

2078
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,880
I mean, the corporate check was 
nice too. 

2079
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,320
It's a pretty good one. 
But we're Justin. 

2080
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,600
You know, I miss, I miss parts 
of the show with Sal and you 

2081
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,240
know, the energy there. 
You know, I, I, but the callers 

2082
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,280
are to me that the one thing 
that I can't replicate, that I 

2083
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,960
haven't replicated yet. 
Like that's the one thing 

2084
01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:02,440
there's, there's, there's an 
urgency, there's a different 

2085
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,080
connection. 
There's, there's a deeper dive 

2086
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,560
there. 
And that's why we're really 

2087
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,520
trying to and I told you guys 
when we first launched this, 

2088
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,680
that Kohl's would be probably 
the last thing to come. 

2089
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,320
The first thing was I got to 
clean up the camera and I've got

2090
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,400
to kind of fix things with the. 
The logo, which I still got, I'm

2091
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,280
not going to get into that. 
We can still got things coming, 

2092
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,880
whatever, but and then the 
digital store is going to come 

2093
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,720
and then just start rolling out 
the interviews, which I've 

2094
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,080
already started to do. 
We were, you know, Stephen A 

2095
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:28,560
told me to circle back today, 
which I did. 

2096
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,120
He's still jacked up from the 
surgery. 

2097
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,320
So and now I've got to travel 
with Saint John. 

2098
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,680
So it could be early next week 
with Stephen A, but he's coming 

2099
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:40,040
on, You know, had Michael had 
Don had Sal, Obviously Francesa 

2100
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:43,240
said he would come on not to 
talk about FAN, but you know, 

2101
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,040
talk about sports, and I'd love 
to do that with Mike and, you 

2102
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,920
know, had patino on, you know, 
want to get boonie on just 

2103
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:50,760
things I just want to do here, 
talk to Alex. 

2104
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,320
He's going to come out as well. 
So those things I could still do

2105
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,280
and I love the long form 
conversation stuff, but the 

2106
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,720
calls that's that is the thing 
that I that I do miss, and 

2107
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,960
that's a built in advantage that
WFAN will always have, you know,

2108
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,720
at least for now, like the mass 
volume that immediate that like 

2109
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,320
that visceral. 
All right, right. 

2110
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,560
You know, Jets flues. 
What happened to the Giants? 

2111
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:12,720
Giants hire. 
Horrible. 

2112
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,880
How'd you draft this guy? 
Oh, my God. 

2113
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,920
Judge dropping a pop up in the 
World Series. 

2114
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,080
Fire Cashman fire Boom meant he 
had a shit year. 

2115
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,160
You know, it's that Maniah. 
What happened to you? 

2116
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,000
Whatever it might be. 
Bang. 

2117
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,800
This is the immediacy of that. 
That's a real thing. 

2118
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:31,440
Yeah, and that's a good thing. 
But other than that, we good big

2119
01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:32,680
time. 
And you know what? 

2120
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,480
Like whenever we get those 
callers. 

2121
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:37,080
Running, you know, soon, 
whenever that may be. 

2122
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,200
I know that's going to just be 
awesome like it's going to be 

2123
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:45,160
obviously so much fun huge for 
old fronts and also oh wait, 

2124
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,560
let's see any updates on chat 
polls? 

2125
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,120
Still got to figure that one 
out. 

2126
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,480
I'll figure that one out for 
tomorrow's episode. 

2127
01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:54,200
Well, why did you? 
I mean what you know. 

2128
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,040
Why did you need a? 
Text to to remind you about 

2129
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:58,600
that. 
I thought that was that was part

2130
01:41:58,600 --> 01:41:59,600
of the deal. 
I thought you were doing some 

2131
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:00,760
homework on that over the 
weekend. 

2132
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,840
J Rod. 
Hey, you know what? 

2133
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:07,520
My dog ate the homework. 
What happened to? 

2134
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,160
How was the? 
Weekend, by the way, anything 

2135
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,680
good? 
You can chill nothing. 

2136
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,480
I didn't man, I like. 
Went to bed on Friday, I went to

2137
01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:18,760
bed Friday, Saturday when I saw 
my buddy from college. 

2138
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,000
He I haven't seen him in a 
while. 

2139
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,840
He just moved to Philly, so he 
came through. 

2140
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,720
We chilled a little bit, but I 
just I was working. 

2141
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,160
I was working through the 
weekend. 

2142
01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:31,600
All right, all right, Yeah, I'm 
going to give you a little work 

2143
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,240
here. 
What is? 

2144
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:33,920
What does that? 
Handle say fook. 

2145
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,880
We'll say fook, fook your couch.
Fook your couch. 

2146
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,080
It's like. 
Saying judge could definitely. 

2147
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:41,320
Play in the 40s? 
No problem. 

2148
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,560
But take a player for. 
The 1940s, could he still play 

2149
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,600
now? 
Yeah. 

2150
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,960
I mean, and we'll never really 
know the answer. 

2151
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:52,040
Like, do I think, do, do I think
there's a lot of examples here? 

2152
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,000
Do I think that if Jack Nicholas
was coming up today just to take

2153
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,200
golf, right? 
Or, or Bobby Jones today or 

2154
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,640
Sammy Sneed today and they've 
got access to, you know, instead

2155
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:05,320
of using that two piece ball 
that went 250 yards, that's on a

2156
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,240
good day, you know, you're using
these souped up balls and you, 

2157
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,160
you, you, you know, you're 
basically rendering these 8000 

2158
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,480
yard courses. 
You're making them munis where 

2159
01:43:13,480 --> 01:43:15,520
you're going over trees and 
cutting corners. 

2160
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,440
And I mean these guys hitting 
seven irons more 7 irons, one 

2161
01:43:18,440 --> 01:43:19,960
9200. 
It's insane. 

2162
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,440
Do I think that if more than 
that, I think if Jack, do I 

2163
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:26,200
think that if Jack had the 
access to the equipment and the 

2164
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,960
training and, you know, to keep 
his body in shape instead of 

2165
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,040
banging back heaters and beers 
and whatever else he was 

2166
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,240
drinking And Arnie, yeah, I 
think they'd hit the ball as far

2167
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,640
as Tiger and some of them, 
obviously Tiger back in the day,

2168
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,440
you know, maybe not quite as far
as Bryson because he's a little 

2169
01:43:40,440 --> 01:43:42,280
different when he connects and a
few others like that. 

2170
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,960
But they don't be striping at 
3:20 off the team because that's

2171
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,640
what everybody does. 
I mean, so, you know, it's not 

2172
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,360
as easy to say that the you 
can't. 

2173
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:51,840
I don't know that it applies all
the time. 

2174
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:55,560
Like today's superstars would 
have dominated back then, and 

2175
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,160
the stars back then would have 
been, you know, average menial 

2176
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,400
contributors. 
Now, I don't think you could say

2177
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:03,040
that because there's way too 
many variables. 

2178
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,360
It's an interesting conversation
for sure. 

2179
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:11,160
But I think the one part that 
you have to hone in on is the 

2180
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:17,920
the lack of competition, right? 
The lack of seeking your time. 

2181
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,320
All right, so you get in the 
car. 

2182
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,640
Think about what you do when you
in the car. 

2183
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,520
Now you get in the car and 
depending upon like even if 

2184
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,440
you're at a traffic light, you 
know, you might check a message.

2185
01:44:28,440 --> 01:44:31,480
Whatever you get in the car. 
Are you streaming music? 

2186
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,480
Are you streaming? 
Are you streaming this show? 

2187
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,960
Are you are you, you know, 
streaming another show? 

2188
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:38,960
Like what are you doing? 
I mean you are you listening to 

2189
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,960
an audio book? 
I could tell you that, you know,

2190
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,520
you, you might be listening to 
WFAN because the ratings are 

2191
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,680
still really good and it's still
WFAN. 

2192
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,360
It's got a lot of respect, it's 
got a lot of cache, but there's 

2193
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,240
seven options. 
There's twelve options, There's 

2194
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,840
fifteen options. 
Back in the day now, getting 

2195
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,840
your car in 1989, getting your 
car in 1993, What are you doing?

2196
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,520
You're putting on WFAN or Z100. 
That's it. 

2197
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,400
So it doesn't mean that the guys
back then were better. 

2198
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,120
I'm sorry, it just doesn't, it 
means that they capitalized and 

2199
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,280
to their credit, to their 
credit, cuz there were a lot of,

2200
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,280
a lot of people who had a chance
early that just didn't get the 

2201
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,000
job done. 
Didn't sound right, didn't look 

2202
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:18,840
right. 
The, the chemistry between two 

2203
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,360
hosts wasn't good. 
They made changes, you know, so 

2204
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,600
all the credit into the, to the 
in the world, to those, to those

2205
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,680
men and women that did emerge 
from the early days of the 

2206
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,160
station. 
But to think that it's easier 

2207
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:35,160
now to be, to have that, that 
that persona is, it's a fallacy.

2208
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,560
It's the complete opposite. 
It's the complete opposite. 

2209
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,680
It's not, it's not even close. 
It's just harder. 

2210
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,640
It's I'd say, I think it's 
harder to do anything. 

2211
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:49,120
Not if you think about like now 
think about, let's think about 

2212
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:54,040
this, all right, If you are, 
let's say you're a kid, Let's 

2213
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,200
take an inner city because I 
love basketball and I love inner

2214
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,520
city basketball, right? 
I can certainly take a farm in 

2215
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,200
Indiana, but I'm going to take 
inner city. 

2216
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,080
Let's take a kid that's growing 
up and he's playing, he's 

2217
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:08,760
playing up in Harlem, right? 
He's playing in Brooklyn, You 

2218
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,480
know, like like Pearl Walk, Mark
Jackson, Steph, a little bit 

2219
01:46:11,480 --> 01:46:12,720
after that, Guys like that, 
right? 

2220
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:16,120
And obviously a lot of people 
before him where you got this 

2221
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:20,600
Isaiah Thomas in Chicago, going 
through the schoolyards where 

2222
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,880
God forbid you could get shot in
addition to playing the best 

2223
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:30,600
competition in the world or mean
streets of Philly or, you know, 

2224
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,440
Compton. 
And you're just looking for game

2225
01:46:32,440 --> 01:46:34,640
and you're trying to avoid the 
gangs and you're really trying 

2226
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,680
to do the right thing and not 
getting involved in the drug 

2227
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,240
game and, and, and the guns and 
all that. 

2228
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:44,560
And you just try to ball right. 
And the only thing that you had 

2229
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,040
to really compete with aside 
from the violence and and the 

2230
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,320
criminality aspect of it, which 
is unfortunate. 

2231
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,520
Well, from a basketball point of
view, all you had to deal with 

2232
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,680
was the players in the United 
States. 

2233
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,760
OK, watching basketball when I 
was a kid, there were no 

2234
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,320
foreigners. 
Like there was like one or two 

2235
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,360
that Now that little shrimp, oh,
where's he from? 

2236
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,200
Is he German or where's that guy
from? 

2237
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:08,920
You know, all these guys. 
You knew him all from college 

2238
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,480
because you saw him play 3-4 
years and it was all Americans. 

2239
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,720
Right now you've got it's a 
global game. 

2240
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,360
And I'm not knocking it. 
I'm just telling it's harder. 

2241
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,240
So now that kid who is really 
trying to do the same thing, you

2242
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,680
know, avoiding the violence and 
avoiding and by the way, you 

2243
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,680
could be affluent as well. 
I'm just, I'm just painting the 

2244
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,120
imagery of really trying to rise
from the ashes, right? 

2245
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,280
So you can, you could be, you 
know, scrapping on the 

2246
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,640
playgrounds or really more AAU 
now, but in Chicago or here or 

2247
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,960
Philly or Compton or wherever, 
right? 

2248
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,200
You know, Houston, TX, Dallas, 
whatever it might be. 

2249
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,360
And you could be the best, 
right? 

2250
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,040
And guess what? 
Now all of a sudden, the whole 

2251
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,040
you're going against the whole 
world, that's just basketball. 

2252
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,600
Think about what I opened the 
show with last night. 

2253
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:53,560
Think about what I opened the 
show, you know, last night. 

2254
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:58,200
The WBC, Japan, phenomenal, 
Dominican Republic, phenomenal, 

2255
01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:02,440
Puerto Rico, phenomenal, 
Venezuela, good Italy. 

2256
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:04,480
I mean, I don't know how they 
still play Italy good. 

2257
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,360
You know, like look at our our 
American players for every Bryce

2258
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:12,000
and every arid judge and every 
Whit and all those young studs, 

2259
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,120
right? 
The thing about the world that 

2260
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,560
you're trying to fend off to 
make it not only to the majors, 

2261
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:20,000
which is, you know, .1 of 1% 
just to get a college 

2262
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,080
scholarship. 
So everything is harder now. 

2263
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,640
I really believe that. 
I think everything is tougher 

2264
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,480
now. 
If you want to be a musician, 

2265
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,440
guess what? 
You could record a song. 

2266
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:31,320
Good luck to you. 
You know, you can make it 

2267
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:32,480
organic rap. 
You can be. 

2268
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:33,840
You can be. 
You can bang the violin. 

2269
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,520
You can hammer the drum. 
Not bang the violin, but play 

2270
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,520
the violin, hammer the guitar, 
whatever you're doing. 

2271
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,680
You know, music, dude. 
Alright, get it out there. 

2272
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,080
Fantastic. 
You can get it out there. 

2273
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,040
You ain't making a dime. 
You ain't making a dime. 

2274
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:48,080
That's right, you're not making 
a dime. 

2275
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,800
And there's. 
Also all these other people 

2276
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,440
doing the same thing that you're
trying to distinguish yourself 

2277
01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:55,840
more than so as I button all the
time. 

2278
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,280
If you're a golfer, you know, 
growing up, you know, I meant 

2279
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,720
you like this way before me. 
I'll be like Jack and Arnie. 

2280
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,840
You know, growing up it was 
pretty much an American game. 

2281
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,640
It was obviously born in 
Scotland and Ireland was very, 

2282
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:09,720
very big. 
You know, now like, you know, of

2283
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,560
course, South Africa going back 
to Gary Player back in the day 

2284
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,960
and Ernie Els, like South 
African has a very great golfing

2285
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,440
imprint. 
But now it's, it's all over the 

2286
01:49:18,440 --> 01:49:20,800
world. 
I mean, what Tiger Woods did for

2287
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:25,120
the game of golf, not only for 
minorities, but for the world 

2288
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:29,400
right now to be a golfer, you're
not just fending off the dude 5 

2289
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,560
states away that you're trying 
to beat, you know, for the 

2290
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:35,720
qualifier for some amateur 
event, you got to fend off so 

2291
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:40,400
and so in Japan and everywhere, 
Australia, New Zealand, 

2292
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,840
everywhere. 
So it's a lot harder, I think. 

2293
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,880
I think in a lot of ways, you 
know, what Joe said is true. 

2294
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,080
I, I agree with most of it. 
I just thought there was 

2295
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,240
interesting context for somebody
who was there and who grew up 

2296
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,120
listening to the fan. 
You know what I'm saying? 

2297
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,400
A job, Joe J Rod, you know what 
I mean? 

2298
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:02,640
No big time, big time. 
I feel like great. 

2299
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,560
Expert fan analysis and yeah, I 
mean, it couldn't, it couldn't 

2300
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,760
be any truer. 
And like you said, it's not at 

2301
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,880
the fault of the fan. 
It's just times are changing. 

2302
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:13,360
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2303
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,080
Because I do think, let's get 
that quote. 

2304
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:16,960
I'm gonna start. 
Wrapping things up, get get the 

2305
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:21,280
quote up there again and then 
get me up the a few good texts 

2306
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,440
about this. 
OK, one thing I don't want to 

2307
01:50:23,440 --> 01:50:26,160
do, and I'm sure some people do 
this keep that up is because, 

2308
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,960
and I see it in the comments 
like one game I don't play. 

2309
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,680
I just I'm not interested. 
I've never gotten into radio 

2310
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:36,000
beefs. 
I do what I do, and I respect 

2311
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,520
what others do. 
Yeah, see, I yeah, I hate to say

2312
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,280
it, that's most of the comments.
I'm. 

2313
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,920
Looking at right here, well, I'm
not going to put any of those 

2314
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:43,960
up. 
That's not what I'm trying to do

2315
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:44,920
here, guys. 
I'm not about. 

2316
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:48,280
That you know, and if you notice
where some of the comments, 

2317
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,920
because I do react to a lot of 
the comments on unleash on the 

2318
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,000
on the page there for the 
videos. 

2319
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:55,920
And sometimes, you know, you 
take shots at people and I 

2320
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:57,200
always say, Hey, keep it above 
board. 

2321
01:50:57,480 --> 01:51:00,200
You know, I, I know those guys. 
I don't profess profess to be 

2322
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:04,000
best friends with all them, but 
I know them all and you know, I 

2323
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,320
had good relationships with, you
know, fair, good enough. 

2324
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,320
And I just I'm not going to get 
into that. 

2325
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,640
So if it's about somebody and 
you're taking a shot at 

2326
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,600
somebody, I'm not doing that. 
And if you do it on on the 

2327
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,880
YouTube page, I guess I can't 
prevent you from doing it. 

2328
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:18,800
Same with Instagram, but I don't
lean into it. 

2329
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,600
I don't feed it. 
I'm worried about me. 

2330
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:22,720
All right, I'm worried about me.
I'm worried about this channel. 

2331
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:26,120
I'm worried about us. 
Jim Rome, Jim Rome, be a great 

2332
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,040
convo here with BTI can probably
get. 

2333
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:29,240
I don't know if Rome would do 
it. 

2334
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:31,400
I know, Jim, you can get that 
down. 

2335
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,400
I know him a little bit. 
I saw him at a couple of Super 

2336
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,800
Bowls. 
Always treated me well. 

2337
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,600
Good guy. 
But I should still have his 

2338
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:39,320
number. 
Yeah. 

2339
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:43,160
I mean, maybe the the the Phuk, 
your your couch. 

2340
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,200
Is that sort of a recency bias 
because you believe he can go 

2341
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,600
back and be a star back then, 
But some of those older guys are

2342
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,760
having a real tough time 
adjusting to the newer mediums. 

2343
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,240
No, no. 
What I'm saying is no, no, like 

2344
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:57,880
again, do I? 
What I mean is now I think I've 

2345
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:01,480
done well, OK. 
I've done well financially and 

2346
01:52:01,480 --> 01:52:02,720
I've done well. 
Perceptually. 

2347
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:04,480
And I do believe that I'm 
respected. 

2348
01:52:04,480 --> 01:52:06,240
I do. 
I know a lot of people don't 

2349
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,360
like my style, but I do believe 
that I have carved out a 

2350
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,560
respected existence in the world
of sports talk. 

2351
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,920
I firmly believe that. 
So what I what I mean by some of

2352
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:20,000
us being able if like if we were
transported back then, we would 

2353
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:21,800
have had an easier chance to be 
a star. 

2354
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,720
I mean the persona, you know, 
because there was just weren't 

2355
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:29,600
other people to fend off. 
It's just the reality of it, 

2356
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,760
man. 
Now some people that are having 

2357
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,040
a rough time transitioning that 
are older to the new. 

2358
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,840
Medium. 
I mean, I can't really speak. 

2359
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,680
I'm not saying I'm not 25 years 
old. 

2360
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,240
I mean, so I, I guess I'm, I'm 
more of the older side than the 

2361
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,360
younger side. 
And this, this is, I don't want 

2362
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,640
to say it's easy because I'm not
taking it for granted, but it 

2363
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,040
was a very seamless transition. 
I can't speak to that. 

2364
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,240
I can't speak to that. 
Like if you if you don't take 

2365
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,480
the time to learn this, if you 
just denounced the new medium, 

2366
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:56,240
you're going to die. 
You're going to die death. 

2367
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:57,800
So like you're not going to 
nobody's going to watch you. 

2368
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,320
Like you've got to be able to 
evolve there. 

2369
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,560
So I don't really know what you 
meant by that, but either way, I

2370
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,600
appreciate it. 
And the under score 516 radio 

2371
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,400
and the RSNS are dying yeah, the
regional sport network sports 

2372
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,680
networks are is there any way 
they end up merging into one 

2373
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:15,280
realistically or basically WFN 
and yes, become the same thing 

2374
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,480
when then K yeah, they only 
booth to the Yankees. 

2375
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,280
You get your announcers for 162 
in the playoffs. 

2376
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,000
I don't know the answer to that.
Listen, I I got to I got to 

2377
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:28,240
stand up for the for S&Y here 
Now, obviously I'm a Yankee fan.

2378
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,120
I love it. 
I love watching. 

2379
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,280
You know, I love Ki, love the 
announcers or somebody I don't 

2380
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,120
think are great, but some I I 
love. 

2381
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,000
But I think SOY does an 
outstanding. 

2382
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,680
Job I really. 
Do there's just not a lot on 

2383
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,040
during the day with yes, I'm not
watching Nets basketball not 

2384
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,720
interested. 
You know, when they get good, 

2385
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,960
I'll check in on them. 
I'm not watching them now, you 

2386
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,720
know, and some of the other 
content just not interested in 

2387
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,480
on yes, SNY doesn't. 
That's how I end my nights. 

2388
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,680
Like I usually end up watching 
politics and watching sports 

2389
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:55,680
night. 
By the way, I'm going to have 

2390
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:57,680
Nikki Ladarullo on the show, big
St. 

2391
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:01,120
John's fan and you know, she's 
younger and she's a massive St. 

2392
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:05,040
John's fan and she was she, she 
covers the Big East. 

2393
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:07,120
So I've seen her a lot. 
You know, she came up to 

2394
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:08,880
Providence last year for St. 
John's. 

2395
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:10,600
We're trying to work something 
out. 

2396
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,400
We were texting earlier and 
we're going to get on. 

2397
01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:15,440
I've got to see you now. 
I'm, I'm travelling to 

2398
01:54:16,440 --> 01:54:20,080
California and we're going to 
leave tomorrow night. 

2399
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,880
So I got to see what's going on.
So I, she doesn't know if she's 

2400
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:26,760
going out West yet, but we will 
try to get her on the channel 

2401
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:27,320
here. 
She's up for it. 

2402
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:30,960
It's going to make it happen. 
But S&Y does a really good job. 

2403
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,280
And you know, I worked at S&Y, 
they don't pay well at all back 

2404
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:35,960
then. 
They just don't, you know, I 

2405
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,400
don't know if it's changed and 
it's not my job to judge, but I 

2406
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:42,000
just know back then they did not
pay at all, right. 

2407
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,600
But they do a really good job. 
Like they. 

2408
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,680
Really bring you. 
Like when I was young, MSG 

2409
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:53,200
sports desk, like Bob Page and 
Crispino was on there. 

2410
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,160
God, who else was it? 
Like that was the way I got like

2411
01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,120
my Nick highlights the Rangers, 
you know, Yankees, like S&Y 

2412
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:01,040
brings. 
I love that. 

2413
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,080
And that's how they 
differentiate themselves between

2414
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:07,120
I I think certainly, yes. 
I mean, I really, truly enjoy 

2415
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,920
SNYI. 
Really do you know, I think that

2416
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,200
they do a good job. 
I remember texting Sal when I 

2417
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:14,280
found out we're going to work 
together. 

2418
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,120
I'm like, dude, I really like 
you on baseball night New York. 

2419
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:19,200
I really do do a good job. 
I watch it less now because my 

2420
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,400
days are different, but I finish
up with Sports Night, you know, 

2421
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,800
and I've known Eamon. 
Eamon does a good job and I love

2422
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:29,000
JJJJ was next to me when 
Princess almost killed me and 

2423
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:33,880
drove me with the golf ball. 
So JJ is a lunatic, you know, I 

2424
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,000
think Nicki's great. 
Who else is on there? 

2425
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,640
I'm not trying to omit anybody, 
but they do a good job. 

2426
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:40,880
They bring you Saint John's, 
they bring you the Mets, they 

2427
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:42,760
bring you the Yankees, they give
you the Knicks, they give you 

2428
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:44,160
The Jets, they give you the 
Giants. 

2429
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,920
Connor's really good. 
You know, The Jets coverage is 

2430
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:47,960
great. 
I love it. 

2431
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,760
So I think they're really doing 
a good job. 

2432
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:54,560
How about this at Zeke 
G76787681? 

2433
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,440
What up there, Zeke? 
So, BT would you ever agree to 

2434
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,800
name to would you ever agree to 
your name not being mentioned on

2435
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,520
the show similar to how FAN 
treated Big Mac? 

2436
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,680
Yeah, I honestly I could. 
Sit here and say. 

2437
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,320
No, I would never put up with 
that. 

2438
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,000
That's bullshit. 
Listen, C Mac had to do it. 

2439
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,120
He had to do it because he 
that's his chance to to jump 

2440
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,840
into the mix, man, that that's a
seat at the big boy table. 

2441
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:20,560
I get it. 
I really do. 

2442
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:24,200
You know, carton's the star and 
and that's the way it goes. 

2443
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:29,760
So I remember that was different
because when I was with Stephen 

2444
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,080
A, it was called the Stephen A 
Smith show. 

2445
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,840
But and BT and he would always 
start to show my right hand man 

2446
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:38,920
BT like we were tied as hell and
we were boys and and our show 

2447
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,440
was phenomenal. 
I always said, yeah, whatever 

2448
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,240
doesn't mean anything. 
I always say that's the biggest 

2449
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:48,640
mistake that 1050 ever made, 
breaking us up, really, and not 

2450
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,200
making it more of a yeah, you 
could put him to be the star. 

2451
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,680
I know I I got it. 
But give me a little bill in 

2452
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,640
here now. 
Yeah, I've got to put myself 

2453
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:58,080
back in those shoes, like C Max 
shoes, right? 

2454
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,600
He's younger, he's talented. 
I like C Mac Chris, a good dude,

2455
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,360
very good dude. 
I'm happy for him. 

2456
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,040
And I text him. 
That when he got the job. 

2457
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:07,920
Same with Sean, same with those 
guys, right? 

2458
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:12,400
And if like if I'm if I'm C Mac 
and I'm doing overnights and I'm

2459
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:16,280
trying to get on the fan and 
it's I think it's called the 

2460
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:17,600
carton show. 
I'm honestly, I'm not trying to 

2461
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:18,760
be jerk. 
I honestly don't know. 

2462
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,160
I think it's called, I think 
it's called the Carton show with

2463
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,960
C Mac. 
I think whatever it is, you 

2464
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:27,000
know, it's not like Craig and C 
Mack or the you got, you got to 

2465
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:28,600
do what you got to do to get in 
the door, man. 

2466
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,440
And it's easy to be all brazen 
and tough. 

2467
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,720
Oh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't know.
I would take what I could get. 

2468
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:35,360
Like that's just the honest 
answer. 

2469
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,680
You think like I could sit here 
and say and lie and say, Oh, I 

2470
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:41,080
used to knock on management's 
door and say, how come it's not 

2471
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,640
Stephen A and BT? 
Honestly, because I was happy to

2472
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,440
have a job. 
I was making good money and I 

2473
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,480
was, I was, I was carving out a 
career. 

2474
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,640
That's why, that's why you do 
it. 

2475
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:55,000
So, you know, I don't know if 
that's the perfect answer, but 

2476
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,880
I, I understand why Chris did 
what he did. 

2477
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:01,600
And I probably would have done 
the same thing now, you know, I 

2478
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:05,600
mean, did I in hindsight, did I 
love? 

2479
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,600
I didn't really bother me. 
Like maybe a little eagle play 

2480
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,200
you want to talk about like, 
which name is first, like Tiki 

2481
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,400
and Tierney? 
I mean, you know, in my mind it 

2482
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,680
should have been BT and Tiki. 
Whatever. 

2483
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,400
I didn't really care. 
You know, BT and Sal. 

2484
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,120
I mean, if they would have been 
like, it's Sal and BTI would 

2485
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:22,240
have been like, not that I 
really would have cared, but 

2486
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:26,560
only because I was there. 
Like, you know it, It doesn't. 

2487
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,840
Are you on the air, man? 
Like is your name in the show 

2488
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,920
and are you getting paid? 
And more importantly for Chris, 

2489
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:37,080
are you getting a chance to 
expand how many people hear you 

2490
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,360
and you do what you got to do 
for your family? 

2491
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,040
Dude, you know the by the way, 
the day. 

2492
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:45,760
Here's the other thing too. 
The days of demanding I want 

2493
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,280
this. 
I need this new contract. 

2494
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:48,840
Those days are over. 
They're not even. 

2495
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:50,400
Negotiations. 
Hey, let me tell you what 

2496
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:55,440
happens at basically, basically 
at at these places. 

2497
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:57,040
All right. 
Now, I'm sure it's different for

2498
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:01,200
Boomer, probably a little 
different for GL for most of us,

2499
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:03,640
right. 
It was here's the contract 

2500
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:04,800
offer. 
Take it or leave it. 

2501
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,560
Honestly, there's there's not 
even any negotiation. 

2502
01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:09,680
So at that point I'm like, I 
don't even need it. 

2503
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:11,000
I don't need an agent anymore 
for this. 

2504
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,680
Why am I going to pay an agent a
percentage when it's basically 

2505
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:15,160
hair? 
This is what we we want you. 

2506
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:18,240
We think you're good and we want
to put you in the in in the mid 

2507
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,800
days. 
But you know, you were making 

2508
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,320
this at the network and you 
know, they, they actually did 

2509
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,640
the right thing. 
And you know, I was making very,

2510
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:26,440
very good money for a midday 
host. 

2511
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,760
I know that for a fact, but 
that's probably one of the 

2512
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,520
reasons why I'm gone too much. 
Admit that guy. 

2513
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,120
But there was no real 
negotiation. 

2514
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:39,400
You know, a little tick here, an
extra week of vacation, that's 

2515
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:41,160
it. 
That's radio now. 

2516
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,600
That's radio now. 
Whereas when I am negotiating 

2517
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,560
our sponsorship with Sullivan 
for pain, it's like our first 

2518
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:49,880
sponsor. 
We've got more coming. 

2519
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:53,040
That's why Sullivan will always 
be #1 I mean, they jumped into 

2520
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,880
YouTube, they jumped into 
Unleashed and they said, I 

2521
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:57,760
believe in you. 
Here's X amount of money. 

2522
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,040
And it wasn't, you know, we had 
to negotiate that. 

2523
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:04,160
So it is different whether your 
name's on the show or whether 

2524
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,000
you, you know, you want this per
year. 

2525
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:09,480
But they're offering this. 
The days of demanding anything, 

2526
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:14,600
it's just over, trust me. 
On on WFAN, I'm not saying like.

2527
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,480
For some of these big. 
TV shows and other outlets. 

2528
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,080
It's about conventional 
terrestrial radio. 

2529
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,280
You're not demanding anything, 
you just not. 

2530
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:23,720
And if you are, you ain't gonna 
be around. 

2531
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:28,720
Let's see at Sean B50D until you
guys get a hard phone line. 

2532
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:31,720
Why not use Discord? 
It's free, calls are clear, no 

2533
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,600
drops and a really good service.
Just a thought. 

2534
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:35,920
Let's get on that buddy. 
You can't. 

2535
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:38,880
You can't get on me with this, 
with this behind the scenes 

2536
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:40,440
mumbo jumbo. 
What Discord? 

2537
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:43,760
I don't even know what that is. 
I know what it means Discord but

2538
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:47,120
what does he mean this cord? 
No discord. 

2539
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:50,160
It's like it's similar to this. 
Platform. 

2540
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:53,080
Oh, this and Skype. 
Oh, there you go. 

2541
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:54,200
Yeah. 
Well, then we'll figure it out. 

2542
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:55,560
You know the new way we're going
to. 

2543
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:58,040
Get some calls here. 
Let's just let's just plug this 

2544
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:00,080
cord into the wall, see if it 
works. 

2545
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:03,520
It's the Discord phone line 
which drives this. 

2546
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:05,480
Get out of here, right? 
But. 

2547
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:08,280
Discord get on that J Rod, let's
go keep these texts pumping I. 

2548
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:09,280
Know people love. 
This stuff. 

2549
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,240
Let's go. 
All right, this is all. 

2550
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:12,640
This would be awesome. 
Let me see here. 

2551
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:14,960
Hold on at Rod Power 78. 
All right, I will continue to 

2552
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,880
pound the table. 
For S&Y to do an outdoor show 

2553
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:21,120
with BT and Sal and JJ, the 
comedy would be off the charts, 

2554
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:24,440
especially with the prospects of
Sal being scared. 

2555
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:25,920
Shit. 
Why would he be scared? 

2556
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:27,280
I don't know. 
Who knows? 

2557
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:29,000
In the outdoors, maybe he's 
just. 

2558
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:32,360
Outdoors, like they're saying, 
like if you guys did like a man.

2559
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:37,520
Versus wild type. 
Show you Sal and JJ Oh an 

2560
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:39,640
outdoor show. 
Show an outdoor. 

2561
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:41,840
Yeah, yeah. 
What do you want us to do? 

2562
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,760
Go wrestle. 
Bears and and try to tie 

2563
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,800
alligator What? 
Are we outdoors show? 

2564
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,000
I mean, I would be scared too 
with that. 

2565
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,240
And you know, all the. 
So when I was shooting that man 

2566
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,000
versus bear show on Discovery, I
was terrified. 

2567
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,200
I'll never forget now they were 
Hollywood bears for whatever 

2568
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:57,680
that means. 
Oh, no, they're tame. 

2569
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,920
They're Hollywood bears. 
I'm just like, oh, Kylie, OK, 

2570
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:04,000
I'm great. 
And I remember when we had to 

2571
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:08,080
shoot the promo that was the 
host, all right, along with with

2572
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:11,600
my other guy. 
He was like the behavioral 

2573
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,520
biologist for bears. 
What a Casey. 

2574
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:16,520
What a wild man. 
He was great. 

2575
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:18,200
Casey, shout out, bro. 
Love you. 

2576
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,520
We had so much fun, dude. 
My God, we're in Utah shooting 

2577
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:25,600
the show for I was there about a
month in a hotel. 

2578
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,160
It was wild and what a great 
experience. 

2579
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:31,040
Anyway, when we had to shoot 
the. 

2580
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,440
Promos like because. 
You would see this on Discovery 

2581
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:36,240
coming up this week on Man 
versus Bear. 

2582
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:39,960
There were times where I 
actually had to stand. 

2583
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:40,880
There. 
And say. 

2584
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:42,840
Coming up, I mean, I wouldn't 
say it like that, the boys guy 

2585
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:45,680
would, but I would be there and 
I'd say coming up on this, you 

2586
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,960
know, coming up next on Man 
versus Bear, Freaking Bear would

2587
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:51,520
be behind me. 
Yes. 

2588
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,160
Not in a cage, dude. 
Not in a cage. 

2589
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:58,800
And they had people. 
They had people on set with 

2590
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,320
rifles in case something 
happened. 

2591
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:05,120
Who fucking unnerving it is to 
have to look. 

2592
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:08,520
Into a camera. 
And with a bear behind you, I 

2593
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:11,240
know that you got rifles. 
I know you're not going to miss 

2594
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:13,120
because it's basically like the 
National Guard, whatever the 

2595
02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:16,520
heck they were. 
Wow, no, that, I mean, that's 

2596
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:17,400
terrifying. 
A. 

2597
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:19,760
Live. 
Bear in the flesh. 

2598
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:23,320
I was never so scared in my life
dude. 

2599
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:26,840
Never. 
I mean, one thing goes wrong and

2600
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:30,720
Jay, I just kept going like this
like I was trying to. 

2601
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,400
You can actually. 
Hear him making these noises? 

2602
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:35,360
And I don't mean he was 30 feet 
behind me. 

2603
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:41,680
He was 1012 feet behind me and 
it was a big real bear. 

2604
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,360
I got funny story for you really
quick aside and get some more 

2605
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:45,760
texts up there about what we're 
talking about. 

2606
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:50,680
I was in, so I shot, let's see, 
I was still doing the show with 

2607
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:51,920
Tiki. 
So we're doing the national 

2608
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:53,840
show. 
I was working so hard. 

2609
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:56,680
That was that was awesome. 
And I'm shooting. 

2610
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:00,320
I'm on set like 10 hours a day. 
I mean, you think it's easy, but

2611
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,680
it's cut after cut after cut 
after cut after cut after take, 

2612
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,320
after take after take. 
And we're up there like we had 

2613
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:08,160
to be in our trailers. 
I remember we had a trailer. 

2614
02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:10,440
It said have my name. 
It said, it said BT on it with 

2615
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:13,000
the star. 
I'm like, Oh yeah, boy, we made 

2616
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:14,280
it. 
We made it right. 

2617
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:18,840
And I remember we had an off 
day. 

2618
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,280
I'm such an idiot, man. 
So I I really, yeah, I just 

2619
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,200
laughed at the stuff that I did.
So I'm still doing the show with

2620
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:29,160
the CBS was doing the national 
show with tiki and TV component.

2621
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:32,000
So a little tricky to get out 
and just say, hey, I'm going to 

2622
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:36,040
Utah for a month, which I did. 
Can I, you know, take a week's 

2623
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,120
vacation and still piece 
together and do some shows. 

2624
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,840
They were awesome. 
Like Eric Spitz who run Serious 

2625
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:43,560
Now and journey and all my 
bosses might. 

2626
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:45,880
I had an agent back then like 
that'll work really hard. 

2627
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:50,520
So anyway, again, Long story 
short, so I'm driving from where

2628
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:52,840
the hell were we were, We 
weren't in Provo, we were in 

2629
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:54,920
heat. 
It's called Eber I think the H 

2630
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:58,000
sounds like an EHEBER Eber, 
Utah. 

2631
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:01,320
And they got me ATV station to 
go and do the show with tiki 

2632
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:05,080
everyday in Salt Lake City. 
So I'm driving, I'm on the air 

2633
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:06,320
shooting. 
I'm on there 4:00 in the 

2634
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:07,840
morning. 
Cannot complain. 

2635
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:11,720
It was awesome doing the show 
man versus bear going back to 

2636
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:14,000
the hotel, changing, taking a 
shower, getting in my car. 

2637
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:18,160
Now, of course, I have to rent a
white convertible Mustang like a

2638
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:19,960
complete like a cloud. 
What the hell? 

2639
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,720
I thought I was like the 80s, 
like the Ginzo from Brooklyn, 

2640
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:26,160
like I I got a so I so I have 
the I have a like I'm treating 

2641
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:27,800
myself. 
I'm making good money doing the 

2642
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:29,360
show man. 
Not life changing money, but 

2643
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,320
good money. 
I'm getting myself a freaking 

2644
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:35,720
white drop top five O and I did 
and I had it for a month, right,

2645
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:38,960
and I'm driving, so I do and I'm
driving to Salt Lake back in the

2646
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:42,840
top down mountains. 
Absolutely gorgeous man. 

2647
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:47,040
So one day we we have off this I
I said I've never been so scared

2648
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:49,280
when the bear was behind me. 
This is the other time. 

2649
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:53,360
I I really don't think I've ever
been as I I honestly thought I 

2650
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:54,520
didn't know what was going to 
happen. 

2651
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:55,800
True. 
This is a true story. 

2652
02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:59,560
So I've got I got the IT was 
like a Wednesday that it was a 

2653
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,640
dark day. 
I'm like, I'm going for a ride 

2654
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:03,840
and my wife came to visit me for
like a week. 

2655
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:06,240
Kids were too young, like a 
week, but she wasn't there yet. 

2656
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:08,760
So I'm like, I have an off day. 
I'm like, I don't think playing 

2657
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:12,200
golf, whatever, I'm just going 
for a ride and I drove up this 

2658
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:14,440
massive mountain. 
Take my shirt off I'm driving. 

2659
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:16,640
I got the stones playing rag top
right. 

2660
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:20,600
I'm going up the mountain. 
I'm going high, man. 

2661
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:23,840
I think it was like I made I 
might those of you who hike, 

2662
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:25,680
don't hold me to the number. 
Just trust me. 

2663
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:28,600
It was really high and it it it 
really high. 

2664
02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:31,680
And as I'm driving like this is 
awesome, man, I'm looking 

2665
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:33,120
around. 
This is phenomenal. 

2666
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:35,280
My God is so look at God's 
country. 

2667
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:41,320
Look how high we are. 
I get to the top and I'm like, 

2668
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:44,800
wait, wait a second, I got. 
I got to get down. 

2669
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,520
How am I going to get down? 
Oh my gosh, how am I going to 

2670
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:51,560
get down? 
And when I tell you that hand to

2671
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:59,440
Bible, it was the the width of 
the road was there wasn't a lot 

2672
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:00,160
of. 
Extra room. 

2673
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:04,560
All right, now I started getting
a little afraid of heights. 

2674
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:07,640
This was the final like you are 
officially scared of heights, 

2675
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,920
buddy. 
I remember when we went zip zip 

2676
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:11,600
lining on our honeymoon in Costa
Rica. 

2677
02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:13,240
I wasn't I'm like, this is 
great. 

2678
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:17,320
I didn't really as I got and 
that was in 2010 around the mid 

2679
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,440
20s. 
I'm 2015, so a little nervous at

2680
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,800
heights. 
Anyway, I'm looking down now. 

2681
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:27,120
The not only is it narrow, 
Jared, when I tell you it's one 

2682
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:28,880
way. 
Oh. 

2683
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:32,600
My gosh, dude. 
There's barely enough room for 

2684
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:33,520
two cars. 
God. 

2685
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,560
Dude, dude, dude, I'm actually 
getting, I'm getting, I'm 

2686
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:37,920
getting anxiety thinking about 
this. 

2687
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,120
Now I'm actually. 
Getting nervous thinking about 

2688
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:43,560
this now so as much as I'm 
enjoying the ride, I get to the 

2689
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,120
top. 
I'm like God, but and I'm like. 

2690
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,360
Wait, I'm thinking there's going
to be like AI don't know what 

2691
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:49,560
I'm thinking is going to be up 
there like a parking lot where I

2692
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:51,720
could do AK turn and just come 
down. 

2693
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:57,880
I'm freaking the fuck out, man. 
I am beyond terrified. 

2694
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:03,240
I'm actually praying to God. 
I'm praying because I look down 

2695
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,400
and it's just vast. 
Wilderness. 

2696
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:11,160
It's I am above the tree lines 
by hundreds of yards. 

2697
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:15,600
I'm like, I don't have enough. 
Room. 

2698
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:19,360
To navigate this thing I have no
service. 

2699
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,360
I was going to call the park. 
Ranger or a. 

2700
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:22,880
Helicopter. 
I really didn't know that. 

2701
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:28,400
I'm like, I now I now now this 
is where I really got scared. 

2702
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:32,520
I'm like, all right, dude. 
And I I oh man, I'm really 

2703
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:33,680
getting anxiety thinking about 
this. 

2704
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:39,280
I'm like, what if a wild animal 
runs at me and I fall off the. 

2705
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:44,000
Mountain. 
Oh my gosh, this is what I'm 

2706
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:46,560
thinking about when I'm talking.
To the mountain like I am all 

2707
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:48,400
we're. 
Talking about is my children. 

2708
02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:52,600
Oh man, I am praying. 
I am praying to my Maker. 

2709
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,200
I am. 
Praying and because I'm I'm 

2710
02:08:55,240 --> 02:09:01,680
deathly scared to stand near the
ledge I'm on my knees or door. 

2711
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:07,920
I was paralyzed with fear. 
I could not move like call the 

2712
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:10,160
cell, call, call, call the park 
Ranger, no. 

2713
02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:13,200
Service. 
As I said, I I'm like, you got 

2714
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:14,480
to get the fuck out of you. 
Just you have. 

2715
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:19,360
You have to get out of here. 
So I turn the car and as I'm 

2716
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:24,640
doing this, I slowly do it. 
And now so I give enough room 

2717
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:30,000
for another car to come through.
Yeah, OK, going up was the easy 

2718
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:31,320
part. 
Reversing. 

2719
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:34,880
The car to come down. 
Was tricky, actually coming down

2720
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:37,720
was the worst part. 
I mean, I'm sure the worst, 

2721
02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:39,320
right? 
I'm. 

2722
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:41,560
Sitting there, I I. 
Was crying like I'm crying. 

2723
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,360
To myself, I'm. 
Like I really then I'm like, 

2724
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:48,040
because I'm saying to myself, 
what if like a a moose, not a 

2725
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:50,800
moose, moose all the way up 
there. 

2726
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:52,480
Moose is they're terrified. 
What? 

2727
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:55,520
If a bear really. 
Like a werewolf and a werewolf 

2728
02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:59,840
coyote or something runs at me. 
I got nowhere to go and like, 

2729
02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:03,400
and he attacks me and I fall or 
if I try to walk away and I 

2730
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:06,440
fall, I'm, I'm, I'm thousands of
feet. 

2731
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,160
I'm dead and I don't think 
anybody would find me right. 

2732
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,000
All I'm thinking is my kids and 
so. 

2733
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:13,320
Oh. 
My God, I'm actually a good. 

2734
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:14,160
Nervous. 
Now think about. 

2735
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:17,160
So finally I turn the car to 
them and I'm holding the 

2736
02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:20,880
steering wheel like this. 
And I see now there's enough 

2737
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:23,120
room for the car to get. 
I'm like, somebody please come. 

2738
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:25,440
Just somebody, please come. 
Somebody has to come. 

2739
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:29,800
And then I see a car. 22 old 
guys. 

2740
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:33,280
They were old, right? 
When I say old, I don't like in 

2741
02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:34,840
their 70s. 
They weren't like lights. 

2742
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,840
They were like 75 seconds. 
Yeah, just driving slow, 

2743
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:40,200
laughing, talking. 
One guy's holding the cigar. 

2744
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:43,000
I look at myself. 
Alright, I go. 

2745
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:44,680
You got fucking. 
Man up, man. 

2746
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:49,160
You got you can't be a wuss like
if me two dudes who are then 

2747
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:49,880
again, if I. 
Was 80. 

2748
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:51,200
I don't. 
Think I'd care as much about? 

2749
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,080
Dying, Yeah, maybe that's not, 
that's not how I would want to 

2750
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:55,840
go, but I'm like. 
If these guys. 

2751
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:58,320
Are doing it you better figure 
out a way to get down this 

2752
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:02,360
mountain bro and because they 
were in front of me I felt like 

2753
02:11:02,360 --> 02:11:07,960
I could go really really slow I 
I finally. 

2754
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:09,680
Got that and when I got to the 
base they. 

2755
02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:11,360
Were at the base. 
Was like a little railing where 

2756
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,120
I knew I was now safe. 
I got down, I pulled now I 

2757
02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:19,080
actually got out of my out of 
out of the car on normal flat 

2758
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:21,520
ground and got on my knees and 
prayed and thank God. 

2759
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:23,840
I honestly thought that was 
beautiful. 

2760
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:26,440
That's great. 
Would you? 

2761
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:28,800
Say that was like. 
Some of the most relief. 

2762
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:31,480
You've ever felt in your life 
when you hit that base of the 

2763
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:34,040
mouth without question. 
Without question. 

2764
02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:37,120
Without question. 
I don't even know what a close 

2765
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:39,720
second is. 
I mean, I mean, in hindsight, 

2766
02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:42,040
like I could look back at the 
time I got in a car accident 

2767
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:45,040
really bad my senior year in 
high school. 

2768
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:47,440
Yeah, I remember you talking 
about. 

2769
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:49,360
Yeah, I. 
Wasn't driving. 

2770
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,720
And it was. 
Two kids, young kids doing 

2771
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:55,080
stupid stuff. 
We crashed at 108 miles an hour.

2772
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:57,560
Yeah, yeah. 
I don't really talk about that 

2773
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:00,640
too much, but like, of course, 
you know, that's my way of 

2774
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:02,800
saying God had a plan for you, 
you know, to be dad, to be a 

2775
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:05,960
husband, like he spared you. 
I mean, by every account, should

2776
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:07,520
not have walked away from that 
car accident. 

2777
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:10,000
Just should not have. 
The car was a mangled mess. 

2778
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:11,280
Literally. 
I can't even think about it. 

2779
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:13,560
That's a different level of 
like, wow. 

2780
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,760
But in the moment, because it 
happened so fast, like the car 

2781
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:18,920
accident, knock on wood, it's 
different. 

2782
02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:20,840
It's different. 
It's different because I was by 

2783
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:24,520
myself and nobody was near me. 
I'm not in my element. 

2784
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:31,640
Like there's animals and all I 
hear is, oh, I hear these eagles

2785
02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:35,640
like these. 
I honestly thought it was over 

2786
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:38,080
man, and I couldn't even call. 
My wife, it has such a long. 

2787
02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:40,440
Build up. 
I'm just like, Oh my God, Oh my.

2788
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:44,200
God like yo, it would have been.
Honestly, it would have been bad

2789
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:47,640
enough if there was a guardrail.
And I still had to go down. 

2790
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:50,240
But the fact that I had to 
manipulate the car now, 

2791
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:53,600
obviously there was enough car 
enough, enough space to do like 

2792
02:12:53,600 --> 02:12:55,880
the broken K turn or the 
whatever the hell I did. 

2793
02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:59,120
I mean, I can't even think about
it anymore. 

2794
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:00,280
I got to move on. 
From that because. 

2795
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:02,560
It was, it was not good, it was 
not good. 

2796
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:04,600
Get some text up there before. 
It's not crazy. 

2797
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:07,040
Let's see. 
Okay, here's an interesting one.

2798
02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:10,000
I just checked out on his 
channel as well. 

2799
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:11,840
Yeah. 
Oh wait, hold on, here's a 

2800
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:16,720
hilarious one first. 
Dang dude, too many comments to 

2801
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,280
go through. 
BT you need to show some range 

2802
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:22,080
and do a spot on Ms. Now with 
Rachel Maddow. 

2803
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:24,560
Is she still on? 
I don't know. 

2804
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:25,840
I have no. 
Clue. 

2805
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:29,160
I mean, I'm not super. 
Hip to all of that so yeah, 

2806
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:31,040
yeah, yeah. 
Well, here's listen, it's funny 

2807
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:32,160
you say that. 
So that's from from. 

2808
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:36,320
Withdrew. 
Yeah, for on Ms. OK, so I I've 

2809
02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:39,440
been on Fox a few times, right? 
My buddy Jimmy Faylor, who I've 

2810
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:43,120
become pretty good friends with 
wildly talented comedian. 

2811
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:46,920
Awesome, right. 
So it started where we got an 

2812
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,200
e-mail to the account of of 
Unleashed here. 

2813
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:52,000
And actually let me let me take 
a step, take a step back. 

2814
02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:57,080
There was a point about I want 
to say about. 

2815
02:13:58,040 --> 02:13:59,320
I guess it was right around 
COVID. 

2816
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:02,360
So I'm talking about 5-6 years 
ago, you know, Jesse Waters. 

2817
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:05,760
I don't know if you do from Fox.
I saw a picture. 

2818
02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:08,320
I was, you know, Yeah, yeah. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

2819
02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:10,440
So, Jesse? 
Waters's people. 

2820
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:13,200
Reached out to me, I don't know.
It may have been honestly may 

2821
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:15,040
have been the Kaepernick stuff. 
I don't recall. 

2822
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,080
It was. 
It wasn't to talk about Yankees 

2823
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:18,120
free agency. 
Put it down. 

2824
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:19,960
Yeah, I'm sure. 
Yeah. 

2825
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:22,360
So I'm. 
Like, you know. 

2826
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:25,760
I'm like, I'm not going to. 
I know the association with Fox,

2827
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:28,680
much like you know, the 
association with CNN and Ms. 

2828
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:32,840
like you know which way of 
course, and I'm like, I'm not 

2829
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:34,440
going to do that. 
I'm just especially the. 

2830
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:36,760
Sensitivity. 
To the topic, right, I'm not 

2831
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,160
going to do that. 
And I and they asked a few, they

2832
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:41,560
asked me a couple times and I 
turned it down, right. 

2833
02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:49,680
And when we launched this, the 
people of Jimmy Fallon reached 

2834
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:51,640
out and they're like, no, I'm 
sorry. 

2835
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:55,680
First it was Brian Kilmeade's 
people and great, great guy Vert

2836
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,040
kill me, really cool producer, 
really big fan of the station, 

2837
02:14:58,040 --> 02:14:59,720
big St. 
John's guy, good dudes, right? 

2838
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:03,000
So they want to do a youth 
sports segment and I've, I've 

2839
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:05,600
done some content on here and a 
lot of people know I coach and 

2840
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:09,040
all that stuff, right? 
Coach the kids and and I went 

2841
02:15:09,040 --> 02:15:10,480
on, it's not about politics, 
right? 

2842
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:14,200
But obviously being on Fox, 
there's an association, you 

2843
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:16,840
know, pro Trump right wing, 
right? 

2844
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:19,920
And I don't talk about politics 
because I don't think it's 

2845
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:22,160
beneficial to me. 
I don't think that you guys 

2846
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:24,280
follow me for this reason. 
I know you don't. 

2847
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:28,000
And I don't want to hear your 
opinions on politics, which is 

2848
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:31,120
why, and this went pretty viral.
I was basically telling 

2849
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:33,000
everybody in my field, guys, 
dial it down. 

2850
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:35,800
Nobody gives a shit who you 
voted for and nobody wants to 

2851
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:38,840
hear you take shots or or prop 
people up like the gratuity 

2852
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:41,640
shots now, not not when you talk
about Aaron Boone. 

2853
02:15:41,640 --> 02:15:44,760
And then the next shot is, is a 
knock, you know, at Trump or pro

2854
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:47,720
Trump or at Biden or I did. 
What are we doing, man? 

2855
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:51,400
Right. 
So, but, but given the 

2856
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:57,120
sensitivity to that, you know, a
lot of people who follow me and 

2857
02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:58,720
and knew that I was going on Fox
like all why? 

2858
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:00,680
And some people loved it pro 
Fox. 

2859
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:03,120
Some people like, how could you 
go on that horrible network? 

2860
02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:05,080
I get it. 
I said, Hey, I'm going on youth 

2861
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:07,360
sports, right? 
And that's what I talked about. 

2862
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:10,640
And then Jimmy Faylor's people 
invited me and I've been on 

2863
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:13,000
twice. 
He's got a national radio show 

2864
02:16:13,000 --> 02:16:15,360
that's not first to have the 
Super Bowl. 

2865
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:18,920
And I by the way, I nailed I I 
nailed the score to basically to

2866
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:21,080
the point and to the point 
spread. 

2867
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:23,040
Yes, I won a lot of people, a 
lot of money. 

2868
02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:26,000
So I was on with Jimmy there. 
And then they asked me back. 

2869
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:27,520
It went really well. 
We talked, we talked about 

2870
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:31,040
nothing about politics. 
So I say this because if they 

2871
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:36,360
invited me on, I'd go on like to
me any, you know, I've said a 

2872
02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:38,520
few times like, you know, like 
say if, like if. 

2873
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:40,799
There's a trade. 
That the Yankees and the Mets 

2874
02:16:40,799 --> 02:16:42,799
could make that would benefit 
the Yankees and benefit the 

2875
02:16:42,799 --> 02:16:45,080
makes and, and, and benefit the 
Mets. 

2876
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,120
Why would you not do it? 
Like, why? 

2877
02:16:47,360 --> 02:16:49,080
Because all the gangs and the 
Mets can't make a deal. 

2878
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:51,080
It's not good for business. 
All the perception, blah, blah, 

2879
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:54,200
blah. 
If if I'm on one outlet that 

2880
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:58,760
that espouses a certain, you 
know, tone towards politics, but

2881
02:16:58,760 --> 02:17:02,200
I'm not talking politics. 
But it's a massive platform to 

2882
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:06,600
talk about something important 
like youth, youth sports and the

2883
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:09,360
decaying nature and the 
pressures and the economic 

2884
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:12,000
costs. 
Why am I not doing that same 

2885
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:15,160
thing if Rachel or CNN, it 
reached out, just haven't 

2886
02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:16,879
reached out. 
So yeah, I would go. 

2887
02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:18,760
You got to use. 
You got to use every platform 

2888
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:21,520
you can in this world. 
There's a few people I wouldn't 

2889
02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:23,040
go on with, but yeah, I'm sure 
what else you. 

2890
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:28,040
Got would love if. 
BT linked up with CP and do an 

2891
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:30,240
episode together. 
Could have it simulcasted on 

2892
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:33,520
both KFTV and BT's channel. 
Who's CPK? 

2893
02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:37,040
He's CP from Knicks fan. 
TV. 

2894
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:40,400
I don't know if you've ever 
watched his channel see Peter 

2895
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:41,799
franchise. 
I think so. 

2896
02:17:41,799 --> 02:17:42,760
Is that what you're talking 
about? 

2897
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:45,680
This guy, yeah, he's got a good 
channel. 

2898
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:47,000
He's got he's. 
Got a lot of Subs. 

2899
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:48,559
Yeah, he's got a. 
Great channel. 

2900
02:17:48,799 --> 02:17:51,520
I don't know. 
So yeah, I feel like, I mean, 

2901
02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:54,320
that would be really cool. 
I think he took a shot once with

2902
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:55,400
me and Sal. 
Really. 

2903
02:17:55,799 --> 02:17:58,320
I think so when we were on. 
He was on with Evan and Tiki, I 

2904
02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:01,080
think, and me and me and Sal 
were like, dude, like Evan and 

2905
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:02,160
Tiki, how the fuck you guys 
didn't? 

2906
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:03,480
Why didn't you stand up for us, 
man? 

2907
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:06,080
Like it wasn't a vicious shot. 
I forget what it was, but me and

2908
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:08,559
Sal, I remember talking to Sal 
about I'm like, what? 

2909
02:18:09,680 --> 02:18:10,840
How are you letting this happen 
here? 

2910
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:12,600
I don't even know. 
It may have been about Carl 

2911
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:13,559
Banks. 
I don't even know. 

2912
02:18:14,559 --> 02:18:16,120
Yeah, no. 
They put out good content. 

2913
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:17,559
They put. 
I know he's a big Knicks guy. 

2914
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:20,360
I haven't met him. 
Listen, I'm all for there's a 

2915
02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:23,040
good few people saying saying 
that would be great. 

2916
02:18:23,719 --> 02:18:25,080
Listen, get it to him. 
I don't know him. 

2917
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:28,120
Yeah, I would do some collabs. 
I'm I'm definitely going to do 

2918
02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:29,240
some collabs. 
I know we. 

2919
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:33,280
Are I would do it absolutely man
100%. 

2920
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:35,280
That's some fun with that. 
What else you got? 

2921
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:39,040
Anything else just on the bear 
show? 

2922
02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:42,040
Is it because I'd love? 
To see this too, is it possible 

2923
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:47,040
to to see like the you on 
whatever man versus bear? 

2924
02:18:47,080 --> 02:18:49,160
Yes, the man. 
OK, it's still possible. 

2925
02:18:49,360 --> 02:18:50,240
Yes. 
Hold on. 

2926
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:51,760
I'm going to pull something up 
on my phone. 

2927
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:54,600
Oh yeah. 
It's 100% there, man versus bear

2928
02:18:54,600 --> 02:18:56,799
discovery. 
You know what sucks about that 

2929
02:18:56,799 --> 02:18:59,200
too? 
Now listen, I made, you know, I 

2930
02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:01,120
made a couple of bucks. 
It was an amazing experience. 

2931
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:04,200
Hold on, man versus bear. 
Wait to see one of the promo 

2932
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:05,719
pictures. 
It was wild, dude. 

2933
02:19:06,959 --> 02:19:08,760
I mean, I hate to Google my own 
name. 

2934
02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:10,280
I don't even know if it'll pop 
up here. 

2935
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:13,559
Hang on. 
Well, one of the like classic 

2936
02:19:13,559 --> 02:19:17,639
Brandon Tierney. 
Promo images Is that picture? 

2937
02:19:17,639 --> 02:19:22,240
Is the man there one of you kind
of with the grimace going down? 

2938
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:25,280
Oh, here's 1. 
So here's one, right? 

2939
02:19:25,799 --> 02:19:29,879
So we were hang on. 
So yeah, you can see that right 

2940
02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:31,360
there. 
You can see that right there, 

2941
02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:33,000
right? 
Man versus bear on set. 

2942
02:19:34,879 --> 02:19:36,440
Yeah, that that was a lot of 
fun. 

2943
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:39,200
And the crazy, too. 
Is that we let me see if I can 

2944
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,320
actually get the oh this one 
Jesus, I look like let me see 

2945
02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:44,280
it. 
I look like I look like such AI 

2946
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:45,520
just look like a complete 
douche. 

2947
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:46,400
In this picture. 
Don't I? 

2948
02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:48,960
I'm in the mountains. 
I'm in the mountains of Utah 

2949
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:50,560
wearing like this construction 
shirt. 

2950
02:19:51,760 --> 02:19:52,680
I know. 
That was a good one. 

2951
02:19:54,120 --> 02:19:58,880
This one was us on the set with 
some of the competitors. 

2952
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:01,520
Oh, wow. 
Yeah, I'm just Googling stuff. 

2953
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:03,960
I don't know. 
Yeah, it was some cool. 

2954
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:06,960
It was fun. 
This was the actual image of 

2955
02:20:06,960 --> 02:20:08,440
the. 
This is not me. 

2956
02:20:08,440 --> 02:20:09,960
This is frame that's in my man 
cave. 

2957
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:13,320
That's a pretty bad ass promo. 
That's what was on Discovery. 

2958
02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:15,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 
yeah. 

2959
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:17,960
So the the. 
Crazy thing about that is that 

2960
02:20:18,880 --> 02:20:21,000
it? 
Started out really well, like 

2961
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:22,560
the way these go, the way you 
make money. 

2962
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:24,480
And again, I I made, I made 
pretty good money doing it. 

2963
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:25,920
Not life changing money, but it 
was really good. 

2964
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:28,720
It was good, but the way you 
make real money, life changing 

2965
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,000
money is now for a second season
to get picked up. 

2966
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:34,560
Right. 
So I remember we had a big watch

2967
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:37,600
party at at my at my home here. 
My parents came. 

2968
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:39,840
Kids were little. 
We had like this big Jen got 

2969
02:20:39,840 --> 02:20:42,160
like a bear cake. 
You know, we had like this Big 

2970
02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:43,280
Bear theme. 
It was awesome. 

2971
02:20:43,880 --> 02:20:48,080
And we're watching it and the 
the next day the ratings come 

2972
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:48,760
out. 
We did well. 

2973
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:52,760
We either tied or beat Tucker 
Carlson from Fox. 

2974
02:20:52,760 --> 02:20:55,640
Now, whether you love yeah, 
whether you love Tucker or hate 

2975
02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:59,320
Tucker, Tucker was a ratings 
machine at the really was the 

2976
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:02,000
monster, right? 
And we may have even been a slot

2977
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:04,720
higher, right? 
Or I forget exactly, but we got 

2978
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:07,200
the ratings and the executives 
were thrilled, right? 

2979
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:13,640
And then, if I recollect 
correctly, the impeachment 

2980
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:15,760
proceedings with Trump. 
With Trump. 

2981
02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:20,480
With Trump took off. 
With Trump took off right? 

2982
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:22,480
And now? 
Think about it. 

2983
02:21:22,480 --> 02:21:25,040
Instead of watching some 
Mindless Bear try to RIP people 

2984
02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:27,880
in half, people are going to pay
attention to what's going on in 

2985
02:21:27,880 --> 02:21:28,600
the world. 
Of course. 

2986
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:30,400
Yeah. 
And then Week 2 we went from a 

2987
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:32,240
really high poll. 
Our. 

2988
02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:37,080
First show to five stop 5. 
You know 5. 

2989
02:21:37,080 --> 02:21:40,840
Slots lower, Sure, a little. 
Lower, a little lower. 

2990
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:44,840
And then the network execs were 
like, you know what, We're going

2991
02:21:44,840 --> 02:21:46,480
to I think maybe say it was on a
Wednesday night. 

2992
02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:48,160
I don't think it was. 
I think it, but say it was on a 

2993
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:50,240
Wednesday. 
Hey, we're going to put it on 

2994
02:21:50,240 --> 02:21:52,840
Saturday now. 
Once you start changing days 

2995
02:21:52,840 --> 02:21:56,480
around, it's over. 
Oh yeah, I mean that I've never 

2996
02:21:56,480 --> 02:21:57,280
done a show like. 
That. 

2997
02:21:57,280 --> 02:21:59,440
So I'm like, oh, maybe Saturday 
would be better, I'm thinking. 

2998
02:21:59,440 --> 02:22:01,880
It's going to be good, but 
you're basically buried it 

2999
02:22:01,880 --> 02:22:03,680
saying it ain't working. 
I don't. 

3000
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:06,080
I don't know and I'll never know
the answer to it, but. 

3001
02:22:06,400 --> 02:22:08,120
If it would have. 
Made it like if Trump doesn't 

3002
02:22:08,120 --> 02:22:09,920
get in Pete's and the 
proceedings aren't taking away 

3003
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:12,080
everybody's attention on a night
which is more important than a 

3004
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:15,320
bear show, I get it. 
It wasn't diverting eyeballs to 

3005
02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:17,480
other channels and more 
important things in the world. 

3006
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:20,040
You know, maybe a boy would have
a few more bucks in the account 

3007
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:22,720
because season 2 would have come
and that's where you make money.

3008
02:22:22,960 --> 02:22:24,480
Like that's where you make real 
money. 

3009
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:27,400
So we'll never know. 
We'll never know. 

3010
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:30,320
Interesting. 
Well, I'm checking it out then. 

3011
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:32,160
All right, man. 
Go check it out. 

3012
02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:33,920
No it's pretty wild. 
Like some of the some. 

3013
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:36,080
Of the things that they tried to
do were amazing. 

3014
02:22:37,160 --> 02:22:39,640
Let's see anything else here? 
Give me like more or two more. 

3015
02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:41,640
I got to roll. 
All right, let's see BT you 

3016
02:22:41,640 --> 02:22:43,440
should collab with. 
I know I got to roll too. 

3017
02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:46,960
You should collab with NYY 
Underground and Bad Dog Sports, 

3018
02:22:46,960 --> 02:22:50,240
both great Yankee channels. 
Not familiar with either of 

3019
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:52,240
those channels, but definitely 
we'll check them out. 

3020
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:54,400
Yeah, I mean, listen, here's the
thing guys. 

3021
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:55,840
I appreciate that and I'm 
definitely. 

3022
02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:57,480
Open to these collabs. 
There's no doubt I'll have a 

3023
02:22:57,480 --> 02:22:59,800
little fun with this, but I'm 
not going to go begging. 

3024
02:22:59,800 --> 02:23:02,480
I mean, so if you guys, I don't 
know some of these channels 

3025
02:23:02,480 --> 02:23:05,480
because I'm still fairly I know 
that CPS thing on on the Knicks.

3026
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:06,840
I know that's got a big 
following. 

3027
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:10,040
I don't know that Y1, no 
disrespect, but like, if there's

3028
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:12,320
somebody that you want to see me
with, reach out to them and tell

3029
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:13,680
them to reach out to me, I'll do
it. 

3030
02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:15,960
You know, I've I've got to do my
homework and my research. 

3031
02:23:15,960 --> 02:23:18,520
I've got to make sure it's a 
viable outlet and, you know, I'm

3032
02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:20,600
I'm sure that those I know that 
the next one is I'm sure the 

3033
02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:25,360
Yankees is, but, you know, 
whatever Mason Miller has stones

3034
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:27,360
had the challenge system been in
effect, it would have been a 

3035
02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:29,600
ball. 
And runners on 1st and 3rd. 

3036
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:34,400
I think that was a ball, huh? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

3037
02:23:34,400 --> 02:23:37,120
What else we got here? 
Oh, the Chase and Statham vibes 

3038
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:39,200
with that, with that Utah 
mountain picture. 

3039
02:23:39,200 --> 02:23:40,560
Yeah, People said that about 
that. 

3040
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:42,520
Looked like him a little bit. 
All right. 

3041
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:45,000
Is there one more? 
Anything about the Beningo stuff

3042
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:46,120
there? 
That was really interesting. 

3043
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:48,040
Let's see. 
I mean a lot of them were like 

3044
02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:50,560
those super chats. 
We got to. 

3045
02:23:51,040 --> 02:23:52,800
Let's see, there might be a good
one. 

3046
02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:58,280
Go back, go back. 
Let's see. 

3047
02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:00,920
I don't know if we read. 
This one less competition back 

3048
02:24:00,920 --> 02:24:03,760
then vying for our attention. 
The golden age is over. 

3049
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:05,840
Joe is right. 
I don't know. 

3050
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:07,400
Do we say do we go over that 
one? 

3051
02:24:08,360 --> 02:24:10,840
Holy shit I've got like 13 text 
messages here. 

3052
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:18,240
From what I don't know, it looks
like my old boss Hurley, who's a

3053
02:24:18,240 --> 02:24:21,840
great guy at the Fan, asked me 
if I wanted to jump on with Evan

3054
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:22,720
and Tiki. 
Friday. 

3055
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:24,760
Talk, some talk some Johnnies. 
Yeah, I'll do it. 

3056
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:27,000
Of course. 
Let's go. 

3057
02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:29,520
I'll talk some Johnnies and then
I'll take over. 

3058
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:32,960
Let's go. 
Evan and Tiki. 

3059
02:24:32,960 --> 02:24:33,520
Anyway. 
Go ahead. 

3060
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:35,000
So where? 
Were where were we FA? 

3061
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:38,520
And back to my last show. 
Yo, I'll jump off those guys and

3062
02:24:38,960 --> 02:24:39,680
talk. 
Wait, I have no. 

3063
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:42,880
Good relationship. 
Would that be remote or would 

3064
02:24:42,880 --> 02:24:46,400
that be in? 
New York No, man, I'm going to 

3065
02:24:46,400 --> 02:24:47,760
be in San Diego, you 
knucklehead. 

3066
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:48,960
You're playing Friday. 
I'm an. 

3067
02:24:48,960 --> 02:24:50,320
Idiot. 
I'm my Hey John just playing 

3068
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:52,880
Friday night. 
Let me see. 

3069
02:24:52,880 --> 02:24:53,920
I don't want to divulge. 
Everything. 

3070
02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:59,120
Let's see, I've got text 
messages from Mickey Ladarullo. 

3071
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:00,040
I told you we're trying to get 
her. 

3072
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:03,000
On the show so. 
Oh, looks like she's going to 

3073
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:04,480
go. 
I got to get that taken care of.

3074
02:25:04,480 --> 02:25:08,120
Got something from Minko. 
Got something from Travel for 

3075
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:08,800
Saint. 
A lot of St. 

3076
02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:09,440
John's stuff. 
Wow. 

3077
02:25:10,600 --> 02:25:12,840
Got something from Sal saying 
get out of J Rod I text. 

3078
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:13,920
I'm like, I don't know how the 
hell I'm. 

3079
02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:16,040
Going to figure out doing this 
shit on the road. 

3080
02:25:16,040 --> 02:25:19,560
He's like, as I was texting, 
he's like, get out of J Rod. 

3081
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:21,480
That's your responsibility. 
I agree. 

3082
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:23,640
Wow. 
I mean, you got a lot of texts. 

3083
02:25:23,640 --> 02:25:25,120
I got a lot of stuff to do here.
My goodness. 

3084
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:27,440
Do you have one more text that 
we could do? 

3085
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:29,200
I think I could, Yeah. 
Wait, this is my boy. 

3086
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:30,400
This is actually a pretty good 
one. 

3087
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:31,440
This is your boy? 
Yeah. 

3088
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:33,480
From. 
Josh GABA shout out Lower East 

3089
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:39,440
Side BT judge was quoted saying 
that WBC is bigger and better 

3090
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:41,880
than the World Series. 
I'm going to need evidence of 

3091
02:25:41,880 --> 02:25:43,680
that statement. 
Yeah, wait, let me find, I will 

3092
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:45,240
need some. 
Evidence I'm not I'm not taking 

3093
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:46,840
that and I'd. 
Have to know. 

3094
02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:52,120
The context there. 
So I mean, there is now if he 

3095
02:25:52,120 --> 02:25:57,000
does, then two hours ago, yeah, 
blah blah blah, then I'm going 

3096
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:58,680
to have to crush him. 
I'm not going to Aaron Judge. 

3097
02:25:58,680 --> 02:26:01,240
Says, though, WBC has become 
baseball. 

3098
02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:06,440
'S biggest stage speaking after 
the seven to two or set after a 

3099
02:26:06,440 --> 02:26:08,640
2 to 1 semi final win. 
Over the Dominican. 

3100
02:26:08,640 --> 02:26:12,640
Republic the passion these fans 
have representing their country 

3101
02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:15,280
all right, this is a little 
different representing some of 

3102
02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:19,240
their players there's nothing 
like it let me see though that's

3103
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:21,920
different way that he's saying 
listen, here's the only thing 

3104
02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:23,080
that would bother me and I know 
he. 

3105
02:26:23,080 --> 02:26:24,680
Wouldn't say this, Baron Judge 
said. 

3106
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:27,760
Winning the WBC is more 
important than winning the World

3107
02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:29,920
Series. 
I would absolutely destroy 

3108
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:32,080
Aaron. 
I would destroy Aaron Judge. 

3109
02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:35,320
There's no way he remotely 
implying that AP was time to 

3110
02:26:35,320 --> 02:26:37,040
reach in. 
You think? 

3111
02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:38,800
Oh, let me. 
Get clicks here. 

3112
02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:40,640
Come on. 
There's no way, Aaron Judge. 

3113
02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:44,000
Is going to say that he better 
not say that No, no way. 

3114
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:47,680
I mean, he's talking about the 
the pageantry and the, you know,

3115
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:49,760
the pride in your country and 
the energy. 

3116
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:51,640
And there is more energy in the 
WBC. 

3117
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,840
As nutty as Yankee Stadium is, 
you know, the last World Series,

3118
02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:58,000
Yankees, Dodgers, it's crazier. 
I mean, come on, it's more 

3119
02:26:58,000 --> 02:26:58,920
frenetic. 
It's different. 

3120
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:01,920
It's like a soccer. 
OK, He did say no. 

3121
02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:03,120
I take it back. 
I. 

3122
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:06,920
Take it the World Series. 
I was in the crowd here. 

3123
02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:09,320
The crowd we had. 
When we played against Mexico, 

3124
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:12,240
it's bigger and better than the 
World Series. 

3125
02:27:12,360 --> 02:27:14,280
That's not what that doesn't 
bother me though. 

3126
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:17,400
Different, different, different.
That's why I said let's get 

3127
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:19,080
some. 
Research before we start taking.

3128
02:27:19,400 --> 02:27:21,960
Taking down #99 and there's no 
reason to do that. 

3129
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:24,680
That's his opinion. 
He's the one who's playing in 

3130
02:27:24,680 --> 02:27:25,760
it. 
He's the one who feels it. 

3131
02:27:25,760 --> 02:27:30,000
I got no problem with it now. 
I might read some other stuff 

3132
02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:32,520
later on which might have a 
little bit of a problem 

3133
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:35,920
tomorrow, but we're. 
So if that's the case, we shall 

3134
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:37,520
see. 
I got to wrap it up, man. 

3135
02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:38,640
I really got a lot of stuff 
long. 

3136
02:27:38,640 --> 02:27:40,400
Yeah, me. 
I got a bike to work, bro. 

3137
02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:43,880
Hey, did we go 2 1/2 hours? 
Today, yes, this is easily the 

3138
02:27:43,880 --> 02:27:45,640
longest. 
Hey, stuff. 

3139
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:49,480
Listen, BT is the man of the. 
People, I'm here for you. 

3140
02:27:49,640 --> 02:27:52,840
We got it. 
And also I mean not to. 

3141
02:27:52,840 --> 02:27:56,400
Get too meta here, but I'll say 
we kept a great audience the 

3142
02:27:56,400 --> 02:27:58,880
entire way through. 
Love it, love it. 

3143
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:00,600
Absolutely. 
So that's big. 

3144
02:28:00,840 --> 02:28:03,040
Thank you to all everyone 
watching I mean. 

3145
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:06,920
And I even saw some new regulars
in today, so I appreciate it, 

3146
02:28:06,920 --> 02:28:08,600
y'all. 
Thanks for watching. 

3147
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:10,200
I mean, obviously just hit a 
Millie. 

3148
02:28:10,280 --> 02:28:12,200
Let's keep this trainer rolling.
Yeah. 

3149
02:28:12,320 --> 02:28:14,240
Yeah, By the way, Speaking of 
Millie, why don't you get that 

3150
02:28:14,240 --> 02:28:16,480
little graphic we cook up? 
Now, we cooked up the other day.

3151
02:28:16,480 --> 02:28:17,680
Yeah, we hit a Millie. 
That's right. 

3152
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:25,400
But uh. 
If think about keep it up, like 

3153
02:28:25,400 --> 02:28:27,360
if you would have given me that,
like think about this, I would 

3154
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:30,400
have been if I didn't know what 
was going on and somebody just 

3155
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:34,760
handed me this, this picture 
like 3-3 months ago, right? 

3156
02:28:34,760 --> 02:28:37,680
Or four months ago. 
I'm like, what in the world, 

3157
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:39,560
What, what happened, What's 
going on? 

3158
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:43,720
But it's made a lot of sense and
hey, there are massive mountains

3159
02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:45,360
to climb. 
Hopefully no mountains like the 

3160
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:47,640
one in Utah where I almost lost,
where I did lose my shit. 

3161
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:52,440
That was like, that was very, 
that was like professional 

3162
02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:53,920
comedian. 
Stuff right there. 

3163
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:56,080
I'm impressed. 
Yeah, I appreciate it. 

3164
02:28:56,080 --> 02:28:58,200
Yeah. 
So that is nice man 1. 

3165
02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:00,720
Million eventually becomes 2 and
so on and so forth. 

3166
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:03,440
I need you guys to like it, 
subscribe it, get that traction 

3167
02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:04,680
out. 
When you see the shorts, share 

3168
02:29:04,680 --> 02:29:06,680
them up. 
That's how we will continue to 

3169
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:10,080
build out this channel. 
I'm here for you every day at 

3170
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:11,960
10. 
I'll figure something out on the

3171
02:29:11,960 --> 02:29:13,360
road. 
I'll do the show tomorrow cuz I 

3172
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:16,960
believe we're flying out 
tomorrow night with Saint John. 

3173
02:29:16,960 --> 02:29:18,960
So I'll be working tomorrow. 
I'll update you all. 

3174
02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:22,160
That's with all that stuff. 
Hopefully Nikki Ladarullo 

3175
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:23,480
tomorrow. 
She was a St. 

3176
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:25,560
John's fan as a kid. 
She's been covering the 

3177
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:27,080
Johnnies. 
We'll have some fun with her. 

3178
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:30,000
Looks like she's traveling out 
West as well, so we'll bring it 

3179
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:31,600
all to you. 
Man, I can't wait to get out to 

3180
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:34,200
San Diego. 
Hopefully the Johnnies go deeper

3181
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:38,040
than they did a year ago. 
The WB stuff, WBC stuff was very

3182
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:39,120
good today. 
Awesome. 

3183
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:42,480
Just basically every inning was 
like a a little teeny tiny 

3184
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,360
signature moment. 
Bigot bat, high leverage guys 

3185
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:48,360
getting thrown out on the bases,
big strikeouts, big home runs, 

3186
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:51,120
awesome. 
Awesome night watching baseball.

3187
02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:53,160
And now the United States has to
finish the job. 

3188
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:55,120
And of course, the stuff that 
Joe said about the fans. 

3189
02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:58,200
So long time today, 2 1/2 hours.
Enjoyed it? 

3190
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:03,920
See you today. 
Appreciate you guys hopping on 

3191
02:30:03,920 --> 02:30:07,920
and providing. 
Support for the channel again. 

3192
02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:09,120
Like it? 
Subscribe. 

3193
02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:13,160
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