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What's going on everybody? 
BT unleashed back on this 

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Wednesday. 
Got a got a big Nick day for 

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you. 
Nick's just took the life out of

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the Hawks immediately. 
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performance. 
Ready to roll. 

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Got a little Cam little Yankee 
debut today for for Rodriguez. 

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Little something on Soto from 
last night that was interesting.

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We got a lot to do. 
Obviously J Rod is in the house.

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Hopefully everybody's doing 
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Michael Cable joined the show. 

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Looking forward to that. 
So we get a chance to really 

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talk some some thorough Yankee 
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view, you know, whether it's 
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imminent return. 
We'll get to Lombard today as 

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well. 
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in the Bronx this year, man. 
So we'll, we'll get into that. 

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As I said, Rodriguez Yankees 
look really, really, really 

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good, really buttoned up. 
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example. 
Last night was the definition of

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coming out and just taking 
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The aggression that the Knicks 
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Not trying to sound like Clyde 
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weren't messing around like the 
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and and like there was just so 
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game, Like if you could bottle 
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play like this every single 
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the Knicks would whack them last
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J Rod, if you put down a couple 
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might a 6 1/2 layup man lay them
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Them wood, lay them wood. 
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I was too busy looking at some 
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those worked out. 
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Some Celtics and and this thing 
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could be a big advantage for the
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Obviously both teams will play 
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If the Knicks could could wrap 
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Now the next game for Philly is 
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advantage for the Sixers. 
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Atlanta. 
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obviously desperate. 
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think it's I would say it's a 
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at least a puncher's chance, a 
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Knicks, I believe the Knicks 
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I told you the Hawks won't win 
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I think it's over. 
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on, on my prediction, Nixon 6. 
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the Celtics have to play an 
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advanced scouting a little bit 
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though they they know what each 
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Last night, I mean it, there 
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last night at all. 
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great purpose. 
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quarter was not going to be a 
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in the NBA where you make a run 
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I'm not going to get that. 
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and RIP through stats, but or 
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today's not a bad day to do it 
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dunk. 
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many 35 point plus games as Shay
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playoffs. 
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the the issue with Brunson maybe
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best Knick players have been 
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39 points and you shoot 15 for 
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turnover and eight assists. 
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all time stuff. 
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Cat was to a Cat only took seven
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points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists. 
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the game. 
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adjustments the Hawks made 
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possessions for the Knicks to 
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figured things out very fast and
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Gee was great. 
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of a plus minus ratio, 10 
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And I think, and it kind of gets
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thought the minutes that 
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certainly in the first half 
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couple of runners, couple of 
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like everything was clicking and
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on the backboard. 
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one of his better games in the 
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Knicks plus 21 out rebounding. 
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the entire game. 
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outstanding. 
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the connection and, and, and, 
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whether it's their, their cuts 
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passing. 
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nuts here. 
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I've never been this guy, but I 
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guy. 
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flip flopper. 
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year has been I don't I don't I 
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the championship. 
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though it's the first round, 
even though it's the Hawks who 

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have been scrappy the first 
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you're supposed to dust the 
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So I'm not going to go nuts and 
suddenly get on the air, start a

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show and say Knicks are going to
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Knicks could win it, you know, 
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get, whether it was Game 4 where
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entirely through Cat. 
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Magic Johnson from the center 
spot or last night where where 

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Brunson figured some things out 
and he knew when to go and he 

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knew when to pull back and get 
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continue outstanding sustained 
play by OG and the bench play. 

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They just you know, last night, 
as much as this can happen in 

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the first round game for 
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series and a first round game 
for somebody who not once this 

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entire season has said that I 
thought the Knicks we're going 

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to get to the finals. 
You know, I mean, I'm I'm I'm in

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the early stages, not fully 
there yet, but I'm in the early 

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stages of beginning to, you 
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what this team could do. 
Me guys understand this. 

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It's not like, you know, we had 
these middling expectations for 

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the Knicks coming in to the 
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We all thought, including Vegas,
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certainly, you know, it's not 
the top team in the Eastern 

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Conference, one of the top two 
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Now, part of that was based on 
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they've been the last couple of 
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They played a lot of big games 
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But and we know this, a lot of 
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fact that the complexion like 
just the general state of the 

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Eastern Conference was very 
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Tatum, he's back and we'll get 
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Give J Rod a chance to RIP. 
I know he's pissed and obviously

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Halliburton and the Cavaliers, 
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play, the more you know that 
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I mean, their bigs are soft. 
So I would expect, you know, the

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the Cavaliers to really scuffle 
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They'll they'll advance, I would
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This is a two team race is A2 
team race between the Knicks and

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the Celtics to get to the NBA 
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I'm I'm not pushing the magic 
aside entirely because I've told

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you and the Knicks don't match 
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Magic. 
They are they're a good team. 

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They're an ascending team. 
They're a tough team like they 

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they're tough like they're not 
They're not going to be a 

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pushover here for either one of 
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The Celtics to the Knicks, but 
I'm feeling good. 

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I'm probably feeling about as 
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You know, I, I felt good about 
the Knicks when they won the 

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cup, even though I'm not a big 
cup guy. 

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You know, I've learned to 
embrace it. 

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I've learned to understand, you 
know what it means. 

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It's a little uptick in 
intensity. 

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It's a little uptick in theater.
You know, it's a little uptick 

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in in, you know, I, I playing 
for something during the regular

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season. 
I thought the Knicks responded 

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very well to that. 
And then they were starting to 

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bottom out after that. 
I'm like, well, did they, did 

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they exert themselves too much? 
Are they just not what we 

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thought that they would be? 
You know, the the one thing, 

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whether it's the Knicks or 
whether it's the Yankees or and 

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that this seems like a stretch, 
even though the Mets look good 

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last night. 
I'm not going to say this about 

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the Mets, but we have seen this 
in previous Mets seasons like 

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the ones even the Giants and 
dabbles first year. 

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I think we should know by now. 
And not to mention many other 

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teams across the, you know, the 
national landscape, it's not 

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always linear. 
I mean, I know we want the 1998 

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Yankees to show up and just beat
the Torah out of everybody and 

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just whack everybody into 
oblivion and force teams to tap 

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out. 
I give up. 

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You know, Uncle Daddy, I quit. 
That's not the way it always 

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goes. 
There are adjustments. 

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There are evolutions and roles. 
There are mid season 

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acquisitions that change 
dynamics and you know, whether 

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it's an Alvarado, whether it's a
Clarkson coming off the bench, 

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whether it's a different role 
for Kat, whether it's Brunson 

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beginning to internally reassess
how he plays and then obviously 

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see that play out on the court. 
Like it it just doesn't have to 

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be all right. 
Opening night, Knicks going to 

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win 65 games. 
Knicks obliterate everybody. 

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Knicks get to the finals. 
Knicks win their first 

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championship since 73. 
You know, like it. 

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It would be nice if it was that 
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That would be fun. 
Kick back, put your feet up. 

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Now we're going to beat 
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We're on cruise control. 
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three the best players in the 
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they might have in in Brunson 
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on the same page. 
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more optimistic and more bullish
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Good for you. 
Like, we're not there yet and 

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I'm not there yet. 
But there's more every like the 

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last couple of games and and not
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going back to the last month or 
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Even though the Knicks were 
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the regular season and losing to
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part, there was evidence that 
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together and adapting to the 
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And I think the Knicks style has
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is evolving and now that the 
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from Brunson. 
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inefficient this year, but you 
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Now he's starting to see a team 
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And that's why last night was 
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Like how many times it is even 
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It was a theme with this team 
where they come out, you know, 

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lackluster in the 1st. 
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teams, not just in the playoffs 
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losing by 13 or 14 points. 
And what's going on. 

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But we've learned by now that 
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NBA. 
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digits at the half, come out and
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third quarter because you go 
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Like it's a different game. 
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game, it's got to be a different
evaluation. 

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And I'm open minded to that. 
I'm all about new evaluations, 

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but I need some evidence to give
me like to serve. 

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At least that for me is an 
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differently. 
And I like what I see. 

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I really, really like what I see
with these Knicks. 

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So you got to be fired up. 
Listen, if you can't enjoy 

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playoff wins, I don't care what 
round it is. 

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I don't care what you thought 
A-Team would be going into a 

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season or during various spurts 
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If you can't enjoy a playoff 
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doing? 
Like, what are we doing? 

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There's going to be enough time,
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game against the Hawks, which I 
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But if it is, well, you know, 
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there's a different energy and 
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those emotions are different. 
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anybody. 
Even when they dropped behind in

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the series, I don't know anybody
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were going to lose the series. 
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that performance in Game 2 and 
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three. 
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thought that the Knicks would be
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and re establish their dominance
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So listen, there's a lot of 
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of a playoffs in any sport, 
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You know, whether it's the 
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football's different because if 
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mean, even hockey for sure, you 
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where you just can't put the 
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asking a goalie to make 38 saves
and flip it on his back all 

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night. 
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a short handed goalie, get 
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Like there's just a lot of a lot
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So I, I do think that at this 
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the same page. 
You, you enjoyed last night, you

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enjoyed the prior game. 
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have never wavered in your 
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right? 
That's not me. 

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You. 
We all know that. 

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OK, now I've adjusted based on 
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You know my criticisms of, of 
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But now it's like, all right, 
let's get Game 6. 

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And now you don't, you start to 
do that delicate dance of handle

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business in Game 6. 
Hope to hell that the 

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Philadelphia fans are out of 
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and they got to fight it out in 
Game 7 and get through. 

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You never know, Like if the 
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game seven, CJ McCollum, who was
invisible last night, you know, 

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could drop 27 points and not 
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problems. 
I don't anticipate that. 

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But it could happen just like it
could happen to the Celtics. 

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So it's it's good. 
This is a good day. 

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Last night was fun. 
The Garden was on fire and the 

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Garden was on fire #1 Knicks 
were making shots. 

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But really, even more than that,
the Knicks played with an 

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unrelenting tenacity. 
I mean, it was 1 and done. 

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Hawks miss a shot, bang, 
rebound. 

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Let's go get it up the court. 
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Rod Unlike who's got some 
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own about a Celtic there. 
No, I mean, just an absolutely 

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First off, great win by the 
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I mean, you saw it coming you 
after they kind of figured 

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figured the Hawks out a little 
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What was it? 
Game five, game four-game 

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four-game 4. 
You had to expect they'd come 

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out Game 5, figure out a little.
I mean, I guess you could say 

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maybe they went to cat a little 
less than maybe you were pushing

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yesterday, yes, but. 
Jay by the way, Jay by the by 

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the way, there's a reason for 
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It's all about adjustments in 
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You can see the way they were 
pressing up on that. 

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They they tried to initiate the 
offense. 

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There were a couple times he was
just like behind the three-point

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strike and he was popping the 
ball and he was looking for guys

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cutting. 
But give the no listen, Babe, 

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Quinn Snyder's good coach. 
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adjustments and then all for 
that the Knicks made their 

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adjustments, but they tried to 
funnel it through Cat. 

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They just had to go to the next 
subset, which work now. 

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Keep going. 
I didn't mean to interrupt you. 

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Keep going. 
You're good, you're good. 

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But I guess my thought now is 
yeah, I don't know. 

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Celtics are looking brutal, 
dude. 

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Fear granted, listen, I'm I'm a 
real I'm a Celtics fan, but I'm 

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a realistic fan. 
I I had the Knicks over them 

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before these playoffs start. 
Then once Knicks fell down to 

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one I was like, all right, 
Celtics are looking good. 

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We're up three, one last night 
just kind of took the soul out 

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of me because here's here's 
where I'm really concerned. 

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All right, First two games we 
played in the series, no Joel 

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Embiid. 
We're looking good. 

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We're beating him. 
He comes back that first game or

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sorry, first three games. 
Do they play with that one? 

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He comes back that first game. 
Last game, he has an OK game, 

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but we still smack them. 
Last night, it's really Joel 

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Embiid, his first game in his 
full form, 33 points, 11 

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rebounds, destroys the Celtics. 
And here's what has me 

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concerned. 
I think we'll still win in six, 

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but take us to the next round 
versus a center who right now is

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obviously more healthier than 
MBD. 

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You know, obviously can put more
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give you buckets down low, give 
you buckets up high. 

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It's got me worried. 
It's. 

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Got me. 
OK, OK, that's a good assessment

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of where the Celtics are and and
what it might mean for the 

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Knicks Celtics next round. 
Let me ask you this. 

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So the emotions that the Knicks 
fans are unpacking right now, 

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they're all positive right now. 
Are you more angry or are you 

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more worried or or are you more 
disappointed? 

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Disappoint, I think it's I think
it's a, a, a word. 

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It's not angry. 
It's more of a worry and a 

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disappointment because it's a 
lot of disappointment into the 

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Celtics role players. 
I mean, Prichard was the only 

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player other than Tatum or 
Jaylen Brown to score over 10 

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last night. 
When that happens, that's crazy.

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You're not you're not going to 
win a game. 

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And the sadder thing about that 
is I think that is something 

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that can happen on multiple 
nights. 

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Like that's not, it's not an 
absolute anomaly for some 

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Celtics players to score for 
most of the Celtics roster to 

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score under 10. 
I mean, Vucevic, he could not 

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hit his shots. 
He could get absolutely clamped 

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in the paint. 
Hauser They're just too reliant 

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on the three-point shot and I 
have too many players who are 

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inconsistent with that 3 point. 
Shot where it's. 

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Like you're, you're banking on 
too much so. 

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I'm worried. 
I'm a little worried, a little 

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fear for the Celtic fan. 
I don't mind that. 

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Paul the Paul Bigelow 4468 Nixon
6. 

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All right, appreciate that you 
listen. 

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I mean, you gotta love that. 
How about this gangrene? 

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David Dash PD7 OI appreciate 
both of those super chats. 

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Thank you. 
Boys went to the game last 

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night. 
Place was electric. 

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Yeah, place was popping. 
Man might, might, might bite the

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bullet and go to the next round 
as well. 

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I, I saw something on and I'm 
not trying to take a shot at the

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Mets because you could get, you 
know, last second Yankee tickets

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cheap as well on the secondary 
market. 

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There was some, some somebody 
tweeted last night or yesterday 

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that you can buy 80 met tickets 
for the same price of one Nick 

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tick. 
Now that's not really fair 

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because Nick playoff tickets are
always up the ass. 

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I mean, it's, it's ridiculous to
to be able to afford going to, 

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let alone one. 
But multiple games here, as many

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people do I, I get that. 
But that that was pretty wild 

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when I saw that. 
I don't understand this Phook 

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your couch BT alright. 
Should have kept your original 

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prediction of a dominant win by 
the Knicks. 

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I didn't see it, but props to 
you. 

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What did you see that made you 
think like that? 

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So I'm confused. 
You should have kept your 

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original prediction of a 
dominant win by the Knicks. 

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I did. 
I never once wavered from. 

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I had a couple of tweets during 
the game where I'm like, you 

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know, suck the soul out of them.
Keep your foot on the gas. 

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I never deviated from that. 
Now I don't know if you're 

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talking about my my opinion of 
my my take going into the series

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where I initially said on that 
Monday before the Saturday game 

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one, I said Nixon 5. 
And then I Tuesday or Wednesday,

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I amended that before the series
started and I said Nixon 6, 

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which is what's going to happen.
So I'm a little confused that by

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that. 
What it so it's it's a little 

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bit of a conflicting message 
there. 

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What did I see that made me 
think like that? 

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If you're talking about why did 
I think the Knicks would whack 

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them last night #1 the Knicks 
are just better #2 you know, 

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the, the point spread, which I 
don't, I mean, listen, I always 

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follow that stuff for sure. 
I don't, I don't base opinions 

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based on the point spread, but I
will certainly, you know, when I

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throw down a couple of the 
Bucks, I'm going to, I'm going 

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to look at trends and I'm going 
to look at that for sure. 

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I, I, I love that stuff and 
I've, I've been in, in that 

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stuff, you know, I, I've looked 
at the numbers in the, the 

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gambling aspect forever. 
That's a big part of what I do. 

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I don't talk about it a lot 
during the show, but we will a 

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lot more during football season.
We do a lot of futures and props

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and stuff like that for sure. 
I just, I know the Knicks are 

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better and I just like 
stylistically the, the 

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adjustments that they've made. 
They, you know, and they said it

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last night too. 
I think it was Reggie, right, 

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right before they were tipping 
up the ball. 

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They were like, you know, hey, 
this is the regular seasons for 

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them is exactly what he said. 
The regular seasons for the 

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players and the and the playoffs
really for the coaches where 

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they distinguish themselves game
to game night tonight, whatever.

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And, and within the game, not 
just like from Game 2 to game 

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three or Game 5 to Game 6, but 
you know, the first quarter in 

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midway through the second 
quarter, you see different 

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things. 
They get you on your heels a 

444
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,360
little bit. 
All right, Hey, we, we thought 

445
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,560
that they might do this now 
based on that expectation, we're

446
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,880
about to do this. 
And then the onus is on, say, 

447
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,560
Quinn Snyder or, you know, 
whomever you're playing to make 

448
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,920
an adjustment to the adjustment 
that you just made to their 

449
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,080
adjustment, if that made sense, 
which I think it did. 

450
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720
All right. 
Yeah. 

451
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,200
By the way, Michael K tomorrow, 
if you guys just tuned in, a lot

452
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,000
of Yankees. 
I'll get to Schlittler here. 

453
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,680
I'm going to get some other 
stuff. 

454
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,800
But just just just fun. 
Just fun, energizing, fun. 

455
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,480
Builds confidence. 
You know, Mike, it's funny to 

456
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,680
Mike Tirico. 
So Mike Tirico's from Queens, 

457
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,560
right? 
But I, I don't look at Mike 

458
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,360
Tirico as a Queens guy. 
I, I don't know what maybe 

459
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,680
because he's done so much 
national stuff and, and it's not

460
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,080
a shot of Mike. 
I think Mike's great. 

461
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,400
You know, I think he's very 
likable. 

462
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,680
I think he's very good 
mechanically on the air. 

463
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,760
I bumped in, I remember bumping 
into a few times over the years 

464
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280
when I was with ESPN. 
Good guy, personable, affable, 

465
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,120
good dude and and very talented,
highest level broadcaster you 

466
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,640
could be. 
But he is from Queens and he was

467
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,600
talking about it last night. 
Like when I think about like I 

468
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,720
think Mike Breen, I think, you 
know, playing I think Mike was 

469
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,520
at Stefanak, right? 
Mike played in the in the 

470
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,480
Catholic League. 
Like I don't know, Mike and then

471
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,400
he started up at Maris calling 
games before, you know, and then

472
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,200
he was on I miss like to me, 
Mike Breen. 

473
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,480
I just think Mike. 
I think the local guy, you know,

474
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,320
I think they're I think Gary 
Cohen. 

475
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,080
You know, Gary Cohen grew up a 
Mets fan, obviously Michael K 

476
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,640
for the Bronx Yankee fan. 
That's different because though,

477
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,400
even though Gary does some other
stuff and Michael does some 

478
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,160
national games in the playoffs 
there, you know, when the 

479
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,720
Yankees games are are subbed out
to the other to the other 

480
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240
outlets. 
But Mike did say something last 

481
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,480
night and and I really never 
thought about it in these terms,

482
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,360
even though I'm very well aware 
of it, painfully aware of it. 

483
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,080
So when the Rangers won the 
Stanley Cup in in 1994, you 

484
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,680
know, it was always about 
exorcising, exorcising the 

485
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,200
demons of, you know, 1940 like 
forever, You know, almost 55 

486
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,000
years without a championship. 
And when you think about it in 

487
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600
the context of where the Knicks 
have been, when you look up at 

488
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,680
the batters in the last 
championship batter, you see a 

489
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,040
73. 
That's when Pearlman Pearl was 

490
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,520
not there for the first 
championship. 

491
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,680
That's when he joined Clyde in 
the back court in the Knicks 

492
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,600
one. 
And, you know, we know that the 

493
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,680
pain of the of the Knicks 
drought, but and and this 

494
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320
century, outside of the last, 
you know, half a decade or so 

495
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,080
and and one or two good years, 
interesting years with Carmelo. 

496
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,920
I mean, this century has been as
deflating and as depressing as 

497
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,400
you could possibly have as a 
fan. 

498
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,480
I mean, it really was like The 
Jets have been for 15 years, no 

499
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,840
playoffs or like the Detroit 
Lions before this recent 

500
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,200
renaissance. 
I know they had a bad year this 

501
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,200
year, but you know, the last 
couple before that Campbell, 

502
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,960
obviously better quarterback 
play. 

503
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,280
Lions fans really, really 
feeling good even off last year 

504
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960
about the prospects of being 
able to get back to being a 

505
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,800
player this year in the NFC with
the Commanders before they crack

506
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,400
through to the and and the and 
the former the former Redskins 

507
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,920
before they crack through and 
beat the Lions right a couple of

508
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,320
years ago in the playoffs. 
You know, the, the association 

509
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,040
of the length that has gone on, 
the amount of time that is 

510
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,880
passed from the last Knicks 
championship. 

511
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,440
It just doesn't seem like it's 
similar to what the Rangers went

512
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,640
through. 
I don't know why. 

513
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,920
Maybe because I'm not as big a 
hockey fan and like the Rangers 

514
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840
pay. 
I, I, I don't even, I don't even

515
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,280
have a theory for it. 
I don't know. 

516
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,560
It just seemed like the Rangers 
hadn't won for 100 years. 

517
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,240
And, and maybe because I don't 
know, maybe if I could theorize 

518
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,480
out loud, maybe it's because 
Clyde is still part of, of, of 

519
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,560
the broadcast and he's still 
there. 

520
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,120
Maybe it's because, you know, 
they were so good with Patrick 

521
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,760
and they were knocking on the 
door for so many years that it 

522
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,400
didn't seem as painful. 
And as as time goes on, if 

523
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,600
you're a player and you know, 
Eastern Conference semis, 

524
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,920
Eastern Conference finals, you 
get to the finals in 94, you get

525
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,360
back there in 99 with Spree and 
a bit of a different team, 

526
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,800
obviously Larry Johnson and and 
Patrick was a very secondary 

527
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,000
player on that team. 
Alan Houston, of course, off the

528
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,960
front rim at it. 
I I just never look at it 

529
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,040
through that prism. 
But it's real. 

530
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,680
And I'm not saying that that 
drought is about to end now. 

531
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,680
I mean, that would be that would
be a ridiculous flip flop. 

532
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,560
But what I am saying is that 
like the convincing process as 

533
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960
it is, at least in the early 
stages of. 

534
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,600
OK. 
And I've always said, I hope I'm

535
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,120
wrong. 
Listen, come on, New Yorker, 

536
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:39,240
nowhere I want to be wrong. 
Come on. 

537
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,120
Maybe, maybe this is the year 
that we will be surprised. 

538
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:47,520
Like does anybody think, I don't
know when you have certain 

539
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840
teams, right? 
And, and at least in New York, 

540
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000
right, those and those certain 
teams would, no disrespect, but 

541
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,200
it is what it is, would be The 
Jets and the Mets, right? 

542
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,400
And and to a lesser extent the 
Knicks, right? 

543
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,640
Like I don't, even though I love
what The Jets did in the draft 

544
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,280
and they've got 3 next year and 
The Jets should have like I, I 

545
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,760
keep seeing these mocks for next
year. 

546
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,720
I know that they could trade up,
but anybody who thinks that The 

547
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,120
Jets are going to finish top 
three just based on the record 

548
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,800
without trading up, I think 
you're out of your mind. 

549
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,160
Like I think The Jets are going 
to actually be very watchable 

550
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320
and offensively very interesting
with, you know, four or five 

551
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,640
guys with sub 440 speed. 
I've talked about this, right? 

552
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,480
The point is not to get into The
Jets right now necessarily. 

553
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,240
But like any when The Jets do 
punch through, if they punch 

554
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,280
through and like when the Mets 
punch through, if they punch 

555
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,640
through and when the Knicks 
punch through, if they punch 

556
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,480
through, don't you think it's 
going to be a little bit element

557
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,920
of surprise? 
Like, I don't know, like I think

558
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,840
when the Yankees win their next,
and it could be this year, 

559
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,400
Yankees look phenomenal. 
I'll get to them in a minute. 

560
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,440
But like when the Yankees win 
for the first time since 2009, 

561
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,680
nobody's going to be surprised. 
I I I don't think part of it is 

562
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,640
because it's the Yankees, but 
also because I think, you know, 

563
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,760
even though they haven't won for
so long, the Yankees have been 

564
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,320
one of the best teams in 
baseball and the stats bear that

565
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,360
out for a long time, even with 
all the frustrations with the 

566
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,240
roster construction. 
Brian Cash. 

567
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,680
But it's not earned the right. 
All that stuff that I've gone 

568
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,920
through chapter and verse. 
But like, I don't know, the 

569
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,560
thought was maybe this will put 
in better context, like the Mets

570
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,120
coming off a really good year 
couple of years ago, Vientos 

571
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,880
hammers the ball in October, 
Pete's big home run against 

572
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,920
Devin Williams. 
You know, and then, all right, 

573
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,280
you lose to a better team. 
And a lot of those games were 

574
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560
fairly lopsided. 
Mets gave up a lot of runs. 

575
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,680
You know, the Dodgers punk them 
most, most games and the the 

576
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000
aggregate score was was 
ridiculously lopsided in favor 

577
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,640
of the Dodgers. 
But then you get Juan Soto and 

578
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,160
the the obvious thought, which I
understood was all right, man, 

579
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,680
you got to take Juan Soto and 
now add him to the Mets. 

580
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,200
Let's take the logical step. 
But it's for some of these 

581
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
teams. 
It just doesn't seem to happen 

582
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920
that way, right. 
It just doesn't even when The 

583
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Jets and there's a million years
ago. 

584
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,880
I forget about the wreck stuff 
with the back-to-back AFC, but 

585
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000
that was even very unexpected. 
I mean, he had a rookie 

586
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,320
quarterback and then he was a 
young a second year quarterback 

587
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,400
and the defense led the way. 
But like when The Jets got to 

588
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,080
the AFC Championship in 1998, 
you know, the previous year they

589
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,440
were a nine win team, Bill 
Parcells his first year. 

590
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,720
The year before that they had 
one win and the year before that

591
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,560
they had three. 
And that, of course, was the 

592
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,600
rich go tight comedy show of 
errors, right. 

593
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,960
So maybe the Knicks are going to
follow the same script that I 

594
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,440
just presented to you for 
whenever the Mets crack through 

595
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,240
and whatever The Jets crack 
through, right? 

596
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600
Like, it's not going to be all 
right. 

597
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,240
You know, we've got, you know, 
and we've got the MVP like Shay 

598
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Gilgeous Alexander, or we've got
like, Patrick Ewing 2 point O 

599
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,560
and we've got Pat Riley 2 point 
O as a coach. 

600
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Maybe the Knicks road to 
whenever that championship 

601
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,920
comes, it's going to be, you 
know, early on rooted in 

602
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240
frustration and a lack of 
conviction and all sorts of 

603
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840
emotions. 
And then they figure things out 

604
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,760
and then they punch their ticket
in a very unexpected way. 

605
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,320
I don't I don't know. 
I mean, listen to converse. 

606
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Could be, you know, the Knicks 
win by 13 against the Hawks. 

607
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,200
The Sixers and the Celtics beat 
the shit out of each other for 

608
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,240
seven games. 
And then the Knicks beat the 

609
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Celt. 
And it's like on cruise mode. 

610
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,160
Like, I don't expect that 
because it's really never easy 

611
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000
for the Knicks, but we shall 
see. 

612
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160
All right, J Rod, let me get the
calls here. 

613
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440
Guys, fire up the chat. 
Let's get the Subs going. 

614
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Let's go. 
Who is first up today? 

615
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200
What do you got there, Jay? 
We've got our man Benji from the

616
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Upper East Side. 
Benji. 

617
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Oh, I know. 
He's been at these games. 

618
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,360
He's invited me. 
Benji, what's going on, brother?

619
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,880
How you feel today? 
Besides, Awesome. 

620
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:44,120
What's up man, it's my birthday 
and salute we 45 halfway there. 

621
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Happy birthday man. 
At least. 

622
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Thanks BT Hopefully the next one
could have been you last night, 

623
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,880
but it's all good. 
Who'd? 

624
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560
You say did you go with the wife
or did you take a buddy? 

625
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,400
No, I just took a good friend. 
Oh, there you. 

626
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840
Go do you have let's let's let 
now. 

627
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880
Is your nick, Is your wife a big
Knicks fan or she go because of 

628
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,840
you? 
She is. 

629
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520
She is through osmosis, but when
it comes down to it, she doesn't

630
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,720
really care that much. 
OK, so let's be honest that as 

631
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,560
long as she's not listening to 
the show, you can say whatever 

632
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560
you want to say. 
Who do you have more fun going 

633
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,960
to the game with? 
Your wife or your What are your 

634
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,840
best buddies? 
Come on. 

635
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,040
No comment man on that come. 
On I'll answer for you. 

636
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,680
I think I already did. 
No worries man, she'll probably 

637
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,840
go with me to game one, game 
three of the the next series or 

638
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,320
game one if Philly Philly takes 
it. 

639
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,680
I. 
Like it Hey, by the way, real 

640
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,280
quick. 
So you're turning 45 again. 

641
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Happy birthday everybody wish 
him a happy birthday in the 

642
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,120
chat. 
That's awesome. 

643
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800
What at what when you because 
think about when you were a kid.

644
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,280
I remember when I was like 
891012 you'd meet somebody in 

645
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,240
their 30s My God, they're 33. 
They're so old. 

646
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,040
At what point did you what do 
you regret's not the right word?

647
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,960
Because birthdays are a 
beautiful gift from God. 

648
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000
But like, when do you lament 
getting older? 

649
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Do you feel like 45 is old? 
Where were you that internally? 

650
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,560
Because I always find that 
interesting with people. 

651
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,120
I you know what, the last few 
years I'd say like once I was 

652
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,080
like late 30s, it didn't. 
It hasn't really. 

653
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,600
I haven't really thought too 
much about it. 

654
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640
I think you hit a point when 
you're beyond your mid 20s post 

655
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,240
post college where you sort of 
accept, you know, the direction 

656
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,440
that your life is going and how 
your body feels, you know, after

657
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,880
playing basketball, that type of
stuff. 

658
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,320
But. 
Yeah, yeah. 

659
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,200
Good. 
That's a good answer. 

660
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,040
I got you. 
All right. 

661
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,640
Well, love the show, man. 
Like, like you said, we're, 

662
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,200
we're really asserting as my 
friend, my good friend John 

663
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280
Edelman likes to say, we're 
asserting our dominance, which 

664
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,640
is really what is getting you so
excited, getting me so excited. 

665
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200
And you know me as somebody 
that's been on the front lines 

666
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:44,240
defending Cat all season, to see
him play impeccably to be on and

667
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080
to quote quote Clyde omnipotent 
omnipresence. 

668
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,680
He's just he's playing so smart.
It's it's it's an efficiency 

669
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,640
level, which is he's always been
efficient. 

670
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360
But now, I mean, last night, 
seven shots, he's averaging 

671
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,240
under 11 shots per game in the 
series. 

672
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,560
He's shooting about 60% from the
field, about 50 from the 50 from

673
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,000
390 from the line. 
I don't think enough that that 

674
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,280
doesn't get talked about as 
much. 

675
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,080
And then I, I think this doesn't
matter now, but I think I just 

676
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080
want to pose this to, you know, 
to your show and to your callers

677
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,640
and to your listeners. 
I think he deserves serious 

678
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,040
consideration for the Hall of 
Fame because I'm looking down 

679
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,680
the line another three or four 
years. 

680
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,600
And then I think again, I think 
another big story here which 

681
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640
doesn't get talked about enough 
is Clarkson's transformation to 

682
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,160
being this seemingly low IQ. 
Like chucker, chucker, right 

683
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,040
chucker. 
Yeah, yeah. 

684
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:44,000
Now I'm seeing a very smart, 
unselfish, calculated, high IQ 

685
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,240
basketball player that's working
on defense. 

686
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,920
So that has been a major story 
that's happened over the last 

687
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,000
couple of months 'cause he was 
out of the rotation basically 

688
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
until, I know, early March. 
And then once he played in that 

689
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,560
Lakers game and then ultimately 
that Utah game where he returned

690
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,200
and and dominated and helped us 
win. 

691
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,240
He's been a huge story, enough 
so that we got to see how 

692
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280
everything goes. 
I want him back next year. 

693
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,840
I love what he's brought to the 
table. 

694
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,480
It's an interesting observation 
man. 

695
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Enjoy your birthday. 
I'm I'm happy you started with 

696
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,120
with calling into the show and 
have a great day man. 

697
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,520
And anything special up or would
you maybe go to dinner? 

698
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
What do you got? 
Yeah, I got a nice Chinese spot 

699
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,800
dinner tonight, but honestly, 
for I don't need to tell you BT 

700
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,800
we got to wrap these series up 
and finish off these damn birds 

701
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,400
and that tomorrow night for 
let's go for numerous reasons. 

702
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,200
Let's go let let's clip the 
wings and send them home. 

703
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Good job right there. 
Hey, by the way, Speaking of 

704
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,200
birds, thank you, Benji. 
I don't know if I said this on 

705
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,480
the air, if I was telling one of
my buddies, did I show you the 

706
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,160
picture of the eggs? 
Did I show you this, Jay? 

707
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,480
I don't know what is it, I don't
think. 

708
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,920
I got this is amazing. 
I mean, you know, I like I love.

709
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,760
I don't know if I've really said
this on the show too much, but I

710
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,520
I love. 
I love nature, like I'll watch 

711
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Discovery. 
I love. 

712
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,400
You on a big kick too. 
Yeah. 

713
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080
Oh you, you are. 
A big nature video kick. 

714
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Yeah, OK. 
I love it. 

715
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Like I love watching how they 
hunt and, you know, how they 

716
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,920
protect their offspring, you 
know, whether it's in Africa, 

717
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,120
the safari or in like in Alaska 
with, you know, bears and all 

718
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,120
that and just how they hunt 
trout, not hunt, but you know, 

719
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,920
grab trout at it. 
Like I love that stuff, right. 

720
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,080
So the other day I was going out
to the back. 

721
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,000
I got to pull this picture up. 
It's one of the most beautiful 

722
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,280
pictures I think I've ever taken
and that I've certainly that 

723
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,960
I've ever seen, at least from my
phone. 

724
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,840
I don't mean like a professional
photographer that's in the 

725
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,520
wilderness or in a safari. 
So I go out in the backyard to, 

726
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,760
to let my daughter pitch. 
Like she's trying to learn how 

727
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,520
to pitch. 
And you know, it's, it's, it's, 

728
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,239
it's underhanded. 
So it's different. 

729
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,199
Like when, when a young boy's 
trying to learn how to pitch, at

730
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:46,239
least it's following, you know, 
the normal overhand throw and 

731
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600
you know, we have a couple of 
girls on the rec team that then 

732
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,199
that are older, but also travel 
pitchers. 

733
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,719
So like, I can't just throw her 
out there because she's my 

734
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,120
daughter. 
We got to work on it, right? 

735
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,600
I, I got to still coach the 
right way. 

736
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,440
And it's, she's showing this 
great initiative to, to really 

737
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,960
learn how to do. 
We're going to get a lessons and

738
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,520
all that stuff. 
So we've been going out in the 

739
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600
yard a lot like before practice 
before games and she'll pitch to

740
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,440
me anyway when you go out. 
So right outside my office would

741
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,920
be my stairs that go down to the
man cave that has a door that 

742
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640
leads to the outside with the 
with the tile underneath the 

743
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,640
deck and the basketball hoop and
all that stuff right now right 

744
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,320
to the left of the door. 
And I'm walking out the other 

745
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,760
day and like 2 like it was, I 
thought it was 2, but it may 

746
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,040
have just been 10. 
Out of nowhere this bird goes 

747
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,760
scared the shit out of me. 
Like I walk. 

748
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560
It was like boom. 
I was like what the what I what 

749
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,960
was that? 
Now what had happened was the, 

750
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,720
the top of our light that kind 
of illuminates part of the patio

751
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,640
fell off. 
I think in the wind. 

752
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,440
We get this very windy because 
we're up on a little bit of a 

753
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,560
hill. 
And what the birds do is they 

754
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,280
take their little twigs and they
take their little degrass and 

755
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,280
then they pack it and they make 
their little mess, right. 

756
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,000
So I'm like, and and and and 
they did that last year and I 

757
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
had to clean it out and I forgot
to get a new I didn't, I never 

758
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,440
fixed the light because I'm 
whatever. 

759
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,120
So anyway, we walk out, the bird
flies and I'm like, hold on to 

760
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,120
my to my daughter. 
Let me go get my phone. 

761
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,720
I want to see what's in there, 
so I reach up and I take a 

762
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:11,200
picture. 
Look at this dude. 

763
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Let's see. 
No way. 

764
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,360
How amazing is that? 
How amazing is that? 

765
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Yeah, I mean, they're like 
perfect blue too. 

766
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440
It's like Easter eggs, like the 
kids paid for the for the for 

767
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000
their Easter Bunny. 
And I before I even got my phone

768
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
because I just thought it was 
like the compressed dirt and the

769
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,000
mud like it was when I cleaned 
it out at the end of the fall, 

770
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,800
right? 
And of course they're back for 

771
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,040
the spring. 
So I initially before I got my 

772
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200
folks, I left my phone in my 
office to go pitch, right? 

773
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,240
And I reach in like, and I felt 
an egg. 

774
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,240
I'm like, whoa, I'm like, I 
didn't want to make sure I 

775
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,640
didn't crack anything. 
Like I, I was very gentle, but 

776
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,640
again, it scares the shit out of
me. 

777
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,200
It just all, it was like, what, 
what's that? 

778
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,880
So then I'm like, I, I took a 
video. 

779
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,320
I'm like, that's and how? 
And then we went back. 

780
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,800
This was like a week and a half 
ago. 

781
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,400
Then we went back out yesterday.
She's like, oh dad, you know, 

782
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,520
you think the the eggs hatchet. 
I'm like, let me see. 

783
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,240
This time I had my phone click. 
Nope, little bit bigger still 

784
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:02,920
there. 
Cool. 

785
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,680
So I mean, you'll probably be 
able to see it happen, at least 

786
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,640
see the baby birds at some 
point. 

787
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,800
Yeah, if you're lucky. 
Yeah, I remember when we, 

788
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,640
because we, we built our home 
right up up on this big, this 

789
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080
big hilltop. 
And I remember the kids were 

790
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480
really young. 
We moved in here like December 

791
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,680
of 2018 and I was still working 
with Teek. 

792
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,240
You know, it was years ago and 
years ago now. 

793
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,840
God, time's really flying. 
It was. 

794
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,840
We moved in a week before 
Christmas. 

795
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,800
Talk about a tough move in like 
a week before Santa got to get 

796
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,480
the trip. 
Like literally just moved in. 

797
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,360
So we didn't even have like 
fences up. 

798
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,520
I had to have a guy come put up 
a big white fence in the 

799
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,560
backyard because, you know, 
there's animals and stuff. 

800
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,040
So I just hold on. 
What is that? 

801
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:54,360
OK, so I, I remember like 
looking out at the yard and I, I

802
00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:00,240
was like, I have to do something
to spark some sort of love of 

803
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,440
nature within my children, 
right. 

804
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,600
And we had like the butterfly 
where you buy the butterfly net 

805
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,320
and and like the little 
Caterpillar turns into the 

806
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,600
butterfly. 
So we told them about that. 

807
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,400
That was great. 
And then like I always told my 

808
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,680
children, I'm like, hey, if you 
see an animal like a little 

809
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080
tight, like a don't, don't step 
on an Ant. 

810
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,240
Don't just kill an Ant. 
Don't just like don't just kill 

811
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,440
a bug. 
I mean, it's bugs, got a family,

812
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,280
what are we doing? 
And you know, in my mind as as a

813
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,000
young dad at that point, you try
to instill that so that they 

814
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,360
just respect life. 
Like that was something that was

815
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,360
important to me. 
So anyway, I put, I wanted birds

816
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,280
to come, so I got this. 
I was so proud as a dad and as a

817
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,240
first time homeowner. 
Now the fence is up and I get 

818
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,480
this beautiful bird feeder and I
stick all the seeds in there and

819
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,960
I got Bluebirds, Blue Jays, you 
know, Cardinals coming in. 

820
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680
I'm like, come on guys, you 
know, come on, look, we're going

821
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,040
on the deck. 
Come on, look, the birds are 

822
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,680
here. 
They're eating. 

823
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,040
And then all the squirrels came,
and my. 

824
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Wife got pissed like. 
You got to get rid of this damn 

825
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,480
thing. 
The squirrels everywhere. 

826
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,160
They're I'm like, all right. 
Because what would happen? 

827
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,840
The squirrels would find their 
way in and they would just, you 

828
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,320
know, they would just climb the 
thing, you know, jump through 

829
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,920
trees to get to the bird feeder.
And they were the ones who were,

830
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,840
you know, you'd see the birds 
once in a while anyway. 

831
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Whatever. 
A tale as old as time, really. 

832
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Yeah, it really is. 
It really is. 

833
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Now, are you into Shark Week? 
Are you a big Shark Week guy? 

834
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:23,040
No, not really that, but I mean,
I just, I think when I like did 

835
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,800
just something with the 
intersection of like, I remember

836
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,240
hearing a lot about it when I 
was like elementary school age, 

837
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,560
but at that time I still wasn't 
like I wasn't the one always 

838
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,400
with the TV remote in my hand or
something like that. 

839
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,480
So I wasn't really controlling 
it. 

840
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,720
What I, what I've really got 
into are like people building 

841
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:48,360
small terrariums out of like sea
water or like lake water and 

842
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,560
then looking at like the 
microscopic creatures in it. 

843
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,760
OK, I don't know. 
Look at you. 

844
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,320
I like it. 
Have you ever gotten like 

845
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,560
snorkeling or anything? 
Like that one time in in Puerto 

846
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Rico, me and my brother went. 
So it's like they're like 

847
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,240
naturally there are, there isn't
a ton of like wildlife, but 

848
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:07,920
there are like some turtles, 
some fish. 

849
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. 
Little Ocean. 

850
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,480
I actually took a course. 
Oceanography. 

851
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,720
I love it. 
I remembered this before kids, I

852
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:18,280
think we were in Turks and 
Caicos and just my wife and I 

853
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,520
and my buddies like, dude, when 
you jump in the work and I told 

854
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,000
him I was going to go 
snorkeling, right? 

855
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,480
When you get in there, you've 
got to. 

856
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,920
And of course, the guy on the 
boats, like, you know, no food. 

857
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,880
Yeah, but I knew what I wanted 
to do. 

858
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,920
I did some research on it. 
I'm like, oh, my buddies, right,

859
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480
this will happen. 
So I was eating a bagel, right? 

860
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,720
I took half of it. 
No butter. 

861
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:38,200
I was going to put butter in the
water, but I, I, I remember 

862
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,120
sticking the bread, you know, 
crumpling up 1/2 of the bagel, 

863
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,040
sticking into my bathing suit. 
And then when you jump in the 

864
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,600
water, obviously it's going to 
get soft. 

865
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,840
And then what you do is you 
disperse it, right? 

866
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,040
And all, the, all the bread, you
know, it's now soft and pliable 

867
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,160
and it goes in older. 
And as soon as that happens, 

868
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,640
fish come out of no. 
And I remember, like, I thought 

869
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,280
I was getting attacked. 
I'm like, is there a shark here?

870
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Like, am I going to get stung? 
Like, I was surrounded, But they

871
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160
were, like, yellow and bright. 
Anyway, I love that stuff. 

872
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,040
So I wanted to show you guys 
that picture. 

873
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,240
All right, let's get back to the
calls. 

874
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,880
That was a long deviation from 
an awesome night by the Knicks. 

875
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,080
So hopefully I didn't bore you 
to tears. 

876
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,560
What do we got next here, Jay? 
Go ahead. 

877
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,920
We've got St. from London, UK. 
SSTST in the house. 

878
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,880
What up man, What's up? 
BT listen, can you hear me? 

879
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,840
I got you brother. 
Excellent man First off, just a 

880
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,400
couple of things props to the 
Knicks. 

881
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,600
It was a long night, but I 
worked from home today, so I was

882
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,920
able to follow that given the 
time difference, very, very 

883
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,280
happy. 
I, I wanted to just say like, 

884
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,440
even though Brunson had the big 
box score, right, I think we 

885
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,320
need to give, you know, not an 
honorable mention, but a big 

886
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,120
shout out to the rest of the 
team, especially Cat, because he

887
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,760
looks to me in the past few 
games that he's being great like

888
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,480
Shaq told him to do. 
I love the fact that coach has 

889
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,560
got this, you know, soft 8 hard 
9 rotation. 

890
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,680
That's very interesting for me. 
I guess my so I got 2 questions 

891
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,280
before you cut me off. 
The first one is why do you 

892
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,520
think that rotation is now 
coming to the forefront of what 

893
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,560
his adjustments are? 
Do you think it's because of 

894
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,120
Bridges lack of production or do
you think he understands that 

895
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,880
not taking both Cat and Brunson 
off at the same time to leaving 

896
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,200
one of them on is more suitable 
to the style of play? 

897
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:33,720
And does this resonate only with
this team, our opponent that's 

898
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,960
in front of us, or is this going
to be applicable to the team's 

899
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,880
going forward in the? 
Playoffs, it's going to be it's 

900
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,040
going to be a very different 
matchup. 

901
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,680
You know, we just talked about 
that's a good question too. 

902
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,480
No, you know, sometimes you'll 
get a team that's a little 

903
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,720
similar like the just just from 
a matchup, especially back in 

904
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,000
the day, like the Pacers were 
very obviously red. 

905
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,840
You could shoot, but we're very 
physical with the Davis brothers

906
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,160
upfront. 
The heat were very physical. 

907
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,200
I mean, Jordan was a completely 
different problem, but even 

908
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Horace Grant was physical 
upfront. 

909
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,800
So every matchup is different. 
Every matchup is unique. 

910
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,600
I do think that part of it is 
born out of the the 

911
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,400
inconsistencies and sometimes 
the invisibility of Mikhail 

912
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Bridges. 
I think that that opened up a 

913
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
part of his brain where he's 
like, I can't just keep running 

914
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,760
this guy out there when he's 
really not doing a damn thing. 

915
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,160
But I also think that, you know,
that you learn to trust guys the

916
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,840
more that the more that they're 
around you. 

917
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,760
You know, whether it's a 
Clarkson, whether it's an 

918
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,880
Alvarado. 
Alvarado right away played when 

919
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,640
he first was, was dealt here and
then he was pinned to the bench 

920
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,040
for a little bit. 
Remember, he learned to trust 

921
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Kolik early in the year and then
and then he and then he lost 

922
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,320
faith for because Kolik just 
didn't play as well. 

923
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,080
So I think it's part of adapting
to, to what's new and and also 

924
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,200
being amenable to change. 
And I think that that comes from

925
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,560
the rest of the coaches. 
Like Mike Brown to me seems to 

926
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,920
be 1 of like in the ultimate 
delegator. 

927
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,960
That's a good thing when it when
it works, it's it's a bad thing 

928
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,520
when it doesn't like you, you 
want to empower your coaching 

929
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,360
staff, right? 
But at the same time, you know, 

930
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
you've got to make sure that 
your vision is not compromised. 

931
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,200
I'll give you an example like a 
lot of times, and there's been 

932
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,480
this way with The Jets too, 
right? 

933
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,120
And take Robert Solemn when he 
was coach of The Jets, Jets 

934
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,880
defense was really good with 
Robert Solemn. 

935
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,520
The Jets offense was asked, 
well, you know, and I didn't 

936
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,760
like like the pass to run ratio.
I'm not trying to get in the 

937
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,280
weeds of The Jets, but I I think
this will illuminate my point. 

938
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,120
And what I would always say, I 
would say this on the radio, on 

939
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,200
the fan. 
I'm like, Hey, I understand that

940
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200
you were defensive coach. 
I get that right. 

941
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,680
And I understand you've got 
coordinators and offensive 

942
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,400
people that are on the staff for
a reason. 

943
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,680
But it is your responsibility, 
whether it's during the week to 

944
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,960
knock on the door and say, hey, 
listen, guys, I know you doing 

945
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,120
your thing. 
We got to run the ball more like

946
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,720
we got to get more of an even 
split here. 

947
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,840
We're getting 2 pass happy or 
whatever it might be or within a

948
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,120
game to walk down to the 
coordinator or if he's up in the

949
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,280
up in the booth to get him out 
on the headsets and say, yo, I 

950
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,280
know that this is the way that 
we thought we had to have to 

951
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,720
play. 
It's not working. 

952
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:56,120
You better change this up. 
And, and I think that ultimately

953
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,200
those are the best types of 
coaches. 

954
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,000
They've got their conviction and
they are married to it, but not 

955
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000
to a fault where they've got the
adaptability and they've got the

956
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,280
ability to to change and to 
reward guys who earn more reps 

957
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,680
in more minutes and or in 
football, more carries, whatever

958
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,000
it might be. 
And I think Mike Brown's pretty 

959
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,840
good at that. 
But it it to me, it just took 

960
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,280
him too long to figure out the 
Cat Brunson thing like that. 

961
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,040
I could have figured that out if
I you know what I'm saying. 

962
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Yeah, man, that's yeah. 
What a great juxtaposition to 

963
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,040
bring in my beloved Jets to kind
of in Robert Salas tenure there 

964
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,080
to illuminate your point. 
That was great. 

965
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,400
That makes complete sense to me.
Thank you. 

966
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,080
And I and my next point is this.
And no, it's not doom and gloom,

967
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,280
but it's I'm going to ask the 
question because that's how we 

968
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,120
roll. 
OK? 

969
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,040
Like we all know defence wins 
championships. 

970
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,880
The the Knicks are getting a lot
of turnovers against this team, 

971
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,840
lower American team. 
However, we know about windows. 

972
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,120
We understand that in that city 
with this fan base, you have to 

973
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,120
go to the finals, nay, win the 
finals this year, right? 

974
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:06,880
If this doesn't happen and we 
fall short, do we? 

975
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,840
And Giannis is waiting. 
Do we blow this shit up and, 

976
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,160
and, and what happens we do is 
everybody expendable? 

977
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,520
Bob Brunson, Like, how do you 
see this working? 

978
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Because yeah, I can't. 
I can't see us running it back 

979
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,200
and coming so close to the Holy 
Grail or, or for or simply short

980
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,080
of that. 
Yep. 

981
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,280
And running it back again 
irrespective. 

982
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,280
Of I agree I I. 
Do you got to get rid of 

983
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,480
everybody? 
I agree. 

984
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,680
All right, I'm going to answer 
that St. good luck today, man. 

985
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,880
Have a good day out there in the
UK. 

986
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Thanks for calling buddy. 
Yep, I appreciate you always. 

987
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,040
All right, Really good question.
So I've attached and one aspect 

988
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,440
has changed a bit, and that's 
Cat. 

989
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,000
I've attached. 
Well, now there's really a 

990
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,680
fourth and he was never part of 
this. 

991
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,000
So really 4 levels of 
culpability or evaluation for 

992
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:02,400
the Knicks if they fall short. 
So it's Leon Rose, it's Mike 

993
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,720
Brown, it's Cat. 
And then before this year, 

994
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,760
Brunson was never on the radar. 
But again, a little bit, you 

995
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,400
know, monopolizing the ball a 
little bit less efficient 

996
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,600
certain time shooting the ball. 
He's great. 

997
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,720
But I mean, we're talking about 
a championship. 

998
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,400
So it's it's got to be that that
micro analysis, right? 

999
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,360
Leon Rose will not get fired, 
even though with the and I'm not

1000
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,720
even saying that he should he 
comes back. 

1001
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080
All right, so I'm going to 
directly answer your question. 

1002
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,520
Nick's fall short. 
What happens? 

1003
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,600
Rose is back. 
Mike Brown is gone, I think in 

1004
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,840
terms of and Brunson stays, I 
think in term clearly, I think 

1005
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,240
in terms of Cat, I'm as open to 
this as I've ever been. 

1006
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,000
Like I, I, I mean, there was one
point I'm like, no matter what, 

1007
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,440
ship him out, ship him out. 
But say, if they lose to the 

1008
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Celtics in a deep series and he 
plays really well, you know, 

1009
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,080
maybe he has one bad game, 
couple of early fouls, like, you

1010
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,640
know, he would always on the off
to the push off. 

1011
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,240
See if that resurfaces and 
there's like one really 

1012
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,840
frustrating cat game. 
But he's efficient and he's 

1013
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,880
aggressive and they're enough of
the offense is running through 

1014
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,360
him. 
I'm not. 

1015
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,760
So I can't believe I'm saying 
this. 

1016
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,280
Wow. 
I'm not so sure that I'm hell 

1017
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,280
bent on getting rid of him. 
I mean, I think at that point 

1018
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,640
you'd have to creatively find a 
way to get rid of Bridges and, 

1019
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,680
and maybe you use somebody like 
Deuce to entice somebody to take

1020
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,880
bridges to get something cuz 
nobody's going to want bridges 

1021
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,480
for the contract and just 
bridges cuz he's got to cut. 

1022
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,720
It's like it's a salary dump cuz
he signed the extension and, 

1023
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,600
and, and Deuce is a young, 
although his contract's about to

1024
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,000
expire too. 
Is this year two or three? 

1025
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Either way, that would be a 
short term thing. 

1026
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,640
But he's very appealing cuz he's
young and he's good and he could

1027
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,200
shoot any place DA little injury
prone. 

1028
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560
But I think Deuce has real value
around the around the league. 

1029
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,760
So I'd have to look at the 
aesthetics of if and how they 

1030
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,360
lose. 
If Cat is a central theme as to 

1031
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,400
why they lose. 
Like if there's Stark 

1032
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,920
regression, then he's got to go.
If he continues to play it like 

1033
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,320
even if it's 85 to 90% of this 
version, however long the Knicks

1034
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,240
play moving forward, then I'm 
not looking to get rid of them. 

1035
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,920
You know, and I don't even know 
if the bucks would want Giannis.

1036
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,720
You know, there there's there's 
other things that we can get 

1037
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:13,400
into the weeds on when we have 
to if we have to, you know, 

1038
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,240
recruiting a third team because 
the Knicks don't have the draft 

1039
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,560
equity. 
Like there's just too much stuff

1040
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,800
that Manoush I don't want to get
into now, but I but I think that

1041
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,840
that's the answer for me. 
The GM stays the head coach 

1042
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,280
would be the first to go, no 
doubt, because that's easy. 

1043
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Fire Brown, bring somebody else 
in the cat move would be more 

1044
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,400
complex and more complicated 
makes big money. 

1045
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:39,120
You know, he's not A1A kind of 
player necessarily, and then 

1046
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,240
Brunson would be a a much lower 
priority in terms of about you, 

1047
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:45,760
like he's not going anywhere and
they would have to be bridges 

1048
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,960
and you probably have to 
sacrifice deuce there as well. 

1049
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,360
You know, do you re evaluate 
Mitchell Robinson situation? 

1050
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,080
I mean, I'm I'm not really 
looking to do that. 

1051
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,520
That could come to play on some 
level, but hopefully that's a 

1052
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,840
that's a good enough answer for 
you and I I dotted the IS in 

1053
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,000
terms of what you were looking 
for. 

1054
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,680
All right, Rich Squire 986, 
appreciate that. 

1055
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,880
Wow, the Super chats are hot 
today. 

1056
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,920
There you go 2 quick Yankee 
questions. 

1057
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,480
Would you mind both be staying 
in the minors until cabbie cools

1058
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,120
off and the Yankees gain another
year of control? 

1059
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,480
And two, do we need a first 
bait? 

1060
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,800
Do we need a first base at 
closer? 

1061
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,840
Do we need a oh, oh, do we need 
a 1B at closer not to burn 

1062
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,880
Bednar out and keep that up 
there, Jay, I'm not worried 

1063
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,560
about burning Bednar out. 
I'm worried about Bednar. 

1064
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,520
And I keep telling you, yeah, 
he's going to make you sweat. 

1065
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,600
Yeah, but he's going to be fine.
You know, I mean, I'm starting 

1066
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,120
to at least think on some level 
here that you're going to have 

1067
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,240
to upgrade that closer spot. 
I'm not fully there yet, but 

1068
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,840
every night it's a song of the 
dance. 

1069
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,880
There's a bass hit. 
There's a walk now, usually 

1070
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,600
wiggles out of it. 
But yeah, I'd like to be a 

1071
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,480
little bit more comfortable when
my closer comes in to nail down 

1072
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,000
a save. 
I mean, every night it's a 

1073
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,920
little bit of an adventure. 
Now the Volpe thing, that's why 

1074
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,000
I'm really looking forward to 
having Michael Kay on tomorrow 

1075
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,520
right around 11 thirtyish. 
We'll have him for a good, you 

1076
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,520
know, 20 minutes. 
Just so the first time we had 

1077
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,960
Michael on, it was more, you 
know, free form. 

1078
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Like when we had Stephen A on 
two hours, Michael was on for 

1079
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,160
about an hour and 45 minutes 
and, you know, talking about his

1080
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,600
life and growing up and his 
career. 

1081
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,920
Tomorrow she's Yankees like 
tomorrow I'm going to get my 

1082
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,760
buddy on voice of the Yankees 
and just talk shop with him, 

1083
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,880
which is going to be great. 
The Volpe thing is complex, I 

1084
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,360
believe. 
I believe I'd have to double 

1085
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160
check. 
I think that once somebody with 

1086
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:31,760
X amount of service in Major 
League Baseball is on an injury 

1087
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,200
rehab, I, I, I know that there's
a time limit. 

1088
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,840
Like I think it's 30 days. 
I got to button that up. 

1089
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,640
I don't, I want to make sure I'm
right on that, but I think it's 

1090
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,480
30. 
So like, say, to your point, 

1091
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,040
let's say Caballero, who finally
stole the pace last night 

1092
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,920
without getting pinched, he had 
been thrown out four times in a 

1093
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:53,760
row. 
I think if Caballero, even if he

1094
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,200
stays right, it's not a bad 
thought. 

1095
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,200
I know what you're getting at. 
Like you want a reward 

1096
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,040
performance. 
And what would it do for 

1097
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,680
Caballero's morale? 
What would it do for the morale?

1098
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,320
The Yankees, I'm not really 
worried about them because I 

1099
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,160
think they've got very good 
leadership, Judge, great leader.

1100
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,360
Belli's a very, you know, he's 
autopilot, very steady 

1101
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,240
emotionally. 
And I just I know the pitchers 

1102
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:15,160
are, I think the Yankees have 
very good leadership. 

1103
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,360
So I'm not worried about that 
becoming an issue in the 

1104
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,200
clubhouse. 
But you know, it's it's a 

1105
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,680
delicate dance. 
You got to thread the needle of 

1106
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,960
of rewarding performance, but 
also understanding that there's 

1107
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,520
an element of overachievement 
here from Caballero. 

1108
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,160
And you know, Volpe was the 
first round pick who did win a 

1109
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,240
Gold Glove and has hit twenty 
home runs of the season and has 

1110
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:36,240
stolen 20 plus bags. 
Now those are the good things we

1111
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,760
know about the deficiencies. 
What version of Volpe do we get?

1112
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,320
Don't know. 
I would think that when Volpe 

1113
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,480
and I could be dead wrong on 
this, when Volpe comes up, I 

1114
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,160
think he's playing right away 
like Dominguez. 

1115
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,040
They didn't bring Dominguez up 
to sit him. 

1116
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,800
They brought Dominguez up to 
play back-to-back to back games 

1117
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,840
and he'll play again today 
against against right-handed 

1118
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,160
pitching, which he has. 
So and even last night he got in

1119
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,800
that bad late in that game and 
he lined the bullet right up the

1120
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,560
middle of the the the Rangers 
were just played perfectly from 

1121
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,080
the right side and he hit pretty
well small sample in the minors 

1122
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,520
this year from the right side, 
which is obviously been an issue

1123
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,320
for him. 
It's a great question. 

1124
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,960
I don't really absolutely know 
the answer, but that's my 

1125
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,000
opinion. 
I think you run Volpe out there 

1126
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,440
and I think Caballero still gets
rewarded. 

1127
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:24,360
Now McMahon's hit a little bit 
better, but you can plug him at 

1128
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,520
plug him at a third. 
I don't know if they put him at 

1129
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,200
second. 
Jazz is swinging the bat better 

1130
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,520
as well. 
He lined out too. 

1131
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,200
He's been on a little bit of a 
much better streak hitting and 

1132
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,040
it's it's an interesting juggle 
for Aaron Boone. 

1133
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,560
The one thing that I'm very sure
about like this. 

1134
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,960
I know I'm not 100% sure exactly
how they use them right away, I 

1135
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,360
told you what I think happens. 
But one thing you could take to 

1136
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,680
the bank if Volpe is one for 19 
and with 11 whiffs and, you 

1137
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,720
know, two or three short hops 
across the diamond, Volpe ain't 

1138
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,360
playing every night. 
He's just not. 

1139
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,360
They will. 
They will sit him. 

1140
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,520
You know, the tarmac is shorter 
and the patience is lower. 

1141
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,240
That's. 
But that's my opinion on that. 

1142
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,240
Who's up? 
Let me read that. 

1143
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,280
We get back to the calls here. 
I want to get some other Yankee 

1144
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,320
stuff. 
Clarkson's been the epitome of a

1145
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,000
pro. 
True. 

1146
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,760
Adaptable to changing roles, 
ready when called upon. 

1147
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,840
No complaints. 
Yeah, I I agree. 

1148
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,120
Respect to him for that 
attitude. 

1149
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,280
That's generally what what vet, 
what good veterans do when 

1150
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,400
they're thrust into winning 
situations, you know, so that's 

1151
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,600
absolutely something you you 
should recognize. 

1152
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,600
And we have, and I must. 
I also think it speaks to the 

1153
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,600
culture of the Knicks. 
You know, I was told the other 

1154
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,600
day about like, what, what, what
the hell is the Mets culture? 

1155
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Like, what is the Mets culture? 
I don't, I don't know, I don't 

1156
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560
see any leadership from the I'm 
not saying it's all Mendoza's 

1157
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,400
fault, but I don't see any real 
leadership from Mendoza. 

1158
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,080
I don't see any real leadership 
being what he's helped, excuse 

1159
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,640
me, help me from the door. 
I don't see any real leadership 

1160
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,520
outside of being locked in and 
trying to be a great hitter in 

1161
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,160
Juan Soto. 
Now he's got the forearm strain.

1162
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,320
My God, hopefully that's not a 
precursor. 

1163
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,160
And we judge went through this, 
so we should be fine. 

1164
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,680
And I'm pretty sure Soto had 
this, the series against the 

1165
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Dodgers a couple of years ago 
where he sat out due to forearm 

1166
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,800
strain or or tension, whatever 
the word is. 

1167
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,280
Hopefully he's going to be all 
right. 

1168
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,400
That was a bit of a curveball in
this curveball of a season from 

1169
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,080
the Mets. 
But like you talk about the Mets

1170
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,000
culture, you know, Vientos doing
whatever he wants, no 

1171
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,240
repercussions like the Knicks 
culture, even though and and 

1172
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:24,760
that was from Tom Thibodeau and 
it was then carried out and made

1173
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,680
better by Brunson and Hart and 
you know, Divincenzo before 

1174
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,080
that. 
By the way, that sucks that he 

1175
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,960
ruptured his Achilles. 
That I was genuinely sad when I 

1176
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,480
saw that the other I didn't 
mention on the show. 

1177
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,400
Yes, that stinks, man, I love 
Dante Divincenzo. 

1178
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,480
How could you not? 
All right, who's up next there? 

1179
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,440
What do we got, Jay Culars? 
We've got Matt G. 

1180
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,840
Mattie G What up Matt? 
Where you at, Matt? 

1181
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,880
I don't know if you remember I 
called you last week talking 

1182
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,000
about Joe B playing golf with 
him and travel baseball. 

1183
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,480
I do. 
I do remember that, man. 

1184
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,800
What's going? 
On so I don't know why I lost 

1185
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,280
you, but I can't hear you, but 
I'm just going to give you a 

1186
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,120
very quick Little League 
question for you and then I'll 

1187
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,440
hang up because I lost you and I
don't want to hold up your show.

1188
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,000
So so bear with me. 
I can't hear you back. 

1189
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,160
So I'll give you the quick 
story. 

1190
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,080
So there's basically every 
Little League travel team. 

1191
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Most games there's a hard stop 
at 2 hour rule that's in effect 

1192
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,640
this way, the games move along. 
You don't hold people up, but 

1193
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,480
it's almost like an unwritten 
rule with coaches. 

1194
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,600
When you're at that hour 30 hour
40, you kind of go to the hump 

1195
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,560
and he'll kind of let you know, 
Hey guys, this is the last 

1196
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,920
inning. 
So Long story short, I have a 

1197
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,560
game last week. 
My team's down by 4 and it's 

1198
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
about an hour and a half. 
We start the innings. 

1199
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,160
So, you know, not thinking about
it. 

1200
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,280
My team, I give my team a 
rallying speech. 

1201
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,760
I got bottom of the order up 
heroic. 

1202
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,000
We score five runs, come back, 
take the lead. 

1203
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,000
I mean, the kids are going nuts.
I'm going nuts. 

1204
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,440
I'm starting to set up my, you 
know, field who's going to pitch

1205
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,320
this and that. 
I see the other manager talking 

1206
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,760
to the umpire and they, they 
point to the clock and they and 

1207
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,600
I see the kids on the other team
lining up because it was a hard 

1208
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,080
stop at two hours. 
Now the rule in all little 

1209
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,920
leagues again, nobody follows it
is that if you go over 2 hours 

1210
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,360
in the middle of an inning, it's
a hard stop. 

1211
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,600
Score reverts back to the 
previous completed inning. 

1212
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,480
So I'm going to hang up because 
I know you can't go back and 

1213
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,480
forth with me. 
I flew out of the dugout like 

1214
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,560
George Brett with the pine tar. 
I mean, I went berserk. 

1215
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,000
I'm I'm going nuts. 
I didn't curse at the guy, but 

1216
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,840
I'm saying, dude, what are you 
teaching your kids here? 

1217
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,320
I mean, the alms willing to 
stay. 

1218
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,640
What are we doing here? 
So Long story short, I protested

1219
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,120
the game the next day. 
I was hot. 

1220
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,000
I mean, I was mad. 
I behaved like a lunatic. 

1221
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,680
I had to apologize on Game 
Changer. 

1222
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,680
To the parents again, didn't. 
Curse. 

1223
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Didn't. 
Didn't, you know, threaten to 

1224
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,360
beat the guy up? 
Just very animated. 

1225
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,120
So I want to I'm going to hang 
up. 

1226
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,000
Listen, I want to know what you 
would have done in that 

1227
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,800
situation. 
Meaning I basically stood up for

1228
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,440
my players and wanted to show 
them, hey man, you, you came 

1229
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,960
back five runs like we got to 
finish the game. 

1230
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,640
So I'm going to hang up. 
Got you. 

1231
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,840
All right. 
There's a lot there and you're 

1232
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,960
talking to the right guy. 
And we all remember the story 

1233
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,240
last year when I got thrown out 
of the the district playoff 

1234
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,240
game. 
Not proud of it. 

1235
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,920
I mean, it was in the New York 
Post. 

1236
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,360
I mean, they were talking about 
it. 

1237
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,480
I think it was discovered 
because a caller called WFAN. 

1238
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,840
It was at the game. 
So I don't run from it. 

1239
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,360
I own it. 
One time, Little League ejectie 

1240
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,560
appeal denied, you know, because
we couldn't go back and forth. 

1241
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,520
There were a couple of 
questions. 

1242
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,040
So I'm going to have to kind of 
insert the answers on my own. 

1243
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,920
Is it is it rec? 
I mean, I don't know if it was 

1244
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,160
rec ball. 
You know, you generally know 

1245
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,080
everybody. 
Like last time my daughter had a

1246
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,880
game and so and I coach her rec 
team. 

1247
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,400
I don't coach her travel team. 
I coach her rec team and I coach

1248
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,840
third base, right, and there 
were a couple of things that 

1249
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,040
happened. 
Nothing bad that happened within

1250
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,160
the game where like because one,
because I don't one thing that I

1251
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,480
don't hide, I'm there to coach, 
I'm there to hit fungos, I'm 

1252
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,960
there to give signs, I'm there 
to teach inspire. 

1253
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,400
I'm not there to fill out 
lineups and, you know, get birth

1254
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,960
certificates and deal with that 
game changer nonsense. 

1255
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,680
I can't I don't have the 
bandwidth to do it. 

1256
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,560
I want to coach all right, and 
everybody knows that I have the 

1257
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,720
other stuff. 
Not interested. 

1258
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,160
Now, if it's wreck and you're 
friends with everybody in town, 

1259
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,680
that should be easy. 
All right, Just figure it out As

1260
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,560
gentlemen, I'm going to assume 
that it wasn't wrecked just 

1261
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,120
based on the energy that you 
emitted there. 

1262
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,800
You know, maybe it was a little 
bit of a rivalry. 

1263
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,000
You still want to. 
You didn't curse. 

1264
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,480
That's a good thing we had. 
It's different, even travel in 

1265
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360
clubs a little bit different. 
Like so my my son had a played 

1266
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,840
PG event this past weekend and 
they lost in the championship 

1267
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,240
game. 
Now every other game, the pool 

1268
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,200
play and the semis, there's an 
hour 40 minute limit. 

1269
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,280
And if you start like as long as
you get the like if you look, if

1270
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,840
you get the top of the sixth, if
you start the top of the sixth 

1271
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,360
and it could go to like 2 hours 
and 11 minutes. 

1272
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960
So you going to finish the 
inning to me to have a score 

1273
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,320
revert, like once you start to 
have a score revert back and 

1274
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,080
then the championship game, 
there's no time limit. 

1275
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,040
The only way it ends is if you 
get mercy, right, which they did

1276
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,920
play. 
The team we played is amazing. 

1277
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,840
So that's one aspect of club, 
you know, travel. 

1278
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,360
The team that I do coach my son,
it's an hour 40 for USABL, which

1279
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,760
is a Northeast umbrella. 
Good baseball. 

1280
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,120
It's a little different from PG,
but good quality ball and it's 

1281
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,760
140 now. 
There's some guys out there that

1282
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,160
like, you know, you come out, 
you, you stall, you change 

1283
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,520
pitchers, you try to manipulate 
the clock. 

1284
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,280
The gentleman, the two gentlemen
that I coach with for the travel

1285
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,760
team in town, we would never do 
that. 

1286
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,560
Like that's just we're looking 
to play. 

1287
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,200
You know, we have a good team. 
I guarantee almost everybody 

1288
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,200
will play high school. 
I guarantee several of our kids 

1289
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,600
will play college, possibly 
Division One. 

1290
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,960
We got some players. 
So we're not there like, oh, 

1291
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,040
let's get the win and let's, you
know, let's have two pitching 

1292
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,840
changes and wait. 
That's to me, that is Bush that 

1293
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,160
that's no. 
So if somebody was doing that 

1294
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,720
and I was coaching, it would 
bother me. 

1295
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,240
I would probably have one of the
other coaches say something so I

1296
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,000
don't get in trouble again. 
Try to navigate that emotional 

1297
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,360
thing. 
But standing up for your team is

1298
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,880
a good thing. 
You know, even though I'm 

1299
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,960
embarrassed that I got thrown 
out of A at that point, A10U 

1300
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,160
district playoff. 
I have sectional playoff game, 

1301
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,920
like I'm not proud of it, but I 
was standing up for my team 

1302
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,400
because I thought we were hosed.
And I'll take that one to the 

1303
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,400
grave. 
And I've got the video on game 

1304
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,840
changer to prove it, but I never
put it out there. 

1305
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,280
Long, long answer. 
It seems like there was some 

1306
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,000
manipulation by the other team 
that that I wouldn't like that 

1307
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,440
we would resist as a as a team, 
as an organization. 

1308
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,920
But the best advice I could give
you is, and I don't know how old

1309
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,080
the kids are, that that kind of 
matters as well. 

1310
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,600
Just just understand, man, it's 
it's supposed to still be fun. 

1311
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,560
And it seems like you're having 
fun, but you want to win. 

1312
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,000
And I'm all about that. 
Like, you know what, nobody 

1313
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,560
wants to go out there and get 
their faces kicked. 

1314
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,880
What, what fun is that? 
What do you learn? 

1315
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,240
Like the only way you learn is 
if you get destroyed and you 

1316
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,840
come back into it and you have a
very animated practice and the 

1317
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,480
kids locked back in and you do 
take the lesson of getting 

1318
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,520
pounded and like, hey, guys, 
listen. 

1319
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,600
And we talked to the team, even 
though they're still fairly 

1320
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,840
young, not even, you know, still
a couple of years away from high

1321
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,600
school, My group like, and we 
talked to them like young men, 

1322
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,280
like, hey, guys, listen, you 
know, unacceptable. 

1323
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,560
Like you missed a sign or you 
didn't run the bases with 

1324
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,400
purpose or you know what, 
whatever it might be like, 

1325
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,280
that's all good. 
But like the I'm just the other 

1326
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,120
stuff like manipulative stop. 
I just, I can't get involved in 

1327
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,000
that. 
I that's, that's a little 

1328
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,240
bothersome. 
I don't know. 

1329
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,560
I wouldn't want to have to deal 
with that. 

1330
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,200
Wait, let me just try real 
quick. 

1331
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,520
Matt, can you hear us? 
Are you able to, I guess not. 

1332
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,720
I, I, I thought, I thought we 
were going to be able to get him

1333
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,440
back in. 
OK, clarifying questions, but. 

1334
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,120
I got you. 
I don't know if we need to even 

1335
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,440
go on more. 
I probably went a little bit 

1336
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,720
longer than I needed to. 
But you know, he's got a passion

1337
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,960
for what I have a passion for 
and and obviously you guys know 

1338
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,640
I love that stuff. 
Do we have anybody else up Next 

1339
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,440
up? 
What we got, Jay? 

1340
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,920
Yes, Sir, we've got Johnny Boy 
from Virginia. 

1341
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,440
Johnny boy, I now I could see 
barely Johnny's wearing a tie. 

1342
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,360
Don't put him up on camera. 
Johnny looks like he's very well

1343
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,720
at but Natalie attired, some 
might say, so I guess he's at 

1344
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,040
work. 
What's up, Johnny? 

1345
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,840
Hey, what's going on BT Huge 
fan, great work. 

1346
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,040
Love the the new pod that you 
got with Rich and Jake on the 

1347
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,200
collective. 
It's it is it is amazing. 

1348
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,120
I appreciate that. 
That's called, for those who 

1349
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,200
don't know, Jet fans, The Jets 
Collective, that's myself. 

1350
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,880
It's rich to me. 
It's Jake Asmin, it's once a 

1351
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,200
week now. 
We just did the episode #6 

1352
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,120
yesterday. 
Go go find it on on YouTube, 

1353
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,240
Jets Collective, sub it, like 
it, comment, get all that stuff 

1354
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,000
going like you've done for my 
show here. 

1355
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,600
And we'll do it twice a week 
during the season and we'll do 

1356
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,960
it all offseason. 
So I'm having a blast. 

1357
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,640
It's a great cast and I'm happy 
that you're enjoying it. 

1358
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,440
Thank you very much, Johnny. 
Now, what's going on, man? 

1359
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,520
So BTI just want to ask you a 
few questions. 

1360
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,640
I'm still riding the high from 
the draft. 

1361
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,840
I thought the draft was really 
well for The Jets. 

1362
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,800
I was one of the guys that was 
in the pit. 

1363
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,000
I had the Giants sombrero that 
was there. 

1364
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,440
So we. 
Were. 

1365
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Oh, you went? 
Yeah. 

1366
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,160
Yeah, that's dude. 
So it was insane, everything 

1367
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,880
that happened. 
Yeah, yeah, I agree. 

1368
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,800
So I'm still riding that. 
But today or last night this 

1369
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,680
whole Brendan Sarsby stuff is 
coming out where he's going to 

1370
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,080
be not eligible to play for 
college anymore, etcetera, 

1371
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,680
etcetera. 
So he might be answering the 

1372
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,440
supplemental. 
Supplemental. 

1373
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:26,520
What is your take on us taking a
swing on him where he is 

1374
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,640
supposed to be a first round 
pick? 

1375
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,320
That if he was to come out next 
year with one of those three, 

1376
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,200
one of those ones, three of 
those ones that we have, we 

1377
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,200
might potentially would have 
picked this kid and it might 

1378
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,880
take us a two this year to give 
up to potentially get a guy 

1379
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,800
that's 27 passing touchdowns and
9 rushing touchdowns. 

1380
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,800
I know. 
Dual threat, you take a swing on

1381
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,600
him or what's your take on that?
Oh, man, the level of vetting 

1382
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,160
there is just so different from 
somebody like, all right, we 

1383
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,400
hear he's a little lazy or he 
got arrested because he had a 

1384
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,680
fight at a bar or he got pinched
with, you know, some weed, you 

1385
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,920
know, things that you can 
navigate. 

1386
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,520
This, this is a little different
for me. 

1387
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,760
I I I don't think they'll do it.
And I'm not so sure I like your 

1388
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,440
plan. 
You know, I'm not so sure that I

1389
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,360
would do it. 
I, I would, I would do my due 

1390
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,840
diligence. 
Yeah, I think you have to and I 

1391
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,960
think that they will, but that 
is that's that's tough to 

1392
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,040
reconcile, man. 
I mean, you know, there it's not

1393
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,680
like gambling just became legal 
yesterday. 

1394
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,720
Like you, there's been enough 
pro athletes couple in the NFL, 

1395
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,880
Damon Jones, NBA former player 
coach like this stuff is not new

1396
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:43,880
you so to so to be that cavalier
to me shows a bit of a a real 

1397
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,680
character flaw and a disregard 
for authority. 

1398
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,760
But you know, if you're getting 
a potential star at $0.60 on the

1399
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,120
dollar, you know, that's, that's
something you got to be 

1400
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,960
comfortable with. 
I wish this is not just about 

1401
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,160
The Jets. 
I know you questions about The 

1402
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,160
Jets. 
To me, it's better if it's a 

1403
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,360
really healthy organization. 
You know what I mean? 

1404
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,560
Like The Jets are are just 
beginning. 

1405
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,520
They were sent, I, I think 
fumigating the joint and, you 

1406
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,960
know, some good energy bringing 
it. 

1407
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,320
All these winners from Indiana 
and Oregon and all the players 

1408
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,880
they drafted, they won a lot, 
you know, like what they did in 

1409
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,880
free agency. 
Muji looks really good. 

1410
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,480
No see about Glenn, although I 
do believe he's a leader of men.

1411
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,120
So it's getting healthier, but 
they're not there yet. 

1412
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,720
To me, it's a, it's a big risk. 
I'd probably say no, but I would

1413
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,360
go through the process. 
That's how I would answer that. 

1414
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,800
And in my last question, Yep, 
it's in regards to the draft, 

1415
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,480
Who from all the picks that The 
Jets had with the draft, who 

1416
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,800
would you say is the biggest 
steal? 

1417
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:50,160
And who would you say is the 
player that's going to have the 

1418
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,720
biggest upside day one to truly 
impact the New York Jets? 

1419
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,440
And I appreciate all the work 
you do man. 

1420
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,040
I appreciate it. 
Thank you, Johnny. 

1421
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,360
No, thanks for the call, man. 
Yeah, we, we did a lot of this 

1422
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,600
on the show yesterday. 
A couple. 

1423
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,040
I'll give you the answer. 
So you talk about Bailey Siddiq 

1424
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,640
Cooper Ponds, Jackson Klubnick, 
Cooper, the old lineman from 

1425
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,160
Miami and then BJ Payne, the 
safety from Kansas State who 

1426
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,080
thought, I mean, that it's funny
that that was one of the things 

1427
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,520
that was thought to be like a 
real steal where, you know, a 

1428
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,000
lot of people had him pegged as 
much higher. 

1429
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,240
Like I I know Rich was saying he
got some text like, wow, how did

1430
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,240
why did BJ Payne go so late? 
If you don't know about him? 

1431
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,640
He was 7th rounder, 220 eighth 
selection. 

1432
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,320
He's a safety 632 O 5 and he 
runs like the wind. 

1433
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,120
So I, I, I don't, I mean that 
that could very well could be 

1434
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,520
the answer. 
The biggest UPS, the biggest 

1435
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,920
steal. 
I'm going to go with D'Angelo 

1436
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,160
Ponz. 
I I, I really just think that 

1437
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,240
he's ready to play. 
I know he's a little small. 

1438
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,760
I love what they did. 
I mean in terms I know he's I 

1439
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,320
got a little small, but to me 
he's, you know, top 35, Top 40, 

1440
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,840
top 45, Max value. 
And you got him at at 50, right 

1441
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,600
second round 50 or 5050. 
So I think The Jets let me shut 

1442
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,760
my phone off I'm sorry. 
I think The Jets did a lot of 

1443
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,560
good things. 
You know, the Bailey pick to me 

1444
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,960
is probably about AB Plus. 
I didn't really, I didn't want 

1445
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,360
them to draft Bailey. 
I didn't want them to draft 

1446
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,800
Reese. 
I wanted to trade out, but 

1447
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,160
Bailey's going to get to the 
quarterback now. 

1448
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,560
He might be a 1 trick pony and 
yeah, he might not ever be that 

1449
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,800
131415 sack game changing 
monster. 

1450
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,760
Like I'm not expecting that, 
certainly not as a rookie. 

1451
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,600
He might not ever be that, but 
his skill is one that they need.

1452
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,479
And you know, he went to 
Stanford before he went to Texas

1453
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,399
Tech Smart young man. 
His brother played football at 

1454
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:37,040
Harvard. 
So, you know, he's coming from a

1455
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,439
great family. 
You know, I love Sadiq, I love 

1456
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,120
the pick, the tight end from 
Oregon. 

1457
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,279
I mean, getting back into the 
first round of getting Omar 

1458
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:48,040
Cooper, phenomenal. 
I already touched on ponds. 

1459
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,720
Love it. 
I was surprised. 

1460
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,399
It's funny, I was talking about 
Little League before. 

1461
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:54,120
I was in Staten Island this 
weekend at that tournament that 

1462
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,880
I just mentioned and somehow we 
got the games in on. 

1463
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,920
We had like an 8:00 game, just 
got the luck of the draw and a 

1464
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,880
10:00 game out in Staten Island 
and till we finished up pretty 

1465
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,640
early before the rain came. 
And so my son and I went to the 

1466
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,680
diner and as soon as we walked 
in the diner, literally like 

1467
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,479
before the Pickles in the 
coleslaw in the water even came.

1468
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,319
We sat down TV jets getting 
ready to make their their 103rd 

1469
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:17,840
pick in the fourth round. 
And when they took Darryl 

1470
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,080
Jackson, like I didn't, I didn't
think they were going defensive 

1471
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,760
tackle to start that day. 
That surprised me, right, I'm 

1472
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,880
not going to crush the pick. 
I mean he's probably more 

1473
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,080
developmental and they've got a 
lot of lot of guys that are that

1474
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,560
are finally could stop the run. 
So Rich said yes, you know, The 

1475
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,120
Jets collective. 
He thinks he's more of like a 

1476
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,000
red shirt. 
I don't really want a red shirt 

1477
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,560
guy in round 4 when you had some
other needs, But OK, I'm going 

1478
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,040
to be a Moody the benefit of the
doubt. 

1479
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,840
I mean, obviously the club Nick 
to pick is going to get a lot of

1480
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,640
lot of heat, but I will at least
trust the instincts. 

1481
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,240
It's a bold move. 
It's not like they just took 

1482
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,439
them because they needed a 
court, which we all wanted them 

1483
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,680
to get a developmental 
quarterback. 

1484
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,000
So I can't criticize the 
direction. 

1485
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,000
And at least The Jets were 
remaining married to their 

1486
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,240
convictions. 
When you move up 18 slots, not 2

1487
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,760
or 4, almost 20, to get a 
quarterback who did not have a 

1488
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,160
good year last year but was 
great the year before, and even 

1489
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,680
as a rookie, pardon me, as a 
freshman, he was the MVP in the 

1490
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,920
ACC championship game. 
He's had over 40 starts. 

1491
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,560
So as a freshman, he dominated 
the championship game in second 

1492
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,840
year, he made all 12 or 13 
starts. 

1493
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,200
His third year was phenomenal. 
And then his fourth year was was

1494
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,040
not very good. 
And there's some people think 

1495
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,280
like the scheme of Clemson 
wasn't very good and they've got

1496
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,760
some gummy dabo and what are we 
doing? 

1497
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,360
Not even good anymore. 
I talk about a fall from grace 

1498
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:40,120
Clemson, right? 
But the the Cooper pick from 

1499
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,360
Miami, I the only well, let me 
take a step back. 

1500
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,760
The reason why I was surprised 
with Darryl Jackson as their 

1501
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,560
first pick on day three going in
and I'm I tweeted this. 

1502
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,600
You guys can check my ex 
account. 

1503
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,600
I tweeted all right, here's what
The Jets need to do in no real 

1504
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,800
order Interior offensive line. 
They got it developmental 

1505
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,520
quarterback, whether you love it
or not whatever they got it a 

1506
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,720
safety. 
They got it in pain and then, 

1507
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,080
you know, they drafted somebody 
pretty early and at one O 3 

1508
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,480
overall for a position I didn't 
think that they need. 

1509
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:12,200
But some of the guys on the line
are are on one year deals. 

1510
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,880
So I get it. 
So as those big boys play as 

1511
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,160
veterans and Jackson maybe gets 
in a little bit rotation, but is

1512
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,880
kind of more just being 
introduced to the league and 

1513
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,680
he's a monster and the guy 
Cooper is just nasty. 

1514
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,320
I mean you see him coming out of
the tunnel. 

1515
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,640
I mean I'll be I'm not sitting 
there scouring Miami games, 

1516
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,400
watching the interior line. 
I'm watching the quarterback. 

1517
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,800
I watch the skill guys, right, 
I'm watching bane on the edge 

1518
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,280
and some other defenders, but 
this dude is nasty. 65350 he had

1519
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:44,800
no Jackson is 65315 Cooper, 
who's who's going to play guard 

1520
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,160
and as a backup 65338 So that's 
maybe a little bit too in the 

1521
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,560
weeds on some of the jet stuff 
there. 

1522
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,240
But I wanted to pay it off and 
give you the answer. 

1523
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,400
All right, let me get to some 
Yankee stuff here. 

1524
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,440
All right, if you guys want to 
pop in with some more calls, we 

1525
01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:02,280
could do that, whether it's 
about the Knicks a little 

1526
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,560
baseball was fun to sit down, 
you know, and last night was a 

1527
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,080
bit of a pain. 
It's not a big deal. 

1528
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,640
I've kind of got, I always used 
to complain about having to go 

1529
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,360
from Apple to regular TV or 
prime to regular. 

1530
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,640
You know, I guess I finally 
figured it out. 

1531
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,760
I remember telling Sal one of my
biggest issues was I couldn't 

1532
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,720
figure out the damn remote. 
So like they were just games 

1533
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,080
like if the Yankees were on yes 
and the Mets were on Apple or, 

1534
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,160
or really or vice, whatever. 
Like, all right, I'm going to 

1535
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,600
watch one game and then, you 
know, I'm doing my homework and 

1536
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,440
doing my job. 
I, I watch both every night. 

1537
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:34,800
Pain in the ass. 
That's why I don't watch a lot 

1538
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,120
of the Thursday night games 
because I'm locked into the 

1539
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,320
Yanks and the Mets or if it's 
Knicks season, whatever it might

1540
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,320
be, but it's become a lot 
easier. 

1541
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,880
I don't know, really. 
In hindsight, I probably sounded

1542
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,280
like an idiot complaining about 
that. 

1543
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,520
Dude, you click a button. 
What the hell was so hard about 

1544
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,320
that? 
Come on, come on, stop. 

1545
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,800
So I was clicking away, timing 
it out and follow it on my phone

1546
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,520
with the Yankees locked into the
Knicks and Schlittler. 

1547
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,920
Degrom was fun. 
Now Cam Schlitzler. 

1548
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,120
All right, let me get where did 
I put that? 

1549
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,680
Hang on, what did I just did I 
lose that? 

1550
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,080
Oh, here we go. 
Tam Schlitter 7 starts this 

1551
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,800
year. 
All right, 41 to 2/3 innings, 49

1552
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,880
whips, first in the American 
League, 1.15, the RA 0.74 WHIP. 

1553
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,120
And this, Listen, if you follow 
the show, you know that My 

1554
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,120
favorite stat, my favorite stat 
for a pitcher, it's not WHIP, 

1555
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,920
it's not WAR. 
It's not even WAR. 

1556
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,560
You know, strikeouts I do like 
it's opponents batting average 

1557
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,360
that tells me how uncomfortable 
or how comfortable an opposing 

1558
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,960
hitter is in the box, right? 
And Cam Schlidler's opponents 

1559
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,000
batting average so far this year
through 7 starts is 168. 

1560
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,080
All right, and here, how about 
this for you too. 

1561
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Again, you talk about Yankee 
history, you're talking about 

1562
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,400
some good stuff. 
His ERA for his career so far is

1563
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,800
2.43. 
That's the lowest by any Yankee 

1564
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,920
with at least through his first 
21 games since 1968. 

1565
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,440
When they lowered the mound, 
like after that 1968 World 

1566
01:13:57,440 --> 01:13:59,240
Series, because it was just too 
easy. 

1567
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,320
There's no offense, they wound 
up lowering the mound to kind of

1568
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,160
take away the advantage from the
for the pitcher. 

1569
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,280
You're higher, obviously, you've
got more leverage, more, more 

1570
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,800
advantage. 
So anyway, 68, you're the 

1571
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,880
pitcher. 
If you remember that World 

1572
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,880
Series, Cardinals, Tigers, low 
Lich, Bob Gibson, all that 

1573
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,400
stuff. 
Camp Slither is exactly that's 

1574
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,960
what I told you he was going to 
be like. 

1575
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:21,240
This was not a guy last year and
we got fooled by Louis Hill 

1576
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,000
winning the rookie of the year. 
Louis Hill didn't quite look 

1577
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,280
like this. 
I mean, Cam Schlittler is built 

1578
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,880
to be the ace if he's healthy 
for the Yankee staff for a 

1579
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,080
decade, decade plus, if he stays
really healthy and make 5, he's 

1580
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,520
going to be on the All Star team
this year. 

1581
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,600
He's going to be top whatever in
the in the Cy Young. 

1582
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,920
Yeah, he's going to have a 
starter too, where he just 

1583
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,120
doesn't quite have the stuff. 
But what I love about Cam 

1584
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,600
Schlittner, and this is what 
separates the guys who are 

1585
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,600
legitimate front of the 
rotation. 

1586
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,200
Dudes like Derek Cole when he's 
right, you know, going back. 

1587
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,360
Johann Santana, CC Sabathia, 
pitchers like that. 

1588
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,840
I think Mcclain's got that for 
the Mets when they don't have 

1589
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,480
their A stuff. 
And I don't care how good you 

1590
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,080
are, you know, you could, you 
could think you have your A 

1591
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,280
stuff in the bullpen. 
You get on the mound and there's

1592
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,000
a pitch that you really expected
to rely on based on the scouting

1593
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,960
reports. 
It's just the fields not there 

1594
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,480
and you can't throw for a 
striker. 

1595
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,280
You can't locate your fastball. 
Even though you throw a 9899, 

1596
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,040
you can't spot it in the right 
spot. 

1597
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,000
So instead of jumping out O1, 
you know which which opens up 

1598
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,200
the entire bag of pitches, It's 
one O and you're consistently 

1599
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,400
falling behind, which means 
you've got to abandon certain 

1600
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,960
pitches and you try to figure 
things out. 

1601
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,320
To me, the separator for those 
who are going to be great versus

1602
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,760
those who are going to be 
sporadically good is when you 

1603
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,400
don't have your A or a plus 
stuff. 

1604
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,360
Don't give ADD effort. 
I'm and I'm not even talk about 

1605
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,600
Schlittler last time talking 
about Schlittler in general and 

1606
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,840
some of the other great young 
pitchers and and the great older

1607
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,080
pitchers in the game. 
That's Cam schlittler #1 the 

1608
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,320
balls on you immediately just 
based on how tall he is. 

1609
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,760
All right. 
And he's got a wind up that is 

1610
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,640
so repeatable and and is really 
stress free. 

1611
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,160
I remember watching Dontrelle 
Willis, who I loved right with 

1612
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,400
the Marlins back of the day, the
D train, you know, good on TV, 

1613
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,520
good energy, could hit to make 
it hit. 

1614
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,120
But he was just filthy, dude. 
But it was like that wacky herky

1615
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,680
jerky. 
I'm like, I don't think this is 

1616
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,080
going to last too long. 
And it didn't. 

1617
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:10,720
Yeah. 
His stuff went away fast. 

1618
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,400
And he had a very quiet middle 
to the end of his career, 

1619
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,240
unfortunately, because he was so
awesome for the game early on. 

1620
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,320
Cam Schlittler is stress free. 
Cam Schlittler's got 5 or 6 

1621
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,440
pitches. 
And Cam Schlittler is now 

1622
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,520
officially one of the best 
pitchers in baseball, period. 

1623
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,240
You know, I I I don't know, you 
know, I don't know exactly where

1624
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,520
he is right now. 
He's not even really the best 

1625
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,920
pitcher on his team, which 
speaks to great things about the

1626
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,640
Yankees moving forward. 
That's Max Freed. 

1627
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,720
But if you look at obviously 
school ball and I know skiing, 

1628
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,320
think about how about this for 
irony, you know, skiing. 

1629
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,440
Think about the way his season 
started and the Pirates are 

1630
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:48,280
actually a little bit better 
than I think people thought 

1631
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,360
there there were a couple of 
games over 500, right? 

1632
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,200
And his numbers are right back 
to where they always have been 

1633
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,760
mid 2 ERA, something like that. 
But think about the what the 

1634
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,680
Mets did to him on Opening Day 
and think about where the 

1635
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,600
Pirates have gone and where 
Skeens has gone back to which we

1636
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,640
knew what happened. 
And think about what happened to

1637
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,240
the Mets after that. 
My goodness. 

1638
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,560
I mean, that was unexpected. 
But you're talking about you 

1639
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,240
guys like Skeens and School Bowl
and Freed. 

1640
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,160
Soriano has been phenomenal for 
the Angels so far. 

1641
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,280
Oh, Todd, he's great. 
You know, I love McClain. 

1642
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,240
You guys know that Parker 
Messick has been very good for 

1643
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,440
the Guardians. 
And and this is going to play 

1644
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:26,360
out over time, so I don't need 
to make some bold declaration. 

1645
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,040
That seems like a hot take, but 
when I say that Camp Schlitter 

1646
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,920
is going to be great, that's 
just consistent with what I've 

1647
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,800
said, really since the first 
time I saw him pitch, you know? 

1648
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,160
And I remember being in the car 
and I remember texting Susan 

1649
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,120
Waltman about this when he made 
his debut. 

1650
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,080
Was it against the White Sox? 
Whomever he pitched against the 

1651
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,480
first game, I remember really 
watching with intrigue because I

1652
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:52,000
was in the car coming back from 
a Little League game. 

1653
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,360
And she was doing the pregame, 
you know, before Booney or maybe

1654
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,200
after Booney, she was 
interviewing the scout who found

1655
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,120
Ben Rice and Schlittler, you 
know, up in the, you know, New 

1656
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,160
England Northeast area cross 
checker. 

1657
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:07,920
And, and I heard the story about
Schlittler's makeup. 

1658
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,840
His dad's on the job. 
His dad's a police detective or 

1659
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,200
Lieutenant very high up in the, 
in the police force up there. 

1660
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,880
So, you know, he's got some blue
collar in him and he's, you 

1661
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,240
know, he's, he's going to be a, 
you would be a grinder. 

1662
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,000
And his look at his emotions, 
man. 

1663
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,160
Like the fire is so obvious. 
Like he's not taking shit from 

1664
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,800
anybody. 
The Red Sox fans, you know, said

1665
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,440
what they said, tweeted what 
they tweeted. 

1666
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,800
He's like, all right, he going 
to shove it down your throat. 

1667
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,640
And so, you know, he's got a 
very slow heartbeat. 

1668
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,600
He's not going to overreact to 
the moment. 

1669
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,440
He almost gets better and 
steadier as the stakes rise. 

1670
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,600
And that's another great sign 
for a young ball player. 

1671
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,400
Like think about Juan Soto at 
the age of 19 in the World 

1672
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:53,440
Series, hitting lefties like Don
Mattingly in 85 or Rod Carew or 

1673
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:55,560
Braid Boggs. 
They didn't even flinch against 

1674
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,840
some of these lefties. 
Tony Gwinn, like, you're like 

1675
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,040
this, this young man's, he's cut
from a different hitting cloth, 

1676
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,520
right? 
Because when you show that at 

1677
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,760
that age, there's an aptitude, 
but also back to the heartbeat 

1678
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,920
and the process and everything 
about Schlittler is dynamic and 

1679
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,880
consistent and awesome. 
And the Yankees right now have 

1680
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,160
the best 1, two pitch, 1-2 duo 
in baseball. 

1681
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,520
They really do. 
So that's awesome from a Yankee 

1682
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,720
perspective, from a pitching 
perspective, Yankees definitely 

1683
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,080
need to upgrade a little bit of 
closer. 

1684
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,000
Bednar. 
Yeah, I touched on this before. 

1685
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,120
He does make things 
uncomfortable. 

1686
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,480
Thank you for that, Ryan. 
So now we get, I don't know what

1687
01:19:29,480 --> 01:19:31,760
he's going to do, But I mean, 
now we get to sit back. 

1688
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,480
You get ready to take care of 
the Rangers here. 

1689
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,400
And Yanks are looking really 
good. 

1690
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:37,840
You know, they lost that one 
game in Houston. 

1691
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,320
Otherwise they'd have, what, an 
11 game win, win, win streak, 

1692
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,320
something like that. 
Now we get to see Elmo 

1693
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,880
Rodriguez, who makes his debut 
today. 

1694
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,880
All right, He's 22 and I was 
looking back at some of his 

1695
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,480
minor league numbers from the 
start of 2025 to now. 

1696
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:55,680
All right, this is based on all 
the minor leaguers. 

1697
01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:00,080
He leads all minor leaguers with
196 whiffs in in all the innings

1698
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,360
from, you know, the start of 25 
to now, and he's got an ERA at 

1699
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,560
2.42. 
I know it's the Miners. 

1700
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,680
I get it. 
But now I had to do a deeper 

1701
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:08,880
dive. 
All right, what is he bringing 

1702
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,320
to the table? 
Not just velocity. 

1703
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,280
What's in his bag? 
Well, the reason why they could 

1704
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,320
get rocked today, you know, he 
could be nervous, he could be 

1705
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,200
overwhelmed. 
He maybe doesn't throw strikes. 

1706
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,600
Whatever, You never know, but 
I'm talking big picture. 

1707
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:27,520
Why Rodriguez is appealing here 
is that you got a four seamer 

1708
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,520
that sits at 9495 but gets up to
99, but he's got a six pitch 

1709
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:36,600
Mitch, a six pitch mix, six 
pitch Mitch, a six pitch mix. 

1710
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,960
He's got wait real quick. 
That sounds like an old like 

1711
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,000
40s. 
He was six pitch, pitch Mitch. 

1712
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,800
He took him out. 
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like 

1713
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,400
something like Casey Kasem. 
Ladies and gentlemen #13 Song at

1714
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,080
six, Pitch mix. 
Bring this beautiful oldie to 

1715
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,320
you. 
Go ahead, crank it up. 

1716
01:20:53,480 --> 01:20:58,760
No, I like that 6 or like 6 like
a like a 70s like Creedence 

1717
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,560
Clearwater type of band. 
Like no, that is a cool. 

1718
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,560
Band name. 
Actually. 

1719
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,920
Wait, I'm writing that down. 
Oh, look at you. 

1720
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:07,760
Come on. 
Don't you have your own ideas? 

1721
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,120
Come on, Ed J Ron, what's going 
on? 

1722
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,320
No bite. 
That's what we used to say. 

1723
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,320
Stop biting. 
You know, stop copying. 

1724
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,080
You guys didn't use that, that 
word. 

1725
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,040
Did you? 
Like stop biting. 

1726
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,080
Biting is big. 
Oh, it is. 

1727
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,200
I think because my dad says it a
lot. 

1728
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,920
So I I think I by proxy say it a
lot as. 

1729
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,600
Well, I like it. 
That's why I like your pops. 

1730
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,440
So he's got the sinker, he's got
a four seamer, he's got a 

1731
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:30,000
cutter, he's got a slider, he's 
got a curve. 

1732
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,600
He's got a change up. 
Now, I, some of those pictures 

1733
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,320
are more show me pictures like 
you might use it 3, four, 5% of 

1734
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,840
the time. 
But what I, the other thing that

1735
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,440
I love and, and This is why the 
Yankees infield defense is going

1736
01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:42,880
to be really important. 
What he pitches is that he 

1737
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,120
induces a lot of ground balls. 
He's like 5556% ground ball 

1738
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,400
rate, which is very, very high. 
Like Max Free does that. 

1739
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,040
That's why McMahon, even when 
he's not hitting, when Max 

1740
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,240
Freed's on the hill, for the 
most part, you want him over at 

1741
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,520
third base because he's a 
vacuum. 

1742
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,600
So I mean, now like just think 
about where we are in this 

1743
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,600
Yankee universe #1 They're 
winning every night #2 Judge 

1744
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,080
banked on the home run #3 Ben 
Rice is his Robin. 

1745
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,480
He's officially got a stud in 
front of him, you know, maybe 

1746
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:12,080
against lefties behind him, but 
you got at least two stars now 

1747
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,280
to like judge is the best and 
then Ben Rice's I believe is a 

1748
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,000
certifiable star. 
He's going to be an All Star. 

1749
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,920
His OPS will be in the you know,
middish 9 fifties. 

1750
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:22,840
He's going to be top ten in the 
MVP. 

1751
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,880
He's going to bank 35 to 40 home
runs, like he's going to have 40

1752
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,680
plus double S. 
He's going to knock in 115 

1753
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,560
brought like he's just, he's 
that guy, you know, So he's he's

1754
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,960
the real deal. 
And now just even with all the 

1755
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,920
great Yankee pitching, now you 
throw Elmo Rodriguez and LeBron,

1756
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,960
hey, by the way, is not too far 
behind. 

1757
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,600
You got Rodriguez going today. 
And oh, yeah, by the way, now 

1758
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,840
you got George Lombard going 
from 2A, which he absolutely 

1759
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,360
crushed with A312 average and a 
950 OPS and loud power. 

1760
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,440
Like it was loud. 
It was with authority, like he 

1761
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:58,320
was barreling and oh, yeah, he's
20. 

1762
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:03,400
He's going to be what's he 2021 
and his defense is already Major

1763
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,040
League ready. 
Like he's a great defender and 

1764
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,360
he had to earn it like he had a 
hit just because people say, oh,

1765
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,760
it's the Yankees top prospect. 
If you have a 640 in the OPS of 

1766
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,080
the minors, I don't give a shit 
what people think you are 

1767
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,600
prospect wise. 
You got to show that you can 

1768
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,920
bang. 
You got to prove that you can 

1769
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,560
hit. 
And I love and Judge was talking

1770
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:22,880
about this. 
I was reading some stuff from 

1771
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,720
Judge where Judge talked about 
how we kind of tweaked some, you

1772
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,480
know, some approach things, some
mechanical things. 

1773
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,760
Didn't really go into the weeds 
as to what it was, but I love 

1774
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,120
that because you see early Aaron
Judge footage and he was very 

1775
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,480
susceptible. 
Remember when Max Scherzer was 

1776
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:41,640
toying with him in in Queens a 
couple of years ago during the 

1777
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,400
Subway Series? 
That outside slider like Judge 

1778
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,160
had it up and end. 
Judge had a couple of holes that

1779
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,480
he had to clean up, which he 
did. 

1780
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,760
And the great ones go to school.
And I'm not saying Lombard's 

1781
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,040
going to be great, but I'm 
saying I can't wait to see what 

1782
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,080
he does at AAA. 
And what I am saying in no 

1783
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,800
uncertain terms, he is 
absolutely in play for the Bronx

1784
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,200
in 2026. 
The Yankees aren't doing what 

1785
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,720
they just did yesterday by 
elevating him up the AAA after 

1786
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,400
20 games. 
If they didn't think that they 

1787
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,920
wanted to at least force him, 
not force. 

1788
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:14,640
That's the wrong word. 
Reward him and now factor him in

1789
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,080
as an option for this season. 
So that's where we are. 

1790
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,840
Things are interesting. 
You know, they get now the Volpe

1791
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,920
thing's going to be different 
type of interesting. 

1792
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,640
But the Yankees pitching, and 
I'm with you, I don't like what 

1793
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,560
I'm seeing from Bednar. 
It's a bit of a problem there. 

1794
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,160
But the Yankees pitching is on 
lock and you got a tandem and 

1795
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,600
Judge and Rice, you got young 
arms coming up. 

1796
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,520
You got a a young bat who can 
field and can run and who's got 

1797
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,360
an amazing IQ. 
That's what everybody says. 

1798
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,560
Like one thing that Boone told 
me he's like, he's like, yeah, 

1799
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,240
he's the real deal man. 
I remember him telling me that 

1800
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,600
during the spring. 
He's like, he just fits. 

1801
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,480
And you know, one thing that you
know, people who do this for a 

1802
01:24:49,480 --> 01:24:52,160
living, they can certainly tell 
better than me. 

1803
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:57,680
Like when a young, highly touted
prospect comes in and and 

1804
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,360
obviously has the work ethic, 
but fits in and it's not 

1805
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,360
overwhelmed by the stage or the 
magnitude of the Yankees and 

1806
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,040
being around Judge and all that 
stuff. 

1807
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,320
He was just like clockwork. 
He just said, yeah, he looks 

1808
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,520
like he need. 
He absolutely knows what he's 

1809
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,840
and his dad played. 
His dad has a lot of background 

1810
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,880
too. 
So not so like with Bichette. 

1811
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,040
His dad plays guys like that wit
those guys, even those dad was a

1812
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,360
pitcher those guys. 
Not that it's short because 

1813
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:24,720
there's a lot of guys who didn't
make it. 

1814
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,600
But like Prince, you know, 
Prince Fielder was really good 

1815
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,800
before he got hurt And Cecil, 
you know when when you grow up, 

1816
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,320
you know, booting his his pops, 
his grandfather was around the 

1817
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,120
clubhouse. 
When you grow up and you're 

1818
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,400
around that, it's common. 
You just not going to be 

1819
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,040
overwhelmed. 
So there's a lot of reasons to 

1820
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,120
be excited about the Yankees, 
man, I'm pumped up. 

1821
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,360
I'm absolutely pumped up. 
I want to give you something 

1822
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,160
else here. 
I'm not going to spend a lot of 

1823
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:50,480
time on this here today, but I 
want to at least pay it off a 

1824
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,320
little bit. 
Let me see if we got here. 

1825
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,960
BT coming with the old school 
slang bite. 

1826
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,080
Well, is it that? 
Well, yeah, things come back in 

1827
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,280
style, right? 
Like retro shirts J Rod uses. 

1828
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,960
I don't know, I feel like bite 
is like a very I, I, I think a 

1829
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,720
lot of like even in pop culture,
I think it's still pretty 

1830
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,320
popular, like. 
Yeah, it might be right what we 

1831
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,520
used to say. 
I remember when I was young, the

1832
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,240
big word was fresh. 
Yeah, I mean, I, I love that 

1833
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,320
one. 
That's like one of my 

1834
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,760
favourites. 
I think that's still it's, it's 

1835
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,520
not OK. 
I think with the generation 

1836
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,840
below me starting three years, 
five years younger than me, they

1837
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,160
probably don't say fresh as 
much, but I think my like my era

1838
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:35,920
of Gen. 
Z definitely still does. 

1839
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,200
Well, think about when it 
started. 

1840
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,520
I mean, I don't know if this is 
the absolute origin of of it, 

1841
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,560
but you know, it doesn't hurt 
when you got Dougie fresh, you 

1842
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,080
know, hitting up that. 
Beatbox you though. 6 minutes, 

1843
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,680
Dougie, fresh your own, bring 
her home. 

1844
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,320
Like that's how. 
Yeah, a little bad drop, a 

1845
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:51,560
little beat box. 
Yeah, it's getting stale. 

1846
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,040
I used to be able to do it 
pretty well, but I remember a 

1847
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,200
good family friend of mine out 
east, this was a Long Island 

1848
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,040
word. 
He used the word like I would 

1849
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,320
say fresh or not even dope, like
bad dope. 

1850
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,040
Now for a lot of people, I don't
really say that. 

1851
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,840
I don't say dope. 
I say fresh, tight, sick. 

1852
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,320
He would say mint, mint. 
And I liked it, but I just 

1853
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,240
never, I never incorporated into
the vernacular. 

1854
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,600
But you know, those kinds of 
things. 

1855
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,840
That's because it, it reminds me
of like European people, like 

1856
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,280
they go like our boy St. he'd 
probably go, yo, that's class. 

1857
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,840
That's class, bro. 
Like that's class. 

1858
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:31,680
And I, I, I studied in London 
for like a month or so my junior

1859
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,200
year and like, I really, it's 
similar. 

1860
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,800
Like I really enjoyed like the 
use of that's class like as like

1861
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,800
a descriptor. 
But I was like, I can't, I'm 

1862
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,920
not, I can't ever incorporate 
this. 

1863
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,760
Yeah, Listen, you can't just 
take everything you got to see, 

1864
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,040
you know, what fits your 
persona. 

1865
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,360
Yeah. 
All right, So you and I, I'm 

1866
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,600
going to do this kind of quick 
here, by the way, tomorrow 

1867
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,280
again, Mike. 
Real quick, I think we may have 

1868
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,760
a caller on the line, but I'm 
not sure. 

1869
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,880
It's like I don't know if you 
can see it at the bottom. 

1870
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,640
Let me just. 
Let me good job producing. 

1871
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,600
I mean, hey yo, by the way, we 
might have a caller where you 

1872
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,120
might. 
No like it says his name but. 

1873
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,920
The camera is is. 
I've never, I've never, I've 

1874
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,800
never seen this kind of visual 
we're seeing. 

1875
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,760
Let me. 
Just you want to roll the dice, 

1876
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,280
Hey, I'm going to give you the 
authority. 

1877
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:15,520
I'm going to give you executive 
power. 

1878
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:16,840
Your call, man. 
I'm good with it. 

1879
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,360
Roll the dice. 
All right, Jay. 

1880
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,360
Jay, can you hear us? 
Yeah, I can hear you. 

1881
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:23,160
Can you hear me? 
Hey. 

1882
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,200
Yeah, we got you, Jared J Rod, 
One for One. 

1883
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:29,960
Where you at, Jay? 
Hey, I'm in Fort Collins, Co. 

1884
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,720
Brother Colorado. 
Wow. 

1885
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:36,600
OK, nice. 
Yeah, I, I've been listening to 

1886
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,040
you for years. 
I listened to the fan, and when 

1887
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,120
you moved over here, I came with
you. 

1888
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,000
I listened to you every day. 
And it's funny that you just 

1889
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,320
threw out the reference of mint.
I grew up on Long Island. 

1890
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,560
Everything was mint, everything 
when I was a teenager, that that

1891
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,760
was like the biggest word. 
That's so funny that you brought

1892
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,120
that up man. 
Listen. 

1893
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,680
Yeah, he would. 
He would. 

1894
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,040
Listen. 
Good family friend. 

1895
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,640
He was absolutely out of his 
mind. 

1896
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,840
I mean, this dude was wild, man.
I mean, you want to talk about 

1897
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,560
trouble? 
I remember one time we're out of

1898
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,400
East, right? 
And he had just gotten his 

1899
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,200
license. 
He had some shit box that was 

1900
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,280
like souped up, like, you know, 
paint job and tinted windows. 

1901
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,000
And he drove the car on a pond. 
Now it was the dead of the 

1902
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,640
winter. 
He's driving on a pond and like,

1903
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,560
and I'm in the I'm in the front 
seat. 

1904
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,040
I'm like, this guy's out of his 
mind, dude out of absolutely 

1905
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,040
nuts, but a great guy and he 
would always say men. 

1906
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,520
So what's up That's? 
Awesome. 

1907
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,760
Hey, so so I'm a big MET fan and
before I get to and before I get

1908
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:41,440
to my MET point, the guy that 
calls you from like North 

1909
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:44,440
Carolina or something, you you 
were trying to figure out like 

1910
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:47,320
whose voice he sounds like? 
Yeah, he. 

1911
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,880
He calls you about the Mets. 
Are you a Howard Stern fan? 

1912
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:56,800
I used to be. 
OK, the guy that calls you 

1913
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:01,440
sounds like Eric the Midget. 
I mean, if we start getting some

1914
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:03,640
of Howard's people that that's 
not a bad thing for the channel,

1915
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:04,800
right? 
We'll, we'll take whatever we 

1916
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,480
can get. 
You know, maybe Robin could call

1917
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:07,440
in someday. 
Maybe How? 

1918
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,440
We yeah, yeah, that. 
Well, hey man, we're on a win 

1919
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,520
one game-winning streak with the
Mets. 

1920
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,560
He's a big, big, big shut out. 
Ain't nothing. 

1921
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,120
Yeah. 
You know, I mean, you got to 

1922
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,040
take, you got to take it however
you can get it, brother, I mean.

1923
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,840
I'm not going to dump on a win. 
You got to win. 

1924
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,280
You know, I mean, we're going to
go for two today. 

1925
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,640
I don't, you know, I don't know 
what our odds are of doing that,

1926
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,040
but you know, one game, all 
right, 8 something. 

1927
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,920
I mean, shit, we, we haven't, we
haven't scored eight runs in 

1928
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,880
five games. 
And no, that's true. 

1929
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,560
I mean, before yesterday, the 
Mets had scored two runs or less

1930
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,320
in 14 of the 28 games they 
played. 

1931
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,920
I mean, everything basically 
last in everything. 

1932
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,520
When the Mets come to Colorado, 
you go to the games against the 

1933
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,520
Rockies or no? 
Well, it's funny that you say 

1934
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,760
that because they'll be out here
the first May 8th, I believe. 

1935
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:01,960
And I'm glad I didn't buy 
tickets yet because, you know, 

1936
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:03,440
they're pretty crappy. 
I'm. 

1937
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,000
Almost at the tickets be to go 
watch the Colorado Rockies, man.

1938
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,200
Yeah, but when, when the Mets, 
when the Mets come to town, 

1939
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,120
like, like I want to, you know, 
I I get good seats. 

1940
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,480
Like I don't want to sit up in 
the boondocks. 

1941
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:21,400
But I mean, out here, here are 
good seats for the Rockies. 

1942
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,920
You could sit 10 rows from the 
field for 100 bucks. 

1943
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,320
That's great. 
No, it's, it's one of the 

1944
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,040
stadiums I want to go to that 
I've never, I've been outside of

1945
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:34,920
it, but I've never been, I've 
never seen a game at at the 

1946
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,440
field. 
And it looks gorgeous on TV, 

1947
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:37,640
especially when the weather's 
nice. 

1948
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,000
It really does look like a nice 
stadium. 

1949
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,400
Everybody who's been there raves
about it. 

1950
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,200
Yeah, I mean it, it's great. 
But the problem is. 

1951
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,440
Like, you know, that's the 
problem. 

1952
01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:50,080
The team, the team sucks. 
So it's it's so it's it's all 

1953
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,520
the other fans. 
Like when the Mets are in town, 

1954
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:57,040
it's 80% Met fans there and same
for every team. 

1955
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,000
Like when the Dodgers come to 
town to get it. 

1956
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,800
I mean like the whole stadium is
just all Dodgers. 

1957
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,280
I know. 
What about the Giants? 

1958
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,720
I would think the Giants would 
get a lot of fans too, right? 

1959
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,360
Oh yeah. 
I mean, all all the because 

1960
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:12,840
there's so many transplants out 
here that unless it's a really 

1961
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,440
crappy team, you know, it's like
those fans show up. 

1962
01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:18,720
It's sort of like the Vegas 
Raiders, you know, it's. 

1963
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,520
Like these people? 
Just, you know, they, they just 

1964
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,600
show up to the game and plus 
it's cheap. 

1965
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,040
Well, but but Jay, think about 
this too. 

1966
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,560
You think about when when 
baseball expanded right in the 

1967
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,960
90s and you got the Marlins and 
you got the Rockies. 

1968
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:35,600
Like, you know, when be before 
like westward expansion, when 

1969
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,800
the Dodgers and the Giants went 
from New York out West in, in 

1970
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,520
the late 50's. 
The there's an entire generation

1971
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,240
that all right, I'm a Giants fan
because the Rockies were nowhere

1972
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,200
near being born. 
I'm a Giants fan and you know, 

1973
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,320
you hold on to those roots. 
I get it, you know. 

1974
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,160
Man, you guys are doing a great 
job. 

1975
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,680
I listen every day, brother, out
here in Fort Collins and. 

1976
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,440
Thanks man. 
Keep up the good work. 

1977
01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:01,760
You got it. 
I'll talk to you soon. 

1978
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,640
Bro, thank you, Jay. 
Now good luck to you Mets man. 

1979
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,200
Let's get on a little streak 
here for those guys. 

1980
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,480
I'm I'm happy that the Jay good 
job punching that through It 

1981
01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:09,920
worked out. 
You know, I almost took a job in

1982
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,080
in in Denver. 
I've only been to Denver, I 

1983
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,400
think twice. 
This was really early in my 

1984
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,520
career and I think I made the 
right well, I made the right 

1985
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,240
decision, but and it's nothing 
against Denver. 

1986
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,040
So there's a massive sports 
station out there K fan, right? 

1987
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:28,400
It's like it's like they're WFAN
massive great ratings, great 

1988
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:33,000
revenue, great history. 
It was it was born after WFAN, 

1989
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,040
obviously, But what are the 
great sports stations in in the 

1990
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,240
country like? 
You know, I would say obviously 

1991
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:44,720
FAN in terms of local stuff, I 
would say KNBR out in San 

1992
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:48,680
Francisco, certainly WIP down in
Philly. 

1993
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,480
K fans up there in my point, 
right, the ticket out in Detroit

1994
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,760
anyway. 
So this was like, I don't know. 

1995
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,040
Is is it time for the the short 
story made long by beat? 

1996
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,360
I'll try to make it short. 
OK, Thank God I didn't take this

1997
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,720
job because I would have been 
awful at it. 

1998
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,440
And that's like the only thing 
that I, I, I've never said about

1999
01:34:06,440 --> 01:34:09,160
any job, but I, I think I turned
it down rightfully. 

2000
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,960
So I'm in Vegas and I'm at that 
old big national network, the 

2001
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,040
sports fan radio network in the 
early 2000s, right. 

2002
01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:19,160
And it's like Pharrell. 
I've, I've mentioned this 

2003
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,760
Pharrell, the sports babe, gym 
Rome, bunch of industry beasts 

2004
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,200
and I'm, I'm doing weekend shows
and I'm doing updates, right? 

2005
01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:27,520
And one of our, and that's how I
wound up getting the job in 

2006
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,800
Detroit because one of our 
affiliates, which was my next 

2007
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,320
stop was, was Detroit. 
I mean, it was really a big 

2008
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,760
network and had a great time 
living in Vegas. 

2009
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:36,880
How could you not in your mid 
20s? 

2010
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:37,920
That's where it was based out 
of. 

2011
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,960
So one of our affiliates, J Rod 
was in Colorado. 

2012
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:46,280
And then what happened was the, 
the, the, the money engine 

2013
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,440
behind the network. 
I, oh, I do remember the name, 

2014
01:34:48,440 --> 01:34:50,640
but I'm not going to say it. 
They pulled the plug. 

2015
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,600
You know what, they went a 
different direction and the, the

2016
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,680
network went from incredibly 
viable and incredibly profitable

2017
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,440
with this, with well over 200 
affiliates across the country to

2018
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:01,640
non existent. 
It was gone. 

2019
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,160
So everybody had everybody had 
to find a job, right. 

2020
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,600
So, you know, imagine being in, 
in Vegas. 

2021
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,680
I was there for about AI got a 
job quickly, thank God. 

2022
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,560
But imagine being in Vegas with 
no job for a month, being 25 

2023
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,280
years old. 
No, what do you even do? 

2024
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,160
I mean, I guess like I have a 
thought of what you do. 

2025
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,400
We add it in times 10, whatever 
that boat is. 

2026
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,560
So anyway, little story short, 
so a couple of the stations 

2027
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,160
reached out to our bosses like, 
hey, I I like this kid Tyranny. 

2028
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,360
He's young, he's got great 
energy, a little raw, whatever. 

2029
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:32,560
But so a couple of the 
affiliates flew me out and I 

2030
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,280
would go when I would meet the 
station and they flew me at Tim 

2031
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,600
Spence, good guy who used to run
K fan. 

2032
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,240
That's the name. 
I, I don't know what Tim's doing

2033
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,800
now, but if he's out there, Tim 
was always good to me. 

2034
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,680
So shout out to Tim. 
They, they fly me out of he 

2035
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,000
picks me up at the airport. 
We go to dinner. 

2036
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,080
One of my buddies who was 
working, who I had worked with 

2037
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,040
in Vegas prior, one of my best 
friends, he was at my wedding. 

2038
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,400
Chad, great dude was already in 
Denver. 

2039
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,960
So I go out there and the plan 
was, I think cuz I was still 

2040
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,280
young, I think to do like 
morning up, morning updates. 

2041
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,640
Kind of like Jerry. 
Kind of like Jerry. 

2042
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:02,840
Got it. 
Got. 

2043
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:04,760
It great at that. 
Jerry is so good at that. 

2044
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,960
He's awesome at that. 
Jerry's great guy. 

2045
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,680
I love Jerry. 
I don't I wouldn't have been 

2046
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,240
nearly as good because I just 
wanted to host. 

2047
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,800
I wouldn't have given the the 
updates any attention, which one

2048
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,000
of the reasons why I didn't take
the job. 

2049
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,560
But also host Saturday and 
Sunday and like do some stuff 

2050
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,800
around like the post game, like 
the Denver Nuggets and the 

2051
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,880
Avalanche and I think maybe even
some Bronco stuff. 

2052
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,760
It was a it was a a lot of 
different hats. 

2053
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:30,600
Anyway, when I fly out there, 
they put me on the air and I 

2054
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,840
wound up doing a trial show on a
Saturday and a Sunday, like 2-4 

2055
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,600
hour stints. 
And I'm, I'm doing a great job. 

2056
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,680
I'm feeling good. 
Yeah, I'm, again, I'm wrong. 

2057
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:40,920
I'm young, but I got great 
energy. 

2058
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,840
Whatever. 
Then I start getting calls about

2059
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,960
the Colorado Avalanche, about 
hockey, about the third line for

2060
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,360
the Avalanche. 
I'm like, you better not fucking

2061
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,040
take this shot, dude. 
You're going to be out of here 

2062
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:51,640
in a week. 
I don't know anything about. 

2063
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,760
All I know was like, I don't 
know who. 

2064
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,000
I'm trying to think of some of 
the great players from the 

2065
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,280
Avalanche back then. 
I I can't even come up with one 

2066
01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:59,560
that I know. 
I know it was some of the old 

2067
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,480
timers, but they're escaping me 
now. 

2068
01:37:01,480 --> 01:37:03,360
I'm like, maybe Ray Borg, I 
don't know. 

2069
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:07,120
Before he went to the Bruin. 
I don't even know, but like, or 

2070
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:08,120
maybe you went from the Bruins 
day. 

2071
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,800
Either way, I'm like, Get Me Out
of here, man Like what? 

2072
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,240
It started out great. 
Oh, what should Denver? 

2073
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,800
What did the Nuggets doing the 
draft? 

2074
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,080
What about the Rockies pit dad? 
This is simple. 

2075
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,840
This is a beautiful state. 
I mean, it's absolutely it's one

2076
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,320
of the prettiest states of our 
fifty. 

2077
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,320
It's gorgeous, right? 
I would rank a top five, 

2078
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,480
actually. 
But as those hockey calls 

2079
01:37:27,480 --> 01:37:29,120
started coming in, I started 
getting nervous. 

2080
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,040
I'm like, dude, I don't know if 
this side turned it down. 

2081
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,280
And then and then it worked out.
And by the way, I had to talk 

2082
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,000
hockey in Detroit too, but at 
least I figured that out with 

2083
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,040
the Red Wings. 
At the time, like how did you 

2084
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:41,720
pivot like when you were asked 
that? 

2085
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,000
Question I have no generalities 
buddy. 

2086
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,280
Number one, I faked it, fake it 
till you make it. 

2087
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,200
And and I just I was I was 
trying to pivot like really. 

2088
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,880
Like I could be totally honest 
if I'm listening to that, I may 

2089
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,640
have said like, Oh, this guy's 
out of his mind. 

2090
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,720
Oh, this guy's interesting. 
This guy's different. 

2091
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:58,600
This guy's nuts. 
Like, you know, certain 

2092
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,680
characteristics that were always
appealing to me as a sports 

2093
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,520
radio consumer. 
So on some level, maybe some of 

2094
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,440
the listeners were liking it. 
But like, I would just like, you

2095
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:10,040
know, if you would have dumped 
somebody in New York like back 

2096
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,840
in the day and you ask about the
Yankee bullpen and he doesn't 

2097
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,920
know anything, I'm like, get 
this clown out of here. 

2098
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,280
Can't work here. 
He can't talk about the Yankees 

2099
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,880
bullpen getting lost, dude. 
So I'm sure a lot of people were

2100
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,720
saying were saying that, you 
know, but the truth of the 

2101
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,160
matter is, it's funny that you 
ask that, like what did I do? 

2102
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,440
I faked it really is what I did.
But that's like one of the 

2103
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:32,200
things that you'll and it's so 
different now because like now 

2104
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,720
you could do specialized 
content, YouTube world, all that

2105
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,800
stuff, right? 
But you know, back then I 

2106
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,400
thought that I had to know 
everything. 

2107
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:42,760
Like I, I thought that I had 
that you had to know everything 

2108
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,160
and nobody knows everything. 
Nobody. 

2109
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:48,640
So you know, what you do is you 
learn to play what's hot and you

2110
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,040
play the hits and you got to 
have strong opinions and you got

2111
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,240
to be entertaining and all that 
stuff. 

2112
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,760
But you got to have good guests.
You know, you don't bring in the

2113
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:56,960
D listers when you get a guest, 
make sure it's a big name. 

2114
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,040
Know how to do a real interview,
get some juice out of it, have a

2115
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,760
presence. 
But you, you just the art of of 

2116
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,800
of it. 
Maybe maybe not as much YouTube,

2117
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,240
but again, old, older 
conventional radio. 

2118
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,400
And I love radio. 
You know, it's never this when I

2119
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:15,120
bring this up, but it's about 
the presentation of knowing 

2120
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,960
everything, even though nobody 
does, even though it's less 

2121
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,720
about knowing stuff now, maybe 
then it is a lot more 

2122
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,080
entertainment. 
It's it's definitely more. 

2123
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,320
I see what you're. 
Saying so, like under radio, 

2124
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,360
there's a greater pretense that,
like, the host is like this 

2125
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,080
super knowledgeable figure who 
knows everything about sports in

2126
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,240
the world, where is like 
YouTube, you know exactly what 

2127
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,720
you're getting. 
You're getting BT There's not 

2128
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,440
some weird like farce around. 
Like, yeah. 

2129
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:42,720
I see, I'll put it this way. 
Yep #1 You lay it out well #2 

2130
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,680
put it out this way. 
Like if somebody called in and 

2131
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,440
they're like, hey, I want to 
talk to BT about what he was 

2132
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:50,080
saying about the Knicks, right? 
And they pivot and they're like,

2133
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,960
yo BT what do you think? 
You know, I don't know the, the 

2134
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,600
Rangers third line or you know, 
what are the Iowas going to do 

2135
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,520
this offseason? 
I'd be like, I have no idea. 

2136
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,600
And right now I really don't 
care cuz I'm talking about the 

2137
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,280
Knicks and I'm worried about the
gangs and the Mets. 

2138
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,400
Then I just wrapped up The Jets 
giant strap where if I would 

2139
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,480
have gotten that call when I was
really young. 

2140
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,640
I I, you know, not that I'd 
stumble and stammer all over the

2141
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,120
place. 
I would just make something up, 

2142
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,200
I'm sure. 
But you know what I mean. 

2143
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:14,600
Like you? 
Yeah. 

2144
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,960
Yeah, I, I. 
But there's no false pretense. 

2145
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,520
I know what I know, you know, I 
love what I love and what I 

2146
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,120
don't. 
I just I don't really pay much 

2147
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,000
intent. 
Now, you know, a couple like, 

2148
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,920
you know, with Tiki and and the 
first year with Sal, like the 

2149
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,120
Rangers were really good. 
So I would watch the Ranger 

2150
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,560
playoff games and at least be 
able to talk about it in general

2151
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:37,920
terms and even maybe slightly 
more, but not as well as, you 

2152
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,680
know, some of the other people 
on the station that really like,

2153
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,200
you know, love and watch hockey 
is what it is. 

2154
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,000
That basically makes shit up. 
There you go. 

2155
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,640
No, I mean, listen, listen, 
that's this. 

2156
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,320
That's this whole content 
creation. 

2157
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,600
Thing Oh, oh, here we go. 
The blind bit. 

2158
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,200
Finally we won a game Playoffs 
next. 

2159
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:58,200
Let's oh, that's the old Pete. 
They'll throw the F in the air. 

2160
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:01,080
Let's bleep and go Mets. 
Now you go Mets, do you? 

2161
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,960
I don't understand. 
What was Juan Soto doing last 

2162
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,360
night? 
I mean, what would I know? 

2163
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,080
We had a bomb the other way. 
And hopefully his his arm's 

2164
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,600
going to be not going to be an 
issue. 

2165
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,120
Like to see the Mets get their 
act together a little bit here. 

2166
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,400
Although it is always fun. 
Like you don't want to be 

2167
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,680
average. 
Like even the Yankees like to 

2168
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,600
me, it's no fun when the Yankees
are are average or like 

2169
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,560
interesting, but nowhere near a 
World Series, nowhere near 

2170
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,320
bottoming out. 
Like that's kind of mundane 

2171
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,280
boring stuff like if you're 
going to suck, go up in flames. 

2172
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,560
So, you know, if the if the Mets
RIP off 5 in a row, I will I 

2173
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,680
will I will give them respect 
and I'll talk about it. 

2174
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,440
But you know, I mean, if it 
doesn't lead to sustained play 

2175
01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:42,080
the rest of the way, it could be
just a little blip. 

2176
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:43,480
I have no idea what the Mets are
going to do. 

2177
01:41:43,480 --> 01:41:45,400
I'm not even make a prediction. 
Like I don't think the Mets 

2178
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,280
roster is very good, but it's 
not a bad sign when you see him 

2179
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,000
Bichette go the other way going 
yard. 

2180
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,280
You see Soto cranking one the 
other way. 

2181
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,080
You know, who knows, though. 
I I don't really know where this

2182
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,360
is going to go. 
All right, Jay, real fast on 

2183
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,360
this man. 
So we were talking about a 

2184
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:05,320
little little bit about the the 
change here to the NCAA, right, 

2185
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,240
the expansion of the tournament.
The first of all, just as a 

2186
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:09,760
general concept, does this 
interest you? 

2187
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,000
Do you have like? 
What's your initial? 

2188
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:15,280
Any resistance? 
I mean here, break it down for 

2189
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,400
me real quick and then and then 
I'll I'll give you my thoughts. 

2190
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:21,040
So that's J Rod basically saying
I have no idea what's happening,

2191
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,240
let BT tell everybody, then I'll
give you a reaction. 

2192
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,160
Exactly. 
Or just give me some time to 

2193
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,440
look it up. 
You don't have to look it up. 

2194
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:28,760
I'll lay it out. 
It's it's pretty simple. 

2195
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,680
I've got it all written out. 
I got all the stuff you need to 

2196
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,640
know here, number one. 
All right, let's see here, 

2197
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,320
number one. 
OK, so it's coming this season 

2198
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,760
and it's been talking. 
It's not like it's all down the 

2199
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,760
it's coming up this season. 
It's going to happen, right? 

2200
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,320
And and I think now I'm always 
skeptical because I think the 

2201
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,720
NCAA is a bunch of clowns. 
I think they're greedy, I think 

2202
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,040
they're lost, I think they're 
idiots. 

2203
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,840
I think the NCAA stinks. 
I can't stand what it's become. 

2204
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,280
I love Saint John's, I love the 
Big East, I love the big Dance, 

2205
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,400
I love conference tournaments, 
but and I'm not even resistant 

2206
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,840
to NIL, but because they should 
get paid. 

2207
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,920
But the transfer portal, it's 
just no familiarity with 

2208
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,520
rosters. 
College basketball, I was lucky,

2209
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,600
I know back on the back of the 
day, but I really was lucky. 

2210
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:12,160
These guys were there 234 years.
Rivalries, got every guy that 

2211
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,720
got drafted. 
I'd watched him play for years 

2212
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,760
in the NBA draft. 
So it's different, all right? 

2213
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,000
Different doesn't mean bad 
always. 

2214
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,280
But in this case, for me, it 
does. 

2215
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,120
Just to get that out of the way.
So I'm always cynical with the 

2216
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,360
NC double AI. 
Got to tell you though, based on

2217
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,240
everything that I read and not 
just comments from the NCAA, 

2218
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,760
from people who have no real 
skin in the game in terms of 

2219
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:35,920
representing the NCAA, just to 
be fair, it's not really to move

2220
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,800
money. 
It's that the primary focus 

2221
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,880
isn't money. 
And I know that that sounds 

2222
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,520
counterintuitive or 
counterproductive. 

2223
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,240
You're going to make a little 
bit more money. 

2224
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:46,360
But it really it's just about 
rewarding the at large power 

2225
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:50,520
conferences because there's 
schism now between, you know, 

2226
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,080
the powers and then obviously 
the Big East, which is terrific.

2227
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,600
And this year it was down, but 
obviously Nova's won a couple of

2228
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,800
championship. 
Uconn's a great team, obviously.

2229
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,280
So I just say that you have to 
throw the Big East in with the 

2230
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:02,880
Big 10 and the ACC and all that 
stuff. 

2231
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:07,440
So here's the way it's going to 
look when you hear NCAA 

2232
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:09,640
Tournament expansion. 
Why are we messing with this? 

2233
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:10,960
It's one of the best things out 
there. 

2234
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,960
Like the Masters, you know, like
those other sporting staples, 

2235
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,560
the Derby, which is coming up 
this week, it's not going to 

2236
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,680
really look that different. 
It's only going to impact the 

2237
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,040
start of it. 
So now we had the 1st 4, which 

2238
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,080
is in Dayton and St. 
John's played that a couple of 

2239
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,600
years ago. 
So it was cool to see that. 

2240
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,520
It's a good older gym. 
Some a lot of history there. 

2241
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,560
You got the eight teams and you 
have the four games in Dayton. 

2242
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,600
That's the way the new model 
field, the 68. 

2243
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,800
The only difference here, Jay, 
and I'm going to give you 

2244
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,840
thumbnails so you can really 
react to this, all right? 

2245
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:41,800
Instead of eight teams, instead 
of eight teams, it's not going 

2246
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:46,280
to be 24 in Dayton. 
Well, also what other side? 

2247
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,640
I'll tell you where that's going
to be in a minute. 

2248
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,120
And instead of four games, 
there's going to be 12. 

2249
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,920
So the only thing that's going 
to be impacted is the early 

2250
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,000
part. 
Thursday and Friday is going to 

2251
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,280
remain the same schedule with 
the same amount of team. 

2252
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:01,680
So first game it's a 12/12 on 
Thursday with 1216, whatever it 

2253
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,760
is. 
And then the last game, you 

2254
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:07,840
know, Gonzaga, San Diego State, 
UCLA, you know some of those 

2255
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,240
teams out West or eastern teams 
that get sent out West, you know

2256
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,720
you're going to be watching 
basketball up until midnight on 

2257
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,040
Thursday and Friday the 1st. 
So that is not going to change 

2258
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,040
at all. 
The only thing that's going to 

2259
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:22,880
change is more games early, 
higher profile teams in the 

2260
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:27,280
tournament early. 
There will be one site in Dayton

2261
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,320
and then the other site and it's
not settled yet on where it's 

2262
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,600
going to be, but it's going to 
be out West for a logistical 

2263
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,160
aspect. 
So all the games won't be in 

2264
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,040
Dayton. 
Dayton will get half and then 

2265
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,320
you'll have a pot out West for 
the 1st 4. 

2266
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:43,320
But really now the first 12 I 
guess, Yeah, yeah, first 12 with

2267
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,000
a western sight West of the 
Mississippi at least. 

2268
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,960
So that's the long and short of 
it. 

2269
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:52,880
You basically get 8 more games 
featuring more teams and and 

2270
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,720
that's the only difference. 
You got a problem with it. 

2271
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,680
No, I mean, to me it doesn't 
sound too egregious just yet. 

2272
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,920
The only thing I think is, yeah,
like someone down here puts it, 

2273
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:06,080
well, like 76 teams is a 
showcase for pro scouts. 

2274
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:11,280
I think it kind of it 
definitely, you know, and I 

2275
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,280
think we've talked about this 
with Saint John's bringing in 

2276
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,120
the European players. 
It. 

2277
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:21,560
Sort of adds to this transition 
that the NCAA is making into 

2278
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:25,000
this like quasi pro basketball 
league. 

2279
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:29,640
Like it's not quasi, not yet it 
pro basketball league. 

2280
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,600
Full transition to a pro 
basketball league that it's made

2281
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,960
where now it's like you'll have 
these NCAA teams, hey, you know,

2282
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,680
here's March Madness, a place to
showcase players for G League, 

2283
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,040
NBA, European talent, the whole 
deal. 

2284
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,680
So I think in that sort of, you 
know, I'm not mad at it. 

2285
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:54,400
I just think it's it's only 
going to go further into that 

2286
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,120
direction. 
I agree. 

2287
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,440
I do agree with that. 
Unfortunately, I I don't know 

2288
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:00,960
where the tipping stopping point
is. 

2289
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,080
I don't know. 
There's going to have to be a 

2290
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,400
massive, at some point there's 
going to be a massive 

2291
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,040
recalibration. 
I'm not a lawyer. 

2292
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:09,720
This thing starts hitting 
courts. 

2293
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,640
So that's where you're going to 
probably hit some checkpoints to

2294
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:12,800
where it's going to be pushed 
back. 

2295
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,880
We all know it's got to be 
tweaked on some level and and 

2296
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:20,120
eventually it will. 
But you know, to me, the other 

2297
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,640
advantage here, like I look at 
stuff like this when something's

2298
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,200
going to change and it's pretty 
radical to something that we're 

2299
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,640
very used to. 
I look at all right, what's the 

2300
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,160
bad aspect of it and does it 
outweigh the good? 

2301
01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:32,920
All right. 
Do the fans get penalized more 

2302
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,080
than they get rewarded? 
And I just by the way, I laid it

2303
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,200
out like, I mean, yeah, you can 
use scroll. 

2304
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,400
No, I like tradition. 
I got to have 6 to 18 because, 

2305
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,720
you know, even though it used to
be 64 and before that used to be

2306
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,400
less. 
But I guess you could complain 

2307
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,360
if you want. 
It's not going to impact the 

2308
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,680
viewing because Tuesday, Monday,
Tuesday, who cares, man? 

2309
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,840
Like that's that's not a so 
anybody that enjoys the model 

2310
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,400
now will have that model 
uninterrupted Thursday and 

2311
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,440
Friday and then eventually 32 
and then Sweet 16, Elite 85 and 

2312
01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:02,160
all that stuff. 
So no change there. 

2313
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:06,120
The good aspect, which is why I 
do think this is more good than 

2314
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:11,080
bad, is that you will have more 
big teams. 

2315
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:15,440
All right, I think willing to 
play big, high profile, non 

2316
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:18,480
conference games early because 
the more teams and the more 

2317
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:21,480
slots there are that you get to 
get an invite to go dancing. 

2318
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,200
You're, you know, you're you're 
less concerned about, you know, 

2319
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,320
taking a loss early. 
You're going to challenge 

2320
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:28,520
yourself more and you're going 
to get that net ranking up and 

2321
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,120
you're going to do those. 
The strength, the schedule and 

2322
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,000
all the metrics, the analytics 
that, that the Dolby committee, 

2323
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,280
which still gets it wrong at the
time, even when they lean on 

2324
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,720
meth, like they're lost in that 
room, they're just, they're, 

2325
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,760
they're horrendous. 
They're so dumb. 

2326
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:44,280
And it's so, it's so jilted and 
it's so, I don't want to say 

2327
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:48,160
crooked, but almost crooked 
because you got ADS from schools

2328
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,800
and you know, the committee is 
comprised of people that 

2329
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,520
represent certain people, have 
stronger voices and more Jews 

2330
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,800
because they've been there 
forever, which means their 

2331
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:58,320
conference gets the benefit of 
the day. 

2332
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:59,920
It is what it is. 
We're not stupid here. 

2333
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,200
That happens all the time. 
But I do think that residually 

2334
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,160
there will be a benefit here. 
You will see more tournament, 

2335
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,760
higher profile tournaments and a
more more of a willingness like 

2336
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,800
Pitino's already done this more 
of a willingness to to roll the 

2337
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,320
dice and you know, maybe go and 
play Tom Iswood, Michigan State 

2338
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,720
in a non conference game when 
maybe you would have avoided 

2339
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,280
that. 
Try to pad early on, get some 

2340
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,480
dubs and just make the resume at
least look presentable before 

2341
01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:25,480
you get into conference play. 
So I think that that will 

2342
01:49:25,480 --> 01:49:28,480
actually be good. 
But you know, that's where I'm 

2343
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:29,880
at with that. 
I don't think it's that big of a

2344
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,640
deal. 
No, like I don't not that this 

2345
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,120
is always the case, but you 
know, more basketball the 

2346
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,400
better. 
And I think you know, the more 

2347
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,680
this is obviously good for them.
Like the more schools that you 

2348
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,200
can kind of get invested into a 
single tournament, you know, 

2349
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,840
more, more eyes on the game. 
Never, never a terrible thing. 

2350
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,600
Yeah, this is an I agree. 
This is an interesting text to 

2351
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:54,880
or chat at BB at BBART six O 9. 
The more schools that you add, 

2352
01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:57,800
the more diluted the product 
comes that that's that's true. 

2353
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,320
But then again, even Rick said 
this like the blue bloods, blue 

2354
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,560
bloods are over. 
Like there are no more blue 

2355
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,840
bloods because the money's 
changed all that. 

2356
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,960
You know, like you think blue 
bloods, you think Carolina Huber

2357
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,560
Davis fired, you think Kentucky 
Mark Pope didn't really have a 

2358
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,000
good year. 
If this keeps up, you'll be 

2359
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,920
gone. 
You know, Duke obviously is 

2360
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,480
tremendous. 
That's a blue blood that's 

2361
01:50:17,480 --> 01:50:20,560
maintained it. 
You know, I mean UCLA, given 

2362
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,800
their lineages, a couple of 
teams at Yukon is it has become 

2363
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,720
one Michigan State, you know, 
Michigan, but you know, you just

2364
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,000
don't know. 
I mean, you could have a team 

2365
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:33,000
out of nowhere like Grand Valley
who has some crazy NIL fund. 

2366
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,360
No, they could be a Sweet 16 
team. 

2367
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,760
And the reason why I think that 
this text here is interesting. 

2368
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,840
Not saying the extra games won't
be entertaining, but you'll get 

2369
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,360
to the point where a sub 500 
teams are in the tournament. 

2370
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:50,800
Well, yes, and generally I would
push back on that as a singular 

2371
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:56,040
entity, but because of NIL, it's
already diluted to the point 

2372
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,600
where the mid major prowess is 
gone. 

2373
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,280
You know, like before Butler 
joined the Big East and they and

2374
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,520
they got to the championship 
game with Gordon Hayward, right 

2375
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:06,680
play that UConn. 
I was at that final four. 

2376
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,320
I think that one was in Houston,
I think. 

2377
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:12,640
And you know, George Mason back 
in the day making the final four

2378
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:16,720
and VCU, you know, Chaca, you 
know, like those stories are 

2379
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,440
just evaporating because what's 
happening is you get it. 

2380
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,760
One of the players I'm I'll take
George Mason. 

2381
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:23,600
I don't even know if they, I 
think they were pretty good this

2382
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,800
year, but I'm not positive. 
But not what they were. 

2383
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,280
But take their best player, you 
know, 21 points a game, 

2384
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:33,200
conference player of the year. 
You know, maybe he was a 

2385
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,960
sophomore, maybe he popped the 
summer between his first and 

2386
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,960
second year and he went from 8 
1/2 points and nobody was 

2387
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,280
knocking down his door for NIL 
and then boom, he explodes. 

2388
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:43,720
One of the best players in the 
country. 

2389
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,680
Here's $5 billion come to us. 
So what happens? 

2390
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,640
He takes the five mil. 
I'm not mad at you. 

2391
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,840
He goes wherever he goes. 
I'm not mad at you. 

2392
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:54,240
But what I do resent is that 
somebody like George Mason, who 

2393
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:58,280
found that player was at least 
partly responsible for his 

2394
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,360
development. 
Now you got, you know, like 

2395
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,840
parasites, you know, picking at 
that dead body, the carcass, you

2396
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:05,360
know, all these teams with. 
And St. 

2397
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,200
John's is one of them. 
So I got to keep it real. 

2398
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:09,400
You know, St. 
John's had no NIL money when 

2399
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:10,720
there was no, they stunk. 
St. 

2400
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:12,840
John's got NIL money. 
They're good. 

2401
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:17,080
So I can't be, I can't 
contradict things like I hate 

2402
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,520
the system, but I love that St. 
John's has benefited from it. 

2403
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:23,520
That's it. 
And because those stories are, 

2404
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,520
you know, even Indiana State 
back in the day, or Evansville 

2405
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,880
or even little tiny Princeton 
really back in the day, you 

2406
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,800
know, with Pete Carrill back 
dooring you to death and trying 

2407
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:39,600
to win 5349 and just frustrating
these athletic teams, stays are 

2408
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:40,680
over. 
It's gone. 

2409
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,160
So if those days are over and 
you have to know and you have to

2410
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,160
admit that they are, then I 
don't know why you would resist 

2411
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,920
this because you'll at least get
bigger brands there, you know, 

2412
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,320
And I think that it will 
certainly, and this will help 

2413
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:55,240
St. 
John's and I think the Big East 

2414
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,520
will benefit. 
You know, it's tough for Seton 

2415
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,400
Hall to really keep their 
players because they don't have 

2416
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,560
the NIL money that St. 
John's and Yukon does. 

2417
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,760
And, and I love Cheyenne 
Holloway, but they just don't 

2418
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,960
have that money. 
But, you know, I mean, Seton 

2419
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,320
Hall was a fringe tournament, a 
very fringe tournament team last

2420
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,360
year. 
But you add, you know, some more

2421
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,920
teams. 
You had 12 more teams and you 

2422
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,720
know, maybe one more win for the
Pirates. 

2423
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:18,680
Guess what? 
They're they're dancing, which 

2424
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:20,800
means more money for the 
conference dispersed throughout 

2425
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,800
the entire conference. 
So there's a lot of things. 

2426
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,000
They're not a big deal. 
People will complain. 

2427
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,720
But when you look at it the way 
that I just laid it out for you,

2428
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:29,840
there's really not a lot to 
complain about. 

2429
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,560
If you've been following the 
changes in college basketball, 

2430
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,840
in college sport in general and 
college football did it. 

2431
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,040
No, we can't. 
Why not expand? 

2432
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,960
It's great. 
That was one of the best college

2433
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:41,440
like Indiana winning was 
awesome. 

2434
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:43,640
It was phenomenal. 
Man, I love the last year's 

2435
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,760
college football season. 
All right, Jay, I am going to 

2436
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,600
bounce two hours on the button. 
Great stuff. 

2437
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,520
Let's. 
Go good show today, buddy. 

2438
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:55,120
We've got Michael K tomorrow. 
Looking forward to OK, we're 

2439
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,240
going to be good. 
Looking forward to talking shop 

2440
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,520
with with my buddy Mike on the 
Yankees. 

2441
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,680
I can't wait to watch Rodriguez 
pits today. 

2442
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,520
Who knows, maybe the start of a 
little Mets win streak. 

2443
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,200
That would be nice. 
It would be different. 

2444
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,680
We'll see if we get that. 
Nothing with the Knicks, nothing

2445
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,360
with the Celtics tonight. 
Those series resume tomorrow 

2446
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,160
nothing else with the draft 
there that's obviously over we 

2447
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:19,040
kind of resolved that for a for 
the NFL and that's it have a 

2448
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,920
great rest of your Wednesday 
would appreciate the let you 

2449
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,280
guys know. 
I appreciate you checking this 

2450
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:26,920
out every single day BT at least
of course like it sub it jumping

2451
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,600
on The Jets collective as well. 
If you're a big jets fan, no 

2452
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:33,080
matter where you are in the 
world, Jets collective on 

2453
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:37,160
YouTube once a week, myself, 
Jake Asmin Ritsumini sub it, 

2454
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:41,760
comment on this stuff, share it 
like it more and more and more. 

2455
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:44,000
And I think that you guys 
hopefully have noticed what what

2456
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,480
we started doing this week here.
And this is a big credit to J 

2457
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:47,800
Rod. 
He's been awesome with this. 

2458
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,000
It's a little extra work here, 
but it's going to really be good

2459
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,200
for the channel and our growth 
right. 

2460
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,320
He now cuts down. 
We've always had like Chapel not

2461
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,160
at the start we did, but we've 
had chapters. 

2462
01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:59,720
So it's easier for you guys to 
kind of peel through the live 

2463
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:01,600
show. 
But listen, the way YouTube 

2464
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,000
works and you know, still 
figuring things out and tweaking

2465
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,600
things here. 
You know, if you see on the the 

2466
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,440
home page of YouTube, like 
you're not going to see BT 

2467
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,680
unleashed a 2 hour show. 
You're going to watch the show 

2468
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,040
because you're a fan of what I 
do and you're a believer in what

2469
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,640
we do. 
But now what he does is he chops

2470
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:22,120
up two or three segments a day 
and it's only about 8-9 minutes 

2471
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,160
like the other day, you know, 
crushing the Mets where Ben 

2472
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,280
Rice, I'm sure we'll do 
something on, you know, whether 

2473
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,280
it's Cam Schlittler, obviously 
the Knicks. 

2474
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:32,240
So you will now see that stuff 
like you see the shorts and some

2475
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,440
of the interviews, you'll see 
that stuff more and more and 

2476
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:40,000
more visible 6789 minute pop 
specific to what you guys are 

2477
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,960
looking for. 
So, and it is funny like I, I 

2478
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,520
swear to God, I was thinking 
about that over the weekend. 

2479
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,000
It was a central thought of mine
for the show. 

2480
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,000
And J Rod text me Sunday night. 
He's like, dude, he's like, what

2481
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,040
do you think about? 
And he laid it out and I'm like 

2482
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,240
#1 I love that you're so 
proactive. 

2483
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,960
That's why you're my guy #2 I 
was thinking the same exact 

2484
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,960
thing. 
So the alignments there, and 

2485
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,120
it's really good for the 
channel. 

2486
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,760
So make sure you guys check that
out, make sure you like that, 

2487
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:08,880
and make sure you jump in on 
that, get the comments going as 

2488
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:10,000
well. 
All right, I got to roll. 

2489
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,400
Have a great rest of your 
Wednesday and can't wait to 

2490
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,200
watch Elmo Rodriguez pitch in a 
little bit. 

2491
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,840
And I will see you tomorrow with
Michael Kay, our number 2 right 

2492
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:20,040
here on the show. 
Peace. 

2493
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:45,000
you listening?