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Oh, what's going on, everybody? 
BT unleashed out of no rules 

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Friday. 
Hope everybody is doing well and

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today is an historic day on the 
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We're going to take some calls 
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J Rod is in the house. 
We're ready to go. 

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We've got some great, great 
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A lot of Knicks stuff, a lot of 
NBA stuff, little Mike Trout 

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stuff, little Yankee stuff, some
NFL draft rumblings. 

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J Rod, Are you ready to do this?
Are you ready to? 

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Nobody. 
I couldn't be more excited. 

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I mean, here we are, you know, 
bringing a new element brick by 

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brick, click by click, as you 
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But. 
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For this, can't wait till you 
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takes, here's some fun takes, 
but also just interact with the 

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unleashed community, you know, 
really build this up. 

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It's going to be fun. 
We can't take it. 

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I can't wait. 
We'll get to them early. 

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You guys. 
Now just explain very briefly. 

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I know you did this. 
Yes, I know. 

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What's up with the chat there? 
Let everybody know as succinctly

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as you can how we get the 
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Take it away, Jack. 
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Yeah. 
The way we're going to do it, so

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as you can see in the chat and 
in the description, I've got a 

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link to a Stream Yard kind of 
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In that side studio, I'll talk 
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you're calling from and your 
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private chat you in Stream Yard,
the link to this studio. 

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From there, we'll add you, 
you'll talk to BT and there we 

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go. 
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And it's going to. 
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name up on this, like an 
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Island, Willie in Brooklyn, 
Tindy in New Jersey. 

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We'll have all the whole spiel 
ready to roll, right? 

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Yes, Sir, Yes, Sir. 
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already got a couple people in 
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Of course we do. 
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They're ready to roll. 
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equal parts amazing and equal 
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So let's get into it. 
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this. 
I'm so excited. 

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This is something you know, Jay 
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brick by brick, which really is 
the monster of the show. 

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You know, when I'm staring at a,
a yellow piece of paper that I 

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have taped on my wall and it's, 
it's the sub count, you know, a 

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hundred 1025 hundred 5010 
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the 17/8 so on and so forth. 
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20,000, which obviously is a 
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really nice benchmark. 
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when I say click by click by 
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mean, if you've been here from 
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have, which is is so awesome, 
man, it's you just think about 

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the evolution of the show and we
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the first show was in the 
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The Wi-Fi was awful. 
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I had, you know, the Mattingly 
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stuff and then I kind of change 
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Then for about two months or so,
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bouncing off the BT unleashed 
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We took care of that. 
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of an endeavor is sponsorship. 
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secured to had a great dinner 
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Phenomenal, phenomenal over Dino
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It was one of the best meals 
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I believe first of all, it was 
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that more and more good stuff is
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So let's jump into a man today 
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of the calls here, but this is 
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It is, it is nick time. 
It is go time. 

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It is final evaluation time. 
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interpret, you know, whether 
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the answers that we've all been 
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Any Knick discussion this year 
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the mid season cup like the 
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Kolak went bonkers. 
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change, which I really like and 
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about this Nick team the last 
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found pick and roll relationship
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you got a guy who's basically 7 
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earlier in the season. 
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conversations were really about 
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way Leon Rose set up the roster,
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coaching styles compared to Tom 
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Even Jaylen Brunson caught a 
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So we're going to get the 
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Jay, is everything OK? 
You jump. 

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Everything's good. 
Everything's good. 

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I mean, we've I'm ready whenever
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We've got Jerry from 
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He's ready, I mean. 
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Got some Yankees talk ready all.
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I love that listen, look at the 
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Let me just set a couple of 
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Not yet just to finish that 
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We'll do some Yankees obviously 
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with the calls. 
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We'll plow through what's all 
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So you know, when I when I say 
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left to interpret for the 
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don't know how else to frame it 
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either. 
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people. 
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different degrees of pressure. 
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levels of culpability. 
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go certainly as far as they went
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getting to the NBA Finals, I 
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to expect the Knicks to win a 
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the season, I think it's even a 
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Knicks in to get back to where 
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Eastern Conference finals. 
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far or at least match what they 
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team. 
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involve Cat depending upon how 
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further dialogue on the 
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the coach and the two star 
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Leon Rose. 
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Leon Rose did. 
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Mikhail Bridges, gave up a 
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And I liked it at the time. 
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to be the right move and we're 
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soon, You know, and it's crazy 
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I was looking at some of the 
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Well, it doesn't necessarily, 
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I mean, do what you want with 
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are the smallest first round. 
They have the smallest first 

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round odds to win. 
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They're -275 so that tells you, 
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I'm not sold on the Knicks. 
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sold on the Knicks. 
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sit down tomorrow night to watch
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prime. 
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a bit, but 6:00 PM tomorrow 
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You know, I mean, part of me 
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always do, and then have the 
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winning going away. 
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the Hawks here. 
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know, the deeper that you get 
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underdog. 
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emboldened. 
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Hawks think that they can win, 
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have, the more that they that 
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certainly early in the series 
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Knicks like you, you just you 
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Like they absolutely must 
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The Knicks must win this series.
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in the first round, it would be.
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about the recent flame outs and 
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So Jets, go back in the corner 
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with the losers until proven 
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You know, the Giants, couple of 
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playoff game with a team that 
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overachievement. 
Then they got whacked by the 

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Eagles. 
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they've regressed and they 
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That's why John Horbaugh is here
and Jackson Dart and and Daniel 

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Jones is gone. 
But you even need to put the 

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Giants in the side of the room. 
You know, last year's, I think 

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the the thing that would come 
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year's Mets, who won 83 games. 
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without Juan Soto, you know, 
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the World Series. 
Now they lost to the Dodgers, 

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who ultimately beat the Yankees 
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Series, the Dodgers couple of 
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years in a row. 
But and then like, think about 

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how the dynamics of the Mets 
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Like Vientos was an October 
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He crushed the Philadelphia 
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Mets had this energy. 
Mets had this vibe. 

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Bets get Juan Soto. 
You're expecting the next 

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logical step forward. 
And it just I mean, in fantastic

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fashion. 
It just imploded. 

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I mean, where fan favorites and 
stabilizing talented players 

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were shipped out. 
So I I would think and then of 

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course, you know, the Yankees 
got knocked out, obviously did 

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not win the World Series, did 
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without Juan Soto. 
But you know, even that as you 

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unpack the Yankees season, it 
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know, kind of the same old song 
and dance, same line at the same

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line up the running back Yankees
Cashman. 

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This Cashman hasn't earned the 
right to rebuild the Yankees the

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way the Yankees need to be 
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I said that three years ago. 
I got to put it on T-shirts 

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because, you know, I still 
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And then I'll be in the Yankees 
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So we'll get to that in a little
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But and then, you know, the 
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get and and early this year, 
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justified. 
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Boone. 
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you guys pile on because I do 
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with the Yankees is the way that
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they're constructed. 
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coach and not the manager's job.
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back to the Knicks, as you and 
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this year, obviously pretty good
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years Devils are rebuilding. 
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enthusiasm this year before it 
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Like the that's our our young 
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non entity at this point. 
Like this is Nick. 

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This is the next time. 
As much as we get wrapped up and

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nobody loves baseball more than 
me. 

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I watch it every night. 
You watch it every night. 

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We talk it up to some degree 
every day here on the show, on 

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BT Unleashed on the channel. 
But you know, now. 

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Oh, yeah, we'll still watch the 
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And Mets had a day off. 
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regenerate, get their heads out 
of their behinds. 

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They have looked awful. 
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bullpen is like that's kind of 
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team. 
It's it's absolutely disgraceful

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the way the Mets are playing 
baseball. 

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But the baseball teams will be 
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a large extent by the New York 
Knicks. 

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You don't get in the modern NB, 
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you had a core like Bird, 
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core, you know, with Ewing and 
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going to eventually have to run 
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they never did. 
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because Patrick was a superstar 
and you know he was still in his

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absolute prime. 
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together some variation of it 
for a long time and have a 

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couple of swings at winning the 
championship. 

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This is the last swing for this 
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This is it. 
This is the end of the road. 

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I mean, the gas tank is it's 
either all right, get to the 

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next destination or pull over, 
get in the shop and really, you 

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know, lift up the hood and start
changing the engine and all the 

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other stuff with the car. 
So it is a great time at the 

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sports calendar. 
I can't wait again, I if the 

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Knicks are down by 13 in the 
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wouldn't surprise me. 
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and they look phenomenal and the
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winning by 16 or 17, wouldn't 
surprise me. 

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I do believe very confidently 
the Knicks will win. 

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I don't think it's going to be 
that easy. 

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I said this week in five, I'm 
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I'm kind of leaning more towards
6 the more I look and and you 

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know how to look at some of the 
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Very good rebounding team. 
They've got a lot of bigs. 

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They got a 6-7 defender who's 
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Brunson, who's going to really 
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make his life tough. 
Kate Cunningham's a tall 

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defender. 
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taller than Kate. 
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but I'm, I'm equal parts pumped 
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intrigued and I'm equal parts 
nervous because I don't have 

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great confidence in this Knicks 
team. 

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I'm not going to tell you guys 
something I don't believe. 

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Like I, I don't think the Knicks
going to win the championship. 

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I don't even believe the Knicks 
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So I am much more a believer in 
a complete retooling, which 

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obviously opens up a summer 
dialogue. 

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Yanis and the head coach, 
depending upon if and when they 

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get bounced here, like if if 
they lose to the Hawks, it is 

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catastrophic. 
It is unacceptably catastrophic.

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At that point, everybody's got 
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gone, Cats gone. 
I think even some of the other 

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ancillary pieces, you know, 
whether it's a bridges, whether 

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it's an OG, you're going to have
to really reshape this thing and

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get ultra creative and find a 
way for Giannis to force his way

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here because it's and I don't 
even want to get into this too 

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much, too weedsy. 
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the assets that the Knicks have 
in terms of enticing the Bucks 

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to ultimately trade him here, if
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be less than what other teams 
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So the only just because they 
basically gave everything up for

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Bridges. 
So the only way that goddess 

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gets here twofold, Nick's got to
collapse #1 it's possible. 

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And #2 he's got to be very 
heavy-handed behind closed 

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doors. 
It's not his personality to do 

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it where everybody can. 
He's not going to be tweeting. 

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He's not going to go on some 
podcast and eviscerate the 

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bucks. 
He's going to be classy. 

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He's going to be measured 
publicly. 

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But I do believe that this 
summer he's dealt. 

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And I think that there's a good 
chance if things go sideways 

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that he's going to be a Nick. 
All right, J Rod, ready for 

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first call of the show, man, You
ready to go? 

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Yes. 
Sir, yes, Sir. 

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We got Jerry from Hackettstown, 
NJ, so let's. 

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Get the name up there. 
Let's get the name. 

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Make it official. 
Jerry in Hackettstown, NJ, Jerry

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is first up, the historical 
first call, BT Unleashed. 

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Hopefully it's a good one. 
Jerry, what's going on, buddy? 

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Welcome to the show. 
How you doing man What's up BT 

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long time listener to you. 
That is awesome dude. 

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Thank you for making that first 
call. 

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What's happening, buddy? 
Die hard Yankee fan Paul O'Neill

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Frank love Paul O'Neill look how
he played the game. 

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But I'm watching the Yankees now
and the the line of the throne 

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out there is horrible. 
I don't understand how he $300 

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million payroll and he's people 
under 200. 

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It's like 5 people under 200. 
That's disgraceful. 

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I mean, and listen, but Jerry, 
you know this Jerry, it's, it's 

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early. 
The problem though, some of the 

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things that plagued the Yankees 
like they're going to some of 

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them will resolve themselves a 
little bit here, like Grisham 

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sitting $1.55. 
Jazz is hitting 179. 

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The catchers really can't hit. 
That might not change. 

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And now the bullpen is a 
complete this might be the worst

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Yankee bullpen in 30 years. 
But I do think Chair, All right,

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you sound, you know, you sound 
pissed. 

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You sound fairly despondent like
it does. 

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Do you don't let me ask you 
this. 

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Do you think? 
And I can't even believe I'm 

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going to ask this question, but 
the way the American League is 

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very jumbled, the very obvious 
deficiencies of the Yankees. 

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Do you think there's a chance 
the Yankees are on a playoff 

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team this year? 
Like, are you there? 

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I'm there, but I think you're 
thinking it got bounced in the 

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first round again. 
Well, I mean, you know, and, and

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thanks for the call there, Jer. 
First one, thank you. 

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Salute to Jerry in Hackettstown.
Thank you very much. 

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All right, J Rod, let's keep it 
moving. 

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There you go. 
So J Rod's got a lot more 

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responsibility today. 
He's got to produce the show. 

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Good job with that. 
He's got to, you know, type in 

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the name. 
He's got to handle all the like.

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We've got a, a digital, a 
digital green room for BT 

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Unleash, which I would have to 
imagine would be a pretty fun 

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place. 
I've been in a couple of green 

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rooms in my day. 
You know what I mean? 

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A little early to get nuts here,
you know, but that was awesome. 

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That was awesome. 
That was great, 'cause you got 

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hearing it. 
My my heart's be on like, oh 

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man, oh man, that was great. 
Thank you, Jerry. 

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Nice. 
I love the enthus, Jared. 

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I love the enthusiasm, man. 
That's that's that's why you're 

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you're my guy. 
That's why you're my foxhole guy

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and that's why you're producing 
the show. 

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But he does have a lot more 
responsibility back there. 

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So if there's a bug, it's all 
good. 

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This Hey, there, there were bugs
on the fan, you know, hey, we 

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got we got Willie in Long 
Island. 

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Willie, Willie, are you there? 
Willie, Willie, can you hear me?

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Willie? 
You know, like it happens on 

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normal radio. 
So it is all good. 

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The problem with the Yankees now
Jazz is going to start hitting 

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Grisham's. 
I, I don't know if he's going to

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hit like last year, but he's not
going to hit 170 is that it's 

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just such a distorted payroll 
man. 

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And you, you look at the way 
they spend their their money and

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the way they devote their assets
to the, to the overall salary 

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structure of the team. 
It's just not congruent with 

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what what it should be. 
And it got it so easy just to go

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back to Cashman. 
It's exhausting, but it's 

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accurate because he's the one 
who's built the team. 

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I don't know how you have a $330
million payroll. 

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Really think about this 330. 
You have no lead off hitter. 

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You haven't. 
And don't tell me, Stanton, you 

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have no real real true night to 
night, physically reliable 

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production behind the great 
Aaron Judge. 

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You know, you have guys playing 
out of position. 

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Yeah. 
Backup starting. 

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You have a bullpen. 
You brought in four or five guys

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last year. 
One guy's already in the minors.

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Go. 
Val's going to be on his way 

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out. 
He stinks. 

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So far, I like Bednar. 
I'm not worried about Bednar. 

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He's going to be. 
Bednar is the kind of guy that's

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going to make you sweat a little
bit, but I trust him. 

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He's got that bulldog in them. 
It's early, so I'm not going to 

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overreact to his numbers. 
And they're not pretty. 

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You know, he's the arrays in the
four high in in the high fours. 

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But you know, I, I, I just think
that a lot of these issues with 

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the Yankees so far are going to 
be problematic throughout the 

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entire season. 
I mean, think about what just 

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transpired in this four-game 
series with the with the Angels.

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Number one is an amazing stat. 
The Yankees gave up thirteen 

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home runs in this series. 
And by the way, the relief 

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pitchers weren't the only ones 
culpable. 

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The starters tried in here as 
well. 

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So as the Yankees started the 
season and they had like a + 22 

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run differential. 
Now the giants aren't very good.

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Giants can't hit. 
They got fat on some teams that 

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really don't have many sticks 
there. 

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But the Yankees were. 
I actually thought it was going 

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to be the opposite because what 
I was saying going into the 

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season is I really thought that 
the Yankee bats and I, I didn't 

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love the lineup based on the 
things that we've talked about 

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for a while. 
But I really did think for the 

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Yankees to not have a very rough
April, possibly under 500 April,

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like the offense would have to 
carry the starters without 

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obviously Garrett Cole and 
Carlos Rodan. 

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Did you guys see like I'm like, 
I'm not in the habit of a body 

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shaming anybody. 
Who the hell am I to body shame 

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anybody? 
I mean, I got pencil legs. 

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I got, you know, I got a little 
love handle here. 

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I don't think I look bad for 52.
But I'm not some Greek God Zeus,

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that's for damn sure. 
So I'm never going to body shame

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a woman and I don't even like 
doing it for for men. 

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You know, it's just not really 
my thing. 

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But you're a pro athlete. 
So your job is to be in shape 

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and your job is to to perform. 
I am still trying to determine 

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if the photo that I saw the 
other day of Carlos Rodan and 

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Gerrit Cole side by side 
throwing in the I guess in the 

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outfield there I saw some cones.
They were doing some running, 

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whatever they would do long toss
flat ground. 

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I mean they Carlos Rodan looks 
like a guy who's lifting 3 kegs 

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into the into the frat party. 
He looked 35 lbs overweight. 

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I don't mean like 7 or 8. 
He looked noticeably heavy. 

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I mean, now, All right, You want
to tell me there was a picture 

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years ago where? 
Oh, God, what was the headline? 

445
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,480
God, what was the headline? 
There was a picture of Derek 

446
00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,160
Jeter, right? 
Something, oh God, I wish I 

447
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,680
could remember it. 
It was a long time ago and he 

448
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,520
was, I think he was coming back 
from the ankle injury and he was

449
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,440
holding a cup of coffee out. 
He was walking somewhere in 

450
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,880
Manhattan, maybe even walking 
into the stadium or from his 

451
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,880
car. 
And he looked, he looked heavy, 

452
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,520
like he had a two or three 
chins. 

453
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,640
And then you see him in the 
uniform and he looks, you know, 

454
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,360
63 streamlined one 85190, you 
know, looks like a gazelle, you 

455
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:25,800
know, looks like an athlete. 
So sometimes pictures can really

456
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,120
be unflattering. 
Honestly, the wind blows at the 

457
00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,240
wrong time, but it just shows 
every little contour of the of 

458
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800
the belly. 
But that was not a good look. 

459
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,480
Now I don't need him. 
He's not playing center field. 

460
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,080
I don't need him to run the 
bases. 

461
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,480
But I mean, you know, that, 
that, that that was alarming. 

462
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,520
Hopefully it's AI or hopefully 
it's doctored because I, I, I 

463
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,560
mean, Carlo Rodan is a big, 
strong, sturdy dude anyway. 

464
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,880
But to me, like that looked like
a guy who was coming off, he's 

465
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,400
coming up on arm injury, 
obvious. 

466
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,120
And then he hurt his hamstring a
week or so ago. 

467
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,840
But he looked like a guy who had
a lower extremity injury who 

468
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,480
couldn't do cardio and couldn't 
get on a bike or treadmill, let 

469
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,400
alone jog or Sprint or do poles 
in the outfield for a year. 

470
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,320
I mean, he really, I mean, I 
don't really know what to expect

471
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,600
from Rodon. 
What's up, Jay? 

472
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,560
No, I mean, we've, we've got a 
call. 

473
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400
We've got James from Hoboken. 
So whenever you're ready. 

474
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,480
Let's get him up. 
Let's get him up there, brother.

475
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,600
I'd like to see the name. 
It makes it very. 

476
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,360
There you go. 
We'll figure all that stuff out.

477
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:28,840
James is in Hoboken. 
Jimmy. 

478
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:30,520
BT unleashed. 
What's going on, buddy? 

479
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,600
How are you AT? 
How you doing, man? 

480
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,800
Huge fan. 
I'm good. 

481
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,440
Thank you, James. 
I appreciate that and thanks for

482
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,360
making the call. 
What's going on? 

483
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,920
Yeah, absolutely. 
Real quick on the on the on the 

484
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,400
draft with The Jets. 
I know they're targeting 

485
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,200
possibly a wide receiver with 
that second pick. 

486
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,600
How about moving up and maybe 
looking at this kid, Mansour, 

487
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,520
Delaney from LS, quarterback, 
LS, yeah, 'cause they have a lot

488
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,480
of needs, but obviously 
quarterback's one of them. 

489
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,760
You know, they do their corners 
think their safety, The Jets 

490
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,720
think. 
I mean, I mean, really, James, 

491
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,440
if you think about this outside 
of most of the offensive line, 

492
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,120
which is a good thing, that's 
the one thing about The Jets 

493
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,480
now, all these years, they're 
like they're looking for their 

494
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,200
quarterback and they're looking 
for this and looking for an 

495
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,040
hedge rusher and looking for a 
linebacker. 

496
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,080
At least this draft. 
James, The Jets don't have to. 

497
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520
I think that there's a chance 
they take a guard like an 

498
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,720
interior lineman maybe in Round 
4, but they don't have to devote

499
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,120
an early resource to that 
because their own line is of the

500
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:25,240
top ten in football. 
So. 

501
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,280
So that's at least encouraging. 
I do like D'alene. 

502
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,840
I was talking about him the 
other night on The Jets 

503
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,360
Collector with myself and Rich 
Simini and Jake Asman. 

504
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,920
I don't know if they would do 
that at 16. 

505
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,440
So that. 
Yeah. 

506
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,680
Do you let me ask you this. 
So 216, obviously second round 

507
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,200
pick as well. 
When when you look at The Jets 

508
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040
second pick here, number one, 
are you married to a name? 

509
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,120
We all know it's Bailey or 
Reese, or at least that's the 

510
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,520
belief. 
Are you married to a certain 

511
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,200
guy, too? 
What? 

512
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,520
What do you want them to do? 
Yeah, definitely one of those 

513
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,840
two guys that was wavering back 
and forth. 

514
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,640
Which one? 
Because obviously Reese has more

515
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,760
upside, you know, and Bailey 
has, you know, he has more 

516
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,240
college production. 
He does. 

517
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,120
So it depends on what you want, 
what you want. 

518
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:08,600
I think. 
I think I'd probably edge toward

519
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,800
Reese. 
OK. 

520
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,120
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

521
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,960
Because of the potential. 
I vacillate on this. 

522
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,120
And James, thanks for the call, 
man. 

523
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,200
Thank you very much. 
You got him. 

524
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,720
I was in Hoboken last night, and
I told you, Dino and Harry's the

525
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,160
best spot around. 
What a meal I was in hobo. 

526
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480
We used to live in Hoboken. 
I used to see Eli when he lived 

527
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,360
in the. 
Was that the mat? 

528
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:27,400
You can get the. 
Thank you, Jay. 

529
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,560
I think he was. 
I think Eli was in the Maxwell 

530
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,480
building. 
And we were up in the shipyards.

531
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,600
We had just gotten engaged, and 
we used to see Eli and his wife 

532
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,080
pushing the stroller all the 
time. 

533
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,800
We used to go to the Hudson 
Tavern. 

534
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,480
My at that point, my fiance and 
I, I sit outside and Eli would, 

535
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,960
we probably saw him 7-8 times 
pushing the stroller. 

536
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,680
What is such a good guy? 
I, I don't want to bother him, 

537
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,080
but you know, I said hi a few 
times, but just a sweetheart of 

538
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,040
a dude. 
Love. 

539
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,640
I absolutely love hope and 
Hoboken. 

540
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,760
We had a great time there. 
Listen, I, I, I think that 

541
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,320
there's, this is probably going 
to sound weird because I'm 

542
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,760
probably going to hit you with 
five scenarios here, but I 

543
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,080
really do think there's so many 
different things that Jets can 

544
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,120
do as I prioritize now, I do 
think that there's a really good

545
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,960
chance they trade off of 16, 
whether it's up or back, I don't

546
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,480
know. 
I think Dallas at 12 and 20 is a

547
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,560
player. 
I think the Arizona Cardinals 

548
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,720
can make a trade. 
You know, I saw some, you know, 

549
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,640
fairly, you know, reputable 
people put some mocks out where 

550
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,080
they've got the Cardinals make 
it a trade. 

551
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,440
I don't know if it was their 
third pick, but another trade 

552
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,760
with Miami back into the first 
round, maybe move in, get Ty 

553
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,200
Simpson, maybe get their 
quarterback. 

554
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720
Jets aren't touching Ty Simpson.
Not going to happen. 

555
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,440
Not that I would go crazy if if 
it did, but there is nothing 

556
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,720
unless they are just the most 
suddenly the most covert 

557
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720
operation and there's no leagues
and there aren't any leagues, 

558
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,840
which actually is a good sign 
that The Jets building is 

559
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,360
getting a little healthy 
finally, Jets aren't taking Ty 

560
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,480
Simpson. 
So I would like to see them 

561
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,960
trade off of 2 and scoot down a 
couple of spots. 

562
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,360
But we all know you got to have 
somebody to dance with. 

563
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,840
I'm I could I've been saying for
three weeks, trade down, trade 

564
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,040
down, trade down, trade out of 
two and get Sonny Styles trade 

565
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720
out of two and get Caleb Downs 
trade out of two. 

566
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,480
And you know, maybe get Bailey 
or or Ruben Bain if you want 

567
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,120
that edge rusher from Miami, 
short arms and all. 

568
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,240
I as much as I want them to 
trade out of two, I don't think 

569
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,600
it's really as plausible as I 
make it just because the way 

570
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,040
that I think the draft is going 
to go. 

571
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,760
I think the draft really starts 
at 3 now. 

572
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Obviously we'll see who The Jets
take. 

573
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080
And it does seem like it's going
to be Bailey or Reece. 

574
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,040
They canceled the meeting with 
Bailey, one of the 30 visits. 

575
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:34,680
And you listen, this is basic 
stuff. 

576
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,320
Everybody's saying this, but it 
means they either love them and 

577
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,400
they're taking them or they're 
sold on Reece and they're not 

578
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,280
taking Bailey. 
Why waste time? 

579
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,320
But I would I would throw this 
in, and I said this on The Jets 

580
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,120
collective show the other night,
like at least play the game a 

581
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,800
little bit longer. 
Now, if it was a logistical 

582
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200
thing and like Bailey couldn't 
make it or The Jets had to do 

583
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,240
some other stuff, All right, do 
what you got to do. 

584
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,080
You know how you have to run 
your war room. 

585
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:03,000
But to me, the more you play the
game and the more you present a 

586
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,240
lack of commitment to a certain 
player that that could that 

587
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,760
could inspire a team that we're 
not even thinking about right 

588
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,520
now. 
Maybe the Saints or the Chiefs 

589
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,800
at 9 or whatever it might be. 
The Commanders have been linked 

590
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280
to The Jets. 
Maybe they swap 16 and seven. 

591
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000
And then obviously Washington, 
we get more Jets scoot in. 

592
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,360
They take one of the receivers. 
I mean, listen, guys, and I 

593
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,560
think most people have a Tyson. 
If that's the case, if they do 

594
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,960
do, if they do that at #7 if The
Jets walk away with, with Bailey

595
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,960
or Reese and who they perceive 
to be the top receiver, I mean, 

596
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480
it, it's going to be hard to 
criticize it at least on draft 

597
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,200
night. 
Now, it's ultimately got to come

598
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720
to fruition and it's got to work
itself out. 

599
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,320
But I, I really think, I think, 
and it started to change a 

600
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,280
little bit, but I thought for a 
long time that the first 

601
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,560
scenario would be at 2 again, 
just for the sake of this 

602
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,680
conference. 
No trades, right? 

603
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,200
2 defense, 16 defense. 
Then the other situation would 

604
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,640
be absolutely, there's no way 
they're not taking defense at 2.

605
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,640
So defensive 2 and then receiver
at 16. 

606
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,240
The other thing that you can do,
I would love to see now Samini 

607
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,000
said the other night that he 
thinks it would take maybe 3 or 

608
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,800
4 spots if The Jets get whomever
they covered, covered more 

609
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,320
defensive numbers on defensive 
#2 and they make a move a few 

610
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,360
slots up to get Sadiq, the tight
end from Oregon. 

611
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,760
I mean, now you start to cook 
because you know eventually The 

612
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,640
Jets will find their their 
quarterback, whenever that is. 

613
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,600
And to me, if you go into, you 
know, next year and Sadiq is 

614
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,200
what everybody thinks he's going
to be, and you've got, you know,

615
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,480
basically a wide receiver 
playing tight end who's a 

616
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,000
matchup nightmare for anybody. 
Well, suddenly The Jets offense 

617
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,200
with a really good offensive 
line with Breeze Hall, Brandon 

618
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Allen back, Garrett Wilson and 
Mason Taylor as a tight end 2 at

619
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,720
that point and Rucker can come 
in and block. 

620
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240
Obviously they gave him an 
extension, a small one, but I 

621
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,040
like Ruckerd and then a tight 
end like Sadiq. 

622
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Well, now you got to pick some 
poisons and now Garrett Wilson's

623
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400
going to be open a lot. 
And if he and not to mention, 

624
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,920
you know, Wilson, you know, AD 
like they there was the receiver

625
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,720
room is thin, but their vertical
game can change fast if they 

626
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,280
wind up getting somebody like 
Sadiq. 

627
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,680
The other thing that you could 
do and you you absolutely could 

628
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200
go corner at #16 if you stayed 
there. 

629
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,960
So I'm pumped up and and I'm 
excited and I'm always hopeful 

630
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,920
for The Jets. 
You guys know that the whole 

631
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640
unkillable thing on the fan, 
you're not going to kill us. 

632
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Aaron Rodgers went down. 
He didn't kill us last night. 

633
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,000
We were unkillable. 
Let's say it's the mantra. 

634
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,400
It's the mantra that I that I 
adopted a long time ago because 

635
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,000
I I just can't walk around like 
a loser. 

636
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Just stop walking around work 
like a loser. 

637
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,400
What a nut job. 
That that wasn't, that was 

638
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,320
insanity. 
That that whatever you want to 

639
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,040
call that 2 minute explosion out
of body, not even really knowing

640
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,520
what I said. 
Crazy nut job delivery. 

641
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
But you know, I finally watched 
it because we played it. 

642
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320
I had never listened to the 
whole thing in its entirety. 

643
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,600
I saw a lot of clips and I was 
like, God, jeez, the hood, you 

644
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,120
standing there, you're punching 
the desk. 

645
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,280
What are you doing, man? 
I mean, look at what this team 

646
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,160
is doing to you. 
I mean, you're at that .51 year 

647
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,480
old out of your mind, crazy 
person because The Jets. 

648
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,360
So I am. 
If you're new to the show. 

649
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,600
I think I'm a unique Jet fan. 
I think my Jet fandom is unique 

650
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,040
because I'm a Yankee fan. 
And while I'm a very, I think 

651
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,440
I'm a very realistic Yankee fan.
Like right now this team ain't 

652
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,160
winning anything and I didn't 
think that they were going to 

653
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,520
win last year either. 
But the Yankee winning 

654
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,480
throughout my lifetime has made 
me less miserable as I attack my

655
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,840
football team. 
So I'm always hopeful and I 

656
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,880
always go with the seasons 
optimistically. 

657
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,600
I try, I skew that. 
I don't even try to. 

658
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,880
I just, it's like my default. 
I naturally skew that way. 

659
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440
And then once they give me 
evidence to the contrary, I 

660
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,720
become an unhinged, deranged 
lunatic. 

661
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,960
And I'll bash and bury The Jets 
as aggressively as anybody. 

662
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,600
But I really do believe that my 
hope for this franchise is 

663
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,880
finally rooted in a little bit 
of reality. 

664
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120
Because I think The Jets have 
their general manager. 

665
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,040
I really, really believe in Muji
now, like, like Douglas, like 

666
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,320
Joe, who drafted a lot of good 
players, many of whom are God at

667
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,160
this point. 
But I mean, that man brought in 

668
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
boatloads of talent. 
He just never found this 

669
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440
quarterback. 
Ultimately, Mooji is going to 

670
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,640
have to find this quarterback. 
But whether it's, you know, 

671
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,400
inside the margins, those little
back of the roster transactions 

672
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,240
during the season, you know, 
other team scraps, taxi players,

673
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,760
finding guys who can kick you, 
who can return kicks and in the 

674
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,000
punt game. 
Jets had the best special teams 

675
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,040
unit a year ago. 
Like it was really the only good

676
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,120
thing truly that they did. 
And they did cut the penalties 

677
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,240
back a little bit. 
But Aaron Glenn to me is a very 

678
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760
separate entity. 
I don't believe he's tied to 

679
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Mooji. 
I do believe that they are 

680
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,600
principled in the same things. 
There's been a lot of talk like,

681
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,920
and this really goes to Bailey 
or The Jets going to do 

682
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,440
something in the draft to help 
there and they like increase the

683
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
chances to win now because the 
pressure's on. 

684
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,400
They got to win. 
Glenn's coming off an awful 

685
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,400
season and if they're one in 
six, he might get fired and 

686
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,480
probably will get fired during 
the season and certainly at the 

687
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,080
end of the season. 
I think Muji is several, you 

688
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,760
know, floors not in the 
penthouse, but, you know, right 

689
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,040
now you got Aaron Glenn in the 
outhouse, and at least Muji's in

690
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,880
a pretty decent apartment. 
Yeah, it's furnished. 

691
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,320
He's got running water. 
Like, I think it's different, 

692
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,560
but I think Muji is really good.
I do. 

693
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,200
What's up there, Jay? 
We got John from Fort Hood. 

694
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Texas with a oh, I'm Texas in 
the house about a little G men 

695
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,800
stuff. 
I believe John used to call the 

696
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,440
fan quite a bit. 
Can we get the name up there and

697
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,880
make it official as we deal? 
Yeah, you go look at J Rod all 

698
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,800
over Johnny's in Fort Hood, TX. 
I was just in Texas throwing out

699
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720
the first pitch for the Rangers 
on Easter Sunday. 

700
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,520
It was not a strike, but the 
Velo is good. 

701
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,520
John, what's happening, buddy? 
Welcome to UNLEASH. 

702
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,000
How you doing? 
Thanks for making the call. 

703
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Hey, what's going on, BT? 
Big fan over. 

704
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,120
Here. 
Thank you buddy. 

705
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
What's you used to call the fan 
a lot, didn't you? 

706
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,960
Is this that? 
No, I think you got me mistaken 

707
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,000
for somebody else. 
My bad, I'm all good. 

708
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,360
We got a new fan here. 
What's up dude? 

709
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Not much. 
I did listen to you and Sal 

710
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080
every day on The Fan and you 
know, sad to see you guys go, 

711
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,720
but I'd love to see what you're 
doing here on YouTube. 

712
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,200
I appreciate that, man. 
Thank you. 

713
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,080
What's happening? 
No problem, no problem. 

714
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,600
So my question is, so if you're 
the Giants, right, they got 

715
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,400
decks, they got decks under 
contract for another two years. 

716
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,160
Yep. 
You don't want to give them away

717
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,160
for peanuts, but you also don't 
want him moping around and 

718
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,760
bringing negativity to the 
locker room. 

719
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,040
Yep. 
So what do you do? 

720
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,160
I'm trading him. 
He's out. 

721
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,920
I said that, yes, I don't know 
if you called the show yet and I

722
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,520
want, I want your opinion as 
well, but that's my honest 

723
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880
answer. 
That's what I would do and 

724
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,200
that's what I believe is going 
to happen. 

725
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,720
And and I said this during the 
show yesterday. 

726
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,680
If you guys missed it, go check 
out the channel. 

727
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,920
And then after the show, some 
more news came out where 

728
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,680
basically seems like it's a done
deal as long as the Giants could

729
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,680
get what they're asking. 
Like you're not going to give 

730
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,160
him away for $0.60 on the 
dollar. 

731
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,520
He's too good. 
Even though he's coming off a 

732
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,280
bum year, out of shape, not a 
lot of production, he's still 

733
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,400
when he's right, he's one of the
three best interior or 4 best 

734
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,080
interior defensive line of the 
football. 

735
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,560
And when he's really right, he's
one or two. 

736
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Like we all know that Dexter 
Lawrence is that guy. 

737
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,560
He is not getting a new contract
for the Giants. 

738
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,880
You can take that one to the 
bank. 

739
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Now it seems like he doesn't 
even want one, which tells me he

740
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,159
is. 
He is mentally checked out. 

741
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,800
And because he seemed physically
checked out last year, now 

742
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,520
you've got the mental aspect. 
He's going to be an ex Giant. 

743
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,600
That's what's going to happen. 
What do you think, John? 

744
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,679
I hear you, BT but I just, I 
can't see them giving them away 

745
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,239
for peanuts. 
I feel like unless they can get 

746
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,639
a deep, you know, at least a 
first round draft pick in there,

747
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,040
maybe a third or something like 
that. 

748
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,320
I'm, I'm not, I'm not doing the 
trade. 

749
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,360
And if we can't get a deal like 
that, he's got two years left on

750
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,040
his deal. 
He's going to suck it up and and

751
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,880
play because he's not going to 
sit out for two years. 

752
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,520
No, he's definitely not. 
I mean, now we get into the the 

753
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,040
age 30 and when you're a big man
like that being even though of 

754
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,640
course he could train, but being
inactive and not being in a 

755
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,800
team's building for two years, 
he might come back 400 lbs. 

756
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,640
I mean, so all right, so John I 
that the problem is there's a 

757
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560
couple things here. 
Number one, does he let let's, 

758
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,760
let's go checkpoint by 
checkpoint #1 do you believe 

759
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,520
that he truly wants out? 
Yes or no? 

760
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,440
I think he wants to get paid 
more than anything. 

761
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,960
I think that's his number one 
priority. 

762
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,800
OK, I I bet that's I would agree
with that. 

763
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,000
But because I think he he knows 
he's not, he's not feeling that 

764
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,840
love from the giants. 
I think the the first pursuit, 

765
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,240
which is always monetary legion,
we got to we got to got to put 

766
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,360
food on the table, man. 
I get it's all about the money. 

767
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,320
But now that he feels that the 
giants are not going to do what 

768
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,200
he wants now I believe he wants 
no part of them now. 

769
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,000
I believe he's angry. 
I think the first declaration, 

770
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,800
the first trade request was him 
playing the business game. 

771
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,680
I think what we saw yesterday 
was him saying I'm done with 

772
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,720
being a New York Giants. 
So that that's my opinion. 

773
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:06,840
I got yours. 
Number one, that's the Dexter 

774
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,200
angle #2 Do you believe that the
Giants are now actively either 

775
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,200
looking to or will be willing to
trade him, Yes or no? 

776
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,240
I believe so. 
Yes, me too. 

777
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,960
That is easy to interpret. 
We're on the same page there, 

778
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,480
number 3, and this is really 
what's going to either determine

779
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,440
if he's gone or not. 
What's the lowest amount of 

780
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,720
draft capital that you would 
take in return? 

781
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,120
There has to be a first in there
somewhere. 

782
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,720
No matter, no matter how you 
slice it. 

783
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,400
I can't. 
I can't trade them for 1/3 and 

784
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,320
1/5 and something. 
I can't do it. 

785
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Yeah. 
No, I'm with you on that. 

786
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,720
Low first. 
There has to be a first in there

787
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:43,560
somewhere. 
OK. 

788
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,760
Well, I think there, I think 
there's 5050 that you get a 

789
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,440
first round. 
Now he's on back into the you're

790
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,480
not getting inside the top 16 or
like, OK, so let's at least get 

791
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,080
some separation first part of 
the first round back half. 

792
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,880
I think there's a good chance or
at least maybe not good. 

793
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,240
I think there's a chance that 
somebody what it's all said and 

794
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:05,520
done would acquiesce. 
And whether it's 182023 

795
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200
somewhere in that vicinity, I 
believe that that would happen. 

796
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
But if that doesn't happen, 
would you take two twos? 

797
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,800
Because I would. 
Two tubes? 

798
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Yep. 
Yeah, I might have to take that 

799
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,240
deal. 
Yeah, All right, man. 

800
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,320
We're on the same page. 
By the way, you are you in the 

801
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,000
military, John. 
I am. 

802
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,880
God bless you brother. 
Awesome, I. 

803
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,920
Appreciate that. 
I we appreciate your service. 

804
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Thanks for making the call. 
Salute to John Fort Hood salute 

805
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,480
to everybody out there in Fort 
Hood. 

806
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040
So look what do we have 3 or 4 
calls we already? 

807
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,800
We got another great state of 
Texas. 

808
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Is already John. 
Then we got Bob. 

809
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,360
Who do you got? 
From Bob this we got Bobby. 

810
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,600
From Oh yeah, Bobby. 
Yeah, a little in New York. 

811
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,040
I live in New Jersey. 
Little Texas. 

812
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,120
Bobby is up next on on leash. 
Bobby, what's going on on up in 

813
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,080
Vermont? 
What's up dude? 

814
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,920
I get excited when I call it to 
you. 

815
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000
You're the best, I think. 
And you remember. 

816
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080
That WN didn't think so, but I I
appreciate that you. 

817
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Did oh I know one person that 
did not like me from WFRN, the 

818
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:10,720
guy who was bald in the morning 
with the Geo and boomer. 

819
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,400
You know him he did not like. 
Of course. 

820
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Yeah. 
Boomer's the best Jerry. 

821
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,840
That's about Jerry's. 
I love Jerry. 

822
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,040
Now who is the guy in the back, 
Al Dukes, who puts you on? 

823
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,800
Oh, oh, Al, the producer. 
Oh, my God. 

824
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,040
No, no, yeah, I don't think he 
doesn't. 

825
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,000
He doesn't like phone calls, so 
he doesn't like what's going on,

826
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
man, that's what. 
He's doing his job, He's got to 

827
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,160
do his job. 
He's a good producer. 

828
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,400
I I got you, I got you. 
He just doesn't like bobbing for

829
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,160
a month, but I do. 
So that's good news for Bobby 

830
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,560
and Vermont. 
What's on your mind, buddy? 

831
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,600
Let's get to it. 
What do you got? 

832
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,360
Do you think the Giants could 
get love as a running back? 

833
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440
Get a get a, I'm sorry, a 
running back. 

834
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Love, Jeremiah. 
Love. 

835
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,760
Yeah. 
Love. 

836
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,880
Yeah. 
Love. 

837
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Yeah. 
I got you As what? 

838
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,360
I just want to make sure I heard
you properly. 

839
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Thank you for the call, Bobby. 
Thank you very much. 

840
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,320
That's that's a confounding one 
right there. 

841
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,800
That is, I don't think the 
giants have taken him. 

842
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,840
I know they're I know they're 
attached to him a little bit. 

843
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,600
I think the giants, the initial 
thought and it's still pretty 

844
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
strong for me. 
I've always thought Caleb Downs 

845
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,240
for the giants. 
You know, horribaugh was raving 

846
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,320
about him on Mike Frances 
podcast, right? 

847
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,960
And he said it somewhere else. 
You know, he loves those 

848
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,400
safeties that could flip fields.
He's always had one that can 

849
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080
make plays there. 
He knows the importance there. 

850
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,440
I also do think that there's a 
chance the Giants go offensive 

851
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,120
line, you know, and I talked 
about The Jets. 

852
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,440
I don't think they're taking a 
receiver. 

853
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,560
One thing like you look at a 
couple of early thoughts about 

854
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,520
like what the Giants could do 
with the draft here. 

855
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,680
And I'm going back like a month 
or two ago and it really started

856
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,280
with downs and then Sonny Styles
worked out and and his tape is 

857
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,760
really good as well. 
But Sonny Styles crushed the 

858
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,200
combine. 
So you started hearing some 

859
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,560
Sonny Styles from Ohio State. 
You heard a few people say, and 

860
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,320
this I just vehemently disagree.
This to me makes no sense. 

861
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,920
I've heard some people say, 
well, Malik neighbors, you know,

862
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160
it's not going to be Malik 
neighbors early in the season. 

863
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,200
So draft a wide receiver. 
No, you, you got to you got to 

864
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,760
think and there's some really 
good ones. 

865
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,000
You got to think big picture. 
You're not taking a you're not 

866
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,840
taking a receiver because Malik 
neighbors will be rusty and not 

867
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,720
fully back to being Malik 
neighbors for the first month of

868
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,000
the season. 
Giants got to think big picture.

869
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,400
There's no pressure on the 
Giants. 

870
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,120
You know, Babel's gone chains 
pretty much a yes man at this 

871
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,800
point. 
No, no disrespect, but does 

872
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,720
anybody really think Joe Shane's
got any sort of say on what the 

873
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,680
Giants do on draft night? 
I mean, let's just go, let's 

874
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,240
transport ourselves into the 
Giants draft room. 

875
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,120
All right, Six days from now and
John Horribaugh wants Caleb 

876
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,520
Downs or Fanu, say the offensive
lineman from Utah just throwing 

877
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,880
names out or, you know, he 
thinks they could trade down and

878
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,160
still get maybe a styles, maybe 
a Downs, maybe another old 

879
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,160
lineman, maybe even a corner, 
though I don't think that 

880
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,320
they'll go corner. 
I don't think. 

881
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:09,840
I think The Jets are more 
inclined to go corner early than

882
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,840
the Giants, to be fair. 
But any disagreement? 

883
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Now, I'm not saying they're 
going to be yelling at each 

884
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,360
other here, but Joe Shane's not 
going to get his way. 

885
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:23,320
He's not, you know, and the 
first little personal flare up 

886
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,240
or real true disagreement, 
whether it's about decks, 

887
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,080
whether it's about somebody to 
draft, It seems like it was 

888
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,920
pretty smooth and free agency so
far. 

889
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,200
You know, then eventually Joe 
Shane's going to be gone and 

890
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,520
John Horbaugh is going to bring 
in one of his own John Horbaugh 

891
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,480
show. 
He got a boatload of cash. 

892
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,040
He's got a million years behind 
it. 

893
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,160
He's a Super Bowl winning coach.
The Giants are a disaster. 

894
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,440
He's got world, you know, 
worldwide, sure, but league wide

895
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,240
respect, it's whatever he wants,
he's going to get because Mara 

896
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,160
is going to give him because 
John Mara is smart enough, 

897
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,640
unlike Woody, who was an awful 
owner. 

898
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,520
And not that John Mara has been 
a very good owner to the last 

899
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920
couple of years, starting with 
Coughlin walking off the stage 

900
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,400
and that icy relationship and 
some other stuff. 

901
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,560
I don't need to, you know, re 
litigate the entire, you know, 

902
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,800
mess the Giants have been. 
We all know what it's been. 

903
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,880
But John Mara's history is 1. 
And and of course, his dad, the 

904
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,640
great Mara family, Wellington is
one of, you know, rich, steep 

905
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,480
winning, you know, not only 
winning, but consistency and 

906
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,160
stability and like, without 
drama, you know, the Odell 

907
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Beckham stuff at the end with 
Coughlin and, you know, just 

908
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,960
recycling coaches. 
And are Gino's going to start 

909
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,880
for Eli? 
He's just wow. 

910
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,600
So I do think that John Mara is 
smart enough to, even though he 

911
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,120
knows football, he's a football 
man. 

912
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,080
You know, he's smart enough to 
know. 

913
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,320
All right, I got the guy in here
that I just gave all those terms

914
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,200
to. 
He's got the hammer. 

915
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,080
It's his show. 
And I'm laying out, you know, 

916
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,400
like, the only thing that you 
will have to run by me is how 

917
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,920
much money we're willing to 
spend. 

918
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,600
And the Giants have never been 
cheap. 

919
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,200
So I think the Giants are in a 
very healthy situation, number 

920
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,880
one at 5. 
I think they could trade back 

921
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,440
because I think they'll be 
enticement from teams behind. 

922
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Like, listen, I think the Saints
are going defense. 

923
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,160
I don't really know what the I 
think the commanders are almost 

924
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,480
a lock to make a trade at 7:00. 
But I think the Saints are going

925
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,360
D and I think the chiefs based 
on, you know, some of their 

926
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,400
older stars and you know, 
Mahomes, not that he's old, but 

927
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,360
he's coming off a big injury. 
There's only a finite window to 

928
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,520
win so many champions. 
Andy Reid's not young. 

929
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,280
I, I, I could see some of those 
teams like in that seven through

930
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,240
10 ish window, if they love 
downs and the giants love downs 

931
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:41,080
or styles or, or somebody else, 
I could see the giants scooting 

932
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,840
back a few slots, getting some 
more capital and still, you 

933
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,040
know, getting a massive pick. 
So I, I think the giants are a 

934
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,320
good book. 
The giants feel healthy. 

935
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,680
You know, I think they're 
getting back to their stable 

936
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,480
ways, which is, which is a great
thing, which is a really good 

937
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,280
thing. 
J Rod now J Rod, did you see 

938
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,120
what's up? 
Sorry, we're dealing with some 

939
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,240
with some stuff in the 
backstage. 

940
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,240
Trying to just figure out some 
kinks. 

941
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Oh. 
Yeah, no, we're good. 

942
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,920
We're good. 
It's just like a, it's just like

943
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,200
a mic thing. 
Oh, OK, yeah, but it's still 

944
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,440
working, right? 
We're still showing we're no. 

945
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,480
We're good. 
We're good. 

946
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,040
All right. 
We're about to have Brian up in 

947
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,520
just a second. 
OK, you. 

948
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,720
Yep, you just put it up on the 
screen when he's ready to roll. 

949
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,720
Boy, how good is it this now, 
not from a Yankee perspective, 

950
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,600
but if you love baseball and you
just love greatness, how could 

951
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,760
you not be so happy for Mike 
Trout? 

952
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,360
I'm of this Mike Trout kick 
because my son played in 

953
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,120
Melville. 
I told you last weekend, 

954
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,360
Melville, New Jersey on Mike 
Trout's, you know little at the 

955
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,720
Little League facility that Mike
Trout must have hit 900 

956
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:50,800
gazillion home runs and broke 
37,000 windshields in the 

957
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,120
parking lot. 
My goodness. 

958
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,880
So, I mean, I've always loved 
Mike Trout, man. 

959
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,920
He's such a low maintenance 
superstar who just has been 

960
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,000
decimated with injuries and you 
know it. 

961
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,880
It is easy. 
It is easy to forget how, 

962
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,160
depending upon how old you are, 
just how transcendently great he

963
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,200
really was. 
Like, let me just hit you with a

964
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,600
couple of we all know he's got 
the three MVPS, right? 

965
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,880
So he burst on the scene as a 
young kid with a football body 

966
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,360
and a football mentality, thick 
thighs, thick neck. 

967
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Like he looks like a linebacker.
You remember when they would 

968
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,840
show like in the 8, Like I 
remember when I first started 

969
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,680
watching college football in the
80s and the 90s, they would have

970
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,280
like that And they, well, they 
still do it, but I just, I think

971
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040
it just looked different back 
then because it did with the 

972
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520
graphics and and the, you know, 
evolution of TV. 

973
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,920
But they would have like, say 
the linebackers, right, 

974
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Depending upon if you go with 
three or four and they're like 

975
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,000
Oklahoma, right, you'd see like 
3 linebackers, 4 linebackers and

976
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000
like Bosworth would have that 
neck thing, you know, like that 

977
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,200
little white neck thing. 
Now they have other stuff like 

978
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,360
they've got the almost like a 
roll up, but that old school 

979
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,840
neck thing. 
I don't know really what the 

980
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,120
neck collar if you played 
football like to me like that's,

981
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,280
I look at my Trout, I see old 
school football linebacker neck 

982
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,840
collar. 
And probably also a dude who had

983
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,280
27 touchdowns and ran for 1900 
yards in high school as a 

984
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,160
running back that nobody wanted 
to or could tackle or catch 

985
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,080
because he's got blinding speed.
So he he just always projected 

986
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,920
this quiet football intensity. 
He's got a football body, but 

987
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,760
man, he has been sidetracked 
with the injuries. 

988
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,560
But when he started out rookie 
of the year, that's obviously a 

989
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,600
lot. 3 Mbps, right? 
9 Silver Sluggers and he hasn't 

990
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,240
really had one in a while. 11 
All Stars. 

991
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,600
But the most amazing thing about
Mike Trout, you know, and, and 

992
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,720
Judge has a couple of 2nd place 
finishes as well. 

993
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,160
Mike Trout has four second place
MVP finishes. 4 right? 

994
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,360
And he's got, he also has a 
fourth and a fifth place finish.

995
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,000
And then I was just, you know, 
and I knew most of the numbers. 

996
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,520
But because he was playing the 
Yankees and because he had five 

997
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,880
home runs and because he went 
nuts and because he looks like 

998
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,840
he's 27 all of a sudden instead 
of 34 or 33, he had a five year 

999
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,200
run consecutively where he, he 
led Major League Baseball in OPS

1000
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,400
plus and he had five other years
where he led Major League 

1001
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,320
Baseball in WAR. 
Now I don't, I kind of wish the 

1002
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,760
Angels were awful #1 the Yankees
would have gotten a few more 

1003
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,720
wins here. 
But like, if they mess around 

1004
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,440
and they're competitive, they're
not going to trade Mike Trout. 

1005
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,760
But man, I mean, if you could 
just take Mike Trout and dump 

1006
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,840
him in the middle of the Bronx, 
right? 

1007
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,120
And then really what you could 
do is you could keep Mike in 

1008
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:37,720
center and kick Grisham to left 
and put Bellinger at first base 

1009
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:40,160
and have Ben Rice DH and catch a
little bit with wells. 

1010
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,800
I mean, now you now you're 
talking when Gerrit Cole and 

1011
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Rodan come back and Schlittler 
and Max free Max free labored. 

1012
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,360
Yesterday I was watching the 
game and I heard Kay say Michael

1013
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,520
say that at at this point, the 
game 9 of of the only hit 9 of 

1014
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,640
22 or 9 of 23 first pitch 
strike. 

1015
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,320
So and and O'Neill was saying he
didn't really have a feel for 

1016
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,320
any pitch. 
So he kept them in the game. 

1017
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,440
I mean, obviously, because 
that's what great pitchers do 

1018
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,680
when you don't have your race 
stuff, even if you're going out 

1019
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,040
there B minus, you'll find a way
to figure stuff out, get some 

1020
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,160
outs and give yourself A-Team, 
give your team a chance to kick 

1021
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,520
their way to a win. 
So you got to respect that. 

1022
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,440
But you know, watching the 
Angels, I'm like, all right, 

1023
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,480
they got a couple of players and
all right, they're not going to 

1024
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,120
be terrible. 
But if they do morph back into 

1025
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,760
being terrible like they've been
for years now, I mean, you have,

1026
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,240
and not just the Yankees, but 
you have to approach the Angels 

1027
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:32,480
about trading for Mike Trout. 
Now he's got a lot of a lot of 

1028
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,520
years to go and a lot of money, 
$37,000,000 a year. 

1029
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,880
So he's got all this year 
obviously, and he's got 272829 

1030
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,760
and 30 at $37,000,000 a year. 
Now, is that palatable for the 

1031
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,760
Yankees financially? 
I mean, it should be. 

1032
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Would it be? 
Probably not. 

1033
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,040
But think about all that plagues
the Yankees offense right now. 

1034
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Think about that. 
And then think about how much it

1035
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,160
changes if you've got #1 he's a 
righty, which the Yankees 

1036
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,480
desperately need for balance, 
OK? 

1037
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,160
And he is a stud, which the 
Yankees desperately need to 

1038
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,240
eventually, you know, maybe be 
able to match the Dodgers, who 

1039
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,000
are on their own planet so far. 
Like, the Dodgers are the only 

1040
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,160
team that's distinguished 
themselves as an awesome team so

1041
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,760
far. 
Everybody else is, you know, 11 

1042
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,320
and 912 and 10, you know, into 
outside of the Rockies and like,

1043
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,600
and the Mets and one other team,
like the winning percentage of 

1044
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,960
like 3335% is a lot of 500 
teams. 

1045
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,920
So it's early. 
I don't know that the Angels 

1046
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,680
will be hanging around for a 
wild card in two or three 

1047
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,560
months. 
But if they're not, I mean, you 

1048
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,200
got to kick that door down and 
and you've got to entice them 

1049
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,080
with, you know, even if it's one
of these young flamethrowers 

1050
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,880
that you don't want to give up, 
you're not going to give up 

1051
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Lombard at this point. 
But who looks awesome? 

1052
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,560
Take whatever else you want 
because as I've said and many 

1053
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,600
have said, they owe Aaron Judge.
They owe Aaron Judge a massive 

1054
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,080
swing. 
And just think about the the 

1055
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,240
lineup and the defensive 
alignment, Judge and right grout

1056
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,920
and center, Grisham and left. 
Or you can even go you go 

1057
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Bellinger, Trout, Judge and then
you keep Rice at first. 

1058
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,680
Or if you want to have a great 
defensive first baseman instead 

1059
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480
of somebody who's learning the 
game, who I think will be he's 

1060
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,480
been competent so far. 
It's been OK. 

1061
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,880
And he's a hell of a hitter. 
But you go belly at first base, 

1062
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:25,120
Judge, Trout, Grisham, you know,
And then if it's just man, I 

1063
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,480
mean, that's probably wishful 
thinking. 

1064
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,880
I know probably one of these 
delusional thoughts. 

1065
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,480
Find a way to get Mike Trout. 
Anybody can say that, but very 

1066
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,120
rare that singularly one person 
would change so much about the 

1067
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,160
way we perceive A-Team. 
Think about that lineup and 

1068
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,920
think about that fear factor. 
You got to navigate a healthy 

1069
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,000
Judge and a healthy Trout and 
then those other, obviously Rice

1070
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,680
and obviously Bellinger. 
It's different. 

1071
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,720
Look, all right, Jay, what do 
you got coal wise buddy? 

1072
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,480
Get them up. 
All right. 

1073
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,360
So I think this guy's 
experiencing difficulty, so 

1074
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,960
we're probably just going to 
shift to the next caller. 

1075
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:03,480
So give me just a second. 
OK, OK. 

1076
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,800
All good. 
By the way, I see the chats are 

1077
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,320
still flowing here. 
That's really nice. 

1078
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,320
You know what? 
You're right. 

1079
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,920
Virtual discourse put that up. 
The Padres are also hot. 

1080
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Yeah, and the Padres started 
very, very poorly. 

1081
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,280
You can get that up there, Jay. 
It's all good. 

1082
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,040
Which? 
One's the virtual. 

1083
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Discourse. 
One I just read it. 

1084
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,800
I yeah, that's OK. 
Yeah, they're red hot. 

1085
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,480
I thought you had a super chat 
up there. 

1086
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,480
There you go at Christa, Chris 
Christmasis. 

1087
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,920
That's a tough one to say, 
Chris. 

1088
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,800
Mitt, sis one O 2. 
Thank you, Chris. 

1089
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,360
Take a look at the Mets lineup. 
Big changes. 

1090
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,720
Really big. 
What? 

1091
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,520
What is the Mets? 
So it's out already. 

1092
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,240
Hold on. 
Wait. 

1093
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,760
Yeah, they're playing the 
Cubbies here. 

1094
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,160
Let me get a look at this Mets 
lineup and do this here. 

1095
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,240
Oh, man. 
What do we got? 

1096
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:52,800
What do we got? 
Yeah, I mean, the Mets better 

1097
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,920
start changing things up. 
I mean, they've been rolling out

1098
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,080
that the Mets. 
Wow. 

1099
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,000
It is. 
It is going to be a thin, thin 

1100
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,480
rope that is fraying here for 
Mendoza. 

1101
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,440
If they don't get this thing 
fixed because you're not going 

1102
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,360
to get rid of Stearns in the 
middle of the season like that 

1103
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,440
might be, you know, something 
that they do, obviously in the 

1104
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,560
offseason, which I don't even 
think that they would do. 

1105
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,480
Here it is, 7 minutes ago. 
Wow. 

1106
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,880
OK. 
Very different. 

1107
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,400
You got Benj leading off. 
Wow. 

1108
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,400
Yeah. 
There's a different one, Benj, 

1109
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,240
one. 
Bouchette, 2. 

1110
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Lindoor, Louise Robert 4 Alvarez
up to the five spot. 

1111
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Melendez just called up Simeon 7
Beatty eight, who does not have 

1112
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,280
a walk yet. 
Brett Beatty is the only player 

1113
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,760
and I like Brett Beatty, but I 
don't like what he's doing. 

1114
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,360
So far. 
Brett Beatty is the only player 

1115
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,880
in Major League Baseball with 
the, like, the requisite amount 

1116
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,080
of A bats who has not drawn a 
walk. 

1117
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,200
I mean, that's not 400 bats, 
but, you know, you've got about 

1118
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,920
7065 no walk. 
So you got Benj Bichette Lindor,

1119
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Robert Alvarez, Melendez, Simeon
Beatty, Taylor Sanga on the 

1120
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,400
mound, You know, Kodai Sanga, 
not exactly the dude you want up

1121
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,080
there to stop the bleeding. 
Now, he does have high end 

1122
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,600
stuff, as we know. 
So maybe this is one of those 

1123
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,840
days where, you know, that that 
ghost pitch is just dropping to 

1124
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,200
the dirt and killing worms and 
guys are banging it into the 

1125
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,040
ground and he's got 9 strikeouts
and he manages a pitch count. 

1126
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,960
But yeah, also that guy who's 
nibbling a lot of three, two 

1127
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,320
counts, pitch count up high. 
You know, I don't know which way

1128
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,280
the wind is blowing out at the 
rig today, but that's always a 

1129
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,360
variable out there in Chicago. 
Like they need, they need a well

1130
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,280
pitched game. 
And they've had a few and 

1131
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,040
they've lost too with McClain 
and and even Clay Holmes. 

1132
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,440
But he's got to put up some 
zeros early. 

1133
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,560
And this, this Mets offense has 
like the Mets offense, 

1134
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,880
eventually they're going to have
some nights where they they 

1135
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,320
start hitting. 
Even bad teams do. 

1136
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,920
And I don't think the Mets are a
bad team, big picture. 

1137
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,640
They're just a wretched team 
now. 

1138
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,880
And you, you want to see what 
they look like when Soto's back 

1139
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,640
and probably still a couple of 
weeks away here. 

1140
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,040
But the worst thing that you can
do as a pitcher when your 

1141
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,960
offense is scuffling, give up 
two or three runs in the first 

1142
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,280
inning. 
Now that pressure is even more 

1143
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,440
amplified. 
Man, we're in the hole now. 

1144
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,680
You try to you're already trying
to break out of your own 

1145
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,880
personal and team funk, you 
know, so that's like the big 

1146
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,600
picture. 
But then the story within the 

1147
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,920
game is that now we're down a 
couple here and you know, that 

1148
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,080
chains getting a little tighter,
that jersey feels a little 

1149
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,360
tighter. 
I don't know. 

1150
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,920
I don't, I don't really don't 
know what to expect from the 

1151
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,400
Mets much like I really don't 
know what to expect from the 

1152
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Yankees right now. 
I think I've got more of a feel 

1153
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,560
for who the Yankees are. 
And I do think the Yankees are 

1154
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,120
better. 
I mean, the record says that. 

1155
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,000
But in terms of talent, I I 
still think the Yankees are 

1156
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
better and I'm going to 
eventually love their staff. 

1157
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,640
And I still think the Mets get 
their act together, but they 

1158
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,120
better start going here like 
it's it has been. 

1159
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,120
It's one thing when you lose and
it's early, but when you lose 

1160
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,440
the manner in which they have 
now, it looks like you're not 

1161
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,080
dialed into the fundamentals, 
which obviously speaks to 

1162
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,320
coaching. 
Now, to be fair to Carlos 

1163
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,440
Mendoza, but this is just the 
reality of being a coach or 

1164
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,920
manager. 
If you are like Mike Brown can 

1165
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,880
scream, not that he ever will, 
but at practice and you know, be

1166
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,480
diligent with the grace board 
and watching film and his 

1167
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,960
concepts are buttoned up. 
Say try to do something on 

1168
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,840
defense and the Knicks just 
don't do it. 

1169
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:16,320
Well, they don't do it because 
couple of guys out there are 

1170
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,160
fairly deficient defenders like 
Bronson, like Cat, whatever. 

1171
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,080
So you know, you you can be 
dialed in as a coach and your 

1172
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,400
guys still not do their job and 
eventually the buck is stopping 

1173
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,840
with you. 
I don't think that Mendoza is 

1174
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,880
ignoring fundamentals. 
I know he's not. 

1175
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,240
I think he's a good baseball man
who right now has a very 

1176
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:37,760
different roster. 
That is GM gave him that I liked

1177
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,040
going into the offseason. 
I liked what the Mets did. 

1178
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,000
But that doesn't mean that I'm 
going to be right. 

1179
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,480
And it's really not my job to be
right. 

1180
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,520
It's my job to react to what I'm
seeing. 

1181
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,680
It's my job to react to what 
they do like I did during the 

1182
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,520
offseason. 
Yeah, I kind of like this new, 

1183
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,640
you know, love Bouchette, 
Polanco's interesting run 

1184
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,080
prevention, which is not 
happening. 

1185
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,080
They're only preventing 
themselves from scoring so far. 

1186
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,880
But I like what they did 
conceptually, and I reacted to 

1187
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,440
it. 
Now I'm reacting to the slop. 

1188
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,080
But they feed us nightly. 
They got to start playing 

1189
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,000
better. 
Let me get Rob under score. 

1190
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,600
Huertas. 
What's up there, Robbie? 

1191
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,520
All right, BTI gave up on The 
Jets being at 500 for this year 

1192
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,120
already. 
You don't even know the 

1193
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,680
schedule. 
Come on. 

1194
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,680
I have a little optimism after 
all these years that we can get 

1195
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,880
one belief in interception. 
Yeah, I mean it. 

1196
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,760
It's what was the stat last 
year? 

1197
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,960
Well, we all know The Jets 
didn't have an interception. 

1198
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Thank you for that, Robert. 
I appreciate that, man. 

1199
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,680
Generous. 
Jets had no interceptions. 

1200
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,040
Like, imagine sitting there in 
July, you know, whether you're 

1201
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,640
at a preseason game or you're on
your text chain with your 

1202
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,200
buddies and somebody says, hey, 
who wants to bet 500 bucks The 

1203
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Jets won't have a single 
interception the entire season? 

1204
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,520
I'd be like, can we make it 
5000? 

1205
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,960
Can we make it 50,000? 
Yes, I will take that bet and I 

1206
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,000
would have lost. 
So we all know about that. 

1207
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,880
But the other thing too is 
because Garrett Wilson got hurt,

1208
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,520
they did not even have a wide 
receiver over 400 yards 

1209
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,840
receiving. 
Like when you talk about the 

1210
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:12,000
sad, pathetic, ghastly state of 
the New York Jets franchise, 

1211
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960
last year really may have been 
the worst one yet. 

1212
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,120
It may have been because 
December was completely 

1213
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,200
unwatchable, even like the the 
pivot points like the the Blair 

1214
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,320
Thomas fumble on Monday night in
Chicago or the fake spike 

1215
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,080
Boomers team against Miami when 
they lost five games in December

1216
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,360
and even the one in 15 team with
go tight and before that the 

1217
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,760
three win team. 
They were a little bit more 

1218
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,960
exciting to watch. 
At least you had like and I love

1219
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,440
Garrett Wilson, but you had you 
had Keyshawn, you had Corbett, 

1220
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,920
you had Adrian Morrell. 
Then of course you had Curtis 

1221
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,920
and things change. 
But you know, you had Jumbo 

1222
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Elliott, you had MO Lewis, you 
had Marvin Jones, you had Aaron 

1223
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,880
Glenn, who was a terrific 
corner, Ray Mickens really good 

1224
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,880
in the slot. 
I mean, it was AI. 

1225
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,720
Don't know that she well, I 
don't even want to tempt the 

1226
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,960
football gods and say what I was
about to say, but you know what 

1227
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,400
I mean. 
It was bad. 

1228
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,800
All right, You got another call 
there, Jay. 

1229
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,720
What do you got there, pal? 
Sure, we got Vince from Florida 

1230
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,960
calling in. 
All right, let's get him up 

1231
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,720
there. 
Vinny is down to the great state

1232
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,240
of Florida. 
Vince, what part of Florida? 

1233
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,840
Buddy, welcome to the show. 
What's happening? 

1234
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,880
Yeah, hey, I'm in Fort Myers. 
There you go. 

1235
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,680
Fort Myers. 
OK, what's going on? 

1236
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,120
What do you? 
Got OK first you 2 guys are like

1237
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,800
the dynamic duo. 
You guys are fantastic. 

1238
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,320
I love J. 
Rod, he is awesome. 

1239
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,680
He's awesome. 
I feel like I hit the trifecta. 

1240
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,760
I got you and Tiki, then I got 
you and Sal and I got you on 

1241
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,520
Unleashed. 
I hit the trifecta. 

1242
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Hey. 
Hey. 

1243
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,800
Listen, by the way, here's the 
one common you got me. 

1244
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,840
Like that's the common 
denominator I. 

1245
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,800
Heard me and. 
Sal, me and Tiki, but as long as

1246
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,080
you got me, that's. 
What? 

1247
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,840
Matters to me. 
There you go, There you go. 

1248
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,640
Well, you were in each of them. 
So hey, I just have a kind of 

1249
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,040
question for you. 
What was your most memorable 

1250
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,120
game that you're physically out 
like? 

1251
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Knick game. 
Jet game, Giant Game. 

1252
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,480
God, can you give me? 
Can you give me? 

1253
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,720
I love those questions. 
Can can you give me yours first?

1254
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,800
What was? 
Yours OK? 

1255
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,080
It would probably have to be 
game for 69 World Series. 

1256
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Tom Seaver on the mound, you 
know, and I, I got to put 1B to 

1257
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,880
that. 
Got to be the first game, Yankee

1258
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,680
game. 
I went to it. 

1259
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,720
My dad lifts left field 
bleachers behind Yogi Berra. 

1260
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,200
And the funny part is Mickey 
comes up first time they walk 

1261
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,280
them intentional and the fans 
are booing. 

1262
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,800
So I go to my dad. 
Why are they booing Mickey? 

1263
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,880
He goes no, no, no. 
They don't want to pitch to him.

1264
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,440
So they did it three more times.
So about the 8th inning, Mickey 

1265
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,760
comes up, runner on base, the 
other team's winning. 

1266
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,680
I forgot. 
So they pitched him. 

1267
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,800
Boom, he hits A2, run, home run 
into the right field seats. 

1268
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,760
There you go. 
My dad turns to me and says 

1269
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,840
that's why they walk him. 
Yeah. 

1270
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,000
And I'm sure. 
And how old were you? 

1271
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,440
I'm sure a little Vince had a 
pretzel, maybe a little hot dog,

1272
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,040
a little Coke. 
Enjoying. 

1273
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,000
The Mikoni must have been 7. 
Something like that, yeah. 

1274
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,960
Oh my God. 
But hold on, Vince. 

1275
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,160
Now, first of all, where are you
from? 

1276
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,520
Where'd you grow? 
Up originally from the Bronx. 

1277
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280
You go to high school. 
I went to high school, St. 

1278
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,880
Raymond's. 
Oh, you went to Saint Ray? 

1279
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,600
St. 
Ray's, man, can I tell you? 

1280
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,760
Can I tell you a quick aside, 
I'll give you my answer. 

1281
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,280
So I went to Xavier, right? 
So we played against St. 

1282
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,560
Ray's and we played Regis and 
LaSalle Talentine when they were

1283
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,880
still open. 
St. 

1284
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,680
Ray's, all Hollows, Iota Prep, 
all those schools that you know,

1285
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,800
a Silesian, a couple of the 
Spellman, Cardinal Spellman and 

1286
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,920
I remember. 
So I'm a freshman and we're 

1287
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,280
playing St. 
Ray's. 

1288
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,320
Baseball is my sport, but this 
is my freshman year in 

1289
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,760
basketball and, and I'm not a 
starter and I'm on the bench, 

1290
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,520
right? 
And St. 

1291
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Ray's was really good in 
basketball and I remember I 

1292
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,720
would they were pressing us and 
trapping US 94 feet. 

1293
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,880
One of the kids on the team 
actually wound up going to 

1294
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,760
Maris, Danny Basil, who was a 
great shooter, led the NCAA in 

1295
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,320
free throws one year in college 
and he was a great player at 

1296
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,760
Saint Rays. 
And I actually roomed with Danny

1297
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,440
my last year, meet a couple of 
baseball players, my boys, Trev 

1298
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,680
and Maddie. 
Anyway, I remember being on the 

1299
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,680
bench, Vince and I remember 
saying to myself, just looking 

1300
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,520
at them for Mike, because I all 
I could do is shoot. 

1301
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,080
I was slow as shit. 
And I'm sitting there saying I 

1302
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,400
don't want to go in this game. 
Like I just I can't. 

1303
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,920
What am I going to? 
Do with this. 

1304
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,760
And guess what? 
I didn't. 

1305
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,880
He didn't look down my way. 
I didn't say I didn't. 

1306
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,640
I would never say coach, I don't
want to play. 

1307
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,840
I would never do that. 
I'm not a loser. 

1308
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,800
But I'm like, this is going to 
be ugly, man. 

1309
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,560
I tell you, when I was, you 
know, I'm an oldie here. 

1310
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,240
I graduated the same race in 66.
Big thing with Saint Helena's, 

1311
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,160
playing Saint Helena's and we 
even played. 

1312
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,800
I remember playing Tower and 
Rice and we played Power when 

1313
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,840
Lou Alcindor was there. 
Oh my God, We couldn't beat the 

1314
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,960
high school or the PS1. 
O six across the street, one 

1315
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,000
backwards there. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1316
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,080
I mean, I mean, we could talk 
all day about Lou. 

1317
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,880
I mean, I just. 
I just don't know why. 

1318
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,800
Probably because money. 
Because John Wooden had a money 

1319
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,440
man. 
I don't know why. 

1320
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,040
Imagine if Lou would have gone 
to St. 

1321
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:12,760
John's. 
My God. 

1322
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:13,800
All right, so let. 
Me ask you this. 

1323
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,400
He should have. 
Let me ask you this, Vince. 

1324
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,480
The I do have a question before 
I give you my answer. 

1325
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,400
So your first memory was Tom 
Seaver. 

1326
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,160
Game 469 World Series, miracle 
Mets. 

1327
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,520
They win it. 
OK, OK. 

1328
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,720
Your second memory was Yankee 
Stadium. 

1329
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,120
Mickey Mantle. 
Like we're crossing wires. 

1330
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,400
Are you Yankees and Mets? 
Please tell me. 

1331
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,280
No. 
No win. 

1332
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,200
What? 
Well, I was a Yankee fan 

1333
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,040
obviously, back in the 50s and 
60s. 

1334
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,960
Then when the Mets came and KC 
and it was fun, I kind of 

1335
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,600
started room for the Mets, you 
know all. 

1336
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,360
Right. 
You know, not my cup of tea does

1337
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,120
something. 
I usually shoot down, Vince, but

1338
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,480
you seem like a great guy, so 
I'm not going to tie. 

1339
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,240
Usually I'll attack, but I'm 
going to let you go. 

1340
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Hey, have a great weekend, 
Vince. 

1341
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,640
Thank you for the call. 
Appreciate it. 

1342
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:02,040
What was your moment I'm. 
Going, I'm going to give you 

1343
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,680
what you you don't hang with me,
I'll give it to you. 

1344
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,160
Keep them on the line. 
I had a job down. 

1345
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,560
I was going to give it to you 
now, but I want you hung up. 

1346
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,440
So I'll take you through the 
process. 

1347
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,760
There's a couple to jump out 
right away now. 

1348
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,720
I used to go to the Knick 
playoff games all the time. 

1349
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,280
And that's like that's that's so
meaningful because I was with my

1350
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,720
dad and amazing. 
And I was at the game when 

1351
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,320
Hubert Davis really didn't get 
fouled, but Hugh Hollins bailed 

1352
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,840
him out and he hit a couple of 
free throws to I think Pippen 

1353
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,720
found them, but he didn't really
found them and he bailed out 

1354
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,640
Ewing, who had missed a couple 
of free throws late. 

1355
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,040
So I'll never forget that one. 
The two that really do jump out 

1356
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,600
to me pushing St. 
John's aside, having done the 

1357
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,480
Sweet 16 like that was very 
meaningful to me. 

1358
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,120
It's got to be the 96 clincher 
against the Braves, 96, Yankees 

1359
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,600
game six. 
I was there and that was the 

1360
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,920
first World Series from the 
Yankees that I was. 

1361
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,480
You know, I was born in 77 and 
70, but I just, I was too young.

1362
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,600
I've said that a million times. 
I didn't. 

1363
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,040
I don't really remember watching
that at all. 

1364
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,880
So 96 game, one Yanks win 
finally and then the other one 

1365
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:08,520
was the 98 playoff game for The 
Jets before they lost in Denver 

1366
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,520
when they beat Tom Coughlin's 
Jaguars. 

1367
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,440
I was also at the game. 
I had season tickets at this 

1368
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,360
point and you know, that was 
Mark Brunel and Keenan Allen and

1369
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,360
and Jimmy Smith and Freddie 
Taylor. 

1370
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,760
Tony Boselli left tackle. 
Awesome. 

1371
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,360
I was worried about that game. 
Great coach in Coughlin and the 

1372
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,320
thing that I remember most about
outside of being euphoric 

1373
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,240
leaving that stadium, Keyshawn 
Johnson. 

1374
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,040
Johnson had an interception at 
the end of the game. 

1375
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,560
Yeah, Parcells put them in. 
You've seen that before. 

1376
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,880
You know, he's 6364. 
Keyshawn puts he's on the third 

1377
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,600
level. 
You know, Brunel throws a Hail 

1378
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Mary, Keyshawn picks it off. 
Keyshawn also had AI believe 

1379
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,120
that Why? 
I know he ran one in Keyshawn 

1380
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,200
had a reverse on the left side 
from like 20 or 30 yards out. 

1381
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,720
So that game Keyshawn ran one in
caught a touchdown and had an 

1382
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,840
interception in a game The Jets 
to the AFC championship and I 

1383
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,400
real I really thought Vince and 
thank you for the call Vince. 

1384
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,360
It's been a pleasure chatting 
with you man great stuff. 

1385
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,720
Thank you man. 
I thought that that was the year

1386
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,400
that The Jets were going to win 
the Super Bowl like everything 

1387
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:15,000
about it The Jets before there's
a million years ago glory days 

1388
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,440
98 I guess 2026. 
I'm I'm grasping for 1998. 

1389
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,080
Good God, help me with The Jets.
But I remember going into that, 

1390
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,000
that that parking lot at like 
8:00 in the morning and 

1391
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,040
tailgating with like the 3540 
dudes, a lot of firemen's and 

1392
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,600
cops and a couple of my good 
buddies who were on Wall Street,

1393
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,320
whatever. 
But we had an awesome mix and we

1394
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,400
would get there. 
I mean, the sun was barely up 

1395
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,880
and we're tailgating like 
animals and we go into the 

1396
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,600
stadium and you know, I'm back 
in the day, you know, before 

1397
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,920
911, you know, we stick some 
beers in your pocket because 

1398
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,720
they had that big, that big like
garbage, that big plastic 

1399
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,120
garbage thing, which they still 
have. 

1400
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,960
So you like, you'd hammer one 
and then because you can't walk 

1401
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,040
in with a beer, you'd hammer it.
Then you throw it in the trash 

1402
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,680
bin, that big bin. 
But then you'd have like two or 

1403
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,520
three tucked in your belt and 
they wouldn't check it because 

1404
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,880
it was pre 911. 
And I just remember going into 

1405
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,280
that game and waking up that 
morning and that whole year, 

1406
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,600
like this is our year. 
Because The Jets had never even 

1407
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,760
won a division until 1998. 
That was their first divisional 

1408
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,480
title ever. 
And you know, think about the 

1409
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,600
trajectory here. 
The the 90 set, the 9016 was 

1410
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,280
obviously 1 and 15 with Co 
tight. 

1411
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,160
Then 97 Parcells comes and they 
still had Adrian Morel. 

1412
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,040
They got Curtis Martin with that
poison pill contract the next 

1413
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,200
year. 
But in 97, The Jets went nine 

1414
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,960
and seven. 
And that's Bill's first year and

1415
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,800
training camp that I remember 
the energy. 

1416
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,840
I used to go to Hofstra's 
training camp to watch him and 

1417
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,920
it was just magical man. 
And and eventually 98 Binny took

1418
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,080
over And the crazy thing is they
went 12 and four and I believe 

1419
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,000
they started over 2. 
I know they lost the first game 

1420
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,600
in San Fran. 
I was in Myrtle Beach playing 

1421
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,840
golf with my buddies on on our 
annual trip and I'm like, I 

1422
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,520
ain't playing golf today. 
I'm watching The Jets. 

1423
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,880
Like they went and played and a 
couple of guys hung back with me

1424
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,800
and we were we were going to 
play 36. 

1425
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,760
I'm like, I'm going to I'm going
to get wings and I'm watching 

1426
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,200
The Jets. 
There's no way I'm playing golf 

1427
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,960
again. 
I played this morning, didn't 

1428
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,800
play well, I't watch Parcells 
Jets and it was an awesome game 

1429
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,520
and Glenn Foley threw a couple 
of touchdowns, Keyshawn had one,

1430
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,080
Corbett had one and then 
Garrison Hurst in overtime 

1431
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,200
ripped off. 
I think it was a 96 yard 

1432
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,760
touchdown run that I believe MO 
Lewis was the one who had the 

1433
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,360
best chance to get him and he 
kind of whipped like he got him 

1434
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,600
from the side as Garrison was 
going up the flats. 

1435
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,560
And from there, then I think 
they lost to either the Ravens 

1436
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:41,080
or the Rams with Tony Banks. 
And then the first win was at 

1437
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,600
home. 
Did they start the first two 

1438
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,880
years on the road that year? 
I guess they did because I went 

1439
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,720
to the home opener, obviously, 
and they played the Colts and 

1440
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,880
they won like they scored like 
40 something points. 

1441
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,000
And I remember Leon Johnson, who
they drafted out of North 

1442
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,080
Carolina. 
They used to call him the 

1443
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,200
natural Leon Johnson running 
back, special teams guy, Luke 

1444
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,240
Gadget guy, and he caught us. 
And now Vinny's starting. 

1445
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,680
He's like, I think Glenn Foley 
got hurt and Parcells put in 

1446
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,000
Vinny and the offense just went 
to a different level and Vinny 

1447
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,320
had an amazing season and Leon 
Johnson had like a 50 or 60 yard

1448
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,920
catch and run screen pass and it
was on. 

1449
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,960
And then every game just got 
more and more believable and 

1450
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,000
exciting in 98. 
And this was after a fun 97. 

1451
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,479
And I really thought that that 
was the year. 

1452
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,359
And of course it wasn't breaking
news. 

1453
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:26,240
Spoiler was not the year. 
J Rod. 

1454
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:29,720
Heartbreaker we got. 
We got our main man. 

1455
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,720
I'm excited about this on Avery 
Summit calling in. 

1456
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,479
We got Avery Summit calling in, 
bro. 

1457
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,439
I'm so excited. 
I love it. 

1458
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,040
All right, man. 
Now he always, yeah, he always 

1459
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,120
chats us up. 
He's he's one of the first 

1460
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,760
people to to ever really, you 
know what? 

1461
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,840
Not jumped in early with BT and 
Lee. 

1462
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,399
She's there from day one. 
And even more important, he's a 

1463
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:53,479
Marine park guy, which is where 
I'm from. 

1464
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,840
So Avery from BK. 
What up, Avery? 

1465
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,800
How you doing buddy? 
Hey BT, an honor to be on your 

1466
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,200
first live call day. 
Pleasure interacting with you 

1467
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,080
guys all along. 
Actually, you've been awesome. 

1468
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,840
Thank you, ma'am. 
My pleasure, I really enjoy the 

1469
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,640
give and take with you guys. 
I go back to the 1050 days with 

1470
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,040
Stephen A and something that 
stuck out about you as opposed 

1471
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,800
to some others, let's say on 
sports talk, is that yes, you 

1472
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,920
definitely could, you know, make
fun of yourself. 

1473
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,000
Don't take yourself too 
seriously, but at the same time 

1474
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,600
your sports obsessed, your 
sports obsessed and like as the 

1475
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,960
industry has gone more towards 
gimmicky, more entertainment, 

1476
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,800
non sports related on the sports
stations. 

1477
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,520
I told my friends, I said you 
want your doctor to not be 

1478
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,840
obsessed with medicine. 
You don't want your accountant 

1479
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,319
to be obsessed with numbers. 
You want your sports got to be 

1480
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:43,200
obsessed with sports and that's 
what's out with me all the way 

1481
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:48,560
from the 1050 days and I just. 
Thought wow the 1050 days Avery 

1482
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,200
I well I I appreciate they'll I 
got a point to make a possible 

1483
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,560
no, absolutely I'm not going to 
hang up buddy, but I got got you

1484
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,680
man those there's no 
commercials. 

1485
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,120
I go as long as I want. 
It's different. 

1486
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,760
I mean there's there's sponsors,
but it's like I had to break by 

1487
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,400
a certain that there was no 
especially on no rules Friday. 

1488
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,040
Yeah, maybe I'll let you host 
the show with me at some point. 

1489
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,600
The, the early 1050 days were 
wild, man like that. 

1490
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,480
And I, I loved all those guys. 
And maybe you remember I was 

1491
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:16,680
with Wally in the key doing the 
updates to start. 

1492
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,160
You probably remember those 
guys, 2 great guys. 

1493
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:22,840
And then obviously doing the 
stuff with Stephen A and doing 

1494
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,600
my night show and working with 
Jody Mack. 

1495
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,760
I mean, I was, I was there 10 or
11 years and I remember it was 

1496
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,240
so you know, I talked about this
with, with Donnie and Michael 

1497
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,400
when I had both of them on the 
show. 

1498
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,320
If you guys missed it going 
through the channel library and 

1499
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,400
you'll find both and Stephen A 
as well where the, we had such a

1500
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,760
strong lineup, but our signal 
was so bad nobody can hear us. 

1501
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,280
Like you got certain parts of 
Long Island, Manhattan. 

1502
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,840
I mean, we were doing tinfoil 
and and a hanger, but you think 

1503
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,760
about some of the names and I'm 
going to take myself out of it. 

1504
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,680
Michael K, Stephen A, Donnie, 
Donnie Lagreca, Max later on. 

1505
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,680
I mean, we had some hitters in 
that lot of men. 

1506
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,520
That was a good time. 
I love 1050. 

1507
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,480
Yeah, that was loaded. 
So just quick point if possible.

1508
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,720
There's some interesting 
similarities between the McMahon

1509
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,600
situation with the Yankees and 
Cat with the Knicks. 

1510
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,040
Just hear me out on this one. 
If you remember leading up to 

1511
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,800
the Yankees getting McMahon the 
names that they had at third 

1512
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,920
base since a rod was gone, you 
got Kevin, you Kelly Johnson, 

1513
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,600
Headley, Brandon Jury and do our
and or Shella gave a little bit 

1514
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,040
of a you know, a break. 
Then you had Donaldson washed up

1515
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:29,880
D. 
Donaldson. 

1516
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,440
Oswaldo Cabrera So the Yankees 
were in a position where, like 

1517
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,440
you always say, you got to give 
Judge the pieces. 

1518
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,800
And when they things came to the
head, the only one available to 

1519
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,760
be a a you know, a body at third
base was McMahon. 

1520
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,880
His flaws were his flaws. 
And like you always say, that's 

1521
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,680
not going to change once you're 
in the league for so many years.

1522
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,880
And in the same way with Cat, 
what they do they the Knicks, 

1523
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,240
they traded away, they traded 
for OG, right? 

1524
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,880
That set the team on a better 
path, right? 

1525
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,280
That was a great move. 
And Brunson was really coming to

1526
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,640
his own and he was taking the 
team and they needed that, that 

1527
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,600
that that last piece, that one A
to Brunson even. 

1528
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,680
And the only one available in 
that moment was Cat. 

1529
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,400
We knew his flaws. 
He's been in the league for a 

1530
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,600
decade, but that was the best 
move in the moment and you can't

1531
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,720
blame the player for who they 
are and who they're not. 

1532
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,160
That's what the front office 
moves both the Yankees made with

1533
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,000
McMahon and the Knicks made with
Cat, and that's what we're stuck

1534
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,520
with it both. 
But the Knicks, it's obviously a

1535
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,480
bigger piece and we'll see where
that goes with the playoffs. 

1536
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:26,360
But McMahon is who he is. 
Yep, you know, Stephen A brought

1537
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,360
that up too, because when I had 
Stephen on Stephen, I was Steven

1538
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,960
was on for about two hours. 
Avery right. 

1539
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:34,920
And you know, I didn't if you if
you've watched the interviews 

1540
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,960
that I'm, I'm sure that you have
because you you're absolutely 

1541
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,280
you've been locked in from day 
one. 

1542
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,040
You know, whether it's Donnie or
or Michael or I had Nikki 

1543
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,800
Ladarullo on some other people 
in the media, like I don't want 

1544
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,040
to do an interview. 
So Steven, especially when I'm 

1545
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,000
boys with somebody. 
Steven. 

1546
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,680
Well, what do you think of the 
Knicks chances of winning the 

1547
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,560
championship? 
Like that's boring. 

1548
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,000
I want I want to talk. 
I want to I want to have a long,

1549
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,120
deep conversation. 
And we really did. 

1550
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,280
We actually didn't even really 
talk that much. 

1551
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,800
Knicks, if you if you watched 
it. 

1552
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,520
But the one thing that he did 
say about the Knicks and I 

1553
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,080
straight up asked him, I said, 
Hey, I said, you think cat soft.

1554
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,720
Do you think cat soft? 
And his answer was very 

1555
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,120
interesting. 
No, he's not soft. 

1556
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,600
He's just playing the way that 
he's always played like a guy 

1557
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,040
who's now you know what I mean? 
And and and that's that is on 

1558
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,240
the Knicks if it doesn't work 
out because you can't acquire 

1559
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,520
somebody and expect them to 
change who they are. 

1560
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,320
Like you didn't get Ryan McMahon
even even though we thought he'd

1561
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,800
be better than this, because 
he's awful. 

1562
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,080
He's not going to be Greg 
Metals. 

1563
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,560
He's not going to be Wade Boggs.
You know, he'd be Charlie Hayes.

1564
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,320
You're not going to be a Rod, 
that's for damn sure. 

1565
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,560
So he's going to catch the ball.
You hope he runs into some home 

1566
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,680
runs and you hope he hits two 
35240. 

1567
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,120
If they thought he was going to 
be more than that, and at this 

1568
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,960
point you you do cartwheels over
two 35240, then you're wrong. 

1569
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,480
If you thought the cat was going
to be Charles Oakley or or 

1570
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,360
Patrick Ewing in the paint, you 
didn't watch cat of Kentucky, 

1571
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,320
didn't want cat. 
You don't watch cat and at at at

1572
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:55,120
at the with the Minnesota 
Timberwolves. 

1573
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,480
So I think it's a salient point 
and I, I think a lot of us, a 

1574
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,080
lot of people lose sight of, you
know, especially when you are 

1575
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,200
beyond two or three years in a 
league. 

1576
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,320
Like you can make adjustments as
you're a young player, 

1577
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,520
especially as a hitter or as a 
young pitcher. 

1578
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,160
And in the NBA, you can get 
stronger, expand your game, 

1579
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,600
become a better shooter. 
You can always increase and add 

1580
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,160
like things to your repertoire. 
But fundamentally, who you are, 

1581
01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:20,720
that's not going to change. 
Do we expect Mikhail Bridges 

1582
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,720
next year to begin no matter 
what he does? 

1583
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,000
He could pump weight. 
He can do the jailhouse workout,

1584
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,600
1000 push ups every day, bench 
press every day. 

1585
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,440
He could go to UFC and Street 
Fight every day if he wants. 

1586
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,200
He's never gonna take 7 free 
throws a game because he doesn't

1587
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,960
attack the win that. 
Way in a similar way. 

1588
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,640
He gotta know. 
Is the same because he is who he

1589
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,400
was, what was his, what were his
pros. 

1590
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,360
He was always available. 
He was a good two way place good

1591
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,000
and the reason why he was more 
valuable to the Knicks is 

1592
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,840
because he had that Nova 
connection and he was available 

1593
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,720
at the time and that's what he 
got. 

1594
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,400
But he is who he is. 
He's not anything less than we 

1595
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,960
really thought he would be. 
He was scoring 20 on the Nets 

1596
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,880
because the Nets were terrible, 
so someone had to score the ball

1597
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,760
on the Nets. 
So it's the same way. 

1598
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,200
He is who he is. 
That's all we got. 

1599
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,160
Hey, where'd you are now? 
I know you're in Marine Park 

1600
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,320
now. 
Is that where you grew up, man 

1601
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,360
or no? 
No, no, I'm guilty as charged. 

1602
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,800
I knew I would. 
If I wrote Marine Park, I'd 

1603
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:16,440
catch your eye, but I'm a. 
Queen, you're but, but you're in

1604
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:19,400
Marine Park now. 
Yeah, up by Quinton Rd. 

1605
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,080
So not like closer to the 
Midwood. 

1606
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,400
Section by Madison Mad Oh, but 
so for not by Madison by Midwood

1607
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,520
High School. 
By like Quinton and the 

1608
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,840
Nostrand. 
These are easy questions, Avery.

1609
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,880
We already got past the heart 
stuff that's coming very on just

1610
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,920
to. 
Give you a little bit of a 

1611
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,920
little bit of background. 
I wasn't on your scene. 

1612
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,920
I'm from the same tribe as Dove,
so I'm from a different. 

1613
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,320
Gotcha. 
Oh my man, Dove. 

1614
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:44,760
Gotcha. 
So. 

1615
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,160
I'm not in that world. 
I got you. 

1616
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,520
Hopefully you had a good 
Passover, man. 

1617
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,680
I got you. 
All good, dude. 

1618
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,760
Nice. 
I'll talk to you soon. 

1619
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,120
Thanks for the call. 
I appreciate you. 

1620
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,320
There you go. 
I mean, J Rod. 

1621
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,280
We're cooking with gas, bro. 
This is sick. 

1622
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:02,480
We got, we got another dude 
coming up in a second. 

1623
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,040
I love it, man. 
I mean, I feel it. 

1624
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,720
I feel it. 
Can you feel that? 

1625
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,640
Can you feel the the the 
elevation of the of the show 

1626
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:15,440
just a little with the gaming? 
Yeah, dude, it's sick. 

1627
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,800
I mean, listen, you know, 
because I there's something 

1628
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:20,640
else. 
We added this. 

1629
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,680
Well, not only I guess the 
backdrop's looking killer now. 

1630
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,920
I mean, it's looking great, your
background. 

1631
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,240
Yeah, we're there. 
We're getting there. 

1632
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,640
I feel like the production value
this week, like at least went up

1633
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:39,440
at least almost double, like I'd
say like 95 percent, 99%, 

1634
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:42,920
something about just the value. 
I think we just took a jump. 

1635
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,560
OK, so I love it, man. 
All right, I had a boy. 

1636
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,040
I I don't disagree. 
All right, keep the calls coming

1637
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,800
in. 
What do we got? 

1638
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,640
Who's up next on Unleashed? 
BT On BT Unleashed. 

1639
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:53,880
Talk to me. 
I almost called you BT. 

1640
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,960
Up next, I got to pull them in 
still, but we've got Robert, so 

1641
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,160
that's going to be like another.
Man, all right, Just pop them up

1642
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:01,760
when you're ready. 
It's all good. 

1643
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,600
It's all good, all good. 
We'll get Robert up a little bit

1644
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,440
there at Rod Power 78. 
Have you ever done a workout 

1645
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,360
with Tiki and how exhausting was
it? 

1646
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,560
No, I cannot do a Tiki workout. 
I want to get Tiki on the show. 

1647
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,880
I'd I'd like to get him next 
week at some point before the 

1648
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,720
Giants pick. 
The one thing about Tiki, I 

1649
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,280
mean, Tiki looks like Zeus. 
Tiki looks amazing, man. 

1650
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,600
There was a point when we were 
working together nationally 

1651
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,560
where he dropped out of like 180
something. 

1652
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,000
But he's running a lot of 
marathons. 

1653
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,160
Remember he ran a marathon in 
Israel. 

1654
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,960
I, I think he, he made some 
international trips to run 

1655
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,160
marathons, maybe London. 
I'm, I'm pretty sure it was 

1656
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,240
Israel, not Australia. 
Was it, was it Australia? 

1657
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,040
And he just really thinned out. 
And then Tig, he's like, all 

1658
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,040
right, man, I got to get, I got 
to get those arms pop in his 

1659
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,640
chest. 
He's, he just looks like he's, I

1660
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,840
mean, he looks like he's 30. 
And the thing about Tig, I mean,

1661
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,120
listen, I mean, I've known him 
long enough and I could play 

1662
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,360
with him. 
Can you wear a tighter shirt, 

1663
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,600
though? 
I understand you want to show 

1664
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,440
things off and I understand 
that. 

1665
01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:05,880
Like I'll wear, you know, tight 
teeth, not tight, tight, not 

1666
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,720
like him because I don't look 
anything like him, but I'll wear

1667
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,280
AT shirt that's got a little 
little grab to it, because I'm I

1668
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,440
like the chest and you know, 
it's it's the love handles you 

1669
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:17,000
got to cover up and the little 
pencil legs that I have here. 

1670
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,920
But you know, you had nice 
little tight T-shirt and show 

1671
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,880
off the 110th of a gun that I 
have. 

1672
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,560
But that guy, I mean he he now 
he doesn't dress like he's going

1673
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,720
clubbing all right, because he's
not that kind of guy. 

1674
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,680
He's a real family man, but I 
mean, he could wear he could go 

1675
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,040
to it looks like he's going to 
the limelight back in the day. 

1676
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,800
So or or the tunnel. 
Some of those shirts he wears 

1677
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,680
men. 
There is no shirt that is too 

1678
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,400
tight for that guy. 
So no, I never did a workout 

1679
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,360
with Tiki. 
But what we would do and it was 

1680
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,040
so funny, man. 
And we did this for the 10 years

1681
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,680
that we worked. 
Yet he will he will tell you 

1682
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:57,080
this, right. 
And there was a point for I 

1683
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,520
think it stopped a little bit at
the fan because I, I had an, an 

1684
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,960
arm issue. 
What else is new Always hurt. 

1685
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,240
I would do push ups every single
break the moment. 

1686
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,760
So we start the show at 10 and 
we go to break. 

1687
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,240
You know, I was usually late 
with the break. 

1688
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,920
Well, we go to break. 
It was supposed to be 1020. 

1689
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:19,080
It's 1022 drop down to 30 or 40.
So then come back, you know, 

1690
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,280
break it 10:40 if I remember 
1040 something, whatever might 

1691
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,240
be, I don't know, do 30 or 40 
more the whole show. 

1692
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,720
And when I'm doing that, he's 
doing like planks, he's doing 

1693
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,600
different shit, he's stretching 
out. 

1694
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,400
He's doing like this, not not 
jiu jitsu, but he's doing this 

1695
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,480
crazy yoga stuff like the 
flexibility that that man still 

1696
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:41,800
has at the age his birthday was 
the other day as a happy 

1697
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,400
birthday to tik. 
I think he just turned 51. 

1698
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,960
It's crazy. 
I mean, but that see, that's the

1699
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,040
difference. 
Like that dude was born an 

1700
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,160
athlete and he had to work for 
tiki wrestle when he was in high

1701
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,080
school. 
So did Ronde. 

1702
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,680
But I've always said, you know, 
certain guys, certain athletes, 

1703
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,840
right, are touched with 1010 
fingers by God in terms of 

1704
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:07,520
athleticism, where they've just 
got a certain elasticity to 

1705
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,880
their tendons. 
So they don't pull things 

1706
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,240
they've got, you know, they're 
proportional. 

1707
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,040
They they, if they can run, if 
they've got natural muscle tone,

1708
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,000
I had none of that. 
I was tight as a drum. 

1709
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,680
I had to work for any muscle 
that I ever got. 

1710
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,880
And they're not very flexible. 
So so he was touched with 10 

1711
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,880
fingers. 
You know, got like Mike Trout, 

1712
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,760
Aaron Judge, 10 fingers, Jeter, 
10 fingers, a rod, 10 fingers 

1713
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:39,600
me. 
I probably had maybe 6, maybe 

1714
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,640
something like that. 
Jay, that's one. 

1715
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,360
How many did you have? 
How many fingers did you get? 

1716
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,240
It what in terms of my athletic 
prowess from God? 

1717
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:52,160
Yeah, 2345 what? 
Do you like the shaving off his 

1718
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,920
pinky nail? 
No. 

1719
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,080
All right, let's see. 
In terms of like my mid range 

1720
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,640
jumper, right? 
That's pretty good. 

1721
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,400
That's what we've got. 
I've got a mid range. 

1722
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:00,840
Jumper. 
That's it. 

1723
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:06,760
That's my athletic. 
You're one of those guys where 

1724
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,640
you know, you're drawn up sides,
you're you play well. 

1725
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,600
I don't know that I don't know 
that your generation played in 

1726
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,640
the schoolyard like or the park 
like we did. 

1727
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,440
You know, probably more nice, 
nice gyms and stuff for for the 

1728
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:17,080
most part. 
Or somebody's backyard, right? 

1729
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,960
Probably. 
Open gym like yeah like rec 

1730
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,920
center type vibes. 
So you had a good place to go. 

1731
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,200
OK Jay, Rod's the kind of guy if
you don't know him, you're not 

1732
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,800
picking him first cuz you know, 
he's not, he's not that 

1733
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,520
lightning quick point guard or 
that big center who's gonna die.

1734
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,560
But then you get him on your 
team, you're like, oh, he could,

1735
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,080
he could bury that. 
He could hit that 15. 

1736
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,720
I could see you being a good 
shooter. 

1737
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,000
No, it would be like no, you 
always talk about the mid range.

1738
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,800
Pick me kind of 2nd to last, 
last, but then you'd be like all

1739
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,720
right, like he scored like 6 
points off of a couple, you 

1740
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,600
know, mid range jumpers. 
He did his thing. 

1741
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,440
Listen, there we go. 
All right. 

1742
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,400
We've got, we've got a couple. 
What are? 

1743
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,800
We guys in the, in the, in the, 
what's it called in the dugout 

1744
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,080
right here. 
In the queue. 

1745
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,240
In the queue. 
In the queue. 

1746
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,400
Yep, in the queue we got all 
right, let's get them up, man. 

1747
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,320
Let's let's hammer through some 
calls pop them up there. 

1748
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:02,680
Jay, this is great. 
I love we could. 

1749
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,960
I told you guys we were going to
do this. 

1750
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,520
I told you I told you we were 
going to do this. 

1751
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,800
Rob is the What's that, Jay? 
That was him that wasn't. 

1752
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,120
I got you. 
I got you. 

1753
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,120
I'm sorry. 
That's all right. 

1754
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:13,560
Thank you. 
Good. 

1755
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,200
Robertson, Stratford, CT. 
Rob, welcome to BT Unleash, man.

1756
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,800
What's going on? 
So I just got 2 main questions 

1757
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,320
for you, honestly concerning the
Yankees. 

1758
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,680
One was I think Boone has to 
take a harder line on these guys

1759
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:32,080
taking the challenges I did not 
like in that game that early, 

1760
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,200
losing both our challenges like 
that. 

1761
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,120
Yeah, I saw that too. 
They yeah, Jazz has been awful. 

1762
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,960
I think he's challenged 6 and 
he's missed 5 like he's 

1763
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,360
basically missed everyone. 
That's an interesting point. 

1764
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,120
I I think, and I'll let you get 
to your next point. 

1765
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,880
Obviously, Rob, listen, it's a 
new thing and there's certain 

1766
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,360
hitters you get to trust more. 
It's not it, you know, it's not 

1767
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,600
like high school or even college
where like you're 3 or 4 hitter 

1768
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,320
all right, green light 3 O you 
get something you like something

1769
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,400
you can drive. 
Go for it where you 8 hitter, 

1770
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,640
you give them the take sign, 
right. 

1771
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,400
You know, they take 1. 
So it, it it's they're they're 

1772
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,480
major leaguers. 
They're going to have that that 

1773
01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:08,880
latitude until they prove that 
they really don't deserve it. 

1774
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,040
So it's a work in progress and 
it's fairly inexact because none

1775
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,720
of these guys came up with it in
the minors, you know, exposed to

1776
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,440
it during spring training. 
You know, from a managerial 

1777
01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:21,440
perspective, from a player 
perspective, I think at the end 

1778
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:24,440
of the day, I think that the 
Yankees, I think most teams will

1779
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:26,240
figure it out. 
And I think when you get to 

1780
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,560
higher leverage games and 
certainly higher leverage 

1781
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,080
moments like September, October,
you want to make sure I would 

1782
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,840
imagine that it would be 
communicated. 

1783
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,680
Yo, don't burn what in the first
inning on a one O pitch. 

1784
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,600
You know, let's, let's keep a 
few of the bags. 7th, 8th, 9th 

1785
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,320
inning. 
And I think that Boom will do 

1786
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:42,880
that yes. 
And I think most will. 

1787
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,440
And the second point I just want
to say was what do you think 

1788
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:49,520
about the Yankees could do to 
fix the bullpen because we are 

1789
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,120
lost at sea out there. 
You got to get new guys. 

1790
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,440
It's it's that simple. 
Thanks for the call there, Rob. 

1791
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:56,960
I appreciate you checking in 
Connecticut. 

1792
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,200
You got it, man. 
Thank you. 

1793
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,880
They're bullpens. 
It's horrendous. 

1794
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,520
I mean, you know, I mean, listen
here, I've said for a couple 

1795
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,000
days now, I'm like, you know, I,
I like bet nor I trust better 

1796
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,520
and I do. 
But like, that's the guy that 

1797
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,560
you trust. 
And I, and I like Fernando Cruz.

1798
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,320
I've always liked him. 
I like his energy. 

1799
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,280
He was good from last year. 
He's got that nasty splitter 

1800
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,640
when it's on, no one's touching 
it, but they battled against 

1801
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,520
them this this Angel series. 
But I, I do trust him. 

1802
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,000
I don't know if I trust him in 
the 8th inning, you know, 21 up 

1803
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,280
a run and up in Toronto in the 
playoffs, but I do trust him. 

1804
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,840
Duvall just ain't working. 
Birds sent to the minors. 

1805
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,000
You've got a lot of guys who 
throw gas in the miners who will

1806
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,120
be up here. 
So I do believe that there. 

1807
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,800
And when I say gas, I mean one O
1 gas, not 98 gas, one O 1. 

1808
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,800
I mean, just hitting triple 
digits with filthy stuff. 

1809
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,280
So I think there's some internal
solutions. 

1810
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,720
And then, and I was talking 
about this on the show Monday or

1811
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,280
Tuesday, it came up. 
The other thing that's going to 

1812
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,320
change is, you know, when 
Garrett Cole comes back, when 

1813
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:57,440
Carlos Rodon comes back, you're 
going to have not me. 

1814
01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:59,320
You can mess around with the 
order, however, but you know, 

1815
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,480
Freed 1, Colt 2, Schlitzler 3, 
Rodon 4. 

1816
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,120
And then, you know, I think 
Louis Giel is much more equipped

1817
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,920
to go to the bullpen myself. 
I even think that will Warren 

1818
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,040
eventually is going to lose his 
spot. 

1819
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:17,000
And I think I believe he will be
a really good like 6th and 7th 

1820
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,960
inning guy or or an option. 
Because the problem with what 

1821
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,880
Will Warren's got good stuff. 
He's got some good swinging 

1822
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,720
missed stuff. 
And I know Boone likes, but I 

1823
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,600
like him. 
But he always has that one 

1824
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,920
inning where it's like like 
they're up and then he has a 27 

1825
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,400
pitch inning and it just he 
laborers a little bit and he 

1826
01:25:32,440 --> 01:25:36,200
kind of nibbles and they foul a 
few like can't put guys away. 

1827
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,680
The pitch count goes up. 
I think ultimately he is in the 

1828
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,360
bullpen. 
And I think that ultimately 

1829
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,120
Clark Schmidt, who was way 
behind Colin Rodon coming back, 

1830
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,600
I believe ultimately Clark 
Schmidt will be the 5th pitcher 

1831
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,120
for the Yankees or maybe they 
make a trade. 

1832
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,600
But I, I think, listen, you're 
going to have provided the 

1833
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,360
Yankees make the playoffs And, 
and I believe that they will. 

1834
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,400
I had them as a 95 win team 
coming in. 

1835
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,480
I don't know if I feel 95 right 
now, but I'll stick with it. 

1836
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:04,360
We'll see. 
It's early. 

1837
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,440
I think you'll have three new 
arms, 3 new bullpen arms. 

1838
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:12,680
And I believe one will be 
acquired and I believe 2 will 

1839
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:18,080
be, you know, this, this Yankee 
staff iteration will you'll see 

1840
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,440
some moving parts and some 
shifting of roles. 

1841
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,200
And and I do think it will get 
better. 

1842
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,160
I do. 
Yeah, I do for sure. 

1843
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:30,160
You know, and we got here, pop 
this up at JT Bombers. 

1844
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,640
What's going on, JT? 
All right, BT St. 

1845
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:33,120
John's. 
I don't. 

1846
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,520
I don't, I don't. 
I know. 

1847
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,560
OK, I know. 
Don't worry. 

1848
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,400
It's Rick Pitino. 
We've got four players on the 

1849
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,440
roster. 
Rumor has it we paid 4 million 

1850
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:45,560
for a euro point guard. 575 to 
seven players have visited. 

1851
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,640
No signings. 
I am worried this will be the 

1852
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,800
easiest thing for me to say 
today. 

1853
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,840
You know, even the Yankee 
bullpen description. 

1854
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,440
What else? 
The Mets talking about the 

1855
01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:57,720
Knicks getting ready for the 
Hawks? 

1856
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,840
That right there is the easiest 
thing I will face all weekend. 

1857
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,720
Have zero fear about what St. 
John's is going to do in the 

1858
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,600
portal. 
Have no reservations about Rick 

1859
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,720
Pitino's ability to build 
another superpower. 

1860
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,320
And I believe it's going to be 
better, even though Zoobie's 

1861
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,400
going to be sorely missed, man, 
few of those guys going to be 

1862
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,200
missed. 
Like, I was kind of hoping Santa

1863
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,040
would come back, but he just 
didn't play well. 

1864
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,280
I'm sorry. 
And you know, every I was saying

1865
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,960
to Mink, like, you know, I 
remember saying the first 

1866
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,320
broadcast, I'm like, I believe 
Mink at the end of the year, 

1867
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,120
Santa is going to be the best 
shooter on the team. 

1868
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,200
Like that's what he was, you 
know, described as. 

1869
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,960
And I saw him a little bit at 
Arizona State for Bobby Hurley. 

1870
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,720
I saw a lot of film, you know, a
lot, I read a lot of draft 

1871
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,040
reports on Sadden, who was, you 
know, 65, good strong body. 

1872
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,920
A lot of people thought that 
and, and I, I guess still do 

1873
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,560
that he's going to be an NBA 
player. 

1874
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,160
I just, I don't see it. 
I thought that was wildly 

1875
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,120
overstated. 
What he can't get to the rim, 

1876
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,520
like he never comfortably gets 
to the rim. 

1877
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,480
I don't think he's got a good 
handle at all. 

1878
01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:00,280
And I'm not trying to disparage 
him, but he just was not good 

1879
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,720
enough. 
The fact that Ian Jackson's 

1880
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,440
coming back, who I love as a 2 
guard and you get the Euro kid 

1881
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:12,040
Quinn, who is 6 foot 5 and has 
played against grown men 

1882
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,760
professionally for seven years. 
Saint John's back. 

1883
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,800
Court's going to be insane. 
Now the other thing you got to 

1884
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,200
understand too, I know other 
teams have brought players in 

1885
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,440
and other like the Big East is 
the the actually Providence is 

1886
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:24,240
at a really good run in the 
portal. 

1887
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,040
So they popped a little bit. 
Rick's son's done some good 

1888
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,640
things to Xavier. 
You know, Seton Hall's lost a 

1889
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,040
little bit, gained a little bit,
but they're in a tough spot 

1890
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,480
without a ton of NIL. 
It looks like Marquette's going 

1891
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:39,120
to be a little bit more active 
this year. 

1892
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:45,040
But I think that, well, I know 
that it's all mapped out, man. 

1893
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,400
They know who they want. 
They've got in this case, I 

1894
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,960
don't, I don't know how many 
years this goes on, but as long 

1895
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,920
as Rick Pitino's coaching, 
they've got a limitless 

1896
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,080
checkbook. 
Like Mike Ripoli is going to 

1897
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,160
write whatever check Rick wants.
If Rick and Mike Ripoli said it,

1898
01:28:59,480 --> 01:29:03,000
he did the one of those, one of 
those Q&A's with Steve Serbi in 

1899
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,960
the post, a couple of the, well,
I guess it was about a month or 

1900
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,760
so ago going into the 
tournament. 

1901
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,760
And he's like, if Rick asks for 
money, I will wake up in the 

1902
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,720
middle of the night and I will 
wire the money. 

1903
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,200
So last year they were at about 
$10 million. 

1904
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,000
This year I'm here and they're 
going to go up to about 12 or 

1905
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,840
so. 
Could be thirteen, could be 15. 

1906
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,320
I mean, Kentucky, Kentucky. 
Now that a different argument is

1907
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:24,800
that's good for college 
basketball. 

1908
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,280
It's horrendous for college but 
stinks. 

1909
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,520
I mean, there's no consistency. 
It's got to be exhausting. 

1910
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:36,520
I mean, Rick is 7273 now. 
He looks great and he's always 

1911
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,800
like, I'm like a lot of times 
I'm getting ready to interview 

1912
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,520
him to do the TV show and he's 
coming off the bike. 

1913
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,200
Like Rick is he he projects 
youthfully. 

1914
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,040
Thank God. 
He's he's healthy. 

1915
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,320
You know, he's keeps himself in 
shape. 

1916
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,280
He's thin, like 
cardiovascularly. 

1917
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,600
He's he, he's very energetic and
all that stuff. 

1918
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,600
He's got great energy just in 
terms of how he talks. 

1919
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,480
But you're still 7273. 
It's not going to be doing this 

1920
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,400
for 10 years. 
And I'll tell you, man, to be a 

1921
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,840
college coach, I don't care how 
much money you're getting. 

1922
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,480
It's a different job. 
And I know money does change a 

1923
01:30:07,480 --> 01:30:10,640
lot, but it does strip away at 
the enjoyment, in the enjoyment,

1924
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,840
especially somebody. 
And Rick is renowned for this, 

1925
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,320
but there's others too. 
Maybe not quite to Rick's level,

1926
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,520
but if you're a guy who's known 
for player development, you know

1927
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,640
your best work is going to be 
all right. 

1928
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,800
You bring in the freshman, play 
789 minutes the game, but you 

1929
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,120
really like them. 
You know, toughen them up, get 

1930
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,880
him in the weight room, teach 
him the system, come back as a 

1931
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,800
SOB more like Donovan Mitchell 
at Louisville. 

1932
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,280
That's the story that everybody 
points to in terms of his. 

1933
01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:35,560
But there's many others. 
Silva. 

1934
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,240
There's many others with Rick. 
Billy Donovan back in the day 

1935
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,240
with Providence, he was chubby. 
He was slow. 

1936
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:43,200
Rick slimmed them out, got him 
to the final four and 87. 

1937
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,560
Bill Billy a great back then 
saying something Big East 

1938
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,240
player, but now it's like you 
don't really get that at all 

1939
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,360
because outside of Zubi who 
played 5 minutes at Kansas and 

1940
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,920
then he did what he did is 
eventually the next three years 

1941
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,360
at Saint John's player of the 
year in the conference, Kareem 

1942
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,640
Abdul Jabbar award winner, best 
big man in the in the in the in 

1943
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,880
the country. 
So the point is that like Rick's

1944
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,360
greatest strength is 
marginalized because he just 

1945
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,680
doesn't get the time and he 
loves that. 

1946
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,480
Like he actually works out with 
them. 

1947
01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:14,240
I don't know if you guys know 
this, but I can tell you maybe 

1948
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,360
some other teams do this. 
Most don't. 

1949
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,240
St. 
John's, they had their team 

1950
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:23,320
practice, say at 3:30 and in the
morning they've got, I think 

1951
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,800
it's 45 or 50 minute individual 
workouts. 

1952
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,240
The guards come in, then the 
forwards come in, then the other

1953
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,920
bigs come in. 
And it's literally attention to 

1954
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,520
detail specific to the position 
and it's advanced stuff and Rick

1955
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,920
is in the middle of it all. 
So as long as Rick's got the 

1956
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:44,440
energy and as long as Rick's got
the bank, do not worry about St.

1957
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:44,880
John's. 
St. 

1958
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:45,880
John's. 
I think St. 

1959
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,720
John's because their backcourt's
going to be so much better. 

1960
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,840
I think St. 
John's will be better next year,

1961
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,440
even though Zoobie's going to be
gone with. 

1962
01:31:54,440 --> 01:31:56,440
States There we go. 
Yeah, no, I mean, they'll be 

1963
01:31:56,440 --> 01:31:59,600
able to bring some guys in. 
All right, We've got a we've got

1964
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,800
a line. 
Yeah, we've got a line of 

1965
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,000
callers right here. 
All right, man, how many we got 

1966
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,640
here? 
Let's bang out, I'd say about 

1967
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,920
the. 5. 
So I mean, keep those up. 

1968
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:12,440
No more, no more new ones. 
So. 

1969
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:14,960
No more new. 
Ones no we'll hit these we'll 

1970
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,000
we'll hit these all right get 
them up let me see what we got 

1971
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,880
there Jay. 
I got to be honest, this has 

1972
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,320
worked out very smoothly here. 
I I wasn't sure, but it's been 

1973
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,280
well, as I say that way I get to
see the egg, the whatever avatar

1974
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:30,480
that was Tommy is in Apex NC. 
I I've been to Carolina bunch. 

1975
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:33,520
Where in the world is Apex? 
Give me what major city is it 

1976
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,000
next to? 
I don't know the answer to that.

1977
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,560
It's about 20 miles South of 
Raleigh. 

1978
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,000
Got it. 
All right, that's good country 

1979
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,080
out there. 
What's happening, buddy? 

1980
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,440
Welcome to Unleash. 
What do you got? 

1981
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:45,600
Thank you, buddy. 
Yeah, big, big fan of yours. 

1982
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,120
Just want to bring it back to 
the draft. 

1983
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:52,000
I'm a big Giants fan, so talking
before about the Giants trading 

1984
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,480
Dexter Lawrence, I'm I'm fully 
for that. 

1985
01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:57,920
I, I, I think though, probably 
going to have to get a 27 first 

1986
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,840
round draft pick as opposed to a
26. 

1987
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,000
I'm thinking. 
So I'm just wondering if back 

1988
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:08,640
even the first pick at #5 you 
know, to build up 27 capital and

1989
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,800
then just trying to make a Big X
offseason, you know, with the 

1990
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,280
with, with the draft. 
Yeah, how this team plays out. 

1991
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,040
Well, let me let me throw this 
at your top. 

1992
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:19,240
I don't mean to interrupt you 
there. 

1993
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:20,760
I want to, I don't want to lose 
this thought here. 

1994
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:25,280
To me, it really depends on how 
patient you and you sound fairly

1995
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:26,880
patient. 
You want to punch the 27 with 

1996
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,600
the picks, which I think is a 
good philosophy. 

1997
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,040
Like there are some Giant fans 
who are like, I want to win. 

1998
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,520
And I get it. 
We all want to win now. 

1999
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,080
But like, I'm thinking bigger 
pitch with horribaugh and with 

2000
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,680
dart and neighbors and a better 
old line and some, you know, 

2001
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,920
sprinkled in some player like 
the Giants will be a little bit 

2002
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,880
better this year just because 
they're gonna have much better 

2003
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,160
coaching. 
But it seems like you're OK with

2004
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:50,800
a more gradual, like more 
effective plotted out rebuild 

2005
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,320
rather than going for everything
this year. 

2006
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:53,800
Is. 
Is that an accurate depiction of

2007
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,000
what you're thinking #1? 
It is, yes. 

2008
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,640
OK, I think that that's smart. 
I don't know why though. 

2009
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,160
You couldn't get a number one 
and it's going to be, you know, 

2010
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,040
middle, first round late. 
You're not getting I don't think

2011
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,560
inside the top 17 or so. 
So probably in the 20s if you 

2012
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,440
could find somebody. 
But why wouldn't you want the 

2013
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:11,640
pick now? 
Why don't you think they could 

2014
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,520
do it now? 
You got six days to the draft. 

2015
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,360
He wants out. 
Giants want a certain a certain 

2016
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,400
price point so they're willing 
to trade him and he wants out. 

2017
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,440
So why can't you get a? 
Why can't you make a trade 

2018
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:24,560
before next Thursday? 
Yeah, like I said, I think, I 

2019
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,080
think the thought is just build 
for a long term rather than just

2020
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,360
immediate and with what everyone
projecting that the 27 draft 

2021
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,080
will be so much deeper at all 
the positions. 

2022
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,400
You know, I know you never know,
but you know that that's. 

2023
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,120
Exactly. 
That's the biggest draft, a 

2024
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,040
bigger draft than this one. 
Then kind of build your assets. 

2025
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,800
You'll still get somebody if 
you, especially if you move back

2026
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,320
off the first pick that they 
have in this one, you know, get 

2027
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,480
somebody maybe 5 to 10 and still
pick up like that, that corner 

2028
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,920
or pick or or if downs drops to 
10, you know, kind of pick 

2029
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,840
somebody up, feel good and then 
build up your assets. 

2030
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,040
Give Harbaugh another season to 
kind of go through what he has. 

2031
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,800
And then this way when we see 
how much a team changes for next

2032
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,640
season, you know, build from 
there. 

2033
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,560
Yep. 
I like it. 

2034
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:13,880
I think that's a good 
philosophy. 

2035
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,360
There you go, Tommy. 
Appreciate the call. 

2036
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,600
Have a good weekend, Tommy, out 
in North Carolina. 

2037
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,520
Thank you. 
Yeah, I mean, think about this. 

2038
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,720
Like, to me, there's a few 
elements at play here anytime 

2039
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,600
that you enter a, a either 
disjointed or moribund losing 

2040
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,400
situation, like, like the Giants
have been. 

2041
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,880
And that's what John Horrible's 
inheriting. 

2042
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:37,160
The difference is he's coming in
with 1/4, unlike Aaron Glenn and

2043
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,320
some others, he's coming up with
a quarterback that we all think 

2044
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,480
if he stays healthy is going to 
be phenomenal. 

2045
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:45,160
I, I mean, I can't tell you how 
much I love Jackson Thorne. 

2046
01:35:45,440 --> 01:35:48,920
I love him, right? 
But even with that and, and 

2047
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,880
neighbors and some other things 
that we all like it, but you 

2048
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,240
know, scatterball, hopefully 
it's going to be OK. 

2049
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,320
He should be. 
But the the first year is 

2050
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,640
generally generally like an 
evaluation of like, all right, 

2051
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:06,200
there's six to eight guys that 
we like, but I don't know if we 

2052
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,040
want to really marry him. 
Let's see him play for a year. 

2053
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,840
Let's see what their practice 
habits are. 

2054
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,600
Let's see how they are in film. 
Let's see, are they a good 

2055
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,240
teammate? 
Are they buying into what John 

2056
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,680
Harbaugh is doing? 
And if they do, then they stay. 

2057
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,080
And if they don't, then they're 
gone. 

2058
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,760
So the first year is going to be
a little bit of a balance of 

2059
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,880
that, but but also trying to 
collect some assets and and also

2060
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,600
put out a more formidable team, 
which I think they'll be able to

2061
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,320
do. 
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that's, 

2062
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,400
that's a pretty good thought. 
Guy J pop up the next one. 

2063
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,600
What do you got? 
You've got Benji from the Upper 

2064
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,080
East. 
Upper East Side. 

2065
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,680
Benji in the house, a little 
Manhattan. 

2066
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,600
Benji. 
Welcome to unleash. 

2067
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,640
What's up, Benji? 
Thanks BT I appreciate it man. 

2068
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,240
First off, JJ has become a buddy
of mine. 

2069
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,000
I was on his pod in July. 
Anthony Donnie, he's been my 

2070
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:57,280
buddy since 2009 when we we 
linked up at a Knicks Wizards 

2071
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,480
game at the disgraceful Verizon 
Center back when Al Harrington 

2072
01:37:01,480 --> 01:37:02,680
was sitting out injured that 
game. 

2073
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,760
So he he we go way back. 
Anyway, I. 

2074
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:05,360
I see. 
Wait. 

2075
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:06,040
Hey, now. 
Hold on. 

2076
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,000
Hold on. 
Now. 

2077
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:08,880
Now, Rice Bowl. 
I've known Donahue. 

2078
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:13,000
I love him. 
Just just just got down on his 

2079
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,320
knee the other day. 
I saw that he's became a dad. 

2080
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,560
I love him. 
He's a great person. 

2081
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,760
I I I knew his sister Gianna 
pretty well. 

2082
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:22,520
Like, I would see her a lot when
she was little. 

2083
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,080
I love everything about rice 
balls. 

2084
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,960
He's just a great person and a 
great, great nick guy. 

2085
01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:30,040
And Jji got to get JJ on the 
show. 

2086
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,560
JJ is a dude, man. 
So JJ was next to me. 

2087
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,120
Did you hear that? 
You heard the story when 

2088
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,440
Francesa almost killed me with 
the golf ball when I was. 

2089
01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:38,880
Playing when? 
I was playing OK, me, Sal and 

2090
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:43,440
and JJ JJ was a foot away from 
me and and JJ is a trip man. 

2091
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:47,480
I love his energy, love sports, 
great guy, good guy to play golf

2092
01:37:47,480 --> 01:37:49,880
with fun. 
So those are two good name drops

2093
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:51,080
now what do you got there, 
Bench? 

2094
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:52,920
I appreciate it, man. 
Yeah. 

2095
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,880
Well, I also want to say I've 
been following basically since 

2096
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,200
you've been doing shows in 
December and it's been awesome 

2097
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,600
to see the the ascension of 
everything that you've done to 

2098
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,440
get to this point. 
Thank you. 

2099
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,680
The the Knicks in my life in 
addition to my to my friends and

2100
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:06,560
my family. 
My. 

2101
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,440
Friends, I've been a 117 in the 
last 139, not including pre 

2102
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:12,800
season. 
I think it's really refreshing 

2103
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,400
to go into these series like 
this series. 

2104
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,880
We go into the series with a 
clear advantage and a clear 

2105
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,360
weapon and cat now you know, I'm
like the biggest cat fan there 

2106
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,440
is. 
I wear #32 on my back at every 

2107
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:26,720
game. 
And I, and I know you've had, 

2108
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:30,880
you've taken issue with him a 
couple months ago, but I do want

2109
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:35,920
to say that I do think, I mean, 
I want to see, I'm so wrapped up

2110
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:37,960
for tomorrow, but I want 
obviously we'll be there. 

2111
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,400
I want to see him get the ball. 
I know this isn't going to 

2112
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:41,960
happen, but he's got to get the 
ball. 

2113
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,360
The 1st four or five 
possessions. 

2114
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,360
We got to make Atlanta work. 
We got to make them scramble. 

2115
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:53,200
There's there's no possible way 
Okong who can guard him at 6:10 

2116
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:57,640
and even from the backup 
standpoint, because Landale's 

2117
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,920
injured, they have Tony Bradley,
who I probably have better 

2118
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,080
players on my on my Urban League
team than Tony Bradley. 

2119
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,160
So I'm not scared at all about 
anything that I think Cats can 

2120
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,360
absolutely dominate and I think 
Mitch is going to have an 

2121
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,040
incredible series as well. 
So I'm super excited and and I 

2122
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:15,400
wanted to get your thoughts on 
this as well. 

2123
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,800
Have you ever I in my 
experience, I was born in 81. 

2124
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,120
I'm not sure I've ever seen a 
New York sports team have this 

2125
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:26,560
much pressure on them going into
a playoff run than this current 

2126
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:32,400
team has given what's at stake 
with the coach, Foster just 

2127
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,200
knowing, just knowing where the 
various players are, like 

2128
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,640
Bridges is 29, Cats 30, Hearts 
31, Brunson is 29. 

2129
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,920
All these guys are at like the 
end of their prime or like just 

2130
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,160
getting to the point where you 
got to look at like early 30s 

2131
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,600
and you know what that means. 
So just want to get your take on

2132
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,280
that. 
But super revved up, man. 

2133
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,240
Let's wrap this series up and 
let's keep moving, man. 

2134
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:53,960
We got to get this title. 
Let's go. 

2135
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:55,200
Hi, Benji. 
Great call. 

2136
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:56,800
Checking in from Manhattan. 
Thank you very much. 

2137
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:58,040
Benji. 
I appreciate you making that 

2138
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:58,880
call, dude. 
Thank you. 

2139
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,680
I also wanted to say I think I 
threw this out here. 

2140
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,400
One of the things that I do is I
take a different person sits 

2141
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,040
with me every game. 
OK. 

2142
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:11,200
So JJ went to a game with me 
against Orlando early in, yeah, 

2143
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:12,680
November. 
We lost, actually. 

2144
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:14,400
So I don't know if JJ is invited
back. 

2145
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,040
I'm just kidding, but. 
I'm a good luck charm. 

2146
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,440
I bring some wins. 
Well, let me let me know if 

2147
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:23,200
you're down to down to come and 
to one of these games I'll send 

2148
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,360
I'll shoot you a note. 
We take it day by day but I'm 

2149
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,320
obviously going with my wife 
tomorrow but as this is going to

2150
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,520
be a long run and going to take 
us into June so just let me know

2151
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,680
and we'll get it locked in bro 
no. 

2152
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,360
Question. 
That's really generous, man. 

2153
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:38,720
I might take you up on that, 
Benji. 

2154
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,920
We, we, we, we might have to 
link up on this dude. 

2155
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:42,880
Thank you for the call. 
Let's go mix. 

2156
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,440
No doubt about that. 
Appreciate it. 

2157
01:40:44,440 --> 01:40:48,280
Yeah, Benji checking in. 
So, you know his last. 

2158
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,320
Now, the cat stuff I don't fully
agree with. 

2159
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:54,680
Obviously, he's a massive cat 
fan, a massive cat supporter 

2160
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,280
believer. 
I mean, I'm rooting for him and 

2161
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,360
I know he's talented. 
I don't believe in him nearly as

2162
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,400
much as Benji does, but but 
that's what makes the world 

2163
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,640
spin. 
I do agree with the point about 

2164
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,440
getting them engaged early. 
I think that that's important. 

2165
01:41:06,440 --> 01:41:08,240
I think the one thing that 
worries me from a defensive 

2166
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,040
point of view, and I mentioned 
this earlier in the show, Dyson 

2167
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,480
Daniels is 6/7 and 1/2 and he's 
going to really run at Bronson 

2168
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:17,240
quite a bit, which is going to 
give him a different look and 

2169
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,840
could frustrate him. 
Are you talking, you know, 3-4 

2170
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:23,240
inches taller and, and a good 
defender and they were good 

2171
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,280
rebounding team. 
Their offense isn't great. 

2172
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,720
They're pretty good defensive 
team, Although I I do think 

2173
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,120
there's an advantageous matchup 
and and Benji reference this in 

2174
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,120
the middle for cat now. 
I'd like to see him get the ball

2175
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,280
early. 
Not that you force it, but I'm 

2176
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,360
I'm a believer that, especially 
when there's somebody who's so 

2177
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:44,840
important, but tends to 
fluctuate in terms of usage 

2178
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,240
rate. 
Get him engaged early, man. 

2179
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:48,920
Get him an easy open look for 
three. 

2180
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,240
Get him something at the rim. 
Nothing's going to post up like 

2181
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,440
Patrick, but get him in a 
favorable matchup baseline, a 

2182
01:41:54,440 --> 01:41:57,200
little jump shot, foul line, 
extended work that pick and 

2183
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,320
roll, which has been more and 
more evident as the years gone 

2184
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,320
on, which gives me some 
confidence that Knicks could go 

2185
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,440
on a deep run here. 
But his main point that I agree 

2186
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:07,760
with is that there's going to be
no one between. 

2187
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,200
That's how I started the show. 
It's either going to be 

2188
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,400
euphoric. 
You know, Knicks get to the NBA 

2189
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,800
Finals and and win. 
And even if they don't, it would

2190
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,560
still be unpacked as as a 
terrific year took another step.

2191
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,120
You know, probably lost to a 
better Thunder team, whatever it

2192
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,240
might because they match up well
with Denver if it's Denver. 

2193
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,200
But I don't want to get put the 
cart too far in front of the 

2194
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,000
horse here. 
But euphoria or it's going to be

2195
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,200
a Wrecking Ball because Mike 
Brown's going to be gone. 

2196
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,440
Cat's going to be gone. 
Maybe Bridges is gone. 

2197
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:38,200
So, yeah, this and his point 
about, and I don't think it's 

2198
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:39,880
hyperbolic. 
I think he's on to something 

2199
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,840
like when he talks about this 
being like the most pressure 

2200
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,760
that a New York sports team has 
faced going into a playoff. 

2201
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,640
He said he was born in 81. 
Yeah. 

2202
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,120
I mean, really think about this 
like the Yankees didn't have a 

2203
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:53,960
ton of press, not many 
championships. 

2204
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,600
So you could start with a short 
list. 

2205
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:00,000
But like the 96 championship for
the Yankees that that Braves, 

2206
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,880
they had an all time pitching 
staff, Maddox, Smoltz, the 

2207
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:08,240
Avery, even Glavin, of course, 
Bobby Cox, Hall of Fame manager.

2208
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,800
Jeez, you have players 
everywhere and the Yankees beat 

2209
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,640
them, but there wasn't pressure.
You know, maybe when they fell 

2210
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,960
behind O2 and George went into 
Dory's office like what's going 

2211
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:17,840
on? 
He's like, hey, we're going to 

2212
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:19,440
win the next three. 
We're going to we'll probably 

2213
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:21,440
lose tonight as well. 
He's did that after game one. 

2214
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:23,560
Joe, what's going on? 
Yeah, I hear you, George. 

2215
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,240
We're probably going to lose 
tonight as well. 

2216
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,680
I'm going to go down to Atlanta,
win three straight, come back 

2217
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,320
and win it in Game 6, which is 
what happened. 

2218
01:43:29,480 --> 01:43:32,960
But there wasn't palpable 
pressure because the Yankees the

2219
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,240
the year before had made the 
wild card and that was exciting 

2220
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,480
and they hadn't been in the 
playoffs in a while. 94, there 

2221
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:40,680
was no World Series. 
So and then, but they had a 

2222
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,440
really good team. 
And then just by getting to the 

2223
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:48,520
World Series in 96, the the 
pressure was kind of off because

2224
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,600
it was Joe's first year. 
I the only other thing that 

2225
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,840
really jumps out, I mean, yeah, 
even Carmelo's 54 win season 

2226
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,920
with Woodson and those guys. 
No, I don't know. 

2227
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,120
I'm not really. 
Maybe don't you have to look at 

2228
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,440
the 2000 Subway Series? 
I mean, Derek Jeter always says 

2229
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:05,200
he's like it, it really wasn't 
enjoyable. 

2230
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:08,320
Like we had to win. 
Like there's no way, especially 

2231
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:12,640
then when you were so far or I'm
so much closer to the dynasty. 

2232
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:16,160
969899. 
If the Yankees would have lost 

2233
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,600
to the Mets, who had different 
ownership, didn't have the 

2234
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,680
profile, even though they stink 
so far this year. 

2235
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,600
But you know, the the Mets have 
a different perception about 

2236
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,880
them since Cohen bought them 
back then. 

2237
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,440
You know, even though they had 
good players, Piazza was great, 

2238
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:30,800
couple of really, really good 
players. 

2239
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,560
But it's just that like they 
just couldn't shine the Yankees 

2240
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,080
shoes. 
Like the Yankees were beast and 

2241
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:38,040
the Mets were scrappy and had 
some talented players. 

2242
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:39,920
I'm not trying to disparage you,
but it was a different 

2243
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,360
evaluation. 
And if they would have lost that

2244
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,400
to the Mets, not that I don't 
think there was as much pressure

2245
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:46,680
on the Mets. 
I mean, if the Mets beat the 

2246
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,120
Yankees, forget about it. 
Like that would have been the 

2247
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,360
culmination and take over the 
city like they did in 86 and 

2248
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,160
Mets fans would be thumping 
their chest and you know it. 

2249
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,360
It would be think about it this 
way, like the Mets lose, all 

2250
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,680
right, whatever happened 
happened. 

2251
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,000
If the Yankees would have lost 
that, George would have lost his

2252
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,040
mind. 
And Jeter even spoke to that. 

2253
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,680
He's like, it really wasn't fun.
The pressure. 

2254
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,120
He's like, we would have lost to
the Mets, but we couldn't show 

2255
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,040
our face. 
So outside of that, like even 

2256
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:17,000
the Rangers with, you know, with
with Henrik Lundquist, I mean, 

2257
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,960
there was pressure to get him a 
championship, but they never had

2258
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,240
the offense around them. 
Too many times he had to just 

2259
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,760
stand on his head and you know, 
3538 saves. 

2260
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,920
I mean, win 1, nothing, lose 1, 
nothing, win 2, nothing. 

2261
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,840
You get an empty net gold. 
I mean, but every game was nip 

2262
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,920
and tuck. 
So it wouldn't be the Rangers, 

2263
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,960
not the Islanders. 
You know, since the early 80s 

2264
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,040
with the four, you know, Devils 
have a couple of the 

2265
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,840
championships, obviously, but 
not that pretty. 

2266
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:44,200
No, you might be right. 
You, I think you frame that 

2267
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,560
really, really well. 
I would agree. 

2268
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,720
All right, last call or. 
Two more. 

2269
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,640
Yeah, Last call, it's Evan at 
the Pinstripe Bugle calling in 

2270
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,880
from C. 
Oh, good, good. 

2271
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,960
Yeah, I know Evan follows be on 
Instagram and he pops in a lot 

2272
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,160
and he follows the show and he's
got his own content. 

2273
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:03,880
Evan, welcome to Unleash buddy. 
What's going on, man? 

2274
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,640
How we doing BT Thank you so 
much for having me. 

2275
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,240
My pleasure. 
I like your work. 

2276
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,680
You guys are doing good stuff. 
Yeah, I appreciate you very 

2277
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:11,840
much. 
I'm a huge fan. 

2278
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,040
I love seeing Unleashed 
everyday, You know, you know, 

2279
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,360
then take that next step, 2 
quick points. 

2280
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:22,360
That'll be really quick for you.
When you were talking about how 

2281
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,360
you know the Yankees should make
a move for, you know, that kind 

2282
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:29,320
of impact player like Mike 
Trout, I totally agree with you,

2283
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,040
but I don't think it's a player 
like Trout you. 

2284
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,840
Know his. 
Age and his injury history in 

2285
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,160
that contract is something that 
could cripple the whole team. 

2286
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:39,720
You know if there is a salary 
cap. 

2287
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,280
OK, OK, now, now, now, I would 
almost guess that the name 

2288
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:44,640
you're going to give me is 
Tatis. 

2289
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,120
To be honest with you, I don't 
know if there is a name out 

2290
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:49,640
there right now that a team 
would give up. 

2291
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,440
And I think that's why my next 
kind of point was we're kind of 

2292
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:55,200
stuck, you know, the landscape 
of the league. 

2293
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:59,360
Not I don't see many teams 
making moves of that caliber 

2294
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,440
with the unwillingness to know 
what's going into next season. 

2295
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,200
And that's what scares me about,
you know, this year. 

2296
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:11,320
Yeah, man, I mean, it's yeah, I 
mean, there's a lot of fiscal 

2297
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,200
uncertainty for next year. 
Listen, Evan, if I own the 

2298
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,080
Yankees, I would just say screw 
it, man. 

2299
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,400
You know, I'll deal with the the
work stoppage, the new CB. 

2300
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,440
I'll deal with that when I got a
deal with it. 

2301
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,400
I'm going out there and I'm 
getting my man, somebody who who

2302
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:27,880
I know could bat in front of 
them or really behind them. 

2303
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:32,240
And, and, and it is, is an elite
superstar, whatever it takes, 

2304
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,560
whoever you got to give up 
outside of Lombard and 

2305
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,480
Schlittler, take anybody else in
the system. 

2306
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:39,560
And there's some good young arms
as you know, take them like I, 

2307
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,640
I, I, I know you had Soto for a 
year and you got to the World 

2308
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:46,160
Series and Judge had some 
moments that we're not good, but

2309
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,760
you just like, you can't keep 
half stepping it. 

2310
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,760
They've got to go all in and, 
and but they're not going to 

2311
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,120
like we've screamed about this 
forever. 

2312
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,560
I'm just telling you what I 
would do now. 

2313
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,000
The way the Padres looked early 
in the year, I'm like, maybe 

2314
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,200
Tatis could be an option here 
because they looked awful. 

2315
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:03,880
They're as hot as anybody. 
They're on. 

2316
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:05,120
A Eater. 
Oh, man. 

2317
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,320
They're playing really, really 
crisp. 

2318
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,440
Good, fun, exciting. 
And they've got a lot of good 

2319
01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:12,560
players, so it's not a surprise.
Younger electric players. 

2320
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,640
But like, you know, if like if 
they were languishing, I'd be 

2321
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:17,760
like, OK, that that's definitely
a target. 

2322
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:19,960
But they're playing well and 
they're going to be a playoff 

2323
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,000
team, you know, so they might 
win 95 to 100 games. 

2324
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,640
So it's not going to be Tatis. 
The Angels aren't going to be as

2325
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,160
bad as they've been, I don't 
think the last couple of years. 

2326
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,480
And Trout is obviously the hero 
out there in in Anaheim. 

2327
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:34,680
So they're probably reluctant to
get rid of them the one year 

2328
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,920
that they're competitive. 
But you got to hope that that 

2329
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,000
turns. 
And if it doesn't, I don't 

2330
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,520
really know who that player is. 
But this team right now, it's 

2331
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,640
not a World Series team. 
I mean, it's just not, you know,

2332
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,160
that's not. 
No, it's not it. 

2333
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:47,160
It's. 
Not they've got a lot of. 

2334
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:51,920
Flaws and it just stinks. 
I think their organization 

2335
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,200
philosophy, you could see it 
change over the last five years.

2336
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:59,000
You know, they made the move for
Soto, but they were kind of 

2337
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,160
pigeonholed into that move. 
You know, coming off a year 

2338
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,040
where they missed the playoffs, 
they kind of had to make that 

2339
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,560
move to get their fan base back 
where they wanted them to fill, 

2340
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,520
you know, to fill the seats. 
But I just don't see them making

2341
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,840
that, you know, that crazy move 
that will get fans roaring, you 

2342
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:16,160
know, for the World Series 
again. 

2343
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,160
But I mean it, you know, they've
been really working on the 

2344
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:20,800
margins. 
And that was kind of to my next 

2345
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,080
point. 
If you're going to operate on 

2346
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:24,960
the margins. 
And, you know, in the past, they

2347
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,720
have put together really good 
bullpens and they and they find,

2348
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:30,840
you know, something out of 
nothing. 

2349
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,440
But they fired a lot of their 
back end bullpen coaches this 

2350
01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:36,440
offseason and they brought in a 
lot of new guys. 

2351
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,920
So it makes me wonder if they're
going to be able to kind of 

2352
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,600
capture, you know, that 
lightning from someone who's had

2353
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,960
a rough career. 
So far, they haven't been able 

2354
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,640
to do it. 
Jake Burton sent down should be 

2355
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:49,080
he, you know, yesterday didn't 
look good again. 

2356
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,560
Gary De Los Santos they sent 
back down to the minors. 

2357
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,240
He stinks. 
That that bullpen, you know, has

2358
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:55,480
always been a strong suit for 
them. 

2359
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,040
And if it's not a strong suit, 
then it's going to be a really 

2360
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:01,240
long season for this team. 
It's one of the things Evan and 

2361
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,320
thanks for the call man. 
Thank you for the for the call. 

2362
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,040
Thanks for the support. 
Appreciate you have a good 

2363
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,200
weekend. 
Thank you for making that call. 

2364
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:11,120
The one of the it's crazy 
because bullpens really the most

2365
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:15,880
by far volatile position in all 
of baseball. 

2366
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,360
I mean it really is. 
I'm not saying that there aren't

2367
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,080
starting pitchers who get, you 
know, big contract and they fall

2368
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:24,280
apart or whatever. 
But year to year, like, you 

2369
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,560
know, one guy's like look at 
Luke Weaver. 

2370
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:27,960
I don't I don't count Devin 
Williams. 

2371
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,320
It's too early and he he was too
great for too long. 

2372
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,480
So I got to see more evidence 
that, you know, he's he should 

2373
01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:37,800
be fine for the Mets this year. 
We've run know about Weaver, but

2374
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,640
think about Luke Weaver. 
He went from he became the 

2375
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:46,080
closer when Holmes lost the job 
and pitched in the World Series 

2376
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,840
and had a great year, Not a 
great World Series, but had a 

2377
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,720
great year. 
And now, you know, I mean, if 

2378
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,560
this keeps up, he's going to be 
an afterthought. 

2379
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,880
And I mean, if he keep this 
keeps up, he's going to be DF 8,

2380
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,000
you know, at some point. 
So you did just a lot of 

2381
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,960
volatility in the relief market.
And it's crazy because as much 

2382
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,720
as we complain about the 
Yankees, whether it's developing

2383
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:09,280
position players or not, going 
the extra mile and getting Judge

2384
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:13,320
a couple of real, real true 
sticks and stars to give him a 

2385
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,840
real chance, like Reggie had 
with Thurman and that cast of 

2386
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:20,040
characters and Derek and Bernie 
and those guys had together with

2387
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,680
that cast of characters and 
obviously 09 with Jeets and a 

2388
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:27,920
rod and Swish and those bats and
Toshira in his prime switch 

2389
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,640
hitting first baseman goal 
Glover. 

2390
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,400
Like, you know, it's just not 
the same barometer for Aaron 

2391
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:33,920
Judge. 
Aaron Judge is better than all 

2392
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,240
those players I just mentioned 
every one of them. 

2393
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:37,480
He's better than every one of 
them. 

2394
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,480
And he's had the worst 
circumstances. 

2395
01:51:39,480 --> 01:51:43,240
So it's unfair, but it is what 
it is. 

2396
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,960
And until it changes, it's not 
going to change. 

2397
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:51,080
You know, J Rod, I got to tell 
you, my friend, I woke up and 

2398
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,200
I'm like, let let let's see how 
this is going to go. 

2399
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:58,520
Let's roll this out, you know, 
and Yeah, well, I yeah, I I get 

2400
01:51:58,520 --> 01:51:59,400
it. 
Because you have a lot more 

2401
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,280
responsibility than me in terms 
of getting all this stuff 

2402
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,160
functioning. 
First of all, awesome job, dude.

2403
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:05,440
Way to nail it. 
Thank you. 

2404
01:52:05,480 --> 01:52:09,040
Yeah. 
No, Yeah, dude, I feel like, 

2405
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,000
well, First off, I felt like I 
was like an octopus right there.

2406
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,720
I was like just doing 
everything. 

2407
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,200
But dude, that went so much 
better. 

2408
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,880
Like I thought we were about to 
get, Oh my God, I thought we 

2409
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:22,960
were about to get someone coming
on saying something wild. 

2410
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:25,160
I like. 
Oh, no, that's going to happen 

2411
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:26,680
at some point. 
Here's what's. 

2412
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,000
Yeah, no, it worked for today. 
There's some, there's of course 

2413
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,000
somebody's going to try to troll
or a clown. 

2414
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,600
And that's where we just clip 
them and we just keep moving 

2415
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,960
like whatever, you know. 
Yeah, you, you seem like you've 

2416
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:41,800
got the amount of stress. 
Since it is a Friday, maybe you 

2417
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,360
start early, go out, take a 
little vape, do a little walk 

2418
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,920
and get the mind nice and clear 
right there, right, Right. 

2419
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:48,400
All. 
Right, see, it's funny that you 

2420
01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:50,680
said that because I was 
literally all I could think to 

2421
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,080
myself was Oh my God. 
It was like yo, this episode 

2422
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,240
makes a dude need to crack a 
beer. 

2423
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,560
Something adjacent. 
There we go, there we go. 

2424
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:02,800
Well, I thought it was a 
resounding success. 

2425
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,320
It's something I've had my eye 
and our eye on for a while. 

2426
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,080
I thought that we would maybe 
get it implemented a little bit 

2427
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,080
earlier, but didn't want to rush
it, wanted to do it the right 

2428
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,280
way. 
And here we are, the first show 

2429
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,480
where we took calls and we 
probably took about 10 or 12 of 

2430
01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:19,400
them. 
And the calls were thoughtful. 

2431
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,200
I can give you a little more 
time to talk. 

2432
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:25,280
Obviously, you know, less, no 
restraints really, but certainly

2433
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,920
a little different from 
terrestrial radio. 

2434
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,640
So I think this will be great 
for the channel. 

2435
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,760
I'm I'm so pumped up, proud of 
you, you know, juggling all that

2436
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,240
stuff. 
No, nobody could see what you 

2437
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,360
were doing, but I know that it 
was a lot. 

2438
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,400
So let me know real quick. 
So we got to be you and I have 

2439
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,520
to record something after you, 
as you know, for next week. 

2440
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:42,680
We got to do some more work 
here. 

2441
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,120
What do you got cooking on the 
weekend? 

2442
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:45,840
Any dates, any music? 
What do we? 

2443
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,320
What do we got, Jay? 
Honestly, it's an open book, The

2444
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,760
red, you know, as Natasha 
Benningfield said, Listen, the 

2445
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:55,240
rest is unwritten, but I vow to 
make it a good weekend. 

2446
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,320
That's it. 
Like after this, I got to get 

2447
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,040
lit tonight. 
We got to have a good weekend. 

2448
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:00,680
We got to have. 
Some fun. 

2449
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,280
That's it. 
That's my vow. 

2450
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,680
Literally is just have a good 
weekend. 

2451
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,560
I love it. 
That's a good mantra. 

2452
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,080
I might have to do the same 
thing now tonight. 

2453
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,560
I mean, jeez, last week at this 
time, I thought I was going out 

2454
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,680
to Melville and you know, it was
2 1/2 hours away. 

2455
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:18,760
And then, you know, played a 
game at 2:00 and then they 

2456
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,040
didn't play again till 6:00 and 
then we got home at midnight 

2457
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,280
basically. 
Then he had to play 10:00 the 

2458
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,480
next morning and they won that. 
Then they had to, then they had 

2459
01:54:25,480 --> 01:54:28,120
to wait for another game to 
finish, then another game, then 

2460
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,280
they played again. 
Then they won. 

2461
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,080
Then they played the 
championship, which they lost, 

2462
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,920
which was a great baseball 
weekend. 

2463
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,760
Little different for me. 
All right, so this weekend, 

2464
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:41,400
tonight, he's got a game for 
travel, and I don't coach this 

2465
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,280
team, so I never drink at these 
games. 

2466
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,200
I might pour a little Yeti, you 
know, a little soda, maybe a 

2467
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,920
little splash or something. 
Nothing crazy. 

2468
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:50,560
Just sit out there, spit some 
seeds. 

2469
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,120
Beautiful night, right field. 
Got my nice chair. 

2470
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,480
One of those really, you know, 
you, if you watch games, you 

2471
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,240
know, the kind of chair like 
it's, it's awesome, right? 

2472
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:00,800
That kind of chair. 
And then tomorrow his game's 

2473
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,360
not. 
My daughter played last night. 

2474
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,120
She doesn't have any games. 
She pitched. 

2475
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,560
She actually pitched. 
And she'd been begging me to get

2476
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,320
out there and pitch and pitch 
and, you know, pitching 

2477
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,920
underhand, you know, I mean, 
learning how to pitch is, is 

2478
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,640
hard for anybody. 
Boy, girl, baseball, softball, 

2479
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:19,120
you know, she's 9 and she's been
showing this, this real desire 

2480
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:21,280
to pitch. 
And she got out there last 

2481
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:24,120
night, walked a couple girls cuz
struck a couple girls out. 

2482
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:26,720
They won. 
She didn't start because we have

2483
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,840
a stud who's a year older, but 
she got out on the mound. 

2484
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,840
I was so proud of her because 
that is like, you know, when you

2485
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,880
when you and she was begging to 
do it, like when you volunteer 

2486
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,720
that I want to pitch, I want to 
pitch, I want to pitch. 

2487
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:40,960
All right, now we're going to 
feed that now we're going to 

2488
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,240
work a little bit more. 
You can pitch to daddy. 

2489
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,280
We'll get you a pitching coach, 
get some lessons. 

2490
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,160
Let's go. 
She got that little perfect wind

2491
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,920
up that she sees the older girls
do it does she doesn't throw it 

2492
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:53,600
like they do yet at all. 
But so she played last night and

2493
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,600
then tomorrow his first game is 
at 2:00 and it's basically it's 

2494
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,320
in Newark. 
It's at a beautiful turf 

2495
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,040
facility. 
So yeah, I think tonight, I 

2496
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,920
think tonight might be a little 
a little celebratory mode. 

2497
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,560
Chill out a little bit myself as
well. 

2498
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,040
Next week. 
We got the draft. 

2499
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:12,200
Can't wait six days for that. 
Hey, listen, ma'am, you guys 

2500
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,680
know I appreciate you. 
This was something that I 

2501
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,440
couldn't wait to do because it 
was the thing that I felt that 

2502
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,160
was missing, you know, and there
listen, there's going to be days

2503
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,760
where you call up and we're 
getting after each other like 

2504
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:26,080
today was cordial and today with
exchanging thoughts and ideas. 

2505
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:27,720
And I'm not going to berate you.
I'm not going to be, you know, 

2506
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,760
rude to you unnecessarily, but 
there's going to be days where 

2507
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,200
you call, they try to get on my 
ass and and I bite back and 

2508
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:38,160
that's that's content. 
That's sports debate, and I 

2509
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:40,400
can't wait for that. 
So that's coming. 

2510
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,920
But today, in terms of day one 
as a success, J Rod absolutely 

2511
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:46,320
crushed it. 
Salute to him. 

2512
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:49,040
Salute to you guys. 
I want to wish everybody a happy

2513
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,840
weekend. 
Have a great happy weekend. 

2514
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:52,120
A great weekend. 
Yeah. 

2515
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:54,400
Happy holidays, Happy weekend. 
It's probably some holiday this 

2516
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,200
weekend that I don't know about 
and if there is, enjoy it. 

2517
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,080
Thanks to our sponsors, of 
course, Sullivan Papain, 

2518
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,920
remember the name Sullivan 
Papain and buy Premio foods. 

2519
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,840
So we have a lot of great things
coming as we add the sponsors, 

2520
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:10,880
added the calls, draft stuff. 
Next week on Tuesday at 8:00 PM,

2521
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:15,560
myself and Rick Simini and Jake 
Asmin as the draft descends upon

2522
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:19,320
Pittsburgh, we will do episode 
#5 of The Jets Collective. 

2523
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:21,560
So jump on that YouTube page as 
well. 

2524
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:25,000
Like it, sub it, hook it up and 
hey, get this out there. 

2525
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,760
Let your friends know, hey, you 
could call BT now, you could 

2526
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,920
call Unleashed and all the 
comments and all the likes and 

2527
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,760
all the shares. 
Trust me, that helps and enables

2528
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,280
me to do more and more and more.
So I really want to thank you 

2529
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,480
guys for that. 
It was a great experience, 

2530
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:40,480
really. 
It was awesome, man. 

2531
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,120
Have an awesome weekend, Jay. 
I will talk to you in a little 

2532
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:44,600
bit. 
Everybody else out there, be 

2533
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:48,480
safe and we'll catch you Monday.
Yanks, Mets, let's get our act 

2534
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:49,600
together here. 
Let's get going. 

2535
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:50,800
All right, have a good weekend, 
guys. 

2536
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:51,160
I'll see you.
