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Nobody. I couldn't be more excited.
I mean, here we are, you know, bringing a new element brick by
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For this, can't wait till you know, obviously here's some
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of the calls here, but this is what it's nick time, man.
It is, it is nick time. It is go time.
It is final evaluation time. There will be nothing left to
interpret, you know, whether it's, I mean, hopefully it's a
lot more than a couple of weeks here.
But if it's a month, if it's two months, like we're going to get
the answers that we've all been chasing.
Any Knick discussion this year outside of the the cup, you know
the mid season cup like the Christmas Day game when Tyler
Kolak went bonkers. You know, the most recent
change, which I really like and which makes me feel a lot better
about this Nick team the last two weeks or so, is this new
found pick and roll relationship chemistry.
What a concept. I mean between Brunson and Cat,
you got a guy who's basically 7 feet who could shoot and he got
a point guard who can handle and could also shoot.
I don't know why they weren't doing that a whole lot more
earlier in the season. But most of the Nick
conversations were really about the the direction of the team
and, you know, what would they be?
And you know, the points of contention, whether it was the
way Leon Rose set up the roster, the way Mike Brown was changing
coaching styles compared to Tom Thibodeau.
Obviously, Cat has been a lightning rod.
Even Jaylen Brunson caught a little shrapnel this year.
So we're going to get the answers.
Jay, is everything OK? You jump.
Everything's good. Everything's good.
I mean, we've I'm ready whenever you are.
We've got Jerry from Hackettstown, NJ.
He's ready, I mean. All right, I mean, he's.
Got some Yankees talk ready all. Right look at about it.
I love that listen, look at the energy from Jay.
Let me just set a couple of things pop that up in a minute
Not yet just to finish that thought.
We'll do some Yankees obviously as well.
And listen, there's probably going to be a couple of hiccups
with the calls. And if they are, we'll adjust.
We'll plow through what's all good.
So you know, when I when I say that there's going to be nothing
left to interpret for the Knicks, I mean, I, I really
don't know how else to frame it because we're going to learn
either. We're going to learn about four
people. And, and I think that there's
different degrees of pressure. I think ultimately different
levels of culpability. If the note, if the Knicks don't
go certainly as far as they went last year and hopefully beyond
getting to the NBA Finals, I think it's a little bit unfair
to expect the Knicks to win a championship.
I've been think based on the odds as well and the optics of
the season, I think it's even a little unfair to just pencil the
Knicks in to get back to where they were a year ago in the
Eastern Conference finals. But you know, if they don't go
far or at least match what they did a year ago, will now
obviously going to have to change up the the core of the
team. And that would most likely
involve Cat depending upon how he plays.
But then that also opens up and an avenue of of criticism and
further dialogue on the construction of the team by Leon
Rose. So, you know, we've talked about
the coach and the two star players a lot more than we have
Leon Rose. But you can't lose sight of what
Leon Rose did. He basically fired that one big
bullet. And we know he brought in
Mikhail Bridges, gave up a boatload of equity to the Nets.
And I liked it at the time. But it's got to ultimately prove
to be the right move and we're going to get the answers really
soon, You know, and it's crazy too.
I was looking at some of the odds here.
Well, it doesn't necessarily, you know, mean a ton.
I mean, do what you want with the odds here, but the Knicks
are the smallest first round. They have the smallest first
round odds to win. Terms of being a favorite.
They're -275 so that tells you, you know, Vegas, and I get it.
I'm not sold on the Knicks. I don't think many of you are
sold on the Knicks. Matter of fact, you know, as we
sit down tomorrow night to watch the first game, it's on, it's on
prime. I'll give you the full schedule
a bit, but 6:00 PM tomorrow night.
You know, I mean, part of me expects the Knicks to fall
behind by 13 points in the first quarter because they almost
always do, and then have the spirited comeback and wind up
winning going away. I do think they're better than
the Hawks here. But that is something that, you
know, the deeper that you get and the more that you mess
around with those inconsistent first quarters, it sets a tone.
And then the other team becomes confident, especially an
underdog. They become a little bit more
emboldened. And you know, a team, I know the
Hawks think that they can win, but the more that that they
have, the more that they that they show early in games and
certainly early in the series that they're ready to match The
Knicks like you, you just you can't mess around with that.
Like they absolutely must advance.
The Knicks must win this series. Like if the Knicks were to lose
in the first round, it would be. I mean, really, if you think
about the recent flame outs and playoff situations, like The
Jets haven't been there for 15 years.
So Jets, go back in the corner of the room where you belong
with the losers until proven otherwise.
You know, the Giants, couple of years ago, they won a road
playoff game with a team that really, you know, that was an
overachievement. Then they got whacked by the
Eagles. And then, of course, since then
they've regressed and they fought on hard times.
That's why John Horbaugh is here and Jackson Dart and and Daniel
Jones is gone. But you even need to put the
Giants in the side of the room. You know, last year's, I think
the the thing that would come closest to this would be last
year's Mets, who won 83 games. And obviously the year before
without Juan Soto, you know, they were on the precipice of
the World Series. Now they lost to the Dodgers,
who ultimately beat the Yankees in the world, who won the World
Series, the Dodgers couple of years ago, but they won it two
years in a row. But and then like, think about
how the dynamics of the Mets have changed.
Like Vientos was an October hero.
He crushed the Philadelphia Phillies pitching.
Mets had this energy. Mets had this vibe.
Bets get Juan Soto. You're expecting the next
logical step forward. And it just I mean, in fantastic
fashion. It just imploded.
I mean, where fan favorites and stabilizing talented players
were shipped out. So I I would think and then of
course, you know, the Yankees got knocked out, obviously did
not win the World Series, did not get back there last year
without Juan Soto. But you know, even that as you
unpack the Yankees season, it was more about all right, you
know, kind of the same old song and dance, same line at the same
line up the running back Yankees Cashman.
This Cashman hasn't earned the right to rebuild the Yankees the
way the Yankees need to be rebuilt.
I said that three years ago. I got to put it on T-shirts
because, you know, I still believe it.
And then I'll be in the Yankees bullpen is horrendous, man.
So we'll get to that in a little bit as well.
But and then, you know, the constant criticisms of boom I
get and and early this year, like sitting rice, like that's
justified. Some of the other stuff with
Boone. I think it's unfair and I think
you guys pile on because I do think that the meat of the issue
with the Yankees is the way that they're built, the way that
they're constructed. That's the GM's job, not the
coach and not the manager's job. So as you look at this all goes
back to the Knicks, as you and then the Rangers were horrendous
this year, obviously pretty good before that the last couple of
years Devils are rebuilding. Isles had some flickers of
enthusiasm this year before it went sideways.
Like the that's our our young and rebuilding and a complete
non entity at this point. Like this is Nick.
This is the next time. As much as we get wrapped up and
nobody loves baseball more than me.
I watch it every night. You watch it every night.
We talk it up to some degree every day here on the show, on
BT Unleashed on the channel. But you know, now.
Oh, yeah, we'll still watch the Yankees and the Mets, of course.
And Mets had a day off. Hopefully they find a way to
regenerate, get their heads out of their behinds.
They have looked awful. I mean, as bad as the Yankees
bullpen is like that's kind of the feel with the entire Mets
team. It's it's absolutely disgraceful
the way the Mets are playing baseball.
But the baseball teams will be shielded to an extent, typing to
a large extent by the New York Knicks.
You don't get in the modern NB, maybe back in the day, like when
you had a core like Bird, McHale, Pack, even the Knicks
core, you know, with Ewing and Oaken Starks, you knew you were
going to eventually have to run into Jordan and beat him, which
they never did. But you knew that that team
because Patrick was a superstar and you know he was still in his
absolute prime. You knew the Knicks would be
together some variation of it for a long time and have a
couple of swings at winning the championship.
This is the last swing for this Knicks group.
This is it. This is the end of the road.
I mean, the gas tank is it's either all right, get to the
next destination or pull over, get in the shop and really, you
know, lift up the hood and start changing the engine and all the
other stuff with the car. So it is a great time at the
sports calendar. I can't wait again, I if the
Knicks are down by 13 in the first quarter tomorrow night,
wouldn't surprise me. If the Knicks are up 27, nine
and they look phenomenal and the gardens popping and they wind up
winning by 16 or 17, wouldn't surprise me.
I do believe very confidently the Knicks will win.
I don't think it's going to be that easy.
I said this week in five, I'm actually more inclined.
I'm kind of leaning more towards 6 the more I look and and you
know how to look at some of the things that the Hawks do.
Very good rebounding team. They've got a lot of bigs.
They got a 6-7 defender who's going to start on Jaylen
Brunson, who's going to really challenge Jaylen Brunson and
make his life tough. Kate Cunningham's a tall
defender. I mean, their dude is 2 inches
taller than Kate. So you know, I, I can't wait,
but I'm, I'm equal parts pumped and I am absolutely equal parts
intrigued and I'm equal parts nervous because I don't have
great confidence in this Knicks team.
I'm not going to tell you guys something I don't believe.
Like I, I don't think the Knicks going to win the championship.
I don't even believe the Knicks get to the conference finals.
So I am much more a believer in a complete retooling, which
obviously opens up a summer dialogue.
Yanis and the head coach, depending upon if and when they
get bounced here, like if if they lose to the Hawks, it is
catastrophic. It is unacceptably catastrophic.
At that point, everybody's got to go, you know, head coach
gone, Cats gone. I think even some of the other
ancillary pieces, you know, whether it's a bridges, whether
it's an OG, you're going to have to really reshape this thing and
get ultra creative and find a way for Giannis to force his way
here because it's and I don't even want to get into this too
much, too weedsy. But as we all know, you know,
the assets that the Knicks have in terms of enticing the Bucks
to ultimately trade him here, if it comes to that, it's going to
be less than what other teams can offer.
So the only just because they basically gave everything up for
Bridges. So the only way that goddess
gets here twofold, Nick's got to collapse #1 it's possible.
And #2 he's got to be very heavy-handed behind closed
doors. It's not his personality to do
it where everybody can. He's not going to be tweeting.
He's not going to go on some podcast and eviscerate the
bucks. He's going to be classy.
He's going to be measured publicly.
But I do believe that this summer he's dealt.
And I think that there's a good chance if things go sideways
that he's going to be a Nick. All right, J Rod, ready for
first call of the show, man, You ready to go?
Yes. Sir, yes, Sir.
We got Jerry from Hackettstown, NJ, so let's.
Get the name up there. Let's get the name.
Make it official. Jerry in Hackettstown, NJ, Jerry
is first up, the historical first call, BT Unleashed.
Hopefully it's a good one. Jerry, what's going on, buddy?
Welcome to the show. How you doing man What's up BT
long time listener to you. That is awesome dude.
Thank you for making that first call.
What's happening, buddy? Die hard Yankee fan Paul O'Neill
Frank love Paul O'Neill look how he played the game.
But I'm watching the Yankees now and the the line of the throne
out there is horrible. I don't understand how he $300
million payroll and he's people under 200.
It's like 5 people under 200. That's disgraceful.
I mean, and listen, but Jerry, you know this Jerry, it's, it's
early. The problem though, some of the
things that plagued the Yankees like they're going to some of
them will resolve themselves a little bit here, like Grisham
sitting $1.55. Jazz is hitting 179.
The catchers really can't hit. That might not change.
And now the bullpen is a complete this might be the worst
Yankee bullpen in 30 years. But I do think Chair, All right,
you sound, you know, you sound pissed.
You sound fairly despondent like it does.
Do you don't let me ask you this.
Do you think? And I can't even believe I'm
going to ask this question, but the way the American League is
very jumbled, the very obvious deficiencies of the Yankees.
Do you think there's a chance the Yankees are on a playoff
team this year? Like, are you there?
I'm there, but I think you're thinking it got bounced in the
first round again. Well, I mean, you know, and, and
thanks for the call there, Jer. First one, thank you.
Salute to Jerry in Hackettstown. Thank you very much.
All right, J Rod, let's keep it moving.
There you go. So J Rod's got a lot more
responsibility today. He's got to produce the show.
Good job with that. He's got to, you know, type in
the name. He's got to handle all the like.
We've got a, a digital, a digital green room for BT
Unleash, which I would have to imagine would be a pretty fun
place. I've been in a couple of green
rooms in my day. You know what I mean?
A little early to get nuts here, you know, but that was awesome.
That was awesome. That was great, 'cause you got
hearing it. My my heart's be on like, oh
man, oh man, that was great. Thank you, Jerry.
Nice. I love the enthus, Jared.
I love the enthusiasm, man. That's that's that's why you're
you're my guy. That's why you're my foxhole guy
and that's why you're producing the show.
But he does have a lot more responsibility back there.
So if there's a bug, it's all good.
This Hey, there, there were bugs on the fan, you know, hey, we
got we got Willie in Long Island.
Willie, Willie, are you there? Willie, Willie, can you hear me?
Willie? You know, like it happens on
normal radio. So it is all good.
The problem with the Yankees now Jazz is going to start hitting
Grisham's. I, I don't know if he's going to
hit like last year, but he's not going to hit 170 is that it's
just such a distorted payroll man.
And you, you look at the way they spend their their money and
the way they devote their assets to the, to the overall salary
structure of the team. It's just not congruent with
what what it should be. And it got it so easy just to go
back to Cashman. It's exhausting, but it's
accurate because he's the one who's built the team.
I don't know how you have a $330 million payroll.
Really think about this 330. You have no lead off hitter.
You haven't. And don't tell me, Stanton, you
have no real real true night to night, physically reliable
production behind the great Aaron Judge.
You know, you have guys playing out of position.
Yeah. Backup starting.
You have a bullpen. You brought in four or five guys
last year. One guy's already in the minors.
Go. Val's going to be on his way
out. He stinks.
So far, I like Bednar. I'm not worried about Bednar.
He's going to be. Bednar is the kind of guy that's
going to make you sweat a little bit, but I trust him.
He's got that bulldog in them. It's early, so I'm not going to
overreact to his numbers. And they're not pretty.
You know, he's the arrays in the four high in in the high fours.
But you know, I, I, I just think that a lot of these issues with
the Yankees so far are going to be problematic throughout the
entire season. I mean, think about what just
transpired in this four-game series with the with the Angels.
Number one is an amazing stat. The Yankees gave up thirteen
home runs in this series. And by the way, the relief
pitchers weren't the only ones culpable.
The starters tried in here as well.
So as the Yankees started the season and they had like a + 22
run differential. Now the giants aren't very good.
Giants can't hit. They got fat on some teams that
really don't have many sticks there.
But the Yankees were. I actually thought it was going
to be the opposite because what I was saying going into the
season is I really thought that the Yankee bats and I, I didn't
love the lineup based on the things that we've talked about
for a while. But I really did think for the
Yankees to not have a very rough April, possibly under 500 April,
like the offense would have to carry the starters without
obviously Garrett Cole and Carlos Rodan.
Did you guys see like I'm like, I'm not in the habit of a body
shaming anybody. Who the hell am I to body shame
anybody? I mean, I got pencil legs.
I got, you know, I got a little love handle here.
I don't think I look bad for 52. But I'm not some Greek God Zeus,
that's for damn sure. So I'm never going to body shame
a woman and I don't even like doing it for for men.
You know, it's just not really my thing.
But you're a pro athlete. So your job is to be in shape
and your job is to to perform. I am still trying to determine
if the photo that I saw the other day of Carlos Rodan and
Gerrit Cole side by side throwing in the I guess in the
outfield there I saw some cones. They were doing some running,
whatever they would do long toss flat ground.
I mean they Carlos Rodan looks like a guy who's lifting 3 kegs
into the into the frat party. He looked 35 lbs overweight.
I don't mean like 7 or 8. He looked noticeably heavy.
I mean, now, All right, You want to tell me there was a picture
years ago where? Oh, God, what was the headline?
God, what was the headline? There was a picture of Derek
Jeter, right? Something, oh God, I wish I
could remember it. It was a long time ago and he
was, I think he was coming back from the ankle injury and he was
holding a cup of coffee out. He was walking somewhere in
Manhattan, maybe even walking into the stadium or from his
car. And he looked, he looked heavy,
like he had a two or three chins.
And then you see him in the uniform and he looks, you know,
63 streamlined one 85190, you know, looks like a gazelle, you
know, looks like an athlete. So sometimes pictures can really
be unflattering. Honestly, the wind blows at the
wrong time, but it just shows every little contour of the of
the belly. But that was not a good look.
Now I don't need him. He's not playing center field.
I don't need him to run the bases.
But I mean, you know, that, that, that that was alarming.
Hopefully it's AI or hopefully it's doctored because I, I, I
mean, Carlo Rodan is a big, strong, sturdy dude anyway.
But to me, like that looked like a guy who was coming off, he's
coming up on arm injury, obvious.
And then he hurt his hamstring a week or so ago.
But he looked like a guy who had a lower extremity injury who
couldn't do cardio and couldn't get on a bike or treadmill, let
alone jog or Sprint or do poles in the outfield for a year.
I mean, he really, I mean, I don't really know what to expect
from Rodon. What's up, Jay?
No, I mean, we've, we've got a call.
We've got James from Hoboken. So whenever you're ready.
Let's get him up. Let's get him up there, brother.
I'd like to see the name. It makes it very.
There you go. We'll figure all that stuff out.
James is in Hoboken. Jimmy.
BT unleashed. What's going on, buddy?
How are you AT? How you doing, man?
Huge fan. I'm good.
Thank you, James. I appreciate that and thanks for
making the call. What's going on?
Yeah, absolutely. Real quick on the on the on the
draft with The Jets. I know they're targeting
possibly a wide receiver with that second pick.
How about moving up and maybe looking at this kid, Mansour,
Delaney from LS, quarterback, LS, yeah, 'cause they have a lot
of needs, but obviously quarterback's one of them.
You know, they do their corners think their safety, The Jets
think. I mean, I mean, really, James,
if you think about this outside of most of the offensive line,
which is a good thing, that's the one thing about The Jets
now, all these years, they're like they're looking for their
quarterback and they're looking for this and looking for an
hedge rusher and looking for a linebacker.
At least this draft. James, The Jets don't have to.
I think that there's a chance they take a guard like an
interior lineman maybe in Round 4, but they don't have to devote
an early resource to that because their own line is of the
top ten in football. So.
So that's at least encouraging. I do like D'alene.
I was talking about him the other night on The Jets
Collector with myself and Rich Simini and Jake Asman.
I don't know if they would do that at 16.
So that. Yeah.
Do you let me ask you this. So 216, obviously second round
pick as well. When when you look at The Jets
second pick here, number one, are you married to a name?
We all know it's Bailey or Reese, or at least that's the
belief. Are you married to a certain
guy, too? What?
What do you want them to do? Yeah, definitely one of those
two guys that was wavering back and forth.
Which one? Because obviously Reese has more
upside, you know, and Bailey has, you know, he has more
college production. He does.
So it depends on what you want, what you want.
I think. I think I'd probably edge toward
Reese. OK.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because of the potential. I vacillate on this.
And James, thanks for the call, man.
Thank you very much. You got him.
I was in Hoboken last night, and I told you, Dino and Harry's the
best spot around. What a meal I was in hobo.
We used to live in Hoboken. I used to see Eli when he lived
in the. Was that the mat?
You can get the. Thank you, Jay.
I think he was. I think Eli was in the Maxwell
building. And we were up in the shipyards.
We had just gotten engaged, and we used to see Eli and his wife
pushing the stroller all the time.
We used to go to the Hudson Tavern.
My at that point, my fiance and I, I sit outside and Eli would,
we probably saw him 7-8 times pushing the stroller.
What is such a good guy? I, I don't want to bother him,
but you know, I said hi a few times, but just a sweetheart of
a dude. Love.
I absolutely love hope and Hoboken.
We had a great time there. Listen, I, I, I think that
there's, this is probably going to sound weird because I'm
probably going to hit you with five scenarios here, but I
really do think there's so many different things that Jets can
do as I prioritize now, I do think that there's a really good
chance they trade off of 16, whether it's up or back, I don't
know. I think Dallas at 12 and 20 is a
player. I think the Arizona Cardinals
can make a trade. You know, I saw some, you know,
fairly, you know, reputable people put some mocks out where
they've got the Cardinals make it a trade.
I don't know if it was their third pick, but another trade
with Miami back into the first round, maybe move in, get Ty
Simpson, maybe get their quarterback.
Jets aren't touching Ty Simpson. Not going to happen.
Not that I would go crazy if if it did, but there is nothing
unless they are just the most suddenly the most covert
operation and there's no leagues and there aren't any leagues,
which actually is a good sign that The Jets building is
getting a little healthy finally, Jets aren't taking Ty
Simpson. So I would like to see them
trade off of 2 and scoot down a couple of spots.
But we all know you got to have somebody to dance with.
I'm I could I've been saying for three weeks, trade down, trade
down, trade down, trade out of two and get Sonny Styles trade
out of two and get Caleb Downs trade out of two.
And you know, maybe get Bailey or or Ruben Bain if you want
that edge rusher from Miami, short arms and all.
I as much as I want them to trade out of two, I don't think
it's really as plausible as I make it just because the way
that I think the draft is going to go.
I think the draft really starts at 3 now.
Obviously we'll see who The Jets take.
And it does seem like it's going to be Bailey or Reece.
They canceled the meeting with Bailey, one of the 30 visits.
And you listen, this is basic stuff.
Everybody's saying this, but it means they either love them and
they're taking them or they're sold on Reece and they're not
taking Bailey. Why waste time?
But I would I would throw this in, and I said this on The Jets
collective show the other night, like at least play the game a
little bit longer. Now, if it was a logistical
thing and like Bailey couldn't make it or The Jets had to do
some other stuff, All right, do what you got to do.
You know how you have to run your war room.
But to me, the more you play the game and the more you present a
lack of commitment to a certain player that that could that
could inspire a team that we're not even thinking about right
now. Maybe the Saints or the Chiefs
at 9 or whatever it might be. The Commanders have been linked
to The Jets. Maybe they swap 16 and seven.
And then obviously Washington, we get more Jets scoot in.
They take one of the receivers. I mean, listen, guys, and I
think most people have a Tyson. If that's the case, if they do
do, if they do that at #7 if The Jets walk away with, with Bailey
or Reese and who they perceive to be the top receiver, I mean,
it, it's going to be hard to criticize it at least on draft
night. Now, it's ultimately got to come
to fruition and it's got to work itself out.
But I, I really think, I think, and it started to change a
little bit, but I thought for a long time that the first
scenario would be at 2 again, just for the sake of this
conference. No trades, right?
2 defense, 16 defense. Then the other situation would
be absolutely, there's no way they're not taking defense at 2.
So defensive 2 and then receiver at 16.
The other thing that you can do, I would love to see now Samini
said the other night that he thinks it would take maybe 3 or
4 spots if The Jets get whomever they covered, covered more
defensive numbers on defensive #2 and they make a move a few
slots up to get Sadiq, the tight end from Oregon.
I mean, now you start to cook because you know eventually The
Jets will find their their quarterback, whenever that is.
And to me, if you go into, you know, next year and Sadiq is
what everybody thinks he's going to be, and you've got, you know,
basically a wide receiver playing tight end who's a
matchup nightmare for anybody. Well, suddenly The Jets offense
with a really good offensive line with Breeze Hall, Brandon
Allen back, Garrett Wilson and Mason Taylor as a tight end 2 at
that point and Rucker can come in and block.
Obviously they gave him an extension, a small one, but I
like Ruckerd and then a tight end like Sadiq.
Well, now you got to pick some poisons and now Garrett Wilson's
going to be open a lot. And if he and not to mention,
you know, Wilson, you know, AD like they there was the receiver
room is thin, but their vertical game can change fast if they
wind up getting somebody like Sadiq.
The other thing that you could do and you you absolutely could
go corner at #16 if you stayed there.
So I'm pumped up and and I'm excited and I'm always hopeful
for The Jets. You guys know that the whole
unkillable thing on the fan, you're not going to kill us.
Aaron Rodgers went down. He didn't kill us last night.
We were unkillable. Let's say it's the mantra.
It's the mantra that I that I adopted a long time ago because
I I just can't walk around like a loser.
Just stop walking around work like a loser.
What a nut job. That that wasn't, that was
insanity. That that whatever you want to
call that 2 minute explosion out of body, not even really knowing
what I said. Crazy nut job delivery.
But you know, I finally watched it because we played it.
I had never listened to the whole thing in its entirety.
I saw a lot of clips and I was like, God, jeez, the hood, you
standing there, you're punching the desk.
What are you doing, man? I mean, look at what this team
is doing to you. I mean, you're at that .51 year
old out of your mind, crazy person because The Jets.
So I am. If you're new to the show.
I think I'm a unique Jet fan. I think my Jet fandom is unique
because I'm a Yankee fan. And while I'm a very, I think
I'm a very realistic Yankee fan. Like right now this team ain't
winning anything and I didn't think that they were going to
win last year either. But the Yankee winning
throughout my lifetime has made me less miserable as I attack my
football team. So I'm always hopeful and I
always go with the seasons optimistically.
I try, I skew that. I don't even try to.
I just, it's like my default. I naturally skew that way.
And then once they give me evidence to the contrary, I
become an unhinged, deranged lunatic.
And I'll bash and bury The Jets as aggressively as anybody.
But I really do believe that my hope for this franchise is
finally rooted in a little bit of reality.
Because I think The Jets have their general manager.
I really, really believe in Muji now, like, like Douglas, like
Joe, who drafted a lot of good players, many of whom are God at
this point. But I mean, that man brought in
boatloads of talent. He just never found this
quarterback. Ultimately, Mooji is going to
have to find this quarterback. But whether it's, you know,
inside the margins, those little back of the roster transactions
during the season, you know, other team scraps, taxi players,
finding guys who can kick you, who can return kicks and in the
punt game. Jets had the best special teams
unit a year ago. Like it was really the only good
thing truly that they did. And they did cut the penalties
back a little bit. But Aaron Glenn to me is a very
separate entity. I don't believe he's tied to
Mooji. I do believe that they are
principled in the same things. There's been a lot of talk like,
and this really goes to Bailey or The Jets going to do
something in the draft to help there and they like increase the
chances to win now because the pressure's on.
They got to win. Glenn's coming off an awful
season and if they're one in six, he might get fired and
probably will get fired during the season and certainly at the
end of the season. I think Muji is several, you
know, floors not in the penthouse, but, you know, right
now you got Aaron Glenn in the outhouse, and at least Muji's in
a pretty decent apartment. Yeah, it's furnished.
He's got running water. Like, I think it's different,
but I think Muji is really good. I do.
What's up there, Jay? We got John from Fort Hood.
Texas with a oh, I'm Texas in the house about a little G men
stuff. I believe John used to call the
fan quite a bit. Can we get the name up there and
make it official as we deal? Yeah, you go look at J Rod all
over Johnny's in Fort Hood, TX. I was just in Texas throwing out
the first pitch for the Rangers on Easter Sunday.
It was not a strike, but the Velo is good.
John, what's happening, buddy? Welcome to UNLEASH.
How you doing? Thanks for making the call.
Hey, what's going on, BT? Big fan over.
Here. Thank you buddy.
What's you used to call the fan a lot, didn't you?
Is this that? No, I think you got me mistaken
for somebody else. My bad, I'm all good.
We got a new fan here. What's up dude?
Not much. I did listen to you and Sal
every day on The Fan and you know, sad to see you guys go,
but I'd love to see what you're doing here on YouTube.
I appreciate that, man. Thank you.
What's happening? No problem, no problem.
So my question is, so if you're the Giants, right, they got
decks, they got decks under contract for another two years.
Yep. You don't want to give them away
for peanuts, but you also don't want him moping around and
bringing negativity to the locker room.
Yep. So what do you do?
I'm trading him. He's out.
I said that, yes, I don't know if you called the show yet and I
want, I want your opinion as well, but that's my honest
answer. That's what I would do and
that's what I believe is going to happen.
And and I said this during the show yesterday.
If you guys missed it, go check out the channel.
And then after the show, some more news came out where
basically seems like it's a done deal as long as the Giants could
get what they're asking. Like you're not going to give
him away for $0.60 on the dollar.
He's too good. Even though he's coming off a
bum year, out of shape, not a lot of production, he's still
when he's right, he's one of the three best interior or 4 best
interior defensive line of the football.
And when he's really right, he's one or two.
Like we all know that Dexter Lawrence is that guy.
He is not getting a new contract for the Giants.
You can take that one to the bank.
Now it seems like he doesn't even want one, which tells me he
is. He is mentally checked out.
And because he seemed physically checked out last year, now
you've got the mental aspect. He's going to be an ex Giant.
That's what's going to happen. What do you think, John?
I hear you, BT but I just, I can't see them giving them away
for peanuts. I feel like unless they can get
a deep, you know, at least a first round draft pick in there,
maybe a third or something like that.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not doing the trade.
And if we can't get a deal like that, he's got two years left on
his deal. He's going to suck it up and and
play because he's not going to sit out for two years.
No, he's definitely not. I mean, now we get into the the
age 30 and when you're a big man like that being even though of
course he could train, but being inactive and not being in a
team's building for two years, he might come back 400 lbs.
I mean, so all right, so John I that the problem is there's a
couple things here. Number one, does he let let's,
let's go checkpoint by checkpoint #1 do you believe
that he truly wants out? Yes or no?
I think he wants to get paid more than anything.
I think that's his number one priority.
OK, I I bet that's I would agree with that.
But because I think he he knows he's not, he's not feeling that
love from the giants. I think the the first pursuit,
which is always monetary legion, we got to we got to got to put
food on the table, man. I get it's all about the money.
But now that he feels that the giants are not going to do what
he wants now I believe he wants no part of them now.
I believe he's angry. I think the first declaration,
the first trade request was him playing the business game.
I think what we saw yesterday was him saying I'm done with
being a New York Giants. So that that's my opinion.
I got yours. Number one, that's the Dexter
angle #2 Do you believe that the Giants are now actively either
looking to or will be willing to trade him, Yes or no?
I believe so. Yes, me too.
That is easy to interpret. We're on the same page there,
number 3, and this is really what's going to either determine
if he's gone or not. What's the lowest amount of
draft capital that you would take in return?
There has to be a first in there somewhere.
No matter, no matter how you slice it.
I can't. I can't trade them for 1/3 and
1/5 and something. I can't do it.
Yeah. No, I'm with you on that.
Low first. There has to be a first in there
somewhere. OK.
Well, I think there, I think there's 5050 that you get a
first round. Now he's on back into the you're
not getting inside the top 16 or like, OK, so let's at least get
some separation first part of the first round back half.
I think there's a good chance or at least maybe not good.
I think there's a chance that somebody what it's all said and
done would acquiesce. And whether it's 182023
somewhere in that vicinity, I believe that that would happen.
But if that doesn't happen, would you take two twos?
Because I would. Two tubes?
Yep. Yeah, I might have to take that
deal. Yeah, All right, man.
We're on the same page. By the way, you are you in the
military, John. I am.
God bless you brother. Awesome, I.
Appreciate that. I we appreciate your service.
Thanks for making the call. Salute to John Fort Hood salute
to everybody out there in Fort Hood.
So look what do we have 3 or 4 calls we already?
We got another great state of Texas.
Is already John. Then we got Bob.
Who do you got? From Bob this we got Bobby.
From Oh yeah, Bobby. Yeah, a little in New York.
I live in New Jersey. Little Texas.
Bobby is up next on on leash. Bobby, what's going on on up in
Vermont? What's up dude?
I get excited when I call it to you.
You're the best, I think. And you remember.
That WN didn't think so, but I I appreciate that you.
Did oh I know one person that did not like me from WFRN, the
guy who was bald in the morning with the Geo and boomer.
You know him he did not like. Of course.
Yeah. Boomer's the best Jerry.
That's about Jerry's. I love Jerry.
Now who is the guy in the back, Al Dukes, who puts you on?
Oh, oh, Al, the producer. Oh, my God.
No, no, yeah, I don't think he doesn't.
He doesn't like phone calls, so he doesn't like what's going on,
man, that's what. He's doing his job, He's got to
do his job. He's a good producer.
I I got you, I got you. He just doesn't like bobbing for
a month, but I do. So that's good news for Bobby
and Vermont. What's on your mind, buddy?
Let's get to it. What do you got?
Do you think the Giants could get love as a running back?
Get a get a, I'm sorry, a running back.
Love, Jeremiah. Love.
Yeah. Love.
Yeah. I got you As what?
I just want to make sure I heard you properly.
Thank you for the call, Bobby. Thank you very much.
That's that's a confounding one right there.
That is, I don't think the giants have taken him.
I know they're I know they're attached to him a little bit.
I think the giants, the initial thought and it's still pretty
strong for me. I've always thought Caleb Downs
for the giants. You know, horribaugh was raving
about him on Mike Frances podcast, right?
And he said it somewhere else. You know, he loves those
safeties that could flip fields. He's always had one that can
make plays there. He knows the importance there.
I also do think that there's a chance the Giants go offensive
line, you know, and I talked about The Jets.
I don't think they're taking a receiver.
One thing like you look at a couple of early thoughts about
like what the Giants could do with the draft here.
And I'm going back like a month or two ago and it really started
with downs and then Sonny Styles worked out and and his tape is
really good as well. But Sonny Styles crushed the
combine. So you started hearing some
Sonny Styles from Ohio State. You heard a few people say, and
this I just vehemently disagree. This to me makes no sense.
I've heard some people say, well, Malik neighbors, you know,
it's not going to be Malik neighbors early in the season.
So draft a wide receiver. No, you, you got to you got to
think and there's some really good ones.
You got to think big picture. You're not taking a you're not
taking a receiver because Malik neighbors will be rusty and not
fully back to being Malik neighbors for the first month of
the season. Giants got to think big picture.
There's no pressure on the Giants.
You know, Babel's gone chains pretty much a yes man at this
point. No, no disrespect, but does
anybody really think Joe Shane's got any sort of say on what the
Giants do on draft night? I mean, let's just go, let's
transport ourselves into the Giants draft room.
All right, Six days from now and John Horribaugh wants Caleb
Downs or Fanu, say the offensive lineman from Utah just throwing
names out or, you know, he thinks they could trade down and
still get maybe a styles, maybe a Downs, maybe another old
lineman, maybe even a corner, though I don't think that
they'll go corner. I don't think.
I think The Jets are more inclined to go corner early than
the Giants, to be fair. But any disagreement?
Now, I'm not saying they're going to be yelling at each
other here, but Joe Shane's not going to get his way.
He's not, you know, and the first little personal flare up
or real true disagreement, whether it's about decks,
whether it's about somebody to draft, It seems like it was
pretty smooth and free agency so far.
You know, then eventually Joe Shane's going to be gone and
John Horbaugh is going to bring in one of his own John Horbaugh
show. He got a boatload of cash.
He's got a million years behind it.
He's a Super Bowl winning coach. The Giants are a disaster.
He's got world, you know, worldwide, sure, but league wide
respect, it's whatever he wants, he's going to get because Mara
is going to give him because John Mara is smart enough,
unlike Woody, who was an awful owner.
And not that John Mara has been a very good owner to the last
couple of years, starting with Coughlin walking off the stage
and that icy relationship and some other stuff.
I don't need to, you know, re litigate the entire, you know,
mess the Giants have been. We all know what it's been.
But John Mara's history is 1. And and of course, his dad, the
great Mara family, Wellington is one of, you know, rich, steep
winning, you know, not only winning, but consistency and
stability and like, without drama, you know, the Odell
Beckham stuff at the end with Coughlin and, you know, just
recycling coaches. And are Gino's going to start
for Eli? He's just wow.
So I do think that John Mara is smart enough to, even though he
knows football, he's a football man.
You know, he's smart enough to know.
All right, I got the guy in here that I just gave all those terms
to. He's got the hammer.
It's his show. And I'm laying out, you know,
like, the only thing that you will have to run by me is how
much money we're willing to spend.
And the Giants have never been cheap.
So I think the Giants are in a very healthy situation, number
one at 5. I think they could trade back
because I think they'll be enticement from teams behind.
Like, listen, I think the Saints are going defense.
I don't really know what the I think the commanders are almost
a lock to make a trade at 7:00. But I think the Saints are going
D and I think the chiefs based on, you know, some of their
older stars and you know, Mahomes, not that he's old, but
he's coming off a big injury. There's only a finite window to
win so many champions. Andy Reid's not young.
I, I, I could see some of those teams like in that seven through
10 ish window, if they love downs and the giants love downs
or styles or, or somebody else, I could see the giants scooting
back a few slots, getting some more capital and still, you
know, getting a massive pick. So I, I think the giants are a
good book. The giants feel healthy.
You know, I think they're getting back to their stable
ways, which is, which is a great thing, which is a really good
thing. J Rod now J Rod, did you see
what's up? Sorry, we're dealing with some
with some stuff in the backstage.
Trying to just figure out some kinks.
Oh. Yeah, no, we're good.
We're good. It's just like a, it's just like
a mic thing. Oh, OK, yeah, but it's still
working, right? We're still showing we're no.
We're good. We're good.
All right. We're about to have Brian up in
just a second. OK, you.
Yep, you just put it up on the screen when he's ready to roll.
Boy, how good is it this now, not from a Yankee perspective,
but if you love baseball and you just love greatness, how could
you not be so happy for Mike Trout?
I'm of this Mike Trout kick because my son played in
Melville. I told you last weekend,
Melville, New Jersey on Mike Trout's, you know little at the
Little League facility that Mike Trout must have hit 900
gazillion home runs and broke 37,000 windshields in the
parking lot. My goodness.
So, I mean, I've always loved Mike Trout, man.
He's such a low maintenance superstar who just has been
decimated with injuries and you know it.
It is easy. It is easy to forget how,
depending upon how old you are, just how transcendently great he
really was. Like, let me just hit you with a
couple of we all know he's got the three MVPS, right?
So he burst on the scene as a young kid with a football body
and a football mentality, thick thighs, thick neck.
Like he looks like a linebacker. You remember when they would
show like in the 8, Like I remember when I first started
watching college football in the 80s and the 90s, they would have
like that And they, well, they still do it, but I just, I think
it just looked different back then because it did with the
graphics and and the, you know, evolution of TV.
But they would have like, say the linebackers, right,
Depending upon if you go with three or four and they're like
Oklahoma, right, you'd see like 3 linebackers, 4 linebackers and
like Bosworth would have that neck thing, you know, like that
little white neck thing. Now they have other stuff like
they've got the almost like a roll up, but that old school
neck thing. I don't know really what the
neck collar if you played football like to me like that's,
I look at my Trout, I see old school football linebacker neck
collar. And probably also a dude who had
27 touchdowns and ran for 1900 yards in high school as a
running back that nobody wanted to or could tackle or catch
because he's got blinding speed. So he he just always projected
this quiet football intensity. He's got a football body, but
man, he has been sidetracked with the injuries.
But when he started out rookie of the year, that's obviously a
lot. 3 Mbps, right? 9 Silver Sluggers and he hasn't
really had one in a while. 11 All Stars.
But the most amazing thing about Mike Trout, you know, and, and
Judge has a couple of 2nd place finishes as well.
Mike Trout has four second place MVP finishes. 4 right?
And he's got, he also has a fourth and a fifth place finish.
And then I was just, you know, and I knew most of the numbers.
But because he was playing the Yankees and because he had five
home runs and because he went nuts and because he looks like
he's 27 all of a sudden instead of 34 or 33, he had a five year
run consecutively where he, he led Major League Baseball in OPS
plus and he had five other years where he led Major League
Baseball in WAR. Now I don't, I kind of wish the
Angels were awful #1 the Yankees would have gotten a few more
wins here. But like, if they mess around
and they're competitive, they're not going to trade Mike Trout.
But man, I mean, if you could just take Mike Trout and dump
him in the middle of the Bronx, right?
And then really what you could do is you could keep Mike in
center and kick Grisham to left and put Bellinger at first base
and have Ben Rice DH and catch a little bit with wells.
I mean, now you now you're talking when Gerrit Cole and
Rodan come back and Schlittler and Max free Max free labored.
Yesterday I was watching the game and I heard Kay say Michael
say that at at this point, the game 9 of of the only hit 9 of
22 or 9 of 23 first pitch strike.
So and and O'Neill was saying he didn't really have a feel for
any pitch. So he kept them in the game.
I mean, obviously, because that's what great pitchers do
when you don't have your race stuff, even if you're going out
there B minus, you'll find a way to figure stuff out, get some
outs and give yourself A-Team, give your team a chance to kick
their way to a win. So you got to respect that.
But you know, watching the Angels, I'm like, all right,
they got a couple of players and all right, they're not going to
be terrible. But if they do morph back into
being terrible like they've been for years now, I mean, you have,
and not just the Yankees, but you have to approach the Angels
about trading for Mike Trout. Now he's got a lot of a lot of
years to go and a lot of money, $37,000,000 a year.
So he's got all this year obviously, and he's got 272829
and 30 at $37,000,000 a year. Now, is that palatable for the
Yankees financially? I mean, it should be.
Would it be? Probably not.
But think about all that plagues the Yankees offense right now.
Think about that. And then think about how much it
changes if you've got #1 he's a righty, which the Yankees
desperately need for balance, OK?
And he is a stud, which the Yankees desperately need to
eventually, you know, maybe be able to match the Dodgers, who
are on their own planet so far. Like, the Dodgers are the only
team that's distinguished themselves as an awesome team so
far. Everybody else is, you know, 11
and 912 and 10, you know, into outside of the Rockies and like,
and the Mets and one other team, like the winning percentage of
like 3335% is a lot of 500 teams.
So it's early. I don't know that the Angels
will be hanging around for a wild card in two or three
months. But if they're not, I mean, you
got to kick that door down and and you've got to entice them
with, you know, even if it's one of these young flamethrowers
that you don't want to give up, you're not going to give up
Lombard at this point. But who looks awesome?
Take whatever else you want because as I've said and many
have said, they owe Aaron Judge. They owe Aaron Judge a massive
swing. And just think about the the
lineup and the defensive alignment, Judge and right grout
and center, Grisham and left. Or you can even go you go
Bellinger, Trout, Judge and then you keep Rice at first.
Or if you want to have a great defensive first baseman instead
of somebody who's learning the game, who I think will be he's
been competent so far. It's been OK.
And he's a hell of a hitter. But you go belly at first base,
Judge, Trout, Grisham, you know, And then if it's just man, I
mean, that's probably wishful thinking.
I know probably one of these delusional thoughts.
Find a way to get Mike Trout. Anybody can say that, but very
rare that singularly one person would change so much about the
way we perceive A-Team. Think about that lineup and
think about that fear factor. You got to navigate a healthy
Judge and a healthy Trout and then those other, obviously Rice
and obviously Bellinger. It's different.
Look, all right, Jay, what do you got coal wise buddy?
Get them up. All right.
So I think this guy's experiencing difficulty, so
we're probably just going to shift to the next caller.
So give me just a second. OK, OK.
All good. By the way, I see the chats are
still flowing here. That's really nice.
You know what? You're right.
Virtual discourse put that up. The Padres are also hot.
Yeah, and the Padres started very, very poorly.
You can get that up there, Jay. It's all good.
Which? One's the virtual.
Discourse. One I just read it.
I yeah, that's OK. Yeah, they're red hot.
I thought you had a super chat up there.
There you go at Christa, Chris Christmasis.
That's a tough one to say, Chris.
Mitt, sis one O 2. Thank you, Chris.
Take a look at the Mets lineup. Big changes.
Really big. What?
What is the Mets? So it's out already.
Hold on. Wait.
Yeah, they're playing the Cubbies here.
Let me get a look at this Mets lineup and do this here.
Oh, man. What do we got?
Yeah, I mean, the Mets better
start changing things up. I mean, they've been rolling out
that the Mets. Wow.
It is. It is going to be a thin, thin
rope that is fraying here for Mendoza.
If they don't get this thing fixed because you're not going
to get rid of Stearns in the middle of the season like that
might be, you know, something that they do, obviously in the
offseason, which I don't even think that they would do.
Here it is, 7 minutes ago. Wow.
OK. Very different.
You got Benj leading off. Wow.
Yeah. There's a different one, Benj,
one. Bouchette, 2.
Lindoor, Louise Robert 4 Alvarez up to the five spot.
Melendez just called up Simeon 7 Beatty eight, who does not have
a walk yet. Brett Beatty is the only player
and I like Brett Beatty, but I don't like what he's doing.
So far. Brett Beatty is the only player
in Major League Baseball with the, like, the requisite amount
of A bats who has not drawn a walk.
I mean, that's not 400 bats, but, you know, you've got about
7065 no walk. So you got Benj Bichette Lindor,
Robert Alvarez, Melendez, Simeon Beatty, Taylor Sanga on the
mound, You know, Kodai Sanga, not exactly the dude you want up
there to stop the bleeding. Now, he does have high end
stuff, as we know. So maybe this is one of those
days where, you know, that that ghost pitch is just dropping to
the dirt and killing worms and guys are banging it into the
ground and he's got 9 strikeouts and he manages a pitch count.
But yeah, also that guy who's nibbling a lot of three, two
counts, pitch count up high. You know, I don't know which way
the wind is blowing out at the rig today, but that's always a
variable out there in Chicago. Like they need, they need a well
pitched game. And they've had a few and
they've lost too with McClain and and even Clay Holmes.
But he's got to put up some zeros early.
And this, this Mets offense has like the Mets offense,
eventually they're going to have some nights where they they
start hitting. Even bad teams do.
And I don't think the Mets are a bad team, big picture.
They're just a wretched team now.
And you, you want to see what they look like when Soto's back
and probably still a couple of weeks away here.
But the worst thing that you can do as a pitcher when your
offense is scuffling, give up two or three runs in the first
inning. Now that pressure is even more
amplified. Man, we're in the hole now.
You try to you're already trying to break out of your own
personal and team funk, you know, so that's like the big
picture. But then the story within the
game is that now we're down a couple here and you know, that
chains getting a little tighter, that jersey feels a little
tighter. I don't know.
I don't, I don't really don't know what to expect from the
Mets much like I really don't know what to expect from the
Yankees right now. I think I've got more of a feel
for who the Yankees are. And I do think the Yankees are
better. I mean, the record says that.
But in terms of talent, I I still think the Yankees are
better and I'm going to eventually love their staff.
And I still think the Mets get their act together, but they
better start going here like it's it has been.
It's one thing when you lose and it's early, but when you lose
the manner in which they have now, it looks like you're not
dialed into the fundamentals, which obviously speaks to
coaching. Now, to be fair to Carlos
Mendoza, but this is just the reality of being a coach or
manager. If you are like Mike Brown can
scream, not that he ever will, but at practice and you know, be
diligent with the grace board and watching film and his
concepts are buttoned up. Say try to do something on
defense and the Knicks just don't do it.
Well, they don't do it because couple of guys out there are
fairly deficient defenders like Bronson, like Cat, whatever.
So you know, you you can be dialed in as a coach and your
guys still not do their job and eventually the buck is stopping
with you. I don't think that Mendoza is
ignoring fundamentals. I know he's not.
I think he's a good baseball man who right now has a very
different roster. That is GM gave him that I liked
going into the offseason. I liked what the Mets did.
But that doesn't mean that I'm going to be right.
And it's really not my job to be right.
It's my job to react to what I'm seeing.
It's my job to react to what they do like I did during the
offseason. Yeah, I kind of like this new,
you know, love Bouchette, Polanco's interesting run
prevention, which is not happening.
They're only preventing themselves from scoring so far.
But I like what they did conceptually, and I reacted to
it. Now I'm reacting to the slop.
But they feed us nightly. They got to start playing
better. Let me get Rob under score.
Huertas. What's up there, Robbie?
All right, BTI gave up on The Jets being at 500 for this year
already. You don't even know the
schedule. Come on.
I have a little optimism after all these years that we can get
one belief in interception. Yeah, I mean it.
It's what was the stat last year?
Well, we all know The Jets didn't have an interception.
Thank you for that, Robert. I appreciate that, man.
Generous. Jets had no interceptions.
Like, imagine sitting there in July, you know, whether you're
at a preseason game or you're on your text chain with your
buddies and somebody says, hey, who wants to bet 500 bucks The
Jets won't have a single interception the entire season?
I'd be like, can we make it 5000?
Can we make it 50,000? Yes, I will take that bet and I
would have lost. So we all know about that.
But the other thing too is because Garrett Wilson got hurt,
they did not even have a wide receiver over 400 yards
receiving. Like when you talk about the
sad, pathetic, ghastly state of the New York Jets franchise,
last year really may have been the worst one yet.
It may have been because December was completely
unwatchable, even like the the pivot points like the the Blair
Thomas fumble on Monday night in Chicago or the fake spike
Boomers team against Miami when they lost five games in December
and even the one in 15 team with go tight and before that the
three win team. They were a little bit more
exciting to watch. At least you had like and I love
Garrett Wilson, but you had you had Keyshawn, you had Corbett,
you had Adrian Morrell. Then of course you had Curtis
and things change. But you know, you had Jumbo
Elliott, you had MO Lewis, you had Marvin Jones, you had Aaron
Glenn, who was a terrific corner, Ray Mickens really good
in the slot. I mean, it was AI.
Don't know that she well, I don't even want to tempt the
football gods and say what I was about to say, but you know what
I mean. It was bad.
All right, You got another call there, Jay.
What do you got there, pal? Sure, we got Vince from Florida
calling in. All right, let's get him up
there. Vinny is down to the great state
of Florida. Vince, what part of Florida?
Buddy, welcome to the show. What's happening?
Yeah, hey, I'm in Fort Myers. There you go.
Fort Myers. OK, what's going on?
What do you? Got OK first you 2 guys are like
the dynamic duo. You guys are fantastic.
I love J. Rod, he is awesome.
He's awesome. I feel like I hit the trifecta.
I got you and Tiki, then I got you and Sal and I got you on
Unleashed. I hit the trifecta.
Hey. Hey.
Listen, by the way, here's the one common you got me.
Like that's the common denominator I.
Heard me and. Sal, me and Tiki, but as long as
you got me, that's. What?
Matters to me. There you go, There you go.
Well, you were in each of them. So hey, I just have a kind of
question for you. What was your most memorable
game that you're physically out like?
Knick game. Jet game, Giant Game.
God, can you give me? Can you give me?
I love those questions. Can can you give me yours first?
What was? Yours OK?
It would probably have to be game for 69 World Series.
Tom Seaver on the mound, you know, and I, I got to put 1B to
that. Got to be the first game, Yankee
game. I went to it.
My dad lifts left field bleachers behind Yogi Berra.
And the funny part is Mickey comes up first time they walk
them intentional and the fans are booing.
So I go to my dad. Why are they booing Mickey?
He goes no, no, no. They don't want to pitch to him.
So they did it three more times. So about the 8th inning, Mickey
comes up, runner on base, the other team's winning.
I forgot. So they pitched him.
Boom, he hits A2, run, home run into the right field seats.
There you go. My dad turns to me and says
that's why they walk him. Yeah.
And I'm sure. And how old were you?
I'm sure a little Vince had a pretzel, maybe a little hot dog,
a little Coke. Enjoying.
The Mikoni must have been 7. Something like that, yeah.
Oh my God. But hold on, Vince.
Now, first of all, where are you from?
Where'd you grow? Up originally from the Bronx.
You go to high school. I went to high school, St.
Raymond's. Oh, you went to Saint Ray?
St. Ray's, man, can I tell you?
Can I tell you a quick aside, I'll give you my answer.
So I went to Xavier, right? So we played against St.
Ray's and we played Regis and LaSalle Talentine when they were
still open. St.
Ray's, all Hollows, Iota Prep, all those schools that you know,
a Silesian, a couple of the Spellman, Cardinal Spellman and
I remember. So I'm a freshman and we're
playing St. Ray's.
Baseball is my sport, but this is my freshman year in
basketball and, and I'm not a starter and I'm on the bench,
right? And St.
Ray's was really good in basketball and I remember I
would they were pressing us and trapping US 94 feet.
One of the kids on the team actually wound up going to
Maris, Danny Basil, who was a great shooter, led the NCAA in
free throws one year in college and he was a great player at
Saint Rays. And I actually roomed with Danny
my last year, meet a couple of baseball players, my boys, Trev
and Maddie. Anyway, I remember being on the
bench, Vince and I remember saying to myself, just looking
at them for Mike, because I all I could do is shoot.
I was slow as shit. And I'm sitting there saying I
don't want to go in this game. Like I just I can't.
What am I going to? Do with this.
And guess what? I didn't.
He didn't look down my way. I didn't say I didn't.
I would never say coach, I don't want to play.
I would never do that. I'm not a loser.
But I'm like, this is going to be ugly, man.
I tell you, when I was, you know, I'm an oldie here.
I graduated the same race in 66. Big thing with Saint Helena's,
playing Saint Helena's and we even played.
I remember playing Tower and Rice and we played Power when
Lou Alcindor was there. Oh my God, We couldn't beat the
high school or the PS1. O six across the street, one
backwards there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I mean, we could talk all day about Lou.
I mean, I just. I just don't know why.
Probably because money. Because John Wooden had a money
man. I don't know why.
Imagine if Lou would have gone to St.
John's. My God.
All right, so let. Me ask you this.
He should have. Let me ask you this, Vince.
The I do have a question before I give you my answer.
So your first memory was Tom Seaver.
Game 469 World Series, miracle Mets.
They win it. OK, OK.
Your second memory was Yankee Stadium.
Mickey Mantle. Like we're crossing wires.
Are you Yankees and Mets? Please tell me.
No. No win.
What? Well, I was a Yankee fan
obviously, back in the 50s and 60s.
Then when the Mets came and KC and it was fun, I kind of
started room for the Mets, you know all.
Right. You know, not my cup of tea does
something. I usually shoot down, Vince, but
you seem like a great guy, so I'm not going to tie.
Usually I'll attack, but I'm going to let you go.
Hey, have a great weekend, Vince.
Thank you for the call. Appreciate it.
What was your moment I'm. Going, I'm going to give you
what you you don't hang with me, I'll give it to you.
Keep them on the line. I had a job down.
I was going to give it to you now, but I want you hung up.
So I'll take you through the process.
There's a couple to jump out right away now.
I used to go to the Knick playoff games all the time.
And that's like that's that's so meaningful because I was with my
dad and amazing. And I was at the game when
Hubert Davis really didn't get fouled, but Hugh Hollins bailed
him out and he hit a couple of free throws to I think Pippen
found them, but he didn't really found them and he bailed out
Ewing, who had missed a couple of free throws late.
So I'll never forget that one. The two that really do jump out
to me pushing St. John's aside, having done the
Sweet 16 like that was very meaningful to me.
It's got to be the 96 clincher against the Braves, 96, Yankees
game six. I was there and that was the
first World Series from the Yankees that I was.
You know, I was born in 77 and 70, but I just, I was too young.
I've said that a million times. I didn't.
I don't really remember watching that at all.
So 96 game, one Yanks win finally and then the other one
was the 98 playoff game for The Jets before they lost in Denver
when they beat Tom Coughlin's Jaguars.
I was also at the game. I had season tickets at this
point and you know, that was Mark Brunel and Keenan Allen and
and Jimmy Smith and Freddie Taylor.
Tony Boselli left tackle. Awesome.
I was worried about that game. Great coach in Coughlin and the
thing that I remember most about outside of being euphoric
leaving that stadium, Keyshawn Johnson.
Johnson had an interception at the end of the game.
Yeah, Parcells put them in. You've seen that before.
You know, he's 6364. Keyshawn puts he's on the third
level. You know, Brunel throws a Hail
Mary, Keyshawn picks it off. Keyshawn also had AI believe
that Why? I know he ran one in Keyshawn
had a reverse on the left side from like 20 or 30 yards out.
So that game Keyshawn ran one in caught a touchdown and had an
interception in a game The Jets to the AFC championship and I
real I really thought Vince and thank you for the call Vince.
It's been a pleasure chatting with you man great stuff.
Thank you man. I thought that that was the year
that The Jets were going to win the Super Bowl like everything
about it The Jets before there's a million years ago glory days
98 I guess 2026. I'm I'm grasping for 1998.
Good God, help me with The Jets. But I remember going into that,
that that parking lot at like 8:00 in the morning and
tailgating with like the 3540 dudes, a lot of firemen's and
cops and a couple of my good buddies who were on Wall Street,
whatever. But we had an awesome mix and we
would get there. I mean, the sun was barely up
and we're tailgating like animals and we go into the
stadium and you know, I'm back in the day, you know, before
911, you know, we stick some beers in your pocket because
they had that big, that big like garbage, that big plastic
garbage thing, which they still have.
So you like, you'd hammer one and then because you can't walk
in with a beer, you'd hammer it. Then you throw it in the trash
bin, that big bin. But then you'd have like two or
three tucked in your belt and they wouldn't check it because
it was pre 911. And I just remember going into
that game and waking up that morning and that whole year,
like this is our year. Because The Jets had never even
won a division until 1998. That was their first divisional
title ever. And you know, think about the
trajectory here. The the 90 set, the 9016 was
obviously 1 and 15 with Co tight.
Then 97 Parcells comes and they still had Adrian Morel.
They got Curtis Martin with that poison pill contract the next
year. But in 97, The Jets went nine
and seven. And that's Bill's first year and
training camp that I remember the energy.
I used to go to Hofstra's training camp to watch him and
it was just magical man. And and eventually 98 Binny took
over And the crazy thing is they went 12 and four and I believe
they started over 2. I know they lost the first game
in San Fran. I was in Myrtle Beach playing
golf with my buddies on on our annual trip and I'm like, I
ain't playing golf today. I'm watching The Jets.
Like they went and played and a couple of guys hung back with me
and we were we were going to play 36.
I'm like, I'm going to I'm going to get wings and I'm watching
The Jets. There's no way I'm playing golf
again. I played this morning, didn't
play well, I't watch Parcells Jets and it was an awesome game
and Glenn Foley threw a couple of touchdowns, Keyshawn had one,
Corbett had one and then Garrison Hurst in overtime
ripped off. I think it was a 96 yard
touchdown run that I believe MO Lewis was the one who had the
best chance to get him and he kind of whipped like he got him
from the side as Garrison was going up the flats.
And from there, then I think they lost to either the Ravens
or the Rams with Tony Banks. And then the first win was at
home. Did they start the first two
years on the road that year? I guess they did because I went
to the home opener, obviously, and they played the Colts and
they won like they scored like 40 something points.
And I remember Leon Johnson, who they drafted out of North
Carolina. They used to call him the
natural Leon Johnson running back, special teams guy, Luke
Gadget guy, and he caught us. And now Vinny's starting.
He's like, I think Glenn Foley got hurt and Parcells put in
Vinny and the offense just went to a different level and Vinny
had an amazing season and Leon Johnson had like a 50 or 60 yard
catch and run screen pass and it was on.
And then every game just got more and more believable and
exciting in 98. And this was after a fun 97.
And I really thought that that was the year.
And of course it wasn't breaking news.
Spoiler was not the year. J Rod.
Heartbreaker we got. We got our main man.
I'm excited about this on Avery Summit calling in.
We got Avery Summit calling in, bro.
I'm so excited. I love it.
All right, man. Now he always, yeah, he always
chats us up. He's he's one of the first
people to to ever really, you know what?
Not jumped in early with BT and Lee.
She's there from day one. And even more important, he's a
Marine park guy, which is where I'm from.
So Avery from BK. What up, Avery?
How you doing buddy? Hey BT, an honor to be on your
first live call day. Pleasure interacting with you
guys all along. Actually, you've been awesome.
Thank you, ma'am. My pleasure, I really enjoy the
give and take with you guys. I go back to the 1050 days with
Stephen A and something that stuck out about you as opposed
to some others, let's say on sports talk, is that yes, you
definitely could, you know, make fun of yourself.
Don't take yourself too seriously, but at the same time
your sports obsessed, your sports obsessed and like as the
industry has gone more towards gimmicky, more entertainment,
non sports related on the sports stations.
I told my friends, I said you want your doctor to not be
obsessed with medicine. You don't want your accountant
to be obsessed with numbers. You want your sports got to be
obsessed with sports and that's what's out with me all the way
from the 1050 days and I just. Thought wow the 1050 days Avery
I well I I appreciate they'll I got a point to make a possible
no, absolutely I'm not going to hang up buddy, but I got got you
man those there's no commercials.
I go as long as I want. It's different.
I mean there's there's sponsors, but it's like I had to break by
a certain that there was no especially on no rules Friday.
Yeah, maybe I'll let you host the show with me at some point.
The, the early 1050 days were wild, man like that.
And I, I loved all those guys. And maybe you remember I was
with Wally in the key doing the updates to start.
You probably remember those guys, 2 great guys.
And then obviously doing the stuff with Stephen A and doing
my night show and working with Jody Mack.
I mean, I was, I was there 10 or 11 years and I remember it was
so you know, I talked about this with, with Donnie and Michael
when I had both of them on the show.
If you guys missed it going through the channel library and
you'll find both and Stephen A as well where the, we had such a
strong lineup, but our signal was so bad nobody can hear us.
Like you got certain parts of Long Island, Manhattan.
I mean, we were doing tinfoil and and a hanger, but you think
about some of the names and I'm going to take myself out of it.
Michael K, Stephen A, Donnie, Donnie Lagreca, Max later on.
I mean, we had some hitters in that lot of men.
That was a good time. I love 1050.
Yeah, that was loaded. So just quick point if possible.
There's some interesting similarities between the McMahon
situation with the Yankees and Cat with the Knicks.
Just hear me out on this one. If you remember leading up to
the Yankees getting McMahon the names that they had at third
base since a rod was gone, you got Kevin, you Kelly Johnson,
Headley, Brandon Jury and do our and or Shella gave a little bit
of a you know, a break. Then you had Donaldson washed up
D. Donaldson.
Oswaldo Cabrera So the Yankees were in a position where, like
you always say, you got to give Judge the pieces.
And when they things came to the head, the only one available to
be a a you know, a body at third base was McMahon.
His flaws were his flaws. And like you always say, that's
not going to change once you're in the league for so many years.
And in the same way with Cat, what they do they the Knicks,
they traded away, they traded for OG, right?
That set the team on a better path, right?
That was a great move. And Brunson was really coming to
his own and he was taking the team and they needed that, that
that that last piece, that one A to Brunson even.
And the only one available in that moment was Cat.
We knew his flaws. He's been in the league for a
decade, but that was the best move in the moment and you can't
blame the player for who they are and who they're not.
That's what the front office moves both the Yankees made with
McMahon and the Knicks made with Cat, and that's what we're stuck
with it both. But the Knicks, it's obviously a
bigger piece and we'll see where that goes with the playoffs.
But McMahon is who he is. Yep, you know, Stephen A brought
that up too, because when I had Stephen on Stephen, I was Steven
was on for about two hours. Avery right.
And you know, I didn't if you if you've watched the interviews
that I'm, I'm sure that you have because you you're absolutely
you've been locked in from day one.
You know, whether it's Donnie or or Michael or I had Nikki
Ladarullo on some other people in the media, like I don't want
to do an interview. So Steven, especially when I'm
boys with somebody. Steven.
Well, what do you think of the Knicks chances of winning the
championship? Like that's boring.
I want I want to talk. I want to I want to have a long,
deep conversation. And we really did.
We actually didn't even really talk that much.
Knicks, if you if you watched it.
But the one thing that he did say about the Knicks and I
straight up asked him, I said, Hey, I said, you think cat soft.
Do you think cat soft? And his answer was very
interesting. No, he's not soft.
He's just playing the way that he's always played like a guy
who's now you know what I mean? And and and that's that is on
the Knicks if it doesn't work out because you can't acquire
somebody and expect them to change who they are.
Like you didn't get Ryan McMahon even even though we thought he'd
be better than this, because he's awful.
He's not going to be Greg Metals.
He's not going to be Wade Boggs. You know, he'd be Charlie Hayes.
You're not going to be a Rod, that's for damn sure.
So he's going to catch the ball. You hope he runs into some home
runs and you hope he hits two 35240.
If they thought he was going to be more than that, and at this
point you you do cartwheels over two 35240, then you're wrong.
If you thought the cat was going to be Charles Oakley or or
Patrick Ewing in the paint, you didn't watch cat of Kentucky,
didn't want cat. You don't watch cat and at at at
at the with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
So I think it's a salient point and I, I think a lot of us, a
lot of people lose sight of, you know, especially when you are
beyond two or three years in a league.
Like you can make adjustments as you're a young player,
especially as a hitter or as a young pitcher.
And in the NBA, you can get stronger, expand your game,
become a better shooter. You can always increase and add
like things to your repertoire. But fundamentally, who you are,
that's not going to change. Do we expect Mikhail Bridges
next year to begin no matter what he does?
He could pump weight. He can do the jailhouse workout,
1000 push ups every day, bench press every day.
He could go to UFC and Street Fight every day if he wants.
He's never gonna take 7 free throws a game because he doesn't
attack the win that. Way in a similar way.
He gotta know. Is the same because he is who he
was, what was his, what were his pros.
He was always available. He was a good two way place good
and the reason why he was more valuable to the Knicks is
because he had that Nova connection and he was available
at the time and that's what he got.
But he is who he is. He's not anything less than we
really thought he would be. He was scoring 20 on the Nets
because the Nets were terrible, so someone had to score the ball
on the Nets. So it's the same way.
He is who he is. That's all we got.
Hey, where'd you are now? I know you're in Marine Park
now. Is that where you grew up, man
or no? No, no, I'm guilty as charged.
I knew I would. If I wrote Marine Park, I'd
catch your eye, but I'm a. Queen, you're but, but you're in
Marine Park now. Yeah, up by Quinton Rd.
So not like closer to the Midwood.
Section by Madison Mad Oh, but so for not by Madison by Midwood
High School. By like Quinton and the
Nostrand. These are easy questions, Avery.
We already got past the heart stuff that's coming very on just
to. Give you a little bit of a
little bit of background. I wasn't on your scene.
I'm from the same tribe as Dove, so I'm from a different.
Gotcha. Oh my man, Dove.
Gotcha. So.
I'm not in that world. I got you.
Hopefully you had a good Passover, man.
I got you. All good, dude.
Nice. I'll talk to you soon.
Thanks for the call. I appreciate you.
There you go. I mean, J Rod.
We're cooking with gas, bro. This is sick.
We got, we got another dude coming up in a second.
I love it, man. I mean, I feel it.
I feel it. Can you feel that?
Can you feel the the the elevation of the of the show
just a little with the gaming? Yeah, dude, it's sick.
I mean, listen, you know, because I there's something
else. We added this.
Well, not only I guess the backdrop's looking killer now.
I mean, it's looking great, your background.
Yeah, we're there. We're getting there.
I feel like the production value this week, like at least went up
at least almost double, like I'd say like 95 percent, 99%,
something about just the value. I think we just took a jump.
OK, so I love it, man. All right, I had a boy.
I I don't disagree. All right, keep the calls coming
in. What do we got?
Who's up next on Unleashed? BT On BT Unleashed.
Talk to me. I almost called you BT.
Up next, I got to pull them in still, but we've got Robert, so
that's going to be like another. Man, all right, Just pop them up
when you're ready. It's all good.
It's all good, all good. We'll get Robert up a little bit
there at Rod Power 78. Have you ever done a workout
with Tiki and how exhausting was it?
No, I cannot do a Tiki workout. I want to get Tiki on the show.
I'd I'd like to get him next week at some point before the
Giants pick. The one thing about Tiki, I
mean, Tiki looks like Zeus. Tiki looks amazing, man.
There was a point when we were working together nationally
where he dropped out of like 180 something.
But he's running a lot of marathons.
Remember he ran a marathon in Israel.
I, I think he, he made some international trips to run
marathons, maybe London. I'm, I'm pretty sure it was
Israel, not Australia. Was it, was it Australia?
And he just really thinned out. And then Tig, he's like, all
right, man, I got to get, I got to get those arms pop in his
chest. He's, he just looks like he's, I
mean, he looks like he's 30. And the thing about Tig, I mean,
listen, I mean, I've known him long enough and I could play
with him. Can you wear a tighter shirt,
though? I understand you want to show
things off and I understand that.
Like I'll wear, you know, tight teeth, not tight, tight, not
like him because I don't look anything like him, but I'll wear
AT shirt that's got a little little grab to it, because I'm I
like the chest and you know, it's it's the love handles you
got to cover up and the little pencil legs that I have here.
But you know, you had nice little tight T-shirt and show
off the 110th of a gun that I have.
But that guy, I mean he he now he doesn't dress like he's going
clubbing all right, because he's not that kind of guy.
He's a real family man, but I mean, he could wear he could go
to it looks like he's going to the limelight back in the day.
So or or the tunnel. Some of those shirts he wears
men. There is no shirt that is too
tight for that guy. So no, I never did a workout
with Tiki. But what we would do and it was
so funny, man. And we did this for the 10 years
that we worked. Yet he will he will tell you
this, right. And there was a point for I
think it stopped a little bit at the fan because I, I had an, an
arm issue. What else is new Always hurt.
I would do push ups every single break the moment.
So we start the show at 10 and we go to break.
You know, I was usually late with the break.
Well, we go to break. It was supposed to be 1020.
It's 1022 drop down to 30 or 40. So then come back, you know,
break it 10:40 if I remember 1040 something, whatever might
be, I don't know, do 30 or 40 more the whole show.
And when I'm doing that, he's doing like planks, he's doing
different shit, he's stretching out.
He's doing like this, not not jiu jitsu, but he's doing this
crazy yoga stuff like the flexibility that that man still
has at the age his birthday was the other day as a happy
birthday to tik. I think he just turned 51.
It's crazy. I mean, but that see, that's the
difference. Like that dude was born an
athlete and he had to work for tiki wrestle when he was in high
school. So did Ronde.
But I've always said, you know, certain guys, certain athletes,
right, are touched with 1010 fingers by God in terms of
athleticism, where they've just got a certain elasticity to
their tendons. So they don't pull things
they've got, you know, they're proportional.
They they, if they can run, if they've got natural muscle tone,
I had none of that. I was tight as a drum.
I had to work for any muscle that I ever got.
And they're not very flexible. So so he was touched with 10
fingers. You know, got like Mike Trout,
Aaron Judge, 10 fingers, Jeter, 10 fingers, a rod, 10 fingers
me. I probably had maybe 6, maybe
something like that. Jay, that's one.
How many did you have? How many fingers did you get?
It what in terms of my athletic prowess from God?
Yeah, 2345 what? Do you like the shaving off his
pinky nail? No.
All right, let's see. In terms of like my mid range
jumper, right? That's pretty good.
That's what we've got. I've got a mid range.
Jumper. That's it.
That's my athletic. You're one of those guys where
you know, you're drawn up sides, you're you play well.
I don't know that I don't know that your generation played in
the schoolyard like or the park like we did.
You know, probably more nice, nice gyms and stuff for for the
most part. Or somebody's backyard, right?
Probably. Open gym like yeah like rec
center type vibes. So you had a good place to go.
OK Jay, Rod's the kind of guy if you don't know him, you're not
picking him first cuz you know, he's not, he's not that
lightning quick point guard or that big center who's gonna die.
But then you get him on your team, you're like, oh, he could,
he could bury that. He could hit that 15.
I could see you being a good shooter.
No, it would be like no, you always talk about the mid range.
Pick me kind of 2nd to last, last, but then you'd be like all
right, like he scored like 6 points off of a couple, you
know, mid range jumpers. He did his thing.
Listen, there we go. All right.
We've got, we've got a couple. What are?
We guys in the, in the, in the, what's it called in the dugout
right here. In the queue.
In the queue.
Yep, in the queue we got all right, let's get them up, man.
Let's let's hammer through some calls pop them up there.
Jay, this is great. I love we could.
I told you guys we were going to do this.
I told you I told you we were going to do this.
Rob is the What's that, Jay? That was him that wasn't.
I got you. I got you.
I'm sorry. That's all right.
Thank you. Good.
Robertson, Stratford, CT. Rob, welcome to BT Unleash, man.
What's going on? So I just got 2 main questions
for you, honestly concerning the Yankees.
One was I think Boone has to take a harder line on these guys
taking the challenges I did not like in that game that early,
losing both our challenges like that.
Yeah, I saw that too. They yeah, Jazz has been awful.
I think he's challenged 6 and he's missed 5 like he's
basically missed everyone. That's an interesting point.
I I think, and I'll let you get to your next point.
Obviously, Rob, listen, it's a new thing and there's certain
hitters you get to trust more. It's not it, you know, it's not
like high school or even college where like you're 3 or 4 hitter
all right, green light 3 O you get something you like something
you can drive. Go for it where you 8 hitter,
you give them the take sign, right.
You know, they take 1. So it, it it's they're they're
major leaguers. They're going to have that that
latitude until they prove that they really don't deserve it.
So it's a work in progress and it's fairly inexact because none
of these guys came up with it in the minors, you know, exposed to
it during spring training. You know, from a managerial
perspective, from a player perspective, I think at the end
of the day, I think that the Yankees, I think most teams will
figure it out. And I think when you get to
higher leverage games and certainly higher leverage
moments like September, October, you want to make sure I would
imagine that it would be communicated.
Yo, don't burn what in the first inning on a one O pitch.
You know, let's, let's keep a few of the bags. 7th, 8th, 9th
inning. And I think that Boom will do
that yes. And I think most will.
And the second point I just want to say was what do you think
about the Yankees could do to fix the bullpen because we are
lost at sea out there. You got to get new guys.
It's it's that simple. Thanks for the call there, Rob.
I appreciate you checking in Connecticut.
You got it, man. Thank you.
They're bullpens. It's horrendous.
I mean, you know, I mean, listen here, I've said for a couple
days now, I'm like, you know, I, I like bet nor I trust better
and I do. But like, that's the guy that
you trust. And I, and I like Fernando Cruz.
I've always liked him. I like his energy.
He was good from last year. He's got that nasty splitter
when it's on, no one's touching it, but they battled against
them this this Angel series. But I, I do trust him.
I don't know if I trust him in the 8th inning, you know, 21 up
a run and up in Toronto in the playoffs, but I do trust him.
Duvall just ain't working. Birds sent to the minors.
You've got a lot of guys who throw gas in the miners who will
be up here. So I do believe that there.
And when I say gas, I mean one O 1 gas, not 98 gas, one O 1.
I mean, just hitting triple digits with filthy stuff.
So I think there's some internal solutions.
And then, and I was talking about this on the show Monday or
Tuesday, it came up. The other thing that's going to
change is, you know, when Garrett Cole comes back, when
Carlos Rodon comes back, you're going to have not me.
You can mess around with the order, however, but you know,
Freed 1, Colt 2, Schlitzler 3, Rodon 4.
And then, you know, I think Louis Giel is much more equipped
to go to the bullpen myself. I even think that will Warren
eventually is going to lose his spot.
And I think I believe he will be a really good like 6th and 7th
inning guy or or an option. Because the problem with what
Will Warren's got good stuff. He's got some good swinging
missed stuff. And I know Boone likes, but I
like him. But he always has that one
inning where it's like like they're up and then he has a 27
pitch inning and it just he laborers a little bit and he
kind of nibbles and they foul a few like can't put guys away.
The pitch count goes up. I think ultimately he is in the
bullpen. And I think that ultimately
Clark Schmidt, who was way behind Colin Rodon coming back,
I believe ultimately Clark Schmidt will be the 5th pitcher
for the Yankees or maybe they make a trade.
But I, I think, listen, you're going to have provided the
Yankees make the playoffs And, and I believe that they will.
I had them as a 95 win team coming in.
I don't know if I feel 95 right now, but I'll stick with it.
We'll see. It's early.
I think you'll have three new arms, 3 new bullpen arms.
And I believe one will be acquired and I believe 2 will
be, you know, this, this Yankee staff iteration will you'll see
some moving parts and some shifting of roles.
And and I do think it will get better.
I do. Yeah, I do for sure.
You know, and we got here, pop this up at JT Bombers.
What's going on, JT? All right, BT St.
John's. I don't.
I don't, I don't. I know.
OK, I know. Don't worry.
It's Rick Pitino. We've got four players on the
roster. Rumor has it we paid 4 million
for a euro point guard. 575 to seven players have visited.
No signings. I am worried this will be the
easiest thing for me to say today.
You know, even the Yankee bullpen description.
What else? The Mets talking about the
Knicks getting ready for the Hawks?
That right there is the easiest thing I will face all weekend.
Have zero fear about what St. John's is going to do in the
portal. Have no reservations about Rick
Pitino's ability to build another superpower.
And I believe it's going to be better, even though Zoobie's
going to be sorely missed, man, few of those guys going to be
missed. Like, I was kind of hoping Santa
would come back, but he just didn't play well.
I'm sorry. And you know, every I was saying
to Mink, like, you know, I remember saying the first
broadcast, I'm like, I believe Mink at the end of the year,
Santa is going to be the best shooter on the team.
Like that's what he was, you know, described as.
And I saw him a little bit at Arizona State for Bobby Hurley.
I saw a lot of film, you know, a lot, I read a lot of draft
reports on Sadden, who was, you know, 65, good strong body.
A lot of people thought that and, and I, I guess still do
that he's going to be an NBA player.
I just, I don't see it. I thought that was wildly
overstated. What he can't get to the rim,
like he never comfortably gets to the rim.
I don't think he's got a good handle at all.
And I'm not trying to disparage him, but he just was not good
enough. The fact that Ian Jackson's
coming back, who I love as a 2 guard and you get the Euro kid
Quinn, who is 6 foot 5 and has played against grown men
professionally for seven years. Saint John's back.
Court's going to be insane. Now the other thing you got to
understand too, I know other teams have brought players in
and other like the Big East is the the actually Providence is
at a really good run in the portal.
So they popped a little bit. Rick's son's done some good
things to Xavier. You know, Seton Hall's lost a
little bit, gained a little bit, but they're in a tough spot
without a ton of NIL. It looks like Marquette's going
to be a little bit more active this year.
But I think that, well, I know that it's all mapped out, man.
They know who they want. They've got in this case, I
don't, I don't know how many years this goes on, but as long
as Rick Pitino's coaching, they've got a limitless
checkbook. Like Mike Ripoli is going to
write whatever check Rick wants. If Rick and Mike Ripoli said it,
he did the one of those, one of those Q&A's with Steve Serbi in
the post, a couple of the, well, I guess it was about a month or
so ago going into the tournament.
And he's like, if Rick asks for money, I will wake up in the
middle of the night and I will wire the money.
So last year they were at about $10 million.
This year I'm here and they're going to go up to about 12 or
so. Could be thirteen, could be 15.
I mean, Kentucky, Kentucky. Now that a different argument is
that's good for college basketball.
It's horrendous for college but stinks.
I mean, there's no consistency. It's got to be exhausting.
I mean, Rick is 7273 now. He looks great and he's always
like, I'm like a lot of times I'm getting ready to interview
him to do the TV show and he's coming off the bike.
Like Rick is he he projects youthfully.
Thank God. He's he's healthy.
You know, he's keeps himself in shape.
He's thin, like cardiovascularly.
He's he, he's very energetic and all that stuff.
He's got great energy just in terms of how he talks.
But you're still 7273. It's not going to be doing this
for 10 years. And I'll tell you, man, to be a
college coach, I don't care how much money you're getting.
It's a different job. And I know money does change a
lot, but it does strip away at the enjoyment, in the enjoyment,
especially somebody. And Rick is renowned for this,
but there's others too. Maybe not quite to Rick's level,
but if you're a guy who's known for player development, you know
your best work is going to be all right.
You bring in the freshman, play 789 minutes the game, but you
really like them. You know, toughen them up, get
him in the weight room, teach him the system, come back as a
SOB more like Donovan Mitchell at Louisville.
That's the story that everybody points to in terms of his.
But there's many others. Silva.
There's many others with Rick. Billy Donovan back in the day
with Providence, he was chubby. He was slow.
Rick slimmed them out, got him to the final four and 87.
Bill Billy a great back then saying something Big East
player, but now it's like you don't really get that at all
because outside of Zubi who played 5 minutes at Kansas and
then he did what he did is eventually the next three years
at Saint John's player of the year in the conference, Kareem
Abdul Jabbar award winner, best big man in the in the in the in
the country. So the point is that like Rick's
greatest strength is marginalized because he just
doesn't get the time and he loves that.
Like he actually works out with them.
I don't know if you guys know this, but I can tell you maybe
some other teams do this. Most don't.
St. John's, they had their team
practice, say at 3:30 and in the morning they've got, I think
it's 45 or 50 minute individual workouts.
The guards come in, then the forwards come in, then the other
bigs come in. And it's literally attention to
detail specific to the position and it's advanced stuff and Rick
is in the middle of it all. So as long as Rick's got the
energy and as long as Rick's got the bank, do not worry about St.
John's. St.
John's. I think St.
John's because their backcourt's going to be so much better.
I think St. John's will be better next year,
even though Zoobie's going to be gone with.
States There we go. Yeah, no, I mean, they'll be
able to bring some guys in. All right, We've got a we've got
a line. Yeah, we've got a line of
callers right here. All right, man, how many we got
here? Let's bang out, I'd say about
the. 5. So I mean, keep those up.
No more, no more new ones. So.
No more new. Ones no we'll hit these we'll
we'll hit these all right get them up let me see what we got
there Jay. I got to be honest, this has
worked out very smoothly here. I I wasn't sure, but it's been
well, as I say that way I get to see the egg, the whatever avatar
that was Tommy is in Apex NC. I I've been to Carolina bunch.
Where in the world is Apex? Give me what major city is it
next to? I don't know the answer to that.
It's about 20 miles South of Raleigh.
Got it. All right, that's good country
out there. What's happening, buddy?
Welcome to Unleash. What do you got?
Thank you, buddy. Yeah, big, big fan of yours.
Just want to bring it back to the draft.
I'm a big Giants fan, so talking before about the Giants trading
Dexter Lawrence, I'm I'm fully for that.
I, I, I think though, probably going to have to get a 27 first
round draft pick as opposed to a 26.
I'm thinking. So I'm just wondering if back
even the first pick at #5 you know, to build up 27 capital and
then just trying to make a Big X offseason, you know, with the
with, with the draft. Yeah, how this team plays out.
Well, let me let me throw this at your top.
I don't mean to interrupt you there.
I want to, I don't want to lose this thought here.
To me, it really depends on how patient you and you sound fairly
patient. You want to punch the 27 with
the picks, which I think is a good philosophy.
Like there are some Giant fans who are like, I want to win.
And I get it. We all want to win now.
But like, I'm thinking bigger pitch with horribaugh and with
dart and neighbors and a better old line and some, you know,
sprinkled in some player like the Giants will be a little bit
better this year just because they're gonna have much better
coaching. But it seems like you're OK with
a more gradual, like more effective plotted out rebuild
rather than going for everything this year.
Is. Is that an accurate depiction of
what you're thinking #1? It is, yes.
OK, I think that that's smart. I don't know why though.
You couldn't get a number one and it's going to be, you know,
middle, first round late. You're not getting I don't think
inside the top 17 or so. So probably in the 20s if you
could find somebody. But why wouldn't you want the
pick now? Why don't you think they could
do it now? You got six days to the draft.
He wants out. Giants want a certain a certain
price point so they're willing to trade him and he wants out.
So why can't you get a? Why can't you make a trade
before next Thursday? Yeah, like I said, I think, I
think the thought is just build for a long term rather than just
immediate and with what everyone projecting that the 27 draft
will be so much deeper at all the positions.
You know, I know you never know, but you know that that's.
Exactly. That's the biggest draft, a
bigger draft than this one. Then kind of build your assets.
You'll still get somebody if you, especially if you move back
off the first pick that they have in this one, you know, get
somebody maybe 5 to 10 and still pick up like that, that corner
or pick or or if downs drops to 10, you know, kind of pick
somebody up, feel good and then build up your assets.
Give Harbaugh another season to kind of go through what he has.
And then this way when we see how much a team changes for next
season, you know, build from there.
Yep. I like it.
I think that's a good philosophy.
There you go, Tommy. Appreciate the call.
Have a good weekend, Tommy, out in North Carolina.
Thank you. Yeah, I mean, think about this.
Like, to me, there's a few elements at play here anytime
that you enter a, a either disjointed or moribund losing
situation, like, like the Giants have been.
And that's what John Horrible's inheriting.
The difference is he's coming in with 1/4, unlike Aaron Glenn and
some others, he's coming up with a quarterback that we all think
if he stays healthy is going to be phenomenal.
I, I mean, I can't tell you how much I love Jackson Thorne.
I love him, right? But even with that and, and
neighbors and some other things that we all like it, but you
know, scatterball, hopefully it's going to be OK.
He should be. But the the first year is
generally generally like an evaluation of like, all right,
there's six to eight guys that we like, but I don't know if we
want to really marry him. Let's see him play for a year.
Let's see what their practice habits are.
Let's see how they are in film. Let's see, are they a good
teammate? Are they buying into what John
Harbaugh is doing? And if they do, then they stay.
And if they don't, then they're gone.
So the first year is going to be a little bit of a balance of
that, but but also trying to collect some assets and and also
put out a more formidable team, which I think they'll be able to
do. Yeah, yeah, I mean that that's,
that's a pretty good thought. Guy J pop up the next one.
What do you got? You've got Benji from the Upper
East. Upper East Side.
Benji in the house, a little Manhattan.
Benji. Welcome to unleash.
What's up, Benji? Thanks BT I appreciate it man.
First off, JJ has become a buddy of mine.
I was on his pod in July. Anthony Donnie, he's been my
buddy since 2009 when we we linked up at a Knicks Wizards
game at the disgraceful Verizon Center back when Al Harrington
was sitting out injured that game.
So he he we go way back. Anyway, I.
I see. Wait.
Hey, now. Hold on.
Now.
Now, Rice Bowl. I've known Donahue.
I love him. Just just just got down on his
knee the other day. I saw that he's became a dad.
I love him. He's a great person.
I I I knew his sister Gianna pretty well.
Like, I would see her a lot when she was little.
I love everything about rice balls.
He's just a great person and a great, great nick guy.
And Jji got to get JJ on the show.
JJ is a dude, man. So JJ was next to me.
Did you hear that? You heard the story when
Francesa almost killed me with the golf ball when I was.
Playing when? I was playing OK, me, Sal and
and JJ JJ was a foot away from me and and JJ is a trip man.
I love his energy, love sports, great guy, good guy to play golf
with fun. So those are two good name drops
now what do you got there, Bench?
I appreciate it, man. Yeah.
Well, I also want to say I've been following basically since
you've been doing shows in December and it's been awesome
to see the the ascension of everything that you've done to
get to this point. Thank you.
The the Knicks in my life in addition to my to my friends and
my family. My.
Friends, I've been a 117 in the last 139, not including pre
season. I think it's really refreshing
to go into these series like this series.
We go into the series with a clear advantage and a clear
weapon and cat now you know, I'm like the biggest cat fan there
is. I wear #32 on my back at every
game. And I, and I know you've had,
you've taken issue with him a couple months ago, but I do want
to say that I do think, I mean, I want to see, I'm so wrapped up
for tomorrow, but I want obviously we'll be there.
I want to see him get the ball. I know this isn't going to
happen, but he's got to get the ball.
The 1st four or five possessions.
We got to make Atlanta work. We got to make them scramble.
There's there's no possible way Okong who can guard him at 6:10
and even from the backup standpoint, because Landale's
injured, they have Tony Bradley, who I probably have better
players on my on my Urban League team than Tony Bradley.
So I'm not scared at all about anything that I think Cats can
absolutely dominate and I think Mitch is going to have an
incredible series as well. So I'm super excited and and I
wanted to get your thoughts on this as well.
Have you ever I in my experience, I was born in 81.
I'm not sure I've ever seen a New York sports team have this
much pressure on them going into a playoff run than this current
team has given what's at stake with the coach, Foster just
knowing, just knowing where the various players are, like
Bridges is 29, Cats 30, Hearts 31, Brunson is 29.
All these guys are at like the end of their prime or like just
getting to the point where you got to look at like early 30s
and you know what that means. So just want to get your take on
that. But super revved up, man.
Let's wrap this series up and let's keep moving, man.
We got to get this title. Let's go.
Hi, Benji. Great call.
Checking in from Manhattan. Thank you very much.
Benji. I appreciate you making that
call, dude. Thank you.
I also wanted to say I think I threw this out here.
One of the things that I do is I take a different person sits
with me every game. OK.
So JJ went to a game with me against Orlando early in, yeah,
November. We lost, actually.
So I don't know if JJ is invited back.
I'm just kidding, but. I'm a good luck charm.
I bring some wins. Well, let me let me know if
you're down to down to come and to one of these games I'll send
I'll shoot you a note. We take it day by day but I'm
obviously going with my wife tomorrow but as this is going to
be a long run and going to take us into June so just let me know
and we'll get it locked in bro no.
Question. That's really generous, man.
I might take you up on that, Benji.
We, we, we, we might have to link up on this dude.
Thank you for the call. Let's go mix.
No doubt about that. Appreciate it.
Yeah, Benji checking in. So, you know his last.
Now, the cat stuff I don't fully agree with.
Obviously, he's a massive cat fan, a massive cat supporter
believer. I mean, I'm rooting for him and
I know he's talented. I don't believe in him nearly as
much as Benji does, but but that's what makes the world
spin. I do agree with the point about
getting them engaged early. I think that that's important.
I think the one thing that worries me from a defensive
point of view, and I mentioned this earlier in the show, Dyson
Daniels is 6/7 and 1/2 and he's going to really run at Bronson
quite a bit, which is going to give him a different look and
could frustrate him. Are you talking, you know, 3-4
inches taller and, and a good defender and they were good
rebounding team. Their offense isn't great.
They're pretty good defensive team, Although I I do think
there's an advantageous matchup and and Benji reference this in
the middle for cat now. I'd like to see him get the ball
early. Not that you force it, but I'm
I'm a believer that, especially when there's somebody who's so
important, but tends to fluctuate in terms of usage
rate. Get him engaged early, man.
Get him an easy open look for three.
Get him something at the rim. Nothing's going to post up like
Patrick, but get him in a favorable matchup baseline, a
little jump shot, foul line, extended work that pick and
roll, which has been more and more evident as the years gone
on, which gives me some confidence that Knicks could go
on a deep run here. But his main point that I agree
with is that there's going to be no one between.
That's how I started the show. It's either going to be
euphoric. You know, Knicks get to the NBA
Finals and and win. And even if they don't, it would
still be unpacked as as a terrific year took another step.
You know, probably lost to a better Thunder team, whatever it
might because they match up well with Denver if it's Denver.
But I don't want to get put the cart too far in front of the
horse here. But euphoria or it's going to be
a Wrecking Ball because Mike Brown's going to be gone.
Cat's going to be gone. Maybe Bridges is gone.
So, yeah, this and his point about, and I don't think it's
hyperbolic. I think he's on to something
like when he talks about this being like the most pressure
that a New York sports team has faced going into a playoff.
He said he was born in 81. Yeah.
I mean, really think about this like the Yankees didn't have a
ton of press, not many championships.
So you could start with a short list.
But like the 96 championship for the Yankees that that Braves,
they had an all time pitching staff, Maddox, Smoltz, the
Avery, even Glavin, of course, Bobby Cox, Hall of Fame manager.
Jeez, you have players everywhere and the Yankees beat
them, but there wasn't pressure. You know, maybe when they fell
behind O2 and George went into Dory's office like what's going
on? He's like, hey, we're going to
win the next three. We're going to we'll probably
lose tonight as well. He's did that after game one.
Joe, what's going on? Yeah, I hear you, George.
We're probably going to lose tonight as well.
I'm going to go down to Atlanta, win three straight, come back
and win it in Game 6, which is what happened.
But there wasn't palpable pressure because the Yankees the
the year before had made the wild card and that was exciting
and they hadn't been in the playoffs in a while. 94, there
was no World Series. So and then, but they had a
really good team. And then just by getting to the
World Series in 96, the the pressure was kind of off because
it was Joe's first year. I the only other thing that
really jumps out, I mean, yeah, even Carmelo's 54 win season
with Woodson and those guys. No, I don't know.
I'm not really. Maybe don't you have to look at
the 2000 Subway Series? I mean, Derek Jeter always says
he's like it, it really wasn't enjoyable.
Like we had to win. Like there's no way, especially
then when you were so far or I'm so much closer to the dynasty.
969899. If the Yankees would have lost
to the Mets, who had different ownership, didn't have the
profile, even though they stink so far this year.
But you know, the the Mets have a different perception about
them since Cohen bought them back then.
You know, even though they had good players, Piazza was great,
couple of really, really good players.
But it's just that like they just couldn't shine the Yankees
shoes. Like the Yankees were beast and
the Mets were scrappy and had some talented players.
I'm not trying to disparage you, but it was a different
evaluation. And if they would have lost that
to the Mets, not that I don't think there was as much pressure
on the Mets. I mean, if the Mets beat the
Yankees, forget about it. Like that would have been the
culmination and take over the city like they did in 86 and
Mets fans would be thumping their chest and you know it.
It would be think about it this way, like the Mets lose, all
right, whatever happened happened.
If the Yankees would have lost that, George would have lost his
mind. And Jeter even spoke to that.
He's like, it really wasn't fun. The pressure.
He's like, we would have lost to the Mets, but we couldn't show
our face. So outside of that, like even
the Rangers with, you know, with with Henrik Lundquist, I mean,
there was pressure to get him a championship, but they never had
the offense around them. Too many times he had to just
stand on his head and you know, 3538 saves.
I mean, win 1, nothing, lose 1, nothing, win 2, nothing.
You get an empty net gold. I mean, but every game was nip
and tuck. So it wouldn't be the Rangers,
not the Islanders. You know, since the early 80s
with the four, you know, Devils have a couple of the
championships, obviously, but not that pretty.
No, you might be right. You, I think you frame that
really, really well. I would agree.
All right, last call or. Two more.
Yeah, Last call, it's Evan at the Pinstripe Bugle calling in
from C. Oh, good, good.
Yeah, I know Evan follows be on Instagram and he pops in a lot
and he follows the show and he's got his own content.
Evan, welcome to Unleash buddy. What's going on, man?
How we doing BT Thank you so much for having me.
My pleasure. I like your work.
You guys are doing good stuff. Yeah, I appreciate you very
much. I'm a huge fan.
I love seeing Unleashed everyday, You know, you know,
then take that next step, 2 quick points.
That'll be really quick for you. When you were talking about how
you know the Yankees should make a move for, you know, that kind
of impact player like Mike Trout, I totally agree with you,
but I don't think it's a player like Trout you.
Know his. Age and his injury history in
that contract is something that could cripple the whole team.
You know if there is a salary cap.
OK, OK, now, now, now, I would almost guess that the name
you're going to give me is Tatis.
To be honest with you, I don't know if there is a name out
there right now that a team would give up.
And I think that's why my next kind of point was we're kind of
stuck, you know, the landscape of the league.
Not I don't see many teams making moves of that caliber
with the unwillingness to know what's going into next season.
And that's what scares me about, you know, this year.
Yeah, man, I mean, it's yeah, I mean, there's a lot of fiscal
uncertainty for next year. Listen, Evan, if I own the
Yankees, I would just say screw it, man.
You know, I'll deal with the the work stoppage, the new CB.
I'll deal with that when I got a deal with it.
I'm going out there and I'm getting my man, somebody who who
I know could bat in front of them or really behind them.
And, and, and it is, is an elite superstar, whatever it takes,
whoever you got to give up outside of Lombard and
Schlittler, take anybody else in the system.
And there's some good young arms as you know, take them like I,
I, I, I know you had Soto for a year and you got to the World
Series and Judge had some moments that we're not good, but
you just like, you can't keep half stepping it.
They've got to go all in and, and but they're not going to
like we've screamed about this forever.
I'm just telling you what I would do now.
The way the Padres looked early in the year, I'm like, maybe
Tatis could be an option here because they looked awful.
They're as hot as anybody. They're on.
A Eater. Oh, man.
They're playing really, really crisp.
Good, fun, exciting. And they've got a lot of good
players, so it's not a surprise. Younger electric players.
But like, you know, if like if they were languishing, I'd be
like, OK, that that's definitely a target.
But they're playing well and they're going to be a playoff
team, you know, so they might win 95 to 100 games.
So it's not going to be Tatis. The Angels aren't going to be as
bad as they've been, I don't think the last couple of years.
And Trout is obviously the hero out there in in Anaheim.
So they're probably reluctant to get rid of them the one year
that they're competitive. But you got to hope that that
turns. And if it doesn't, I don't
really know who that player is. But this team right now, it's
not a World Series team. I mean, it's just not, you know,
that's not. No, it's not it.
It's. Not they've got a lot of.
Flaws and it just stinks. I think their organization
philosophy, you could see it change over the last five years.
You know, they made the move for Soto, but they were kind of
pigeonholed into that move. You know, coming off a year
where they missed the playoffs, they kind of had to make that
move to get their fan base back where they wanted them to fill,
you know, to fill the seats. But I just don't see them making
that, you know, that crazy move that will get fans roaring, you
know, for the World Series again.
But I mean it, you know, they've been really working on the
margins. And that was kind of to my next
point. If you're going to operate on
the margins. And, you know, in the past, they
have put together really good bullpens and they and they find,
you know, something out of nothing.
But they fired a lot of their back end bullpen coaches this
offseason and they brought in a lot of new guys.
So it makes me wonder if they're going to be able to kind of
capture, you know, that lightning from someone who's had
a rough career. So far, they haven't been able
to do it. Jake Burton sent down should be
he, you know, yesterday didn't look good again.
Gary De Los Santos they sent back down to the minors.
He stinks. That that bullpen, you know, has
always been a strong suit for them.
And if it's not a strong suit, then it's going to be a really
long season for this team. It's one of the things Evan and
thanks for the call man. Thank you for the for the call.
Thanks for the support. Appreciate you have a good
weekend. Thank you for making that call.
The one of the it's crazy because bullpens really the most
by far volatile position in all of baseball.
I mean it really is. I'm not saying that there aren't
starting pitchers who get, you know, big contract and they fall
apart or whatever. But year to year, like, you
know, one guy's like look at Luke Weaver.
I don't I don't count Devin Williams.
It's too early and he he was too great for too long.
So I got to see more evidence that, you know, he's he should
be fine for the Mets this year. We've run know about Weaver, but
think about Luke Weaver. He went from he became the
closer when Holmes lost the job and pitched in the World Series
and had a great year, Not a great World Series, but had a
great year. And now, you know, I mean, if
this keeps up, he's going to be an afterthought.
And I mean, if he keep this keeps up, he's going to be DF 8,
you know, at some point. So you did just a lot of
volatility in the relief market. And it's crazy because as much
as we complain about the Yankees, whether it's developing
position players or not, going the extra mile and getting Judge
a couple of real, real true sticks and stars to give him a
real chance, like Reggie had with Thurman and that cast of
characters and Derek and Bernie and those guys had together with
that cast of characters and obviously 09 with Jeets and a
rod and Swish and those bats and Toshira in his prime switch
hitting first baseman goal Glover.
Like, you know, it's just not the same barometer for Aaron
Judge. Aaron Judge is better than all
those players I just mentioned every one of them.
He's better than every one of them.
And he's had the worst circumstances.
So it's unfair, but it is what it is.
And until it changes, it's not going to change.
You know, J Rod, I got to tell you, my friend, I woke up and
I'm like, let let let's see how this is going to go.
Let's roll this out, you know, and Yeah, well, I yeah, I I get
it. Because you have a lot more
responsibility than me in terms of getting all this stuff
functioning. First of all, awesome job, dude.
Way to nail it. Thank you.
Yeah. No, Yeah, dude, I feel like,
well, First off, I felt like I was like an octopus right there.
I was like just doing everything.
But dude, that went so much better.
Like I thought we were about to get, Oh my God, I thought we
were about to get someone coming on saying something wild.
I like. Oh, no, that's going to happen
at some point. Here's what's.
Yeah, no, it worked for today. There's some, there's of course
somebody's going to try to troll or a clown.
And that's where we just clip them and we just keep moving
like whatever, you know. Yeah, you, you seem like you've
got the amount of stress. Since it is a Friday, maybe you
start early, go out, take a little vape, do a little walk
and get the mind nice and clear right there, right, Right.
All. Right, see, it's funny that you
said that because I was literally all I could think to
myself was Oh my God. It was like yo, this episode
makes a dude need to crack a beer.
Something adjacent. There we go, there we go.
Well, I thought it was a resounding success.
It's something I've had my eye and our eye on for a while.
I thought that we would maybe get it implemented a little bit
earlier, but didn't want to rush it, wanted to do it the right
way. And here we are, the first show
where we took calls and we probably took about 10 or 12 of
them. And the calls were thoughtful.
I can give you a little more time to talk.
Obviously, you know, less, no restraints really, but certainly
a little different from terrestrial radio.
So I think this will be great for the channel.
I'm I'm so pumped up, proud of you, you know, juggling all that
stuff. No, nobody could see what you
were doing, but I know that it was a lot.
So let me know real quick. So we got to be you and I have
to record something after you, as you know, for next week.
We got to do some more work here.
What do you got cooking on the weekend?
Any dates, any music? What do we?
What do we got, Jay? Honestly, it's an open book, The
red, you know, as Natasha Benningfield said, Listen, the
rest is unwritten, but I vow to make it a good weekend.
That's it. Like after this, I got to get
lit tonight. We got to have a good weekend.
We got to have. Some fun.
That's it. That's my vow.
Literally is just have a good weekend.
I love it. That's a good mantra.
I might have to do the same thing now tonight.
I mean, jeez, last week at this time, I thought I was going out
to Melville and you know, it was 2 1/2 hours away.
And then, you know, played a game at 2:00 and then they
didn't play again till 6:00 and then we got home at midnight
basically. Then he had to play 10:00 the
next morning and they won that. Then they had to, then they had
to wait for another game to finish, then another game, then
they played again. Then they won.
Then they played the championship, which they lost,
which was a great baseball weekend.
Little different for me. All right, so this weekend,
tonight, he's got a game for travel, and I don't coach this
team, so I never drink at these games.
I might pour a little Yeti, you know, a little soda, maybe a
little splash or something. Nothing crazy.
Just sit out there, spit some seeds.
Beautiful night, right field. Got my nice chair.
One of those really, you know, you, if you watch games, you
know, the kind of chair like it's, it's awesome, right?
That kind of chair. And then tomorrow his game's
not. My daughter played last night.
She doesn't have any games. She pitched.
She actually pitched. And she'd been begging me to get
out there and pitch and pitch and, you know, pitching
underhand, you know, I mean, learning how to pitch is, is
hard for anybody. Boy, girl, baseball, softball,
you know, she's 9 and she's been showing this, this real desire
to pitch. And she got out there last
night, walked a couple girls cuz struck a couple girls out.
They won. She didn't start because we have
a stud who's a year older, but she got out on the mound.
I was so proud of her because that is like, you know, when you
when you and she was begging to do it, like when you volunteer
that I want to pitch, I want to pitch, I want to pitch.
All right, now we're going to feed that now we're going to
work a little bit more. You can pitch to daddy.
We'll get you a pitching coach, get some lessons.
Let's go. She got that little perfect wind
up that she sees the older girls do it does she doesn't throw it
like they do yet at all. But so she played last night and
then tomorrow his first game is at 2:00 and it's basically it's
in Newark. It's at a beautiful turf
facility. So yeah, I think tonight, I
think tonight might be a little a little celebratory mode.
Chill out a little bit myself as well.
Next week. We got the draft.
Can't wait six days for that. Hey, listen, ma'am, you guys
know I appreciate you. This was something that I
couldn't wait to do because it was the thing that I felt that
was missing, you know, and there listen, there's going to be days
where you call up and we're getting after each other like
today was cordial and today with exchanging thoughts and ideas.
And I'm not going to berate you. I'm not going to be, you know,
rude to you unnecessarily, but there's going to be days where
you call, they try to get on my ass and and I bite back and
that's that's content. That's sports debate, and I
can't wait for that. So that's coming.
But today, in terms of day one as a success, J Rod absolutely
crushed it. Salute to him.
Salute to you guys. I want to wish everybody a happy
weekend. Have a great happy weekend.
A great weekend. Yeah.
Happy holidays, Happy weekend. It's probably some holiday this
weekend that I don't know about and if there is, enjoy it.
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So we have a lot of great things coming as we add the sponsors,
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myself and Rick Simini and Jake Asmin as the draft descends upon
Pittsburgh, we will do episode #5 of The Jets Collective.
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Like it, sub it, hook it up and hey, get this out there.
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guys for that. It was a great experience,
really. It was awesome, man.
Have an awesome weekend, Jay. I will talk to you in a little
bit. Everybody else out there, be
safe and we'll catch you Monday. Yanks, Mets, let's get our act
together here. Let's get going.
All right, have a good weekend, guys.
I'll see you.