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What's going on, everybody? 
BT Unleashed in the house got a 

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good show for you today. 
A lot of baseball, Brian Cashman

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get little Brian Cashman get a 
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little something on Eli as well.
I thought Mikhail Bridges said 

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some incredibly interesting 
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lot today. 
Hope everybody's doing well. 

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All right, so Brian Cashman, 
we're going to start with this 

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year. 
Brian Cashman has not earned the

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right to rebuild the Yankees. 
The way Brian, push back, for 

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sure, push back in the big way. 
And Brian's got a big issue with

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the way many people are 
perceiving his team now. 

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Here's what I find very 
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All right, First of all, I think
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bit. 
I think he's fixating on the 

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wrong thing. 
So I obviously can't speak for 

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all Yankee fans, but I think 
I've got a pretty good pulse on 

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what most Yankee fans were 
thinking, including this one. 

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And it's never been that. 
I don't think the Yankees will 

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be good this year or have a 
chance to mess around then, you 

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know, a little luck and some 
clutch whatever, maybe mess 

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around to get back to you and 
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Nobody's ever really said that. 
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Bellinger back, that's where I 
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That was the line of demarcation
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If Bellinger went, say, to 
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thought the Yankees had a chance
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race, but he's back and they're 
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But you, you, you got to take 
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basically looks us in the face 
and says, you know, we're not 

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running it back. 
You are running it back, right? 

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And by the way, you're not 
running back A-75 win team. 

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So nobody is crushing you. 
But again, you're missing the 

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mark. 
And I'm going to tell you why in

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a minute. 
But think about this. 

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So he said that the Yankees are 
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Well, go to October 8th. 
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played, Toronto playoffs. 
Oh my God, everybody's sick in 

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my house. 5 to 2 Yankee loss, 
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Think about the lineup that. 
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pinch hitting, whatever. 
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in a playoff game was Trent 
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center, Aaron Judge batting 
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batting 3rd and left. 
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Jazz in the five hole at 2nd. 
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batting 6. 
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shortstop, third base. 
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Grisham's not going to be the 
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massive trade like Nico Horn or 
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love. 
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the opening day center fielder 
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off man. 
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Bellinger's going to protect 
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Stanton's going to be the righty
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Jazz is going to be at 2nd now 
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Wells will be behind the play, 
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gets back, Caballero to start, 
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they're not running back, they 
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exactly the way it was a year 
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Now, I think that, again, to be 
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little distorted and some of 
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you which has been built on 
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the same way over and over and 
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And we're kind of fed up with 
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You know, we push back, but 
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notion that the Yankees are 
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year. 
Yankees have the shortest Second

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World Series odds and the 
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projected win total in Major 
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But it it's it really it, it 
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Then Brian Casper went on to 
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to the challenge respectfully, 
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So Brian said yesterday, I 
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know, present to me or how I 
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that we're running it back. 
Well, here's an open invitation.

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Mr. Cashman, I've interview, 
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All right. 
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on 1050, couple of times on 
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chatted been a while, but we've,
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we've done the dance. 
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extend that challenge to you or 
that invitation. 

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I don't want to make it too 
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So you're going to come on BT 
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You could be the first guest. 
You know, we are equipped to do 

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studio redesign and they're 
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See they're outside in the 
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I can't go get them. 
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of the BT and I got them last 
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I got I got back from the St. 
John's game to the garden. 

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St. 
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I'll give you a minute or so on 
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bounce. 
But I come home and the 2 Prince

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arrived, the two different 
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Now it's going to happen 
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My guys going to come at 12:30. 
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yesterday on the show, the 
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we've just got it now 
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He's got to measure where we're 
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And then they're going to take 
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the two of them. 
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thing for the whole back wall, 
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up to the top of the wall. 
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It's up there on my dining room 
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awesome. 
I'm so pumped up about that, 

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right? 
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for that. 
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the invite? 
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challenge? 
I challenge JJ Rod, do me a 

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favor, bud, as you're doing 
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Good morning to you, by the way.
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OK. 
Doing great. 

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Doing great. 
Good morning, everyone. 

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There you go. 
BT Unleashed fam. 

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Whoa, there he is, BT Unleashed,
fam. 

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Look, I'm getting more and more 
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He's talk, he's playing to the 
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I love it. 
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bit under the weather like many 
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starting to you are a little 
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So I appreciate you plowing 
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Do me a favor, before we get 
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And the word challenge is in 
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I challenge anybody who thinks 
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it is. 
And then when you find it, just 

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pop back in and I want you to 
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OK. 
Thanks, man. 

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Thank you. 
So he's going to get that in a 

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Yeah, I mean it. 

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It really is the same exact 
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for the entire season. 
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thought process here, which by 
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incredibly off base or wild. 
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sensible. 
I think it's rooted in pretty 

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good baseball logic. 
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No matter what you think or you 
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Yankee fan base all these years 
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going to be a playoff team. 
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Instead, the Mets swoop in and 
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was going to the Mets, but we, 
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But we talked about this and for
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the Mets were neck and neck. 
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lot of great prospects. 
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Yankees only have two in the top
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Spencer Jones is no longer a top
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Will Bitmiss or Dick Smith? 
Something something something 

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A shortstop that they drafted a 

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They don't know if he's going to
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go or Ben Rice or both of those 
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We know that. 
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the quote? 
Buddy, there we go. 

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I believe this is the quote you 
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I've been openly willing to 
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Here we go that says we don't 
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roster and here. 
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This will be clipped and you 

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hopefully this will get in the 

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I don't think he's great at his 
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I like him. 
I think he's good at his job. 

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I think he used to be great. 
I think he's in some of his 

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And I would like to extend a 
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Yankees general manager Brian 
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follow up on that statement that
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entire free world to see. 
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the challenge and debate about 
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viability of the Yankees, 
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hey, come on in. 
Again, we've done the dance 

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before. 
I've interviewed you a couple of

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We've had fun. 

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I like Brian Cashman, he's 
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He is a he. 
He fights back man. 

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Sometimes He also just goes on 
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And it's hard to ask a couple of
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But then again, as somebody who 
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can relate to that a little bit.
You just got to know when to 

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jump in and cut him off there. 
I like Brian Cashman, it's never

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been personal. 
I think Brian Cashman is a Hall 

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of Famer. 
But Brian, don't lie to us. 

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Like don't tell us one thing 
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abundantly clear that it's 
something else. 

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I mean, think about the words. 
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like, those words are really 
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And listen, do I think Brian 
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show? 
I don't know. 

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I mean, if you told me a year 
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years ago that that Aaron Boone 
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Connecticut for a BT and Sal 
live show and not ask for a 

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penny to do it, I would have 
been like, now that seems a 

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little bit unlikely, fairly 
implausible. 

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And there was booty, you know, 
doing a celebratory shot and 

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having a little red vino before 
the show, hanging out with a 

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couple of knuckleheads on stage 
talking about the Yankees, why 

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they're not doing anything 
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So you never know. 
You never know. 

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Brian Cashman does that, that 
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But again, I want to extend 
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conversate that, you know, we'll
have a respectful conversation. 

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Extend the very respectful, 
sincere invitation. 

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I invite Brian Cashman to come 
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he said yesterday and we can go 
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you know, the details will sort 
through. 

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We'll probably get a little 
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We'll probably do a little yell.
It'll probably do a little 

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laughing and at the end of the 
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great conversation and we'll get
to the crux of the matter, which

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I fundamentally disagree with in
terms of what he said yesterday.

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You know, we're not running it 
back. 

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You're running it back. 
It's the same team, bro. 

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You know? 
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because I am always about being 
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What is different about the 
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under the assumption that 
there's no other move that's 

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going to be made? 
And by the way, they better make

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moves to the bullpen, but just 
for the sake of moving with the 

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conversation. 
Again, Caballero is going to be 

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here for the entire season. 
He's a great super sub, great on

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the bases, you know, good gritty
clubhouse guy. 

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I know Boone loves him, right. 
So Caballero is going to be the 

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starting shortstop. 
Bolpe comes back and even the 

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medicals on Volpe. 
I was texting with his dad the 

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other day. 
But then who's a really good 

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guy? 
Mr. Volpe actually came up to me

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and Sal at the I, I, I spoke 
longer with him. 

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You know, I spend more time with
him. 

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I don't even, I, I know Sal said
hi to him. 

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I spent a good 20 minutes with 
Mike. 

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His name is Michael. 
And he came to the Fanatics Fan 

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Fest over at the Javits Center 
this past summer. 

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And we were shooting the breeze 
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his son's a jersey, obviously a 
Jersey kid played at Dale 

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Barton. 
My son, at that point, I was 

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less, she was 10 Jersey kid, 
shortstop, you know, plays 

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fairly competitive ball. 
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really good dad to dad 
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his son, but but then as I got 
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would, as a matter of fact, I 
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how Anthony's doing and just to 
say hi because I hadn't checked 

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in for the new year. 
Great guy. 

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And he even said that, you know,
he's coming along well, which is

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great when dad says it, but then
the Yankees said it and it looks

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like Volpe might be a little bit
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of schedule. 
But either way, Caballero's the 

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opening day shortstop. 
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healthy, will come in, take the 
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will keep the job. 
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situation. 
But Caballero is here for the 

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whole year. 
So in in regard to that, that's 

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a little bit of a different 
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know, different angles that 
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You got Rosario for the full 
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You pick them up at the 
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He's a right stick. 
He crushes left knees, viable 

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righty bat. 
I like him for the role. 

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That's fine. 
Then you got Cam Schlittler here

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from opening day. 
He was going to pitch the first 

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series of the year in San 
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He's not going to pitch opening 
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That's going to be Max Freed, 
although sometimes it doesn't 

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always line up that way. 
Remember, Cortez pitched opening

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Day a few years ago in Houston 
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with the Yankees. 
So it's no longer all this guy's

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pitching opening day. 
These guys are such creatures of

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habit. 
Like Real Don didn't want to 

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deviate from it. 
Like, you know, so I I don't 

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know for sure that Freed's 
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merit. 
He should. 

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And then based on merit, Cam 
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Either way, you're going to have
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25, hopefully 3032 starts. 
And that is a massive difference

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from last year's team. 
And then eventually going to get

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Garrett Cole back. 
And while it's probably going to

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be, you know, a little bit of a 
rough transition back to him 

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trusting his stuff and 
understanding his body and 

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getting the field back for all 
the different pitches and, you 

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know, being there full bore 
Vilo. 

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And then that'll be the first 
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the secondary, the field stuff, 
right? 

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So maybe you give Garrett Cole 
7-8 starts to figure it out. 

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And at that point, as I've said 
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is going to be 85 to 90% of the 
Cy Young version that we've come

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to love and watch with the 
Yankees. 

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So those things, you know, a 
speed throw off the bench, a 

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righty hitter who can really 
help against lefties, bad 

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fielder, Rosario, certainly it's
short, but a good stick, 

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Schlittler and Cole. 
So there are variables here that

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are going to be very different, 
but so there's two angles here. 

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Number one of the Yankees going 
to be good enough to win the 

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World Series. 
I still don't think that they 

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are. 
I think they're a playoff team, 

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but I think they're two lefty 
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They don't have a lead off man 
and their bullpen needs work. 

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So I can push back on the both 
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Cashman, which I will do 
respectfully, of course, if and 

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when Brian Cashman accepts the 
BT Unleashed invitation and 

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comes on the show and chops it 
up, it will sort through it. 

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I mean, if you're going to issue
a challenge and then somebody 

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calls you on the challenge, 
don't you kind of have to 

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respond to the challenge? 
Otherwise it's a fairly baseless

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challenge. 
Like you have to. 

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So again, I like cash. 
I've been a Brian Cashman fan, 

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but I've also in terms of a 
person, but I've also been a 

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Brian Cashman detractor these 
last, you know, 678 years. 

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And I'm not going to re litigate
everything. 

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But you know, again, you know, a
lot of not enough lefties and 

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then too many lefties and too 
slow, which they did address a 

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year ago, not not good enough 
defensively, which they also 

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addressed a little bit like 
that's in the crux of my my 

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issues baseball wise with Brian 
as a human. 

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I think Brian Cashman is 
awesome. 

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I really do. 
I think he's a fantastic human 

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being. 
Really class act Pitbull, 

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feisty, just what you want with 
your GM for New York team, 

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especially if the Yankees where 
there's always noise around the 

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Yankees. 
So that's what's going on with 

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Cash. 
I like that he pushed back. 

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I don't agree, you know, and, 
and they are two very different 

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things. 
Are they the same team? 

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He says no. 
I say yes, I just gave you the 

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lineup to prove that. 
So BT1 cash zero. 

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And then are they good enough to
win a World Series team? 

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Now that's more to be a World 
Series team to win one. 

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Now that's more opinion driven. 
So I'm going to be fair and I'm 

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not going to say Brian Cashman's
wrong because it's an opinion. 

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And I can't say that his opinion
is wrong until, you know, if the

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Yankees get bumped, then I don't
want that to happen. 

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I'd rather be proven wrong 
there. 

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But an opinion is just that it's
what he think is going to 

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happen, thinks is going to 
happen unless there's other 

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moves. 
You already know what I think is

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going to happen. 
Playoffs and then short of the 

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World Series and not winning it,
and then we'll get the answer. 

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But right now, late January, 
it's an opinion. 

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However, having said that, my 
opinion to me is more accurate 

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than is, at least right now. 
Oh my God, I'll tell you. 

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You know that really. 
I see all the comments coming in

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Yankee fans, isn't it awesome 
talking baseball? 

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I love talking baseball. 
We'll get to Eli in a little 

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bit. 
I, I think I'm going to make 

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some enemies today with the Eli 
stuff. 

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Yesterday was the Belichick Hall
of Fame stuff. 

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Eli, we got the official word. 
He got snubbed yesterday. 

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We'll get to that coming up. 
The Bridges stuff as well. 

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Very, very introspective of of 
an athlete. 

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You don't really hear that too 
often, not to that degree. 

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And I want to tell you what what
I think that means moving 

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forward for Bridges and the 
Knicks and then a little 

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Johnny's. 
But you know, here we are and 

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it's it's almost February and 
all the players that we wanted 

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are no longer available. 
Like, you can't get them, you 

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know, and I didn't really, if 
you like to be consistent here, 

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I was never all in on Tucker. 
Now, last year when it was Louis

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heel for Tucker, when that was 
on the table, that's a trade 

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that the Yankees lament did not 
making that really so. 

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But the more you watch Tucker, 
you know, the more he misses 

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those 15/20/20, 5:00-ish games. 
And, you know, there's some 

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rumblings as he really love 
baseball, as he really built for

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the big city. 
I don't know. 

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But I'm not really willing to 
take that chance on a massive 

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contract, you know, So I was 
never really all in on Tucker 

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this version, Tucker 2 point O 
going around. 

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But I wanted Bichette. 
And see, Bichette was the move. 

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Bichette was the move that would
have satisfied so much. 

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Number one, it would it would 
have made Toronto weaker. 

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Now Toronto's weaker because 
he's gone and he's with the 

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Mets. 
But Toronto would have been 

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weakened while simultaneously 
the Yankees would have been 

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strengthened. 
And Oh yeah, by the way, Beau 

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Bouchette would have brought 
exactly what the Yankees need. 

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And that is a righty stick with 
clutch presents and plate 

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discipline of 300 average left 
field, left center, center, 

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right, center, right field, you 
know, propensity to hit 

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everywhere all over the yard. 
Like that guy was built to be a 

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Yankee for a good, but just 
grimy. 

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Just the kind of guy that you 
know is going to strap it on and

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not be, you know, not flinch as 
the stage gets like you're 

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playing the Dodgers in the World
Series. 

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You want Beau Bouchet up there 
with two on A2 out there to run.

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That's the guy you want. 
You want Jazz up there? 

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Think about this, right? 
See, this to me is why the 

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Yankees are not a World Series 
team. 

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And again, understand, I think 
they're a playoff team and I 

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think they're good, very good, 
better than most here. 

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But that line of demarcation 
that that's a big one there to 

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go from really good to a World 
Series team. 

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I don't see that. 
Do you want, I'm going to go 

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through this very fast? 
Do you want Trent Gresham up 

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there? 
Let's say the Yankees are down 

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to run and it's 1st and 2nd and 
it's 2 out, 8th inning, 9th 

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inning. 
We'll go 9th inning, right? 

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Just to really make the suspense
and really make it as high a 

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leverage. 
Situations you can humanly have 

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here, right? 
Do you want Trent Grisham up 

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there against an elite pitcher? 
Do you really want? 

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I don't. 
OK, so, oh, for one, do you want

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Aaron Judge up there? 
Of course you know Aaron Judge 

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crack through ledge. 
Even if he didn't crack through,

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and even if he hit 170 in the 
playoffs and he hit the exact 

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what he hit 460, whatever it 
was, I'd still say yes because I

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am a believer that eventually 
greatness, if you put the work 

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in and you are inherently 
talented. 

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When work meets talent, 
eventually you will pop through,

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You will succeed. 
And the bigger the sample size 

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gets, the the greater the 
percentage of you eventually 

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cracking through goes. 
So Grisham. 

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No, Judge, Of course. 
Bellinger. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I want him up there. 
You know, I know he's going to 

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make contact. 
Have a good at bat. 

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Yes. 
Stanton. 

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No, I don't. 
For every big home run that 

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Stanton hits, and he's hit a 
couple of monster ones as a 

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Yankee. 
No. 

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Down. 
We appreciate it. 

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But he could easily just, you 
know, slider flail, slider, 

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flail, fastball upstairs, punch 
out. 

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Goodnight. 
So you're not getting the 

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quality of bat. 
So All for one, one for two with

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00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,360
Judge, 2 for three with Belly, 2
for four with Stanton, who's who

448
00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,320
I don't want. 
You want Jazz Chisholm up there 

449
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,880
with in a spot like that against
a smart pitcher with elite 

450
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,600
stuff, Yanks down a run quality 
at bat, not swinging for the 

451
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,480
moon. 
See. 

452
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,440
And that's the difference when a
lot of you asked me and a lot of

453
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,320
you do ask me this, right? 
Like why you why do you always 

454
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,480
bang on on Jazz Chisholm? 
Guy went 3030. 

455
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,840
You know, he's he could have 
gone maybe 4040 or at least 3535

456
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,880
if he was healthy. 
I understand that. 

457
00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,760
But this is the crux of the 
matter. 

458
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,160
Like think about the question on
my I'm asking right now. 

459
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,480
Do you want Jazz Chisholm up 
there two on down a run late 

460
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,600
against the stud closer against 
a good manager who's not going 

461
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,880
to mismanage the bullpen or 
defense? 

462
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,080
It's not going to catch the 
ball. 

463
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,000
The answer is no, because he's 
swinging from his shoes and it's

464
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,400
the same aim at bat against the 
Royals in May that it would be 

465
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,240
in that spot that I just created
there. 

466
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,960
There's no adjustments. 
All right, So no, no thank you, 

467
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,320
Goldschmid. 
Now Goldschmid. 

468
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,480
I'm I'm looking at last year's 
lineup and I actually, I think 

469
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,200
the Yankees will get him back. 
And I know it's like the Yankees

470
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520
are going to take a lot of heat.
Oh, my God, you're going to run 

471
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,880
it back with Goldschmid. 
I got no problem running back 

472
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000
with Goldschmid. 
The guy made $12 million last 

473
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,480
year. 
He's going to play twice a week,

474
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,040
you know. 
And then the other thing that it

475
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:08,320
does is it if like Austin Wells 
is in a rough spot, not that I 

476
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,160
think Ben Rice is Johnny Bench, 
but you could put Goldschmidt at

477
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,080
first base. 
And if Ben Rice is hitting the 

478
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000
way I know he's going to hit, 
you can then justify sitting 

479
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,800
Austin Wells and putting Ben 
Rice behind the dish. 

480
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,000
So I I would want Goldschmidt up
in that spot because I know I'm 

481
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040
getting a quality at bat. 
You want Austin Wells up in that

482
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,760
spot? 
No. 

483
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,720
You want Volpe up in that spot? 
No. 

484
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,480
You want Ryan McMahon up in that
spot? 

485
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,720
No. 
So when all those no's add up to

486
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,800
a lineup that I don't trust, So 
how when the general manager 

487
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,440
says this is a World Series 
team, nobody could tell me 

488
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,640
otherwise. 
I just did. 

489
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,840
I just did. 
Now that's my opinion. 

490
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,840
But also, if you look at the 
averages and the optics of the 

491
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,320
at bats of all the players I 
just mentioned, the high K rate,

492
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,280
the low walk rate, you know, 
it's also some substantiated by 

493
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,400
numbers. 
It's not just me like imagining.

494
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,600
So Oh well, if this happens, how
do I think this guy would do? 

495
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,760
It's rooted in evidence, guys, 
not just making this up. 

496
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,560
And and I don't know that 
there's a an intelligent Yankee 

497
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,320
fan that could really disagree 
with anything that I just said 

498
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,720
there. 
Now, to be fair to the 

499
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,720
conversation, the only one who 
might, and by the way, I would 

500
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,640
want Ben Rice up there in that 
spot. 

501
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,720
To be fair, the only one that I 
think maybe you guys can push 

502
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360
back on and I know some of you 
will cause some of you love him 

503
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,880
would be Stanton. 
You know, because Stanton has 

504
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,920
gone deep, had some big at bats,
big moments, clutch spot. 

505
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,440
So there is evidence there too, 
but there's also evidence to the

506
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,400
contrary. 
I just think again, think about 

507
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,120
the situation, couple of guys on
down a run, he might hit a one 

508
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,160
hop rocket or he like as as he 
hits the hell, I mean hits the 

509
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,760
balls hardest anybody in the 
history of the game in terms of 

510
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,640
eggs of Vilo. 
But if it's on the ground, 

511
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,920
excuse me, if it's on the 
ground, it's a double play. 

512
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200
So we can't run if it's not 
lifted in the air, you know, 

513
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,360
really what are you doing here? 
And then if he gets on base, you

514
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,040
got to burn somebody because you
can't run. 

515
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,080
So and at that stage of the 
game, and I'm talking 8th or 9th

516
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,600
inning as I just made-up this 
fictitious situation. 

517
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000
But those situations or what 
determines whether or not you 

518
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,720
win, it's pretty, it's a pretty 
sure bet that Boone has already 

519
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,240
used a Caballero or a 
Goldschmidt as a defensive 

520
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,200
replacement or, you know, 
Rosario coming off the bench to 

521
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200
face a righty. 
So at that point, face a lefty. 

522
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,320
So at that point, you know, if 
Stanton's on base, who's going 

523
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,160
to pinch run? 
There's only so many guys on the

524
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,720
active roster. 
So I just fundamentally disagree

525
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,360
with pretty much everything that
Brian Cashman said yesterday. 

526
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,120
But then again, that's nothing 
new. 

527
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,120
That is nothing new. 
I have disagreed with a lot of 

528
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,280
the stuff that he said. 
And you know, until they win the

529
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,320
championship and like, I'm not 
trying to flex or and get any 

530
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,440
clout here, but until like, it's
the onus is now on him to prove 

531
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,840
me wrong and prove us wrong 
because everything that I've 

532
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,360
said is kind of happened and it 
hasn't been the most favorable 

533
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,280
result. 
So, you know, it's getting 

534
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480
flimsy what he can lean on. 
How about let's get some of 

535
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480
these texts in there. 
Hussy and wad 6631. 

536
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Austin Wells is the backup 
catcher to Ben Rice is way 

537
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,520
better than him starting every 
day. 

538
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,720
Ben Rice is going to be awesome.
Yeah, Ben Rice, if you ask me 

539
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,560
right now, like numbers just 
loose parameters for Ben Rice. 

540
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,200
I would if he's healthy, I would
say I'd probably say 25 home 

541
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:26,760
runs. 
I'd say about a 275 to 282 

542
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,680
average. 
I'd say about a 3435% on base 

543
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,920
percentage. 
And I'd say probably in the 

544
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,280
neighborhood OPS, which is what 
really matters to me. 

545
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,400
You know, I love the OPS. 
I'd say eight, 15830. 

546
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,240
Like he's that kind of hitter. 
The problem is I, you know, 

547
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,240
wells is, is a better framer is 
a bit receives the ball better. 

548
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,560
You know, Rice is a little, you 
know, I was like the tin man in 

549
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,200
the Wizard of Oz. 
You got to get him like Eminem 

550
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,640
says, get some oil in the 
joints. 

551
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,560
Like I watch, I watch Rice catch
and I'm like, I know he's not 

552
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,200
terrible. 
And and the numbers back that 

553
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,160
up, but the numbers also back up
the fact that that Austin Wells 

554
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,000
is a superior defensive catcher.
Now all Austin and maybe this is

555
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920
the year and maybe this is what 
Cashman's banking on. 

556
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,320
But if that's the case, then 
this is what Brian Cashman needs

557
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,480
to say. 
He needs to and I think he 

558
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760
referenced it to a bit, but it 
it didn't, it wasn't the main 

559
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,360
emphasis, which is why I think 
his main point I'm not feeling. 

560
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,120
So if you want to tell me that, 
you know, you expect an 8 to 12%

561
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,360
statistical growth, I'm just 
throwing out again broad 

562
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:34,920
parameters here in Austin Wells.
Meaning maybe he'll strike out 

563
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,600
eight to 10% less. 
That's actually a little bit 

564
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,400
high, 6 to 8% less and get on 
base a little bit more. 

565
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,840
And you know, instead of hitting
212, whatever he hits, hit two, 

566
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,840
38245, something like that, you 
know, 2025 home run. 

567
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,760
I mean, that's possible. 
I'm not saying it's not 

568
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,200
possible. 
I mean, you know, booty and 

569
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,040
booty is my guy. 
But Booty, he was telling us the

570
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480
other night again, I asked him 
like I asked him on stage and 

571
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,440
I'm not respectfully, I'm I'm 
not, I don't agree with it. 

572
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,640
But he's the manager. 
You know, he is telling us that 

573
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,200
the Yankees truly believe that 
Ryan McMahon, that there's more 

574
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,840
in the tank that he's going to 
strike out less and he's going 

575
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,440
to hit for a higher average. 
I don't see it because when you 

576
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,720
are a below average, which he 
has been for a decade, not three

577
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,360
years, like how you going to get
better in your 11th year, 10th 

578
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:21,280
year, whatever it is. 
And you know, McMahon, you know,

579
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840
it's not like he played in the 
Oakland Coliseum with this 

580
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,600
cavernous foul territory. 
And they were, you know, and you

581
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,040
could document this. 
There were 18 bulls that would 

582
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,600
have been in the seats at Yankee
Stadium that were caught for 

583
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000
outs or, and the the marine 
layer and the heavy wind or 

584
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,800
whatever. 
It's cold out there. 

585
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,400
It's dank. 
It's hard to really hit home 

586
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,640
runs in in the Coliseum, which 
is why I say that, you know, all

587
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,440
right, you get him out of that 
ballpark and put him in the 

588
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,440
Bronx. 
Well, yeah, I could see a real 

589
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,840
uptick there. 
But if you are a strikeout 

590
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,640
machine, as Ryan McMahon has 
always proven to be, man, I know

591
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960
I don't manage the Yankees, but,
you know, I I, I think I know my

592
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,800
baseball. 
I I don't know how you change 

593
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,000
being that profile of a hitter 
at this stage of your career. 

594
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,120
I don't know how you do it. 
I really don't. 

595
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,760
I'm not saying you can't run 
into a few more home runs and 

596
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,320
yeah, but the strikeouts are 
like you strike out when you 

597
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,520
strike out at that rate. 
And I'm talking not just Ryan, 

598
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,200
but you know, when you're in 
that for him, jeez, he's like 

599
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,440
35%, whatever his rate is. 
But same with Spencer Jones, 

600
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,320
which is why I'm down on him. 
When you are like 283032 N of 

601
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,480
that, you're a disaster. 
And there's a lot of it bats to 

602
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,360
prove that that's who you are. 
You're the reason you are that 

603
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,840
way is you either can't handle 
really good secondary stuff, 

604
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,360
which is all they throw you. 
So you're cooked because the 

605
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,320
book is out immediately, or do 
you have some issues with elite 

606
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,520
Velo? 
So let's go 97 and above at this

607
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440
point in 2026. 
Isn't that crazy? 

608
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
You know, 97, it's like a 
cookie, you know, But really, 

609
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,720
97's a, a, a good number to work
with. 

610
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,480
Anything below that you can 
square up. 

611
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,600
But 9798, you're just a little 
late. 

612
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,640
You foul it off like, well, 
what's going to change? 

613
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,840
Generally it's either a 
recognition thing, not seeing 

614
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,320
the seams, not reading the spin,
an aptitude thing, an IQ thing, 

615
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,920
which I don't think it is with 
Ryan, or just some sort of flaw 

616
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,320
which I am admittedly not 
qualified to identify because 

617
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040
I'm not a hitting coach, you 
know. 

618
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,960
But when you, when you're that 
guy for a decade, I, I just, I 

619
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,960
don't believe it. 
I, I need to see it. 

620
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,640
There's no way I'm going to sit 
here and say, yeah, that sounds 

621
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,920
good. 
I mean, Booty's telling me he's 

622
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,280
going to go from 212 strike. 
He didn't say an exact number to

623
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,600
143. 
Sounds good to me. 

624
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,240
I'll buy it. 
But I got to see it. 

625
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,880
I got to see April and May and 
I've got to see the strikeout 

626
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,160
rate at 21% or 22% and trickling
downward. 

627
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,920
You saw that that's I'm an 
evidence person. 

628
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,480
I need some evidence. 
Not that I'll never take a leap 

629
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,080
of faith. 
Like I'll give you an example. 

630
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,120
Somebody like Jason Dominguez to
me where there's a much smaller 

631
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960
sample. 
He's already proven that he's 

632
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,080
got certain things that I look 
for where you know, with 

633
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,240
maturity, which with being 
comfortable with more frequent 

634
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,400
playing time, with all those 
things young players need like 

635
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
just the runway to get off and 
and be what you're ultimately 

636
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,520
going to be like the guys on 
base 3435% of the time. 

637
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,400
He's not 280, you know, like 
like Volpe, He's already, he's 

638
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,520
already got a good eye. 
His K rate is fairly low. 

639
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,880
He runs like the wind. 
He's got a good arm. 

640
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,400
And I think the power is going 
to blossom, not to the Mickey 

641
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,840
Mantle power that everybody 
thought was coming with the 

642
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,600
nickname The Martian, but I 
really think that Jason 

643
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,720
Dominguez could be really good. 
I really, really there's 

644
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,320
evidence there. 
I think he's going to get 

645
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680
incrementally better. 
And think about this guy's, he's

646
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,000
22, unlike Ryan McMahon or you 
know, Rosario is who he is at 

647
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,240
this point. 
Same with Goldschmidt, the 

648
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,400
splits lefty versus righties. 
Like a guy like Jason Dominguez 

649
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920
at age 22. 
Let's just I'm going to be 

650
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,320
conservative here. 
Let's give him, let's give him a

651
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,640
3% growth rate, right over the 
next three years. 

652
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,680
So this year across the board 
uptake, 2 and a half, 3% on base

653
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,240
strikeout rate, walk rate, home 
runs, all those things, right. 

654
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,200
And then if there is baseball in
2027, another two and a half 3%.

655
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,520
And then the next year when he's
25, another two and a half 3%. 

656
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,640
So you told about a roughly a 
10% gain as he's figuring out 

657
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,440
the league before he's even 
entered his prime. 

658
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,840
Now just tack 10. 
I don't have number one. 

659
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,680
I don't have the bandwidth 
mathematically to do it because 

660
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,240
I stink in math. 
But just imagine Jason Dominguez

661
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,960
now with the numbers that he put
up last year with a 10% uptick 

662
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,720
across the board. 
Pretty good. 

663
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,600
Because I thought he was pretty 
good last year. 

664
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,720
I thought he should have played 
more. 

665
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,000
So that's where I'm at with the 
Yankees. 

666
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,000
Nothing's really changed except 
me reacting to what Brian 

667
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,400
Cashman said yesterday. 
You know, hey, I challenge 

668
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:04,360
anybody, challenges out there. 
B, Let's go and I promise, and I

669
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,240
don't need to say this because I
think people who have followed 

670
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,720
my career, you know, no matter 
how muddy I get during a rant, 

671
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,960
like I'm going to be respectful.
Like I'm not going to. 

672
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,400
I'm not one of these guys. 
I respect the game too much. 

673
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,920
I respect the sport. 
I respect people too much to get

674
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080
on the air and railroad. 
Brian Cashman. 

675
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,800
So I promise Brian Cashman if he
comes on the show, Brian Cashman

676
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600
is going to get treated well. 
And then when Brian Cashman says

677
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,720
things that I disagree with, you
bet you're behind. 

678
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,160
I'm going to push back with some
force and we're going to have a 

679
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,560
real baseball conversation and 
we'll go where we go. 

680
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Invitations out there. 
Mr. Cashman, hopefully you will 

681
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,000
be willing to to accept. 
Hey, Jay, Rod, by the way, that 

682
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000
is I, I forgot to tell you that 
is that is also in the job 

683
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,360
description. 
Jay, it is your job to get Brian

684
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Cashman on the show. 
Oh, man. 

685
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,040
All right. 
Well then. 

686
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,840
Guess what? 
I'm just going to go to the 

687
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,880
Bronx today, stand outside 
Yankee Stadium and just get a 

688
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000
sign up. 
Cashman come to unleash Flag 

689
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,080
them down yesterday and listen, 
if they can sell whatever the 

690
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,160
hell they sell on the side of 
the road at the Deegan, you 

691
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,320
know, when you leave in a game, 
you know, water, fruit, I mean, 

692
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,920
yeah, that works. 
They make a few bucks. 

693
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,960
Maybe the sign will work. 
Yeah, we'll try it. 

694
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,840
I had a number for Brian 
Cashman. 

695
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520
I just don't. 
And I texted him. 

696
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
So I was trying to get him back 
on with me and Sal a while ago 

697
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,000
and he didn't respond. 
Now, I don't know if he didn't 

698
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,840
respond because he was, he was 
angered by some of the things 

699
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,000
that we were saying or I was 
saying or whatever. 

700
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,960
But I have never really texted 
with Brian again. 

701
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,320
I've had him on the show a few 
times. 

702
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080
I I, you know, I've texted Jason
Zillow a few times when, when 

703
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,600
he's he's done some good things 
for us. 

704
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Got me and Tiki Carlos Rodon 
when I did the Yankee games when

705
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,280
I was in the Yankee booth, which
by the way, was phenomenal. 

706
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600
I mean, you want to talk about 
doing something that I never 

707
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,120
thought that I was going to have
a chance to do. 

708
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,000
I mean, doing a couple of Yankee
and that was the time of my 

709
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,520
life. 
I had a blast. 

710
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,360
God, I would love to do more of 
that. 

711
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Better start being nice to cash.
So I was texting Jason, you 

712
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,960
know, back and forth over, you 
know, some of the logistics with

713
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,720
that into the stadium, parking, 
whatever. 

714
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520
So I will, I will, I will reach 
out. 

715
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,080
I will text Jason. 
He's busy. 

716
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,880
I don't expect it to necessarily
happen like these things 

717
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,760
generally happen when you have 
your own personal contacts. 

718
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,120
That's why, you know, that's why
Booney comes on. 

719
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360
That's why Booney hooks us up. 
So we'll see. 

720
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
I'm going to really try to get 
to the Cashman stuff. 

721
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,040
Do me a favor. 
I want to get to Eli J Rod as 

722
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,600
some of these some of these 
Yankee to find a couple of good 

723
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,120
ones, get them up on the screen.
I certainly want to respond to 

724
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800
that. 
And and as as Jay is doing that,

725
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,560
I'm going to jump into some Eli 
stuff here. 

726
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:43,600
All right, so as we know, you 
know what, let me start with 

727
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,360
this first at why do you guys 
have such long names at Richie 

728
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,200
Gershuni? 
I believe I said that right 262 

729
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,160
Will the Yankees be a lot better
off with Nico or Brandon 

730
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Donovan? 
Saint Louis is the lead off man.

731
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,560
It seems like this trade 
wouldn't be that difficult. 

732
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,200
I've said this for a while. 
I I really have I and to me it's

733
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Nico or bust. 
I'm not saying I wouldn't take 

734
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,880
Donovan. 
Nico Horner is everything that 

735
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,520
the Yankees need. 
He is grimy, he is gritty, he is

736
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,159
high contact. 
I mean, he's a stud. 

737
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,480
He's in that and he's exactly 
what they're missing. 

738
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,159
Is he going to hit thirty home 
runs like Jazz? 

739
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:23,760
No, But let me ask you this. 
Who would you rather have a ball

740
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,199
hit to? 
You know, again, high leverage 

741
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:30,040
spot Nico with second Jazz at 
second got to turn the double 

742
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,560
play or it's got to be a perfect
relay from the gap on a play to 

743
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,880
play to a play at 3rd Instead 
last year, you know, or a couple

744
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,360
of years ago in the World 
Series, you got you got Jazz. 

745
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,679
You know, looking around those 
runners are are running around 

746
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:42,760
the bases. 
Like, what are we? 

747
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,760
What are we doing here? 
I love Nico and I think it would

748
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,760
change so much like about the 
Yankee lineup. 

749
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,400
I'm not going to do this whole 
thing, but I'll do the first 

750
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,520
5-6. 
Let's just imagine Nico Batten 

751
00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:01,640
first playing second, all right?
Then then you see again, the 

752
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,920
whole there's still a lot of 
lefties there. 

753
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,760
I'm just trying to think about 
this out loud. 

754
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,400
Nico. 
One, I know they're going to 

755
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,480
keep Judge 2. 
I wouldn't, but I mean, Judge is

756
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,360
the man wherever. 
Judge 2, right field, Belly 3 

757
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,440
left field. 
You know, now you're going to 

758
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,040
need a righty, It's probably 
Stanton, you know, then you get 

759
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,440
into the Rices and some other 
players. 

760
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080
But you know, that's why. 
Like if the Yankees would have 

761
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,080
spent money on Bichette and been
creative and had a plan, you 

762
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,720
know, you could have you could 
have signed Bichette, who's not 

763
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,840
going to be in Queens long. 
He's going to opt out and bounce

764
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,320
because he's going to have, I 
think he's going to have his 

765
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,840
best year in baseball this year 
with with Juan. 

766
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,080
So I think he's going to hit 
third. 

767
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,880
I think Soto's going to be in 
front of them. 

768
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,760
Look at what Pete did behind 
Soto. 

769
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Best year. 
I think Beau Bichette's going to

770
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,680
be phenomenal. 
So but imagine Beau Bichette and

771
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,520
then trade for for Nico. 
I mean, now that Brian is a 

772
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,000
World Series team, that really 
is all right. 

773
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,160
So Eli, right. 
We did the Belichick stuff 

774
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000
yesterday. 
The the Pro Football Hall of 

775
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Fame is an absolute travesty. 
And I'm like, one thing I'm not 

776
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480
going to do, I just don't 
believe in it. 

777
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Like I'm not going to recreate 
the the nutty energy from 

778
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,720
yesterday. 
If you missed yesterday's show, 

779
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,760
man, I was on one yesterday. 
Everything that I touched on, I 

780
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560
was I was revved up. 
I mean, absolutely everything. 

781
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,120
And it started with that dope 
Bill Pullian getting in the way.

782
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,480
And you know, with, with, with 
Kraft and Belichick, Belichick 

783
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,840
not receiving 10 votes from 
people to get to the Hall of 

784
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Fame. 
I mean, it's an absolute 

785
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,000
travesty. 
So that was the main part of the

786
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,520
show yesterday. 
Now we learned last night, and 

787
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,800
I'm not surprised, but second 
straight year Eli did not 

788
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,360
receive the required votes. 
He's denied as well. 

789
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,280
Eli's one of 15 on the modern 
era finalists list there. 

790
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,640
You got Drew Brees, you've got 
Larry Fitzgerald, you got Adam 

791
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Vinatieri. 
Those guys are absolutely going 

792
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,360
to get in, see, and I know I'm 
going to make some enemies with 

793
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,200
this here, but this is just the 
way it's got to be. 

794
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Now. 
I hope you hear what I'm saying 

795
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,400
and not what you think I'm 
saying, because this happens a 

796
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,680
lot with Eli. 
I get it. 

797
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Like when you and I respect it, 
like I'm I'm being fully 

798
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,120
transparent. 
I'm not, I'm not needling you. 

799
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,720
I'm being totally real. 
But when there's a conversation 

800
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,520
about Eli and the Hall of Fame 
giant fans get like this, like 

801
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,760
that, that energy just they get 
they get on edge. 

802
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,600
You know why they get on edge is
they know it's a kind of, it's a

803
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,400
flimsy case. 
They know what they watched and 

804
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,720
they know for basically 15 
years, Eli Manning was never one

805
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,800
of the best quarterbacks in 
football, period. 

806
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Now separating the great 
moments. 

807
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,520
And I also admit Eli is going to
get into the Hall of Fame and he

808
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,520
should based on his place in 
football lore, beating Belichick

809
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,720
and Brady twice, you know, being
the quarterback of the New York 

810
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:50,280
Football Giants, winning the MVP
in the Super Bowl twice. 

811
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,400
The helmet catch, the 6th row 
down the sidelines, that 46 yard

812
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,880
gain, right, That Manningham or 
Hicks, I think that was, I think

813
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,680
that was Mario Manningham. 
Either way, what are the best 

814
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,760
throws I've ever seen, right, 
Eli, one of the best people that

815
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,960
you can possibly meet. 
This is not about that. 

816
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,800
This is about really remembering
and not embellishing what you 

817
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960
watched as a football fan. 
And I got a simple question for 

818
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,040
you when you would sit down to 
watch football, whether it's the

819
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,840
red zone, you know, whether it's
CBS, whether it's Fox, more 

820
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,080
specifically for the Giants 
there, you know, Sunday night, 

821
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,320
ESPN Thursday, whatever the hell
channel that game's on or was on

822
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,600
back then. 
I don't even know anymore. 

823
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,560
So many channels stream this. 
Won't you stream this stream? 

824
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,320
Eli Manning, When you watched 
and you had your fantasy team 

825
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,200
going, he had a couple of bets 
sprinkled out, a couple of 

826
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,280
parlays, couple of reverses, 
this team laying a touchdown. 

827
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,120
This team, you know, hey, this 
team dogs, 2 1/2 point dogs, you

828
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,560
know, you got the whole Sunday 
set up, the food, the multiple 

829
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,040
TV's, the laptop, checking all 
the fantasy scores. 

830
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,240
As I said, you watch the whole 
league. 

831
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Unlike baseball. 
Now, I'm not sitting there 

832
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,240
watching the Reds and the 
Pirates. 

833
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,560
Like you know, I'll watch the 
Red Sox if, if a good pitcher is

834
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,600
going or like crochet, you know,
obviously watch the Yanks and 

835
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,600
Mets every night. 
I'll check in on the Phillies, 

836
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,520
the Dodgers. 
Now I'll be checking in with 

837
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Toronto and I'm not sitting 
there watching, you know, if 

838
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,160
it's a 10:30 first pitch. 
Giants, I don't know, a Giants, 

839
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,280
Dodgers, I might for an inning 
or two. 

840
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,200
But the point is you don't. 
We don't consume baseball the 

841
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,880
way we consume football. 
Football is an all day 

842
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,040
consumption and it's really for 
me, the only sport that you can 

843
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,640
derive any sort of real 
pleasure. 

844
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,400
For me, this is just the way I'm
wired, watching other teams play

845
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,520
more than mine. 
Well, I mean that again, if I 

846
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,960
was relying on the Chets to 
provide any sort of happiness or

847
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,960
excitement, I, I would watch 
cricket instead of watching 

848
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,560
football. 
So I mean, I've got to gravitate

849
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,160
to some other players and some 
other teams. 

850
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,880
Otherwise it would be like, 
honestly, it would be like work.

851
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,520
Got to watch football today, got
to watch The Jets. 

852
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Jeez. 
You know, it really, it does 

853
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,000
feel like work anyway, during 
Eli's career. 

854
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,520
Is going to rifle through some 
names, some are obvious, right? 

855
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,320
Tom Brady? 
Go Peyton, one of the top three 

856
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,520
or four of all time. 
Drew Brees, absolutely better. 

857
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,120
Aaron Rodgers. 
Now this will receive some 

858
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,760
pushback it shouldn't on a week 
to week basis. 

859
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,880
Philip Rivers, better. 
Ben Roethlisberger, better. 

860
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,080
Matt Ryan better. 
Russell Wilson not not all these

861
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,120
guys started when when Eli. 
So I get that. 

862
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,320
Russell Wilson during his prime 
better. 

863
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,200
Tony Romo now this is one that's
going to put giant fans in a 

864
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360
tizzy better And I'll tell you 
why in a minute, right? 

865
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,600
So you look at all this and 
like, let's not try to reinvent 

866
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,960
the wheel. 
Let's just be very transparent 

867
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,440
and very honest about this. 
The only reason And again, I'm 

868
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,840
telling you he's going to get 
in. 

869
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,200
But this notion now the volumes 
not nearly as loud as the 

870
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Belichick stuff. 
Thank God. 

871
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,120
But for giants fans, why Eli 
didn't get in again. 

872
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Do you lucky he ever gets in 
which he will all right. 

873
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,400
But to think that Eli should be 
jumping in front of a Fitzgerald

874
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,160
or a Drew Brees. 
Are you out of your mind? 

875
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Like did you watch football? 
I mean, you know, think about 

876
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,440
all your now this is not the 
main. 

877
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,720
Oh, I just dropped my and it's 
on the other side of the room. 

878
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Think about all of the fantasy 
drafts that you've sat in, 

879
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,720
right? 
And to me, the fun part, like 

880
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,880
you got to do it in person. 
You got to be with the boys. 

881
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,360
To me, a fan, and I've had to do
a few of these lately because 

882
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,240
busy kids games, people move 
away. 

883
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,720
Life changes, right? 
But for the first, I don't know,

884
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,280
20 years of me doing fan, 15 
years of me doing fantasy 

885
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,880
football, make it 20. 
It was always like, let's take a

886
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,560
road trip, let's get together 
and then let's play cards and 

887
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,600
shoot hoops or whatever we're 
going to do watch hoops, right? 

888
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,440
Like we would always do our 
baseball fantasy draft during 

889
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,960
like the Sweet 16 or the Elite 
8, my buddy Mike's house at my 

890
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,640
buddy Mike's house. 
And and then after that bust out

891
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,880
the cards, make it an all day 
thing, have a couple of beers, 

892
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,600
whatever. 
Like you got to do it in person 

893
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,360
anyway as you're drafting, 
right? 

894
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Was anybody in a rush to get Eli
Manning on your fantasy football

895
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,760
team? 
Now, again, that what does that 

896
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,240
really mean? 
It's what is it emblematic of? 

897
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,040
It's not necessarily emblematic 
of Hall of Fame candidacy. 

898
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,360
I'm not saying that. 
I'm not saying there's that 

899
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,960
direct of a correlation. 
But what I am absolutely saying 

900
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,360
is that generally the 
quarterback that you draft is a 

901
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,440
guy that's going to put up, I 
don't know, pretty good stats. 

902
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,960
And there were a lot of players,
not to mention a couple of 

903
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,640
years. 
Donovan McNabb. 

904
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,920
I'm just throwing names out. 
Victoria, you know, even Farve 

905
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,600
at the end, what, 38 touchdowns 
with the Vikings that one year. 

906
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,480
There were so many names that 
you had to have before Eli. 

907
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,200
Doesn't mean you don't want Eli 
to be a quarterback in, in terms

908
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,360
of real football, because he's a
great leader, incredibly 

909
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,200
durable, emotionally consistent 
and a good player. 

910
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,000
He just wasn't great and I don't
understand why you guys can't 

911
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,400
understand that. 
It really is like the defense, 

912
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:17,720
the rush to defend Eli, which I 
I do respect, but you can defend

913
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,840
him without twisting the 
narrative to a point that's not 

914
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,840
applicable. 
He just wasn't a great player. 

915
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,600
Eli had great moments and 
there's a big difference and I 

916
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,480
just I and I remember saying 
this with Sal who agrees with me

917
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,480
by the way, and and others Tiki 
didn't, but I don't know if I 

918
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,880
don't really don't I I don't 
know. 

919
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,640
I don't honestly, I love Tiki. 
I don't know what Tiki thinks 

920
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,680
what Eli because when Tiki when 
Tiki said what he said about 

921
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,800
Eli, Tiki got dragged. 
And by the way, he should not 

922
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,720
have because if you actually 
watch what he said about Eli, 

923
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,920
you got to know Tiki the way I 
know him. 

924
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,440
He really didn't mean it. 
It wasn't a derisive shot. 

925
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,680
It was more talking about his 
personality. 

926
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Like when Eli tries to lead, 
it's comical. 

927
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,480
And you see that in quotes like 
what? 

928
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,240
Oh, I can't stand screw Tiki. 
What did he say about my guy? 

929
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,480
You know, Tiki didn't win Eli 
that it and it really was unfair

930
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,600
to Tiki. 
But it really there was a bit of

931
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,760
a misrepresentation because what
he meant was he was kind of, you

932
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,200
know, goofy in a in a good way 
and very funny. 

933
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,480
So that when the Eli would lead 
Eli, it wasn't like that. 

934
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,920
You know, that like Jameis 
Winston in the huddle before, 

935
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,440
you know, when he when he was a 
starter get or Drew Brees 

936
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,520
getting everybody read up or Tom
Brady was a different, different

937
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,920
presentation Anyway. 
So I don't really know what tiki

938
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,360
thinks about Eli. 
So you know, he said he said 

939
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,400
that and then along the way he 
said some things were went the 

940
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,560
other direction where I'm like, 
all right, take it easy, buddy. 

941
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,880
Like you don't have to overdo it
here. 

942
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,920
I we, we know, we I know I had 
your back with that. 

943
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,720
I always defend. 
Nobody defended Tiki more than 

944
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,040
me. 
Nobody, right, because I thought

945
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,920
he was worth defending. 
I thought a lot of things got 

946
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,280
thrown out of place there and I 
don't like that nobody else 

947
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,880
defended him but me. 
And but also you can't take it 

948
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,360
to the other. 
You can't make him something he 

949
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,320
wasn't and he was just not a 
superstar. 

950
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Like he was nowhere near some of
those names that I mentioned, 

951
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,560
right. 
Think about this guy's If I said

952
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,440
to you, forget about the name 
Eli Manning, strip that away. 

953
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Player X All right, we got 
player X right now. 0 This is a 

954
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,800
really incriminating stat, and I
don't think many of you know 

955
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,760
this. 
Zero as in less than one regular

956
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,960
season MVP votes. 
You're a quarterback, you know, 

957
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,600
and the quarterbacks and maybe 
the defensive end or like Troy 

958
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,800
Palamalu, like some crazy 
safety, one of those guys 

959
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Megatron, like some of these 
beasts out of these world 

960
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,040
receivers. 
But most of the votes go to 

961
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:51,520
quarterbacks 0. 
Not a single regular season MVP 

962
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,080
vote. 
So I could just end the 

963
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,480
conversation there, but I'm 
doing a podcast. 

964
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,200
I'm not looking a mic drop. 
I'm I'm I'm looking to to 

965
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480
continue this hold on. 
I want to make sure I don't 

966
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:51,520
have. 
We will be right back 

967
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:12,320
fans, do not worry. 
BT will be back very shortly so 

968
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:33,840
just give it like 2 seconds. 
Good. 

969
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,320
You're good. 
We're good. 

970
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,160
Yeah. 
I got to get something to looked

971
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,720
at. 
That's that is not anything to 

972
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,320
do with the camera. 
That is actually something with 

973
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,760
my laptop. 
That's a little thing. 

974
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,160
All right, Full lines are down. 
All right, I'm back here. 

975
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,400
All right, so 00 regular season 
MVP votes never made All Pro, 

976
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,640
never led the NFL in a single 
offensive category, average 

977
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,360
career passing rating. 
And he led the league in picks 

978
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,800
three times. 
Now, if you take away Eli 

979
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,480
Manning's name, and that's 
again, that's just player X, no 

980
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,120
regular season MVP votes, never 
all pro, never a single 

981
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,760
offensive category. 
He led average passer rating and

982
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,840
three times led the league in 
picks, never led the league in 

983
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,680
touchdowns. 
Or are we really making a case 

984
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,760
that that guy's a whole the 
Famer? 

985
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,320
The answer is no. 
I'm going to answer my own 

986
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,600
question. 
It's it's it's undeniably no. 

987
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,440
But what changes the complexion 
of this conversation, and I get 

988
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,160
it, is that he's a two time 
Super Bowl MVP. 

989
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Now, if Eli only had one, he's 
not a Hall of Famer. 

990
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,840
And I have no problem saying 
that I I really don't think that

991
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,680
he would be, nor do I think that
he should be. 

992
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,600
And I think at least so far, the
voters are getting this aspect 

993
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,880
of it right. 
And we'll see eventually he's 

994
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,800
going to get in. 
I mean, it doesn't hurt that 

995
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,320
your last name is Manning. 
And even if it was Eli Jones, 

996
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,000
you know, a quarterback of the 
Giants, all the reasons I said 

997
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,520
before, probably would get in. 
But this notion that, like, Eli 

998
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,520
is on the side of the road 
waiting unfairly for somebody 

999
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,880
for the Hall of Fame caravan to 
pick him up while, you know, all

1000
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,200
these other players who he was 
better than are just on the bus 

1001
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,600
and waving on the highways. 
He's sitting there looking for a

1002
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,360
ride, trying to hitch his wagon 
to somebody. 

1003
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,480
It's it's ridiculously 
overstated. 

1004
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,920
It's not even remotely accurate.
You know, And again, you know, 

1005
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,680
just go back to and if you're a 
Giants fan, you almost have to 

1006
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,960
detach yourself from this. 
So I guess at least for this 

1007
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,720
moment, I'm talking to everybody
but the Giant fans, right? 

1008
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Where all you have to do is 
watch the red zone. 

1009
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,320
And you're watching the red zone
on a weekly basis. 

1010
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,760
And you seen all these 
quarterbacks, you know, and I 

1011
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,360
don't know if you're a fan in 
Chicago, if you're a fan down in

1012
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,320
Jacksonville, if you're a fan 
down in Carolina, if you're a 

1013
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,120
fan out West with the Niners or 
at that point in, in Oakland, 

1014
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,920
the Raiders, you know, now Vegas
will still West, but or Seattle 

1015
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,320
up in the great Pacific 
Northwest or Arizona in the 

1016
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,240
desert. 
Like, are you sitting on the 

1017
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,360
edge of your chair? 
Like, all right, red zone, Scott

1018
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,120
Hanson, Giants playing whomever.
Wow, what did Eli do today? 

1019
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,960
No, you respect Eli for a lot of
the reasons I already told you. 

1020
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Great character, great 
durability, 2 time Super Bowl 

1021
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
champ, but that's pretty much 
it, you know, and that's OK. 

1022
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,480
And by the way, to be fair, 
further to Eli, I think the way 

1023
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,080
he's processed this, I think 
he's been well, it's, it's 

1024
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,920
incredibly consistent with his 
character. 

1025
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,800
He's like, listen, I'm totally 
cool with what I did. 

1026
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,640
And that's why he's really, and 
it never sounds this way when 

1027
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,040
I'm having this conversation, 
but he's really one of my 

1028
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,720
favorite people. 
Like I love Eli, I love him, I 

1029
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:27,280
love Eli and I'm just very 
literal when it comes to Hall of

1030
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
Fame stuff. 
Like, you know that like I'm 

1031
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,800
just not one of these guys who 
kind of like sports and likes to

1032
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,840
get on and talk about stuff 
other than sports. 

1033
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,480
I like to talk about sports 
because I watch sports and I 

1034
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,880
know sports and I've always 
cared about sports immensely. 

1035
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,960
So to me, if I feel like a 
conversation is getting a little

1036
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,400
bit hijacked, I I feel like I've
got to kind of throw it in there

1037
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,880
and that's what I do at the 
under score. 

1038
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,880
Rod, who are the other QBs 
during Eli's time? 

1039
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,200
They got the regular season 
votes. 

1040
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,120
I just named a bunch of them, 
Drew Breeze. 

1041
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,720
I mean, Aaron Rodgers, Philip 
Rivers, Big Ben, Peyton, Tom 

1042
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,680
Brady, Matt Ryan won the MVP, 
Russell Wilson. 

1043
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,840
I would have to think Romo got a
vote or two. 

1044
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,240
Look at Tony Romo's stats. 
They're absolutely insane. 

1045
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,280
How about just plain fishing 
5354? 

1046
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,480
Dude, if you're dropping line 
today, I'm going to be very 

1047
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,960
jealous. 
I have not been fishing in a 

1048
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,240
while. 
We got to do a little fishing 

1049
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,080
show at some point. 
I'd love to fish. 

1050
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,000
I love the handle and I 
appreciate that. 

1051
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Very generous. 
Thanks, man. 

1052
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,800
All right, Sweet Lou in Florida.
It was an honor to meet you and 

1053
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,520
Sal and Boonie at the live show.
Oh, that's right. 

1054
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,000
Yes, I remember you now. 
Awesome. 

1055
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,160
Eli is 11th and passing yards in
touchdowns. 

1056
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,200
No doubt you're true Factually, 
we you're right holds the record

1057
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,040
for most yards in a single 
postseason. 

1058
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,320
Hold the Famer pedalize for 
playing in the Brady era. 

1059
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,280
Well again, and thank you for 
that. 

1060
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,320
Awesome and great to meet you. 
So to come in from Florida for a

1061
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,000
live show that we were 
experimenting with now it was 

1062
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,760
awesome. 
And we're planning another one 

1063
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,560
And the next target is Long 
Island. 

1064
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,560
I can tell you that I don't 
know. 

1065
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,760
I don't have the date. 
Think I have the venue, but not 

1066
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,400
comfortable enough to divulge it
yet. 

1067
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,880
But the next target, BT and 
South live Long Island. 

1068
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,320
We're coming out east and we're 
coming out strong. 

1069
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,280
All right. 
But the fly in from Florida to 

1070
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,160
come and show us support. 
I mean, that is just that's 

1071
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,280
wonderful, man, I, I, I really 
can't thank you enough. 

1072
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,600
It's, it's great, but understand
what I'm saying, I'm not saying 

1073
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,760
he's not going to get in the 
Hall of Fame. 

1074
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,480
I'm just saying that I guess 
really what I'm saying is he's 

1075
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,600
overrated because when you look 
at the, when you hear all the 

1076
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,920
fame, there's an immediate and 
now I know it's diluted with 

1077
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,360
baseball as well, last couple of
years, last decade or so. 

1078
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,520
But like there's there shouldn't
there shouldn't be no downgrade 

1079
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,800
or no dilution or no. 
Well, he's a full Hall of Famer,

1080
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,880
but you don't really have to 
contextualize Hall of Fame Hall 

1081
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,280
of Famer. 
You know, hey, Derek Jeter, Hall

1082
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,080
of Famer, Lawrence Taylor, Hall 
of Famer, Patrick Ewing, Hall of

1083
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,200
Famer, you know, Henrik 
Lundquist, Hall of Famer. 

1084
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:53,720
You just know what you watched, 
right? 

1085
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,520
You know, Marc Messier. 
I don't know why I'm dropping 

1086
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,280
these hockey. 
By the way, the Rangers lost 

1087
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,600
again to the Islanders. 
The Isles are three and O 

1088
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Rangers are a disaster. 
Rangers suck. 

1089
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,120
I mean, the Rangers are Rangers 
have no soul. 

1090
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,680
Rangers have no spine. 
Rangers are a disgrace guy. 

1091
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,240
He got pumped again. 
Islanders beat him three and O 

1092
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:16,680
this year again. 
I think they're playing to begin

1093
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,160
tonight or tomorrow either way. 
You know Hall of Farmers, you 

1094
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,440
know Claude Frazier, Willis 
Reed, you know the Nick Tom 

1095
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Seaver, you know Reggie Jackson,
you know Mariano is no thought. 

1096
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,520
Whitey Ford, Mickey Mantle, Yogi
Berra, it's Hall of Famer. 

1097
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,000
Does Eli stack up with those 
guys? 

1098
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:41,920
No, but the totality, the 
totality I said that very really

1099
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,640
enunciated those syllables, the 
totality of Eli's career will 

1100
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,000
get him there, and I'm OK with 
that. 

1101
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,960
He should get there eventually, 
and he will. 

1102
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,320
I'm just letting you know that, 
you know, the other side of the 

1103
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,600
coin. 
I think it's my responsibility 

1104
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,680
as somebody who, you know, 
carries the flag for sporting 

1105
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,080
passion. 
One of those people, not the 

1106
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,680
only one, but yeah, there's a 
lot of people out there that 

1107
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,040
really don't know what they're 
talking about and really don't 

1108
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,800
care. 
They're making big, fat 

1109
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,240
paychecks. 
And are they really watching? 

1110
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,560
Do they really love it the way 
many of us love it when we were 

1111
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:17,600
kids? 
The answer is no. 

1112
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,960
That's why when a lot of people 
say, dude, well, how are you so 

1113
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,720
passionate? 
How are you always so 

1114
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,480
passionate? 
Like, it's not like I'm getting 

1115
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,280
on the air like the Yankees won 
a playoff game last night and 

1116
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,280
you get the fire because I love 
this. 

1117
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,760
And when you love something, 
you're going to defend things 

1118
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,160
with vigor, you're going to push
back on things with with vigor, 

1119
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,840
You're going to provide context 
when it's applicable. 

1120
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,360
Like those are things that just 
are inherently within me. 

1121
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,240
And the Eli thing always gets me
in trouble. 

1122
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:49,920
It's nuts. 
It always gets me in trouble to 

1123
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,080
an extent, not the way it used 
to, because I think many of you 

1124
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,000
understand that at this point. 
I'm right. 

1125
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,720
J Rod, anything else going on 
there, buddy? 

1126
00:54:58,720 --> 00:54:59,960
What do we got? 
We good. 

1127
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Let's see checking out some some
of these chats. 

1128
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Oh, people are saying Florida 
for the next live show. 

1129
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,240
I mean, I'm seeing a lot of 
comments from from Florida. 

1130
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Florida, huh? 
I got married. 

1131
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,480
We got, we got married down to 
Florida. 

1132
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,680
We got married down to Boca. 
Nice. 

1133
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,680
Yeah. 
I mean, Boca Boca. 

1134
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,880
Love it. 
Beautiful. 

1135
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:22,760
Yeah, Florida's awesome, man. 
Florida's. 

1136
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,720
I love Florida, too. 
I've got a lot of relatives in 

1137
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:27,520
Florida. 
I I listen to the plausibility 

1138
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,280
of taking the entire show to 
Florida. 

1139
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,560
Yeah, you know, one thing at a 
time here, brick by brick. 

1140
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,960
You know, we're not we're not 
Eminem going on tour where it's 

1141
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,680
a guaranteed sell out no matter 
where we go. 

1142
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,960
Let's build it. 
Let's get this thing going. 

1143
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,920
One for one. 
BT and Sal live show rousing 

1144
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,480
success, and I know the second 
one will also be a rousing 

1145
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,560
success because of the fans. 
You know, I'm not even saying 

1146
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,040
because of me and Sal, because 
of you guys, like you just 

1147
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,200
brought juice. 
And when we go to Long Island 

1148
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,520
that play, I expect the roof to 
pop off, man. 

1149
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,760
It's going to be a bigger venue 
and it's going to be even better

1150
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,960
because as you do it for the 
first time, you learn what 

1151
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,920
works. 
And I think pretty much 

1152
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
everything worked to be to be 
fair, And I don't mean that in 

1153
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,880
an arrogant way, but mostly 
everything we did popped. 

1154
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Like, there wasn't much wasted 
time or fumbling around, like, 

1155
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,000
oh, what do we do? 
And we were on stage for 2 1/2 

1156
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,760
hours. 
I mean, you know, I'm not a 

1157
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,160
comedian. 
You know, I'm not. 

1158
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:21,400
Yeah, really. 
Like it was. 

1159
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:23,680
I'll tell you what. 
I'll tell you one thing about 

1160
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,120
that stage, J Rod, when you get 
on that stage, man, you, you, 

1161
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,400
you know, you've sung and you've
traveled. 

1162
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,360
You know, it is intoxicating. 
It's one thing. 

1163
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,000
And I love the microphone and I 
love being on TV and I I love, 

1164
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,640
you know, entertaining and 
presenting. 

1165
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,040
But when you're on a stage in 
front of people, not to mention 

1166
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,120
chilling in the green room 
before I, I felt like a big shot

1167
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,560
that. 
Yeah. 

1168
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,200
J. 
Rod, I don't know, live 

1169
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,960
audiences are different. 
And like you said, you know, 

1170
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,440
it's all, it really isn't even 
about you doing what you're 

1171
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,880
doing. 
It's just the fact that people 

1172
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,600
are there, people are coming to 
support. 

1173
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,840
So yeah, I feel like that's the 
great thing with all of it. 

1174
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,720
Absolutely awesome. 
All right, I keep looking at my 

1175
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,360
computer and I keep seeing the 
the battery dwindling here. 

1176
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,800
So that's something I've got to 
rectify, which I will. 

1177
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,800
I just have to make sure that I 
get this in. 

1178
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,400
And then if you could do me a 
favor, J Roy, just check for a 

1179
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,560
couple of some of those good 
texts there, whether it's the 

1180
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Eli stuff, whether it's the 
Cashman stuff, whatever. 

1181
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,320
It might be something that 
pertains to something that we've

1182
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,360
hit already. 
I want to make sure I don't miss

1183
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,400
this. 
So last night, Knicks look good.

1184
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,680
Last night. 
I'm not going to change my 

1185
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,760
opinion. 
Knicks aren't going to win 

1186
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,240
anything in terms of the 
championship with this crew. 

1187
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,560
They're just not. 
But they did look good last 

1188
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,840
night. 
They won four straight. 

1189
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,520
I want to give credit where 
credit's due. 

1190
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,560
I'm not trying to be Mr. 
Negativity. 

1191
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,560
I don't think they're good 
enough to win the championship. 

1192
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,040
I would absolutely trade cat. 
I would get rid of bridges. 

1193
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Do what you got to do to get you
can leave that up there. 

1194
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,760
I'll get to that in a minute. 
Get to you know, I I would trade

1195
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,640
do whatever you have to do to 
get Yanis right. 

1196
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,320
All those things. 
But Mikhail Bridges last night, 

1197
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,840
somebody who I have been all 
over lately because he hasn't 

1198
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,640
played great plays a little bit 
too soft for my taste. 

1199
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:03,200
His post game comments were 
about as deep and as as like, I 

1200
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,520
don't know that I can respect 
anything much more than a 

1201
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,480
professional athlete making 20, 
five, $30 million a year, 

1202
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,960
whatever he's making, being this
vulnerable and this forthright 

1203
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,760
in his own personal assessment. 
So he said he was with Clyde 

1204
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,560
after the game and he said that 
the onus on some of his recent 

1205
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,720
play is on him for and he's got 
to be more, quote, coachable. 

1206
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,280
I mean, how about when was the 
last time you heard a player say

1207
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,440
that? 
I've got it. 

1208
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,920
It's always them them. 
It's very rarely the thumb to 

1209
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,440
the chest, as I like to say. 
It's always somebody else's 

1210
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,720
fault. 
What amazing accountability. 

1211
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,760
Amazing right there. 
I've got to be more coachable. 

1212
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,480
And then he also attributed some
of his struggles to a sense of, 

1213
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,360
quote, entitlement. 
Wow. 

1214
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,040
Now that one is a different wow.
It's one thing to say you've got

1215
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,040
to be more coachable like me. 
That's translating, all right. 

1216
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,480
Maybe a little resistant to the 
new offense, whatever it might 

1217
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,440
be. 
That's like schematical stuff, 

1218
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,280
the entitlement stuff. 
That's unacceptable. 

1219
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,960
What the hell are you entitled 
about? 

1220
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,760
Entitled. 
You get to the foul line once a 

1221
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,320
night in 1.3 * a game. 
What are you? 

1222
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,800
You haven't gotten to the NBA 
Finals as a Knick. 

1223
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,720
You haven't won the championship
as a Knick. 

1224
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,520
What are you entitled about? 
Why? 

1225
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,920
Cuz you won the NBA Cup in the 
middle of the season. 

1226
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,640
That was a weird 1. 
So I still give him credit for 

1227
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,840
being that vulnerable and that 
transparent. 

1228
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,160
But why the hell is he entitled?
If anybody should say that, it's

1229
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Brunson, and Brunson would never
say that. 

1230
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,040
So this is another reason why, 
while I can respect somebody as 

1231
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,800
I do, I still want him to be 
traded. 

1232
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,920
I hope he is because he had 
issues with Tom Thibodeau last 

1233
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,840
year. 
Remember that about the minutes?

1234
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,520
And then Tom Thibodeau was like,
Nah, we got no problem. 

1235
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,360
Like he diffused it and he 
basically lied just for the 

1236
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,800
betterment of the team to make 
sure that the Knicks could keep 

1237
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,720
going and push forward. 
But behind the scenes, Bridges 

1238
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,480
was one of those guys who was 
kind of grease in the skids to 

1239
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,040
get Tom Thibodeau out of there. 
So let me get this straight. 

1240
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,000
You got a problem with Tom 
Thibodeau last year and now up 

1241
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,040
until last night. 
We had a problem with the coach 

1242
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,440
this year. 
A new coach. 

1243
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,320
Well, why you not Michael 
Jordan? 

1244
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,160
You know Patrick Ewing, not 
LeBron. 

1245
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,400
Get a grab, man. 
Sense of entitlement, dude. 

1246
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:23,840
Come on, come on, come on and 
let me read this here. 

1247
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,760
Come on. 
By the way, I got a Starbucks 

1248
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,240
today. 
Even though it's in the it's 

1249
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,360
actually in the mug. 
My wife who was basically sick 

1250
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,120
with three. 
Let me tell you one thing about 

1251
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:37,440
being a dad when and listen, 
wives can drive you nuts and we 

1252
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,720
could drive them nuts and you 
know, household two kids, you 

1253
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,440
know, expenses. 
Now I'm home every day new show 

1254
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,520
games every night practices 
there. 

1255
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Hey, sign up for this, do this 
school homework and it's a lot. 

1256
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:55,320
It's a beautiful, incredibly 
rewarding slash tough juggle to 

1257
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,240
be fully as a dad. 
Not easy. 

1258
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,280
Anybody who says it's easy is a 
liar. 

1259
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,440
OK, but the reward is is through
the roof. 

1260
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,840
But I will say this, when the 
woman of the house goes down and

1261
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:15,160
get sick, it's help time out. 
I, you know, I hey, time out on 

1262
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,360
the floor. 
We, we, we got to intervene here

1263
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,000
now. 
And she's a trooper. 

1264
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,680
Like she plows through almost 
everything. 

1265
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,560
She was in bed for a good two 
days for one point. 

1266
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,040
I'm like, alright, we milking it
here a little bit. 

1267
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,400
It's getting a little bit long 
here, but I know she wasn't. 

1268
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,720
But I did think that for a 
second, even yesterday, to the 

1269
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,800
point where I'm like, I can't 
look at these dishes in the sink

1270
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,120
anymore. 
I, I loaded them up, You know, 

1271
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,280
I, I wipe down the island with 
the Kleenex, whatever the hell 

1272
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,280
is in the under the counter. 
I don't know, took the kids to 

1273
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,480
school, not that I don't mind me
and I've done that even when 

1274
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,920
she's healthy, like I like doing
that, but when the mom is out of

1275
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,800
whack and the mom is not feeling
right and she's sick, you got to

1276
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,160
hold on for dear life. 
You got to hold on for dear 

1277
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,720
life. 
So thank God mommy is up and 

1278
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,360
about today. 
So mommy went. 

1279
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,240
The point is, mommy went and got
me the the Starbucks, even 

1280
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,600
though it's not in the Starbucks
cup. 

1281
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,600
So I appreciate that for mommy. 
All right, Paul, L-84 drummer. 

1282
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,320
Eli is to football what Tim 
Raines is to baseball. 

1283
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,920
Both will be in the Hall of 
Fame, and neither deserve it. 

1284
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,680
Well, I got to be honest with 
you, I actually think that Tim 

1285
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Raines was better at his job 
than Eli, wasn't his. 

1286
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,920
I almost don't want to go down 
this road because now this is a 

1287
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,040
rabbit hole that could get me in
real trouble with those giant 

1288
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,840
fans, you know? 
But I'm going to react to what's

1289
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,600
on the screen there. 
I mean, Tim Raines, I mean, I 

1290
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,760
really, that's the other thing I
got to do like what I was doing 

1291
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,880
the show with Sal, obviously 
with just BS back and forth. 

1292
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,440
I got my laptop, which is in 
front of me here, cameras up 

1293
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,520
there. 
So I can't, you know, and I, I 

1294
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,200
love to just to reinforce what 
I'm saying, pop up a number. 

1295
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,880
I can't do it now and I don't 
want to do it on the phone 

1296
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,880
because it's just me and I don't
want to, you know, but but 

1297
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,280
knowing what I know about Tim 
Raines and certainly knowing 

1298
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,960
what I know about Eli's, I've 
already documented here many 

1299
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,800
times, I think Tim Raines was 
better at baseball than Eli was 

1300
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,720
in football. 
I mean, Tim Raines with the 

1301
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,840
Expos, with Gary Carter, Andre 
Dawson, and even Tim Raines with

1302
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,200
the White Sox, Tim Raines with 
the Yankees was good and you 

1303
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,400
know, was a sage leader, had 
some big moments. 

1304
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,800
Tim Raines with the with the 
Expos was an All Star basically 

1305
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,080
every year. 
He's one of the best players in 

1306
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,000
the National League. 
He was the National League's 

1307
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,800
version. 
Now he was never this good, but 

1308
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,600
he was the NLS version or the 
NLS answer to Ricky Henderson 

1309
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,680
when he was doing his thing with
the A's in the American League. 

1310
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,800
Tim Raines was a bowler. 
Tim Raines was a beast. 

1311
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,280
I mean, Tim Raines was really, 
Tim Raines was better than Eli. 

1312
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,640
That's an interesting point of 
reference that you throw up on 

1313
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,080
the screen there. 
But yes, I just wanted to get 

1314
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,520
that stuff out there with 
bridges. 

1315
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,240
And let me give you a little pop
here. 

1316
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,760
Very little pop on St. 
John's. 

1317
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,480
So St. 
John's won last night. 

1318
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,120
Good. 
They look, they look really 

1319
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,360
good. 
They've won seven straight 

1320
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,080
games, all right. 
They're now 16 and five, nine 

1321
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,360
and one in the Big East. 
Rick Pitino, you know, over the 

1322
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,080
weekend out of Xavier, a trip 
that I was on, which was great. 

1323
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,160
What is 9 hundredth game? 
And you know, it's funny because

1324
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,920
it is a little bit early for 
this, but I love it. 

1325
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,360
You know, whether it's a mock 
draft, it's never too early for 

1326
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,680
that for me. 
Or even look at it like the 

1327
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,800
brackets like Lenardy or Jerry 
Palm or whatever the the bracket

1328
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,360
matrix that takes all of them. 
It's got a hybrid, you know, 

1329
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,720
average seating. 
I love that stuff. 

1330
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,840
Not that it's the ultimate 
answer, but it's a road map and 

1331
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,320
it's a guideline for me to add 
layers to conversations that 

1332
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,320
matter of fact, I brought this 
up on the air with Mink last 

1333
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,760
night right about where St. 
John's is currently trending as 

1334
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,520
a seed. 
And if I hadn't done all that 

1335
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,840
research, I, I really wouldn't 
know. 

1336
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,480
So I just, it just kind of 
guides me and then I could agree

1337
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,160
or I could disagree with it. 
Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, 

1338
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,640
St. 
John's now they, they failed to 

1339
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,000
really cash in on those big 
games early. 

1340
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,160
Like the Kentucky game, the 
Auburn game was a brutal 1-2 or 

1341
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,840
three others that if they would 
have won, you know, they would 

1342
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,440
have been they would have built 
still in the top ten. 

1343
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,720
Anyway, two weeks ago St. 
John's was in that 8-9 game. 

1344
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,040
Everybody like that was a 
general consensus 8-9 match up. 

1345
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,760
And believe it or not, I mean 
that's that's where they belong 

1346
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,080
despite being the 5th rated team
coming into the season, which 

1347
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,960
was ridiculous. 
I really thought it was 

1348
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,720
exciting, but I thought St. 
John's was wildly overrated 

1349
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,440
because most of the guys that 
did stuff outside of Zubi were 

1350
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,160
gone. 
So it was more on reputation and

1351
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,720
Pitino. 
So I think they were overrated 

1352
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,440
coming in. 
I think right now St. 

1353
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,880
John's is back at the top 25. 
At #25 is underrated and 

1354
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,840
undervalued. 
So they went from the eighth 

1355
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,240
seed and then they had 4 quad 
one Rd. wins. 

1356
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,560
Then they beat Marquette by 
about 20 something. 

1357
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Then they won't again and that 
was a quad 2 this past weekend 

1358
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,200
again Xavier. 
And then they beat Butler. 

1359
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,240
He's supposed to be Butler. 
They were 10 point favorites, 

1360
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,600
but they smacked them by 20 
something points. 

1361
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,560
And Butler was playing very good
basketball. 

1362
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,240
Coming in, St. 
John's looks as dangerous as 

1363
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,280
they've looked all year. 
And listen, this is all 

1364
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,200
coincided with Dylan Mitchell 
going into the starting line up 

1365
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,040
Saint John's front court with 
Zooby, with Bryce Hopkins and 

1366
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,040
Dylan Mitchell is the best front
court in America. 

1367
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,920
Now, I don't know if they're 
going to have, if the point 

1368
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,440
guard plays going to be their 
match up specific NCAA 

1369
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,280
tournament. 
UConn coming up next Friday at 

1370
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,280
the Garden, which is going to be
bonkers. 

1371
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,280
But right now it's the first 
time because I've been down on 

1372
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,960
Saint John's. 
I remember after the third game,

1373
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,400
my son, who's the biggest Saint 
John's fan in the world, right, 

1374
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,960
loves them and he knows them and
he said, dad, I don't, I don't, 

1375
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,160
I don't know. 
I don't like I don't this team 

1376
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,400
doesn't look right. 
So they had to the third game 

1377
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,200
and I was like, give them time. 
They got Rick and and then the 

1378
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,320
more I watched them, I'm like, I
think you're right now they've 

1379
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,800
regenerated because they found 
out the right combinations and 

1380
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,800
that's all because of Pitino. 
But that front court is taking 

1381
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,240
a, you know, second fiddle to 
nobody. 

1382
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,920
Zubi is a pro Bryce Hopkins is 
phenomenal. 

1383
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,800
He's back to being Bryce Hopkins
and Dylan Mitchell. 

1384
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,600
He might even on some level be 
more important. 

1385
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,080
Nothing better, but more 
important than Zubi at 1314 

1386
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,080
rebounds, guard anybody one 
through 5. 

1387
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,040
He can't shoot. 
So it's a little bit of a 

1388
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,280
spacing issue. 
Doesn't even try. 

1389
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,520
But man, oh man, St. 
John's is now deep. 

1390
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,760
They are confident, they are 
gelling and this is the best 

1391
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,720
they've looked all year. 
And it's the first time that 

1392
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,520
I've actually thought that St. 
John's could do something. 

1393
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,400
I have not felt that until the 
last week or so. 

1394
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,360
Like, OK, all right, it's coming
together now. 

1395
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,800
You, you, you got to hope. 
I know usually you look on the 

1396
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,480
schedule. 
St. 

1397
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,520
John's plays at the Paul on 
Tuesday and then it's UConn 

1398
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,720
Friday at the Garden. 
I cannot wait to do that game 

1399
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,840
Friday night. 
UConn. 

1400
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,800
Danny Early, who I love. 
I don't know Danny well. 

1401
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,960
I know his dad loved Mr. Hurley.
I know him pretty well, the 

1402
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,240
best. 
But Danny's a nut ball and but I

1403
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,960
love the way he coaches. 
He's a great coach, but he is 

1404
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,560
intense and that garden is going
to be dripping with venom. 

1405
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,560
And UConn fans will try to 
weasel, and they will. 

1406
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,400
They're pretty resourceful. 
Weasel their way in. 

1407
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,200
It'll be 19,000, basically 
20,000. 

1408
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,840
Every seats going to be 
accounted for again, like it is 

1409
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,560
every time they play the last 
couple of years. 

1410
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,680
And it is going to be a street 
fight and provided St. 

1411
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,680
John's doesn't trip against the 
Pole on Tuesday and they'll be 

1412
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,760
favored. 
I think it's going to be a 

1413
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,200
tougher game. 
But I think they should win. 

1414
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,439
You go into that game on an 8 
game win streak and win it 

1415
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:24,439
winners of at that point 10:50 
and you're facing the number two

1416
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,439
team in your crib on a Friday 
night national game of the week.

1417
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,680
You know, I don't know if 
they're better than UConn. 

1418
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,040
I actually right now I don't 
think that they are. 

1419
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,720
And certainly as recently as a 
week ago, I didn't think there 

1420
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,120
was any chance they were or two 
weeks when they start really 

1421
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,960
getting hot. 
Things are changing. 

1422
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,040
You know, Yukon's playing a lot 
of tight games. 

1423
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,040
They're still winning. 
But you know, a lot of seed hall

1424
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,800
hung around, Providence hung 
around, Villanova hung around a 

1425
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,479
little bit. 
So I I know Yukon's really, 

1426
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,000
really good. 
But at least now for the first 

1427
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,560
time this season, I can say so 
is St. 

1428
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,680
John's. 
And I think when it's all said 

1429
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,399
and done, if you want to put me 
on the spot, you know, right now

1430
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:04,240
is a six seed. 
And they went from the 8-9 game 

1431
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,680
to the six seed to one of the 
lower 6 seeds to right now on 

1432
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,120
the bracket matrix, they are the
number 16 seed. 

1433
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,720
I think Saint John's is going to
wind up maybe along among the 

1434
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,399
lower 4 seeds. 
And I would say worst case at 

1435
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:22,479
this point, one of the best 5 
seeds. 

1436
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,720
Like they their trajectory is 
clear. 

1437
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,319
Now, if you beat UConn on 
Friday, you're going to vault 

1438
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:30,080
inside that. 
You're going to go from wherever

1439
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,720
you're rated. 
You know, this Monday, 22 ish, 

1440
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:38,040
you got to jump into, you know, 
1213 territory and at that point

1441
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,279
everything changes. 
So it's fun. 

1442
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,960
Knicks are playing well, still 
don't trust in them, still don't

1443
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,600
believe them. 
Still hope they get Yanis, which

1444
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,840
by the way, spoiler, I know 
they're going to try to move 

1445
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,399
mountains to get Yanis. 
I just don't think it's going to

1446
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:51,920
be able to. 
I don't think they're going to 

1447
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,359
get them. 
I'm worried about Riley. 

1448
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,680
I'm worried about the lack of 
draft equity. 

1449
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,280
I'm worried about what I'm 
hearing and I hope I'm wrong. 

1450
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,520
I'm worried about what I'm 
hearing, about what the Bucks 

1451
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,080
want. 
Young talent, you know, so 

1452
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,920
that's the case. 
You don't want Cat, you're not 

1453
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,080
getting Brunson. 
Do you really want Bridges? 

1454
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,640
Do you want Ogi? 
Mean, I want OG more than 

1455
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,600
bridges on the Knicks. 
But I don't know what the Bucks 

1456
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,400
are thinking. 
I, I, I, I don't know, but at 

1457
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,480
least the Knicks are playing 
better if they're in the honest 

1458
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,480
conversation. 
So you got energy there. 

1459
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,800
Johnny's look terrific. 
As good as they've looked all 

1460
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,960
year, ranges are an absolute 
disaster mess. 

1461
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,800
What a clown show they've turned
into. 

1462
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,280
Just they, they don't have any 
heart. 

1463
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,880
I mean, that's just the way the 
ranges look. 

1464
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,520
It's disgraceful. 
And then the Cashman pushback 

1465
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,680
open invite to my guy Brian 
Cashman. 

1466
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,400
He said it himself. 
Hey, I am willing to accept the 

1467
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,320
challenge of anybody that will 
push back on this being a World 

1468
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,120
Series winning team. 
I push back. 

1469
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,040
Invitation extended. 
Let's do AB. 

1470
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,520
I'd love to have you on the 
show. 

1471
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,280
And obviously the Eli stuff. 
So J Rod, we're going to bounce,

1472
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,720
buddy. 
I got to take care. 

1473
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,520
I got a couple things I could 
just never get a day. 

1474
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,640
Never. 
I have not had a day where I 

1475
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,520
have ended this show and I have 
just had a chance to decompress 

1476
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,560
and do nothing. 
Even when I was coming in and 

1477
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,960
slipping in from the dump of the
city, New York, at least I would

1478
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,680
get in the car or I could put 
some music on like this show 

1479
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,320
ends. 
I'm diving into stuff for 

1480
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,440
tomorrow's show and other stuff.
And now as I'm driving home from

1481
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:20,400
the garden last night, my light 
goes on in the car and now the 

1482
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,520
PSI and the tire, like each one.
You want it around 3132, so 

1483
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,560
31313119. 
I'm like, you got to be kidding 

1484
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,200
me. 
Let me just make sure I get home

1485
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,080
from the gardens. 
I got to go see if I can get in 

1486
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,480
at the car dealership and let 
them look at that. 

1487
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,400
And then I got some stuff to do 
with the logos, which is really 

1488
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,320
fun. 
Then I've got to go. 

1489
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,600
I don't say got to this. 
I get the opportunity to go and 

1490
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,400
coach my daughter's basketball 
game tonight, a rec team still 

1491
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,920
looking for our first win. 
Been a little been a little 

1492
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:53,760
rough sledding the over under on
our team point total tonight. 

1493
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,400
If you look at a bet, you know, 
lay a little something down in 

1494
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,400
Vegas, I'd say the over under is
10 1/2 eleven, usually low 

1495
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,040
scoring games. 
So I've got that. 

1496
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,840
My son's got a huge travel game,
which I can't go to. 

1497
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,800
It's it's a big one because I'll
be coaching her. 

1498
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,880
So I got a busy night with that.
All all is good. 

1499
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,200
Now I got to also run to the 
computer store to see what the 

1500
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,680
hell is going on with my 
computer. 

1501
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,840
Why it just shut off and I think
it's my charger. 

1502
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,360
Like it's a little temperamental
where you got it like twisted 

1503
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,840
perfectly so that it works and 
then like if it falls off then 

1504
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,840
like it stops charging. 
So I think it's just the 

1505
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,840
charger. 
I hope disaster will be averted,

1506
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,640
but let me bounce. 
Have an awesome Thursday. 

1507
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,440
Hey, by the way, yesterday's 
viewership for we're we're 

1508
01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,760
getting to 30. 
We're we are approaching and Jay

1509
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,160
Rock could back me up on this. 
We are approaching 30,000 views 

1510
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,080
a day, which is for now 
phenomenal. 

1511
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,080
And you know eventually that 
will be 40 and 50 and we will 

1512
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,040
raise the bar and keep going 
much like we do with the Subs. 

1513
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,640
We hit 15,000 the other day and 
I'm looking at it right now on 

1514
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,280
my wall sheet of paper. 
Every time I hit a little 

1515
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,040
benchmark, I cross it out and 
I'm looking at the number 20,000

1516
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,600
right now. 
That's the next thing. 

1517
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,080
On to the next one. 
I'm looking at a hundred 1025 

1518
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:12,000
hundred 5010 thousand 12515 and 
now 20 is my next benchmark. 

1519
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,800
So all these things are really, 
really encouraging and awesome. 

1520
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,000
And because of you guys, because
you guys follow me and you know,

1521
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,600
you love the content that I'm 
pumping out. 

1522
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,000
I'm here. 
You know what time I'm here, I'm

1523
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,520
reliable, no days off. 
We're grinding, we're building, 

1524
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,920
we're hustling and it's been a 
lot of fun. 

1525
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,800
But Mondays was was a good 
number, really good. 

1526
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,480
And then Tuesdays was more and 
then yesterday's was almost 30 

1527
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:38,800
and maybe today, hopefully we we
touch 30 for the first time. 

1528
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,320
We've been right in that 
neighborhood probably 3-4, five 

1529
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,640
times since we launched here. 
So Jay, Rod, I'll see you 

1530
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,240
tomorrow, man. 
I'll get with you on the text. 

1531
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,280
So we'll we'll begin to 
structure tomorrow's show. 

1532
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,440
All right, Jay, you want to say 
anything before we get out of 

1533
01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:51,240
here, buddy? 
You good? 

1534
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,120
Thank you, everyone. 
Stay unleashed. 

1535
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,640
Are you listening? 
Are you here? 

1536
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,000
Can you hear me? 
Or you'll listen again. 

1537
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,520
You'll hear me. 
Check you tomorrow morning, 

1538
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,480
everyone. 
Yeah, there he is, Jay Rod into 

1539
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:03,640
his house. 
Thank you, Jay. 

1540
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,080
And again, enjoy the rest of 
your Thursday. 

1541
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,560
I will catch you guys tomorrow 
at 10. 

1542
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,840
Like it? 
Subscribe it. 

1543
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,200
You know, I don't really even 
fully know what hype is. 

1544
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,560
I think I know what it is, but 
people who say it is a good 

1545
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,120
thing go out there, hype this 
stuff up. 

1546
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:20,240
The more likes, the more 
comments, the more the algorithm

1547
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,120
starts saying, all right, this 
thing's working. 

1548
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,800
We're getting the digital 
imprint. 

1549
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,720
And by the way, if you notice, 
if you follow the YouTube page, 

1550
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,520
I respond quite a bit. 
That's something else I do a lot

1551
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,160
after the show. 
So I respond to a lot of not 

1552
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,840
everyone, but I I respond to a 
lot of the comments, even the 

1553
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,040
haters, and it's been a little 
hater Ray, not much, but a 

1554
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,800
couple of haters slipping 
through the cracks and that's 

1555
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,960
good. 
Like you can't have all, you 

1556
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,800
know, Oh, you're the best this 
shit. 

1557
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,880
Like I want that, like I invite 
that. 

1558
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,680
That's why I can't wait till we 
start taking calls because the 

1559
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,680
back and forth with somebody, 
you know, who's trying to, you 

1560
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,360
know, either try to clown me or 
clown one of my points. 

1561
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,280
That's that's if you ask me, 
like, what do I miss about 

1562
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,760
conventional? 
That's the only thing, you know,

1563
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,400
I miss Sal, obviously I miss 
getting after it with Sal and 

1564
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,280
people in the building and all 
that stuff that that goes 

1565
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,560
without saying. 
But that's really the only thing

1566
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,440
about terrestrial radio that I 
miss being able to mix it up on 

1567
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:14,360
the phones. 
And when that comes, I mean, 

1568
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,920
we're going to the moon. 
So I appreciate you guys. 

1569
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,240
You know that. 
Thank you very much. 

1570
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,440
Get some more traction out 
there, spread the word. 

1571
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:22,880
BT Unleash catch you guys 
tomorrow at 10 right here. 

1572
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Bye, bye this. 
Is on leash, are you listening? 

1573
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:26,760
Can you hear me? 
This is on leash. 

1574
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,600
Are you listening?