1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,320 This is on leash. Are you listening? 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,240 Can you hear me? Hear me? 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,840 This is on leash. Are you listening? 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Can you hear me? Hear me? 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,320 This is on leash. Are you listening? 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Can you hear me? Hear me? 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,840 This is on leash. Are you listening? 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,040 Can you hear me hear? Me this is. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,680 On leash are. You listening? 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Can you? Hear me. 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,200 What's going on, everybody? BT unleashed with you. 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,680 We got a big one today. Yesterday was absolutely 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,120 phenomenal, man. I hope you guys enjoyed the 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,120 Michael Kay spot. I'm going to get to that. 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,480 I got a circle back to something that he said yesterday. 16 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:41,960 I'm going to actually play it for you, but couple of little 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,000 housekeeping notes here first up, so I'll be pretty busy today 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,200 there. J Rod coming up at 2:35. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Later on, let's get this up on the board. 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,400 This guy is absolutely hysterical. 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,720 I've become pretty good friends with him. 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Jimmy Fala, who is just an absolute trip and his journey is 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,760 amazing. He was a taxi cab driver for 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,720 about 10 years and I didn't know this unbeknownst to me because 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,640 he had me on the show for the Super Bowl. 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,560 And by the way, I pretty much nailed the exact score. 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,920 And I want you some money. But anyway, he was a big fan and 28 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,560 he used to listen to me, even going back to the 1050 days. 29 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,760 So we've gotten to know each other a bit. 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,480 Anytime he wants to get into some sports stuff, he he reaches 31 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,680 out. So he said, hey, you want to 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,360 come back on? I said, yeah, man, let's do it. 33 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,920 So we're going to do that today. 235 It's a national show. 34 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,720 There's A and obviously the audio component there component, 35 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,560 there's the visual component. So that is later on today, 2:35 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,680 Eastern, Fox across America, Jimmy Fallon, number one. 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Number two, and I cannot wait to get into this. 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,000 I'm going to drop this probably Sunday night around 6:00, right. 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,640 And when I tell you the amount of work and crunching of numbers 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,800 and recollection and talking to people because like I, I can't 41 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,840 mess this up, you know how much the Big East means to me. 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Well, this is going to drop on Sunday night, J Rod, I'm pumped 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,960 up. You know it. 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,640 My all time Big East team is going to drop Sunday. 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Some additional fresh content in addition to the live show. 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,160 And yeah, I mean, it, it is it, it is extensive. 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,720 I mean, I've got the five starters, I've got the seven 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,160 reserves, I've got the head coach. 49 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,560 I even went so far because I was leaving a lot of names out. 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,120 I'm like, I don't know about this. 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,440 I came up with A10 deep honorable mention list because 52 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,720 think about this guys, there's been so many different 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 iterations of the Big East. And the reason I want to drop 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,640 this on Sunday is obviously the regular season is going to wrap 55 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,600 up this weekend in the conference for all the 56 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,920 conferences. And then some of the conference 57 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,440 tourneys are already on the way to the Big East Center stage 58 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,040 next week at the Garden. Now, the way it worked out is 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,120 that what went down last night, St. 60 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,960 John's got a break. So if they win tomorrow in 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Newark against Seat hall, which is not going to be easy, very 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,640 quietly, Shaheen Holloway squad is looking like they're going to 63 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,920 get that four spot and avoid playing that first day. 64 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,760 Good for them. I like when the Pirates are 65 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,040 good. It's good for the it's good for 66 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,320 the area, it's good for the Big East. 67 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Anyway, if St. John's wins tomorrow, and again, 68 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,320 no guarantee that they do because they almost lost the 69 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,920 seat hall at the Garden about a month or so ago, then based on 70 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:12,280 what happened last night, St. John's will get the ones seed 71 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,560 and UConn will be the two seed based on the tiebreaker. 72 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,200 So that's coming up on Sunday. It will not be live. 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,760 I will drop it as different type of content. 74 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Now we can get that off the screen. 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,440 We'll get into the rest of the show. 76 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,960 But before we do that, Jay, so you guys know J Rod, you love J 77 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,640 Rod, He's awesome. He's doing a great job. 78 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:29,880 Look at the paint. What's up, dude? 79 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,360 Look at the where are you today? What do you make? 80 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,880 The grandparent, yeah, You know, we getting ready, getting ready 81 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,760 for the big fight. Booms. 82 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Yes, Sir. Also just little side cut. 83 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,440 Yeah, turns out Bada Booms is from the town over from me. 84 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,520 We. Hell out of here. 85 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Are you serious? In him and I've been texting we 86 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,720 grew up 10 minutes away from each other. 87 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,040 What ironic did you go? Not rival rivaling high schools, 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,680 but like our high schools definitely played each other in 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,440 schools and stuff. Like, I'm gonna have to. 90 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,280 I'm gonna have to try to find some old audio. 91 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Here's bada booms on the perimeter. 92 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Couple that dribbles into the paint. 93 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Poked away. Stolen by J Rod. 94 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,360 J Rod going back the other way. Bounce pass. 95 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:08,760 No. Look. 96 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,320 J Rod with the Dime and Bada Boom's team is called a time 97 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 out. They're down 37 to 12. 98 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Yeah, big time. But I got. 99 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,680 A question for you, hold on. So the the all time Big East 100 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,720 team you're a Syracuse guy as as many people know and those who 101 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,760 didn't just found that out and you are obviously a lot younger. 102 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 So there's been and you're no longer the Big East and I get 103 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,120 the decision for football clearly, but just, I mean part 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,680 of certainly Syracuse lost its soul when they left the Big East 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,480 and, and elements of the Big East did as well. 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Now I know you know your history 'cause you are basketball's your 107 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,400 favorite sport. I've got 5 starters, I've got 7 108 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,760 reserves and I've got 10 honorable mentions. 109 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,720 Tell me, I don't know if I'll, I'm not going to divulge much 110 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,880 here. That's coming on Sunday. 111 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Tell me how many Syracuse Orangemen you think or Orange, 112 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,000 whatever they call themselves these days what they are. 113 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 How many will be represented on my all Time Team for the the Big 114 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,440 East Conference? Currently I'm going to go 33 to 115 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,600 4:00. Maybe. 116 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,920 OK. All right. 117 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,880 I'm going to go, all right, Derek Coleman, that's a no 118 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,600 brainer in my mind. All right, Carmelo to me is a 119 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,320 toss up with you because I know, I know he's not. 120 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,840 You know he's not always in the best of graces. 121 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,520 But we leave, we, we leave bias at the door when we do this 122 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,200 stuff. We've we've, you know, we got to 123 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,480 do our job. Keep going and. 124 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Then the other two, I'd say, who could, you know, make the team? 125 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Earl the Pearl, Washington I. Mean not not Earl, not Earl. 126 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Dwayne, Dwayne. You meant you meant. 127 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,640 You meant Earl. You meant. 128 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,960 I know. I know what you meant. 129 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,080 I see, I see. I got you and then Dave Bing. 130 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Wow, now Dave Bing, that's. That's old school, I know. 131 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,640 That's why I think it might kind of contest with the list would 132 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,960 be my guess. But, you know, we'll see. 133 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,840 OK, pretty good guesses there. Again, I'm not going to divulge 134 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,080 much. The one thing that I will tell 135 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,120 you is that is Dave Bing, who was also the former mayor of 136 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,600 Detroit. I don't know if you knew that he 137 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,760 went on to yeah, Dave. Yes, Dave Bing went on to 138 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,480 politics. But when Dave was at, at 139 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Syracuse, remember they weren't in the Big East yet because the 140 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Big East was formed in it. It's all good that they were 141 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,800 formed in 79. And obviously Dave, I, I think 142 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Dave was in the 60s. I, I know he wasn't in the mid 143 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,600 70s. I'm pretty sure 60s somewhere 144 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,200 around there a long time ago. Anyway, you cut it. 145 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 The challenge for me was that there's been so many different 146 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,400 iterations. That's why I had to do an 147 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,920 honorable mention because you think about the early Big East 148 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,920 days like 79, like some of the charter teams like obviously St. 149 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,240 John's and Georgetown and you know, the pits and the 150 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Villanova's and the Boston colleges and teams like that. 151 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,320 But then later on you had like Miami and Virginia Tech and 152 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Louisville and Notre Dame and Marquette came in and all these 153 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,720 different again, different iterations. 154 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,840 It was a task, man. So I can't wait to drop this on 155 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,840 Sunday. I put in not, not that I'm 156 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,600 looking for a pat on the back, but you know how serious I take 157 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,960 my Saints, my St. John's hoop? 158 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,520 You know how serious I take my Big East conference is? 159 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,480 It's truly one of my favorite things ever in the history of 160 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,400 sports. And by the way, have you seen 161 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,880 it's old at this point, but you got to go back and see it. 162 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,160 If you haven't, have you seen the 30 for 30 requiem for a Big 163 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,080 East on ESPN? I don't believe I've seen it 164 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,440 yet. Oh dude, you got you have. 165 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,960 You absolutely have to see this. You must see it. 166 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 That is homework. So I gave you homework last 167 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,160 week. You came correct. 168 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,680 You did it. I told you you had to watch the 169 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Warriors movie, you know, get a little grit, get a little 70s in 170 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,520 in in Jay Rods life. And he did that like the good 171 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,440 student that he is now, you got to go back and you will not want 172 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,040 it to end like every it's the kind of thing, put it this way, 173 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,680 you know, when he just humming through channels like, you know, 174 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,360 for me, like there's no Yanks, no Mets, no Knicks, I'm not 175 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,600 working Johnny's, no games for the kids. 176 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Most importantly, nothing going on with the house. 177 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,880 And I'm just kind of, you know, randomly flipping through, all 178 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,360 right, there's Duke, I'll stick with Duke. 179 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,080 All right, there's Houston Cougars, I'll stick with them, 180 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,880 whatever it might be. And, you know, then all of a 181 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,160 sudden you'll see like a 3030 on one of the 9000 channels that 182 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,320 ESPN has. And when that comes on, I can't 183 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,560 turn the and I know every word. I can't turn the chat. 184 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,640 It's that good. So check it out. 185 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,040 You're going to and you're going to learn a lot. 186 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,880 It's really, really good. Done. 187 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,440 OK, so how good was Michael Kay yesterday? 188 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,040 I mean, the numbers are off the charts. 189 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,040 You guys loved it. And I thought that was about as 190 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,600 as raw. I I've never heard I I don't, 191 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,440 I've worked with Michael or used to work with Michael for a good 192 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,480 ten years. All right, He was at ESPN Radio 193 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,280 from day one, him and Don Don was the first voice and I'm 194 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,000 going to have Don on the show next week, by the way. 195 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,440 So Donnie was the first voice on 1050. 196 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Kay was doing the mid days. And then I came two years after 197 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,040 that in 2003. And then like Steven a came a 198 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,840 year after that with roughly a year. 199 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,200 So I've known Michael long time and, and Michael, and he'll even 200 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,400 said this on the show, like he's going to need a team of surgeons 201 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,200 to split open his his brain and find out what the hell is wrong 202 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,200 with him. I mean, he's brilliant and he's 203 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,000 terrific at his job, but he's out of his mind. 204 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Like, like all of us in this business doesn't eat ketchup. 205 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Like there's just certain things he doesn't do. 206 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,760 And I don't think I don't think that I've ever heard Michael 207 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,160 curse. Mike dropped a couple of curses 208 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,960 on the show. So as one of one of which came 209 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,000 from a story that he was telling about his dad, which was 210 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,760 absolutely hysterical being raised by a tough bronze dad 211 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,080 back in the day. Anyway, it was absolutely 212 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,240 phenomenal. It's a good hourish, you know, 213 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,560 55 minutes. So if you guys didn't check it 214 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,360 out, you want to check it out in its entirety, just go on the 215 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,720 channel here. It is really, really good. 216 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,720 One of the shorts got like 37,000 hits already on 217 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Instagram. It's listen, I'm not surprised 218 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,680 it's Michael K, but I I appreciate his time and it was 219 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:47,720 just such a candid conversation. And that is the goal here. 220 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,360 Among many goals, BT unleashed the show, the fam, the channel, 221 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,560 the new platform, the building of this. 222 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,200 You know, I'm not going to get people on and hey, what do you 223 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,720 think about this? Like you, you got to have a 224 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,360 conversation and you've got to have relationships. 225 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,360 So I'm just starting to to really, again, I don't mean this 226 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,040 in a, in a braggadocious kind of way, but I'm just starting to 227 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,960 tap into my Rolodex, which is very vast. 228 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,360 So whether it's guys I worked with on the radio and the old 229 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,000 radio wars and all that stuff, which you guys always enjoy, I 230 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,400 had to go to St. John's yesterday to record the 231 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,560 TV show with Rick. And he said, yeah, I'm 232 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:23,840 definitely going to come on the show. 233 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Now, the thing with that. And then I want to get into 234 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,280 today's show. And I want to start with 235 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,120 something that Kate said, I'm going to actually play it for 236 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,480 you. And then I'm going to react. 237 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,080 But the thing about Rick, I've got to find out logistically 238 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,760 what's best for him, because it's not about what's best for 239 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,640 me. He's got a bigger fish to fry. 240 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,720 You know, he's getting ready for the NCAA tournament, so I would 241 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,960 think that, you know, they they'll play on Friday night and 242 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,600 then they will not play Wednesday. 243 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Those would be the four bottom teams and then they'll play on 244 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Thursday. Either the one or the two seed, 245 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,640 probably the one if things work out well. 246 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,360 And and then it's just microwave scouting. 247 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,640 So I'm not going to bother him. Like once you find out on 248 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,720 Selection Sunday, who you playing, where you going? 249 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,080 I mean, it's all right, all right, we got this team from 250 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,880 this conference. They literally watch film all 251 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,680 day and all night because it is microwave scouting, as I said. 252 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,760 So I'll be traveling with the team. 253 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,080 So I'll bring you all the content from the 1st and the 2nd 254 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,040 rounds of whatever site we go to. 255 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,600 But I, I would think just based on the logistics and you know 256 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,400 what I, what I think Rick wants to do what I want. 257 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,800 I don't want to put him in a rough spot. 258 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,640 I would like to to to get Rick on Monday. 259 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Where? All right, we know where they're 260 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,680 going. We know who they're playing. 261 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:31,880 They either won the Big East tournament or did not. 262 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Here's the seating. We go from there. 263 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,800 All right, so yesterday we hit a million things with Kay again. 264 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,880 He was so fantastic. And one of the topics that I 265 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,320 want to start our show with this, you know what, what kind 266 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,440 of job security does Boone have? Is Boone on thin ice this year? 267 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Things don't go well if there's a quick bounce from the post 268 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,720 season. Is this it for Boone this year? 269 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,560 It could happen. I mean I I think it could happen 270 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,040 He has only one year left Hal doesn't like to pay people for 271 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,120 not working and I never thought he was going to be let go last 272 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,640 year. You know people, people on my 273 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,160 show. I don't know if it was like this 274 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,560 with you and Sal in order. They hate Cashman, they hate 275 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,960 Boone. And then Hal, yes, that's the 276 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,680 that's the order. That's universal. 277 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,440 And I I think the Hal criticism is ridiculous. 278 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Oh, he's cheap. He's not cheap. 279 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Oh, he doesn't want to win. He desperately wants to win. 280 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,840 He's just not his dad. That's a hard act to follow. 281 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 I think Boone's a good manager. I think it's tough to win. 282 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,800 I think, I think it's just really, really, really tough to 283 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,880 win. And he has sometimes he's had 284 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,360 imperfect teams. I think if you asked him which 285 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,200 one he takes the hardest, it would be last year, you know, 286 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,760 just sitting next. OK, so there you go. 287 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,800 And again, the entire interview is up on the channel. 288 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,560 Listen, at this point, guys, I'm I'm not going to convince you 289 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:49,320 one way or the other. And quite frankly, I'm not even 290 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,440 going to try to. I respect your opinions, you 291 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 know my opinion on Boone. And let let me also say this, 292 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,520 any friendship that I have with Aaron, which is pretty strong, 293 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,880 you guys know that anything that I say is going to be rooted in 294 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,280 reality. You know, everybody knows I love 295 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,800 the guy. Everybody knows I have great 296 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,640 profound respect for the human being, the man that Aaron Boone 297 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,600 is. Because I think when when you 298 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,200 look at you know, how he's comported himself as the Yankee 299 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,720 manager and, and really, you know, on a personal level, just 300 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,640 you know what he did for me and Sal coming out to Red Bank, NJ 301 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,000 from Connecticut when we did the first BT and Sal live show. 302 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,520 By the way, the second one is all over my social channels. 303 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,960 It's up there April 2nd in wanton Mulcahy's. 304 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,440 You got the ticket link. It's going to be great. 305 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,840 Carl Banks is come listen, we don't roll out the C listers 306 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,680 like Booney came out for the first one. 307 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,800 You know what happened with me and Sal and Carl Banks on WFAN. 308 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,320 So a full circle moment with Carl at Mulcahy's tickets out 309 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,120 there. Go check them out. 310 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,400 We already sold a bunch. So you guys want to jump in 311 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,200 soon. But I promise you, you either 312 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,720 choose to believe this or not That's fine. 313 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,000 I'm going to waste much time on this. 314 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,320 When I tell you how I judge him and what I perceived him to be 315 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,760 as a manager of the Yankees, it's rooted in my reality and 316 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,080 sensibility as a baseball fan, a baseball observer, not my 317 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,640 friendship with Aaron. So I just want to get that out 318 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,960 of the way. And I I know that there's still 319 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,160 many of you that won't believe it. 320 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,280 Do what you got to do. Believe what you want now the 321 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,240 the the run of Aaron as a Yankee manager, it's obviously been 322 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,480 very good. All right, seven of eight years 323 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,080 play offs. The one year he didn't make the 324 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,960 play offs. That's when Judge got hurt in LA 325 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,400 when he heard his foot running into the wall and compelled to 326 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,360 say those idiotic Dodger jerks. Didn't you know they didn't fix 327 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,080 the concrete slab that was hanging out from 1969 whenever 328 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,960 they built that stadium. Anyway, Boon to me with the 329 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,600 World Series appearance, couple of 100 win seasons, all the 330 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,680 stuff he's done right. When you look at the Yankees and 331 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,960 the reality is they have not won a they have not won a World 332 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Series since 2009. Now other things that Kay said 333 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,160 and and I agree with this. You know how is not cheap? 334 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,840 That's gotten hijacked. And it's a real, I think a real 335 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,920 unfair misrepresentation of how I think the difference, and this 336 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,480 is a very easy one to identify, the difference between Hal and 337 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,040 George is that winning was oxygen for George. 338 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 If George didn't win, George couldn't breathe. 339 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,720 And in a lot of ways, sometimes he tripped all over himself 340 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,800 trying to figure out a way to win, which is why he was at 341 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,000 times a colossal pain in the ass, which is something that is 342 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,440 omitted from the George Steinbrenner legacy 343 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,280 conversation. Because when he got suspended, 344 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,280 when he got banned from baseball for a couple of years, that's 345 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,880 when the Yankees dynasty was built. 346 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Like he was pushed out stick Michael took over. 347 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,880 We know the story. I don't need to reset it. 348 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,880 I was thrilled that he got banished. 349 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Like, you know, let's not overly romanticize what George was now 350 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,680 his persona, his personality, his affinity for the Yankees and 351 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,400 that almost that militaristic presentation. 352 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Jay Rod, I didn't keep that up. I'll get to it. 353 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,480 That that that, you know, when it all cost him just what he 354 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,680 projected. It's very different than Hal. 355 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,800 And and that shouldn't be surprising. 356 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,160 I mean, if you think about the way George ran in the Yankees, 357 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,120 how do you think George ran the house? 358 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,120 I mean, his son probably terrified to say anything to 359 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,480 him. So he's got a very sedate, 360 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,160 softer presentation than George. But to say that how does it want 361 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,280 to win is patently offensive and inherently false and unfair. 362 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Now, the difference is, as I said, George looked at, you 363 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,840 know, winning that that was his oxygen. 364 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 And when he didn't win, he started panting. 365 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,960 And then he's like, I got, I got to get this guy. 366 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,040 I got to fire that guy. I got to do this. 367 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,840 I got to fire this GM. And that was him searching for 368 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,680 more oxygen in his lungs because he was pursuing winning at all 369 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,880 costs. That's not how that's never 370 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,080 going to be, Hal. And you know, if we keep 371 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,960 complaining about this, we're wasting everybody's time because 372 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,280 Michael nailed it. Now, I agree with a lot of the 373 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,000 things that Michael said, not everything, but he absolutely 374 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,840 nailed it when he said, you know, I don't know what you and 375 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Sal went through, but the calls that he gets and and the I guess 376 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,800 the you know, the the narrative on the Yankees right now, it's 377 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,040 when you look at the criticisms, it's Cashman one, it's Boon 2 378 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,800 and it's Hal 3. I would agree. 379 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,359 And you know this, I mean Brian Cash, but is not earn the right 380 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,839 all that crazy stuff from the fan. 381 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,640 Brian Cashman to me, the last 10 years or so has been much more 382 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,640 of a problem than the answer. Just talking about baseball. 383 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,680 I like the guy, but he's been worse than he's been great 384 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,520 because when you have that amount of money and you spend 385 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,760 that amount of money, this is going to be a correlation of 386 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,800 winning to some extent. And you know, there's been many 387 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,480 things with the Yankees that have been broken, whether it's 388 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,000 the development of young players or hugging the prospects or not 389 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,960 giving them runway to play like Dominguez probably not going to 390 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,200 make the team. You know, Michael said that 391 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,000 yesterday as well. And I firmly. 392 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,680 But Jones has no chance to make the team and I don't think 393 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Dominguez is making the team, which drives me nuts. 394 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,000 All right. And then, you know, even years 395 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,800 before that they had no left-handed hitters, which is 396 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,240 unfathomably nuts with a 314 foot porch in right field. 397 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,320 And then now they seemingly basically have no right-handed 398 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,600 hitter. So there's just always something 399 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,200 a little off with the Yankees lately and that's Cashman. 400 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,640 But if you look at and answer me honestly here, if you're not a 401 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,400 Boon fan, and that's fine or even a Boon believer, I don't 402 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,440 know anybody that dislikes Aaron because he's such a good guy. 403 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,120 But you can criticize things about his managerial style. 404 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,280 I get that. I mean, he he colossally bombed 405 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,920 game one of the World Series Cortez. 406 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,520 That was ridiculous. And I said it the next day on 407 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,640 the fan and I said it to Aaron. He's like, all right, that's 408 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,160 your opinion. He can't stand. 409 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,400 I will get texts and sad will as well when we're talking about 410 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,040 Trent Grisham and he's not a lead off hitter for a team 411 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,840 that's supposed to win a World Series or be in the hunt for a 412 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,360 World Series. He's not that kind of player. 413 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560 But yet they keep telling us that he's the best fit for a 414 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,480 lead off hitter. I don't think he is. 415 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,400 Now that's more of a Cashman thing because you can only write 416 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,360 out the lineup based on what you're giving anyway. 417 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,120 I do think the pecking order should be more and Michael said 418 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,640 Cashman Boone, how I actually think it's Cashman how Boone 419 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,840 because when you look at the, there's two aspects to winning, 420 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,840 right? There's the construction of a 421 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,600 team, and then there's the application and the managerial 422 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,040 style of the roster that you're given. 423 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:19,360 You tell me who's more culpable. Has Brian Cashman given Aaron 424 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,760 Boone truly a world championship roster? 425 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,480 And the answer is no. And the other thing that I've 426 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,520 said, so I'm going to exonerate Boone on on a lot of levels 427 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,400 there. And the other thing too, guys, 428 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,960 and I think you really have to understand this. 429 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 If you are pining and yelling and screaming and just you can't 430 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,200 wait to get rid of Aaron Boone. Let me ask you something. 431 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Let's say the Yankees go, I don't know, I think they're 432 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,400 about a 92 win team right now, something like that. 433 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,800 Let's say the Yankees. Now, I do think there's a lot of 434 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,480 upside with the pitching staff, you know that. 435 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Let's say the Yankees win. That's with the difference 93 436 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,880 games and you know, say if they lose in the first round, maybe 437 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,240 they don't win the division and I don't think 93 would be enough 438 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,320 to win it. They don't win the division. 439 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,760 They get bumped in the first round or they win the first 440 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,000 round like last year and they look overmatched and or sloppy 441 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,440 or or whatever in the next round they get bounced. 442 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,560 Well, you just heard me ask Michael, did you think that this 443 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,080 would be the end for Boone and. Yeah, I think that there's a 444 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,360 real chance that that's true. And on a lot of levels, again, 445 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:23,160 personal relationship aside, you don't think that I can 446 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,960 understand that? Of course I could and and I do. 447 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:30,160 But what I push back on understand if you want Boone 448 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,520 gone, what do you think the Yankees are going to do whenever 449 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,120 they have? I mean, Aaron Boone's not going 450 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,360 to coach for 100 more years. I mean, he's not going to manage 451 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,240 for 100 more years. So whenever they move on from 452 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,120 boom, do you think that they're going to go outside the 453 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:47,400 organization and find that old school ass kicker that every 454 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,680 Yankee fan wants, which by the way doesn't really exist 455 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,600 anymore? I mean, there's a dearth of 456 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,040 those type of man who who does that anymore really? 457 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,840 I mean, it's analytically driven for the most part. 458 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,800 Now, Boone's pushed back on that. 459 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,760 He says, he's told me and he's told you that the Yankees are 460 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,720 really the least analytically reliant team in the American 461 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,960 League East. And I believe him. 462 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,400 You know why I believe him? Because numbers are irrefutable. 463 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,640 And you can check that stuff out and, and he's not lying, all 464 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,680 right? But whenever they move on from 465 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Aaron Boone, they're going to go in the organization. 466 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,760 This is my opinion and they're going to elevate somebody that's 467 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760 already there. All right. 468 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Now, if you're if the root of your your pushback with the 469 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Yankees is that they need a different philosophy, which I 470 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,920 get to an extent, I don't think you nuts to think that. 471 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,800 Or it's just time for a new voice or you want somebody who's 472 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,400 more old school and is going to light up the players again, 473 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 which by the way, doesn't really happen anymore. 474 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,360 Hate to break it to you, but if you think that they're going to 475 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,440 fire Boone or move on from Aaron, whatever they do, and try 476 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,480 to find that guy with a different team, there's nobody 477 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,360 out there like that. Who who was the guy? 478 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240 I mean, we all had this perception in our minds like 479 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Billy Martin. Billy Martin managed 3-4 decades 480 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,440 ago, guys, you got to put that out of your head. 481 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,960 Or Jim Leland. I mean, Jim Leland's been out of 482 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,480 the game for a long time. Tony Larousse was very much a 483 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,320 numbers guy as well. Different personalities. 484 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Well, great manager, great tactician, but but those guys 485 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:25,200 are, I mean, it's just, it's, it's a, it's a dying ear. 486 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,760 It's a dead ear. It's not a dying ear. 487 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320 It's a dead era. The fact to me, one of the 488 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,400 things that I love about Boone is that I think that he is so 489 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,480 equipped because he shows it all the time to deal with the 490 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,040 bullshit that comes with being the manager of the Yankees. 491 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Like, where are there flare ups? Like think about, you know, 492 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,840 again, this, even though I said it was a million years ago, 493 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:52,560 think about all the nonsense. And the newspapers covered teams 494 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,080 differently back then, really back then with Billy Martin and 495 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,360 before that, the newspapers were the radio. 496 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,760 And now what's becoming, you know, different types of content 497 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,880 as as conventional radio is beginning to change. 498 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,160 I don't want to say die off. I'm not trying to disrespect it. 499 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:08,880 So I've got love for terrestrial radio. 500 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960 I always will. But it doesn't have the same 501 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,160 cachet and the same juice at once that it just doesn't 502 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,360 because there's a lot of outlets out there and you look at these 503 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,560 podcasts and you look at these shows, half of these shows are 504 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,160 the host of former athletes. You know what I mean? 505 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000 So the entire game has changed, right? 506 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,840 And you know, back then with a Martin and a Reggie fight, or, 507 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,560 you know, a Munson and a a Munson and a Reggie issue, or 508 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,960 when Goose had fights with, I think that was Cliff Johnson in 509 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,360 the shower. Or, you know, the Mets and the 510 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440 anarchy of the great 86 Mets team. 511 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,880 You know, they really later on they couldn't stand each other 512 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600 when they had the fist fight with Keith and Darrell. 513 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,600 I think that was 80, 88 maybe or 8 and maybe 89. 514 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,680 I think it was after they lost to the Dodgers on picture day. 515 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,160 They start throwing punches. Either way, it was covered 516 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,360 differently by the newspapers and the energy. 517 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,760 Like the manager really had to deal with a lot of stuff. 518 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,960 Now, the manager still has to do with a lot of stuff, but because 519 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000 you speak to the media before the game, you speak to the media 520 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,280 after the game, you speak to the media twice a day. 521 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,000 And if you're Aaron Boone, whether it's jumping on WFN with 522 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,000 me and Sal or jumping on here, which he will on BT Unleashed or 523 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:33,600 John Boy, and I know, I think he's the channel. 524 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,320 I really think that he has the perfect demeanor for 2026. 525 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,520 Now, if you have this antiquated mindset of what, especially what 526 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,440 a Yankee manager should be, I, I don't, I don't know what to tell 527 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,040 you. I really can't help you. 528 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,360 It's not going to go backwards, guys. 529 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,320 It's only going to evolve and it's going to become a little 530 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,960 bit more sterile and a little bit more benign and a little bit 531 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,600 more homogenized. Like, I mean, I, you know, if 532 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,640 you don't know that by now, I, I just, you just never going to 533 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,000 know it if you don't notice this, that the entire landscape 534 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,200 has changed. What I want to say the power, 535 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,360 well, maybe I will say a little bit of the power, some of the 536 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,640 power that the managers have, it's been diminished a little 537 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,600 bit because it's more shared in terms of the analytical input, 538 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,320 which is just the reality of the game. 539 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,040 You can push back on it, but it is what it is. 540 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,720 And you know, let's, let's just say you can keep that up. 541 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,160 I'm going to start reading some of these, I promise. 542 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,160 Let's just say, all right, I've had some issues with Jazz 543 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Chisholm, right? And he's wildly talented. 544 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,840 I don't like the fact that he said he's going for 5050 because 545 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,480 I wonder when you're going for 50 bombs what you're sacrificing 546 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,800 in terms of contact contact and strikeout rate. 547 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,360 But whatever, we'll see. And I don't think there's any 548 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,920 way the Yankees give him a long term contract. 549 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,000 I'm on the record with that. But as wildly talented as he is, 550 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,600 he can he's the best athlete. Even Kay said it. 551 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,480 I agree. Best athlete on the team. 552 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Runs like the wind. Easy power. 553 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Just that loose limbed, long explosive body that every scout 554 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,080 looks for. Got a good arms, got it all 555 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 right. But he is a little Spacey on 556 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,160 occasion, whether it's the World Series, you know, I'm not paying 557 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,520 attention with the balls trickling through the infield or 558 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,360 other moments. If that was Billy Martin, he 559 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,080 would have had, he would have eviscerate. 560 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,360 He may have pulled him off the field. 561 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,320 He would have eviscerated him the moment Jazz got to the top 562 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,920 step of the dugout. Do you think that anybody's 563 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 going to do that nowadays? Do you really think that it it's 564 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,360 just an, it's an unexpected reality. 565 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Stop waiting for it. So mainly the pushback, because 566 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,680 you can't say that Aaron Boone doesn't win enough. 567 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,160 You can't sit outside of the World Series, which is more of a 568 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:44,120 Cashman thing to, in my opinion. You can't say that it's a sloppy 569 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,560 clubhouse and there's leaks everywhere because it's 570 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,600 incredibly buttoned up and professional. 571 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,680 And I don't even think I really believe this. 572 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,520 And this is one of the main reasons why I support Boone. 573 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,440 Friendship aside, I don't look at any of these Yankee teams and 574 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,440 say, wow, the Yankees underachieved. 575 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,880 They were supposed to. They were by far the best team 576 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,360 in baseball. What the hell happened? 577 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,160 Like, imagine the 98 Yankees lost the World Series instead 578 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,120 of, you know, instead of just routing everybody that now 579 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,080 that's an underachievement because it would not have been 580 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,200 congruent with their regular season. 581 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760 You know, it's obvious. There's a reason why the Yankees 582 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,560 have these June, late, middle of the season swoons, start hot, go 583 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,720 down, come back up, win some playoff games and get bounced 584 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,560 because the roster's not great. Because you got guys like 585 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,480 Stanton who's still here, who can't run, can't throw, can't 586 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 field. You got to keep ADH spot open 587 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,520 for them. You know, you didn't really know 588 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,680 what to do in the outfield because how how didn't want to 589 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,320 spend on Harper or Machado or those guys. 590 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,560 So, yeah, I guess we got to bring back Grisham. 591 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,400 I mean, that's not Boone's fault. 592 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,760 It's just not. All right. 593 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000 Robert Huertas. What up, Rob? 594 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,280 How you doing, buddy? Great show with Kay. 595 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,720 One of my favorite baseball people was Bobby Mercer, who I 596 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240 met with Rick Cerrone back in the 80s by City Hall. 597 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Has really missed. Bobby Mercer was a great guy. 598 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,080 I have a story, Dad. I was talking to my dad 599 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720 yesterday coming back from St. John's, right? 600 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,880 That's when I really get to catch up with dad cuz. 601 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,160 And by the way, it took me two hours. 602 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,120 I missed baseball practice yesterday. 603 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,120 I don't know what the hell was going on. 604 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,280 And I mean, thank God we, we have two other great coaches, 605 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,840 but I, I don't like missing practice. 606 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,880 I was in the car for two hours and 9 minutes coming back from 607 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Queens trying to get back to New Jersey. 608 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,880 And it's usually not that it's like an hour and an hour. 609 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Brutal. So anyway, I always catch up 610 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,560 with my dad during the car rides and Bobby Mercer, who, as we 611 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,640 know, and he and he was listening to the K interview and 612 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,480 he told me a story about one of his best friends growing up in 613 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,200 Brooklyn. And I knew I knew about this, 614 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,680 but not to this extent. Frankie Devivo, right, 615 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,560 left-handed pitcher stud. He actually the way he got 616 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,760 signed by the Yankees. He was in the military for a 617 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,000 couple years, got signed by the Yankees. 618 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,120 They, he got I, I think it was two days after he got out of the 619 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,960 military, my dad was telling me, Frankie knocks on my dad's door. 620 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,240 My dad's still living with his parents. 621 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,520 They're young. He says, hey, I got to try out. 622 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000 True story, but I'm going to have my dad come on to tell you 623 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720 the whole story. This is a short version. 624 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,240 He knocks on his door. Hey, Red, My dad's nickname was 625 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840 Red back in the days. Got like that, that Irish, they 626 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,560 call him Red, right? Yo, Red. 627 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960 I got to try out tomorrow at Rikers Island for the Yankees. 628 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,040 Rikers Island. So back then, you know, a lot of 629 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,280 the big jails, you know big, they had great baseball teams. 630 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,400 So they bring Frankie out to Rikers Island to a pitch against 631 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640 their team. One of the guys was in the major 632 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,600 leagues and then he got hung up and whatever he got hung up 633 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440 with, he went to jail and he threw like 5 inning, struck out 634 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,160 eight. And my dad was there was one of 635 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920 his best friends. Right after the right after the 636 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,040 performance. The Yankee scout has Frankie 637 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,680 sign like 5 contracts because back then, like you, you would 638 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,840 sign like it was deep, D level, deep, deep like D Bowl. 639 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,640 Like that was actually what it was called D Bowl before you get 640 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,160 to like a ball and rookie and all that stuff. 641 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,320 So he, you know, there's no phones back then obviously. 642 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,080 So Frankie's writing to my dad couple times when he's in the 643 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,760 minors. He was out like Johnston City, 644 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,960 Tennessee and then he was up I think in Oneonta and he was 645 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,080 just, he would have made the team. 646 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,360 He would have. He would have been a pro, but he 647 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,240 blew out his arm again. Long story short, he writes one 648 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,080 of the letters to my dad. He goes. 649 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,520 Yeah, He goes, Yeah, I forget exactly what he wrote. 650 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,080 He goes, there's this one dude here. 651 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,760 He's the only guy better than me. 652 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440 It was Bobby Mercer. How sick is that? 653 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,920 How great is that? I mean, the element. 654 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,480 And that's the old school story. I'm going again. 655 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Dad's got to figure out how to use this thing. 656 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Hopefully, Mom could help him out as well. 657 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Because if J Rod sends my dad a stream yard link, there's no 658 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,560 chance in hell we're getting my dad on the show. 659 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,680 So we we got to make sure we get this the right way. 660 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,440 But what a great story, riveting stuff. 661 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,000 A tryout at Rikers. I could you imagine tomorrow 662 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,640 there's a tweet that no the Yankees or the Mets sign so and 663 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,480 so after a three-year run in the military after he struck out 664 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,240 eight batters in five innings against Rikers Islands team that 665 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,760 you know, the All Star team at Rikers. 666 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560 My God, that's that is absolutely incredible stuff 667 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,000 there. So NYC to DJ All right, all 668 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400 right, listen, this is fair. I'm not going to explode over 669 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240 this. I I can't change opinions and 670 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,000 and it is what it is and and and I'm fine with it. 671 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,600 But love you BT but your Boone takes her biased and you know 672 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,720 it. You can't play both sides here, 673 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,600 all right, That's why I preface everything with, you know, our 674 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280 friendship. But I I do get said I crushed 675 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,600 him. I don't know. 676 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600 I'm sure unless they just deleted me and Sal from the WFAN 677 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,720 library library, which I don't think that they did. 678 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,200 You know, you can go and find our show the day after the World 679 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Series, when I absolutely crushed Boone for going to 680 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,440 Cortez. It was it was a horrendous move. 681 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,360 Now it's easy to deduce from that. 682 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,040 Wow, costing Yankees the World Series. 683 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120 I don't. I mean, it could have, I don't 684 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,320 think so, because I just think the Dodgers were a lot better. 685 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,560 They caught the ball better if they ran the bases better, if 686 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360 they had more better players period. 687 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,120 You know, if Judge in center field and Garrett Cole and 688 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Rizzlewood first base and you know, Jazz in the infield and 689 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840 Volpe and Jazz at 3rd. I, I know, I know what happened. 690 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,120 But if you think that guys, there's really nothing that I 691 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,320 can say to try to change your mind. 692 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,600 So I'm not going to try. All I could do is tell you and, 693 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,760 and be my authentic self. And one thing that I've always 694 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,120 taken great pride in doing this is that I'm always about, you 695 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440 know, I'm not a journalist. I mean, I'm, I'm a content 696 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,840 creator. And before I was creating 697 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,640 content here, you know, I was a voice, a passionate voice on the 698 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,960 radio that, you know, you always knew where I stood, didn't pull 699 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,920 any punches. And I never played favorites. 700 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560 I mean when I was covering the Knicks and that was a tough 701 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880 dance, when I was covering the Knicks doing the pre and the 702 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,520 post game show for about 6 years back in the day, Isaiah years, 703 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200 whatever halftime show, radio, TV stuff, you don't think I was 704 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,480 burying the Knicks and I was. If you listen to me on 10:50, 705 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,720 you know that I was so and I was friends with Isaiah. 706 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240 I liked Isaiah Thomas a lot. I think he was a really good 707 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,800 dude. You got to do your job. 708 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,720 And if you don't think that I can separate the two, I respect 709 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680 that I disagree. But I'm not going to fight City 710 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,240 Hall trying to get you to change your opinion. 711 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,520 That's fine. At some point, yeah, at some 712 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,960 point, you need another voice of the room here. 713 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,920 It's been a decade, and Boone can't get him over the hump. 714 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,480 He had his opportunity. That's fair. 715 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,400 That's why I asked Michael K the question. 716 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,400 You know, I asked Michael. If things don't go well this 717 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520 year, is, is this the end for Boone? 718 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,720 And I believe that it will be. And I would believe that at 719 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,320 that. And I will say at that point, 720 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720 Aaron Boone had a long enough run. 721 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040 Now, this is where you're going to think that I'm parsing words. 722 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,720 But I'd be OK with the I want to see what they hire. 723 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,160 All right? But I just don't think that he 724 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,600 was ever given a championship roster. 725 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800 I just don't. And that goes into my feeling 726 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,680 about never really underachieving and never like 727 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,840 woefully or radically falling short of what I expected the 728 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Yankees to be based on pre season projections and then how 729 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,320 they finished up the year. Like if I'm sitting here for 9 730 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600 years saying, oh, the Yanks gonna, which I never did. 731 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,040 I'm a, I'm a realist with the Yankees. 732 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,120 Like I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not a Yankee fanboy. 733 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,080 I'm just not, I want them to win. 734 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,480 Everybody knows I'm a Yankee fan, but you know, I'm a realist 735 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,840 here and I I don't think the Yankees are a World Series team 736 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,880 right now. The one asterisk, they're the 737 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,880 one caveat would be what I think their pitching staff could grow 738 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,040 into. That excites me for sure. 739 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,400 But the Yankees gonna have a rough time winning a lot of 740 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,159 games early. I mean, unless Aaron Judge 741 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,320 carries them or Grisham gets off to the start that he did a year 742 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,679 ago or whatever they do offensively. 743 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,560 I mean, you're rolling out basically 60% of the time. 744 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:37,840 Couple of guys taking the baseball every fifth day. 745 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,639 Good luck. I mean, I'm not even sure the 746 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,719 bullpens that great. There are some young arms that I 747 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,320 love, but you still got to see it come to fruition at this 748 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560 level. So I think navigating the first 749 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,719 two months of the season, like if the Yankees are 18 and 17, I 750 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,440 mean, is that a boom thing or is that because they don't have 751 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Roldan and they don't have Gary Cole yet? 752 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,360 Or you know, Louis Hill isn't what I know. 753 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,840 He hit 97 1/2 on the gun yesterday, which was good. 754 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,280 The the Velos coming back a little bit for heel. 755 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,400 I don't, I don't love heel. I don't I don't trust heel, but 756 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,520 I'm still optimistic. I I guess I'm hopeful, but I'm, 757 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,400 I'm not as bullish on Louis Hill as some as you. 758 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,880 Some of you are. I like will Warren, but he's a 759 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,120 young kid. You know, he's going to be 760 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,200 pitching a lot. I I love Cam Schlittler Season 761 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,800 2. You know, do you believe in a 762 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040 sophomore jinx? I don't necessarily believe in 763 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,880 that because I think there's ways to work around it by doing 764 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640 your homework and making the adjustments that the league is 765 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,160 about to make to you and on you, you know, the so almost 766 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,160 preemptively having those adjustments ready based on the 767 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,600 expectation of what you put on tape last year and what the rest 768 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,400 of the league's gonna try to do. So I that's just how I feel. 769 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,600 Yeah. I'm sorry about that. 770 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640 You know, I'm, you know, I mean, I, I don't this notion that 771 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,440 Aaron Boone is a bad manager is honestly a crock of shit. 772 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,440 It really is. I don't think it's with 773 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,560 justification. I don't think it's accurate. 774 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,200 Now also, Aaron Boone or anybody does not deserve a job for life. 775 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,800 Boone knows it. I know it. 776 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,200 He said it, I said it. So as long as I say that, I 777 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,880 don't see how I'm saying it both ways or having it both ways as 778 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,560 as that last text implied, I don't really say that. 779 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,520 I don't see that BT your thoughts on Mark DeRosa mark 780 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,440 ever being considered for the for Boone's job? 781 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Coach Mike from great kills Y'all Mike, what's up, Mike? 782 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200 You never got back to me. I thought there was something. 783 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,360 I think you have my number. I know we DMI thought I gave you 784 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,000 my phone number. You asked me, if I'm not 785 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,560 mistaken, to maybe go out there and speak to the Staten Island 786 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,040 Little. It's a great, it is a great old 787 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,320 school. I love it. 788 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,000 To me, it's like, not that I like Fenway. 789 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 I mean, I love Fenway, but I don't, I don't like the Red Sox. 790 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600 To me, it's like a little Fenway Park or or a little Wriggly 791 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,960 Field. Great kills where my son's at 792 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,200 all the time is. It's right in the middle of a 793 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,120 neighborhood. They got the best concession 794 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,400 stand out. There's no doubt. 795 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,640 So, so hit me up if that's still in play there to come and speak 796 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,000 to the kids. You know that I that I would be 797 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,880 up for that if I can make it fit myself. 798 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,440 I know the season's starting, so maybe that window passed 799 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:11,120 already, but I love Derosa. Derosa was actually in play I 800 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,880 believe. When they right when they no, 801 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,240 not for, but was it the Mets job or was it when they hired Boone? 802 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:18,360 It may have been when they hired Boone. 803 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,920 I think Mark DeRosa is phenomenal. 804 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,240 I love that he's managing Team USAI. 805 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,880 Love him on MLB Network. He's a New Jersey Bergen 806 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,120 Catholic. I'm pretty sure it was Bergen. 807 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,760 It was a Catholic school. It wasn't Seton Hall Prep and 808 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,160 it's not Dale Barton and it's not DePaul. 809 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,960 It's not, I'm almost positive that it's Bergen Catholic, you 810 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,720 know, play football, play to Penn was a great football 811 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:40,800 player. Yeah. 812 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,520 He's just, he's a, he's a dude, right? 813 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160 I love him and I love when he talks hitting. 814 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,240 I could watch him on that screen on TV, you know, with either 815 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,360 Sean Casey or Ripken or whomever's up there. 816 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,800 Harold Reynolds. They do a phenomenal. 817 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,360 I, I also geek out to that stuff, like I love that stuff. 818 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,840 His approach to hitting is phenomenal and I think his 819 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,840 presentation is great. He's a local dude who knows how 820 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,840 to deal with people. So I don't think he'd be 821 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,840 overwhelmed by the media. I don't know. 822 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,760 He wouldn't be overwhelmed. I think he'd be great with the 823 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,880 media and I, I just don't know how much he wants to manage. 824 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,960 I really don't. I think he said I'd have to 825 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,880 double because I, I asked him this. 826 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,040 Sam and I did a couple of shows at, at MLB Network. 827 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,360 We did it twice to kick off the the start of the baseball 828 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,360 season. And it was also, I remember the 829 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,480 first one. Sal always laughs. 830 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,400 He's like, it's funny. You guys think that Sal's nuts, 831 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,640 right? He's really not like, I don't 832 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,600 want to say that I'm nuts. It's it's kind of crazy. 833 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,080 But like he, he is a little nuts on the air, I guess, and so am 834 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,200 I. But he always, he's like, dude, 835 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,720 he's like, I don't know. I don't, I'd rather him say it. 836 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:58,080 But like, I just walk in somewhere and I just make things 837 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,920 happen. And he's a little bit more in 838 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,480 the cut, kind of like laying in the weeds. 839 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,120 Like when we did the show at MLB Network, I watch it on on TV all 840 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,200 the time. And they've got that little tiny 841 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560 stadium, Jackie Robinson Stadium, right? 842 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,080 Studio 42. And we go, there's a couple of 843 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,320 years ago, me, Sam and Hop. We get there nice and early and 844 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,560 I'm like, look at that. They've got dugouts, They got 845 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,720 helmets with all the teams. They got real bats. 846 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,840 They got buckets of Wiffle balls and and Wiffle bats. 847 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,880 I'm like, let's go, let's play. He's like, I don't know. 848 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,280 I'm like I'm I'm hitting. I mean, hopefully somebody's 849 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,280 going to throw to me. I'm taking BP and and Harold 850 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,320 Reynolds wound up coming in and we had Harold on the air and 851 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Derosa and he was throwing me BP and I was just. 852 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,760 I mean, it's a wiffle ball. He's kind of floating in there 853 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,000 tagging it all over the yard. Absolutely awesome. 854 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,920 But Sal always laughs at that. He's like you just not, you're 855 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,360 not shy at all. Like to to ask for something or 856 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,760 want something. Yeah, you know that that's 857 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,120 that's kind of the way I am. So we had the Rosa on and I 858 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,440 think that he said that he lives in Atlanta. 859 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,000 I believe he told us that because the sun's a really good 860 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,600 player doing the club baseball scene. 861 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,920 I think I think more coaches them. 862 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,280 So I, I, I don't know where he is in life and I'm certainly not 863 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,920 looking to get rid of Aaron Boone, but I think at some point 864 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,280 I think somebody's going to give the Rose a job if he wants it. 865 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000 But that's why I preface all that with the Sun and 866 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,640 everything. Like to be a base, I need to do 867 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,880 anything in pro sports. I give you a football coach, 868 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,400 man. It's all it's it's just all 869 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,640 year, the combine, the draft, the OTAs through the season, the 870 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,000 grind, you know, same if you're GM, you never stop. 871 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,800 You might get a month off to chill for a minute. 872 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,520 You know, baseball, you're gone April through, if you're lucky, 873 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,640 late October, early November. I mean, forget about April, 874 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160 middle of February because I remember, you know, talking to 875 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,440 Boonie and, and this was, this was early February and he's 876 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,560 like, yeah, I'm going down to Tampa in like two or three days 877 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,680 like April 3rd to set up and organizational meetings and all 878 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,880 that stuff. It's basically a 9 or 10 month a 879 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,720 year job. Now, Aaron's kids are older, you 880 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,960 know it, it's a lifestyle. You're always traveling, you're 881 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,680 always moving, you're always doing that stuff. 882 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,160 You know, I don't know if it's for everybody, but, you know, 883 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,240 whether it's here or elsewhere, to me, the Rosa would be a an 884 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,480 absolutely phenomenal choice and he's a great baseball man. 885 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,360 I really do. Let me get at withdrew. 886 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,040 Why is that not popping up? There we go. 887 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,000 Cashman's essentially A Steinbrenner. 888 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,560 I just don't see him being jettisoned ever. 889 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,440 I agree with that. And that's a big problem. 890 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880 Yeah, I do agree with that. So I mean that when there's a 891 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,680 level of comfort, guy, Jay, I didn't get that off, but I think 892 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,160 we clicked on at the same time. Thank you. 893 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,640 When there's such a level of comfort, even guys, I got news 894 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,840 for you, even like on the radio. Let me give you a little hint or 895 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,880 on TV when people have, you know, multi multi long term 896 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,120 contracts and be kind of comfortable. 897 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,720 That grind goes away for for some, not for everybody. 898 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,720 And I always use I always use this as you know, me and Sal 899 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,520 both love Rocky. We, I always use the Rocky 900 00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,400 analogy, like think about Rocky when he's trying to come up. 901 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,360 He's fighting it like in the, in the Catholic Church in the like 902 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,600 Friday nights against the, you know, a bunch of meatheads and, 903 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,000 you know, banging back Marlboros. 904 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520 And, you know, he's hanging out with loan sharks and mafia guys 905 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,840 and he's wearing the leather jacket and he's just scrapping 906 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,240 and scraping that is desperate to get out of his personal hell. 907 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,720 I mean, otherwise, I remember his apartment with buckets. 908 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,920 It was, it was not exactly a nice studio on the Upper West 909 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,520 Side overlooking Central Park. You know, that was early Rocky, 910 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,480 you know, fighting, grinding Mickey. 911 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 And then Rocky made a few bucks. And then Rocky got the 912 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040 motorcycle. And then Rocky got the mansion. 913 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,600 And then Rocky got his face kicked in by Clover. 914 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,120 Why? Because Rocky lost his edge. 915 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,760 And that's the genesis of of Eye of the Tiger. 916 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,000 Weird. Oh my God, I could talk. 917 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,240 I could watch Rocky all day. I could talk about Rocky all 918 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,520 day. And and Rocky, you know, I 919 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,440 remember when he was training for the first club or Lang fight 920 00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,880 and Mickey's like, what are we doing here? 921 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,160 Like they got balloons and they he's training publicly and they 922 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,600 got like the violinist, you know, doing the music, the Rocky 923 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,840 music and he's taking pictures and Adrian gets a little pissed 924 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,040 off because he gets a Peck on the cheek from some hottie. 925 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,800 He's not working hard because he got to, he already, everything 926 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,560 that he fought for got to, you know, and then when it was taken 927 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,760 away, he was able to dig back in and get there. 928 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,000 And you either have that mentality or you don't. 929 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,240 And I think I was like, boom. I don't think he's ever lost 930 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:30,680 that. So you know that that's a, 931 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,680 that's a, that's just basically my way of incorporating Rocky 932 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,480 into any conversation. J Rod, what's going on, buddy? 933 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,360 How you feeling today? You all right there, buddy? 934 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:39,680 What's up? What's up? 935 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,960 Feeling great, Feeling good. Speaking of Rocky, right behind 936 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,560 you, the boxy. I know I mentioned that before. 937 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,760 It's good. Who is that? 938 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,880 Is that just a random? Yeah, I think it's just a random 939 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,520 print like based on. I don't think it's a real 940 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,560 painting. Yeah, it can't be because 941 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,640 there's 2 white guys fighting. I mean if let's be honest, if 942 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,840 you got 2 white guys boxing, it's probably not the most 943 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,480 interesting boxing. That no, it's 1920s when they're 944 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,040 going, hey. What it got here? 945 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,640 Come on, taking out my rings. Are sad. 946 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,400 Yeah, and they got like a couple beer stains on the wife 947 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,000 protector. Yeah, wife protector. 948 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,720 Good, good usage. Good switch out. 949 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,920 Yeah, I always used to say that, and I never say that anymore. 950 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,080 Yeah, Good Wife Protector. I'm gonna steal that. 951 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,760 No, it's a good one. I, I, I think I just like heard 952 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,480 it in school one time. I thought it was funny. 953 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,280 It's. The exact opposite, actually. 954 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,080 If you think exactly no, there you go. 955 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,760 What else is? I had like a concept. 956 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,320 I had a thought last night, maybe I'll I'll try to look 957 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,280 through, but I was like, I want to give back to the unleashed 958 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,800 fam. I want to I want to do a little 959 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,600 segment maybe on Fridays where I compile the funniest comments 960 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,400 from the week. We throw them up, we react to 961 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,280 it. I've got a call. 962 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,320 I love it. I think you do hilarious. 963 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,360 I love it dude. Nice, where do you use your 964 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,280 head? I like it. 965 00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:00,440 So give me like 10-5 minutes. I'll try to, I'll try to just 966 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,440 get the screenshots up for them. But yeah, I was thinking about 967 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,520 that. I think that would be so fun. 968 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,440 I think it's great. I think it's a great way to be 969 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,800 proactive. There you go. 970 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,680 How awesome was it now? We had Sal on. 971 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,800 Sal was the 1st guest. How great was it having Kay on 972 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,880 yesterday? I mean, it wasn't. 973 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,920 He was just, it was great. It was sensational and I feel 974 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,760 like my thing, I think it really, you know, not to get too 975 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,680 metal with the conversation talking about the show, but I 976 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,080 just really feel like it felt so natural, you know, obviously the 977 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,400 back and forth going on between you 2 and I really just think, 978 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,960 you know, you did a great job hitting the poignant questions, 979 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,680 you know, giving him his proper time as a host. 980 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,840 Cuz I mean, listen, I've worked on a lot of podcasts and by this 981 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,520 point I know who's a good interviewer at this point and 982 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,880 who's not. And like, you know, you clearly 983 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,120 showed the chops in that regard. And it, it felt very different 984 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960 from the BT and Sal, obviously, because you had that rapport 985 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,680 before. This time it felt like, you 986 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,520 know, it just felt really fresh and it felt like, you know, a 987 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,120 great step, a great new element to the channel. 988 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,960 Well said buddy Bear. Look at J Rod. 989 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,840 I am like a brown Papa. Look at this young man starts to 990 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,000 shine. You're you. 991 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,240 You know what, I, I appreciate you saying that because I'd 992 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,920 rather somebody else say it rather than me. 993 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,440 I just don't think that because that just sounds cocky. 994 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,440 I don't think a lot of people know or now, I mean, now they do 995 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,040 how long Michael, when I go back, obviously working together 996 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,000 all those years, but I was at Michael's wedding, like I went 997 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,520 to his wedding and he was invited. 998 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,560 Now we got married down in Boca, right? 999 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,400 And he was invited to our wedding, but he couldn't come 1000 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,360 because it was October, because my wife had to get married. 1001 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,960 Had to on 10/10/10 is when we got married, October 10, 2010. 1002 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,600 Yeah. And I'm like, there's this 1003 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,360 little thing called Yankee playoff baseball here. 1004 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,080 Honeywell, you know what we doing at that point? 1005 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,480 The Jets were good. Yeah. 1006 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,320 I had a lot going on. But, you know, and then we went 1007 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,640 on vacation. We went on, on our on our 1008 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,400 honeymoon to Costa Rica. So I remember watching Yankee 1009 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,960 playoff games in Costa Rica. But Michael, Michael couldn't 1010 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,800 come. That was the point. 1011 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,800 Yeah. He's, he's a great guy, man. 1012 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,560 I I think that, you know, the more, the more I do this, it's 1013 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,920 really my goal to, you know, get people to see the other side. 1014 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,800 Like everybody knows Kay's the voice, the Yankees. 1015 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520 No shit. You've heard him on the radio 1016 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,480 for 20 years and on TV for 20 years. 1017 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,400 Let's get to some other stuff. I've never heard that story 1018 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,960 about his dad, you know, when somebody was making fun of him 1019 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,840 on the terrace, Go down and fight him otherwise. 1020 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,080 And these are Kay's Kay's words. If you missed it, hey, if you 1021 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,120 don't go downstairs and beat the shit out of him, I'm going to 1022 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,600 come over there and beat the shit out of you. 1023 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,760 And it wasn't and and and I and Michael, the way Michael said 1024 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,280 it, it was great because number one, it was like, wow, I never 1025 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440 really you don't hear Mike. I mean, I have off off the air, 1026 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,600 but you don't really hear Michael talk like that very 1027 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,760 much. And and also he said there were 1028 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,040 two choices and I said, no, no, there's three. 1029 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,840 Go downstairs, get whacked, stay upstairs, get whacked. 1030 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,280 And not that his dad would have, you know, like given him a black 1031 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,400 eye, but point understood. Or you go downstairs and you 1032 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,000 instead of doing the wacking, you get your ass kicked. 1033 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,920 But a step toward, you know, defending yourself. 1034 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,480 And I was just a great, great story, man. 1035 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840 I really, really enjoyed that. Let me get this up there. 1036 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,480 Where was it? Let me slap this guy up for you. 1037 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,800 This is interesting. I got a lot of this yesterday as 1038 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,160 well. If offered, would you go back to 1039 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,120 ESPN New York as Michael's Co host? 1040 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,000 I think the chemistry between you 2 was gold. 1041 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,920 Now, all right, a couple of things. 1042 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,360 First of all, I, I don't think Michael's looking for a Co host. 1043 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520 Number one, he's doing 2 hours a day. 1044 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,120 I think it's something that suits him. 1045 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,200 I think if Michael wanted to still have a Co host, I think 1046 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,040 that he would clearly still be working with Don now. 1047 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,920 Now he loves Don, but part of it was to get away from like the 1048 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,920 just the the logistics to shorten the day and instead of 1049 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,560 doing a bunch of hours, do 2 hours so we could rest up before 1050 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,720 the Yankee games. And he does a bunch of shows 1051 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:49,800 from home outside of once a week when he drives in. 1052 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,160 Listen, I am of the mindset what I don't want anybody to think 1053 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,960 because this will not happen. We're going to hit eat. 1054 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,720 We're going to hit 18,000 Subs probably by tomorrow and 1055 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:03,520 certainly by Saturday. We're at we're going to fly by 1056 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,600 20,000 Subs by first pitch. Opening day lock going to 1057 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,280 happen. 25,000 is going to be a bit ambitious, which I'd love to 1058 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,800 get there by opening day. All right, maybe we don't, but 1059 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,840 we're going to be well past 20,000. 1060 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,360 Every moment of my day is spent on this show thinking we're 1061 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120 doing all right. So I don't want anybody to think 1062 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,840 that has come here to support me and elevate me and embrace me 1063 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,320 and follow me and doing what you're doing to help us get to a 1064 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,560 pretty healthy number very soon, very fast. 1065 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,680 To think that I'm just doing this to hold, to hold the seat 1066 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,440 at the table until somebody comes and offers me a job. 1067 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,240 I'm just, that's not what I'm doing. 1068 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,800 This will never go away. All right? 1069 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,920 I will do this no matter what. Now, I will also say if somebody 1070 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,600 called and I've, I've already had people reach out about a lot 1071 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,280 of things. I was on the phone yesterday 1072 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,720 with somebody that I won't divulge, but and I think that 1073 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,920 will come to fruition. In addition to this, obviously 1074 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,200 separate from this clearly, because this is here to stay. 1075 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,920 I am so excited about this and so energized and, and just 1076 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,560 galvanized by a YouTube presence and possibility. 1077 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,840 Like, I, I almost feel like I'm, I'm new in the business. 1078 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,960 I I can't explain it man. I mean, I, I totally feel you. 1079 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,240 And it's like, I think when you have your own YouTube show like 1080 00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:26,680 this, you put yourself into that cultural and that sport 1081 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,640 zeitgeist in such a fresh and new way where you're like, 1082 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,280 you're building yourself like you are your own entity is its 1083 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,080 own entity. It's separate from any company, 1084 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,360 any overhanging umbrella. This is the umbrella. 1085 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,560 And now you're building the things underneath that. 1086 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,800 And I think that's what's exciting about having a YouTube 1087 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,960 channel is the fact that it's your own and it's a way where 1088 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,400 you can really make your mark in the universe. 1089 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,960 Yeah, there's no question. Again, well said on the money 1090 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,840 there, Jay. So, you know, just answer it 1091 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,400 more directly. If somebody called like that, 1092 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,860 would I listen 100%? I don't think Michael wants a Co 1093 00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:02,920 host. I don't think they're looking 1094 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,480 for anybody. I think this applies for me. 1095 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,840 I think this applies for J Rod. I think this applies for all of 1096 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,040 you out there. You could be completely 1097 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,480 entrenched in something and happy and diligent and busy and 1098 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,360 fulfilled. And if there's a way to add to 1099 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,320 that, you take the call and you have the conversation. 1100 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,240 I mean, I learned that day one. Of course it's common sense. 1101 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,840 Here's a good question. What if Stephen A asked you to 1102 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,400 be his VP running mate? Would you leave us for that? 1103 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,640 Oh boy, it. Depends on what side of the 1104 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,160 ticket he's going to run for. I OK, a few people have asked me 1105 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,280 that and I'm we're going to have Steven on the show. 1106 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,920 I can't wait, you know, much like I couldn't wait to have 1107 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,400 Michael on. I think that Steven conversation 1108 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,520 is going to be equally amazing and completely different because 1109 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,120 while I I've known Michael forever, I actually did a show 1110 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,480 with Steven and the conversation's off the air. 1111 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,160 As a matter of fact now he's since moved. 1112 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,560 I was at his house couple days like 2 years ago just sitting 1113 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,640 down bullshitting. I'm just so happy for him and 1114 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,320 he's just, he's amazing. Like there is nobody in the 1115 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,800 sporting landscape that could touch him. 1116 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,360 And the fact that we've had this friendship, but it's never 1117 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,440 dissipated. Even when I went to San 1118 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,320 Francisco or you know, when I went to do the national stuff 1119 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,280 with Tiki for 10 years or the fan or, you know, there was a 1120 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,040 lot of stuff that was going to the point where, and I know, I 1121 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,720 know you guys don't know this, but I will tell you this. 1122 00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:32,840 I remember going to have a personal tryout with Stephen A 1123 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,480 for first Take like they were looking. 1124 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,520 Yeah, I didn't get it. I didn't get it for whatever 1125 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,160 reason. I'm not sure. 1126 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,520 And Max did a good job and and I know that, you know, Max and 1127 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,240 Steven maybe didn't go toward the end the way that whatever. 1128 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,200 But and I I I know Steven a great. 1129 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,320 I know Max a little bit. I got love for Max. 1130 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,480 Nothing bad to say. Max talented guy, smart guy. 1131 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,400 I think very different debate styles, which I I I think was, 1132 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,320 was, which probably was never going to lead to the longevity 1133 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,680 that maybe some people thought it would. 1134 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,040 But I remember going to an undis this undisclosed spot in 1135 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,320 Manhattan and actually sitting in a little room with Steven and 1136 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,160 doing a fake first take show like. 1137 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,880 And that was because Steven thought that I was talented 1138 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,440 enough and he desired he respected me. 1139 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,160 I could definitely to to possibly get that job. 1140 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,200 I can see it. Well, I mean, I mean, it's gonna 1141 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,120 happen now. So I don't know if you sure she 1142 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:26,080 might. It didn't happen. 1143 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,960 I didn't get the job. Man, well, I'll send. 1144 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,440 You a fucking millionaire right now? 1145 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,240 I will yo big millions upon millionaires. 1146 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,200 I would be I'd. Be sad, listen, maybe you could 1147 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,800 come and revive first. Take Now, Come through, Revive 1148 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,320 the show. Yeah, well, I mean, listen, I'm 1149 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,840 open anything. Is there something like that? 1150 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,480 You know, I will tell you this, right? 1151 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,800 I remember then I want to get some mixed stuff and I got some 1152 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,680 other stuff for you as well. I remember going into the city 1153 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,520 and doing it with Steven, right? And I remember talking, I 1154 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,280 remember him calling me a few times like, hey, you know, this 1155 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,560 might happen and we're going to get you in. 1156 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,240 And then his producer called me all that stuff. 1157 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,400 And, you know, I, I never put that out there for public 1158 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,680 consumption because. And maybe that hurt me in terms 1159 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,760 of getting a little bit more notoriety and a little bit more 1160 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,640 popularity. Just like when I had lunch with 1161 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,640 Mike Francesa when Mad Dog left, I told my agent, don't put that 1162 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,720 out there. So I, there were a couple times 1163 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:26,960 where I don't know, maybe if I would have played it 1164 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,960 differently, who knows? But in everything happens for a 1165 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,640 reason and I'm, I'm totally happy and fulfilled and 1166 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,680 energized. But you know, if you look at 1167 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,040 some of the names that Francesa was thinking about bringing in, 1168 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:42,120 you know, Bill Simmons was 1, Max was another, was it Sid? 1169 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,000 It may have been Sid. And and I was, I was in the mix 1170 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,480 a little bit. So I just never, I didn't talk 1171 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,000 out of school. So I always kept that stuff to 1172 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,560 myself. But I remember leaving and 1173 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,760 getting on the ferry because we lived in on the right, right 1174 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,280 across the water. So I take the ferry across the 1175 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,600 New Jersey and I'm never stopping at a bar. 1176 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,480 I never drink during the day. Like I, I mess around that, hey, 1177 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,480 have a Scotch or mess around, have a gummy, like I'll have my 1178 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,200 fun here and there. I never drink, never during the 1179 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,080 week, ever, ever, ever. And I remember stopping in a bar 1180 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,000 and and getting a Scotch and I was so disappointed. 1181 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,920 I knew I didn't get it. I just, I knew it. 1182 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,400 And you know, this was a long time ago. 1183 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,960 This was well over 10 years. And I think what I did was I 1184 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,480 deferred too much because the dynamics, this emerging massive 1185 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,880 colossal Titan of, of industry superstar. 1186 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,720 And I wasn't intimidated because I knew him. 1187 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,480 It's not like I never met the guy. 1188 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,200 And I'm like, Jesus, guy's out of his mind. 1189 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,400 I knew his style and I, I knew his sisters. 1190 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,920 I, I, you know, I, I knew family like I knew him. 1191 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,400 We were friends for sure. But like when the camera went 1192 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,960 on, I, I felt like I wasn't me. And if I, who knows, if I would 1193 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,000 have been a little bit more me, would I have gotten the job? 1194 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,080 Maybe not, you know, maybe they were just looking for something 1195 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,640 for not. I don't, I don't know, I don't 1196 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,280 know what into the what, what went into the full rationale of 1197 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000 bring in Max and, and, and not giving me a chance. 1198 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,840 And, and listen, Max did well on the show. 1199 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,320 The numbers were good, very good. 1200 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:16,960 But I remember and I just sipping that Scotch, calling my 1201 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,600 wife. I'm like, I don't think I got 1202 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,080 it. I, I don't love the way I did 1203 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,800 today. I really, cuz I'm honest, like 1204 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,840 I'm honest about that to me, like I'm not going to live in 1205 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,080 fairy tale land like oh, some people in my business, I can't 1206 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,000 stand this. Some people are they're like, 1207 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,120 oh, great show great. You know how I feel about the 1208 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,440 word great. I'm very protective. 1209 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,800 All right, So you know, my, my wife couldn't hear how couldn't 1210 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,680 wait to hear how I did. I think was she pregnant? 1211 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,600 I don't even know. I think she was pregnant. 1212 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,800 I don't think we had kids yet and I'm just like, I don't and I 1213 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,280 was really depressed. Depressed is strong really down 1214 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,000 because my it's like that quarterback clock, like when you 1215 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,560 know, you kill it. You just like I knew not to 1216 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,840 sound like an ass. I knew the the interview with 1217 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:02,960 KS. It was going great. 1218 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,760 I can feel that the vibe, the energy, the flow, the content, 1219 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,440 his level of comfort make you know how how we interacted. 1220 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,720 I knew it was a money spot largely because of him. 1221 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,000 I'm not even taking credit for that. 1222 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,040 But I also knew like in a situation like that, I'm like, I 1223 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,120 think I fucked up. I don't think I got and I 1224 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:20,840 didn't. Dang. 1225 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,400 Yeah. And if I did, you wouldn't know 1226 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,760 me, J Rod. So, you know, you should be 1227 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,120 happy. Well, you know me, but you 1228 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,000 wouldn't know me. Know me? 1229 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,520 Yeah, I know you from from you from from like my childhood 1230 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,240 YouTube watching days. It's like I think that's, you 1231 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,640 know, like first take was really at its, you know, big popularity 1232 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,480 in like that 2016 through 2019 era. 1233 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,280 I mean you know, now obviously it's still got its traction as 1234 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,480 ESP NS main show, but I don't know if it has the same 1235 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,400 cultural. Boom, it doesn't. 1236 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,560 It did. When Max Kellerman was going 1237 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,840 Iguodala like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1238 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,880 You know those. Were that was, you know, that 1239 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,040 was it and like, I don't know, especially like the Skip and 1240 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,720 Shannon era was huge. See, that's why I think that 1241 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,080 what we're doing here is so great because this is the next 1242 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,480 era in sports media. It really is. 1243 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:15,320 I know this more, you know, laid back kind of rogue, early Rogan 1244 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,960 esque like type of podcasting where you're where you're kind 1245 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,560 of just shooting the shit, shooting the shit with the fans 1246 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,800 too. At the same time, I really think 1247 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,800 that is the new meta, the new schema. 1248 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,840 I've got to keep that up there because I'm going to. 1249 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,120 I had a hysterical story that I'm going to give you some on in 1250 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,880 a minute, Omar. I remember that well, I've got a 1251 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,080 I've got a challenge for you and I don't know what amount we can 1252 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,520 talk about it off the air. If you deliver on this 1253 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,040 challenge, you'll you'll get you get a little bonus. 1254 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,440 I don't take this the wrong way. I don't think you'll be able to 1255 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,000 do it. I think you'll fail. 1256 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,480 Not not a lack of effort because I don't think that he'll view me 1257 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,480 as interesting enough. Get me on Rogan show. 1258 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:05,120 Get me on Rogan show. All right, we're going to have 1259 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,640 to do that. We're going to have to start 1260 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,000 getting some hot takes thrown out here, I mean. 1261 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,640 But I'm not a hot no, no. I had to go through that stuff 1262 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,400 for a minute with, with with the fan for the audio. 1263 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,560 Come on, get the opinions out in 10 seconds. 1264 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,880 Everybody's got to know. I love Spike, but you got to 1265 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,000 know where you stand. Come on. 1266 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,240 We got to debate, we got to fight. 1267 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,520 Not that every throw out hot takes from said somebody believe 1268 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,560 it. No hot takes here, no. 1269 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,040 I'm trying to think and, and he's not the kind of guy who 1270 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,760 loves that either. And I think, you know, I mean, 1271 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,760 I, I was a bigger fan of him a couple years ago too, but I 1272 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,440 think you and him would have a great dynamic, a great 1273 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,760 conversation. I think both of you are two guys 1274 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,480 who are very, you don't care about forcing your opinion on 1275 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,760 someone necessarily. You care about just hearing what 1276 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,040 the other person thinks, letting it, letting it fly. 1277 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,400 Can I tell you something? Can I can I tell you something? 1278 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,880 All right, so you got to get on that So and and keep that up, 1279 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,680 Omar. I promise I'll hit that You you 1280 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,600 guys are going to want to hear this story about Stephen A on 1281 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,920 the golf course. I'll give you a good one. 1282 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,600 You've got to do this and the level of diligence and not 1283 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,600 taking no for an answer has to be at an all time high. 1284 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,760 You must be a persistent pain in the ass pest. 1285 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,840 Somebody clip this get this to I love Joe Rogan show. 1286 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,520 I don't agree with everything he says, you know, and some of the 1287 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,960 things he talks about, I, I, I really couldn't even add any 1288 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,280 depth to like, I mean, I, I, I follow everything about the 1289 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,960 world, but I mean, his level of knowledge is, is incredible and 1290 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,120 his level of conversation is off the charts phenomenal, right? 1291 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,920 So it will be an honor to fly out there and do the show. 1292 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,080 I would even pay for it myself. Like I would even pay my, I 1293 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,200 really would. I would pay my own dime and get 1294 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,920 my own accommodations and, and go to go out there and hang out 1295 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:43,840 with him. I really would. 1296 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,360 And The funny thing is too, you talk about like conversation and 1297 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,840 the art of doing an interview. That was one of the hardest 1298 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,360 things for me to learn as a young broadcaster. 1299 01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:00,080 When you're, when you're a young broadcaster and you know, your 1300 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,400 dad, don't take this the wrong way, anybody, your dad's not in 1301 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720 the business. So doors aren't held open for 1302 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,480 you. Kind of again, like that Rocky 1303 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,320 mentality and you got to, and Sal has this as well. 1304 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,520 You got to fight and scratch and claw for everything that you get 1305 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,040 in this. It is hard, dude. 1306 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,160 It the, the grind and being piss poor and moving around the 1307 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,320 country, never knowing, believing, but never really 1308 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,320 knowing. It's going to work and I'm going 1309 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,600 to go back to New York and I'm going to make it like it is. 1310 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,960 It's exhausting. It's exhilarating. 1311 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,960 It's it, it's worry. So you name it. 1312 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,880 It's, it's everything. And the hardest thing for me to 1313 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,200 learn was to shut the hell up. And I'll tell you what I mean by 1314 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,000 that. Not when I'm doing a monologue 1315 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,640 or, you know, banging it out with callers when I would have a 1316 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:49,960 guest on the art of asking a question as you get older, 1317 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,960 number one, you have to listen to their answer. 1318 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,080 Otherwise your follow up question will be a waste of 1319 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,360 time. And I remember like when I first 1320 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,440 started out, like I'd have like 10 things written down and like 1321 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,760 I would just kind of zip through them. 1322 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,440 But yet if they give you a really interesting answer to the 1323 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,400 first question, it opens up a dialogue to have to go 1324 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,240 somewhere. That might be the best part of 1325 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,920 the conversation. Yeah, That gets all the clicks 1326 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,160 and gets all the pub and all that stuff. 1327 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,120 So. But when you're really young and 1328 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,080 you try to prove to program directors and your peers that 1329 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,280 you're worthy of this spot, certainly in New York, you just 1330 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,960 don't shut up. And I had a tendency to ask a 1331 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,080 lot of questions, right? Well, I mean to ask a question, 1332 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,320 but lace my question with opinion. 1333 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,320 I'm going to give you an example. 1334 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:40,600 SO20003456 maybe even 8/10/2010 11:12 PT would ask a question 1335 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,800 and say, let's say I'm talking to Aaron Boone. 1336 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,200 You know, I'm going to take Michael K as an example. 1337 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,840 Hey, hey, listen, Mike, you know, so So what do you think if 1338 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,720 things don't go and I asked this question, if things don't go 1339 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,760 well for Boone this year, what do you think about his job 1340 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,880 security? And I and I and I laid out right 1341 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,160 that you actually saw the clip live, right? 1342 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,480 We played it for you earlier and you actually see me shut up like 1343 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,440 like you like a seasoned host and listen to his answer, right. 1344 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,200 Back in the day, what you would have gotten was and I would just 1345 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,160 diarrhea the mouth. Hey, hey, Mike, you know, if 1346 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,880 things go sideways, you know contracts up in 2027 if the 1347 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,720 Yankees don't do XY and Z this year, do you think this will be 1348 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,120 the end of Boone as the manager? And then instead of laying out, 1349 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,200 I would say, because let's face it, you know, he's had almost 10 1350 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320 years to get it done. And even though Brian Cashman 1351 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,400 hasn't done a great job and you know where I stand on Brian 1352 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,080 Cashman, they haven't had enough left-handed hitters and they 1353 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,680 haven't had a first baseman or a catcher or whatever it might be 1354 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,760 or they haven't really had a third baseman Volpe's. 1355 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:44,320 But it like you, you mangle the question with 37,000 opinions 1356 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,240 and the people who are what true. 1357 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,680 I, I was so guilt. I was terrible at that. 1358 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,560 I had to get better at that. And people who are listening and 1359 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,240 watching, they're like, what's the question? 1360 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,640 And it's even happened to me and I would never name names because 1361 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,440 it's and they're younger and it's all out of respect. 1362 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,640 Like when I go on shows and they're doing some people do 1363 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,240 what I used to do, I'm saying to myself, let's go, hurry up, man, 1364 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,960 come on, answer the ask the question because I know what it 1365 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,520 sounds like. So I would I don't even know how 1366 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,880 we got into that, but I think it was one of the texts there. 1367 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,320 I think that oh, the Rogan stuff. 1368 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,640 I think it's and I think that he's great at that. 1369 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,720 And I think it's an art. You talk about the art of 1370 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,280 communication. It's one thing to espouse what 1371 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,880 you believe and presented in a clear, bold, compelling way, but 1372 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,880 you got to be able to listen. All right, let me get my Stephen 1373 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,440 A story up here. This is Omar, right? 1374 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,160 All right, so I remember when Stephen A came on your show on 1375 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,120 1050 back in 2010. All right, this was after we, we 1376 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,040 had already worked together and, and, and at the golf story where 1377 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,160 he was asking you if you should use the three word from the Sam 1378 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,360 bunker. Holy shit. 1379 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,280 I've never seen anything like this in my life. 1380 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,160 So the, the golf course was New York Country Club. 1381 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,520 All right, We used to have a relationship there when I was at 1382 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,120 10:50 where I I think it was like $50,000 worth of free golf 1383 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,440 and I'm taking my buddies there every single weekend and I'm 1384 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,880 just signing my name. BT you know, I had three 1385 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,080 friends, whatever, just my buddies college, like my best 1386 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,760 friend, nobody in the industry, like I'm not there for work. 1387 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,680 Dan Robbo, Maddie, Danny Mad, another Frank, right Scott and 1388 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,800 I'm just signing away. It's 460 bucks. 1389 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,960 Sure, I'll sign. We'll go play some golf boys, 1390 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,520 right. So that's the course that we 1391 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,480 played and Stephen A and I would talk about golf a lot on the on 1392 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,480 the show and he'd never played right. 1393 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,000 I was trying to get him out. So I purposely pick a time and 1394 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,600 not that I was great, but I I, I at least knew how to play. 1395 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,120 I picked the time. I think we went out on a Sunday 1396 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,360 at like, or it could have even been a weekday, but it was like 1397 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,960 it 5:00 and we teed off and I purposely looked at the T sheet, 1398 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,600 all that stuff. Wide open Country Club. 1399 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,080 So it wasn't that cheap, you know, So what it was like it was 1400 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,720 a beauty. No disrespect. 1401 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,400 I love some muties, but it was empty. 1402 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,120 So we go on the first tee box and it was an elevated par 4. 1403 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,640 It it played, it was really downhill and it played about, 1404 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,880 you know, 290. So young me is going up there 1405 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,600 with my driver or when I was really hitting the ball well, I 1406 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,120 would try to crush the three hybrid of a little downwind. 1407 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,440 And a lot of times we we'd make the green and there was a body 1408 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,000 of water right in front of it. Maybe you go along, maybe you 1409 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,720 bang it right, maybe for as a lefty, maybe I push it left, but 1410 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,480 I will chip on. That's how it always play the 1411 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,280 1st hole. So we're on the 1st hole and I 1412 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,320 got drive her my hand. He's like, BT I'll be right 1413 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,840 back. I'll be right back, all right. 1414 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,360 I swear to God, I'm waiting 10 minutes. 1415 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,600 I'm like, where the fuck did this guy go? 1416 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,280 There's nobody, nobody around. He goes in the pro shop, he 1417 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,440 comes out eating a hot dog, right? 1418 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,200 And he's got these Argyle golf socks on, right? 1419 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,640 And he goes something along the lines of I may, I may. 1420 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,240 Oh, yeah. How in his voice. 1421 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,920 I look, I look like Tiger Woods right up until I step on the 1422 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,360 first team. Oh, no, I, I look, I look like 1423 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,640 Tiger Woods when I step up to the team box until I take that 1424 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,440 first swing he's got. He didn't have Vickers on, but 1425 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,160 he had, I don't know what he was wearing. 1426 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,200 Dude, it was absolutely wild. So I'm like, where were you, 1427 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,240 man? Come on, we got to go. 1428 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,480 It's gay. I'm going to play 18. 1429 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,240 The sun's going to come down. I won't play golf. 1430 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,880 Let's go. The whole time he's on his 1431 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,800 phone. Now I understand why he had he's 1432 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,000 he's a mega star. It was with us. 1433 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,760 Who knows how many girls he was talking to, but a lot of it was 1434 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,680 was business because I mean, he was single at the time and he 1435 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,440 had just launched a quite frankly show. 1436 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,440 He was already a superstar. So I get it. 1437 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,400 There were a lot of demands. But 10-12 minutes later he comes 1438 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,920 out of the clubhouse. I'm like, dude, where, where 1439 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,680 were you? And he's like, well, he's like, 1440 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,680 you know, some people wanted my autograph. 1441 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,000 I'm like, I didn't see anybody there. 1442 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,560 Nobody was around and go, hey, true story. 1443 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,360 He goes, they might not want your autograph, but they wanted 1444 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,920 mine. I'm like, Nah, touché, fair 1445 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,480 enough. So I guess some people come out 1446 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,120 of the kitchen or the pro shop and then he'd buy any shit. 1447 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,600 We get to the 2nd hole after that downhill one. 1448 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,880 And you know, I mean, trust me, I could easily take it 9 on many 1449 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,200 holes, which I'm sure I will this summer. 1450 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,760 And then I'll just pick up and keep it moving. 1451 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:11,560 Open a beer. He is in a not a not a fairway 1452 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,080 bunker, mind you. He is in a greenside bunker. 1453 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,080 Greenside. Get the wedge out now. 1454 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,680 It might take you 10 swings. You're going to get sand. 1455 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,760 You might skull one out that goes 100 yards. 1456 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,560 You might get lucky and plop one on the green. 1457 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,160 If you get lucky, it stays. There's a lot of things that can 1458 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:32,200 happen there. I could not believe now I was, I 1459 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,520 think I was sitting, I had a good drive. 1460 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,160 I was sitting like 1 and I but I pulled it like then I was always 1461 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,240 there. So like I have a wedge so I can 1462 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,800 kind of at that point easily go over the trees to try to get 1463 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,520 there too. He's sitting like 6 or 7 in the 1464 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,720 green side bunker, maybe higher again, maybe 9 and I hear him 1465 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:51,880 yell across the court across the whole so he's on the left hand 1466 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,960 green, left side, green side bunker. 1467 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:58,880 I am about probably hit at about 270 ish 265 I'm getting ready to 1468 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,680 hit my second wedge all the way on the on the right on the other 1469 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,240 fairway getting ready to come. So we're we're a ways away and 1470 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:10,600 all I hear is go BTBT. What should I use the three 1471 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,560 wood? I go, what the fuck is this guy 1472 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,200 talking about? A three wood. 1473 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,359 I I go and I yell I go no use the wedge. 1474 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,600 I didn't really even know what a wedge is. 1475 01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,560 So of course, you know, I didn't even think I hit it on the 1476 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,760 green, but a little bit short. Now I got the cart and I put it 1477 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,399 up and I'm getting ready to chip on and putt and whatever and 1478 01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:35,840 he's still in the fairway hacking away. 1479 01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:40,600 He's literally 9 feet from the cup but he's in a bunker trying 1480 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,880 to get out with the three wood. That's the only time I've ever 1481 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,319 played golf with Stephen AI. Can't wait to have him on the 1482 01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:48,600 show. J Rod. 1483 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,120 How about that? Dude, that is too funny because 1484 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,720 I've seen the the clip of you guys on 1050, I think talking 1485 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,080 about the golfing or whatever. Like I think just like, you 1486 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,120 know, whenever I started this, I just went through like the 1487 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,320 YouTube rabbit hole of you and his show and that was so it was 1488 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,800 too funny. There is there is some video of 1489 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,600 us, but now I think the one where is he wearing a suit in 1490 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:11,720 it. He always had a lot of suits on 1491 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,120 because he was. Is a suit you have a backwards 1492 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,760 hat on. Yes, OK. 1493 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:21,280 That was when I got my own show and I was doing middays and he 1494 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:26,800 had moved on I think did the station, the station 1 of I 1495 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,040 think they may have moved on from him, which is insane. 1496 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,040 And he was like doing some, he was doing like stuff on WABC, 1497 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,240 like after Sean Hannity doing a lot of TV and he came in as a 1498 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,240 guest. He did me a solid. 1499 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:40,760 So the I know the video that you're talking about. 1500 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,960 I do know the video that you're talking about and he's there all 1501 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,520 suited up. That's that is out there has a 1502 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,640 lot of fun talking to him. So we'll get him up. 1503 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,440 All right, So how about that golf story, though? 1504 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,760 Yo, BTBT, what do I use the three words? 1505 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,640 No, you knucklehead. Do you have a sandwich in your 1506 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,840 bag? All right, so the Knicks last 1507 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,640 night, I'm not going to run through the because you either 1508 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,680 watched it or you didn't. Knicks lost by three. 1509 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,080 You know, I will give you a couple little snippets from the 1510 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,360 game, but I want to do a little bit more big picture here. 1511 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,520 The approach has got to be better. 1512 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,440 I mean, I know that cats taking some heat. 1513 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:17,400 Certainly for me. I've also been fair in talking 1514 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,760 about cats been playing a lot better. 17 points, 17 rebounds, 1515 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,000 fouled out, bullshit foul. I didn't like that call. 1516 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,440 Mike Brown got teed up. Mike Brown's first tech of the 1517 01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:29,160 year. How do you coach 60 games and 1518 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,400 not have a single tech? Like that's a problem to me, you 1519 01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:34,200 know, and that I just need a little bit more. 1520 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,400 I don't need, you know, like with the 9 ejections. 1521 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,480 But can you have 3 techs by game #60 can you have a little bit of 1522 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:43,640 energy? You just, I, I'm going to need 1523 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,280 and that's not who he is. So it's not going to come. 1524 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,040 But he did get teed up last night when Jalen got hit in the 1525 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,560 face with, with Jay Gill. Gill just Alexander in the eye 1526 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,080 got the black eye that was that was an egregious missed by the 1527 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,920 refs. Anyway, the I think it's safe to 1528 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,640 say here again, more macro on the Knicks and less about the 1529 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,760 game. It was a fun game. 1530 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,480 Chabot was great. You know, the Knicks starters to 1531 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,520 a man did not play well. Again, when you look at some of 1532 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,680 the plus minuses OG heart bridge, they were all, you know, 1533 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,840 negative plus minuses. Alvarado had a horrendous one, 1534 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,320 but Chabot was really good and and and Cat had 17 rebounds, as 1535 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,320 I said, But forget about all that stuff. 1536 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,160 I was thinking about this. I just jotted down maybe an 1537 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,920 order at the top and then I kind of just breezed through it here. 1538 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,240 The top ten NBA teams, obviously the Knicks are in there. 1539 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,400 I'm going to push them to the side for a minute because many 1540 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,160 of you are like, well, dude, they got a chance, man. 1541 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,120 They got a chance and and I know that they have a chance. 1542 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,040 I don't think they have a great chance to win the championship. 1543 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,200 I'm on the record with that. But of course they've got a 1544 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,800 chance because they're one of the X amount of better teams and 1545 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,400 I'll define that X in a minute. But top ten NBA teams, no order. 1546 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,760 This is my order. OK, C Spurs, you know, 1-2 1547 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,760 Pistons are up there Celtics, the Cavaliers, the Timberwolves, 1548 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,520 Denver give the Rockets a little bit love and you know, and and 1549 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,040 if now as I look to wedge in the Knicks in their rightful spot 1550 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,760 456 in that window. All right, so first match up 1551 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,800 with OKC they like so so last night very tight game could have 1552 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,520 won. We know, OK, CS better 1553 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,840 champions, better, better roster, better store player. 1554 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,200 Alexander's just better than Brunson. 1555 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,600 He's pretty much better than everybody. 1556 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,320 Maybe in a year or two, Kate Cunningham truly jumps past him, 1557 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,680 maybe as a young guard, but he's that good. 1558 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,520 You know, obviously, Luca, OK, C Spurs. 1559 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,520 Now, the Knicks have played very well against the Spurs. 1560 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,640 So if they get to an NBA Finals, again, I'm not banking on this. 1561 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,440 But if they do, I would feel pretty good about the Knicks and 1562 01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,840 their chances to beat the Spurs. The Pistons. 1563 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,960 I think the Pistons own them. I think the Knicks are a little 1564 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,040 intimidated by the Pistons. And if you think that that's 1565 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,520 unfair to the Knicks, OK, which I can see some of you saying, I 1566 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,760 would then at least say that. I think the Pistons look at the 1567 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,360 Knicks and they think that they own them. 1568 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,760 So if you don't want to get at least consent or or give me 1569 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,320 that, the Knicks are a little bit whatever when they face the 1570 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,720 Pistons. The Pistons do not look at the 1571 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,000 Knicks as a real threat. They pushed him around a year 1572 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,240 ago. They lost a tight, tough series, 1573 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:16,880 young team only more seasoned, better coach in Bickerstaff, 1574 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,160 better store player Cunningham over Brunson. 1575 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,120 That's going to ruffle some feathers, but he's better, 1576 01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:24,240 better players, tougher. You know, we'll see. 1577 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,160 But at least the Knicks beat them last year and then in the 1578 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,720 Pistons premier, a top three NBA team. 1579 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:34,600 So you got a chance obviously. I think if things change too, at 1580 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,760 least have a chance to beat the Pistons in the seven game 1581 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,000 series. Pistons, I think would be 1582 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,680 favored homecourt, slightly better team, whatever the 1583 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,880 Celtics all right, Tatum's back. Tatum's going to be back. 1584 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,440 We know what happened a year ago. 1585 01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:48,160 Knicks didn't play well against the Celtics. 1586 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,880 Playoff start Bridges blocking shots at the horn Knicks winning 1587 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,600 in Boston Knicks for the big upset. 1588 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,560 Knicks could beat the Celtics in the playoff series and they 1589 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,880 could beat the Cavaliers as well. 1590 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,760 So they could win. I think like last night, if they 1591 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,280 would have lost, say, excuse me, 119 to one O 1. 1592 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,360 All right, you know, 127 to 98 like what's going on here, But 1593 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,720 that didn't happen. So you know, I'm I'm not 1594 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,760 changing my ultimate view on what the Knicks could become and 1595 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,720 what they could do this year. But I'm I'm adding a little 1596 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:24,680 context that in the grand scheme of the NBA, obviously a little 1597 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,040 bit more Nick centric on this channel on this show. 1598 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,200 And when you are more eccentric and you focus on one thing, the 1599 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,120 tendency is to illuminate the bed. 1600 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,840 That's just the way of of the world when we do what we do 1601 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,600 here, right? Because think about this guys. 1602 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,800 When you watch a team every night, you tend to, I mean, 1603 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,720 unless they're just like Jordan's Bulls or the 98 Yankees 1604 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:51,280 or, you know, Walsh's 49ers or Brady and Belichick's Pats, like 1605 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,720 one of those Birds, Celtics, Lakers, Magic Magics, Lakers. 1606 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,920 You know, you, I think you, you are Uber critical of the 1607 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,920 deficiencies. And that's kind of what you tend 1608 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,800 to, you know, poke at and, and worry about and about and you 1609 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,880 kind of gloss over the good, right? 1610 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,000 And I think I'm probably a little guilty of that with the 1611 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,560 Knicks this year. Now, my ultimate assessment is 1612 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,600 still they're not good enough to win a championship. 1613 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,280 And at this point, that's all I want. 1614 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,760 I'm not interested in getting to the Eastern Conference finals 1615 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,280 and losing. That means nothing. 1616 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,520 I mean, granted, if you take another step and you get to the 1617 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,960 finals and you lose to the Spurs or the OR the the Thunder and 1618 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,720 it's really or Denver even and it's really competitive all 1619 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,280 right, you got to the NBA Finals. 1620 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,440 What's the what's the final tweak to get you over the hump? 1621 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,400 That would be a fun run. But anything short of getting 1622 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,320 there is just an underachievement. 1623 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,720 And that's why don't Mike Brown has all the pressure in the 1624 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,880 world and I don't think he's a championship coach. 1625 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,520 I never did. So I don't think the Knicks 1626 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,120 going to win anything this year, but they, I, I think the 1627 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,680 ultimate downfall here. Nothing has changed in my 1628 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,800 ultimate, ultimate evaluation of these Knicks like Brunson, and 1629 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,920 there's a few. Mike Brown to me is not an 1630 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,120 elite. He's a good coach, he's a 1631 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,880 quality coach, he's a fine coach. 1632 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,280 He's not championship coach. Problem number one problem #2 1633 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,320 the Knicks 2 best players, even though Katz been playing much 1634 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,040 better, much better, much, much better defense, even whether 1635 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,040 it's on ball weak side help much better defense for the last 1636 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,560 month or so. And the numbers back that up. 1637 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,240 And the Knicks is a team defensively or top ten in that 1638 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,000 rating. So they they've done a better 1639 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,400 job as well. So they've kind of worked around 1640 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,480 the deficiencies of Kat and Brunson, but they're two best 1641 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:30,520 players historically or atrocious defenders. 1642 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,280 Problem #2 And then you get to, you know, and this I have 1643 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,000 glossed over this because my, my target's been more cat. 1644 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,920 I love Jalen Brunson, but the more I watch him, he's not a guy 1645 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,600 that you're going to run to, you know, ride a championship with. 1646 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,520 Jalen Brunson's not a guy that you're going to ride to a 1647 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,400 championship win. He's not, you know, he's been a 1648 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,520 great nick. He's a big time winner. 1649 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,520 He's a hell of a player. See, but you got the penthouse, 1650 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:03,000 the Alexander's, you know, the Giannis is when he's healthy, 1651 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,080 you know, guys like that. And then you get the next cut. 1652 01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:08,840 And I, and I think that that's where Jalen Kate Cunningham, I 1653 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,640 believe, is more in that first cut than the than the one that 1654 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,440 Jalen's in right now. And I don't think Jaylen Brunson 1655 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:18,360 is ever going to get better Like what, 26 1/2 points a game, 7 1656 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:23,760 Dimes shooting, 47% overall, 8384% from the strike, 3738% 1657 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,000 from downtown. All really good numbers. 1658 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,880 All Star making all NBA team, Knicks win 50 plus. 1659 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,800 You know, listen, I think Jaylen Brunson is going to be here for 1660 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,600 over a decade. I think I think Jaylen's number 1661 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,120 is going to be retired and rightfully so. 1662 01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:41,400 But that doesn't mean that Jalen Brunson individually as a 1663 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,000 singular basketball entity is going to be great enough, 1664 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:51,560 dynamic enough and consistent enough to lead the Knicks to a 1665 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,480 championship. So if you believe that, and I 1666 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,520 do, I love the guy, but that's what I believe. 1667 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,320 Now you got to get to the other things, the coach, the secondary 1668 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,520 stars, and that's Cat, you know, lesser extent, that's an OG, 1669 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,240 that's a Bridges. And I don't think that that's 1670 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,640 great enough either. So, you know, I again, last 1671 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,360 night was a fun game, especially with the comeback. 1672 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,280 I love. I've always been a shaman fan. 1673 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:15,760 I got receipts on that. I, I liked, I wanted them to 1674 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,480 resign him. It bothered me that Tom Pibodeau 1675 01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,480 didn't play him. He's the guy that I want 1676 01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,600 playing. He's the guy that I trust on the 1677 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,040 road in the play offs, you know, kind of a swing game playing 1678 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,320 1314 minutes when the starters are out, you know, and it's kind 1679 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,520 of that that 3 or 4 minute interval where if the Subs play 1680 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,600 very well, the Knicks very well might win that game. 1681 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,440 If the Subs can't carry the mail, the Knicks probably going 1682 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:42,160 to lose that game. Like it's either going to build 1683 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,600 on a lead or it's going to cut into a deficit. 1684 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,920 That's how I view Subs in. I mean every night, obviously, 1685 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,200 but particularly high leverage championship type of games. 1686 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,800 I want Lancery Chabot out there, I like him. 1687 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,200 I want Alvarado out there and I know so his so hand was out 1688 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,800 there last night a little bit. I like the aura, I like their 1689 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,280 depth, I like their bench. And again, last night was fun. 1690 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,320 Does it change anything? I mean, the goal is to still 1691 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,480 win. You know, you got Oklahoma City, 1692 01:20:08,480 --> 01:20:11,480 who's the defending champion, all right, You know, went in 1693 01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:13,360 battle back. You, you, you know, you had a 1694 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,040 chance with a couple of shots at the at the horn basically to tie 1695 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,760 it up. You didn't do it. 1696 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,400 I mean, is it we handed out second place prizes here. 1697 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,080 I'm not doing that. I need more than that. 1698 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:26,280 So there's no consolation prizes. 1699 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,280 There's no wow. Last night was, you know, I'm 1700 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,040 furthering. I'm emboldened to say that, you 1701 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,080 know, I believe more now that the Knicks are going to win the 1702 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,920 championship because they hung around and they battled the 1703 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,360 Champs. Big damn deal. 1704 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,680 You're supposed to that. That was what everybody thought 1705 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,920 that you would do this year, you know what I'm saying? 1706 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,440 That was reflected in the pre season betting odds in terms of 1707 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,840 winning the championship, getting to the Finals, obviously 1708 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,320 representing the Eastern Conference and the sheer volume 1709 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,360 of win totals. The Knicks were among the higher 1710 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,080 ones at every one of those four things. 1711 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:03,760 So you lost a good game, but you lost Jay Rod. 1712 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,000 Am I missing anything with these Knicks? 1713 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,200 You're a big basketball guy. No, I mean, you, you got it 1714 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,600 right there. I think a lot of people, you 1715 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,400 know, a lot of Knicks fans, I think with this loss, they're a 1716 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,800 little content. I think I've heard a lot of, you 1717 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,320 know, issues with the refs going down, which, you know, I don't 1718 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,440 want to hear. But listen, I think tough loss 1719 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:31,840 to the Thunder close game and it's one where, OK, you go, all 1720 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,400 right, we lost again to the Thunder. 1721 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,800 Can we get over that hump? But I think it's one where you 1722 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,440 lose by three. Mitch is out second night of a. 1723 01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:42,080 Back-to-back. You know what you can, you can 1724 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,440 hang your head down on this, but also you know that if this comes 1725 01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:49,520 to the finals, you got a chance. You got a chance, especially 1726 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,320 with Shay's, his health being a little iffy this season, at 1727 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,760 least if you're than it has been in the past. 1728 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,760 You know, I'd say you can walk away going if everything goes 1729 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,880 right. If we have a Celtics 2024 Finals 1730 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,560 run where everyone gets hurt on the way there and once we get to 1731 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,520 the Finals, it's a little bit of a diminished squad like The 1732 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,400 Mavericks were. The Knicks have a shot. 1733 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,400 That is my thought. You know what? 1734 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,080 Everything. It's got to be the Wizard of Oz, 1735 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,720 Golden Brick Road for them. Like it's got to going to be 1736 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,160 everything's kind of got to work out in this perfect way, kind of 1737 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,120 like it did for the Celtics in 24. 1738 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,600 And if that happens, I think they've got a shot. 1739 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,920 That's my take away. OK, listen, I respect that. 1740 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,080 I'm not going to push back too much. 1741 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,400 I think that that's well thought out. 1742 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,360 I think you laid out well, and I think that for the most part, 1743 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,400 you're right. But to me, that's also a bit of 1744 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,840 a referendum on Leon Rose. I mean, you shouldn't need the 1745 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,280 Golden brick. What you call it the Golden 1746 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,800 Brick Road, The Wizard of Oz. Yeah, the yellow brick road. 1747 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,520 The yellow brick road. And not everything needs to be 1748 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,240 like synchronized, synchronized in perfect harmony for the 1749 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,560 Knicks to win a championship. It might be true, but it 1750 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,520 shouldn't be that way. When you gave up five first 1751 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,840 round picks for Bridges and he did all the things that you did 1752 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,800 and you change coaches. Like it shouldn't be a Hail Mary 1753 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:04,040 type of a, you know, 4th and 17 to win the championship if you 1754 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,040 built the team, but a championship type away. 1755 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,600 No, I mean, definitely not. You know, it. 1756 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,280 It should be a kind of thing where the Knicks have a steady 1757 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,360 grip, where they're actually looked at, as, you know, before 1758 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,200 the season as one of those top three title contenders, which I 1759 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,640 don't think this season they were. 1760 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,040 I don't think they were in, you know, I think they were in that 1761 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,800 echelon of teams who could make it. 1762 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,040 How many? Top what? 1763 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,080 Top what? So if they weren't top, top 1764 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:28,880 what? Give me a number. 1765 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,800 Five, I'd go. They were, I'd go, they would 1766 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,080 probably go into the season. They were probably the fifth 1767 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,200 team with the with the most likely. 1768 01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:38,720 But understand this film. So I I I agree with certainly a 1769 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,040 couple of teams out West. So automatically that pushes it 1770 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,360 out, you know, to that 345 window. 1771 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,800 So I, I think that your window of five is probably right. 1772 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:50,160 But now it's easy to to be married to what's happening now. 1773 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,960 Pistons have thumped them, you know, but think about what we 1774 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,760 were saying before the year. Knicks will not have a chance to 1775 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,960 do this with these circumstances again, because the Pistons are 1776 01:23:59,960 --> 01:24:02,800 still a little young. Probably not before the year, 1777 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,640 probably not ready. No, Jayson Tatum, you know, 1778 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,120 Magic are young. They've had a lot of Magic are 1779 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,640 young, not quite yet ready. Pacers don't have halibut like, 1780 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,120 so go back to the mindset and the the thought of where the 1781 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,680 Knicks were in the pecking order and what what they were supposed 1782 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,240 to do in October and now juxtapose it to now. 1783 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,600 And to me, there's been an element of underachievement. 1784 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,520 I think that that's undeniable. I, I, I think that you can 1785 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,600 totally agree with that because, you know, looking at the 1786 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,760 landscape before the season, I mean, you're right, no one 1787 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,600 expected, I mean, for the, with the Pacers, you know, people 1788 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,840 obviously expected them to kind of have a fall off. 1789 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,680 I think with the Celtics, no one expected them to be the two 1790 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,320 seed. I heard people saying maybe 1791 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,120 they'd be six or seven seed. I think you thought Cleveland 1792 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:50,000 even before the hardened trade was going to be in that top kind 1793 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,120 of spot, you know, with the other two falling. 1794 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,480 I agree they haven't done that. And so, you know, I guess the 1795 01:24:55,480 --> 01:24:58,560 thought was the Knicks would be that one seed, you know, and 1796 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,160 they would kind of go all the way, not have an easy Rd. 1797 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,160 You know, they'd be challenged by Cleveland. 1798 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,320 But yeah, I think you're right. I think it you could look at it 1799 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:12,480 as an underperformance, but also I think I think come playoff 1800 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:15,120 time is when this Knicks team will really, you know, show 1801 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,760 their true colors would be my. Thought I hope you're right. 1802 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,600 Add got to under score 222 Brunson's top when the Knicks 1803 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,560 are in the playoffs. They're true, true, but But that 1804 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,920 doesn't eliminate his deficiencies. 1805 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,440 You know, I I don't love his shot selection this year. 1806 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,200 That's why I I had to make sure I get that out a little bit 1807 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,240 today because I don't want it to be all about cat and I don't 1808 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,800 want to, you know, teeter on the unfair part of the conversation 1809 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,680 here, because I do think cats been on a really good run and 1810 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,480 he's changed his role and he's embraced it. 1811 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,760 He's now he should get more shots, but that's a a Mike Brown 1812 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,040 Brunson thing. He's not getting as many shots. 1813 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,240 He does seem very engaged, animated defensively. 1814 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,720 He's made some adjustments. He's rebounding that nine 1815 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,200 offense rebounds 8 or 9 in in in round 17. 1816 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,640 So a matter of fact, right now I got no beef with Cat. 1817 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,680 There's nothing for me to say about Karl Anthony Towns cuz 1818 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,560 again, I'm not just in the business of saying something and 1819 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,400 remaining married to it. I'm in the business of evolving. 1820 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,440 Now, I still don't think that they win the championship 1821 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,280 because I don't think the Cat and Brunson and and and Mike 1822 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,120 Brown etcetera, all the things I've said, I don't think that 1823 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,240 they're capable of playing that high a level basketball for 1824 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,960 multiple months in a row, which is what's required to win a 1825 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,720 championship. But that doesn't mean, number 1826 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,920 one, that I hope I'm wrong, which I desperately do. 1827 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,960 And and also that that I can't sit here and say cats balling, 1828 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,400 cats playing his ass off. And it's good to see. 1829 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,280 It's good to see man, but the brunt So but the Brunson stuff, 1830 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:42,440 because he's so magical and because he left money on the 1831 01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:46,080 table and did the Knicks a solid with the team friendly deal. 1832 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,360 That's going to change in a couple years, obviously, But you 1833 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,360 know, he was very selfless in in the sacrifice there. 1834 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,280 We recognize that. You know, he's an easy leader. 1835 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,800 He you know, he's just he's a great nick already, I think, and 1836 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,200 he he doesn't like the body language and some of his 1837 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,560 deficiencies aren't as identifiable as cat. 1838 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,400 And so some of the things with cat drive us nuts and we react 1839 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,880 to that. But I do think on some level 1840 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,040 Jalen Brunson has been getting a bit of a pass this year. 1841 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:12,520 I don't think he's had his great. 1842 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,520 I I, I just gave you the numbers without even looking at him. 26 1843 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:20,600 and a half a game, 37% from 346% overall, 8283% for the stripe. 1844 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,960 He's gonna, you know, it made the All Star team all that great 1845 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,400 stuff. But has Jalen Brunson to me been 1846 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:33,280 as adaptable as I would like to see him getting others involved? 1847 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,760 No, he's he has not been. And until he does that, if he 1848 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,960 does that, I think that the ceiling is what it is for the 1849 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:43,120 Knicks. Probably a a tough, well fought, 1850 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,000 grueling second round exit or maybe the Eastern Conference 1851 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,560 exit, You know, and I by the way, Jay, hold on, Jay. 1852 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,840 I also depending upon who they play in round one. 1853 01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:58,960 That is not going to be easy. I mean, So what would be a team 1854 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,400 that would maybe scare you in in a round one? 1855 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,240 But like the Hornets, I guess, yeah. 1856 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,320 Well, I mean, I would be really be scared by them, but it 1857 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,280 depends where the Knicks finish. I mean, right now, I mean, you 1858 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,160 know, they could finish two, they could finish three, they 1859 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,720 could finish four. I'd have to double check to see 1860 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,960 if they could drop to five. I I you know, I don't want them 1861 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,600 to, but they're going out West. You know, they're they've got 1862 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,880 some tough games coming up. You play the Thunder. 1863 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,440 Remember, I pointed out the other day here on a leash that 1864 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,760 this is the week that's going to tell me, all right, where, where 1865 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,680 are we going here? You know, you got to get out 1866 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,600 West. The Lakers that Sunday playing 1867 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,320 Denver, you played OK C you had the layup the other night with 1868 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,040 the Raptors. You should have won that game. 1869 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,200 Good. But we're going to learn a lot 1870 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,960 more about them. I I don't might listen. 1871 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,320 My opinion has not changed. My opinion has changed a little 1872 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,560 bit on cat for the good, but in totality, my opinion has not 1873 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,280 changed on these Knicks. I wish it would, but it has not. 1874 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:52,600 All right, let me get to this as well. 1875 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,320 So was talking about Kyla Murray the other day and another name, 1876 01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:01,280 whether it's, you know, whether it's The Jets, whether it's the 1877 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,320 Dolphins, whether it's the the Vikings, whether it's the 1878 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,360 Browns, lesser extent, the Cardinals, obviously, because 1879 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,120 Murray's going to be gone, though they still have percent. 1880 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,640 You know, Tua's the name that you now start to hear a lot 1881 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,400 about. And you know, I saw this report, 1882 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,840 The Jets quote, reportedly are doing their work on Tua. 1883 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,440 All right, See what kind of guy a teammate he is and all that 1884 01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:23,200 stuff I have seen. I've already done all my work. 1885 01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,360 It's called watching him play. That's all the work that I need. 1886 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,520 And I'm not remotely interested in Tua. 1887 01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,320 Just not don't want him, don't need him not appealing. 1888 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,160 He's got a weak arm. He never plays well when it's 1889 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,320 cold out, can't throw the ball down field. 1890 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,200 And and I say this with great sensitivity, but that concussion 1891 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,240 issue is terrifying. Why the hell would you want Tua? 1892 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,680 Like, what is he going to do to change the the building for The 1893 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,320 Jets? Now, Kyler Murray very well 1894 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,880 might not change the building either, but Kyler Murray's 1895 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,640 simply more talented than Tua. Like if you're getting somebody 1896 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,480 on the vent min, which they're going to do Jimmy Kyler Murray 1897 01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:01,040 10 times out of 10 over Tua. What is the appear with Tua Tong 1898 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,760 of Aloha? I, I, I, I don't know. 1899 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:10,160 I mean, he is just, I watch him play and even when it's 79 and a 1900 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,320 little humid down there in Miami, I just don't like the way 1901 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,720 he throws the ball. What the hell is he going to do 1902 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,680 up in New England? I mean, he could just look at 1903 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,400 his record because he's been in this division. 1904 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,520 What is he going to do up in Buffalo, up in New England at 1905 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,160 MetLife from Halloween on? It's not going to do well. 1906 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:30,360 I mean, throws if he were a pitcher, right, if he didn't hit 1907 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,680 his spots, he would be absolutely tattooed. 1908 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,640 Meaning, you know, he ain't throwing 100, he ain't throwing 1909 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,920 97, he ain't not even throwing 95. 1910 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:44,480 To me, Tua has about a 92 mile per hour fastball, Not in No 20 1911 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:48,600 and not in 1979 or the 80s when I was watching ball, or even the 1912 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,720 90s when I first started watching Ball to. 1913 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:56,080 His fastball is like a 92 now. Which means that the disparity, 1914 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,720 the massive gap in his ability to just let it RIP and just cut 1915 01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,600 through wind and cut through elements compared to his peers 1916 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,920 is woefully, woefully less than optimal. 1917 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,240 Not interested, Don't want him. I don't even want him for 1918 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:10,960 $3,000,000. I just don't want him on the 1919 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:12,600 team. I don't think he's that good, 1920 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:17,160 you know, and I ran through some numbers with Kyler Murray that 1921 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,840 were not very favorable. Warren Sharp had some incredible 1922 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,240 deep dive. I don't have it in front of me 1923 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,840 and it's probably over here with the rest of my notes. 1924 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:28,480 But the short version was 25 yards or more, 20 yards or more, 1925 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:32,320 15 or more increments of five, obviously down to 10 yards or 1926 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,640 more. He was either the worst rated 1927 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:40,400 like 32 out of 32 or as, as some of those other ones like move 1928 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,560 past 32 based on the amount of attempts, you know, 3036 out of 1929 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,280 41 in terms of yards per 10th and completion percentage. 1930 01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,160 He too can't throw the ball down the field. 1931 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,880 But to me that's more of an accuracy thing. 1932 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,520 He's got a good arm. He's he's throws the ball some 1933 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,360 zip and he he's, I know he's had some injuries as well, but I'm, 1934 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,360 I'm less concerned with his injuries than I am with Tua. 1935 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,120 You know, I, I don't know man, Tua. 1936 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:09,360 This is a side like, if I was Tua and I was his dad, I, I 1937 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,160 would just beg him to stop playing football. 1938 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,680 I really would. He's got generational wealth, 1939 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,560 right? And all you have to do is invest 1940 01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,640 properly with what he's already made. 1941 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,800 And I'm sure he is because he comes from very humble 1942 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,480 background. I met his parents, me and Teek 1943 01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:28,440 met him, met his whole family. We had two on our show at one of 1944 01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:30,520 the Super Bowls. I forget where we were, maybe 1945 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:31,760 Indianapolis. I don't know. 1946 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,720 He just finished his rookie or he's no he's getting ready to 1947 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,400 get drafted and what an incredible young man. 1948 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,360 I mean you the bond that he has with his family, with his dad, 1949 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,920 with his mom, with his siblings, incredible pride for his land, 1950 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,080 which is beautiful. I mean that guy's a warrior. 1951 01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,400 Like everything about Tua I respect so I I don't mean I'm 1952 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,040 not trying to just dump on him as a football player, but I got 1953 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,120 to separate the two. I don't think he's good enough. 1954 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,520 I don't think he's good enough. That's me with my analysis. 1955 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,480 He's not going to elevate The Jets and on four and now 1956 01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:06,200 everybody's one shot away from being out in the NFL. 1957 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,200 But he's much more susceptible to that because some of his 1958 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,000 concussions have been fairly benign. 1959 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,160 And again, if I was his dad and I, you know, as as hard as it is 1960 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,840 to get somebody, especially football, you know, to strip off 1961 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,320 the helmet, strip off the pads, because that young man is a, he 1962 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,960 is a warrior. And it, it just built into his 1963 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,080 culture. It's built into his DNA. 1964 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:32,200 I've got profound respect, not even as high a level of respect 1965 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:36,200 as you can have for dude because he is, he is that kind of 1966 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,360 competitor. I would be begging him to stop 1967 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,400 playing. You know, you only get so many 1968 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,960 redos with the concussion. You have one or or two, you 1969 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,040 know, even 3 overtime spaced out. 1970 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,480 But some of the way and and there's varying degrees, 1971 01:33:49,480 --> 01:33:52,480 obviously, but the way he's looked when he's lost, like 1972 01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:55,240 functional control with his hands, like I mean, that is as 1973 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,080 scary as it gets. So I would be begging him to 1974 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,200 stop playing football. That's his family dynamics from 1975 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,680 a football perspective. If I'm running The Jets, whether 1976 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,840 I'm Woody or a Mooji or Glenn, I'm not pursuing them. 1977 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,400 I'm not saying don't do your due diligence. 1978 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:09,800 Fine. You going to do that with 1979 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,400 everybody. You know, it's a Cashman term. 1980 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,200 Do your due diligence, do it, do it, do it. 1981 01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,920 But I would be stunned one, if The Jets are are really 1982 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,880 interested if it's anything beyond the exploratory phase and 1983 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:24,560 certainly 2 if they actually got him. 1984 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,040 And and I would I would I would not like that at all. 1985 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,600 Have to be encouraged with the next D in the rebound. 1986 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,040 The rebound has always been great, but now we'll figure it 1987 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,040 out. Their defensive scheme. 1988 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,320 Yeah, they were plus 15 field goal attempts last night. 1989 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,000 That's how you win games most of the time, No question about it. 1990 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,440 I I mentioned that there are a really good defensive team like 1991 01:34:42,440 --> 01:34:44,800 the numbers bear that out. I still don't really consider 1992 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,880 them a a great defensive team because of the deficiencies with 1993 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:53,800 foot speed and size with Brunson foot speed and maybe instincts 1994 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,800 with Cat. You know that that that pick and 1995 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,280 roll and just how they attack some of those soft spots. 1996 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,320 They've made some really good adjustments. 1997 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:05,640 They really have and and and they signed too. 1998 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,400 I'm not going to watch next year at slay under score kids. 1999 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:09,400 Yeah, you will. Yeah, you will. 2000 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,600 Stop the nonsense, dude. You're gonna watch. 2001 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,080 I know what you mean. You don't want him. 2002 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:14,960 So you're probably just saying that to prove a point. 2003 01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:21,280 There is not one person unless it's Rudy and it unless it's 2004 01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:23,760 unless it was rooted in something political. 2005 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,040 You're going to watch like I've got I've actually got friends, 2006 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:31,560 you know, and I know people who have you know who I don't know 2007 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,160 who big sports fans, devout sports fans who have stopped 2008 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,920 watching certain sports based on, you know, the infusion and 2009 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,560 and of politics, whether it's from a commissioner or players, 2010 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,080 whatever. I mean, it's certainly a 2011 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,800 prerogative. I mean, but you're going to keep 2012 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,000 watching. Don't tell me you're not going 2013 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,160 to watch. I mean, The Jets could draft 2014 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,240 somebody. The Jets could start Brady Cook 2015 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,280 week 1 and you're watching. The Jets could get to and you're 2016 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:55,960 watching. You can kick and scream. 2017 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,200 You don't want Kyla Murray. There's no way he's not worth 2018 01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,480 it. Kyla Murray comes to The Jets 2019 01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:01,560 starts weeks, one weeks, one week one. 2020 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,560 You're going to watch. You're going to what else you 2021 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,680 can do, you're going to go apple picking. 2022 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,440 That's what me and Sally used to talk about. 2023 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:15,040 You know, apple, apple picking and pumpkin picking. 2 very 2024 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,360 enjoyable things. But there's an expiration point 2025 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:19,920 on that. That is what you do with the 2026 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:24,120 kids when they are real little, you know, I remember we went to, 2027 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,600 there's a lot of farms in New Jersey with the apples. 2028 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,520 We would actually pick eggplants and, and then I'd cook them up, 2029 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,480 have to cook them in a while. I gotta, I gotta actually get 2030 01:36:32,480 --> 01:36:34,400 some. And then we go to the pumpkin 2031 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,440 farm, get the kids pumpkins for Halloween. 2032 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,080 And you'd pull them in this little wagon, you know, and 2033 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,440 you'd have apple cider and stuff. 2034 01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:42,120 And it's, it's incredibly awesome. 2035 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,640 It's a rite of passage as a young parent. 2036 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,480 But you couldn't pay me to do that again. 2037 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,040 You couldn't, you couldn't pay me to do it. 2038 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,200 And when I laugh with the oh, I'm not going to watch The Jets. 2039 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,520 You know, I'm not going to say I'm not going to watch The Jets 2040 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,320 until Woody sells the team or, you know, that's it. 2041 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,840 I'm done with the Yankees. As long as how, which is unfair 2042 01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,640 because he's not cheap. Remain cheap or Cashman still 2043 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,520 there. Some of that is fair with cash 2044 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,120 or boom, whatever. I'm not watching the Yankees. 2045 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,280 Yeah, you will. It's a bunch of nonsense. 2046 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,840 And you know why? It makes you feel better 2047 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,040 temporarily, but you're going to watch. 2048 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,720 So cut the nonsense. You know, I read the tweet slay. 2049 01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,320 You don't mean it and you know I'm right. 2050 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,040 You know I'm right. J Rod, do you know anybody in 2051 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:26,400 your circle, tight, tight, close knit circle or even, you know, 2052 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:31,680 just a passing whatever broader circle of friends or associates 2053 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,320 that has said they're not going to watch a sport because 2054 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,800 something and then actually sticks to it and doesn't watch 2055 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,720 the sport? You know what? 2056 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,640 No, no, no, of course not. Because it's just like you're 2057 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,280 not going to give up like a, a routine, part of your 2058 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:51,520 entertainment just due to like some, you know, just due to some 2059 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,280 what's the word disagreement with the front office or 2060 01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,720 something like that. Like I just think for people 2061 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,880 like obviously watching sports is part of your routine. 2062 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,600 It's part of your daily habits. You're gonna you're gonna change 2063 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,400 that just because you know, this happened or the other. 2064 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,200 No, you kidding me? Hold on. 2065 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:10,440 This is interesting. Hold on. 2066 01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:11,640 I was just doing that. I hear you. 2067 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:13,880 I I got you on that. All right, So this is gonna be 2068 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,120 even tougher than I thought. Rogan has said, I guess, 1000 2069 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,720 times or 100 times. If you try to get on and ask, he 2070 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,160 usually doesn't invite you. Yeah, I can imagine. 2071 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,240 This is gonna that's what I mean. 2072 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,800 This is gonna be like a long like this is like a long winded 2073 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:31,680 scheme where like you on this show, you say some sort of 2074 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,560 statement that catches the eye of Rogan. 2075 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,920 Then you build up a mutual friendship with somebody who who 2076 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,080 is friends with Rogan. You then go, hey, you see this 2077 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,160 clip, huh? You know, maybe Joe would love 2078 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,000 it. And then Joe sees it, and he. 2079 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,520 Brings well, but OK. But I hope there's limits to 2080 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:49,880 that. I can't be doing my show based 2081 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,000 around whether or not Joe Rogan's going to hear something 2082 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:56,760 and like it and say, oh, OK. We're going to just it's just DT 2083 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,040 unleash you now just going to switch to like an alien 2084 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,720 conspiracy theory channel. Just going, yeah, you know, I'm 2085 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,960 hearing, I'm hearing rumblings that from Krypton, you know? 2086 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe, my Joe. 2087 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,960 Life found and we ain't begging here, man. 2088 01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,480 I mean, I would go I'd pay them away. 2089 01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:13,880 As I said, we ain't begging to get on anybody's show. 2090 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,000 Now what what you need to do though, and this would I'll read 2091 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:18,520 this in a SEC. You've got to or you could get 2092 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:19,200 that down. Please. 2093 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,240 You can be ultra creative here, Jay. 2094 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,280 See, this is how you got to work in this business, right? 2095 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:25,760 This is how your mind has to work. 2096 01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,880 You just got to think about you got to think like this 2097 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,720 instinctually. So I threw out the challenge. 2098 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:33,440 If you guys are just tuning in, I did not divulge the 2099 01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:35,520 denomination. Maybe I will privately. 2100 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,440 I'm I'm going to have to privately to J Rod, right? 2101 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,560 If he gets me on Rogan's show, which I don't think he can. 2102 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,560 I don't think he's I don't think he's going to be able to do it. 2103 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,600 If he gets me on Joe's show, I'm going to give him X amount of 2104 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,000 money bonus right, in addition to what he gets paid weekly here 2105 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:51,160 on the show. Now you're probably processed as 2106 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,720 you just laid out, you know, let's get some clips and get it 2107 01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,480 to people who know Joe and then be OK. 2108 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,360 But what you could do? This would be the more 2109 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,600 unconventional route, but probably. 2110 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,840 A better route to actually get me on his show is for you to 2111 01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,600 reach out to him and get him on our show. 2112 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:12,080 And then once he's on our show, then the reciprocation is much 2113 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,000 more inclined to happen. This is how you got to think, 2114 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,560 Jay. Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, 2115 01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,320 we'll get Rogan on on leash. He'll talk about his favorite. 2116 01:40:20,440 --> 01:40:22,400 I mean, listen, he was a Jets guy. 2117 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,640 He has spoken about that before. I know he's, I mean, he's he, he 2118 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,840 hates football, which would be an interesting thing for you 2119 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,960 guys to talk about too. Like despises American football. 2120 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,040 And why the? What's the reason for that? 2121 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:39,480 He calls it like fake fake fighting, like fake real men's 2122 01:40:39,480 --> 01:40:43,760 sports, like the only sport to him that truly showcases 2123 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,080 dominance is martial, is martial arts. 2124 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:51,400 And like true physical fighting domination, he feels like NFL 2125 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:56,240 football is like a fake. You know, like I got you a sport 2126 01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,280 that doesn't show a true male to male domination. 2127 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,600 I got he's a beast man. I mean that that martial arts 2128 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:06,160 stuff's a real thing. That's why, Hey, listen, never. 2129 01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,840 I mean, if you're walking around picking fights at at as an 2130 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,560 adult, you're you're almost hopeless, but always understand. 2131 01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,120 You know, it's usually the quiet dude who was not saying much 2132 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:20,200 laying in the cut and you're going to take that quietness or 2133 01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:24,840 or just being a little a less aggressive maybe as an 2134 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,760 invitation to push the envelope. Generally the guys who weren't 2135 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,200 woofing. Now I thank God I haven't had a 2136 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:31,880 fight in forever and I hope I never have one. 2137 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,480 I don't plan on having one, but keep that up the rest of my 2138 01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:37,080 life. But the guy who's woofing, yo, 2139 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,560 let's go, let's go, yo, get, come on, let's go, hold me back, 2140 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,440 you know, tugging at his shirt, all that bullshit. 2141 01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,040 That guy can't fight. The guy who's just, you know, 2142 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,040 kind of like this guy and everything is ready, whether 2143 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,640 it's a chop to the neck or take it out a knee or do whatever 2144 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,160 you're doing. That's the guy that can 2145 01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:55,640 literally kill you if you wanted. 2146 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,040 You know, Rogan's a beast with that stuff. 2147 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,240 I mean, I disagree with his take on football. 2148 01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,200 It's not like it's not soft. You want to tell me it's softer 2149 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,480 than it used to be fair. You want to tell me martial arts 2150 01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:10,320 or MMA and all that stuff? Hand to hand combat, much more 2151 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:11,760 threatening and tougher than football. 2152 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,640 Agreed. But yeah, Joe, maybe this is how 2153 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,560 I get on Joe. Maybe I just called Joe out. 2154 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,440 Exactly. And maybe this makes the waves. 2155 01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:22,880 Hey, Joe, you want to fight? We don't. 2156 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,400 We don't want that for sure. All right, a super. 2157 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,320 Can you read that handle? That's a long one, man. 2158 01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:33,880 Super Gaming Chill Bros 6643. Good job. 2159 01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:35,960 Hey BT been following you since 2019. 2160 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,520 Got me through a lot during Kovid. 2161 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,200 Nice that was that was a wild period. 2162 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,280 My God, doing shows with Kovid and with Tiki and no sports to 2163 01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:45,240 talk about. My goodness. 2164 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,160 As for the quarterback conversation for The Jets, I 2165 01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,640 think it's a smokescreen. I don't know exactly how they're 2166 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,040 going to address it. Yeah, I listen. 2167 01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,200 I appreciate that. Very nice of you, very generous 2168 01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,320 of you. And I've heard that a lot. 2169 01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:00,040 And and by the way, you guys helped get me through COVID as 2170 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,440 well. Because you're trapped like, so 2171 01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:04,240 this was always the outlet to get on the air. 2172 01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,160 Tiki and I were on for four, wait three hours of three. 2173 01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,760 Me and Sal were four, me and Tique were were three and on the 2174 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:12,720 fan, me and Tique were 4. But nationally, when we were 2175 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,840 doing it during COVID, it was it was 3 and it was, I mean, it was 2176 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,920 freaking brutal, man. There, there was just nothing to 2177 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,160 talk about. I mean, yeah, I we don't have to 2178 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,000 get the COVID, but yes, understood. 2179 01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,120 Understood. The Jets quarterback situation 2180 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,800 to me. See, I think This is why I get a 2181 01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,640 really good feel about Muji here, and I have for a minute is 2182 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,840 that #1 there's not a lot of leaks within The Jets building. 2183 01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,840 It seems like they sealed some stuff up and that's been a 2184 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:43,880 problem forever. Right #1 #2 you know, he's 2185 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,800 involved in, yeah, a little bit of everything here. 2186 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:48,920 Yeah. Maybe a little Kyler Murray. 2187 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,400 Yeah, maybe. I mean, I, I would be OK with 2188 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,320 the on the cheap, but I mean, I'm not running to get Kyler, 2189 01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,360 but Kyler Murray. We'll do our homework on Tua 2190 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,640 Tana McKee out there with the Eagles. 2191 01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,560 Yeah, you know, see, babe, we got some interest in him is what 2192 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,040 you're hearing. Well, maybe the draft that I 2193 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,200 think I saw yesterday, The Jets are the favorites to draft Ty 2194 01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,440 Simpson. And maybe we'll we'll mess 2195 01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:13,000 around. We'll draft somebody. 2196 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:18,120 Jacoby percent, we like him. And maybe trade for Mac Jones, 2197 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,400 although I saw yesterday that Mac Jones gonna command a first 2198 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,120 round pick. Peace, man, peace out. 2199 01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,760 At least that's what the Niners were asking for. 2200 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,640 Now, I don't begrudge him for asking for that. 2201 01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,640 Ask what you want and then I'll decide if it's too much, too 2202 01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,880 rich for my blood and you know, I'll just walk away. 2203 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,600 Or you'll be further engagement and we'll set a lot of two or 2204 01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,120 whatever it might be or three that becomes a 2 or even maybe a 2205 01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,440 two that becomes A1, whatever. You ain't getting a first round 2206 01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:42,080 pick from Matt Jones. That sure as Hell's not 2207 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,880 happening. But I just think that there's a 2208 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,680 lot of not a lot of good opportunities, not a lot of good 2209 01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,680 options here for The Jets. I wish that there were. 2210 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:55,400 There's there's a couple of options that, you know, are OK, 2211 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,240 all right, we'll, we'll see. And you got the three first 2212 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,320 rounders for next year. And and, you know, whether it's 2213 01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,640 an arch or another quarterback, Dante Moore, who went back to 2214 01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,480 Oregon, who would have gone second this year. 2215 01:45:05,480 --> 01:45:06,880 I don't know if The Jets would have taken him. 2216 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,160 It probably would have maybe they would have traded out as 2217 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,920 well. But either way, I just think 2218 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,840 that there's there's a lot of interest in a lot of different 2219 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,560 avenues. And it does seem like The Jets 2220 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,640 are very busy. You know, they got the Breeze 2221 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,000 Hall thing done. I think a lot of people thought 2222 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,440 it was going to be maybe the transition. 2223 01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:25,920 It was the higher number, which surprised me a bit at 14.3 for 2224 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,280 the franchise. But that's just giving them a 2225 01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,920 window to to obviously work out a long term deal, which I 2226 01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,600 believe fully that they will. Now you got to carry that number 2227 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,440 until you actually get it. So it's going to count against 2228 01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:38,120 the cap as you jump in a free agency, blah, blah, blah. 2229 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,040 We got some. Breaking news. 2230 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,240 What do we got? What do? 2231 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:42,960 Is it good? Give me something good. 2232 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:46,960 J Rod, go. What do you got? 2233 01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,720 Wait, wait, wait, Kint, give me the sport. 2234 01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,800 Football. NFL is not. 2235 01:45:54,080 --> 01:46:01,480 Yet bills, Bills the Bills Hudson shit. 2236 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:03,720 Do you want me to just give it to you? 2237 01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,640 Let's. Hear it man, I want to hear. 2238 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,120 It Adam Schechter. I mean, the info isn't there 2239 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:13,240 yet, but DJ Moore is being traded to the Buffalo Bills. 2240 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,400 DJ Moore is pretty good player. He's solid. 2241 01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,800 OK, all right. I mean, I was hoping for 2242 01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,240 something a little more by scattering the NAP, but breaking 2243 01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:22,520 news nonetheless. There you go. 2244 01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,800 Who who gave it to us? Will someone in the someone in 2245 01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,720 the comments? Drop well so hold on a SEC, why 2246 01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,280 are the comments beating you to your job? 2247 01:46:30,440 --> 01:46:33,120 That's your job, dude. Oh, slay kids. 2248 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,520 Slay kids is quick. And then I I confirmed on 2249 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:36,840 Twitter, so there. We go. 2250 01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:41,120 So you confirmed a watcher and a a listener's text. 2251 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,600 So that's how the that's how the pecking order's going now. 2252 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,760 That's how J Rod does his job. Somebody does it for him. 2253 01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,640 And then he comes in. It's it's, yeah. 2254 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,920 It's like the meaningless report, you know, and it happens 2255 01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,360 all the time. Like, you'll get like Schefter 2256 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,120 or like a Rappaport. And I don't mean meaningless on 2257 01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:58,240 their end. Like they're legitimately 2258 01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,400 breaking the story. Garafolla, whomever. 2259 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,360 Like there's so many good people who cover the NFL and then like, 2260 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:09,120 I don't know, some writer for some city will confirm 9 hours 2261 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,120 left. So and so was able to confirm. 2262 01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:12,920 No shit. You know, the, the biggest 2263 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,000 people in the industry have it. You confirm nothing. 2264 01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,200 What did you confirm? You confirmed. 2265 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,720 And that's my, I mean, yeah, I'd love to know how the how that 2266 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:26,400 confirmation goes too. Hey, this is so and so from 2 2267 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:31,000 bit newspaper, you know, the, the, the the the X news. 2268 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,800 Yeah, You know, Schefter had it, Rappaport had it, this guy had 2269 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,120 it, Garifolo had it was on Good morning football. 2270 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,200 Stephen A was talking about it on first take. 2271 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,960 Can I just confirm is this true? I mean, that's I confirmed. 2272 01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:46,240 Come on. Oh wait, here's a little more. 2273 01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:49,080 Rogan got here with Stevo, he said. 2274 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,440 He's been to a lot of UT games. Make sense? 2275 01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:53,840 He's in Austin and likes football. 2276 01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:58,320 And wait, BT you don't believe in aliens? 2277 01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:02,120 I don't, I mean, I, I listen, I don't, I, I don't give that much 2278 01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:05,080 thought. I don't you know, what I believe 2279 01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,360 in is to get like to get serious for a moment and I'm not listen, 2280 01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,240 I don't know. I'm not here to denounce the 2281 01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:15,000 presence of I don't know enough about like I don't study a lot 2282 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,920 about aliens, OK. I follow world politics. 2283 01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:23,040 I follow the economy everyday. I follow sports, follow all that 2284 01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:24,800 stuff. I'm not going to mess around say 2285 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,000 there's no way aliens because I don't want anybody coming down 2286 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:31,000 here and abducting me. I don't What I believe in is 2287 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,160 what I believe in from a religious perspective. 2288 01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,520 Honestly, I'm not going to. I don't, I don't shove it down 2289 01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,760 anybody's throat. What I believe is what I teach 2290 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:43,120 my family, what my wife and I are in absolute accord on and 2291 01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,960 what we teach our kids that when, when we die, we're going 2292 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,120 upstairs and Jesus is waiting for us. 2293 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,440 That's what I believe. That's my entire family 2294 01:48:51,440 --> 01:48:55,640 believes, right. So the other stuff is, and that, 2295 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,080 you know, that's why as we get ready for Easter, you know, as 2296 01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,280 Christians, that's what the resurrection, you know, to me, I 2297 01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,320 mean, it's funny, we all get ready for Christmas when, when 2298 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,840 Jesus was born. But the, the app Easter is, you 2299 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,800 know, when, when the, the ultimate sacrifice, which really 2300 01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,120 is what Christianity's built on anyway. 2301 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,680 I, I don't really venture into that too much, but you better 2302 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,120 believe, I believe that the, the, the, the alien stuff, I 2303 01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,120 don't know, man, I, I, I just, I don't. 2304 01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,240 Do you believe in aliens? You do. 2305 01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:28,520 See it is tricky, OK? I'm a believer in everything. 2306 01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:32,720 Like I believe that everything is possible and that everything 2307 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,600 either has happened and or will happen just because of the 2308 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:40,720 infinite possibilities the universe, you know, continuously 2309 01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,400 expanding. Can I challenge? 2310 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:43,280 Wait, wait. Can I challenge you? 2311 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,520 For sure. Obviously, respect. 2312 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,320 In your opinion, that's a little bit of the easy way out. 2313 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:49,520 What do you believe? Of course it is. 2314 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,960 I believe in the possibility of everything. 2315 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,160 That's The thing is, I think I think on either side, you know, 2316 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:59,120 there's an easy way out where it's like, you know, either the 2317 01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:02,920 science side or the, you know, you, you end up hitting a point 2318 01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,760 where you go, I don't know, I don't know, I know where it goes 2319 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,760 further than this last point. My belief in aliens is just 2320 01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:12,400 like, I would love to believe that. 2321 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,280 And I do think that being a human being is like an 2322 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,880 incredibly special and unique experience. 2323 01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,120 I don't think, you know, I don't think there are any other 2324 01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:25,400 species like that, but I just it would be crazy to me to think 2325 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,400 that there's not at least one thing out there in the universe 2326 01:50:28,440 --> 01:50:31,440 other that's not at least maybe it's not speaking, but at least 2327 01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:34,400 moving, at least moving around. That would be my thought. 2328 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:40,000 Fair enough, fair enough. You know, thinking about this is 2329 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,640 this is weird. I admit. 2330 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,680 This is going to sound wacky and I thought about this a few 2331 01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,520 times, right? So, you know, we have our world 2332 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,640 and you guys subscribe to whatever religion you do and I 2333 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,080 respect it, right? Guys know where I stand on on 2334 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:56,360 what I believe and what I follow and I never shove it down your 2335 01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:58,120 throat. And I genuinely respect others. 2336 01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,320 Like that's, that's the way of of my world, right. 2337 01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,120 But I have thought sometimes I'm like, all right, so if they're 2338 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,320 and I don't mean God like that, I mean, if there's a greater 2339 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,280 existence above us, like alien form or whatever is going on on 2340 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,000 the planets, on certain planets, you can't exist based on the 2341 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,960 heat, based on the atmosphere, based on the lack of based on 2342 01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,760 the cold. Like I love the planets and I 2343 01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,200 love science. But imagine like, so we have our 2344 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,840 world and we look at ants and when we look at these little 2345 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,240 tiny bugs, they were like, all right, you know, we, we need 2346 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,080 them. They're part of the, you know, 2347 01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:28,640 the fabric of, of, of, of everything, right? 2348 01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,520 But is there a chance this is going to sound really crazy, 2349 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,200 man? Is there a ants? 2350 01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,080 But I'm going to stick with ants that ants have their little 2351 01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,240 world, right? And instead of just like, you 2352 01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,640 know, crawling around and looking for a little, little 2353 01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,160 remnant of food, you know, hop it on the, the ice cream stick 2354 01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,080 during the summer when you know, you got 9000 ants forming on it. 2355 01:51:48,440 --> 01:51:53,120 Is it possible that ants again in in their own vision, have 2356 01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,440 built out their own world underneath? 2357 01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:58,560 Like the Ant wakes up and wherever they make a little dirt 2358 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,400 tunnel like that's their version of Starbucks, Like they go on 2359 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,560 with their own and like everybody has maybe this will 2360 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,520 get me on Rogan. And they I don't really 2361 01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,120 necessarily believe it, but I thought like they've got to do 2362 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:11,920 something like they got to have some existence. 2363 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,960 Like, I don't know, do is there an, you know, baseball team? 2364 01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,160 Is there an or whatever sport ants play? 2365 01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:19,800 And they've got their little tiny stadiums and they've got 2366 01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,680 their little schools, and they go about their way because you 2367 01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:26,240 can't just crawl around all day with no purpose, can you? 2368 01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:30,360 No, I think it's AI think it's an interesting point too, 2369 01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,760 because you know, you'd like or not you'd like to believe, but I 2370 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:37,720 think as people we are, you know, predisposed to believe 2371 01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,440 that. OK most other animals, they're 2372 01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:43,880 kind of mindless, like they just kind of go about their routines. 2373 01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,440 They do their thing. They work off of, you know, 2374 01:52:46,440 --> 01:52:50,440 driven by sex, driven by food, driven by shelter and warmth. 2375 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:54,600 But there must be something in between those things that's con, 2376 01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:55,240 you know they. Don't. 2377 01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:57,600 They don't. Think in a language, but they 2378 01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:01,560 must think in some sort of images that guide them 2379 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,160 somewhere. I don't know if that's exactly 2380 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,160 lined up with what you're, what you're kind of saying, but like 2381 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:11,800 they must have a life that is more than just like I'm eating 2382 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:12,800 that. Just existed. 2383 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:14,960 Exactly, Exactly like there's, Yeah. 2384 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,920 Did you? I know you study I I know you 2385 01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:19,720 study journalism? Do you study philosophy at all 2386 01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,000 or do you? Have a second minor that was my 2387 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:22,640 minor. It was. 2388 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,560 There you go Look at it. Yeah, nice dude. 2389 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,960 I mean, not that I guess, shoot, not that that could get you a 2390 01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,920 job anywhere, but it was fun. I you know, I loved I loved the 2391 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,080 philosophy classes. I love just like talking about 2392 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,160 it, you know, just kind of throwing up the hypotheticals in 2393 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:39,920 class. Always, always a great time. 2394 01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:41,280 Probably, yeah. The funny thing about the 2395 01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:45,000 hypotheticals, right? So start wrapping up soon. 2396 01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,480 This is true, right? So you guys know I went to 2397 01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:48,720 Catholic school, right? Not only high school, but 2398 01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:52,600 grammar school. And I remember the, and not just 2399 01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,520 the religious thing, just a thing in general. 2400 01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,080 I have always had issues with hypotheticals, right? 2401 01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,560 Not that I denounce them entirely, I don't. 2402 01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,680 But I am an evidence man. Like I need a little bit of 2403 01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,600 proof. I am, I am in constant search of 2404 01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:07,920 of answers, right? I want to be able to prove 2405 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:08,880 things. If I'm going to believe 2406 01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:10,920 something, I want to have something rooted in the reality 2407 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:14,080 that can be traced back to something by somebody far more 2408 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:17,240 intelligent than me that is able to either prove it or disprove 2409 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:18,520 it, right? I'll give you an example. 2410 01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,440 I used to drive her nuts. She couldn't stand me. 2411 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:27,400 I had a nun in the 7th grade, Sister Connie, big scary. 2412 01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,520 And now my sister's three years older than me and she had my 2413 01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,760 sister, my sister's eight. My sister's getting like another 2414 01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,440 degree from Oxford University as we speak currently. 2415 01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,080 Wow. So proud of her. 2416 01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:40,560 Man. I don't know how we grew up in 2417 01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,360 the same house, like 10 feet down the hallway, her bedroom, 2418 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,640 my bedroom. She is the, she's the most 2419 01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,400 intelligent person I know. She's absolutely brilliant. 2420 01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:49,840 That's incredible. Yeah. 2421 01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,120 It I it's it's amazing. I don't know how she wants to 2422 01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:54,200 learn so much. I don't have that capacity 2423 01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,720 anyway. So I guess I had Sister Connie 2424 01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,440 like in the 5th grade when we start switching classes and she 2425 01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,200 had my sister for a bunch of years and I sister Connie taught 2426 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,840 religion and something else, maybe English. 2427 01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,280 No, that was sister. Either way, she taught 2 2428 01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:09,880 subjects and when I roll through, even though I didn't 2429 01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,280 have the best reputation at this point by the 5th grade in terms 2430 01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,440 of get in trouble, she thought well I had I had Tierney's 2431 01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:19,760 sister who's an Angel and an A + 9900 student. 2432 01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,600 This is going to be phenomenal. Exact opposite right? 2433 01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:28,200 And I remember, I remember that she like she would, I remember 2434 01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,360 we were talking about like the Beatitudes and, and some other 2435 01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,680 religious things. And I remember she was talking 2436 01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,840 about like the commandments and this basic stuff. 2437 01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:42,280 But she was trying to say about or communicate how either God or 2438 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,680 or maybe how God communicated to Moses with the 10 something like 2439 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,760 that. And she was stating it as fact 2440 01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,000 and, and I wasn't trying to be disrespectful at all. 2441 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,760 I really wasn't, you know, but I kept raising my hand and a lot 2442 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,320 of times in school I was a complete wise ass and always in 2443 01:55:58,320 --> 01:55:59,920 trouble. I wasn't doing that here. 2444 01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,640 And I was real. I raised my but sister Connie. 2445 01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,160 All right, I I believe you. But how do we know? 2446 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,920 How do we know that that was said to Moses or whatever it 2447 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,520 was? Like where's the proof? 2448 01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,560 She's like, well, it's in the Bible or it's in here or it's 2449 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,360 written into the attitudes or it's in the commandments. 2450 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,880 I don't know. And I'm like, I, I know, I know 2451 01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:22,800 that we can read it, but how do we really know you weren't 2452 01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,440 there? And I promise you, it was one of 2453 01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,480 the few times I wasn't trying to be a pain in the ass. 2454 01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:28,680 I really was inquisitive. Like I wanted to know the 2455 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:32,600 answer, but how do you know? Can you? 2456 01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,320 She got so frustrated because I don't know how you communicate 2457 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,440 to a pain in the ass 5th grader that you do know, like at some 2458 01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,840 point there's got to be a leap of faith, whether it's with 2459 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:46,840 faith or with aliens or as you deduce what's what's right for 2460 01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,200 you and wrong for you or inconclusive to you. 2461 01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:51,840 You know, I mean, it's going to be a point where you got to 2462 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,240 either accept it or not. And and and separating religious 2463 01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,840 from the other stuff. I just the hype because which I 2464 01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,200 which I do accept. There were the the hypotheticals 2465 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,000 about. And again, I'm not denouncing. 2466 01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:03,840 I don't, I'm I'm not going to say there's no aliens. 2467 01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:05,920 I don't know. And to me, there's not enough 2468 01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:10,080 proof for me to say that there are, but it's I need an answer 2469 01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:14,920 at the end of the day, I need a batting error, I need an OPS to 2470 01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:18,160 say this guys a great hitter, this guys a shitty hitter. 2471 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:22,720 You know, it's, I mean, it's a, like you said it, a lot of these 2472 01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:25,400 beliefs and a lot of these things like where, you know, 2473 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:29,160 there's no, not even just scientific evidence, but just 2474 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,800 even a word, you know, a word of mouth from someone, you know, 2475 01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,360 you know, you just got to go off faith, You got to go off what 2476 01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:36,360 you believe in. And I, I think that's the great 2477 01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,640 part of it is it, you know, it also kind of just like breaks 2478 01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:43,600 down what truth could be like, you know, what is true and what 2479 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:48,720 is not. Here's Clr 8810 ET phone Home. 2480 01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,120 I saw that in the movie theater. Have you seen ET? 2481 01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:52,400 You better of. Course, of course. 2482 01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,440 That's such a classic. Also, I saw these two comments. 2483 01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,680 These were just great. I mean, it was a couple people 2484 01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:01,520 just like BT. You're a goat. 2485 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:05,440 You motivated me to start my own podcast coming up on my 40th 2486 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,360 episode. And then here's another. 2487 01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,400 You inspired me to create my own podcast. 2488 01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,920 Spent a month learning OBS and how to record. 2489 01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,880 Thanks for the inspiration. That's awesome. 2490 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,440 Yeah, I thought that was so awesome. 2491 01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,240 I mean, that's great. No, that's, I love that stuff. 2492 01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:20,720 You know that that's that's awesome. 2493 01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,680 You know, and listen, I think there's a couple of things. 2494 01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,080 There's a line. Was it in, was it not in Donnie 2495 01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:27,880 Brasco? What? 2496 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,200 Carlito's Way? Carlito's Way, right. 2497 01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:33,160 Have you ever seen Carlito's Way? 2498 01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:35,040 I've I've heard of it, haven't seen it. 2499 01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,600 Yet you got to see. I'm that's. 2500 01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:40,920 Another way Brasco was good. You know, I like Brasco 2501 01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,520 Carlito's way. Hey, hit me up on the on the 2502 01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,640 text here Anybody loves Carlito's way. 2503 01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:49,800 My God, that was so good. And Pacino goes to, to Sean Penn 2504 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,840 at some point. He's like, you can't fake tough. 2505 01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,120 Like, you know, oh, you, you, you a tough guy now. 2506 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,960 Like he was trying to get involved in drugs and the mafia, 2507 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:58,720 doing all sorts of coke and crazy stuff. 2508 01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:01,000 And Sean Penn was caught up and he was like in numbers. 2509 01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:03,400 He was a geek. He was, he was a completely like 2510 01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,560 non, he was a numbers guy. He was, he was there for the 2511 01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,120 intellect, whatever, and his business prowess, not because 2512 01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,960 he, he was a hit guy or a mafia dude, but because he was hanging 2513 01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,200 around at the club and doing drugs and, you know, trenched 2514 01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,400 with, with, with Pacino. He thought he was a tough guy. 2515 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,520 And this was 1 scene where he goes, Oh, you think you're a 2516 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:21,280 tough guy now? You can't fake tough. 2517 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,840 Like he's like guy, you know, you're on the streets now, man. 2518 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,640 It is real. And you know, just like I'm 2519 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:29,560 saying that because some of those texts that you read, you 2520 01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:34,280 can't fake hustle, you can't fake hard work, you can't fake 2521 01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,240 commitment. So I mean, listen, I don't want 2522 01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,400 to overstate that I do a pre or overstate this. 2523 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:42,800 I do appreciate those texts. Hopefully you know there there's 2524 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:46,120 more out there where they've seen me quickly pivot from WFAN 2525 01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,600 and say screw it, I'm not taking this lane down. 2526 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:50,360 I'm way too good to deal with this nonsense. 2527 01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:51,960 No way. We're getting up and we're 2528 01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,080 getting out there and I don't care how it looks right away and 2529 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:57,000 I don't care that I'm not making a freaking penny right away. 2530 01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,200 We are building this thing into a monster. 2531 01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,520 And if that's been some inspiration for some of you 2532 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:03,560 guys, that makes me feel awesome. 2533 02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:08,760 Yeah, no, I mean, I'd say, I'd say, you know, you're you're 2534 02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:11,440 trailblazing. The thing here for a lot of 2535 02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,280 sports people like that. That's what I can say is like, I 2536 02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,840 think a lot of the fans, I think a lot of people in the sports 2537 02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:20,360 world right now, you know, they see this and, you know, they see 2538 02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:24,040 somebody who like you say 1,000,000 times, you know, you 2539 02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,320 know, a lot of episodes is like, you know, see someone who got 2540 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:32,280 thrown a huge wave of adversity came back and is now almost 2541 02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:35,640 emerging from it, a phoenix, you know, trying to be bigger than 2542 02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:36,840 he ever was, so. I There you go. 2543 02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:39,880 People really take that and and, you know, run with it. 2544 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,480 That means a lot that that's awesome. 2545 02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,520 All right there, homie. So, you know, start start 2546 02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:46,240 getting on the the Rogan pursuit. 2547 02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,720 Don't. Laugh. 2548 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:51,120 I mean, Oh no, no, laugh. It's going, it's going down. 2549 02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:54,080 I mean, we're today. Today we'll start devising the 2550 02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,880 plot. Yes, we will if you guys are 2551 02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:59,320 just too many of you know this, but if you missed the the 2552 02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:01,680 conversation with Michael, yes, a Michael K it's up on the 2553 02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:03,920 channel, it's in the library. Go check it out. 2554 02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:08,040 I'm going to definitely have on Don Le Greco next week and 2555 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,840 that'll be a a different kind of awesome conversation. 2556 02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:13,720 I've known Don as long as I've known Michael. 2557 02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,240 I you know, I always knew of Don's name and he was doing 2558 02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:20,720 updates WFA in a million years ago, sports phone before that. 2559 02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:24,800 But I met Don when I met Michael when I went to 1050 back in 2560 02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:27,600 2003. So, you know, I was so happy 2561 02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,200 when he got the the devil's TV job. 2562 02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:33,280 I mean, he loves hockey. He is a grinder and some of his 2563 02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,680 rants are all time. I'm going to see if I can get 2564 02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,400 permission, maybe play one of his rants and then have him 2565 02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,720 react to it. So we'll have a little fun with 2566 02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:44,000 Donnie and then we'll get Pitino up getting ready for the for the 2567 02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,560 tournament there sometime next week. 2568 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,600 Obviously laying the foundation. It's going to be a little 2569 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,960 tougher because the schedule's crazy with the travel and and 2570 02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:53,760 first take, we'll get Stephen A up. 2571 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:55,800 I want to get Boonie up. I want to get a rod up. 2572 02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:57,840 I want to get Sal back up for sure. 2573 02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:01,960 By the way, Speaking of BT and Sal 2 point O it is April 2nd. 2574 02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:06,880 It is out Mulcahy's in Wantagh. That's up on my ex account and 2575 02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:08,200 it's a direct link to the tickets. 2576 02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:10,360 We've already sold some. So if you guys want to jump in, 2577 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:13,760 I think it's about 2:50 now it's about 3:50 that are available. 2578 02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:17,080 So it's, it's a little smaller than the Vogel Theater that we 2579 02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:19,320 sold out in late January for the first one. 2580 02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:21,200 Fully expect this one to sell out as well. 2581 02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:23,680 I wouldn't wait too long. It's a whole meet and greet 2582 02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:25,560 package. Carl Banks is going to be there 2583 02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,520 with us. So you know, and, and, and 2584 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,240 obviously get the likes up, get the subscriptions up, get it out 2585 02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:32,800 there. We'll hit 18,000 maybe tomorrow, 2586 02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:34,920 certainly by the end of the weekend and Sunday. 2587 02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,680 One more reminder, Sunday at 6:00 PM. 2588 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:41,240 That's the target could be 5, but between 5:00 and 6:00 PM on 2589 02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:44,880 Sunday, I will drop separate content here on BT unleash my 2590 02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:48,400 all time Big East team as we get ready for what's my favorite 2591 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,440 week of the year. I absolutely love the Big East 2592 02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:53,920 tournament. So it was not easy coming up 2593 02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:57,240 with five starters going back to 1979 and all the way up until 2594 02:02:57,240 --> 02:02:59,200 now. So I got the five starters, I 2595 02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:00,840 got the head coach. The head coach was tough as 2596 02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,000 well. I've got the seven guys coming 2597 02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:05,960 off the bench from my act, my actual team and then I've got a 2598 02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:09,600 full 10 deep honorable mention. So most of the schools 2599 02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:11,640 represented, I think you guys will dig it. 2600 02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:13,160 Maybe. You know what, maybe I can get 2601 02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:14,520 Mullen on the show at some point. 2602 02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:15,840 I haven't talked to Chris in a little bit. 2603 02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,160 It's been a little while. I got to reach out and see if I 2604 02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:20,480 can get him up. But all good things to come. 2605 02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:23,600 Like it, subscribe it, get it out there, share it. 2606 02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:26,720 Obviously, the more traction we get, the more we can be done 2607 02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:29,960 with, the more that we can do. So have a great Thursday, go 2608 02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:32,520 check out the K spot. Check this out with the shorts. 2609 02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:35,240 J Rod's going to get him up later on and I will see you 2610 02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,280 tomorrow on a Friday. Hey, no rules Friday. 2611 02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:41,120 That's always fun. No rules Friday, 10 AM right 2612 02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:42,480 here on unleash. We'll see you peace.