1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,440 This is unleashed, are you listening? 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,600 Can you hear me? This is unleashed are you 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,720 listening? Can you hear me with? 4 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,560 Your call Unleashed. Are you listening to hear me? 5 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,640 This is Unleashed. Can you hear me? 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,560 What's happening to everybody? BT Unleashed in the house on 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,320 this Monday. Hopefully you guys had a great 8 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,480 weekend. Let's get answer. 9 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,040 We got a couple of good things for you today. 10 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Super Bowl stuff or more about the Super Bowl buzz. 11 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,200 We'll we'll get a little deeper into the game as we get a little 12 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,440 deeper in the week here. The Jets starting to hold it on 13 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,960 their OC spot, Little Mix and Lakers and some some LeBron 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,720 stuff from last night. I don't know about you. 15 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,920 Like I don't know if if it's that I'm at a different stage in 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,680 my life or that the Super Bowl has changed so much that my 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,160 interest in the Super Bowl is is this big? 18 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,920 It's minimal and it's minimal for a couple of reasons #1 and I 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,120 understand why they have to do it. 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,600 They have to do it based on the logistics. 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,720 But like the week off, to me, you just, you're in such a role. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,960 You got wild card. We got the end of the regular 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,320 season, some meaningful games, whether it's the Steel, those 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,680 Ravens and all that stuff, right? 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,280 Then you get wild card nuttiness, which I love. 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Then you get division around, which is great. 27 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,600 We got a lot of good games too. Then you get obviously 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,360 conference championship Sunday and then you get a whole week 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,960 off and it's like, and you got almost like get back into it. 30 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:23,000 And it's hard to like reignite those emotions. 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Like you're watching football month after month after month 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,680 after month after month. And then all right, we'll just 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,840 have the brakes a little bit. Go do some other stuff, You 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,840 know, watch some hockey. If you're into hockey, watch 35 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,520 some basketball, little college hoops, pro level, you know, a 36 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,480 little, a little WWE, whatever it might be, go do whatever. 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,640 Go skiing and then, Oh yeah, by the way, let's reconvene. 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,160 And now let's just get that that ferocious football feeling. 39 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,320 And if it's not a great match up, it's very hard for me to get 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,560 that that emotion revved up. I mean, of course I'm rooting 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,600 for Sand Arnold that that's a no doubter. 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Like go down. Like, if you're a Jets fan, if 43 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,800 you're a Jets fan and you're not rooting or you're rooting 44 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,400 against Sam because you, you like, you're jealous or I, I, I, 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,600 I really don't know what to tell you. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,440 I mean, the young man has been every time he's gotten a chance 47 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,920 to take a shot at The Jets and others have done it, obviously 48 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,840 and rightfully so. Absolute train wreck of a 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,720 franchise. But anytime Darnold's been asked 50 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,880 about them, he has always comported himself with such 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 class. So that alone, not to mention 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,600 just I think he's a pretty good player. 53 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Not to mention that it was it was more The Jets fault, not 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,520 his. I'm definitely rooting for Sam 55 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Darnold, not to mention the opponent here, and that's 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,480 obviously the Patriots. But I don't know, like to me 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,760 when I think about the Super Bowl, I need some sort of not 58 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,880 that I need it. That's a bit of an 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,800 overstatement, but I certainly desire, I certainly prefer some 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,400 sort of legacy element involved, like when John Elway was chasing 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,080 is going back a million years. But when Elway was first in his 62 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,200 chase chasing his first Super Bowl, obviously trying to 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,080 validate that that great career and punctuate that. 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,040 And even that's funny though, when John Elway was doing that, 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,560 we weren't wrapped up in these day-to-day conversations about 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,200 GOAT or legacy or hey, you have no championships. 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,240 You got to get as a quarterback, you got to get one. 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,800 Otherwise, you can't be, yeah, you can't be one of the best of 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,520 all time. Once you get 2 versus 1, you get 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,040 a little further separation there. 71 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,760 So it's become much more nuanced. 72 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,760 And a lot of the conversations are pretty interesting, but a 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,800 lot of them as well at the same time are redundant. 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,880 And it's kind of a rehashing of the old stuff. 75 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,120 At least this Super Bowl doesn't doesn't provide you with that 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,200 because Sam Darnold's either going to become a Super Bowl 77 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,760 champion or Drake May is going to become a Super Bowl champion. 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Now the feel good story is for me is Darnold, and that's also 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,520 personally driven and I can't stand the patriots there. 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,800 I I think I dislike the Patriots more than the Red Sox, like I 81 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,200 really do. And I they there's just a lot of 82 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,360 it's rooted jealousy. I admit that, like, you know, 83 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,760 they win all these championships. 84 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,040 They hit the reboot, you know, back-to-back four win seasons 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,280 and then they're back at the Super Bowl. 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,360 I'm like, my God, can I get a wild card? 87 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Can I sniff ten wins? Can he just give me a bone? 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,120 So I admit it's a lot of it's fueled by jealousy. 89 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,160 But the thing about at least from a a bigger picture item 90 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,240 like if you're looking about like the the NFL pantheon and, 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,320 and ultimately what could be down the road for somebody like 92 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,640 Drake May versus Sam Darnold. Well, I think it would be more 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,320 advantageous to have Drake may win because he's going to 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,720 finish, he's going to finish second in the MVP this year. 95 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,760 And if you're, you know, a top three pick, which he was and you 96 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,720 big you, you bag a championship this early in your career, Well, 97 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,120 now you're on a an early trajectory that does make future 98 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,080 conversations and big games and possible Super Bowl appearance 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,720 repercussions more applicable to the bigger ticket items like 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,240 those legacies. Like if Drake may gets one by 101 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,160 the age of 24, whatever he is 20, I think he's 24. 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,760 And you've got Mike Vrabel and you've got that franchise and 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,600 you've got a fairly watered down version of the AFC. 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Drake may provided the Patriots, and they probably will because 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,240 they're a good organization, provided they, you know, 106 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 insulate him properly and don't leave him out to dry and at 107 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,680 least give him a chance to win for the next 5-6, seven years. 108 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,080 You know, when I say win, be a consistent playoff team, maybe 109 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 one or two wild cards, one or two divisions. 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Like now you get to a point like where Drake made before, if he 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,400 wins this weekend before he's 30, you know, he might be 112 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,280 knocking on the door with a championship or two or two 113 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:36,360 championships and another Super Bowl appearance, which obviously 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,640 puts him in a very different category at that point. 115 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,720 It's just, you know, I don't know, like the layoff here is a 116 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,400 little unbecoming to me. Like, I'm already I'm already 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,120 more excited for St. John's, UConn, Friday night at 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,560 the Garden that I am for the Super Bowl. 119 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,240 And then the other element of this and you know, I don't 120 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,360 really know when this happened exactly. 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,400 And I'm not here to be, you know, did John Johnny 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,280 negativity, you know, or Mr. Downtrodden here. 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,280 But all the stuff around the Super Bowl I've just got no 124 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:10,320 interest for at this point. I mean, you couldn't pay me to 125 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,680 listen to Bad Bunny. Like if I'm in my car and I've 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,680 got, you know, a three hour ride and the option is Bad Bunny or 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,240 no music or anything and it's decent weather, I'd rather hear 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,240 the birds chirp and hear the highway, you know, pavement on 129 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,520 the highways. I'm going 75, whatever I'm doing 130 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:29,880 then Bad Bunny. I just not into it at all, don't 131 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,880 care. And I, I remember saying this a 132 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:39,080 while ago and I think it came across as like a like a little 133 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,960 bit of a out of touch statement with the reality of the modern 134 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,040 world, right. But I'm also just not now, I 135 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,120 don't know that he's going to do this. 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,640 I I heard he's going to wear a dress. 137 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,360 All right, go knock yourself out, whatever. 138 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,920 But some of these other acts over the years, I mean, they've 139 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,080 been incredibly salacious. And I remember my daughter, my 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,200 daughter who's now 9. I don't even want my son seen 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,720 that. But, you know, 6-7 years old. 142 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Yeah, you've got this, this risque presentation. 143 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,680 Who the hell needs that? I I mean, listen, you want that 144 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,920 stuff, go find it. There's a million outlets to 145 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,520 find it. Do whatever you want to do 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,760 behind closed doors. As long as everybody's 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,040 consenting, I don't care. I really don't. 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,160 But when you're sitting there with your family and you're 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,480 trying to watch the Super Bowl and you got these women, trust 150 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,800 me. I'm not saying to me, I don't 151 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,000 find it attractive. I'm not saying that at all on 152 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,760 some level. But you know, when you have 153 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,080 young girls and even impressionable young boys and 154 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,560 just not down with it, you know, gyrating, like fainting, licking 155 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,200 each other. What what are we doing, man? 156 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,040 This is what the Super Bowl has become and it's a real turn off 157 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,320 to me. So between the length of the 158 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,720 halftime before the not big between that, which just goes on 159 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,040 forever and any flow of the game is lost. 160 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,960 And it's like, OK, Oh, wow, there's that's right. 161 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 I'm I'm half, I'm half asleep. I've got 2 beers and I'll fall 162 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,560 asleep here. That's right. 163 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,240 The second-half of the Super Bowl is coming up between the 164 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,360 length and the attention to the other stuff that I just could 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,320 not care less about at this point of my life. 166 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,360 I don't even really think I cared about it that much when I 167 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,800 was younger. I really don't like even going 168 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,040 back to like Timberlake and Janet Jackson. 169 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,080 I think I liked it more than but I, I just, I'm looking literally 170 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,080 looking at the clock. I'm like, I, what is the third 171 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,640 quarter start? And there was a point let less 172 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,160 now, but there was a point where when everybody was fixated on 173 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 the on the screen, I'm just walking outside going on my 174 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 phone saying, all right, what other 8 or 9 bets, prop bets can 175 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,640 I place? I'm looking at lines like I'm, 176 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,400 I'm looking to win some money. I don't quite do that the way 177 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,840 that I used to. So I'm just sitting there bored 178 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,320 out of my frame and then the 7-8 hours, not that I watch it. 179 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,000 So I guess I really shouldn't complain because I do have the 180 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 option of watching it or not. But then he got 7 hours of 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,040 pregame show. I mean, how much do you need to 182 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,800 get ready for a game? And I'm not talking about the 183 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,800 globalization of football. I get that, all right. 184 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,640 It is a capitalistic society. And if you can make money and by 185 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:00,960 the way, just about, just about domestically, every area of 186 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,720 revenues been tapped into. So now you got to start bringing 187 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,120 in artists who obviously are appealing to different segments 188 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,280 of the world, which will lead to downloads and views and clicks 189 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,200 and money, The monetization of the sport. 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,200 I understand the business engine behind it. 191 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,320 I'm just, I just think the Super Bowl is largely played out. 192 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,560 And I've got the ten of them. I've got the 10 Super Bowls, 193 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:24,000 maybe even 11. And I was at that would have 194 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,680 been Super Bowl 50. The last time it was at Santa 195 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,800 Clara, I was out there with Tiki doing the national show. 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,160 I was doing a lot of TV at that point. 197 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,920 So I was very busy. We had the TV show at night, me 198 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,240 and Tik. We're doing our radio thing in 199 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,280 the in the day and I've enjoyed my like, again, I'm not trying 200 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,040 to be, you know, Joey Downer here. 201 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Every time I would go to the Super Bowl, I, I knew I was 202 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,920 going to work a lot because I was doing TV at night, radio 203 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,800 early. It was a busy juggle. 204 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,440 I loved it and it was, you know, a little bit of a pain in the 205 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,440 ass, like shipping 5 suits out there and all the things that 206 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,120 that's, that's a me issue, not you issue. 207 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,920 I'm just talking about how I used to view the Super Bowl, you 208 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 know, a chance to make, you know, make some contacts out 209 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,240 there, do radio Row and and we as at that point, CBS Sports 210 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Radio, like we were always separate from the massive 211 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,080 humanity that is Radio row. I mean, it's just the labyrinth 212 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,080 of muddiness. And quite frankly, the other 213 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,920 thing too is I got older and, and, and deeper in the not so 214 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,240 much an age thing, but deeper into the business. 215 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,960 I very quickly understood that Radio row radio is among the 216 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,720 most mind numbingly dumb and boring and waste of airspace 217 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,880 that you could possibly have. Yeah, let's get on so and so who 218 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,520 won the Super Bowl in 1977? And he's all the year to talk 219 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,000 about joint pain. What I mean, oh, let's welcome 220 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,040 this NFL luminary. He's here to talk about knee 221 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,000 replacement surgery. How are you So And so it's just 222 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,080 it's really now. And we were lucky because we 223 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,440 would get the the stars of the stars and we would say no to a 224 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,840 lot of people. And I remember, you know, last 225 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,200 couple of years, whether it was Brett Favre or or Jim Horribaugh 226 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:05,360 or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen or Sean Payton, like me and T 227 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,680 got a Lister. We we got him right, Tim Tebow. 228 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,600 And it was a lot of fun that it was cool, but I don't know, like 229 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,720 if I was just, and I am now just a regular consumer of the games, 230 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,240 I'm not there. So much about the game is 231 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 generally just a turn off to me. Now, again, I'm not trying to be 232 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,840 preachy here. If you don't want to, you know, 233 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,600 if you don't agree, that's fine. I'm not trying to interrupt 234 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,960 anybody's joy. I'm just telling you how I 235 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,280 process the Super Bowl now and it just doesn't feel the same 236 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,600 way. And I think this is part of it 237 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,120 as well at DNY Test. I appreciate that, buddy. 238 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,600 Matchups a factor. Bill's lines would hit 239 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,520 different. Yeah. 240 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,360 I mean, you want tell me Bill's lines, you can throw out three 241 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,160 or four other different combinations that might have a 242 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,440 little bit more appeal to me. But and no disrespect to to 243 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Drake may, who again, very well might, you know, win one or two 244 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,680 and get to 3, whatever it might be. 245 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,560 Drake based phenomenal. Drake May is a baller, right? 246 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Drake may the patriots have also had maybe my jet buy is shining 247 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:59,880 through here, but I don't think so. 248 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,760 I think that this Patriots run has been the easiest of any run 249 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,120 that of any team that's got into a Super Bowl, starting with the 250 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 division. I heard God, I would, I would, I 251 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,000 would tell you who I think honestly, I think it may have 252 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,360 been Craig. I heard on the radio, I think it 253 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,320 was at some point last week, I think it was Craig, where every 254 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,200 single game and if I mess up to an extent, a little bit of a 255 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,240 stat, but I'm going to give you the meat of it just to 256 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,680 illuminate how lucky and how easy the Pats had it every game 257 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:34,160 this year except one or two. And I think it may have just 258 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,840 been one the the Patriots were playing a team that wound up 259 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,520 going to they they fired their coach. 260 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,080 So you play 17 games, I think 15 of them was that. 261 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,520 And then like one or two others was the last place team or 262 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,800 something like that where they didn't fire them. 263 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,720 It's like, you know, and then you get to the playoffs and it's 264 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,800 like, I don't know. And there were some great games 265 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,240 in the playoffs. There really were. 266 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,920 There was also some snoozefest and the Pats played in a couple 267 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,480 of them. So I myself, I get that. 268 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,600 I get that text there. Like I think if it was Josh or 269 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,440 if it was Joe Burrow or if it was Lamar, like part of the 270 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,520 thing about the Super Bowl is that it's become the ultimate 271 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,560 payoff for our evaluation of quarterbacks, which is great. 272 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,720 I really enjoy that. And again, that's why I keep 273 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,000 saying it's the Earl. And I'm trying to be fair to 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Drake May, who again is going to finish second in the MVP. 275 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,520 He's a great player, he's accurate, he's a good athlete, 276 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,440 he's a big game player. His stats are through the roof. 277 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,080 He wins, He's a flat out baller and he's not just the guy who's 278 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,840 like a gamer, he's a gamer who's got a lot of talent. 279 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Drake May is on his way to a tremendous career. 280 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,560 And maybe in hindsight, you know what, I look back on the Super 281 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,720 Bowl, I will appreciate it more if he does win. 282 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,040 And it's the early punctuation and there's other punctuations 283 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,440 of what ultimately proves to be a Hall of Fame career. 284 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Maybe, maybe it'll hit me different down the road. 285 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,560 Maybe I'll appreciate it more. But I just, you know, if I if 286 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:05,440 Sam Darnold wasn't on The Jets and I didn't have this affinity 287 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,440 for just a really good, polished, well-intentioned young 288 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,840 man who I'm genuinely happy for, I mean, I'd be looking at at 289 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Sam. Yeah, it'd be a good NFL story. 290 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,520 OK, fine. But I wouldn't be as connected 291 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,080 to it. And I would probably process Sam 292 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,800 Darnold more for what he is. And that's a quarterback who's 293 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,760 been on four teams the last four years, who's playing in the 294 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,680 quarterback who's playing in the Super Bowl, which generally is 295 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,960 not a recipe for massive ratings and massive appeal. 296 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,880 And you know, and then you got to throw the complexities and 297 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,200 this drives me nuts. the Super Bowl watch parties like I am 298 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,400 like I've at least gotten to a point where I've learned how to 299 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,040 function at a I'm I'm pretty social, but I'm also social when 300 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,880 I want to be. My wife knows that, like if I'm 301 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,400 not in the mood, you're not getting social BT Now, when I am 302 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520 in the mood, there's nobody more fun than social BT. 303 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,200 But like, what my wife has not always understood is that Super 304 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Bowl daddy's working, you know, So when everybody else is 305 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,040 looking at the commercials and which I think are fun, I'm not 306 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,280 here to denounce the commercials. 307 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,920 I actually do enjoy that. Everybody kind of shits on them. 308 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,440 I think that they're fun. And I do kind of enjoy that. 309 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,040 Now, some are stupid and anything with some sort of 310 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,160 political leaning. Either way, I think it's all 311 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,720 base. I think, like, I there's certain 312 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,920 things that really do fundamentally annoy me, but I 313 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,440 enjoy them. But over the years, she's like, 314 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,160 oh, you know, we, we got invited to this party. 315 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,600 You know, you want to go? I'm like begrudgingly, yeah, 316 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,200 hey, I'm going to have so and so and so and so come over to watch 317 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,480 the Super Bowl. So in her mind, she's thinking 318 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,320 it's a fun day, which I get because for the most part, she's 319 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,880 the one with the kids. Especially when I was going into 320 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920 the city for 13 straight years, doing all the things that that 321 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,400 moms do, the day-to-day rigors of momhood. 322 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,040 Understood. Respect, right? 323 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,680 But her version of Super Bowl Sunday lot different than my 324 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,800 version of Super Bowl Sunday. I got people chirping they don't 325 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,200 know anything about football. And I'm here, especially when I 326 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,160 was doing the National show. I'm sitting there saying I yeah, 327 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,760 yeah, shut up, Shut up. Like, you're droning on about 328 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,800 the dumbest, most meaningless things. 329 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,880 And I'm trying to, I'm trying to, like, construct a show in my 330 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,560 mind the next day, Like, all right, well, how am I going to 331 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,080 attack this with tiki? Oh, third down and seven. 332 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Oh, they call the penalty. Oh, let me hear that. 333 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,160 I don't know if that was a penalty. 334 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Let me hear the commentary. Oh, they're going to the review. 335 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,880 They bring in Sterator. Whomever. 336 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Let me hear what he's saying. Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, 337 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,960 chirp. Everybody yapping away, you 338 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,600 know, the wine flowing, the booze flowing and ungodly amount 339 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,520 of food, kids running around yelling. 340 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,400 I got to watch football. I got to understand what I'm 341 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,520 watching. And so I do and what I'm 342 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,920 hearing, which I can't, which is the point. 343 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,360 So I've got a little bit of a different level of frustration 344 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,040 with the Super Bowl, maybe more than some of you like the days 345 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,880 of me going to watch a Super Bowl and hammering back 7 beers 346 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,280 and not remembering what happened. 347 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,360 I, I, I didn't do that. But when I was 23, real. 348 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,359 Well, yeah, I did actually. But I'm talking about like when 349 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,720 I first got in the business, which was really right. 350 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,160 After that, you know, it was kind of lock in time. 351 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,599 So it's upon us. I think the venue's very benign. 352 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,319 I've been out there, as I said, Super Bowl 50, Santa Clara. 353 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,720 I thought Levi, I was living in San Francisco right when they 354 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,920 built the stadium, and I was fortunate I was only there to a 355 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,920 little less than two years. So I was fortunate enough to be 356 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,960 able to watch several games, including a playoff win against 357 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,960 Drew Brees, that Candlestick, which was great for me as 358 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,840 somebody who grew up in the Northeast and you know, you 359 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,200 watch The Jets, you watch the Giants, and then that second 360 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,720 game with like Madden, Summerall, you get the Niners. 361 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,800 You know, you might get some late Raider games when they were 362 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,680 good. And just to really be able to 363 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,840 walk into that stadium and feel Candlestick, it was awesome. 364 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,120 And I'm very happy that I was able to do that. 365 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,080 But the the trek out to Santa Clara, not to mention it's 41 366 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,680 miles from from San Francisco, but it's just like it's kind of 367 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,720 in and Santa Clara is nice, but it just doesn't have any juice. 368 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,520 And I've been to a lot of stadiums that that are that are 369 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,480 somewhat new. And I just think that Levi 370 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,960 stadium is wack at J KB K 1313. What's your favorite Super Bowl 371 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,160 of all time? What is my favorite Super Bowl 372 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,400 Like that's another thing like it's so crazy. 373 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 I and I love football. I'm going to try to construct an 374 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,840 answer here. But like, I look at like, 375 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,360 baseball when I was young versus football when I was young and I 376 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:32,480 could go chat even before I was consuming, like being able to be 377 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,440 old enough to realize what I was watching, you know, like 75. 378 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,360 I mean, I was 1 1/2 years old. But the Red Sox and the Reds in 379 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,400 75. Colton Fisk pushing the ball. 380 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,920 Stay fair, stay fair. 76 like the Big Red Machine squashing 381 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,160 the Yankees, sweeping them for zip. 382 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,160 Then the Yankees going out and getting Reggie, then the Yankees 383 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,720 winning in 77 and 78. And then 79, you had the 384 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,600 Pirates. We are family. 385 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,360 And then you get into the 80s and the Royals were there, a 386 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:03,480 couple of times in the Phillies were there, and Cal Ripken won 387 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,600 his only championship with the Orioles. 388 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,320 And then you keep getting deeper and deeper. 389 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,920 The Mets in 86. And you know, like I chapter and 390 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,160 verse, I can tell you plays and players and everything, the 391 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Super Bowl is different. I don't know if it was the Roman 392 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,920 numerals that just threw me off as a kid. 393 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,960 I'm like, what? What is it? 394 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,560 What number are we on? Where, who? 395 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,360 I don't know. It was the fact that The Jets 396 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:28,680 were never in it. I would probably say one that 397 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,760 does jump out to me is just because of the unique 398 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,840 viewership. I remember going to my dad's one 399 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,320 of his really good friends, name is Dale, who who passed on 400 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,040 lawyer who went to Northwestern and my dad and, and I don't 401 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,240 know, I don't know how they became friends. 402 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,400 It was like my dad's certainly not a lawyer and certainly 403 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,720 didn't go to Northwestern, but they became really good friends, 404 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,440 right? And they had a penthouse in 405 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Manhattan and my dad went, you know, they were in there betting 406 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,200 a few bucks. They were definitely betting and 407 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,440 I remember going to this penthouse in Manhattan for the 408 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Broncos, Giants Super Bowl and the Giants trust. 409 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,080 I mean, they mop them and that's when I'm I remember watching 410 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,600 Super Bowls before that, but that was one that jumped out. 411 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,560 I'm not saying it was the best game, but it was certainly 412 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,320 meaningful for me. Matter of fact, I remember, oh, 413 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,160 Jay Rod, do me a favor. Look this up. 414 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:25,000 I think the year I could be off. 1983 just find the year that the 415 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Eagles played the Raiders. I think it was 83 might be off 416 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,840 but right in that neighborhood. I remember watching the Super 417 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Bowl in my basement with me and my buddy down the street and I 418 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,880 don't even know how we had a few bucks like we were. 419 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,480 He was a year old or so. Maybe he was the. 1980 season 420 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,320 80. Yeah. 421 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:55,880 No, says Raiders took the Eagles 2710 Yep, Yep, to decide the 422 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,720 champion for the 1980 season, could you do me a. 423 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,080 Favor, can you go? OK, can you go? 424 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,800 So I guess, but I don't think I knew him when I was 6 or 7. 425 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,680 Just go in sequential order. 80, if you can. 80, I'll give you a 426 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,120 minute to look it up. 808182 and 83. 427 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Yeah. What? 428 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,120 What? I know the Redskins played in 429 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,040 there. I know Miami. 430 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,720 I guess Miami would have been Marino's rookie year. 431 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Do you have that in front of you? 432 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,960 I don't even care when the score. 433 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Whatever. OK, so the Eagles Raiders was 434 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:32,280 played in 8182. Was 49ers, Bengals, Bengals. 435 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,680 Yep, and then 80. 3 was. Let's see, Was that I would have 436 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,720 been Marino, right? I believe. 437 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,080 So. It's yeah. 438 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,920 Dolphins. The Redskins. 439 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Wow, so it was. Even earlier than I thought. 440 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,080 This makes it even crazier. So I guess the the the Eagles, 441 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,400 Raiders, Super Bowl. I remember being in the 442 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,800 basement. I think my dad had to work and 443 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,880 which sucks, man, and my mom had no interest in the game. 444 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Anyway, I'm in the basement watching, watching the game. 445 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,760 My buddy Mike and we each we each had a few dollars. 446 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,200 I don't know how. And we were we were betting the 447 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,760 dollar like, hey, I'll bet you buck, they run the next play. 448 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,840 I'll bet you dollar that they passed the next play. 449 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,280 And really, maybe I had five singles. 450 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,400 He had five singles. I don't even remember what 451 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,680 monetary denomination actually wound up exchanging hands. 452 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Like if we both had five, then I walk away with 7 versus 3 or 8, 453 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 two or nine, one or 645. I had no idea. 454 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,720 You know, I'd probably know that if I knew about reverses back 455 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,040 then and parlays, I would have found a way to bang one in. 456 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,200 But I do remember not really caring that much about because I 457 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040 didn't really understand football at a very early age, 458 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,920 right? I don't really have the offense 459 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,520 and the defense and the rules. It was so different than 460 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 baseball, which to me was very simple to understand. 461 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,240 See the ball, ball, hit the ball, run, catch, throw. 462 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,200 Very few rules. Is it fair? 463 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,200 Is it foul? Are you safe or you out? 464 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Is it a ball? Is it a strike? 465 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,960 I was able to just, maybe it was just me, but I don't think I'm 466 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,160 alone. I was able to process that more 467 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,920 as a young kid, but how about that? 468 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,720 So I guess I would have been 7 and he was 8 and we're sitting 469 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200 there banging a buck for buck. Hey, a buck, the next pass, 470 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,920 buck, a run here buck. He doesn't get to play more than 471 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,040 5 yards. Oh my God. 472 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280 So again, I'm not here to preach. 473 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,480 I'm just telling you what I view the Super Bowl to be now. 474 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Now the over commercialization and the kowtowing to people who 475 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,520 don't give a shit about football. 476 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,080 They don't care. And I feel like I've got to 477 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,440 still stand up for the people who do so as the entire day gets 478 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760 hijacked with music that I don't know and I don't care and I 479 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,160 never will care about. I, I don't, I don't know what to 480 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,600 tell you. Like it just goes on and on and 481 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,680 on and on. Then you've got the weak 482 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,760 interruption again, which I get because there's a logistical 483 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,200 component. You got to get out there. 484 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,920 You want guys to be healthy for the Super Bowl. 485 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800 I understand it, but like I feel like I haven't watched the 486 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,360 football game in a month and it's only been one week without 487 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,680 football. So that's where I'm at with the 488 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,160 football now, unfortunately. I mean, this is just my luck 489 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,680 now. You got to you got to hire who's 490 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,240 good. You got to hire who's out there 491 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,520 and you've got to make the right decision for the show. 492 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:06,120 So I wasn't going to let J Rods gross Patriots bias affect me 493 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 offering him the job to be the producer for BT Unleashed. 494 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,640 But would you look at this guy, J Rod Pop on the screen. 495 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,480 See, this is the difference. Tell me. 496 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Look at the youthful glow. What's up? 497 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,680 Look at the look how young he is. 498 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840 By the way, he told me he was out till 3:30 the other night at 499 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,200 the concert. That's been tough. 500 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,520 The weekend. Yeah. 501 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,120 Good. I'm happy. 502 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,320 I know I texted you and asked you about the concert, so I'm 503 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,520 good. I'm glad you had a good time. 504 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Right. But look at this guy. 505 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,680 He's a young pup. He's just getting going. 506 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,880 He's lucky enough to be and and earned it to be involved in 507 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,680 something like this. I know he appreciates it. 508 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,160 I appreciate him. But just look at this guy. 509 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,840 I'm in my early 50s. I've never seen one. 510 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 This guy's getting ready to watch another new dynasty with 511 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,560 the Patriots and the, the like, the return of the Patriots. 512 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480 I'm not going to lie, man, it's turned me off a little bit. 513 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,680 Like I I can respect Rabel and I can respect how they build the 514 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,200 team. I just don't want to watch them 515 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,760 win anymore. I'm I'm not going to pull any 516 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,760 punch. Yeah, I mean. 517 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:02,520 Come on, I I definitely could see that like because I mean, my 518 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,640 roommate too, he's a he's a big jets fan and like he's saying 519 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800 the same thing. He's just like, screw the Pats. 520 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Like this is just awful. Hate to see it Got to say from 521 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560 the people back at home, my family, you know, we're very 522 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,160 happy. Can't wait to see it again. 523 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Going to be fun. So yeah, excited, excited for 524 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,000 the excited for the game this weekend. 525 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,880 We'll see what happens now you're. 526 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,000 You're a music guy and I hope you enjoy it. 527 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600 You're a music guy. We know you did the BT 528 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,280 Unleashed. We got more songs coming for the 529 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,680 show. You're at the concert the other 530 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,720 night you performed here or now. If you're not a Bad Bunny guy, 531 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,400 then you know I'm not. But you're like the last hope 532 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,880 here. And I know he's wildly famous. 533 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,880 Are you a Bad Bunny fan? You know. 534 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,760 What, Like listen, have I busted down the Bad Bunny a couple 535 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,720 times at a club? Yes. 2. 1000% but it would I 536 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,040 consider myself a Bad Bunny fan. No, I wouldn't say that. 537 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Like when I say I'm like, I wouldn't even say in general, 538 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,800 I'm very excited, like you said, like excited for Super Bowl 539 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200 halftime shows. I just feel like often, like the 540 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,720 acts, they're kind of basic or just like, you know, Usher, 541 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600 like, like that's not my generation. 542 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,200 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean last. 543 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,000 Year, you know, obviously I enjoyed that was like definitely 544 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,320 for my age group. But yeah, I mean the Bad Bunny 545 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,600 choice, you know, I think globally he's a superstar. 546 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,040 You know, I think even in America he's a star. 547 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,000 I just think audience wise it's it's an interesting choice, 548 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,680 Yeah. I mean. 549 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Audience wise, it's time to go to the bathroom. 550 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,600 It's what it is exactly for me and and. 551 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:46,080 Pretty much for everyone probably like, you know, it's I 552 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,320 got, you know. Listen, I get it. 553 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,280 Listen, by the way, you don't have to be a big fan to get down 554 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,960 to some music. I mean, if the opportunity 555 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,920 presents itself, you know, and you're at a club and you're 556 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,040 getting after it and you hear a song and everybody's banging 557 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,440 around to the beat, you feel good. 558 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960 I'm not mad at you for that. And now listen, there's been 559 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,360 some that I've loved here. I love Dre, love, you know, love 560 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,960 when Snoop was out there. Like that's my like the 90s. 561 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,440 But it's funny, as an East Coast guy, you know, my friends get so 562 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,840 mad at me, like when Biggie was phenomenal, but like I look at 563 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,680 the the West Coast rap of the 90s, like when that stuff was 564 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,400 sitting like doggy style dropped when I was in college and I got 565 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,360 the CDI, got the CD. That was my anthem. 566 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,360 I used to play that before, like before we go out every night, 567 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,440 you know, So I love that stuff. So when those guys were on stage 568 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,120 and obviously Eminem's got some bangers. 569 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,440 He's an old timer, obviously. Like that's great. 570 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,360 It's a little hit or miss, but but I had an idea and thank you 571 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:35,920 for that, J Rod. I appreciate it, buddy. 572 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,240 I had an idea years ago, right? I remember saying this to Tiki. 573 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,520 I'm like, you know, here's what they should do, and I don't know 574 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840 why they've never done this, and it's not that freaking hard. 575 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,760 So I proposed to Tiki. I probably said this for the 576 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,160 first time a decade ago, maybe even 11 years ago at this point. 577 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,120 I see, you know, instead of having one, one group or one 578 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,080 artist that may or may not appeal to the mainstream, right? 579 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Why don't you have 4 and why don't you have basically four 580 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,040 different sections of the stadium? 581 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,480 So I'm going to actually draw a very, very loose schematic for 582 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,840 you. All right, let's just say this 583 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,880 is the stadium. Boom, boom, bang, midfield. 584 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,920 There's the end zones. All right, so there we go. 585 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Got a little diagram. So that's the perimeter of the 586 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,960 stadium, that's the field outline. 587 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,600 That's the 50. You got the end zones there, 588 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,320 right? Why not put in each corner, 589 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,600 right where the XS are, right there. 590 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,440 Put in a specific genre where everybody that's watching the 591 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,200 Super Bowl is going to have appeal. 592 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,040 So go to, you know, one. Hey, the nostalgic guy, ladies 593 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,360 and gentlemen, Aerosmith, you know, ladies and gentlemen, Mary 594 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,240 J Blige. You know what, whatever it might 595 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,480 be, and then you have, you know, a current rap or a current R&B, 596 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040 you get the rock representation for sure. 597 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,800 And then he just bounced around. Now it's not 3 songs of pop, you 598 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960 know, it's a little bit of a different configuration for the 599 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200 set. And I understand logistically 600 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,920 that it's a massive, that's why it takes so long, massive 601 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,480 undertaking to have, you know, Katy Perry fly across the sky, 602 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,400 you know, whatever that was on the horse. 603 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,600 I don't remember what she was on. 604 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,320 I get it. And they try to push the 605 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,240 envelope year by year by year. And it does look pretty, could 606 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,720 be wildly cool on TV. But if the music sucks, or at 607 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,680 least if I perceive to be and I'm disinterested in the music, 608 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,480 then guess what I'm doing? I'm either clicking or I'm going 609 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,880 for a walk. So I think if you were to have 610 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240 equal parts representation, you know it. 611 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,280 And by the way, the nostalgic act doesn't have to be somebody 612 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,600 like Aerosmith. It could be, you know, and I'm 613 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,480 not even a big The Who or you know, one of the early rap I get 614 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Sugar Hill Gang. I don't even know if they're all 615 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,480 alive. I hope they are, but get an 616 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,480 early rap pioneer, just get something that's nostalgic, 617 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,320 right? And then, you know, you, you 618 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720 level it off with a Little Rock, a little R&B and everybody's 619 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,120 happy. How hard is that? 620 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,600 I mean, I really don't think that that's hard, but I just 621 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,640 just just have 0 interest for this. 622 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,040 Let me get my gun. Why is that not working there? 623 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,200 OK with Drew, unless your team's in the Super Bowl quality is a 624 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800 let down versus the playoff games leading up yes, Super 625 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,320 Bowls, a social gathering, food, friends, family, cold ones, 626 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,040 commercials, which by the way, you know, food, check friends, 627 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,880 check family, check cold ones, check commercials, check. 628 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000 I mean 5 for five. Those are 5 things I like. 629 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,520 I just don't necessarily love them all at the same time, but 630 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760 I'm trying to watch a champion get ground waiting for MLB in 631 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200 the Masters. Andrew Bay Ridge yes by the way, 632 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,520 how could the Justin Rose play yesterday broke Tigers record. 633 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,560 How about that? I did watch a little golf 634 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,440 yesterday. Good to see Brooks kept the back 635 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,120 off the off the Lib tour. Not that I'm going to get into 636 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,480 golf now, but you mentioned the Masters. 637 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,360 I love the Masters, love the US Open. 638 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,680 We'll do some golf here on the show when it's, you know, when 639 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,800 it's burden. So yeah, I I had no other sport. 640 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,920 Do we have to jump through hoops to crown a champion? 641 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,280 You know, World Series, you know, playoff round, playoff 642 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,920 round play. You know, depending upon wild 643 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,240 card, World Series, four games, five games, six games or seven 644 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,400 games, champion crown. Game off day or game, game, off 645 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 day, game. Like if there's a sequence to 646 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120 it, there's a rhythm to it. Same with the end. 647 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Now the NBA Finals, they do stretch it out a little bit. 648 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 And they've done that more and more as the years have gone. 649 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,480 On hockey, it's pretty much on the ice, on the ice, day off on 650 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 the ice. It's a continuous run from the 651 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,680 start of the playoffs to the crowning of the champion with 652 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,720 whomever you know, holds up the Stanley Cup. 653 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,360 And they and football's the exact opposite. 654 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,600 And we don't give anything more time than we get football like 655 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,320 we are a lot. I know I am. 656 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,400 I am locked into the NFL training camp. 657 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Like that's not that's not to even obviously mention, you know 658 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320 how I follow everything, at least with The Jets and the 659 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Giants and the other big stories around the NFL, the bigger ones, 660 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,840 OTAs, and not to mention the hype for the draft. 661 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,360 Like it is a continuous connection to the sport of the 662 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,240 football. And you know, you you get the 663 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,440 training camp and he just praying that none of you guys 664 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,640 get hurt. If you were a Jets fan, he just 665 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,600 pray like, hey, maybe we're going to be competitive this 666 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,160 year. You know, if you have a young 667 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,520 quarterback, let any team now, let's hope we got the right guy. 668 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,280 But there's there's an outward omitting of of emotion that 669 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,720 becomes more and more palpable as the year goes on. 670 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160 And then it's September and then it's October and then you know 671 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,600 who's real and who's not. And then you get a sense of 672 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,000 who's going to be the MVP or who's in the mix and who's not. 673 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800 Then you start talking coaches on the hot seat, like the 674 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,000 dialogue. Then you start talking, you 675 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,080 know, which quarterbacks going to go first overall, like we 676 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640 started doing this year and every year, you know, going back 677 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,880 to the first when Mendoza and Oregon played up and out in 678 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Oregon early in September. So like, it's just really just a 679 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,800 continuous flow. And then not only do you have an 680 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,320 interruption, but now you have it in a in an environment that's 681 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,680 got nothing to do with the with the, with the components of of 682 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,480 what we just watched transpiring. 683 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,080 No home field advantage. The fans. 684 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Yeah. All right, if you got a ton of 685 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,640 money, sure, you can get your way in there. 686 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,200 But of the 80,000, let's just throw the number 80 of the 687 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,680 80,000 fans, right, who are watching in person. 688 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Any given Super Bowl, how many are truly devout fans of the 689 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,760 teams that are watching that, that are playing that day? 690 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,720 How many, I don't know, I can hazard a guess. 691 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,920 Now, I can tell you that it's a lot lower than you know, like if 692 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,280 the Chiefs are playing at Arrowhead and I know the Chiefs 693 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,880 nation travels. I'm not saying that. 694 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,280 And there's a lot of affluent people that are fans of teams 695 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,680 that get to the Super Bowl that find a way to go. 696 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,120 I'm not saying it's all corporate. 697 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,120 I'm not saying it's all sterile, but it's a different type of 698 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,960 juice. It just is the elements 699 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,800 generally. It's benign, it's safe, it's 700 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,640 domed. And, you know, I think there's 701 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,440 something to be said for the sport of football where you are 702 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640 really you are forced to deal with Mother Nature. 703 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,200 We saw it this year and it all changes. 704 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,480 And I'm just not a fan of that. I'm really just not a fan of 705 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,680 that. So you know that that that's my 706 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,680 take on the Super Bowl. I'll get more to the matchups 707 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,960 and obviously get deeper in the week. 708 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,280 I'll tell you who I think is going to win. 709 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440 I'm happy for Sam. I'm rooting for Sam. 710 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,800 I think Drake Drake made is great. 711 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,040 I'm incredibly impressed by his his poise and his talent. 712 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,880 You know, Mike Vrabel was the guy that I wanted for The Jets 713 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480 and then obviously Aaron Glenn was always on my list to be 714 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,280 fair, but might go back and look it up. 715 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,719 Mike Vrabel was the guy that I wanted from day one. 716 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,000 They didn't get him and he's a great coach. 717 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,159 But you know, I do think the one thing before I get to The Jets 718 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,080 OC stuff it a little something on the brunt here. 719 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,960 I think the one thing, and it's a big thing, like it's the thing 720 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,040 that you can't replicate. I don't care if you put Bad 721 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,320 Bunny, Eminem, Aerosmith, Mary J all on one stand. 722 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,199 They they recreate, recreate. We are the world, you know, and 723 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,719 they come up with which will be phenomenal. 724 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,080 I would actually like to see that. 725 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,000 Now that would that I'd stumbled upon an idea. 726 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,320 So how about that you go back to like we are the world, Kenny 727 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Rogers, Michael Jackson, Oh my God, Sting. 728 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,560 I mean, just the the voices in there. 729 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Wow. The I would love to see some 730 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,440 sort of new rendition of all of the artists there. 731 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,880 You know, so get some of the rappers, get Timberlake, get a 732 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,640 couple of old school rock legends that are still alive and 733 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,800 still able to hit the note right. 734 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Put them all on one stage and sing a song. 735 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,080 I mean, how about being creative? 736 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,200 How about doing something like that? 737 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,400 But when there's no juice in terms of a palpable storyline, 738 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,600 and I don't think that there really is, yeah, Pats fans are 739 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,880 fired up. Yeah, Seattle fans are fired up. 740 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Seattle doesn't have a national profile. 741 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,080 They just don't. And I think when you don't have 742 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,840 a national profile or that imprint and the Pats do, but 743 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,760 it's not like the Niners, even though they won more, more more 744 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,880 than anybody or the Steelers or the Packers or a few others. 745 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,920 It's just a little less than unless you've got that Peyton or 746 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,160 that Elway or that, you know, early on Tom Brady that like 747 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,840 carving out this legacy, Marino getting there as a hotshot 748 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,720 rookie and never getting back. I don't know. 749 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,520 I don't know. I'm trying to be Joey Downer 750 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,080 here. I just I don't love the way this 751 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,960 thing is shaping up. All right, Obviously I get some 752 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,720 of these texts here. J Rod is going to pump them in 753 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,400 whatever looks good. Hold. 754 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640 Is it BT getting close to telling people to get off his 755 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,480 lawn? Not really, no. 756 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,360 No, I'm not Joe B's definitely turned BT's turned into Joe B. 757 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,240 No, no, I'm not. I just at this point I know what 758 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,800 I want. And if I don't understand the 759 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,760 lyrics and I don't relate to him, I ain't singing them and 760 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,320 I'm not listening to them. So it's not a knock on his 761 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,240 talent. I know he's wildly, like 762 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,160 internationally incredibly famous. 763 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,320 And that's great. It's great for people. 764 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,700 Let's let's bring Elvis back from the dead at Slay under 765 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,240 score Kids. Yeah, No, I'm not trying to dig 766 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,400 up some of the legends just because, oh, it was so much 767 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,800 better back then. I don't even think Elvis is that 768 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,160 good. I really don't talk about some 769 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,640 blasphemous comment here. And you talk about some of the 770 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,480 great musicians of all time and certainly one of those 771 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,360 transcendent, you know, figures and music, you know, Michael 772 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,840 Jackson, Elvis, Madonna, maybe on the on the women's side, a 773 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,520 few others, right. I don't, I don't know that I've 774 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,760 ever willingly put an Elvis song in my whole life on. 775 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,520 I don't, I don't have any of my phone. 776 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,400 If I hear it on the radio, which I don't listen to music on the 777 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560 radio anymore, I kind of bounce around. 778 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,240 No, I mean, I, I don't need to, as you would say, dig up Elvis 779 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,400 and put them out there. I just need something in 780 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,960 between, you know, you know, if you don't know by now, I'm just 781 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,040 I'm not feeling Bad Bunny, but I don't know what he's going to 782 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,120 sing. I don't care. 783 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,720 I saw and I saw him last night, not that I watched the Grammys 784 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,240 anymore. I couldn't care less about that, 785 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520 but I did see him, I happened to stumble upon, I was going 786 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640 through the channels and I did see him. 787 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,480 He's a little bit at the table. He's actually pretty funny. 788 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,240 And, and I thought he said some good things about, you know, 789 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,360 hate versus love and peace versus discord. 790 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,640 And, you know, it's not about aggression, it's not about 791 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,520 anger, It's more about love. And that, by the way, that's 792 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,240 incredibly practical and, and very welcome sentiment. 793 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,280 I mean, I, I think at its core, it's all rooted and good. 794 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,800 I absolutely agree with that. I also, I also don't know the 795 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080 way the world, not to get too deep here, but the way the world 796 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,000 is now, I, I don't, I don't know if that's if that's enough. 797 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,160 I mean, because the here's the thing, because the people who 798 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,640 are who are espousing the love are already programmed for the 799 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,160 most part to be good and to do good. 800 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,480 It's the people who don't feel love and have hatred and 801 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,880 jealousy and anger that manifests itself in a lot of 802 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,960 different ways. Unfortunately, many tragic, I 803 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,200 don't know, is love going to be able to permeate their heart by 804 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,040 just a musician going out there and saying let's love everybody 805 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360 or tweet, You know, that's I know. 806 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,080 I mean, it's it's a great sound by knocking them. 807 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,040 It's a great sentiment. I agree with that. 808 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,440 But is it really practical? I don't know, you know, based on 809 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,200 what's going on in the world and has been for a long time, 810 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,400 Probably not, you know, all right, so here's where we are 811 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,400 for The Jets OC position second round. 812 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,440 They got 5 names left. Three, have got experience 813 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,760 called the plays. Two, don't. 814 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480 Let me just say this, man, I mean no disrespect to Ronald 815 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,720 Curry, Lunda Wells, whatever. You know, they're not getting 816 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,920 the job if it's not Frank Reich, if it's not Darryl Bevel, and if 817 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,360 it's not Greg Roman. And by the way, even if it is 818 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,320 one of those 3, and it's going to be that The Jets are Dumber 819 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,360 and more incompetent than I could ever have imagined. 820 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,720 If the New York Jets go into this season and I'm just I'm 821 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,680 going to make a prediction. And if there's anything that's 822 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,480 less safe, all right, we're probably less accurate. 823 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,720 We're less wise to do is to actually think that you know 824 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,560 what The Jets are thinking in terms of a prediction. 825 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,080 But even The Jets have to know that they have to hire somebody 826 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,520 who's actually done the job before. 827 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,240 Now, if you have a first time DC who's not calling the plays, All 828 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,600 right, Aaron Glenn as an embattled second year coach 829 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560 who's on the ropes. And if he starts out one and 830 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,000 four, he's probably not making it to Columbus Day and he's 831 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,880 certainly not making it to Halloween, let alone 832 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,520 Thanksgiving. He will be gone early if it's 833 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,800 ugly, right? So with him now calling the 834 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,960 plays out of desperation and a new young kid as the DC whatever 835 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,760 power he's actually has. I I, I don't know if you don't 836 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,000 have an experience to OC, preferably somebody who's been a 837 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,040 former coach like Reich that could assume the burden of what 838 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,280 the hell is going on on game day, then they are just they are 839 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000 beyond salvation. Like they even the New York Jets 840 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,520 have to understand that this one's a layup. 841 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,560 This is a little you know, when you're playing with your 842 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,600 buddies. And you're playing, you know, a 843 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,400 little a little match on the golf course. 844 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,560 And it's like, you know, this far, I pick it up, man. 845 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,400 Or like we say in inside the leather or we have an 846 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,760 expression. You could you could tap it in 847 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,320 with your big toe, meaning it's so easy and even even we are 848 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,560 going to miss it. Pick it up. 849 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,720 I'm giving it to you. This is a tapping. 850 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,440 This is a tap in with your toe. This is a pick them up. 851 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,960 This is when you stand with your legs spread and you put the 852 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,000 putter almost behind your back in between your legs and you 853 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,480 knock it in and it goes in every time because it's this far away. 854 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,640 This is the kind of decision that The Jets have here. 855 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,240 If they mess this, they are really beyond hope because there 856 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,920 is nothing else that should permeate their mindset other 857 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,400 than getting somebody in the building that has actually done 858 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520 the job. And getting somebody in the 859 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,080 building that is equipped to deal with the nonsense and the 860 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,360 losses and the chaos and the anarchy that is inevitably and 861 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,920 invariably going to be on Aaron Glenn's doorstep immediately. 862 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,480 So I like Reich. I don't think he's perfect. 863 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,520 I like Bevel. I don't think he's perfect. 864 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,880 I like Roman. I don't think he's perfect. 865 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,680 I have actually have a sense it's good. 866 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,520 I listen. I think it's going to be Rike or 867 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160 Roman. I prefer Rike. 868 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,680 I feel like Roman's running style, even though The Jets were 869 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,400 run first team, I think that's a move that like if The Jets would 870 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,280 have gotten Roman 10 years ago, I would have been pumped. 871 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,680 I would have been absolute Jim Harbaugh Guy run scheme wildly 872 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:48,240 successful, but it just seems like one of these recycled moves 873 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,800 that just has no innovation. But the truth of the matter is 874 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,920 The Jets don't have the luxury of trying to be innovative. 875 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640 Like you can be a little innovative when you got, you 876 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,200 know, some wins under your belt, when you got one side of the 877 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,040 ball that's on wrap, when you got a quarterback that you 878 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,280 already know is 3 or 4 years in and is already a stud. 879 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,200 Like you can maybe maybe I don't even know if it's fully 880 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,040 advisable, but you could justify it more. 881 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,560 Roll the dice, bring in a guy who is thought to be the boy 882 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,480 wonder, you know, brilliant, innovative, forward thinking, 883 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,160 offensive mind. All right, let's pair him up 884 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,240 with the rest of the veteran staff and let's go to town and 885 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,320 let's win. The Jets can't do that. 886 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,760 The Jets don't have a quarterback. 887 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,400 The Jets don't have a defense. The Jets don't have a passing 888 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,600 game. The Jets don't have a second 889 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,680 wide receiver. I don't know if Breeze Hall will 890 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,040 be back. The Jets really don't have much 891 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,640 except the fact that they've got a pretty good, which is not a 892 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,440 bad starting point, actually better than pretty good. 893 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,440 The Jets have a good offensive line. 894 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,880 And when you hear that and you know that and you do, maybe 895 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,880 that's where Roman makes some more sense. 896 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,080 I, I think I'd, I'd like to know what The Jets philosophy is in 897 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,360 terms of are they going to take a swing with that second first 898 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,120 round pick on a Ty Simpson like which I don't even know. 899 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,000 I like Ty Simpson more than most of you because the Alabama 900 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,720 couldn't run the ball and he was asked to throw the ball. 901 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,600 I think it was 7273% of the time, which was the first or 902 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,760 second biggest disparity in all of college football that think 903 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,160 about Alabama had no running game and this guy was running 904 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,960 for his life. I actually think Simpson is 905 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040 talented and much more appealing than many of you. 906 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,480 I ain't taking him at 16. I don't know if I could justify 907 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,720 that. But you got to take a 908 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,680 quarterback somewhere and don't you have to have an OC that's 909 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,160 worked with quarterbacks at some point? 910 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,680 I think you do. So that should light itself up 911 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,600 for a pretty easy decision for The Jets. 912 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120 But again, they're The Jets, so you really don't know. 913 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,160 All right, At Avery Summit, if a head coach is calling the 914 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,120 defensive plays, why bother having ADC? 915 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,960 A head coach should be a general overseer with eyes on every 916 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,520 aspect of the team, not super focused on one area as a play 917 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,840 caller is. I actually think that that's a 918 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,760 very good point. I think that certain people can 919 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,160 certainly do it and history has proven that to be true. 920 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:03,680 I think with Aaron Glenn, I think it's him asserting himself 921 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,680 and understanding that, hey, if I'm going down, I'm going down 922 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,520 on my watch, I'm going down the way I want to go down. 923 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,520 If I lose this game and I get burned on a on 1/3 and eight 924 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,360 from from midfield, that sets up a game-winning field goal for 925 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,920 the other team with 9 seconds left. 926 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,280 But that's to play that I called. 927 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,040 Well, then I can live with that as a human. 928 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,880 I can live with that as a football person. 929 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,080 I can live with that as a man. I messed up. 930 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,720 I made the wrong call, but at least I did it. 931 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,640 So I'm in control of my own fate. 932 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,560 But I think that that's a, a very, very good point because 933 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,920 when you're so fixated on calling plays, you know what? 934 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,640 What other attention to detail are you missing? 935 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,800 I, I don't know that's why that's why you need somebody 936 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,960 that's done it a lot who's been a coach as a head coach in terms 937 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,120 of delegation, like Reich or or Roman, who's been around the 938 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,560 block and worked with some big names and big talents. 939 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,520 And you know who's going at the very least they're going to run 940 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,120 the ball effectively, remain committed to it, You know, which 941 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,120 would affect down and distance, which should put in play action. 942 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,080 You know, it it could really make his life easier or it could 943 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:16,040 open up questions like, man, he he hired somebody to be the OC 944 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,720 who used to be a real valued commodity in the NFL. 945 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:22,640 But like that luster's been stripped away and he's not like 946 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,320 like, right. Frank Reich is not viewed the 947 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,120 way he was 5 five years ago and he let's go for what it is. 948 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,680 He's not neither is Roman, neither is Bevel. 949 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440 If this five years ago and one of these guys is showing up in 950 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,360 the Floral Park were like, whoa, all right, Frank Rice, Frank 951 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,640 Wright, the head coach five years ago, I would have been to 952 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,520 jump in for joy based on some of the things that I saw with Frank 953 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,160 Wright, right. So I think there's a lot of the 954 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,000 a lot of stuff there that's a little hard to, to dig into now 955 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,760 because I, I don't know exactly what the personnel is going to 956 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,480 look like. They got, I think it was 957 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,720 actually more than I thought. I remember over the weekend I 958 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:58,080 saw Samini tweeted something. I thought it was going to be 959 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,040 about 7576 million dollars. The Jets are going to probably 960 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,120 have more the neighborhood of 82 to $83 million in free agency 961 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,000 now of money to spend. Now the bad news is, is that The 962 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,960 Jets three highest paid players that they will be paying this 963 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,920 year in terms of dead, dead cap hits no longer on the team. 964 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,480 You know, Aaron Rodgers is 1. Justin Fields is the other. 965 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,320 And why am I forgetting the third? 966 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,040 Either way, those two are definitely on the list here. 967 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,120 So that is not exactly good for a team that's trying to figure 968 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,960 stuff out. But they got a lot of money to 969 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,480 spend. They got a ton of picks. 970 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,160 And at some point, whether it's at 16, whether it's trading back 971 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,360 late in the first round, whether it's next year with one of the 972 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,960 three first round picks, like you got to have somebody in the 973 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,640 building that knows how to work with a quarterback. 974 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,920 So personal. I would probably take my order 975 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,960 would be Reich and then Roman. I know they're series with 976 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,840 Roman. Seems like they're Boomer said 977 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,480 it without, you know, I know Frank's, Frank's boy. 978 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,160 It seems like The Jets are pretty serious with Frank Reich, 979 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,600 which I'd be fine with. But if you don't have the right 980 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,800 people to coach and you don't really have any sort of viable 981 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,200 option behind center, it doesn't matter who the hell you have 982 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,560 coaching. Like it really doesn't. 983 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,960 You know, you got to have players. 984 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,720 That's it. So I'm going to get to the 985 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,080 Knicks here. But like use the Knicks as an 986 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,520 example, you know, the Fizdales, the Hortisex, The Who the hell 987 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,600 else is that coach? My God, pre Tom Thibodeau, 988 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Fisher, Hortisex, Fizdale, I forget, I'm forgetting one. 989 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,400 Either way, were those guys horrendous coaches? 990 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,720 Well, I mean, they were, they weren't good. 991 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480 But like, if you gave one of those guys Jalen Brunson and 992 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,240 Cat, and I'm not even a big cat fan, but Cat and a couple of 993 00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,760 wings who were pretty good. I mean, they're not going to win 994 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,440 23 games. I can promise you that they're 995 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,880 going to be better than they were. 996 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,720 The end of the day, coaching sounds great. 997 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,960 Coaching legends, you know, do you have players how Bill 998 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,880 Belichick do this year at UNC? How did he do? 999 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,000 Did awful. How did he do? 1000 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,720 It's terrible. So I I don't get too wrapped up 1001 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,360 in in who the coach is, but I do get wrapped up in the process in 1002 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,840 determining who the coach will be in terms of what you're 1003 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,840 looking for. And at least it seems like The 1004 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,920 Jets seems seems like The Jets are in the general neighborhood 1005 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,080 of maybe potentially, possibly getting it right in terms at 1006 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,600 least as it like a a a theory, like, hey, let's get the guy 1007 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,600 who's done it before. Who knows the offense. 1008 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,200 Glenn could just worry about the defense. 1009 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,080 It sounds good. At least it's congruent with my 1010 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,160 mindset. And of course, we'll see how it 1011 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,840 goes. All right, good job by the 1012 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,400 Knicks last night. So the Knicks are at a very 1013 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,120 interesting spot right now. They've won six straight games. 1014 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,680 And again, one of the things about, you know, doing the show, 1015 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,960 unless it's like a big playoff game, Yanks, Mets, Knicks, I'm 1016 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,640 not going to get on the air. I'm not going to get on BT 1017 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,040 Unleashed and like rundown box scores and, you know, time out 1018 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,160 in the third quarter unless it's like the NFL and it's The Jets 1019 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,040 and the Giants during the regular season game. 1020 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,960 This is more of a macro conversation about the New York 1021 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,240 Knicks here who still have a couple of days to decide if 1022 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,040 they're going to make a move for Karl Anthony Towns. 1023 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,400 Now, pardon me for Giannis Anthony Kumpo. 1024 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,080 Now, Brian Windhorst this morning. 1025 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,840 I saw him on on ESPN. Brian said that it just doesn't 1026 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,280 seem like the Knicks have any motivation to really jump into 1027 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,680 the deep end of the pool and make a real move for Giannis. 1028 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,200 Like they're kind of laying out and and I, I get that. 1029 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,120 I don't, I don't, I don't meaning I understand it because 1030 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,560 there will be so many levels to this trade, recruiting a third 1031 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,240 team, maybe recruiting a 14 to get the desired assets to 1032 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,920 satisfy Milwaukee and then spin it back around like it's a 1033 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,880 complicated process. Really the good thing here. 1034 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,080 And I don't think he's going to be a nick. 1035 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,800 I would get him. I would do it. 1036 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,680 I would pursue that third team and 14. 1037 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,800 I do not think Giannis is going to be a nick. 1038 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,800 I don't I'm not even sure he's going to be dealt. 1039 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,360 But if he is dealt, I do not believe he will be dealt to the 1040 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,520 Knicks. That's my opinion. 1041 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Now. I kind of felt like that the end 1042 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,400 of the week, I would go for him. I would take the swing. 1043 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,680 I don't think this group's going to win. 1044 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,600 I'm going to remain consistent with that. 1045 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,680 It's not a championship team, but at least by winning six 1046 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,760 straight games and they played pretty well last night. 1047 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,240 Last night was good. Like OG was phenomenal. 1048 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,480 Heart was great. Cat had you know, Cat's been 1049 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,120 doing a good job on the backboard and and and very, very 1050 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,000 good. So maybe that's him attacking 1051 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,880 his role with a different mindset. 1052 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,840 You know, only took 10 or 11 shots, but he's been more of a 1053 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,920 of a presence on the backboard then he had. 1054 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,080 Of course, the two fouls early in the first quarter had to take 1055 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,240 a seat, but I thought he did a good job again on the 1056 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:19,000 backboards. I thought that Colic had some 1057 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,560 good moments. I thought Shamit had some good 1058 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,480 moments. So see, now that the Knicks have 1059 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,520 won sixth straight versus the losing streak that they were, 1060 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,880 you know, embroiled in somewhat recently, at least it gives you 1061 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,000 a different mindset. And the word that I'm going to 1062 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,080 use is clarity when things are going awry. 1063 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,280 I mean, you can apply this to any, any, any facet of life. 1064 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,040 Something as simple and as benign as being on the golf 1065 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,280 course with your buddies, right, You having a rough start, you 1066 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,760 start over thinking everything you like. 1067 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,160 Oh God, you know this irons not working today. 1068 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,720 So rather than laying up off the tee, even though I probably know 1069 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:55,600 that I should, you know, I've just been kind of I'm just not 1070 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,240 getting in the middle of the club face here. 1071 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,040 So even though drivers the wrong call and I have a chance to 1072 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,240 shoot it out of bounds because it's too short, whatever. 1073 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,840 Maybe if I swing 60% instead of 85% or 90, you know, I could 1074 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,040 take 2530 yards off the drive and maybe hit it perfectly and 1075 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,000 be in position. Like you're overthinking 1076 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,280 everything. Like if it and I, I hate hitting 1077 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,640 bit irons, I'm not good at it at all. 1078 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,640 And I'm the guy who always takes the driver and tries to reach 1079 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,640 something that I have no chance to reach or clear something that 1080 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,200 I did. I think in my own mind I could 1081 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,520 still clear or throttle it down enough where I think I can find 1082 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,920 a way to keep it in bound. So you don't listen to me for 1083 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,360 golf advice. This is just me painting some 1084 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,440 imagery here about the thought process of when things are going 1085 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,600 well versus when they're not right. 1086 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,520 So to continue the golf analogy, you know, say if it's 100 and 1087 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,840 you know, it's obviously different for everybody 210 1088 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,600 yards to clear something and you don't really feel right going 1089 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,000 with a three wood or a hybrid. So you, you, you keep the and 1090 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,080 you you can't clear it like it's dead terrain. 1091 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,360 Yeah, guy, you know what? I know that I should use the 1092 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,800 five or four or six, whatever it might be, depending upon how far 1093 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,040 you hit it. But I'm spraying. 1094 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,080 I feel terrible with the five iron today. 1095 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,120 You know I'm going for it. Boom. 1096 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,840 And then of course, drop 2 hitting three, you get an 8 1097 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,160 rounds done because you overthought it, whereas because 1098 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,800 you didn't start the round. Well, conversely, if you're 1099 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,520 actually playing well and even me as an awful golfer has some 1100 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,760 days where I feel like I'm in control and I I have a plan and 1101 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,440 I feel good on the range and I'm kind of piping it for me a 1102 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,320 little bit. Whereas you don't overthink it. 1103 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,760 You just, I was like, oh, I I can't clear that. 1104 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,120 All right. Hey, you, you look at a watch, 1105 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,440 somebody shoots it, whatever number you want to get. 1106 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,080 All right, what's it to clear? Yeah, yeah, All right. 5 iron 1107 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,840 boom. You just grab it. 1108 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,800 You go and or hybrid, you go. And you don't overthink it. 1109 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,360 And because the Knicks have now won sixth straight, they have 1110 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,640 more clarity in how they evaluate what they should do and 1111 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,760 what they might do. When you're losing 5 in a row 1112 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,600 and or four or five or five of six and everybody's banging on 1113 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,720 your team and this team's not good enough and I don't think 1114 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,560 they are good enough to win a championship. 1115 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,840 You you get a little tight, maybe you you see things that 1116 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,800 aren't there. You process things differently. 1117 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,400 And again, that lack of clarity might propel you or motivate you 1118 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,000 to go out and do something that is really not sensible now and 1119 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,160 big picture for the franchise. Because in a lot of ways, like, 1120 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,920 I can at least understand this philosophy. 1121 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,440 While I don't think that this iteration of the Knicks is going 1122 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,240 to win the championship, I certainly know that they've got 1123 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,400 a chance to represent the Eastern Conference. 1124 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,840 I, I, I know that if everybody's healthy, you know, and 1125 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,200 everybody's doing their thing. So I'm talking about the 1126 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,560 championship, though. I don't think they'll beat the 1127 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,600 top two teams out West myself, but you can at least say, well, 1128 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:36,680 all right, we we've we've stabilized their season. 1129 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560 We've got the haters off our back. 1130 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,680 And now I'm talking about Leon Rose. 1131 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,920 Let let me really evaluate what we should do all right, if this 1132 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,680 is really us, this recent version with the six straight 1133 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,560 wins, I could justify not getting a third team, getting a 1134 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,320 four team, giving up OG give it a mile, give it up Bridges, give 1135 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,080 it up this, give it up this, give it up that. 1136 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,240 And then have it a team where it's literally Giannis and 1137 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:04,960 Brunson and a bunch of scraps and hoping that you win and 1138 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,280 hoping that Giannis's Achilles does not blow up, which 1139 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,320 terrifies me because he's had two calf issues this year and he 1140 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,600 also had one in the 2024 playoffs where it was a real 1141 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,040 problem for him. And that's generally A 1142 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,840 precursor. Not always, I talked about this 1143 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,280 on Friday, but generally A precursor to something much more 1144 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,000 devastating. And that would be the shredding 1145 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,640 of the Achilles tendon when it rolls up and you're out for a 1146 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,680 year. You know what I mean? 1147 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,000 Ask Durant. Ask, ask all these guys. 1148 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,800 Bird ruptured his Achilles. You know, it's, it's brutal, 1149 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,320 especially for a guy who's built on quick twitch and bounce and 1150 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,360 athleticism. So well, I would still do it 1151 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,120 because I if I don't think that this team could win a 1152 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,200 championship and I don't right, then why wouldn't I do it? 1153 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,080 I would do it. But I've also operated through 1154 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,360 clarity and with clarity the entire season because from day 1155 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,600 one, going back to when I was on the fan after the first win of 1156 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,360 the season and going in, I remember saying teams not a 1157 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,240 championship team because I'm not a cat believer. 1158 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,640 I'm not a cat hater. I know it seems that way. 1159 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,880 I just think what he does not do well is going to devastate the 1160 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,360 team. When you're playing against a 1161 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,240 great team in the Eastern Conference Finals or the NBA 1162 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:20,080 Finals with a great roster, star players and a great coach and a 1163 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,400 winning culture, I don't see Kat being that guy. 1164 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,000 So because I believe that and in my mind, I know that because 1165 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,320 I've he's been around 10 years now, I'm doing it. 1166 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,080 But I know it's not necessarily the most prudent thing to do 1167 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,040 because you're giving everything up and he's bringing some entry 1168 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,960 baggage here as well. Knicks may have a better chance 1169 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,920 this season adding a minor piece than a major piece mid season. 1170 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,440 I would agree with that. I don't know what that is. 1171 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,720 You know, I'd like to get, I'd like to get a defensive guard 1172 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:50,320 out there. Obviously, you know, Drew 1173 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,360 Holiday, he's been mentioned big, you know, big game chops, 1174 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,160 big shots, good defender, helps out Jalen Brunson alleviates the 1175 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,160 pressure because he could bring the ball up a little bit. 1176 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,160 He can work off each other. You can't quite hunt the guards 1177 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,520 the way they do with Brunson in the half court. 1178 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,160 Every time somebody plays the Knicks, they're like, all right, 1179 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,760 we're attacking Brunson, we're attacking Cat. 1180 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,320 We're going right up Brunson, getting downhill and going 1181 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,640 through him because he's not strong. 1182 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,400 We're going around them because he's not fast and because the 1183 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,320 Knicks will know that and we'll have to compensate for that once 1184 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,720 they do. Now, the subset of the initial 1185 00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:25,720 attack is we get after Carl Anthony Towns in space and we go 1186 00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,760 by him or we go through him because as we saw, he couldn't 1187 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,880 even post up Russell Westbrook, who's 63. 1188 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,560 And while he gets some rebounds and he, you know, he's obviously 1189 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,240 a talented player. He's not a real physical force 1190 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,120 even though he's big. So there's just a lot here with 1191 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,280 the Knicks. And I think it's fascinating to 1192 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,800 see what they're going to do. And it's this week, man. 1193 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,720 It is this week. It's Thursday, 3:00 PM. 1194 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,560 And I would say that at the end of the day, I give you a couple 1195 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,520 of predictions here. I just gave you one with The 1196 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,920 Jets. I think it's going to be Reich 1197 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,120 or Roman. I do think that they'll kind of 1198 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,680 get it right with that experienced voice there. 1199 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,560 I do not think the Knicks will get Giannis. 1200 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,920 That's one prediction. I don't think they'll incredibly 1201 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,200 feel like they'll try incredibly aggressively to get him. 1202 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,640 And for some reason, I actually don't think he's going to be 1203 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960 dealt. And if he is, he's not, it's not 1204 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,800 going to be to the Garden, Miami, whatever. 1205 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,120 I I think the prudent thing for Milwaukee is to get to the 1206 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,960 offseason and understand that you're not going anywhere this 1207 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,920 year. Your top superstars, not 1208 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,000 healthy, one of the best players in the NBA or healthy or happy 1209 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,600 obviously wants out. Eventually you're going to have 1210 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,920 to acquiesce. But I don't know that you do it 1211 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,880 under this force pressure and like the spectacle that is now 1212 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,800 like the Giannis watch. I just don't know if you 1213 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,240 maximize the return. So I don't think he's going to 1214 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,040 be a Nick. I don't. 1215 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,720 All right, let me get this at J KB K13. 1216 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,080 I know it's a hypothetical, but you think the team would have 1217 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,000 been better this year if they kept Randall and Devo? 1218 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,720 I I don't know that's come up. Are we being Sally's that that 1219 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,640 conversation quite a bit. I love Viv Vincenzo, love them. 1220 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,640 I've got great respect for Randall. 1221 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,760 They weren't going to win a championship with Julius Randall 1222 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,760 either, you know now, if you had a situation where you were 1223 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,480 playing, let's say, let's say, see a lot of this too goes back 1224 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,000 to the inability to really trust Mitchell Robinson health wise, 1225 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,560 not from a basketball point of view. 1226 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,720 If you had like, do I think that this group could win a 1227 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,080 championship? You have Jalen at the one you've 1228 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,680 got. I mean, at that point you can't 1229 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,040 even put Bridges at the 2. Whatever. 1230 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,000 But I'm just going to do it for now. 1231 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,040 Bridges at the two, OG at the three, Randall at the four. 1232 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,560 And then Mitchell Robinson obviously wore Hartenstein. 1233 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,440 But you know, there were there were limitations that they can 1234 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,440 only offer him $60 million. But although it looks like the 1235 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,960 Thunder might trade him, bring him back, I take him in a RP. 1236 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,000 I love him, right? So to me, that's a starting 5 1237 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,760 that would be better or have more of a chance to win a 1238 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,520 championship than the starting 5 right now. 1239 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,480 Now you still have OG there, you have Bridges at the two 1240 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,720 Brunson's doing his thing and then you got, you know, Randall 1241 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,600 who's going to alleviate some of the scoring pressure and it's 1242 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,120 not a good defensive player, but he's not as bad as Brunson or 1243 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,800 cat. And then instead of having cat 1244 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,360 at the five, you got Mitchell Robinson, But he just he's not 1245 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,240 physically reliable and that really does change and prevent 1246 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,320 the Knicks from maybe doing things that I think from a 1247 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,280 basketball sensibility. They know they should do. 1248 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,800 Like if if if I'm I mean, I've been pointing out cats 1249 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,480 deficiency since the moment they got them. 1250 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,200 You don't think that they know that. 1251 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,800 Of course they do. They're not dumb, but because 1252 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:40,000 Mitchell Robinson is a 0 on offense and is a a is is not 1253 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,920 reliable physically. You know, you, you can't 1254 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,240 structure A-Team around him where we're going to just roll 1255 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,400 with him as one of our main horses and go from there. 1256 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,560 If you could. It's a totally different 1257 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,000 discussion, but that's part of the reason why they they brought 1258 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,600 in Cat, even though Cats not a perfect player at Rob Russell 1259 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,760 3023. Am I the only one who thinks 1260 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,880 Peyton's an asshole for firing his OC, disrespecting Bo Nicks? 1261 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,320 I mean, I don't know. Not exactly taking the poll 1262 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,880 about Sean Payton. I think that Sean Payton is. 1263 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,160 I think Sean Payton's what you want in the coach. 1264 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,640 He's unapologetic, he's fiery, he's brilliant, and he's a 1265 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,120 winner. Now, some of those other traits, 1266 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,280 yeah. I mean, a lot of people who are 1267 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,640 great at something they do project that. 1268 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,520 Inability maybe to relate to everybody in the room. 1269 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,040 And I'm not saying I respect that, but I think you just come 1270 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,760 to understand that that that's kind of the way it is with 1271 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,680 somebody who's great at especially a coach, you know, 1272 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,360 who's in charge of the whole building. 1273 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,080 You know, I, I like Sean Payne. I think he's great for football. 1274 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,000 I really do, even with suspension aside, whatever all 1275 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,360 the stuff that's happened, guys, you know, PE DS cheating. 1276 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,000 I mean, come on, We're going to start being in the the virtue of 1277 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,440 the moral, the police morale, the morality police now with 1278 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,480 Sean Payton. I mean, I'm I'm not going to do 1279 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,920 I really never have. I got a funny Sean Payton story 1280 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:01,320 for you, though. Maybe this is part of the reason 1281 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,520 why I like him. And even if he didn't do this 1282 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,800 for me and for tiki, then I think that I'd still speak very 1283 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,840 highly because I think he's a great guy. 1284 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,200 I wish he was coaching the chats. 1285 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,280 Why? What else do I have to say? 1286 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,400 Like if that's not the ultimate compliment or endorsement, I 1287 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,400 don't know what else to say. So he had he was with the Saints 1288 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,880 early with the Saints, I forget the exact. 1289 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,280 Well, maybe not that early, but we were doing the national show 1290 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:30,120 and Tiki was with Sean, with the Giants, as many of you know, and 1291 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,320 he had his number and Sean's a crazy and, and Tiki would always 1292 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,080 tell him he's like, man, he's such a dude bro. 1293 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,560 He would just come in and drop, you know, 9F bombs and just the 1294 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,400 whole locker room love them and just a guy's guy, you know, go 1295 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,880 out, have a steak, have a couple of scotches, let it RIP like a 1296 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,680 guy that even though he was a coach, just let it flow. 1297 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,240 Now when you're the head coach, it's got to be a little 1298 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,320 different. But as a positional coach, as he 1299 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,480 was with Tiki, the like the dudes loved them, the whole team 1300 01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,280 loved them, right? And he had committed to come on 1301 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,600 the show and do with the national show. 1302 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,360 We'd get a lot of coaches and you know, a lot of prominent 1303 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,800 national figures. We just did. 1304 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,000 That was great. And Sean Payton was booked to 1305 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,560 come on the game on the show. And I guess we had booked it, I 1306 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,400 don't know, like a month or so ago, and I guess Sean maybe 3 1307 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,480 weeks out. And I think Sean forgot that he 1308 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,960 was scheduled to do it. Now we're polite. 1309 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:22,960 Listen, it's not the worst thing. 1310 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,800 I mean, if Sean Payton doesn't show up, it's not like we can't 1311 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,840 do a show. If you're structuring your show 1312 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,240 around the guest, you have no show. 1313 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,680 But let's just get that out there. 1314 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,760 You're not a very good host if you can't do the show because of 1315 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,400 guest bags. Like you got to be able to vamp, 1316 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,800 but you got to be able to pivot and you got to be able to talk, 1317 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,640 right? So, I mean, I wanted to talk to 1318 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,240 him because there was some real good things to talk about, but I 1319 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,680 wasn't overly concerned. Anyway, Long story short, he's 1320 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,160 texting with him and Sean was like, oh, you know, I, I, I 1321 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,480 forgot, but I know I committed. They had a game. 1322 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,040 It was a preseason game. Sean Payton called us from the 1323 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,360 tunnel of the Silverdome, not the Silverdome of the the 1324 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,840 Superdome. Silverdome was WrestleMania 3 of 1325 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,680 the Superdome and actually did the interview for a good 15 1326 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,120 minutes on the air while he's in his coaches gear, when he's in 1327 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,080 the tunnel on his on a cell phone. 1328 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,360 So I thought it was a pretty stand up move. 1329 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,080 So I'm a Sean Payton guy. I know he rubs people the wrong 1330 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,840 way. I get it. 1331 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,320 I think once you're on your on his bad side, it's it's a rough 1332 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,240 thing, but I think he's a great coach. 1333 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,120 I really do. I think too. 1334 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,200 So talking about the Knicks, it's been a big week here with 1335 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,600 with Giannis and the trade deadline. 1336 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,680 Maybe they just get, you know, somebody for the margin, some 1337 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,600 sort of ancillary piece where a little defender, you know, 1338 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,520 preferably in in the back court next to Brunson, maybe an extra 1339 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,600 shooter, whatever. Again, I don't think Giannis is 1340 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,440 coming. But you know what I can't take? 1341 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,760 And they use the word glazing, right? 1342 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,520 Glazing, I mean, just the way people glaze them. 1343 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,200 Ron. I just, I really, I can't stand 1344 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,880 it. I mean, last night, Reggie 1345 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,840 Miller and, and Reggie's one of these guys. 1346 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,040 Like even as a Knick guy, I don't hate Reggie because I 1347 01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,600 think Reggie's incredibly entertaining. 1348 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,480 But Reggie's got to get over himself. 1349 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,360 First of all, the nonsense of owning the Knicks. 1350 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,120 And dude, the Knicks beat you more than you beat the Knicks. 1351 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,160 Can somebody please get the memo to Reggie Miller when he gets on 1352 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,280 TV and he's got the suit, he's all Natalie attired and all 1353 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,240 buttoned up and looking good, which he does. 1354 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,360 You know, he talks like he was 27 and six against the Knicks at 1355 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,800 the Garden. Dude, you lost more to the 1356 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,720 Knicks then you beat them. And he's like, he is 1357 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,040 misremembered or recreated this narrative in his mind based on 1358 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,480 one or two moments. Like, I mean, all right, Reggie 1359 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,600 was Reggie was good. I mean, really good. 1360 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,440 And Reggie was a villain that we love to hate. 1361 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,840 And Reggie made New York, Indiana, that rivalry basically 1362 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,560 like Nick's Bulls, Nick's Heat. But Riley, like it was 1363 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,600 ridiculous and I missed that stuff like the rivalries are 1364 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,800 kind of gone now for a lot of reasons that I I won't get into 1365 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,080 now. I don't want to get sidetracked 1366 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,040 here, but hey, come on, Reg enough. 1367 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,960 I mean, LeBron James throws down an alley, you dunk last night. 1368 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,000 You see him falling all over Mike Tirico. 1369 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,760 Oh, whoa, give me a break, dude. You call it a game. 1370 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,800 You know, I don't need you to be yes, that was a very nice move 1371 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,720 by LeBron as the Knicks. You know, you don't have to be 1372 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,840 so objective where you sound boring, like it's a 1939 1373 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,800 broadcast of the of the World Series. 1374 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,280 But hey, jeez, can you have a spec, a speck of objectivity? 1375 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,360 Enough with the Reggie Miller stuff. 1376 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,840 I'm just getting tired of it, man. 1377 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,720 And then and and even Mike Tirico, who I think is a good 1378 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,120 broadcaster, he's polished. Yeah. 1379 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,600 He's getting a little corny as he's getting old. 1380 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,440 He really is. Like, there was a point where 1381 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,600 Mike Tirico was the best, like, in terms of, you know, no 1382 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,600 frills, no nonsense. No, you know, no, no kissing up. 1383 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,440 Like, he's just now he's one of these guys where he just thinks 1384 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,640 he's so funny and so cool. You're not you're a geek. 1385 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,040 I mean, really, I I say that affectionately, like Mike 1386 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,160 Tirico's a geek. I mean, Mike Tirico, what are 1387 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,640 you? Come on, come on, dude. 1388 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,600 Like, I don't know. The way he presents himself now, 1389 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,400 even with the interviews with Jordan. 1390 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,480 I I'm just I am a fan. But I I guess when you heard it, 1391 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,200 when, when you hit a certain level of fame, I think too many 1392 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,600 people, they just take it that next step too far. 1393 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,520 And now you're a little preachy and the delivery is not as 1394 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,560 appealing. Like I like young, hungry, up 1395 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,320 and coming Mike Tirico, who I thought was buttoned up and 1396 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,560 awesome and he's still a very talented guy. 1397 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,120 But I say this because last night this was just stupid, 1398 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,080 right? So last night there is a 1399 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,920 situation where I hope there was a foul or whatever. 1400 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,520 What? There was a late whistle, all 1401 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,320 right, that negatively impacted the Knicks and Tracy Morgan, 1402 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,240 who's great. So Tracy Morgan's always 1403 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,640 courtside and he's right next to Tirico. 1404 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,320 He's literally. So it's like Tracy Morgan here. 1405 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,560 And then the NBC booth, right? So you got Tirico next to him, 1406 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,960 then you get Reggie, then you got Purdue's. 1407 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:41,520 Whatever. Yeah. 1408 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:48,520 Stats guys, and Tirico is on the broadcast turning to Tracy 1409 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,440 Morgan. He's like Morgan. 1410 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,040 He's like, what do you think about that, Tracy? 1411 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,400 Well, first of all, Tracy Morgan's not miked up #1 and for 1412 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,120 somebody who's been doing broadcasting for 30 years, I 1413 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,200 would think that Mike Tirico would understand. 1414 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,520 When you ask somebody a question in the crowd who's not miked up, 1415 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,240 we're not going to hear the answer when we're watching at 1416 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,000 home on TV. So like #1 it was, it was like 1417 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,600 sloppy and, and that, you know, and I understand that because 1418 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:17,120 that does happen where like if I'm doing a show and I'm out in 1419 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,440 a public setting and I've done a million of these, right? 1420 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,560 And I don't mean like a BTN Sal event that's actually on the 1421 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,200 air, which was great by the way. I'm talking about like, if I'm 1422 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,760 doing a show in front of a live audience, whether it's a Super 1423 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,200 Bowl show, whether it's a million remotes over the years 1424 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,200 at bars and restaurants, what you get is right. 1425 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,320 And imagine yourself doing the show and there's say 500 people, 1426 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,920 1000 people in front of you. And you know, you, you can hear 1427 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,960 people yelling stuff. And it's hard as as a young 1428 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,280 broadcaster, not to like, want to respond to him. 1429 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,320 But if you do, you're not having a, you're having a conversation 1430 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,880 that's not being transmitted on the air, which by the way, is 1431 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,440 what you're getting paid for. So Mike Tirico's going on and 1432 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,280 belaboring it. And I'm getting, and then he's 1433 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,520 like, oh, what's the problem? Like he's trying to talk for 1434 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,160 Tracy. I'm like, like, that's not 1435 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,880 funny. It's it's not really hitting the 1436 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,720 mark. And then he's like, oh, you 1437 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,680 know, I'm sorry. Get a little distracted here, 1438 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:09,920 dude. You got distracted because 1439 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,800 you're the one who started talking to Tracy Morgan. 1440 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,480 Tracy didn't start talking to you. 1441 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,319 Now, if you want to, if you want to have some fun and you want to 1442 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:22,040 slap a pair of headsets on Tracy Morgan and you want to have him 1443 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,760 do 30 seconds of commentary, it's not the NBA Finals. 1444 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,399 That's fine. That's funny. 1445 01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:27,720 I love Morgan. He's great. 1446 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,640 He's funny, he's cool. He's a big Nick guy. 1447 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,560 Let's go. At least he might balance out 1448 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,479 the booth. Get a little Nick, you know, a 1449 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,800 little Nick Love on that broadcast outside of the the 1450 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,960 Bootlick and Reggie Miller. I mean, Reggie, you'd think that 1451 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,880 Reggie. You would think that Reggie was 1452 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,319 Michael Jordan. Dude, you wrote like, come on. 1453 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:52,600 Enough So I don't know, man, I, I, I'm watching the game and I'm 1454 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,479 like, how does Mike Tirico, who's done this for a gazillion 1455 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,760 years at the highest level and very well, how does he not 1456 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,680 understand that's not the biggest deal? 1457 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,520 I'm not saying it is, but how does he not understand that 1458 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,840 whatever you're asking Tracy and whatever Tracy's saying, we 1459 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,040 don't know what he's saying like and it just it wasn't for it 1460 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,319 just kept going on and on. Reggie. 1461 01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:15,319 Oh, whoa, what a dunk by LeBron. Big deal. 1462 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,960 Everybody kisses Lebron's ass. I can't wait until LeBron James 1463 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,319 is gone. I just can't wait. 1464 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,600 I'm so over. I've said this a million times. 1465 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,880 I am so over LeBron. I don't care about LeBron. 1466 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,720 I don't want to watch LeBron anymore. 1467 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,560 And then there, and I don't even know if they did it. 1468 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,120 There was this. I, they better not have. 1469 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,359 I don't think they did. There was this little 1470 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:38,800 undercurrent of, oh, should the Knicks have a then should the 1471 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,160 Knicks have a, a montage for LeBron James before the game, 1472 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,840 just in case it's his final game at the Garden? 1473 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,840 You had your mind. I could care less about LeBron 1474 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,359 James's final game at the Garden. 1475 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,399 You know why? I'm going to tell you why? 1476 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,800 Because LeBron James, when he was at that point the best 1477 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,200 player in the world, he no longer is. 1478 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,200 He's still really good. And what he's doing is amazing. 1479 01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,840 I'm not trying to dump all over the guys. 4041. 1480 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,160 He's getting up and down the court like he's 30 when he wants 1481 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,920 to run and he doesn't play defense anymore. 1482 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,680 But when he wants to play hard, he's still really good, right? 1483 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,680 And you know, behind Jordan, behind, behind Kareem, you know, 1484 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,800 he's one of the top 345 players of all times, not the GOAT, but 1485 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,200 he's one of them, right? So I get it and I respected the 1486 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,360 accomplishments. But why I don't like if the 1487 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,400 Knicks and if they did it, somebody hit me up on the 1488 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,440 messages. And if they do do it, say he 1489 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,200 says during the summer, hey, this year coming up as my last 1490 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,480 year, if they present the montage to LeBron James, the 1491 01:10:31,480 --> 01:10:34,840 Knicks are pathetic. Like that is just the height of 1492 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,920 weakness here. And I'm going to tell you why. 1493 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,480 Because when we were drowning and it was Isaiah and it was 1494 01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:43,800 Eddie Curry and it was mistake. After that Stevie Francis broken 1495 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,120 down and an old broken down, You know, no disrespect, but Tracy 1496 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,840 McGrady, Jaylen Rose, all the thing, they were Knicks, You 1497 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,800 know, in case you forgot, like I didn't stop watching the Knicks 1498 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,480 when they were trash. I I watched them. 1499 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,600 You know, all the coaches recycle 23 wins, you know, never 1500 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,040 getting lucky in the draft and, you know, never getting one of 1501 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,640 those ping pong balls to fold our way. 1502 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,600 All those years, many well a couple of those years, LeBron 1503 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,400 James had a chance to come and want the Garden. 1504 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,520 And you know why he didn't come and want the garden? 1505 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,120 Cuz he didn't have the stones to do it because he knows deep down 1506 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,000 that he's not that guy. He knows deep down he won't say 1507 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,720 it cuz everything he espouses all. 1508 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,720 Look at the stats or look at me. Yeah, I'm the best. 1509 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,240 OK, OK. Now Jordan didn't need to go out 1510 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,160 there and recruit Bosh and Wade. He just made Pippen better. 1511 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,880 He just made Horace Grant better. 1512 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,400 He made Steve Kerr and Trent Tucker and all the other 1513 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,800 shooters that Craig Hodges. He made them better. 1514 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,200 Why? Because he's better than you, 1515 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:45,160 because he's Jordan all right. And the way it went with LeBron 1516 01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:48,640 where at those at those points of inflection, like he's got to 1517 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,680 get a championship or then the way he's you know, it's it was a 1518 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,240 different discussion. He decided during which is his 1519 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,680 right. I don't begrudge him for it. 1520 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,560 I'm just not going to reward him with a stupid montage. 1521 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,520 He never once had the balls to come to the Garden, say, all 1522 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,560 right, let's go New York, let's go Knicks get on my if I'm 1523 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,280 Superman, if I'm the GOAT, get on my shoulders and let's fix 1524 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,480 this thing. Let's win in New York. 1525 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,520 And then now I I want to be I'm getting a little worked up here. 1526 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,000 LeBron always gets me worked up. I'm just so over them. 1527 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,120 You know what I officially lost LeBron. 1528 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,680 This is a little side piece. I just I just getting all him 1529 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:29,720 mess around that, you know, when when he was in the bubble right 1530 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,640 now. There's going to be 1531 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,840 controversial for some and I'm and I'm not trying to be 1532 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,240 polarizing for no reason. Don't be a fake intellect. 1533 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,920 All right, And I like there's nothing worse than somebody who 1534 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,160 thinks that they're worldly and I'm not talking about anybody 1535 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,320 now and intelligent. And then they try to weigh in on 1536 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:52,720 something and they are lost, whether it's foreign policy or, 1537 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,280 you know, takes on the economy or whatever. 1538 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,360 I mean, like, not even sports stuff, like you think you're a 1539 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,360 person of the intellect and then somebody calls you on it and you 1540 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,720 can't spit back 1 regurgitated answer. 1541 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,840 And I'm talking about when LeBron was in the bubble and he 1542 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,760 was holding the autobiography of Malcolm X, which is an 1543 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,560 incredibly important book. And he walks in and he's 1544 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,960 holding, it's a prop. He used that. 1545 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,960 He used that important moment of history right as a prop. 1546 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,040 Think about when that was, that was during COVID, that was at 1547 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,600 the height of I know there's been other moments and moments 1548 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,360 that have been been inflamed over time, but, and it's still 1549 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,680 kind of like that now a little bit unfortunately, but for sure 1550 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,160 politically. But during COVID, it was at, I 1551 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,440 mean, it was at an apex that I, I had not really seen in my 1552 01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:45,640 lifetime only because I was too young to understand like the 1553 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:46,920 end. And you know, it's not a 1554 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,560 Republican, Democrat thing at all, but at the end of the 1555 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,800 Carter administration with the hostages and Iran, and when you 1556 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,640 have mortgage rates 20% and you had the, the recession and you 1557 01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,440 have people waiting on line to get gas. 1558 01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:02,560 Like, I mean, I, I, I, I didn't really hear my parents talk 1559 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,560 about that because they were just focused on putting food on 1560 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,160 the table. But I'm sure if I was an adult, 1561 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,240 I would have really understood what was going on rather than 1562 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,480 catching up later on in life. But if somebody asked me about 1563 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,040 that, I can at least give you a snapshot of what happened when I 1564 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,920 was five years old. They asked LeBron what, what's 1565 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,120 the book about? They couldn't say anything. 1566 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,200 I mean that that was so embarrassing and that told me so 1567 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,160 much about LeBron. Let me ask you this. 1568 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,680 If Kobe Bryant, rest in peace, Kobe. 1569 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,880 If Kobe Bryant comes in to a press conference within a 1570 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,600 Malcolm Malcolm X autobiography or something that is incredibly 1571 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:43,160 important to somebody to him, and he's asked about it, Kobe 1572 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,880 would have given you a dissertation. 1573 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,080 Kobe would have A-Z. Here's why I love it. 1574 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,520 Here's what I agree with. Here's what I disagree with. 1575 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,600 Here's what he was saying. Here's what we need to fix here. 1576 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,040 Here's where we are as a society. 1577 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,520 LeBron couldn't even string together a sentence. 1578 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,520 He was a good man. You know, a lot of the same 1579 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,600 problems of Flick today. No, no shit. 1580 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,760 No kidding. And we, we know that. 1581 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,880 Yeah. We're trying to fix stuff. 1582 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,680 We know, and it would have been very interesting to hear your 1583 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,160 thoughts on the actual book that you're carrying around like 1584 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,480 some, you know, some intellect. I'm not saying you're dumb. 1585 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,200 Don't, don't hijack this segment. 1586 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,920 This is going to be all over social media, I'm sure. 1587 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,560 Don't hijack this. But if you're going to come with 1588 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,240 something, don't come with a prop. 1589 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,320 Come with a purpose, you know, So I've just that's that was the 1590 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,560 last point where I'm like, you know what, I'm just enough of 1591 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,520 this guy. Then the self glorification and 1592 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,480 then, you know, never wanting to never having the stones to come 1593 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:38,200 to the Knicks, right? That's fine. 1594 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,760 That's your decision. But I'm not going to glorify you 1595 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,960 on some some massive Jumbotron for a guy who never wanted the 1596 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,480 heat at the Garden because you didn't have the shoulders to 1597 01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:48,040 bear it. I don't need that. 1598 01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:50,320 And you didn't have the shoulders to bear it to win a 1599 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,240 championship without your boys, you know, which is another 1600 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,600 reason why you're not the GOAT. You can't shine Jordan's shoes. 1601 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,080 You can't. And Oh yeah, by the way, I think 1602 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,400 Kareem is number 26 championships, 6 MVPS, all that 1603 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,720 stuff, right? Most points before LeBron broke 1604 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,200 it based on longevity, taking more shots, 3 point shots. 1605 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,960 Games changed. Kareem was better. 1606 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:13,560 It was MJ, Kareem then maybe, maybe, maybe LeBron James. 1607 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,320 Maybe you could also have a Wilt conversation or a Bill Russell 1608 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,520 conversation or a Magic or a Bird cop. 1609 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,600 There's others, right? But at least Lil Alcindor at 1610 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,800 that point he was, that was still his name one in Milwaukee. 1611 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,520 I won with Oscar Robertson, but it's not like him and Oscar got 1612 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,960 together and go Oscar. Let's pair up. 1613 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,280 He was in Milwaukee, drafted by the Bucks out of UCLA, wins 1614 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,520 championship. Then he goes to the Lakers and 1615 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,440 it's trade and then the Lakers draft Magic. 1616 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,640 So it's not like he went out and Magic was a five time All Star, 1617 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,560 first team, all NBA, your Magic. Listen, let's get together. 1618 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,600 We both need a championship. So like the championship hunt 1619 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,640 has really altered how I perceive some of these players. 1620 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,120 LeBron to me comes across as a phony. 1621 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,720 LeBron to me too often has weighed into very, very hot 1622 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,560 topic, very sensitive issues a little bit early. 1623 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,600 And he was wrong on some stuff. Not everything. 1624 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,240 But LeBron, I'm just not a LeBron James fan. 1625 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,440 I respect the way he plays the game. 1626 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:11,640 I respect the way he takes care of his body. 1627 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,520 I respect the accomplishments. But a video montage board for 1628 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,520 LeBron James? Get the hell out of here. 1629 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,680 Yeah, you could do that when he goes back to Cleveland like the 1630 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,800 other night, or say, if he finishes up next year back in 1631 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,600 Miami and he goes back to Staples Center or he goes to 1632 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,600 Miami, that's fine. You want to do it for a team 1633 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,320 that he played for, the Knicks, the Garden, Get lost. 1634 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,840 Not interested. Not interested at all, please, 1635 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,160 you know, And now, and I didn't, I didn't read it. 1636 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,560 I want to be fair, a gentleman who I've got a lot of respect 1637 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:41,520 for it. I do have to read this. 1638 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,080 That's why I've got to weigh my comments. 1639 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,400 Not because I'm afraid or reticent to give you my opinion. 1640 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,720 I would imagine by now I don't, you know, that I don't really 1641 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,920 hold back on much. I just couldn't read it because 1642 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,120 I don't have the, I don't subscribe to it. 1643 01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:58,360 So Ian O'Connor, I think he's a great journalist. 1644 01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:01,360 He's a true journalist. He's not a, he's not an 1645 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,640 arsonist, he's not a race baiter. 1646 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,960 He's not a hater. He's a practical journalist, 1647 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,440 right, who I think does great work. 1648 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,640 And I'm saying that even though we went to Mariston, you know, I 1649 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,400 did as well. I'm not saying that because he's 1650 01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:14,960 a fellow fellow Marist man. Ian was there about 10 years 1651 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,920 before me. I've only met him a couple of 1652 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,640 times. We've talked a few times via 1653 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,120 text. Wouldn't consider him a friend 1654 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,360 because I don't know him on that level. 1655 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,560 Never broke bread with him. Anyway, I just want to set the 1656 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,560 stage there. Ian had a tweet this morning to 1657 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,720 a link that he wrote on The Athletic for an article about 1658 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:38,960 why the Knicks should be open to bringing him or why LeBron 1659 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,160 should finish his career at the Garden. 1660 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,920 What I I couldn't fundamentally oppose that as I just as you 1661 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:51,280 heard for the last 5 minutes anymore, I'm incapable of of 1662 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,320 really pushing back on that more unless I just start cursing and 1663 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,960 ranting unnecessarily, which I'm not going to do and just come 1664 01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,840 across as a complete raving lunatic. 1665 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,400 I've chronicled why I'm not a LeBron James fan. 1666 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,040 I don't need to go overboard and just start taking shots. 1667 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,360 No, I don't need LeBron James the Garden at all. 1668 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,040 So with all due respect to somebody who is very good at his 1669 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:16,280 job and is very a respectful, great journalistic integrity, 1670 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:19,360 very smart, very talented, very accomplished. 1671 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,920 I don't agree at all. Now, I can't say I don't agree 1672 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,000 with what? Like I can't be more specific 1673 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,280 because the I don't have the contents of the article because 1674 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,000 I don't subscribe to the Athletic, right. 1675 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,840 But that caught me for a little curveball today. 1676 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,720 And then you know enough, Ben Stiller's tweets are getting on 1677 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,560 my last nerve too. I mean, Ben Stiller, he tweets 1678 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,360 about LeBron last night. Where is it? 1679 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,520 I mean, this guy, I mean, you want to talk, but dude, I mean, 1680 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,880 come on, man. He says yeah. 1681 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,040 Always exciting to see King James play in person and hear 1682 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,320 the Garden appreciation. This will not be forever and we 1683 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:55,720 will miss him. No, we won't. 1684 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,680 I won't miss him at all. Speak for yourself, Ben. 1685 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,000 Speak for yourself. And by the way, I think that I 1686 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,040 speak for more people than you when it comes to the Knicks. 1687 01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:08,720 Because I think I've got a better read on the Knicks. 1688 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,760 If you listen to Ben Stiller, it's Mr. Happiness. 1689 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,400 Oh, the Knicks have lost five straight, but I still think 1690 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,920 we're going to be good. I I mean Ben Stiller and and 1691 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:21,320 it's OK to slant optimistically, but don't speak for us when you 1692 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:26,560 say we now you're saying us. So say you, you're going to miss 1693 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,160 LeBron James. I would respect that. 1694 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,960 I and Bob, of course, when I saw what he tweeted because he used 1695 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,040 the word we and he's now speaking for most of us, if not 1696 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,440 many of us. And I put I had a sub tweeted 1697 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,320 and I wrote back, speak for yourself. 1698 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,120 Not going to miss him at all. The Garden's going to miss him. 1699 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,360 Why I'm not going to miss him. He never wanted the Knicks. 1700 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:49,880 He had multiple chances. What am I going to miss, miss 1701 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,600 LeBron James? No, no way. 1702 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,720 You know what I remember too, and I don't, I don't know if 1703 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,480 just, well, I mean, I know the world's different. 1704 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:01,760 I'm not trying to make this bigger than than it is, but I 1705 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,040 know the world is very different. 1706 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,360 I do understand that for sure. But I remember when I was young, 1707 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:14,200 if I had to guess, the year, 80, whatever, 88 ish, whatever year 1708 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,640 maybe J Rod, do me a favor, look up. 1709 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:16,640 Can you please do me a favor, buddy? 1710 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,680 Can you look up what year Doctor Jay retired and what year Kareem 1711 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,960 Abdul Jabbar retired, please? Thanks, buddy. 1712 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,040 And then just pop in. Let me know when you got him in, 1713 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,200 but I'll set it up now. I remember when Kareem came in 1714 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,880 for his last game at the Garden. That was like obviously Patrick 1715 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,200 was on the team. Gerald Wilkins, Mark Jackson, 1716 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,760 88, I don't know, just 87, whatever it was something like 1717 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,800 that. I remember the Knicks gave them 1718 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,600 a really nice rocking chair. And he's also from New York. 1719 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,800 He's one of us. Doctor J. 1720 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,200 Retired in 88 and then Kareem retired in 89. 1721 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,720 OK, so. I was in the neighborhood, so 1722 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,480 Doctor J was 88, and that was obviously Ewing and those guys, 1723 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,600 89 the next year. And I remember both of those 1724 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,880 gentlemen got a, a really nice parting gift from the garden, as 1725 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,840 they should. And you've seen that with, you 1726 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,720 know, Jeter got that, Mariano got that. 1727 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,560 You kind of go to certain stadiums, they give you 1728 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,360 something symbolic of like that city, you know, like Mariano 1729 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,160 maybe got a surfboard from the Angels out West or some cool 1730 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,400 stuff like that. It's a chance to really 1731 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,880 celebrate a luminary of the sport. 1732 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,480 And it's happened many times and I don't know, maybe hit me 1733 01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:22,760 because I was younger. I don't know. 1734 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,120 And I just remember, like Doctor J and Kareem seemed so old at 1735 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,840 that point, unlike LeBron, who still physically looks like he's 1736 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,000 3233, you know, dresses different, dresses younger, 1737 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,000 different, you know, different swag, all that stuff. 1738 01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:41,400 But there was a reverence with Kareem and there was a reverence 1739 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,840 with Doctor J. And I feel like with LeBron, and 1740 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,360 he's not the only one, this guy is there. 1741 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:49,840 There's like it's, it's divisive. 1742 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,120 And I, I know some of the reasons why it is divisive, but 1743 01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:55,520 I just don't think that New York Knicks fans have any real 1744 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,120 interest in showering LeBron James with his adulation in this 1745 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,800 affection. Because you didn't do a damn 1746 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,600 thing for us. You didn't. 1747 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,920 And it's something you know, I, I don't know, I, I just, I, I 1748 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,760 really, I don't get it. I don't get it at will, at will 1749 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:15,040 or Willa Verde 664. I would not will I had the show 1750 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,320 on in my office and my Co worker Vanessa said man this guy really 1751 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,040 hates LeBron. Very funny moment here. 1752 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,160 I told her to subscribe Attaboy will Vanessa if you still no, I 1753 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,280 don't hate him. I'm just at first I don't hate 1754 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:33,840 anybody like unless you are a dark, you know, criminal without 1755 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,320 remorse, that's not even my job to judge you. 1756 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,840 That's obviously that's God's so, but I don't hate anybody. 1757 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,800 There's certain people I don't want to be around. 1758 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,080 There's certain people, you know, I just, I don't really 1759 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,600 connect with. There's certain people I dislike 1760 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,240 and I just don't even really well, there's parts of me that 1761 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,760 do this. I I do dislike some things 1762 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,720 LeBron has done, but hates the wrong word. 1763 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,080 I just don't feel LeBron the way some do. 1764 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,560 Like the glorification of LeBron James is something that's never 1765 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,320 going to come out of my mouth. It's not happening. 1766 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,560 It it happened at one point, you know, where I would happily 1767 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,120 engage in the GOAT conversation, you know, halfway through his 1768 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,320 career. I mean, look at this guy. 1769 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,920 Geez, look at this transformative figure, this big, 1770 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,600 fast, explosive athlete who could do everything on the 1771 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,240 basketball court, a prototype for the all around game. 1772 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,160 But like Steph has become the prototype for shooters and how 1773 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,960 he's in how he's impacted the game. 1774 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,320 You know, I've I've always give given LeBron his due as a 1775 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,600 basketball player. But even when giving him his due 1776 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,360 as a basketball player, you got to understand this is the same 1777 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:37,200 player who willingly passed up shots in big spots for reasons 1778 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,920 off the court or whatever. You know, he had some issues 1779 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,320 with coaching or there was a story going around that I'm not 1780 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,720 going to get into because I don't know if it's true. 1781 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,240 And I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but there was a 1782 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,960 lack of engagement. And you know, that Celtic 1783 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,240 series, what I'm talking about a lack of engagement with LeBron 1784 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,360 where he just stopped shooting. You think Michael Jordan's doing 1785 01:24:55,360 --> 01:25:00,000 that a big game, do you? No, I know Kobe's not doing 1786 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,280 that. I know Kobe's humping shot after 1787 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,360 shot after shot. You know, so it's not hate, 1788 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,520 Vanessa and I love now we see if that were at a very interesting 1789 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,560 point. Think about this guy and guys 1790 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,360 and gals when you when when BT Unleashed started, it wasn't and 1791 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,520 that was right before Christmas. It was not being streamed in 1792 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,720 offices. You know, you're like us, my 1793 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,520 guy. Be hopefully my guy BT I'm going 1794 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,680 to support him. I'm going to follow him. 1795 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,480 I like his takes, I like his style, I like his energy, like 1796 01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:31,400 those core BT fans. And I love you guys, You know 1797 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,240 that. And you follow me. 1798 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,240 No matter you'd follow me to the end of the earth. 1799 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:38,040 If I'm going to do a radio show wherever or some sort of 1800 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,320 content, you're going to find me. 1801 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,800 You're going to seek me out because you enjoy what I do. 1802 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,040 And that's so awesome to me, so meaningful, right? 1803 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,480 But now what's happening now? We got BT Unleashed being 1804 01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:51,960 streamed in offices where you got the Co workers popping in, 1805 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,600 the Co workers now weighing in with comments. 1806 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,320 All this guy, he really hates LeBron. 1807 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,800 I don't hate LeBron, Vanessa. I'm just telling you why I don't 1808 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,440 want to honor him at the gardens. 1809 01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:03,440 Big difference, big difference. But how about that, J Rod? 1810 01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:04,800 We're getting some streamage now. 1811 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:09,800 We are now getting streamage in. Audiences, come on. 1812 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,400 Throwing it up in the break room. 1813 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,240 Let's go. Yeah, dude. 1814 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,880 I love it. So the water coolers, you know, 1815 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,800 it used to be back in the day, one of the things that they 1816 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,760 would that the radio people and many of them had zero ID what 1817 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,160 they were talking about. Like most, there were a few good 1818 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,760 ones. I'm not going to name the ones 1819 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,760 who I'm not going to be that guy, but there were some radio 1820 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,640 people who like they were on the air for a minute, but they just 1821 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,720 weren't good, right? They just had no vibe, no flow, 1822 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,920 no presents. They were like reading news and 1823 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,520 they were doing a show like they were reading news and it it's 1824 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,800 not like I'm not trying to hate on them. 1825 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,280 It's just this. Then they eventually moved into 1826 01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:48,080 like a role. ESPN had a lot of these. 1827 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,720 I will say that ESPN had a lot of these people where and some 1828 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,560 good ones for sure, But a couple who would come in and they come 1829 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,720 in from Bristol and they'd say this is the way you need to do 1830 01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,280 an interview. And then you know, this is the 1831 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,960 way you need to structure this and this. 1832 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,360 I'm like, all right, come on, can I just open the mic and do 1833 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,520 men be me, do the show? We're not here to, you know, 1834 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,520 like let's go at the but but they would always say, and I 1835 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,040 agree with this, they would say you want to be able to do stuff 1836 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:18,080 that becomes water cooler topics like when you get you know what 1837 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,160 I mean? Now a lot of people work from 1838 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,680 home. Maybe it's not quite as 1839 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,080 applicable in the early 2000s or mid 2000s or even a little bit 1840 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,080 beyond that. Hey, did you hear what BT and 1841 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,480 and Stephen A and BT said at the water, like at the water cooler? 1842 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,520 Did you hear what those guys were saying about the Knicks? 1843 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,240 What about Isaiah or about, you know, a rod or about Jeter or 1844 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,080 about, you know, David Wright? That's water cooler stuff back 1845 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,440 back then and maybe it's not quite the same, but we get a 1846 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:42,360 little BT unleashed water cooler action. 1847 01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:44,480 I mean, we're going to be living large problem. 1848 01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:49,200 Yes, Sir. Yeah, very hype. 1849 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,360 What does that? Say, did I read that one? 1850 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,720 I did. No, I did not. 1851 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,080 Let's pop that guy up. I got it. 1852 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,360 All right. Oh, you see, that happens when I 1853 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,360 go to pop it up, right? When I go to pop it up And 1854 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,400 you're popping it up at the same time to get that, like, tennis 1855 01:28:00,440 --> 01:28:01,920 match, right? OK, so we got to figure that 1856 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,240 out. So Jesus, Navarro, 4135. 1857 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,200 Jesus, what's happening, buddy? 100% agree with your LeBron 1858 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,160 take. Take the the MJ versus LeBron 1859 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,040 stuff is generational debate, my son and I go at it almost every 1860 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,560 day. Yeah, I mean, and thank you for 1861 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:17,120 that. Jesus. 1862 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,600 There's something to be said for carrying the torch for your guy. 1863 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,400 I understand that. Like Mike Francesa carries the 1864 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,040 torch for Mickey Mantle and you know Mickey Mantle and and 1865 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,080 always has and always will. When I get it, I respect it. 1866 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,400 Mickey Mantle, the numbers, the presents, the contribution of 1867 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,240 the contributions, the World Series championships. 1868 01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:38,000 His place in the game is rarefied and revered enough 1869 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:43,080 where it's not out of place for Mike to defend his guy from his 1870 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,200 generation and make him whatever he makes him out to be. 1871 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,640 Which is why when younger people defend LeBron in the context of 1872 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,920 the GOAT, I don't even begrudge them because they're reacting to 1873 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,040 something that they have watched and it's more intimate and 1874 01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,000 they're more familiar. And, you know, even though it's 1875 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,720 not like when I would see a highlight of Bill Russell or Bob 1876 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,200 Cousy dribbling with his head down or old Oscar Robertson or 1877 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,680 Jerry West footage, it was grainy, sometimes black and 1878 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,440 white. And I'd sit there and I'd say, 1879 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,240 come on, how is this guy one of the best man? 1880 01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,600 Like when my dad would tell me, I get it. 1881 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,680 There's those territorial parameters, those those, those 1882 01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,920 lanes that we generally gravitate to and defend, those 1883 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,440 that we saw. But Michael Jordan was so 1884 01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:28,920 different, so different and so much better for so many reasons 1885 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,560 that to me, it's indisputable. But I get it. 1886 01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,960 You know, each generation wants to defend their guy, and I'm not 1887 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,840 mad at that. Jordan's mental fortitude with 1888 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,280 Lebron's unmatched physical gifts would have combined on 1889 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:41,960 that. Now that's a good point for the 1890 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,240 undisputed GOAT, bar none, LeBron psyche. 1891 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,280 LeBron psyche with Jordan's physical attributes would have 1892 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:55,440 been Lance Stephenson. LeBron psyche with that is a 1893 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,040 very interesting way to frame it. 1894 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,240 I don't entirely agree. I mean, you know, and Lance 1895 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,440 Stephenson was good, but I so I know what you mean by that. 1896 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,040 Lance Stephenson was almost a poor man's LeBron. 1897 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,640 That's not a knock. He could do everything, just not 1898 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,360 at the level that LeBron could. He could defend, he could score, 1899 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,560 he can handle. Yeah. 1900 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,640 I mean, Lebron's psyche is completely different than 1901 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,080 Jordan's. Nobody had Jordan's psyche. 1902 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,760 It's a psychopath. I mean, God forbid he loses a 1903 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,840 Nassau on the golf course, he's he's going to be hunting you 1904 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,880 down to get a rematch. I mean, that guy's professional 1905 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:32,840 and will and competitive motor unparalleled. 1906 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,840 I'll, I'll give you another one. Nice. 1907 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,800 Somebody who I think, and I love the guy and I've interviewed him 1908 01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,280 and he's awesome. One of the. 1909 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,080 I think he's one of the best human beings around. 1910 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,600 I'm talking about Shaq. I love Shaq, although Shaq still 1911 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:49,800 owes me money from a bet that we made about the Cowboys. 1912 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,200 Long story, not a lot of money, not at all. 1913 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,400 I wish it was a lot, but I've got great love for Shaq. 1914 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,160 But the knock on Shaq contrast Shaq and Kobe. 1915 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,680 You know, Kobe would come in and was a killer and if you weren't 1916 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,680 ready to practice, if you were hungover or if you were £10 out 1917 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,400 of shape and if you couldn't run and if you didn't have your 1918 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,600 stuff together, you had a problem with Kobe and Kobe would 1919 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,360 voice it. And if it had to get physical, 1920 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:16,080 it would. Whereas with Shaq, you know, you 1921 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,560 could make the case that if Shaq had just a little bit more, like 1922 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,760 a little bit, not the full Mamba mentality or the MJ psyche, I 1923 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,440 think you might be able to make a case that Shaq may have gone 1924 01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:29,360 down as the greatest player in the history of all time. 1925 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,320 But really, I mean, I feel like Shaq left a couple of 1926 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,400 championships on the table. I feel like Shaq left a couple 1927 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,080 of personal awards on the table because he wasn't in the best of 1928 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,880 shape and because he wasn't necessarily motivated to be 1929 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,240 great. Now Shaq lived his best life and 1930 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,000 it's worked out well. And again, Shaq, you talk about 1931 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,560 trying to do good in the world. I mean, Shaq is out there buying 1932 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,000 moms and, you know, single moms computers for their kids. 1933 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,360 And, you know, really, I think he straddles is why I respect 1934 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,920 him tremendous. I think he straddles a great 1935 01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:02,320 line of being fair and being honest. 1936 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,480 Like he's talked about some of the, you know, inconsistencies 1937 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:10,000 and some of the issues that are wrong in the world, right. 1938 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,760 But he's also quick to defend law enforcement when it when it 1939 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,960 when it's applicable. Like he's not a guy that just 1940 01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,160 jumps in and, you know, weighs in on something that is very, 1941 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,520 you know, dangerous if you don't have your facts together. 1942 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,200 He generally does and he and he generally is on the side of 1943 01:32:26,440 --> 01:32:29,080 humanity and what's right. Like if you're, I, I know I'm 1944 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,800 getting a little preachy here, but it's important. 1945 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,320 That's how much I love Shaq. Like if you're a police officer 1946 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,680 and you do something wrong, you got to pay period. 1947 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,320 There's nothing else. There's no other conversation to 1948 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,840 have. But if you are doing your job 1949 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:44,080 and something happens, then you've got to understand that's 1950 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,320 within the context of of the job description. 1951 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,880 If you color outside the lines, you go to jail. 1952 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,400 I mean, that's, that's what I believe. 1953 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,360 And Shaq, whose dad was a military man and has great 1954 01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,440 affinity for law enforcement, but also some of the 1955 01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:01,160 inconsistencies in the world, whether it's education or 1956 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,480 certain things that that do plague minorities. 1957 01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:06,760 I think he's a great voice. I think he's just a real 1958 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,680 balanced, amazing voice. So I love the guy. 1959 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,080 I one of my favorite people in the world. 1960 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,560 I wish there were more Shaq's. The world would be better. 1961 01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,160 But I also think when it came to being a basketball player, he 1962 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:23,480 was half in, you know, like he wasn't motivated to be the even 1963 01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:26,040 though he says like, and I believe this part, like when he 1964 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,960 played Patrick and David Robinson and you know, those big 1965 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:33,320 guys from his era, Hakeem, he was on a mission to show he was 1966 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,400 better. But what about the other 70 1967 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:36,640 games? Was he always in? 1968 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,160 You know, what was he doing the night before? 1969 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,240 How late was he out? How hungover was he? 1970 01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:42,920 How out of shape was he even though he was a beast? 1971 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,320 I mean, you know, he didn't have Kobe's all in mentality. 1972 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,400 And if he did, I, I think you might you truly might have the 1973 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,600 greatest of all time. So the mentality is the 1974 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,000 mentality. And I don't even knock LeBron 1975 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,080 for not having a Kobe mentality or or Michael mentality. 1976 01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:02,880 I knock him for being I, I think a little bit too full of himself 1977 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,960 and taking himself a little bit too seriously and thinking he's 1978 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,640 above the game. Like Michael Jordan never once 1979 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,360 thought that. And if anybody had a license to 1980 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,360 think that, it was him, even Kobe. 1981 01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,520 Kobe never thought that. And it's a more modern example. 1982 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,880 That's why I say even Kobe. Where's LeBron? 1983 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:24,320 It's all about LeBron. And it has really always rubbed 1984 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,000 me the wrong way. And I'm going to tell you, you 1985 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,080 know, I don't know why. I mean, why are you going to 1986 01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,960 hide that Shaq was the most dominant senator of all time at 1987 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:36,840 Charlie F6675? Yeah, Well, I mean, I'd like to 1988 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,040 have seen Will. I mean, Will going against, you 1989 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,880 know, smaller guys in the NBAI don't. 1990 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,600 I don't know. That was different. 1991 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,880 It was a different league, so you can't really even compare 1992 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,040 it. But are you telling me, Charlie, 1993 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,360 and, And maybe you are, and if you are, I'd probably push back 1994 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,760 a little bit that Shaq was more physically dominant in his era 1995 01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,640 than Wilt was in his. I don't know if I could buy 1996 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,280 that. You know, I don't know that I, I 1997 01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,000 feel that I didn't, I didn't see will. 1998 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,320 I know all the records. I know his place in NBA lore. 1999 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,160 I don't know. I I most dominant center of all 2000 01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,880 time in terms of sheer brute force, I probably agree with 2001 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,520 you. And he was a great player. 2002 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,680 And Shaq is a top 12 to 15 greatest player of all time. 2003 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,120 But when you leave some stuff on the table, you got to take a hit 2004 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,600 on the back end. And you know, Bill Russell as a 2005 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:29,160 center was a better winner. Was he better all like a, I want 2006 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,520 to say a better teammate that's kind of getting into a lane? 2007 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,960 I can't really I don't I don't know if that's true, but better 2008 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,000 winner, that's provable, right? So check for Bill Russell 2009 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,080 physically dominant. The numbers would say that Wilt 2010 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,760 was. I think that's a check in Wilt's 2011 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:46,640 category, right? You know, best all around. 2012 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,160 I think it's Hakeem Olajuwon to me as the greatest all around 2013 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:53,920 center shooting defense, won a couple of championships. 2014 01:35:54,440 --> 01:35:56,040 So that's your opinion. I get that. 2015 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,560 I would push back a little bit. It's close, but you know, at 2016 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,800 nice putt get ready for that golf season. 2017 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,520 If Grant Hill didn't get hurt early, we'd be talking about a 2018 01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,120 different GOAT. No, we wouldn't be. 2019 01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,080 There's no way we'd be talking about Grant. 2020 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,120 Grant Hill is the greatest player of all time. 2021 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:17,840 Stop and Grant Hill was a beast. But I can't start doing the next 2022 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,640 10 minutes on players that if they didn't get hurt, they would 2023 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,480 be the GOAT. I'd say it was mainly about 2024 01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:24,520 LeBron, but because you put the question out there, I mean, I'll 2025 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,160 address it quickly. Grant Hill was Grant Hill was 2026 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:32,840 like a little bit of like a Tracy McGrady, like, you know, 2027 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,560 just an all the round. It just did a good handle. 2028 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,240 Can be a better defender than T Mac. 2029 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,800 You know, like Penny like that, that Unicorn that did it all. 2030 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,840 And obviously the foot injury when he was hobbling through the 2031 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,760 playoffs with Detroit. Then he bounced around. 2032 01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,200 Yeah. Grant Hill's place, his lore in 2033 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,040 the NBA and the like amongst the the NBA greats will be a little 2034 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,040 bit different than it is. But Grant, I mean, he wouldn't, 2035 01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,080 he's not going to be the GOAT. But Grant, I just saw Grant. 2036 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,840 I was, I was on the same plane as Grant 2 weekends ago coming 2037 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,360 back from St. John's game. 2038 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,520 His plane got snowed out and St. John's said, hey, come on our 2039 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,440 charter and then you know, get back to New York or where you 2040 01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:11,080 going to go? He was going to Boston to do a 2041 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,080 Celtics game. I love Grant, talk to him a 2042 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,800 little bit, gentlemen. I've had him on the show before. 2043 01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,920 Awesome player, one of the great college players of all time. 2044 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,920 Winner class act, but let's not get nuts here come on, let's not 2045 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,040 just start throwing stuff out there that if he doesn't get 2046 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,480 hurt he's the goat. That's that's a little bit much 2047 01:37:27,480 --> 01:37:29,960 for me all right, I think we got everything I had to get out 2048 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,240 today here. Let me just look at some of 2049 01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,400 these texts and see if there's anything else that I want to 2050 01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,480 want to address This is an interesting one. 2051 01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:40,000 This jumps out quick at pity right. 2052 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,600 Kobe's not a top five player only one MVP have to have more 2053 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,680 than three to qualify Well, I mean that's your opinion. 2054 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,480 There's no rule that says you must have three. 2055 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,800 First of all, the Steve Nash got 2. 2056 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,520 Who's better, Steve Nash or Kobe? 2057 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,840 And by the way, this one of the ones that Kobe did not get that 2058 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,680 Steve Nash did that will be another MVP for Kobe. 2059 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,240 Kobe also played a different era with some some dogs. 2060 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:02,960 You know, it's different era when he was coming up. 2061 01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:07,320 So that's part of it. You know, I'm going to do a 2062 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,800 special show and some other content that'll be a little bit 2063 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,000 more Evergreen this month where I'll record it rather than going 2064 01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,560 live. Like actually I've got a couple 2065 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:17,960 things here. We're let me just find the 2066 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:19,800 notebook where I've got some of those topics line. 2067 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:20,360 Is that it? Yeah. 2068 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:21,920 All right, so a couple of things. 2069 01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,360 And this will play into like, you know, top, top NBA players 2070 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,560 of all time. My old I'm going to do my old 2071 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,760 time Yankee lineup. I'm going to do my old time 2072 01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,040 Knicks starting five Mets lineup as well. 2073 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,040 My old time biggie starting five. 2074 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,480 I'm going to do the Mount Rushmore of New York athletes in 2075 01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:40,400 my lifetime. Top five WWE talkers, top 10 2076 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:45,520 sports posters, top 10 college football venues I've attended 2077 01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,520 top five sneakers. So I've got some stuff like 2078 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,360 that. So you know, invariably I'm 2079 01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,960 going to have to do an all time NBA list, which is always fun. 2080 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,160 I can tell you right now whether it's in a week and a month. 2081 01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:00,520 It doesn't matter what I do it M JS1 Lebron's two and to me, you 2082 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,360 know, Kobe, I do think and I I say this with incredible 2083 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:05,680 respect. There's no other way to say it. 2084 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,000 I, I love Kobe and I and I was genuinely sad. 2085 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,360 I mean, really sad when he was killed for his for somebody's 2086 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:15,000 daughter, for I, I loved Kobe, loved him, sad for his wife, sad 2087 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,160 for his, I mean said anytime somebody loses their life. 2088 01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,840 But Kobe really hit me. I was that was a rough 1. 2089 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,360 And that's how much I loved him. And Kobe to me is not my top 2090 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,360 five, but he's not there because he didn't win more MVPS. 2091 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,160 And that's why guys like the voting, right? 2092 01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:35,240 That's why this stuff matters and that's why I tend to make a 2093 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,800 big stink like when some dope doesn't vote for Bill Belichick 2094 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,280 or at least 11 dopes don't vote for Bill Belichick to be a first 2095 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:46,280 time first ballot NFL Hall of Famer as a head coach, you know, 2096 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,840 give me a break. Or some idiot doesn't vote for 2097 01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,200 Jeter or, you know, somebody gets snubbed for an All Star 2098 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,160 game. And I don't really care about 2099 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,120 the old certainly football. I mean Shidor Sanders is playing 2100 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,320 the pro the hell out of here. But like at least baseball and 2101 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:03,160 the NBA to a lesser extent, that does resonate still like and I 2102 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,200 do think. It's a bit of a scoreboard. 2103 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,480 So if somebody gets snubbed a few times, you know, being say a 2104 01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:13,400 four time All Star versus an 8 time All Star, perceptually that 2105 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:17,200 stuff matters. But no, Kobe Bryant is not in my 2106 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,680 top five. I I've got a really dig because 2107 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,560 when I do this, I pay homage to everybody. 2108 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,240 So it's just I'm not a prisoner of the moment. 2109 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,640 So you know, I'm going to look at Oscar Robertson, going to 2110 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,520 look at obviously Wilt and some of those names from back in the 2111 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,840 day, the early great players. Is Kobe top 10? 2112 01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,320 It's it's in the neighborhood. But if I'm starting A-Team and, 2113 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,200 and here's the irony, I don't know if Kobe's in my top ten. 2114 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,600 If he is, he's at the back end. But if I'm starting A-Team 2115 01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,800 tomorrow and I've got access to LeBron or Kobe, I'm taking Kobe 2116 01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,360 yet. So Lebron's obviously in my top 2117 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,400 ten. He's going to be in my top five, 2118 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,960 but it's a different evaluation. So either way, we'll do some of 2119 01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,520 that cool content, some Evergreen stuff here. 2120 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,800 Let's see what else did. A couple people saying it's a 2121 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,240 lack of humility with LeBron. I would agree. 2122 01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,600 That's really the first thing that that really rubbed me the 2123 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,320 wrong way. Talk about the Decision. 2124 01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,200 Yeah. And that's just because the the 2125 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,600 Knicks got burned and it was a whole dog and pony show the way 2126 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,520 he presented that I didn't like it. 2127 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,840 I'm always down for a little baseball question. 2128 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:22,720 Let me pop this in at the Rhino 30 BT why do the Yankees think 2129 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,360 Cole is going to be vintage Cole, the 35 coming off Tommy 2130 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:26,520 John? He's going to have to rediscover 2131 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,280 his control and he'll be on an 80 pitch count. 2132 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:30,960 Well, I I think that that's fair to start. 2133 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,680 Ryan, number one, you know, there's enough evidence that 2134 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:39,320 Tommy John surgery is incredibly effective Now when you're older, 2135 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:44,000 OK, a little different. I think that the Gerrit Cole 2136 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,720 that we see early and by the way, Aaron Boone, I know Aaron 2137 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,000 went to Tampa today because we texted him last night. 2138 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:52,760 Me and Sal wanted to take him to dinner. 2139 01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,960 You don't want to take him to a nice steak dinner, a little 2140 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,360 wine, a little celebration, me, Sam and Boonie for what he did 2141 01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:00,960 for us with the BT and Sal live show. 2142 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,840 And I didn't think he'd quite be going this quick. 2143 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,280 And and I know he because he went to a St. 2144 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,360 John's game two years ago. I got him some good tickets and 2145 01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:09,800 I wanted to see if he wanted to go again. 2146 01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,600 So he he's in Tampa now. He was leaving today, so I know 2147 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:17,120 he's very curious to get eyes on Garrett Cole pertaining to the 2148 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,400 question. But I think that what you see 2149 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:23,360 for the first month out of Garrett Cole, it doesn't really 2150 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,120 matter. You know, I think that's one of 2151 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:26,880 the reasons why I'm really excited about the prospects of 2152 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,880 this Yankee rotation because once he, you know, learns to 2153 01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,440 trust his body again and gets the whole complement of off 2154 01:42:32,440 --> 01:42:35,240 speed stuff and see it's fast, but I think the first thing 2155 01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:36,400 that's going to be there is to be low. 2156 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:38,120 You know, I'm not worried about that. 2157 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:42,120 He's going to be 959697 maybe on a hot day. 2158 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,760 He's going to get it back up to 98, which he'll occasionally 2159 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,560 touch. He's going to learn how to, you 2160 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,440 know, pitch again and again. Learning to trust your body at 2161 01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:53,840 that level is a very real thing. But I think that Garrett Cole's 2162 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,360 going to be terrific. I don't know if he's going to be 2163 01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,240 terrific right away. Matter of fact, I don't think 2164 01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,560 that he will be. But I think Garrett Cole's going 2165 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,200 to be top of the rotation. You know, Max Freed, Garrett 2166 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:09,440 Cole, Camp Schlittler, you know, Rodon, whether it's a heal, 2167 01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:10,800 whether it's a Warren, whatever it might be. 2168 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,080 Some of those young kids like I think the Mets were, the Yankees 2169 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,280 rotation is going to be absolutely great. 2170 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,800 It just not going to be good or great in April and May when 2171 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,720 everybody's getting healthy and everybody's getting right. 2172 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:22,240 And the worries about Garrett Cole. 2173 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,240 I really don't. But it's always good to end on a 2174 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,080 baseball conversation because baseball is coming. 2175 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:28,640 They just said booty's down in Tampa. 2176 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,360 I would imagine Mendy's maybe he went down yesterday. 2177 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,800 Maybe he's going down today as well. 2178 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,480 So now the stories start to trickle in and even if it's not 2179 01:43:35,480 --> 01:43:38,640 incredibly juicy, but you know, so and so you get this a lot 2180 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:42,320 about reporting, you know, best shape of his career or this 2181 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,200 young player, this where he explodes. 2182 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,800 We'll get those Dominguez stories and Spencer Jones and 2183 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,000 Benj for the Mets. Like we'll get all that. 2184 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,160 And a lot of it really doesn't always equate to real tangible 2185 01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,360 stuff. But it's is a little juice to 2186 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,000 kind of bridge the gap in February into March. 2187 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,120 Before you know it, baseball is here. 2188 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,960 And you know that I can't wait for baseball on BT Unleashed. 2189 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,080 And I know that you guys are pumped for baseball. 2190 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,640 So hey, I appreciate you guys. Make sure you like it. 2191 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,840 Make sure you subscribe to show to the show, spread the word out 2192 01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,400 there, crank it up in the office, let everybody know what 2193 01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,960 BT Unleashed is all about. And as I've told you, you know, 2194 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:21,680 many times, the likes and the subscriptions here and the 2195 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:26,520 comments and the traction, that is all one big digital imprint 2196 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:30,360 that really positions BT Unleashed more favorably within 2197 01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,040 the YouTube algorithm. And once that happens, you going 2198 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,400 to see, you know, the views, which are pretty good as they 2199 01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:39,520 are, go up and up and up. Then obviously with the 2200 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,400 monetization of the channel, I could do more and more and more. 2201 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,680 So, you know, don't just think that it's a little thumb that 2202 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:46,280 doesn't do anything like the comments. 2203 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,040 And I also respond to a lot. So it's a good way to interact 2204 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:50,760 with me. But the comments and all that 2205 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:55,160 other stuff really does matter in how YouTube views a show and 2206 01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,800 the prospects and the strength and the upward, you know, 2207 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,360 trajectory of a show. So that stuff matters. 2208 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,040 All right, I don't want to beg, but I mean that that stuff does 2209 01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,920 the more you do support you BT that's how you support me. 2210 01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,120 Support me by liking, subscribing, commenting, getting 2211 01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,720 the word out there and all that other good stuff. 2212 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:16,480 One other thing that I will get. I know that Fox said I can do 2213 01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:18,080 it. There's just some copyright 2214 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,080 things that I've got to be aware of. 2215 01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,480 I don't want to get in trouble with YouTube. 2216 01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:23,240 I want to do this the right way, but I will take a last night's 2217 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,520 hopefully. So hopefully some of you guys 2218 01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,520 saw that on Fox News last night with with Brian Kilmeade about 2219 01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,600 youth sports and the professor from Florida about, you know, 2220 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,640 just the cost of the general direction of youth sports, 2221 01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,560 Something I'm incredibly involved in, very passionate 2222 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,600 about, something I speak about very often. 2223 01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:40,800 It's something I hold very close to my heart. 2224 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,800 And it was great to get invited there. 2225 01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,920 I had a great time. I appreciate them having me on. 2226 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,800 And I know the producer, my guy Joe said that I will be able to 2227 01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,560 post the segment to my unleashed page. 2228 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,000 I just got to make sure that trademark copyrights were good 2229 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,240 there. And then once that, if you guys 2230 01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,040 missed it last night, it will be up I would say within the next 2231 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,160 day or so. So if you did watch last night, 2232 01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,200 thank you. If you did like did subscribe, 2233 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:05,640 thank you. Get the word out there. 2234 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,040 Have an awesome Monday. Hopefully Jets name their OC at 2235 01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,240 some point the next day or so as we get, you know, built up 2236 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,440 deeper in the week, more Super Bowl stuff, more Knicks stuff, 2237 01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:18,240 trade deadline Thursday, Yanks and Mets getting ready to go to 2238 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,640 spring training. So it is a good time of the 2239 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:21,600 year. St. 2240 01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,520 John's, UConn, Friday night, Biggie's Tournament, March 2241 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,520 Madness, NCAA stuff around the bend. 2242 01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,160 So it's about to start popping. Then it gets us into the 2243 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,240 Masters. So I think we're kind of through 2244 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,880 the early stages of what generally is a fairly benign 2245 01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:39,040 time in sports and you know, we're stronger on the other end. 2246 01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,280 So can't wait, man. Can't wait for all that good 2247 01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:42,960 stuff that I just referenced coming up. 2248 01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,400 Have a great Monday catch tomorrow at 10. 2249 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,560 J Rod catch you. Good job with this. 2250 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,440 He's going to post everything. So bounce around the page if 2251 01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:54,920 you're new, old segments, old shows, old topics, jump in now 2252 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,200 kind of, you know, if there's a different take that you missed 2253 01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,720 and you kind of knew, I promise you it's somewhere embedded on 2254 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,560 the BT Unleashed page. So have a great Monday catch, 2255 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,280 you guys. Tomorrow at 10. 2256 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:05,080 Be well, everybody.