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Good, not good, not good, not 
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What's going on, everybody? 
BT Unleashed with you here. 

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Not good. 
So I don't understand how the 

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Knicks can play 82 regular 
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2 here in the playoffs and still
not know how they want to play 

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in the fourth quarter and what 
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Last night was last night was 
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terms of big picture stuff. 
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still going to win the series? 
I do. 

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I think they've got more talent 
than the Hawks, even though the 

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Hawks are going to be scrappy 
and now you have to go to 

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Atlanta and you really don't 
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You just don't know. 
You really don't know which 

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profile this you know what what 
happens here. 

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The next twist of the turn I I 
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still pretty confident the 
Knicks going to win. 

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It's not about that. 
But last night to me was was 

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another, you know, reminder and 
another illumination as to the 

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things that I have been worried 
about all year with this Knicks 

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team. 
Just a brutal loss, a brutal 

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breakdown, whether it's not 
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it's the shot distribution, 
whether it's missing free 

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throws, whether it's choking 
away a 12 point fourth quarter 

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lead to start. 
Like I, you know, I don't, I 

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don't, I don't like it. 
Just not a championship team is 

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not supposed to look that way. 
So with that being said, I'm 

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sure this will be a very 
pleasant show. 

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Everybody, what's going on? 
BT Unleash, Come on in, let's 

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Let me give you a quick pop on 
what's going on tonight episode 

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#5 of The Jets Collective. 
We're going to do our mock 

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draft. 
I can't wait for this. 

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So myself and Rich and of course
Jake Aspen, Rick Simini and we 

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will mock draft one through 16. 
Mooji speaks today. 

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Well, obviously I don't know if 
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but I mean, this is this is tune
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There's so much going on. 
But we obviously begin and go a 

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little bit more thoroughly into 
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Now, first of all, here we'll 
get the calls lined up. 

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Lot of Nick energy will do a 
little baseball later on as 

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well. 
But as I said, mostly a Nick 

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day. 
Can somebody, I mean, listen, I 

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love, I loved it when the end, 
when NBC had the NBA back in the

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day, I loved it. 
Like the music used to get me so

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fired up. 
I remember like, you know, like 

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just like it was, it was an 
energy because the Knicks were 

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involved in all that stuff in 
the 90s that like you're really 

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just you had to live through it 
to really, you know, know what 

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I'm talking about. 
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and the Ewings and the Knick and
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Pacers and you know it's a great
it's a great it's a great time 

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capsule, right. 
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games, you have to get certain 
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I mean poor no eagle. 
I'm God, does he sound like his 

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dad or what? 
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how much he sounds like his 
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He's good, but poor no was like 
you don't have to think the 

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Knicks going to burn a time out.
They're going to take their last

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time out here. 
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bug wrong. 
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And the confusion that was going
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acceptable on the network level.
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And this is not like the minor 
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This is Round 1 Madison Square 
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to go in the game, miss free 
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And Noah Eagle, who is already a
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a superstar like his pops, 
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And it's not his fault how many 
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game. 
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bothers you #1 #2 now the, I 
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year, really. 
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valleys. 
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Knick discussions this year, 
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Let's see what they become when 
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in the NBA regular season when 
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couple of years, right, and 
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relevant as the Knicks have been
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It's really hard to manufacture 
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Then you want to scream and yell
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yelling and clicking away. 
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you know, real true. 
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little bit different than last 
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than the year before. 
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we're going to grade this Knicks
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out the head coach, we're going 
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get to this point in the season 
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because they've already gone 
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You fire Tom Thibodeau, you 
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won a championship, but it's 
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year. 
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can't help but push this thing 
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And I'm talking about early in 
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they won the cup and there was 
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And then there were these swoons
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and, you know, some confusion 
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Anthony Towns. 
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year, right? 
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what I'm saying. 
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I'm not worried about this 
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alarmed with the way it went 
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I'm talking big picture. 
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season games and still not know 
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It's unacceptable. 
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floundering away not knowing how
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How does Jaylen Brunson take? 
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some heat. 
How does Jaylen Brunson take 26 

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shots and Karl Anthony Towns 
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Now, the easiest punching bags 
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It's been probably cat one 
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And then obviously, Mike Brown 
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want to flip that order, 
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But those are the 2 main 
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second store player, you know. 
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creep in a little bit. 
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where there's just too much ball
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too much standing around, too 
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hero ball, too many fall away 
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you just you have to know how to
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12 point lead in a playoff game 
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And even though the Pistons lost
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game one over the weekend. 
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a pretty clear path. 
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play. 
Like the Knicks are still trying

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to figure this out. 
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Like, I want to know why. 
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You got to stop chucking. 
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And it's like when it works, 
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When it does not, you open 
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And the other thing too, like 
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understand. 
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wasn't for a long time, but I 
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stressed. 
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had it was a three or a 4 minute
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You had Alvarado Clarkson, 
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Robinson on the court together. 
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the NBA playoffs and I 
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that you still trying to figure 
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that were on the court, none of 
them like that that group, those

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five guys played a grand total 
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together this entire season 0. 
Like why are we experimenting in

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the playoffs here? 
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and Mitch Robinson and it wasn't
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I'm not saying it ruined the 
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these little things that really 
prevent you and have certainly 

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prevented me from having great 
confidence that the Knicks would

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win a championship this year. 
These are the little points of 

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inflection where I'm like, yeah,
I just. 

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I don't, you know, I don't, I 
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Think about again the points of 
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the things the head coach did OK
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I just pointed one out, whether 
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time out with two minutes and 43
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didn't like what he saw. 
Meanwhile, Jaylen Brunson has a 

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foot basically in the paint and 
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He's basically going to the rim.
No one's really, no, no one's 

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near him. 
And he calls the time out all 

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right. 
Then you then you burn the other

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time out with 10 seconds to go. 
So that, that's coaching stuff, 

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right? 
I talked about the, the, the 

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just, it's not, it's not 
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Like Karl Anthony Towns, as much
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since he came here, he is a hell
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And for him to take 12 shots, 
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final 12 minutes when he was 
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makes no sense. 
And that's on the head coach and

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that's on the star player. 
Like I've been saying for a 

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while, you know, it it all works
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Like the head coach has to 
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advantages and get the ball to 
cat Bronson's got to see that 

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get the ball to Cat Cat. 
The onus has to be on him to to 

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be demonstrative and demand the 
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So there's a lot of things at 
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this, but I don't I don't know 
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I think he's just trying to play
the good, you know, like good 

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cop, good soldier. 
He's like, you know, listen, 

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it's fine within the flow of the
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It, it, it just, he didn't have 
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And again, I, I appreciate him 
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That's the last thing you want 
to do is start, you know, coming

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apart at the seams here as a 
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But it just can't look that way.
Not at home, not when you're up 

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by 12 points going into the 
fourth quarter, not when you're 

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getting ready to take a 2O lead,
not when you've got a guy in cat

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who's playing so well in the 
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And then you look at the last 
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It's subtle. 
It's subtle, but if you look at 

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the hesitation now, Bridges had 
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Get to the rim, which we know he
doesn't like doing, or pull up 

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for a baseline jump shot that 
hits the front rim and misses at

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the buzzer. 
And we know what he opted for. 

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If you really watch that, and I 
watched it 10 times to make sure

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I'm not being unfair, there was 
no question a window where he 

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could have jumped through. 
And if he was more aggressive 

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and more assertive #1 gotten a 
better shot #2 gotten fouled or 

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#3 maybe get a layup. 
I mean, really, that ball moved 

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up the court quickly. 
I know there weren't 12 seconds.

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I get that. 
But it it, there was just a lot 

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wrong. 
Like, the aesthetics last night 

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were off. 
They were off. 

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And this is against the Atlanta 
Hawks, who had no chance to win 

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a championship this year. 
What happens when it's the 

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Celtics or the Pistons or the 
Thunder or Denver if you get to 

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the NBA Finals? 
Like this is the problem with 

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the Knicks. 
And this has been my fear about 

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the Knicks all season long, 
which is why I've told you and 

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many of you have resented this, 
but I got to keep it real. 

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I've I've never once looked at 
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they look, they look like a 
championship team. 

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I'm hopeful, I'm rooting. 
I know they're good, but that 

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next level's a big jump. 
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And last night was a very 
painful reminder that the Knicks

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have a lot of issues. 
They just really do, man. 

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I mean, J Rod was text. 
I was so annoyed I didn't even 

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text J Rod back. 
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after that just going what was 
that dude? 

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I mean, I just what I hated, and
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kind of went went in on this 
with like just the Bronson just 

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overshooting. 
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obviously at fault for it, but I
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as well. 
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where Bridges looked like he was
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Bronson, where it's like Jalen 
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Bridges and then Bridges right 
back, right back, right back. 

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Just you go here you go, you 
figure it out for us, you figure

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it out for us. 
And it's like that can't happen.

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Cat can't have a monster third 
quarter. 

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Like, and I don't understand, I 
tweet. 

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I only, I only dropped one tweet
last night. 

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It was in the first quarter. 
Nick's passing was sublime. 

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Like there was one sequence 
where Brunson threw a behind the

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back pass to cat head of the 
circle and then it kind of 

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whipped the round corner. 
Boom. 

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I'm like, my God, that was 
gorgeous. 

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That was that was so In Sync. 
That was perfect. 

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And then as you get in crunch 
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to figure things out. 
This is not, you know, November 

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20th, game seven or eight of the
season, 82 game, regular season 

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slate, playoff game #2 Cat was 
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Brunson. 
Bridges was here, OG was here, 

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Hart was here. 
Like, this is not a new team 

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that you threw together, you 
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John's and all these other teams
in the NIL in the, in the portal

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era and the NIL. 
By the way, did you see what St.

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John's did to your boy at 
Syracuse? 

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Donnie Freeman. 
Freeman notched them. 

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You see that? 
Yeah, but. 

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Honestly now, at this point, now
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works out. 
Kind of works out either way. 

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Yeah, yeah, that was a big one. 
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and then they got another. 
They got some 7 foot European. 

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I don't even I mean I, I, I, I 
don't know how I'm going to say 

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all these names. 
There's like suddenly 5 new guys

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in well, I think it's 4, but 
these names are going to be 

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brutal. 
I mean Mink and I may, we may as

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well be in Italy in the Euro 
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And so I it's not even, it's 
apparently an American roster. 

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But no, they, they crushed it 
yesterday with Freeman. 

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They did some other stuff. 
But I don't know, man. 

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I, I just, I look at that ball 
movement and then I see the 

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complete antithesis when it's 
time to get it going. 

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I don't understand that. 
I it bothers me. 

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It's a problem. 
And see if you think about this,

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right? 
So way before J Rod's time, 

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right? 
Yeah, We get the calls up here, 

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get those Knicks calls going, 
bro. 

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What went when when, when 
Michael Jordan burst on the 

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scene, right? 
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before Scotty came there and 
there was like, he played with 

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basically a bunch of steps, all 
right? 

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And they played the Celtics, 
Byrd, Mikhail, Dennis Johnson, 

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you know, Robert Parish, Danny 
Ainge, all those all those 

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champion Celtics, one of the 
best teams of all time, right? 

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Casey Jones, the head coach and 
Michael Jordan scored 60 plus 

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points in a playoff game. 
And all he did was shoot and he 

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basically didn't miss. 
But like the reason he did that,

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it was literally he was the best
player in the world even at that

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point, but there was there was 
nobody to pass to. 

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Like I could understand if there
was such a discrepancy from the 

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Knicks best player to their 
second best player. 

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And I love Jalen Brunson and we 
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But I don't understand why he 
has not yet figured this out. 

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It's just two ball dominant. 
You're not going to win this 

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way. 
Allen Iverson didn't win a 

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championship trying to do this. 
And this is not, you know, 

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trying to do some hit piece on 
Jaylen Brunson. 

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He is a great nick. 
And really, if this keeps up, 

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Jaylen Brunson is going to have 
his number retired at some 

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point. 
I mean, not not that I'm here to

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debate that right now, but like 
Jaylen Brunson's going to go 

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down as one of the old time New 
York Knicks. 

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You know, really. 
Now, obviously if you ever 

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punctuate that with the 
championship, now you're on the 

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same line with a Clyde Frazier 
and a Willis Reed and an Earl 

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Monroe that second the 
championship because Pearl 

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wasn't there for the first one. 
Patrick never won. 

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But you know, by most accounts 
the greatest player in the 

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history of the franchise just 
based on the stats and the 

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constant, you know, winning at a
high level without the 

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championship and elevating a 
product that probably didn't 

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really have much business going 
as far as they went most times. 

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And Oh, yeah, by the way, you 
know, running into Michael time 

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after time after time. 
But like, Jana Brunson's on that

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path, but he's got to augment 
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He just gets into hero mode. 
And it's a disservice to the 

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team if there were a bunch of 
steps around him. 

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Hey, you got to get 30 shots. 
You got to go hunt and shot. 

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Go do what you got to do. 
But you're not, you're not, 

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you're just not that guy. 
You're not. 

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You're cut below it. 
And the second-half of the 

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season, we've seen Jalen Brunson
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We've noticed that because we've
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cat. 
This is all stuff that we've 

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talked about on the show. 
But it's like when when it's 

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time for you know what, what 
it's time for the, for the game 

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to be truly defined. 
It's like his default, his reset

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button is to go back to to what 
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And it's just, it's not going to
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It might work against the Hawks.
It might. 

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Then again, it might not. 
It might work against the Hawks,

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but it's not going to work the 
way we wanted to work for the 

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Knicks. 
And that's a championship. 

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So, you know, I mean, you, 
you've got to be very turned off

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by the performance last night 
because there were so many 

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different breakdowns at the 
highest level. 

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There were coaching 
malfunctions. 

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They were star player 
malfunctions. 

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There were missed free throws. 
There were missed defensive 

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assignments. 
And really, I mean it. 

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It would have been worse if 
McCollum didn't bail, who was 

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great, didn't bail them out with
those two missed free throws. 

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And here's something else, Jake,
Get me up on the full screen, 

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please, here and we'll get to 
the calls in a minute. 

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Here's something else I can't 
stand. 

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I can't take it anymore. 
I don't even actively look for 

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it. 
It finds me. 

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You just jump on social media 
for a second after the game and 

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you got all these lunatics 
outside the garden. 

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I don't even they're not even 
Knick fans. 

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They are young, desperate, you 
know, social media, whatever. 

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Like posing as Knick fans. 
I mean after the game, one win, 

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like what they're chanting. 
It's it's just asinine. 

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It's such a poor reflexive. 
I can't take it. 

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Like we've seen this. 
We saw this a couple of years 

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ago when the Knicks beat the 
Celtics in the regular season 

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and then it was like a trend. 
And then obviously anything with

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the Knick, you know, Knicks for 
clicks. 

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You guys have heard that, You 
know, the Knicks have a great 

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fan base and incredibly 
intelligent fan base, right? 

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A deep fan base that you know, 
has a national imprint, not like

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the Lakers or or even the 
Celtics, but absolutely Knick 

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fans. 
Like you go to a Knick game, a 

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road game, whether it's in 
Atlanta, they always take over 

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Atlanta, down in Philly, you 
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against the Lakers, Knick fans 
are everywhere. 

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So the Knick fans are 
phenomenal, but the people like 

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the knuckleheads outside of the 
Garden after a win, after a 

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loss, I it's just, it's it's 
pathetic. 

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It just drives me insane. 
Like, I don't, those are not 

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Nick fans. 
Like I just have to get that off

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my chest. 
I don't know what that is. 

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I don't know who they are. 
I don't know what that is 

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supposed to do. 
And and it's it's just 

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ridiculously over the top and 
it's just it it drives me nuts. 

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It it really does. 
It does. 

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So with that being said, all 
right, Jay, we ready to roll 

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here with some calls, get things
pumped. 

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Up Yes, Sir. 
We've got Andrew from the Upper 

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East Side calling in about some 
Nicks. 

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OK, thank you, brother. 
Andrew's up first on the Upper 

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East Side, as Jay Rod said. 
BT at least Andrew, what's going

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on? 
BT I'm back how we doing? 

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Good, good. 
I'm frustrated after last night.

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Bad one, yeah. 
That was a rough one. 

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Yep, I'm concerned with the lack
of size for the guards, for the 

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Knicks. 
Yep. 

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Not against Atlanta, but just 
generally speaking, you know, 

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Brunson is small, McBride is 
small, Clarkson is not. 

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Clarkson's bigger, but he, let's
face it, he's not 66. 

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So I have concerns there because
Atlanta's going to expose 

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Brunson defensively and they did
it all last night. 

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And I read a stat. 
I don't know if you saw this, 

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but McCollum when guarded by 
Brunson in this series is 9 for 

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12 and has 22 points. 
I didn't see that stat. 

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Doesn't surprise me, but I did 
not see that stat. 

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He is a killer and he's always 
been great. 

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He's and he's such a classy 
player too. 

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He's like, I'm not here to be 
the villain. 

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I'm, you know, I got a wife and 
two kids. 

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I'm a good guy. 
I'm here to play basketball. 

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You know, that's the other thing
too. 

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Like it's got to always be like,
there's so much. 

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I'll let you finish up, Andrew, 
but there's always so much other

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stupid noise with the Knicks, 
like the villain, the the 

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lunatics outside with the clicks
and the social. 

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Can't we just have a playoff 
game and just focus on the game?

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There's so many other ancillary 
things that drive me insane, 

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Andrew, Really. 
No, I don't. 

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I don't disagree. 
I think the the fans watching a 

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game and outside the garden is 
ridiculous. 

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I think everyone should be at 
home watching a game. 

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You know, I I completely agree. 
There's a lot of noise. 

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Is is a good word Like Yeah. 
That's it. 

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That fits. 
I'm with you. 

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Right. 
I didn't expect this to be a 

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sweep, obviously, because you 
know, you have to respect the 

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opponent, but I think you have 
to be more concerned now. 

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You know, I think you thought 
you'd be up two O. 

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It's 11 and a series always 
starts when the road team wins. 

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Yep, Yep, for sure. 
But my. 

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My concern is just the lack of 
size in the backcourt against 

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the guy like McCollum, who's 
just bigger, and I don't know 

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how the Knicks handle this. 
I guess you're putting bridges 

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around Anobi now on McCollum, 
and then you're putting the 

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other one on Johnson. 
Who's 6? 

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Who's 67, by the way? 
And where do you go from there? 

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And the fact that Towns didn't 
show up in the, you know, at the

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end, he didn't have a field goal
attempt in the last four minutes

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of the game. 
Yeah, but do you blame him when 

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you say Towns didn't show up? 
Yeah, I don't put that on towns.

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I really don't. 
Well, I think he needs to get 

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more involved, right? 
Whether that's Brunson getting 

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him involved or Mike Brown 
drawing up a play for him. 

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The coach's job there, Andrew. 
No, I'm not disagreeing, but I'd

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I'd like to see Towns go up 
there on his own, set a screen 

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for Brunson and say hey give me 
the damn ball 4 minutes to go 

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instead of having Mike Brown on 
the sideline with a minute to go

441
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,080
yelling at him to. 
Go set the pick right. 

442
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,600
That's my concern is like he 
checks out too much. 

443
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,240
Yeah, yeah, I, I brought that. 
It's a good call, Andrew. 

444
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,960
Thank you very much, buddy. 
Good stuff there. 

445
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,680
Thanks for checking in. 
Appreciate that. 

446
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,280
Yeah, I mean, listen, the final 
two minutes and 56 seconds of 

447
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,840
the game, one person took a shot
and that's Jaylen Brunson. 

448
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720
And that's just unacceptable. 
Like nowhere else is that going 

449
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,640
to happen. 
Are you telling me that with two

450
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,640
minutes and 56 seconds to go 
that either Tatum or Jaylen 

451
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,000
Brown are going to take 
literally every single shot? 

452
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,640
Even SGA or Jokic is not going 
to take every single shot. 

453
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Even, you know, even a Kobe or 
Shaq is not taking every single 

454
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,400
shot. 
It's just the ball is always in 

455
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,720
his hands and it just, it sticks
too much. 

456
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,480
It really does. 
And you know, I'm very curious. 

457
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,520
You know, this will be, we'll 
unpack this whenever the 

458
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,360
season's over. 
And I think the Knicks will be 

459
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,640
playing for a while because I do
think the Knicks will win the 

460
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,880
series. 
But like, that's the bigger 

461
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,840
macro issue downstream that I'm 
not even going to get into now. 

462
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,160
But I mean, at some point 
there's going to be a real 

463
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,800
conference. 
I'm I'm like, I'm at least 

464
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,280
sticking my toe in the water 
now. 

465
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,680
There's going to be a real 
conversation to be had because 

466
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,680
it's already kind of been 
broached to an extent. 

467
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,960
Can you win a championship when 
Jaylen Brunson is your best 

468
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,360
player? 
And I understand that the merits

469
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,600
of both side like I, I believe 
as long as you have enough of 

470
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,520
the other pieces. 
I personally, I've, I always 

471
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,800
believed that you could, you 
know, going back when he first 

472
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,720
got here. 
And but the more I watch and the

473
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,200
more I see how the league is 
reacting to him and some of 

474
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,680
these tendencies that aren't 
getting cleaned up late in 

475
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,800
games, bowl dominance, the 
monopolization of the 

476
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,680
basketball. 
I'm I'm less I'm less entrenched

477
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,600
in that belief like that that 
like there was a point where I 

478
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,480
had no doubt in my mind that the
Knicks, if they surrounded him 

479
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,120
with the right players, unlike 
what they did for Patrick Ewing,

480
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,720
where I'm like, there is no 
doubt that this guy can lead the

481
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,480
Knicks to their first 
championship since 1973. 

482
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,440
And I love Jaylen, we all love 
Jaylen Brunson, but these are 

483
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,440
two separate thoughts. 
Is he a hell of a nick? 

484
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,400
Yes. 
Is he a terrific player? 

485
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480
Yes. 
Does he play with great purpose 

486
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,440
and pride and passion? 
Yes. 

487
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,840
I mean, is he going to have his 
jersey retired someday? 

488
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,080
Yes. 
Can you win a championship if he

489
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,600
doesn't augment his game or can 
you win a championship given his

490
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:06,320
physical inherent limitations, 
explosion and size? 

491
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:11,160
And that's where more and more 
and more I'm starting to 

492
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280
unfortunately gravitate toward 
the no side of the equation. 

493
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,960
What do we have Next up there, 
Jay? 

494
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,800
What do? 
You got we've got Omar from Omar

495
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520
from the Bronx. 
OK, let's head up to the Bronx. 

496
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,880
Omar is is in the house. 
Big O what's? 

497
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,440
Happening. 
Let me hold on real quick. 

498
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,720
All right, there we go. 
We're good. 

499
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,640
OK, what up? 
Hey, what's up, guys? 

500
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Can you hear me? 
Yep, got your brother. 

501
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,760
What's going on? 
Yeah. 

502
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,840
So just a couple of thoughts in 
regards to yesterday's game. 

503
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,400
I think first and foremost, I 
think this is becoming the DNA 

504
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,200
of this team. 
Unfortunately for the Knicks, 

505
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,000
over the past couple postseason 
runs, the fourth quarter has 

506
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240
become this time where they'll 
just have these moments where 

507
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,160
they have a team on the ropes 
and they just breathe life 

508
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,640
incident. 
And it's been a consistent 

509
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,080
trend, whether it be in that 
Sixer Series A few years ago, I 

510
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080
think it was Game 5 or maxi hit 
like the half court shot. 

511
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,080
We had them down and out and we 
just breathe life incident. 

512
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,160
It happened last year, obviously
with the Pacers game one, which 

513
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,560
changed the entire trajectory of
that series. 

514
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,840
We all kind of do. 
It was over after that, even if 

515
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,320
we don't want to admit it. 
And it's happening again now, 

516
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,040
but I don't think it's going to 
impact this series because we're

517
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,880
just going to out talent the 
Hawks. 

518
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,520
You think we'll end up winning 
the next couple games, kind of 

519
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,160
wrap it up in 5. 
But it's a cause for concern, 

520
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,520
for serious concern when we play
a team like the Celtics, when we

521
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
play a team like Detroit or 
whoever the case may be again, 

522
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,080
this series, not so much because
we have more talent, we have 

523
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,440
closers. 
We're going to out talent the 

524
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,800
Hawks. 
This has become, as much as we 

525
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,440
don't want to admit it, the DNA 
of the Jalen Brunson kind of era

526
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,200
or the Jalen Brunson core in the
playoffs where we just have a 

527
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,360
team down and out and we can't 
put them away. 

528
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,840
I ask you a question. 
Why do you think that is? 

529
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,960
What what's your reasoning? 
I've got my theory, but I want 

530
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,280
to hear yours. 
Why does that happen? 

531
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Because that is a consistent 
theme, you know? 

532
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Well, there's 2 themes. 
Knicks have started slow off in 

533
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,800
the in the first quarter getting
cleaned up. 

534
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,600
Hold on, wait, let's let me ask 
you a question. 

535
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,080
Why do you think can we we we 
still have Omar there? 

536
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,360
He muted. 
It is. 

537
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,800
It consistent, Yeah, we'll take 
care of that. 

538
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,200
Just let me know what's going. 
On all right, will do. 

539
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,200
If you have to drop them, what 
or is he? 

540
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Are you here? 
Oh, all right. 

541
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,320
We'll drop them. 
We'll get the next call up. 

542
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:25,960
It's all good. 
Appreciate. 

543
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,040
I don't know what happened 
there, Omar. 

544
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,360
Sorry about that. 
The the problem why this happens

545
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,120
with the New York Knicks as 
regularly as it does is because 

546
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,920
they've got 40% of their 
defenders in the starting court,

547
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320
in the starting lineup are 
horrendous. 

548
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,480
I mean, so when you get a big 
lead and your first line of 

549
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,200
defense, Omar, that I'm 
answering Omar's question is 

550
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,360
that you know, you, you've got 
basically a fire hydrant in 

551
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:56,400
Jalen Brunson, who is short and 
doesn't have great lateral burst

552
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,160
and guys could shoot over them. 
Easy to pick because he's not 

553
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,760
physic physically strong enough 
to to really go through picks 

554
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,960
and fight through them. 
He plays hard. 

555
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,400
He's got a great IQ, he's a 
great offensive score and he's a

556
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560
great player on on a lot of 
levels here. 

557
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:16,120
But the his weaknesses are so 
exploitable and I don't know how

558
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,280
you work around that. 
It's, it's almost like, I don't 

559
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,400
know, maybe this is unfair and 
maybe this isn't a great 

560
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,160
analogy. 
It's almost like having a, a, a 

561
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,200
bad bullpen in baseball, right? 
Like you could have so many 

562
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,640
things that that you could do. 
You know, you have a good 

563
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680
lineup, you have good starting 
pitching, but then you get 

564
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,480
toward the end of the game where
it's time to get those final 

565
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800
three higher leverage outs. 
And, you know, unless you got a 

566
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,600
MO or somebody like that, you 
know, it's, it's going to be a 

567
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,400
little bit dicey. 
And, you know, I, I think that 

568
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080
again, I'm not saying it's a 
perfect comparison. 

569
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,640
I don't know how transferable it
is. 

570
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,080
But when you look at and it's 
not just Jalen Brunson, don't 

571
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,440
get me wrong, but he's the first
line of defense. 

572
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,320
He is the lead guard, you know, 
and when you could get by him 

573
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,800
and you could get through him 
and now you get to that next 

574
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000
level of defense. 
Now you got Cat who's a little 

575
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,520
slow to rotate, blah, blah, 
blah. 

576
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
It's been a theme for the 
Knicks, you know, since the Cat 

577
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,160
and Brunson were paired up, you 
know, and we knew this about 

578
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,200
Jalen Brunson early, but we were
so enamored and rightfully so 

579
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400
with with his great offensive 
prowess that that we kind of 

580
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,280
ignored it because he's so 
clutch and he's a killer and 

581
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,440
he's 25 the game and he's low 
maintenance and he's a great 

582
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400
teammate. 
He's a great guy and he's a 

583
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,440
great ambassador for the Knicks.
But his deficiencies will 

584
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,840
continue to show up. 
Now, that is the unfortunate 

585
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,720
reality of the Knicks. 
You know, it really is at 

586
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,320
Kendock. 
Kendock, what's going on the 

587
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,800
bench line. 
It was absolute garbage. 

588
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Yeah, Deuce and Shaman have been
horrendously mediocre. 

589
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,880
I still have faith in both of 
those guys. 

590
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,120
So let's let's put it this way. 
If now Clarkson's not a good 

591
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,400
defender, but he could fill it 
up. 

592
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Some of the other guys that they
use Alvarado, I still love him 

593
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,600
as a spark plug. 
Mitch was phenomenal, especially

594
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,800
in the first half of the game. 
But if the Knicks don't get much

595
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,440
more consistent play from 
certainly from Deuce and even 

596
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Chabot, who I've always been a 
fan of it, it's going to really 

597
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
complicate their their road to a
championship. 

598
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,000
It just is, you know, you every 
every great team, you got to 

599
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640
have, you know, three guys 
coming off the bench minimally 

600
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
that are, you know, diverse. 
You got to have a shooter, you 

601
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,480
got to have a couple defenders. 
You have to have a couple of 

602
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
high IQ guys. 
You want to have a motor guy 

603
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160
like Alvarado and Deuce is a 
motor guy as well that can just 

604
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280
inject a little pace into the 
game when things aren't really 

605
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,680
going the way you want them to 
go. 

606
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480
Like, I think that they've got 
enough of the components on the 

607
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,560
bench, provided the guys that 
are starting do their job. 

608
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,920
And think about this, the final 
two minutes and 50 seconds, 

609
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200
there was one person who took a 
shot. 

610
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,160
That's a lot of possessions. 
That's just unacceptable. 

611
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,960
And the Bucks got to stop. 
It's not just, well, Mike Brown 

612
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,440
didn't call the play for Cat or,
oh, Cat wasn't, you know, 

613
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,560
demanding the ball enough. 
No, you've got to look at Jaylen

614
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920
Brunson as well. 
Otherwise, you're missing the 

615
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,080
mark. 
Like, to me, the to me, the most

616
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,760
culpable player last night was 
Jaylen Brunson. 

617
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,200
They just was MO Cage. 
What up, MO? 

618
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,680
All right. 
The Knicks are good when they 

619
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,000
play bad teams and they lose 
when they play good teams. 

620
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480
Maybe we can get a championship 
game against bad teams only. 

621
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,240
I mean, isn't that kind of the 
theme this year? 

622
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,720
You don't think about this like 
when. 

623
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Yeah, I mean, that is that's 
accurate. 

624
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,520
If you watch the Knicks all 
regular season and don't just 

625
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,360
parachute into the NBA playoffs,
you've understood that this has 

626
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,160
been a problem with the Knicks 
all year. 

627
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,800
You know, the bad teams, they 
whack the good teams, they 

628
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000
generally don't perform great. 
And then for some reason they 

629
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,600
play well against Denver, you 
know, But generally speaking, 

630
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,920
that has been a problem for the 
Knicks this year for sure, you 

631
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,240
know, even last year. 
But they were able to to rectify

632
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,520
that in the playoffs with some 
of the matchups. 

633
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,480
So, I mean, the Pistons squashed
him this year. 

634
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680
And The funny thing is I don't 
even want to put the cart before

635
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,680
the horse. 
But you think about, you know, 

636
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,520
potential second round matchups,
right? 

637
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,040
And as I watch things begin to 
unfold in the Eastern 

638
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Conference, like, I mean, I you 
know, I I don't love like 

639
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600
everybody's worried about the 
Pistons and the Celtics. 

640
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,280
I don't know if I from it. 
I'm talking about any team now, 

641
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,000
not just the Knicks. 
The Magic are a very dangerous 

642
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,400
team. 
They've had a lot of injuries. 

643
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,240
They got a lot of young talent 
That's not afraid, like the 

644
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Orlando Magic or not. 
That's going to be a long series

645
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,680
out there. 
That'd be a tough one. 

646
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Let me see here at Bob Tiss 
disgusting game saw it coming. 

647
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,080
I didn't see that guy. 
I'll be lying to you. 

648
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,960
I didn't necessarily see that 
coming in the manner in which it

649
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,800
came at the time in which it 
came. 

650
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400
You know, like if you would have
told me the Knicks would have 

651
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,040
lost, you know, 11394 like they 
just didn't have it all right. 

652
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,560
The Hulk shot 46% from three 
Knicks were off whatever. 

653
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,080
I would almost find that more 
acceptable and and 

654
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,680
understandable than the way they
lost last night. 

655
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,800
You're at home, you're up 12. 
What the Hell's going on? 

656
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,280
So it covered. 
How can Brunson just dribble 

657
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,800
down the clock to 8 seconds and 
take a low percentage shot and 

658
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080
miss? 
I mean, let's face it, even with

659
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,880
the bounce that they got on the 
Brunson 3 before the foul shots,

660
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,440
you got a little lucky with 
that. 

661
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,080
I mean, there's just a lot wrong
aesthetically with last night. 

662
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,280
And you know, it's guys the I 
have talked about this, right, 

663
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,600
and I have used this for there 
are a lot of different 

664
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,480
situations. 
I know I sometimes get 

665
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,240
repetitive with this, but boy, 
it fits. 

666
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,720
And I'm going to say it again. 
I didn't say it last week, so I 

667
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,160
don't think I'm overdoing it 
right now. 

668
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,240
You know, I think I said it the 
week before, J Rod, if I did say

669
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560
it last week, correct me, but 
I'm sure I didn't. 

670
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,320
All right, we all play golf, 
right? 

671
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Or many of us do, and there we 
all have a club in our bag that 

672
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800
we just try to avoid. 
It's like we justify, even 

673
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,560
though it calls for the shot. 
We almost justify going for a 

674
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,040
different club, right? 
And an example, for whatever 

675
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,360
reason, I tend to hit a hybrid a
little bit better than an iron. 

676
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000
Not not well, mind you, but a 
little bit better than a than an

677
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,280
iron, like a mid iron, right. 
So I can't say how many times 

678
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,040
like I'm 170 yards out, which is
I don't need a hybrid for 170 if

679
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
I hit it. 
Well, that's for sure. 

680
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,320
But I'm like, yeah, I don't know
this 6 I or whatever it might 

681
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,719
be. 
I don't know if I feel good 

682
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,040
about this. 
Let me just swing really easy or

683
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840
choke down on the hybrid, right.
And then what do you do? 

684
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,280
You pipe a hybrid and you fly a 
25 yards over the green out of 

685
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,199
bounds. 
You get a nine. 

686
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,080
My point is there, eventually, 
if you're going to accomplish 

687
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,960
something, you've got to be able
to stare down what you try to 

688
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,080
avoid. 
And you could take what I just 

689
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,320
said and apply that to any 
aspect of life really, whether 

690
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,560
it's a fear of public speaking. 
You could be, you know, you 

691
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,199
could be ascending at a company 
and you are thought to be 

692
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,400
brilliant and just so many 
incredible characteristics. 

693
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,960
But you know deep down that you 
are just really, really like 

694
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,160
lamenting the one time that you 
get called up to present 

695
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,480
whatever you might have to 
present. 

696
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920
But to get to where you want to 
go, you know you have to do it. 

697
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
And when you get called to do 
it, you either hammered out of 

698
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
the yard or you you trip all 
over yourself, which will 

699
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,560
positively or adversely impact 
you. 

700
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Like you got to figure things 
out. 

701
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Whatever your weakness is, 
you've got to work around it. 

702
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,720
You can't ignore it forever. 
Eventually it's going to come to

703
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,920
roost. 
And to me, you know, the, the, 

704
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,000
the, the, the problems with the 
Knicks. 

705
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,680
And there's so many good things 
about the Knicks, but the things

706
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,520
that have bored me about this 
team all year, even going back 

707
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,680
to last year, but certainly this
year, because I won't know, 

708
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,440
we'll say every year is a little
different, new bench, whatever 

709
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,720
new coach. 
But the things that worry me 

710
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,640
about this team, whether it's 
the regular season against the 

711
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160
good teams or the first round 
against the Hawks or the next 

712
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,960
round, I just have always 
thought that it's going to get 

713
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,640
in the way of a championship 
run. 

714
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,280
Unfortunately, I I've always 
thought that. 

715
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Jay, are we OK with the phones? 
It seems like something's up. 

716
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440
What's happening? 
You tell me. 

717
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,640
Have anyone in the queue right 
now? 

718
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,240
OK, but but as I'm saying, is 
that rectified because we had an

719
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,040
issue with it? 
Oh yeah, no, we're that was, I 

720
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,640
mean, listen not to throw my 
guy. 

721
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,320
Omar under the bus? 
No, no. 

722
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,760
No, that was definitely a mic 
issue on his end. 

723
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,440
Got it, got it. 
Hey, by the way, probably not a 

724
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,560
bad time. 
Why don't you let it? 

725
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,160
Let it. 
I know it's in the chat, but 

726
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000
we've got some new, some new 
watchers, some new fans. 

727
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,240
Let everybody know how they can 
call the show. 

728
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,920
Just do that for you. 
So yeah, let me I'll throw it in

729
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,760
the chat real quick so you can 
see it again. 

730
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,720
We've we got a link to a stream 
yard site. 

731
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:44,560
So it's the site we do the 
streaming out of. 

732
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,320
You'll talk to me in that, in 
that backroom, I'll send you a 

733
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,640
link to this one and then that's
how we do it. 

734
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,600
So 2 links, 2 clicks and you're 
right here ready to call in. 

735
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520
OK, it's pretty easy. 
So if you guys want to jump in, 

736
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,640
you've been begging for the 
calls. 

737
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,880
We got the calls. 
Let's go. 

738
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,840
I'm a Magic fan here. 
That win the other night. 

739
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Been waiting all year for this. 
Yeah. 

740
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,720
I mean, listen, that is a team 
that that I, I would not really 

741
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,040
want to see. 
And that's going to be a team 

742
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,640
that's going to be around in 
terms of the Eastern Conference 

743
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,920
picture for a long, long time. 
There's no doubt about that. 

744
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,720
The Knicks handed it, landed the
game on a platter. 

745
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:18,800
Silver platter. 
They did. 

746
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,440
You're right, Michael. 
There's no question about that. 

747
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,320
And. 
You just like You can't. 

748
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,360
You can't. 
Do that in the first round. 

749
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Not that you can't recover from 
it and still win the series, but

750
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,080
like, it just reinforces all the
things that I think meant. 

751
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560
I don't think I'm alone, you 
know, I don't. 

752
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,920
I think that there are several 
different versions of Knick 

753
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,480
fans, but I think for the most 
part, the overwhelming majority 

754
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,680
of Knick fans are rooted in 
reality. 

755
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,240
We're enthusiastic, we're 
certainly hopeful, but we're 

756
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:54,120
also fearful of those things 
that kind of rear, you know, 

757
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,240
it's ugly head at the most 
inopportune time. 

758
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,840
Whether it's, you know, defense,
whatever it might be, whether 

759
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,160
it's Brunson, whether it's Cat, 
that dynamic, whether it's 

760
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,120
coaching, you know, whether it's
Bridges becoming small at the at

761
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,440
the worst time, whether it's 
whatever it might be. 

762
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,720
You guys, nobody knows the 
weaknesses of their team better 

763
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:14,880
than fans of the team. 
And I will say that like when 

764
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960
you watch a team, this does 
happen once in a while. 

765
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,760
When you watch a team all the 
time. 

766
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,600
And this happens to the Yankees 
a lot, right? 

767
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520
The Yankees, maybe they start to
pick things up a little bit 

768
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160
sweeping the Royals, getting 
ready for the series against the

769
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,200
Red Sox, by the way, very early.
Last time the Yankees and the 

770
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,440
Red Sox played this early was 
was either 2018 or 2019. 

771
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,320
And just doesn't decide. 
Like, I don't I don't really 

772
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,120
care when the Yanks and the Red 
Sox play. 

773
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Sure, you want to tell me like 
back in the day, it's better, 

774
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,840
you know, save it for Memorial 
Day or, you know, start getting 

775
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,720
deeper in the season, a little 
more juice there. 

776
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,240
All right, I can get behind 
that. 

777
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,640
But like the Yankees Red Sox 
rivalry, I don't know, like, if 

778
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,840
you're my son's 11 years old, 
like the Red Sox mean nothing to

779
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,200
him right now. 
They really don't largely kind 

780
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,720
of what I felt growing up as as 
a Yankee fan because I had just 

781
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:08,720
missed the the Pinella, you 
know, or that like the Nettles, 

782
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,480
Bill Lee fight at home plate 
when Lee separated his shoulder,

783
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,640
you know, Carlton Fiske swinging
at the plate when I get crazy 

784
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
stuff. 
So when I started watching the 

785
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Yankees, it was more like, you 
know, Toronto in the 80s. 

786
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,480
They were always in the Yankees 
way kind of teams like that. 

787
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,120
The Tigers were really good at 
84. 

788
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Obviously they've started out 35
and five, you know, and they won

789
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,520
the World Series. 
That team with Jack Morris Allen

790
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,280
travel. 
I, I didn't look at the Red Sox 

791
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,840
the way that, you know, I 
certainly view them through the 

792
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,760
prism of Pedro flinging Don 
Zimmer to the ground and Big 

793
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,400
Papi and Pedro, Karim Garcia and
Pedro and Posada and all those 

794
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,200
other man eat all the Clemens 
stuff. 

795
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,000
You know, going out to the mound
with the bat, you know, it's 

796
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,720
like it's, it's, I don't know, I
fixed so much of the juice now 

797
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,000
with the Yanks and the Red Sox. 
I think it's all manufactured 

798
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,560
like it's all just a series of 
snippets of highlights from what

799
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,840
used to be. 
I mean, if you're really honest 

800
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
with yourself, do the Yankees 
and the Red Sox have anything 

801
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,400
more than Yankees and Jays right
now? 

802
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,320
I, I thought, not for me. 
Now, having said that, I still 

803
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,440
want to smash them. 
I don't know if they will. 

804
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,200
But yeah, that Yankee Red Sox 
robbery has just been kind of 

805
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,280
muted for a little bit at PG17 
under score 89. 

806
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,640
All right, Knicks need a, a 
taller, true point guard. 

807
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,480
Slide Brunson to the two on 
offense, have them switch back 

808
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,360
to point guard on defense. 
Brunson isn't a point guard. 

809
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,960
They need a floor general to 
keep the ball moving. 

810
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,400
Fair. 
You know, there's only so many 

811
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,000
of them out there. 
I, I, I don't really know what 

812
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,680
to tell you. 
Cam Schlitter's trying to get it

813
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,720
going again. 
That's true. 

814
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,200
That's a good point. 
At virtual discourse yes, I saw 

815
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,520
the other day and I guess it was
yesterday where Cam Schlittler 

816
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960
now we know what happened, you 
know, last year. 

817
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,040
We know he's from up there went 
to college up there in in New 

818
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,440
England and Cam Schlittler, I 
guess I've old Jesse that he's 

819
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,880
received death threats like how 
how much of A psychopath and he 

820
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,320
actually embraced it, which is 
which is interesting. 

821
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,320
He's like bring it on. 
How crazy are this is the most 

822
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,680
obvious statement you could 
possibly make or or question 

823
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,440
that you can ask. 
But like how? 

824
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,560
How insane are you? 
What let what next level crazy 

825
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,760
are you to offer a death threat,
whether it's at the team hotel 

826
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,720
or social media for a guy on 
another team. 

827
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,000
What what in the world are we 
doing here? 

828
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:30,880
One of two things screwed the 
Knicks. 

829
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Either the NBA Cup curse or, 
well, yeah, the curse on Stephen

830
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,000
A at Mets 2128. 
No, it's not the Cup. 

831
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,080
I mean, listen, the Knicks did 
play poorly after that, that's 

832
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,160
for sure. 
But I don't because I don't 

833
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,280
believe it. 
If I don't believe in the 

834
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,320
Jonameth curse, you think I 
believe in any curse 

835
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,680
attributable to the Knicks? 
I just don't. 

836
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,600
I don't take it that way. 
No curses. 

837
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,080
J Rod, are you a curse guy? 
I'm not a huge curse guy. 

838
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,240
Our next caller is, though. 
Our next caller is definitely a 

839
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,240
big curse guy. 
I'll get him in here now. 

840
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:04,080
Just a SEC. 
Let's. 

841
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,040
Get him. 
Yeah. 

842
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,040
I've never. 
I've never. 

843
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:07,040
Yeah, you got. 
I got you. 

844
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,840
I never leaned into that like 
curses, you know where you know 

845
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,080
what name made a deal with the 
devil or let me beat the Colts 

846
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,440
despite being 12 1/2 point dogs 
whatever he was in Super Bowl 3.

847
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:22,160
And because of that, This is why
The Jets are The Jets or like 

848
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,920
the curse of the Bambino. 
Like, OK, well, who rectified 

849
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,920
who reversed the curse? 
I mean, I I just the curse of 

850
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,480
the Billy goat with the Cubs. 
That story going back in the 

851
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,560
day. 
There was a what, what World 

852
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Series was that 19, I don't 
know, old or 1913, whatever the 

853
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,080
heck. 
It was the Cubs. 

854
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,960
There was somebody wanted to 
bring a Billy goat into Wrigley 

855
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,720
Field. 
You know, true what? 

856
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,480
That's the, that's at least the 
history of it, the story. 

857
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,800
And I think he was turned away. 
And then I think the owner of 

858
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,640
the goat said I cursed the Cubs 
or for not allowing my goat to 

859
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200
come into the stadium. 
And then, you know, they finally

860
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,920
broke through. 
But all those years they were 

861
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,840
subjected to the curse of the 
Billy goat. 

862
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Well, you know who alleviated 
that? 

863
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,680
Who, who just who, who made it 
go away? 

864
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,880
I I I just, I can't get behind 
curses dude. 

865
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,960
Yeah, no, I mean, I think it 
like it what in the modern day 

866
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,560
you got like the Clipper curse 
you got I guess like the the 

867
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,160
Mets kind of like, I don't know,
I get at least you hear people 

868
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,800
say the Mets are cursed, but 
they don't really have a true 

869
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,680
reasoning or like onus. 
To yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

870
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,160
Well, you know what it is at J 
Rod. 

871
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,720
At the end of the day, it's 
really the easy, lazy way to 

872
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,680
explain like in a very 
all-encompassing manner, the 

873
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
failures of a team. 
Because to me, think about this 

874
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,240
and I'm going to take The Jets 
for for, for example, here. 

875
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,800
So get ready for the draft and 
we'll see what they do with two.

876
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,120
We'll see what they do with 16. 
We'll see if they make a trade. 

877
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,960
We'll see what what happens. 
Like to me, The Jets aren't 

878
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,720
where they are. 
And The Jets haven't like The 

879
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:52,280
Jets haven't like The Jets 
haven't been the worst team in 

880
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,400
football all these years with 
the longest playoff drought in 

881
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,880
North American team sports 15 
years now because The Jets are 

882
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,560
cursed. 
The Jets have put themselves in 

883
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,720
a position because they have had
horrendous decision making. 

884
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,800
And we've listened. 
This has come up a few times 

885
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,120
here where Dolan made a litany 
of mistakes, you know, whether 

886
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,240
it was Fisher or Hornacek or 
Phil for a role other than coach

887
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,840
or, you know, drafting the wrong
players or whatever it might be.

888
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,560
That wasn't a curse. 
That was just guys, you know, 

889
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,800
making decisions who weren't 
very good at their job, which 

890
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,200
really, you know, over the years
compiled and set you back 

891
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,280
basically a decade and a half. 
And then you bring in Leon Rose,

892
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,880
who's got connections around the
NBA, and it's a little 

893
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,680
different. 
So that that's that's my whole 

894
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,000
thing on the curses. 
I'm not buying it. 

895
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,160
All right, What do you got 
there? 

896
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,760
Jay? 
Hit me up. 

897
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,520
You've got a Seth from North 
Carolina on some Knicks. 

898
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:47,840
OK, Seth is up next here on BT 
Unleashed in North Carolina. 

899
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Seth, what's going on, buddy? 
How are you A? 

900
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,280
Little disappointed and maybe a 
little. 

901
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,080
I mean look, I am pissed at Mike
Brown's stupidity of not having 

902
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,360
a comp Brunson or Towns on the 
floor for 11 1/2 minutes between

903
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,280
them which led to a my 7 point 
differential because he took it 

904
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,440
was the wrong point in time to 
experiment. 

905
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,320
I mean, frustrating, I'll admit 
that, but. 

906
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,080
I well now hold on a SEC, Seth, 
interesting. 

907
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,320
I'm going to let you finish. 
Of course, your it's your tone 

908
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,280
of fresh and this everybody is 
who they are. 

909
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,240
So it's not a knock. 
Your tone as you express your 

910
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:29,160
frustration is very different 
than my tone when I when I 

911
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,240
express frustration, you sound 
like you're talking about the 

912
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:33,920
weather. 
You don't sound very frustrated,

913
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Seth. 
Trust me, it's when I get 

914
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,280
frustrated, like I did with the 
Mets yesterday, I can be a loose

915
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,600
cannon. 
By the way, you Mets going to 

916
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,040
win today or what? 
You got McClain? 

917
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,480
I mean, are you going to win? 
And Steve Cohen, Hey, Steve 

918
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,800
Cohen needs to stay away from 
Madison Square Garden. 

919
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,400
Don't be bringing that negative 
Mets energy into the Garden 

920
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600
right now. 
Steve Cohen was there watching 

921
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,800
the Knicks game, sitting 
courtside. 

922
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,280
Mets have lost eleven straight. 
Worry about the Mets, worry 

923
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,760
about financial portfolios, 
worry about Metropolitan Park. 

924
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Stay away from the Garden. 
Steve, can you, can you do that 

925
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,240
please? 
Don't be bringing that stuff 

926
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:09,440
inside of MSG. 
We don't need that. 

927
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,560
As I was saying, McLean is 
basically coming the new degrom.

928
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Great outings on the mound, but 
he gets little to no run 

929
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,080
support. 
Yeah, yeah, that's true. 

930
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,280
I mean, he's, I love watching 
this kid pitch. 

931
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,880
He is so good. 
I think he's going to deal 

932
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,840
tonight. 
I don't know if the Mets are 

933
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,920
going to hit, but I think that. 
Thank you for the call there, 

934
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Seth. 
I absolutely think Yep, still 

935
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,880
there. 
What? 

936
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,880
Yes, I'm still here. 
All right, go ahead. 

937
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,960
Back to the question of my 
topic. 

938
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,960
Oh, I thought you were all 
right. 

939
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,440
I got you. 
The topic of my question got you

940
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,920
Between the two curses, I 
usually find the cup curse a 

941
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,040
little more logical and more 
understandable because the Dan 

942
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,280
housing curse. 
It's a damn gag. 

943
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,520
I gotcha a lot of people. 
Are not wrestling officiant on 

944
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,400
this show? 
Yeah. 

945
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,720
Well, yes, yes. 
No, there are. 

946
00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,080
There are a bunch there for 
sure. 

947
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,480
I got to look this up. 
The curse of the bill. 

948
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Any other curses that you 
subscribe to there, Seth? 

949
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,080
Anybody else or no? 
No, I mean with The Jets, I 

950
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,760
mean, sure, the deal with the 
devil is constantly, you name 

951
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,520
it's deal with the Devil's come 
to bite them in the ass multiple

952
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,880
times over the last six decades.
No, I don't believe in that. 

953
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Come on, man. 
Deal with the devil. 

954
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,960
We talked about he went out 
there and they beat a great 

955
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,800
team. 
What? 

956
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,160
What deal did he make? 
Come on. 

957
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,800
He openly stated in press review
what interviews, what guarantee 

958
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,760
he's not, even if it was meant 
as a joke that he made a deal 

959
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,960
with the devil that The Jets 
would win a Super Bowl. 

960
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,640
No, no, he wait a second, said 
he's yeah, he said, I guarantee 

961
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,400
it. 
Did he actually say, quote, I 

962
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,760
made a deal with the devil? 
No, he didn't stop, Seth. 

963
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,680
No way. 
Thanks for the call. 

964
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120
No way. 
And the way that went down, 

965
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,160
think about this, like he said 
that poolside Joe sitting there 

966
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,640
and he's by the pool and all the
reporters are around them. 

967
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,200
And it was like so innocuous. 
It wasn't like I remember 

968
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,040
Patrick Ewing may used to make a
lot of bold predictions, many of

969
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,080
which really never came true. 
I mean, if you're if you 

970
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,720
remember that and we love Pat, 
but I can't tell you how many 

971
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,480
times I heard Pat. 
I guarantee we're going to win. 

972
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,440
We're going to win game seven. 
We're going to win tomorrow. 

973
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,080
You know, see you back in the 
garden. 

974
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,800
I guarantee it. 
I so many because I used to clip

975
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,040
them out and cut them out and 
put them in my basement, hang 

976
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,040
them. 
I had a little montage going 

977
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,640
into our bathroom in the 
basement and and you know, 

978
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,240
almost none of them came true. 
I remember one it said see you 

979
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200
tomorrow and it's it with an 
exclamation. 

980
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,040
And instead of YOU they spelled 
UEWCU tomorrow. 

981
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,400
Anyway, the curse of the Billy 
goat. 

982
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,960
You want to you want to hear 
this, Jay? 

983
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,840
Absolutely. 
Give it to me. 

984
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,800
OK, so OK Oh, I was off on the 
air. 

985
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,680
My bad. 
All right, so the Curse of the 

986
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,320
Billy Goat was a sports curse 
that was supposedly placed on 

987
00:48:54,320 --> 00:49:01,200
the Cubs in 1945 by by by Billy 
Goat Tavern owner William 

988
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,280
Cianus. 
The curse lasted 71 years, blah 

989
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,000
blah blah. 
During game four of the 1945 

990
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,800
World Series at the Rig, Cianus 
pet goat named Murphy was 

991
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,680
bothering other fans, so the 
pair were asked to leave the 

992
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,520
stadium. 
I mean, they actually let it go 

993
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,920
in the stadium. 
This is not 19-O2. 

994
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,080
I mean, this is almost 1950. 
I'm a little surprised by that. 

995
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,520
Outraged. 
See, outraged, Cianus allegedly 

996
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,200
declared them Cubs. 
They ain't going to win no more.

997
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,160
Quote which had which had been 
interpreted to mean that the 

998
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Cubs would never win again, at 
least for the remainder of 

999
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,000
Cianus life. 
All right, there you go. 

1000
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,440
That is wild dude. 
Wow, yeah, Now again, I'm. 

1001
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120
I'm looking at the Wikipedia 
page, the exact nature, the 

1002
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,680
curse, different accounts, 
various accounts. 

1003
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,800
Some state that he declared that
no World Series games would ever

1004
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,600
be played at Wrigley Field 
again, while others believe that

1005
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,000
his band was on the Cubs 
appearing in the World Series. 

1006
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,280
So making no mention of a 
specific venue. 

1007
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,160
So a little bit unclear there, 
but yeah, I'm just I'm not, I'm 

1008
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,520
not a cursed guy. 
I I'm not a cursed guy at all. 

1009
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,240
Well, I mean, I'm I'm just not. 
I mean, if you are and you and 

1010
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,240
you root for a certain team, 
just pack up shop. 

1011
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,880
If you believe in curses, you 
got no hope. 

1012
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,280
Add notorious dole 13. 
I mean, The Jets curse seems 

1013
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,560
real to me. 
And I guarantee if they ever 

1014
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,920
make it, they're going to lose 
just to spite us. 

1015
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Yeah, I just can't subscribe to 
that. 

1016
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,840
You might be right. 
I mean, you very well might be 

1017
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,840
there. 
And Mr. Notorious, I hear you, 

1018
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,280
buddy, up my bed. 
But, yeah. 

1019
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,960
And by the way, the the 
guarantee that Joe made as I, as

1020
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,760
I started to say, he's sitting 
around the pool and you got all 

1021
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,200
the riders around them. 
And it wasn't like some bull 

1022
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,320
like, oh, I guarantee we're 
going to smoke the Colts 

1023
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,840
tomorrow. 
I guarantee we're going to beat 

1024
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,680
them. 
It was just, you know, I, I 

1025
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,840
think really the genesis of it 
was, was the reporters were 

1026
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,960
asking him about their chances, 
which nobody really gave them 

1027
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,760
much of a chance. 
And if I was around at that 

1028
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,520
point and I wasn't a Jet fan, 
I'm laying in the wood. 

1029
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,200
I mean, I'm, I'm betting the 
Colts, I mean, 12 1/2 point 

1030
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,720
favorites. 
Nobody thought, nobody thought 

1031
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,200
The Jets were going to win that 
game. 

1032
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,120
So, you know, I would have been 
calling up my guy cuz there was 

1033
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,880
no online stuff at that point. 
You know, and hopefully couple 

1034
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,200
of days after meeting him on the
street corner getting a bag of 

1035
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,280
money, but I wouldn't have that 
would have been paying him money

1036
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
because I would have bet the 
Colts anyway when they brought 

1037
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,960
it up. 
He's like, yeah, they're good 

1038
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,280
man. 
We're but you know, I I we're 

1039
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,640
going to win. 
I guarantee it. 

1040
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,440
You know, that southern drawl, I
guarantee we're going to win. 

1041
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,680
I guarantee it. 
And it wasn't just this 

1042
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,680
ridiculous over the top, you 
know, wrestling cutting a promo 

1043
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,160
kind of deal. 
I guarantee we're going to win. 

1044
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,280
I got faith in my boys there. 
I I guarantee it. 

1045
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,120
All right, What do we got next 
here? 

1046
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,280
Jay, pop them up. 
Who do you have? 

1047
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,000
We've got Carlos from Winston 
Salem North. 

1048
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,280
Carolina, All right, all right. 
I like the the Southern market 

1049
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,240
has tapped into BT on Leesville.
Carolina's coming in here, huh? 

1050
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:48,760
Yeah. 
It is Carlos Winston. 

1051
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,480
That's where Stephen A went. 
Winston Salem. 

1052
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,720
State right down the street. 
What's happening, brother? 

1053
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,760
Listen, appreciate you bringing 
us on. 

1054
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Really appreciate it. 
Thank you, ma'am. 

1055
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,760
One thing I got to say is 
Brunson, I'm wondering if the 

1056
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,120
book is out, do teams realize 
that if you get under his skin 

1057
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,560
and you know, you know, he's 
getting cooked on the defensive 

1058
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,280
end? 
Like, are they getting him to to

1059
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,000
to to start playing this hero 
ball because they're getting him

1060
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,200
out of the plan? 
Get the ball to Cat, get the 

1061
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,480
ball to the other players. 
But no, let's go down there, 

1062
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,400
start cooking them, talk to him,
get under his skin and they know

1063
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,080
he's going to come back and try 
to score. 

1064
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,360
Yeah, it's an interesting 
thought. 

1065
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,800
I mean, do you, I know that you,
you throw it out there, do you 

1066
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,560
believe that or, or you just 
throw it out there as a 

1067
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,440
possibility? 
I believe that Brunson has a 

1068
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,360
humility problem. 
And, you know, really? 

1069
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040
He's a dog. 
All right, you got to be a dog 

1070
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,120
right to. 
No doubt. 

1071
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,720
To to do that, but at the same 
time, it's like when he can't 

1072
00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:00,280
get his shot off, when he can't 
be the man, he feels like he has

1073
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:06,960
to keep trying to be that person
instead of instead of deferring.

1074
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,480
You know he's. 
Got the the dog is on the team 

1075
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,200
now. 
Does he act like a dog all the 

1076
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,720
time? 
And I'm talking about cat. 

1077
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,520
He's the cat dog. 
Yeah, I get you. 

1078
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,760
Get him the ball. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1079
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,760
Well, there's a lot there. 
OK, Well, think about this. 

1080
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,000
I mean, Carlos, how much do you 
want to put on the coach? 

1081
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,480
I mean, he is the coach. 
I mean, think about before you 

1082
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,600
even answer, think about this, 
right? 

1083
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,760
So who's your football team? 
You're a Panthers fan. 

1084
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,880
What? 
Who's your NFL team? 

1085
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,400
Actually, I'm a Dolphin fan. 
Dolphins fan. 

1086
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,160
All right, Yikes. 
I mean, not that I have much to 

1087
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,360
say about Dolphins. 
They've been been there since 

1088
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,920
Burrito, but I'm trying to win. 
Dolphins. 

1089
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:49,880
Go ahead. 
All right, so you know, dolphins

1090
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,000
play the pads. 
Dolphins play Chiefs in a prime 

1091
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,080
time game and like the Dolphins 
throw it 70% of the time they 

1092
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,360
run at 30 and you know, you're 
calling up or you're tweeting 

1093
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,760
away or you're doing whatever 
you do to you as you react to a 

1094
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,760
game and you are upset with the 
game plan. 

1095
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,240
Now it's not to whom obviously 
he's gone, but it's not to his 

1096
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:14,400
fault that they threw it 71 or 
72% of the time it's the play 

1097
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,680
caller, right? 
So don't you think we've got to 

1098
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,560
differentiate between and I know
it's not quite, it's not like, 

1099
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,360
yes, you call plays in the NBA, 
but there's also a lot of free 

1100
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,000
flow and read and react. 
I think that, you know, like, 

1101
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,120
you got to look at the coach to 
some extent. 

1102
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,360
You got to put your foot down 
and he just hasn't done it. 

1103
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,680
I mean, we love Brunson. 
He's got too much freedom to do 

1104
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,400
whatever he wants. 
That's a problem that has not 

1105
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,960
been rectified. 
No, you're right. 

1106
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,080
It's interesting because I'm 
hearing a lot of people blame 

1107
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,680
Brown and I get why you would 
blame Brown. 

1108
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,520
And I don't know if you noticed 
it. 

1109
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,360
It might have been in the third 
or early in the 4th. 

1110
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,880
It seemed like Rick Brunson went
to Brown and said get him out of

1111
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,360
the game. 
I can't. 

1112
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,320
Did you see that? 
Where? 

1113
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,680
I saw that, but I don't. 
I didn't. 

1114
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,040
I don't know. 
I didn't. 

1115
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,960
Yes, I saw it. 
I wasn't thinking that, he said.

1116
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Get him out of the game, but of 
course I saw that. 

1117
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,320
I mean, you think he's really 
saying get him out of the game 

1118
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,960
at that point? 
That's what I mean. 

1119
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,240
Right after that, they brought 
in what's his. 

1120
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,280
Name. 
I know, I know, I know, but I 

1121
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,720
don't. 
I don't it's weird because he 

1122
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:21,760
wasn't playing good at that 
point and that no. 

1123
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,360
That's at all. 
I'm wondering if Brown is kind 

1124
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,920
of like skating the line between
does he want to take? 

1125
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,520
What is the word I'm trying to 
say? 

1126
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,280
Take the ball out of out of 
Brunson's hand or let him figure

1127
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,760
it out. 
Well, I mean, listen, Carlos, 

1128
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,760
it's it's a tough situation 
because when you have and thanks

1129
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,800
for the call, buddy, good call. 
Thank you, brother. 

1130
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Make sure you keep checking in. 
Thank you very much. 

1131
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,680
I it's it's tricky in this 
sense. 

1132
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,600
Like there is a lot of evidence 
that when you give Jalen Brunson

1133
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,680
the ball and you let him cook 
and basically read and react. 

1134
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,840
I mean, he's delivered a lot of 
wins for the Knicks. 

1135
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,640
He's as clutch as it gets. 
He's at a multitude of 40 point 

1136
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,080
games in the playoffs. 
So it's not like it's 

1137
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,240
irresponsible to let Jaylen 
Brunson operate with this 

1138
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:20,480
freedom. 
But you know, the next level. 

1139
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,840
Maybe there's a slight 
alteration, but if it's not 

1140
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,000
found by now, I feel like it's 
just a little presumptuous to 

1141
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,960
think that, well, they'll figure
like, OK, we can identify this 

1142
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,320
here doing a show. 
But the fact that they still 

1143
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,720
play the same way is worrisome 
because we've been talking about

1144
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:43,880
like, this is not the first day.
Now, I have not been incredibly 

1145
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,960
hard on Jalen Brunson this year,
but I brought up some some 

1146
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,520
things that bother me about him.
Like he's not bulletproof. 

1147
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,040
He's not beyond reproach. 
We all know he's not a good 

1148
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,040
defender and we all know 
sometimes he takes some bad 

1149
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,640
shots and it's ISO ball and he's
ball dominant and guys just 

1150
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,480
stand around and there's 
frustrations to build there, you

1151
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:07,280
know, and if it hasn't been 
fixed by now, that means that it

1152
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,560
hasn't been really addressed. 
And if it has been addressed, it

1153
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,640
hasn't been addressed. 
You know, in a, in a way that's 

1154
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,280
that's worked. 
So that's a coaching aspect. 

1155
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,560
I I don't, I don't know what the
answer here is. 

1156
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,480
You know, I just don't When you 
look at this Knicks team, like 

1157
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,240
if you told me, think about all 
the years, right? 

1158
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,360
Oh, let's forget about even the 
Knicks. 

1159
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,840
Take any team, right? 
You are a fan of an NBA team. 

1160
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,520
And I said to you, hey, here's 
what I'm going to give you going

1161
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,400
into the season, OK? 
I'm going to give you a point 

1162
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,840
guard who has the best clutch 
numbers in the NBA, number one. 

1163
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,040
And he's going to put up 
basically 25 at night and he's 

1164
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,520
going to be a star and he's in 
his 20s still. 

1165
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,120
OK, boom. 
I'm going to give you guys 

1166
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:54,120
basically 7 feet, who's 80% from
the line, who's been all NBA, 

1167
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,880
who's 40% from downtown and you 
know, rebounds. 

1168
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,840
Not, not not the old school 
Charles Oakley way of 

1169
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,800
rebounding, but his rebounding 
numbers are always there. 

1170
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,640
So you're going to have that as 
well. 

1171
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,720
I'm going to give you a couple 
of wings who could shoot from 

1172
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,080
the corner, who could D it up. 
Obviously I'm going to give you 

1173
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,760
a bench that's pretty good. 
You got a little defense, you 

1174
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,480
got a little offense, you got a 
backup center who is by far even

1175
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,600
close. 
I mean, I was going to say he's 

1176
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,240
the best backup, backup big in 
the NBA. 

1177
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,600
Then you start to think that 
Mitch Robinson might be the best

1178
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,600
backup big in the history of the
game, not just now. 

1179
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,400
I mean, who else is a better 
bat? 

1180
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,040
Like who does what he does as a 
backup? 

1181
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,560
And I remember watching Bill 
Walton backup Robert Parish in 

1182
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,520
the mid 80s. 
But Walton was a demand. 

1183
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,880
He was still like great 
aptitude, great IQ, but a real 

1184
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,440
diminished figure at that point.
So in terms of like, name, sure,

1185
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,760
they want to tell me Walton, but
Kareem never had those kind of 

1186
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,240
guys backing him up. 
And you know, Hakeem never had 

1187
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,480
that. 
Patrick certainly never had 

1188
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,760
that. 
Patrick had Herb Williams, who 

1189
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,120
we love, and Chris Dudley. 
I mean, jeez, the more I think 

1190
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,880
about this, I think Mitchell 
Robinson is the best backup five

1191
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,480
in the history of the NBA. 
So you got that, too. 

1192
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Again, you still can't quite 
figure this out, man. 

1193
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,240
Oh, man. 
And just to be clear, this is 

1194
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,560
completely consistent with what 
I have said all year about the 

1195
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,720
Knicks. 
They're fun, they're good. 

1196
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,440
Some nights they're really good.
But their flaws terrify me. 

1197
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,960
And I think what's happening now
is the distribution of blame is 

1198
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,960
growing. 
It went from the head coach and 

1199
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,400
then. 
Cat just like body. 

1200
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,640
Language And you know, Cat 
doesn't play. 

1201
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,640
You know, he's big and strong 
but doesn't play that 

1202
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,840
conventional forceful way. 
And especially as a Knick fan, 

1203
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,280
you know, watching Patrick play 
and being a fan of the 90s 

1204
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,760
Knicks where there's an 
association of toughness and 

1205
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,240
like that, even though that's a 
million years ago and nobody 

1206
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,640
really wants to hear it anymore.
Jeez. 

1207
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,800
But you know, if you grew up 
and, and you watch that team, 

1208
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,880
they like there's a culture. 
Like there's a, there's an 

1209
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,960
aspect of Knick basketball that 
we always want to be and see is 

1210
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,640
transferable. 
And that's toughness. 

1211
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Starks had it, Pat had it, Oak 
had it, Mace had it. 

1212
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,440
Everybody had Derek Harper had 
it. 

1213
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,000
Everybody on the team had it. 
Otherwise you weren't on the 

1214
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,760
team except maybe Hubert Davis, 
who was a shooter, right? 

1215
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:25,440
So he was an easy target. 
You know, he's a little, and I 

1216
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,800
said, I don't mean this as a 
shot. 

1217
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,080
Cat's a little goofy like his, 
You know, he's he's odd, he's 

1218
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,600
fluid, but he's he's not, he's 
not, he's not incredibly fluid. 

1219
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,000
Like, you know, remember when 
Westbrook pushed him, pushed him

1220
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,800
out of the post earlier this 
year, 63 I mean, come on, All 

1221
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,080
the the double pumps and the 
flails at the rim. 

1222
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,080
Like he is an easy target. 
All right. 

1223
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:53,080
But that man, that man, Karl 
Anthony Towns, has reshaped the 

1224
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:58,560
way he plays the game and he has
tried to fit in and he has fit 

1225
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,560
in and the efficiencies been 
really good. 

1226
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,760
And he continues to get ignored.
And that's going to be the 

1227
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,240
reason why the Knicks don't win.
It might not be the only reason,

1228
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,080
but it's going to be a central 
reason. 

1229
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,560
What do you got there, Jay? 
Anything. 

1230
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,800
We've got a Tyler from Syracuse,
NY. 

1231
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,280
Oh, I think that is, I believe, 
Tyler's first time calling the 

1232
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,840
show all the way up there. 
Tyler, what's going on, buddy? 

1233
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,560
How are you? 
How's it going? 

1234
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,640
Tyler Rowland here. 
I have a question. 

1235
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,600
Here you go. 
I had a question about, you 

1236
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,360
know, what do you think about 
the? 

1237
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,360
The Knicks like championship 
window. 

1238
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,600
You think this is this could be 
the last year that they could 

1239
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,320
get it going because I feel like
when I'm watching the game. 

1240
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,800
They always show like these 
sparks where they they are 

1241
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,680
easily. 
I feel like the best team in the

1242
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,320
league, but then they also have 
the sparks of you know, what are

1243
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,680
what are they doing? 
Yep. 

1244
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,360
I feel like if this doesn't work
this year and it didn't work 

1245
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,080
last year, I feel like do you 
think it's time to switch 

1246
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,640
something up Yes yeah, 100%. 
I can promise you that's what's 

1247
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:06,360
going to happen. 
Now. 

1248
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,760
Here's what's interesting 
though. 

1249
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,800
Generally when, and tell me if 
you agree with this, when you 

1250
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,800
have a core of players, right? 
And I mean, it's not quite the 

1251
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,320
same, but we went through the 
Mets core. 

1252
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,720
You know, we talked about that a
lot, how obviously they they 

1253
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,760
really changed things up. 
Doesn't look good now, but they 

1254
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,200
did change things up. 
Like when you have a core that's

1255
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,240
together for a long time, 
especially in basketball, and 

1256
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,080
that core gets busted up. 
Generally at that point, the 

1257
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,640
championship when the window was
sealed shut. 

1258
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,240
I would answer it this way, 
Tyler, if the Knicks don't get 

1259
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,800
like to the finals or at least 
the Eastern Conference finals 

1260
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,880
and then play well and have a 
deep series, then wholesale 

1261
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,640
changes are coming. 
So this iteration, this version 

1262
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,320
of the Knicks championship 
window would be over. 

1263
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,000
But and and this is at least 
somewhat encouraging because now

1264
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400
you start talking about Giannis 
and we'll see if he flexes 

1265
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920
behind closed doors and forces 
away here. 

1266
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,040
Usually when when the window 
shuts, it's almost like a 

1267
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,040
rebuild. 
But even if it doesn't, and I 

1268
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,920
don't want to get too much into 
next year now playoffs are just 

1269
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,280
starting. 
But it's a good question. 

1270
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,760
Yes, this window would shut, but
I believe another one would 

1271
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,720
open. 
For how long? 

1272
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,160
I don't know, because I don't 
know what it would take to to go

1273
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,480
out and get Yanis. 
And you know, that calf does 

1274
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,120
worry you because we've seen a 
lot of calf injuries be a 

1275
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,200
precursor to Achilles, whatever.
So there's other things that 

1276
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,040
play downstream, but it would 
still be open. 

1277
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,640
But it would be open with a 
different cast. 

1278
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,360
Do you believe? 
Do you agree with that? 

1279
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,440
Yeah, I agree. 
I think it. 

1280
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,480
It will be very tough to get 
Giannis. 

1281
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,240
Well, it's Tyler. 
It's not tough if he basically 

1282
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,400
tells Milwaukee, if you don't 
trade me to the Knicks, then I'm

1283
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,720
I'm not going wherever you send 
me like and he's not that kind 

1284
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,560
of personality to do it 
publicly. 

1285
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,760
But it seems like he's pretty 
motivated to get here. 

1286
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,080
And I think he's going to be 
dealt this summer. 

1287
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,280
I never thought he was going to 
be dealt. 

1288
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,800
We talked about this. 
I never thought he was going to 

1289
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,200
be dealt during the regular 
season. 

1290
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,400
You know, there was some smoke 
and some some sparks like, well,

1291
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,800
you know, maybe during the no or
during the summer. 

1292
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,280
No, I think it's going to happen
this summer. 

1293
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,280
I think he will be Yelp for 
Milwaukee and he's got the cards

1294
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,680
and he brought up a 
championship, so they very well 

1295
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,240
might do right by him. 
It seems like he wants New York 

1296
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,440
and if that's the case, I I 
believe he can carve his path 

1297
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,480
here. 
Yeah, I think it'll be tough for

1298
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,280
because I don't I don't know 
what do you think? 

1299
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,560
But I think Cat has lost 
significant value this season 

1300
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,760
and I feel like you need the 
young core, which you guys are 

1301
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,000
good enough where you don't 
really get the draft picks to. 

1302
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,520
Yeah, guys, a lot of play. 
Toddler. 

1303
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,880
I almost want to I want to end, 
you know, pushing it too far 

1304
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,720
forward. 
Thank you for the call, buddy up

1305
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,920
at Syracuse. 
Oh, you got it, man. 

1306
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,480
Thanks for reaching out there. 
You know, I mean, the core and 

1307
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,520
it like, you know, gonna have a 
new bench next year to an 

1308
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,280
extent. 
I mean, I I can't I can't get 

1309
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,840
too wrapped up into next year 
now. 

1310
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,400
But no, I mean, I think we all, 
we all went into the season 

1311
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,200
knowing Mike Brown's getting one
big swing and you know, based on

1312
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,080
what Tom Thibodeau accomplished 
as a coach was very successful. 

1313
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,960
Now you're here to take the next
step. 

1314
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,360
And if you don't, there's going 
to be repercussions from a 

1315
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,840
coaching perspective and there's
going to be repercussions from a

1316
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,080
personnel perspective. 
That's just the way it is. 

1317
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,640
J Rob, what do you have up next 
there, buddy? 

1318
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,960
We've got Tim. 
He didn't disclose where he's 

1319
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,480
from, but I'm sure we'll be able
to figure that out. 

1320
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,920
We'll figure it out. 
There you go, Jay. 

1321
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,680
Thank you very much, Timmy. 
Where you at there, Tim? 

1322
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,280
What's going on, Tim? 
Timmy. 

1323
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,240
Hey, BT, can you hear me? 
Yeah, I got you, Tim. 

1324
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,160
Where are you calling from, Tim?
Hey, BT, can you hear me? 

1325
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,240
I got you, buddy. 
Where? 

1326
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,280
Where you calling from, Tim? 
BT can you hear me? 

1327
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,600
OK, I'm gonna have to gonna have
to drop. 

1328
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,680
Sorry, Tim, Sorry. 
So good. 

1329
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,800
So he never told you anybody who
else we have in the queue set it

1330
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,120
up there, Jay? 
We've got Mike from Queens, NY 

1331
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,720
Mike, are you here? 
Queens is stepping up Mike, 

1332
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,200
what's going on, Mike? 
Hey BT thanks for taking my 

1333
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,600
call, man. 
Big fan back from the fan with 

1334
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,720
Sal and everyone. 
I just want to talk about Dolan.

1335
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,400
I really think Dolan's a problem
here. 

1336
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,920
I feel like Dolan today. 
Go ahead. 

1337
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,640
Let me hear it, man. 
I I mean let's let's talk about 

1338
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,320
it man. 
Dolan was really controlling 

1339
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,520
this team a couple seasons ago. 
We were in a dark place. 

1340
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,120
You give Leon the ropes and he's
really bringing this team back 

1341
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,920
to life. 
And then disappointing way to 

1342
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,000
end the season last year. 
But then I think it's pretty 

1343
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,640
obvious Dolan wanted to keep 
Tim, Tom Thibodeau, Dolan wants 

1344
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,440
them out. 
You don't really have a plan set

1345
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,200
up. 
You bring Mike Brown in, he wins

1346
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,800
two extra games from last season
without having Bronson for about

1347
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,280
two months. 
You don't have Mitch until 

1348
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,240
January, February of last 
season. 

1349
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,920
You get a Eastern Conference 
final team handed on a platter 

1350
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,080
and it's just embarrassing. 
It's really embarrassing how the

1351
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,560
Knicks were closing out games 
this season, how they closed out

1352
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,080
last night. 
And it really just doesn't make 

1353
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,160
sense. 
You have no plan. 

1354
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,280
You want to fire Thibodeau. 
And on top of all the things 

1355
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,240
that Mike Brown doesn't have the
best reputation. 

1356
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,480
We've heard rumors that, you 
know, he's lost the locker room,

1357
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,160
he's lost the team. 
Whether people don't respect him

1358
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,040
as much. 
I just don't really think it was

1359
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,040
the best decision. 
OK, but hold on, hold on, Mike. 

1360
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,880
So hold on, Mike, hold on. 
Let's flush through this. 

1361
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,800
You're throwing a lot of stuff 
out there and and that's fine. 

1362
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,600
Let's talk through it. 
But it's I got to be honest with

1363
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,400
you, very strange day to call 
and have James Dolan as the 

1364
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,960
lead, like the full focal point 
of your ire. 

1365
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,480
I'm just not feeling that. 
And trust me, I've I've 

1366
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,800
destroyed Dolan over the years. 
My God. 

1367
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,080
But today's the day that you get
a call that hammer James Dolan. 

1368
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,520
Dolan does the right thing. 
He writes the checks whenever 

1369
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,800
someone needs to get paid. 
Dolan does do the paying. 

1370
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,400
But I don't know, I just feel 
like after the way the season 

1371
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,040
ended last season and getting 
rid of Thibodeau, which was it 

1372
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,640
seemed like it was all Dolan's 
doing. 

1373
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,440
You know, everyone heard that he
was in all those meetings, all 

1374
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,720
the player meetings and 
everything. 

1375
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,800
I just I just don't like the 
look of it. 

1376
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,600
I remember in the middle of the 
season when the Knicks had that 

1377
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,840
losing streak, it had to come 
down to Brunson who had the 

1378
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,000
players meeting. 
And I guess that's when the 

1379
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,640
Knicks started picking up some 
fire again. 

1380
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,320
But it just stems back to Mike 
Brown was a very bad hire. 

1381
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,800
And it doesn't seem like Leon 
Rose was behind that higher. 

1382
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,640
It seemed like it was Dolan 
doing that higher. 

1383
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,800
And well, I don't I don't know 
that the Knicks had a real plan 

1384
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,400
there, Mike. 
And and thank you for the call. 

1385
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,160
Interesting. 
So, and there's two things at 

1386
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,560
play here. 
Thanks for checking in, Mike. 

1387
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,160
So it's number one, you know, 
and again, this it's kind of odd

1388
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:17,000
to really get into this too, too
much after a, a brutal 12 point 

1389
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,399
fourth quarter collapse at home 
in the first round. 

1390
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,760
But I'll, I'll, I'll indulge for
a moment. 

1391
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,319
Like I don't think the players 
want to play for Tom Pibbenow 

1392
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:27,399
anymore. 
I you know, you talk about when 

1393
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:32,000
there's player exit meetings, 
you know, when you when you have

1394
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,160
a bunch of respected veterans 
and they communicate certain 

1395
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,840
things, I think most owners are 
probably going to pay that some 

1396
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,600
mind. 
You know, we don't know exactly 

1397
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:50,680
the depth of how, you know, how 
much Leon Rose was involved in 

1398
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,080
that. 
And, and at this point I write, 

1399
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,279
it doesn't really matter because
I thought that Tom Thibodeau, I 

1400
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,720
thought it was time to move on. 
Like if I fundamentally disagree

1401
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,560
with the move, which I did not, 
then I, you know, I would have a

1402
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,000
totally different take. 
Obviously, I think that the, the

1403
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,160
search was, was all over the 
map. 

1404
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,279
Like if you want to tell me, and
again, this isn't really the day

1405
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:15,840
to unpack it A-Z, but you the 
next search was on Dawn Staley. 

1406
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,520
They talked to, I mean, they 
talked to everybody. 

1407
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,800
I mean, they had like 7. 
It was very convoluted. 

1408
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,439
The next search, which which 
maybe tells me that the plan 

1409
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,960
wasn't as well mapped out maybe 
as it should be, but I can't 

1410
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:34,080
fundamentally get after James 
Dolan now #1 there's no reason 

1411
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,600
to now. 
They won more games that they 

1412
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:37,880
did a year ago. 
It's not like they had this 

1413
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,279
massive underachievement during 
the regular season. 

1414
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,080
Now, you want to tell me that 
they're not perfect. 

1415
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,040
That's true. 
But is that a personnel thing? 

1416
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Or is that because they got rid 
of Tom Pivotal on board of Mike 

1417
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,399
Brown? 
I mean, I think it's more rooted

1418
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:51,800
in in personnel. 
I just do, and I've always said 

1419
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,160
that I have said this from the 
start, before the season 

1420
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,080
started, I did not think the 
Knicks could win the 

1421
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,560
championship because, and most 
of it was really directed at 

1422
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,000
Cat. 
And I absolved because I didn't 

1423
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,800
really think it was it was fair 
or timely to incorporate Brunson

1424
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,280
at that point. 
I think it's a little bit more 

1425
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:19,320
now and as that relationship on 
the court at that cohesion 

1426
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,520
between Cat and Brunson, we've 
seen a little flicker and then, 

1427
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,400
you know, it's gone. 
It's, it's gone again. 

1428
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,640
I, I just, I, I don't understand
it. 

1429
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:33,560
So I think that the, I think 
that, listen, at the end of the 

1430
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,000
day, I just think that this is 
going to be a very frustrating 

1431
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,240
Nick playoff run. 
I I don't understand why you 

1432
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,520
would expect this to change 
radically just because it's the 

1433
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,720
playoffs. 
Like the, I think the Knicks 

1434
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,400
play hard, like I watch them on 
a nightly basis, right? 

1435
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,320
It's not a lack of effort. 
It's I, I think the skill set or

1436
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,560
the talent OR the inherent 
limitations of some of their 

1437
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,200
defenders or some other things 
about the team, the way they're 

1438
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,320
built. 
I think that that's what's going

1439
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,480
to probably, you know, short 
circuit a championship run. 

1440
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,240
But it's not a lack of effort 
where save. 

1441
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,240
Like if we watch the Knicks 
during the regular season and 

1442
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,640
we're like, all right, we know 
there's another level to go to. 

1443
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,080
Like they're going to crank it 
up and play a little bit harder 

1444
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,240
and play with some more purpose 
and integrity. 

1445
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,200
You know, well, then you can 
say, all right, let's go just 

1446
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:22,720
sit back. 
And, you know, we saw a pretty 

1447
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,400
good version during the regular 
season. 

1448
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,000
Now we'll get a heightened, A 
heightened version with more 

1449
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,080
intensity. 
And now the Knicks are ready to 

1450
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,080
go on this two-month run. 
I mean, Jalen Brunson plays 

1451
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,000
hard. 
You know, Mikhail Bridges plays 

1452
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,440
hard, OG plays hard, Josh Hart 
plays hard, Mitch Robinson plays

1453
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,600
hard, Deuce plays hard, Alvarado
plays hard. 

1454
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,320
You know, Tyler Kolek doesn't 
play much anymore, but when he 

1455
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,880
plays, he plays hard. 
I mean, these guys MO Dor plays 

1456
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,920
hard. 
It's not an effort thing or a 

1457
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,760
commitment thing or an 
engagement thing. 

1458
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,480
It's really just the way they 
are built. 

1459
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:58,040
It's just not championship 
worthy in my opinion. 

1460
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,160
And I really hope that I'm 
wrong, but I think that last 

1461
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:06,400
night was a a very painful, 
early, not subtle reminder. 

1462
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,480
You know, something's just a 
little off. 

1463
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,600
Yeah. 
I mean, I'll read this because 

1464
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,160
it's a super chat. 
I don't want to get too much 

1465
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,320
into this now. 
I I appreciate. 

1466
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,960
Fabulous. 
Thank you. 

1467
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,000
Can Yanis and JB play together 
with JB, give up the ball with 

1468
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,240
Cat and JB be a better matchup? 
It can't be both. 

1469
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,760
Yeah, that is summer. 
You can leave it up for a SEC. 

1470
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,920
Let us handle. 
Get some up there. 

1471
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,120
Jay, I appreciate that, but can 
you get that back up? 

1472
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,320
Thank you. 
Yeah. 

1473
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,440
I mean, I'm not sure. 
Yeah, I I don't. 

1474
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:35,800
I don't know. 
And that's something I will 

1475
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,240
explore down the road. 
I mean, I don't even know if the

1476
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,280
Bucks want cat. 
Like, there's so many layers to 

1477
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,280
this. 
Who the hell knows who else you 

1478
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,760
going to give up? 
It's not going to be a cat for 

1479
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,800
Yana swap, so you might have to 
recruit another team. 

1480
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,720
Don't know. 
A lot of layers to it. 

1481
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,280
That's down the road. 
All I know is last night, you 

1482
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,960
know, you're sitting there, 
you're watching the first 

1483
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,760
quarter, beautiful perimeter 
passing, selfless. 

1484
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,440
Everybody's humming. 
Mitch Robinson's crushing it 

1485
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:04,160
early, just destroying people, 
you know, And then I will tell 

1486
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,240
you, when Mitch, who did he walk
over? 

1487
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,200
Jay? 
Who was that? 

1488
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,680
When he, when he dragged him a 
little bit, Dyson Daniels, It 

1489
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:12,440
was Daniels. 
Yeah. 

1490
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:14,440
What are we doing? 
I don't understand that. 

1491
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,080
I just, that's just, that's just
disrespectful, Yeah. 

1492
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,480
I don't understand why, why you 
would do that. 

1493
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,280
At that point in the game, 
things were going well. 

1494
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:23,720
A. 
Little early, it was a little 

1495
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,760
early to be doing all that. 
Yeah, especially when and 

1496
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,280
listen, Mitch Robinson, he's a 
good he's a good player, but 

1497
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,560
he's so he is the goofiest 
player in the NBA. 

1498
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,920
Like, I don't know if you've 
ever been on his Instagram. 

1499
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,640
I've seen a bunch. 
Of stuff, dude, he's like a 

1500
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,880
southern. 
Hick. 

1501
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:39,720
Oh yeah. 
Acting. 

1502
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,040
Like a like a hooper's body, 
like he's killing with little 

1503
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,280
like snakes. 
I saw stuff like that. 

1504
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,880
So I'm like he's doing stepping 
over Dyson Dick. 

1505
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,520
I saw the snake that the snake 
was the other day was a little 

1506
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,680
guy was actually holding it a 
garden snake. 

1507
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,280
I know he loves his trucks, his 
monster trucks. 

1508
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,760
No, I mean, I love Mitchell 
Robinson, but it's it's I didn't

1509
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,160
I didn't like what he did last 
night. 

1510
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:05,320
You don't need to do that. 
Number one #2 I'm listen, if, if

1511
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,640
maybe if like Alvarado does 
something like that, if you're 

1512
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,480
down by 12 points, you're trying
to spark someone. 

1513
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,080
Nicks were playing well at that 
point. 

1514
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,920
Unnecessary. 
I'm not going to go nuts over 

1515
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,240
it. 
But I mean, you're dragging 

1516
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,280
them. 
You're basically dragging you 

1517
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,000
sack on them, man. 
That's, that's what you're 

1518
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,960
doing. 
So I can understand why they 

1519
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,440
were they were unhappy about 
that. 

1520
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,240
And I think that, you know, 
Mitch, it's funny. 

1521
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,280
I I remember saying when I first
saw him, like Mitchell Robinson,

1522
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,960
for a guy who does get off the 
ground and is explosive and does

1523
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,000
so many things. 
Well, he walks like he's 90, 

1524
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,080
like it it right, doesn't he? 
It's like he's a. 

1525
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,800
Slow player. 
It's painful, but he's not slow 

1526
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,080
when he's doing his thing. 
He's just very creaky and very 

1527
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,160
mechanical, like, just, I don't 
know, you would think that he 

1528
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,120
would be like, the slowest, 
least athletic dude on the 

1529
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,200
court. 
That's not the case. 

1530
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,440
Like, he is great at his job. 
I love Mitch Robinson and I 

1531
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,360
always have. 
But, yeah, I didn't love what he

1532
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,760
did last night. 
How do you say that at Rep QN 

1533
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,480
Y-3430? 
We'll go with that. 

1534
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:01,880
All right. 
Thank you. 

1535
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,560
Hey, you think the Knicks can 
make 220 point comebacks against

1536
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,760
Boston under Brown? 
Fibs brought a toughness to this

1537
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,040
team that Brown does not. 
Now that's interesting that 

1538
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,040
that's probably something that 
at some point is going to 

1539
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,400
manifest itself this year in the
toughness department. 

1540
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,200
And I, I think that that's fair.
Now, I'm not going to say 

1541
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,960
absolutely no because he's 
pretty much got the same 

1542
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,200
players, you know, within, 
outside of a different bench 

1543
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:28,240
that Tom Thibodeau probably 
wouldn't have used anyway. 

1544
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,560
But yeah, I I think that the, 
the DNA and the characteristics 

1545
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,800
of of the Tom Thibodeau teams 
that we really did appreciate 

1546
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,840
really manifested themselves 
when you were down. 

1547
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,000
Like there was just never a 
quit, you know, and certainly 

1548
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,320
regular season tenacity. 
And and you know, you know what 

1549
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,840
I'm talking about. 
Like there's just different, I 

1550
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,800
don't see different energy, but 
a different tenacity. 

1551
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,920
I'm going to keep it simple. 
But I also think that the 

1552
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,000
players that they have, like, I 
mean, Josh Hart to me plays with

1553
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,280
the same tenacity he does. 
I don't see, maybe you want to, 

1554
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,640
I'm not talking about usage 
rate, just in terms of exerting 

1555
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,800
like a physical level of, of 
engagement or or, you know, 

1556
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,800
basketball toughness. 
I don't feel like I'm watching 

1557
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,080
this version of the Knicks 
versus last year's version and 

1558
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:22,160
I'm seeing some precipitous drop
in terms of energy or passion or

1559
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,040
physicality. 
I I don't, I don't really see 

1560
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,120
that. 
I don't see that. 

1561
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,840
I don't know if you guys do. 
I don't see it. 

1562
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,280
I watch every Knick game. 
But yeah, when I you do get the 

1563
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:38,360
sense that if they are down by 
17/18/1920 and it's not the 

1564
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,440
first half, but it's, it's later
in a game, you know, would you 

1565
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:44,520
see those kind of comebacks this
year with Mike Brown? 

1566
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,200
My inclination would be no. 
But you know, I, I can't 

1567
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,760
actually give you a definitive 
answer. 

1568
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,560
I can give you my opinion, but 
there's no right or wrong until 

1569
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,200
we get to that. 
And hopefully we don't get to 

1570
01:16:55,200 --> 01:17:00,080
that position. 
You know what else we got here, 

1571
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,200
Jay? 
What are you seeing is the 

1572
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,320
general tone about the Knicks? 
I know you're reading a lot of 

1573
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:06,080
the chats here. 
Oh. 

1574
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,880
Everything's Knicks. 
Everything. 

1575
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,760
No, no, I know what I for sure. 
I knew it was going to be a big 

1576
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,240
Knicks day. 
Is it? 

1577
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,960
Yeah, it's one game. 
Like I get the sense that no. 

1578
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,000
It's pretty negative, Yeah. 
So it's it's pretty I'd say BT 

1579
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,960
core as the kids would say, 
like, is that right? 

1580
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,160
Yeah, definitely. 
The the people are definitely 

1581
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,960
just behind the idea of listen, 
this is who the Knicks are and 

1582
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,280
not that this game is a like, 
you know, it's not Cyndi Lauper,

1583
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,280
them showing their true colors 
or nothing. 

1584
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,640
Oh, look at you. 
But others I, I, I really do 

1585
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,160
think the general consensus is 
this is who the Knicks are. 

1586
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,080
And trust me, when it comes into
a more pressure filled 

1587
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,920
situation, it's only going to be
exacerbated. 

1588
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,040
Yeah, yeah, that's what really 
worries me about this. 

1589
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,840
And Jay, what? 
What was your first day on the 

1590
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,120
show? 
My first day. 

1591
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:56,480
What dissent? 
January. 

1592
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,200
January what? 
When did you actually start 

1593
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,680
producing the show? 
It was after the kids because my

1594
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,560
son was doing it while he was 
home for Christmas. 

1595
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,880
Yeah, let me see. 
Well, do you know the first day?

1596
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,720
I'm going back. 
I'm guessing. 

1597
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,280
I'm guessing it was in the 
January 20s. 

1598
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,400
Like I'm going back there right 
now. 

1599
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:16,600
All right? 
I'm there. 

1600
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:23,040
It was his NFL irrelevancy 
better than heartbreak on 

1601
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,360
January 19th. 
On January 19th. 

1602
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,560
OK, so you have been here since 
January 19th, All right. 

1603
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,520
Have I ever really deviated at 
all from my take on the Knicks 

1604
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,240
this year? 
Not once, no. 

1605
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,640
I think it's been really 
consistent because I think that 

1606
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,360
it's a pretty easy team to read.
Number one, you you know the 

1607
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,680
competition in the Eastern 
Conference. 

1608
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,160
Like, you know who's good and 
you know what's what? 

1609
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,480
You know who's a threat, You 
know who's not ready yet. 

1610
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,560
But we've also seen this team 
together for a while. 

1611
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,720
And I think it's a pretty early 
read. 

1612
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,680
Like I think for me it's 
tougher, A tougher read just 

1613
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,440
based on what's going on now is 
like, are the Mets going to get 

1614
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,320
their act together? 
I mean, they've lost eleven 

1615
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,480
straight, but I kind of liked 
what the Mets did going into the

1616
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:12,080
season. 
So I'm sitting here saying, all 

1617
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,320
right, I had the Mets. 
I didn't go nuts. 

1618
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,480
I had the Mets as a 91 win team,
a playoff team, you know, not 

1619
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,400
going to the World Series or 
winning anything, but being a 

1620
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,200
wild card team, being a playoff 
team and, and looking different,

1621
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,080
being more athletic, catching 
the ball more and, and, and 

1622
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,000
obviously, you know, winning 
eight more games than they did a

1623
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,480
year ago. 
Now I don't know if I I 

1624
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:36,440
definitely don't have that in 
91. 

1625
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:40,080
Seems like if I had to change 
that, I would go under that, but

1626
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,720
I'm not because it's a long 
baseball season and we've seen 

1627
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,720
whether it's the Nationals years
ago when they won that 

1628
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,200
championship, they started 19 
and 31. 

1629
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,160
We've seen the Yankees come 
flying out of the chute and then

1630
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,400
go basically 50 and 50 / 100 and
then kind of, you know, look 

1631
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,200
different at the end and then 
fall short. 

1632
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,440
We've seen the Mets come out and
go start O and five and then, 

1633
01:20:00,440 --> 01:20:03,360
you know, pop and it like we've 
seen the Mets start great and 

1634
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,120
fizzle like last year. 
So the baseball's different, all

1635
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,480
right, But to me, the Mets. 
The the Mets are a tricky 

1636
01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:14,720
evaluation for me now, but the 
Knicks are not. 

1637
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,480
And I wish that they were, 
because if the Knicks were a 

1638
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:20,120
tricky evaluation, I think I 
would have more hope. 

1639
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,760
I mean like rooted hope. 
I don't mean like, hey, let's I 

1640
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:28,280
hope we win, which of course I 
am, but I mean like substantive 

1641
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,920
hope, like rooted in something 
where I can get on the air and I

1642
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,400
can look you guys in the eye and
I could say I really truly 

1643
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,560
believe that the Knicks are 
going to win a championship. 

1644
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,160
I have over the championship. 
I have not said that once this 

1645
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,960
year, not once, even before the 
start of the season when I was 

1646
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,600
still on WFAN, you know, when 
when we gave our predictions and

1647
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,640
I remember saying, remember, I 
amended this quickly. 

1648
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,120
I'm like, that's, that's a 
little bit ridiculous. 

1649
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,760
I said the Knicks were going to 
win 60 games. 

1650
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,400
And then like as soon as I came 
out of my mouth, I'm like, Nah, 

1651
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,680
probably more like 55. 
Drop your questions in the chat 

1652
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,400
and then what's that? 
Oh, I didn't realize I was still

1653
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,520
on the mic. 
Oh, you're OK, That's all good. 

1654
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:12,640
So it's there's no new evidence 
to the contrary. 

1655
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,720
The Knicks are good and the 
Knicks are interesting and the 

1656
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,920
Knicks are in the conversation, 
but last night shouldn't be 

1657
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,560
stunning. 
We've seen that before. 

1658
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,360
We've seen this happen with this
crew and it's pretty much when 

1659
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,000
the Knicks lose, it's kind of 
the same script. 

1660
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,920
It's Jalen playing hero ball and
it doesn't work. 

1661
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,600
Not by the way, a lot of times 
it does work, to be fair, but it

1662
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,120
doesn't work or something with 
the coaching that's a little off

1663
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,680
or Cats disengaged or just not 
involved, which ties into 

1664
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,360
coaching and Brunson being bold 
dominant, you know, and and 

1665
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,960
that's the bottom line. 
So, yeah, last night stunk, but 

1666
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,480
I mean to to rant and rave, 
which I did a little bit at the 

1667
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:58,360
beginning, but it's it's not 
cathartic because I, I don't 

1668
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,960
want to say I saw this coming. 
I didn't listen going into the 

1669
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,760
fourth quarter and they're up by
12 then. 

1670
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,840
I think the Knicks were going to
lose that game. 

1671
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:10,480
No, but there's a reason why 
going into the series, I said 

1672
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,960
Nixon 5. 
And then I quickly amended that 

1673
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:17,000
and said Nixon 6. 
Like you're just, you know, 

1674
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,040
there's flaws, there's problems.
All right, Jay, I see a couple 

1675
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,920
of callers in the queue. 
Yeah, just a SEC. 

1676
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,080
We're, we're, we're working out 
some audio stuff. 

1677
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,600
OK, we're good. 
We're good, I believe. 

1678
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,840
By the way, yeah, well, hang on.
I'm trying to check this out. 

1679
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,880
Oh, hey, we are basically at 
20,000 Subs. 

1680
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,160
Let's get there. 
Let's get there. 

1681
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,760
I don't know if we'll get there 
by the end of the show. 

1682
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,280
What are we, 13 away? 
I think we're no. 

1683
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:43,240
Straight up I I guarantee 
there's 13 people watching this 

1684
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,640
right now who aren't sub. 
You better. 

1685
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,720
Well, let's go right now. 
I guarantee it. 

1686
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,120
You better hit that sub right 
now. 

1687
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,800
I like it like it sub content, 
you know, messages, all that 

1688
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,240
stuff, the algorithm yeah, look 
at it right now, 19,987 and 

1689
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:00,880
that's that's a symbolic, you 
know, benchmark that that I that

1690
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,600
I want to get to today. 
I mean I will obviously get 

1691
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,240
through it today, but I'd love 
to get it by the end of the show

1692
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,280
and then build off that that 
would that's going to mean 

1693
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,960
something to me. 
You know, 'cause I'm, I told 

1694
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,880
you, I'm looking at, I'm 
literally looking at, can I show

1695
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:15,920
you? 
No, I don't want to mess around 

1696
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,080
with the camera, but I'm looking
at that piece of paper. 

1697
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,960
I mentioned this the other day 
and I've got it written down and

1698
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,560
I got my little Sharpie, you 
know, like they do with the, 

1699
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,920
with the NCAA tournament. 
And every time I hit a 

1700
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,960
benchmark, I cross it off like 
we're going old school. 

1701
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,760
And you know, I'd love to be 
able to write down 20,000 today.

1702
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:32,880
It's going to mean something to 
me. 

1703
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,480
We got Jay, who's all right. 
We've got Tim from Dallas. 

1704
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,760
Tim from Dallas, I believe you 
said. 

1705
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,760
Timmy, are you there? 
Tim, I'm here. 

1706
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,360
How are you doing, buddy? 
What's up, Tim? 

1707
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:44,760
How you doing? 
Doing Good. 

1708
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,400
I'm actually a former Jersey guy
myself, coming from Bergen 

1709
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:48,600
County. 
OK. 

1710
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,680
Where'd you you grew up? 
You went to high school in 

1711
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,200
Jersey? 
Yeah, I went to high school in 

1712
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,600
Bergenfield. 
OK. 

1713
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,480
Hey, did he play ball? 
And he did AT ball. 

1714
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:00,680
Little Little League. 
And then did some tennis in in 

1715
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,960
high school. 
Nice. 

1716
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:02,960
There you go. 
There you go. 

1717
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,920
But I was gonna ask you, how did
you do on your your first pitch 

1718
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,320
in in Arlington the other other 
day? 

1719
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,200
It was the Velo was good. the IT
was not a strike. 

1720
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:12,960
You know, that was Easter 
Sunday. 

1721
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,120
I I told the whole story. 
The ball was slippery. 

1722
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,920
Any excuse I could find, I make 
30,000 people were staring at 

1723
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,000
me. 
You know, I, I wasn't really 

1724
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,320
nervous, but I wanted to throw a
strike so bad and I was so 

1725
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,080
preoccupied with the ball being 
a little slippery. 

1726
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,720
But I got to own it like a man. 
I got to take the L B lo was 

1727
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,880
good delivery, looked like a 
former athlete. 

1728
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,760
It was not a strike and that's 
going to bother me because I 

1729
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,800
wanted to throw a strike, but I 
had a blast. 

1730
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,760
They treated us great that the 
Raiders family. 

1731
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,040
Yeah, that's cool. 
I was going to say you and you 

1732
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,320
and Sasha do like a ABTN style 
on the road. 

1733
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,600
Come come down to Dallas. 
You know, you think you have a 

1734
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,360
good following all around the 
country. 

1735
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,760
Dallas is pretty good. 
I mean, Dallas has treated me 

1736
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,760
and my family very well, so I 
appreciate that. 

1737
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,960
What's going on, Timmy? 
I was going to ask you about the

1738
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,240
next. 
This might be a bit of a 

1739
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,920
shocker, but if the Knicks were 
to somehow lose in this first 

1740
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,920
round or lose the Celtics in the
next round, do you think it 

1741
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,240
might be time to change the 
structure of the team? 

1742
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,960
Maybe like not look at Brunson 
as as a as the lead guy. 

1743
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,000
Maybe they try to not rebuild, 
but kind of retool in a way. 

1744
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,000
Yeah, I, well, I listen, 
Brunson's not going to get dealt

1745
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,800
anywhere, but maybe take away 
some of the responsibilities. 

1746
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,200
Yeah, listen, and I kind of 
addressed this before there, 

1747
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,720
Tim. 
I, I think you get to a point 

1748
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,000
where, you know, there there's a
finite window for any group. 

1749
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,200
And, and think about what I just
said about the Mets, the core 

1750
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,360
with Lindor and Nemo, Pete, 
obviously those guys, you know, 

1751
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:37,040
now Sturms has to prove that 
what he decided to do ultimately

1752
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,560
is the right move. 
But I never thought that core 

1753
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,880
was going to win anything. 
So I agreed with some of the 

1754
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,040
things he did, most of the 
things he did this offseason, 

1755
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:45,960
but he's the jams. 
He's got to get it right. 

1756
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,160
I could just give you my opinion
and my opinion pertaining to the

1757
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,520
Knicks here. 
Yeah. 

1758
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,120
I mean, there's no way you roll 
this thing back. 

1759
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,240
He just. 
There's no chance. 

1760
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,880
Like if the Knicks lose in Round
2, or even if they lose in the 

1761
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,960
conference finals and it's 
lopsided, then I think the coach

1762
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,720
is gone and I believe the core 
will be strongly disrupted. 

1763
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,040
I think it has to be at that 
point. 

1764
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,360
That's what I would do. 
Yeah. 

1765
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,600
Yep. 
Cool. 

1766
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,040
That's what I would do. 
All right. 

1767
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:16,880
All right. 
So next we've got Mike G Mike. 

1768
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,000
G Queens. 
All right, let's go, Mikey. 

1769
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,640
Fired up there, Mikey. 
In Queens. 

1770
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,640
What's going what's going on BT 
how we doing I'm. 

1771
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,680
Good man, how are you? 
Yeah, I was at the game last 

1772
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,840
night, just saw some things from
Mike Brown that got me very 

1773
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,840
disappointed. 
And, you know, I'm thinking this

1774
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,600
is going to be a tougher series 
than I imagined. 

1775
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,200
Specifically, I want to talk 
about the rotations. 

1776
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,360
You know, throughout the regular
season, we always say the 

1777
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,400
regular season's practice for 
the playoffs and we staggered 

1778
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,480
Kat and Brunson like Kat run the
second unit and we come out in 

1779
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:48,440
that second corner with second 
quarter with du, Shamit, 

1780
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,400
Clarkson and Anobi and Mitch and
it's just where's the offense 

1781
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,720
coming from? 
Don't know and I I don't. 

1782
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,120
Know from Clarkson, but we we 
had deuce. 

1783
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,560
And Shamit taking step back 
threes. 

1784
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,720
And then if Clarkson is not 
going to create and he's going 

1785
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,560
to give up points on the other 
end, there's no point of him 

1786
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,120
being in. 
So I think they figured it out 

1787
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,400
at the end. 
Third quarter, they put an 

1788
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,280
Alvarado for Clarkson because if
it's like if we're going for 

1789
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,200
defensive line up, you know, go 
all the way and, you know, just 

1790
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,520
shocking. 
And another thing about the 

1791
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,360
defensive matchups you got, CJ 
was just cooking Brunson the 

1792
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,920
whole game. 
And he crushed. 

1793
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,280
Him and I get you want bridges 
on Walker to take him out you 

1794
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,600
want hard and John so you want 
OG, you know helping off. 

1795
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,560
But at at some point in the 
third or fourth quarter you got 

1796
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,280
to give him a different look. 
It took him to the last two 

1797
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,520
minutes to give CJ a different 
look. 

1798
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,280
It's just like you know, Walker 
in the third quarter is 2 for 

1799
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:33,840
8/2 for 9:00. 
If you give him looks for 

1800
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,160
Brunson, is he confident and 
making everything, you know, 

1801
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,720
just maybe TJ goes cold. 
So you can you just kind of, you

1802
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,400
know, do some adjustments that 
way. 

1803
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Yeah, yeah, I mean, there was 
just a lot wrong with last 

1804
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,160
night. 
And thanks for the call there, 

1805
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,960
Mike. 
And you talk about, you know, 

1806
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,120
staggering the two players, 
which is something I mentioned 

1807
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,200
at the start of the show. 
But also, you know, and again, 

1808
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,520
it wasn't some prolonged 
stretch. 

1809
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,840
It didn't it didn't it didn't 
like ruin the game, but it 

1810
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,400
didn't help. 
I, I don't know why you had the,

1811
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:08,400
the fivesome of Alvarado, 
Clarkson, Bridges, OG, and Mitch

1812
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:13,520
for a 3 minute and 12:00 second 
sequence when those five guys 

1813
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,720
never played a single solitary 
second together in the regular 

1814
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,480
season. 
I, I, I don't understand the 

1815
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,800
logic behind that. 
I just don't get it, you know? 

1816
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,320
I'm sorry. 
I, I, I, Mike Brown had a rough 

1817
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,120
night, but we all know this, 
obviously. 

1818
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:29,920
All right, Jay, what do you got 
cooking, man? 

1819
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,440
We got two more calls. 
Yeah, we've and we've got a 

1820
01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:34,640
couple more in the in the 
backroom. 

1821
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,440
We've got James from Hoboken. 
Go ahead, Jimmy. 

1822
01:28:38,440 --> 01:28:40,920
What's happening, man? 
Hey, BT, What's going on? 

1823
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,200
I'm good. 
How are you, James? 

1824
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,240
Yeah, I thought I'd mix it up a 
little bit and talk Giants 

1825
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:46,480
draft. 
Go for it. 

1826
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,520
Yeah. 
So a lot of mocks are are 

1827
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,240
showing the Giants targeting 
either Downs or maybe Sonny 

1828
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,760
Styles with the first pick. 
Yep, that first pick in the 

1829
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,520
first round. 
So now they got now that they 

1830
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,320
got the 10th pick, I was 
wondering if they might go for 

1831
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,080
an offensive lineman like 
Spencer Finnow from Utah. 

1832
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,120
He's from Utah. 
They got the ones from. 

1833
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,000
Mod receiver, but mod receiver, 
it seems like a pretty deep 

1834
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,440
draft for that. 
So maybe they can target a wide 

1835
01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:13,560
out in the next round, you know,
and go for Yeah, yeah. 

1836
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,040
OK, so who who do you want to 
five? 

1837
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,440
Let me give me name. 
I know you mentioned styles and 

1838
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:22,960
downs and you mentioned the 
possibility of what you think 

1839
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:27,400
they could do in an ideal world.
Your giants walk away with with 

1840
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,560
what players in the first round 
on Thursday night who I I want 

1841
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,040
Sony styles at #5 I mean want 
styles. 

1842
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,360
He seemed like he would be like 
the leader of the defense for 

1843
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:37,480
like 10 years. 
OK. 

1844
01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:40,960
I think he could be that good. 
So OK, no, I I love Sony styles.

1845
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,000
I think you can maybe, maybe 
maybe even trade down a slot or 

1846
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,480
two Maybe. 
But and and still get them And 

1847
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:48,000
then what will you want to 
receive for 10? 

1848
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,640
You want to go defense, defense,
defense, offense, defense all 

1849
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,080
line. 
What was so let me hear the the 

1850
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,360
concept of positional addressing
right. 

1851
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,800
I think I, I think I'd probably 
take a strong look at Spencer 

1852
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,760
for now, that offensive line and
all the tenants. 

1853
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,200
You want to go all the wide. 
Out in the next round, yeah, 

1854
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:07,320
Yeah, there's going to be a 
couple. 

1855
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,160
I mean, some of those receivers 
are going to drop there. 

1856
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,000
James, thanks for the call here.
I listen, this was just this was

1857
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,280
a phenomenal move by the New 
York Giants. 

1858
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,720
It was just phenomenal. 
Now, I talked, I talked about 

1859
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,800
this yesterday where when I saw 
that they got the 10th overall 

1860
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,200
pick, I was I was absolutely 
stunned. 

1861
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,840
Like I hadn't been that 
surprised about something in the

1862
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,720
sports world in a while. 
Really. 

1863
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,200
That's not hyperbolic. 
Like I really, I was like, they 

1864
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:34,640
got what they got the 10th pick.
My goodness that it was on the 

1865
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,920
table for weeks. 
That's crazy. 

1866
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,080
And by the way, you know, as 
much as we focus from a Giants 

1867
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,920
perspective, what they get, of 
course, now you have to hit 

1868
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,880
that. 
You got to hit on the pick 

1869
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,480
there. 
Otherwise it sounds great. 

1870
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:48,680
Now you got a 10th overall pick 
for a really good player, 

1871
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,400
although that player is coming 
off a bad year. 

1872
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,200
Now you got to hit on the pick, 
which is the next thing here. 

1873
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,680
But I think it's also really 
good for Cincinnati. 

1874
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,600
You think about that division, 
if Dexter Lawrence is in shape 

1875
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,800
and Dexter Lawrence is buttoned 
up and ready to go, Think about 

1876
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,480
the quarterbacks, you know, in 
that division. 

1877
01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:08,120
I don't know. 
I don't know what the I mean. 

1878
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,360
Is Aaron Rodgers going back to 
play Aaron Rodgers potential 

1879
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,160
like if he comes back to the 
Steelers, their left tackles got

1880
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,360
issues, which means, you know, 
Aaron Rodger and even if they're

1881
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,480
left tackles, fine. 
You know, you've got a 42 year 

1882
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:24,080
old quarterback that Dexter 
Lawrence going to be destroying.

1883
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,600
I mean just so that's advantage 
there. 

1884
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,160
You think about the Browns. 
I mean you think about what he 

1885
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,200
can do in the AFC North. 
So it makes you know, we just 

1886
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,320
focus on the giants perspective,
I think, but I actually like the

1887
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,680
Bengals doing that as well 
because the Bengals defense is 

1888
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,320
so horrid. 
It's so bad. 

1889
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,360
You've got to give your 
quarterback a chance to do 

1890
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,480
something here with Joe Burrow. 
You have to, you got to maximize

1891
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,560
every single year of a 
quarterback's prime, which is 

1892
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,000
all. 
Which is why I think about Aaron

1893
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,480
Rodgers at the end of his well, 
not even at the end, but during 

1894
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,160
a chunk of his Green Bay tenure.
He's like, dude, can you draft 

1895
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,840
me a wide receiver in the first 
round? 

1896
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,160
He was getting so pissed off. 
They never did it. 

1897
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,000
They didn't never devoted the 
resources there and it drove 

1898
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,080
them nuts. 
And I'm blame them, you know. 

1899
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,000
So I think that that's just to 
decide for what the Giants did. 

1900
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,280
Phenomenal move. 
And I do like it for Cincinnati 

1901
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,040
as well. 
Now what the Giants are going to

1902
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,680
do aside from complicating The 
Jets world, because now you have

1903
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:27,400
to think the Giants are going to
strongly, if not flat out take a

1904
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,400
receiver 10. 
You know, I mean now it's just 

1905
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,640
like, OK, OK, but I'm going to 
put The Jets aside. 

1906
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,120
So I think we're doing our mock 
draft tonight on The Jets 

1907
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,200
collective. 
So we're going to do the first 

1908
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,040
six because it's a Jets show. 
All right, myself and and Rich 

1909
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,560
and and Jake Aspen. 
So we're going to do the 1st 16 

1910
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,280
picks in the draft, right? 
So and, and no trades. 

1911
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:49,400
We're going to do it 
conventionally. 

1912
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:53,360
So you know, one Raiders 2, 
Jets, Cardinals 3, Tennessee 4, 

1913
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,760
Giants 5, blah, blah blah, 
Commander 7, so on and so forth.

1914
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,720
I mean, I keep going back and 
forth like I was working on this

1915
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,840
this morning before unleashed 
here and it's going to be a lot 

1916
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,320
of fun because it's it's in real
time. 

1917
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,360
It's not like we're giving each 
other the picks where we we were

1918
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,440
going to do that. 
And then on our text chain, I'm 

1919
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:13,720
like, yeah, I think we should do
this live. 

1920
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,400
I think it really give a real 
feel war room feel. 

1921
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,200
Pardon me, to like draft night, 
the elements of uncertainty 

1922
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,360
where, you know, if so I'm going
to be picking third with Arizona

1923
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:28,840
and I think Jake is picking The 
Jets too. 

1924
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,120
I think it's rich one and then 
J2 me 3. 

1925
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,160
And then we'll just keep going 
in that order. 

1926
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,920
Like if Jake does something 
wacky, that's obviously going to

1927
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,840
impact what I do and so on and 
so forth. 

1928
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:42,960
So I do think barring something 
wacky, that the draft absolutely

1929
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,720
starts with Arizona. 
I mean, I think the Cardinals 

1930
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,520
could take an offensive line. 
And I've said this to you now, 

1931
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,840
that's not the sexy pick, but 
they need one. 

1932
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,600
And there's two horses who are 
going to go. 

1933
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,120
I certainly one of them is going
to the top ten. 

1934
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,880
I think you might get 2 all 
right, one from Utah, 1 from 

1935
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:01,880
Miami, fat who was won, the 
other one from Miami. 

1936
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,200
So that's a possibility if they 
take an old line, but a three 

1937
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,880
will. 
Now Tennessee, it's like, OK, 

1938
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,240
and let's say The Jets take Risa
2. 

1939
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,800
Does Robert Sala, does he take 
Bailey? 

1940
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,680
He loves those edge, those edge 
rushers, right? 

1941
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,880
But I know we've got Jermaine 
Johnson in the trade. 

1942
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,440
Maybe you you bookend them with 
Bailey coming out of Texas Tech.

1943
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:26,400
If the Cardinals were to kind of
mess around to take Jeremiah 

1944
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,360
Love, which some people think 
that he could, that they could. 

1945
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,640
Well now, all right, well, now 
the Titans who could take 

1946
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,320
Jeremiah love as well. 
It impacts what they do, which 

1947
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,800
impacts what the Giants do. 
Because listen, I don't think 

1948
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,320
the Giants are taking Jeremiah 
Love. 

1949
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,640
I don't, but I I don't know if 
you can rule it out. 

1950
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,680
Like I'm not going to rule it 
out, but I I just I'm not 

1951
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,880
married to that. 
I think at the end of the day, 

1952
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,840
the Giants are walking away with
a stud defender of five and a 

1953
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,920
receiver or an offensive line, 
but a 10. 

1954
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:58,200
That's what I think. 
The other variable, could they 

1955
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,640
go defense, defense? 
They could. 

1956
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,760
That would surprise me. 
I think The Jets are more 

1957
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:07,480
inclined to go defense, defense 
of two and 16 if they don't make

1958
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:09,800
any trades. 
But it is going to be absolutely

1959
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,320
awesome. 
I cannot wait for the NFL draft.

1960
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,080
It's going to be on. 
All right, Jay, fire up that 

1961
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,040
call, buddy. 
Who do we have? 

1962
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:20,000
We've got Matt G. 
What up BT and? 

1963
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,000
Where's what up Matt? 
Where you calling from, buddy? 

1964
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,480
Where you at? 
I'm calling from new city, 

1965
01:35:25,480 --> 01:35:29,360
Rockland County. 
Nice, right by New York Country 

1966
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,680
Club I I lost a lot of balls. 
Exit 11 off the Palisades. 

1967
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,960
Oh yeah, I've I've humiliated 
myself on that 10th hole in 

1968
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,520
front of people eating lunch 
many times. 

1969
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,960
Yes, well, now think about that.
That used to be let me see hold 

1970
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,240
on, because they flipped it. 
So the it's now that's the 

1971
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,800
downhill to par 4. 
You got the little lake in front

1972
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,160
of it. 
I always try to play a hero, go 

1973
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,120
for the green rather than laying
up with the mid iron. 

1974
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,080
But then they flipped that now 
is that one or is that 10 now, 

1975
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,960
because I know they flipped it 
at some point. 

1976
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:04,080
What hole is that now? 
Did we lose Matt? 

1977
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,800
We we may have Matt. 
Hello, Matt. 

1978
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:09,400
Matt. 
You there? 

1979
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,120
Guess not. 
All right, Chris off the Charlie

1980
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,120
in Pearl River, NY. 
No, I know Pearl River. 

1981
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,960
What's going on there, Charlie? 
I was just at Pearl River for 

1982
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,960
with cross country, cross 
country mortgage. 

1983
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,160
I did a big motivational speech 
there was great. 

1984
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,320
What's going on, bud? 
Yeah, it's a great little town. 

1985
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:29,880
Yeah, I'm originally from 
Bensonhurst. 

1986
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,840
Just wanted to say we're super 
proud of you as a fellow 

1987
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,400
Brooklynite. 
Thanks, man. 

1988
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:39,840
You're doing big things and 
we're glad to see you really 

1989
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,240
making it big, you know? 
Try to get going here. 

1990
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,360
I I, I appreciate that, Charlie.
By the way, what, what is that? 

1991
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:47,480
St. 
Tom's Parish? 

1992
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,440
What parish? 
Yeah, that was actually, Yeah. 

1993
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,640
That's why I had my communion, 
my confirmation. 

1994
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,080
Saint Dominic's on 20th Ave. 
I think Bay Ridge Parkway around

1995
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:55,240
there. 
I. 

1996
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,400
Got you. 
Listen, my my aunt and uncle and

1997
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,320
my cousin Chris lived right 
around the corner basically for 

1998
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,720
a long time. 
So and right, right. 

1999
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,920
I used to go been playing the 
the public school. 

2000
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,160
Oh God, what number was that 
with the basketball courts? 

2001
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,720
And the what? 
What was 186? 

2002
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,760
That sounds right. 
There's a Settle junior high 

2003
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,640
school over there on Bay Parkway
I think. 

2004
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,240
There's a candy, there's a candy
school. 

2005
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,560
I haven't been there yet. 
Buried by the candy store. 

2006
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:22,720
Good memories, man. 
A lot of Sundays at my Aunt 

2007
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,440
Angie and Uncle Pat. 
What's going on, man? 

2008
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:29,040
So yeah, first up, I just wanted
to get into the Giants a little 

2009
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,840
bit. 
What do you think the chances 

2010
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:36,040
are they can get maybe 2-2 
defensive guys first? 

2011
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,520
Either Caleb Downs or maybe 
Styles with that first pick. 

2012
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,520
I think there's a hold, hold on,
that's easy. 

2013
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,280
That's the easiest thing you can
ask me here. 

2014
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,400
If they want one of those two 
guys, they can, they're going to

2015
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,480
absolutely have access to one of
those two guys at #5. 

2016
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,920
Now which one? 
I'm not 100% sure if I, I think 

2017
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,120
styles you can justify, even 
though I don't care about this 

2018
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,000
like positional value. 
Just get me a star and I think 

2019
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,360
both will be. 
I could see Styles going before 

2020
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,800
downs. 
I don't know that I would do 

2021
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,520
that, but if the Giants want one
of those two dudes, they're 

2022
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,080
going to be able to get one of 
those two dudes. 

2023
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,240
Any shot at getting both? 
Probably not, right? 

2024
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,840
And I feel like. 
Styles 1st and then Caleb downs 

2025
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,600
maybe if he drops a little. 
Yeah, that's not, that's not 

2026
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,480
implausible. 
Let hold on. 

2027
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:23,200
Let's play it out. 
All right, so one, let me 

2028
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,960
actually play this out with you,
man #1 because I think a week 

2029
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:29,680
ago I would have been like, 
well, a week ago they didn't 

2030
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,200
have the 10th pick, but that 
would have seemed unfathomable. 

2031
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:39,320
Mendoza won, let me say Reese. 
Two, let me say #3 I'm going to 

2032
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,760
go with I'm going to go with 
love to the Cardinals. 

2033
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,920
I'm going to go with love. 
I'm going to go love 4. 

2034
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,480
I'm going to say Bailey to the 
Titans. 

2035
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,000
I'm doing this with nothing in 
front of me. 

2036
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,800
So if I missed something #5 I 
think at that point, let's say 

2037
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:57,720
Sonny Styles, Giants 5. 
Why am I who's got the 6th pick?

2038
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:03,760
I know, why am I forgetting? 
6 commander, 7 Saints, 8 Chiefs 

2039
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,720
9 Who the hell was 60 Browns? 
I think right Browns are 6. 

2040
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,920
Browns go online. 
All right, let's play this out. 

2041
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,840
Browns go online. 
Let's say fanu from Utah. 7 

2042
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:23,320
Commanders go receiver. 
No, you know what I eight Saints

2043
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,160
would go defense. 
I think the Saints would beat 

2044
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,160
you to downs. 
That would be the problem there.

2045
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,080
But then you get a great 
receiver at 10 if you stick at 

2046
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,160
10, you know. 
All right, Charlie, thanks for 

2047
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,640
the call. 
So Jay, why is that happening? 

2048
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:38,600
Jay, can you help me out with 
that? 

2049
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,760
I mean, honestly, I I think we 
were just in a day and age of, 

2050
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:50,840
of poor technology using by 
potentially older members of the

2051
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,760
community. 
Slightly older like I I. 

2052
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,920
Just think stream yards are, you
know, it's a, it's a new fresh 

2053
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,160
format for people. 
I also think when you're driving

2054
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,280
in your car, like I can see 
Charlie's back now. 

2055
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,080
But like, yeah, I think when 
you're driving in your car, I 

2056
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,360
think sometimes that causes some
hiccups in the South. 

2057
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:10,640
That's. 
True. 

2058
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,280
OK, that's true. 
Yeah, very delicately phrased as

2059
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:15,280
well. 
I like the way you didn't. 

2060
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:18,680
You get a very easily could have
said old people don't know how 

2061
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,360
to work this thing but. 
Listen, I don't because it's not

2062
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,480
solely you know, someone in the 
chat said it's not solely a 

2063
01:40:25,480 --> 01:40:27,960
skill issue here. 
You know, I think there's also 

2064
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,840
some some great some higher 
powers at play. 

2065
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:33,040
I got you. 
We'll tighten it up. 

2066
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,280
Let's see so I've got Matt here 
he's trying to return. 

2067
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,120
Let's just make. 
Sure. 

2068
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,040
Yeah, yeah. 
Matt, can you hear us? 

2069
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:40,920
Yeah, I can hear you guys. 
Can you hear me? 

2070
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,440
I got you. 
So Matt, finish up that that 

2071
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:46,120
downhill or that par four with 
the Little Lake there, a New 

2072
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,320
York Country Club. 
Is that one now or is that 10? 

2073
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,040
I believe that that's ten. 
OK, that's 10. 

2074
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,560
Yeah, but like it's like awkward
because people could be sitting 

2075
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,480
there eating lunch watching at 
the T box. 

2076
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,520
I'll tell you a quick story. 
I took my wife there once 

2077
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,960
because I had such a golf bug 
that I said, you know what, I 

2078
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:04,800
got to get her into it. 
It's the only way I could go on 

2079
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,200
Sundays and stuff, which 
ultimately was a mistake. 

2080
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,640
But I get up, we started on the 
back. 

2081
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,960
I probably hit 3 balls and right
in front of about 10 people she 

2082
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:16,520
goes. 
I thought you were good at golf.

2083
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,000
Oh. 
Jesus, are you serious? 

2084
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,120
I gotta get out of here. 
Yeah, this is now we're not 

2085
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:21,400
doing this. 
That's. 

2086
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,880
What are clubs? 
I mean, I went, I'm like, I, I 

2087
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:24,880
thought I had it all figured 
out. 

2088
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,000
I'm like, yeah, now I got it. 
I'll just bring her with me. 

2089
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,560
And now you play like, all the 
time. 

2090
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,360
It's actually a really good, but
that's what Beningo did and it 

2091
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,280
worked for Joe. 
Yeah, I see him all the time. 

2092
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:38,400
He's I've, I played with him 
like twice at the Rivervale. 

2093
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,880
Yeah, I've played with him. 
I played with him the day of 

2094
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:42,720
Evan's wedding. 
I'll never forget it. 

2095
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,320
Are you serious? 
Yeah, he hits a ball. 

2096
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,160
You know, I purposely didn't say
anything to him because I didn't

2097
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:49,520
want to bother him. 
Like, I'm a huge fan. 

2098
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,440
I listen to him every day. 
At the end, I finally said 

2099
01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:53,400
something. 
And then very casually, he hits 

2100
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:54,200
a ball. 
He looks at me, goes. 

2101
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:56,040
I hope Evan knows what he's 
doing, bro. 

2102
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,280
He don't know this girl too 
long. 

2103
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,600
Well, Evan's still married so it
worked out well. 

2104
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,480
And by the way, since then, I 
think Joe's got 3 hole in ones. 

2105
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:08,400
Listen, I saw him play at least 
2. 

2106
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,440
And listen, by no means am I 
critiquing somebody's swing, but

2107
01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:12,960
I have played. 
I haven't played with Joe in a 

2108
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,680
while, but I played with Joe at 
least three times maybe. 

2109
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,000
And you know, if you told me 
back then Joe was going to get 

2110
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,400
multiple aces, I would have been
like, you got some good balances

2111
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:26,760
there, huh, Joe? 
But good for him. 

2112
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:28,760
And he's having. 
No disrespect to Joe, because he

2113
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,400
would always, he would always be
on the air talking about golf. 

2114
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,840
Then that first day I get paired
with him, like, oh, Jesus, guy's

2115
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,160
going to be good. 
He's talking about how much he 

2116
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,840
plays. 
Then I see him, I see him tap a 

2117
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,440
ball about 20 yards on the 
ground. 

2118
01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:41,160
They said, oh, all right, that's
the kind of golfer. 

2119
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:42,640
Yeah, yeah. 
No, I exactly. 

2120
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,400
And that makes you feel better 
about your probably about your 

2121
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,240
swing. 
Yeah, I said, oh geez, I'm going

2122
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,480
to get paired with this guy. 
He's probably a scratch golfer 

2123
01:42:49,480 --> 01:42:51,520
the way Hawks, you know, it's 
always intimidating. 

2124
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,480
You play with a good golfer. 
Absolutely. 

2125
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,520
Well, that's why Matt, I'm like 
you, Matt, but This is why I 

2126
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,760
laid down the foundation. 
I just what I do, I get it all 

2127
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,920
out at the open like, hey, you 
know, hey, you know, obviously 

2128
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:04,960
some people will recognize me 
and if they do and then it's a 

2129
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,360
different conversation. 
But if they don't, you know, and

2130
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,760
I know somebody striping it on 
the rain and I usually play with

2131
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,400
my buddies. 
Like I very rarely go out and 

2132
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,200
play with anybody people I don't
know, like otherwise it's not 

2133
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,760
it's not that fun, you know. 
So but but I will, you know, I 

2134
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,400
will lay the foundation. 
I will come up with the excuses.

2135
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,400
You know, I used to play lefty. 
Now I'm playing right, but I 

2136
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,600
play, but I play quick. 
I'll keep it moving. 

2137
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,680
Let them know before they first 
see the swing. 

2138
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,160
What I always preface, 
absolutely. 

2139
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,440
I always preface with saying, 
yeah, I was a baseball player. 

2140
01:43:34,440 --> 01:43:36,440
The swings a little different. 
It takes me a little, you know, 

2141
01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:38,680
that's all I have to like tell 
them I'm a good athlete. 

2142
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,320
Like I can't have them watch me 
hit that. 

2143
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,360
So yeah, I always have the 
excuses ready. 

2144
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,040
I tell them if I'm, if I'm off, 
I'll pick it up, We'll go quick.

2145
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,760
And yeah, I'm getting 
sidetracked there. 

2146
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,080
I was going to call you and tell
you about my son's travel team 

2147
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,320
win too, but I feel like I'm 
taking up too much of your time 

2148
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:53,200
with them. 
I hear it. 

2149
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:54,200
How old is he? 
How you know? 

2150
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:58,360
I love that stuff. 
So my son is 6 playing on an 8 U

2151
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,680
team. 
So he's playing up Jesus. 

2152
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,200
Yeah, he's he's good. 
You know, he's listen, he's he's

2153
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,200
6. 
You know, he's playing with 

2154
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:06,720
eight-year olds. 
Kids his age are still doing 

2155
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,920
like coach pitch underhand this 
kids playing. 

2156
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,480
Wow. 
Competitive SO comes up last 

2157
01:44:11,480 --> 01:44:16,760
night bases loaded, it was 
freezing out A-22 game and he 

2158
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:21,040
had a walk off walk and team 
mobbed them on the field and I 

2159
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,760
grabbed them aside. 
I said, I said, I said if you 

2160
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:25,720
and it was a very questionable 
pitch. 

2161
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,040
I said if that umpire called out
of strike, you would have walked

2162
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,960
home. 
Oh, let him know. 

2163
01:44:31,480 --> 01:44:35,000
Let him know in. 
A good way let him know I said 

2164
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,880
dude 22 game bases loaded, a 
full count. 

2165
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,840
Like you got it. 
That pitch should be over your 

2166
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:41,960
head. 
If you're not swinging anything 

2167
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,320
close, you're you're chipping at
it. 

2168
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,760
But now was it let's so this is 
your first child or no? 

2169
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,240
This is my second and he plays 
travel my older boy, my I have 

2170
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,880
two boys. 
My older guy is gonna be 9. 

2171
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,760
Listen, I love him to death. 
He's he's a he's a rec player. 

2172
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,440
He's not a travel player and I 
not gonna force him into that 

2173
01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:00,680
you. 
Know I got you, but this this, 

2174
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,200
this is the one that you're you 
got some you got to hope for. 

2175
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,040
Oh, the Don, I got you, you 
know. 

2176
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,040
Even when he was a little kid, I
put him up. 

2177
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:08,600
You know, I love Don Mattingly, 
too. 

2178
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,880
I'm like, no, he's a lefty. 
You're gonna be a lefty. 

2179
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,000
Oh yeah. 
Dude, it's awesome. 

2180
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,800
Wait till you start getting 
getting. 

2181
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,640
Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's 
it's, it's a little bit of 

2182
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,840
everything, but it's awesome. 
And I, well, it's my first. 

2183
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,360
Taste of it now because it's 
been all winter of practices and

2184
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,520
clinics and as a parent, you're 
getting up at 7:00, you're 

2185
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:28,960
getting up at 8:00. 
Oh yeah. 

2186
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,840
So to finally be playing games 
and to like, I'm a coach, I'm on

2187
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,720
the field like it's sick. 
I feel like I'm playing like 

2188
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,160
I'm, I'm more pumped up than the
kids. 

2189
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,560
They got the walk up music. 
I'm like, oh, I'd do anything to

2190
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,160
play right. 
Now I wish I could still play. 

2191
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:45,080
What travel team, by the way? 
Clarkstown stars. 

2192
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,640
OK, yeah, stars. 
So I don't know, maybe we'll 

2193
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:49,960
play you one day. 
We'll have to talk. 

2194
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,920
We, you know, we're a good 
program. 

2195
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,440
I love to talk the conversations
I have at baseball fields. 

2196
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:58,280
You'd be, I mean, maybe you 
wouldn't be surprised, but it's 

2197
01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,280
all the time. 
I love it. 

2198
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:00,720
It's. 
Like, way into it. 

2199
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,360
I'm texting the coaches at 11 at
night like, well, if he pitches,

2200
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,440
you know, And it's very 
strategic with the pitch count. 

2201
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:07,400
My wife. 
'S like too, I know. 

2202
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,360
Yeah, my wife's like you've lost
your mind. 

2203
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,960
She's like they're they're. 
I said yes, yes, I have, because

2204
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,880
I can't do this and lose. 
You don't understand me. 

2205
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,480
I'm not even, you know what, let
other callers call. 

2206
01:46:17,480 --> 01:46:19,400
I don't want. 
I was going to call you and tell

2207
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:20,880
you I've been with you the whole
time. 

2208
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,560
If you've watched this Nick team
all year, you kind of have the 

2209
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,960
sense that maybe they'll win 
around. 

2210
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,360
But you know, this isn't the 
team. 

2211
01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:29,320
If you're a real basketball fan,
you watch them. 

2212
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,560
You know what this team is? 
Yeah. 

2213
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,080
You know, I'm looking for 
evidence here, Matt, to the 

2214
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,240
contrary. 
I have not seen any all year. 

2215
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,320
So a little bit of everything, a
little bit of golf, a little bit

2216
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,920
of Beningo, a little bit of kids
baseball, a little bit of I love

2217
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,800
it, dude. 
Sorry, I sidetracked you, but 

2218
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,720
big fan been, you know, been 
calling you, listening to you 

2219
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,400
for like since I'm in high 
school so that I could call you 

2220
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,840
like this is is big deal for me,
so I appreciate. 

2221
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:53,920
It me too, man. 
Thank you dude. 

2222
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:55,480
I appreciate it buddy. 
Thank you very much man. 

2223
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,000
Awesome man. 
It's good stuff. 

2224
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,120
Hey, listen. 
That was awesome, man. 

2225
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,000
Straight up, straight up little 
podcast interview right there. 

2226
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,920
Why not? 
No that that Joe story was 

2227
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,960
hilarious. 
I enjoyed that. 

2228
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,360
You going to walk home? 
If that would have been called 

2229
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:11,800
the OH. 
My God, that was funny. 

2230
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,480
And he was kidding around, but I
know what he means. 

2231
01:47:13,480 --> 01:47:14,960
Swing the bat, you know, swing 
the bat. 

2232
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:17,080
All right, I think I'm going to 
start wrapping up here, man. 

2233
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:18,800
We got Mets and the Yanks back 
to. 

2234
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,240
Work. 
We got one caller. 

2235
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,720
Is that more with you? 
All right, you know what? 

2236
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,200
Pop him up. 
I'm going to end it up after 

2237
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:24,960
this year. 
Cool. 

2238
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:26,520
Who do we have? 
Where is he at? 

2239
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,040
Go ahead. 
We've got Mike P from New York. 

2240
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,560
Mike P New York City. 
What's going on? 

2241
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,320
Mikey, How are you? 
What's going on, BT? 

2242
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,640
What up Mike? 
I got a question with the 

2243
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,760
Knicks. 
Like watching the game last 

2244
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:47,240
night was so frustrating because
the office just fluctuates in a 

2245
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:52,440
way where it's not consistent. 
And like, I think it's all 

2246
01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:54,720
because of coaching. 
I think this needs team needs a 

2247
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,000
coach that's an offensive minded
coach. 

2248
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,320
Well, Mike Brown is. 
No, he is Mike. 

2249
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,800
You know that Mike. 
That's Mike Brown's background. 

2250
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:06,280
He's an offensive coach. 
But at times he doesn't use cat 

2251
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:11,720
properly in the game and it 
breaks me so much because cat 

2252
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,600
isn't the ultimate difference 
maker. 

2253
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:18,360
Honestly on the team, if he 
playing like a dog, they're 

2254
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,440
going to win basically. 
I don't know. 

2255
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,800
Well, I don't know what you 
think, Mike, hold on a second, 

2256
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:25,960
Mike. 
Mike, don't you think it goes 

2257
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,640
down to and I don't know the 
answer. 

2258
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,920
We can only, you know, guess 
here, but you know, it's not all

2259
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,120
Mike Brown. 
I do think that cat and and I 

2260
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,280
was really hard on him this 
year, but I, I do think the last

2261
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,160
20 or 30 games, like he really 
tried to kind of fit into this 

2262
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,080
new role. 
So I don't want to just keep 

2263
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,920
hammering the guy incessantly 
and and be unfair about this. 

2264
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,760
But you know, you got it. 
You got to drop some of that 

2265
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:50,440
critique at his doorstep as 
well. 

2266
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,400
No, you got to call for the Rock
Man. 

2267
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:53,880
Let's go. 
Go get the ball. 

2268
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,840
Get the ball like this is dog 
time. 

2269
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,440
Playoffs is straight dog time 
like I'm. 

2270
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,280
Anthony. 
Mason and Charles Oakley and I 

2271
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,000
get it. 
Those guys, they were. 

2272
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,200
Derry. 
Judson my my favorite dude. 

2273
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,280
I met him in person like 10 
years ago. 

2274
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:12,600
Oh. 
Larry. 

2275
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,720
Yeah, Larry, he's a cool dude. 
Yeah, he's cool. 

2276
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:16,680
He's cool. 
He's. 

2277
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:21,120
Cool, How about the and the 
Yankees tonight? 

2278
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,280
I always said, Yankee fan, the 
season doesn't begin until you 

2279
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:29,120
face one of your rivals. 
Yeah, yeah, but you got to admit

2280
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:30,680
here, Mike, I mean, Yankees, Red
Sox. 

2281
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,760
I mean, it's April, whatever. 
I don't even know what the day 

2282
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,040
like. 
Yankees, Red Sox. 

2283
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:37,360
Let's be honest. 
I mean, it has no juice right 

2284
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:38,280
now. 
None. 

2285
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,520
But those games, usually, even 
if the Sox are playing bad, I 

2286
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,560
think they'll still be up to 
play the game. 

2287
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,920
I do too. 
But honestly, I think Schittler,

2288
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:50,920
Schittler is going to destroy 
them tonight. 

2289
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,800
I think heels going tonight, I 
think, I think heels tonight, 

2290
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,320
yeah, McLean for the Mets, heel 
for the Yanks, but Cams 

2291
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:01,920
definitely pitching in the 
series, yeah. 

2292
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,240
That's I know you heard about 
the death threats. 

2293
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,120
And. 
I just think he's going to go 

2294
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:11,480
out there and just shred them 
whenever he pitches against the 

2295
01:50:11,480 --> 01:50:12,920
stock. 
He's a beast deal. 

2296
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,120
He's a beast man. 
He's the real deal. 

2297
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:15,920
Mike, you. 
Mike. 

2298
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,560
Thank you for the call. 
Cam Schlitter is the absolute 

2299
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:19,880
real deal. 
Oh, my God. 

2300
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,720
All right there, J Rod. 
Anything that we have to be 

2301
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:25,680
aware of here, buddy. 
What do we need to know? 

2302
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:26,520
What's going on? 
Shut. 

2303
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,080
Up. 
No, I mean, I think we're pretty

2304
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:31,240
good. 
Great show. 

2305
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:33,800
We've got David here. 
Just real quick, what time is 

2306
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,160
that draft show you're doing 
with Jets Collective? 

2307
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,080
It is at 8. 
You know the good. 

2308
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:39,600
It's a good quote. 
Once you get that back up there,

2309
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,360
Jay, if you can, that little 
splash thing there. 

2310
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:42,760
It's 8:00 PM tonight. 
Thank you. 

2311
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,440
It is 8:00 PM tonight. 
It's called The Jets Collective.

2312
01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:49,120
It's myself and Rich and Jake 
Asman, and it's once a week. 

2313
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,960
Eventually we'll crank it up to 
twice a week during the season, 

2314
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,320
but we'll do a mock draft 
tonight. 

2315
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,320
One through 16 will alternate 
pics, will obviously react to 

2316
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:02,040
Muji's press conference and it's
an hour very interactive with 

2317
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,640
the the text and all the Super 
chats and all that stuff. 

2318
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,960
So go check it out, like and 
subscribe and hop in there. 

2319
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,240
Obviously do the same for this 
channel, like and subscribe it. 

2320
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:15,080
But tonight from 8:00 to 9:00. 
Previous weeks we've been 7 to 

2321
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,200
8, but you know, I know Jake is 
going to Pittsburgh. 

2322
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,640
He's doing a draft over at 
Mcfadden's if you guys want to 

2323
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,120
check that out. 
I know he's got stuff on on his 

2324
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,600
on the social, on the social 
media stuff if you guys want to 

2325
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,000
get into into the draft and hang
out with Jake and then Rich Avi.

2326
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,080
So we had to kind of work it 
around all three of our 

2327
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,280
schedules. 
So tonight worked out and 8:00 

2328
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,000
was better than 7. 
So usually it's 7:00 tonight at 

2329
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,800
8:00. 
So with that being said, again, 

2330
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:43,440
thanks to our sponsors, Sullivan
Propane and Premio Sausage, let 

2331
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:45,560
us call it a day. 
Look at that boom, boom. 

2332
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,320
Let us call it a day. 
Let us get out. 

2333
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,840
Who knows, maybe we get an NFL 
trade today at some point. 

2334
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,560
Some more rumblings, I'm sure. 
Let's see if the Mets seas could

2335
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,120
break that 11 game skid. 
Let's see what the Yankees have 

2336
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,880
in store for the Red Sox. 
And have an awesome, awesome 

2337
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:03,960
rest of your day, J Ron. 
I'll catch you later on. 

2338
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,800
Everybody else out there. 
Again, we'll hit 20,000 Subs 

2339
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,080
today, which is going to be a 
lot of fun and certainly 

2340
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,880
meaningful for me. 
So like it, sub it, traction 

2341
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,880
comments, all that stuff. 
It works. 

2342
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,880
The more we could do. 
Have a great rest of your day, 

2343
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,080
catch you guys later. 
Peace.