Good, not good, not good, not good last night.
What's going on, everybody? BT Unleashed with you here.
Not good. So I don't understand how the
Knicks can play 82 regular season games and then obviously
2 here in the playoffs and still not know how they want to play
in the fourth quarter and what they want to do.
Last night was last night was really, really distressing in
terms of big picture stuff. Now, do I think the Knicks are
still going to win the series? I do.
I think they've got more talent than the Hawks, even though the
Hawks are going to be scrappy and now you have to go to
Atlanta and you really don't know.
You just don't know. You really don't know which
profile this you know what what happens here.
The next twist of the turn I I don't know for sure, but I'm
still pretty confident the Knicks going to win.
It's not about that. But last night to me was was
another, you know, reminder and another illumination as to the
things that I have been worried about all year with this Knicks
team. Just a brutal loss, a brutal
breakdown, whether it's not having the timeouts, whether
it's the shot distribution, whether it's missing free
throws, whether it's choking away a 12 point fourth quarter
lead to start. Like I, you know, I don't, I
don't, I don't like it. Just not a championship team is
not supposed to look that way. So with that being said, I'm
sure this will be a very pleasant show.
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Let me give you a quick pop on what's going on tonight episode
#5 of The Jets Collective. We're going to do our mock
draft. I can't wait for this.
So myself and Rich and of course Jake Aspen, Rick Simini and we
will mock draft one through 16. Mooji speaks today.
Well, obviously I don't know if he's going to really say much,
but I mean, this is this is tune up time and it's NFL draft week.
There's so much going on. But we obviously begin and go a
little bit more thoroughly into these New York Knicks.
Now, first of all, here we'll get the calls lined up.
Lot of Nick energy will do a little baseball later on as
well. But as I said, mostly a Nick
day. Can somebody, I mean, listen, I
love, I loved it when the end, when NBC had the NBA back in the
day, I loved it. Like the music used to get me so
fired up. I remember like, you know, like
just like it was, it was an energy because the Knicks were
involved in all that stuff in the 90s that like you're really
just you had to live through it to really, you know, know what
I'm talking about. You know the Ewing and the Bulls
and the Ewings and the Knick and and and the Knicks and the
Pacers and you know it's a great it's a great it's a great time
capsule, right. But if you're going to do the
games, you have to get certain things right.
I mean poor no eagle. I'm God, does he sound like his
dad or what? It is absolutely amazing, like
how much he sounds like his pops.
He's good, but poor no was like you don't have to think the
Knicks going to burn a time out. They're going to take their last
time out here. Like you can't have the score
bug wrong. Absolutely ridiculous.
And the confusion that was going on after the game was absolutely
acceptable on the network level. This is a playoff game.
And this is not like the minor leagues testing the ABS system.
This is Round 1 Madison Square Garden, you know, 5 1/2 seconds
to go in the game, miss free throw.
And Noah Eagle, who is already a star and going to wind up being
a superstar like his pops, doesn't even know.
And it's not his fault how many timeouts there are in a playoff
game. So that's the first thing that
bothers you #1 #2 now the, I think the easiest thing all
year, really. And there's been some peaks and
valleys. If you think about like the
Knick discussions this year, most of it has been all right.
Let's see what they become when it's what it's playoff time like
it was really like. There comes a point, especially
in the NBA regular season when you're when you're good for a
couple of years, right, and you're kind of championship
relevant as the Knicks have been for a couple of years now.
It's really hard to manufacture unless it's just contrived.
Then you want to scream and yell and click away for the sake of
yelling and clicking away. It's really hard to to maintain,
you know, real true. I don't want to say spirit
because Nick fans have great spirit.
But like the evaluation of this Knicks season, I think was a
little bit different than last year and certainly different
than the year before. It was always about, all right,
we're going to grade this Knicks team out, we're going to grade
out the head coach, we're going to grade out the roster when we
get to this point in the season and we'll see where they're at
because they've already gone pretty far.
You fire Tom Thibodeau, you bring in a new coach who's never
won a championship, but it's respected 2 time coach of the
year. So let's we almost we he almost
can't help but push this thing forward.
And I'm talking about early in the season, you know, and then
they won the cup and there was some energy there, whatever.
And then there were these swoons and they just played up and down
and, you know, some confusion over roles really about Coral
Anthony Towns. But let and I told you this all
year, right? And again, don't misinterpret
what I'm saying. The Knicks will win this series.
I'm not worried about this series, right, Although I am
alarmed with the way it went down last night.
I'm talking big picture. And to play all these regular
season games and still not know how you want to attack crunch
time is just utterly inexcusable.
It's unacceptable. Like, why is the Knicks still
floundering away not knowing how they want to play?
How does Jaylen Brunson take? Jaylen Brunson's got to take
some heat. How does Jaylen Brunson take 26
shots and Karl Anthony Towns take 12?
Now, the easiest punching bags for the Knicks this year.
It's been probably cat one because he's been here longer.
And then obviously, Mike Brown or, you know, for some, if you
want to flip that order, whatever.
But those are the 2 main targets, the head coach and the
second store player, you know. And this year you, you felt the
creep in a little bit. And I thought it was justified
where there's just too much ball dominance from Jalen Brunson,
too much standing around, too much pound in the ball, too much
hero ball, too many fall away threes, too many settles like
you just you have to know how to play by now.
Does anybody think that, you know, the Celtics, they have a
12 point lead in a playoff game that they're not going to know
how they want to attack that final quarter?
Does anybody think that that's going to happen?
And even though the Pistons lost to the Magic, I'm pretty in in
game one over the weekend. I'm pretty sure the Pistons have
a pretty clear path. They know how they're going to
play. Like the Knicks are still trying
to figure this out. And I want to know why.
Like, I want to know why. Jalen, we love Jalen Brunson.
You got to stop chucking. Like Jalen Brunson is a gunner.
And it's like when it works, it's a thing of beauty.
When it does not, you open yourself up to criticism.
And the other thing too, like this is something else I don't
understand. So you last night right now, it
wasn't for a long time, but I think that this needs to be
stressed. At one point during the game you
had it was a three or a 4 minute span.
You had Alvarado Clarkson, Bridges, OG and Mitchell
Robinson on the court together. All right, this is game two of
the NBA playoffs and I understand that you, I guess
that you still trying to figure things out, but those five guys
that were on the court, none of them like that that group, those
five guys played a grand total of 0 regular season minutes
together this entire season 0. Like why are we experimenting in
the playoffs here? Alvarado, Clarkson, Bridges, OG
and Mitch Robinson and it wasn't a long 7 or 8 minute sequence.
I'm not saying it ruined the game, but it's just odd, like
these little things that really prevent you and have certainly
prevented me from having great confidence that the Knicks would
win a championship this year. These are the little points of
inflection where I'm like, yeah, I just.
I don't, you know, I don't, I don't see it.
Think about again the points of criticism this year #1 some of
the things the head coach did OK last night.
I just pointed one out, whether it's, whether it's calling the
time out with two minutes and 43 seconds to go because they
didn't like what he saw. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brunson has a
foot basically in the paint and he's got a match up advantage.
He's basically going to the rim. No one's really, no, no one's
near him. And he calls the time out all
right. Then you then you burn the other
time out with 10 seconds to go. So that, that's coaching stuff,
right? I talked about the, the, the
just, it's not, it's not equitable enough.
Like Karl Anthony Towns, as much as he's confounded me at times
since he came here, he is a hell of a talented basketball player.
And for him to take 12 shots, two in the final, two in the
final 12 minutes when he was bowling out in the third quarter
makes no sense. And that's on the head coach and
that's on the star player. Like I've been saying for a
while, you know, it it all works in concert.
Like the head coach has to recognize match up, you know,
advantages and get the ball to cat Bronson's got to see that
get the ball to Cat Cat. The onus has to be on him to to
be demonstrative and demand the basketball.
So there's a lot of things at play here.
And even after the game, Karl Anthony Towns and I respect
this, but I don't I don't know how he believes this.
I think he's just trying to play the good, you know, like good
cop, good soldier. He's like, you know, listen,
it's fine within the flow of the game.
It, it, it just, he didn't have an issue.
And again, I, I appreciate him not starting trouble.
That's the last thing you want to do is start, you know, coming
apart at the seams here as a team.
But it just can't look that way. Not at home, not when you're up
by 12 points going into the fourth quarter, not when you're
getting ready to take a 2O lead, not when you've got a guy in cat
who's playing so well in the third quarter.
And then you look at the last shot of the game right now.
It's subtle. It's subtle, but if you look at
the hesitation now, Bridges had two choices.
Get to the rim, which we know he doesn't like doing, or pull up
for a baseline jump shot that hits the front rim and misses at
the buzzer. And we know what he opted for.
If you really watch that, and I watched it 10 times to make sure
I'm not being unfair, there was no question a window where he
could have jumped through. And if he was more aggressive
and more assertive #1 gotten a better shot #2 gotten fouled or
#3 maybe get a layup. I mean, really, that ball moved
up the court quickly. I know there weren't 12 seconds.
I get that. But it it, there was just a lot
wrong. Like, the aesthetics last night
were off. They were off.
And this is against the Atlanta Hawks, who had no chance to win
a championship this year. What happens when it's the
Celtics or the Pistons or the Thunder or Denver if you get to
the NBA Finals? Like this is the problem with
the Knicks. And this has been my fear about
the Knicks all season long, which is why I've told you and
many of you have resented this, but I got to keep it real.
I've I've never once looked at this team and said, man, they,
they look, they look like a championship team.
I'm hopeful, I'm rooting. I know they're good, but that
next level's a big jump. It is a big jump.
And last night was a very painful reminder that the Knicks
have a lot of issues. They just really do, man.
I mean, J Rod was text. I was so annoyed I didn't even
text J Rod back. No, I mean I had to text you
after that just going what was that dude?
I mean, I just what I hated, and I mean, obviously you already
kind of went went in on this with like just the Bronson just
overshooting. But like, and I think he's
obviously at fault for it, but I fault some of the Knicks players
as well. I felt like there were times
where Bridges looked like he was playing hot potato with Jalen
Bronson, where it's like Jalen Bronson, he'd give the ball to
Bridges and then Bridges right back, right back, right back.
Just you go here you go, you figure it out for us, you figure
it out for us. And it's like that can't happen.
Cat can't have a monster third quarter.
Like, and I don't understand, I tweet.
I only, I only dropped one tweet last night.
It was in the first quarter. Nick's passing was sublime.
Like there was one sequence where Brunson threw a behind the
back pass to cat head of the circle and then it kind of
whipped the round corner. Boom.
I'm like, my God, that was gorgeous.
That was that was so In Sync. That was perfect.
And then as you get in crunch time, like they're still trying
to figure things out. This is not, you know, November
20th, game seven or eight of the season, 82 game, regular season
slate, playoff game #2 Cat was here a year ago, he was with
Brunson. Bridges was here, OG was here,
Hart was here. Like, this is not a new team
that you threw together, you know, like St.
John's and all these other teams in the NIL in the, in the portal
era and the NIL. By the way, did you see what St.
John's did to your boy at Syracuse?
Donnie Freeman. Freeman notched them.
You see that? Yeah, but.
Honestly now, at this point, now that I'm with you, it kind of
works out. Kind of works out either way.
Yeah, yeah, that was a big one. They gave him a lot of money so
and then they got another. They got some 7 foot European.
I don't even I mean I, I, I, I don't know how I'm going to say
all these names. There's like suddenly 5 new guys
in well, I think it's 4, but these names are going to be
brutal. I mean Mink and I may, we may as
well be in Italy in the Euro league or something cold.
And so I it's not even, it's apparently an American roster.
But no, they, they crushed it yesterday with Freeman.
They did some other stuff. But I don't know, man.
I, I just, I look at that ball movement and then I see the
complete antithesis when it's time to get it going.
I don't understand that. I it bothers me.
It's a problem. And see if you think about this,
right? So way before J Rod's time,
right? Yeah, We get the calls up here,
get those Knicks calls going, bro.
What went when when, when Michael Jordan burst on the
scene, right? And I'm talking about like
before Scotty came there and there was like, he played with
basically a bunch of steps, all right?
And they played the Celtics, Byrd, Mikhail, Dennis Johnson,
you know, Robert Parish, Danny Ainge, all those all those
champion Celtics, one of the best teams of all time, right?
Casey Jones, the head coach and Michael Jordan scored 60 plus
points in a playoff game. And all he did was shoot and he
basically didn't miss. But like the reason he did that,
it was literally he was the best player in the world even at that
point, but there was there was nobody to pass to.
Like I could understand if there was such a discrepancy from the
Knicks best player to their second best player.
And I love Jalen Brunson and we all love Jalen Brunson, we do.
But I don't understand why he has not yet figured this out.
It's just two ball dominant. You're not going to win this
way. Allen Iverson didn't win a
championship trying to do this. And this is not, you know,
trying to do some hit piece on Jaylen Brunson.
He is a great nick. And really, if this keeps up,
Jaylen Brunson is going to have his number retired at some
point. I mean, not not that I'm here to
debate that right now, but like Jaylen Brunson's going to go
down as one of the old time New York Knicks.
You know, really. Now, obviously if you ever
punctuate that with the championship, now you're on the
same line with a Clyde Frazier and a Willis Reed and an Earl
Monroe that second the championship because Pearl
wasn't there for the first one. Patrick never won.
But you know, by most accounts the greatest player in the
history of the franchise just based on the stats and the
constant, you know, winning at a high level without the
championship and elevating a product that probably didn't
really have much business going as far as they went most times.
And Oh, yeah, by the way, you know, running into Michael time
after time after time. But like, Jana Brunson's on that
path, but he's got to augment the way he plays.
He just gets into hero mode. And it's a disservice to the
team if there were a bunch of steps around him.
Hey, you got to get 30 shots. You got to go hunt and shot.
Go do what you got to do. But you're not, you're not,
you're just not that guy. You're not.
You're cut below it. And the second-half of the
season, we've seen Jalen Brunson assist total go up.
We've noticed that because we've seen more pick and roll with
cat. This is all stuff that we've
talked about on the show. But it's like when when it's
time for you know what, what it's time for the, for the game
to be truly defined. It's like his default, his reset
button is to go back to to what he's done too often.
And it's just, it's not going to work.
It might work against the Hawks. It might.
Then again, it might not. It might work against the Hawks,
but it's not going to work the way we wanted to work for the
Knicks. And that's a championship.
So, you know, I mean, you, you've got to be very turned off
by the performance last night because there were so many
different breakdowns at the highest level.
There were coaching malfunctions.
They were star player malfunctions.
There were missed free throws. There were missed defensive
assignments. And really, I mean it.
It would have been worse if McCollum didn't bail, who was
great, didn't bail them out with those two missed free throws.
And here's something else, Jake, Get me up on the full screen,
please, here and we'll get to the calls in a minute.
Here's something else I can't stand.
I can't take it anymore. I don't even actively look for
it. It finds me.
You just jump on social media for a second after the game and
you got all these lunatics outside the garden.
I don't even they're not even Knick fans.
They are young, desperate, you know, social media, whatever.
Like posing as Knick fans. I mean after the game, one win,
like what they're chanting. It's it's just asinine.
It's such a poor reflexive. I can't take it.
Like we've seen this. We saw this a couple of years
ago when the Knicks beat the Celtics in the regular season
and then it was like a trend. And then obviously anything with
the Knick, you know, Knicks for clicks.
You guys have heard that, You know, the Knicks have a great
fan base and incredibly intelligent fan base, right?
A deep fan base that you know, has a national imprint, not like
the Lakers or or even the Celtics, but absolutely Knick
fans. Like you go to a Knick game, a
road game, whether it's in Atlanta, they always take over
Atlanta, down in Philly, you know, even at Staples Center
against the Lakers, Knick fans are everywhere.
So the Knick fans are phenomenal, but the people like
the knuckleheads outside of the Garden after a win, after a
loss, I it's just, it's it's pathetic.
It just drives me insane. Like, I don't, those are not
Nick fans. Like I just have to get that off
my chest. I don't know what that is.
I don't know who they are. I don't know what that is
supposed to do. And and it's it's just
ridiculously over the top and it's just it it drives me nuts.
It it really does. It does.
So with that being said, all right, Jay, we ready to roll
here with some calls, get things pumped.
Up Yes, Sir. We've got Andrew from the Upper
East Side calling in about some Nicks.
OK, thank you, brother. Andrew's up first on the Upper
East Side, as Jay Rod said. BT at least Andrew, what's going
on? BT I'm back how we doing?
Good, good. I'm frustrated after last night.
Bad one, yeah. That was a rough one.
Yep, I'm concerned with the lack of size for the guards, for the
Knicks. Yep.
Not against Atlanta, but just generally speaking, you know,
Brunson is small, McBride is small, Clarkson is not.
Clarkson's bigger, but he, let's face it, he's not 66.
So I have concerns there because Atlanta's going to expose
Brunson defensively and they did it all last night.
And I read a stat. I don't know if you saw this,
but McCollum when guarded by Brunson in this series is 9 for
12 and has 22 points. I didn't see that stat.
Doesn't surprise me, but I did not see that stat.
He is a killer and he's always been great.
He's and he's such a classy player too.
He's like, I'm not here to be the villain.
I'm, you know, I got a wife and two kids.
I'm a good guy. I'm here to play basketball.
You know, that's the other thing too.
Like it's got to always be like, there's so much.
I'll let you finish up, Andrew, but there's always so much other
stupid noise with the Knicks, like the villain, the the
lunatics outside with the clicks and the social.
Can't we just have a playoff game and just focus on the game?
There's so many other ancillary things that drive me insane,
Andrew, Really. No, I don't.
I don't disagree. I think the the fans watching a
game and outside the garden is ridiculous.
I think everyone should be at home watching a game.
You know, I I completely agree. There's a lot of noise.
Is is a good word Like Yeah. That's it.
That fits. I'm with you.
Right. I didn't expect this to be a
sweep, obviously, because you know, you have to respect the
opponent, but I think you have to be more concerned now.
You know, I think you thought you'd be up two O.
It's 11 and a series always starts when the road team wins.
Yep, Yep, for sure. But my.
My concern is just the lack of size in the backcourt against
the guy like McCollum, who's just bigger, and I don't know
how the Knicks handle this. I guess you're putting bridges
around Anobi now on McCollum, and then you're putting the
other one on Johnson. Who's 6?
Who's 67, by the way? And where do you go from there?
And the fact that Towns didn't show up in the, you know, at the
end, he didn't have a field goal attempt in the last four minutes
of the game. Yeah, but do you blame him when
you say Towns didn't show up? Yeah, I don't put that on towns.
I really don't. Well, I think he needs to get
more involved, right? Whether that's Brunson getting
him involved or Mike Brown drawing up a play for him.
The coach's job there, Andrew. No, I'm not disagreeing, but I'd
I'd like to see Towns go up there on his own, set a screen
for Brunson and say hey give me the damn ball 4 minutes to go
instead of having Mike Brown on the sideline with a minute to go
yelling at him to. Go set the pick right.
That's my concern is like he checks out too much.
Yeah, yeah, I, I brought that. It's a good call, Andrew.
Thank you very much, buddy. Good stuff there.
Thanks for checking in. Appreciate that.
Yeah, I mean, listen, the final two minutes and 56 seconds of
the game, one person took a shot and that's Jaylen Brunson.
And that's just unacceptable. Like nowhere else is that going
to happen. Are you telling me that with two
minutes and 56 seconds to go that either Tatum or Jaylen
Brown are going to take literally every single shot?
Even SGA or Jokic is not going to take every single shot.
Even, you know, even a Kobe or Shaq is not taking every single
shot. It's just the ball is always in
his hands and it just, it sticks too much.
It really does. And you know, I'm very curious.
You know, this will be, we'll unpack this whenever the
season's over. And I think the Knicks will be
playing for a while because I do think the Knicks will win the
series. But like, that's the bigger
macro issue downstream that I'm not even going to get into now.
But I mean, at some point there's going to be a real
conference. I'm I'm like, I'm at least
sticking my toe in the water now.
There's going to be a real conversation to be had because
it's already kind of been broached to an extent.
Can you win a championship when Jaylen Brunson is your best
player? And I understand that the merits
of both side like I, I believe as long as you have enough of
the other pieces. I personally, I've, I always
believed that you could, you know, going back when he first
got here. And but the more I watch and the
more I see how the league is reacting to him and some of
these tendencies that aren't getting cleaned up late in
games, bowl dominance, the monopolization of the
basketball. I'm I'm less I'm less entrenched
in that belief like that that like there was a point where I
had no doubt in my mind that the Knicks, if they surrounded him
with the right players, unlike what they did for Patrick Ewing,
where I'm like, there is no doubt that this guy can lead the
Knicks to their first championship since 1973.
And I love Jaylen, we all love Jaylen Brunson, but these are
two separate thoughts. Is he a hell of a nick?
Yes. Is he a terrific player?
Yes. Does he play with great purpose
and pride and passion? Yes.
I mean, is he going to have his jersey retired someday?
Yes. Can you win a championship if he
doesn't augment his game or can you win a championship given his
physical inherent limitations, explosion and size?
And that's where more and more and more I'm starting to
unfortunately gravitate toward the no side of the equation.
What do we have Next up there, Jay?
What do? You got we've got Omar from Omar
from the Bronx. OK, let's head up to the Bronx.
Omar is is in the house. Big O what's?
Happening. Let me hold on real quick.
All right, there we go. We're good.
OK, what up? Hey, what's up, guys?
Can you hear me? Yep, got your brother.
What's going on? Yeah.
So just a couple of thoughts in regards to yesterday's game.
I think first and foremost, I think this is becoming the DNA
of this team. Unfortunately for the Knicks,
over the past couple postseason runs, the fourth quarter has
become this time where they'll just have these moments where
they have a team on the ropes and they just breathe life
incident. And it's been a consistent
trend, whether it be in that Sixer Series A few years ago, I
think it was Game 5 or maxi hit like the half court shot.
We had them down and out and we just breathe life incident.
It happened last year, obviously with the Pacers game one, which
changed the entire trajectory of that series.
We all kind of do. It was over after that, even if
we don't want to admit it. And it's happening again now,
but I don't think it's going to impact this series because we're
just going to out talent the Hawks.
You think we'll end up winning the next couple games, kind of
wrap it up in 5. But it's a cause for concern,
for serious concern when we play a team like the Celtics, when we
play a team like Detroit or whoever the case may be again,
this series, not so much because we have more talent, we have
closers. We're going to out talent the
Hawks. This has become, as much as we
don't want to admit it, the DNA of the Jalen Brunson kind of era
or the Jalen Brunson core in the playoffs where we just have a
team down and out and we can't put them away.
I ask you a question. Why do you think that is?
What what's your reasoning? I've got my theory, but I want
to hear yours. Why does that happen?
Because that is a consistent theme, you know?
Well, there's 2 themes. Knicks have started slow off in
the in the first quarter getting cleaned up.
Hold on, wait, let's let me ask you a question.
Why do you think can we we we still have Omar there?
He muted. It is.
It consistent, Yeah, we'll take care of that.
Just let me know what's going. On all right, will do.
If you have to drop them, what or is he?
Are you here? Oh, all right.
We'll drop them. We'll get the next call up.
It's all good. Appreciate.
I don't know what happened there, Omar.
Sorry about that. The the problem why this happens
with the New York Knicks as regularly as it does is because
they've got 40% of their defenders in the starting court,
in the starting lineup are horrendous.
I mean, so when you get a big lead and your first line of
defense, Omar, that I'm answering Omar's question is
that you know, you, you've got basically a fire hydrant in
Jalen Brunson, who is short and doesn't have great lateral burst
and guys could shoot over them. Easy to pick because he's not
physic physically strong enough to to really go through picks
and fight through them. He plays hard.
He's got a great IQ, he's a great offensive score and he's a
great player on on a lot of levels here.
But the his weaknesses are so exploitable and I don't know how
you work around that. It's, it's almost like, I don't
know, maybe this is unfair and maybe this isn't a great
analogy. It's almost like having a, a, a
bad bullpen in baseball, right? Like you could have so many
things that that you could do. You know, you have a good
lineup, you have good starting pitching, but then you get
toward the end of the game where it's time to get those final
three higher leverage outs. And, you know, unless you got a
MO or somebody like that, you know, it's, it's going to be a
little bit dicey. And, you know, I, I think that
again, I'm not saying it's a perfect comparison.
I don't know how transferable it is.
But when you look at and it's not just Jalen Brunson, don't
get me wrong, but he's the first line of defense.
He is the lead guard, you know, and when you could get by him
and you could get through him and now you get to that next
level of defense. Now you got Cat who's a little
slow to rotate, blah, blah, blah.
It's been a theme for the Knicks, you know, since the Cat
and Brunson were paired up, you know, and we knew this about
Jalen Brunson early, but we were so enamored and rightfully so
with with his great offensive prowess that that we kind of
ignored it because he's so clutch and he's a killer and
he's 25 the game and he's low maintenance and he's a great
teammate. He's a great guy and he's a
great ambassador for the Knicks. But his deficiencies will
continue to show up. Now, that is the unfortunate
reality of the Knicks. You know, it really is at
Kendock. Kendock, what's going on the
bench line. It was absolute garbage.
Yeah, Deuce and Shaman have been horrendously mediocre.
I still have faith in both of those guys.
So let's let's put it this way. If now Clarkson's not a good
defender, but he could fill it up.
Some of the other guys that they use Alvarado, I still love him
as a spark plug. Mitch was phenomenal, especially
in the first half of the game. But if the Knicks don't get much
more consistent play from certainly from Deuce and even
Chabot, who I've always been a fan of it, it's going to really
complicate their their road to a championship.
It just is, you know, you every every great team, you got to
have, you know, three guys coming off the bench minimally
that are, you know, diverse. You got to have a shooter, you
got to have a couple defenders. You have to have a couple of
high IQ guys. You want to have a motor guy
like Alvarado and Deuce is a motor guy as well that can just
inject a little pace into the game when things aren't really
going the way you want them to go.
Like, I think that they've got enough of the components on the
bench, provided the guys that are starting do their job.
And think about this, the final two minutes and 50 seconds,
there was one person who took a shot.
That's a lot of possessions. That's just unacceptable.
And the Bucks got to stop. It's not just, well, Mike Brown
didn't call the play for Cat or, oh, Cat wasn't, you know,
demanding the ball enough. No, you've got to look at Jaylen
Brunson as well. Otherwise, you're missing the
mark. Like, to me, the to me, the most
culpable player last night was Jaylen Brunson.
They just was MO Cage. What up, MO?
All right. The Knicks are good when they
play bad teams and they lose when they play good teams.
Maybe we can get a championship game against bad teams only.
I mean, isn't that kind of the theme this year?
You don't think about this like when.
Yeah, I mean, that is that's accurate.
If you watch the Knicks all regular season and don't just
parachute into the NBA playoffs, you've understood that this has
been a problem with the Knicks all year.
You know, the bad teams, they whack the good teams, they
generally don't perform great. And then for some reason they
play well against Denver, you know, But generally speaking,
that has been a problem for the Knicks this year for sure, you
know, even last year. But they were able to to rectify
that in the playoffs with some of the matchups.
So, I mean, the Pistons squashed him this year.
And The funny thing is I don't even want to put the cart before
the horse. But you think about, you know,
potential second round matchups, right?
And as I watch things begin to unfold in the Eastern
Conference, like, I mean, I you know, I I don't love like
everybody's worried about the Pistons and the Celtics.
I don't know if I from it. I'm talking about any team now,
not just the Knicks. The Magic are a very dangerous
team. They've had a lot of injuries.
They got a lot of young talent That's not afraid, like the
Orlando Magic or not. That's going to be a long series
out there. That'd be a tough one.
Let me see here at Bob Tiss disgusting game saw it coming.
I didn't see that guy. I'll be lying to you.
I didn't necessarily see that coming in the manner in which it
came at the time in which it came.
You know, like if you would have told me the Knicks would have
lost, you know, 11394 like they just didn't have it all right.
The Hulk shot 46% from three Knicks were off whatever.
I would almost find that more acceptable and and
understandable than the way they lost last night.
You're at home, you're up 12. What the Hell's going on?
So it covered. How can Brunson just dribble
down the clock to 8 seconds and take a low percentage shot and
miss? I mean, let's face it, even with
the bounce that they got on the Brunson 3 before the foul shots,
you got a little lucky with that.
I mean, there's just a lot wrong aesthetically with last night.
And you know, it's guys the I have talked about this, right,
and I have used this for there are a lot of different
situations. I know I sometimes get
repetitive with this, but boy, it fits.
And I'm going to say it again. I didn't say it last week, so I
don't think I'm overdoing it right now.
You know, I think I said it the week before, J Rod, if I did say
it last week, correct me, but I'm sure I didn't.
All right, we all play golf, right?
Or many of us do, and there we all have a club in our bag that
we just try to avoid. It's like we justify, even
though it calls for the shot. We almost justify going for a
different club, right? And an example, for whatever
reason, I tend to hit a hybrid a little bit better than an iron.
Not not well, mind you, but a little bit better than a than an
iron, like a mid iron, right. So I can't say how many times
like I'm 170 yards out, which is I don't need a hybrid for 170 if
I hit it. Well, that's for sure.
But I'm like, yeah, I don't know this 6 I or whatever it might
be. I don't know if I feel good
about this. Let me just swing really easy or
choke down on the hybrid, right. And then what do you do?
You pipe a hybrid and you fly a 25 yards over the green out of
bounds. You get a nine.
My point is there, eventually, if you're going to accomplish
something, you've got to be able to stare down what you try to
avoid. And you could take what I just
said and apply that to any aspect of life really, whether
it's a fear of public speaking. You could be, you know, you
could be ascending at a company and you are thought to be
brilliant and just so many incredible characteristics.
But you know deep down that you are just really, really like
lamenting the one time that you get called up to present
whatever you might have to present.
But to get to where you want to go, you know you have to do it.
And when you get called to do it, you either hammered out of
the yard or you you trip all over yourself, which will
positively or adversely impact you.
Like you got to figure things out.
Whatever your weakness is, you've got to work around it.
You can't ignore it forever. Eventually it's going to come to
roost. And to me, you know, the, the,
the, the, the problems with the Knicks.
And there's so many good things about the Knicks, but the things
that have bored me about this team all year, even going back
to last year, but certainly this year, because I won't know,
we'll say every year is a little different, new bench, whatever
new coach. But the things that worry me
about this team, whether it's the regular season against the
good teams or the first round against the Hawks or the next
round, I just have always thought that it's going to get
in the way of a championship run.
Unfortunately, I I've always thought that.
Jay, are we OK with the phones? It seems like something's up.
What's happening? You tell me.
Have anyone in the queue right now?
OK, but but as I'm saying, is that rectified because we had an
issue with it? Oh yeah, no, we're that was, I
mean, listen not to throw my guy.
Omar under the bus? No, no.
No, that was definitely a mic issue on his end.
Got it, got it. Hey, by the way, probably not a
bad time. Why don't you let it?
Let it. I know it's in the chat, but
we've got some new, some new watchers, some new fans.
Let everybody know how they can call the show.
Just do that for you. So yeah, let me I'll throw it in
the chat real quick so you can see it again.
We've we got a link to a stream yard site.
So it's the site we do the streaming out of.
You'll talk to me in that, in that backroom, I'll send you a
link to this one and then that's how we do it.
So 2 links, 2 clicks and you're right here ready to call in.
OK, it's pretty easy. So if you guys want to jump in,
you've been begging for the calls.
We got the calls. Let's go.
I'm a Magic fan here. That win the other night.
Been waiting all year for this. Yeah.
I mean, listen, that is a team that that I, I would not really
want to see. And that's going to be a team
that's going to be around in terms of the Eastern Conference
picture for a long, long time. There's no doubt about that.
The Knicks handed it, landed the game on a platter.
Silver platter. They did.
You're right, Michael. There's no question about that.
And. You just like You can't.
You can't. Do that in the first round.
Not that you can't recover from it and still win the series, but
like, it just reinforces all the things that I think meant.
I don't think I'm alone, you know, I don't.
I think that there are several different versions of Knick
fans, but I think for the most part, the overwhelming majority
of Knick fans are rooted in reality.
We're enthusiastic, we're certainly hopeful, but we're
also fearful of those things that kind of rear, you know,
it's ugly head at the most inopportune time.
Whether it's, you know, defense, whatever it might be, whether
it's Brunson, whether it's Cat, that dynamic, whether it's
coaching, you know, whether it's Bridges becoming small at the at
the worst time, whether it's whatever it might be.
You guys, nobody knows the weaknesses of their team better
than fans of the team. And I will say that like when
you watch a team, this does happen once in a while.
When you watch a team all the time.
And this happens to the Yankees a lot, right?
The Yankees, maybe they start to pick things up a little bit
sweeping the Royals, getting ready for the series against the
Red Sox, by the way, very early. Last time the Yankees and the
Red Sox played this early was was either 2018 or 2019.
And just doesn't decide. Like, I don't I don't really
care when the Yanks and the Red Sox play.
Sure, you want to tell me like back in the day, it's better,
you know, save it for Memorial Day or, you know, start getting
deeper in the season, a little more juice there.
All right, I can get behind that.
But like the Yankees Red Sox rivalry, I don't know, like, if
you're my son's 11 years old, like the Red Sox mean nothing to
him right now. They really don't largely kind
of what I felt growing up as as a Yankee fan because I had just
missed the the Pinella, you know, or that like the Nettles,
Bill Lee fight at home plate when Lee separated his shoulder,
you know, Carlton Fiske swinging at the plate when I get crazy
stuff. So when I started watching the
Yankees, it was more like, you know, Toronto in the 80s.
They were always in the Yankees way kind of teams like that.
The Tigers were really good at 84.
Obviously they've started out 35 and five, you know, and they won
the World Series. That team with Jack Morris Allen
travel. I, I didn't look at the Red Sox
the way that, you know, I certainly view them through the
prism of Pedro flinging Don Zimmer to the ground and Big
Papi and Pedro, Karim Garcia and Pedro and Posada and all those
other man eat all the Clemens stuff.
You know, going out to the mound with the bat, you know, it's
like it's, it's, I don't know, I fixed so much of the juice now
with the Yanks and the Red Sox. I think it's all manufactured
like it's all just a series of snippets of highlights from what
used to be. I mean, if you're really honest
with yourself, do the Yankees and the Red Sox have anything
more than Yankees and Jays right now?
I, I thought, not for me. Now, having said that, I still
want to smash them. I don't know if they will.
But yeah, that Yankee Red Sox robbery has just been kind of
muted for a little bit at PG17 under score 89.
All right, Knicks need a, a taller, true point guard.
Slide Brunson to the two on offense, have them switch back
to point guard on defense. Brunson isn't a point guard.
They need a floor general to keep the ball moving.
Fair. You know, there's only so many
of them out there. I, I, I don't really know what
to tell you. Cam Schlitter's trying to get it
going again. That's true.
That's a good point. At virtual discourse yes, I saw
the other day and I guess it was yesterday where Cam Schlittler
now we know what happened, you know, last year.
We know he's from up there went to college up there in in New
England and Cam Schlittler, I guess I've old Jesse that he's
received death threats like how how much of A psychopath and he
actually embraced it, which is which is interesting.
He's like bring it on. How crazy are this is the most
obvious statement you could possibly make or or question
that you can ask. But like how?
How insane are you? What let what next level crazy
are you to offer a death threat, whether it's at the team hotel
or social media for a guy on another team.
What what in the world are we doing here?
One of two things screwed the Knicks.
Either the NBA Cup curse or, well, yeah, the curse on Stephen
A at Mets 2128. No, it's not the Cup.
I mean, listen, the Knicks did play poorly after that, that's
for sure. But I don't because I don't
believe it. If I don't believe in the
Jonameth curse, you think I believe in any curse
attributable to the Knicks? I just don't.
I don't take it that way. No curses.
J Rod, are you a curse guy? I'm not a huge curse guy.
Our next caller is, though. Our next caller is definitely a
big curse guy. I'll get him in here now.
Just a SEC. Let's.
Get him. Yeah.
I've never. I've never.
Yeah, you got. I got you.
I never leaned into that like curses, you know where you know
what name made a deal with the devil or let me beat the Colts
despite being 12 1/2 point dogs whatever he was in Super Bowl 3.
And because of that, This is why The Jets are The Jets or like
the curse of the Bambino. Like, OK, well, who rectified
who reversed the curse? I mean, I I just the curse of
the Billy goat with the Cubs. That story going back in the
day. There was a what, what World
Series was that 19, I don't know, old or 1913, whatever the
heck. It was the Cubs.
There was somebody wanted to bring a Billy goat into Wrigley
Field. You know, true what?
That's the, that's at least the history of it, the story.
And I think he was turned away. And then I think the owner of
the goat said I cursed the Cubs or for not allowing my goat to
come into the stadium. And then, you know, they finally
broke through. But all those years they were
subjected to the curse of the Billy goat.
Well, you know who alleviated that?
Who, who just who, who made it go away?
I I I just, I can't get behind curses dude.
Yeah, no, I mean, I think it like it what in the modern day
you got like the Clipper curse you got I guess like the the
Mets kind of like, I don't know, I get at least you hear people
say the Mets are cursed, but they don't really have a true
reasoning or like onus. To yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know what it is at J Rod.
At the end of the day, it's really the easy, lazy way to
explain like in a very all-encompassing manner, the
failures of a team. Because to me, think about this
and I'm going to take The Jets for for, for example, here.
So get ready for the draft and we'll see what they do with two.
We'll see what they do with 16. We'll see if they make a trade.
We'll see what what happens. Like to me, The Jets aren't
where they are. And The Jets haven't like The
Jets haven't like The Jets haven't been the worst team in
football all these years with the longest playoff drought in
North American team sports 15 years now because The Jets are
cursed. The Jets have put themselves in
a position because they have had horrendous decision making.
And we've listened. This has come up a few times
here where Dolan made a litany of mistakes, you know, whether
it was Fisher or Hornacek or Phil for a role other than coach
or, you know, drafting the wrong players or whatever it might be.
That wasn't a curse. That was just guys, you know,
making decisions who weren't very good at their job, which
really, you know, over the years compiled and set you back
basically a decade and a half. And then you bring in Leon Rose,
who's got connections around the NBA, and it's a little
different. So that that's that's my whole
thing on the curses. I'm not buying it.
All right, What do you got there?
Jay? Hit me up.
You've got a Seth from North Carolina on some Knicks.
OK, Seth is up next here on BT Unleashed in North Carolina.
Seth, what's going on, buddy? How are you A?
Little disappointed and maybe a little.
I mean look, I am pissed at Mike Brown's stupidity of not having
a comp Brunson or Towns on the floor for 11 1/2 minutes between
them which led to a my 7 point differential because he took it
was the wrong point in time to experiment.
I mean, frustrating, I'll admit that, but.
I well now hold on a SEC, Seth, interesting.
I'm going to let you finish. Of course, your it's your tone
of fresh and this everybody is who they are.
So it's not a knock. Your tone as you express your
frustration is very different than my tone when I when I
express frustration, you sound like you're talking about the
weather. You don't sound very frustrated,
Seth. Trust me, it's when I get
frustrated, like I did with the Mets yesterday, I can be a loose
cannon. By the way, you Mets going to
win today or what? You got McClain?
I mean, are you going to win? And Steve Cohen, Hey, Steve
Cohen needs to stay away from Madison Square Garden.
Don't be bringing that negative Mets energy into the Garden
right now. Steve Cohen was there watching
the Knicks game, sitting courtside.
Mets have lost eleven straight. Worry about the Mets, worry
about financial portfolios, worry about Metropolitan Park.
Stay away from the Garden. Steve, can you, can you do that
please? Don't be bringing that stuff
inside of MSG. We don't need that.
As I was saying, McLean is basically coming the new degrom.
Great outings on the mound, but he gets little to no run
support. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I mean, he's, I love watching this kid pitch.
He is so good. I think he's going to deal
tonight. I don't know if the Mets are
going to hit, but I think that. Thank you for the call there,
Seth. I absolutely think Yep, still
there. What?
Yes, I'm still here. All right, go ahead.
Back to the question of my topic.
Oh, I thought you were all right.
I got you. The topic of my question got you
Between the two curses, I usually find the cup curse a
little more logical and more understandable because the Dan
housing curse. It's a damn gag.
I gotcha a lot of people. Are not wrestling officiant on
this show? Yeah.
Well, yes, yes. No, there are.
There are a bunch there for sure.
I got to look this up. The curse of the bill.
Any other curses that you subscribe to there, Seth?
Anybody else or no? No, I mean with The Jets, I
mean, sure, the deal with the devil is constantly, you name
it's deal with the Devil's come to bite them in the ass multiple
times over the last six decades. No, I don't believe in that.
Come on, man. Deal with the devil.
We talked about he went out there and they beat a great
team. What?
What deal did he make? Come on.
He openly stated in press review what interviews, what guarantee
he's not, even if it was meant as a joke that he made a deal
with the devil that The Jets would win a Super Bowl.
No, no, he wait a second, said he's yeah, he said, I guarantee
it. Did he actually say, quote, I
made a deal with the devil? No, he didn't stop, Seth.
No way. Thanks for the call.
No way. And the way that went down,
think about this, like he said that poolside Joe sitting there
and he's by the pool and all the reporters are around them.
And it was like so innocuous. It wasn't like I remember
Patrick Ewing may used to make a lot of bold predictions, many of
which really never came true. I mean, if you're if you
remember that and we love Pat, but I can't tell you how many
times I heard Pat. I guarantee we're going to win.
We're going to win game seven. We're going to win tomorrow.
You know, see you back in the garden.
I guarantee it. I so many because I used to clip
them out and cut them out and put them in my basement, hang
them. I had a little montage going
into our bathroom in the basement and and you know,
almost none of them came true. I remember one it said see you
tomorrow and it's it with an exclamation.
And instead of YOU they spelled UEWCU tomorrow.
Anyway, the curse of the Billy goat.
You want to you want to hear this, Jay?
Absolutely. Give it to me.
OK, so OK Oh, I was off on the air.
My bad. All right, so the Curse of the
Billy Goat was a sports curse that was supposedly placed on
the Cubs in 1945 by by by Billy Goat Tavern owner William
Cianus. The curse lasted 71 years, blah
blah blah. During game four of the 1945
World Series at the Rig, Cianus pet goat named Murphy was
bothering other fans, so the pair were asked to leave the
stadium. I mean, they actually let it go
in the stadium. This is not 19-O2.
I mean, this is almost 1950. I'm a little surprised by that.
Outraged. See, outraged, Cianus allegedly
declared them Cubs. They ain't going to win no more.
Quote which had which had been interpreted to mean that the
Cubs would never win again, at least for the remainder of
Cianus life. All right, there you go.
That is wild dude. Wow, yeah, Now again, I'm.
I'm looking at the Wikipedia page, the exact nature, the
curse, different accounts, various accounts.
Some state that he declared that no World Series games would ever
be played at Wrigley Field again, while others believe that
his band was on the Cubs appearing in the World Series.
So making no mention of a specific venue.
So a little bit unclear there, but yeah, I'm just I'm not, I'm
not a cursed guy. I I'm not a cursed guy at all.
Well, I mean, I'm I'm just not. I mean, if you are and you and
you root for a certain team, just pack up shop.
If you believe in curses, you got no hope.
Add notorious dole 13. I mean, The Jets curse seems
real to me. And I guarantee if they ever
make it, they're going to lose just to spite us.
Yeah, I just can't subscribe to that.
You might be right. I mean, you very well might be
there. And Mr. Notorious, I hear you,
buddy, up my bed. But, yeah.
And by the way, the the guarantee that Joe made as I, as
I started to say, he's sitting around the pool and you got all
the riders around them. And it wasn't like some bull
like, oh, I guarantee we're going to smoke the Colts
tomorrow. I guarantee we're going to beat
them. It was just, you know, I, I
think really the genesis of it was, was the reporters were
asking him about their chances, which nobody really gave them
much of a chance. And if I was around at that
point and I wasn't a Jet fan, I'm laying in the wood.
I mean, I'm, I'm betting the Colts, I mean, 12 1/2 point
favorites. Nobody thought, nobody thought
The Jets were going to win that game.
So, you know, I would have been calling up my guy cuz there was
no online stuff at that point. You know, and hopefully couple
of days after meeting him on the street corner getting a bag of
money, but I wouldn't have that would have been paying him money
because I would have bet the Colts anyway when they brought
it up. He's like, yeah, they're good
man. We're but you know, I I we're
going to win. I guarantee it.
You know, that southern drawl, I guarantee we're going to win.
I guarantee it. And it wasn't just this
ridiculous over the top, you know, wrestling cutting a promo
kind of deal. I guarantee we're going to win.
I got faith in my boys there. I I guarantee it.
All right, What do we got next here?
Jay, pop them up. Who do you have?
We've got Carlos from Winston Salem North.
Carolina, All right, all right. I like the the Southern market
has tapped into BT on Leesville. Carolina's coming in here, huh?
Yeah. It is Carlos Winston.
That's where Stephen A went. Winston Salem.
State right down the street. What's happening, brother?
Listen, appreciate you bringing us on.
Really appreciate it. Thank you, ma'am.
One thing I got to say is Brunson, I'm wondering if the
book is out, do teams realize that if you get under his skin
and you know, you know, he's getting cooked on the defensive
end? Like, are they getting him to to
to to start playing this hero ball because they're getting him
out of the plan? Get the ball to Cat, get the
ball to the other players. But no, let's go down there,
start cooking them, talk to him, get under his skin and they know
he's going to come back and try to score.
Yeah, it's an interesting thought.
I mean, do you, I know that you, you throw it out there, do you
believe that or, or you just throw it out there as a
possibility? I believe that Brunson has a
humility problem. And, you know, really?
He's a dog. All right, you got to be a dog
right to. No doubt.
To to do that, but at the same time, it's like when he can't
get his shot off, when he can't be the man, he feels like he has
to keep trying to be that person instead of instead of deferring.
You know he's. Got the the dog is on the team
now. Does he act like a dog all the
time? And I'm talking about cat.
He's the cat dog. Yeah, I get you.
Get him the ball. Yeah, yeah.
Well, there's a lot there. OK, Well, think about this.
I mean, Carlos, how much do you want to put on the coach?
I mean, he is the coach. I mean, think about before you
even answer, think about this, right?
So who's your football team? You're a Panthers fan.
What? Who's your NFL team?
Actually, I'm a Dolphin fan. Dolphins fan.
All right, Yikes. I mean, not that I have much to
say about Dolphins. They've been been there since
Burrito, but I'm trying to win. Dolphins.
Go ahead. All right, so you know, dolphins
play the pads. Dolphins play Chiefs in a prime
time game and like the Dolphins throw it 70% of the time they
run at 30 and you know, you're calling up or you're tweeting
away or you're doing whatever you do to you as you react to a
game and you are upset with the game plan.
Now it's not to whom obviously he's gone, but it's not to his
fault that they threw it 71 or 72% of the time it's the play
caller, right? So don't you think we've got to
differentiate between and I know it's not quite, it's not like,
yes, you call plays in the NBA, but there's also a lot of free
flow and read and react. I think that, you know, like,
you got to look at the coach to some extent.
You got to put your foot down and he just hasn't done it.
I mean, we love Brunson. He's got too much freedom to do
whatever he wants. That's a problem that has not
been rectified. No, you're right.
It's interesting because I'm hearing a lot of people blame
Brown and I get why you would blame Brown.
And I don't know if you noticed it.
It might have been in the third or early in the 4th.
It seemed like Rick Brunson went to Brown and said get him out of
the game. I can't.
Did you see that? Where?
I saw that, but I don't. I didn't.
I don't know. I didn't.
Yes, I saw it. I wasn't thinking that, he said.
Get him out of the game, but of course I saw that.
I mean, you think he's really saying get him out of the game
at that point? That's what I mean.
Right after that, they brought in what's his.
Name. I know, I know, I know, but I
don't. I don't it's weird because he
wasn't playing good at that point and that no.
That's at all. I'm wondering if Brown is kind
of like skating the line between does he want to take?
What is the word I'm trying to say?
Take the ball out of out of Brunson's hand or let him figure
it out. Well, I mean, listen, Carlos,
it's it's a tough situation because when you have and thanks
for the call, buddy, good call. Thank you, brother.
Make sure you keep checking in. Thank you very much.
I it's it's tricky in this sense.
Like there is a lot of evidence that when you give Jalen Brunson
the ball and you let him cook and basically read and react.
I mean, he's delivered a lot of wins for the Knicks.
He's as clutch as it gets. He's at a multitude of 40 point
games in the playoffs. So it's not like it's
irresponsible to let Jaylen Brunson operate with this
freedom. But you know, the next level.
Maybe there's a slight alteration, but if it's not
found by now, I feel like it's just a little presumptuous to
think that, well, they'll figure like, OK, we can identify this
here doing a show. But the fact that they still
play the same way is worrisome because we've been talking about
like, this is not the first day. Now, I have not been incredibly
hard on Jalen Brunson this year, but I brought up some some
things that bother me about him. Like he's not bulletproof.
He's not beyond reproach. We all know he's not a good
defender and we all know sometimes he takes some bad
shots and it's ISO ball and he's ball dominant and guys just
stand around and there's frustrations to build there, you
know, and if it hasn't been fixed by now, that means that it
hasn't been really addressed. And if it has been addressed, it
hasn't been addressed. You know, in a, in a way that's
that's worked. So that's a coaching aspect.
I I don't, I don't know what the answer here is.
You know, I just don't When you look at this Knicks team, like
if you told me, think about all the years, right?
Oh, let's forget about even the Knicks.
Take any team, right? You are a fan of an NBA team.
And I said to you, hey, here's what I'm going to give you going
into the season, OK? I'm going to give you a point
guard who has the best clutch numbers in the NBA, number one.
And he's going to put up basically 25 at night and he's
going to be a star and he's in his 20s still.
OK, boom. I'm going to give you guys
basically 7 feet, who's 80% from the line, who's been all NBA,
who's 40% from downtown and you know, rebounds.
Not, not not the old school Charles Oakley way of
rebounding, but his rebounding numbers are always there.
So you're going to have that as well.
I'm going to give you a couple of wings who could shoot from
the corner, who could D it up. Obviously I'm going to give you
a bench that's pretty good. You got a little defense, you
got a little offense, you got a backup center who is by far even
close. I mean, I was going to say he's
the best backup, backup big in the NBA.
Then you start to think that Mitch Robinson might be the best
backup big in the history of the game, not just now.
I mean, who else is a better bat?
Like who does what he does as a backup?
And I remember watching Bill Walton backup Robert Parish in
the mid 80s. But Walton was a demand.
He was still like great aptitude, great IQ, but a real
diminished figure at that point. So in terms of like, name, sure,
they want to tell me Walton, but Kareem never had those kind of
guys backing him up. And you know, Hakeem never had
that. Patrick certainly never had
that. Patrick had Herb Williams, who
we love, and Chris Dudley. I mean, jeez, the more I think
about this, I think Mitchell Robinson is the best backup five
in the history of the NBA. So you got that, too.
Again, you still can't quite figure this out, man.
Oh, man. And just to be clear, this is
completely consistent with what I have said all year about the
Knicks. They're fun, they're good.
Some nights they're really good. But their flaws terrify me.
And I think what's happening now is the distribution of blame is
growing. It went from the head coach and
then. Cat just like body.
Language And you know, Cat doesn't play.
You know, he's big and strong but doesn't play that
conventional forceful way. And especially as a Knick fan,
you know, watching Patrick play and being a fan of the 90s
Knicks where there's an association of toughness and
like that, even though that's a million years ago and nobody
really wants to hear it anymore. Jeez.
But you know, if you grew up and, and you watch that team,
they like there's a culture. Like there's a, there's an
aspect of Knick basketball that we always want to be and see is
transferable. And that's toughness.
Starks had it, Pat had it, Oak had it, Mace had it.
Everybody had Derek Harper had it.
Everybody on the team had it. Otherwise you weren't on the
team except maybe Hubert Davis, who was a shooter, right?
So he was an easy target. You know, he's a little, and I
said, I don't mean this as a shot.
Cat's a little goofy like his, You know, he's he's odd, he's
fluid, but he's he's not, he's not, he's not incredibly fluid.
Like, you know, remember when Westbrook pushed him, pushed him
out of the post earlier this year, 63 I mean, come on, All
the the double pumps and the flails at the rim.
Like he is an easy target. All right.
But that man, that man, Karl Anthony Towns, has reshaped the
way he plays the game and he has tried to fit in and he has fit
in and the efficiencies been really good.
And he continues to get ignored. And that's going to be the
reason why the Knicks don't win. It might not be the only reason,
but it's going to be a central reason.
What do you got there, Jay? Anything.
We've got a Tyler from Syracuse, NY.
Oh, I think that is, I believe, Tyler's first time calling the
show all the way up there. Tyler, what's going on, buddy?
How are you? How's it going?
Tyler Rowland here. I have a question.
Here you go. I had a question about, you
know, what do you think about the?
The Knicks like championship window.
You think this is this could be the last year that they could
get it going because I feel like when I'm watching the game.
They always show like these sparks where they they are
easily. I feel like the best team in the
league, but then they also have the sparks of you know, what are
what are they doing? Yep.
I feel like if this doesn't work this year and it didn't work
last year, I feel like do you think it's time to switch
something up Yes yeah, 100%. I can promise you that's what's
going to happen. Now.
Here's what's interesting though.
Generally when, and tell me if you agree with this, when you
have a core of players, right? And I mean, it's not quite the
same, but we went through the Mets core.
You know, we talked about that a lot, how obviously they they
really changed things up. Doesn't look good now, but they
did change things up. Like when you have a core that's
together for a long time, especially in basketball, and
that core gets busted up. Generally at that point, the
championship when the window was sealed shut.
I would answer it this way, Tyler, if the Knicks don't get
like to the finals or at least the Eastern Conference finals
and then play well and have a deep series, then wholesale
changes are coming. So this iteration, this version
of the Knicks championship window would be over.
But and and this is at least somewhat encouraging because now
you start talking about Giannis and we'll see if he flexes
behind closed doors and forces away here.
Usually when when the window shuts, it's almost like a
rebuild. But even if it doesn't, and I
don't want to get too much into next year now playoffs are just
starting. But it's a good question.
Yes, this window would shut, but I believe another one would
open. For how long?
I don't know, because I don't know what it would take to to go
out and get Yanis. And you know, that calf does
worry you because we've seen a lot of calf injuries be a
precursor to Achilles, whatever. So there's other things that
play downstream, but it would still be open.
But it would be open with a different cast.
Do you believe? Do you agree with that?
Yeah, I agree. I think it.
It will be very tough to get Giannis.
Well, it's Tyler. It's not tough if he basically
tells Milwaukee, if you don't trade me to the Knicks, then I'm
I'm not going wherever you send me like and he's not that kind
of personality to do it publicly.
But it seems like he's pretty motivated to get here.
And I think he's going to be dealt this summer.
I never thought he was going to be dealt.
We talked about this. I never thought he was going to
be dealt during the regular season.
You know, there was some smoke and some some sparks like, well,
you know, maybe during the no or during the summer.
No, I think it's going to happen this summer.
I think he will be Yelp for Milwaukee and he's got the cards
and he brought up a championship, so they very well
might do right by him. It seems like he wants New York
and if that's the case, I I believe he can carve his path
here. Yeah, I think it'll be tough for
because I don't I don't know what do you think?
But I think Cat has lost significant value this season
and I feel like you need the young core, which you guys are
good enough where you don't really get the draft picks to.
Yeah, guys, a lot of play. Toddler.
I almost want to I want to end, you know, pushing it too far
forward. Thank you for the call, buddy up
at Syracuse. Oh, you got it, man.
Thanks for reaching out there. You know, I mean, the core and
it like, you know, gonna have a new bench next year to an
extent. I mean, I I can't I can't get
too wrapped up into next year now.
But no, I mean, I think we all, we all went into the season
knowing Mike Brown's getting one big swing and you know, based on
what Tom Thibodeau accomplished as a coach was very successful.
Now you're here to take the next step.
And if you don't, there's going to be repercussions from a
coaching perspective and there's going to be repercussions from a
personnel perspective. That's just the way it is.
J Rob, what do you have up next there, buddy?
We've got Tim. He didn't disclose where he's
from, but I'm sure we'll be able to figure that out.
We'll figure it out. There you go, Jay.
Thank you very much, Timmy. Where you at there, Tim?
What's going on, Tim? Timmy.
Hey, BT, can you hear me? Yeah, I got you, Tim.
Where are you calling from, Tim? Hey, BT, can you hear me?
I got you, buddy. Where?
Where you calling from, Tim? BT can you hear me?
OK, I'm gonna have to gonna have to drop.
Sorry, Tim, Sorry. So good.
So he never told you anybody who else we have in the queue set it
up there, Jay? We've got Mike from Queens, NY
Mike, are you here? Queens is stepping up Mike,
what's going on, Mike? Hey BT thanks for taking my
call, man. Big fan back from the fan with
Sal and everyone. I just want to talk about Dolan.
I really think Dolan's a problem here.
I feel like Dolan today. Go ahead.
Let me hear it, man. I I mean let's let's talk about
it man. Dolan was really controlling
this team a couple seasons ago. We were in a dark place.
You give Leon the ropes and he's really bringing this team back
to life. And then disappointing way to
end the season last year. But then I think it's pretty
obvious Dolan wanted to keep Tim, Tom Thibodeau, Dolan wants
them out. You don't really have a plan set
up. You bring Mike Brown in, he wins
two extra games from last season without having Bronson for about
two months. You don't have Mitch until
January, February of last season.
You get a Eastern Conference final team handed on a platter
and it's just embarrassing. It's really embarrassing how the
Knicks were closing out games this season, how they closed out
last night. And it really just doesn't make
sense. You have no plan.
You want to fire Thibodeau. And on top of all the things
that Mike Brown doesn't have the best reputation.
We've heard rumors that, you know, he's lost the locker room,
he's lost the team. Whether people don't respect him
as much. I just don't really think it was
the best decision. OK, but hold on, hold on, Mike.
So hold on, Mike, hold on. Let's flush through this.
You're throwing a lot of stuff out there and and that's fine.
Let's talk through it. But it's I got to be honest with
you, very strange day to call and have James Dolan as the
lead, like the full focal point of your ire.
I'm just not feeling that. And trust me, I've I've
destroyed Dolan over the years. My God.
But today's the day that you get a call that hammer James Dolan.
Dolan does the right thing. He writes the checks whenever
someone needs to get paid. Dolan does do the paying.
But I don't know, I just feel like after the way the season
ended last season and getting rid of Thibodeau, which was it
seemed like it was all Dolan's doing.
You know, everyone heard that he was in all those meetings, all
the player meetings and everything.
I just I just don't like the look of it.
I remember in the middle of the season when the Knicks had that
losing streak, it had to come down to Brunson who had the
players meeting. And I guess that's when the
Knicks started picking up some fire again.
But it just stems back to Mike Brown was a very bad hire.
And it doesn't seem like Leon Rose was behind that higher.
It seemed like it was Dolan doing that higher.
And well, I don't I don't know that the Knicks had a real plan
there, Mike. And and thank you for the call.
Interesting. So, and there's two things at
play here. Thanks for checking in, Mike.
So it's number one, you know, and again, this it's kind of odd
to really get into this too, too much after a, a brutal 12 point
fourth quarter collapse at home in the first round.
But I'll, I'll, I'll indulge for a moment.
Like I don't think the players want to play for Tom Pibbenow
anymore. I you know, you talk about when
there's player exit meetings, you know, when you when you have
a bunch of respected veterans and they communicate certain
things, I think most owners are probably going to pay that some
mind. You know, we don't know exactly
the depth of how, you know, how much Leon Rose was involved in
that. And, and at this point I write,
it doesn't really matter because I thought that Tom Thibodeau, I
thought it was time to move on. Like if I fundamentally disagree
with the move, which I did not, then I, you know, I would have a
totally different take. Obviously, I think that the, the
search was, was all over the map.
Like if you want to tell me, and again, this isn't really the day
to unpack it A-Z, but you the next search was on Dawn Staley.
They talked to, I mean, they talked to everybody.
I mean, they had like 7. It was very convoluted.
The next search, which which maybe tells me that the plan
wasn't as well mapped out maybe as it should be, but I can't
fundamentally get after James Dolan now #1 there's no reason
to now. They won more games that they
did a year ago. It's not like they had this
massive underachievement during the regular season.
Now, you want to tell me that they're not perfect.
That's true. But is that a personnel thing?
Or is that because they got rid of Tom Pivotal on board of Mike
Brown? I mean, I think it's more rooted
in in personnel. I just do, and I've always said
that I have said this from the start, before the season
started, I did not think the Knicks could win the
championship because, and most of it was really directed at
Cat. And I absolved because I didn't
really think it was it was fair or timely to incorporate Brunson
at that point. I think it's a little bit more
now and as that relationship on the court at that cohesion
between Cat and Brunson, we've seen a little flicker and then,
you know, it's gone. It's, it's gone again.
I, I just, I, I don't understand it.
So I think that the, I think that, listen, at the end of the
day, I just think that this is going to be a very frustrating
Nick playoff run. I I don't understand why you
would expect this to change radically just because it's the
playoffs. Like the, I think the Knicks
play hard, like I watch them on a nightly basis, right?
It's not a lack of effort. It's I, I think the skill set or
the talent OR the inherent limitations of some of their
defenders or some other things about the team, the way they're
built. I think that that's what's going
to probably, you know, short circuit a championship run.
But it's not a lack of effort where save.
Like if we watch the Knicks during the regular season and
we're like, all right, we know there's another level to go to.
Like they're going to crank it up and play a little bit harder
and play with some more purpose and integrity.
You know, well, then you can say, all right, let's go just
sit back. And, you know, we saw a pretty
good version during the regular season.
Now we'll get a heightened, A heightened version with more
intensity. And now the Knicks are ready to
go on this two-month run. I mean, Jalen Brunson plays
hard. You know, Mikhail Bridges plays
hard, OG plays hard, Josh Hart plays hard, Mitch Robinson plays
hard, Deuce plays hard, Alvarado plays hard.
You know, Tyler Kolek doesn't play much anymore, but when he
plays, he plays hard. I mean, these guys MO Dor plays
hard. It's not an effort thing or a
commitment thing or an engagement thing.
It's really just the way they are built.
It's just not championship worthy in my opinion.
And I really hope that I'm wrong, but I think that last
night was a a very painful, early, not subtle reminder.
You know, something's just a little off.
Yeah. I mean, I'll read this because
it's a super chat. I don't want to get too much
into this now. I I appreciate.
Fabulous. Thank you.
Can Yanis and JB play together with JB, give up the ball with
Cat and JB be a better matchup? It can't be both.
Yeah, that is summer. You can leave it up for a SEC.
Let us handle. Get some up there.
Jay, I appreciate that, but can you get that back up?
Thank you. Yeah.
I mean, I'm not sure. Yeah, I I don't.
I don't know. And that's something I will
explore down the road. I mean, I don't even know if the
Bucks want cat. Like, there's so many layers to
this. Who the hell knows who else you
going to give up? It's not going to be a cat for
Yana swap, so you might have to recruit another team.
Don't know. A lot of layers to it.
That's down the road. All I know is last night, you
know, you're sitting there, you're watching the first
quarter, beautiful perimeter passing, selfless.
Everybody's humming. Mitch Robinson's crushing it
early, just destroying people, you know, And then I will tell
you, when Mitch, who did he walk over?
Jay? Who was that?
When he, when he dragged him a little bit, Dyson Daniels, It
was Daniels. Yeah.
What are we doing? I don't understand that.
I just, that's just, that's just disrespectful, Yeah.
I don't understand why, why you would do that.
At that point in the game, things were going well.
A. Little early, it was a little
early to be doing all that. Yeah, especially when and
listen, Mitch Robinson, he's a good he's a good player, but
he's so he is the goofiest player in the NBA.
Like, I don't know if you've ever been on his Instagram.
I've seen a bunch. Of stuff, dude, he's like a
southern. Hick.
Oh yeah. Acting.
Like a like a hooper's body, like he's killing with little
like snakes. I saw stuff like that.
So I'm like he's doing stepping over Dyson Dick.
I saw the snake that the snake was the other day was a little
guy was actually holding it a garden snake.
I know he loves his trucks, his monster trucks.
No, I mean, I love Mitchell Robinson, but it's it's I didn't
I didn't like what he did last night.
You don't need to do that. Number one #2 I'm listen, if, if
maybe if like Alvarado does something like that, if you're
down by 12 points, you're trying to spark someone.
Nicks were playing well at that point.
Unnecessary. I'm not going to go nuts over
it. But I mean, you're dragging
them. You're basically dragging you
sack on them, man. That's, that's what you're
doing. So I can understand why they
were they were unhappy about that.
And I think that, you know, Mitch, it's funny.
I I remember saying when I first saw him, like Mitchell Robinson,
for a guy who does get off the ground and is explosive and does
so many things. Well, he walks like he's 90,
like it it right, doesn't he? It's like he's a.
Slow player. It's painful, but he's not slow
when he's doing his thing. He's just very creaky and very
mechanical, like, just, I don't know, you would think that he
would be like, the slowest, least athletic dude on the
court. That's not the case.
Like, he is great at his job. I love Mitch Robinson and I
always have. But, yeah, I didn't love what he
did last night. How do you say that at Rep QN
Y-3430? We'll go with that.
All right. Thank you.
Hey, you think the Knicks can make 220 point comebacks against
Boston under Brown? Fibs brought a toughness to this
team that Brown does not. Now that's interesting that
that's probably something that at some point is going to
manifest itself this year in the toughness department.
And I, I think that that's fair. Now, I'm not going to say
absolutely no because he's pretty much got the same
players, you know, within, outside of a different bench
that Tom Thibodeau probably wouldn't have used anyway.
But yeah, I I think that the, the DNA and the characteristics
of of the Tom Thibodeau teams that we really did appreciate
really manifested themselves when you were down.
Like there was just never a quit, you know, and certainly
regular season tenacity. And and you know, you know what
I'm talking about. Like there's just different, I
don't see different energy, but a different tenacity.
I'm going to keep it simple. But I also think that the
players that they have, like, I mean, Josh Hart to me plays with
the same tenacity he does. I don't see, maybe you want to,
I'm not talking about usage rate, just in terms of exerting
like a physical level of, of engagement or or, you know,
basketball toughness. I don't feel like I'm watching
this version of the Knicks versus last year's version and
I'm seeing some precipitous drop in terms of energy or passion or
physicality. I I don't, I don't really see
that. I don't see that.
I don't know if you guys do. I don't see it.
I watch every Knick game. But yeah, when I you do get the
sense that if they are down by 17/18/1920 and it's not the
first half, but it's, it's later in a game, you know, would you
see those kind of comebacks this year with Mike Brown?
My inclination would be no. But you know, I, I can't
actually give you a definitive answer.
I can give you my opinion, but there's no right or wrong until
we get to that. And hopefully we don't get to
that position. You know what else we got here,
Jay? What are you seeing is the
general tone about the Knicks? I know you're reading a lot of
the chats here. Oh.
Everything's Knicks. Everything.
No, no, I know what I for sure. I knew it was going to be a big
Knicks day. Is it?
Yeah, it's one game. Like I get the sense that no.
It's pretty negative, Yeah. So it's it's pretty I'd say BT
core as the kids would say, like, is that right?
Yeah, definitely. The the people are definitely
just behind the idea of listen, this is who the Knicks are and
not that this game is a like, you know, it's not Cyndi Lauper,
them showing their true colors or nothing.
Oh, look at you. But others I, I, I really do
think the general consensus is this is who the Knicks are.
And trust me, when it comes into a more pressure filled
situation, it's only going to be exacerbated.
Yeah, yeah, that's what really worries me about this.
And Jay, what? What was your first day on the
show? My first day.
What dissent? January.
January what? When did you actually start
producing the show? It was after the kids because my
son was doing it while he was home for Christmas.
Yeah, let me see. Well, do you know the first day?
I'm going back. I'm guessing.
I'm guessing it was in the January 20s.
Like I'm going back there right now.
All right? I'm there.
It was his NFL irrelevancy better than heartbreak on
January 19th. On January 19th.
OK, so you have been here since January 19th, All right.
Have I ever really deviated at all from my take on the Knicks
this year? Not once, no.
I think it's been really consistent because I think that
it's a pretty easy team to read. Number one, you you know the
competition in the Eastern Conference.
Like, you know who's good and you know what's what?
You know who's a threat, You know who's not ready yet.
But we've also seen this team together for a while.
And I think it's a pretty early read.
Like I think for me it's tougher, A tougher read just
based on what's going on now is like, are the Mets going to get
their act together? I mean, they've lost eleven
straight, but I kind of liked what the Mets did going into the
season. So I'm sitting here saying, all
right, I had the Mets. I didn't go nuts.
I had the Mets as a 91 win team, a playoff team, you know, not
going to the World Series or winning anything, but being a
wild card team, being a playoff team and, and looking different,
being more athletic, catching the ball more and, and, and
obviously, you know, winning eight more games than they did a
year ago. Now I don't know if I I
definitely don't have that in 91.
Seems like if I had to change that, I would go under that, but
I'm not because it's a long baseball season and we've seen
whether it's the Nationals years ago when they won that
championship, they started 19 and 31.
We've seen the Yankees come flying out of the chute and then
go basically 50 and 50 / 100 and then kind of, you know, look
different at the end and then fall short.
We've seen the Mets come out and go start O and five and then,
you know, pop and it like we've seen the Mets start great and
fizzle like last year. So the baseball's different, all
right, But to me, the Mets. The the Mets are a tricky
evaluation for me now, but the Knicks are not.
And I wish that they were, because if the Knicks were a
tricky evaluation, I think I would have more hope.
I mean like rooted hope. I don't mean like, hey, let's I
hope we win, which of course I am, but I mean like substantive
hope, like rooted in something where I can get on the air and I
can look you guys in the eye and I could say I really truly
believe that the Knicks are going to win a championship.
I have over the championship. I have not said that once this
year, not once, even before the start of the season when I was
still on WFAN, you know, when when we gave our predictions and
I remember saying, remember, I amended this quickly.
I'm like, that's, that's a little bit ridiculous.
I said the Knicks were going to win 60 games.
And then like as soon as I came out of my mouth, I'm like, Nah,
probably more like 55. Drop your questions in the chat
and then what's that? Oh, I didn't realize I was still
on the mic. Oh, you're OK, That's all good.
So it's there's no new evidence to the contrary.
The Knicks are good and the Knicks are interesting and the
Knicks are in the conversation, but last night shouldn't be
stunning. We've seen that before.
We've seen this happen with this crew and it's pretty much when
the Knicks lose, it's kind of the same script.
It's Jalen playing hero ball and it doesn't work.
Not by the way, a lot of times it does work, to be fair, but it
doesn't work or something with the coaching that's a little off
or Cats disengaged or just not involved, which ties into
coaching and Brunson being bold dominant, you know, and and
that's the bottom line. So, yeah, last night stunk, but
I mean to to rant and rave, which I did a little bit at the
beginning, but it's it's not cathartic because I, I don't
want to say I saw this coming. I didn't listen going into the
fourth quarter and they're up by 12 then.
I think the Knicks were going to lose that game.
No, but there's a reason why going into the series, I said
Nixon 5. And then I quickly amended that
and said Nixon 6. Like you're just, you know,
there's flaws, there's problems. All right, Jay, I see a couple
of callers in the queue. Yeah, just a SEC.
We're, we're, we're working out some audio stuff.
OK, we're good. We're good, I believe.
By the way, yeah, well, hang on. I'm trying to check this out.
Oh, hey, we are basically at 20,000 Subs.
Let's get there. Let's get there.
I don't know if we'll get there by the end of the show.
What are we, 13 away? I think we're no.
Straight up I I guarantee there's 13 people watching this
right now who aren't sub. You better.
Well, let's go right now. I guarantee it.
You better hit that sub right now.
I like it like it sub content, you know, messages, all that
stuff, the algorithm yeah, look at it right now, 19,987 and
that's that's a symbolic, you know, benchmark that that I that
I want to get to today. I mean I will obviously get
through it today, but I'd love to get it by the end of the show
and then build off that that would that's going to mean
something to me. You know, 'cause I'm, I told
you, I'm looking at, I'm literally looking at, can I show
you? No, I don't want to mess around
with the camera, but I'm looking at that piece of paper.
I mentioned this the other day and I've got it written down and
I got my little Sharpie, you know, like they do with the,
with the NCAA tournament. And every time I hit a
benchmark, I cross it off like we're going old school.
And you know, I'd love to be able to write down 20,000 today.
It's going to mean something to me.
We got Jay, who's all right. We've got Tim from Dallas.
Tim from Dallas, I believe you said.
Timmy, are you there? Tim, I'm here.
How are you doing, buddy? What's up, Tim?
How you doing? Doing Good.
I'm actually a former Jersey guy myself, coming from Bergen
County. OK.
Where'd you you grew up? You went to high school in
Jersey? Yeah, I went to high school in
Bergenfield. OK.
Hey, did he play ball? And he did AT ball.
Little Little League. And then did some tennis in in
high school. Nice.
There you go. There you go.
But I was gonna ask you, how did you do on your your first pitch
in in Arlington the other other day?
It was the Velo was good. the IT was not a strike.
You know, that was Easter Sunday.
I I told the whole story. The ball was slippery.
Any excuse I could find, I make 30,000 people were staring at
me. You know, I, I wasn't really
nervous, but I wanted to throw a strike so bad and I was so
preoccupied with the ball being a little slippery.
But I got to own it like a man. I got to take the L B lo was
good delivery, looked like a former athlete.
It was not a strike and that's going to bother me because I
wanted to throw a strike, but I had a blast.
They treated us great that the Raiders family.
Yeah, that's cool. I was going to say you and you
and Sasha do like a ABTN style on the road.
Come come down to Dallas. You know, you think you have a
good following all around the country.
Dallas is pretty good. I mean, Dallas has treated me
and my family very well, so I appreciate that.
What's going on, Timmy? I was going to ask you about the
next. This might be a bit of a
shocker, but if the Knicks were to somehow lose in this first
round or lose the Celtics in the next round, do you think it
might be time to change the structure of the team?
Maybe like not look at Brunson as as a as the lead guy.
Maybe they try to not rebuild, but kind of retool in a way.
Yeah, I, well, I listen, Brunson's not going to get dealt
anywhere, but maybe take away some of the responsibilities.
Yeah, listen, and I kind of addressed this before there,
Tim. I, I think you get to a point
where, you know, there there's a finite window for any group.
And, and think about what I just said about the Mets, the core
with Lindor and Nemo, Pete, obviously those guys, you know,
now Sturms has to prove that what he decided to do ultimately
is the right move. But I never thought that core
was going to win anything. So I agreed with some of the
things he did, most of the things he did this offseason,
but he's the jams. He's got to get it right.
I could just give you my opinion and my opinion pertaining to the
Knicks here. Yeah.
I mean, there's no way you roll this thing back.
He just. There's no chance.
Like if the Knicks lose in Round 2, or even if they lose in the
conference finals and it's lopsided, then I think the coach
is gone and I believe the core will be strongly disrupted.
I think it has to be at that point.
That's what I would do. Yeah.
Yep. Cool.
That's what I would do. All right.
So next we've got Mike G Mike.
G Queens. All right, let's go, Mikey.
Fired up there, Mikey. In Queens.
What's going what's going on BT how we doing I'm.
Good man, how are you? Yeah, I was at the game last
night, just saw some things from Mike Brown that got me very
disappointed. And, you know, I'm thinking this
is going to be a tougher series than I imagined.
Specifically, I want to talk about the rotations.
You know, throughout the regular season, we always say the
regular season's practice for the playoffs and we staggered
Kat and Brunson like Kat run the second unit and we come out in
that second corner with second quarter with du, Shamit,
Clarkson and Anobi and Mitch and it's just where's the offense
coming from? Don't know and I I don't.
Know from Clarkson, but we we had deuce.
And Shamit taking step back threes.
And then if Clarkson is not going to create and he's going
to give up points on the other end, there's no point of him
being in. So I think they figured it out
at the end. Third quarter, they put an
Alvarado for Clarkson because if it's like if we're going for
defensive line up, you know, go all the way and, you know, just
shocking. And another thing about the
defensive matchups you got, CJ was just cooking Brunson the
whole game. And he crushed.
Him and I get you want bridges on Walker to take him out you
want hard and John so you want OG, you know helping off.
But at at some point in the third or fourth quarter you got
to give him a different look. It took him to the last two
minutes to give CJ a different look.
It's just like you know, Walker in the third quarter is 2 for
8/2 for 9:00. If you give him looks for
Brunson, is he confident and making everything, you know,
just maybe TJ goes cold. So you can you just kind of, you
know, do some adjustments that way.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, there was just a lot wrong with last
night. And thanks for the call there,
Mike. And you talk about, you know,
staggering the two players, which is something I mentioned
at the start of the show. But also, you know, and again,
it wasn't some prolonged stretch.
It didn't it didn't it didn't like ruin the game, but it
didn't help. I, I don't know why you had the,
the fivesome of Alvarado, Clarkson, Bridges, OG, and Mitch
for a 3 minute and 12:00 second sequence when those five guys
never played a single solitary second together in the regular
season. I, I, I don't understand the
logic behind that. I just don't get it, you know?
I'm sorry. I, I, I, Mike Brown had a rough
night, but we all know this, obviously.
All right, Jay, what do you got cooking, man?
We got two more calls. Yeah, we've and we've got a
couple more in the in the backroom.
We've got James from Hoboken. Go ahead, Jimmy.
What's happening, man? Hey, BT, What's going on?
I'm good. How are you, James?
Yeah, I thought I'd mix it up a little bit and talk Giants
draft. Go for it.
Yeah. So a lot of mocks are are
showing the Giants targeting either Downs or maybe Sonny
Styles with the first pick. Yep, that first pick in the
first round. So now they got now that they
got the 10th pick, I was wondering if they might go for
an offensive lineman like Spencer Finnow from Utah.
He's from Utah. They got the ones from.
Mod receiver, but mod receiver, it seems like a pretty deep
draft for that. So maybe they can target a wide
out in the next round, you know, and go for Yeah, yeah.
OK, so who who do you want to five?
Let me give me name. I know you mentioned styles and
downs and you mentioned the possibility of what you think
they could do in an ideal world. Your giants walk away with with
what players in the first round on Thursday night who I I want
Sony styles at #5 I mean want styles.
He seemed like he would be like the leader of the defense for
like 10 years. OK.
I think he could be that good. So OK, no, I I love Sony styles.
I think you can maybe, maybe maybe even trade down a slot or
two Maybe. But and and still get them And
then what will you want to receive for 10?
You want to go defense, defense, defense, offense, defense all
line. What was so let me hear the the
concept of positional addressing right.
I think I, I think I'd probably take a strong look at Spencer
for now, that offensive line and all the tenants.
You want to go all the wide. Out in the next round, yeah,
Yeah, there's going to be a couple.
I mean, some of those receivers are going to drop there.
James, thanks for the call here. I listen, this was just this was
a phenomenal move by the New York Giants.
It was just phenomenal. Now, I talked, I talked about
this yesterday where when I saw that they got the 10th overall
pick, I was I was absolutely stunned.
Like I hadn't been that surprised about something in the
sports world in a while. Really.
That's not hyperbolic. Like I really, I was like, they
got what they got the 10th pick. My goodness that it was on the
table for weeks. That's crazy.
And by the way, you know, as much as we focus from a Giants
perspective, what they get, of course, now you have to hit
that. You got to hit on the pick
there. Otherwise it sounds great.
Now you got a 10th overall pick for a really good player,
although that player is coming off a bad year.
Now you got to hit on the pick, which is the next thing here.
But I think it's also really good for Cincinnati.
You think about that division, if Dexter Lawrence is in shape
and Dexter Lawrence is buttoned up and ready to go, Think about
the quarterbacks, you know, in that division.
I don't know. I don't know what the I mean.
Is Aaron Rodgers going back to play Aaron Rodgers potential
like if he comes back to the Steelers, their left tackles got
issues, which means, you know, Aaron Rodger and even if they're
left tackles, fine. You know, you've got a 42 year
old quarterback that Dexter Lawrence going to be destroying.
I mean just so that's advantage there.
You think about the Browns. I mean you think about what he
can do in the AFC North. So it makes you know, we just
focus on the giants perspective, I think, but I actually like the
Bengals doing that as well because the Bengals defense is
so horrid. It's so bad.
You've got to give your quarterback a chance to do
something here with Joe Burrow. You have to, you got to maximize
every single year of a quarterback's prime, which is
all. Which is why I think about Aaron
Rodgers at the end of his well, not even at the end, but during
a chunk of his Green Bay tenure. He's like, dude, can you draft
me a wide receiver in the first round?
He was getting so pissed off. They never did it.
They didn't never devoted the resources there and it drove
them nuts. And I'm blame them, you know.
So I think that that's just to decide for what the Giants did.
Phenomenal move. And I do like it for Cincinnati
as well. Now what the Giants are going to
do aside from complicating The Jets world, because now you have
to think the Giants are going to strongly, if not flat out take a
receiver 10. You know, I mean now it's just
like, OK, OK, but I'm going to put The Jets aside.
So I think we're doing our mock draft tonight on The Jets
collective. So we're going to do the first
six because it's a Jets show. All right, myself and and Rich
and and Jake Aspen. So we're going to do the 1st 16
picks in the draft, right? So and, and no trades.
We're going to do it conventionally.
So you know, one Raiders 2, Jets, Cardinals 3, Tennessee 4,
Giants 5, blah, blah blah, Commander 7, so on and so forth.
I mean, I keep going back and forth like I was working on this
this morning before unleashed here and it's going to be a lot
of fun because it's it's in real time.
It's not like we're giving each other the picks where we we were
going to do that. And then on our text chain, I'm
like, yeah, I think we should do this live.
I think it really give a real feel war room feel.
Pardon me, to like draft night, the elements of uncertainty
where, you know, if so I'm going to be picking third with Arizona
and I think Jake is picking The Jets too.
I think it's rich one and then J2 me 3.
And then we'll just keep going in that order.
Like if Jake does something wacky, that's obviously going to
impact what I do and so on and so forth.
So I do think barring something wacky, that the draft absolutely
starts with Arizona. I mean, I think the Cardinals
could take an offensive line. And I've said this to you now,
that's not the sexy pick, but they need one.
And there's two horses who are going to go.
I certainly one of them is going to the top ten.
I think you might get 2 all right, one from Utah, 1 from
Miami, fat who was won, the other one from Miami.
So that's a possibility if they take an old line, but a three
will. Now Tennessee, it's like, OK,
and let's say The Jets take Risa 2.
Does Robert Sala, does he take Bailey?
He loves those edge, those edge rushers, right?
But I know we've got Jermaine Johnson in the trade.
Maybe you you bookend them with Bailey coming out of Texas Tech.
If the Cardinals were to kind of mess around to take Jeremiah
Love, which some people think that he could, that they could.
Well now, all right, well, now the Titans who could take
Jeremiah love as well. It impacts what they do, which
impacts what the Giants do. Because listen, I don't think
the Giants are taking Jeremiah Love.
I don't, but I I don't know if you can rule it out.
Like I'm not going to rule it out, but I I just I'm not
married to that. I think at the end of the day,
the Giants are walking away with a stud defender of five and a
receiver or an offensive line, but a 10.
That's what I think. The other variable, could they
go defense, defense? They could.
That would surprise me. I think The Jets are more
inclined to go defense, defense of two and 16 if they don't make
any trades. But it is going to be absolutely
awesome. I cannot wait for the NFL draft.
It's going to be on. All right, Jay, fire up that
call, buddy. Who do we have?
We've got Matt G. What up BT and?
Where's what up Matt? Where you calling from, buddy?
Where you at? I'm calling from new city,
Rockland County. Nice, right by New York Country
Club I I lost a lot of balls. Exit 11 off the Palisades.
Oh yeah, I've I've humiliated myself on that 10th hole in
front of people eating lunch many times.
Yes, well, now think about that. That used to be let me see hold
on, because they flipped it. So the it's now that's the
downhill to par 4. You got the little lake in front
of it. I always try to play a hero, go
for the green rather than laying up with the mid iron.
But then they flipped that now is that one or is that 10 now,
because I know they flipped it at some point.
What hole is that now? Did we lose Matt?
We we may have Matt. Hello, Matt.
Matt. You there?
Guess not. All right, Chris off the Charlie
in Pearl River, NY. No, I know Pearl River.
What's going on there, Charlie? I was just at Pearl River for
with cross country, cross country mortgage.
I did a big motivational speech there was great.
What's going on, bud? Yeah, it's a great little town.
Yeah, I'm originally from Bensonhurst.
Just wanted to say we're super proud of you as a fellow
Brooklynite. Thanks, man.
You're doing big things and we're glad to see you really
making it big, you know? Try to get going here.
I I, I appreciate that, Charlie. By the way, what, what is that?
St. Tom's Parish?
What parish? Yeah, that was actually, Yeah.
That's why I had my communion, my confirmation.
Saint Dominic's on 20th Ave. I think Bay Ridge Parkway around
there. I.
Got you. Listen, my my aunt and uncle and
my cousin Chris lived right around the corner basically for
a long time. So and right, right.
I used to go been playing the the public school.
Oh God, what number was that with the basketball courts?
And the what? What was 186?
That sounds right. There's a Settle junior high
school over there on Bay Parkway I think.
There's a candy, there's a candy school.
I haven't been there yet. Buried by the candy store.
Good memories, man. A lot of Sundays at my Aunt
Angie and Uncle Pat. What's going on, man?
So yeah, first up, I just wanted to get into the Giants a little
bit. What do you think the chances
are they can get maybe 2-2 defensive guys first?
Either Caleb Downs or maybe Styles with that first pick.
I think there's a hold, hold on, that's easy.
That's the easiest thing you can ask me here.
If they want one of those two guys, they can, they're going to
absolutely have access to one of those two guys at #5.
Now which one? I'm not 100% sure if I, I think
styles you can justify, even though I don't care about this
like positional value. Just get me a star and I think
both will be. I could see Styles going before
downs. I don't know that I would do
that, but if the Giants want one of those two dudes, they're
going to be able to get one of those two dudes.
Any shot at getting both? Probably not, right?
And I feel like. Styles 1st and then Caleb downs
maybe if he drops a little. Yeah, that's not, that's not
implausible. Let hold on.
Let's play it out. All right, so one, let me
actually play this out with you, man #1 because I think a week
ago I would have been like, well, a week ago they didn't
have the 10th pick, but that would have seemed unfathomable.
Mendoza won, let me say Reese. Two, let me say #3 I'm going to
go with I'm going to go with love to the Cardinals.
I'm going to go with love. I'm going to go love 4.
I'm going to say Bailey to the Titans.
I'm doing this with nothing in front of me.
So if I missed something #5 I think at that point, let's say
Sonny Styles, Giants 5. Why am I who's got the 6th pick?
I know, why am I forgetting? 6 commander, 7 Saints, 8 Chiefs
9 Who the hell was 60 Browns? I think right Browns are 6.
Browns go online. All right, let's play this out.
Browns go online. Let's say fanu from Utah. 7
Commanders go receiver. No, you know what I eight Saints
would go defense. I think the Saints would beat
you to downs. That would be the problem there.
But then you get a great receiver at 10 if you stick at
10, you know. All right, Charlie, thanks for
the call. So Jay, why is that happening?
Jay, can you help me out with that?
I mean, honestly, I I think we were just in a day and age of,
of poor technology using by potentially older members of the
community. Slightly older like I I.
Just think stream yards are, you know, it's a, it's a new fresh
format for people. I also think when you're driving
in your car, like I can see Charlie's back now.
But like, yeah, I think when you're driving in your car, I
think sometimes that causes some hiccups in the South.
That's. True.
OK, that's true. Yeah, very delicately phrased as
well. I like the way you didn't.
You get a very easily could have said old people don't know how
to work this thing but. Listen, I don't because it's not
solely you know, someone in the chat said it's not solely a
skill issue here. You know, I think there's also
some some great some higher powers at play.
I got you. We'll tighten it up.
Let's see so I've got Matt here he's trying to return.
Let's just make. Sure.
Yeah, yeah. Matt, can you hear us?
Yeah, I can hear you guys. Can you hear me?
I got you. So Matt, finish up that that
downhill or that par four with the Little Lake there, a New
York Country Club. Is that one now or is that 10?
I believe that that's ten. OK, that's 10.
Yeah, but like it's like awkward because people could be sitting
there eating lunch watching at the T box.
I'll tell you a quick story. I took my wife there once
because I had such a golf bug that I said, you know what, I
got to get her into it. It's the only way I could go on
Sundays and stuff, which ultimately was a mistake.
But I get up, we started on the back.
I probably hit 3 balls and right in front of about 10 people she
goes. I thought you were good at golf.
Oh. Jesus, are you serious?
I gotta get out of here. Yeah, this is now we're not
doing this. That's.
What are clubs? I mean, I went, I'm like, I, I
thought I had it all figured out.
I'm like, yeah, now I got it. I'll just bring her with me.
And now you play like, all the time.
It's actually a really good, but that's what Beningo did and it
worked for Joe. Yeah, I see him all the time.
He's I've, I played with him like twice at the Rivervale.
Yeah, I've played with him. I played with him the day of
Evan's wedding. I'll never forget it.
Are you serious? Yeah, he hits a ball.
You know, I purposely didn't say anything to him because I didn't
want to bother him. Like, I'm a huge fan.
I listen to him every day. At the end, I finally said
something. And then very casually, he hits
a ball. He looks at me, goes.
I hope Evan knows what he's doing, bro.
He don't know this girl too long.
Well, Evan's still married so it worked out well.
And by the way, since then, I think Joe's got 3 hole in ones.
Listen, I saw him play at least 2.
And listen, by no means am I critiquing somebody's swing, but
I have played. I haven't played with Joe in a
while, but I played with Joe at least three times maybe.
And you know, if you told me back then Joe was going to get
multiple aces, I would have been like, you got some good balances
there, huh, Joe? But good for him.
And he's having. No disrespect to Joe, because he
would always, he would always be on the air talking about golf.
Then that first day I get paired with him, like, oh, Jesus, guy's
going to be good. He's talking about how much he
plays. Then I see him, I see him tap a
ball about 20 yards on the ground.
They said, oh, all right, that's the kind of golfer.
Yeah, yeah. No, I exactly.
And that makes you feel better about your probably about your
swing. Yeah, I said, oh geez, I'm going
to get paired with this guy. He's probably a scratch golfer
the way Hawks, you know, it's always intimidating.
You play with a good golfer. Absolutely.
Well, that's why Matt, I'm like you, Matt, but This is why I
laid down the foundation. I just what I do, I get it all
out at the open like, hey, you know, hey, you know, obviously
some people will recognize me and if they do and then it's a
different conversation. But if they don't, you know, and
I know somebody striping it on the rain and I usually play with
my buddies. Like I very rarely go out and
play with anybody people I don't know, like otherwise it's not
it's not that fun, you know. So but but I will, you know, I
will lay the foundation. I will come up with the excuses.
You know, I used to play lefty. Now I'm playing right, but I
play, but I play quick. I'll keep it moving.
Let them know before they first see the swing.
What I always preface, absolutely.
I always preface with saying, yeah, I was a baseball player.
The swings a little different. It takes me a little, you know,
that's all I have to like tell them I'm a good athlete.
Like I can't have them watch me hit that.
So yeah, I always have the excuses ready.
I tell them if I'm, if I'm off, I'll pick it up, We'll go quick.
And yeah, I'm getting sidetracked there.
I was going to call you and tell you about my son's travel team
win too, but I feel like I'm taking up too much of your time
with them. I hear it.
How old is he? How you know?
I love that stuff. So my son is 6 playing on an 8 U
team. So he's playing up Jesus.
Yeah, he's he's good. You know, he's listen, he's he's
6. You know, he's playing with
eight-year olds. Kids his age are still doing
like coach pitch underhand this kids playing.
Wow. Competitive SO comes up last
night bases loaded, it was freezing out A-22 game and he
had a walk off walk and team mobbed them on the field and I
grabbed them aside. I said, I said, I said if you
and it was a very questionable pitch.
I said if that umpire called out of strike, you would have walked
home. Oh, let him know.
Let him know in. A good way let him know I said
dude 22 game bases loaded, a full count.
Like you got it. That pitch should be over your
head. If you're not swinging anything
close, you're you're chipping at it.
But now was it let's so this is your first child or no?
This is my second and he plays travel my older boy, my I have
two boys. My older guy is gonna be 9.
Listen, I love him to death. He's he's a he's a rec player.
He's not a travel player and I not gonna force him into that
you. Know I got you, but this this,
this is the one that you're you got some you got to hope for.
Oh, the Don, I got you, you know.
Even when he was a little kid, I put him up.
You know, I love Don Mattingly, too.
I'm like, no, he's a lefty. You're gonna be a lefty.
Oh yeah. Dude, it's awesome.
Wait till you start getting getting.
Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's it's, it's a little bit of
everything, but it's awesome. And I, well, it's my first.
Taste of it now because it's been all winter of practices and
clinics and as a parent, you're getting up at 7:00, you're
getting up at 8:00. Oh yeah.
So to finally be playing games and to like, I'm a coach, I'm on
the field like it's sick. I feel like I'm playing like
I'm, I'm more pumped up than the kids.
They got the walk up music. I'm like, oh, I'd do anything to
play right. Now I wish I could still play.
What travel team, by the way? Clarkstown stars.
OK, yeah, stars. So I don't know, maybe we'll
play you one day. We'll have to talk.
We, you know, we're a good program.
I love to talk the conversations I have at baseball fields.
You'd be, I mean, maybe you wouldn't be surprised, but it's
all the time. I love it.
It's. Like, way into it.
I'm texting the coaches at 11 at night like, well, if he pitches,
you know, And it's very strategic with the pitch count.
My wife. 'S like too, I know.
Yeah, my wife's like you've lost your mind.
She's like they're they're. I said yes, yes, I have, because
I can't do this and lose. You don't understand me.
I'm not even, you know what, let other callers call.
I don't want. I was going to call you and tell
you I've been with you the whole time.
If you've watched this Nick team all year, you kind of have the
sense that maybe they'll win around.
But you know, this isn't the team.
If you're a real basketball fan, you watch them.
You know what this team is? Yeah.
You know, I'm looking for evidence here, Matt, to the
contrary. I have not seen any all year.
So a little bit of everything, a little bit of golf, a little bit
of Beningo, a little bit of kids baseball, a little bit of I love
it, dude. Sorry, I sidetracked you, but
big fan been, you know, been calling you, listening to you
for like since I'm in high school so that I could call you
like this is is big deal for me, so I appreciate.
It me too, man. Thank you dude.
I appreciate it buddy. Thank you very much man.
Awesome man. It's good stuff.
Hey, listen. That was awesome, man.
Straight up, straight up little podcast interview right there.
Why not? No that that Joe story was
hilarious. I enjoyed that.
You going to walk home? If that would have been called
the OH. My God, that was funny.
And he was kidding around, but I know what he means.
Swing the bat, you know, swing the bat.
All right, I think I'm going to start wrapping up here, man.
We got Mets and the Yanks back to.
Work. We got one caller.
Is that more with you? All right, you know what?
Pop him up. I'm going to end it up after
this year. Cool.
Who do we have? Where is he at?
Go ahead. We've got Mike P from New York.
Mike P New York City. What's going on?
Mikey, How are you? What's going on, BT?
What up Mike? I got a question with the
Knicks. Like watching the game last
night was so frustrating because the office just fluctuates in a
way where it's not consistent. And like, I think it's all
because of coaching. I think this needs team needs a
coach that's an offensive minded coach.
Well, Mike Brown is. No, he is Mike.
You know that Mike. That's Mike Brown's background.
He's an offensive coach. But at times he doesn't use cat
properly in the game and it breaks me so much because cat
isn't the ultimate difference maker.
Honestly on the team, if he playing like a dog, they're
going to win basically. I don't know.
Well, I don't know what you think, Mike, hold on a second,
Mike. Mike, don't you think it goes
down to and I don't know the answer.
We can only, you know, guess here, but you know, it's not all
Mike Brown. I do think that cat and and I
was really hard on him this year, but I, I do think the last
20 or 30 games, like he really tried to kind of fit into this
new role. So I don't want to just keep
hammering the guy incessantly and and be unfair about this.
But you know, you got it. You got to drop some of that
critique at his doorstep as well.
No, you got to call for the Rock Man.
Let's go. Go get the ball.
Get the ball like this is dog time.
Playoffs is straight dog time like I'm.
Anthony. Mason and Charles Oakley and I
get it. Those guys, they were.
Derry. Judson my my favorite dude.
I met him in person like 10 years ago.
Oh. Larry.
Yeah, Larry, he's a cool dude. Yeah, he's cool.
He's cool. He's.
Cool, How about the and the Yankees tonight?
I always said, Yankee fan, the season doesn't begin until you
face one of your rivals. Yeah, yeah, but you got to admit
here, Mike, I mean, Yankees, Red Sox.
I mean, it's April, whatever. I don't even know what the day
like. Yankees, Red Sox.
Let's be honest. I mean, it has no juice right
now. None.
But those games, usually, even if the Sox are playing bad, I
think they'll still be up to play the game.
I do too. But honestly, I think Schittler,
Schittler is going to destroy them tonight.
I think heels going tonight, I think, I think heels tonight,
yeah, McLean for the Mets, heel for the Yanks, but Cams
definitely pitching in the series, yeah.
That's I know you heard about the death threats.
And. I just think he's going to go
out there and just shred them whenever he pitches against the
stock. He's a beast deal.
He's a beast man. He's the real deal.
Mike, you. Mike.
Thank you for the call. Cam Schlitter is the absolute
real deal. Oh, my God.
All right there, J Rod. Anything that we have to be
aware of here, buddy. What do we need to know?
What's going on? Shut.
Up. No, I mean, I think we're pretty
good. Great show.
We've got David here. Just real quick, what time is
that draft show you're doing with Jets Collective?
It is at 8. You know the good.
It's a good quote. Once you get that back up there,
Jay, if you can, that little splash thing there.
It's 8:00 PM tonight. Thank you.
It is 8:00 PM tonight. It's called The Jets Collective.
It's myself and Rich and Jake Asman, and it's once a week.
Eventually we'll crank it up to twice a week during the season,
but we'll do a mock draft tonight.
One through 16 will alternate pics, will obviously react to
Muji's press conference and it's an hour very interactive with
the the text and all the Super chats and all that stuff.
So go check it out, like and subscribe and hop in there.
Obviously do the same for this channel, like and subscribe it.
But tonight from 8:00 to 9:00. Previous weeks we've been 7 to
8, but you know, I know Jake is going to Pittsburgh.
He's doing a draft over at Mcfadden's if you guys want to
check that out. I know he's got stuff on on his
on the social, on the social media stuff if you guys want to
get into into the draft and hang out with Jake and then Rich Avi.
So we had to kind of work it around all three of our
schedules. So tonight worked out and 8:00
was better than 7. So usually it's 7:00 tonight at
8:00. So with that being said, again,
thanks to our sponsors, Sullivan Propane and Premio Sausage, let
us call it a day. Look at that boom, boom.
Let us call it a day. Let us get out.
Who knows, maybe we get an NFL trade today at some point.
Some more rumblings, I'm sure. Let's see if the Mets seas could
break that 11 game skid. Let's see what the Yankees have
in store for the Red Sox. And have an awesome, awesome
rest of your day, J Ron. I'll catch you later on.
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