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I'm the main problem. 
I'm the main problem. 

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Let's go full screen on Russell.
This is on Brand, a podcast 

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where we discuss the ideas and 
antics of 1 Russell Brand. 

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I'm Al Worth and every show I go
through an episode of stay free 

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with Russell Brand in order to 
dissect and debunk it. 

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And this week, well, we get to 
the interview that Russell 

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recently did with Piers Morgan 
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Tiniest bit of housekeeping up 
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Firstly, a minor correction. 
Last week I made fun of Kamala 

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Harris for having a picture on 
her website entitled Hero. 

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But what I didn't know, and a 
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pointed out, is that the hero 
picture is a common term in web 

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design for like the big picture 
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may explain it. 
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Kamala Harris having a picture 
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entirely believable. 
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the logical conclusion that it 
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thank you to the wonders who 
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Second, it would be strange not 
to say something, but friends of

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the pod Dan Friesen and Jordan 
Holmes over at Knowledge Fight 

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have decided to call it a day in
their coverage of Alex Jones. 

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After nearly a decade and more 
than 1000 episodes, they served 

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as an inspiration to this show 
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work they did in terms of both 
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information is all almost 
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Boys, you have earned yourselves
a little breaky. 4 stars. 

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Go home and tell your mother 
you're brilliant. 

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No, then with that other way, 
let's get into this week's show.

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As mentioned, we will be looking
at Russell's appearance on Piers

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Morgan Uncensored, and I do need
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the jump. 
I've seen a lot of discourse 

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praising Pierce for making 
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a lot of people saying oh I do 
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good wasn't it? 
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Piers Morgan deserves absolutely
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Russell, even if Russell did 
make a tit of himself. 

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At the end of the day, Russell 
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book, which he did several 
times, and in this world there 

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is no such thing as bad 
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While we may look at Russell and
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embarrassing, his audience will 
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sympathy and suggest he was set 
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exactly what happened. 
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in the headlines again, as is 
the fact he has a new book and 

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so it will boost sales. 
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would have been not to have 
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Russell doesn't need any help 
making a tit of himself, He does

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it every single week. 
Now, a couple of weeks ago I 

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described Piers Morgan as a 
failed rectal exam, and it's a 

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description I stand by, but 
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where I do actually need to give
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Specifically, those areas are 
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broadcasting abilities. 
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man's show is mostly made-up of 
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but when Piers Morgan puts a bit
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spent in journalism and 
broadcast media can really pay 

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off. 
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It is OK to accept that this 
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occurred where peers being 
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But he does a pretty good job of
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particular offering pushback 
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So let's get into the first clip
and it's Peers finding an old 

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quote from Russell back from 
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When I interviewed you, the GQ, 
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Oh yeah. 20, literally 20 years 
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It was March 2006. 
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Tottenham Court Road in London. 
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interviewed you. 
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was quite gushing. 
I said I assumed I'd find Brand 

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irritating, pointless and easy 
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But I was wrong. 
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outrageous and very, very funny.
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through his extraordinary life, 
a nonstop orgy of comedy, drugs,

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bulimia, hookers, foreign a bed,
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notches. 
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asked you halfway through, are 
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predator now that you don't 
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And you replied, yes. 
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I like to think of myself as a 
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After all, the most natural 
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do is fuck, isn't it? 
People want to do it, so all you

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have to do is remove all the 
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go through with it, like pride 
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You just have to unpick the 
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straight to bed with you. 
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game. 
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Because to me it sounds more 
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about how they manipulate women 
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to convince someone to sleep 
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want to sleep with you. 
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Russell is doing absolutely no 
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I am curious how much that will 
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later this year. 
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probably have found that quote 
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Russell's actually quite pleased
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All of us have the idea that, 
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ourselves that people are 
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Obviously the word hypocrite 
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Now just brick, you have an 
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I have an identity in public. 
And what I can hear there, man, 

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and it, it warms me is I was 
being 100% honest and I'm being 

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100% honest now. 
I'm not afraid of the truth. 

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So if justice is real, if 
telling the truth is how a 

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person is going to operate, I 
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I, I can still, I can feel that.
I mean 31, you know, it's that 

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sounds like a 19 year old 
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But I was stunted in many ways, 
like a lot of crackheads and 

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smackheads. 
You kind of formaldehyde 

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yourself in addiction some. 
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recovery and none of them were 
doing that, Russell. 

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Like, just as lack of maturity 
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scumbag, neither is being an 
addict. 

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There are plenty of addicts out 
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coercing women into sex and then
bragging about it. 

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This would be like Hitler being 
on trial and saying, well, I did

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do some pretty bad stuff. 
But you know, guys, I have 

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bipolar Ont. 
I was on a lot of drugs. 

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So, you know, it's, it's, it's 
unconvincing, is what I'm 

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getting at. 
And from here, Piers asks a 

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valid question. 
My question, I think looking 

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back on it and the lifestyle 
that you've talked about very 

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openly now looking back on that 
and saying, look, I was out of 

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control taking all these drugs, 
sleeping with all these whatever

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is how can you be sure that your
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reliable, is truthful? 
Most people who've slept with 

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thousands of women and taken 
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this incredibly hedonistic 
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I would think if I interviewed 
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what year it was, would struggle
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Can you be certain if you're 
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completely sound accurate? 
Do you remember half this stuff 

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well? 
Yes, I can be honest. 

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It's a relevant question, isn't?
It of course it is. 

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Yes, I can be honest and I am 
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And I think what's an important 
distinction is that I was a drug

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addict prior to becoming famous.
So that was a very different 

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rhythm and time. 
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has it made you a more 
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And even then I objected to the 
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persecutory. 
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amplification of looking for 
something with intention. 

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Now, I don't particularly think 
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He's leaving plenty of room for 
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and meander about. 
And in doing so, Russell has 

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managed to find himself a rake 
and step on it with such force 

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that he's trying to argue 
predation is just looking for 

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something with intent. 
You know, as one would search 

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for their car keys or their 
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Famously, that's how leopards do
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They're just wondering about the
plains of Africa going. 

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Now where did I I leave that? 
Found it. 

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Here's that gazelle for me to 
kill and eat. 

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Yeah, that's that's how 
predators work. 

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Anyway, after a bit of a ramble,
he does finally answer the 

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question. 
But the reason I remember is 

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because I remember because I was
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because the whole thing was very
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I have a, I have a good, I have 
a good memory, and particularly.

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Obviously this is something I've
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You you were clean from 2002. 
December the 13th 2002 is the 

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data got. 
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to 99, so there must have been 
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Well, without wanting to get 
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criminal matter, that's not 
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And in the variation from that 
generality, there are other 

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indicators that make it clear 
that my memory is reliable. 

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So my memory can be trusted 
because I have a good memory, 

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including when I was off my tits
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Forgive me if I remain 
unconvinced. 

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Like, even without a boatload of
drugs, I will. 

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Eyewitness testimony can be 
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Like memories have been shown to
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time. 
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works against the victims of 
sexual assault, particularly if 

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there's a lack of DNA evidence. 
And it's part of why only one in

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seventy reported rapes in the UK
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Russell's case, of course. 
Well, that's a little bit 

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different because there is a 
clear established pattern, many,

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many victims and a substantial 
amount of evidence already 

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available to the public, let 
alone what will come out as 

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trial. 
Whereas his defense is, hey, I 

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have a good memory. 
So now we move to the subject of

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COVID-19, and Russell almost 
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evasive. 
How much of A medical crisis was

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it indeed, And what was the role
in media if we step back for a 

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moment and watch what happened 
during? 

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Many millions of people died. 
Who was vilified? 

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Who was condemned? 
What are the excess deaths now? 

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Who's controlling these 
statistics that everywhere you 

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look, Piers, there's such 
astonishing anomaly? 

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You said many millions of people
died from COVID, do you? 

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I'm so uncertain about what 
happened at that time that I 

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believe that I use it mostly now
as a kind of lens to look at how

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disgusting our culture has 
become, how appalling, how 

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condemnatory. 
But why are you avoiding my 

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question? 
Because of the. 

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Because I have a better one. 
Because I have a better one. 

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That's a better one. 
Who believes, even for an 

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instant, that the function of 
government and media is to 

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protect us and take care of us 
anymore? 

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Yeah, that's not a better 
question. 

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It it just isn't. 
In fact, it's pretty irritating.

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Like if someone asked me where I
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responded, who among us trusts 
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capitalism, I think I would very
quickly be eating alone, and 

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rightly fucking so. 
Russell, dancing around direct 

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questions will become a little 
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And the COVID part goes for a 
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So let's jump to the middle 
portion of it, where Pierce asks

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a perfectly valid hypothetical 
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During the COVID period. 
Had you been Prime Minister? 

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I get it. 
I get. 

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It how do you know? 
How do you been Prime Minister 

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when the COVID pandemic broke 
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What would you have done? 
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do is I would immediately just. 
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in Italy, in Lombardy, they're 
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day. 
I know, I remember, we remember.

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ripping through as it did 
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example. 
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Hazmat suits in China that 
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stories of people dying in the 
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That's sort of the origin of it 
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broken out and it's clearly 
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quickly and it's clearly going 
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I have an answer. 
You as the Prime Minister, what 

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would you do? 
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of Prime Minister and executive 
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and corruptible and it's one of 
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be addressed. 
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means government by some 
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could be really, really helpful 
in a true democracy. 

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What I believe should have 
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because that's really what 
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pandemic period, is that we 
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variety of views, including the 
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shut down and censored from the 
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experts like EG Peter McCulloch,
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So he would have been taking 
advice from the widely 

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discredited COVID conspiracy 
theorists cosplaying as experts 

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while selling their own lines of
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would listen. 
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to be Mayor of London, I don't 
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encouraging take and otherwise 
he would seemingly dissolve the 

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office of Prime Minister in the 
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Which, listen, there are some 
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thing, but there are many 
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UK, it just isn't terribly 
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Collective leadership usually 
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Plus, over here we vote for a 
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for a person. 
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course have a leader deciding 
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leader is ultimately replaceable
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in power. 
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corruptible than, say, the 
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United States. 
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Russell likes to make this 
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general, but never seems to 
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presidency. 
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he'd lose his entire audience if
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And what's most fun about that, 
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is the most brazenly corrupt 
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President in recorded history. 
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next clip. 
Pierce has in the past offered 

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mayor culpas about how hard line
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particularly on the subject that
everyone should get vaccinated 

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and that the vaccinated won't 
spread COVID and the vaccines 

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prevent, you know, transmission 
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Basically, this is because he 
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given at the time when 
information was changing pretty 

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quickly. 
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offering this to appease his 
more conspiratorial audience 

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members. 
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COVID-19 vaccine does appear to 
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in nearly 40% of cases, 
according to one study, even 

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though that's not what the 
vaccine was ever designed for. 

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But hey, let's not allow reality
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good right wing talking point, 
now shall we? 

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Regardless, this next clip does 
highlight a stark difference 

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between Piers and Russell. 
Why we're different is this I 

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still believe that the vaccine 
saved millions of lives, a lot. 

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Of people don't. 
No, I don't. 

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You don't, but I do. 
Good. 

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OK, that's good. 
That will be something you'll 

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potentially be adjusting in the 
future, Piers. 

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And when you do, you may have 
another Mia culpa to offer to 

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your audience because it seems 
significant to me that that 

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crisis benefited some very 
powerful interests. 

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Granted, further governmental 
powers instantiate the ability 

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to govern at a global level. 
Reveal just how willing people 

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would be to take a medicine of 
concoction. 

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Let's call it a little more 
accurately, that it seems like 

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it might be extremely 
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infertility, miscarriage, 
myocarditis, and that that was 

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something that was undertaken 
with a degree of complicity at 

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least. 
Do you? 

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Believe in vaccines generally. 
I have the kind of questions 

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that anyone that's paying 
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To the measles. 
A little outbreak of measles 

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recently. 
Even RFK was giving evidence 

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yesterday and said he absolutely
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vaccine. 
In fact he said I'm not anti vax

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at all. 
In fact he said I support most 

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vaccines. 
You had legitimate questions 

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about the COVID vaccine because 
the speed at which that was 

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designed in your case. 
Are you anti all vaccines? 

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No, I. 
Don't or which vaccines do you 

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accept are are good? 
Calm down and slow down. 

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It's a serious question. 
I understand it's a serious 

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question. 
Of course it is. 

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But I want you to calm down and 
slow down because within in 

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which case and yoke yourself 
from the conditioning of the 

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world you've found yourself in. 
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Chomsky, which isn't the best 
look. 

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And don't worry everyone, 
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Russell will very shortly come 
to regret being such a 

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condescending prick to someone 
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Calm down and slow down, indeed.
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refusing to answer whether he 
believes that vaccines work 

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generally. 
And he described the Covic 19 

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vaccine as a concoction that 
might be deleterious to people's

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health on mass and is, you know,
killing people via things like 

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myocarditis. 
He's been doing this a while 

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now, but it bears repeating. 
The things he's citing have 

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almost uniformly been symptoms 
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Yes, the vaccine itself does and
has harmed A fractional portion 

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of the population because that 
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In every single case there are 
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effects, but they are often 
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you know, one in every 100,000. 
It is very much the trolley 

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problem played out in real time,
where we as a society have 

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allowed for the potential 
sacrifice of a tiny number of 

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people in order to ensure the 
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remainder. 
It can feel brutal, but it is 

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ultimately for the common good. 
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and understand that long COVID 
carries many horrendous and 

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debilitating symptoms, you first
have to believe that COVID-19 is

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real. 
But but by answering the 

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question in the way that I want 
to, I can, I think, tell you a 

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lot. 
I'm not saying educate you. 

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I'd never be so bold. 
Very happy to be educated. 

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But that's not like my 
intention, and that's not what I

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believe is happening. 
I'd like I would like you to 

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educate me. 
This is what I think. 

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I believe in maximum personal 
sovereignty and freedom. 

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I believe that if you empower 
individual individuals and 

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individual communities to the 
maximum that you will get, if 

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not better results at least. 
They won't save them from a 

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killer virus. 
Well, the I? 

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As it turns out, there wasn't 
one. 

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Well, of course there was. 
OK. 

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I would say this is what I'll 
do. 

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Our best evidence suggests 
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pretty significant and some 
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Believe people personally who 
died from. 

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It Yeah, Well, check out the 
statistics around people dying 

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from vaccines, Piers, because 
that's much, much, much more 

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important and significant, not 
least because the people that 

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died from the vaccines were 
doing what the government told 

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them to do. 
Can you think of any people? 

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Can you think of any vaccine in 
history where people haven't 

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died from side effects? 
Look, here's. 

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Did you know any? 
Yeah, this is very much got the 

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vibe of a student who hasn't 
done his homework being given a 

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pop quiz in front of the entire 
class. 

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And it turns out being loud and 
confident about something like 

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proclaiming the COVID-19 doesn't
exist doesn't play terribly well

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when the person interviewing you
exists in reality and not the 

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far right media sphere. 
Had Russell said that in front 

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of almost any of his regular 
guests, you know, Tucker 

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Carlson, Jordan Peterson, 
Candace Owens, right, he would 

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have been, yes, handed, they 
would have gone. 

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Well, yeah, of course COVID 
doesn't exist. 

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Hell, even Joe Rogan might go 
along with such a thing. 

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But say that to somebody who 
isn't there to profit from the 

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same grift, and you quickly wind
up in trouble because you don't 

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know anything and have just been
talking shit for the last six 

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years. 
Finally, Russell does sort of 

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answer the question, but not 
before some significant protest.

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So for me, when you ask me a 
question, what would you do if 

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you're Prime Minister or what 
vaccines like in a way, who 

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knows who cares? 
What I believe in is that the 

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systems themselves, if not 
radically re evaluated urgently 

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immediately to be in alignment 
with some true values, and I 

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mean the values of God. 
However, you understand God, and

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you know how I do. 
If that doesn't take place, 

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pretty soon we're going to be 
living in hell or something akin

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to it. 
And many people already are. 

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The creeping shores of hell are 
all around us, everywhere. 

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And so why would you spend this 
time sort of pressing me on how 

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much I know about vaccines or 
this vaccine or that thing? 

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Only because you talked about it
so much and it's a simple 

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question. 
You either you're either someone

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who believes in vaccines as a 
concept or you don't. 

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It's not a difficult question, 
you've just chosen to take 20 

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minutes to avoid answering it. 
I've not chosen to. 

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I've like pointed out that by 
sort of focusing on it, it, it 

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reveals a sort of modality of 
not trying to detect what 

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someone's actually attempting to
say. 

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And you know, and like with a 
vaccine or an illness, the 

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simple answer is I would look at
the risks versus benefits and 

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get the best advice I could and 
make a decision based on that 

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and would suggest everyone does 
that. 

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And I don't think medical 
matters should be enforced. 

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Global legal issue and when 1 is
out of interest. 

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You you don't have to answer 
this question if you think it's 

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too. 
Personal, I know that no one has

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to answer. 
It I'm not, I'm not so, but 

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you've got three young children.
Are they being vaccinated at 

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all? 
I feel like you're just sort of 

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sniffing around for headlines 
and I just, I'm not really not 

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worth it. 
I'm really not. 

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I have heard Russell in the 
recent past boast about the fact

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that none of his children are 
vaccinated. 

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I don't know to what extent that
is accurate, given that it's 

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come out of Russell's mouth, but
it does tickle me that he's 

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refused to answer it here. 
I also, somewhat foolishly, did 

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not isolate that clip at the 
time, but I'm going to go back 

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and see if I can find it 
because, yeah, he has definitely

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fucking said that. 
Otherwise, that clip there 

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should give a sense of Russell's
vibe. 

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For most of this interview, he 
very much argues, hey, why are 

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you asking me all these 
questions about me? 

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We should be talking about the 
bigger picture here, which 

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firstly is not how an interview 
works, especially when it's 

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about your latest autobiography 
and you are the subject matter 

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of the book. 
But secondly, he's landed 

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himself on a bit of a logical 
trap with it. 

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See in saying you know, what do 
I think about vaccines or COVID?

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Who knows, who cares? 
He's absolving himself of all 

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responsibility regarding the 
many, many COVID and anti vax 

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conspiracy theories he's signed 
on to over the last six years 

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with and basically all of them. 
And, and the reason he has more 

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responsibility than most is that
at his peak he was yelling about

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this nonsense and positioning 
himself as an authority on it to

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millions of people on a weekly 
basis. 

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Now however, hey, who knows? 
Who cares? 

454
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,800
It doesn't matter what I say or 
think. 

455
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600
Which sure thing, you fucking 
weasel. 

456
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,400
Except he then simultaneously 
wants to be taken seriously for 

457
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200
his opinions on political 
systems at large. 

458
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,840
Which means, once again, 
positioning himself as an 

459
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040
authority who deserves to be 
listened to. 

460
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,720
And you can't do both. 
Either. 

461
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,880
Stand by what you've said, stand
by all your conspiracy theory 

462
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,880
bullshit, and consider yourself 
someone who should be listened 

463
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760
to as Piers probably tears you 
to pieces. 

464
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,080
Or it doesn't matter what you 
say or think and you should shut

465
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560
the fuck up about things you 
clearly don't know or 

466
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,680
understand. 
Pick one. 

467
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,280
You don't get to do both now 
from here. 

468
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,640
Russell gets offended at the 
idea that he thinks Alex Jones 

469
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,240
is great right before he talks 
at length about how great he 

470
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,440
thinks Alex Jones is. 
You've sighted 2 people where 

471
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,520
you think the pendulum is 
swinging the right way, Alex 

472
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,920
Jones and David Icke. 
Alex Jones had a billion dollar 

473
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,080
one second. 
Hang on. 

474
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,680
But you're already 
misrepresenting my view. 

475
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,600
Once again, you're doing it 
live. 

476
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,600
What I'm saying is Alex Jones, 
I'm using them deliberately to 

477
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,120
demonstrate the idea of an 
extreme and over time the 10 of 

478
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,560
more people having access to 
information is we're moving 

479
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000
closer to that. 
I'm not saying even though, you 

480
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,400
know, dear old David Icke would 
back this up to his death, but 

481
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,320
the Queen's actually a lizard or
whatever, but he was sure right 

482
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,560
about them paedophiles. 
Of course it's wrong that Alex 

483
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,800
Jones said that thing about 
Sandy Hook that's terrible and 

484
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,160
those parents must have grieved 
all the harder for that, the 

485
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,920
terrible insensitivity. 
But let's not forget that he 

486
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,280
somehow knew that them twin 
towers were going down. 

487
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,920
Let's pay attention to where 
he's correct and in fact, what 

488
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,440
are we doing? 
He knew the Twin Towers were. 

489
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,480
Going Oh my God this video 
footage of him in 99. 

490
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,120
There's a guy he's going to 
blow. 

491
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,280
Up the twin Tower. 
Everyone's seen it. 

492
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800
The relevant audience know now 
where you are and where this is 

493
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,840
the. 
Complete nonsense, no. 

494
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,760
It's not there's. 
Osama bin Laden tried to blow up

495
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,520
the World Trade Centre. 
Yeah, but the the genesis of 

496
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600
that whole story is that 
whatever he said, he had no 

497
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,280
intimate knowledge of any al 
Qaeda plot to take down the twin

498
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,600
towers. 
What had happened is that 

499
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,800
several years before bin Laden 
had You are right now right? 

500
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,040
In this moment, advocating for 
the worst impulses in humanity, 

501
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,360
no. 
You are no. 

502
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,880
Make me think that Alex Jones 
knew that the 9/11 was going to 

503
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,360
happen. 
He knew it as a fact. 

504
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,240
He had been given information 
that meant Al Qaeda were going 

505
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,560
to take it down. 
Bullshit. 

506
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,120
Bullshit. 
Indeed. 

507
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,280
Piers is bang on the money here.
Alex Jones has long maintained A

508
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,840
relatively scattershot approach 
when it comes to conspiracy 

509
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,920
theories, and if you fling 
enough spaghetti out of wall, 

510
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,840
eventually something is going to
stick. 

511
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,760
So when you take a guy who tried
to blow up the World Trade 

512
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,800
Center and keep saying he's 
going to blow up the World Trade

513
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,160
Center, it isn't exactly a feat 
of fucking Nostradamus to say, 

514
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,120
hey, that guy over there is 
going to blow up the World Trade

515
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,760
Center. 
Nonetheless, Russell has been 

516
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,480
listening to Alex Jones for so 
long he genuinely considers Alex

517
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,960
to be some kind of shaman or 
prophet. 

518
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,360
It's like when you do the trick 
of pulling a coin from behind a 

519
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,640
child's ear and give it to them.
It's impressive to the child 

520
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,480
because they don't know how the 
trick works, plus you just gave 

521
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,560
them something they wanted. 
In Russell's case, he doesn't 

522
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,480
know how anything works and what
he wants is a juicy conspiracy 

523
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,200
theory and an easy way of 
explaining the world. 

524
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Meanwhile, Alex is laughing all 
the way to the bank while this 

525
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,360
this asshole furthers the Alex 
Jones Was Right mythos. 

526
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,600
Next, Pierce wants to quiz 
Russell on some of the beliefs 

527
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,120
he used to have and how they've 
changed quite rapidly over the 

528
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,400
last few years. 
Specifically, he wants to ask 

529
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,400
about vegetarianism and veganism
and the fact that Russell now 

530
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,360
eats meat. 
But Russell gets distracted. 

531
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,160
Take vegetarianism, right You 
became a vegetarian at age 14, 

532
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,120
after you're influenced by The 
Smiths album Meet His Murder. 

533
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,080
Man, this is government water. 
Can I have some non government 

534
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,200
water please out of a bowl? 
Because you know, like I don't 

535
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,640
want to sound like a conspiracy 
theorist, not Piers Morgan where

536
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,320
everything's underlined with 
absolute truth, but the efficacy

537
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,880
of those vaccines, you know it 
could I get bottled water? 

538
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,040
That's not directly from the not
to be difficult someone you 

539
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,640
know. 
OK. 

540
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,680
Yeah, Russell is concerned about
the quality of tap water in the 

541
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,520
US, Not because of places like 
Flint, MI, where up until a few 

542
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,880
years ago the water was 
literally poisonous. 

543
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600
No, no, Russell is concerned 
that the government are putting 

544
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600
chemicals in the water, 
presumably to control people. 

545
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,160
He unfortunately doesn't 
elaborate on it, and Pierce 

546
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,840
doesn't ask specifically, you 
know, what the problem might be.

547
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,480
But yeah, I strongly suspect 
it's likely in the Alex Jones 

548
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,160
vein of the turning the frogs 
gay, that that kind of thing. 

549
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,640
So Russell will happily drink 
methylene blue, take ivermectin 

550
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440
and down a multitude of 
supplements, live in front of 

551
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920
his audience, but he won't drink
water from a tap. 

552
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,760
His priorities are interesting. 
If anyone's wondering what 

553
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,480
Russell's answer was to the fact
that he now eats meat. 

554
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,360
Basically his wife was having 
lamb one day and he really 

555
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,920
wanted some. 
And then someone said to him, 

556
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,400
hey Russell, it's them or us, 
It's them or us. 

557
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Which no it isn't. 
Like if you don't kill and eat 

558
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,160
that lamb, it's going to become 
a sheep and have a happy sheep 

559
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,840
life. 
Mooching about a field and 

560
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520
eating grass, It's not going to 
hunt you down and kill you. 

561
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,040
This isn't an existential 
battle. 

562
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Well, it is for the sheep. 
Actually, tofu is pretty great. 

563
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Anyway, on to the next change in
beliefs. 

564
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240
And climate change is up next. 
Climate change. 

565
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,920
Don't just shout. 
Is that what we're? 

566
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,680
Is this what we're reduced to? 
What's happened if you're 

567
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800
disengaged? 
No, no, just in your book 2014 

568
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,280
book Revolution, you call for a 
revolution in big corporations, 

569
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,440
existing political and economic 
systems collaborative with Naomi

570
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Klein saying ditch capitalism, 
save the planet or ditch the 

571
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,200
planet and save capitalism. 
And you wanted people to take 

572
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,920
down massive corporations like 
Exxon to save the planet. 

573
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:21,000
But since 2023, you've shifted 
it appears to be more to towards

574
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240
climate change being a lot of 
nonsense. 

575
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,760
What do you feel? 
I no longer believe that the 

576
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,560
state in any form is capable of 
meaningfully and in good grace 

577
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,120
representing the will of the 
people. 

578
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,680
So any edict that comes out of 
there, be very skeptical and in 

579
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,360
fact, always investigate what 
the conclusions they draw are. 

580
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,480
For example, climate change is 
the example you've selected. 

581
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,520
Just interrogate what their 
proposals are, look at the 

582
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,320
proposals coldly and then 
consider, do you think this is 

583
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,400
because of climate change or is 
it because they want to? 

584
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Do you believe climate change is
real? 

585
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,240
Ideas. 
I actually similar to vaccines. 

586
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,400
I'm not trying to sit on the 
fence here. 

587
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,040
I would say like, I don't know, 
because everything is possible. 

588
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880
No, I've heard that there are 
intergalactic influences on, 

589
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,760
what's that brilliant man's 
name, Randall Carlson says. 

590
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Like, like even sort of, there 
can be influence in our 

591
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,680
environment that goes way beyond
human human causes. 

592
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,240
OK, so it's space stuff again. 
Yep, that's where we are, 

593
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Russell. 
Russell doesn't want to sit on 

594
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520
the fence, and so instead he 
will merrily rattle off even the

595
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640
most absurd argument against 
doing anything to fix the 

596
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,960
climate crisis we find ourselves
in. 

597
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
And for the rest of the time, 
well, if the government says 

598
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,320
anything, don't trust it. 
Unless it's Trump, of course. 

599
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,680
He gets a pass because reasons. 
So Pierce says to Russell, 

600
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,800
basically you're very anti 
establishment in a blanket sort 

601
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,480
of way, but have no ideas of how
to fix anything, which is a 

602
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,000
critique I've long agreed with. 
And Russell has an answer. 

603
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,160
He has a response to this 
except, well, he he really does 

604
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,320
want some water. 
Firstly, find faith and 

605
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360
integrity in yourself. 
Do whatever you can, Pray, find 

606
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,320
God. 
Secondly, we cannot have systems

607
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,920
that prioritise the 
centralisation of power, whether

608
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,400
that's representative democracy 
or this global commercialism. 

609
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240
But what would you do? 
These use the technology that we

610
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,840
currently have. 
All right. 

611
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Oh, good. 
This is the bit I wanted to get 

612
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,280
to. 
Can I have a glass of war? 

613
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,880
I mean, it's an Associated 
Press. 

614
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Well, they're not under any 
obligation to give us. 

615
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Oh, I. 
See. 

616
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Well, actually this guy, my mate
Jake, we. 

617
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Are trying to find something. 
They're not our servants, no. 

618
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Absolutely. 
Hold on a minute. 

619
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,360
They don't. 
They don't all work for us. 

620
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,840
We're just hiring their studios.
No, I know that and I've, you 

621
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,720
know, I've, I think I've 
established quite good. 

622
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Report. 
We should be cognizant they're 

623
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,520
not. 
But no with my mate Jake though,

624
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,680
who's over there who actually is
working for me. 

625
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Well, Jake can get you 1. 
Directing who I'm directing it 

626
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,560
to. 
And also there was one or two 

627
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,240
other people. 
So it's not, just to be clear, 

628
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,040
I'm not sort of like going, 
well, get me some water man, I'm

629
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,920
a Reuters. 
AP that they should they should 

630
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720
get you a nice bottle of water. 
Well, I just thought that the 

631
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,960
facility itself might have 
amidst its many benefits water. 

632
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Thank you so much are so kind 
was the obligation crossing 

633
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,440
camera crossing the floor see 
Thank you very much. 

634
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,320
I really do appreciate that 
glass of water. 

635
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Would you like some? 
Don't be. 

636
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Proud. 
I'm good man, I like the. 

637
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,160
Type you like the government 
water love. 

638
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
It yeah, no problem, even if it 
kills me. 

639
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,760
I can't keep drinking the 
government water Piers. 

640
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000
I can't keep taking the. 
Actually, the water is some of 

641
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,720
the cleanest in the world, but 
you know that. 

642
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Look, you're you're a very 
argumentative and obstreperous 

643
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,920
individual. 
Not at all, I just like to 

644
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,040
you've. 
Even argued with that. 

645
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,520
I like to challenge people. 
They are in New York City, for 

646
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,240
anyone wondering, which 
apparently has some of the 

647
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,160
highest quality, safest and best
tasting municipal water in the 

648
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,360
US. 
Of course, that little 

649
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,200
distraction also gave Russell 
another full minute of not 

650
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,280
having to answer the question. 
As for the studio therein, Piers

651
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Morgan records his show at The 
Associated Press building, where

652
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,160
he hires a studio out. 
After this interview, Russell 

653
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,440
went to great lengths to 
describe the AP building as both

654
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,560
Orwellian and Kafkaesque in its 
design and security features. 

655
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Because he is a pretentious 
Dick, Russell continues, not 

656
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,679
really answering the question, 
and so Pierce asks him another 

657
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,960
one before Russell immediately 
tries to avoid answering that 

658
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,520
question as well. 
What kind of Christian are you? 

659
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,880
I'm like a like a kind of 
Christian that has to hang by a 

660
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,239
thin thread of faith knowing 
that I am broken, that you are 

661
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,719
broken. 
Do. 

662
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080
You have a denomination. 
Or not I why I was asking? 

663
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,520
No, I'm very. 
It's not an allegation, I'm just

664
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,480
asking. 
Everything is another. 

665
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:44,840
I don't. 
Do you? 

666
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,000
If you don't mind me saying 
you're was? 

667
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,760
Everything OK in that interview 
we did in 2006? 

668
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,120
But it's, you know, you are 
slightly hypersensitive to that 

669
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,239
kind of thing. 
I think because you don't really

670
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,200
do many into if I'm on it, you 
don't do this is the first. 

671
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,400
If you've done with any Brit, 
for example, since the 

672
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,640
allegations, I'm grateful to you
for doing it, but you are 

673
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,880
slightly hypersensitive to 
anyone challenging you because 

674
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,160
most of the media you do, you 
don't really get challenged. 

675
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,480
I don't mind being challenged 
and I want to be challenged 

676
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,080
actually and I like being 
challenged. 

677
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,920
We will see further on in this 
interview just how much Russell 

678
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,480
likes to be challenged, but it 
is accurate to say that Russell 

679
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,840
hasn't really been in a hard 
hitting or challenging interview

680
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,240
for the last six years or more. 
And prior to that, he was still 

681
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,600
masquerading as a lefty. 
So you'd probably be looking at 

682
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,200
around, you know, 2018 when he 
was arguing with Candace Owens, 

683
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,320
which would make this interview 
here probably the first actual 

684
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,960
challenge Russell Russell has 
had since he became a far right 

685
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,400
conspiracy theorist douchebag. 
In case anyone was wondering why

686
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,680
it doesn't seem to be going well
for him. 

687
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,160
This is a man who was completely
unprepared to answer basic 

688
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,720
questions, let alone be 
challenged in any way. 

689
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,320
There is a part of me that loves
his answer to the Christianity 

690
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,120
question though. 
You know, it'd be like someone 

691
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000
asking me, hey, what? 
What kind of musician are you 

692
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,120
and me saying? 
Well, I'm the kind of musician 

693
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,680
who really values the notes, you
know. 

694
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,440
OK, but what instrument do you 
play? 

695
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Well, aren't we all an 
instrument of some kind? 

696
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,080
It's just, it's so intensely and
unnecessarily evasive. 

697
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,320
Though for Russell it is a 
little bit necessary because he 

698
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,520
doesn't want to have to pick a 
denomination and piss off half 

699
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,760
his audience and potentially 
lose money. 

700
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,320
So to you and I, it's a simple 
question. 

701
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040
To him, it's it's an 
interrogation of why he's such a

702
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,120
slippery prick. 
And Russell knows this and most 

703
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,200
likely Piers knows this as well,
though obviously I don't have 

704
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440
that confirmed. 
Now from here they get into a 

705
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,280
little heated moment as to why 
Russell is so sensitive, which 

706
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,480
ultimately comes down to stop 
asking me questions about myself

707
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,960
and ask me about how we should 
change the world before Pierce 

708
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,720
asks Russell about his Bible. 
Now Russell went off on one 

709
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,320
again and Pierce asks again 
about the Bible. 

710
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,720
And from there we we got the 
most viral clip of Russell in 

711
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,160
quite some time. 
That was not the one you took 

712
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,040
into court. 
You're the very one, OK? 

713
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600
What was your thinking of taking
it into court and what you were 

714
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,440
seeing looking at some passages?
What were the relevant passages 

715
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,240
viewed? 
All right. 

716
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Thank you for asking me. 
Thank you, that didn't hurt. 

717
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,800
A little bit. 
Such a baby. 

718
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,800
It was this from As I Am. 
You're right. 

719
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,760
Beer did say, you know, be 
chilled. 

720
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,320
Sometimes I lose the chill man, 
It's pretty. 

721
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:52,840
It's this. 
They don't like that, do they? 

722
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,280
In the old gallery. 
But remember, you just said it's

723
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,360
a hired spot. 
This is from Isaiah. 

724
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Excuse me? 
It 

725
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:43,630
says here 
the word that the verse that I 

726
00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:49,590
was looking at that day was not 
this. 

727
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:53,280
I can't actually, I can't 
actually find the verse that I 

728
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640
had that day, but this is good 
enough. 

729
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,000
The moment where Piers does a 
full gym from the office look to

730
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,360
camera is pure comedy gold. 
Were this a bit someone had 

731
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:11,400
written, I would have no notes. 
See, this is the other variation

732
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,320
of a child who hasn't done their
homework. 

733
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Oh, I didn't do it. 
I just. 

734
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,400
I can't seem to find it right 
now. 

735
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,440
Hang on, let me fumble around in
my bag for a while until 

736
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,720
eventually actually you let me 
sit down to cap it off, after 

737
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,720
this ad and Russell was roundly 
mocked, he posted a video to X 

738
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:33,080
saying I found it, Piers, and he
reads a different Bible verse. 

739
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,000
And it's all just, it's very, 
very sad. 

740
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,200
Delightful as that moment is, 
for those of us who think 

741
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Russell Brand is a dipshit, put 
yourself in the position of one 

742
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,080
of his audience members because 
viewed in a different light, you

743
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,880
might think, well, it is 
difficult to perform under 

744
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,280
pressure when you're, you know, 
suddenly put on the spot. 

745
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,960
And you might find yourself 
treating that moment with a lot 

746
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,800
more sympathy. 
And, oh, I haven't actually been

747
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,400
keeping up with Russell that 
much. 

748
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,320
Oh, he has a new book out, does 
he? 

749
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,360
Oh, and it's about Christianity.
Well, I love Christianity. 

750
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Quick, let me go and buy that 
book from Tucker Carlson's 

751
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,960
website. 
Again, it's a delightful moment 

752
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,680
of schadenfreude, but it really 
has only served to benefit 

753
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,880
Russell by keeping his name in 
the headlines and on Tiktok for 

754
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,360
a few extra days, which is why 
this conversation should never 

755
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,920
have happened. 
And as the cherry on top, 

756
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Russell has actually turned this
moment into a bit of a meme, 

757
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,320
filming moments of himself 
trying to find a passage in a 

758
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,040
book and then saying what you 
should read. 

759
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,880
Is my new book out now? 
Right. 

760
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,960
He's fully just turned it into 
advertising for himself now. 

761
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Then after Russell reads his 
Bible passage, he he goes into 

762
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,320
the same sort of calm voice that
he used to do meditations with, 

763
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,560
you know, back when he was still
pretending to be, you know, the 

764
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,680
kind of Yogi kind of guy. 
And he continues that voice for 

765
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,440
a while here. 
You're fallen, Piers. 

766
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,200
I'm fallen. 
We will participate in this 

767
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,520
world in a fallen way. 
And I reckon the reason me and 

768
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:09,720
you both love Bear Grylls in 
spite of vows, sort of, I don't 

769
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:13,880
know whatever this chemistry is,
is because he is sincere and he 

770
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,000
demonstrates Christ. 
And it I do have a tendency to 

771
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,600
as a raconteur and as an 
entertainer or whatever, try to 

772
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,600
present stuff. 
And I do have a a tendency I 

773
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,760
think as a person that's felt 
even prior to all this 

774
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,840
happening. 
I feel like I'm being under 

775
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,000
attack my whole life anyway and 
that if I wasn't famous and if I

776
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,440
wasn't sleeping with loads of 
women I wasn't worth knowing or 

777
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,680
even worth anything or even 
worth being alive. 

778
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,240
Yeah, it's called the 
persecution complex, Russell, 

779
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,360
and it is jarringly common 
amongst figures on the far 

780
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,000
right. 
This is a man who was literally 

781
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,880
claimed that the MI 5, the 
British military, the British 

782
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,760
government and the CIA have all 
been out to get him and shut him

783
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,680
down. 
And of course, his 

784
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,600
contemporaries all have similar 
complaints of being cancelled or

785
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080
censored. 
And they complain loudly to 

786
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,320
their audiences of millions to 
the point where if they're not 

787
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,560
getting as much online 
engagement as usual, they will 

788
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,240
cry conspiracy. 
It's almost as pathetic as 

789
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,360
Russell describing himself as a 
raconteur. 

790
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,800
And yes, for some reason Bear 
Grylls is friends with both 

791
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,240
Russell Brand and Piers Morgan. 
There are times when it is 

792
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,640
perfectly fair to judge a person
by the company they keep, and 

793
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,640
this is one of them. 
From here, Russell is the one to

794
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,240
bring up the question of his 
denomination again, and things 

795
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,360
start to fall apart pretty 
quickly. 

796
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,000
I suppose what I got rankled 
even at the asking about the 

797
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,840
denomination is because it's so 
beautiful in its purity and its 

798
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,720
formlessness. 
But most Christians have no 

799
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:49,200
problem saying what denomination
there. 

800
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,360
It's not like a problem with it,
I've got this challenge. 

801
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,800
And I'm a Catholic. 
I've got no problem telling you 

802
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,280
I. 
Know, but you're very different.

803
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,840
You're very different, but. 
Why? 

804
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,120
Why is it so difficult to 
answer? 

805
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,000
It's not difficult to answer. 
I like I'm really interested in 

806
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Catholicism. 
Really interested. 

807
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,600
You kind of love it. 
You then were a Buddhist. 

808
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,840
See, that's my that's that's 
antagonistic. 

809
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,040
No, it's not. 
It's factual. 

810
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,120
Like you were an atheist. 
What are you going to be next? 

811
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,240
You were a yes, that's what 
something, that's what some 

812
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,200
people think. 
Hitler. 

813
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,960
What do you think about Hitler? 
That's what some people do. 

814
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,360
You OK? 
That's what some people. 

815
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,280
Should we get the Shab? 
Have you vaccinated your own 

816
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,680
children? 
Take Bear's advice and calm 

817
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,200
down. 
No, you take Bear's advice and 

818
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,640
be a good man. 
I am a good man. 

819
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,880
Be a good man. 
I've just. 

820
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,480
And then it cost you to be a 
good man. 

821
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,640
You may not. 
It might cost you. 

822
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,720
Everything you might not like. 
It might cost you everything to 

823
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,000
become one but you. 
Could do it. 

824
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,560
You might not. 
You could do it, Russell. 

825
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,000
OK, there's a lot to deal with 
here, and we can see that 

826
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,400
Russell has very clearly reached
a breaking point, first doing a 

827
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,200
mocking impression of Pierce to 
his face and then yelling at him

828
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,160
for not being a good man, as 
Bear Grylls has dictated he 

829
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,880
should be. 
Fucking hell, when it comes to 

830
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,920
the question of Russell 
previously having been atheist 

831
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,720
and then Buddhist, he's missing 
a trick here. 

832
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,520
See, the normal and frankly 
easiest thing to do is say Oh 

833
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,320
yes I was lost, but now I'm 
found. 

834
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,200
I thought I had the answers 
elsewhere, but actually the only

835
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,800
answer is in Christ, right? 
It's really straightforward 

836
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,040
conversion stuff and he should 
know by now that the right wing 

837
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,560
in the US eat that shit up. 
Instead, he gets all pissy and 

838
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,760
offended because he was not 
prepared for even the most basic

839
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,720
level of scrutiny being applied 
to him. 

840
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,200
The other thing I need to 
mention is that a few days after

841
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,800
this interview, Piers Morgan 
came out and said that Russell 

842
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,840
was, quote, inappropriately 
tactile during the interview. 

843
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,720
Naturally, this generated a few 
more headlines, but it was 

844
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,640
something I had noticed 
throughout. 

845
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Now, I, I will say I, I don't 
think there's necessarily 

846
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,640
anything wrong with being more 
tactile as a person. 

847
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,560
I'm a hugger, for instance, 
right? 

848
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,200
And as long as you're respecting
everyone's boundaries and 

849
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,560
remaining within the realm of 
propriety, it's all fine. 

850
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,360
And if in doubt, just don't do 
it right. 

851
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,800
But after Pierce mentioned that,
I decided to go through the 

852
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,200
thing and count the instances 
where Russell touches Pierce. 

853
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,040
It's of note that at no point 
does Pierce go to touch Russell.

854
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,600
So throughout the interview, 
Russell touches Pierce's arm 

855
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,040
usually for three to five 
seconds or more. 

856
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,640
A total of 25 times the 
interview is an hour 40 or 

857
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,960
thereabouts. 
He also puts his hand on 

858
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Pierce's thigh at least four 
times that I could see. 

859
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,280
So yes, I am happy to call that 
inappropriate given the setting,

860
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,520
but there's something I found 
really fascinating. 

861
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,480
See, in the 1st 40 minutes when 
things are more cordial, Russell

862
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,560
only touches Pierce's arm once 
within the last half an hour 

863
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,680
when things get really tense. 
Between the two of them, I 

864
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,200
counted 16 arm fondlings. 
That is of course an average of 

865
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,120
less than two minutes between 
Russell touching Pierce's arm 

866
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,760
and and Russell getting more 
tactile seems to only come out 

867
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,880
in instances of conflict, which 
I personally think is real 

868
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000
fucking weird. 
Like, if you watch closely, you 

869
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000
will note that Russell usually 
touches Pierce's arm either to 

870
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,680
interrupt him or to really try 
and hammer home a point he's 

871
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,920
making, as though there's some 
part of his brain associating 

872
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,000
the physical connection with 
Pierce somehow being persuaded 

873
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,600
into Russell's way of thinking. 
Like, hey, if I touch him, he's 

874
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,320
going to agree with me. 
And I'm just saying where I, one

875
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080
of the lawyers about to be 
dealing with the prosecution 

876
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,680
against Russell for various sex 
crimes, I might have some 

877
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,760
psychologist examining this 
interview. 

878
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:42,240
Just just a suggestion. 
Anyway, Russell's little 

879
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:45,040
meltdown continues here. 
These are basic facts. 

880
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,640
You were an atheist. 
You then became a Buddhist. 

881
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:49,080
No, no, you're a Christian. 
Good. 

882
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,000
They're not basic facts, they're
information being tailored and 

883
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,400
collated. 
Is it not true? 

884
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,960
Yeah, you are creating 
attempting to create using a 

885
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,080
collage of language. 
You're the one who told us how 

886
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,920
proud. 
Of that. 

887
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,520
You were, you told us you were a
Navy. 

888
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,120
Israel's got the right to 
protect itself. 

889
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,360
Yeah, this is a genocide. 
Don't take that COVID shot. 

890
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,920
Take the COVID shot. 
Listen. 

891
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,160
But I'm happy to talk about 
that. 

892
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,760
You're not. 
I'm happy to talk about 

893
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,320
anything, but I would prefer to 
talk about. 

894
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,760
But I only know you're a Navy. 
I prefer to talk about 

895
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,120
something, Piers. 
Fine. 

896
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,680
Something. 
We're talking about your 

897
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,520
profound belief in God and I as 
a Christian. 

898
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,160
No, we're not talking about my 
profound belief in God. 

899
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,880
We're talking about the 
actuality of God and we're 

900
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,360
talking about the fact that you 
have been doing water carrying 

901
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,840
for Satan. 
That's what we're talking about,

902
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,280
Piers, water, carrying the 
fallenness in this world. 

903
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,480
The fallenness I guess. 
If in doubt, get the Satan out. 

904
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,120
It's acted as Russell's get out 
of jail free card for quite a 

905
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,320
while. 
You know when he goes off course

906
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,600
on a point he's trying to make 
he will often just go and it's 

907
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,080
all satanic. 
But this is the first time I've 

908
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,400
seen him directly accuse someone
of working for Satan. 

909
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,440
Pierce is understandably 
confused and wanting answers. 

910
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,520
So let's let Russell finish and 
just note that Russell has his 

911
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,000
hand on Pierce's arm for a full 
40 seconds in this next clip. 

912
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,120
I've been carrying water for. 
Satan. 

913
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,480
Satan is the epitomizing object 
of the realness of evil. 

914
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,360
The evil is not some abstract 
moral idea. 

915
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,360
Who's to say to Gary Waterfall? 
I suppose it's and I'm trying 

916
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,120
not. 
I don't mean to be mean the same

917
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,080
as you. 
Like I don't care. 

918
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,960
It's the institutions of media 
power and how they interact and 

919
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,120
operate with government. 
You, I suppose one could argue 

920
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,360
your initial position in COVID. 
One could argue what went on 

921
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,360
with the mirror stuff. 
One could argue what went on say

922
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,280
with this contentiousness around
the terrifying and awful 

923
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,960
conflicts in the Middle East. 
And but more importantly, more 

924
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,880
importantly, right now, right 
now that there's a chance for us

925
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,480
to even when like I sort of take
my own advice and more 

926
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,680
importantly Bear Grylls advice 
and think, right, just sit and 

927
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,440
chill, that you sort of revert 
to a kind of he was like he was,

928
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,120
he was a Buddhist. 
And I can't see that as a good 

929
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,320
faith inquiry. 
I see it as an attempt to 

930
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,200
generate an outcome and and to 
create a sort of a kind of 

931
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,200
hysteria, whether that's in this
room with me or sort of more 

932
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,160
broadly among people. 
Again, I really do think that 

933
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,320
this is just a case of Russell 
taking the questions about him 

934
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,920
very personally rather than, you
know, answering them like a 

935
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,160
normal human being. 
Because realistically, the fact 

936
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,280
that Russell was once atheist 
and once somewhat Buddhist isn't

937
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,920
particularly interesting at all.
Many people who are now 

938
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,320
religious also used to be 
atheist, agnostic, or of a 

939
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,320
different religion. 
Conversion stories happen all 

940
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,920
the time, the same way that many
atheists were raised to be 

941
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,240
religious or used to be 
religious in some way. 

942
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,120
It's not some great gotcha if an
atheist used to be Christian and

943
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,440
now isn't, and the same applies 
in reverse. 

944
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,200
O this isn't anything worth 
crying over. 

945
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,160
It's just that Russell is a 
hypersensitive little bitch. 

946
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,680
As for the water carrying for 
Satan, well, Russell basically 

947
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,480
just described Pierce's entire 
career. 

948
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,880
And while I don't entirely 
disagree that Pierce Morgan has 

949
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,440
mostly been a negative force in 
the world, I'm not sure he's at 

950
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,960
the level of being satanic. 
From here, Pierce asks another 

951
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,160
perfectly valid question, and 
Russell tries to turn it around 

952
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,920
on him. 
What if you get convicted and 

953
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,880
you go to prison? 
And it's not very nice. 

954
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,720
No, not that you'll. 
Have to choose again. 

955
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,920
They'll be the white 
supremacists, the Muslims. 

956
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,960
Not that all you do. 
Join the white supremacists on 

957
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,040
Monday and then grift for 
cigarettes with the Muslims on 

958
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,680
the next. 
Day Will you deal with the fact 

959
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,720
that in that moment, God has 
felt that's the right thing to 

960
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,480
happen to you? 
Then like, you know, drink the 

961
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,840
cup man, drink the cup. 
That's the that's the deal we've

962
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,840
got. 
That's the deal we've got, 

963
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,480
Piers. 
And how will you feel on your 

964
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,760
judgement day? 
How will you feel on your 

965
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,880
judgement day? 
Because it's outside of time, 

966
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,120
it's here now, and it's forever.
I can't speak for Pierce, but 

967
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,800
I'd probably feel better about 
some hypothetical ethereal 

968
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,640
judgement day than the imminent 
prospect of imprisonment for sex

969
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,640
crimes. 
You know, like I think Russell 

970
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,000
felt pretty good about that 
little turn around and he 

971
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,480
probably shouldn't have because 
also, what about Russell's 

972
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,560
judgement day? 
Like I know we as a society have

973
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,840
decided that prison prison time 
is how 1 atones for crimes, 

974
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,720
right? 
But I'm not sure that's how it 

975
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,640
works in a biblical sense. 
Like, particularly when he's not

976
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,920
going to be on trial for many of
the other allegations against 

977
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,960
him. 
So now Russell does a bit more 

978
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,000
inappropriate touching while 
continuing to be a condescending

979
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,560
prick. 
And there's the hair that has 

980
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,680
been bothering me for a long 
time. 

981
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,360
I'm going to, thankfully it 
wasn't attached, otherwise that 

982
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,880
would have been grooming. 
And what would that be in the 

983
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,120
ape world? 
What I want to say to you is 

984
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,840
that I want to be better. 
I want to be better. 

985
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,520
And for me, the cost of that, 
who knows what that's going to 

986
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,520
be. 
You mean you've alluded to it 

987
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,280
already? 
I want you to do it as well. 

988
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,560
I know you can do it. 
I want you to be a meaningful 

989
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,560
participant. 
I, I feel that there's some 

990
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,400
reason that you're in this world
and it's not to generate 

991
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,560
conflict and it's not to 
generate. 

992
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,520
It's to participate in the 
creation of truth. 

993
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,360
That was always your destiny and
I want you to do it. 

994
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,520
Is your Is your book going to 
generate profit? 

995
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,120
Actually, I've already decided 
and believe me, I don't want to 

996
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,160
do this, but no. 
But if it does make any money, 

997
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,920
and the chances of that are slim
in this crazy world that I will 

998
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,480
find a way. 
In fact, me and you, if you, I 

999
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,280
mean like, you know, I want to 
give it to something that means 

1000
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,320
something. 
I've seen it all. 

1001
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,720
I've not seen it all, but I've 
seen enough. 

1002
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,560
I've seen a lot. 
Of Tucker Carlson's companies 

1003
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,120
doing it right, Tucker 
carlsonbooks.com. 

1004
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Tuckercarlsonbooks.com is an 
imprint of the company Sky 

1005
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,760
Horse, which are a company that 
will publish stuff of cancelled 

1006
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,520
people. 
That is true for anyone not in 

1007
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,160
the know. 
The same publishing company that

1008
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,320
Tucker Carlson is using, you 
know, is, is, you know, 

1009
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,160
essentially vanity publishing 
affair are also the people that 

1010
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,600
published RFK Junior's terrible 
book about Fauci. 

1011
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,880
And they're home to titles from 
Sean Spicer, Georgia Maloney and

1012
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,600
Alan Dershowitz. 
And they also have such 

1013
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,960
wonderful titles as Bad 
Medicine, How COVID Protocols 

1014
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Turned hospitals into Death 
Traps. 

1015
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Great the truth about seed oils 
with 50 plus recipes, I might 

1016
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,680
add. 
So you know, you you get fear 

1017
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,400
and recipes, so that's good. 
Cancer is a parasite. 

1018
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,600
Kill it with safe over the 
counter anti parasitic 

1019
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,320
fenbendazole. 
Yeah, that one seems safe. 

1020
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Cigars, a biography which I 
didn't even realize Cigars was a

1021
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,120
person, and also Good Night 
Little American, a patriotic 

1022
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,800
children's book written by Rand 
Paul's wife. 

1023
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Russell is in good company. 
Note that he never actually 

1024
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,800
finished his sentence about his 
book supposedly never making 

1025
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,520
profit, you know, and him 
donating. 

1026
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,760
Not that he desperately needs 
the money as he is still one of 

1027
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,760
the richest nought point nought 
1% of people on earth. 

1028
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,480
As for his points about Pierce, 
I do broadly agree that Piers 

1029
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Morgan, especially in his 
current iteration, basically 

1030
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,520
does conflict porn for a living.
Like he gets a bunch of people 

1031
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,760
yelling at each other on screen 
and everyone walks away feeling 

1032
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,680
like they won the exchange and 
everyone watching ends up 

1033
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,640
leaning into their own opinions 
just a little harder thanks to 

1034
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,080
confirmation bias, while Piers 
Morgan himself makes a fortune 

1035
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,440
off the fight. 
It's a terrible show. 

1036
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,720
That said, the last person who 
can critique Pierce for this is 

1037
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:35,320
Russell, who generates and 
profits from conflict on a daily

1038
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,560
basis. 
And if anyone wants any insight 

1039
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,720
on that, take a moment to go 
look at Russell's Rumble channel

1040
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:45,280
and the AI generated hellscape 
that are his thumbnails to his 

1041
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,960
videos. 
Yikes. 

1042
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,720
So next, Piers gets into a bit 
of discussion around 

1043
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,120
intellectual honesty. 
There are very few people out in

1044
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,800
my world, in the media who are 
prepared to be, in my view, 

1045
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,360
intellectually honest. 
What do you mean by that and why

1046
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,960
would that be? 
For example, I don't think 

1047
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,000
anyone who is intellectually 
honest can say they know what's 

1048
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,600
happening in the Iran war right 
now with any confidence. 

1049
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,960
People who talk with absolute 
certainty and confidence about 

1050
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,760
it, they're not being 
intellectually honest because 

1051
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,800
clearly it's extremely chaotic 
and unpredictable and no one can

1052
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,800
speak with any confidence about 
what's going to happen. 

1053
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,240
That's the intellectually honest
position. 

1054
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,240
All right, I've got it. 
Do you would you apply that to 

1055
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:31,160
various areas of complexity, 
even if they're not the? 

1056
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:34,400
You you keep mentioning Israeli 
guards is somehow I should be 

1057
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,080
embarrassed about my evolution 
on that story. 

1058
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,480
But my position was very clear 
after the appalling terror 

1059
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,040
attack by Hamas on October the 
7th, where 1200 Israelis were 

1060
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,640
killed, 7000 more were wounded. 
Absolutely Israel didn't just 

1061
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,000
have a right to defend its 
people, but to had a moral duty 

1062
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,880
to do it. 
And then as it went on, I felt 

1063
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,160
the scale of their response 
became utterly disproportionate.

1064
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,280
And I feel that very strongly 
now. 

1065
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,600
That's my position by the way, a
lot of people agree with me. 

1066
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,480
So I don't think it's an unusual
evolution on that story. 

1067
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Yes. 
But if I asked you, for example,

1068
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,720
are Hamas a terrorist 
organization, and was what they 

1069
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,240
did that day an act of 
terrorism, what would you say? 

1070
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,440
This is where we get, I think, 
to an important. 

1071
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,280
What would you say? 
Is that what I would say is 

1072
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,520
Piers, are you, do you not 
recognise perhaps because of 

1073
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,520
your stated aim to be at the 
heart of global debate that 

1074
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,200
actually it's a conflict 
generating dynamic and. 

1075
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,760
Whilst we're talking about a 
conflict literally where people 

1076
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,600
are dying. 
Of course, naturally. 

1077
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,800
For anyone wondering why Russell
isn't answering yet another very

1078
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,120
basic question is because his 
audience are very much divided 

1079
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,720
on it, as are other figures in 
the far right media sphere, and 

1080
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:57,000
Russell will make less money if 
he ever decides to hop off the 

1081
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480
fence. 
He's done the same thing for 2 

1082
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,120
1/2 years now, so I don't think 
it likely that he'll pick a 

1083
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,000
side. 
And it is kind of absurd because

1084
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,120
I am very much pro Palestine and
even I have no problem in saying

1085
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,760
that October 7th was a terrorist
attack. 

1086
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,720
Like we can examine the history 
of Israeli apartheid and the 

1087
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,320
surrounding conditions that led 
up to that point as to why an 

1088
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,720
insurgent organization would do 
such a thing. 

1089
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,600
But yes, ultimately it was a 
terrorist attack that killed 

1090
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,920
innocent people. 
And no, Pierce is not alone in 

1091
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,240
believing that, hey, let's 
slaughter children in the 10s of

1092
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,080
thousands is after proportional 
response to that terrorist 

1093
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,520
attack. 
But in the final clip here, 

1094
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,040
let's see if Pierce manages to 
nail Russell down on an answer. 

1095
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:49,440
My point is that my sense of 
what is right and wrong is taken

1096
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,240
from scripture, and my sense of 
how we should treat one another 

1097
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,880
as individuals is guided by 
that. 

1098
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,960
And my sense of what should 
happen on a global stage is 

1099
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,920
completely guided by that. 
And it's 1 of submission and 

1100
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,520
surrender and. 
Terrorism. 

1101
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,080
Like really well, is it that 
think of the questions you could

1102
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,080
ask about that I'm. 
Just asking a basic question 

1103
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,880
about. 
It's not a basic. 

1104
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Question how Mass did that day? 
Do you know what we've learned? 

1105
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
There are no basic questions. 
Anymore there are, And that's 

1106
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,800
the problem about being 
intellectually dishonest, is 

1107
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,880
that when you have an act of 
obvious grotesque terrorism, you

1108
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,560
just say what it is. 
You don't. 

1109
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,400
You don't think how's that going
to play? 

1110
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,960
To my audience. 
Or how's that going to man out 

1111
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,640
on social media? 
You just say when 1200 people 

1112
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,720
are massacred like that then 
it's a grotesque act of 

1113
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,400
terrorism when babies are 
kidnapped and they Holocaust? 

1114
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,280
No, you don't. 
You. 

1115
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,840
Look at how it is a. 
Grotesque act. 

1116
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Of terrorism, a potential turn 
of narratives and you try to 

1117
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,360
you've. 
Answered it by not. 

1118
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,480
Answering no, I well I have. 
Haven't you? 

1119
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,640
It's wrong to kill people, OK? 
Well, I'm glad we settled that. 

1120
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,760
Maybe now we can put the whole 
conflict to bed quick. 

1121
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,160
Somebody send messages to Israel
and Palestine telling them it's 

1122
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,920
wrong to kill people. 
That'll fix it. 

1123
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,360
And of course Russell speaks of 
looking at alternative 

1124
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,160
narratives here, but he never 
actually does. 

1125
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,800
All he has ever done is rattle 
off some headlines and say oh 

1126
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,120
wow, this conflict is terribly 
complicated and tense and I pray

1127
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,680
for everyone involved and I 
really hope it comes to a 

1128
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:21,080
peaceful end soon. 
And that's it for 2 1/2 years. 

1129
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It's why I don't cover his 
perspective on it very much 

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because he deliberately doesn't 
fucking have one. 

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,720
Oh fuck this guy. 
Anyway, that's the show 

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everybody. 
If you want to support me and 

1133
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,320
what I do, head to patreon.com 
slash on brand where you can 

1134
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access additional content and a 
completely ad free version of 

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,000
the show. 
If not, please subscribe and 

1136
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,440
leave reviews and all that good 
shit. 

1137
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,200
On brand will be back real soon,
but in the meantime, take care 

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of yourselves and each other. 
Thank you very much. 

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00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,520
I love you, baby. 
Bastards, aren't they? 

1140
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,440
I mean, you can't watch too much
of this without realizing 

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they're absolute bastards. 
All right, I'm going to finish 

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now because I'm hungry and I 
want to eat something. 

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All right, bye.