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I'm the main problem. 
I'm the main problem. 

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Let's go full screen on Russell.
Welcome to the AAA, the A A A, 

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the the the It's not baseball or
a or a high end video game. 

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No, it's it's ask Al anything 
for you beloved patrons. 

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I thought it'd be interesting to
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for me and questions you have, 
which is which is fun and 

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hopefully I've got a new camera 
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of of some description. 
So I don't know test run. 

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Anyway, we'll see how it goes. 
I've been fiddling with the 

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settings a little bit, so 
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Anyway, we're going to jump off 
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Russell oriented questions 
because I'll put in a little 

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preview of this out on the main 
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taste. 
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relevant and we'll get into some
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later. 
So we're going to jump off with 

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a question from Natalie's Hot 
tea, The Elixir of Life. 

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And I must use the full name in 
that instance. 

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Oh, I think we've got Popo. 
Is it Popo or ambulance? 

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There's something, I tell you 
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Like, I live in a small town. 
Nothing ever happens here. 

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So like when you hear sirens, 
ah, it's an ambulance. 

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Ah, that's what I'm saying. 
Well, I hope whoever it is is 

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fine anyway. 
Nothing ever happens here. 

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So like when when you hear 
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Natalie's hot TV likes of life. 
What do you think is the future 

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of Russell Brand and his brand 
of grifter in general? 

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We've been dealing with an 
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media figure over the last 
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pops is going to leave its mark 
on our collective Western quote 

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UN quote culture. 
Yeah, I mean, the future of 

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Russell Brand specifically. 
Hopefully prison. 

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That'd be good. 
I I would like prison if that's 

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an option. 
However, what I will say is even

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even in the event of him going 
to prison, you know, he's 

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managed to kind of make the 
narrative so much of A 

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conspiracy against him. 
You know, oh, it's the MI 5 and 

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government and the CIA, all of 
them trying to take me down and 

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the, and the media. 
It's all, it's all a big whole 

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thing. 
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prison, I reckon he'd be able to
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status and still be able to, to 
get a good grift going when he 

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gets out. 
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unfortunately, I would say the 
charges for, you know, the 

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things he's on trial for, which 
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etcetera. 
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is pretty, in my opinion, 
lenient in this country. 

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So I think, you know, five 
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he'd be gone away for long 
anyway. 

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And I think he would manage to 
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he'd probably have a miserable 
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But failing that, I mean, say he
doesn't end up in prison. 

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The future of of this brand of 
grifter in general, the future 

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looks pretty bright for them. 
Unfortunately, You know, we're 

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we're reaching, we're reaching 
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society where we're, we're 
collectively realizing that, oh,

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it doesn't matter what I say to 
these people because they 

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believe the thing anyway. 
Like my show is, is never like 

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I, I will be shocked if my show 
changes anyone's mind. 

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You know, if, if, if someone 
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heart, you know, and from 
Russell's kind of sphere of 

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things and is actually like, 
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He is a shit, you know, then I, 
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because we are, we are all kind 
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off into different media 
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And that one in particular, the 
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theory stuff is, is so 
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isolating in its nature. 
The, the people can't get out, 

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you know, and people, people 
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even when they don't think 
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And you get a situation of of 
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dissimilar to what happened a 
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right. 
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thing of like, well, you know, 
how how do you how do you kind 

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of de propagandize and kind of, 
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some kind of neutral base of 
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facts? 
And how do you do that on mass? 

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Like, I've no fucking idea. 
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last time, you know, and, and 
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And so when you, when you then 
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people that are doing it, I'm 
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they've, they've got a while to 
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They, you know, the things, 
things, things are still ramping

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up. 
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politically and in and in every 
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And I think we've got a while to
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And I think, you know, line is 
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something's got to give 
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But you know, in the, in the 
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know, end of World War 2 is, is 
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1932, something like that. 
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time. 
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media figures in general, 
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up. 
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spanners in the works, though. 
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them are starting to kind of eat
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Trump because a couple of them 
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I need to pivot, you know, to, 
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myself from the pack. 
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only is he not going to be 
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he's, he's doing a bad job. 
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difficult to defend him from the
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going to do everything we want 
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everything we want him to. 
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there are, there are hurdles and
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these people. 
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are, are pretty adept at 
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able to manoeuvre in this space,
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the time, I mean, you see it 
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You know, they don't even need 
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try. 
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can pivot in that direction and 
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working. 
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hold them accountable or give a 
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of that side of things. 
So yeah, how it's going to leave

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its mark on our collective, on 
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It's it's not good. 
It's not good. 

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What I will say is happening in 
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interesting politically because 
the Conservatives after 14 years

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of destroying the country, kind 
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basically they've shot 
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fascinating to watch a 
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they'll shoot themselves in the 
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And they'll graduate to like a 
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And, and at this point I'm just,
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the Labour government in 
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I'm like, oh, you're, you're 
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Is, is what's happening here 
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them coming in the in the next 
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And there is a, there is a 
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Wales, right? 
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Parliament and we, we don't have
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to us. 
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really just classic more, more 
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Welsh. 
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coming up and traditionally 
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Labour majority since forever, 
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based in kind of the roots of of
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big part of the Labour Party. 
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know, what, what created the NHS
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socialism. 
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of minors essentially, you know,
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looking after each other and 
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scale. 
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happening there politically is, 
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Labour are polling at all in 
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significant metric, which is 
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And so the, the two parties you 
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who I support and have voted 
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everyone is being driven further
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We are seeing almost in real 
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now anyway, because it's just 
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Everyone's pissed off. 
I, I had a family gathering, you

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know, a little while back, you 
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couple of right wing family 
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fucking opposite directions, 
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around the fact that we fucking 
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That was something we all agreed
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that's telling. 
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know, the best we can hope for 
as people are driven to extremes

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is that the extreme left will 
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terms of policy and everything 
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And that's what happened. 
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Caerphilly, you know, for, for 
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to Blight Cymru in that 
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indicator, certainly positive at
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But yeah, and, and I think 
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the UK in the next election in 
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coalition government of some 
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Greens and maybe Labour, maybe 
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No, the Lib Dems are fucking 
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They, they just, they're like 
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That's all. 
They that's all they really seem

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to stand for. 
But of course, America doesn't 

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have that is the thing like you,
you guys are somehow more 

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entrenched than we are in, in, 
in terms of in terms of 

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political parties. 
Here's the thing, like in France

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the UK because they don't have a
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we do. 
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coalition governments like 
throughout Europe, but you know,

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to, to see a coalition 
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has to have gone truly fucking 
disastrously wrong, which it 

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that because there's, there's 
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and so much money and so much is
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It's unbelievable. 
And so you have this problem in 

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the US of of like you don't have
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You don't have these because the
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You know, you know, you're 
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I don't know someone else who 
decides that palling around with

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the Chinese is a good idea. 
You know, on the left and then 

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the right are going to be like, 
no, we want literal Hitler this 

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time. 
We're going to revive him and 

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we're going to make him 
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We're going to change the 
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actually be someone born in 
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That's. 
And that's who we want. 

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Yeah. 
It's it's not it's not a 

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positive outlook. 
I'm not going to lie to you, but

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you know, that's not to say that
all hope is lost. 

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Like I said, the, the, the, the 
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Leftism has to, has to be able 
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further left. 
Like the, the further they go 

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right, though we should, we 
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fucking straight up communism at
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But like, you know what, screw 
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Universal basic income for 
everyone. 

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Yep. 
What are you going to do? 

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You know, you want to frigging, 
you know, put all of the, put 

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all of the migrants in prison. 
Well then you know, we're, we're

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going to, I don't know, yeah, 
just give everyone money is what

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we're going to do. 
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healthcare, healthcare might be 
a start. 

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It's difficult for me to kind of
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because obviously, you know, the
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nature. 
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me to forget like, Oh yeah, 
there's so many basic shit that 

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you guys just don't even have 
that like Christ, that's radical

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to you people, to your country. 
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that's where we stand. 
We just need to unify the left. 

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And Zoran Mamdani winning in New
York is a good indicator as well

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of like potential flat. 
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US has is, is, is that 
entrenchment and, and the amount

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of control that the DNC has has 
over how that's going to go. 

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Whereas at least over here we do
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So there's there's perhaps an 
easier Rd. of it comparatively, 

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though it's still going to suck 
in many ways and still require a

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lot of fighting. 
OK, so I chatted for a long time

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on that one, but there we go. 
That's my thoughts. 

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Hopefully prison for Russell. 
That's still where I stand. 

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OK, Next, a question from Mag 
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I'm sorry if this is obvious, 
but I only started listening 

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recently. 
How much of Russell's bullshit 

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do you think he actually 
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Like, what is his actual belief 
versus scam slash not going to 

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jail? 
Like the crunchy Wellness versus

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Christian Republican shit? 
I mean, yeah. 

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So in terms of stuff that 
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kind of, if, if it's any, if 
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week, I have to take whatever 
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grain of salt because he usually
doesn't know what he's talking 

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about until he reads it on the 
auto queue for a start. 

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And he's just kind of making it 
up as he goes. 

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In terms of the Christianity, I 
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I think that's genuine that that
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He does believe in that and and 
and I think there's a fair body 

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of evidence to show that that he
that that that is genuine and 

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has been going on for a lot 
longer than he would have anyone

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believe. 
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that like a bunch of the anti 
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of the Wellness stuff, you know,
and it and it's it's it's easy 

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for him because he's again, he's
among the nought point nought 1%

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wealthiest people on the planet.
And so he doesn't have to, you 

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know, he he doesn't have to eat 
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you know, he doesn't have to 
drink the same water that we do.

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And he doesn't, you know, and 
and so he can believe that 

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everything is poison and merrily
skirt that despite the rest of 

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us, you know, having all of 
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the most part. 
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mean, that's, you know, it's 
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than it is him because obviously
he's vaccinated up to the gills 

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for the most part. 
OK, good. 

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Because his mum seems to not be 
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As for what else he believes, 
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I mean, you know, tiny 
theocratic ethnostates. 

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He's a big fan of that. 
You know, he's he will tolerate 

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the existence of queer people as
long as we're nowhere near him. 

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He just wants his, you know, 
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people place. 
And, you know, all the African 

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Americans can go over there and 
blow it right in this, in this 

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kind of bizarre utopia of his 
where all these tiny communities

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are self governing and, and, and
there's no war between them at 

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all. 
You're like, OK, OK. 

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But in terms of like the 
conspiracy theory stuff, I don't

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know. 
I, I think he likes to avoid 

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specifics because they tend to 
challenge his wealthy bit. 

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Because here's the thing, like 
in many ways he can be a dipshit

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it but in many other ways he's 
not stupid. 

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You know, he's he's not a moron.
He he's incredibly ignorant of 

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many things, but he's not a 
moron. 

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And so when something comes 
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off to him, he'll be like, OK, 
interesting. 

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And and he he will kind of zoom 
out to be like, OK, at the very 

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least, this is representative of
this other problem about how 

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Farmer is doing this and very, 
you know, and the systems of 

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control and we need a 
revolution, you know, and blah, 

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blah, blah, blah. 
And the other thing I'll say 

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about that is, is that Russell, 
he's infamously lazy. 

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To, to, to an incredible degree.
And I, I sympathise, I like to 

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take the path of least 
resistance where possible a lot 

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of the time. 
I understand it and I sympathise

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with the impulse. 
The, the, the problem, the 

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problem seems to be where like 
his values are also, you know, 

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in the direction of the path of 
least resistance as well. 

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You know, I'm like that, that 
that's those, those things 

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should not merge, which is why 
he's, you know, he's now eating 

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beet again. 
You know, he was smoking a 

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cigarette on Infowars. 
I'm like, OK, what's what's 

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going on here? 
Because he used to, you know, he

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used to be a vegan and, and, and
all this other stuff. 

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And he's just throwing that by 
the wayside, you know, And, and 

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so for, for him, it would be, 
you know, what he believes will 

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be a, a case of one of the 
things that I can, that I can 

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say and do that will make people
like me and trust me and are 

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also the easiest to pull off. 
You know, what, what, what can I

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do to, to lean in that 
direction? 

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And that's always where he will 
go because he's a phenomenal 

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trend hound, you know, and, and 
he's also incredibly insecure 

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and repeatedly Googles himself. 
So. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
And in terms of the crunchy 

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Wellness stuff, yeah, a lot of 
that has fallen by the wayside, 

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you know, like he's not, he's 
not leading meditations anymore.

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You know, he was a year ago. 
He's not anymore, you know, 

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well, a year and a half ago, you
know, he's, he's completely 

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gotten rid of that entirely. 
Because while you know, it's 

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it's, it's too much juice, you 
know, too much juice. 

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No, the juice isn't worth the 
squeeze. 

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Yeah, with his audience anymore,
whereas it used to be. 

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Which leads me on to the next 
question actually, which is from

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Ian from Iceland. 
Have you felt like Russell has 

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lost any of his audience slash 
supporters in recent years or do

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you think he has gained in 
popularity now? 

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Then it's an interesting 
question because I think there's

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been a bit of a transplanting of
his audience. 

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Some of the old school have 
left. 

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Not all of them, but some of 
them have the, you know, the 

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kind of the crunchy Wellness 
ones who kind of knew him from 

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when he was doing videos about, 
you know, how to get through a 

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tough relationship crisis or 
whatever. 

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You know, back back when he was 
more in his guru phase. 

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You know, most of those people 
have kind of gone now, which 

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again, is, is why he will have 
stopped doing the meditations 

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and all of this stuff and why 
he's happy to abandon veganism 

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and everything. 
It no longer serves his interest

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to do so, you know, and, and it 
serves the new audience better 

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to not be doing meditations 
because because you know, some, 

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some Christians really take 
issue with the concept of it, 

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but as, as, as though it's some 
kind of blasphemy. 

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And same with same with veganism
as well. 

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Like particularly in America, 
you know, the, the right wing 

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Christians will all be steak 
eating and, and Bible thumping 

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individuals. 
And so, you know, he's he's 

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fitting in with them who are now
his audience in Florida. 

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So he has lost a bunch, but he's
also gained a bunch. 

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I mean, because like the the 
allegations was kind of a big 

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turning point of a lot of people
abandoning him, you know, from 

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his old audience. 
But at the same time, the week 

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following, in the, in the weeks,
sorry, following the allegations

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coming out against him back in 
September 2023, his, his 

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subscriber rate went up by like 
800% or something. 

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You know, so like people, people
were flocking to him on the 

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basis of his, his pre emptive 
response and, and everything 

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like that as well. 
And, and you know, the 

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presentation from people like 
Tucker Carlson be like, oh, he's

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being attacked because he's a 
truth teller. 

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And I'm like, OK, Tuck, you 
know, so, so ultimately probably

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a net gain. 
What has been interesting is, is

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Russell, Russell took a break a 
few weeks ago. 

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He was, he was off for a couple 
of weeks and he made like big 

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dramatic statements about like, 
Hey, I need to, I need to go 

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away and reassess, you know, 
what I can bring to this space, 

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you know, and, and, and if I 
should really be doing this at 

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all and things like that. 
And I was like, oh, is Russell 

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going to quit? 
That would be interesting. 

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He didn't quit, no at all. 
He he came back and doubled 

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down, went on info was right. 
But what what I had noticed is 

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obviously Russell, Russell has 
a, he has a personal deal with 

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Rumble, like his contract is 
with Rumble. 

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That's how he gets paid, you 
know, and he has, he has other 

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revenue streams, obviously, but 
but that's kind of the main one.

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And what I had noticed around 
the same time as as his break 

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happening was that his, his 
actual kind of viewership 

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numbers on Rumble have not been 
great. 

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They used to sit at like 
400,000, half a million, 

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something like that. 
And like for a while now they've

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been hovering around like 
200,000 Max on a good on a good 

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day, you know, and the rest of 
the time, you know, half that. 

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And you know, he, he's got, I 
don't know, 2.34 million people 

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on Rumble now, you know, 
subscribing to him. 

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And so I'm like, that's, that's 
low numbers in terms of 

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subscribers versus people 
actually paying attention to 

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your content. 
And then you look at the likes 

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of Steven Crowder and, and 
obviously you can't trust the 

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numbers on Rumble, particularly 
for actual Rumble creators. 

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But Steven Crowder has fewer 
subscribers and yet is pulling 

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in supposedly, you know, 
700,000, you know, views on his,

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on his Rumble and everything. 
I'm like, OK. 

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And I, I kind of, I had wondered
whether like perhaps popularity 

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was waning and, and there were 
problems behind the scenes in, 

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in terms of people actually 
giving a shit about what he has 

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to say, which is possible 
because on the surface you, you 

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do kind of, you do kind of look 
at it and, and, and you have to 

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be like, well, what does he 
actually bring to this space? 

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You know, he's, he's, he's a 
useful, he's got a useful story,

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had a useful narrative to to, 
you know, if, if he's going to 

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appear on other people's shows, 
you know, in many ways, you 

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know, being the martyr. 
And then you've got the, you 

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know, redemption story and 
Christian spark in lava 

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redemption story, right. 
But in terms of his own show, 

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like you watch it and it and 
it's just like, OK, you're just 

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regurgitating the same bullshit,
you know, from from the news and

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and you don't know that much. 
You don't have that interesting 

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a perspective. 
You vaguely waffle about 

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revolution every now and then. 
You know what, what do you have 

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to offer, you know, to society 
on this? 

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You know what, what do you bring
to this space, you know, other 

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than just just more open shirts,
I guess. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
So, you know, it's, it's, it's 

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difficult to tell because 
whether he's gained popularity 

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or not, because in, in in some 
ways, like some numbers have 

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gone up, but others seem, seem 
to have gone down and others 

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seem deeply suspicious. 
At the very least, he is 

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certainly a much more popular 
figure within that sphere than 

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he was a couple of years ago. 
He seems to be much more 

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accepted now than he was when I 
first started covering him. 

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I'm not sure that's a good thing
for him, but we'll see. 

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OK. 
This one was a bit out of left 

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field. 
It's from Griff 24 or Gruff 24. 

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Sorry. 
I immediately went to the Welsh 

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pronunciation of that. 
It could be Gruff 24. 

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But I'm going to say Griff 
because I I I I know people 

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called Griff in this country. 
What do you make of Netflix 

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acquiring Warner Brothers? 
The right wing are freaking out 

439
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,960
about it for some reason. 
Yeah. 

440
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120
All right. 
I'm going to finish now because 

441
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,320
I'm hungry and I want to eat 
something. 

442
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All right, bye.
