1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,760 Welcome back or to the Grace Church Members Podcast. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,200 I'm your host, Chris Rivers, and I'm thrilled to have you join us 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,550 today. In this episode we have a. 4 00:00:12,670 --> 00:00:15,870 Thought provoking discussion with Scott Mazingo and our 5 00:00:15,870 --> 00:00:19,550 special guest Brandon Garcia, we get an update on our Espanol 6 00:00:19,550 --> 00:00:23,110 campus and we also delve deep into the pursuit of the American 7 00:00:23,110 --> 00:00:26,270 Dream and its potential impact on our spiritual and family 8 00:00:26,270 --> 00:00:28,870 lives. Brandon Garcia currently serves 9 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:32,549 as the Espanol Campus Pastor and we also talk about his role in 10 00:00:32,549 --> 00:00:35,910 leading his entire campus through region, a discipleship 11 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:38,870 process centered around life change and the practical 12 00:00:38,870 --> 00:00:41,110 application of God's Word. It is a. 13 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:44,190 A jam packed interview and I'm excited for you to hear this 14 00:00:44,190 --> 00:00:48,310 conversation because it reminds me that God is working among us 15 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:51,310 in incredible ways. So without further ado, let's 16 00:00:51,310 --> 00:00:53,910 jump right into this conversation I have with Scott 17 00:00:53,910 --> 00:00:56,830 and Brandon. Brandon is great to see you 18 00:00:56,830 --> 00:00:59,270 today well. I'm happy to be here, Chris. 19 00:00:59,350 --> 00:01:00,790 Yeah. And Scott, good to see you. 20 00:01:00,870 --> 00:01:01,870 Hey, Chris. Good afternoon. 21 00:01:01,990 --> 00:01:03,750 Yeah, well, let's just jump right into it. 22 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:06,350 Brandon would love to hear a little bit more of your story 23 00:01:06,350 --> 00:01:08,550 here, how you got to Grace and what you're even doing now. 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,280 Well, it was November 2017 when I came to Greenville, but that 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,160 time they were looking, we were looking for a worship leader. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,760 So Robbie was a campus pastor. If you're a regular listener, 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,120 you hear about his story a couple of weeks ago and they 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,120 were doing some research to bring someone to lead worship at 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,400 the Espanol campus. We did some interviews, but we 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,080 were not sure that this was going to be a for real 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,860 opportunity. But then they got us tickets, so 32 00:01:39,860 --> 00:01:42,180 we came and visit. And we tickets where where were? 33 00:01:42,180 --> 00:01:44,700 You. Well, I was born and raised in 34 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:47,340 Costa Rica. I was married at that time, 35 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:53,540 maybe a year for a year. So we came in January 2017 and 36 00:01:53,540 --> 00:01:57,660 it was so cold for us. I mean, we were dying, but we 37 00:01:57,660 --> 00:02:00,900 really liked Greenville and we really liked the church. 38 00:02:01,460 --> 00:02:04,500 So we've been here for almost 6 years now. 39 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:08,889 Wow. Hey, I heard a rumor on how you 40 00:02:08,889 --> 00:02:11,730 learn to speak English. Yeah, how did you learn to speak 41 00:02:11,730 --> 00:02:14,730 English? Well, at that time I I'm, I 42 00:02:14,730 --> 00:02:18,490 don't know how you know Matt Kelly and Brian Darnell, they 43 00:02:18,490 --> 00:02:20,690 were able to understand what what I was saying. 44 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:24,370 They asked me to sing. That's what I did. 45 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:28,930 But but I just learned little by little, you know, with the 46 00:02:28,930 --> 00:02:32,270 songs. Some TV too, but specifically 47 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:34,870 when I moved here and I had to work with some other worship 48 00:02:34,870 --> 00:02:37,230 leaders, yeah, and they helped me a lot. 49 00:02:37,230 --> 00:02:40,470 I heard Netflix. Netflix is, yeah, for sure. 50 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:44,270 It's a tool there. Are definitely some songs that 51 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:47,670 I've heard on the Spotify playlist for the worship album 52 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:50,950 that you have done. And I love them, especially just 53 00:02:50,950 --> 00:02:52,310 the Espanol versions. Yeah. 54 00:02:52,510 --> 00:02:54,990 So it's good to have you. So you've been you were at 55 00:02:54,990 --> 00:02:58,470 Espanol as a worship leader, so tell us what you're doing now. 56 00:02:59,050 --> 00:03:06,650 Well, September 2022, Robbie transitioned into an outreach 57 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:11,370 role as an international pastor, and I have the privilege to 58 00:03:11,370 --> 00:03:14,410 serve as a campus pastor at Espanol. 59 00:03:14,410 --> 00:03:15,730 Wow. So. 60 00:03:15,730 --> 00:03:18,460 That's awesome. Hopefully everybody knows that's 61 00:03:18,460 --> 00:03:21,140 listening that we have an Espanol campus, but why don't 62 00:03:21,140 --> 00:03:23,620 you just give us a little bit of background on the campus and 63 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:25,660 tell us why, Why do we have an Espanol campus? 64 00:03:25,660 --> 00:03:28,100 Yeah. So in case you don't know, one 65 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:32,500 of our 10 campuses is actually a campus in which we speak 66 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:37,020 Spanish, and we call it Grace Church in Espanol because we do 67 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:41,500 same teaching, same series, same church, but just in a different 68 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:45,170 language. Around 8 years ago our leaders 69 00:03:45,170 --> 00:03:49,770 they they saw an opportunity to disciple the Hispanic community 70 00:03:49,770 --> 00:03:53,170 in the upstate. So we started with with Grace 71 00:03:53,170 --> 00:03:56,610 Church in Espanol. But now the the reality is is 72 00:03:56,610 --> 00:04:00,570 way different. 10% of the Green Book County population is 73 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:05,530 actually Latino. So one out of 10 people is is 74 00:04:06,010 --> 00:04:08,810 speak Spanish. So we have a huge opportunity 75 00:04:08,810 --> 00:04:11,920 to. To reach out and to those 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,040 families and spread the the good news. 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Hey, tell us a little bit about what does church life for the 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Latino population typically look like in the Upstate? 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Well, unfortunately there are not a lot of healthy churches. 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,280 And when I say healthy, I mean you know, churches that are 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,290 defined by the scriptures. So a lot of our people, they 82 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:45,370 come with wounds based on manipulation. 83 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:48,770 A lot of prosperity gospel is around. 84 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:52,770 So that is most of the reality here in the Upstate. 85 00:04:53,650 --> 00:04:54,690 And that's great. Brandon. 86 00:04:55,010 --> 00:04:58,170 Tell us some challenges that you guys have at the Espanol campus 87 00:04:58,170 --> 00:05:00,530 that are unique to you in your context. 88 00:05:00,730 --> 00:05:03,930 Yeah. So just imagine we have 14 89 00:05:03,930 --> 00:05:06,650 different countries represented, so. 90 00:05:07,340 --> 00:05:10,900 It's a cool thing, but it's a unique situation. 91 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:14,780 Our accents are different, our traditions are different. 92 00:05:14,780 --> 00:05:18,660 Even though we all speak Spanish, we have to grow and to 93 00:05:18,660 --> 00:05:22,500 be patient and be tolerant with each other. 94 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:27,460 Give us an example so you don't have to name all 14, but which 95 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:28,900 countries are we talking about? What are the big? 96 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:32,310 Five. So for instance, the Caribbean 97 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:35,430 countries, they are so loud and so energetic. 98 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:40,670 Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, they have energy all 99 00:05:40,670 --> 00:05:43,550 day long and they if they go to your house, they're going to 100 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:47,550 stay forever and they're having a good time all the time 101 00:05:47,550 --> 00:05:50,590 laughing. But then we have other countries 102 00:05:50,590 --> 00:05:54,190 like Costa Rica, we're more like laid back, like we have a phrase 103 00:05:54,190 --> 00:05:57,950 that is puta Vida, which is pure life and it means like hakuna 104 00:05:57,950 --> 00:06:00,870 matata, like, hey, take it slow. Yeah, just till. 105 00:06:00,870 --> 00:06:02,510 It's all the surfing that you. Guys do. 106 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:07,590 So you might think that we all are the same, but actually 14 107 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:10,990 different countries is it's a it's a unique opportunity, but 108 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:12,670 at the same time bring some tension. 109 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:17,590 And another challenge that we can see is, you know when you're 110 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:21,870 an immigrant in this country, you have a mentality that is 111 00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:25,470 based on work, work and work and whether you like it or not, 112 00:06:25,470 --> 00:06:27,190 you're pursuing the American Dream. 113 00:06:27,820 --> 00:06:30,500 And once you're here, your your rhythm changes. 114 00:06:30,820 --> 00:06:34,660 You're moving into a fast pace and you can easily get 115 00:06:34,660 --> 00:06:38,020 ambitious. You can easily just, you know, 116 00:06:38,020 --> 00:06:42,100 want more and more. And productivity can become an 117 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:45,940 idol. Wealth is easy, can can become 118 00:06:45,940 --> 00:06:47,860 an idol too. And you're starting to pursue 119 00:06:47,860 --> 00:06:51,060 things that are not actually going to feel your soul. 120 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:55,340 So it's been cool to see when people realize that what they 121 00:06:55,340 --> 00:06:57,380 need is not actually what they're pursuing. 122 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,080 When they realize that work, work, work and having more money 123 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,720 is not going to satisfy their souls and it's not going to be 124 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,120 good for their families either. So I'm just glad to be part of 125 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,560 this this Apple ship journey for for those families and how they 126 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,760 are embracing serving for instance, instead of just 127 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,320 working or spending time in community as a way to. 128 00:07:25,940 --> 00:07:28,620 You know, focus on things that are important. 129 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:31,140 Yeah, let's talk about that for a second because each of our 130 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:33,860 campuses has some unique attributes. 131 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:36,660 All of our English speaking campuses have unique attributes. 132 00:07:37,260 --> 00:07:40,900 That was part of our We Choose plan in the fall was to identify 133 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:45,420 some specific initiatives for each of our campus that are all 134 00:07:45,420 --> 00:07:48,740 tied to discipleship. So like what are you guys doing 135 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:51,620 that is unique to Grace and Espanol? 136 00:07:52,020 --> 00:07:54,940 Around trying to make more disciples of Jesus. 137 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:59,020 Yeah, that's a great question. A big one for us was next 138 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,340 generation. You know, we have, as I say, 139 00:08:01,340 --> 00:08:06,020 we're the same church, so we do have Fusion, we have 24/7, we 140 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:08,820 have Forge Grace, church kids and all of that. 141 00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:13,300 However, we have to adapt some of those programs to make it 142 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:15,380 relevant and effective for our kids. 143 00:08:15,420 --> 00:08:16,460 Why? Why I say that? 144 00:08:16,460 --> 00:08:20,550 Because we have. Kids who were born here and they 145 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:24,550 grew up here and they are really involved in the American culture 146 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:27,670 and language and and they are pretty much Americans. 147 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:31,790 But then we also have some families who move here three or 148 00:08:31,790 --> 00:08:36,309 six months ago who they don't, you know, manage the English 149 00:08:36,309 --> 00:08:38,990 language that well or they don't know the culture. 150 00:08:39,549 --> 00:08:44,750 So how can we disciple a group of people that is that diverse? 151 00:08:44,750 --> 00:08:49,550 It creates a lot of challenges. So you know just just think 152 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:52,910 about this. When we have to find a leader, 153 00:08:53,550 --> 00:08:57,790 he or she, they they need to be bilingual and they need to be 154 00:08:57,790 --> 00:09:00,470 able to communicate to both cultures. 155 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:04,990 So I think that with the next generation the identity is is a 156 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:08,990 big piece because for for this next generation that that is, 157 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:13,710 that is a big question. Who am I, you know, am I Latina, 158 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:16,710 am I Hispanic? What culture I belong? 159 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:22,450 So it's crucial for us to just disciple our kids and for them 160 00:09:22,450 --> 00:09:26,690 to to remember that their identities, space and Jesus and 161 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:30,570 who he said they they are. Because if you layer the 162 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:35,690 American dream mentality on top of the next generation, trying 163 00:09:35,690 --> 00:09:38,410 to figure out where they fit culturally, I can imagine it 164 00:09:38,410 --> 00:09:41,490 gets really complicated. It does get really complicated, 165 00:09:42,010 --> 00:09:46,050 so I'm just glad that we have the opportunity to serve our 166 00:09:46,050 --> 00:09:50,830 community. And just bring Jesus to their 167 00:09:50,830 --> 00:09:55,590 mentality. You had mentioned wealth and 168 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:59,990 pursuit finances. You have some unique situations 169 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:03,790 that play at play in the Grace and Espanol campus. 170 00:10:03,790 --> 00:10:06,390 Tell us a little bit about one of your initiatives around 171 00:10:06,390 --> 00:10:10,270 generosity, Yeah. Well, we actually had a class 172 00:10:10,270 --> 00:10:15,500 Money Matters last fall. And it was, it was great because 173 00:10:15,620 --> 00:10:18,460 I actually learned a lot from that class. 174 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:22,780 I learned that here's the thing, we need to grow in generosity. 175 00:10:22,820 --> 00:10:26,140 But our people is really generous. 176 00:10:26,180 --> 00:10:30,100 If you go to their houses, they're going to feed you and 177 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:34,700 probably enough for next day, you know, and they are actually 178 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:37,500 sending a lot of money to their countries. 179 00:10:37,580 --> 00:10:39,740 They are helping or even supporting. 180 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:45,300 Their families in Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Central 181 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:47,700 America. So they are being generous. 182 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:51,420 However, that's not the same story with the church. 183 00:10:51,980 --> 00:10:55,100 Unfortunately we didn't we didn't see that it translate the 184 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:58,060 same way and they're giving to to our church. 185 00:10:58,420 --> 00:11:02,660 So that creates an opportunity again for discipleship to just 186 00:11:02,660 --> 00:11:07,060 remind them that an expression of healthy. 187 00:11:07,690 --> 00:11:11,530 Disciple and follower of Christ is also to be part of what God 188 00:11:11,530 --> 00:11:14,770 is doing in their community. You have to really think well 189 00:11:14,770 --> 00:11:17,930 about the idea of family, family of origin, and then also church 190 00:11:17,930 --> 00:11:20,970 family, yeah. What are some initiatives you 191 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:24,730 guys are up to right now? Well, some things that are 192 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:28,290 really excited about that. I can tell you a little bit is 193 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:32,140 we started to have Mosaic. Because we had the. 194 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:35,460 And maybe for our listeners who don't know what that is, explain 195 00:11:35,460 --> 00:11:38,380 that too. Yeah, so Misiac is a ministry 196 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:42,740 that we have a church to disciple those individuals with 197 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:49,060 special needs In our campus. We have families with children's 198 00:11:49,220 --> 00:11:52,820 in the spectrum. So we saw the need to disciple 199 00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:56,020 them and for them to to learn also about. 200 00:11:56,890 --> 00:12:01,250 The word about Jesus and we started this this ministry, but 201 00:12:01,770 --> 00:12:04,570 it's been great because a lot of other families are getting to 202 00:12:04,570 --> 00:12:09,490 grace because they heard they find out that we have an unique 203 00:12:09,490 --> 00:12:13,010 environment for for their kids and that is that is really 204 00:12:13,010 --> 00:12:14,330 exciting. Yeah, it is. 205 00:12:14,330 --> 00:12:17,890 We the last weekend I was at Powdersville campus and someone 206 00:12:17,890 --> 00:12:21,370 came in and they had a Mosaic child and they had been going 207 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:24,690 from church to church and to see that ministry, it was such a 208 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:26,170 great ministry. That's awesome. 209 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:28,310 What are some other initiatives you guys are up to? 210 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:32,310 Well, a big one for us that happened probably a year ago was 211 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:35,110 region. We were having community groups 212 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:39,270 just like any other campus, but we saw the need for our people 213 00:12:39,270 --> 00:12:42,350 to dive deep into the gospel and grow in vulnerability. 214 00:12:42,350 --> 00:12:46,110 So we basically shut down community groups and everybody 215 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:48,150 had to go to the region. Wow. 216 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:52,470 That was a big decision, but but let me tell you, it was worth. 217 00:12:52,510 --> 00:12:55,750 How in the world did you rally your entire campus to do that? 218 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Yeah, well you know it creates some unique challenges. 219 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,600 It was not easy at first, but it was worth it. 220 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,640 You know if you have done region, you know that you have 221 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,040 to be intentional, you have to read, you have to spend time 222 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,480 along with the material. But so, so that was one of the 223 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,360 biggest challenges I think for us because you know community 224 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,440 group doesn't have that day-to-day routine in which you 225 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,320 have to spend time and be this discipline. 226 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,800 But I think that over 80 people graduated from from region and 227 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,640 it was the first church that ever done region in Spanish. 228 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,280 So Espanol campus was the first church campus that has ever gone 229 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,960 through region in Spanish. That's right. 230 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,400 So we we work with church in the Dallas Metroplex area called 231 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Watermark and they had the material and it was translated. 232 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:55,610 But we were one of we were the 1st. 233 00:13:55,650 --> 00:13:58,650 We were the 1st and. And one, and that's a large 234 00:13:58,650 --> 00:14:02,730 group, it's not 880 is a large number of individuals to go 235 00:14:02,730 --> 00:14:05,210 through. Yeah, And the material was being 236 00:14:05,210 --> 00:14:07,610 translated as we were going through the material. 237 00:14:07,610 --> 00:14:10,410 So sometimes it was really, you know, stressful because we 238 00:14:10,410 --> 00:14:14,330 needed to start step four and it was not quite ready, but 239 00:14:14,530 --> 00:14:17,410 everything worked out. Dells A couple other things that 240 00:14:17,410 --> 00:14:19,210 are happening at the campus right now. 241 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:21,410 Yeah. So it's our conference. 242 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:24,890 It's also a big. Reason for us to celebrate 243 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:30,010 because it's not just a tool for us to equip our women but also 244 00:14:30,490 --> 00:14:34,490 women from other churches and even countries or states are 245 00:14:34,490 --> 00:14:39,010 coming to to those conferences. We have the Shame Conference and 246 00:14:39,010 --> 00:14:42,810 last fall and we also have Biblical Femininity Conference. 247 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:48,290 Another reason why I'm also excited is because for a while 248 00:14:48,290 --> 00:14:51,250 we were having another service in Spartanburg. 249 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:55,580 And I was, it was it was so cool to to reach out to that 250 00:14:55,580 --> 00:15:00,180 community in this partner. But for now it was so clear that 251 00:15:00,180 --> 00:15:04,860 it was in the right next step to join together again as just one 252 00:15:04,860 --> 00:15:10,620 campus and just reunite and be concentrated to care and 253 00:15:10,620 --> 00:15:15,020 disciple for for our people because we're growing so right 254 00:15:15,020 --> 00:15:17,620 now with with both of our campuses. 255 00:15:17,970 --> 00:15:22,530 Joining in one location, we're talking about 350 adults. 256 00:15:22,770 --> 00:15:25,210 Wow. So we're excited and you know, 257 00:15:25,210 --> 00:15:26,730 we don't know what's in the future. 258 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:31,730 We may be able to open another campus or open another service, 259 00:15:32,010 --> 00:15:34,850 but for now, that's what we're doing and I'm excited to see 260 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:39,410 what Guy has for us. Who on staff is helping you care 261 00:15:39,610 --> 00:15:42,690 for this large group? Yeah, we have a great team. 262 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:48,930 Daniel Pastran is a worship leader, but he also does AV and 263 00:15:49,010 --> 00:15:52,570 help with video and slides and designs. 264 00:15:52,850 --> 00:15:56,370 Just imagine our lyrics are in Spanish, our announcements are 265 00:15:56,370 --> 00:16:00,890 in Spanish, our Facebook page is in Spanish, so we need a lot of 266 00:16:00,890 --> 00:16:03,370 translation, so he helps us with that. 267 00:16:03,850 --> 00:16:08,230 Then we have Maji Mitchell. And you know, her last name is 268 00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:12,630 not Hispanic, but she's from Columbia and she's a great 269 00:16:12,630 --> 00:16:15,390 admin, just keeping things together. 270 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:17,710 And then we have an MVP volunteer. 271 00:16:17,950 --> 00:16:21,030 Her name is Anna Casalis. She's not on staff, but she 272 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:24,540 works. With us, with students and 273 00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:27,700 children's, and she's doing a great, a great job. 274 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:31,580 Well, this has been great to hear about your staff, about the 275 00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:33,900 unique challenges that you have, the initiatives. 276 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:36,020 Is there anything else you just want to leave us with? 277 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:38,780 Yeah. I just want to ask you to, to 278 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:42,820 keep praying for us, for, for our campus, for our leaders, our 279 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:46,860 community, our groups, ministries, everything that 280 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:50,540 we're doing. And I also want to encourage you 281 00:16:50,580 --> 00:16:54,420 to invite whoever you might think that will take advantage 282 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:57,260 of service and a campus church family. 283 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:01,460 And in Spanish, our doors are open and we will just send them 284 00:17:01,460 --> 00:17:03,580 our way. Tell us a little bit where we 285 00:17:03,700 --> 00:17:05,740 where are we finding you what times of services? 286 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:12,020 So our services right now are at 11152701 Way, Hampton Blvd. 287 00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:16,790 You know Taylor's campus, they have a service at 9:15 and then 288 00:17:16,790 --> 00:17:20,710 we have a service at 11:15. And what do you do with English 289 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:21,829 speakers? Show up. 290 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:25,230 Can we come? Well, actually you're not 291 00:17:25,230 --> 00:17:26,230 invited now. I'm just kidding. 292 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:29,710 Of course you can come. We actually have our lyrics in 293 00:17:29,710 --> 00:17:31,270 English on the side. So. 294 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:33,510 So you know, you can sing in English. 295 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:36,430 That's fine. And sometimes we also have 296 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:39,710 translation for you available. So yeah, if you're you're more 297 00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:41,550 than welcome to come. That's right. 298 00:17:41,670 --> 00:17:44,950 Yeah, and I would encourage someone listening at it's home 299 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:48,190 one Sunday and they're like, you know what, I think we need to go 300 00:17:48,550 --> 00:17:51,150 try out Grayson Espanol. They just need to come. 301 00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:52,670 Don't think about it. Just show up. 302 00:17:52,910 --> 00:17:53,790 That's right. Awesome. 303 00:17:54,190 --> 00:17:55,830 Well, thanks for joining us today, Brandon. 304 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:58,390 We're really grateful for you and your family and your staff. 305 00:17:58,430 --> 00:18:00,670 It's been a great interview. Thank you guys I. 306 00:18:00,870 --> 00:18:03,780 See you, Brandon, here. Well, as we wrap up today's 307 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:06,700 episode, I hope you were encouraged by what you heard. 308 00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:07,620 Please be. Sure to. 309 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:10,140 Check out the podcast page located in the Show Notes For 310 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:12,740 more information and additional resources. 311 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:15,300 Thanks for joining us today. And we look forward to joining 312 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:16,580 you. On the next episode.