1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:09,280 Verse 25 of Hebrews, Chapter 10 Let us not neglect meaning that 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,040 we are going to make a choice as we do life together. 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,640 We're going to commit to actually be together in time and 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,480 space, Not through our phones, not infrequently, but 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,000 frequently. We're going to do that. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,280 The average of Christian American goes to church one to 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,280 two times a month. Let me just say it we don't want 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,040 to be average. Welcome back to the Grace Church 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,920 Podcast 2024 Edition. My name is Scott Mazingo. 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,840 I'm your host today, and our goal here is to equip, 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,880 encourage, and inspire you in your devotion to God and others. 12 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,360 Today we have Tanner Corley and Blake Payne with us. 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Hello friends, how are we? Pretty good. 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,080 How about you? We're doing good. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Good, good. Hey, why don't you guys 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,040 introduce yourselves? Tell us a little bit about what 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,840 you do here at the church and maybe a little bit about your 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,480 family. Yeah, I'm Tanner. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,760 I lead worship over at the Powdersville campus and I'm the 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,320 video director, my wife and three kids. 21 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,280 We've been here for almost eight years. 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,920 And new addition just had a third child. 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Yep #3. Congratulations. 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Thanks for making time out of your busy schedule to be with 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,120 here. Be with us here. 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Blake. What about you? 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,320 My name is Blake. I lost my voice this week, so 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,680 I'm going to sound amazing this whole time. 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,920 So it's probably not the podcast cutting out. 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,200 It's probably just my voice. Yeah. 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,880 But I work here at Pelham and I've been on staff for about 8 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,200 years and I also have three kids. 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,600 We have three daughters, as many of you know, that's what. 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,960 Girl dad. Girl dad. 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,200 That's what we do. One thing is certain, we met 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,720 girls. Well, I I'm really excited for 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,080 this conversation. Our topic, I didn't mention that 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,960 earlier, but we are discussing faithfully gathered which is a a 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,200 reworking of a core value. You would have heard this from 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,400 the stage recently in a vision piece. 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,680 And so we want to just tell you a little bit more about how that 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,760 language came to be. And yeah, just kind of catch you 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,480 up on some some thoughts and further some thoughts on that. 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,480 So Tanner, why don't you take the lead and just tell us a 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,000 little bit about how we got here? 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Yeah, so about a year ago, there's a group of us that were 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,280 going through a class, Blake, Blake included. 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,480 And we were tasked with a ministry project kind of look 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,960 around at the church and see where we could put some energy 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,480 and maybe some time and and so this is not necessarily a new 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,760 idea but something that's kind of been in the works for a long 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,320 time. But just the kind of got started 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,920 thinking about worship, how does worship intersect with our core 54 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:03,760 values is it is, it is value for us but it's not really talked 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,720 about in foundations. And so it kind of got started 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,560 there and Scott, me and you, we talked about it a little bit 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:15,120 early, early on and just trying to see how how that kind of was 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,800 going to intersect our core values. 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,000 So you're, you guys are in a kind of a pastoral leadership 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,320 kind of a training class to cover in a lot of different 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,600 topics. And one of those is to look at 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,480 an area of our church that you feel like needs to be addressed 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,760 or some additional work done or just just some thoughts, 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,760 something that you care about. And so with your background in 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,720 worship, you're like, OK, where does this fit? 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,720 How do we communicate this is a value? 67 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,920 Is that kind of Fair to say? And then where did that journey, 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,640 Where did that take you? Where did it lead you? 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Yeah, a lot of a lot of conversations. 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 With a lot of different. People just trying to ask that 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,520 question of how to how do you think that worship intersects 72 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:01,320 our core values and so as we kind of look back over the past 73 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,080 couple years COVID was a a big part of kind of helping kick 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,400 start what what all this was and. 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,960 What was, what was that? Yeah. 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,560 So I know we're tired of talking about it, but what I mean, it 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,040 has been four years since it started, but it really was a 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,440 really was a big changer for for a lot of things And so church 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,840 included. And So what were we seeing 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,520 coming back a couple years ago coming out of COVID that was 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,040 informing the way you were thinking about what our 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,200 gatherings look like? We were starting to see that the 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:41,040 value of gathering started to decrease and as the role of 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,120 technology started to increase and how that we were, we were 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:52,120 good to use that technology to consume on our own terms, to get 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,240 sermons and quote UN quote, be be gathered together, be a part 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,080 of something without actually being in space with people. 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Couple things that we noticed coming out of COVID were that we 89 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,680 had spent a bunch of money on tents in order to have services 90 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,720 outside and have a safe, safe service. 91 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,600 And then we also had an online service. 92 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,760 And we felt that as we started to come back that it was 93 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,960 actually deterring some people and they were good to have 94 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,600 service on their own terms and be at home and not come back and 95 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,720 be in service with other believers. 96 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,760 And then one other thing is all across the upstate, almost every 97 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Sunday, we have groups of people going into assisted living 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,840 communities and bringing services there. 99 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,800 And so you start putting all those things together. 100 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,200 And we started to realize that this idea of faithfully 101 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,480 gathering is way more than just what what is happening on a 102 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,360 Sunday morning. And so we we saw that we 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,320 actually lacked some language around it. 104 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,000 This is already a core value for us. 105 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,080 This is always already something that we're valuing. 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,880 And so it just lacks some clarity. 107 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,320 And so that was what part of why we started working on all this. 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,280 So as you begin to connect the dots, how did some of this 109 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:24,240 language start to form Tanner? The initial idea that I brought 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,880 to the leadership team was to add a core value, add faithfully 111 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,360 gathered to the six core values that we already had, right? 112 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,240 And as I was kind of explaining it, Scofield piped in. 113 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,080 And he said he's like, how does that intersect with relationally 114 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,040 connected? And so that kind of that 115 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,760 conversation started happening and we we started to think about 116 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,240 how that might play into even even meeting in smaller groups 117 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,560 not just meeting together on a Sunday or Saturday night service 118 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,040 But but how does that this value actually encapsulate some of 119 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,440 what relationally connected was was to was talking about. 120 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,600 Yeah, 'cause I think Bill made the statement that the, you 121 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,920 know, the Bible doesn't really differentiate between large 122 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,040 gatherings, medium sized gatherings, small gatherings. 123 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,200 It's talking about the the gathering of God's people. 124 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:22,000 And yeah, the relationally connected language I was a part 125 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,640 of helping shape some of that. And it has been 20 years, so 126 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,080 I'll speak as the only person that wasn't in middle school in 127 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,720 the room 20 years ago. You. 128 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Could just say old. No, no, I'm just trying to help. 129 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,400 You out the language would save some time. 130 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,200 No, no. So but it's interesting that the 131 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,520 same idea that we were, we just talked about the expression of 132 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,240 individualism. The version of that 20 years ago 133 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,320 was I don't need other people. It's just me and Jesus, me and 134 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,480 God and my quiet time and my Bible and my prior life. 135 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,320 That's all I need. And if I can get in a good 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,480 church where there's some good teaching and that is all I need 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,880 to really grow spiritually. And so we had to help people 138 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,360 think, no God put relationships together. 139 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,880 God brought together the community of faith for a reason. 140 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,080 And God has always worked with a with a corporate aspect. 141 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,480 You know, God called a people together when he called Abraham 142 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,720 to form a nation. When we get to the New 143 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,400 Testament, God's talking to churches, we just read those 144 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,480 primarily letters individually, and that's that's our fault. 145 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,520 That's our misreading that God has always spoke to groups of 146 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,880 people and that the Spirit has a full fuller expression when you 147 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,840 have all these different gifted individuals that come together 148 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,600 and they gather together. And so we were working really 149 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,480 hard to reclaim that 20 years ago that you know, community 150 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 wasn't just icing on the cake, that it was a big part of the 151 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,040 cake, it was a big part of how we experience God. 152 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:06,600 And so Fast forward doesn't seem to be such a a a a new idea 153 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,400 anymore. In fact that idea of being 154 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,920 connected, maybe we're over connected now in some ways less 155 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 helpful, but you know we have these types of digital 156 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,720 connections and all types of relationships and friendships. 157 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:27,880 And so it just felt like that language maybe had run, run its 158 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,880 course a little bit. And I think that's where we got 159 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,120 to let's take the faithfully gathered and let's do a little 160 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,520 bit of replacement language with relationally connected. 161 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Yeah, 'cause it's almost assumed that you would be relationally 162 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,720 connected at a church. Exactly. 163 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,320 It is. It is. 164 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,760 That's what a lot. That's what drives a lot of 165 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,560 people, honestly, to church. I mean, they might enjoy the 166 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,920 singing, which we have great singing. 167 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,520 They might enjoy the teaching. But a lot of folks are in need 168 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,240 or they notice the need that they have for relationships. 169 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,920 So they come to the church looking for those relationships, 170 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,240 and we're defining what kind of relationships those need to be. 171 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Not just friendships, but spiritual friendships. 172 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,280 But yes, to your point, it's all under this banner of what does 173 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,440 it mean to come and be faithfully gathered? 174 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,200 Yeah, I I get a chance to work with a lot of our new folks that 175 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,080 are coming in and it's fascinating. 176 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,040 I mean just the last discovery we did this last month, we 177 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,360 probably had fifty, I think we had 51 people and it's 178 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:37,920 interesting 71%, about 70 to 71% of the folks in there were from 179 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,760 out of state, not even from not just not from Greenville, but 180 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 not even from South Carolina. So that's interesting. 181 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,960 The other thing that's interesting is most everybody 182 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,720 that comes in here, the first thing that they say like the 183 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,160 initial desire, which I think this is a good desire, but it 184 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,760 is, hey, I want to be connected, want community. 185 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,760 And so it's funny like and then they say we want to be in Group 186 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,560 and I'm like, well, how do y'all even know we have groups? 187 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:11,160 Like it's just to your point, it's just this, this assumption 188 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,720 that this is what y'all do and I'm sure y'all have groups and 189 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,720 that's what I want to do. And obviously we believe in 190 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,040 people knowing each other, doing life together. 191 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,080 But the other thing I would add too about the reworking updating 192 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,800 of the language is that we also, we also had some people that 193 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,240 would have told you they were relationally connected, right? 194 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,280 But we're actually missing some components of God's view on 195 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,320 gathering and actually what it really means to be connected, 196 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:43,880 right. And whether that meant reducing 197 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,360 relationally connected to friendships or relationships 198 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,920 that produce certain outcomes, whether that was networking or 199 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,320 business or I go to church with people that I work with, 200 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,080 whatever that meant. We also thought that people that 201 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,840 had that language in there, we're still missing something. 202 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,000 Sure, that's right. So let's spend a little bit of 203 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,280 time just talking about that. Like when we say faithfully 204 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:12,080 gathered, what do we mean? Yeah, it's a good question. 205 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,640 You know, when I think about that from a biblical 206 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,960 perspective, before I even jump into my own thoughts trying to 207 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,240 let the Scriptures really speak to this, I think about Hebrews 208 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:32,280 10 and it says, let us hold tightly without wavering to the 209 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,360 hope we affirm. For God can be trusted to keep 210 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,400 his promise was the first half. And then right after that it 211 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,920 says, let us think of ways to motivate one another, two acts 212 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,720 of love and good works. And let us not neglect our 213 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,160 meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, 214 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,760 especially now that the day of his return is drawing near. 215 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,040 And so when I think about it from a biblical perspective, it 216 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,680 seems like the authors of the Scriptures that you said 217 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:04,440 earlier, as they're writing to these local churches have to 218 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,400 continually remind people, hey, don't neglect, hey, don't 219 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,600 neglect, whatever you're doing, don't neglect. 220 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Which is interesting. It means that even back then. 221 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,120 So COVID highlighted it for us. Right. 222 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,000 But it didn't create the problem. 223 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,240 The problem has been around for a long time, and even in this 224 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,400 church, whoever this writer of Hebrews is speaking to, he's 225 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,480 saying don't forget, don't neglect, which teaches me this. 226 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,920 It teaches me that even back then they would have had 227 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,800 reasons, whether legitimate or illegitimate, that were causing 228 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,640 them to not be together. And apparently that's not 229 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,200 working. Yeah, spirituality on my terms 230 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,720 seems to be a condition that humanity has always struggled 231 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,440 with. Right. 232 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,800 Jesus has a lot of thoughts for that. 233 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Yeah, yeah. And and so when you put a group 234 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,800 of people together, it would it would make sense that that would 235 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 have to be something that that would be reminded. 236 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Of That's right. So when I think about faithfully 237 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,400 gathering, I think I start actually with seemingly a human 238 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,360 condition that naturally we wander away, right? 239 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Naturally we are people that are going to get distracted, that 240 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,800 are going to get swept up into multiple reasons, multiple 241 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,640 things that give us reasons to not be together. 242 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,800 And I think you have, you have two sides of a spectrum, like on 243 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,200 one side of a spectrum like we have a lot of people in our 244 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,920 church that are going through difficult times, that are 245 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,760 suffering. And I mean, we all know this 246 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,440 about suffering, like suffering can produce 2 results. 247 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:47,920 It can produce an unbelievable faith and hope and trust, or it 248 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,320 can create doubt and fear and can push you away. 249 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,320 And so I don't know if this would, if that's what would have 250 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 been happening for them, probably more so that's true for 251 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,400 them. They would have been dealing 252 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,320 with difficult things. He's trying to tell them to hang 253 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,960 on, keep your hope, right. Even though you're suffering, 254 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,520 like we got to still be faithful. 255 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,440 So suffering's one side, I think it's one thing that pushes 256 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,560 people away from gathering. The other end is success. 257 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,280 So we got a lot of successful people, and with success comes 258 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:26,880 opportunity comes, weekend events comes, you name it. 259 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,480 And all of those things that success brings to our life. 260 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,720 Good things, right? God wants them to have gifts 261 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,680 often times from Him, but they're things that can create 262 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 distraction and distance from us, from being with God's 263 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,480 people. And if it was a problem for 264 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,000 these folks and if it didn't work for these folks, I think 265 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,720 it's it's not going to work for us either. 266 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,600 We, whether you're in the middle of a trial or whether you're in 267 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,400 the middle of the, you know, the most successful season of your 268 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,760 life, like we have to make sure that we are orienting ourselves, 269 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,600 coming back to the middle and calibrating ourselves around 270 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,440 other believers. And so when I think about 271 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,040 faithfully gathering, I think about a value that helps us 272 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,600 prioritize something that would be a natural temptation. 273 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Yeah, that's a really, really good framework. 274 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,560 And we always want to make sure that we use the word orientation 275 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,240 when we talk about being biblically oriented. 276 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,720 We want to conform our lives to the scriptures. 277 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,240 And so Tanner, what are a couple of other verses as you put 278 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,600 together this language that that informed so the so the folks can 279 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,320 go and even do some study on their own? 280 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Yeah, I mean you go to Acts 2 and verse 42, it says. 281 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,040 And they devoted themselves to the apostles teaching and to the 282 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,600 fellowship and the breaking of bread and the prayers. 283 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,280 And then later on in Colossians, he says, let the message about 284 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,680 Christ in all its richness fill their lives, teach and counsel 285 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,400 each other with all wisdom that he gives, sing psalms and hymns 286 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,920 and spiritual songs to God with thankful hearts. 287 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,599 And whatever you do, do it as a representative of the Lord 288 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,680 Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the Father. 289 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,000 And so you gotta think in Colossians, I mean, they're not 290 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 singing alone. And he's, he's talking, like you 291 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,400 said, talking to a group of people and he's, he's 292 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,800 encouraging them, hey, get together and counsel one 293 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,960 another, encourage one another. Give wisdom, sing together. 294 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,320 And it's just another. I mean later also it talks about 295 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,800 being baptized, Communion and Corinthians. 296 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,000 I mean just these also these sacraments that we have, they're 297 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,200 done in the context of the body. And so these are all biblical 298 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,360 grounds for eating together, being together. 299 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,440 I love it. Love it. 300 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,400 So it does beg the question, though faithful is a loaded 301 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,600 word. It's one of the biggest problems 302 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,480 with language is when you assume you mean the same thing, right? 303 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,440 So what we mean when we say faithful, let me give you 2 304 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,000 layers of it that I think can kind of help encompass the full 305 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,320 kind of the full framework of how we're thinking about it. 306 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,480 One layer would be committed and that word's pretty 307 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,840 self-explanatory, right? Just verse 25 of Hebrews, 308 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Chapter 10, let us not neglect meaning that we are going to 309 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,160 make a choice as we do life together. 310 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,800 We're going to commit to actually be together in time and 311 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,680 space, not through our phones, not infrequently, but 312 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,160 frequently. We're going to do that. 313 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,480 The average of Christian American goes to church one to 314 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,480 two times a month. Let me just say it We don't want 315 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,600 to be average as a church. We want to. 316 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,880 We have bigger sites than that. We have bigger vision than that. 317 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,840 So we would not consider that to be committed. 318 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,880 No, once, no, we would not say that is being committed. 319 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,960 We would say that that is frequent at best. 320 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,760 Yeah. And probably not enough for you 321 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,320 to experience the blessings of this cause. 322 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,120 Here's what I would say. You might hear faithfully 323 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,680 gathered and think, man, they expect a lot, and we do. 324 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 But the reason we expect a lot is because, like, God uses this 325 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,800 and brings blessing in our life. We don't care about our numbers. 326 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,680 We're not trying to check boxes. We're not trying to track you as 327 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,080 you walk in. Like we're trying to say, like 328 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,720 what does it take for you to experience the benefit of being 329 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,840 in God's Kingdom and faithful means being committed, which 330 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,760 means probably more than once a month, right? 331 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,640 Yeah, it means you're putting a value on it. 332 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,600 It means that you're backing that value up with your time. 333 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,000 You know, I think about families. 334 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,720 I think about sports. You know, if you have a child 335 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,120 playing a sport and they went to one out of every four practices, 336 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,400 2 out of every four practices, 1 they'd be missing out on a lot 337 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,040 and and two, they probably wouldn't be growing very much in 338 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,840 this skill in the sport that you have designated as important for 339 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,640 them. Now I coached the AU basketball 340 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,640 like five years ago. My team, they didn't miss any 341 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,120 practice. It was fascinating. 342 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,400 I had a kid drive 2 hours every night, every every time we 343 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,880 practiced. He never missed. 344 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,040 To be a part of a team. That's right. 345 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,080 And when we're talking about a faithful and gathering of church 346 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,800 folks, I mean, what more, how much more important is it to be 347 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,080 spiritually minded with brothers and sisters in Christ doing life 348 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,520 together, being conformed to the image of Christ, which is not 349 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,840 easy. And and seeing the need that we 350 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,720 have for each other, seeing this kind of Kingdom and eternal 351 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,880 purpose. I mean, that's not just church 352 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,440 talk, folks. I mean, that is really what 353 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,160 we're trying to do as we devote ourselves to Christ into one 354 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,680 another and and we're just calling out what's obvious is 355 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,520 that we need each other. Right. 356 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,440 And our average church service is an hour and 20 minutes. 357 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,680 If you just strip it all back, just the notion that I can give 358 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:08,440 3 hours a month to my church experience and it'd be 359 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,080 beneficial, it's just not a great notion to start with, you 360 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,800 know. And I mean, I even think on a 361 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,080 relational level, like I heard this a long time ago, I think 362 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Matt said it just there's no such thing as quality time. 363 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,840 You can't ensure that the time you set aside for that date 364 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,560 night to trapdoor to get that. Well, if you got a trapdoor, 365 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,000 it's almost guaranteed quality time. 366 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,080 But like, you know, I mean, who knows what's going on? 367 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,080 The date night might have taken everything you had just to get 368 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,280 out of the door and you got in a fight right before you left. 369 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,880 So it's going to take an hour and a half just to get back on 370 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,560 each other's good side, you know? 371 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,280 And then the date's over because you can't pay for childcare 372 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,360 anymore. So the idea of quality time is 373 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,480 just it's a little bit of a facade. 374 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,080 It's a misnomer. What you can ensure though, is 375 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:58,400 that the more accurate way to ensure relationship quality is 376 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,400 just quantity time over time. When you do it and do it again, 377 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,720 one of the dates is going to work. 378 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Yeah, we need reps. We need reps and I think the way 379 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,880 that we treat people and relationships in the church like 380 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,480 you never know the Sunday that God has something for you that's 381 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,920 going to that's going to move the needle. 382 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,840 You never know when the Spirit's going to show up or you're you 383 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,040 never know the the the time you're going to walk into the 384 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,520 lobby and meet the person that just moved here from Atlanta 385 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,040 with a special needs daughter and guess what you have a 386 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,480 special needs daughter and that's going to start a 387 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,640 relationship that leads to 1020 years of doing life together. 388 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Here's I mean you just never know when that's going to 389 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,160 happen. And so I think that's where us 390 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,640 being committed, it just gives everybody and this whole thing, 391 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,600 this whole experiment a better chance to really catch momentum 392 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,760 and then it creates space for God to show up. 393 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,440 So that would be layer one committed, the second layer of 394 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:59,000 faithful would be engaged. And so verse 24 let us think of 395 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,160 ways to motivate one another to acts of love and good works. 396 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,440 So we don't want to just assume we just we just said a whole lot 397 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,760 about committed. But here's the slight nuance 398 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,880 that I think is worth saying. We don't just want to assume 399 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,400 that by you coming that it all that we just said is going to 400 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,480 happen. It's got to be more than just 401 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,120 being here and being faithful. Being and being committed is no 402 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:27,560 doubt half of the equation, but this idea of engagement is the 403 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,280 other half. And we're not making this up 404 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,560 like the New Testament is just littered with the House of what 405 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,000 it means to be together, of what it looks like to engage. 406 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,760 It doesn't just say show up, right. 407 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,520 There's fifty, there's 59 one another's in the Bible, and the 408 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240 phrase occurs about 100 times in the New Testament. 409 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Say that one more time, how many are? 410 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,600 59 One another's meaning. There are 59 different commands 411 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,280 of ways that we need to actually engage each other, and that idea 412 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,680 of one another comes up about 100 times in the New Testament. 413 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,640 So God doesn't just care about us gathering. 414 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,200 He cares about how we gather. Yeah. 415 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,960 So let me give you a couple this. 416 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,760 I think that'll help frame this out. 417 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,640 When we, when we say faithful, here's what we mean. 418 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,000 We mean that we are, we're committing. 419 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,400 And when we are, when we're here, we're confessing sin to 420 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,360 each other, we're praying for each other, we're serving one 421 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,400 another, we're loving one another, We're bearing each 422 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,440 other's burdens. And I mean, there's a ton more. 423 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Let me just pick on that last one for a second. 424 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Like if you were committed, but you're not bearing anybody's 425 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,560 burdens, then I would say you're missing out. 426 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,520 And the same is true if you're committed and you're coming, but 427 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280 you've not really opened up your life in any way for somebody to 428 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,520 bear your burdens and your shoulders are heavier than they 429 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,720 need to be. And so being faithful is about 430 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,280 far more than just coming. It's about doing life with God's 431 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 people while we follow Jesus together. 432 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,160 And I think that idea of being committed and engaged if we can 433 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,440 if we can strive for that, I think it will unlock a new 434 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,480 version of church which is why I think the language is great good 435 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,800 work Tanner And if you're wondering man that sounds like a 436 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,760 productive ministry project. All the other ministry projects, 437 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,400 they all failed in comparison to Tanners because he. 438 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,400 He took. Over a core value. 439 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,400 So I'm not even going to tell you about mine because it was, 440 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,600 you know, it was humiliating, but good for him. 441 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,200 But that language, like that, faithfully gathering it, will 442 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,680 unlock for us new potentials. Well, and I love what you're 443 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800 talking about because you're you're you're talking about 444 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,040 raising the level of expectation and anticipation of what God 445 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,720 wants to do when his people come together. 446 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,240 And I think we just have really really low kind of individual, 447 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:56,920 consumeristic standards and we have to be able to match God's 448 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,960 desires with our own desires. So that means we have to take on 449 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,360 the mind of Christ, see other people the way he sees them as 450 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,120 image bearers. We have to be willing to see our 451 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,840 need that that can be met by other folks and we have to be 452 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600 able to give and receive. And for a lot of us, it's a lot 453 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,960 easier to give than it is to receive. 454 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,840 However, a lot of times we're giving on our own terms and 455 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,560 we're not really giving in abundance. 456 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,440 And that's because I don't think we're really good at receiving. 457 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,440 And if we were better at receiving, then I think we would 458 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,480 be more likely to give in in abundance and not just give a 459 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,520 percentage that we feel good to give. 460 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,960 And I'm not talking financially at all. 461 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,600 I'm talking about our time. I'm talking about our influence. 462 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,000 I'm talking about our expertise. I'm talking about just sitting 463 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,400 with people that that just need love and care. 464 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840 I'm talking about having your schedule disrupted. 465 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,920 And so all of that is, is part of what it means to, I think, to 466 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:59,600 be faithful and to to have the same expectations for our 467 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840 gatherings that that God has when we gather. 468 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,200 No doubt. No doubt. 469 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,120 Yeah. And the other piece is that. 470 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,280 But I think you have to think about that. 471 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,720 I was talking about worship earlier. 472 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,320 I think in my experience, responding to what God has for 473 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,240 you is always incremental. And I think that's one of the 474 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,080 pitfalls of, I don't know, let's just say modern American 475 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,200 churches that we can come and create this unbelievable 476 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,760 experience where my whole life gets uprooted and I'm on fire 477 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,560 for Jesus. And you know, I just, I do 478 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,960 services all the time. They just don't normally work 479 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,880 that way. Maybe for one person out there 480 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,200 or two people out there. But usually what happens is we 481 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520 start a series in the book of James, and by the end of the 482 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,840 series I got two things that God's not letting me let go of. 483 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,200 And so it's just, it's slow, it's incremental. 484 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,680 And that's where I think the faithfully gathering piece is so 485 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,520 important is because it's just going to be hard to hear if 486 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,960 we're not here. And it's going to be hard to 487 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,680 move if we're trying to go at at a super expedited pace because 488 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,680 movement just doesn't normally happen like that. 489 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,160 It's slower and it's more incremental. 490 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,520 Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's why it's important that the New 491 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,160 Testament calls us to to baptism and communion there. 492 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,400 Those think both of those things are done within a community of 493 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,640 people. They're done with one another. 494 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,960 And you're witnessing A baptism. That's what it is. 495 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,840 It's a public confession. Going, dying, coming back up, I 496 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,800 mean, and then communion, getting around the table with 497 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,880 other believers. It's a meal together, 498 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,960 fellowship. It's all of that. 499 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,720 And so those are those both of those things that God has given 500 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,040 us are to be done together with one another. 501 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,600 To your point, like. Yeah. 502 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400 So when we when we're eating a meal, we're not eating alone, 503 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,560 reading with a spiritual family. When we are being baptized, 504 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,920 we're not exclaiming our individual relationship with 505 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,720 God. We're also being baptized into a 506 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,840 community of faith. That's why it's public. 507 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,120 That's why it was a public witness. 508 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Yeah. No, I think this is great, 509 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720 'cause you're seeing hopefully all these pieces come together 510 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,560 of it's it's things that we're already doing, but we're trying 511 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,080 to put some language that what's the importance of language? 512 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080 One is it it gives you confidence. 513 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920 It it gives, it gives an explanation, but it really gives 514 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,840 you confidence. And then when you see it 515 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,120 happening on a week after week basis, you're like, yes, that is 516 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,200 what we are striving to do. Striving to be is a faithfully 517 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,160 gathered group of folks. Yeah, when I think about this is 518 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,160 not my definition. I stole it a couple years ago. 519 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Just the idea of culture. Who are we? 520 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,880 And the definition for culture was people like us do things 521 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,560 like this. And I would. 522 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,360 I want us to be a church where we could say people like us 523 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,160 faithfully gather. Yeah, yeah, that's great. 524 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,320 Anything else guys, as we seek to close this? 525 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,800 Yeah, I would just say, you know one thing about this idea of us 526 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,480 even reworking, updating core value. 527 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:23,600 I mean, we're just trying to be faithful to Jesus and whatever 528 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,440 that takes from now and to eternity. 529 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Like, as long as Grace Church exists, I am excited to be a 530 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,840 part of a place where we are willing to key in on the right 531 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600 things, make the appropriate changes so that we can call 532 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,480 ourselves to the right things. You know? 533 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,880 And one day we'll be old like you, Scott, and we'll probably 534 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120 come back and change faithfully gathered in 15 years because 535 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,320 it'll need to be changed. But until then, it's just that 536 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720 it really represents the fact that we're trying to pay 537 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,080 attention and we're trying to follow God right now, and we're 538 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,240 trying to fight against the temptations that we have right 539 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600 now so that we can be faithful right now. 540 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,000 And then we'll just trust God to to take that and bless us and do 541 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,760 with it what he wants. Yeah, yeah, that's good. 542 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,360 Well, thanks guys. Enjoyed this discussion. 543 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,120 Hopefully you guys see a little bit of how decisions are made 544 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,840 and how language is formed. And really it's it's the desire 545 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,360 to all of our core values are really built around the idea of 546 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,040 what is faithful expression of following Jesus. 547 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,800 What does that look like? And so we are firmly saying that 548 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,760 you can't follow Jesus well unless you're committed to 549 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320 faithfully gathering. And so hopefully that'll be an 550 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,840 encouragement to you as we look at our own schedules, as we look 551 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,080 at our own priorities, as we look at our own lives and maybe 552 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,640 we all be better at doing that this year. 553 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,920 So thanks, gentlemen. Appreciate it. 554 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Thank you. Good work, Tanner.