1 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:06,700 Welcome back or to the grace church members podcast, I'm your 2 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:10,200 host Chris rivers and am excited to be joining you today when you 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,900 think of Pentecost, what is the first thing that comes to your 4 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:14,200 mind? Do you understand? 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,600 Its meaning Old Testament beginnings and what happened on 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,300 Pentecost? Well, in this episode with Jim 7 00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:23,800 Taylor and Brian Darnell, we talk about the implications of 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,400 spirit and dwelling Believers. We have a great conversation 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,900 about what members can look forward to about May. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,200 Eight Pentecost services and how we can think about this 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,200 important discipleship moment, Okay, let's listen in on this 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,300 discussion. Alright, great to see you guys 13 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,800 today. Good to be here. 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,700 Well guys, just to catch us up to speed. 15 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:47,200 Brian reached out to me last week to see if we could do an 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,200 impromptu espisode to share with our members to help us prepare 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,800 for a special Pentecost teaching that we have planned on May 28 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,800 this coming weekend. So we actually had an episode 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,400 planned and that we were going to post. 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,800 But Brian, you felt. It was important for us to maybe 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,500 pause that and do this episode. So Brian why don't you tell us 22 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:07,700 what you were thinking? Yeah thanks Chris. 23 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:10,100 For letting me kind of interrupt your plan. 24 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:13,200 But I just was thinking about Pentecost coming up and this 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,200 will be our second year, taking a real swing at Pentecost and 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,500 emphasizing it in a new way as a church. 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,400 And I was just thinking, personally, I'm a worship 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,100 leader, get to lead worship every week. 29 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:25,400 I think about our services, our content, what we do on the 30 00:01:25,408 --> 00:01:28,100 weekends. And I was like, what would it 31 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:30,400 look like for us to have a conversation and get a little 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,200 bit of the behind the scenes of, why should this be important to 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,900 us as a body as a church? And so I asked Jim Taylor to 34 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:40,800 come and bring His wisdom, bring all of his knowledge and 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,600 everything that he does with our teaching team. 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,800 And just give us a little context on what is Pentecost. 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,300 Anyways, yeah, the word Pentecost means 50th, which is 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,100 kind of weird name for a holiday, right? 39 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:57,000 But that comes from reference to this Feast, that was celebrated 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,900 in Israel and this feasts happened. 50 days after Passover 41 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:06,200 or seven weeks after the Sabbath after the Passover. 42 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:09,800 So, it was called the Feast of Weeks it was a one-day Harvest 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,100 Festival and probably be worth reading, Leviticus 23, 15 and 16 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,200 just because it describes it. So it says in Leviticus 23 from 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,800 the day. After the Sabbath day, you bring 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,500 the bundle of grain to be lifted up. 47 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:28,700 As a special offering count off seven full weeks, keep counting 48 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:32,800 until the day after the seventh Sabbath. 50 days later, then 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,300 present, an offering of new grain to the Lord. 50 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:37,700 So yeah, this Festival where they're growing. 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,100 Grain. And this is kind of the, the 52 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:43,700 firstfruits, right? When it starts to produce, then 53 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:46,600 you celebrate that, right? God is taking care of us. 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,400 I mean, you got to, you got to put yourself back into the 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,100 mindset of what would it be like to live in an agrarian society? 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,300 Where if God doesn't send rain and your crops, don't grow you 57 00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:59,900 starve, right? So this is, this is worth 58 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:04,200 celebrating and really, that's, that's the origins of Pentecost, 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,100 50 days after Passover, we're going to celebrate New grain. 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,500 Now that's that context is fascinating is probably not the 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,300 text that we're all familiar with. 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,900 Probably not those festivals. You know you're not reading 63 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:18,700 Leviticus all the time. You know I did in college. 64 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,800 No this is why this is helpful so tell us a little bit. 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,200 So what happened with the apostles? 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Obviously we can read it in Acts but give us a little context. 67 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:32,000 Yeah so when you read about Pentecost in Acts chapter 2, I 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,500 mean there's there's a few things that have taken place, 69 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:39,100 right? One of the And I mean takes 70 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:41,700 takes us a little bit of work to kind of get back to what they 71 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:44,800 were feeling. But Jesus had come, you know, he 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,500 had, he had died, he'd been resurrected and then he ascends 73 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:50,500 to heaven. So he hangs around for a little 74 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:53,800 while and then all of a sudden they're looking around and he 75 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,600 has raised up into a cloud and there's a couple Angels there. 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,900 It says, hey don't freak out. He's going to come back someday 77 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:04,600 the same way, you saw him go, but then imagine what it would 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,400 be like to be in their world, where Are, you know, you asked 79 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,800 the question? Where does God live, right? 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,600 I'm and and the answer is, well, he lived originally in Eden but 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,399 then that was lost. And, you know, Adam and Eve were 82 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:24,400 exiled and then he lived in the Tabernacle, you know, between 83 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,300 the Ark of the Covenant. That's where his visible 84 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:27,500 presence. Dwelled. 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,900 And then Tabernacle kind of gets rolled into the temple. 86 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:34,100 That Solomon built will then when the temples destroyed and 87 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:37,500 their exiled to Babylon, then they come back and rebuild it. 88 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,800 But everybody's real sad, you know, and God got a silent. 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,300 There's like 400 years of Silence where he's not speaking, 90 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:48,900 nobody's prophesying Jesus comes on the scene and Jesus is like, 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,700 I'm the temple. I mean, we just studied that in 92 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:53,400 John Chapter 2, not too long ago. 93 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:56,500 And so, then everybody kind of these disciples. 94 00:04:56,500 --> 00:05:00,700 They see him as the Messiah, they rally around him. 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,400 He's crucified resurrected and then a sins. 96 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:05,900 And now, what would you be thinking? 97 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:12,400 I guess we just pray and wait, you know, he promised that his 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,300 Spirit would come but that's what they're doing. 99 00:05:14,300 --> 00:05:17,100 That's what you see happening and the beginning of the book of 100 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:20,900 Acts as they're just, you got about 120 people who are 101 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:25,500 gathered together and they're just waiting and praying and 102 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:29,200 that's kind of the set up for Pentecost, right? 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Like God, we don't know where God is, what's he doing? 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,100 We're just kind of waiting and so that's that's kind of What 105 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:40,500 was going on at the time when the spirit actually arrives? 106 00:05:40,700 --> 00:05:42,200 Yeah, that's great. You were talking me through some 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,700 of that earlier, and I was trying to put myself in the 108 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:49,700 shoes of an Old Testament follower without the spirit. 109 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:52,800 What it would have looked like today Lee attempt to walk in 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,400 obedience without that kind of access to the spirit. 111 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:57,600 Yeah, yeah. And it's just hard to get your 112 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,000 mind around what it would look like. 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,400 We're so used to it, such a comfortable thing for us to know 114 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,600 we have a comforter right an advocate with us an access to 115 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,500 him. Yeah. 116 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:09,700 It's fascinating. So could you maybe like bet. 117 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:12,200 We see the gospels, the gospels end. 118 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:15,800 Jesus is gone. And so, then the church is born. 119 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:18,900 We see work is happening. And then, could you like bring 120 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,000 us up, like, what happened at Pentecost? 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,900 Sure. Yeah. 122 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:25,100 Yeah. Let me, let me start by kind of 123 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:27,500 going back into the Old Testament, a little time, right? 124 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:32,200 I think that'll give us a good. A good sense of the significance 125 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,800 of what we see happening on that day. 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,000 Yeah, so if you go back, Back, you know, all the way back to 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,700 Genesis 15 when God Appears to Abram. 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,700 And he makes a covenant with Abram when God Appears to him. 129 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,800 It says that that he appeared like a smoking cauldron or 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 flaming torch. I that's what passes through 131 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,800 these animals that have been severed. 132 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,100 When God makes this promise to Abraham and God is basically 133 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,500 saying, hey, if I don't keep my Covenant, then maybe what 134 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:03,500 happened to these animals happened to me and ironically, 135 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:06,500 it does happen to him. I mean, Jesus killed. 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Was killed to keep that promise and but but the appearance of 137 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:16,200 God that flaming torch you know is an important image because 138 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,900 when you get to Moses you know the Israelites are enslaved. 139 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:25,100 God raises up Moses and calls him to go deliver the Israelites 140 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:27,700 from Egypt. And remember how God first 141 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:31,800 appears to him and a burning bush, like a flaming Bush but it 142 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,800 isn't burned up. It isn't consumed. 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,200 And then when God leads the Israelites out of Egypt, when he 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,400 leads them through the Wilderness at night, he appears 145 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,000 to them like a pillar of fire. So you have all these images of 146 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,600 fire, burning glowing light and those are carried into the New 147 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,900 Testament, as well. When is worth mentioning at 148 00:07:51,908 --> 00:07:54,100 Mount Sinai, when God gives them the law. 149 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,800 I mean the mountain is shaking smoking and then they're at the 150 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Pinnacle. There's the swirling fire at the 151 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,500 top, that symbolizes God's presence. 152 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:05,600 So fire is associated with his presence, right? 153 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,200 And even in the New Testament, I mean, John describes Jesus in 154 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Revelation having eyes like a flame, a fire. 155 00:08:10,208 --> 00:08:13,500 There's just there's other places in the scriptures to 156 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:18,000 Ezekiel 1 and, and all these different spots, but that's 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,900 important. Because when you get to 158 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:22,300 Pentecost what happens is, you have the sound like a rushing 159 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:27,000 wind and wind breath Spirits, all the same word in Greek. 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,200 I so the spirit comes and the 120 disciples are gathered 161 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,700 together praying, and then you see fire the scent, but then It 162 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:39,500 doesn't just descend says, it's divided. 163 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,100 It's divided. And little little flames of 164 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:44,900 fire, rest on each of them, right? 165 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:47,000 And then there's this thing happening with tongues and 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,100 people hearing what God has done in their own languages because 167 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:52,600 you got all these people gathered together for nation 168 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,300 different nations, right? But that image of fire, what 169 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:59,100 does that symbolize? That symbolizes God's presence. 170 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:04,300 And so so just contrast that to what an Israelite would have 171 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:07,300 been used to. Like if you wanted to worship 172 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:10,000 God, you had to go to where God lift. 173 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,200 That's right. And where did God live? 174 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,400 He lived in Jerusalem, we're in Jerusalem and the temple in the 175 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,400 holy of holies, right? But what happened when Jesus was 176 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,200 crucified is that veil in the temple was torn in two. 177 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,400 And so the most holy place, you know, that was supposed to house 178 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,500 the Ark of the Covenant where God's presence to, well, the 179 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:33,000 Shekinah Glory between the cherubim like that's ripped 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,200 open. So it's symbolizing. 181 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:37,600 Hey there. Barrier anymore, right? 182 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,900 And eventually that Temple is going to be destroyed in 70 AD 183 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:44,900 and Jesus you know clearly says I'm the new Temple, ya got God 184 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:49,300 lives in me, you know, and so there's this transition that's 185 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:52,000 happening. So when you get to Pentecost now 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,900 this visible fiery presence of God. 187 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:59,500 What's significant is? It's not just in one location. 188 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:03,200 What happens? It gets divided among all of 189 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,700 these people And so then they're speaking to all the nations, 190 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:11,800 it's a it's a huge reversal of what has happened in the Old 191 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,700 Testament instead of all the nations having to come to 192 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:19,300 Jerusalem to get to God. Now what happens, God comes and 193 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:23,200 he's being dispersed to all the nations and there's direct 194 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,900 access there's no barrier. I mean it is it is an incredibly 195 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,900 significant event and the New Testament you know, will 196 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:35,800 reiterate this idea over and over that It's not just, we had 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,900 this Temple, where God lived, then Jesus became the temple. 198 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:42,400 Then Jesus ascends, and he sends his spirit. 199 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,600 And what's the new Temple? It's us as Believers like, God 200 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,200 lives inside of me, not just in me individually, but in every 201 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,900 believer, and not, just in every believer individually, but even 202 00:10:55,900 --> 00:10:59,700 in Believers corporately. So Paul picks up on this idea in 203 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:04,000 1st Corinthians 3, and First Corinthians 6, he says, don't 204 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,000 you know that? You plural are the temple of God 205 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,600 is a very interesting language. Mean, he's speaking plural and 206 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:16,800 all these context and he's saying, you corporately are the 207 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,800 temple of God and God, dwells in you, it's plural also. 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,400 So, you know, there's a sense where God inhabits me not just 209 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,300 as an individual, but when I gather with his people, he 210 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:31,600 corporately indwells us as a body. 211 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:35,800 So, all that mean that's very Nificant language. 212 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,100 And those are, those are Big Ideas, right? 213 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:40,400 And if you were living at this time, you were one of these 214 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,300 people that's revolutionary like, oh my gosh, is that me? 215 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,200 Yeah, it's not just there, and it's not just in this person. 216 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,400 But like, in me on me in me and that's that's a different deal. 217 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,000 We need a minute to just let that sit on a lot of 218 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,900 information, but it's also really helpful context. 219 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:03,900 So I'm curious just to go back to the beginning. 220 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:07,700 Jim, so we said this idea of Pentecost means 50. 221 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:10,600 So, what is what do you think? The significance? 222 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,200 Is that 50 days later the spirit comes on Pentecost? 223 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:20,700 Yeah, I don't know. Here's what, here's what I 224 00:12:20,708 --> 00:12:23,100 think. So you've got that, you know, 225 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:25,500 the Feast of Weeks. Was 50 days. 226 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,000 So, I mean, that was, that was set. 227 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,400 It's almost to me, like God hijacks his own feast and adds a 228 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,900 new meaning to it, right? So, if you go back, and you 229 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:38,500 think, okay? 50 days later, the first heads 230 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:41,000 of grain are coming in, right? Okay. 231 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,900 God has got his cared for us. It's bearing fruit. 232 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,500 The Harvest is happening. Well, that, that in itself is 233 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:52,300 worth celebrating, but I think the significance of the spirit 234 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:56,500 coming on Pentecost. It's Almost to me like that is 235 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:59,700 the fruit or the Harvest of Jesus work. 236 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:06,200 So Jesus came lived, a perfect life died in our place so that 237 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,900 when I put my faith in him there's a couple things that 238 00:13:08,900 --> 00:13:13,200 happen right? My sinfulness got imputed to 239 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,500 him. So he was actually judged 240 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:19,900 crucified was separated from his father from God the father 241 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:22,800 because of that sin but that's not the only thing that happens. 242 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,600 His righteousness. Gets imputed to me. 243 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:29,100 So both of those things happen through faith, right? 244 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:33,200 And if you think about this idea that where does God live, where 245 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,100 does God dwell? Well wherever he lives has to be 246 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:39,800 a holy place. It can't like, he doesn't just 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,000 listen, you know, I mean this is the significance of reading the 248 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,300 Old Testament, you know, when he talks an exodus he's like, hey 249 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:49,400 have commands, Moses have my people, build me a sanctuary, a 250 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,100 holy place a tabernacle, so that I can live among them. 251 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,200 And all of these things that have to be crafted and created 252 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,200 or overlaid with gold and their, holy their set apart. 253 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:03,900 No one goes in there. No one goes in the holy of 254 00:14:03,908 --> 00:14:06,500 holies except the high priest, once a year to make atonement 255 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:09,100 for his own sin and for the unintentional sins of the 256 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:13,200 people, it's a very holy place like you just walk in, you don't 257 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,500 want back out right? I mean, you got a story of the 258 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:18,700 guy reaching out to touch the Ark of the Covenant to try to 259 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,500 keep it steady and just Falls over dead. 260 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,900 So wherever God, Dwells like that's a holy space, Sacred 261 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:30,100 Space. I he doesn't live in an unclean 262 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,000 space. So how in the world can God 263 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,400 inhabit? A sinful person. 264 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,900 How can that happen? Well, that only happens through 265 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:44,000 the work of Jesus. And so if Jesus Takes your 266 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 uncleanness, he takes your unrighteousness and he imputes 267 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,900 his righteousness to you through faith. 268 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:53,500 Well then there can be a harvest right there can be a result, 269 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:55,300 there can be a fruit of his labor. 270 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:59,000 I mean that's work. So so now on this Festival of 271 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,100 harvest, you know, where you're celebrating man. 272 00:15:02,300 --> 00:15:04,700 Look at what God has done. He's taking care of us and now 273 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:07,400 there's This bounty. There's this you know, this 274 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,400 heart. Well it's almost like you have 275 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,300 the Harvest of Jesus work coming to fruition by the spirit coming 276 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,400 and living inside of Believers. You know? 277 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:19,800 Now, I don't, if there's not a verse that says that right, but 278 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,300 I just think that, that is a very ironic thing that that 279 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:26,600 happens, that that happens to line up. 280 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,700 It's very, very interesting. And just seems like listen to 281 00:15:29,708 --> 00:15:33,500 you talk the applications for us as Believers to bring it all the 282 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:34,800 way to Greenville South Carolina. 283 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:40,700 China May 2023, right? So, the application for me, as a 284 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:44,400 follower of Jesus, with this idea that now God dwells within 285 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,100 me. Yeah, my sin has been taken by 286 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:50,000 the death of Jesus, so that idea. 287 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,800 And then the idea of what is, what does that mean for us as a 288 00:15:52,808 --> 00:15:55,900 church body and how we interact and how we fellowship and serve 289 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:58,000 and love one another and worship. 290 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 That's right. And so we're speaking together. 291 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,400 So this just feels right with applications for us. 292 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:05,800 And so it's where I'd love for us to get to As a body is to 293 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,800 think about, okay? Pentecost is not just another 294 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,700 day on the calendar that comes and goes every year, right? 295 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,200 It's it feels like a very important moment for us to 296 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,200 pause. Reflect, remember on what does 297 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,300 all this mean, you know? So, when I think about for me, 298 00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:27,200 as a Believer, what based on that context of what happened, 299 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,200 what should I be thinking about? What should I be preparing 300 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 myself for this weekend? We're is I'm preparing for 301 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,500 worship and bring them. My family, we have a reading 302 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:40,800 plan that is going to help. Give us some guidance as we're 303 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,100 leading into Sunday. But for me, personally, in my 304 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:45,600 prayer, life in my walk with God, what should I be thinking 305 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,000 about this week? Yeah, I mean it's worth 306 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,400 celebrating because, you know, just think about what it would 307 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,700 be like to. We don't have any concept of 308 00:16:56,700 --> 00:17:00,600 what it would be like to try to follow God without the Holy 309 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Spirit living inside of us. But I mean that's been the 310 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,300 majority of History, right? I mean, every I mean, if you 311 00:17:08,308 --> 00:17:11,900 just read your Bible Mo, most people in history have had to 312 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:15,400 try to follow God without his Spirit, indwelling them. 313 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:20,000 And so, you know, I mean to give an example, when David prays in 314 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,400 Psalm 51, one of the things he says is God, please don't take 315 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,000 your Holy Spirit from me. He's repenting after he's 316 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:30,200 committed a great sin. Well, that was a very real 317 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,000 possibility that God could have just Drawn from him and he would 318 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,200 have been devoid of the spirit. I mean, that that's a terrible 319 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,900 thought to have right. The fact that God dwells in US 320 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:48,100 permanently is an amazing idea. That, you know, I do, he's 321 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:52,100 always with me, he's always available to comfort me. 322 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:57,600 You know, to point me to truth to reassure me to convict me 323 00:17:58,100 --> 00:18:01,300 when I step out of bounds to produce fruit and me to gift me 324 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,800 to empower me too. Be useful and functional and 325 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,600 powerful, and his kingdom. I mean, it's all those are new 326 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,900 ideas and those are worth celebrating. 327 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:15,200 And before Pentecost, none of that was really true. 328 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,100 I mean, the spirit could come up on someone and Empower someone 329 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:23,800 for a specific task or Inspire, someone to write a letter, that 330 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,200 would be, you know, a prophecy That Be Inspired or something 331 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,000 like that. But that, that's a new idea. 332 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:35,200 And so, I actually, as I was thinking This, I just did a 333 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,500 quick search for Spirit in the New Testament and I put down a 334 00:18:39,508 --> 00:18:41,900 few verses that I thought were significant for us. 335 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:44,100 So I'll just run through these if that's okay. 336 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:48,900 That's great. So, John 6:63 spirit gives life, 337 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,100 you know, the holy spirit is a person. 338 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,500 He's a member of the godhead of the Trinity. 339 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:59,000 He creates life, he regenerates people, he creates life in them. 340 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,400 That, that continues to spring up. 341 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,100 Like Jesus talked about, Out leading to eternal life. 342 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,700 John 14:26, the spirit teaches us, and reminds us of what Jesus 343 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:14,100 taught, John 16:8, the spirit convicts, the world of sin of 344 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:18,100 righteousness, and a coming judgment John. 16:13 the Spirit 345 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:21,900 guides us to the truth Acts 1:8 the spirit empowers us to 346 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:24,400 witness about Jesus, carry out his mission. 347 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:29,300 Romans 8, the spirit removes, our slavery, to the law gives 348 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:33,100 us, life gives us freedom and the ability to 0 Obey. 349 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:38,200 God Romans 15:13, the spirit gives us hope so that we don't 350 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,300 have to live in despair. First Corinthians 2:12. 351 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,800 The spirit allows us to understand the things of God, 352 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:47,100 which is a very interesting verse. 353 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,600 First Corinthians 6:11, the spirit. 354 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,200 Washes us sanctifies us. That means he makes us holy and 355 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,600 he justifies us before God. First Corinthians, 6:17, this 356 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,100 Spirit joins with our spirit, which is a very interesting 357 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:07,300 idea. First Corinthians, 12 and 358 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:09,900 several other places in New Testament, the spirit gives 359 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:13,900 gifts, or supernatural abilities for the common good and for the 360 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,900 edification of the Church, Second Corinthians 5:5 the 361 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:21,600 spirit is the guarantee that we belong to God. 362 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:26,800 Second Corinthians 13:14, the spirit puts us in fellowship 363 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,100 with God, Galatians 5, the spirit produces good things or 364 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:35,400 good fruit in our lives and it stands in opposition to evil 365 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,200 Ephesians. 4:4 the spirit creates Unity among Believers. 366 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,900 Philippians 3, & John, Ford the spirit enables us to truly 367 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:48,500 worship God and second, Timothy 1:7. 368 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:52,800 The spirit grants us power, love and self-control Roll. 369 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,700 And then this is the last one, I'll mention. 370 00:20:55,700 --> 00:21:00,500 But first, John 4:13, the spirit is what assures us that we abide 371 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:03,200 in God and that God lives inside of us. 372 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,400 So, I mean, that's, that's pretty significant list, and 373 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,600 that's not all the references. That's just a handful, and all 374 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,000 that is new at Pentecost. Yeah. 375 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,300 So it's pretty clear that the role of the spirit plays a huge 376 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:20,100 role in our life, and our devotion to God and our devotion 377 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,700 to others. Can you maybe help land the 378 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:26,200 plane and this weekend coming up and just help us, like, how can 379 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,800 we prepare for this weekend? Yeah, sure. 380 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,400 Last, last thought I'll offer is, you know, based out of 1st 381 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Corinthians 3 First, Corinthians 6, where Paul says you you all, 382 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,400 you know, in the South this is where y'all is actually helpful 383 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,800 pronoun, right? The don't, you know, y'all all 384 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,300 of you are the are the, you know, and dwelt by the spirit. 385 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:51,500 You are God's Temple corporately. 386 00:21:51,800 --> 00:22:00,300 So there is this idea that God lives in the corporate body and 387 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:03,700 maybe a different or distinct way than he lives inside the 388 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:06,600 individual. So what implications does that 389 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,700 have for me? Well that means it's very 390 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:11,100 important that I gather together with other believers. 391 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,100 Because if God inhabits a corporate group of people 392 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,400 differently than an individual, well that's why you have versus 393 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,400 like in Hebrews 10 that says, hey be careful. 394 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Don't don't forsake the assembling of yourselves 395 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:31,100 together that God may speak in a certain way he may he may move 396 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:35,800 in a certain way. He may do things among this body 397 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,600 of people that I if I don't gather if I'm not part of that 398 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,600 or if I neglect that If it's not important to me, I'm going to 399 00:22:43,608 --> 00:22:47,200 miss out on something, right? That's that's that's a big deal. 400 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,300 That's an important piece. So I think you know, for us is, 401 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,700 I mean, there's lots of different applications for this 402 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:56,200 but that means, like coming to church on the weekends 403 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,100 important, it means being in biblical Community is important. 404 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,000 Like if I want to hear certain things from God, if I want to 405 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,500 experience certain aspects of who God is and what he's doing, 406 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,600 I've got a, I've got to be a part of all that, right? 407 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,200 I mean even Jesus said, Ed, you know where two or three are 408 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,300 gathered in my name, I am there among you. 409 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:19,300 So you know, I think we've become a little bit dismissive 410 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:23,600 of that in our culture. We think that well I can just 411 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,200 listen to the podcast or I can just watch later or I you know, 412 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,100 I'll just do the Bible study by myself. 413 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:32,800 Would that your shortchanging yourself right? 414 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,600 In the scripture speak against that. 415 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,400 And so, as Believers, you know, if the spirit indwells and us 416 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,100 there ought to be a yearning for us to gather together to 417 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,900 experience, God in a way that I just am not going to experience 418 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:49,200 him and isolation, it's good. There should be an anticipation. 419 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,500 Yeah, yeah. And you have a contribution to 420 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:54,100 bring right? I mean it's it's like you bring 421 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,600 a bunch of little lights together and the room gets a lot 422 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,400 brighter. Yeah. 423 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,200 So I mean that's not just I'm coming to receive but I'm I'm 424 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,600 coming to be a part of something. 425 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,400 I'm coming to join this corporate activity where God is 426 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:11,400 somehow more present. I don't know if more present but 427 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:14,300 it's Going to do, maybe something unique or different 428 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:17,000 than I can experience, if I'm not a part of that Gathering and 429 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,400 that's worth celebrating. I mean, all those realities and 430 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,300 truths of the scripture of what the spirit does, in me for me, 431 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,600 through me, you know, and that's worth rejoicing over and just 432 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,700 being like, this is a big deal. Yeah, it's a big deal. 433 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:37,800 It helps me thinking about this weekend because I think some 434 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,500 direction around. How should I be walking in on 435 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,900 Sunday morning? I should have Spiritus A 436 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:45,400 celebratory Spirit. That's ready to Rejoice 437 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,800 acknowledging, who the spirit is, and what he's done, being 438 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,500 reflective upon that. But really, we celebrate. 439 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:55,500 This is we get to party because of what the spirit done and what 440 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:58,400 he's given us and get do this for one another, what a powerful 441 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,000 thing that God has given us. Amen. 442 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,700 Let's not take it lightly. I agree for sure. 443 00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,000 Well thank you guys very much for sharing. 444 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,300 Thank you for all these passages to reflect on this has been 445 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,500 great. Thanks Chris. 446 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:13,600 Well, as we wrap up today's conversation, we want to thank 447 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,000 you for joining us. 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