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OK, all right. 
Morning, Lou. 

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Good morning. 
How are you? 

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I am awesome, I'm awesome. 
You may help you with that 

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intro. 
Well, what I would like you to 

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do is go ahead and say your name
and just a little. 

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Well, first of all, I guess you 
can talk about smash meals or 

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you can talk about church, but 
just go ahead and give a little 

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intro. 
OK, cool. 

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So my name is Louis Kaiser. 
If you didn't know that most 

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people call me Lou. 
My dad's Louis. 

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I'm Lou. 
My son we call LB. 

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He's the third. 
OK, so let's see. 

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I've been a United Methodist 
pastor since I was 18 years old 

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and I love being a pastor and 
few years ago, eight years ago 

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and back to my current current. 
I don't know if that's the right

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word, but my wife at the time 
and I started Smash Mills and 

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now I own it by myself. 
We're not we're not nonprofit. 

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We're a gluten free meal prep 
company. 

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Also do catering currently serve
2 churches in our area in Bluff 

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City and right outside of 
Bristol. 

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And two kids and they're 
amazing. 

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They turned 16 on Friday. 
No, Thursday. 

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Yeah. 
So they're. 

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Yeah. 
Boy and girl, LB and Daisy. 

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They turned 16 tomorrow. 
Oh my gosh, yeah. 

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Well, and this morning was a 
little sad for you. 

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Yeah, it was sad 'cause you 
know, you, you take them to 

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they're born, right? 
I drove them home from the 

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hospital and it was February. 
They were born February 26th. 

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They were five weeks early. 
Kind of funny story. 

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I'll get to the 16 a second. 
So we, we go in on the 25th 

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because she wasn't feeling well 
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appointment and she had to take 
this urine test. 

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And then they call us back and 
they're like, hey, you know, 

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there's some something going on 
and if you feel kind of weird, 

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call us back. 
So it's like 9:00 at night and 

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she's like, look, I'm feeling 
weird. 

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So I called the doctor and the 
doctor was like, well, just come

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on out of the hospital. 
We lived in malls night at the 

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time. 
So we drove to Johnson City to 

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the specialty hospital. 
And before we left, she was 

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like, hey, are we going to take 
the dog? 

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Because the dog went everywhere 
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Could we have kids? 
And I was like, no, no, no, 

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let's leave the dog just in 
case. 

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So we get to the specialty 
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Like, hey, you're going to spend
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So, you know, as a dude, I just 
went to sleep right on the couch

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and I don't have anything to do.
And they checked her all night 

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long. 
The next morning they wake up 

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and it's her birthday, February 
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And they were like, Hey, 
congratulations, you know, happy

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birthday. 
Got good news and bad news. 

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Which one you want first? 
And she's like, well, that's the

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bad news. 
You can't stay at this hospital.

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You got to go to the Med center.
What's what's the good news? 

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And like, well, we're going to 
need to take your babies today 

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on your birthday. 
So February 26th, 2010, they 

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were born. 
But so they were like, do you 

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want to do you want an 
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And I was like, no, we don't 
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specialty hospital to the 
Medical Center. 

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It's just right on the road. 
They're like, OK, Are you sure? 

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And I'm like, yeah, So her and I
aren't thinking it's a big deal 

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at all. 
Yeah, we're just like moving to 

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another hospital. 
So we go out and get in the car,

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we drive and I'm like kind of 
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So I go to go to Hardee's and 
they had like the two for 222 

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bacon, egg and cheese biscuits. 
So we pull through the drive 

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through, we get to the hospital 
and we just wait in the parking 

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lot. 
We call our parents. 

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Hey, today's going to be the day
we're going to have the babies. 

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And I finished both my biscuits.
We take our time, we walk down 

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to the hospital. 
I didn't even drop her off the 

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door. 
Like, you know, walk down to the

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hospital, there's a whole team 
of surgical people waiting on us

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and they're like, where you 
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I'm like, I went to get biscuits
and they were like, she's having

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the babies right now. 
And we went from the door to the

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surgical room. 
Wow. 

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Like, yeah. 
And on the way, they put gowns 

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on me and they put gowns on her 
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And we had the babies within 
like 15 minutes of us getting to

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the hospital. 
Well, did they end up telling 

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you why it was so? 
Preeclampsia. 

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But nobody told us that, you 
know, and so we didn't think 

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anything of it. 
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But so we, we were in the 
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They were five weeks premature. 
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it's snowing. 
So I got a 45 minute drive to 

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from John City to Mawson and 
like I'm doing like 20 miles an 

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hour, right? 
And it's snowing and like 

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there's cars and I'm slamming on
the brakes, like nervous is all 

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get out. 
So, you know, and I'm in this 

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morning when I woke up, that was
my vision of me taking them home

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from the hospital. 
And today I got up and drove 

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them to their to the high 
school, you know, and 

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technically it's the last time 
I'm going to drive them to 

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school. 
Yeah, because tomorrow morning 

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they're skipping the first 
period so they can go get their 

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driver's license. 
And you know, for, for me as a 

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dad, like I remember driving 
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I remember driving them to 
preschool for the first time, 

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kindergarten for the first time,
you know, all the way just 

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driving them everywhere. 
And now, you know, they, my son 

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has a 72 Ford F-100. 
That's why he wanted an old 

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truck. 
So he found him. 

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One of my girls got like a 2013 
Ford Escape and like like 

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technically tomorrow they don't 
need me to drive them anywhere. 

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And so on the way to school 
today, I was I was crying a 

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little bit and I said to Daisy, 
and I'll be I said before you 

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get out, just just to warn you 
when you get out the car today, 

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I'm giving you all the hugs and 
kisses like like it's a big 

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deal. 
But you know, I love my 

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children. 
They're, they're incredible. 

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My day, my little girl, she's 
always, she'd been in gymnastics

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and then she at six years old, 
she won the state championship 

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for her little gymnastics and 
she was competing against like 

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15 to 16 year olds. 
And my son's been a swimmer. 

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Now they play golf together and 
they're, they're, they're so 

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unique. 
You know, you have twins. 

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You never know how you, you, you
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right? 
I mean, potty trained at the 

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same time, learn to talk at the 
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You know, they went from cribs 
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Everything's at the same time, 
but then you, you get to this 

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moment and you're like, how are 
they going to be different? 

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You know, I remember early on 
somebody said because you 

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couldn't really tell apart early
on when they had clothes on. 

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And somebody said, how do you 
tell apart when they're when 

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they don't have clothes on? 
I was like, oh God, boy, girl, 

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you know, but you know, as 
they've grown up, like it was 

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amazing because we didn't do 
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And to see them progress and 
have their own personalities. 

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It's been really, I think been 
amazing for for me as a dad. 

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Yeah. 
Like to see that and to see them

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come with who they are. 
Last night, LB went up to a girl

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on a date. 
Of course I had to drive them, 

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you know. 
So, yeah, the dad met us at the 

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Drake's parking lot. 
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And of course I jumped fast and,
and he jumps out of the car 

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'cause I'm on. 
I'm like, oh, cool, the dad's 

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here. 
I'm gonna meet him, meet the 

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girl. 
I never met the girl for her. 

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And I shake his hand and, and 
I'm like, hey, I'm Lou Kosher. 

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Of course my son was on the 
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He's coming around and he had a 
rose for the little girl and, 

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and he was exciting. 
So they kind of like met him and

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the dad and I met and then I met
the daughter and and I was like,

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I've never met your daughter 
before. 

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He's like, I've never met your 
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And so about an they, they went 
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I went and did something else. 
And then I picked him back up 

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after a couple hours and drove 
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And I go, hey, I was like, I 
think it was really cool to meet

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your dad. 
And he's like, yeah, he was 

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going to come. 
So he could be all tough and 

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bad. 
And I laughed because here I 

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jumped out of the car and like, 
kind of like I didn't realize I 

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was diffusing anything or 
calming him down. 

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And then we found out it was her
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Oh, wow. 
And so my son, I was so proud of

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him because he, you know, he got
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first date. 
And then they went to Blackbird 

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Bakery and they had coffee and 
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time. 
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of the road, you know, and I, I 
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because I won't probably never 
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You know, I remember taking 
Daisy on her first dates and you

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know, and as a dad, right, for 
me anyway, you know, I know your

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mom, but like to to remember 
some of these moments because 

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over the last 16 years of their 
life, there's so many moments I 

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forgot, you know, and I'm lucky 
enough as a pastor, you know, 

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they go with. 
Me. 

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You're making me. 
Cry sorry, you know, as a 

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pastor, they go with me 
everywhere, you know, and and I 

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think it's cool thing about 
being an entrepreneur and being 

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a pastors, you know, you don't 
have an 8 to 5 and a 

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manufacturing job where they 
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You don't, you know, I'm not a 
truck driver. 

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So you know, my buddy grew up 
his dad was a truck driver. 

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So then sometimes he would drive
with him, but throughout the 

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year he didn't get seen much. 
But, you know, to be a pastor 

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and to be an entrepreneur and 
own my own business, you know, 

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they're with me a lot. 
And I and I love that about 

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that. 
You know, they've, they've 

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gotten to see the great things 
about church. 

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They've gotten to see some hard 
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They've got to see some great 
things about growing a business.

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But at the same time, they've 
seen some hard things about 

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growing a business. 
And you know, between being a 

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pastor where you work 24 hours a
day, seven days a week, because 

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you're always on call and on 
your own business, where you 

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think about your business 24 
hours a day, seven days a week. 

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And you put those together, 
they're like, you know, they, 

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they see it all. 
And you know, they've been 

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working for, for Smash Mills 
since the day we started it. 

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I mean, they end, it's amazing. 
Now people ask, you know, you 

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know, yesterday I took LB also 
to his first flying lesson. 

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And the instructor said, well, 
do you have any chefs? 

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Do you have? 
And I was like, wait, he's one 

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of my main ones. 
I mean, he does such an amazing 

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job cooking meat and, and I know
I've taught him, but he's better

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than me at that. 
And then Daisy is so good at 

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making all the desserts and 
running the kitchen and, and 

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telling people what to do. 
And so like when we're all three

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there together, it works so well
because they're almost an 

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extension of my hands, but but 
better, right? 

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Because as an entrepreneur, you 
have to learn as you go, but 

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then you teach the people that 
are important to you or the 

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people that are close to you, 
the things that you learned 

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after you went through all the 
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And then so they can do it 
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think that like as a dad, like 
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love to see, see them be better 
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You know, I, I didn't always 
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I wish I would have, you know, 
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because they've been there and 
done that. 

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They're trying to like keep you 
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that. 
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I've taught them really is, is 
really cool. 

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Like yesterday we finished his 
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It was an advent and we had to 
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with him 'cause he, he's also 
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we're going. 
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get her a flower. 
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where, where do we do that? 
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waggles there. 
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the waggles and he's like, 
there's not flowers at the gas 

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station. 
I'm like, there's always flowers

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at Waggles and he's like is. 
That how you pronounce it, 

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waggles. 
That's how I pronounce. 

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It OK? 
I thought it was Wiggles. 

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You know, but. 
I'm not. 

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I mean, I don't waggles. 
OK, we're. 

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Just going to go with it, OK? 
Yeah. 

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Let's roll with it. 
And if you're on the company and

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you're watching this podcast, 
you just let us know. 

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But I've said waggles my whole 
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I say it wrong, but we're going 
to go with it, OK? 

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I mean, that's how it's all 
good. 

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Yeah, all good. 
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But he's like, how do you know 
that, Dad? 

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I'm like, I've been in enough of
them. 

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I know they always have flowers.
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like, thanks so much, Dad for 
knowing that. 

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a cool moment. 
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of it, but I I was excited that 
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me for knowing that there was a 
flowers that wax. 

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Yeah, that's hilarious. 
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But so we go back to Smash Mills
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I mean, we've been around for 
for eight years and it started 

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in our home, which is kind of 
crazy. 

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So Ashley is my ex-wife, the 
kids mom's name. 

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And I was the hospital one night
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dying and I was with his family 
and and we knew it was intimate.

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So I or intimate, not intimate. 
Well, they're both either way. 

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Yeah, I know what you mean. 
So we're there and it's probably

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like a 5 hour thing. 
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few times. 
How the kids, what's going on? 

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And she sends me this text 
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She's like, so I think I just 
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was like, oh, cool, that's 
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businesses. 
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when we were married, so like 
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something, I was fully on board.
Like, you know, I think 1 as a 

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dad, as a husband, as a friend, 
like I'm going to support you 

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wholeheartedly. 
You have an idea. 

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I'm going to go with it all in. 
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like, So what would you start? 
And she said, well, some friends

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of mine wanted me to go grocery 
shopping for them. 

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She was a personal trainer. 
And she's like, why don't I just

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cook food for you? 
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What, what are you going to 
cook? 

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And she's like, well, I'm going 
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blah. 
I was like, where are we going 

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to cook it? 
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kitchen. 
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little stove with those little 
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a great stove. 
We had a tiny refrigerator. 

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I was like, where are you going 
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those details where we're going 
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I was like, how are you going to
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I don't know. 
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those details and I was like, I 
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put it in? 
I don't know. 

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So we worked out those details. 
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from scratch, you have to like 
think about all those little 

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details. 
And I think I sometimes when you

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start business by yourself, you 
spend your mind just running and

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running and running, but when 
you have somebody to bounce 

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ideas off of. 
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it grew up really, really quick.
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need to get like a sales tax, we
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So I started reaching out to the
state, what do we need? 

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So the state tells me everything
we need. 

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So I send them money, they send 
me the stuff, they all the stuff

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that we need, right? 
And about 11 months later, just 

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got this phone call and it's 
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They're like, hey, we've been 
hearing you running food prep 

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business. 
Absolutely. 

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We got all the paperwork you 
need. 

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Do you need copies of it or 
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They're like, no, you've never 
applied through the health 

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department. 
I was like, didn't know you 

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needed to. 
We, we contacted the state. 

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We asked them what all you need 
to do. 

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They told us I was like, I've 
been paying sales tax now for 11

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months. 
Y'all collected thousands of 

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dollars and now you think it's a
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And they were like, well, 
somebody's complained about you.

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And I was like, oh, so they're 
like another business, you know,

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complained about us taking their
business. 

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I'm not really sure what 
happened. 

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So I was like, well, what does 
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They're like, well, you cannot 
keep being a business until you 

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have the health inspection. 
I was like, well, when you 

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coming, coming tomorrow? 
And he's like, no, I'm going to 

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come next week. 
And he's like, you keep running 

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your business this week. 
I'll be there next week and then

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we can make a plan. 
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and I'd done a lot of due 
diligence over the 11 months to 

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figure out what all you needed. 
We had stainless steel 

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everything. 
We had sinks, we had all the 

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stuff. 
And he comes in and you know, we

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didn't have, we didn't have a no
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house. 
Got to have a no smoking sign. 

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We didn't have hinges on our 
doors in our bathrooms. 

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You got to have hinges on doors 
and bathrooms. 

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And we didn't have a, we had a 
two base sink instead of a three

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base sink and we didn't have a, 
a separate hand washing sink. 

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And he's like, everything else 
is perfect. 

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That's all you need and you got 
30 days to get it done. 

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And you can keep running your 
business during these 30 days. 

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So that that went out and a 
buddy of mine, his, his brother 

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worked for Chick-fil-A and they 
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in Morristown and they had an 
extra hand washing sink and a 

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three base sink that they were 
fixing to throw away. 

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Drove down there, put it in my 
trailer, drove it back, drilled 

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holes in my floor, installed a 
three base sink, installed a 

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hand washing sink and got hinges
off of Amazon and a no smoking 

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sign to put outside. 
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the first try and we ran that 
until 2020 there and we moved it

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to meta view where we are 
currently. 

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We have a full commercial 
kitchen at Meadowview Convention

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Center. 
It's actually in the back 

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parking lot. 
And, you know, we've seen a lot 

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of ups and downs, you know, 
through that. 

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And obviously we went through a 
divorce, which was extremely 

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hard. 
You know, any time that you 

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start something, you always want
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For sure. 
And you know, so to go through a

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have a business partner that 
your your wife that you're going

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to get divorced, then we stay 
business partners for a while. 

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Then, you know, she wanted to 
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And so I she was like, I want to
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like, I don't want to do that. 
And that, you know, that was a 

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tough decision. 
I was scary. 

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You know, you start something 
with somebody and you become 

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reliant on them, right? 
You have your role, they have 

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their role and you kind of you 
work together. 

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And, you know, she was the face 
of Smash Mills. 

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She's a personal trainer and, 
you know, she knew everybody. 

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I just kind of stayed back and 
kind of did my own thing. 

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You know, I made sure we cooked,
I made sure we had all the 

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supplies. 
When I made sure we had all the 

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groceries, I made sure to order 
pallets of containers and bags 

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and everything we needed. 
But to see her walk away was 

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like was really, really scary. 
And I didn't think I would 

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succeed. 
Honestly, I thought I would. 

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I was going to give it a shot, 
but in my mind I thought I would

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fail. 
Not because she wasn't there, 

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but because I couldn't do it 
all. 

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What year was that? 
That was two years ago, so 2023.

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Maybe it's more than longer than
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I think she stepped out December
of 2023. 

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So I started January 1st of 
2024. 

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But it was scary, you know, I 
mean, I knew how to run the 

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kitchen. 
I knew all the recipes because I

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knew how to do everything. 
But to become fully reliant on 

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yourself. 
I remember the the first day it 

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was just me because a lot of our
employees left when she left, 

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you know, because they thought 
we were shutting it down and we 

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didn't. 
And there was just, there was 

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just four of us in the kitchen. 
And you know, normally there's 

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nine or ten of us. 
And like my mom was just 

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spinning out of control. 
It was it was it was hard. 

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But you know, I'm sitting here 
two years later we did. 

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I was almost actually today out 
this morning. 

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I looked and year over to year 
from February or March 1st of 

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2024 through February of 28th of
2025 now and then February 28th 

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to March 1st of whatever this 
year is, we're up, we were up 

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50% so last year. 
So we were, you know, so to be 

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up 50% when you thought that 
you, you weren't, I wasn't sure 

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if I would survive to being up 
50% in sales, you know, is a big

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deal. 
Yeah, congratulations. 

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Oh, thank you. 
Thank you. 

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Yeah, it's been, it's been 
interesting to see it, you know,

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because I do, I do a lot, you 
know, between being a pastor 

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full time, being a dad full 
time, being a business center 

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full time, like there's a lot to
juggle in all that. 

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The lady that I'm dating, we've 
been dating for a while now. 

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Her name's Kelly. 
She said to the this morning. 

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She said, she said, you know, I 
hear you say so often on Sundays

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about trusting God and then I 
hear you at the same time talk 

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about your business and not have
trust that God's going to be 

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with you and you feel like 
you're going to be a failure. 

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And she's like, which one is it?
Luke? 

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Do you, do you, do you trust God
or do you not? 

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And, and that we literally she 
said that to me about 45 minutes

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ago and having, you know, 
business and ministry come 

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together. 
And trying to do it all, and 

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yeah, it's not the easiest thing
in the world. 

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No, well, sometimes we can speak
the words right. 

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And then just like that, we're 
like, Dang it, yeah. 

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Then it's like, oh, hey, listen.
God was like, Hey Lou A. 100%. 

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Practice would you preach, which
is not easy. 

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I mean, we're totally all guilty
of that, but that's why we have 

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grace, which is, you know, an 
unbelievable thing. 

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A. 100% But, yeah, when you said
that, it reminded me like, you 

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know, I know I've already talked
about this with taking them kids

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home on the first day and I was 
driving and. 

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Yeah. 
And I was like, everybody just 

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move out the way. 
Yeah. 

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You know, I, I wish I was like 
Superman at that moment, you 

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know, like I'm gonna have like a
force field around me and cars 

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just stop. 
Yeah, or. 

444
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,720
Andre the Giant and Princess 
Bride, and he's like everybody 

445
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,800
boom, everybody just like 
hearts. 

446
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,000
Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool. 
Have Andre the Giant walking 

447
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,440
around with. 
You that would be kind of good, 

448
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,360
but. 
Are you right, PR? 

449
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,000
Yeah. 
You know, Grace goes a long way 

450
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,360
though, doesn't it? 
Yeah. 

451
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,240
How long have you been a pastor 
now? 

452
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,560
80? 
That's right, since you were 18.

453
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,800
So let's see, I'm 44 this year, 
so I started, well, I'm terrible

454
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,000
at math when I'm doing it like 
in my mind like that. 

455
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,120
But it's OK. 
I know I'm really good at cross 

456
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,920
multiplication in case anybody 
wants to know. 

457
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,000
Like that's my jam. 
I can figure out anything as 

458
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,480
long as I can cross multiply 
but. 4 * 4 go. 16. 

459
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,600
What did you times 8? 
No, I got nothing about it. 

460
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,320
I'd have to like think about it,
but you know, you think about 

461
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,800
like I, I started in, I was 18 
and it was the IT was the year 

462
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,680
2000 kind of crazy thing about 
and the very first time. 

463
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,440
I love the story. 
So a buddy I was, I was he, we 

464
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,160
had just we had driven around 
the country before we drove 

465
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,680
around the country. 
I had this phone call and this 

466
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,440
guy goes, hey, my, my name. 
I can't remember the guy's name,

467
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,400
but he's like, Hey, we know 
you're going into ministry 

468
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520
because 16 I accept the call to 
ministry. 

469
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,120
And so like that was my path. 
And he's like, we want you to be

470
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:25,680
the pastor of these two 
churches. 

471
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,800
And I was like. 
How did he get in touch with? 

472
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920
You well, so the way the 
Methodist system works is like 

473
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,520
when you want to become a 
minister or going to ministry, 

474
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,120
you go in front of your church 
and your church kind of like 

475
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,880
votes on you to say, OK, we, we 
will stand behind you. 

476
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,120
Then you write letters and you 
fill out paperwork and you send 

477
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:46,960
that to what they call the 
district, which is over a bunch 

478
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,600
of churches. 
And there's a district committee

479
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,560
that interviews you and talks to
you about like the next steps. 

480
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,720
And so like, it's a huge 
process. 

481
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080
And the Methodist Church, it 
takes a long time to be 

482
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,840
ordained. 
So you can serve churches before

483
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,160
you're ordained, but it took me 
until, I mean, eight years, nine

484
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,880
years to be ordained. 
Wow. 

485
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000
So it's a, it's a long process. 
So they, I was in the system and

486
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,400
I was going to school at Lambeth
University in Jackson, TN. 

487
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,720
And, and he calls me and he's 
like, hey, so we want you to be 

488
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,600
this pastor. 
And I'll never forget. 

489
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,600
I was like, so, So what, what do
I do? 

490
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,240
Like, hey, come on, What does a 
pastor do? 

491
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,960
And he's like, what you're going
to preach and you're going to do

492
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,520
some baptisms, you'll do 
weddings, you'll do funerals, 

493
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,400
and you're going to be in charge
of these two churches. 

494
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,960
And I said, I still remember 
this because, you know, back 

495
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,120
then we had the phone on the 
wall. 

496
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,960
So I was like, I was like, I'm 
going to have to call you back. 

497
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,760
And he's like, OK, I was like, I
need to go ask my parents 

498
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,680
permission because at 18, you 
know, like, what do you what do 

499
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,600
you really say? 
I mean, I didn't know. 

500
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,240
I was like, I need to ask my 
parents permission. 

501
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760
So I like went to the room and I
was like, this guy calls me and 

502
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,400
he wants me to pastor of these 
two churches. 

503
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,120
And they're like, OK, that's 
what you want to do. 

504
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,240
So I call him back. 
And I was like, sweet, when, 

505
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,280
when do I start? 
And he's like, well, you're 

506
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,680
going to start the middle of 
June. 

507
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,160
And I was like, yeah, that's not
going to work. 

508
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,760
He's like, what do you mean? 
I'm like a buddy and I've been 

509
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,920
planning this trip and we're 
leaving June 10th and, or June 

510
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,480
11th and we're driving around 
the country for six weeks. 

511
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,320
So I can't start until I get 
back. 

512
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,920
And he was like, OK, when you 
get back, you can start. 

513
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,320
Wow. 
So, so a buddy and I, we, we got

514
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:22,080
in a, an old 1995 Chevy truck 
and we had, we put a red camper 

515
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,920
on top of it. 
We had our two kayaks on top, 

516
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,560
bicycles on the back. 
We had camping gear, we had 

517
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,000
cooking gear, We, we had extra 
gallons of gas, we had clothing.

518
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,920
We just drove the first day we 
drove all the way to Colorado 

519
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,920
and we stayed outside of 
Colorado with this rest stop. 

520
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,000
And now from Memph or from 
Malatassee to Colorado is a long

521
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,920
way. 
And you know, at one point I 

522
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,880
remember seeing the sign that 
says 599 miles to Colorado. 

523
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,040
And here we are, 218 year old 
kids like trying to figure the 

524
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,320
world out. 
And we get to Colorado and we're

525
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,000
staying at this rest stop. 
And the next one we get up, 

526
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,240
we're cooking breakfast and and 
we went into the gas station or 

527
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:04,080
the bathroom to brush our teeth.
And this guy pulls up and it's 

528
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,960
in a old VW van and he's like, 
hey, boys need any weed? 

529
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,680
And, and I'll never forget I got
sitting next to Matt and I 

530
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,360
looked over and there was this 
old van that was like, they were

531
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,160
sleeping next to us. 
Like we don't, but they may. 

532
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,760
And so he just drops off. 
And then these people that were 

533
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,600
staying in this van, they come 
out of the bathroom and they're 

534
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,240
sitting there and they're, we're
cooking and they're like, hey, 

535
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,720
what are you doing boys doing? 
They're like, oh, we're just on 

536
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,760
a trip for the next six weeks. 
We don't know what we're doing. 

537
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,720
And I was like, what are y'all 
doing? 

538
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,200
They're like, oh, we're on the 
way to Vegas to start at church.

539
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,040
And I remember like, Oh my God, 
I just clearly judge these 

540
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,120
people based on their 
appearance, you know, and their 

541
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:46,240
van and, and, and they're going 
to Vegas to start a church. 

542
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,120
I'm hoping I would love I I I'm 
sure they're successful, but I 

543
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,560
don't have a clue do. 
You remember what they looked 

544
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,320
like. 
No. 

545
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,640
OK, you didn't try and. 
Fight. 

546
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560
They were just, no, they were 
just two hippies. 

547
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,400
They're, you know, married 
couples out starting a church. 

548
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,040
But every day him and I would 
flip 1/4 to see which direction 

549
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,200
we were going to go. 
Like we had no plans. 

550
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,840
If we saw a hitchhiker, we 
picked him up. 

551
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,560
We drove 1 hitchhiker 350 miles 
to Green Valley, a Green 

552
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,560
Mountain State Park or 
something. 

553
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,680
To me it was beautiful. 
But we so we traveled all over 

554
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,840
the country, Canada, Mexico, 
ended up coming back sometime in

555
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,920
late July. 
And then the first or second 

556
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240
Sunday of August was my first 
Sunday. 

557
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,400
And then the next week is my 
birthday. 

558
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,200
But I was 18 and on 1st Sunday 
and I get to the first church 

559
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,160
and there was like, besides me 
and my family, OK, if you take 

560
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,320
us out of the equation, there 
was 15 people there. 

561
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,400
Wow. 
And if you include me and those 

562
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,360
15 people, take my family out, 
the average age was 77 and I was

563
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:54,440
18. 
And before church starts, the 

564
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040
pianist says to me, hey, just 
want you to know this is my last

565
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,920
Sunday. 
I was like, Oh well, who's going

566
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,640
to play next Sunday? 
And she's like, I don't know, 

567
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,640
that's your job to figure it 
out. 

568
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Oh man. 
OK, so I get going. 

569
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,960
Of course. 
You know, I've been in church my

570
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,200
whole life. 
And we get to that point where 

571
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,480
we're going to say the pastor's 
prayer. 

572
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,040
So I say a prayer, I say Amen, 
We're done. 

573
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,040
And everybody just looks at me. 
Oh, yeah, the Lord's Prayer. 

574
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,400
I forgot. 
You're supposed to do the Lord's

575
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:21,960
Prayer. 
Oh, OK. 

576
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,480
So, well, in our church, in the 
method church, we do the Lord's 

577
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,240
Prayer. 
So. 

578
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,120
So we do the Lord's Prayer. 
It's time for my sermon. 

579
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,040
So I have a sermon written out, 
my very first sermon. 

580
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,880
So I get done preaching my 
sermon and I said, and that's 

581
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,280
all I know about Jesus. 
Let's pray. 

582
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Those exact words. 
That's all I know about Jesus. 

583
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,120
Let's pray. 
And I fix to be these people's 

584
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,480
pastor. 
Yeah, guess you don't know how 

585
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
long that sermon was. 
Hold on, let me guess. 

586
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,640
OK, 18 minutes. 
Nope. 

587
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Shorter or longer? 
Shorter. 5 minutes shorter. 2 

588
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,440
minutes and 47 seconds. 
Did you time yourself? 

589
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,920
No, somebody else did. 
All right, so. 

590
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Do you still have that sermon 
written down somewhere? 

591
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,280
No, no, no. 
But I mean, I love that sermon 

592
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240
actually, because I I when we 
got ready to go on our trip, I 

593
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320
bought a brand new pair of 
Vasque hiking boots. 

594
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,520
The very first day we're going 
to go on a hike out in Colorado.

595
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,440
I never wore them. 
I took the tags off, put them 

596
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,760
on, and we're fixing to start a 
six week journey of like hiking 

597
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,400
and kayaking. 
Yeah, that's not how you do it. 

598
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,760
I got. 
Blisters everywhere. 

599
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Yeah. 
So the title of my sermon was 

600
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,680
it's it was title of my sermon 
was never go hiking with new 

601
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,200
hiking boots. 
And, and, and, and it was, you 

602
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360
know, for me it was important 
because like here we are, I'm 

603
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,920
starting something new and I'm 
going to get a lot of blisters 

604
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,520
because I don't, I didn't know 
what I was doing. 

605
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,800
I had no clue, so I'll leave 
that that I had two churches so 

606
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,120
that one was from not supposed 
to be from 9:00 to. 10 is that? 

607
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,360
Is that a usual thing to have? 
Yeah. 

608
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,240
OK, so Methodist pastors are, 
you know, their circuit riders 

609
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,680
basically. 
So early on, the Methodist 

610
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,560
churches were everywhere. 
There was more Methodist 

611
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,560
churches than there were post 
office early on in the, you 

612
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,840
know, when Methodism first 
started spreading throughout the

613
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,400
area. 
In fact, many post offices early

614
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,160
on were inside Methodist 
churches. 

615
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,320
It's kind of an interesting 
thing. 

616
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,120
But most of them were small 
because they would just put, put

617
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,400
them in the little communities 
everywhere. 

618
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440
So it's still a, you know, 
tradition to have multiple 

619
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,760
churches. 
Now, some people with their big 

620
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,600
churches, they just have one. 
But I leave that church and I go

621
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
to my next church and I get 
there and there's more people 

622
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,080
there. 
It's probably like 18. 

623
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160
But growing up, I'd always 
worked, started working when I 

624
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,200
was, you know, 12 years old, 
like probably 10 years old. 

625
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,720
I, my, in the summer time, I'd 
go help people carry shingles up

626
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,960
on roofs 'cause I just love to 
work. 

627
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,200
And then when I was 12, I 
started working at Greenway 

628
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,560
Nursery. 
And then when I was 16, I 

629
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,080
started working at Sears selling
appliance, delivering appliance,

630
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,240
stuff like that. 
But my boss's name was Gary and 

631
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520
Gary was a black man and I never
thought anything of it. 

632
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,240
My family, we were always around
black people. 

633
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Like, no racism anywhere in my 
family. 

634
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Like in my grandfather, every 
Tuesday when I was growing up, 

635
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,680
one of his best buddies, Jude, 
who was a black man, would drive

636
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,840
him to my dad's office and they 
would pick me up from school and

637
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,280
we'd go and have lunch together.
And, you know, so it never 

638
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,720
thought anything of it. 
Like, we grew up, my town was 

639
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,440
half black, half white, Never 
thought anything of it. 

640
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,800
OK, so I get to this church and 
on the very first Sunday, I'm 18

641
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,160
years old. 
I just preached my first sermon,

642
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,480
2 minutes, 47 seconds. 
And I invited my Gary. 

643
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,000
He's my boss, like from Sears. 
I love this man Gary Lou Jenkins

644
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,960
is the name. 
And and he walks in and he's 

645
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,320
going to sit with my family and 
I'm introducing myself and this 

646
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,080
couple. 
This lady looks at me, this man 

647
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,360
looks at me and she says those 
people aren't welcome here. 

648
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360
And I said, I'm so sorry. 
My family's here. 

649
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240
That's my family. 
And he's like, your family can 

650
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,320
stay. 
But that black man, he, he's not

651
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,880
welcome here. 
And I, I had no idea what to 

652
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,000
say. 
And so these are the words come 

653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
out now. 
If you would like to leave, 

654
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,560
you're more than welcome. 
But he's with me. 

655
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,160
It was like a defining moment in
my ministry. 

656
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,240
The first Sunday here, somebody 
who is so important to me was 

657
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,360
they wanted to exclude and they 
never came back. 

658
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240
They got up and left. 
They never came back to church. 

659
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,080
I couldn't tell you their names 
if I wanted to, but that was a 

660
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,480
it was a hard moment for me to 
see that not everybody in church

661
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
is there with intentions. 
Now, of course, you know, Jesus 

662
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520
said I didn't come for the for 
the well. 

663
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920
I came for the sick, you know, 
And so it was also a reminder 

664
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,760
that we often times we look at 
people who make mistakes in 

665
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,280
churches, who fail, who get 
divorces, who go to prison, who 

666
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,320
do stupid things, who say stupid
things. 

667
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Oh, they're in church. 
They should be better than that.

668
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,960
No, they're in church. 
They're they're there to, to get

669
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,240
better. 
They're not there because 

670
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,000
they're better. 
Yeah. 

671
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,440
You know. 
We're all already sick, that's 

672
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840
why we're there. 100% and 
that's, you know, we go back to 

673
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,080
your, what you said earlier with
the grace. 

674
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,840
And I think that's, you know, 
but it did teach me a very 

675
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,680
quickly that being a pastor 
isn't just about preaching and 

676
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680
it's not just about doing 
funerals. 

677
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,640
It's about trying to your best 
to help people who are sick just

678
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,480
like you are. 
And you know, I was, I was the 

679
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,360
pastor there for three years, my
sophomore, junior and senior 

680
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
years. 
And then then I moved across the

681
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,840
state when I graduated from 
college. 

682
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920
And that's how I ended up in 
East Tennessee. 

683
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Became a pastor of two small 
churches in in East Tennessee. 

684
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Sunbright, which is a town of 
600. 

685
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Have you ever heard of 
Sunbright? 

686
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,120
No. 
Where is it? 

687
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,840
It's north of Oak Ridge, TN, 
north of Wartburg and the. 

688
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Oak Ridge is over by Knoxville, 
right? 

689
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Yeah, yeah. 
So you got like, you go 

690
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Knoxville, then you go Oak 
Ridge, then you go Wartburg and 

691
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000
then Sunbright. 
That's the little town I lived 

692
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,720
in and I was a pastor there, but
I had two churches. 

693
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,040
So Sunbright and then Rugby 
Road, now Rugby. 

694
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960
If you've never been to Rugby, 
y'all need to take a field trip 

695
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,360
there. 
It's an old English settlement. 

696
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,840
So like these people came over 
from England and wanted to 

697
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,120
create this English settlement. 
And it's still like today you 

698
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,400
can go in there and get like 
straight up food from England, 

699
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000
like rabbit Stew and stuff like 
that, but. 

700
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,800
That's cool. 
Write it down, Brian. 

701
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Rugby. 
Rugby, Tennessee. 

702
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,440
Yeah, a Rugby Tennessee, but 
Rugby Rd. 

703
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,400
What's the name of the church? 
Because it was on the road to 

704
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,760
Rugby. 
Yeah, imagine that. 

705
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,360
Yeah. 
But so I had these little 

706
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:33,080
churches and I drove 3 hours to 
seminary each week. 

707
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880
So seminary was in Asbury 
Theological Seminary up in 

708
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Wilmore, KY and so Hwy. 27, 
which used to be the main 

709
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,720
corridor in America before 75 
and 40 and 81, all the 

710
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000
intersects were built. 
So 27 is where I would drive up 

711
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040
every every Monday I would. 
Three hours. 

712
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,000
Yeah, so I would, I would stay. 
Yeah. 

713
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,600
So I would stay. 
Well, I'd stay there Monday 

714
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,680
night, Tuesday night, Wednesday 
night. 

715
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360
And I would drive back after 
class on Thursday. 

716
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680
And I was a pastor Thursday, 
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, then 

717
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Monday I would drive back. 
And I do that for four years. 

718
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,760
Wow, yeah. 
It was, it was quite the 

719
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,400
journey. 
I mean, you know, becoming a 

720
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,360
pastor, going to seminary and 
being ordained. 

721
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,760
And that's where I met Roger 
Galloway. 

722
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,679
Roger is this, it's just, it's 
cool man. 

723
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,639
You know, he, he's married to 
Jane and, and Jane Ronders had 

724
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,639
two daughters. 
And, and when I first moved 

725
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,400
there, like Roger came over and 
helped me fix some things and he

726
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,280
asked me one day he's like, what
is something you want to do? 

727
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,719
And I was like, I always wanted 
to fly an airplane and, and that

728
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,639
was all that was sent. 
And Roger and Jane, they, they 

729
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:39,400
knew I was poor as all could be.
And you know, here I am a single

730
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,480
20 something year old trying to 
live in a town of 600 and go 

731
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,480
back and forth. 
And I really, I didn't have my 

732
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,880
family. 
They lived in Milan and and my 

733
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,520
uncle did Morristown. 
So you come over and see me 

734
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560
every once in a while, but they 
would Take Me Out to eat. 

735
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,679
And I loved it because, you 
know, here, they they they have 

736
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,480
plenty of resources to pay for 
it, you know? 

737
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,320
And then if they found out I was
going to date, he would give me,

738
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,040
like, that $2550 handshake so I 
could, like, go on a, like, real

739
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,440
date, you know? 
Yeah. 

740
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,840
So one day, Rodger calls me, and
he's like, Lou, I heard what you

741
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,320
said. 
And here's this guy's name and 

742
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,680
number. 
His name's Ryan Heil. 

743
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,400
You have an appointment tomorrow
morning at the Oneida airport. 

744
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,880
I'm going to pay for your half 
your flying lessons. 

745
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,320
Oh, that's awesome. 
And so I went out and met Ryan 

746
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,040
and during, during seminary, 
learned how to fly an airplane. 

747
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,760
It was incredible. 
And I, and I think about like 

748
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,720
Roger asked me another things 
like, what else do you want to 

749
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:31,640
do? 
I was like, I always wanted to 

750
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,360
jump out of an airplane. 
He's like perfect, let's go. 

751
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,240
I mean, and I, I, I think he was
in his 60s at this point. 

752
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,320
We drove down to Atlanta and we 
both jumped out of airplanes 

753
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,200
together. 
Wow. 

754
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,400
You know, but I look back on 
that and and I don't know why he

755
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,800
did that, but but to have 
somebody invest inside in you, 

756
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,600
like changes your life for sure,
because if somebody outside of 

757
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,320
your family believes in you and 
wants to help you succeed, 

758
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,000
imagine now I look and I look at
people that I want to help 

759
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,960
succeed because I want out. 
You know, we always say pay it 

760
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,400
forward or whatever that 
whatever word you want to use, 

761
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,440
but to know that he, you know, 
did that was it was pretty 

762
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,400
incredible. 
And yesterday sitting, I 

763
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,920
actually got to fly with my son 
yesterday. 

764
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,240
I was sitting in the back seat. 
I haven't flown in 20 years do. 

765
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,160
You still have your license is. 
It I mean, you technically 

766
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520
always have your license. 
I wouldn't go fly on an airplane

767
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560
until I got, you know, kind of 
recertified and checked out. 

768
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
But but to sit back there and 
all of a sudden it came back, 

769
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,840
but to I was sitting there and 
my son pulled the yolk back for 

770
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,360
the first time and we began to 
take it off. 

771
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,000
And all I could think about was 
like Roger and Jane, you know, 

772
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,240
like they believed in me. 
And I still to this day, they 

773
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,680
send me cards, you know, at 
Christmas and they call me on my

774
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,720
birthday, you know, and, and 
those are people that you know, 

775
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,280
I met when I was young and dumb.
I'm sure you've met people when 

776
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,840
you were young and dumb that 
still check on you. 

777
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Yep, 2005. 
I'm just telling you my whole 

778
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,840
life story. 
Wait, hold on. 

779
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Before you do that, can you turn
the heat up a little bit? 

780
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,840
Are you cold? 
Oh, it's really cold in. 

781
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,880
Here I am freezing. 
Yeah. 

782
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,280
Thanks. 
Thanks, Bray. 

783
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,320
I was just wondering, I was 
like, I probably should have 

784
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,880
wore long sleeves, and I was 
looking over you with your 

785
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,960
sweater or sweatshirt, you know?
And I'm like, well, she's lucky.

786
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,400
Well, I mean, it is supposed to 
be like I think in the 50s or 

787
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,480
60s today. 
But yeah, no, it's OK. 

788
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Yeah. 
All. 

789
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,240
Right. 
You're good. 

790
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,040
You're good. 
Keep. 

791
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Keep going. 
Keep going. 

792
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,480
Sorry, sorry. 
So an O5. 

793
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Life story, yeah. 
So here you go. 

794
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,920
In O5I was with my buddy Matt. 
That's the guy I Trove rode the 

795
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,920
country with. 
He had a best friend for a long 

796
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,120
time. 
What's Matt doing now? 

797
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,880
Do you guys still talk? 
Oh, yeah, yeah. 

798
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:50,280
So Matt is he's a lawyer down in
Chattanooga, and he wears flip 

799
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,000
flops to his office every day. 
Nice. 

800
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,120
And they're not just like real 
flip flops, like 1. 

801
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,840
Like maybe he's a rainbow flip 
flop and the other one might be 

802
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,400
from Walmart. 
They don't even match. 

803
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,600
He puts duct tape on his 
clothing. 

804
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,680
And he's a successful lawyer. 
And he, his boss one day said to

805
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040
him, he said, is that duct tape 
on your jacket? 

806
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560
And he's like, absolutely. 
I've got this jacket for 25 

807
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,880
years. 
You don't think I'd get rid of 

808
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,040
it because I got a little tear 
in it. 

809
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,400
Do you know? 
Like, he's that kind of lawyer, 

810
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,480
you know, he just. 
Yeah. 

811
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,160
Gets it done. 
Yeah, he gets it done. 

812
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,840
And so, yeah, we've been, we've 
been, we travel every year 

813
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,200
together. 
We go fishing together, we go 

814
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480
snowboarding together. 
This past summer we went to 

815
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,320
UTILA with our families together
and just had a great time. 

816
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,720
So Matt's always been around, 
but I drove down to Chattanooga 

817
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,200
to see and actually I might have
flown down there. 

818
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,880
I can't remember because I would
fly down my plane. 

819
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,240
I was renting and it was back 
then, it was real cheap. 

820
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:50,680
But so I'm down there and we 
drove by Harley-Davidson ship 

821
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,800
dealer and I was like, you know,
I would love to save some money 

822
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,080
on gas. 
I should get a motorcycle now. 

823
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Why? 
He didn't say no, you're not 

824
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480
going to save money. 
But he was like, that's a great 

825
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360
idea. 
So we pulled that 

826
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Harley-Davidson dealership and 
they had this bright yellow 

827
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,200
Harley-Davidson and they had 
this bright orange jacket and 

828
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000
I'm like perfect. 
I was like, can we if I buy 

829
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,800
this, can y'all put extra loud 
pipes on it? 

830
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800
I want people to hear me so I 
don't get, you know, it's not 

831
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,480
dangerous. 
And they're like, Oh yeah, Matt.

832
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Oh, the whole time was just, 
that's a great idea of the loof.

833
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:31,160
So February of 2005 I bought a 
brand new Harley-Davidson. 

834
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,240
Yellow Harley-Davidson. 
Did you get the orange jacket? 

835
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,880
Oh, A. 100% good, good. 
And the L pipes. 

836
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,360
And so I'm test driving this 
thing after I bought it because 

837
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,160
they were going to put some some
accessories on it and sure 

838
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,840
enough fell over in the parking 
lot first. 

839
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Yeah, that's a common thing 
though, right? 

840
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Yeah, Brian, that's a common 
thing with cuz Brian used to 

841
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,000
ride. 
He used to have a motorcycle, 

842
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,840
OK. 
And that's a common thing, 

843
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,840
right, Of people when they first
get their motorcycles. 

844
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Or I remember, I remember when I
was young, we were at a 

845
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160
stoplight and it was me and my 
dad. 

846
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,520
And there was a gentleman in 
front of us that was at the 

847
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,960
stoplight, brand new bike, and 
he'd like literally had fallen 

848
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,800
over. 
And so my dad was like, ah, 

849
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,560
shoot. 
So like you put it in the park 

850
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,160
and like got out and, you know, 
helped the guy get the bike back

851
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,280
up. 
And then he was like, are you 

852
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,000
OK? 
And then he's like, I'll follow 

853
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,280
you for a little bit or 
something. 

854
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440
You know, we just like kind of 
followed the guy for a little 

855
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,440
bit to make sure he was good. 
And then like we went on our 

856
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,240
way. 
But it's just like, it's a funny

857
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,760
thing with motorcycles that's 
it's not uncommon. 

858
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,680
I'm sure it's a statistic we. 
Can, I'm sure it is. 

859
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,080
I I bought that thing and and I 
put it on a trailer because 

860
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320
after that I was like, I'm going
to trailer this thing to a 

861
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,520
parking lot and I went to a 
church parking lot in Ottawa, 

862
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,720
Tennessee. 
Ottawa United Methodist Church. 

863
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,320
You ever heard of Ottawa? 
No, it's right outside of 

864
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,920
Chattanooga. 
And I drove around that parking 

865
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480
lot for two hours getting 
comfortable yeah. 

866
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,760
And then I would go a little bit
further than back a little bit, 

867
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,600
you know. 
And so that was in February of 

868
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,760
20/20/2005 Ski. 
Cold. 

869
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,240
That's kind of a cold time to 
ride. 

870
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,280
Yeah, yeah. 
But I had that leather jacket. 

871
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,040
I had leather gloves. 
I mean, I had chaps, I had the, 

872
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,640
I had the whole 9 yard. 
I mean the. 

873
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Pipes were blowing out some. 
Oh, yeah, yeah. 

874
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,360
I mean, I look like that guy 
that never driven a motorcycle 

875
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,600
in his life, ridden a 
motorcycle, you know, So I was 

876
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
driving it back and forth to 
school and it, and I did save a 

877
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,240
ton of money on gas because I 
mean, things burn hardly 

878
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,160
anything and there's three hours
each way. 

879
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,760
And, and so I decided I'm going 
to go visit my parents and I 

880
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,120
didn't tell anybody about a 
motorcycle. 

881
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,600
Ain't nobody except Matt. 
So I drove from Lexington, KY on

882
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:54,200
a Tuesday, I think, and I drove 
to Mylan, Tennessee and pulled 

883
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,600
up in the driveway up. 
Here how far is that? 

884
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,400
It's probably like 5 1/2 hours. 
Oh, OK. 

885
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,800
And I pull up and my dad thinks 
he's all one of his old buddies 

886
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,960
until I take my helmet off. 
And then my mother's like, what 

887
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,720
did you do? 
And my dad like, yeah, you know,

888
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,920
'cause he drove motorcycles his 
whole life. 

889
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,840
And so you know what Dad takes 
out for a spin. 

890
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,560
And like, I'm so excited to 
drive to my aunt's house and 

891
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,000
heriage. 
Like I look up to her. 

892
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,960
Like she was like that aunt that
that took care of me when I was 

893
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,040
little, you know, she became a 
pilot. 

894
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,720
She rode 3 Wheeler. 
She haunted, you know, she's 

895
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,280
done it all. 
And like, I'm kind of like, I 

896
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,400
want to be her, you know, like, 
like you have like that family 

897
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,960
member that you look at their 
life and you're like, yes, 

898
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
that's the life I want. 
And that was her. 

899
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,840
And and then it was Good Friday,
2005 S March 25th, 2005. 

900
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,480
And I had to preach that night. 
And so I got up that morning and

901
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,960
went to Nashville, had lunch 
with a friend of mine, Jennifer 

902
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Mills with been friends forever.
And I got back on the road and I

903
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560
wanted to take Highway 70 
instead of the Interstate home. 

904
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,840
And I missed the turn. 
I couldn't find it. 

905
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,280
So I pulled over next to the 
Titan Stadium and ask a police 

906
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,400
officer. 
In fact, police officer was 

907
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,640
working a motorcycle wreck. 
This is kind of crazy to think 

908
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,960
about. 
And I and I said I'm looking for

909
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,960
Highway 70. 
Can you tell me how to get 

910
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,680
there? 
And he told me, and that's the 

911
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,960
last thing I remember. 
I was evidently, according to 

912
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,880
witnesses, I was sitting in a 
turning lane waiting to get into

913
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,160
a gas station and a truck pulled
out of the turn at the gas 

914
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,880
station and ran me over. 
And so March 25th, 2005, I was, 

915
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,720
you know, hit by the truck, 
destroyed my motorcycle, cracked

916
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:41,360
my had a full helmet, cracked it
completely in half and burnt my 

917
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,280
right leg and broke every bone 
of my, my, my hip, my femur or 

918
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,080
not my hip, my femur, tibula, 
fibula, all the months of my 

919
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,400
feet and spent six months in a 
wheelchair. 

920
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,920
Wow. 
And that was it was tough. 

921
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,920
So you don't remember, like you 
don't even remember waiting to 

922
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,040
turn. 
No. 

923
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:03,080
You just got taken out and then 
did you wake up in the hospital?

924
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:07,800
Woke up in the hospital. 
I remember waking up and there 

925
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,080
was like something around my 
neck. 

926
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,200
I remember trying to grab it 
like I couldn't figure out where

927
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,280
I was or what was going on and 
they were. 

928
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,960
Like that's got to feel weird. 
They were like, you need to calm

929
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,120
down, you know, and I, and then 
the next day, I remember waking 

930
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,680
up from surgery. 
But, you know, a couple of the 

931
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,040
stories from that moment, about 
a year later, I went back to the

932
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,560
gas station and. 
And I just wanted to like, see 

933
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,040
if I can remember it. 
And I walked in and I said to 

934
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,000
the cleric, I was like, hey, a 
year ago it was a motorcycle 

935
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,880
wreck. 
Do you remember that? 

936
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,280
They're like, yeah. 
And I was like, well, tell me 

937
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,480
about it. 
And the guy was like, well, I 

938
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,560
don't. 
I never saw the wreck. 

939
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,320
All I could hear was the 
screaming coming from the man 

940
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,320
that was laying on the ground. 
And we thought he was going to 

941
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040
die. 
And I was like, why? 

942
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,760
And he's like, because he was in
so much pain. 

943
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,760
I was like, well, that was me. 
And I pulled up my leg and I 

944
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,680
showed him the hole in my still 
have a hole in my leg. 

945
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:02,200
And my parents must, you know, I
just got, you know, cell phones 

946
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,000
weren't new, so. 
But I had evidently the nurse 

947
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,160
had asked me my mother's name. 
And my mother's name is Jane. 

948
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,480
And guess who the first Jane 
they called was Roger and Jane. 

949
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,720
And he called mother Jane. 
And my mother, my Jane was like,

950
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:16,920
no, you called, he called the 
wrong Jane, you know, but I 

951
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,640
think they either have my number
or her number somehow. 

952
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,600
They call mother and my mother, 
they're like, hey, this is or 

953
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,680
abandoned hospital and you're 
looking at a motorcycle wreck. 

954
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,120
He's alive and but we're going 
to cut his leg off. 

955
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,920
My mother's dude said, what do 
you do? 

956
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,840
Whatever you got to do to save 
his leg. 

957
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,880
And my dad's an eye doctor and 
and I guess she wait till he's 

958
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,560
done without a patient and and 
she tells him and you know, my 

959
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,720
parents, they got the car and my
sister works for him and they 

960
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:51,000
drove to Nashville, but they 
called a girl named Christy. 

961
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,640
Christy was like when I was a 
little kid, like she was my 

962
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,800
sister's best friend and she 
lived in Nashville. 

963
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,400
In fact, Christy was the first 
girl I ever took on a date. 

964
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,200
It wasn't a real date. 
I thought it was when I was a 

965
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,240
little kid, but she's just being
nice. 

966
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,160
But we took her to Pizza Hut and
they worked. 

967
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,880
Pizza Hut, Yeah. 
Christy came and they let her in

968
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,880
the in the emergency room and I 
don't remember this at all, but 

969
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,400
this is a story she tells. 
She says that the nurse kept 

970
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,160
saying Lou like how bad's the 
pain? 

971
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,120
And all I would say is it's not 
that bad. 

972
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,840
And they were like, but you got 
to give us a scale like 1 to 10 

973
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,320
how bad it's been. 
And they were out. 

974
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,160
And I would say it's just not, 
it's not that bad. 

975
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Now you got to think about it. 
My leg, I broke every bone in 

976
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,560
it. 
Like the bottom part of my leg 

977
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,800
was going the wrong way. 
Like it was burnt. 

978
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Clearly it was painful. 
And they finally said, well, why

979
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,960
is it not that bad? 
And I just said because Jesus is

980
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,680
with me and God is with me. 
And so it's not that bad. 

981
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,920
And then she said, I greeted up 
and I grabbed her hand. 

982
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,840
I don't remember this. 
And I said, you need to lay 

983
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,360
hands on me right now and pray 
for me. 

984
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,280
And she's like, here I came to 
the hospital to take care of 

985
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,480
you. 
And you know, she's sorry. 

986
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,960
She's saying. 
And she's like, and then you 

987
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,920
reached up and was like, pray 
for me, you know, and like I, I 

988
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,040
look back on that and I think 
about that all the time, no 

989
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,920
matter what I'm going through in
life, it's not that bad. 

990
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Why? 
Because God is with me and, and,

991
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,640
and I don't remember saying that
I'm thankful that somebody told 

992
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,800
me I did. 
But no matter of what's happened

993
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,640
since then, that's what I think.
It ain't that bad. 

994
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,840
No matter how painful something 
is, no matter how much you make 

995
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,400
a mistake, no matter what you've
went through, no matter, you 

996
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,280
know, divorce was awful, right? 
Like making mistakes is awful, 

997
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,200
but it ain't that bad. 
Why? 

998
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,760
Because God is is with me. 
Jesus is with me. 

999
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,720
I spent six months in a 
wheelchair and it was a long six

1000
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,120
months because I had to move 
back into my parents house. 

1001
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Yeah, you know, I had the 
freedom of living. 

1002
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,440
How old were you at this point? 
I was 20. 

1003
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Oh, OK. 
Yeah, well, I guess I was more 

1004
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,520
than older than that. 2005 to 
81, That's 2324. 

1005
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,680
I can't do math evidently right 
now. 

1006
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Sorry. 
Only it's not multiplication. 

1007
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,080
Yeah, yeah, that's true. 
That's not your strength suit. 

1008
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,360
So I guess I was 23. 
You were in your 20s. 

1009
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Yeah, and I've been living on my
own since, you know, for a 

1010
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,040
while. 
And here I am moving back into 

1011
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,240
college, back into my parents 
house and had to rely on my mom 

1012
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,720
to help me go to the bathroom. 
And you know, I couldn't take 

1013
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:22,000
care of my churches anymore. 
So I had to send somebody to 

1014
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,360
take care of my churches while I
was going home. 

1015
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,320
I had to finish my classes. 
Like, once I got better, I could

1016
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000
finish my classes online. 
But that was horrible, too. 

1017
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,160
But it gave some great time. 
My dad drove me to school. 

1018
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,400
Like, you know, I'll say I 
never. 

1019
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,400
He had to drive me to school so 
I could take finals, you know, 

1020
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,360
And, you know, I never wished 
that upon my kids. 

1021
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,600
But I promise, if they need me 
to drive to school again one 

1022
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,040
day, I will. 
That was a hard year. 

1023
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,680
Yeah. 2005. 
So it was 21 years ago. 

1024
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,200
But I learned a lot, you know, 
from them, you know, having a 

1025
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,680
motorcycle rack and a buddy, 
Matt, he's like, you ever going 

1026
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,680
to quit talking about that? 
I'm like, I can't hurt every 

1027
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,960
every day when I wake up after 
I'm in so much pain when I first

1028
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,960
start walking because it still 
hurts. 

1029
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,640
But I, I use that no matter 
what, where I go, what I'm going

1030
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,480
through. 
I use that because, you know, 

1031
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,840
even if I've been hurting for 
2025 years, right, and or 20 

1032
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,560
years, 21 years every day, but 
it's not going to slow me down. 

1033
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:27,280
Why would I let it slow me down?
Yeah. 

1034
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,960
You know, I can either hurt 
doing nothing or I can hurt 

1035
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,840
doing everything. 
Yeah, it doesn't really matter. 

1036
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,160
Yeah. 
There was a, a woman. 

1037
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,600
So I moved. 
I grew up in the Midwest and 

1038
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,720
then we moved to the Northeast 
before my junior year of high 

1039
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,000
school, which, you know, in 
hindsight wasn't that big a 

1040
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,720
deal. 
But if you're a sophomore in 

1041
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:52,560
high school and your parents are
like, we're moving to a 

1042
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,040
completely different state on a 
different part of the country, 

1043
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,560
let's go have some fun. 
It wasn't, I wasn't too thrilled

1044
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,760
about it at the time. 
I was like, what are you doing 

1045
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,800
to me? 
You know, So we moved to the 

1046
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,760
Northeast and that's, I actually
met Brian in high school. 

1047
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,080
We were best friends in high 
school, but we didn't date. 

1048
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,640
And so I, and it's so funny 
'cause like the, there's a 

1049
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,600
couple core people in my life 
that I'm still friends with to 

1050
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,400
this day. 
And I met them. 

1051
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,120
I met them when I moved, which 
is funny, but there's this woman

1052
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,840
and it's so funny. 
You've gotten me twice today. 

1053
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:34,800
So before my senior year of high
school, my parents moved again. 

1054
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,520
I don't know why I'm crying so 
much. 

1055
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,240
Excuse you got me emotional 
today, Lou. 

1056
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:47,560
So I just, it was my senior year
and God was like, I'm not done 

1057
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,160
with you here yet. 
Your parents are going to move, 

1058
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,400
but you can't. 
And I was like, what? 

1059
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:00,320
I, I'm just, you know, 17 year 
old kid, you're not done with 

1060
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,360
me. 
What the heck does that mean? 

1061
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,080
I didn't even want to be here in
the 1st place. 

1062
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,360
Like I don't want to stay in 
this place. 

1063
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,000
I want to move and get out of 
here. 

1064
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Like it was, I was, I was like, 
I don't want to stay. 

1065
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,800
And I was like, Dang it, all 
right, OK, got so I went to my 

1066
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,120
parents and I was like, I'm not 
supposed to move. 

1067
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,280
I don't really know what that 
looks like for you guys, but so 

1068
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,080
they, they're my neighbor at the
time. 

1069
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,680
Was this like 75 year old woman?
Laura, this is crazy. 

1070
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,240
Brian's like, yes, this is going
to be good for the podcast. 

1071
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,440
He is losing it. 
Kidding. 

1072
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,400
So she you're reminding me this 
because she would wake up every 

1073
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,680
day and take care of people who 
are dying and she would get up 

1074
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,280
and she would say, hey, you're 
in pain. 

1075
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,000
Are you living or dying today? 
So it was really cool because 

1076
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,080
like my, my senior year, my 
parents paid for me to live with

1077
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,400
her, which was like, you know, 
gosh, I'm like 18 years old 

1078
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,440
living with this 7 year old 
woman who just gets up and even 

1079
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,520
on like tough days for me of 
like, why the heck does God have

1080
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,520
me here? 
Or like, what am I doing? 

1081
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,560
I don't want to live here. 
Like what I want to be with my 

1082
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,800
family, like all those things. 
And she'd be like, well, are you

1083
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,920
going to live or die today? 
And I was like, OK, Laura, I'm 

1084
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:30,040
going to live, you know, like 
typical high school, like, you 

1085
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,960
know, in the 90s. 
OK, I'll go put on some silver 

1086
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,560
chair and drive myself to 
school. 

1087
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,920
So it's just really funny. 
So that just reminded me like of

1088
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,040
those moments, you know, that 
you said, it's like, we have 

1089
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,720
some of those moments. 
And it's like, huh, it's really 

1090
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:45,720
cool. 
So here we go. 

1091
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,880
Here we go. 
Let's just edit all of that out 

1092
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,440
because I'm a mess now. 
Right. 

1093
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,920
It's all right. 
Yeah. 

1094
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Anything is that I. 
Think it should be a perfect 

1095
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,600
time for Beth and her, her, her.
What is her business called? 

1096
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,440
The the new one from women. 
Yeah. 

1097
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,120
This segment was brought to you 
by Beth Jinx at Pro Compounding 

1098
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,240
Pharmacy. 
If you're in your 40s and you 

1099
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,760
start crying out of random 
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1100
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,800
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She will take care of you. 

1101
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,560
It's like perimenopause in its 
finest. 

1102
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Oh, gosh, that and coupled with 
like not much sleep last night. 

1103
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Gosh, no. 
But you know what? 

1104
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,720
Anything that comes to like, 
God, a lot, it gets me any 

1105
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,520
anyways, like I, I'm a, I'm a 
crier to begin with, but yeah, 

1106
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,840
total perimenopause moment. 
And then, you know, our son came

1107
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,240
into our bedroom at what, what 
time? 

1108
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,080
What was that like 1:00 this 
morning? 

1109
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,760
And he was just like, hey, guys.
What's happening? 

1110
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Can we can we be awake? 
And we were like, no, looking at

1111
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,280
the clock like, gosh. 
So it's funny because the only 

1112
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,080
so my mom will watch this and 
then she'll she'll be crying 

1113
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,760
with me because, you know, 
she'll be like, and then 

1114
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,360
everybody will laugh at the 
maybe Beth will watch it. 

1115
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,200
And then she'll be like, yeah, 
Beth, I just got so a lot of 

1116
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,160
blood work done. 
I got to get to Beth so she can 

1117
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,800
like analyze it. 
So anyways, there we go if. 

1118
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680
Analyze you learn something. 
I can promise you that, whether 

1119
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,840
it's mentally or physically. 
Sometimes she'll call me and 

1120
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,880
she's. 
Over now anyways. 

1121
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,360
She'll say, She'll say I need to
tell you something. 

1122
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,320
Oh, gosh. 
What do you need to tell me 

1123
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,560
today? 
Because I know I'm going to 

1124
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,440
learn something. 
Yeah. 

1125
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,080
But she has like, her voice, 
though. 

1126
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,720
It's just so great. 
What you know who has the best 

1127
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,080
voice ever is Audrey. 
Oh yeah. 

1128
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Who's in our class? 
Like I if I if I ever have 

1129
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,720
something wrong with me, I want 
Audrey to deliver that 

1130
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,720
information because she has like
literally the best voice all. 

1131
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,360
The time when she, when she 
speaks over there, I'm like, oh,

1132
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,560
that's so nice. 
Yeah. 

1133
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,640
I'm just going to close my eye. 
Where is Audrey right now? 

1134
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,480
Well, and that's how we met 
though was we met you at one of 

1135
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,400
you know, because we're in a 
cohort together, we're all 

1136
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,480
learning about how to 
successfully use AI and 

1137
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,040
integrate it into our marketing.
Yeah, y'all sat next to me. 

1138
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,920
Yeah, we sat. 
Next row because I'm a front row

1139
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,880
kind of guy. 
And then we were like, wow, 

1140
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,120
smash meals because I have a 
gluten intolerance. 

1141
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,160
And so we just do, we don't, we 
don't have gluten in our house. 

1142
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,080
And I was like, Oh my gosh, we 
got to talk to this guy. 

1143
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,120
And then you also offer a 
discount to our tenants at 

1144
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,560
Gumball properties. 
And so like, that's just it's 

1145
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,080
really cool because we actually 
have a a girl that moved into 

1146
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:34,240
one of our houses recently and 
she was like, I was like, Hey, 

1147
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,680
tell me a little bit about 
yourself because we like to know

1148
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,680
if, you know, we either have a 
lot of involvement with our 

1149
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,680
tenants or none at all, whatever
they want. 

1150
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,560
But a lot of times if it's 
somebody like she's relocating 

1151
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,680
here. 
And so it's like, Hey, I need a 

1152
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,640
church. 
OK, here you go. 

1153
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Here are a couple of churches. 
Try these outlet me know if you 

1154
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,680
like them. 
Oh, I need a gym. 

1155
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,400
Here you go. 
Here are some local restaurants.

1156
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,680
Like it's so it's really cool 
that we have the opportunity to 

1157
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,400
offer discounts to our tenants. 
And she was like, Oh, I have a 

1158
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,400
gluten, I have a gluten allergy.
And I was like, girl, I got you 

1159
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,920
smash meals, here you go. 
And so it's just, it's just 

1160
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,000
really cool to be able to 
partner together like that too, 

1161
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,600
because we love just partnering 
with other local businesses that

1162
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,880
it's just really cool. 
It's just, and I've talked about

1163
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,600
this before that the business 
culture here is so inviting and 

1164
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,240
it nothing is threatening. 
Like nobody feels threatened by 

1165
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,760
what business you do. 
And it's it's cool to have the 

1166
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,520
collaboration. 
And then we were like, Hey, Lou,

1167
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,880
would you mind giving our 
tenants a discount? 

1168
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,320
You were like, sure, let's do 
it. 

1169
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,760
Here you go. 
And we were like, oh, OK, cool. 

1170
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,720
Why not? 
Yeah. 

1171
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,040
And so it's just really fun. 
And then we got to partner 

1172
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,440
together with you for the 
hurricane relief stuff. 

1173
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,360
That was really cool. 
And that was amazing. 

1174
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,880
It was that was like in and of 
itself. 

1175
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,880
You were, you were pulled in so 
many different directions than 

1176
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,360
you normally are anyways. 
Yeah. 

1177
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,000
So like, are you still involved 
in any of that? 

1178
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,600
It's funny you say that. 
So, you know, I don't know. 

1179
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,840
When did that happen? 
October of 2024. 

1180
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,400
And that was on a Friday. 
And that Sunday I drove to, I 

1181
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,840
found a way to get to Asheville,
NC. 

1182
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,200
It took me 5 hours, which is 
normally like an hour full of 

1183
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,840
supplies and dropped them off 
for at a friend of mine's house 

1184
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,480
so that she could distribute 
them from there. 

1185
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,280
And she wasn't even there 
because she was stuck at the 

1186
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,920
hospital. 
She was a nurse, right? 

1187
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,600
And, and I remember like 
knocking on her door after 5 1/2

1188
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,880
hours and her son comes to and 
he's like, Lou, how did you get 

1189
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,080
here? 
I was like, I don't, I don't 

1190
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,640
have a clue. 
Now I got to figure out how to 

1191
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,960
get back. 
I don't even know how I got here

1192
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,760
'cause I kept turning down roads
and there'd be a bridge washed 

1193
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:43,720
out and I turned down another 
Rd. 

1194
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,960
There'd be, you know, half the 
road washed out. 

1195
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,120
And my son was with me and, you 
know, we navigated and figured 

1196
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,760
it out. 
But through that, you know, I 

1197
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,280
was able to help so many 
thousands and thousands of 

1198
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,880
people with with food and gas 
and, and diapers and wipes and 

1199
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,560
bottles of water and, and a 
friend of mine, her name is 

1200
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Cindy. 
Cindy's mom would see stuff I 

1201
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,000
put on the Internet and Cindy's 
mom would send Cindy money who 

1202
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,400
would send it to me, who then I 
would go spend it and I would 

1203
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,160
thank her, you know, 'cause 
there was a lot of people that 

1204
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,280
helped me with that. 
I mean, I spent a lot of my own 

1205
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,120
money, but but people help me, 
you know, to be able to pull 

1206
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,640
that off. 
Like y'all showing up and 

1207
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,120
delivering and, and helping pack
and, and do all that. 

1208
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,520
So Cindy's mom lives in West 
Virginia. 

1209
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,240
And so every once in a while 
Cindy will call me and she's 

1210
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,240
like, hey, you almost know if 
you do anything, like I do stuff

1211
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,400
all the time, I just don't talk 
about it. 

1212
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,240
And she's like, all right, she's
sending you some money. 

1213
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,920
So then every time Cindy's mom 
sends it, she sends it to Cindy.

1214
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,240
Cindy sends it to me. 
And then I'll like, I'll make a 

1215
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,760
video or I'll make a post so 
that she knows Cindy's mom knows

1216
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,800
what the money's going towards. 
So our most recent money that 

1217
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,480
she sent me, well, not the most 
recent because that was here, 

1218
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,080
but about a few months ago we 
went back to one of the areas we

1219
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:58,000
worked in and over in the Green 
Mountain area and we took $1000 

1220
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,840
worth of Christmas toys and just
dropped them off. 

1221
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,000
The local fire department said 
y'all do whatever you want with 

1222
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,080
it. 
Y'all know who needs help. 

1223
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,880
And I mean, I, I was, that was 
amazing. 

1224
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:13,720
Just, you know, having people 
trust me to trust, to bless 

1225
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,800
others. 
You know, that that's been that 

1226
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,160
for the hurricane. 
That was something that just 

1227
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,880
kept blowing my mind because 
people from Texas, Oklahoma, 

1228
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:30,200
California, Colorado, Oregon, 
Idaho, Indiana, Illinois, 

1229
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,840
Virginia, Kentucky, West 
Virginia, Tennessee, 

1230
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,600
Mississippi. 
There was a church in 

1231
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,240
Mississippi. 
It sent me $5000 and they were 

1232
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,400
like, just go and give it away, 
you know, and I went and bought 

1233
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,200
$5000 worth of propane. 
That's a lot of propane. 

1234
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,160
That's a lot of propane, but 
necessary. 

1235
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,880
I mean, there's so many people 
that would was one of the major 

1236
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,040
things that people needed. 
Yeah, and just to have people 

1237
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,600
trust me to go and do God's 
work. 

1238
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,560
And we we look back and just 
like that Lady, right? 

1239
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,360
Somebody trusted that Lady, that
your parents trusted her to take

1240
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,920
care of you, but she wasn't 
entrusted to take care of the 

1241
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,960
people. 
And that probably wasn't the 

1242
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,880
only thing that she did. 
That's just what stood out in 

1243
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,640
your mind, right. 
And so hurricane relief is not 

1244
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,000
the only thing I do, but some 
people know me just as the 

1245
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,880
hurricane relief guy. 
Somebody called my one of the 

1246
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,920
guys in my church. 
And they were like, hey, we're 

1247
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,640
on the way to Tennessee from 
Indiana. 

1248
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,000
And we heard that that there was
that guy that was helping 

1249
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,880
people. 
And they were like, what guy? 

1250
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,120
And they were like, you know 
that guy? 

1251
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,720
And they figured out it was me, 
but they just knew me as that 

1252
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,720
guy. 
They drove from Indiana to 

1253
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,200
Tennessee because they heard 
about that guy. 

1254
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,960
And I'm like, and it's weird for
me to hear people think about 

1255
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,920
like that because like, I, I'm 
just doing what God tells me to 

1256
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,520
do. 
Like, and to be trusted through 

1257
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,800
that is, is a big deal, you 
know, and we all have those 

1258
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,640
moments in our lives where, and 
I hope we do, where we are 

1259
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,920
entrusted to do something great.
We're entrusted to do something 

1260
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,360
small, we're entrusted to do 
something big, but we have to go

1261
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,120
and do it. 
You know, I think a lot of times

1262
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,760
I'm, I'm working with this guy 
in my church right now and he is

1263
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,400
like the best friendship 
evangelist out there, but, but 

1264
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,720
he doesn't always make the next 
step. 

1265
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,360
And I'm like, you got to take 
him to the next step. 

1266
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,840
You know, it's one thing to be, 
to be called to do something. 

1267
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:18,920
There's another thing to go do 
it. 

1268
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,040
For sure. 
And I think there's there's huge

1269
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,800
disconnecting our Society of 
people who know they're called 

1270
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,720
but they don't do it I. 
Think they're scared, yeah. 

1271
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,680
And they don't know like how or 
they and they don't have like 

1272
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,880
they don't have somebody around 
them to be like take the dive or

1273
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,560
do this. 
And I think that they just get 

1274
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,760
scared and they get in their own
head. 

1275
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,680
And then just with the way that 
our society is, it's so 

1276
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,520
self-serving. 
And so it's really anti God's 

1277
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,520
message, right? 
Because it's not God's message 

1278
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,800
is completely upside down. 
It's not self-serving. 

1279
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,480
It's oh, they're serving. 
And so like our society, like we

1280
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,120
become so selfish. 
And so I think that's people's 

1281
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,040
problems is that they're in 
their head and they're like, oh,

1282
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,040
I can't do that because then 
somebody else might see it or 

1283
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,120
social media or something else. 
And then like, I might lose my 

1284
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,040
job or I might. 
And then they just kind of 

1285
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,240
spiral and then they talk 
themselves out of it. 

1286
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,680
So. 
It's almost like you were at my 

1287
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,520
church last Sunday because when 
I was in 6th grade and I 

1288
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,240
preached on this last Sunday, we
had the self esteem day. 

1289
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,360
And I know they meant well, but 
we have this whole day set aside

1290
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,520
to boost our self esteem, right?
And they brought in speakers, 

1291
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,720
they brought in like all this 
stuff and they were like, you 

1292
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,600
can do it. 
You can believe in yourself, you

1293
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,200
can work harder, you can be 
smarter, you can be wiser, you 

1294
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,560
can be stronger if you just 
believe in yourself and you have

1295
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,920
self esteem, whatever. 
The very next Sunday. 

1296
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,440
So like that was on a Thursday 
or Friday. 

1297
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,080
I go to church on Sunday. 
My preacher stands in the pulpit

1298
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,920
and says, you're never going to 
be smart enough. 

1299
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,640
You're never going to be strong 
enough, you're never going to be

1300
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,000
wise enough, you're never going 
to have enough money. 

1301
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,280
And once you realize that, then 
you can count on God and God 

1302
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,600
will pick you up and you can do 
it. 

1303
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,400
And I remember in my mind being 
a 6th grader and thinking, OK, 

1304
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,680
my school tells me that I'll be 
smart enough, strong enough, 

1305
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120
wise enough, I can do anything 
that I believe in. 

1306
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,040
And my preacher tells me I 
cannot because in that moment 

1307
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,880
you have to count on God. 
And so I got my preacher and I'm

1308
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,720
like, you're going to tell me. 
And he's like, he's like, well, 

1309
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,800
society means well, but what God
is wants is you to realize you 

1310
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,880
cannot do it on your own. 
You're never going to have 

1311
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,120
enough money. 
You're never going to be strong 

1312
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,880
enough, smart enough, wise 
enough, look good enough, 

1313
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,000
whatever. 
And once you realize that and 

1314
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,920
you start counting on God, God's
going to lead you, right? 

1315
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,760
Because then you focus on God. 
But school is trying to help you

1316
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,880
to be smart enough, but the 
focus is the wrong direction. 

1317
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,480
Yeah, of course you want to 
study. 

1318
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,360
Of course you want to work out. 
Of course you want to do all 

1319
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,000
these things, but at the end of 
the day, you're never going to 

1320
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,440
be good enough. 
And that's where Jesus was sent.

1321
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,720
Jesus was sent to make that 
connection because we were never

1322
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,320
going to be good enough. 
And once we realize that, you 

1323
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,480
know, it's like the the little 
engine that you could, you know,

1324
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,880
I think I can, I think I can 
think it's the wrong story. 

1325
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,680
We're teaching our children. 
It's not about, I think I can, 

1326
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:06,120
it's with God's help, I can, 
with God's direction, I can, 

1327
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,520
with God's love, I can forgive. 
With God's help, I can serve the

1328
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:14,200
needy, you know, but if you try 
to go do it on your own, you're 

1329
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,320
going to fail, you know, and, 
and I, I truly believe that with

1330
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,200
all my heart that we teach our 
society wrong. 

1331
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:27,280
Well, our society isn't moral, 
so it doesn't. 

1332
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,960
Our society as a whole doesn't 
have that moral compass. 

1333
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:35,120
And so they don't, they don't 
feel the creator in that sense. 

1334
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,360
You know what I mean? 
Like they don't, they're not. 

1335
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,480
So if you are not, which is 
funny because we're all bent 

1336
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,440
towards that because of how we 
were created. 

1337
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,880
We're how we're supposed to be, 
But every day we end up, we're 

1338
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,000
falling, obviously because of 
Adam and Eve. 

1339
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,960
That's how it started. 
So like we already, we're 

1340
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,200
already starting in the 
negative. 

1341
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,320
And so that is just where a lot 
of people are operating and 

1342
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,320
they're so just, they're just 
never going to come from here 

1343
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,640
because they just, they can't. 
And society doesn't know how to 

1344
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,520
handle that as a whole because 
they've just gone so well. 

1345
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:07,520
Right? 
That's what I think. 

1346
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,960
I don't know, maybe that's, it's
pretty, we're getting pretty 

1347
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,040
deep here, Lou. 
I don't mind as long as I don't 

1348
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,200
have another perimenopause 
moment where I just like 

1349
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,960
Brian's. 
Like cash, please, yes. 

1350
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,080
I don't know. 
I say release it, just let it 

1351
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,920
out. 
What's that? 

1352
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,160
What's that? 
What's that saying? 

1353
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,440
That the tears clean the soul? 
You know, I used to make fun of 

1354
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,800
my grandfather in my mind all 
the time because he would cry 

1355
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,280
over everything. 
And then my dad started crying 

1356
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,640
over everything. 
And then I realized I started 

1357
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,520
crying over everything. 
Oh, man. 

1358
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,040
You know, like, like, what's 
going on with me? 

1359
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,600
And I think you finally get to 
that moment, for me anyway, that

1360
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,520
it's OK to release. 
Yeah. 

1361
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,560
Well, crying has always been if 
I'm happy, if I'm sad, if I'm 

1362
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,280
stressed, if I'm frustrated, 
crying has always been there. 

1363
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,560
And so The funny thing about 
going through perimenopause is 

1364
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,160
that like, I mean, I don't, I 
don't, I'm, I'm already there 

1365
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,960
all the time anyways. 
That's just how I operate in 

1366
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,360
that emotional level of, oh, I 
just got to cry it out and then 

1367
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,520
I'll feel better. 
But I mean, it's just, you know,

1368
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,040
just hilarious. 
So a question I have for you and

1369
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,800
if both of y'all had their mics 
and I'd ask you both, they're 

1370
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,440
like what do you think about 
smash meals? 

1371
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,240
Like besides the idea of it, 
like what? 

1372
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:20,400
What have you seen like as a 
business, as another 

1373
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,360
entrepreneur, Like what is 
something that you see as a 

1374
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,360
positive or something you may be
today? 

1375
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,320
You could teach me like you 
could say, you know, Lou, if you

1376
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,800
did this better, it might help 
your business. 

1377
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,520
Well, we've tried your food, 
We've had your food. 

1378
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,400
Brian doesn't have a microphone,
so you're gonna have to just 

1379
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,920
kind of talk through me or I'll 
just talk for both of us. 

1380
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,760
Brian doesn't like being on the 
microphone. 

1381
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:39,840
He likes being behind the 
camera. 

1382
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,440
And we think you crush it. 
We think that the social media 

1383
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,360
is fun. 
We've, we've gotten to know you 

1384
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,640
on a personal level though, too.
And so we just know your heart 

1385
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,920
and we know how genuine you are.
And I think that that comes 

1386
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,720
across through Smash meals is 
that it's not just something 

1387
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,800
that you can order online or 
that you can go pick up at one 

1388
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,480
of the gyms, or I mean, you're 
in so many different locations 

1389
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,040
too that you can just go and 
pick up. 

1390
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,360
And I just think it's, I think 
that you can feel the 

1391
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,160
genuineness through everything 
that you do. 

1392
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,880
And even because you've talked 
about, you told us before, when 

1393
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:17,200
you go into different stores or 
gyms and stuff you like, you 

1394
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,480
don't sell them. 
Like you don't try and like do 

1395
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,080
all these things like you have a
partnership with these 

1396
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,800
businesses, right? 
And then you don't expect them 

1397
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,080
to pay a lot of money you'd 
like. 

1398
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,640
It's just things like that, like
you just take care of people 

1399
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,400
along the way. 
And so you can see that through 

1400
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,200
all of Smash meals. 
Oh, thank you. 

1401
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,000
And you can feel it too, when 
you're eating Smash meals too. 

1402
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,000
Thank you. 
And so I don't do we do we have 

1403
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:45,360
any advice for Lou? 
What? 

1404
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,120
He's crushing it. 
I already said that. 

1405
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,120
Ryan crushing it a. 
Yeah, Brian's. 

1406
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,680
Brian's actually having a 
perimenopause moment in the 

1407
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:00,200
corner and he's crying too, No? 
Kidding, it's funny you said 

1408
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,120
that yesterday I did a catering 
event for 90 people at John City

1409
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,920
Eye Clinic and my son said to 
me, he's like, you know, a 

1410
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,400
couple years ago, LB or dad, you
would have freaked out if you 

1411
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,080
had a 90 person catering event. 
He's like today you didn't even 

1412
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,600
think about it. 
You just we just did it. 

1413
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,479
And so yesterday I reached out 
to one of the people that was 

1414
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,520
there and I just said, hey, 
thank you for letting me come 

1415
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,040
and serve your clinic. 
They have 90 employees there, by

1416
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,520
the way. 
Wow. 

1417
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,800
And I'd like a baked potato bar,
a salad bar. 

1418
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,920
I had grilled chicken that was 
kind of cut up so you could put 

1419
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,200
it on the baked potato or the 
salad. 

1420
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,479
And I make homemade ranch 
dressing and white, homemade 

1421
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,960
white balsamic vinegar. 
And we had sour cream and butter

1422
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,040
that we whipped up. 
And, and I add a little bit of 

1423
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,560
salt and honey to it, you know, 
And I thought that'd be perfect.

1424
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,680
And, and so I said, how was it? 
She's like, everybody loves it 

1425
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:50,399
perfect. 
You know, that's the normal 

1426
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,359
answer you get. 
You know, Facebook last night, I

1427
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,560
kind of posted a picture, you 
know, the naughty, I was like, 

1428
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,800
naughty people. 
It's no big deal. 

1429
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,240
Whatever you got, we can take 
care of. 

1430
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,680
The first comment was somebody 
who was there that ate the food 

1431
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,000
and they were like, that food's 
amazing. 

1432
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,479
And I was like, oh, thank you. 
What was the your favorite part?

1433
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,399
And she was, she said the salad 
with the chicken and the 

1434
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:11,240
cookies. 
And I just laughed because, 

1435
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,960
like, I didn't even remember 
that I left cookies, you know, 

1436
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,760
But I, you know, we make, we 
make homemade cookies, chocolate

1437
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,040
chips, sugar cookies. 
We make all sorts of cookies. 

1438
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:24,080
And, and I think a lot of people
think gluten free is horrible. 

1439
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,840
Yeah. 
But, well, it used to be. 

1440
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,160
Until you try our gluten free 
cookies, most people you can't 

1441
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,880
even tell. 
Like if you really start 

1442
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,160
thinking about it and you know, 
it's gluten free, then you can 

1443
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,560
start picking up some of the 
different textures in them. 

1444
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,640
But it made me happy, you know, 
like to know that that that was 

1445
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:42,880
something I didn't even think 
about it. 

1446
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,319
Like honestly didn't even think 
about it. 

1447
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:46,720
But she loved the salad that 
made me happy. 

1448
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:50,200
Daisy, she makes the best salads
when she's there. 

1449
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,600
Like, it's amazing. 
My children are so different. 

1450
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,080
Like LB just wants to cut meat, 
cook some meat, you know, and 

1451
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,400
Daisy's over there making the 
salad and she's putting the 

1452
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,920
cucumbers and the tomatoes and 
it making it look all pretty 

1453
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,880
and, and, and, and it's amazing 
how different they are. 

1454
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,040
But, you know, I got to help 
somebody and, and, and I love 

1455
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,960
that, you know, so. 
Yeah, gluten free food. 

1456
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,320
So I think it was, I was in, I 
was living out West at the time.

1457
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,040
I was, it was 2011 and I was 
just like feeling lethargic and 

1458
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,480
just, I just didn't feel myself.
And so I went to the doctor and 

1459
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,600
I was telling her, you know, my 
symptoms and she was like, well,

1460
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,520
you might have a, a gluten 
intolerance. 

1461
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,360
And I was like, OK, she's like, 
so let's cut out, you know, 

1462
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,600
breads and all that kind of 
stuff that has gluten in it and 

1463
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,400
then see how you feel. 
So I did and I and then I went 

1464
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,800
back, I don't know, probably did
it for a month or two. 

1465
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,520
And I was like, I feel great. 
I don't have any problems 

1466
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,560
anymore. 
And she was like, well, then 

1467
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,720
there you go. 
Just don't, don't need it 

1468
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,440
anymore. 
And that was 2011. 

1469
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:50,040
And at that point I was 
traveling for work like 

1470
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,960
constantly. 
I was, I was out West, but I was

1471
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,320
literally coming to Florida like
every week. 

1472
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,440
And so I and I moved from 
Florida to Portland. 

1473
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:00,800
And so I never went the whole 
time I lived out West. 

1474
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,320
I still lived on East Coast time
because everybody that I spoke 

1475
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,960
to was still on the East Coast. 
So I would get up at like, you 

1476
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,800
know, two or three in the 
morning and like start my day 

1477
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,120
and everyone thought I was crazy
over there, but I was like, 

1478
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,280
well, hey man, I mean everything
operates over there. 

1479
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,640
That's like, you know where I'm 
at right now. 

1480
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,720
So it's just funny. 
So then traveling, it was really

1481
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,920
difficult to find gluten free 
options. 

1482
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,200
And so the only option I had was
to go to the grocery store and 

1483
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,440
get my own like food. 
And then the company I was 

1484
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:34,400
working for, I was like, I got 
to book a hotel that has a 

1485
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,320
kitchen because I need to be 
able to cook my own food because

1486
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,000
like I can't can't go to these 
restaurants. 

1487
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,280
They don't know what the heck 
I'm talking about. 

1488
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,480
They don't know what gluten free
is. 

1489
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:47,080
And then I don't know when the 
trend started changing, probably

1490
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:54,400
like 2018-2019 people were like,
oh, oh, gluten, OK, gluten free.

1491
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:59,360
And then I would say like, like 
post COVID, it's really changed 

1492
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,720
a lot. 
And then now you know, it used 

1493
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,360
to maybe be like this big in a 
grocery store or like one shelf 

1494
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,880
and it was like, you know, your 
cardboard was not not good 

1495
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,520
options. 
Terrible back in the day. 

1496
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,000
It was really bad. 
We we saw at a natural Foods 

1497
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,640
Market as well now. 
Yeah, and that was cool. 

1498
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,040
That was kind of a cool thing 
for me. 

1499
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,080
We've been around 8 years. 
Then to be invited into a 

1500
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,120
grocery store. 
Yeah. 

1501
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,160
To sell food, to have pick up 
location. 

1502
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,240
Yeah. 
But man, they have so much good 

1503
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,560
food that you can take home and 
buy, you know, make yourself. 

1504
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:32,960
I've recently learned that 
tapioca flour is really good for

1505
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,840
making a Roux for tomato soup if
you're ever you know because a 

1506
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,480
lot of times you get coconut 
flour, almond flour, but tapioca

1507
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:42,120
makes the best Roux if you know 
for a piece of nice. 

1508
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,600
Well, that's good to know. 
Yeah. 

1509
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,040
Yeah. 
Because coconut flour and almond

1510
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,000
flour, coconut flour's dense 
especially that is like, that's 

1511
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,240
a tough one. 
I always keep some tapioca in my

1512
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,440
in my cupboard because there's a
really good recipe for like, I 

1513
01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:58,680
think they're called Brazilian, 
Brazilian cheddar bread. 

1514
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,640
You ever had that I've. 
Never had that. 

1515
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,800
It's. 
Just tapioca flour and basically

1516
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,840
like cheese and eggs. 
I'll have to send you the recipe

1517
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,920
because it's like it's, it's 
really, really good and only a 

1518
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,280
few ingredients, so it's pretty 
easy to make. 

1519
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,320
Let's check that out. 
Yeah, I'll tell you, I've 

1520
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,440
learned a lot owning a kitchen 
that makes gluten free. 

1521
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,480
I have to think 7 days in 
advance, like, OK, so if I make 

1522
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:23,000
something, somebody's going to 
eat it 7 days from now. 

1523
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,960
And that's really hard when 
you're making like breads or 

1524
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,120
something like that, because 
it's really good the 1st two 

1525
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,880
days, three days. 
But then further out, it's not 

1526
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:32,480
great. 
Yeah. 

1527
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,720
But cottage cheese has been like
a huge game changer for me and a

1528
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,960
lot of the things that we've 
been making because it's really 

1529
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,680
good seven days later. 
Yeah. 

1530
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,760
So that's a, that's a. 
That's a interesting thing about

1531
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,120
owning a meal prep company. 
Yeah. 

1532
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,160
Because you're not eating food 
for people to present. 

1533
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,320
Here's your beautiful table. 
Yeah, here it is right now. 

1534
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,040
Eat. 
It's good. 

1535
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,680
Yeah. 
You're like, it's going to be 

1536
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,200
good when you warm it up. 
Yeah. 

1537
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,440
You know how hard it is to learn
to cook a steak? 

1538
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,840
It's going to somebody's going 
to warm up six days later and 

1539
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,320
still be good. 
A. 

1540
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,600
Long time we went through so 
many cuts of meat and so many 

1541
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,960
ways to cut it and, and how 
should we trim it? 

1542
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,120
And, and still we, we fail 
sometimes, you know, but in 

1543
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,080
order to have a good piece of 
meat seven days later, it needs 

1544
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,720
to be a sirloin or a fillet 
because you got to get all the 

1545
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,280
fat off. 
And if you try a rib eye, it's 

1546
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,160
going to be hard. 
And you can only cook it to 

1547
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,840
about 1:30 because if you cook 
it to 1:40 or 1:45 and they put 

1548
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,080
in the microwave, it's going to 
be chewy. 

1549
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:30,040
So a lot of our customers when 
they first get our steak and 

1550
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,880
they cut into it, they're like, 
this is not done. 

1551
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,960
I'm like, go ahead and put in 
the microwave and warm it up and

1552
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,040
then see, then call me back. 
And they're doing, they're like,

1553
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,200
how did you get that steak to be
soft and chewy? 

1554
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,240
I'm like, well, it marinates for
24 hours, then only cook it to 

1555
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,400
130°, you know, and, and there's
like so many different steps 

1556
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,120
that you never even think about 
when you're meal prepping. 

1557
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,200
I think a lot of people fail 
when they meal prep because they

1558
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,400
find one or two recipes and 
that's all they cook ever. 

1559
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,760
And then they're tired of it, 
You know, for smashed meals. 

1560
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,280
We realize that in the first 
month. 

1561
01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,720
Yeah. 
And so we. 

1562
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,880
You guys have a great variety 
all the time. 12 week runnings 

1563
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,920
menu, you're never going to have
the same thing in 12 weeks. 

1564
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,880
And so I think for some people 
that's frustrating because they 

1565
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,720
get one food they really like, 
they want it on the menu again 

1566
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,360
and it's not going to be on 
there for three months. 

1567
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,000
But for everybody else, they're 
like, I love it. 

1568
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,120
I'm never eating the same thing,
you know, week after week. 

1569
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,840
Yeah, and that I think that you 
hit the nail on the head because

1570
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,440
a lot of times when people are 
like, oh, I'm going to start 

1571
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:24,880
meal prepping and they, you 
know, they carve out their 

1572
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,400
sundae or whatever day they do 
and they just like meal prep for

1573
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,320
the week. 
And it's like you just made 

1574
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,440
chicken and rice and broccoli 
for that week and then the next 

1575
01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:34,960
week and you go and do it. 
You might be tired of that 

1576
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,320
chicken, rice and broccoli. 
But that is another thing that 

1577
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,560
you guys do really well is 
changing it up. 

1578
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,880
And I can't imagine how hard it 
is. 

1579
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,400
I mean, as a mom who cooks all 
the time, I, I do understand 

1580
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,240
from that standpoint, 'cause 
it's like, Oh my gosh, trying to

1581
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,200
figure out what these little 
boys eat, 'cause you know, we're

1582
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,080
in that four and five year old 
phase of actually it's really 

1583
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,840
cute. 
Our four year old at this point,

1584
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,640
if it's not, I mean, he's our 
dairy boy. 

1585
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:05,800
If it's not like yogurt or milk,
he doesn't really want it. 

1586
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,240
Like he's just like, he just 
loves dairy. 

1587
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,800
So his thing now because his 
older brother, who's 5 has 

1588
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,000
really started to try more 
things as as he's gotten, you 

1589
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,000
know, he's 5, so he thinks he's 
older now. 

1590
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,080
But our four year old says, I'll
eat it. 

1591
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,720
I'll try it when I'm 5. 
And that's the last night I was 

1592
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,080
like, OK, buddy, you're going to
have a lot of food to try when 

1593
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,280
you turn to five years old later
this year. 

1594
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,320
And he's, and he just kind of 
sat there and he was like, I 

1595
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,360
don't know, in that moment he 
was like, Oh my gosh, what did I

1596
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,520
do to my. 
I'm in trouble. 

1597
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,800
We're just going to set up a 
giant table like this, and we're

1598
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,320
just going to put all this food 
out and be like, here you go, 

1599
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:43,960
you're 5. 
You're 5, Joy. 

1600
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,040
Happy birthday. 
Yeah, have fun. 

1601
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:47,720
No, it's just really cute 
though. 

1602
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,200
But it's always fun to go 
through those little. 

1603
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,960
We're trying to treasure those 
moments. 

1604
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,040
Don't forget with with our 
dudes, it's not always easy in 

1605
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,640
in the moment. 
The it's tough. 

1606
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,720
I mean, they're, we get asked 
all the time if they're twins 

1607
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,440
too, because they're four and 
five. 

1608
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,160
So. 
And sometimes it's easier. 

1609
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,440
I just go Yep. 
Cuz it's yeah, pretty much. 

1610
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:12,160
I mean, they twin boys. 
I don't mean, I don't, I don't 

1611
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,760
think they look that much alike,
but they both look like this 

1612
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:15,480
guy. 
Yeah. 

1613
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,920
Minnie Bryant literally. 
Look, that's right. 

1614
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:18,520
You've met him. 
Yeah. 

1615
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,320
And they look nothing like me. 
I'm like, Are you sure you were 

1616
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,400
part of this? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. 

1617
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,040
But they're, they're funny. 
They they actually really love 

1618
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,360
your protein balls and the 
protein bars. 

1619
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,440
They, they, I mean, and anything
they can grab with their hands, 

1620
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:37,600
like that's, that's their MO 
because they just want to keep 

1621
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:38,720
playing. 
So they just want to eat 

1622
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,760
something quick, fast and get 
some protein in them. 

1623
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,600
And and that's that's it. 
So besides dairy, Levi will eat 

1624
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,600
those too. 
Good, good peanut butter we make

1625
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,480
like, who doesn't like peanut 
butter and chocolate? 

1626
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:50,480
Yeah. 
Who doesn't? 

1627
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,760
And you know, it's got the, 
it's, it's actually really good 

1628
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,560
for you. 
I mean, some people stay away 

1629
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,520
from it because it's got maybe a
little bit high in carbs, but 

1630
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,200
we, it's got a lot of protein. 
We make hundreds of those things

1631
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,640
a week. 
And that I think that's, that's 

1632
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,320
another thing. 
It's hard. 

1633
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,760
Like you have these certain, we 
have certain menu items that 

1634
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,520
stay on there every week. 
And like, I have to remind 

1635
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,800
myself every week, Oh, I need to
make sure somebody's making 

1636
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,240
that. 
Because if you don't, then all 

1637
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,520
of a sudden it's crunch time and
you know, we might make 1000 

1638
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,720
meals that week. 
I cannot forget the other things

1639
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,360
that we have to have every 
single week. 

1640
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,520
And I know that people at 
Walmart, they laugh at me 

1641
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:26,080
because we order our, our oats. 
But every once in a while I'm 

1642
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,160
like, Oh, I wonder if we have 
enough. 

1643
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,520
And so I just grab like random 
things of oatface and oats. 

1644
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,760
And it's like every time I go to
Walmart, I have a thing of and 

1645
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,000
I'm not, I know the people are 
like, I wonder how many oats 

1646
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,040
that man eats? 
And it's just like, I don't want

1647
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,440
to run out. 
Because when you run out as a 

1648
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:40,160
business owner, it's it, it's 
frustrating. 

1649
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,840
Yeah, for sure. 
Well, they just did a study on, 

1650
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,880
I can't remember where. 
I think it might have been 

1651
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,800
Germany. 
They had a bunch of people who 

1652
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,560
did nothing but oatmeal for two 
days a week. 

1653
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,640
I think for every single meal, 
they had 10 ounces of oatmeal. 

1654
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,760
And they only had fruit, and I 
think it was just fruits and 

1655
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:03,000
vegetables in the oatmeal. 
And it literally helped every 

1656
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,080
single one that did that study, 
it lowered their cholesterol. 

1657
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,800
They lost an average of £5 in 
that week just by doing 2 days 

1658
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,120
or some. 
I'll try and find it. 

1659
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,240
I'll send it to you. 
It's like, it was so weird. 

1660
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,240
Like I was reading it to Brian 
the other day and I was like, Oh

1661
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,640
my gosh. 
Because we love oatmeal. 

1662
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,680
Yeah. 
And we'll eat it all the time. 

1663
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,320
And our oldest loves it too. 
He calls it OPA Meal. 

1664
01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:25,600
OPA Meal, which we think that's 
a better name. 

1665
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,640
So we call it OPA meal. 
Makes me. 

1666
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:32,840
Think. 
Willy, Willy Wonka, Oompa 

1667
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,880
Loompa. 
And so, yeah, that was a, a 

1668
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,400
crazy study. 
I think carbs and oatmeal too 

1669
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,920
have gotten a bad rap. 
And we've always liked oatmeal 

1670
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:45,680
because we're we lift weights 
and like a lot of people, you 

1671
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,000
know, in the weightlifting 
community, not like we're like, 

1672
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,480
we're not like power lifters, 
but oatmeal is a, an important 

1673
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:54,880
staple just because it, it 
actually is good carbs for you. 

1674
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,040
It fuels your muscles, it helps 
you, sustains you for longer. 

1675
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,560
And I don't. 
I mean carbs. 

1676
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,920
There's always something on the 
chopping block. 

1677
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,360
Always. 
I mean, what the 70s was eggs? 

1678
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,600
Was cholesterol eggs? 
Cholesterol, yeah. 9 I don't 

1679
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,000
remember what the 80s was, but 
then the 90s was fat. 

1680
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,520
Fat 100%. 
Yeah, that was crazy. 

1681
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,920
I don't. 
What would the 2000s be? 

1682
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:18,840
I don't have a clue. 
Yeah, I don't. 

1683
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:19,720
I don't know. 
Oh man. 

1684
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,040
I don't. 
Know I think fat we're still 

1685
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:27,920
operating in the the fat zone of
fat free even the fat doesn't 

1686
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,800
make you fat fat super 
important. 

1687
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,000
I think people have started 
realizing the importance of 

1688
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,000
their fats and. 
The brain power. 

1689
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I don't even know. 

1690
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,280
I'd have to think of because 
there's always a trend like for 

1691
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,200
some 10 years there's something 
that's bad for you and then you 

1692
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,360
find out later that it's it's. 
It's good, yeah. 

1693
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,600
We, we put our macro nutritional
information on everything we 

1694
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,200
cook. 
And it's interesting to me 

1695
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,880
because I'll get these phone 
calls and, you know, I, I treat 

1696
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,200
every customer like they're my 
only own customer, you know, And

1697
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,360
so these phone calls and 
they're, they're asking specific

1698
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,040
questions and it takes me 
normally a couple minutes to 

1699
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,760
realize what diet they're trying
to like, talk about, but not 

1700
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,560
talk about it, you know, and 
then I'll try to steer them, you

1701
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,360
know, OK, well, if that's what 
you're trying to do, you know, 

1702
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,760
that's why we have sides. 
You know, we have every meat you

1703
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,440
can think of. 
We have all these side 

1704
01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:18,440
vegetables. 
This is where you want to go. 

1705
01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:20,720
And then somebody else's, you 
know, I need more fiber. 

1706
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,840
So most of our stuff has how 
much fibers in it, you know, and

1707
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:27,680
it's interesting because whether
it's the Mediterranean diet or 

1708
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:32,120
the keto diet or the, OR the 
paleotithic diet or the low 

1709
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,800
carb, no carb or whatever, it is
like we pretty much can serve 

1710
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,200
any diet out there basically 
because we have so many 

1711
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,720
different options. 
But we don't want to discourage 

1712
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,720
anybody from trying something 
for themselves because if you're

1713
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,120
at least trying something for 
yourself, you're not staying who

1714
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,000
you used to be. 
So often in life, we become 

1715
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,760
complacent, whether it's through
reading our Bible, through, 

1716
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,320
through, through our maybe it's 
through our appearance or 

1717
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,200
through our health or through 
our food or in our 

1718
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,840
relationships, like we become 
complacent. 

1719
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,960
And so in every aspect of our 
body, our life, we should 

1720
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,800
constantly be trying something 
new to help us to become who we 

1721
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,480
think God wants us to. 
Yeah, you know, and, and I never

1722
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:17,960
want to discourage somebody for 
trying. 

1723
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,560
I can't always fulfill 
everything. 

1724
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,520
Yeah. 
Recently we had a customer who 

1725
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,680
had bariatric surgery. 
And so she said, can you do 

1726
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,960
something for me? 
And I was like, honestly, I have

1727
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,280
no idea what that means. 
Yeah, I know you had your 

1728
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,400
stomach cut. 
I I'm going to have to do some 

1729
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,000
research. 
And so I was at a basketball 

1730
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,520
game and I went to ChatGPT and I
said, I need you to tell me 

1731
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,080
everything you know about 
bariatric surgery and how what 

1732
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,200
they have to eat. 
And all of a sudden I just 

1733
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,120
realized they need smaller 
portions in low carb. 

1734
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,840
That's it. 
I'm like, that's no, that's a no

1735
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,880
brainer. 
So I just made-up 12 menu items 

1736
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,400
that are low, are smaller 
portions in low carb. 

1737
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,440
I try to take different meats 
and you know, I realize that 

1738
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,480
some of them can't eat chicken, 
some of them can't eat beef. 

1739
01:23:01,480 --> 01:23:03,360
And so I can kind of have a 
mixture of that and it's got to 

1740
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,640
be smaller, you know, cut 
smaller because their stomachs 

1741
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,240
are so small. 
And the first we could put it on

1742
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,080
the menu, we sold, you know, 
10/15/20 and next week you sold 

1743
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,080
150 of these items. 
And I realized that a lot of 

1744
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,440
people are scared of the word 
bariatric because they, they 

1745
01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:20,440
associate that with something 
wrong with their stomach. 

1746
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,320
And so I had to put a slash low 
carb, you know, so people can 

1747
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,640
understand they were actually 
just smaller portions. 

1748
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,760
But I think we all in our life, 
we read something and we, we 

1749
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,960
don't want to be associated with
that word or we don't want to. 

1750
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,360
We, we, maybe there's a stigma 
to bariatric surgery, but why 

1751
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,840
wouldn't you encourage somebody 
to get healthier? 

1752
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,640
You know, and it might take a 
surgery, it might be going to 

1753
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,960
join the gym, you know, it might
become leaving an environment 

1754
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,280
but going to a different 
environment. 

1755
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,240
But whatever it takes like a 
smash meals when it comes to 

1756
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,400
food, we want to be there for 
you. 

1757
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,200
You know, whether it's your 
wedding, you know, somebody's 

1758
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,680
funeral, meal prep, catering, 
the whole 9 yards. 

1759
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:06,200
Like we want to be a part of it.
It, it's funny, I, I did in this

1760
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:10,000
last year, I had multiple 
weddings that I was the pastor 

1761
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,760
of and also the caterer. 
And I had some funerals that I 

1762
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,080
was the pastor of and the 
caterer, you know, and, and it's

1763
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,120
watching those two kind of 
combined. 

1764
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:24,320
And I was always kind of shot 
away from it until until 

1765
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:29,440
Hurricane Helene, I, I rarely 
ever talked about being a pastor

1766
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,560
while talking about smash meals,
and I rarely ever talked about 

1767
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,880
smash meals while being a 
pastor. 

1768
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,320
Did you just want to keep them 
separate? 

1769
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,840
I wanted to keep them separate 
because it was uncomfortable for

1770
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,520
me. 
I didn't want to exclude 

1771
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,800
anybody. 
I didn't want anybody to feel 

1772
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,000
like I was whatever it was. 
Like I didn't want anybody in my

1773
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,920
church to ever feel like they 
had to buy my food. 

1774
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,920
Like, I never want that. 
And I never wanted anybody who 

1775
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,920
bought my food to feel like I 
was forcing them to come to 

1776
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,720
church. 
And then Hurricane Helene hit 

1777
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,920
and I was like, forget it. 
I'm just going to tell everybody

1778
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,480
everything I'm doing and I'm 
going to figure out how to join 

1779
01:25:01,480 --> 01:25:03,440
them together. 
And that was a huge moment of 

1780
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:06,720
relief for me that you know 
what, I can be proud of who I, 

1781
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:11,200
who God has created me to be. 
And, and, and that was a big 

1782
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:16,040
moment and to, to just accept 
where I am in my life. 

1783
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,480
You know, I've been a pastor 
since I was 18. 

1784
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,640
I've been a meal prep owner for 
eight years, right? 

1785
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,480
So, so at the end of the day, I 
can be both and I can put those 

1786
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:30,200
together just like you can be a 
podcast person and you can own 

1787
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,040
rental property, you know, and 
you can help clients. 

1788
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:34,720
They don't have to listen to 
your podcast. 

1789
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,640
They don't have to stay at your,
your places that you you rent, 

1790
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,480
but they can do both. 
And I think many times for me 

1791
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:44,240
anyway, I feel like I need to 
separate different parts of my 

1792
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,440
life. 
And then I look back and I 

1793
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:49,040
realized that was a mistake. 
Yeah. 

1794
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:55,120
Why don't we blend our lives, 
you know, and try to realize 

1795
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,480
that we are, we have different 
parts of our who we are, you 

1796
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:00,080
know? 
I think that's a defense 

1797
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,160
mechanism. 
When we do that, when we try to 

1798
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,600
compartmentalize things is in 
case it does something doesn't 

1799
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,000
work out, then it's small and we
don't really have to tell 

1800
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,880
anybody about it because we just
kind of kept it over here, you 

1801
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,560
know? 
And I think that we do that a 

1802
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,800
lot with things in our lives. 
And so I think that just letting

1803
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:25,000
it all just tell people go for 
it, like it's, it doesn't, it 

1804
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,000
doesn't hurt because then there 
it, it, there's some 

1805
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,360
accountability too. 
When you do that, when you shed 

1806
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,560
some light on it and you open it
up, it's kind of like, OK, I'm 

1807
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,960
going to try and do this and 
here we go. 

1808
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,000
Let's see how it works. 
And then it's and it just, I 

1809
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,640
think it helps, you know? 
So I'm with you. 

1810
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,080
I hear, I hear you. 
Yeah, It's it's funny because 

1811
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,400
people have said so wait. 
You know, if I've talked to them

1812
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,960
about being in the podcast, 
they're like, but wait a minute,

1813
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:52,800
Don't you guys do like rentals, 
like corporate corporate 

1814
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,880
rentals? 
So you guys just do fully 

1815
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,800
furnished rentals. 
And I'm like, yes, we do, but we

1816
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,880
also do photo video and we do 
all of our own photo video for 

1817
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,840
our business. 
So we actually have two 

1818
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,240
businesses. 
And then I, but it's like, 

1819
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,440
listen, that's not what the 
podcast is going to be about. 

1820
01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:13,720
We just want to for people to 
come on and share their story 

1821
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,160
and who they are and what their 
business or whatever, whatever 

1822
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:18,720
they want to share and you're 
probably going to on. 

1823
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,120
The platform start a jacket 
company right with some yeah you

1824
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,120
know it's so cold here you know 
like like we will also sell you 

1825
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,520
thermal underwear when you come 
to our packet I. 

1826
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,920
Feel like it hasn't warmed up in
here at all if. 

1827
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,920
I ever come back, I'm going to 
have to like call you the day 

1828
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,360
before. 
Hey I need to know what to wear.

1829
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:36,480
Like, yeah, yeah, seriously. 
Should have wore some. 

1830
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,520
Thermal wear. 
Do we have a Do we have blankets

1831
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,920
in the car? 
Do we have blankets in the car? 

1832
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,680
Are you cold, too? 
I asked Cody if there was 

1833
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,080
another thermostat. 
Oh, OK. 

1834
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,400
Oh my gosh. 
Well, we have blankets in the 

1835
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,840
car. 
So you want your your next 

1836
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,280
person, you need just like a 
stack of blankets right here and

1837
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,160
be like, OK, hey, we got you. 
Yeah, just start layering. 

1838
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,880
We need a blanket sponsor. 
That's what do we need next? 

1839
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,160
My pill. 
What was that? 

1840
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,760
What was that, Snuggie? 
You can put everybody in like 

1841
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,440
Snuggies and then they could sit
here. 

1842
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,000
Yeah, I actually, I still have a
Snuggie. 

1843
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,400
Oh. 
I'm I'm jealous. 

1844
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,320
It's a rainbow brite, Snuggie. 
You're you're winning. 

1845
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:15,320
It's awesome because, I mean, 
you know, you're a child of the 

1846
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:16,600
80s as well. 
Yeah. 

1847
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,000
Rainbow Brite, man. 
I mean care, brothers. 

1848
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,160
For life, Gosh. 
Care Bears, Well, I had I had 

1849
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,360
two older brothers and so I had 
a pretty good mix of like 

1850
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:29,840
Rainbow Brite Care Bears, but 
then also like Ninja Turtles and

1851
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,920
like GI Joe and like 
Transformers. 

1852
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,800
And then, you know, so like I 
had that really good balance of 

1853
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,520
the girls half. 
And two older sisters. 

1854
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,320
Oh yeah. 
So I played Barbies, you know. 

1855
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,320
Yeah, yeah. 
They had a Barbie car. 

1856
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,560
Oh, the Barbie car and. 
We had those little Barbie 

1857
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,280
houses that we. 
Oh wow. 

1858
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,280
Yeah, that was, that was fun. 
I remember when they got bunk 

1859
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,320
beds. 
I was so excited, you know, And 

1860
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,560
then we, we got the trampoline, 
you know? 

1861
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,520
Wait, Barbie had a trampoline? 
No, no, no. 

1862
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,760
I'm just telling you, like, my 
things my sister's got. 

1863
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:02,400
Oh, and I was so excited about, 
you know, like, we had a 

1864
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,960
trampoline and. 
Yeah, and, you know, you know 

1865
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,920
how dangerous those things were 
when they first came out. 

1866
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,240
Like, like, here you go. 
Good luck. 

1867
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:13,120
You know we. 
Oh, I mean, who hasn't 

1868
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,080
accidentally jumped off a 
trampoline? 

1869
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,640
And who hasn't had one leg go 
through the springs? 

1870
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,080
Yeah. 
And the other stay on the top. 

1871
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:20,080
Like it? 
For sure. 

1872
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,880
We've all done that, a lot of 
injuries on the trampolines, but

1873
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,120
now there's Nets now, now 
there's like so many safety 

1874
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,120
measures for everything. 
I don't know if we've gone in a 

1875
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:35,320
good direction with that or like
because there's as a kid, you 

1876
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,160
gotta. 
You gotta break something. 

1877
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,880
Yeah, you gotta live a little 
bit. 

1878
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,480
And accidentally, although I'm 
saying that as a mom and I like 

1879
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,560
freak out over things. 
Like I try though it's hard. 

1880
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,880
It's hard as the mom of boys 
because I know that they I know 

1881
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,800
they got to wrestle. 
I know they have to do like some

1882
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,840
of those boy things that just 
like whatever. 

1883
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,160
And so I have to be like, OK, 
I'm a girl. 

1884
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,280
I didn't do some of that. 
And LeBron would be like, it's 

1885
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,720
totally normal. 
And I'm like, OK, all right, 

1886
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,080
I'll just try and like look away
or do something else. 

1887
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,640
But it's funny. 
We we always wanted boys too. 

1888
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,000
You never, I mean, whatever God 
was going to give us, we were 

1889
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,240
going to have fun with anyways, 
but we were just like, man, we 

1890
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:18,400
just feel like we're supposed to
have boys and we got married 

1891
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,640
later in life. 
So we had our boys a little bit 

1892
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,840
later in life too. 
And so it's it's it's weird 

1893
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:29,720
because having kids is not and 
it, it's harder as AI don't want

1894
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,760
to call myself middle-aged, but 
I mean, you know, it's harder as

1895
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,840
somebody because I got pregnant 
and I had the boys 39 and 40. 

1896
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,960
Oh, wow. 
And so yeah, yeah. 

1897
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,560
So like, yeah, wow, yeah. 
So I was born in 81, and we had 

1898
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,000
them in 2010, you know, and, 
yeah. 

1899
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:45,760
And I felt like I was old then, 
you know? 

1900
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,400
I was 2526, Yeah. 
And you know. 

1901
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:50,840
Wow. 
Yeah. 

1902
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,720
So that's us. 
Welcome to our life. 

1903
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,200
Welcome. 
So it's funny when you talk 

1904
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,920
about these moments with your 
kids, I'm just like, oh, man, 

1905
01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:01,680
I'm excited about those moments.
And then we always have to like,

1906
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,040
we literally will be like, OK, 
when they're 20, we're going to 

1907
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:08,920
be how old just because we're 
like, God, please help us be 

1908
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,800
here long enough to like see 
some of these things or, you 

1909
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,200
know, but it's, it's just funny.
But that's just where we're at 

1910
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,840
with with life. 
It's. 

1911
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,960
I tell you what, if you ever 
have me back, I would love to, 

1912
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,080
like, sit around and just like, 
talk about, like stories from 

1913
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,320
early on in my ministry. 
And like, there's so many times 

1914
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:27,680
people are like, oh, did you 
write that down? 

1915
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:28,880
And I'm like, no, I got to give 
memory. 

1916
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,720
Yeah. 
But sitting here today is like 

1917
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,840
been fun thinking about like 
things that happened to me early

1918
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,080
on in my ministry. 
And you know, I would love to to

1919
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,640
hear about you too. 
Like I want to hear like what? 

1920
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,400
You want me to cry more? 
Is that is that? 

1921
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,360
I actually want that. 
I want Beth to be sitting here 

1922
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,240
and like jotting things down. 
Oh, she'll watch this and be 

1923
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,040
like the you need. 
I know what you need. 

1924
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,800
Yeah, but I would love to like, 
I want to know more about that 

1925
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,120
Lady, like. 
Yeah, Miss Laura. 

1926
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,200
Miss Laura? 
Like what? 

1927
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:55,880
Happened. 
She passed away a few years ago,

1928
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,440
so I only lived with her one 
year. 

1929
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:02,960
It was just my senior year. 
So like my family moved down to 

1930
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,160
Florida and then I stayed and 
rented a room from her my senior

1931
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:11,640
year of high school. 
And it was so weird because so I

1932
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:18,080
I in Minnesota, I came from a 
giant, well known, awesome high 

1933
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,360
school. 
And then I went to little tiny 

1934
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,720
nowhere, Connecticut and my 
graduating class had like 84 

1935
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,280
kids and I was like, what is 
this? 

1936
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,040
This is crazy. 
But I like specifically remember

1937
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,840
the first day of school. 
I, I was a cheerleader in high 

1938
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,680
school, which I know sounds 
funny to say, but I, I never, I 

1939
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,360
always loved to do dance and 
gymnastics and I didn't get the 

1940
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:44,400
chance to do those. 
Like I, it wasn't, I did extra 

1941
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,400
school curriculars. 
Those are those, what I, what I 

1942
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,360
could do when I was growing up 
and cheerleading was the closest

1943
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,560
to gymnastics and dance that I 
could get. 

1944
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,880
So I was like, all right, I'm 
thinking, do some cheerleading. 

1945
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,800
I'll have some fun. 
So the first day of school, 

1946
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,680
junior year, we had a, a game 
and I had to wear my uniform and

1947
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:05,840
I was like, I'm going to get 
freaking typecasted as like this

1948
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,680
cheerleader. 
I don't know any of these kids. 

1949
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,960
Great, great. 
You know, and I just remember 

1950
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,520
walking and standing at the 
school steps and I was like, I 

1951
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,920
don't know anybody in this 
building right now and I'm about

1952
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,560
to walk in as a junior. 
All right, here it goes. 

1953
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,320
And so I just that I just did 
it. 

1954
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,560
I walked in and and so junior 
year was weird. 

1955
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,880
And then at the end of junior 
year, my parents were like, all 

1956
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,360
right, we weren't military, but 
my dad took a a job opportunity 

1957
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,000
in Florida. 
They're like, we're moving to 

1958
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,640
Florida now. 
And that's when God was like, 

1959
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,400
I'm not done with you here yet. 
And I was like. 

1960
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,840
Why? 
You know, and then Laura, who is

1961
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,760
our next door neighbor, like out
of the kindness of her heart, 

1962
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,040
you know, she's in her 70s. 
What she she's going to have 

1963
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,360
like a 17 year old move in with 
her. 

1964
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:55,080
Like God bless her for that. 
And so that's it. 

1965
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,680
I mean, she and you know, this 
is a funny story. 

1966
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:04,840
She wasn't the best cook and one
of my friend Murr, she's going 

1967
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:10,040
to watch this one time she came 
over and Laura's particular 

1968
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,240
terrible dish was macaroni and 
cheese. 

1969
01:34:13,480 --> 01:34:17,720
She just did macaroni and then 
she took like any kind of cheese

1970
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,000
that was in the fridge and 
melted it and threw it over the 

1971
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,800
top. 
So it didn't ever, it was like 

1972
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:24,520
coagulated. 
It was it was gross. 

1973
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,840
And so one time my friend Mer 
came over for supper and I was 

1974
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,200
like, Hey, Laura, can you what 
are you making? 

1975
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:30,600
And she was like macaroni and 
cheese. 

1976
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,560
And I was like, oh, gosh. 
So we had choked it down. 

1977
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,800
And I was like, hey, Martin 
loved it so much. 

1978
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,920
She wants more. 
And she looked at me and she was

1979
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:43,440
like, you know, like, I hate you
because she's in her 70s. 

1980
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:44,840
She's not going to like not eat 
it. 

1981
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,480
She just fell so badly. 
But anyways, she was just such a

1982
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:51,240
wonderful lady. 
And she had just a hard after 

1983
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,840
God, she just loved helping 
people that were sick and dying.

1984
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,840
You know, some of these, most of
these people were younger than 

1985
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,600
she is that she was. 
And so then I lived here for 

1986
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,240
that senior year of high school 
and then I graduated and then I 

1987
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:08,600
joined my family in Florida and,
you know, kept in touch with 

1988
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,920
Laura over the years a little 
bit after that. 

1989
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,880
Yep, Yep. 
And Brian, and those are like, 

1990
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,240
you know, just like my 2 best 
friends ever when I met them 

1991
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:19,320
both happened to meet them both 
in Connecticut. 

1992
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,720
So that's just, that's, that's 
why like, I was like, I'm not 

1993
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,840
done with you yet. 
And it's so funny because Brian 

1994
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,080
and I, you know, we were best 
friends in high school and I, if

1995
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,600
I was ever having a bad day, I'd
be like, where's Brian? 

1996
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,960
I just need a hug from Brian. 
And so, like, I just needed a 

1997
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,480
hug from him. 
He just put a heater behind you.

1998
01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:38,960
I. 
Was like, oh, it feels so good. 

1999
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,160
Yeah. 
Where'd that come from? 

2000
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,040
Like I'm like here. 
We go, yeah. 

2001
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,640
And so it's just really funny 
that that at that moment, God 

2002
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:50,720
was probably like, you kids, you
don't even, you don't even get 

2003
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,480
what's going to happen in like 
20 years. 

2004
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:56,120
But you know, then we had to 
make some of the mistakes of our

2005
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,680
20s. 
Like I was also married in my 

2006
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,280
20s and I got divorced and I was
a business owner also. 

2007
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,920
So when you said that I could 
really resonate with you because

2008
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:09,520
I had I had a business with my 
ex-husband, but it was really my

2009
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,760
business because it was a hair 
salon and tattoo parlor. 

2010
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,480
And that was what I was trained 
in. 

2011
01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:16,880
I was, you know, I did hair 
forever. 

2012
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:23,320
And so that was weird to figure 
out about closing the doors or 

2013
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,920
what I wanted to do and got it 
opened up an opportunity for a 

2014
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:28,760
job on the West Coast. 
That's why I moved. 

2015
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,200
And so I'd had my salon for 
three years. 

2016
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:35,800
Then I went through the divorce 
and I was like, I, I, I'm, I'm 

2017
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,360
done. 
I got to get out of Florida for 

2018
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:38,960
a little bit. 
And so that's when God took me 

2019
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:44,640
to the West Coast and take, I 
needed time to heal from that 

2020
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,080
too, because it was not, it was,
it was not great, but it made me

2021
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,320
who I was today. 
And so that's, it's just, it's, 

2022
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:54,240
it's really interesting those 
the steps and where we go and, 

2023
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,520
and what we do in our 20s. 
And then Brian and I 

2024
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,800
reconnected, Gosh, when we were 
like our mid 30s, then we 

2025
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,320
started, I mean, we, we'd stayed
in touch over the years and you 

2026
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:07,160
know, social media, Myspace had 
started in the early 2000s, you 

2027
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:08,280
know. 
Probably wasn't in your top 

2028
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,720
five, but you know. 
Top. 

2029
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Well, it got to top 8.8, right? 
Remember, you could have music 

2030
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,480
on there. 
You have like a theme song. 

2031
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,560
Did you have there was a 
headline you could change that 

2032
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,680
to your top eight. 
Yeah, that was like it was one 

2033
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,000
of the best ones. 
You talk about best friends and 

2034
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,360
like Jennifer Mills is one of my
best friends growing up. 

2035
01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:35,400
And I remember I bought a book 
called HTML for Dummies and I 

2036
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,120
wanted to write web pages. 
OK, So I knew she liked 

2037
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:40,920
butterflies. 
Like we're just like buddies, 

2038
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,800
right? 
And still the buddies to this 

2039
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,200
day. 
Like I love her husband to 

2040
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,320
death. 
He calls me all the time. 

2041
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:51,080
But I I wrote code to make a web
page with butterflies flying 

2042
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,880
across. 
That was my first ever web page.

2043
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,000
I wrote, I made and. 
Still. 

2044
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,080
Wait, is it still active? 
Can we find it? 

2045
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:58,400
Oh. 
Gosh almighty, wouldn't that be 

2046
01:37:58,400 --> 01:37:58,880
amazing? 
I. 

2047
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,080
Have that would be hilarious. 
But I mean, we're talking about 

2048
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,040
dial up. 
That's that's when I was making 

2049
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:04,680
this thing. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2050
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:06,800
But I remember, like, sending it
to her. 

2051
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:07,800
I was like, I made you 
something. 

2052
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:11,320
And she's like, oh, that's cool.
And I'm like, I worked hours 

2053
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,880
trying to figure out how to code
to make butterflies fly across 

2054
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,600
the screen, you know? 
And then I had another buddy 

2055
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,120
named Ricky. 
And Ricky moved from Michigan to

2056
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:21,440
Tennessee in the 5th grade. 
And it's his first day of 

2057
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:23,000
school. 
I don't know him. 

2058
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,520
He doesn't know me. 
And I was terrible back then. 

2059
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,120
I was what? 
Do you mean you were terrible? 

2060
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,480
I was an awful kid. 
I always in trouble, didn't 

2061
01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:33,240
listen to parents. 
Like I was not a good kid. 

2062
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,120
And first day of school, I 
didn't bring anything that my 

2063
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,280
mother packed me. 
And so I saw this random kid the

2064
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,720
whole head. 
And I was like, man, you got a 

2065
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,360
pencil? 
He like a pencil. 

2066
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:44,560
I like, yeah, I didn't bring any
pencils. 

2067
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,440
He's like, it's the first day of
school, how do you not have any 

2068
01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:47,480
pencils? 
And I was like, I don't know. 

2069
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,760
So he gives me a pencil. 
And then I was like, hey, where 

2070
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,040
you going after school? 
And he tells me, like, I'll walk

2071
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:53,800
with you. 
And he's like, you're just going

2072
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,560
to walk with me. 
So we walked home, you know, and

2073
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:57,840
he's like, you can't come to my 
house. 

2074
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,560
And I was like, OK, so I walked 
to his house, knocked on the 

2075
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:01,840
door. 
You know, his dad comes to the 

2076
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,560
door. 
He looks looks at me. 

2077
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,120
And I was like, is Ricky here? 
And he just slams the door. 

2078
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,120
And I hear, hey, Rick, some fat 
kids out here to talk to you. 

2079
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:11,960
That was my introduction to 
their family. 

2080
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,040
Yeah. 
And so we've been great friends 

2081
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,000
for a long time. 
But you know, you think about 

2082
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,360
those friendships that form from
random connections of, you know,

2083
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,440
of moving, you know, and that's 
how Ricky was. 

2084
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:24,480
And Matt, on the other hand, we 
grew up together. 

2085
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:25,560
We were born in the same 
hospital. 

2086
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,000
His dad was the guy that 
delivered me. 

2087
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,640
He was my, he was my doctor my 
entire life until I was forced 

2088
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:36,240
to get another doctor because he
retired, you know, I mean, and, 

2089
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,560
and, and, you know, you think 
about that like we were born in 

2090
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:39,840
the same hospital. 
His dad was my doctor. 

2091
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,800
We became buddies. 
And in fact, every time I'm 

2092
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,720
around his dad, like I'm like, 
I'm still mad at you. 

2093
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,240
And I'm like, you cut off too 
much when you circumcise me. 

2094
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,120
And he just laughs. 
I mean, yeah, it's 1981. 

2095
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,320
We still laugh at that. 
Yeah. 

2096
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,200
And so Matt and I became great 
buddies, and then we traveled 

2097
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,160
the country together. 
And so I tell you a funny story 

2098
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,720
about eating. 
Where does he live now? 

2099
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,680
He lives in Chattanooga. 
Oh, wait, no, oh, wait. 

2100
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,040
What's Matt? 
And then Rick? 

2101
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:03,680
Ricky. 
Yeah. 

2102
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,240
Oh, where does? 
Ricky live, he lives close to my

2103
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,240
parents house. 
In fact, he sees my parents and 

2104
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,040
my family more than I do. 
OK, All right, He. 

2105
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,240
He's all the time of my parents.
I mean, he sends them a Mother's

2106
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,040
Day and Father's Day cards, you 
know, like that kind of 

2107
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:17,160
relationship. 
And so, so I'm, we're travelling

2108
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:18,840
the country going back to when I
was 18. 

2109
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,480
And this lady I knew growing up 
who would make my family these 

2110
01:40:23,480 --> 01:40:27,520
cakes and he's like cheese bread
and like phenomenal food. 

2111
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,840
She moved to Washington State. 
And so we're like travelling the

2112
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,760
country and we didn't eat at any
restaurants. 

2113
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,520
We cooked, we bought groceries 
and we cooked outside of our 

2114
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,440
truck every single night. 
Like, and I was like, so we're 

2115
01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:40,160
like in Canada. 
And I was like, you know what, 

2116
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,760
I'm going to call a mother and 
see where this lady lives in 

2117
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,200
Washington state. 
I mean, we can stop by her. 

2118
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,440
She's like this phenomenal cook.
And so like we're looking 

2119
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:51,080
forward to a home cooked meal. 
So I made arrangements. 

2120
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,080
We're going to go see her. 
She lived next to an Indian 

2121
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,200
Reservation. 
Like I don't. 

2122
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:54,800
Oh. 
Wow. 

2123
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,200
So we travel and of course we 
didn't care where we went. 

2124
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,400
We get to this lady's house OK, 
and literally we realized she 

2125
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,760
lives on an Indian Reservation. 
Like don't don't know how she 

2126
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,880
got there. 
I still couldn't figure out what

2127
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,160
the story was if I told you 
again. 

2128
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,360
So we get there and like I'm 
thinking she knows we're coming.

2129
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,320
She's going to cook this 
phenomenal food. 

2130
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,400
So it's about dinner time and 
she's like, boys, I got y'all 

2131
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,320
some good dinner tonight. 
And so we sit down at the table.

2132
01:41:25,480 --> 01:41:32,320
She brings this bowl of water. 
It's been bowling with these red

2133
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,200
dot Wiener dogs like. 
Oh my gosh. 

2134
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,080
And. 
They're like the most nastiest 

2135
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,160
hot dog you've ever imagined in 
your life. 

2136
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,080
And now Matt doesn't eat hot 
dogs. 

2137
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,800
He doesn't eat mayonnaise. 
He doesn't eat ranch dressing, 

2138
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:47,160
OK? 
He doesn't eat hot dogs. 

2139
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:53,040
And he just looks at me and. 
He did he think you planned it? 

2140
01:41:53,480 --> 01:41:56,280
I don't know what he thought. 
Oh my God. 

2141
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,440
And then she's like, tonight, 
boys, for entertainment. 

2142
01:41:58,440 --> 01:42:00,400
We're going to go watch them 
sell fireworks. 

2143
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,000
Like, we literally just drove 
across the country and we did 

2144
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:05,720
not want to go watch somebody 
sell fireworks. 

2145
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,360
Yeah. 
Wait, did you eat the food? 

2146
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,240
Well, I did. 
I don't know what Matt did. 

2147
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:14,200
Yeah, he drank the water. 
I'm sure he drank the water. 

2148
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,760
But, you know, at one point, 
like, we left that house and 

2149
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,960
he's like, you, punk, you know, 
here you've been talking about 

2150
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:28,440
this lady's food for hours and 
weeks, and you served me the 

2151
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:32,200
giant red hot dog. 
And he still talks about that, 

2152
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,000
you know, And I'm sure if you 
called your friend today, you'd 

2153
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,480
be like, so won't eat macaroni. 
Yeah. 

2154
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:37,920
Oh, yeah. 
We still joke about it. 

2155
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,840
We still joke about the macaroni
for sure. 

2156
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,520
And she's, you know, I don't 
know if she's upset at me still 

2157
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,480
to this day about that. 
I mean, I wouldn't blame her. 

2158
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,800
Yeah, Matt still Matt. 
He, he'll bring it up. 

2159
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,920
We go fishing every year 
together and we we spend a week 

2160
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,000
in the Boundary Waters with our 
with our sons and friends. 

2161
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,960
I'm the cook obviously, and 
everything I cook he gives me a 

2162
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,320
hard time about every single. 
Thing please tell me one of 

2163
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,280
these times you've brought 
ridiculous hot dogs. 

2164
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,360
You know what? 
I've never. 

2165
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:06,960
I never have. 
I'm this year I'm bringing big, 

2166
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,520
big hot dogs. 
See where you can find them. 

2167
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,160
Get something absurd and like. 
Sniggle. 

2168
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,040
Been there. 
Yeah, keep it a secret and then 

2169
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,320
get a bowl of water, recreate 
it. 

2170
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,360
Yeah. 
And then, you know, that'd be 

2171
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:19,040
great. 
Yeah. 

2172
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:20,680
He'd probably be like. 
You Dang it. 

2173
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, that's hilarious. 

2174
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:27,120
Like, I like, he hate he, he, 
he, he finds these little things

2175
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,880
to pick on me about. 
And like, one of them's my, my 

2176
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,840
Bacon's never flat enough. 
And you know, I'm cooking in the

2177
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,640
woods. 
Like, there's no electricity, 

2178
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,640
there's no running water, 
there's nothing. 

2179
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,960
There's no cell phones. 
We're 10 miles from everything. 

2180
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,720
If you haven't been to the 
Boundary Water Canoe Area, 

2181
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,360
highly recommend it. 
It's the like the most peaceful 

2182
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,760
place in the world and you have 
nothing but out there. 

2183
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,000
He'll still complain about the 
bacon, you know, And it's not 

2184
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:55,120
it's, it's too, it's too curly. 
Oh man, it's. 

2185
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:56,720
Like a pig's tail. 
Literally. 

2186
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,960
He can't handle it. 
No, it's funny. 

2187
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,200
I want to commend you on sitting
still for this long, by the way.

2188
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:06,240
Oh, thank you. 
Yeah. 

2189
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,000
Because you said this morning, 
you said that this almost gave 

2190
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,280
you anxiety because you don't 
like to sit, you're always 

2191
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,400
moving. 
So from the second your eyes 

2192
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,000
wake up and you take that little
time to get your body moving, do

2193
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:20,560
you do any stretches to help 
with some of the pain? 

2194
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,600
No, I just, you have to stand on
it and just pop just like, yeah,

2195
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:27,000
So evidently when I was in high 
school, I broke my ankle playing

2196
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:28,560
football. 
I thought I sprained it 

2197
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,880
evidently and broke it. 
And so in 2005, I graduated high

2198
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,320
school 99, 2005. 
My doctor says to my parents 

2199
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,360
hated he break his ankle. 
They're like, no, they're like 

2200
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:38,960
he's got a hole in his ankle. 
Yes, he broke it. 

2201
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,120
That's what they told they like 
they never broke it. 

2202
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:43,160
Found out I broke it. 
I just lost sprained it. 

2203
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,400
But so and then when it was re 
entered the motorcycle wreck 

2204
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,080
like there's still a hole in my 
ankle and so I have to break it 

2205
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,000
loose. 
But no, I just get up and go. 

2206
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,880
I mean, there's no there's, you 
just got to get up and go. 

2207
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:57,320
And so are you constantly moving
from when you wake up to when 

2208
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,000
you go to bed. 
Yeah, if I sit down and go to 

2209
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,480
sleep, yeah, it's. 
You didn't do that here though. 

2210
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:07,200
Yeah, well, no, you let me talk.
When so when do you Do you have 

2211
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,160
to set time aside to write your 
sermons for Sunday? 

2212
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:12,840
Like how? 
How does the flow work between 

2213
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,800
figuring out all the smash meals
and then figuring out what your 

2214
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,120
congregation needs? 
That's a great question. 

2215
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,560
So when I was in Chattanooga, 
one of my ministries, I worked 

2216
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,720
as as an associate for a guy 
named Mark Gooden. 

2217
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,720
And Mark was the senior pastor 
of Signal Crust United Methodist

2218
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:33,520
Church. 
And he wrote his sermons a year 

2219
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,840
in advance. 
So he would sit down in June and

2220
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,880
start sketching out and he knew 
every sermon title in scriptures

2221
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,760
for a year. 
And so he got me in the habit of

2222
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:48,440
doing that. 
And so I have every sermon title

2223
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,360
and scriptures planned out all 
the way through December 31st. 

2224
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,560
So then on Monday morning when I
wake up and I get going, I open 

2225
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,680
up my my phone and I go to what 
the scripture is going to be for

2226
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,200
the following Sunday. 
And I read all those scriptures 

2227
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,920
and I read the sermon title and 
then throughout the week when 

2228
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,960
things happen and I'm reading 
the scriptures and I'll read the

2229
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,600
scriptures around it. 
And then I began to write my 

2230
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,240
sermon. 
And then on Thursday I actually 

2231
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,040
sit down and, and sketch it out 
like after I've written. 

2232
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,600
So I've written all week and 
then Thursday I put it in long 

2233
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,720
form and send it off to our tech
guys to put it on screens. 

2234
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,080
But it's a, it's a week long, 
you know, it's a process. 

2235
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:34,000
But so the month of November, I 
take the whole month to get 

2236
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,320
ready for the next year. 
And then I, so that's when I 

2237
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:41,040
normally, you know. 
And if if there's something that

2238
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:45,560
happens that you feel like you 
need to address something, it's 

2239
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,800
differently if you need to pivot
the sermon I'm. 

2240
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:52,840
Telling you the most amazing 
thing is it no matter what seems

2241
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:57,760
to happen in our society, in our
world, in my life, that sermon's

2242
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,120
ready for it. 
It's the most amazing thing that

2243
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:01,400
I've ever experienced in my 
life. 

2244
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,640
Because even when COVID hit, 
like the sermons that I've 

2245
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:09,600
prepared a year in advance 
worked perfect with COVID, If 

2246
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,560
there's something that's 
happened in our society, I'll go

2247
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,720
to that scripture for that week 
and I'll be like, how? 

2248
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,840
Like, how did we know that that 
was going to be the scripture? 

2249
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,520
And it blows me away. 
And I've been doing this for 

2250
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,960
years and it still blows me away
to this day because it seems it 

2251
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,480
to me anyway, as a as the writer
of the sermon, that feel like 

2252
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:34,080
what God's giving me. 
It always lines up and it and 

2253
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:35,880
it's it's been that way for a 
long time. 

2254
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:41,480
So often times I'll pull in 
different scriptures, but the 

2255
01:47:41,480 --> 01:47:44,600
theme never changes. 
And it and it and it's always 

2256
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,280
been aligned with what's 
happened in our society. 

2257
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:48,760
It's cool. 
Yeah, well, that's God going 

2258
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,200
before you on that one. 
Oh, absolutely. 

2259
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,240
Yeah, Give God the grace on 
that, you know, credit on that. 

2260
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:56,760
And my buddy Joe, he always 
says, you know, God is awesome. 

2261
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,840
He's like, if I ever catch 
somebody saying God is good, and

2262
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,560
I always like, Nope, God is 
awesome. 

2263
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,080
And he's a preacher. 
And he said anytime somebody 

2264
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,280
says that's a good sermon, he's 
like, all right, God, good job 

2265
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,120
up there. 
You know, like we're not going 

2266
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,000
to take the credit for that. 
So it's not, it's not an easy 

2267
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,800
thing. 
I mean to, to write sermons 

2268
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:17,520
every single week and, but to 
have repetition, you know, and I

2269
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,960
know when I got to do certain 
things and you know, it's just 

2270
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:25,040
like, just like buying certain 
products, buying certain food to

2271
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,520
cook, like there's just process 
for it all. 

2272
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,240
And I just kind of follow the 
process of going what I do. 

2273
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:31,840
What's the name of your church 
right now? 

2274
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,240
So I have two Bluff City United 
Methodist Church, which is in 

2275
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:38,320
the middle of Bluff City, and 
then Weaver Union Church, which 

2276
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:42,160
is out kind of like next to 
Sylvan East High School closed 

2277
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,080
out there. 
And it's an interesting church 

2278
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,240
because it's a Union church and 
Union churches are made-up of 

2279
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,920
multiple different churches. 
So we are a Presbyterian 

2280
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,760
Methodist Church. 
I'm the only pastor there. 

2281
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,960
But back in the day when Union 
churches were about, when they 

2282
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,240
first kind of came about, a 
Methodist pastor would be there 

2283
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,480
one Sunday, a Presbyterian 
pastor would be there the next 

2284
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:03,040
Sunday, a Baptist prized pastor 
would be the next Sunday. 

2285
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,200
And then and they'd rotate 
through that. 

2286
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:09,680
And so it's really cool to see, 
you know, multiple different 

2287
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,640
people who who have slightly 
different theologies coming 

2288
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,480
together to worship. 
I love that about our churches. 

2289
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,640
You know, both my churches are 
awesome. 

2290
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,480
I'm really happy to be there. 
Have you always had two? 

2291
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,960
Seems like the recurring theme 
is you've always had two at one 

2292
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,240
time. 
So my, my first charge was, you 

2293
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,400
know, 2 churches in Mount Carmel
and Oakfield. 

2294
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,200
And then I went to Sunbright and
Rugby Rd. 

2295
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:34,040
Then I went to a a stand alone 
church signal Crest. 

2296
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,440
And then from Signal Crest down 
in Chattanooga, I moved up to 

2297
01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:43,200
Easton up up this area and I was
at Mossam and Hardin Valley and 

2298
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:48,360
and then I went to Salem, which 
is a one point church and 

2299
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,240
because it was a bigger church. 
And then and then I was there 

2300
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,480
for eight years. 
And then after that I came to 

2301
01:49:53,480 --> 01:49:55,480
these two small churches. 
OK, Yeah. 

2302
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,440
So it's been a journey. 
Yeah, and so are you. 

2303
01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:00,640
Is the church looking for a 
Presbyterian pastor too? 

2304
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,240
To no share the load? 
No. 

2305
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,720
No, no, no. 
We'll just as long as I'm there,

2306
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:05,960
they'll just, they'll just have 
me. 

2307
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,520
And then maybe the next pastor 
will be a Presbyterian pastor. 

2308
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:09,760
You just never know. 
Yeah. 

2309
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,920
Yeah. 
So back to smash meals for a 

2310
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:13,600
second. 
OK. 

2311
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:20,640
Do you like have any experience 
like prior to this of being any 

2312
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,480
kind of a chef or a cook or have
you just always enjoyed cooking?

2313
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,240
No, the answer is absolutely 
not. 

2314
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,320
I've always enjoyed cooking. 
Never. 

2315
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,320
So when I was a little boy, my 
mom would help me cook, my dad 

2316
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,600
would make me go out and start 
the grill and cook steaks. 

2317
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,040
And I remember crying one day 
because I couldn't figure out 

2318
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,640
how to start the grill. 
And then one time I started the 

2319
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:45,200
grill and it caught the porch on
fire and and and I was ran 

2320
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,480
inside dad the porch on fire. 
And like, he's like, we'll go 

2321
01:50:47,480 --> 01:50:49,640
get a water hose and I come out 
there and I'm like, and it and 

2322
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:51,600
it and ember had fallen and it 
was on fire. 

2323
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,520
And my dad, he, he literally, I 
guess I was taking too long. 

2324
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,920
So he just peed and put it out. 
Like, I remember being as like a

2325
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,040
little kid like, and that's the 
coolest way to put a fire out, 

2326
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:05,240
you know, like, but so I always 
just cooked for my family and I 

2327
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,440
enjoyed that. 
And then when I was in seminary,

2328
01:51:09,480 --> 01:51:12,200
I had a week, of course, I lived
on campus a couple days a week. 

2329
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,040
And so I started cooking for 
the, for the guys that live with

2330
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:16,520
us. 
And every week we'd have 

2331
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,040
community meals and people just 
throw money in a pot. 

2332
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:20,760
I would go to the grocery store 
and come back and cook. 

2333
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:26,360
And so I've, I always loved 
cooking for people and a lot of 

2334
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,520
times when I cook, read when 
that's something I miss about 

2335
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:33,080
meal prep is I love to see their
reactions to them enjoying the 

2336
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:37,560
food because I, I'm the most 
confident in what they're going 

2337
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,800
to enjoy. 
So I'm scared to give people 

2338
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,240
gifts. 
It's a fear of mine. 

2339
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,960
I don't know what you call that 
if there's a, a word for it, but

2340
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:46,960
I'm constantly scared that when 
I give somebody a gift and they 

2341
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:48,760
open it, they're going to be 
disappointed. 

2342
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,360
And so I rarely wrap gifts 
because I don't want to see 

2343
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:56,600
somebody's disappointment. 
But when I cook food, I doubt 

2344
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,840
they're ever going to be 
disappointed because I know what

2345
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:03,960
it tastes like. 
And, and so being a a cook or a 

2346
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,680
chef, I've learned a lot from 
being a smash meals and I had to

2347
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:09,680
learn a lot, but I've always 
enjoyed it. 

2348
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:13,400
And I think that that helps, you
know, I want to taste good food.

2349
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:17,560
And so therefore I want people 
to taste good food, but I, I do 

2350
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,760
miss that because I never get to
see anybody eat my food. 

2351
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,160
And most catering events is just
drop and go. 

2352
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,960
And so like sometimes I'll, I'll
stand back and just watch people

2353
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,160
at first, you know, but I 
really, I want to know what 

2354
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:29,880
people think. 
I don't know what they don't 

2355
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,680
like or they do like or what 
kind of do different. 

2356
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,680
Like that's how you grow a 
business, right? 

2357
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,240
You get feedback. 
Like somebody recently said, 

2358
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,520
Hey, I wish on your salad you 
would put cheese in a container.

2359
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,600
So I called him this week and I 
was like, you know what I've 

2360
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,760
been thinking about your comment
from now on, we're going to put 

2361
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,800
all our cheese in a container, 
you know, like a little bowl. 

2362
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,360
So that doesn't just sit with a 
salad. 

2363
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,720
We're going to, you know, and 
hopefully that helps them enjoy 

2364
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:54,040
their food more because I want 
constant feedback of what I can 

2365
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:55,280
do better. 
A guy called me yesterday. 

2366
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:59,760
He's like, Hey, your burger, We 
have burgers on the menu and we,

2367
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,040
you know, whenever we sell 
burgers, what do you think I got

2368
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,600
to cook it to? 
I cook it to right 1135, right? 

2369
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:08,080
Most people aren't going to eat 
their burgers red, But if I cook

2370
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,840
it to one 45150 and they warm it
up in the microwave, it's going 

2371
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:12,560
to be hard as a rock. 
So he calls me and he's like, 

2372
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,320
hey, I'm a little nervous about 
eating this burger because it's 

2373
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,800
red inside. 
And I said, we do that on 

2374
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,360
purpose because when you warm it
up, it's it's not going to be 

2375
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:20,960
red. 
I was like, but it's cooking 

2376
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,880
temperature. 
You can technically eat it 

2377
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,400
without even warming it up and 
it's you're fine, but you need 

2378
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:28,520
to warm it up because you know, 
it's better. 

2379
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,920
And so he's like, thank you, you
know, but a lot of times people,

2380
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,960
you know, they don't always 
understand why we do what we do.

2381
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:40,360
And I think that, you know, for 
chicken, you know, 165, you 

2382
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:41,520
don't want it to be a degree 
more. 

2383
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:42,880
You don't want it to be a degree
less. 

2384
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,840
I mean, and that's a fine line 
because you cook it over 165 

2385
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,000
now. 
Now it's going to be hard. 

2386
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,480
You know, if you cook it less 
and it's raw and you're killing 

2387
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:52,360
people. 
So we have digital thermometers 

2388
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,800
everywhere. 
And but if you go back to your 

2389
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,840
original question, I have always
just loved cooking and it's been

2390
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,240
a passion of mine. 1 Christmas 
and I don't know how much time 

2391
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:03,840
we have left Brian. 
Brian keeps looking at me but. 

2392
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:09,960
No, you can keep going. 
Christmas, my, my dad comes home

2393
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,200
and he's like, all right, this 
year for Christmas, we're giving

2394
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:15,040
away sourdough bread. 
And somebody gave him a starter.

2395
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:19,640
And so we started with a 
sourdough starter and of course 

2396
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,880
you had to feed it. 
And so that night we gave away, 

2397
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,360
or the next day we gave away 3 
loaves. 

2398
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,760
That's all we made. 
Well, then our starter grew, 

2399
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,760
then we gave away 6 loaves. 
Then our starter grew some more.

2400
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,280
We gave away 12 loaves. 
Then our starter grew some more 

2401
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,440
and we were giving away 24 
loaves of bread a day. 

2402
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,000
And it was like a whole process.
We had bowls everywhere. 

2403
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,760
And we had, we had, and at first
we hated it, right? 

2404
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:43,720
Because all we saw was we were 
kneading and cutting and pulling

2405
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,480
and and cooking and, and yeah, 
we loved eating the sourdough 

2406
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,160
bread, but it was like 
exhausting. 

2407
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,400
Well, then people started 
telling us how much they love 

2408
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:53,600
the food now from mom and dad. 
I don't think it ever was 

2409
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,640
something they were said about. 
But for kids, we went from 

2410
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,760
dreading it to loving it because
we knew we were giving away 

2411
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:01,520
people. 
We were giving bread to people 

2412
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,560
and they were loving it. 
And like, and it's that moment 

2413
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,240
for me. 
Of course it goes back to that 

2414
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,960
validation of somebody saying, 
we love your bread, can you cook

2415
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,800
some more of it? 
And so we gave away so many 

2416
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:14,600
loaves of bread. 
So a few years ago, when my kids

2417
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,720
were, you know, younger, I 
decided one year I was going to 

2418
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,480
give away 100 loaves of bread 
there in December. 

2419
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,360
And so I did it at my home 
because, you know, sour dough 

2420
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:23,520
bread, you can make it gluten 
free. 

2421
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,000
It's kind of hard, But so I, I 
was just making regular 

2422
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,240
sourdough bread and we gave away
100 loaves one year. 

2423
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,000
And I, and I was telling my 
kids, I was like, one day you're

2424
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,280
going to look back on this and 
you're going to, you're going to

2425
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:34,760
thank me. 
I know right now you don't, you 

2426
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,920
don't appreciate it, but we're 
touching people's lives. 

2427
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:39,800
And we would keep bread in our 
car. 

2428
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,840
And if I stopped the stoplight, 
I would roll next to the 

2429
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,600
person's and wind it down. 
I'd be like rolling, wind it 

2430
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,200
down. 
And I would give them, I'm like,

2431
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:48,360
hey, I made this this morning. 
Here's a free loaf of bread. 

2432
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,960
Or I was in Pigeon Forge and 
we're going to watch the 

2433
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,800
Dollywood Stampede. 
I waited out in the parking lot 

2434
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:55,200
and I just gave people random 
loaves of bread, you know, 

2435
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:59,000
because it made me happy to see 
somebody receive something, you 

2436
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:03,400
know, And so I don't even know 
why I told you a story, but my 

2437
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,760
parents kind of instilled the 
love of, of cooking. 

2438
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,800
I mean, my sister owns a a bed 
and breakfast and, and she owns 

2439
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,800
charity chocolates. 
And so she makes chocolate for 

2440
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:17,760
people. 
And, you know, so like over the 

2441
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:22,320
month of February, like she 
sells 10s of thousands worth of 

2442
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,120
dollars worth of chocolate, you 
know, and it's her joy. 

2443
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:29,120
And you know, I, I love that 
this weekend we're going to 

2444
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,920
California to celebrate my kids 
birthday out and Big Bear, 

2445
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,200
California, we're going to take 
them snowboarding and my, my 

2446
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,480
other sister's coming in. 
And her first question was, Hey,

2447
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,920
I'm bringing food. 
You know, like, like she was 

2448
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,640
excited to bring us food to cook
at our condo. 

2449
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,120
We're all going to stay together
out there. 

2450
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,120
And, and you know, when we get 
together 4th of July as a big 

2451
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,880
family, we're all, we all would 
make a meal and, and that's a 

2452
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,120
big deal. 
Like dinner time for us is a big

2453
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:54,440
important meal because we would 
always sit around the table and 

2454
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:59,360
talk and discuss the day and, 
and actually, you know, just 

2455
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,840
watching your family eat 
together is so important. 

2456
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,680
And I don't do that enough. 
And I'm very guilty of that. 

2457
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:10,560
I provide for a lot of people, 
but because I do work so much, I

2458
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:14,280
often don't take that time from 
my kids and I just just enjoy a 

2459
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:18,560
meal together and I need to be 
better about that. 

2460
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,400
Yeah, you need to choose one 
night a week you can start that,

2461
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,120
that that's that's an important 
thing. 

2462
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:29,720
I remember growing up too, we 
had every meal together and 

2463
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,840
every meal every night. 
And then Saturday night was 

2464
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:36,520
pizza and a movie and we just 
had we just. 

2465
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,800
But then again, you know, we 
didn't have cell phones and 

2466
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:39,760
things like that back in the 
day. 

2467
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:41,520
We didn't have all the 
distractions that we have these 

2468
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:45,520
days, but and now you're finding
a lot more like restaurants are 

2469
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:49,400
putting baskets in the middle of
tables and so that you can put 

2470
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:52,240
your phone away and be present 
for the meal. 

2471
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:57,040
And it's you know what? 
We try to not have our phones 

2472
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,520
when we have supper together 
and, and things like that. 

2473
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,760
But it's not, it's not easy 
because especially being a 

2474
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,520
business owner, there's so many 
distractions for us all the 

2475
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,680
time. 
But then sometimes we just have 

2476
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,760
to go, all right, we know that 
God's going to control the 

2477
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,720
situation. 
We're going to take that 30 

2478
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:16,600
minutes and just try and enjoy 
this 30 minutes or whatever it 

2479
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,480
is, enjoy this meal. 
So that's that's something you 

2480
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:23,600
can challenge yourself for is 
maybe one night a week try and 

2481
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:24,920
do that. 
That's a good challenge. 

2482
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,640
Yeah, I'll like that. 
Or even Sundays try and just 

2483
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:29,880
have. 
I know that's probably a crazy 

2484
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:33,480
day for you, though, but just 
have that day really be nothing 

2485
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:37,120
else but pouring into those two 
twins of yours. 

2486
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:39,160
Yeah. 
Wait, that's a double negative, 

2487
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:40,080
isn't? 
It it doesn't. 

2488
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,000
Matter 2 twins. 
I like it OK. 

2489
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,920
We're going with it. 
It's set in stone. 

2490
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,480
Webster Dictionary. 
Yeah, we're setting you in 

2491
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:49,520
stone. 2. 
Twins of yours. 

2492
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,280
Done, Yeah. 
We want to make sure that we 

2493
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,560
know there's two of them. 
I actually knew a girl who had 

2494
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:55,920
two sets of twins. 
Really. 

2495
01:58:56,440 --> 01:59:00,680
Yeah, she's 4 kids, two sets. 
Never been pregnant any just 

2496
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,720
literally 2 sets of twins. 
Were there twins run in her 

2497
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,920
family? 
No, I think it was just kind of 

2498
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:07,200
a random fluke thing that 
happened. 

2499
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:10,360
So here's something cool that 
maybe somebody out in the 

2500
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,760
audience wants to know. 
So we didn't. 

2501
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,160
There's no twins in my family, 
no twins in Ashley's family. 

2502
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,440
So we were unsure of how that 
happened. 

2503
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:18,880
Right? 
Yeah. 

2504
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:24,800
We read a study that sweet 
potatoes increase fertility. 

2505
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:29,880
Ashley was gluten free, so she 
ate a ton of sweet potatoes. 

2506
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,360
Like at that time she was eating
sweet potatoes for every meal. 

2507
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,920
And I look back and I'm really 
think that it was a sweet 

2508
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,440
potatoes that increased her 
fertility that created one of 

2509
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:44,120
the reasons we had twins. 
And now I'm not a doctor. 

2510
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,200
I've never done any scientific 
research on that, but I will to 

2511
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,640
this day state that that's the 
reason why we had twins is 

2512
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,040
because of sweet potatoes. 
So if there's somebody out there

2513
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,200
they're trying to get pregnant, 
you know what, just start they. 

2514
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:55,920
Want twins? 
All the sweet potatoes. 

2515
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:57,640
Eat sweet potatoes. 
Just go for it. 

2516
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,360
Give it a shot. 
Well, they're they're delicious.

2517
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:02,520
You know how many sweet potatoes
I go through a week? 

2518
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:05,280
Probably a lot. 
Yeah, about 160 lbs. 

2519
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:10,440
What do you go through the most?
Chicken, Yeah, yeah, cuz I mean,

2520
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,480
we have it for lots of different
meals. 

2521
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:14,720
Chicken, sweet potatoes, russet 
potatoes. 

2522
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:19,040
I go through a lot of steak. 
A friend of mine, she wanted to 

2523
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,800
buy a cow with me And, and so I 
was like, well, it's got to be 

2524
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,560
USDA, you know, certified. 
Like I can't just sell random 

2525
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,120
meat. 
And she's like, oh, no, no, 

2526
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:29,160
they're fully inspected. 
It's fully, everything's done. 

2527
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:32,360
I was like, OK, so you know, we,
we pick it up from the 

2528
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:35,080
slaughterhouse like, you know, 
and it has a label and like, OK,

2529
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,120
we're good. 
And, and so she thinks it's a 

2530
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:42,400
big deal that we bought a cow. 
And so like a few weeks go by 

2531
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,000
and she's like, oh, I'm really 
enjoying this cow. 

2532
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:45,560
And I was like, Oh yeah, it was 
great. 

2533
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:48,120
And she's like, what did you say
What? 

2534
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:51,520
I was like, Oh yeah, I've 
already moved on to the next 

2535
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:53,440
Cal. 
Like, like that's gone. 

2536
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:55,800
And she's like, how did you go 
through that much meat? 

2537
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:59,120
And I'm like, well, you know, 
we, you know, about 100 lbs of 

2538
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,440
beef or of steak a week, 100 lbs
of of beef. 

2539
02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:04,760
We use the brisket, you know, we
use everything. 

2540
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,200
And, and she's like, Oh my gosh,
that's going to last me a whole 

2541
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,160
year and you're done with it. 
And I was like, that's part of 

2542
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:12,240
being a yeah, I'm a meal prep 
company. 

2543
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:16,200
Yeah, I don't think people can 
realize that they can buy like 

2544
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,200
that is literally the definition
of buying in bulk is buying like

2545
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:22,800
half a cow, 1/4 of a cow, 
because that's a lot, but you 

2546
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,800
need a deep freezer for that 
because it's gonna fill. 

2547
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:26,000
You do, I do. 
Hunt. 

2548
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:28,840
I do hunt so we this year my son
killed 2 deer. 

2549
02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:32,120
Oh, nice. 
And he was excited, so that was 

2550
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:33,000
a cool moment. 
So. 

2551
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,920
Was this his first time hunting?
No, we've been hunting for a 

2552
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,400
long He's missed. 
He's missed hundreds of deer. 

2553
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,800
And then this year, the 2 deer 
he shot at, he killed them both,

2554
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,840
thank goodness, but that we, we 
got to the first one that he 

2555
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:46,280
killed and I was teach him how 
to feel dressed and to walk him 

2556
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:49,680
through that process. 
And, and we had a prayer and we 

2557
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,480
thanked God right there around 
this deer that we just killed 

2558
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:55,360
for God providing. 
And so the next year he killed, 

2559
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:57,600
he's like, thank you God for 
providing. 

2560
02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:00,040
And, and, you know, and, and it 
was a big moment for me 'cause I

2561
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:01,160
said, dad, you know, you're 
teaching him. 

2562
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:03,200
And then, then we're eating it 
and we're, you know, and he, of 

2563
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,240
course, he's a good chef. 
So all the, all the deer he 

2564
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,320
cooks is phenomenal. 
And I, I love that. 

2565
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:11,720
Now there's a place down in in 
Greenville now I think it's 

2566
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:15,120
called Sands Meat Market. 
And you can go in there and you 

2567
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:18,600
can buy a quarter of a cow and 
it comes right now with a free 

2568
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:20,040
freezer. 
What? 

2569
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:23,800
Yeah, they will give you a 
freezer stand up freezer. 

2570
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,680
Write it down, Brian. 
Sands Meat Market I believe is 

2571
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:28,560
the name of. 
It and it's like beach sand 

2572
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:31,240
SAND. 
SANS and. 

2573
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:32,680
Brian, you're not writing it 
down. 

2574
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,800
He's memorizing it but you can 
go and literally if you buy I 

2575
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,560
think it's either 1/4 or half a 
cow, they will give you a free 

2576
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:40,640
freezer. 
Wow. 

2577
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:43,160
Yeah, how cool is that? 
That is really cool. 

2578
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,520
It just tastes really good. 
Oh, it's so good. 

2579
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:52,320
I tell you one thing that I love
about buying meat like that 

2580
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:55,960
versus meat in the grocery store
is when you cook it and if you 

2581
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:59,840
cook it side by side, you can 
smell the difference just. 

2582
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:01,000
Smell. 
You can see it too. 

2583
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,720
Well, yeah, but if you just 
close your eyes, you can know 

2584
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:07,160
which one was not come from a 
grocery store. 

2585
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:08,880
Yeah. 
And it's quite amazing. 

2586
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:14,320
Yeah, we have chickens and we 
just lost, like we just lost ten

2587
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:17,320
of them to a raccoon. 
Yeah. 

2588
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:20,680
That was traumatizing just to 
open up the coop door and then 

2589
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:22,120
to see a couple of them on the 
floor. 

2590
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:24,160
And yeah, chickens are 
cannibalistic. 

2591
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,560
So a few of them were like 
eating their sisters. 

2592
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:30,120
And we're like, gosh, get get 
off of her, you know, like. 

2593
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,480
And then the most disappointing 
part is that we can't enjoy the 

2594
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:35,520
meat because it's, you know, 
been spoiled. 

2595
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:38,200
Yeah, but and raccoons are weird
because they'll go for the head 

2596
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:40,880
and then they go for the 
intestines because they want the

2597
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,080
undigested food and then that's 
it. 

2598
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:44,360
They won't touch the rest of the
bird. 

2599
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,280
So, you know, they were pretty 
mutilated in the coop. 

2600
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:52,680
But you can you can definitely 
tell the difference because, you

2601
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:56,240
know, farm fresh eggs are girls 
free range for the most part. 

2602
02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:02,920
And the the yolk color, the 
everything like tastes so good. 

2603
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:06,560
It's so buttery when they're 
like, you know, happy healthy 

2604
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,720
hens. 
And we in our in this bunch, we 

2605
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,360
got 2 Roosters. 
We didn't know that we're going 

2606
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,800
to get any Roosters sometimes. 
So rural King does this thing 

2607
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:17,280
called dollar days. 
Oh yeah. 

2608
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:19,360
Where you can get your chicks 
for a dollar. 

2609
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:23,480
They already feathered out. 
Who doesn't love rural King? 

2610
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,920
If you have kids, go there. 
Make it like. 

2611
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:27,640
It's such a fun place. 
Yeah. 

2612
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:30,560
And so we only buy chicks when 
they're a dollar because why 

2613
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:31,760
not? 
They're already feathered out. 

2614
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:33,920
So they've already fed them the 
first few weeks of their life 

2615
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:35,880
and they feed them an organic 
feed. 

2616
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,840
We were like surprised to find 
that out. 

2617
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:39,280
We were like, wow, OK, well 
that's cool. 

2618
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,720
And they're not like vaccinated 
chicks like you. 

2619
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,720
You have control over your flock
and what you want to do with 

2620
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,040
them. 
And so that's where we've gotten

2621
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:53,760
all of our dollar chicks from. 
And they just like just love 

2622
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:55,880
keeping chickens. 
There's hilarious. 

2623
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:56,760
They're fun. 
Do. 

2624
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:00,520
You have any Guineas? 
No, OK, no. 

2625
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,400
Do you know Guineas? 
I learned this when I lived in 

2626
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,280
some bright Guineas around 
chickens. 

2627
02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:09,840
Guineas will go and eat all that
random animals and or random 

2628
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:12,360
bugs that help the chick that 
don't that will attack the 

2629
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:16,880
chickens and they keep Roosters 
away or like garments away like 

2630
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:20,000
mice and and maybe raccoons. 
But maybe you should get a 

2631
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,760
Guinea. 
Maybe. 

2632
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:24,000
They're loud though. 
Yeah, they are really they. 

2633
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:27,680
Well, I mean, our Roosters we 
have, I mean, one of them is 

2634
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:30,640
pretty pretty. 
He, he constantly crows. 

2635
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:34,360
But the next day after the 
raccoon attack, one of our 

2636
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:39,000
Roosters was a little beat up. 
And so we were like, maybe, you 

2637
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:43,480
know, maybe he attacked the 
raccoon and got him out of 

2638
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:46,400
there. 
So it, it was interesting. 

2639
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:49,480
It was a weak point in our food 
system that we had. 

2640
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,000
We have a little automatic 
feeder that we have a cut a hole

2641
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:55,120
cut out and the feeder is really
heavy and it's big and it's 

2642
02:05:55,120 --> 02:06:01,320
what's it made out of. 
It's just steel, what stainless 

2643
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:03,120
steel. 
And so it's like it's a pretty 

2644
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:05,960
decent especially when it's 
filled with a 4050 LB bag of 

2645
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,160
feed. 
And so and it's on a little 

2646
02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:11,680
platform and we haven't anchored
it or had to do anything. 

2647
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:14,360
We've never had any problems 
with any predators getting in 

2648
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:18,000
the coop. 
Well, the raccoon figured out to

2649
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:21,520
pull it down and so then it left
the opening. 

2650
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,440
So our, the, the food was like 
tipped over like this. 

2651
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,400
And then he just went in there 
and then went to town and we 

2652
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:30,640
have all the roost bars. 
Like we, we built it out of old 

2653
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:34,240
pallets and then we take old 
branches as the roosting bars to

2654
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:36,440
kind of make it feel like the 
most organic for the chickens. 

2655
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:39,320
Plus it's in the yard. 
It's free. 

2656
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:43,080
It's, you know, branches And so 
it, some of them, I don't know 

2657
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,560
if you could get up there, but 
the Roosters, I don't know. 

2658
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:48,800
So we should get a trail Cam and
put it in the. 

2659
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:51,480
I think it's a great idea. 
Oh, that would have been pretty 

2660
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:53,760
tough to see. 
But we try and keep it real for 

2661
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,560
our boys. 
Like we like the girls, you 

2662
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:58,360
know, they were dead. 
We threw them out. 

2663
02:06:58,360 --> 02:06:59,920
One of the boys wanted to touch 
it. 

2664
02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:01,760
And we were like, OK. 
And so we got a stick and he was

2665
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,680
like poking it. 
And we've had to, we had to 

2666
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:09,040
slaughter a few that have either
gotten, like, mauled or had, you

2667
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:11,160
know, Yeah. 
So Brian has to you. 

2668
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:14,080
Know that made me think about 
Cold Mountain. 

2669
02:07:14,080 --> 02:07:15,280
You remember the movie Cold 
Mountain? 

2670
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:18,120
Have you ever seen that movie? 
I don't wait. 

2671
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,040
Nicole Kidman and Jude Law, 
right? 

2672
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:22,400
Don't ask me, people. 
Just okay, I think so. 

2673
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:23,360
I think that's it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2674
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:26,480
They grew up on the farm, they 
had raised the chickens and do 

2675
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:28,960
all this stuff and for some 
reason that just popped on that 

2676
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:30,400
cold melt and that was a great 
movie. 

2677
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:35,240
Raising chickens is really fun. 
It's like they, they just have 

2678
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,160
their own personality. 
They're just so cute. 

2679
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:38,840
They're just really fun. 
Like we'll go outside and 

2680
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:42,240
they'll just like run over to us
and be like, Hey, hey, how's it 

2681
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:43,760
going? 
And they look at you like, 

2682
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:46,040
they'll go Kirk because they're,
they have crazy eyes. 

2683
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:48,760
So one eye looks up for 
predators and then one looks 

2684
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:52,120
down for like you can't like, 
that's just how they're always, 

2685
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:54,120
there's always going, you can't 
see it. 

2686
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:55,720
That's just how they, their eyes
operate. 

2687
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:57,280
They're just always looking up 
and always looking down. 

2688
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,640
So when they look at you, 
they'll be like and they'll, 

2689
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:02,800
it's just really funny. 
We just love having chickens. 

2690
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:06,200
We need more though, because now
we've got we're coming off 

2691
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:09,720
winter, so we're at like 6 to 10
a day of eggs, Yeah. 

2692
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:13,920
Or you didn't go to Royal King. 
It's $1.00 eggs or dollar dollar

2693
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:15,720
chicks. 
Well, that's the hardest part is

2694
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:18,240
raising them though, because it 
just takes, you know, it's like 

2695
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:20,280
4 months before they start 
producing. 

2696
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,480
So then you're in the negative 
for those four months? 

2697
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:24,440
I want I tell you something 
about Royal King. 

2698
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:27,520
Obviously, I love the popcorn. 
I love walking around and seeing

2699
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:28,240
everything. 
Yeah. 

2700
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:31,760
So I take my kids there one day 
and they had Coleman 4 Wheelers 

2701
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,680
and my kids were like on a four 
Wheeler. 

2702
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:39,440
Yeah. 
And I was like, you know what, 

2703
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:42,000
why not? 
They were like $1900. 

2704
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:46,080
So I go to the register and they
were like, would you like to to 

2705
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:49,920
buy the lifetime warranty or the
five year warranty? 

2706
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,080
I guess it was five years. 
And I was like, well, I don't 

2707
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:53,880
know, we'll tell you about it. 
And they're like, well, if 

2708
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:57,280
anything happens in five years, 
we'll fix it or replace it free 

2709
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:58,920
of charge. 
I was like, how much? 

2710
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,480
And it was like 190 dollars is 
like 10% of the price. 

2711
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:04,040
And I was like, so I said to the
salesperson, I was like, so 

2712
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,960
you're telling me that if my 
fault were then I'm fixing to 

2713
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:11,920
buy from you rolls into the lake
because we live all like that. 

2714
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:14,600
You will fix it or replace it 
for free for five years. 

2715
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:16,640
Absolutely no questions to ask. 
I said. 

2716
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:21,040
So you're telling me that if it 
rolls over multiple times? 

2717
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:22,760
Yeah. 
You're going to fix it or 

2718
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:25,200
replace it for free, Absolutely 
no question to ask. 

2719
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:29,320
So you're telling me the chain 
and you're going to fix it or 

2720
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:32,080
replace it for free? 
They were like, yeah, 

2721
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,680
absolutely. 
It's the greatest day of my 

2722
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:36,440
life. 
Yeah. 

2723
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:40,320
So I take them folders home and 
within three weeks both of them 

2724
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,600
are broke. 
Load them back up on my trailer,

2725
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:46,760
take them over there, they fix 
them, get them back home, ride 

2726
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,920
them for another 3 or 4 weeks, 
they break again, take them back

2727
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:51,760
over there. 
So this goes on for a couple 

2728
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:55,600
years. 
Well, my kids quit like riding 

2729
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:59,440
them because they were small and
so I was getting ready to sell 

2730
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:00,320
them and I was like, you know 
what? 

2731
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:01,760
Before I sell them, I'm gonna 
take them there and get them 

2732
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:03,920
fixed one more time. 
I take them to real king. 

2733
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:05,480
I'm like, hey, I need y'all to 
fix these 4 Wheelers. 

2734
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:09,840
They're like OK, so I don't 
think about it for like 3 or 4 

2735
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:13,200
months, like just for a month. 
All of a sudden I'm like Oh my 

2736
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:14,360
gosh, I gotta go with them 4 
Wheelers. 

2737
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:17,400
I go back to real king. 
They can't find my 4 Wheelers. 

2738
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:18,320
Oh. 
My gosh. 

2739
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:23,960
Somebody had thrown them away. 
Real King gave me all my money 

2740
02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:26,080
back because they couldn't 
replace them because they quit 

2741
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:29,480
selling them. 
So I got all my money back. 

2742
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:34,760
That's what my kids enjoyed them
for three years and they still 

2743
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:37,520
have that deal at Rural King. 
You go buy any farm equipment 

2744
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:38,800
over there and you pay for the 
warranty. 

2745
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:42,000
They will fix it or replace it 
for free, no questions asked. 

2746
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:43,160
Wow. 
Yeah. 

2747
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,840
So I didn't know that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2748
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:46,640
Wow. 
Yeah. 

2749
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:50,560
That's that's crazy. 
It's such an, such a different 

2750
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:53,640
awesome store. 
Like we, until we moved to 

2751
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:57,320
Tennessee, we didn't know what 
rural king was and we were like,

2752
02:10:57,320 --> 02:11:00,440
what is cuz we tractor supply is
more normal. 

2753
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:03,000
You know, where we, where we 
lived. 

2754
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,120
And so it's like RK is the best.
That's what we call, but our 

2755
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:09,160
boys call it the so they call 
chickens Kikis. 

2756
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:12,240
That's you know how kids come up
with names for things. 

2757
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:14,160
Open meal. 
We already talked about kikis. 

2758
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:18,200
That's chicken in our house. 
And so they call it the Kiki 

2759
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:19,520
store. 
They're like, let's go to the 

2760
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:23,520
Kiki store and get some popcorn,
you know, gets whatever some 

2761
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:25,920
feed or stuff. 
We actually just watched a video

2762
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:31,120
yesterday on how to make your 
own chicken feed from black fly 

2763
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:34,760
larvae. 
So you attract black flies by 

2764
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:39,240
composting and then you you can 
create your own chicken feed 

2765
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,240
basically. 
And then it's supposed to help 

2766
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:42,880
the it's supposed to help the 
eggs taste even better. 

2767
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:43,960
Isn't that what they said in the
video? 

2768
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:44,440
I'm. 
Sure. 

2769
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:46,160
I mean I watched Ace Ventura Pet
Detective. 

2770
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:49,280
He ate the the guava, you know, 
from the bats I mean. 

2771
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,440
Guano. 
Yeah, Yeah, I remember that. 

2772
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,000
It's good times. 
It's good times. 

2773
02:11:57,560 --> 02:11:58,920
Of course we're going to have 
you back, Lou. 

2774
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:01,880
I would love to, you know, have 
you ever watched the I Am Second

2775
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:05,640
videos where they sit in like 
little white chairs with a black

2776
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:07,360
backdrop and they tell their 
child like their story. 

2777
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:09,040
They're fake. 
How they OK, check it out. 

2778
02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:11,280
It's I Am second. 
It's a good video series. 

2779
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:14,080
But as I was sitting here today,
I was like, I was like, oh, I 

2780
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,640
just went away from the mic And 
I was like, oh man, I would love

2781
02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:20,680
just to come back and just like 
really like write down like 

2782
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:23,080
stories from the last 20 
something years of me being a 

2783
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:26,000
pastor. 
Because, you know, as a pastor, 

2784
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:29,480
you have all these stories that 
you hold on to of places you've 

2785
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:33,520
been, people you've met, you 
know, so many people are and so 

2786
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:36,240
important to you, you know, and 
I think about them, but I don't 

2787
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:37,800
ever talk about them. 
Like, I mean, sometimes I'll 

2788
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:40,360
mention them in sermons, but 
like, you don't really just go 

2789
02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:42,880
around tell Oh, let me tell you 
about Billy. 

2790
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:46,960
You know, Billy Ward, this guy I
met in some right, who owned the

2791
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:49,960
race team, who, you know, I 
never know what he's going to 

2792
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:52,440
say, but he somehow loved me. 
I don't, you know, our, our Doug

2793
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:54,880
and Chris are Torrance or, you 
know, you're just random people.

2794
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:59,000
You know, I get this guy named 
Clifton, you know, and I mean, 

2795
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:02,240
it's just so many people that, 
that I've had a chance to 

2796
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:05,160
interact with in my life that I 
think it'd be fun to put on 

2797
02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:08,040
video or audio and just, you 
know, 'cause there's so much we 

2798
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:11,280
can learn from people that but 
we don't stop to go back and 

2799
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:12,840
listen. 
And I was telling a buddy of 

2800
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:14,520
mine, Adam, he's in college at 
Chattanooga. 

2801
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:17,920
His dad's one of my best 
friends, Bruce Miller, He's an 

2802
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:19,280
orthopedic surgeon over in 
Kingsport. 

2803
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:22,200
And Adam was like, oh man, 
you're gonna do podcasts. 

2804
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:23,880
I love podcasts. 
I was like, what do you love 

2805
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:25,760
about it? 
And he's like, well, I start in 

2806
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:29,320
Chattanooga and I push play. 
And I love Joe Rogan 'cause he's

2807
02:13:29,320 --> 02:13:32,680
3 hours long and it's the same 
amount of distance as it takes 

2808
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:34,080
from get to Chattanooga to 
Kingsport. 

2809
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:37,920
And I get to hear people's 
stories of what they've went 

2810
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,800
through and he's like, and then 
one day that story will come 

2811
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:43,560
back to impact me. 
And and that blows me away 

2812
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:48,360
because as pastors, we take 15 
to 20 minutes and we tell 

2813
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:52,960
stories and people are done. 
So like, what, what is podcast 

2814
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,040
getting that that preaching is 
not or, or what is regular 

2815
02:13:56,040 --> 02:14:00,000
conversation that why do people 
enjoy podcasts so much? 

2816
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:03,040
And and I think it's because 
they don't have to respond, 

2817
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,240
right? 
Because one of our issues as 

2818
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:10,120
humans is if you're telling me a
story, often times instead of 

2819
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:13,240
just listening to that story, 
I'm waiting to tell you my 

2820
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,480
story. 
Whereas a podcast, you don't 

2821
02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:17,160
ever get to tell them your 
story. 

2822
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:20,800
So you get to fully invest 
yourself into their story 

2823
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,600
because you don't have to 
respond. 

2824
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:26,040
And I think if that's a powerful
key to a podcast, something I 

2825
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:29,200
heard the other day and I, and 
I, and I've been really trying 

2826
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,280
to do this and I, I want your 
opinion. 

2827
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:34,280
Am I doing it? 
It said that if I were to say to

2828
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:38,360
you, hey, my kid is or you were 
to say to me, my kids join the 

2829
02:14:38,360 --> 02:14:42,200
band because he's in the 6th 
grade or whatever, most people 

2830
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:44,440
will respond. 
I remember when my kid joined 

2831
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:47,040
the band. 
But what if your response was, 

2832
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:50,600
were they nervous? 
How are you as a parent handling

2833
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:53,240
the noise? 
And you asked him 5 or 6 

2834
02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:55,240
questions about what they just 
said. 

2835
02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:57,760
And then eventually you can say,
hey, let me tell you about my 

2836
02:14:57,760 --> 02:14:59,360
kid when he was enjoying the 6th
grade. 

2837
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:01,920
And imagine how much different 
our conversations would flow. 

2838
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:04,720
And I think that's what a 
podcast does, because you don't 

2839
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:07,560
have a chance to interrupt their
story. 

2840
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:11,520
And so I, I think that that's 
one of the things powerful about

2841
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,400
what y'all are doing. 
Yeah, well, and that's what we 

2842
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:15,000
want to. 
That's what we're learning how 

2843
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:17,360
to do too, because we want to be
better listeners. 

2844
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:20,440
I don't, I don't, you know, I'll
interject a story or maybe I'll 

2845
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:23,520
hysterically cry like I did 
earlier while telling a story. 

2846
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:25,480
But like, it's not really about 
me. 

2847
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:29,000
It's about the other person. 
But it's a conversation and 

2848
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:30,760
that's what's cool. 
And those are the kind of 

2849
02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:33,240
podcasts that we enjoy too is 
just like, Oh my gosh, cool. 

2850
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:36,440
That's so fun to learn about 
that person or learn about that 

2851
02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:38,280
field. 
You know, with Joe Rogan always 

2852
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:42,960
having crazy people on there 
that like, you know, some crazy 

2853
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,600
chemical engineer that worked on
like a single cell Organism for 

2854
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:47,480
three, 300 years and he's still 
alive. 

2855
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:49,040
Like I don't know anything about
that. 

2856
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:50,000
Cool. 
All right. 

2857
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:52,040
And so that's what's just really
fun. 

2858
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,880
And so that's what's cool too 
about this is that the audience 

2859
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:57,680
is local and the people are 
local. 

2860
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,760
And so if anyone wants to come 
and talk about their story, so 

2861
02:16:00,760 --> 02:16:02,480
we would absolutely love to do 
that with you. 

2862
02:16:03,800 --> 02:16:05,040
Right? 
Yeah. 

2863
02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:07,800
Brian's like heck yes, yeah. 
You just tell us one. 

2864
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:10,840
We'll get another date. 
We'll call this one Part 1. 

2865
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:12,920
OK. 
And then we'll have Part 2. 

2866
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:14,440
And then we'll have Lou Part 2 
it. 

2867
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:20,400
Even rhymes Lou. 
Yeah, Part 2. 

2868
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:24,920
So where can people find smash 
meals? 

2869
02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:30,960
So give me website, social media
handles and then also church. 

2870
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:35,480
OK so for 
smashmailssmashmails.com I'll 

2871
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:37,080
practice that all the time. 
smashmeals.com. 

2872
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:42,879
So that's a place they go. 
Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, all

2873
02:16:42,879 --> 02:16:48,400
smash mails, Reddit subreddit, 
sub stack, all the things smash 

2874
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:50,320
mails. 
I even have a Twitter account 

2875
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:51,520
who knew? 
And a YouTube. 

2876
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:55,480
My YouTube actually gets more 
views than any others combined. 

2877
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:59,959
I get every time I do something 
on YouTube like thousands and 

2878
02:16:59,959 --> 02:17:01,600
thousands. 
I mean I have one it's like a 

2879
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:03,680
couple million. 
I'm like, I didn't even know 

2880
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,520
people watch YouTube. 
But anyway, smash mills on there

2881
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,360
too. 
That's the place you can go to 

2882
02:17:08,360 --> 02:17:10,080
order. 
You can go learn about the 

2883
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:13,920
smashmills.com, a lot of 
information locally. 

2884
02:17:15,040 --> 02:17:17,719
We have in Kingsport at 
Meadowview where it's where our 

2885
02:17:17,719 --> 02:17:22,520
local located, the Great Body 
Company is in Kingsport. 

2886
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:25,200
We sell food out of the 
refrigerator and you can get 

2887
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:27,959
that build power grind on Fort 
Henry. 

2888
02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:32,000
You can pick up there Clark 
Chiropractic. 

2889
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:35,559
They've been our first ever 
supporters, Clark Chiropractic 

2890
02:17:35,559 --> 02:17:37,160
and they so they been with us 
for eight years. 

2891
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:39,600
And so you can pick up there. 
You can order food and pick up 

2892
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:43,840
there on Sundays. 
Misfits Fitness and then we have

2893
02:17:44,680 --> 02:17:48,360
Natural Foods Market, which I'm 
excited about because we got not

2894
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,440
only you can pick up food 
pre-order, but you can go in 

2895
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:51,639
their grocery store and pick up 
food there. 

2896
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:56,719
They sell, which is cool. 
Then we have, I know I'm going 

2897
02:17:56,719 --> 02:17:58,160
to forget something, Olson 
Martial Arts. 

2898
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:01,160
You can go outside on Mondays. 
You can meet in the parking lot 

2899
02:18:01,160 --> 02:18:05,840
and we have Greenville CrossFit,
Arcane, Elizabethan Ridge Runner

2900
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:11,160
CrossFit. 
You can pick up there in Bulls 

2901
02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:13,160
Gap. 
There's a place called Center of

2902
02:18:13,160 --> 02:18:16,200
Strength, really cool lady owned
gym. 

2903
02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:18,080
It's really cool. 
They're in like heavy lifting 

2904
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:21,080
and a really neat place that you
can pick up. 

2905
02:18:21,360 --> 02:18:26,120
We ship all over the country. 
We FedEx food out, so there's a 

2906
02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:30,320
ton of places that you can, you 
can find smash meals. 

2907
02:18:30,520 --> 02:18:34,360
Most people pre-order, but we do
have a lot of people that just 

2908
02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:37,040
will go to random jails where 
they sell our food and they just

2909
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:39,920
pick it up as they go. 
So those are some great 

2910
02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:41,520
opportunities for 
smashmeals.com. 

2911
02:18:41,799 --> 02:18:45,040
But remember this, it changes 
every single week. 

2912
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:49,320
All of our sides stay the exact 
same, but our main breakfast and

2913
02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:52,400
entrees and, and a lot of times 
our desserts change every single

2914
02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:55,040
week. 
So for our churches, we're on 

2915
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:57,400
Facebook with Bluff City and we 
reunion. 

2916
02:18:57,400 --> 02:18:59,440
All my sermons are on there 
every single Sunday. 

2917
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:01,200
So you can go back and watch any
star when you want. 

2918
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:06,240
And Bluff City starts at 11 and 
we reunion starts at 9. 

2919
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:11,480
They're small churches. 
Bluff City is, you know, 40 to 

2920
02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:15,200
60 on Sunday and we reunion is 
going to be 15 to 25. 

2921
02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:18,280
Really cool little churches. 
We have a lot going on. 

2922
02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:20,360
One of the neat things that 
we've been doing recently is 

2923
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:24,760
every we have a free meal every 
every Thursday night at 6:00 and

2924
02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:27,760
anybody can come get a free meal
and sit and eat. 

2925
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:31,719
It goes from 6:00 to 7:30. 
That has been really cool just 

2926
02:19:31,719 --> 02:19:35,120
to see people coming to eat. 
Last week I did a Taco bar for 

2927
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:39,320
people and I thought I cooked 
enough and we ran out of 

2928
02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:40,719
everything but rice. 
For some reason. 

2929
02:19:40,719 --> 02:19:42,559
I don't know what I was thinking
when I was making the rice 

2930
02:19:42,559 --> 02:19:45,680
because normally I make rice and
it's 30 lbs at a time and 

2931
02:19:45,680 --> 02:19:48,960
instead of thinking I'm cooking 
for 30 people, I made 30 lbs of 

2932
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:51,040
rice. 
So we have plenty of rice, but 

2933
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:51,800
a. 
Lot of rice. 

2934
02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:54,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But those things you found out 

2935
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:58,720
about us, our church and you can
see see find me on TikTok, Lou 

2936
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:01,120
Kaiser. 
I love doing TikTok. 

2937
02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:04,800
I don't know why I like it, but 
I crack up every time I make 

2938
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:06,480
one. 
I was doing this one last year 

2939
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:08,960
and it got it got a lot of 
views, like a couple 100,000 I 

2940
02:20:08,960 --> 02:20:13,880
think, But it was this guy doing
I'll fly away and he was like a 

2941
02:20:13,880 --> 02:20:17,320
DJ doing I'll fly away. 
But it was with like a like a 

2942
02:20:17,320 --> 02:20:20,440
rap song kind of like. 
And so I was in there just 

2943
02:20:20,440 --> 02:20:25,160
giving a little jam, you know, 
like Tik Tok's like that avenue.

2944
02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:26,520
I don't really care what people 
see. 

2945
02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:28,520
You know, I'm just going to do 
whatever, whatever I'm thinking,

2946
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:30,760
whether if I'm video somebody. 
My kids, I'm going to post 

2947
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:32,680
those. 
But one of the things I love 

2948
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:36,320
about social media is when I 
look back at my childhood, we 

2949
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:40,120
got like 2 pictures, right? 
And my parents were amazing 

2950
02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:41,960
parents. 
They literally just didn't have 

2951
02:20:41,960 --> 02:20:44,800
time to take pictures. 
And so those cool pictures, I 

2952
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:47,880
cherish when I see those, but 
that's all I have. 

2953
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:50,400
So we have my kids come around, 
we have social media. 

2954
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:55,000
So I post about them on TikTok, 
on Facebook, Instagram all the 

2955
02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:58,200
time. 
And then I can't wait see what 

2956
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:00,120
my memories of the day was to 
remember that moment. 

2957
02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:03,760
And I think as much as social 
media has destroyed our country 

2958
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:07,440
and our society and our ability 
to talk to people for our 

2959
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:10,480
memories, it's really been 
beneficial. 

2960
02:21:11,320 --> 02:21:14,640
So many people live through 
social media and their lives are

2961
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:16,040
not actually who they are on 
social media. 

2962
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:17,200
It's who they want to pretend to
be. 

2963
02:21:17,880 --> 02:21:20,480
And, and, and yes, that has 
destroyed so many people's 

2964
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:24,400
ability to communicate because 
they've created a persona that's

2965
02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:26,840
really not them. 
And we all do it, whether we 

2966
02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:30,000
know it, we're doing it or not. 
But for me, the most powerful 

2967
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:35,760
thing that we have is memories. 
And I know one day my memory is 

2968
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:40,680
going to fade, but I can look 
back on Facebook and I can watch

2969
02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:43,640
my kids grow up. 
I can see my life changing, you 

2970
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:48,120
know, and, and I don't delete 
stuff, you know, So almost every

2971
02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:51,200
day there will be something that
comes up about my ex-wife, 

2972
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:53,640
right? 
And as a memory, I mean, it's, 

2973
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:58,040
it's not like I just all of a 
sudden forgot, you know, our, 

2974
02:21:58,040 --> 02:22:01,280
our, there'll be something like 
my, my car rash, a car wreck 

2975
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:04,440
will come up or my mother's 
wreck or something bad that will

2976
02:22:04,440 --> 02:22:06,400
happen that I posted about her, 
I showed a picture of. 

2977
02:22:06,880 --> 02:22:10,120
And that's part of who I am. 
And we, we can never deny who we

2978
02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:12,760
are just because we're somebody 
different, right? 

2979
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:14,920
That's, that's what got us to 
where we are. 

2980
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:19,240
I tell my kids all the time I 
did the best I could with the 

2981
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,200
information I was provided, with
what I understood about life at 

2982
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:24,800
that moment. 
Just because it wasn't the best 

2983
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:27,920
decision then doesn't as we look
back, doesn't mean I didn't 

2984
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,040
think it was the best decision 
at that moment, right? 

2985
02:22:30,040 --> 02:22:33,200
Because I, I have, I knew what I
had, but I enjoyed looking back 

2986
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:36,680
on that because it helps me to 
see who I am, you know, and, and

2987
02:22:36,680 --> 02:22:40,320
as I continue to grow, you know,
when I create new relationships,

2988
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:42,760
one day my kids will have kids 
or, you know, the lady I'm 

2989
02:22:42,760 --> 02:22:44,280
dating. 
Hopefully we get married one day

2990
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:47,480
and, and then we'll look back on
memories that we created, you 

2991
02:22:47,480 --> 02:22:48,960
know, and I'll be proud of 
those. 

2992
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:51,160
And, and, you know, of course 
one day there'll be a memory 

2993
02:22:51,160 --> 02:22:54,480
that will pop up of, of somebody
I dated and, and, and somebody 

2994
02:22:54,480 --> 02:22:56,720
I'm married to and maybe my 
ex-wife and they'll all be on 

2995
02:22:56,720 --> 02:22:58,080
the same day. 
But I look back and I'm like, 

2996
02:22:58,360 --> 02:23:01,600
thank you God for letting me 
come through those moments. 

2997
02:23:02,480 --> 02:23:05,160
And I think that that's a, I 
think it's something that's 

2998
02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:08,480
important for all of us. 
We can never forget where we 

2999
02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:11,120
came from. 
And that was yesterday or 10 

3000
02:23:11,120 --> 02:23:14,920
years ago or 40 years ago. 
That's where we came from, you 

3001
02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:19,200
know, And I hope that you you'd 
sit here today, you take what 

3002
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:22,480
you learned about that Lady who 
took you in her house, you know,

3003
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:26,520
and when you're 70, you take 
somebody in, you know, because 

3004
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:30,000
that's part of who you are. 
And that's, that's, that's part 

3005
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,080
of growing, you know. 
Yeah, maybe tonight you go home 

3006
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:35,720
and cook some macaroni and put 
some awful cheese on top of it. 

3007
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:41,040
Just now. 
And I can get you a Weiner, you 

3008
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:43,880
know, big red hot dog. 
Yeah. 

3009
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:47,440
Yeah, well, thank you for having
me. 

3010
02:23:47,560 --> 02:23:51,040
Yeah, thank you, Lou. 
And let's get Part 2 going. 

3011
02:23:51,080 --> 02:23:53,600
Yeah, it's just fun. 
And then I think, I think by 

3012
02:23:53,600 --> 02:23:57,120
then you'll be like, and now we 
have Lou Kaiser back for Part 2 

3013
02:23:57,120 --> 02:24:01,600
of his A Crazy Journey journey. 
If you look back, you remember I

3014
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:03,280
cried. 
I don't know if anything else 

3015
02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:04,960
happened. 
Yeah, I blacked out. 

3016
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:07,320
Yeah, get your popcorn ready, 
folks. 

3017
02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:10,120
I think, I think the intros, you
know, I think, I think what 

3018
02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:13,440
Brian was trying to say is, is 
your intro could be today. 

3019
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:15,960
I'm Leah and we're going to talk
to Lou Kaiser. 

3020
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:19,360
I have no idea what he's going 
to talk about, but here we go. 

3021
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:21,080
Yeah. 
Here it goes. 

3022
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:22,400
Dive right in. 
Yeah. 

3023
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:24,400
And I also might randomly cry. 
Yeah, we'll just. 

3024
02:24:24,400 --> 02:24:25,480
We'll just. 
Where's Beth? 

3025
02:24:25,880 --> 02:24:28,200
Yeah, Beth can just be. 
Do you remember when Tom Green 

3026
02:24:28,200 --> 02:24:30,600
started? 
Did you ever watch Tom Green? 

3027
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:31,720
Yeah. 
I mean, I remember who he was. 

3028
02:24:31,880 --> 02:24:34,000
Yeah, Yeah. 
He had Glen Helm plank in the 

3029
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,600
background and that was just 
like, he would just have a cup 

3030
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:37,840
of coffee and he would just be 
sitting there. 

3031
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:39,400
We'd just laugh. 
He just wouldn't participate. 

3032
02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:42,000
He would just sit there and, 
like, laugh in the background. 

3033
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:43,600
Yeah. 
So originally I told Brian I was

3034
02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:45,320
like, that's you should just do 
that. 

3035
02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:47,960
You don't like doing anything. 
You can just hang out in the 

3036
02:24:47,960 --> 02:24:51,000
back and just like laugh and, 
you know, drink some coffee or. 

3037
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,000
Something I love that, but 
absolutely. 

3038
02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:54,720
It'd be hilarious. 
That'll be Beth, and she'll be 

3039
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:55,760
like Leah. 
You need some. 

3040
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:58,160
Yeah, I got you. 
I got you, girl. 

3041
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:02,240
I got you girl. 
Hey, now, look, in July, Beth 

3042
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:04,960
has this amazing party every 
July. 

3043
02:25:05,240 --> 02:25:07,800
And so it's the weekend after 
the 4th. 

3044
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:09,440
OK, Y'all need to put that on 
your calendar. 

3045
02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:11,720
It's a Friday, Saturday and 
Sunday at her house. 

3046
02:25:11,720 --> 02:25:13,920
Like last year. 
There's like 150 people there. 

3047
02:25:13,960 --> 02:25:16,520
Wow. 
And we float the river and I 

3048
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:19,800
cook for everybody and there's a
band and, like, tents and chairs

3049
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:21,560
set up because she lives on the 
river. 

3050
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:23,040
Yeah. 
And I can't wait for this year. 

3051
02:25:23,160 --> 02:25:24,560
Nice. 
So you need to put it right now 

3052
02:25:24,560 --> 02:25:27,160
on your calendar the weekend 
after the 4th. 

3053
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:29,320
OK OK. 
People from all over the country

3054
02:25:29,320 --> 02:25:30,960
fly in for this event. 
Really. 

3055
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:34,160
And it's phenomenal. 
She gets T-shirts, hats, like it

3056
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:37,320
is the coolest thing, and then 
we just have a ball. 

3057
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:42,400
So imagine 100 floats tied 
together floating down the 

3058
02:25:42,400 --> 02:25:43,720
river. 
That's what we do. 

3059
02:25:44,120 --> 02:25:45,520
That's amazing. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

3060
02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:47,320
Good times, it's good times, all
right. 

3061
02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:50,160
All right, cool. 
Thank you. 

3062
02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:51,160
Thanks, Lou. 
All right. 

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