1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,160 City Post. Sup. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,200 We back at it again. Yeah, man, this is Hector and 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,079 I'm here with. Pastor Ricky, what's up 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,760 everybody? And you guys are doing good. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,760 Yeah, man, this is another episode of Build Equips and it 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,200 is the title of the podcast. But most importantly is the 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,880 mission of the church. Yes, yeah, man. 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,880 And today's topic is really cool, man. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,840 It's, it's, it's a good one in this conversation we've been 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,040 having lately about just just the work for the king, the work 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,160 for the killed, for the care. Kingdom. 12 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,440 Work for the Kingdom, There we go. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,480 It's so much, yeah. Man, and just like that, it 14 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:49,840 takes some work. There's going to be some slip 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,560 UPS. There's going to be. 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Some time twisters there's going. 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 To be, you know, a lot that comes with it, man. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:01,120 But I think in this topic, like you set a great quote to start 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,080 the conversation. And in that work, you know, what 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,320 we do and how we, you know, are wanting to build the Kingdom. 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Whose fame are you after? Exactly. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,200 You know, it's like we always talk about we're like, you know, 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,720 we want to know Jesus and make him known. 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 You know, we want to make the name of Jesus famous, but we 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,720 also are fighting our sinful nature, our flesh. 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,800 And sometimes we want a piece of that fame too. 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 I mean, it's, it's in our DNA, it's in our culture. 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,680 It's what everybody does. Like you want people to know 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,440 you, you want followers, You want people to like your post. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,960 You want people to share your post, You know, like you want to 31 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:43,520 be an influencer. So it's part of our human 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,640 nature. It's part of kind of like it's 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,320 ingrained in us. The problem is, is that when 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,800 when it belongs to the Lord, we want to kind of get in on that 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,880 cloud. And, and that's not how this 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,240 works. You know, it's all about Jesus. 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,240 It all belongs to him and it's not about us. 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Man, it's so good. Bro. 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,840 So as someone who is a creative, you know, who wants to create 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,440 content to help push the gospel out and you know how how do how? 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,400 What's your advice for someone trying to navigate that world 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,000 like? Man, I, I think that now, don't 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,520 get me wrong, don't hear me saying not to get things out, 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 not to post things. That's not what I'm saying. 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,760 I think a lot of it has to do with the intention of our heart, 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,240 like the motives of our heart, because I think it's actually 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,760 wise to have like a strategic plan, you know, a marketing 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,480 scheme, a schedule for getting things out. 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Like there's times to post things where you're going to 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,200 like, where people are going to see it and like it the most. 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,080 And there's times where it's a bad idea. 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,920 But the motive needs to be this is to serve my Lord. 53 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:54,800 This is to get the name of Jesus out to get the gospel out. 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,400 So I think as a creative two things come to my mind. 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Mine is to to be organized, like have a plan. 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Don't don't just like wing it, which I think a lot of people 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,680 do, you know, they're like, oh, it's organic. 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 I'm like, no, that's code for I don't have a plan. 59 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,960 And then #2 it's, I think maybe like pray before you send 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,720 something out, like ask the Lord to use it. 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Like Lord, let your name be glorified, not mine. 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Use this for your glory. Use this for your will. 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,920 Let people know who you are for this. 64 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:28,520 And, and I, it's almost like giving God an offering that's 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,000 acceptable to him. And I think as a creative, you 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,960 should, you should view your work that way because really 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,720 when it comes down to offerings, it's not the item, it's the 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,040 heart behind the item. And let's ask Cain and Abel 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,280 that, you know, so I've been in, I've been in Genesis that like, 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,040 like Cain brought an offering to the Lord that was not 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 acceptable. And Abel brought what the Lord 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,480 asked, and Cain got mad and killed his brother, you know, So 73 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,520 it, so it's, it's really the heart behind it, you know, 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,320 what's it for? Who's it for? 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,400 And I think that's what we got to ask ourselves. 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,320 Oh, man, that's that's hearing you say that triggers a memory 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,600 and like this kind of emotional moment I had listening to 78 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,920 worship music, man. It's the house fires and I think 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Asia Wilson Asia. I don't remember her name, but 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,560 something in that is like if I can be anything, I want to be an 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,600 offering holy and acceptable to you, Lord. 82 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,840 Like that just kind of hit me back and took me back there, 83 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:31,640 bro. But but that's so good as far as 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,160 you know, who are we doing this for? 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,280 Like I'll speak from the eye perspective, who I am doing this 86 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:41,120 for, you know, in creating content and utilizing these 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,880 gifts and these talents and these passions that the Lord has 88 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,680 given me is like back to that title question is, whose fame am 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,680 I after? Right. 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 And even myself as a pastor, like when I, when I look at the 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,720 space that was made that the createspace, it's not to like 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,600 flex as a church, you know, like, Hey, our church has a room 93 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,760 where we could do all this cool stuff in. 94 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,120 It's not it, it was, it was like almost, it was a kind of like a 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:13,440 vision from God creating an area and a space that that people can 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,000 use to serve him better. And then then you have to also 97 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 think about growth, You know, like I think about growth all 98 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,680 the time. Let's say, let's just two or 99 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,920 three years from now, we end up having two services, you know, 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,800 like so as a, as a worship team, you can't do the same thing and 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,880 expect different results. And if growth happens that big, 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,320 you need an area to go and practice before the service. 103 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,040 You're not going to be able to hang out here till the service 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,720 starts again. It's going to be too early 105 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,640 unless you want to get up here that early. 106 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,800 That's fine. But so creating almost like an 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,280 area where you could run through some songs, you could get 108 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,320 creative with it. You don't have to, you know, 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,320 like it gives you room to work on things. 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,120 But we have to change our our mentality, you know, because 111 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,960 it's too easy. Yeah, I get it. 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,160 I'm just going to go turn some stuff on and, and plug and play. 113 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,480 We'll have that same energy and use that in a better space with 114 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,840 a better setting for creativity, you know, and that's going to 115 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:21,320 help stimulate growth. So I'm, I'm thinking about like 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,200 progressing and it's not the, the growth of the church, it's 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,400 the growth of the name of Jesus. You know, like the more people 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,440 come here, the more people going to know Christ, be discipled, he 119 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,520 hears word, families, generations are going to change. 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Like so the movement of the church, the things that we're 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,040 doing, it's not just like I'm bored or I got an idea. 122 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 No, it's it's all part of God's bigger picture. 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Man, that's huge, bro. And like hearing that kind of 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,000 turned me up a little bit because I think back to 125 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,560 something you said to our sermon last week is like, bro, through 126 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,440 showing up that intentionally is how chains are broken, how 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,360 generational forces are broken. That's right. 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,000 That's that's huge, bro. And I think that's a, you know, 129 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,000 sets up a a great question to to why is showing up so 130 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,760 intentionally network worth it? Yeah, it's, it's, it's worth it. 131 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,520 You know, like I was at a kind of a meeting on Thursday with 132 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,000 other pastors and the speaker said that like, it's hard, man. 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Let's just be real. Like being a pastor is 134 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,800 difficult. And sometimes we ask ourselves, 135 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,200 is it worth it? You know, like, is this worth 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,880 it? Is all this like headache and 137 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,160 drama sometimes and, and heartache and, and people 138 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,360 talking like, is all that worth it? 139 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,720 And the answer is yes. Like it's easy. 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,960 It's worth it because Christ. And, and to get to that point 141 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,720 where one day, you know, I get to just go be with him and spend 142 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 all eternity with Jesus and the brothers that I've been in the 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,160 trenches with and their families and my families and like, yes, 144 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,040 man, it's, it's all worth this. It's worth missing things, you 145 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,760 know. That's good, bro. 146 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,960 So my, my follow up question to that is for you specifically, 147 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,360 you know, in those struggles of questioning, you know, with all 148 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,000 the stuff that come with, if it's worth it, what's your 149 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,720 motive behind showing up every Sunday or you know, like last we 150 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,920 get to show up with the Wi-Fi going down? 151 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,560 What are your motives? Behind showing up. 152 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Man, I think 1 is personal, then one is kind of like for 153 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,960 everybody. Personally, I love church. 154 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,799 I love it. I love worshipping here. 155 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:42,919 I love the people here. You know, I always ask myself 156 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,840 like, if I wasn't the pastor, would I come to this church? 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,560 Would my family come to this church? 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,840 And the answer is yes. Like the way that I see like the 159 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,400 kids being taught the worship, like the teaching of the 160 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,280 scripture. So I have to kind of like 161 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,720 reverse roles a little bit. And I just love this. 162 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,640 I love being here. I love worshiping here. 163 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,760 I love, I love, like, I just love it. 164 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:14,920 So that's motive #1 but then motive #2 is, is the weight that 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,680 preaching carries because it's not just winging some message 166 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:25,400 like like God would. The Holy Spirit will not leave 167 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,480 me alone if I winged something like it's a it's a wrestling, 168 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,760 like it is a fight every week because of that, because of like 169 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,080 the time and everything it takes to put a sermon together. 170 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,120 Like I'm, I come on Sunday pregnant, you know, like I'm, 171 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,080 I'm ready to pop this thing out on us to explain it. 172 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Like, like I wake up on Sunday with like a holy expectation of 173 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,120 I'm excited to reveal what the Lord revealed to me, you know, 174 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,960 and whether it goes bad or good. I got a lot out of it. 175 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,200 So selfishly, it's like if you didn't get it too bad or if you 176 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,240 fell asleep, I don't honestly, I don't care. 177 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,840 I hope you had a good nap. But me personally, like man, 178 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,440 like God revealed this amazing revelation and truth in his 179 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,160 word, like I can't wait to get this thing out. 180 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,960 So that that's kind of another motivation for me to be here. 181 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Man, bro, that's, that's awesome and how to be super real, bro, 182 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,600 as someone who's benefited from how intentionally you prepare 183 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,400 and you know, in our personal friendship, you being honest 184 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,680 with me and let me into what the Lord looks like and how 185 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:39,760 intentionally you're in prayer and, and things like that, bro, 186 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Like we, we're talking about this a little bit before we 187 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,800 started recording, bro, but our first Wednesday this past week. 188 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Oh man. Bro like I don't even have words 189 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,440 and if y'all missed it I'm sorry y'all missed out on a good one 190 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,960 bro just cause like the the lesson behind what's the word. 191 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,480 Oh, butcher, intercessory prayers. 192 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Intercessory prayers, bro. Like it's bearing so much fruit 193 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 in our church, bro. It's bearing so much fruit in 194 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,960 our relationships. For me personally, I won't speak 195 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,360 for anybody else, but in my relationship with my brothers 196 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,880 that I'm walking with here and my relationship with my sister, 197 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,560 you know, and, and her being a part of this church too, Bros, 198 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:23,280 like, I just want to take that time to say thank you again, 199 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:30,080 bro, because how intentionally you prepare is like why I think 200 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,360 God is elevating city post the way it has been and like the 201 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,680 growth that we've had here as of late, bro, he just been moving. 202 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,680 No, man, and here's what's even like crazier because if you, 203 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,880 when you plan for some, I know that there's like people that 204 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,560 say, oh, you could use AI, you know, the, the prepared Bible 205 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:49,040 studies. Like I've had people tell me 206 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,960 that that that's what they've done for lessons or whatever. 207 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,200 But man, you missed. Don't get me wrong, it's a great 208 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,960 tool, but you miss like that personal the. 209 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Intimacy. Connection with God and 210 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,000 presenting something. And what's even funnier is on 211 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Wednesday do like I was at work and I had all these printouts, 212 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,160 you know, and I forgot them. Like it was such a bananas of a 213 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,520 day. Like I just tried to speed to 214 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,200 get here early and just calm my mind and just get my soul and my 215 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,080 heart ready for the service. And I forgot the handouts for 216 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,520 everybody. So not a big deal, man. 217 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,680 Just took some paper like, you know, like I and I remembered 218 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,200 everything. So I was like, cool, yeah, I 219 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,040 just wrote some stuff out in the Sharpie marker, like, and it 220 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 worked like it was fine. Like we still had the text, We 221 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,520 still had everything we needed. But just because we didn't have 222 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Wi-Fi or we, you know, I forgot some handout. 223 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,400 It didn't ruin anything. It just you, you keep going. 224 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,480 And I will say, man, it was fruitful, man. 225 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,200 I I loved it. It was just, it was a rich time. 226 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,320 That's the best way I could explain it. 227 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Yeah, bro, it was and, and to that point where like you're 228 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 saying, you you forgot the handouts because, you know, it 229 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,680 was just kind of a a day, a rough day at the office, you 230 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,680 know, rushing to get here and trying to get things like God 231 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,840 even uses and blesses that. Man, that's true. 232 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,400 Like, so you know something, I was similar situation. 233 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,320 It was a rough day Wednesday, I had stuff I needed to do 234 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,080 afterwards. So I was rushing out of here. 235 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,960 So I forgot my Bible here, you know, and Rach gave it to me 236 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,640 earlier and like it's something that I forgot about. 237 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 But in that time of, you know, this group together, I still had 238 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,800 the note of writing out the prayers and what people were 239 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160 asking for. So like that, that little 240 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,720 reminder was like Lord, like this time has been so fruitful, 241 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,200 but also like the people that I've been tasked and assigned 242 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,640 with praying for and specific, like reminders of what those 243 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,960 things are, bro, 'cause God even used that. 244 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,040 That's right, you know. What I mean? 245 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,280 So that was just a cool, my bad little little sidetrack. 246 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,680 There no I feel your bad it happens sometimes and you know 247 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,560 and sometimes it's like maybe we didn't need it maybe like it was 248 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,840 it was like a piece of it's good that you forgot it but it might 249 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,120 have gotten in the way of what God was gonna do or what he did 250 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,320 but yeah but all that to say it was like it was still so fresh 251 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,600 on my mind but just praying like OK Lord like what's next like 252 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,920 we're going through prayer this year. 253 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,720 What is it that you want the church to know about? 254 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Like what is it that you know? And those, those are the 255 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,320 questions I asked. So it's not like what what can I 256 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,080 got? What do I got? 257 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Right. Well, you weren't just winging 258 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,440 it like. Yeah, like let me just Google 259 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,440 prayer Bible studies, like Nah, bro, that doesn't work. 260 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,840 So it's just asking the Lord like God, like, what is it? 261 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,640 What do you want to show your church you know? 262 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Bro, that's so intentional and like God uses that and like your 263 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,680 heart has been so locked in with him in that your personal prayer 264 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,360 time and in the preparation is like, what do you want me to 265 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,440 share with your church? What do you want me to share 266 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,280 with your children? And again, the conversations 267 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,760 I've had with some brothers, like how intentional that was 268 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,720 showing up, like what we did this past Wednesday's. 269 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,960 God's presence was undeniable, bro. 100% like learning more and 270 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,920 more of is man, you could, you could do all these things. 271 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,960 Like I know we, we started this with like, is it for your fame 272 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,280 or is it for his? And what I've noticed is like 273 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,360 when it's for your fame, his presence is not there. 274 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,480 Like it's almost like Romans one. 275 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,720 It's like, OK, you want to do it for you have at it. 276 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,560 And he just bows out like he doesn't, he doesn't show up. 277 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,440 And it's, it's God's wrath on you and your pride. 278 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 You know, and I'll be honest, man, like I've been to 279 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,440 conferences, I've been to, I've been to worship services where 280 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:50,080 it was like that was nice. Like there was no, no presence 281 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 involved. Like, like you, just you sense 282 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,320 the heart behind it and you're just like, Nah, this, this 283 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 saying is there something is missing? 284 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,720 Like I'm glad y'all are on point. 285 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,360 I'm glad y'all look great. I'm glad that it sounds awesome. 286 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Something is off, you know, and and and then but I always, I 287 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,600 always ask like, is it me? Like do I have sin in my life 288 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,600 that is causing a division or and then after that I asked the 289 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,240 Lord, I was like, or is it something in this room? 290 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,200 Like is it, is there something going on here? 291 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,760 You know, so that's a whole nother. 292 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Yeah, that's a whole nother conversation, a whole nother 293 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 part and whole discernment, all that. 294 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,520 Yeah, man. But but you you bring up Romans 295 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,240 1 so that that topic of you know, our heart and how we show 296 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 up in our works or just our lives for the Lord. 297 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Like what does Scripture say about that? 298 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Man, that's I love for me I love Exodus, Exodus 33 because Exodus 299 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,599 33 is a great example. Like Moses pleads God for this 300 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:10,359 verse 15 through 17, it says, Then Moses said to him, If your 301 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,920 presence does not go with us, do not send us up from here. 302 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,119 How will anyone know that you are pleased with me and with 303 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,839 your people unless you go with us? 304 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,800 What else will distinguish me and your people from all the 305 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,319 other people on the face of the earth? 306 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,760 And the Lord said to Moses, I will do the very thing you have 307 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:38,360 asked because I am pleased with you and I know you by name, bro, 308 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,960 that is great. How else are you going to what 309 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,360 separates talent, You know, like what separates worship leaders, 310 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:48,680 what separates? The thing that separates is the 311 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,920 anointing and the anointing comes from from the Lord. 312 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,840 So if God is not with you as you are creating or you're singing 313 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,280 or you're playing, it's going to be evident you're going to be 314 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,720 like everybody else. Like I've seen guys lead worship 315 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,520 who Can't Sing well, but wreck the room. 316 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,120 Why? Because their heart is aligned 317 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:12,760 with what the Lord is man and and his presence separates it 318 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,040 man. And that's something I think 319 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:21,600 that's why when we talk about like working for the Lord and we 320 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,000 talk about doing some great things for the Lord, we do it 321 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,320 because we want, we want to please him, not for him to 322 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,040 please us. You know, like we're not doing 323 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,600 it for like, if I do this, I'll get brownie points. 324 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,720 It's I'm doing this because I want to please my God. 325 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,520 But I love that. It's like, what? 326 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,280 How else will we be distinguished? 327 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Jeez. I. 328 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,880 Love that person. Yeah. 329 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,320 So what's the flip side of that? You know, that's like how we're 330 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,920 distinguished how like in serving. 331 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,200 Well, what? What is? 332 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,000 What's the flip side? Of I think the flip side is it's 333 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,400 like we're going to go even if, if it's without you, because we 334 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,680 think it's what's best and we're going to do the best we can with 335 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,680 what we have. And it's not going to be 336 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:14,480 fruitful because God's presence is not out there, you know, so 337 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,960 it's going to be mediocre. It's going to and then and then 338 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,840 people, something I've noticed, and this is just an opinion and 339 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 a preference. So don't quote me on this, but 340 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:30,200 I've noticed like when when the Lord is a a part of like a word 341 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,960 like a sermon or a service, people say things like man, I 342 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,920 God showed me or I didn't know this about the word or I learned 343 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 this today or man that was awesome. 344 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,440 That was powerful. When it's not when he's not a 345 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,000 part of the conversation, it's man like that was I wish it was 346 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,440 louder. I was boring. 347 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,440 I was falling asleep, I was distracted. 348 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,920 Why did they play that chord? Why did he do this with that 349 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,600 like every it's like the the attention to detail is not about 350 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,720 the Lord. It's about. 351 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,880 Everything else. Right, like critiques. 352 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Yeah, it's like it didn't. So just because like the Lord, 353 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,600 you know, like the Lord was not part of it, or maybe like you 354 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,320 don't understand, you know. So it's. 355 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,960 That's what I've noticed. Right. 356 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,720 Yeah, it becomes more like it it. 357 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,400 Becomes more of an advance instead of like a gathering for 358 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,000 the Lord, right? It's now just like a a gathering 359 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,040 for people. Right. 360 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,480 And it's like back to that, that first question is, is for the 361 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,400 personal fame rather than the fame of Jesus you. 362 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,120 Know. Yes, yeah. 363 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,880 Yeah, man, that's. And then if you think about 364 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:51,280 like, OK, think about access, we, we, we think of like, OK, I 365 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,560 want, if I, if I want to become, I want to go viral or I want 366 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,160 followers. I want people to like me. 367 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,520 You could pay money on Instagram to get followers. 368 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,200 Thanks. That's not hard. 369 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,160 You could, you could send out messages, you could have people 370 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,600 share it. Like dude, I could, I could 371 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,800 send, I could text my friends and say, hey, can you share this 372 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,560 on your posting please? I mean, we do this for work with 373 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,720 elected officials. You could pay companies to post 374 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,680 something. But God is the one who controls, 375 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 who sees it. And if you allow the Lord, yes, 376 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,560 you might get five hits, but one of those hits might be someone 377 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,280 who God is is moving to see it. And and that someone is 378 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,640 somebody. So that's the difference between 379 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,880 relying on people versus relying on God. 380 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,320 Oh, that's. So good, bro. 381 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Oh, that's so good. And that's something like 382 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,840 earlier this week, you know, and specifically in that creating 383 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,040 content, you know, and pushing things out and wanted to do it 384 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,840 for the Lord, bro. And it's like, you know, wanting 385 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:02,120 to do it to not gain things here like gain followers, gain money, 386 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:06,080 get anything like that. But it's to put a spotlight on 387 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,480 him. And to be completely real. 388 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,160 My gain is going to be in heaven. 389 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,440 Mine is going to be like laying treasures in heaven and trying 390 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,480 to to point people in Ambrose. So it's just you saying that 391 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,440 reminded me. Yeah, man. 392 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,920 And then also when you get caught up in God's glory, you, 393 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,400 you get some of that shine on you, You know what I mean? 394 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,960 And I think that's where favor comes in. 395 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,640 Because if you're serving the Lord, if everything's about him, 396 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:35,760 then God is going to put you in other positions for more access 397 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:41,160 and capacity and capacity and for like bigger people to get 398 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,800 closer to you, not because of your talent, but because of his 399 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,320 faithfulness. And so he's like, man, here's, 400 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,080 here's a servant of the Lord. I'm, I'm, I'm watching over him. 401 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,160 So I'm going to move you into all these other positions, you 402 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,360 know, so you can continue to serve me. 403 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,560 But now it's going to be at a bigger level. 404 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Man, I hear that and I think of yes, Lord, please, in Jesus 405 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,360 name, you know, if that's what you have for me. 406 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:15,400 But my concern is along that path, How do I stay out of the 407 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,800 trap of falling into my pride and thinking I did? 408 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,960 It no, no, you know, and that's the thing it's, it's always 409 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,240 going back. It's always going back. 410 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,280 I think it's preaching the gospel to yourself. 411 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,840 And then it's it's walking in humility because the truth is 412 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,600 everything I have is not mine. If I look at my life, it makes 413 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,760 no sense. And and I know we talked about 414 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:42,000 this in the past, but everything in my life was a launching pad 415 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,560 of the passions that that the Lord has ignited inside of me. 416 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,800 So like working with the city, but then at the same time 417 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,040 serving at my church, surf, Fort Worth, the Blue Zones project, 418 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,000 community hope. I mean, like it just all 419 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,720 snowballing, like it just moves from you stay faithful in one 420 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,440 thing. It just keeps going, you know, 421 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:08,160 So but I think it's it's staying humble, staying faithful and 422 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,040 then always like, OK, Lord, like asking the Lord. 423 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,400 All right, Lord, what do you have for like, what's going on? 424 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,400 What do you have for me? Yeah. 425 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,920 Here that's convicting bro like to be super real and we talked 426 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,160 about this a little bit before recording man, but that's 427 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,840 something that the Lord convicted me in last Friday in a 428 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,880 Bible study I was doing with my brother Jared and my nephew 429 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,200 Nicholas. You know something we've been 430 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,560 doing over a few weeks been going through the book of kings 431 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,400 and to be even more real is you know in that same time period, 432 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,920 you know what I do with the reels and you know filming stuff 433 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,480 like that is like the Holy Spirit convicted me. 434 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200 You haven't been giving me your best, you know, So it's like 435 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,640 hearing that is the humility aspect of doing it for the Lord 436 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,120 'cause I feel like to, to check a list, like man, I got to do 437 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,840 this stuff right, you know, like there was no joy in it, you 438 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,000 know, And then the other aspect being like shifting gears and 439 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,720 like Lord, you've blessed me with this ability. 440 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,680 You've blessed me with these resources. 441 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,640 You've blessed me with, you know, how you knit me together 442 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,160 in my mother's womb. And I want to utilize all that 443 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,840 to bring you glory, not me. You deserve my bed, right man? 444 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,120 So. But I think that's a, that's, 445 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,600 that's the proper step because I don't even think people get to 446 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,920 that step. I think people just get into 447 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,080 something and then they think it's all about them. 448 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Like I got to build it. I got to do this, I got to make 449 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600 it work. And because God's grace and his 450 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:37,800 mercy, you know, he humbles us, you know, like, and that's what 451 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,560 I think happens. I think he humbles us in love. 452 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,920 Remember the Bible says the Lord disciplines those he loves and 453 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,320 and then it's then it's you have new mercies every day. 454 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,200 You know what lamentations say and, and you just got to keep 455 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,120 going. But I think for some of us, 456 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:02,280 because of our habits or our motives, we build a ceiling for 457 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,400 ourselves. So the Lord is like, man, I have 458 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,400 so much more for you. I have so much more for you, but 459 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,720 you're limiting yourself because you're not trusting me with it. 460 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,920 And then it's like, no, I do trust you with it. 461 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:20,160 And then the guys like, no, you, you don't because you say you 462 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,960 trust me with it. But the work you're putting 463 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280 behind it is saying something totally different. 464 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,880 That's good, bro. That's good. 465 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,000 That convicted hit hit me right in the conviction. 466 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,640 Right there with that one, bro. Yeah, it's like when you say 467 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,280 that is, is like you're saying you, you say you, you trust me 468 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,360 with your boobs, but where your actions like men kill that 469 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:46,000 noise. Not there yet, right yet yes, 470 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,680 like you're saying it, I ain't seeing it and and there's 22 471 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,560 totally different things, even even me personally, just to be 472 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320 honest, like I know we talked about this, but the beginning of 473 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:04,280 the year I was convicted and being in my preaching, like I 474 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960 felt like I could do better, like I was preparing. 475 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,960 I was but, but I was trying to be more like, I'm not going to 476 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,880 say entertaining, but I was thinking too much on keeping 477 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,360 people's attention. A. 478 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Little more charismatic. Yes, I was thinking a little bit 479 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,880 too much. And and then when when this new 480 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,760 year hit, I was like, I need to spend more time in preparation. 481 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Come on, like so more time and like getting in the word 482 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,840 studying, you know, like forget about the time. 483 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Like the humble work? Yeah, just the humble work. 484 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,680 Who cares what anybody else says. 485 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,080 They like it or not. Hey, there's thousands of other 486 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,960 churches you can go to if you don't like it. 487 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,000 But me personally, I was like, I got to focus more on my 488 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,200 relationship with the Christ and then my my time. 489 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,280 And in that skill set, you know, preparing in and out of season, 490 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,200 you know, like the Bible says, I'm tired, have a crazy it don't 491 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,280 matter and get that thing going. Yeah. 492 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,400 That's so good, bro. That's something you you said 493 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,000 previously like before that statement of, you know, visually 494 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,360 sometimes we just like you say that, but we got to see the 495 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:17,520 work. That comes in. 496 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,760 I'm a very visual learner, you know, so that's something I'm 497 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,920 super thankful for and how intentional God has been with 498 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,800 the men of God that he's placed around me like you and how you 499 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800 prepare for the sermons and seeing the work behind his 500 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,560 podcast and seeing all the stuff you're doing behind the scenes 501 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,200 just to keep these doors open, bro. 502 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,040 And then, you know, when about a month ago, like 2 months ago, 503 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680 maybe Steven really taking some time to sit down with me and 504 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840 prepare for, to lead our men's Bible study, like really seeing 505 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,080 that work. And then the example that came 506 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,960 up yesterday and applying the things I've learned from you and 507 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,240 applying the things I've learned from Steven and being real with 508 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,960 my nephew and my brother last week that, you know, I haven't 509 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,320 been giving this my best in our Bible study is like, yeah, but 510 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,640 in that in that preparation and being humble, like being real 511 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,360 with things like man, you don't have it together. 512 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,680 But I'm trying to do this for the Lord and for. 513 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,640 Y'all exactly. The example that came to mind is 514 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,600 your dad. Yes, you know, and and Mr. 515 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Robert and how he just shows up so intentionally in the small 516 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,560 things for our church and making sure it's clean, making sure 517 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,120 it's organized, making sure like, just the atmosphere that's 518 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,240 set before anybody walks in here and how he treats that humble 519 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,320 work so sacredly. Yes. 520 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Yeah, Man, that's just a powerful example, brother. 521 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Shout out, Mr. Robert. Yeah, no, I, I agree. 522 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,280 And and, and I know after hearing the last part, he was 523 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,440 like, how much do it offer the Lord and this and that, But even 524 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,680 growing up like that was something that we always heard. 525 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,600 It's like you don't go halfway with the things of God. 526 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,280 Like it, it's not about. So even my mom, you know, my mom 527 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,480 is a master teacher. Like I, I get a lot from her 528 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,440 growing up in that like she used to travel the state of Texas 529 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,760 teaching youth leaders how to do Sunday school. 530 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Like like that's what her and her thing was you prepare 531 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,200 whether it's three people or 30 or 300 the same way. 532 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,600 So knowing that I'm only going to have five students in my 533 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,440 Sunday school class, I'm going to prepare like it is the last 534 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,880 thing that they hear, you know, like and that was the vibe. 535 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,600 Like that is that's the method. And even like from the get go of 536 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,000 City Post, there were Sundays where I knew there was only 537 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680 going to be like 8 people in that gym because every people 538 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,800 out of town sick. Whatever you prepare man COVID. 539 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,680 Man. Bro, like preach into a camera 540 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,480 for months. It didn't matter. 541 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,440 Like I knew like God was going to use it, you know, and God 542 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,840 used that season to work things out in my life through it. 543 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,640 So you prepare and it's not for you, it's for the Lord. 544 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,320 It's like I'm doing this for God. 545 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,880 So I'm bringing my best every single time. 546 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,560 And I know we talked about this because I think that the our 547 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,600 culture says opposite, you know? Real quick, man, that that means 548 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,080 a perfect segue into a segment. I want to start for the podcast, 549 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,240 man. And that that segment called my 550 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,680 pastor got bars. Hey, what you're saying is like 551 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,320 that that conversation of what? Yeah, but it's facts though. 552 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Like it's like what you're saying how what our society 553 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,920 pushes, you know, and we talked about that a little bit before 554 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,240 recording those four deadly words. 555 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,640 So today's topic for this brand, you saved me to the podcast, My 556 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,200 pastor got bars is those four deadly words. 557 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,960 So go for. It it's not that serious. 558 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,080 Which is 1 like you said our society is like poisoning us 559 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,000 with is like those 4 words. Think about that, how that 560 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,120 shifts things if it's not that serious. 561 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Man, I hear it so much where it's like it's not that serious 562 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:20,800 or it's not that deep or like I hear that so much and, and in my 563 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,520 mind I'm like, well, it, it kind of is, especially if it's for 564 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Christ, like the fact that you didn't prepare for the Lord, It 565 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880 is that serious. I don't care if it's only like 566 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,840 10 people and your mama's one of them. 567 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920 Like it doesn't matter. Like it's, it's, you always have 568 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,720 to prepare the best you can. But if you have a culture that 569 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,920 pushes back on preparation, hard work, you know, I told you I was 570 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,560 like, I feel like there's people that work so hard not to work 571 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,720 hard bro. Like y'all will find everything 572 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240 and anything just not to bust a sweat. 573 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,320 And like there's a chair that needs to be moved. 574 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600 Oh man, I can't make it or like it. 575 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,720 It's, it's like, man, it's crazy, man. 576 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,560 And we have a culture that we're taught to just do the bare 577 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,920 minimum, you know, and if you're asked to do anymore and you 578 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,440 don't want to be compensated for it, then forget it. 579 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040 And that's not how this thing works, you know? 580 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Man that's so good bro and it's again hit me right in the 581 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,080 conviction. Like, OK, so it's like, yeah, 582 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920 they're asking me to do this, man, but I'm not going to be 583 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,040 paid for it. You don't see what's on the 584 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,000 other side of that. You don't see the opportunities, 585 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040 you don't see the job offers, you don't see the person you're 586 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,960 tripping over 100 bucks and you don't see the future and what 587 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,120 God could be potentially, potentially giving you just 588 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,600 because you don't want to work extra. 589 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,000 You know, like it, it's it's crazy to me, you know, and I 590 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,640 just see it differently. Like I've, I know, like when 591 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,280 when I was in my Community Center days, like I'm just going 592 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,920 to, I'll give you one good example that, and this is 593 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,920 followed me when I was in my Community Center days, man, I 594 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,440 was at Rosemont. There was a big competition 595 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,840 where like the kids made these boats out of cardboard and tape 596 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,840 and then painted them. We did it with our kids. 597 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,400 Something happened where like the day of hurricane harbor 598 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,960 closed like something happened where they cancelled the events 599 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040 and I was like man I had these kids bro. 600 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,360 So I called my mom and dad and I was like can we use your pool? 601 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,120 No so I have a picture of it and yes. 602 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,159 And it was on on a weekend. I was not getting paid for it 603 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,960 because I was an hourly employee. 604 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,920 Didn't care man. Went to my parents pool 3-4 605 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,480 hours. Ordered some pizza. 606 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,880 Few boats sank but there was one that rocked. 607 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,360 It had a great time. What was on the other side of 608 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,320 that was my programmer position, you know, because I was able to 609 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,760 bring that to an interview. Like there's things on the other 610 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,960 side that if our laziness takes over, it's going to be 611 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,720 preventing you. And that's why I say like 612 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,840 you're, you're going to have a ceiling on your life. 613 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,280 Now, some people are cool with it, like some people are cool 614 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,440 living basic. But I think man, like when you 615 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,280 have the Holy Spirit and God put something in you, you're not 616 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,960 cool with being basic, right? Like it's not going to allow you 617 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,480 to sleep. Man, bro, that's so real, that's 618 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,360 so good. And again, right back in the 619 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,440 conviction, because I think of, you know, the season I am with, 620 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,520 with this new job, you know, and all the extra stuff I like and 621 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,680 that's something that ain't in my job description, right? 622 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,280 I don't get paid for that. Like that's that's not my role. 623 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000 You know what I mean? Like thinking of those and and 624 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,720 thinking back to a conversation, something you said is like, man, 625 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,760 is God using that. What I don't see on the other 626 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,880 side of that is God using it to expand my ability, right? 627 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,800 You know, and preparing for whatever's coming next in that 628 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440 expansion process, bro, because it's uncomfortable. 629 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,160 It's worth, it's like, I like I got to get some stuff refined 630 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,000 out of me is usually some frustration. 631 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920 But man, like you saying that took me back to that thought. 632 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640 No, because like there's a difference between taking being 633 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,720 taken advantage of and a difference in like being given 634 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:23,240 opportunities. And I mean, it's, it's evident. 635 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,440 It's, it's evident. But when there's something 636 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,080 that's like a big project or an opportunity to connect with 637 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,960 people or work with like somebody on a higher level, why 638 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,360 wouldn't I take that? Because I don't want to work, 639 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,960 you know, like that's so dumb to me. 640 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,040 And, and, and I just think about like, there's people that have 641 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,040 these goals and dreams, you know, and visions, especially in 642 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,720 our creative space. And it's like, yeah, but you're 643 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,840 not willing to do the work. You're not willing to put any 644 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960 more in. Like you're happy just chilling. 645 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,280 Man hearing, hearing all that and your Holy Spirit just 646 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,680 stepping on my neck today, but it's refusing to serve well and 647 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,240 refusing to do it for the Lord, bro, because it's not in my job 648 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,560 description, because it's not because I don't want to deal 649 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,120 with the latest dogs or, or these chickens or whatever. 650 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,880 You know the the situation may be bro, but man, that's that's a 651 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,240 good. Word and it's like what we we 652 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,080 talked about like yeah, those are four deadly words. 653 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,640 Like it's not that serious. But then God hits you with some 654 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680 words too. My presence ain't there like. 655 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,240 I told you I'm my pastor. It's like, fine, it ain't that 656 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,200 serious. Cool. 657 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,000 I'm not going to be a part of it because your heart's not there 658 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,520 and your heart's not right. So like, and I, I believe man, 659 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,240 like I believe all heart God honors when you prepare well, 660 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,160 like God honors it, man, like God will will take that to the 661 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,440 next level. Like he'll take it to places 662 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,040 that you can't get there, can't even fathom, dude. 663 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,760 And when you prepare well and when you're like, OK, Lord, this 664 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,000 is for you, man. The Lord honors that. 665 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560 It's such a mighty way and. That's why we try to make Jesus 666 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,840 famous. That's right. 667 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,200 We want his name out there. Yeah, if it ain't Jesus, then 668 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,120 none of this is worth it. That part, you know? 669 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,760 Then why do it? It's a waste of time. 670 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,200 You know It has to be about Christ. 671 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:31,320 Right. And then that reminder of doing 672 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,840 it for Christ. He deserves my best. 673 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,840 Exactly. Even when I'm tired. 674 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,560 Yeah. Even when I'm frustrated. 675 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,200 Even when I want to go like he deserves my best because he 676 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,200 showed up time and time and time and time again for me. 677 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,280 Bro exactly exactly. He's the king man. 678 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:57,080 Like we have got to change our perspective on like our 679 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,840 relationship with Christ. And going through the sermon 680 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,080 series, the gospel, I've learned so much. 681 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,280 Like there's been such a refreshing in my spirit with 682 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,560 understanding who God is, understanding our relationship 683 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,520 for sin, how jacked up we are, like how we deserve death. 684 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,040 We don't deserve nothing, man, and God, in his great mercy and 685 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,360 love, has given us a way out through Jesus and the way that 686 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200 he's changed my life. Everything I have belongs to 687 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560 him. So yes, my life is a living 688 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,440 sacrifice. You know, I had a friend of mine 689 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,360 there. There's some, they're great 690 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:43,040 friends of ours, but they made a comment one day and they were 691 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,240 like, you know, I just don't want my life to be all about 692 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,920 church. I don't want everything to be 693 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,280 about church. But I also flipped it and I was 694 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,800 like, I could say that about anything. 695 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,720 I don't want my life to be about youth sports. 696 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:56,400 I don't want my life to be about school. 697 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,200 I don't want my life to be about my kids. 698 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160 I don't want my, I mean like go down the line and it's like no 699 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480 like. And you're right, I don't want 700 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080 my life to be all about church either. 701 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,680 I want my life to be all about Him. 702 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,120 And because I made my life all about to be about him, he's 703 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,880 like, this is what I want you to do. 704 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,360 So I take my marching orders from Christ, not from society or 705 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,600 what I want. If it was what I wanted, I'd be 706 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,840 doing something totally different. 707 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520 I mean, I'd be gone every weekend if it was up to me, you 708 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,880 know? But this is what the Lord has 709 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,080 asked of my life. Unequivocal yes. 710 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,400 Amen man. Well, thank you bro for serving 711 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,320 well. No, I appreciate that. 712 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Yeah, bro you you've you've grown so much in just a short 713 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,520 time that I've known you in grown in a man that's good grown 714 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,520 is a pastor as a teacher, as a communicator, as a father, as a 715 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,360 husband like bro, thank you. And that's, that's bearing a lot 716 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,680 of fruit of that relationship you have with the Lord and being 717 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,640 locked in with him and showing up when we don't want to, bro. 718 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,960 Or, you know, fresh off of surgery, you're still not 719 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,280 feeling too good. Like bro. 720 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,480 It's a powerful example, bro. So thank you, thank you, thank 721 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,640 you for serving with us. No, I appreciate that. 722 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,480 You know, we build different. So that's. 723 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,280 Right, shout out. Jesus but that's all I got bro. 724 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,920 I don't know if you got any closing thoughts. 725 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,400 And my only closing thought and I just didn't want to let this 726 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,240 go. Like, and when I think about 727 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,600 making sure that it's the name of Jesus that's famous and not 728 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,520 the name of this church or myself or anybody else in here, 729 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,200 it's important man, because if, if it's all about you, God is 730 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080 only going to be able to take you so far. 731 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,240 And, and it's like, Nah, but like the, the dream I have, like 732 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:53,560 the vision is so big that we it's only God that's going to be 733 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,120 able to accomplish it. But Proverbs 16 five God detest 734 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,920 the proud of heart. So God hates pride. 735 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,760 So when our pride creeps in, when it, when we think we got it 736 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,480 all together, when we think we know it all, when we never ask 737 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,240 for help, when we never ask for opinions, when it's my way or 738 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:16,920 the highway. The Bible is real clear says 739 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,920 that God detest the proud of heart and they will not go 740 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,920 unpunished. So just keep that in mind as you 741 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,160 grow your ministry, as you ask the Lord for things, keep your 742 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,400 pride in check. Ask the Lord to take care of 743 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,200 that, because yeah, God and pride don't mix. 744 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:39,480 Right, man, It's a quote. A wise philosopher I've grown to 745 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,880 admire. Jermaine Pride is the devil, 746 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,920 bro. That's right. 747 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,360 That's all I got brought up. You wouldn't close anything. 748 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,960 Tremaine ain't wrong. Oh man, all right, city pugs, we 749 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,840 love y'all. We out. 750 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,560 Bye, guys.