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City post Sup we back welcome to
another episode of build equip 

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send It's not only the title of 
the podcast, but most 

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importantly, it's the mission of
the church. 

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My name is Hector and I'm here 
with. 

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Pastor Ricky, what's up 
everybody? 

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Hope you guys are doing great. 
Man, and I was going to jump 

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into this one. 
Straight up bro. 

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Got to make that money, man. 
Like straight up bro. 

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My first question like where did
this title? 

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Where did discernment series? 
Like where did all this come 

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from, man? 
So I was, I was thinking about 

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doing a series on on money 
finances because I feel like a 

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lot of people have been asking 
about it. 

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People have been talking about 
it. 

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You hear the whole like, oh, you
got to take Dave Ramsey's like 

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financial university and money 
is, is it's big in our culture 

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right now, the economy, like how
the tears, like all these 

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questions, all these unknowns 
and but but I think a lot of it 

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has like what is our 
relationship with money? 

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So it's not this whole idea of 
like, how do I make it? 

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It's no like how do like, what 
are my thoughts about it 

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according to the scriptures? 
And I think the the more we see 

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like what the Bible says about 
money and about finances and 

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about stewardship, it's going to
it's going to help us. 

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It's going to help our families 
is going to help us in the long 

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run. 
It's going to help how we see 

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things. 
So I thought about like, you 

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know, we call it like, Hey, 
financial giving, you know, 

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being rich and all that stuff. 
But honestly it what it comes 

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down to is all of these 
teachings is when you love 

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something more than Jesus, 
including money, it don't go 

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well, it doesn't end well for 
anybody. 

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So the love of money is what I 
thought about. 

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And then I thought about Bone 
Thugs. 

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For some reason, I was just 
probably listening to something 

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in my car. 
And that's, yeah, it just kept 

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reiterating in my mind. 
I was like, man, let's just call

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it. 
That's hard, bro. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And then the the background you 

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chose too for the for the screen
and like dintro bro like that is

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dope. 
AI is amazing, man. 

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Yeah, I just thought it was I, 
I, you know, I told people like,

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I'm actually, I know it's going 
to sound weird, but I am an 

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artistic person. 
Like I, I love, like change. 

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I like art. 
I like not doing the same thing 

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over and over again. 
And, and the backdrops actually 

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help tell the story and it helps
with the sermons, you know, so 

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it's not just, oh, it's just, 
you know, it's not, it's not, 

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it's not just something to put 
up there, right? 

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It helps people remember there's
there's a point to everything. 

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Absolutely, man, that's 
something me and that's what 

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we're talking about after the 
sermon and like kind of just 

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looking at, you know, everything
from the easy worship side and 

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the software and everything 
running on that. 

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The graphics have been on point.
Like especially I think I saw a 

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difference in the previous 
sermon series with Fight Club, 

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you know, like that graphic was 
crazy. 

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The graphics used from 
everything from worship to, you 

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know, the slides throughout the 
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Like, it definitely helps. 
I'm a very visual like learner 

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so it brings that to life. 
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geek out a little bit more, the 
colours, set moods, colours help

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guide stories. 
I mean, even like the, the 

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background, the graphics for the
song, you know, like if we, if 

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we have a very like Worshipful 
song and you use the wrong 

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background, it, it actually 
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So the, the backgrounds actually
set the pace and the moods and, 

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and I don't know, it just ties 
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So there's a reason and there's 
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creativity. 
I think God uses all of it, you 

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know, so everything is very 
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Everything is very intentional. 
It's not just, oh, let's see 

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what we could throw up there. 
Like Nah, dude, like it's it's 

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all very thought through. 
So I always like try to explain 

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that to some people that don't 
really like see. 

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The big picture. 
But yeah, like Harlem and even 

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when she, the way that she 
chooses her sly, I mean, it's 

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it's great. 
And then when we put scripture 

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up there, like some of the stuff
points to it. 

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So I think it highlights it 
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I know I'm a dork about this 
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I I really enjoy it. 
Yeah man, and that passion 

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definitely resonates in the 
sermons and the visual 

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presentation of it too. 
The congregation and those 

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watching online now shout out 
Sangwan behind the Cam getting 

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the live stream going 'cause it 
ain't easy I. 

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Love, I love when people like 
people will like come and 

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mention something. 
I'm like, all right, cool, why 

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don't you go learn how to do it 
then, you know, And then they're

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just looking at me like I'm 
speaking Chinese. 

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Math it's like. 
It's not as it's not as easy as 

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you think it is. 
There's some training involved 

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and some knowledge, so you ain't
just back there pushing buttons.

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Yes, yeah, man. 
The our worship team is 

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specifically like guys with 
audio and video make it look 

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really easy. 
It's not. 

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It's not, dude. 
Yeah, Carla's the real MVP back 

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there because she shows up so 
faithfully, bro. 

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And like, you know, I know for 
me personally, like, I would 

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fold if something like was kind 
of like, and everybody turns 

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back. 
It's like, bro, where's the 

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lyrics? 
Like, I, I know I'd freak out. 

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Yeah. 
To be honest with you, because, 

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and that's the that's the thing.
It's like, because I know who's 

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back there, I'm like, this is a 
technology thing. 

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This ain't a personal burn. 
The people back there gonna fix 

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it. 
Facts. 

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Any words? 
Don't you know, saying like, and

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I was telling, I was telling 
Andres, I know we're on a 

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different topic, but I was 
talking Andres afterward. 

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I was like, bro, you just got 
baptized by fire. 

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Like, man, I was like, this is 
great. 

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I was like, this happens to like
all the leaders. 

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Like, dude, I can't, I can't 
tell you how many times I went 

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to go preach or speak somewhere 
and the PowerPoint didn't show 

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up or my notes weren't on the 
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And you're like, all right, just
give me one second. 

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Let me go to the bathroom for 5 
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And now instead of just showing 
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People to it. 
It happens all the time. 

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You just got to stay ready. 
So I think it was a great thing,

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like just to get that under your
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And as a pastor, like I see it 
as this is a great lesson that 

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you better be prepared because 
if you can't see the, the the 

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lyrics, what are you going? 
To do right. 

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Like, you better know this 
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all the power turns off you, 
you, you got to still, we can 

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still worship, right? 
You got to lead us. 

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So it's good to like really, 
it's a great reminder to really 

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come prepared. 
And I think that's that's the 

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Lord uses these situations to 
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Yeah, and I think that's a great
segue into a quote from the 

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sermon, which is ultimately a 
biggie quote. 

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You know, we got this brand new,
beautiful building, bro, but 

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more money, more problems, man. 
We got more equipment, more 

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technical difficulties, more 
team to lead, more team to 

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train, you know, and look at the
impact, though. 

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Like it. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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Guys not doing it for nothing. 
That's right. 

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You know, So yeah, man, that's a
that's something, you know, my 

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pastor, homie, you know, he, he 
a bar ologist, you know, yeah, 

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man. 
So all with the references in 

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there especially is like, man, 
we'll be safe. 

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More money, more problems, 
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So, so break that down. 
Like where did that inspiration 

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come from? 
And like, how do you tie it to 

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the scriptures for those who may
not have seen the sermon or 

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well. 
It's this whole idea that if I 

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just had enough money, then all 
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Like that's that's the whole 
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The reason I'm struggling, the 
reason why things in my life are

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not working. 
The everything ties to this 

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whole idea of if I could only 
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And the truth is, is like, you 
can, if you want, you can work 3

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or 4 jobs. 
You could have all these side 

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hustles. 
You could, you can bring in all 

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the money in the world, but if 
your heart is not right, if your

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head's not right, if your mind's
not right, like what does, what 

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does the Bible say? 
Like what does it mean to gain 

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the whole world but yet lose 
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You could, you could make all 
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you don't understand what it's 
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that to you, you're going to end
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Like thanks. 
So it's not more money, more 

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solutions. 
It's more money, more problems. 

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Now, don't get me wrong, because
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if if you don't understand it, 
you don't utilize it, well, it's

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going to go away. 
So that's why we need to stick 

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to these biblical principles of,
of managing money and what God 

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has to say about it. 
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He's the one, everything belongs
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people would understand that, 
life would be a little bit 

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easier. 
As real bro, it's a lot of 

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wisdom there. 
And I love like again, how you 

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tie it back to to philosophers 
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with notorious BIG Christopher 
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But you know, shifting gears a 
little bit like that's a lot of 

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wisdom there. 
What is a what does Pastor Wiki 

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say for? 
For those who don't know, yeah, 

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man, shut up. 
Big prayer in the group text, 

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man. 
But what's like kind of some 

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some wisdom when it comes to 
finances that you've learned 

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maybe from a mentor or book or 
just kind of like any in your 

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own wisdom? 
Yeah, it's this whole idea of 

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being careful with debt and that
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the interest rates. 
So if I borrow money at 20% that

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like so for every dollar I 
borrow, I have to pay $0.20, you

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know, so it's not just borrowing
money, it is how much how much I

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have to pay back on top of the 
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And the Bible is very clear, you
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how you are a slave to the 
borrower, you know, so it 

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doesn't free you up. 
And in a lot of us are doing 

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well. 
Like I've had buddies like 

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graduate college with tons of 
school loans, get these crazy 

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jobs, but they're paying, you 
know, 1500 eighteen $100 a month

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for the next 15 years because 
they borrowed 200 three 

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$100,000. 
You know, so it's like having 

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another mortgage. 
What if maybe, you know, you 

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would have, it would have taken 
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school, but you would have 
worked or paid for it yourself 

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or not taking so many loans or 
been a little bit smarter with 

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your living situation. 
So it, when you have all of this

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debt, it actually kind of holds 
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It, it, it buries you in things.
And I think the, that's one of 

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the biggest lessons I've learned
is how do you utilize money 

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without high interest or, or 
having to tag that on top, you 

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know, so it's, it's helpful. 
So for me, that's one of the 

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things, and honestly, the other 
big lesson that I've learned in 

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life is that none of this 
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It all belongs to the Lord. 
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Seriously, like I've grown up 
seeing that where where people 

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like just it ain't mine anyway, 
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generosity that I've seen people
that I've experienced. 

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I remember growing up as a kid 
and my dad, like we would, there

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would be a guest pastor or 
somebody that came from out of 

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town, we'd go to 711 and dude 
would get like some coffee or 

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some drinks and they were like 
fighting over who's going to 

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pay. 
And my dad is like, no, like I'm

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paying. 
And I just remember him like 

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saying, like the Bible says, 
like you take care of men of 

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God, you know, like, so it's 
like all these like these 

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principles of generosity and 
giving and taking care of your 

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brothers and sisters in Christ. 
And if I got it, I'll, I always 

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say if I got it, I'll give it. 
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You know, it's like that's 
that's it's that simple. 

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My pastor. 
Got. 

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It's hers. 
It's that easy. 

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Yeah. 
So I mean it. 

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Everything belongs to God. 
It's not mine. 

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You know, you could lose it all.
And and like they say, you never

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see a hearse behind. 
I mean, a, a U-Haul behind a 

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hearse. 
Yeah. 

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So what? 
You're saving it all for? 

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Thanks. 
You don't take it with you. 

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No, man. 
Hey, that's that's a lot of 

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wisdom there bro, for sure. 
So you touched on a lot of 

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biblical principles and, you 
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in the book of Malachi, you 
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But I didn't even know where it 
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Had to go in that table of 
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Tries to figure that no shame in
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Know so but like that was a 
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to kind of highlight something 
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else in the Bible that's really 
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that's open your eyes to 
learning how to be a better 

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store to money. 
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book of Malachi, what like when 
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didn't realize was the messianic
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but also the way that Israel was
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know, that right there. 
I was like, wow, that's that's 

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us. 
It's a great example, you know, 

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and, and how they're, they're 
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they're kind of demanding things
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no, like I'm trying, but you 
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turn to me, you know, so, so for
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attitude, like their heart 
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for. 
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loving that he's like, listen, 
if you just turn back, you know,

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like, do what I asked you to 
because I love you, turn back to

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me and I'm going, I'll turn 
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Like I, it's that simple. 
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the arrogance, they, they 
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I was like man, how how God is 
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him? 
Man, our father. 

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We don't just run laps, run 
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Man there, there's so much there
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yeah, but that's that's a great,
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Father is like bro, just come 
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wiling out? 
Yeah, you tripping. 

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Yeah, like finances may not be 
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blank or whatever, but your 
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for you, right, man. 
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just, that's something that 
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Like that was a highlight from 
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And, you know, listening back to
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like Holy Spirit, just like, 
like, when are you going to 

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listen, bro? 
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still human. 
I still I've called short like 

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we all are, you know, So that's 
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from the Father to the Holy 
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giving thanks to to Jesus for 
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access. 
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responds to them because he, he 
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reason you're struggling is not 
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because you don't steward right,
'cause you're, I'm giving you 

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what you need, but it's a 
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giving me what I deserve. 
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like our, our struggles are tied
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So it's not a systemic issue 
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because the way that the system 
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But I mean, we could blame the 
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Like let's just be real. 
We we can. 

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But then I've just never seen 
broke people with $1000 iPhone, 

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you know what I mean? 
Like how you broke, you know, 

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like you have subscriptions and,
and yeah, memberships. 

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And so it, it's a stewardship 
right issue. 

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You know, I'm not calling 
anybody out. 

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Please don't e-mail me. 
I'm just this is just examples 

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you know? 
Any complaints in the John Ocha?

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Johnocha@gmail.com. 
We love you, we miss you, we 

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really hope you feel. 
Yeah, bro, come tomorrow, Yeah, 

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for the show. 
Man, so you kind of hit on a few

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things leading into my next 
question, bro. 

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But is there any part of, you 
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in preparation, whether it was 
the teaching on Sunday, that was

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like something that really stood
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highlight or a lesson or 
something you maybe didn't get a

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chance to like touch on? 
You know, I think Malachi 310, I

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wanted to go deeper into that 
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We didn't, right. 
But even I'm going to pull it up

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real quick, so I'll misquote it.
But Malachi 310 is a is a verse 

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that we always learn. 
But for me, what really stood 

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out? 
Everybody knows 310 verse 11, 

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like I've never heard verse 11 
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I've never heard verse verse 11 
mentioned and how verse 11, he 

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says this is God. 
He said I will prevent pests 

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from devouring your crops and 
the vines in your fields will 

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not drop their fruit before it 
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So he's like, I'm not just going
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I'm going to protect it. 
That's huge. 

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Like that's, that's like, so 
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to go over way overnight. 
Like things are not going to 

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come to take it. 
That means like I'm going to 

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sustain it. 
Like it's going to be continual,

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right? 
You know, like, so as as long as

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you keep doing this, there's no 
end insight. 

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And even when things try to come
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going to devour it. 
Like that's a protection bro. 

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God. 
Like for me, when I saw that, I 

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was like, wow, that's something 
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Right bang, bro strong for real 
and then like the question 

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that's about to follow it like I
love that answer and like it's a

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a testament to God's like 
omnipotence, you know, just see 

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controlling everything. 
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something that really stood out 
to me is like breaking down that

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quote from essentially robbing 
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And like coming off of that was 
like, bro, like I will protect 

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you. 
You know, I will protect you. 

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Make sure you all this like, you
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know, And then as we're going 
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harvest season and you know, 
like first fruits and all that 

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stuff, man. 
But us robbing God and 

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withholding those first fruits 
in our ties and our offering 

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like bro, that's one of them is 
like hit me in a chest. 

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Yeah, that whole robbing God, 
because it's like how you rob 

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God, Like there's no way. 
And God's like everything I own.

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I give you everything. 
All I require is 10%. 

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Yeah, man. 
And then you rob me. 

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Like I think he, he uses those 
terms to help people understand.

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It's like robbing the 
storehouse. 

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It's like robbing from the 
church. 

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You don't like that's you really
got to like be on something 

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else. 
If you steal man from a church, 

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like you know what I mean? 
Like, yeah, that's hard. 

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Man. 
Yeah, man. 

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Yeah, but then God's like ain't 
none to play with at all. 

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Like don't don't rob from my 
storehouse. 

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And again, like, Lord forgive 
me, I'm just a hood visual 

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learner, but I'm thinking like 
AYN with a Scheiste running in. 

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Like then you get that guy. 
Like, yeah, crazy man. 

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It's just not something to play 
with. 

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No, it's not. 
And, and even as a pastor, like 

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I, I take the, the finances of 
the church to give him very 

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serious. 
You know, it's, it's very 

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protected. 
It's watched over. 

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There's accountability there. 
Yeah. 

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It's just not something that you
want to just like it's made a 

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mistake now, man. 
It's, it doesn't belong to me. 

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So if we want God to continue to
bless it, you know, we we got to

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make sure we steward it well. 
Man, and that literally like 

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ties into the next segment 
brothers like the the 

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explanation of stewardship you 
gave is like it's not one of the

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other is both, it's both. 
And can you break that down, 

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please? 
Yeah. 

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So when you look at the 
definition of stewardship, it is

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managing everything that belongs
to God or that everything that 

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God has given you. 
And in the Scripture, there's 

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two things that tie to 
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one is generosity. 
Well, you, you constantly see 

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that theme in scripture. 
So if I manage, but yet I'm not 

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generous, all I'm going to do is
hoard and all I'm going to do is

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give to myself and I'm not going
to help nobody else. 

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So I'm going to live life with a
close fist. 

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If I'm generous, but I don't 
manage, then I'm be broke it all

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the way, you know, So it it's 
you have to be both. 

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You know, it's like the parable 
of the talents that Jesus talks 

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about. 
You know, he gives the king 

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gives everybody some talents. 
One guy goes and hides some 

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because he's worried he's going 
to lose it, but one goes and 

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multiplies it like he's he's 
responsible with it and he's 

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blessed because of that. 
So it's the same thing. 

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Like you'd get, you take what 
God's given you and you manage 

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it well, you know, So it's you 
have to and then you could be 

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generous with it. 
Right, right, right. 

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That's one of those another one 
that just kind of hit me upside 

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the head with the Holy Spirit 
because it's like Saturday I've 

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I listen to just kind of while I
was cleaning around the house. 

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Philip Anthony's Mitchell Philip
Anthony Mitchell breaking down 

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the parable of the talents, you 
know, and like being and they 

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kind of being convicted of not 
being the best steward. 

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I could be not being a great 
steward with the talents that 

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God's giving me, whether it's 
this camera with stuff from the 

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socials, whether like, you know,
how I'm leading my family, like 

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my nieces, my nephews, my 
brother, like it was one of 

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those things Holy Spirit just 
came and really like cave my 

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chest in with a little bit, you 
know, and it's based on, you 

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know, I have we talked about 
this a little bit before we were

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recorded, but just like some 
check insurance with some really

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good friends of mine is like, 
you know, we're always trying to

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push each other to do good, do 
great, to be our best versions 

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of ourselves. 
And you know, in these three 

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separate conversations, 
something that just kind of kept

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hitting me was like, bro, I'm 
just trying to be a great 

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steward and a great leader. 
And then we come to church on 

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Sunday, you know, like brother 
did that breakdown, the 

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stewardship of management and 
generosity because you know, of,

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you know, just be honest. 
I'm finally stepping into a 

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season where I'm being a better 
manager of my finances, you 

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know, after some bad decisions 
with some bad decisions will 

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like just where my money's been 
going, like just some bad 

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habits. 
But the part that I really like 

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smacked me that I wasn't ready 
for was management and 

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generosity. 
Like I'm. 

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Generosity. 
Part right, you know, because 

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I'm doing better and I didn't 
even grade at like with my 

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tides. 
But what am I really doing to 

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bring an offering to the Lord or
to his people? 

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You know, like that's one of 
those things that it just really

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hit me, bro. 
Like I think of generosity as 

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man, like when somebody gives to
the church, like through food or

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something as small as paper 
plates or like, you know what? 

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The church needs this. 
Let me let me go get it. 

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Let me go bring it. 
I have an extra couch. 

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You want it like that, that 
right there. 

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That's generosity because you 
could easily be like, oh man, 

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I'm almost sell this thing on 
Facebook marketplace, you know, 

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like I'm a hoard all this stuff.
I can make money off of this. 

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And yeah, like, I get it. 
If you need it, go for it. 

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Seriously. 
Like it's not a bad thing. 

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But I think there's times where 
we could say, Lord, I'd rather 

443
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,160
give this to you, you know, 
like, I'd rather you just do it 

444
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,360
with it. 
And I'll be honest, like Rach 

445
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,400
and I, we don't care like to 
sell our stuff. 

446
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,600
You know, like whenever we're 
done with something, we always 

447
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
at like, who needs it, You know,
like we're like, who needs it? 

448
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,920
Or it's let's hold it for a 
garage sale that's going to 

449
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,560
raise money for Air India trip 
or we know so and so is 

450
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,880
pregnant, you know, let's hold 
it for them. 

451
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,240
Like it's just always thinking 
about how we could bless 

452
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,000
somebody, you know, and that 
that needs to be a practice. 

453
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,600
That's so good. 
Man, as he said, like it's a, 

454
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,880
it's a blessing to be a 
blessing, man, you know. 

455
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:51,480
Horse Yeah, man. 
So just moving along is some 

456
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,480
questions. 
Something else that stood out to

457
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,040
me from the sermon is like that 
you changed. 

458
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280
You haven't changed portion 
break like you. 

459
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,160
Break that down, please. 
No, it was like kind of how they

460
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,880
were looking at the situation 
because the Israelites were like

461
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,040
God, like you're supposed to 
change. 

462
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240
Like you freed us from Egypt. 
Like if you, if you read the 

463
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,560
book of Malachi, the grumbling 
that they're giving God, you 

464
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,920
know, and what God is saying is 
like, I don't change. 

465
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,440
Like the Bible says that like 
alpha and Omega, I'm the same 

466
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,000
yesterday, today and forever, 
you know, like I don't change. 

467
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,080
The problem is that you haven't 
changed. 

468
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,720
So God is like, I stay 
righteous. 

469
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,560
But also that's not the problem.
The problem is that the 

470
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,520
Israelites remain unrighteous, 
you know, so he's saying like 

471
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,320
I'm, I'm taking care of you, 
I've always blessed you, but 

472
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,040
y'all need to change. 
Like it's not the other way 

473
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,120
around, right? 
You know? 

474
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,240
Yeah. 
And I just use that as the 

475
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,840
example like the high school, 
the the peaker in high. 

476
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,240
School, yeah, man, it was a 
great example for sure. 

477
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:05,240
And it's like, I don't know, 
again, how much do we take God 

478
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720
for granted, bro? 
Like in that not wanting to, you

479
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,240
know, I'll just be honest with 
myself, not wanting to change 

480
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,440
and like some eating habits, you
know, because that's, that's a 

481
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080
lot of where my poor store shit 
comes from because I want to 

482
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,360
cook. 
So I'm gonna go to Whataburger. 

483
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,120
It's real. 
Yeah, man, it's right. 

484
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,080
And it's out of comfort or it's 
out of ease or, you know, things

485
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,400
that ultimately feed my flesh 
and I'm just not a good steward 

486
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,080
of. 
That's right. 

487
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Yeah, man. 
Or it's like, not even that. 

488
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,040
I think it's gotten worse in our
culture because now it's not let

489
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,240
me just go hit up fat, let me 
go. 

490
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,480
Now it's like, let me paint 
double and use DoorDash where 

491
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,680
you know where I could go to 
Chipotle, get a bowl for like 

492
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:52,720
$11.00 or I could get a bowl for
$20 and then pay another 399 to 

493
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600
have it directly delivered to my
house. 

494
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,360
And then tip on top of that. 
So you're paying over $25 

495
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,600
something that you would 
normally get for like 10. 

496
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,880
That right there is when we talk
about stewardship, like just 

497
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,400
thinking now some people could 
do it. 

498
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Listen, if you can do it, man, 
all power to you, right? 

499
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,840
But if there's some of us that 
are trying to like, get out of 

500
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,520
debt and struggle a little bit 
like we, we need to be smarter 

501
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560
with our what? 
What God's given us, man, Yeah. 

502
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Yeah, bro. 
And that leads into to my final 

503
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,840
like thought when God said test 
me, yes, test me with your 

504
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,440
faithfulness, test me with your 
righteousness, you mean? 

505
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,880
You know, it reminds me like, 
all right, so back in the day 

506
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,040
there was this thing called 
Kings of Comedy, original Kings 

507
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,040
of comedy. 
Or a pee Uncle Bernie. 

508
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,800
Yeah, so, and, and I, I think 
it, I don't know if it was 

509
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,640
Bernie Mac or Steve Harvey where
he talks about how there were 

510
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,480
some people that like, came in 
late and, and I was like, Oh 

511
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,200
yeah, wish someone, I wish 
somebody would see it in my 

512
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,480
seat. 
You know, it's like that whole 

513
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,360
attitude, like I wish somebody 
would. 

514
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,320
And honestly, that's what I 
thought about when when I read 

515
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,880
this text, it was like, God's 
like, man, I wish somebody would

516
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:10,160
man, you know, put some ties in 
the storehouse, watch what 

517
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,760
happens. 
And that's what God's saying is 

518
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,120
like man, like test me in this, 
like just try it and see what 

519
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,400
happens, you know. 
So God is, is almost like 

520
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,080
enticing his people, right? 
And he's right. 

521
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,400
And then he gives a promise to 
that test though. 

522
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880
Yeah, break that down. 
Yeah, 'cause he, he even says 

523
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,880
it, he's like, see, if I don't 
throw open the floodgates of 

524
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,960
heaven and pour out so much 
blessing that there will not be 

525
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,080
room enough to store it. 
And I think that this promise is

526
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,840
not based off of material or 
finances. 

527
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,280
It's, it's a blessing from the 
Lord. 

528
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,200
He's like, man, watch me 
overwhelm you with my goodness 

529
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,640
and my grace and my giving and 
watch, see if just just see me 

530
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,160
work, you know, and I've seen 
that dude. 

531
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,360
I could attest to it. 
So yeah, there's so many 

532
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,200
examples in my mind. 
Yeah, man. 

533
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,000
Or times when I'm like, man, I 
don't even know how this is 

534
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,640
going to work. 
And then next thing you know, 

535
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,360
it, someone comes and, you know,
drop something off that we need 

536
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,640
or offers furniture or you get 
home from a mission trip. 

537
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,480
You got a brand new fence. 
Like, like what? 

538
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Yeah. 
I remember I told Ray said we 

539
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,360
don't have money for that. 
And she's like, well, like, they

540
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,720
decided to work on your house. 
I was like, what? 

541
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Yeah, test me. 
Yeah, man, and that's something 

542
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:36,360
like so convicting even right 
now, like God is saying test me 

543
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,960
and like just see how I'm gonna 
show up. 

544
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,240
But there's certain parts of 
whether it's my pride, whether 

545
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,640
it's like my decisions, whether 
it's my stewardship that for 

546
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120
whatever reason, I'm just 
refusing to change in or 

547
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,120
surrendering. 
And God is like, come on, 

548
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,960
mensal, just come back. 
Like I got you. 

549
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Not only do I got you, I'm going
to protect you. 

550
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Not only do I protect you, but 
like it's going to be more than 

551
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,880
you ever even wish for, hope 
for, like prayed for. 

552
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,320
And it's just like. 
You know where I see this in two

553
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,200
men, like you just gave me a 
thought relationships. 

554
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:16,000
So you know, I remember when I 
when the Lord called me and I 

555
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,280
say the story all the time when 
the Lord called me, I was like, 

556
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680
I'm going to follow you now, I'm
going to follow you now and I 

557
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,680
know what it means and I was 
like, I want I want a woman of 

558
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,680
God. 
So if you're not aligned with 

559
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,720
being a woman of God lining with
my calling, my purpose, we just 

560
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,440
going to be friends, you know, 
like and I just remember making 

561
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,560
that decision. 
That is an example of test me in

562
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,520
this. 
Watch me pour out this blessing.

563
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Boom, here comes rage. 
Boom, boom. 

564
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,440
You know what I mean? 
Like it. 

565
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,520
It's just like married way above
my pay rate. 

566
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,320
You know what I'm saying? 
So it's like this amazing woman 

567
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,200
that has come into my life and I
didn't really like doing all I 

568
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,720
did was like, all right, Laura, 
I'm gonna trust you. 

569
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,320
But it just wasn't in the area 
of relationships because we're 

570
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,600
going to see next week is Jesus 
says I need all of it. 

571
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,520
It's all and I think a lot of 
people are not experiencing the 

572
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,240
floodgates of heaven because 
they're giving in one area of 

573
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320
their life, but they're 
withholding in another and what 

574
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,160
God what Jesus saying is like 
it's it's all or nothing. 

575
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,800
So it is management and and 
generosity is both and following

576
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Jesus is everything there. 
There ain't no both. 

577
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,360
And it's just one thing. 
It's just everything, you know, 

578
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600
and that's the hard part. 
That's that's the honest 

579
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,320
conversation that I had to have 
with myself. 

580
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360
So what does that mean? 
Like so that means like I, I had

581
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,760
to, there were some people had 
to cut off, You know, it like 

582
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,160
it's something I was talking to.
Ma'am. 

583
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280
I do Kevin with man. 
We were just chopping it up 

584
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,040
Sunday morning and, and, and, 
and it was like this, this 

585
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,200
conversation about like, I think
sometimes there's people in our 

586
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,120
lives that, that it's like, it's
time to kind of like let go of 

587
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,640
it. 
But I don't think that we have 

588
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,360
to cut people off because you're
going to outgrow them. 

589
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680
And when you outgrow them, they 
fall off, you know, so that's 

590
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,800
the, so the more that you grow 
instead of you wearing like, 

591
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,480
man, what am I going to do with 
this person? 

592
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,200
How am I going to manage this 
person? 

593
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Man? 
Just keep growing and, and 

594
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120
you're just going to grow so 
much that they're just going to 

595
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,040
fall off and they're not going 
to be able to hang. 

596
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,560
So it so it's, it's a, it's a, a
mentality of like growth. 

597
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200
And I'm, I'm gonna follow the 
Lord relentlessly. 

598
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
And when you follow the Lord 
relentlessly, you're going to 

599
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,960
leave a trail of dead bodies, 
you know, like it's like y'all, 

600
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,440
you're coming or not. 
And and there's going to fall 

601
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,200
off. 
Yeah, there's so much there, 

602
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,280
bro. 
And what that does too, is that 

603
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,360
it eliminates the guilt because 
I know in our minds we're like, 

604
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,880
man, you know, we, we have this 
like savior mentality of like, I

605
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,480
got to make sure I save this 
person. 

606
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,560
It's no, it's, it's not up to 
you. 

607
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840
You, you follow the Lord, right?
And then, yeah, you share the 

608
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,480
gospel, you minister. 
But it's their decision. 

609
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,680
So I'm excited for the next 
sermon. 

610
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,880
But again, brother, when Holy 
Spirit been moving with me in 

611
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
this season, he ain't been 
pulling no punches. 

612
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,160
So I'm excited to hear your 
perspective and what the Lord is

613
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,280
revealing to you and, and where 
we're going to be at next week. 

614
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,680
You want to give us a sneak? 
Peek at all man yeah sure. 

615
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Like I think next week we're 
going to look at someone that 

616
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,880
loves riches. 
So there was a kid that loved 

617
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,160
his wealth and he asked Jesus, 
what do I got to do? 

618
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
And Jesus says go sell 
everything to the poor and then 

619
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,760
come follow me. 
And he's like. 

620
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560
And then the Bible says he went 
home sad. 

621
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,920
It's a lot to unpack there bro 
for. 

622
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,360
Real, but a common theme that 
I'm seeing in, you know, this 

623
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,240
past week sermon, the one that's
coming, our most recent sermon 

624
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,040
series and Fight Club all the 
way back to when Joel came last 

625
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,320
week for the creative meeting. 
Bro, it's this heart posture and

626
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,880
it's like just where we're 
struggling with and it's like 

627
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160
back to just what I learned. 
Anything that competes in our 

628
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120
heart that competes. 
With the Lord idols bruh. 

629
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,400
Yeah, man, so I bad and I just. 
Right now, dude, I'm telling you

630
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,360
like we have. 
I think we have an idol issue, 

631
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,880
not just outside, we have an 
idol issue in the church. 

632
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,520
And when you look at people that
are, are, are having a hard time

633
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,600
mentally, like if you look at 
like sin, these are just 

634
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,760
outcomes of sin and and you're 
just not wanting to seek the 

635
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,199
Lord and follow him. 
So man gives you over to it. 

636
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,760
All right, Well, you want your 
idol, go for it. 

637
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,600
You want to be famous, Go ahead,
be famous. 

638
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,440
See how that works Like it, It's
just, it doesn't end well. 

639
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,719
And Jesus is like, just follow 
me. 

640
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Like leave it all, leave it all 
behind. 

641
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,639
I'll be honest. 
Like, that's my prayer. 

642
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,280
Like, like Jesus, we want you 
here. 

643
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,040
And when you show up, like my 
prayer is that there is a 

644
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,560
conviction of sin and a spirit 
of repentance that, like, sweeps

645
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,240
our church. 
You know, I mean, it starts with

646
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:09,200
me, right? 
So yeah. 

647
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,760
And that and, and just just 
talking off top of my head, even

648
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,960
like that time on Sundays, like 
when it's like, Hey, if you need

649
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,200
prayer, right, come, come to the
front. 

650
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,400
We have people that pray for 
you. 

651
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Like imagine if people were 
like, you know what, I'm going 

652
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,800
to go and lay, lay stuff before 
the Lord, you know, like I don't

653
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960
even even if you don't need to 
pray with nobody, right? 

654
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,880
Like just the, the posture of 
like walking and and just saying

655
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Lord, like here it is, you know,
like it's that right there is 

656
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,080
going to cause a shift in our 
culture. 

657
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,680
And that's what I'm realizing 
too. 

658
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,120
Like man, revival is not having 
5 hour worship services. 

659
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,920
Like that's just great music. 
People with nothing to do on a 

660
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Friday night. 
It's just now revival starts 

661
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,480
with repentance. 
And when, when people are 

662
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,040
repentant of their sin and you, 
you start seeing people like 

663
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,600
coming to God saying, forgive 
me, that's when we're going to 

664
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960
see like a sweep. 
Yeah, that's when it's going to 

665
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,640
start hitting. 
So just throwing that out. 

666
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,880
Yeah, bro, that's that's great. 
And I hearing you say that in 

667
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:25,120
like, I remember a moment at the
end of, you know, it's like that

668
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000
at the end of the sermon when 
you were talking about Elijah 

669
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680
and the altar, you know, and. 
Yeah, I rebuild that. 

670
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,280
Right. 
You know, and like that 

671
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,600
invitation for prayer, like 
you're saying, bro, like you 

672
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,400
ain't even got to pray with 
anybody up here. 

673
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Just come and bring it to the 
Lord's feet. 

674
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,480
Like really just come put it at 
this altar and like that's one 

675
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,960
like this this season that the 
Lord has had me and especially 

676
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,440
this how passionate Joel was 
that night that just really 

677
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,080
stuck to me. 
Like bro, like this pet sin that

678
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,280
I refuse to surrender and put at
this altar is literally what is 

679
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,760
keeping me from seeing his 
protection, seeing his fullness 

680
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,120
of like that, like opening the 
floodgates, you know, tying it 

681
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,200
back to this past sermon, bro, 
but. 

682
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,320
Yeah, and and, and and that's 
and honestly, even in our sin as

683
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,720
well as we're doing, that's 
called grace, you know, 'cause 

684
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,440
even like when I'm every 
morning, like when I pray and 

685
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,840
I'm like, Lord, just forgive me.
Like give me a fresh start. 

686
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Give me renew my heart, you 
know, like cleanse my heart, 

687
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,680
like wash me with your blood. 
I've sinned. 

688
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,520
And then I just started listing 
them off. 

689
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,800
Yeah, like I've started getting 
more personal with what I've 

690
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,240
done, which is it's crazy 
because when you start exposing 

691
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:43,240
stuff like that, it it brings 
you like a realization of like, 

692
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:48,200
man, I really have sinned 
against God and even in my sin, 

693
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,520
he allows me to serve him. 
Man, you know, like, and I think

694
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,920
that's the the passion. 
Like that's where the passion 

695
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,000
comes from. 
It's like that realization. 

696
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,080
And you're right. 
Like God's like man, I have some

697
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880
great things for you. 
Like I just need you to 

698
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,720
surrender, man, you know, And 
then also like what he says, 

699
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,640
like, man, the way that you, 
you, you, he gives through us. 

700
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,040
So if if we're clenching our 
fists. 

701
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Man. 
Like what what is think about 

702
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,520
all this stuff that he has for 
you but hasn't unleashed yet 

703
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,320
because your hands are closed. 
Imagine if you just left them 

704
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,520
open. 
You don't like just let him like

705
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,840
flow through you, give through 
you trust you with like, like, 

706
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,400
man, dude, how awesome would 
that be? 

707
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Yeah, like, and that's going to 
take some time. 

708
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,760
I'll be honest. 
I'm I'm three. 

709
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,680
It's taking time, man, to learn 
that that concept of giving. 

710
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Dang bro man. 
He's got trust. 

711
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,520
And all like to to the point you
had earlier of, but where that's

712
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,040
going to change is, you know, 
I'll, I'll speak from the eye 

713
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,080
perspective where that's changed
for me or not completely where 

714
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,240
it's starting to change. 
Where I'm starting to see is 

715
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,600
like a prayer I had is like, 
Lord, let my sin that grieves 

716
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160
you, let it grieve me. 
Just don't let me be OK with it.

717
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,880
And I'll just be super real. 
Like that's something I was 

718
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360
struggling with coming to church
this past Sunday and I'm walking

719
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,720
in the parking lot and I just 
see Diana say what's up to her. 

720
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,880
And that's something I love 
about our community where I was 

721
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,600
just super real, where when she 
asked how I was doing, I was 

722
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,800
like, and I'm alright. 
Like she's like, it's kind of 

723
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,360
we, we exchanged that moment, 
you know, but that's, that's 

724
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080
what I love about our community.
That's what I love about our 

725
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,760
heavenly Father is like the 
grace that even though I know 

726
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,240
him, like struggling with this 
sin, I know like it's, it's 

727
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,600
grieving you and it's barely 
like starting to grieve me. 

728
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,960
You still allowing me to pull up
with this camera and capture 

729
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,120
stuff from the reels or capture 
photos. 

730
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,480
And like, even though I'm still 
a flawed human, you're allowing 

731
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,920
me to serve you through that 
grace. 

732
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,920
And right. 
One of those moments is like, 

733
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Dang. 
But you see it, but that's the 

734
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,640
indicator that that you belong 
to him based off of first John 

735
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,720
because when you have habitual 
sin, you don't think that way. 

736
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,720
You don't care. 
You give two craps about how I 

737
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,720
what I did Saturday night, how 
I'm living it. 

738
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,400
It doesn't faze you. 
There's no stirring of the 

739
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,080
heart. 
There's no like man is God like 

740
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,680
man. 
I feel like I'm I'm not doing 

741
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,440
you see it like that is the the 
move of the spirit in our lives.

742
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,280
Now it is our role to react to 
it, like, what are we going to 

743
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,520
do? 
You know, and that's when 

744
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,120
repentance comes and and you 
start making like, you start 

745
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,560
making some decisions of how 
you're not going to do that no 

746
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,240
more, you know, and and that's 
going to take, like you said, 

747
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,400
it's going to take some time, 
man. 

748
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,120
And and I think God gives us 
like community and he gives us 

749
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,320
our church. 
I agree with you. 

750
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,600
I think our church is one of 
those places where I feel I 

751
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,440
could just share, right? 
I have to be careful myself 

752
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,400
because I know not everybody has
my candor and my, you know, 

753
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:00,160
sense of humor. 
But there's certain people that 

754
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680
could handle my sin. 
Now there's certain people that 

755
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040
can't. 
So you have to figure out who 

756
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,520
can and who can't, you know, 
who's mature enough and and 

757
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,960
who's not, you know, So that's 
just something that I also like 

758
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,720
realize that I have to be 
careful with. 

759
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,440
But yeah, but our church, man, 
it's, I think people, I mean, 

760
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,280
like I said, there's real ones, 
right? 

761
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,240
Yeah. 
There's no, absolutely no 

762
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,760
faking. 
Yeah, no, there's not a lot of 

763
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,240
Christianese. 
Come on. 

764
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,440
For real, though, like, how's 
your week? 

765
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,360
All blessed, brother, You know, 
I know, like, nobody talks that 

766
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,080
way. 
Yeah. 

767
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,480
And if you do, there's just it's
weird, something wrong, right? 

768
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,240
Yeah, man, but a lot of love. 
Too a lot of love. 

769
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,520
That's right, yeah. 
Yeah, bro. 

770
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,480
Well that's all I got. 
I don't know if you have any 

771
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,400
closing thoughts, Anything you 
want to share? 

772
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,040
No, I mean, I think the only 
thing I would share is my hope 

773
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,000
for like this sermon series is 
that you don't feel you don't 

774
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,560
you don't leave here convicted 
in a way of I messed it up. 

775
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,360
Like my, my hope is that you 
live here encouraged. 

776
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,800
Like, man, even though I messed 
it up, God has given me a way 

777
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,800
out. 
You know, I'm, I screwed it up, 

778
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,120
but God is telling me how to fix
it. 

779
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,760
And I think when it comes to our
finances, some of us feel like 

780
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,000
we're so buried. 
We're like, ain't no way out of 

781
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,320
this thing. 
And God's like, no, there is a 

782
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,080
way out of this thing. 
It starts with trusting me 

783
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,400
first, right? 
And then, you know, there's, 

784
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,920
there's tools and mechanisms and
things that we could use. 

785
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,280
So it's like fixing my heart. 
Now I could go to financial 

786
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,120
university. 
Now I could go and talk to 

787
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,840
financial Wizards that tell me 
how to manage my money, 'cause 

788
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,560
if I don't get my heart right, 
then all this stuff is I'm just 

789
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,720
going to be back at square one 
that. 

790
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,840
That's good bro. 
Yeah, and last thing I'll say 

791
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,280
too, and encouragement. 
Anybody needs some financial 

792
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,800
advice? 
We have some really smart people

793
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,080
at this church also, you know, 
give a shout out to like my my 

794
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,760
guy Andrew Edward Jones. 
Anybody needs help with 

795
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,440
retirement funds and 519, you 
know, like college savings, 

796
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,360
thinking about the future, a 
strong believer and he is 

797
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,880
awesome to go to man. 
So that's available to this 

798
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,680
church as. 
Well, man, it's awesome, bro. 

799
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,320
Yeah, Dope, man. 
It's been good. 

800
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Yeah, man, it's been a great 
episode. 

801
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,880
And real quick, if you're 
watching or if you're listening 

802
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,160
later and you have any questions
you want to ask Pastor Ricky, if

803
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,280
there's any like, yeah, if 
there's any topics you want us 

804
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,440
to cover, like you see either of
us, shoot that like. 

805
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,760
Over in a text. 
Whatever. 

806
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,440
If you got my number, text me. 
If you don't, I don't want to 

807
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,360
hear it. 
I'm just like, I mean, just 

808
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,720
wanting to to mix things up a 
little bit, you know, continue 

809
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,560
to grow. 
But yeah, man, I want to end 

810
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,080
things a little bit different 
today. 

811
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440
If you don't mind, would you 
mind closing this out in prayer?

812
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,520
That's right. 
So, Lord Jesus, we thank you so 

813
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,560
much for this time together. 
Father, it's awesome, Lord, to 

814
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,720
serve you. 
Thank you for loving us. 

815
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,560
Thank you for your grace. 
Father, thank you for your 

816
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,240
sacrifice. 
How even when we continually sin

817
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,880
against you, God, we are 
forgiven. 

818
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,840
So Jesus, help us to love and to
chase after you. 

819
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Father, help us to just go after
you unabandonedly, Lord, and 

820
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,760
thank you because you are so 
good to us. 

821
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,000
So Father, be with us this week 
and we love you and your name. 

822
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,960
We pray all these things. 
Amen. 

823
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,640
Amen. 
We love you all, we out. 

824
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,200
Peace.
