1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,760 This is identity at the center OK. 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Thank you. So much for being here this. 3 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Afternoon sleeping, afternoon well. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,680 We have a special treat for you today. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,360 It is a game, it is interactive. I hope you brought your energy. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Can you please welcome Jim McDonald, Jeff? 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Stedman. For identity. 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,080 And the center. Majority roll. 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Thank you. People hear me. 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,960 OK, OK, good. Thumbs up. 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,720 All right, All right, so now for something completely different. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,360 Are you going to learn anything? Probably not. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Are you going to be entertained? Hopefully so this is Identity 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Center Majority rules. This is a game show that Jim and 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,120 I like to do from time to time, different conferences for those 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,920 people who are not familiar Identity Center is the two of 17 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:01,440 us. It is our nightly weekend job. 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,120 We've been doing podcasts for about 6 years. 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,400 IDC podcast.com like I subscribe vendor neutral podcast every 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,560 Monday morning we. Usually do it from thousands of 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,600 miles away. Might look like we're right next 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,120 to each other, but we're not. We're going to fake network 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,200 connection. Very difficulties. 24 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:16,240 While we're out here on the stage. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,440 So let me ask my lovely Vanna standing back there, Sean, he's 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,040 going to be helping me to run the game. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,280 First thing I need you to do, phone, tablet, computer, go to 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,920 our website, CCG dot buzz and enter that code. 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,640 This is a game that is all about you guys and what the audience 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,320 thinks about different questions. 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,160 It is not a quiz show to test knowledge. 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,640 This is preferences, favorites, and hopefully we're going to 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,440 have some fun and have some conversation around that. 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,680 So as people are getting joined in, I assure you the website is 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 safe. You'll have to trust me on that. 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,800 We'll see some players kind of get in. 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,600 So go ahead and start getting joined in. 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,680 I'll explain the rules as we're going as we're getting set up 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,600 here. So you're going to see questions 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,160 on the screen and you're going to vote on your favorite answer. 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Theoretically, there will be multiple viable answers, and we 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,400 will have 5050 splits, things like that. 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,800 You get points for answering quickly, but you only get points 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,120 if you select the majority answer. 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Makes sense. That makes sense as we go along 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,840 here. But the faster you respond and 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,400 the faster you pick that majority answer, the more points 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,280 you get. There's a leaderboard, so we'll 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,600 show the top 20 scores at any given point as you go along. 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,200 And we're playing for a free pass to identifiers Las Vegas 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,760 next year. So thanks to our friends at 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,720 Cyber Risk Alliance. Chris, give her a round of 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,960 applause. So free ticket. 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,480 You'll see that and a free identity at the center sticker, 55 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:00,680 right? We will be podcasting as well 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,920 later today. We have a little spot over in 57 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:04,480 the next room, so we hope to see people there. 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Try to think if I didn't miss anything. 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,440 I don't think so, but the cheat code is. 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,440 You're not picking the right answer, you're picking what you 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,040 think most people will answer. Right, so if you want to stare 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,240 at other people's computers or devices, see what they're 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,680 picking, you know, that's another way to play the game. 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,960 We will spice it up in a little bit. 65 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:27,280 Not quite yet. Everyone will always have a 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,920 chance to win at the end. So if you think you're losing, 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,080 you're not worried there will be a chance to come back towards 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,880 the end. OK, so Sean, in the upper right 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,600 click that update fire count and let's see how many people we've 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:47,680 got on the on the game so far. Should be at least one. 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Hopefully it's a really boring game. 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,200 There's nobody connected to the game. 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,560 All right, 72. OK, all right, so let's hit 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,800 start the game and let's see what we got down here. 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,360 I think a little bit of animation will play. 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,080 We have no sound effects, unfortunately, so you just have 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,680 to imagine very, very, very cool sound effects playing. 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,320 So all right, so now we just go and let's hit. 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,360 See the first question. So Sean, if you don't mind me, 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,920 just hit that spacebar. All right? 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,440 Oh, nothing. Friends mentioned questions are 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,800 totally randomized. Some are I am, some are not. 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,520 So worst conference slag to pack home. 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Let's see what the choices are. Hit the spacebar. 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,320 We've got a stress ball or a cheap T-shirt. 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,080 So this is a nice warm up question. 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,040 Let's go ahead and open it up for voting. 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,680 And you have about 10 seconds to respond once that starts. 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,360 So imagine whatever theme music you would like for voting. 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,080 Thinking time, Jim, what do you think? 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,080 Stressful or Cheap's T-shirt? I answer what I think is the 92 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,280 honest answer, which is the cheap T-shirt. 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,800 You think that's the worst sweat? 94 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,280 I think stressful. Of those stressful, takes up 95 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:03,280 very little space, you might use a cheap T-shirt you wear once 96 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,920 and that's it. OK, all right, well, let's see 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,240 what the audience thinks. Sound effects. 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,680 All right, 58% think that a stress ball sucks. 99 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,000 I'm with you. I don't. 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,280 I'm not a stress ball fan. So does this make sense? 101 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Start understanding on this place. 102 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,840 All right, let's see what the scoreboard looks like. 103 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,760 Oh, see, sound effects, all that stuff going on. 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,000 All right, I'm not even going to try to pronounce that. 105 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:35,960 Karova, Sivan and Karov, 92 points. 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Raise your hand if you're one of those two people. 107 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:40,400 OK, we got one in the back and one over here. 108 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,480 OK, Karov. OK, so Viva Las Vegas. 109 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,640 That's interesting. We'll see if we have any funding 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,800 coming up here. All right, so let's go to the 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,960 next question and see what we've got. 112 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,400 We got totally randomized. Let's see, 79 people are 113 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,920 playing. OK, what is the best way to 114 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,160 reply to why access was denied? Let's see the answer choices 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,320 here. Is it, hey, check the policy or 116 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,040 I don't know, just send me the logs and let's figure it out. 117 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,320 Let's open up for voting. Jim. 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,440 What do you think? Policy we're sending up? 119 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Jim's playing at Jim. 'S oh, I'm playing. 120 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,640 He's trying to gain this. I want to win that three 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,360 tickets. I Denver, actually I would say 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,240 the sticker, but I've got like 8000. 123 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,040 Of them so far, yeah. Send me logs OK? 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,160 Sudden logs. Let's see what the audience 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:35,880 thinks. 50 All right, Kind of see what we've got going on 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,040 here. All right, let's see what that 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:46,800 does for our leaderboard. Deshawn taking over Olivia Roby, 128 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,280 All right. Love it. 129 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,000 OK. And I see Andy's up there as 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,840 well. So congratulations, Andy here in 131 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,520 the top top 20. All right, let's get to the next 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,000 question. 82 people are playing so far. 133 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:08,360 How does AI improve science or customer or consumer or citizen 134 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,720 IAM? What are the options we've got 135 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,600 here to choose from? Is it smarter fraud detection or 136 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,720 personalized journeys? Let's open that up for voting. 137 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Jim, what do you think? I think smarter fraud protection 138 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,160 I. Think that's the easy answer, 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:24,640 yeah. And. 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,360 That's what we're going for, right? 141 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,600 I mean, what are the most people going to answer? 142 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,480 I'm still waiting for the. Options. 143 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,200 OK, let's, let's. All right, so we've got the 144 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,560 ability. Let's see what the audience 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,640 thinks. Oh, wow. 146 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,560 OK, you're right. Nobody cares about using AI to 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,280 personalize their stuff. I wonder why? 148 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,680 That's right. All right, so who picked 149 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,360 personalized journeys? Anyone brave? 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,160 You want to say why? OK, yell it out. 151 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,520 What? Andy, you picked it, you're up 152 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,040 front. Your easy. 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Yeah, because there wasn't an. Option C. 154 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,840 None of the above. C None of the above. 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,280 OK, what about the back? There was a hand raise. 156 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Why did you pick personalized journeys? 157 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Yell it out. Best customer experience. 158 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 All right, let's get to the leaderboard. 159 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,240 Let's see what that does. We know Andy's going to stay on 160 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,000 the board here. All right, Deshawn is the one 161 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,480 first, you know. Where's Deshawn? 162 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Raise your hand, Deshawn in the back. 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,160 All right, let's see. Eva. 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Las Vegas is still hanging tight, so it's been good for 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,039 them. And Johnson 6. 166 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,640 All right, let's get to the next question. 167 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,919 All right, what is a user's favorite MFA method? 168 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,960 Let's see what the choices are. Is it a push notification or is 169 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,920 it biometric? All right, let's open up for 170 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,600 voting. I know everybody loves the push 171 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,840 notifications, especially on the spam that you get from it. 172 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Fine, yes, yes. OK, you're right on the 173 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Facebook, dude. What do you vote? 174 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,320 For talking about, people love it. 175 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Love it, love it, love it. OK, strong opinions on it. 176 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Let's see. Let's see what the results are 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,080 here. OK, a little bit of a split 178 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,200 there. Biometrics versus push who who 179 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,040 selected push notification? All right, so you, Sir, why 180 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:29,760 explain yourself the prevalence of the industry, OK, it's it's, 181 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,120 it's known. So there's less training going 182 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,600 on with it, OK. But then we said we're fighting 183 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,360 to stop people from using. OK, All right, let's see what 184 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,400 that does for our standings. All right. 185 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,920 OK. Robbie. 186 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,400 Robbie. Is it Robbie or Robbie? 187 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,680 Robbie, where? OK, where you at? 188 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,680 Sorry, I didn't see it. OK, there you go. 189 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:56,800 All right, we met Robbie last night. 190 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,560 The identity beer plugged right down here, tied up with John 191 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,160 just hanging tuck up front here. All right, let's do one more 192 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,760 question and then we're going to get spicy. 193 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:13,400 So let's go ahead and see him. One more question, what is the 194 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,960 least favorite authentication factor? 195 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Let's see what the choices are. Text message, SMS, or voice 196 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,520 call. All right, let's open voting. 197 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,720 I can tell you right now I don't want anybody to call me ever, 198 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:33,040 ever, never, never call my cell phone or or my office line. 199 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,920 That's how I know that nobody really knows me. 200 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,560 If they call my office line, I don't even know what my office 201 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,760 line is. So if you have that number, you 202 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,160 scrap your phone with somewhere. All right, let's see what the 203 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,960 audience thinks. Yeah. 204 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,080 OK. Thank you very much. 205 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,360 I'm Jeff. Have a great week. 206 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,080 No. So, yeah, nobody wants a voice 207 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,680 call. All right, let's see what that 208 00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:02,960 does for our standings. So Brian, 1% didn't pick SMS. 209 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,280 All right, John is taking the lead. 210 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Roby slightly behind neither. Las Vegas #7 OK, so I mentioned 211 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,640 that we're going to get spicy spicy, so let's get the spicy 212 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,160 button in the back. What we're going to do now is 213 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,960 we're going to ship this to Battle Royale. 214 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,400 So what's going to happen now is instead of seeing 2 answers, 215 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,280 you're going to see 4 answers. The goal now is still the same, 216 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,760 pick the majority answer. But here's where the spice comes 217 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 in. If you pick the least popular 218 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,920 answer, your points go back down to 0. 219 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,680 So that's why I said everybody will have a chance until the 220 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:49,920 very end to potentially bring out the win. 221 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Now you'll still gain points if you choose the, you know, the 222 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,640 majority answer, but you're going to see 4 answers now. 223 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,920 And if we lose people, and I'm sure we will, it happens, there 224 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 will be explosions. So get prepared for that. 225 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,160 All right, let's see what our first question is. 226 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:13,320 OK, why is RBAC difficult at scale and our choices are role 227 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,400 as shadow IT, access tax role, lack of role ownership for every 228 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,360 team insisting that they are unique and special. 229 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,000 OK, so let's open up for voting and see what people think. 230 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,800 I'm sorry to tell people most of the time they're not special. 231 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,920 And so it's tough to build a role for one person that kind of 232 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,160 keeps the purpose. And also one of the reasons why 233 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 I really don't like our back. I'd much rather start with 234 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,240 Ashley for policy days. All right, let's see what we got 235 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,040 for answers. OK. 236 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,360 All right. So why is it difficult? 237 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Yeah. Everybody thinks they're 238 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,680 special. A lack of role ownership. 239 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,680 Role explosion, shadow. IT got the least amount of 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,360 answers in the room. So if you pick that, I'm very 241 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,440 sorry, but you're about to see an explosion through your name. 242 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Let's go ahead and see what that does to our leaderboard and see 243 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,560 where people are at. Let's see. 244 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Come on. Explosions. 245 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,560 OK, but Shuck is saying here Shook is a shooter. 246 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:11,960 Shuck. Shoot. 247 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,080 OK, All right, so Shook is very happy you're in. 248 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,840 You're in first place. Pressure's not if you get the 249 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,800 wrong answer, you're going back on 0. 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,040 So let's get to the next question. 251 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,640 OK, what is the official Identity and Access Management 252 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:31,480 Architect uniform? Let's see what the answers are. 253 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Is it the company polo? The vendor T-shirt, Blazers and 254 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,760 jeans? Jeans or an unwashed hoodie? 255 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Sorry to stereotype. Let's open it up for voting. 256 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Jim, what are you looking for? Unwashed hoodie. 257 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,160 Unwashed. That's the official I am 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,120 architecting for. It's OK. 259 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,800 I would go with. I feel like a company polo is 260 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,600 kind of where that typically would stand. 261 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:59,560 That's what I would be wearing. Let's see what people think, OK, 262 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Unwashed footy. That is the official architect. 263 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,360 You know, I'm walking around the room. 264 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,880 I don't see a lot of unwashed footy. 265 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,760 So first of all, thank you. Let's see I'm the holo and AT 266 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,560 shirt, Blazers and jeans. You know, I would have thought 267 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,240 Blazers and jeans would have been a little higher answer. 268 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,400 On this just. Because. 269 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Yeah, that's the, that's the business executive, right? 270 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,160 OK, All right, let's see what this does for our standings. 271 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Come on, Explosions. Oh, Hubert, so long. 272 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Sorry. All right, Anna, you're in 273 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:35,600 first. Now. 274 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,480 Where's Anna or Anna? Anna. 275 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,600 Very nice. All right, let's get to the next 276 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,680 question. I promised there would be 277 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,200 explosions and we got this right now. 278 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,160 All right. Next question. 279 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,480 What is your favorite place to hide A secret? 280 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,360 So take that for what you will and the answers will help me get 281 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,920 lower explanatory. Is it you put those in 282 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,040 environment variables? Is it the key vaults? 283 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,560 Is that a hardware security module or the ever popular 284 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,680 sticky note under the keyboard? So let's open it up for voting. 285 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Let's see what 83 people think the answer is. 286 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,640 I'm assuming this is, you know, height secret so. 287 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,920 Production dimension? Well, that's one. 288 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,200 It's too embarrassing unless they're trying to blow up their 289 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,080 name. Maybe the explosions are very 290 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,280 cool. I can see why you might want to 291 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,560 do that. Let's see what the the audience 292 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:32,840 thinks. All right, so I know keyboard 293 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,200 place. You probably want to look under 294 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,080 people's keyboards in this room and see what's going on. 295 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Not many people think about them Baron materials or an HSM. 296 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,520 So that makes sense. I think that's probably like the 297 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,880 standard answer, right? Put your put your secrets in a 298 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,160 secrets hall of some sort. All right, let's see if we've 299 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:54,560 got any explosions. No explosion, but Pete has taken 300 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,480 the lead. Where's Pete? 301 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Sitting at the end. OK, so Pete might be looking 302 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,600 over your shoulder. You might want to be careful 303 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,760 about waiting to go for over there. 304 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,320 There's bosses not here. All right, let's get to the next 305 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:11,640 question. All right, what is a protocol 306 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,520 that you secretly miss? Isn't? 307 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Let's see the answers. LPA has Kerberos or anything 308 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,480 that doesn't require reading. Jason, what is something you 309 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,600 secretly missed? Of those options, let's open up 310 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:34,160 for voting. I have a feeling there's a lot 311 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520 of people just don't want to read it for Jason, so I think 312 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,680 I'm going to vote for Jason even though not actually fighting. 313 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,400 All right, let's see what the people think. 314 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,200 The majority do not have no interest whatsoever agreed to 315 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,000 face on. And I do not blame you. 316 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,160 OK? All right, so who picked LM 317 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 again in the back? Why did you pick LM? 318 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,600 It's the best one. OK, All right, say no more. 319 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,920 That's it. OK, let's see what it does for 320 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,720 our leaderboard. Any solutions? 321 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,760 One. Marco. 322 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,880 Boom. Sorry, Marco, keep playing. 323 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,319 We get back on top. All right, Pete, Nana's still at 324 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,200 the top. Let's go to the next question. 325 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:26,119 All right, what is your most hated specialized key? 326 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,920 So the answers will help make this a little more easy to 327 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,080 understand and see what those are. 328 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Is it F5, the insert button, the Caps lock key, or any key that 329 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,200 weighs the computer up? So your specialized key in your 330 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,280 keyboard, which is your favorite or say your most, your least 331 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,080 favorite, your hated, which is easy. 332 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,800 Let's open up a. Book Oh, it's got to be caps 333 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,760 lock. Caps lock got to be caps lock. 334 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,640 How many fat finger passwords because of caps lock? 335 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Or documents they get to paste them the word do translation 336 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:59,120 from caps on to. Send to piece. 337 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,440 We have the app for that now. All right. 338 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Caps Lock. Yeah, not surprise. 339 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,200 OK, so caps lock is the majority answer. 340 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,640 Let's see what that does for our scoreboard. 341 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,320 OK, so Deshawn, that the first place here. 342 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Let's see. And now we've got not John 343 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,920 Lennon. So we've got John Lennon and 344 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,600 then not John Lennon. I'm guessing it's somebody at 345 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,680 this table. Yes. 346 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,440 You've got to work on your poker face because I could immediately 347 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,240 tell us like, all right, that's it. 348 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,200 All right, All right, let's see the next question here. 349 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,520 All right, what do you want to be responsible for? 350 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,400 Let's see the answers are conference AP setup, bad 351 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,200 standing reliability, room change notifications or keeping 352 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,360 the snack tables fold. So if you're working a 353 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:58,120 conference, so guys in the back, Chris, Chris, you should 354 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:59,720 hopefully you're fighting. I see you got your phone out. 355 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,120 You shouldn't play. OK, let's open up for voting and 356 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:05,440 see what you would most want to be responsible for. 357 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,640 I feel like I do a lot of conferencing. 358 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,320 You set up just because of what we. 359 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,560 Do. But yes, the most important 360 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,120 thing, the most important thing you can charge the most. 361 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,320 Important thing that is for sure. 362 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,600 All right, let's see what the people think, OK? 363 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,680 The people have spoken and they want their snacks. 364 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:31,160 So, all right, let's see what that does for our leaderboard. 365 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,560 Deshawn. Where's Deshawn? 366 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,200 It's still in the back here, OK. Brilliant. 367 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,160 All right, Deshawn, you're, you're taking up a pretty good 368 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,480 lead here. Is he should still up there. 369 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Rachel. Where's Rachel? 370 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,800 Sitting back there. OK. 371 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,120 All right. Any questions? 372 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:52,720 Majors in this in college. All right, let's get to the next 373 00:19:52,720 --> 00:20:00,280 question, 84 people. What is the best way to secure 374 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,320 an API key? Let's see what the answers are. 375 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,680 Is it just hash it, rotate it, don't use it, or let's pray 376 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,280 nobody likes you as a way to store that API, the key. 377 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,600 Let's open it up for voting. What do you think, Jim? 378 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,000 I I mean I'm thinking cash it or rotate it are probably the the. 379 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,680 2. Best ways? 380 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:26,000 Yeah, but I voted for the worst way, which is probably because. 381 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,800 Checks so he's playing the game, but I don't see you on the beer 382 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040 board though yet. No, I got blown up because I OK. 383 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Yeah, I forgot. So people are getting 384 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,520 individually going up if you're not in the top 20. 385 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,280 So sorry. All right, let's see what the 386 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,320 answers are. Yeah, OK. 387 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Pray nobody checks GitHub and rotate it off and don't use it 388 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,320 or action. That makes sense. 389 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,040 OK, let's see what the next question brings us. 390 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,760 Actually don't. Let's see what the leaderboard 391 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960 does for us here if we got any explosions. 392 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:06,160 What's that Keenan? Sorry, Keenan, very public blow 393 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,920 up with that, but Viva Las Vegas takes over his side. 394 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,280 So all right, let's get to the next question here. 395 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,560 Anna's back in first place. Shawn and Anna, you get it up 396 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:21,640 here a little bit. All right, what is the secret to 397 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,000 surviving keynotes? No offense, Andy. 398 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,000 All right, let's see what our answers are. 399 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Is it the chair selection strategy pre reading with that, 400 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,760 staying off the Wi-Fi for a shot every time someone says AI could 401 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,360 drink? All right, let's open Guster 402 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:40,400 voting. So I will tell you, for me, it's 403 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,040 a chair selection strategy. I don't care what do people say, 404 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,920 I am always in the back, as evidenced by open tables up 405 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,040 here. Most people sitting in the back 406 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,920 here, I think people are with me. 407 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,400 I don't stay off the Wi-Fi, otherwise you're in your e-mail, 408 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,560 your messages, etcetera. Well, so the opposite of that 409 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,240 is, you know, no offense, but if it's a bad keynote, the Wi-Fi 410 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,200 might be how you survive it. Because that's true. 411 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,040 That's. True. 412 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,680 So I'm just saying not not that our keynotes here are not good. 413 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,880 They're great. All right let's see what the 414 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,520 vote is All right so they want snacks and they want drinks 415 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:20,320 cause look at an excuse for shots in the crowds for AI 21% 416 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,200 of the people are with me in my chair selection strategy. 417 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Where's my 21% at? Raise your hand at raise your 418 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,160 hands All right, Sean's with me at the back, all right and yes 419 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,800 and they are all sitting in the back so just. 420 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,640 All those, Sean did the same. You, Sean, did. 421 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,680 No, Sean, not to Sean. D Sean. 422 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,680 Yeah, OK, let's see what the scoreboard looks like here. 423 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,480 All right, Sean, back in first place and let's see any other 424 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,760 interesting things, people. Las Vegas climbing the ladders. 425 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,280 OK, All right, let's get to the next question. 426 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,800 We got a few minutes left still. All right, what is the biggest 427 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,480 bottleneck in ITA? So identity, governance, 428 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,680 administration, let's see what our choices are. 429 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Is it the requirements gathering, the connector 430 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,520 development, user acceptance testing, or arguments over what 431 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,080 a department is? So let's open up for voting and 432 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,840 see. ITA seems like it's such a 433 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,040 simple thing to deploy until you actually have to talk to the 434 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,880 business and then you have major problems. 435 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960 So let's see what people think, what you vote for. 436 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,600 I vote for requirements, but I think the last 1 is pretty 437 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,320 interesting. I wish. 438 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,960 To change, you want to change it to the department, to what a 439 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,960 department is, Yeah. That's like too late. 440 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,920 Too late. Sorry. 441 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,880 All right, let's see what the the audience thinks. 442 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,200 Oh, OK, yeah, so people probably had this who's ruled on IG and 443 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,520 had this discussion. Wow, OK, a lot of people. 444 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,040 John, I'm going to put you on the spot. 445 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Tell me about this story real quickly. 446 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,280 Oh, there's a certain SAS vendor where I may have worked, and we 447 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,520 often got caught up in the entomology and taxonomy of 448 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,920 language because we had no cohesive organizational 449 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,880 definitions. OK. 450 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,280 So you people weren't thinking the same same language, you 451 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,080 know, the same. Definition. 452 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,880 What's a business? You know what's an apartment, 453 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,520 right? And then you have to have that 454 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,000 same conversation with a free single business unit, right? 455 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,160 Indeed. Fun times. 456 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,920 Let's see what that does for our leaderboard. 457 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,240 OK, Deshawn hanging tough, no explosions, but maybe where 458 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,960 there were individual explosions on the audience. 459 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,640 All right, let's get to the next question. 460 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:44,160 We got a couple minutes left. So what is the primary cause of 461 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,360 roll explosion? Not to be confused with majority 462 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,000 rules explosion. So what's that the answers here? 463 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,520 There's a granular permission slack of cleanup that design for 464 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,200 a just one rule for the new guy. Let's open it up for voting. 465 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Kind of similar to the question. You had earlier, but. 466 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:06,360 What causes role exposure? For me, I think it's bad design. 467 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,120 I think you like cleanup. It's just like you keep piling 468 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,960 war crap on top of the old crap. Also an option. 469 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,440 Let's see if either let's see the categories of those. 470 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,720 Just one rolls with this new guy. 471 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,840 All right, all right, everyone's special. 472 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,880 I take it back. All right, let's do what it does 473 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,920 for our meter board. It's always better on green. 474 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,120 Ek. Sorry, we're intent. 475 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Sean. Rachel P Carson. 476 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,240 All right, let's get to the next question. 477 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Again, we're playing for a free ticket to Identiverse next year. 478 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,440 And a sticker. So high private here, first rate 479 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,280 after a schema update. What breaks first? 480 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Is it the HRV custom scripts, third party connectors or the 481 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,520 architects will to live? All right, let's open it up for 482 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,440 voting and see what happens. Hopefully the hopefully we have 483 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,280 stronger willed architects that can stomach a little adversity 484 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,880 in their organization because of course that's what happened and 485 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,680 let's see. All right, tell me you're at a 486 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520 conference's bunch of architects without telling me that you're 487 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,920 at a conference a bunch of architects. 488 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,680 All right, let's see what that is for our leaderboard. 489 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,600 OK, Deshawn, first place. Killing it all, right? 490 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,440 So this is probably where we'll do our last question. 491 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,720 So there's no pressure whatsoever on Deshawn to make 492 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960 sure that he does not pick the least popular answer. 493 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600 If he does, again, we still have opportunities. 494 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,680 Let's see what this last question is. 495 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,880 What is the fastest way to confuse a user answers? 496 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,120 Is it ask for their IP address, ask for their browser version, 497 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,640 mention federation, or ask them to clear their cache. 498 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,080 All right, let's see what the answer is. 84 people are going 499 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840 to vote on this and we're going to see if Deshawn hangs on. 500 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,240 No pressure Deshawn, he's thumbs up. 501 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,640 He's confident, he's locked in. Jim, what do you vote for? 502 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,440 I. Picked IP address but I think. 503 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Any of these did actually confuse. 504 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Her most or the least. Users are so very easily 505 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,160 confused. All right, let's see what 506 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,760 happens here. Most people ask them to clear 507 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,280 their cache by a pretty wide margin. 508 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,280 Nobody thinks. Everybody thinks they can get 509 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,680 their browser version pretty easily. 510 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,080 OK, All right, drumroll. Let's see. 511 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,040 Did Deshawn. Hang on, let's see what our 512 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,560 answers are. Or in our our computer board. 513 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,920 He did, but we lost David Leo. All right, so let's hit that 514 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,240 winner button for Deshawn. Congratulations, Deshawn, the 515 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,000 winner of the slicker like dummy in the center majority rules. 516 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,760 There we go. Animations, sound effects. 517 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,200 So you probably noticed some cameras, some microphones. 518 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,400 If it turned out well, you'll see this as an episode on our 519 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,800 podcast probably in a few weeks. So again, I'm Jeff, that's Jim, 520 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,120 and thank you very much. Enjoy my next everyone. 521 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,440 You've been listening to Identity at the Center. 522 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,840 We hope you've enjoyed the show. Make sure to like, rate and 523 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,480 review, and we'll be back soon. But in the meantime, hit the 524 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,880 website at identity@thecenter.com. 525 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,600 See you next time on Identity at the Center.