1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:11,440 This is identity at the center. Welcome to Majority Rules. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Thank you very much for being here. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,400 The few, the proud, the ones that are left over here at noon 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,760 on the last day of the conference. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,520 My name is Jeff Stedman. I'm the host of the Identity 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,600 Center podcasts. I'm joined here by my Co host 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Jim McDonald. That's me Co host. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,200 I'm also a consultant during the day at. 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,200 RSM. That's right, and so am I. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,560 And then the pickle in the middle. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Rebecca Arshamble, the Gartner analyst here. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,720 That's just here to have fun. All right, so the first thing is 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,920 you want to get your phone device, whatever it is 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,440 connected, Go to that website, CCG dot buzz, enter that code, 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,560 enter a name. I see we've got some people who 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,280 have already joined. We'll give folks a few minutes 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,480 here to get set up while I explain the rules of the game. 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,960 You can use whatever name you like, just, you know, maybe make 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,360 it safe for work. That's totally fine. 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,640 We're going to have a game show here. 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,600 And so I can almost guarantee you will learn absolutely 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,840 nothing. The the only thing you're going 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,560 to learn is what the people in this room around you are 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,680 thinking around various topics that are coming up. 25 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,280 So we're going to have some fun for the next 25 minutes or so. 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,200 You're going to get questions that appear on the screen. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,760 We're going to talk about it, You're going to have a couple 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,840 answers, and then you're going to vote as a group on your 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,600 device as to what is your favorite answer. 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,160 So I cannot stress this enough. This is not a test of knowledge. 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,200 This is a test of what is the pulse of the room feel like for 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,320 these answers that you're going to see. 33 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:36,960 So think it was more like favourites, preferences, things 34 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,880 like that. I would say there are no right 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,320 answers. There are always wrong answers 36 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,080 to every question out there, but there are no real right answers 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,240 to this. It's really more of a preference 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,520 thing. We will be keeping score. 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,360 So the faster that you select the majority answer, the more 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,400 points you get. And you'll see it on your 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,120 screen. You only get points if you 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,360 select the majority answer. And so we'll have a couple more 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,560 UPS. It'll make sense after you get 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,160 the first couple questions in. And so, oh, we've got sound 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,040 effects. That's sweet. 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,400 OK, so we've got eight people so far. 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Let's see what we got 27. For those of you that just came 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,640 in, you're going to go to this website over here in the upper 49 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:16,160 right and put in that code to play. 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,200 CCG dot buzz enter the code, then give yourself a name. 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,560 No real names. Right, you can use it. 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,920 Can be. Creative here, but you know. 53 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:27,480 Safe for work? Safe for work? 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,960 This might end up as an episode of our podcast. 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,000 So you don't keep it, keep it, keep it clean. 56 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,640 As long as it's you're comfortable with me calling you 57 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:34,880 by that name, that's totally fine. 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Mr. R, I'll, I'll keep your anatomy there. 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,560 OK, so we've got people joined in. 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,200 There is going to be a twist coming up shortly. 61 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:46,760 And I mentioned that we're keeping score. 62 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:48,400 So we actually are playing for prizes. 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,320 And I think given that we have, you know, maybe 30 people in 64 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,640 here, roughly 31, we actually have some donations from both 65 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,440 the company. Jim and I work for RSM as well 66 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,400 as Signal. So we're actually playing for 67 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Amazon gift cards. It's sad. 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,960 And it's no small chump change either, right? 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,680 So the top three scores are going to be winners. 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,240 The top scorer at the end of this game is going to get a $500 71 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Amazon gift card. So thanks to R7 Signal for that. 72 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,640 Second and third place get 250. And so we'll be tracking. 73 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:22,640 We'll have the score, we'll see it. 74 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:25,320 So now that you know, there's actually some some nice stuff on 75 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,520 the line here, right? And also, I'm sure Jim has 76 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,640 stickers for the podcast, So we'll have that. 77 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 All right, so let's go ahead and get started. 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,280 It's done an either or on the stickers. 79 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,880 That's a little on. All right, OK, so we're going to 80 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,480 see the questions here and let's get going. 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,880 So the first question is real easy. 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,480 What's your favorite? What's your favorite identity 83 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 podcast? Is it identity at the centre? 84 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Hence that's the right answer or other which is the wrong answer? 85 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 No offense to other great identity podcases out there. 86 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,000 And so I'm going to open this up for voting and while they're 87 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,080 voting, Jim Shameless club for the podcast. 88 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,880 But you got. To go with identity at centre. 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,360 I mean, it's the right answer. Right. 90 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,840 It literally says it on the screen. 91 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,880 OK. So this should be a layup for 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,320 everybody and let's see what people came up with. 93 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,279 Hey, look at that surprise, surprise, it's the podcast. 94 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,240 So thank you very much. Appreciate it. 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,560 So hopefully that first Test question, you know, makes sense. 96 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Let's see what that does for our scores. 97 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,000 We'll just see who is the fastest person to click the 98 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,080 button at this point. So Craig, Craig up front. 99 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,440 All right, so Fabian is right behind Ashley Kirk. 100 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,320 All right there. So we're talking millisecond 101 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,080 here from a response time. All right, let's get to the next 102 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:43,440 one. All right, What is your primary 103 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,320 goal for the conference? Is it networking? 104 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,720 Saw a lot of that in the bar last night or education? 105 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,880 I'm going to open it up for voting here and we'll talk about 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:54,760 that. What do you think? 107 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,760 For me it's always networking. Networking, yeah. 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Yeah, I'm going networking for 1000. 109 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,880 Final answer. Final answer. 110 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,680 So you guys are picking what you think is the right, the most 111 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 popular answer? Just as a reminder, yeah. 112 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,360 Some people actually come to conferences to learn things. 113 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,000 So weird. I get it. 114 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,240 I get. It all right, Let's see all 115 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,520 right, pretty good splits OK all right so we're surrounded with 116 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,720 people who actually want to learn things so congratulations. 117 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,840 Unfortunately, you're not going to learn anything in this one. 118 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:26,480 So, you know, maybe a poor choice for those. 119 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,200 In the wrong side. We're. 120 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Just setting the right expectations here. 121 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,720 Exactly. All right, So let's see what 122 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,120 we're doing for scores. So if you didn't select the 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,720 right answer, you're not going to get points on that one. 124 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Craig is still in the lead. Dude, you were killing it. 125 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,360 Yeah, all right, let's see him. So you have policy enforcer, 126 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,720 we've got an agentic AI is playing the. 127 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,760 Game full names. Yeah. 128 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,000 All right, so let's keep going here. 129 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,160 Let's find out what is the most popular buzzword this year. 130 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,680 All right, Is it a gentic identity or post quantum 131 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,680 computing? So I feel like if you walk to 132 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 the Expo hall down there, you know everything is a gentic ID 133 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,440 identity. What do you think? 134 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Becky, I think I gentic 100%. It's got to be agentic. 135 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Is it because people just don't really understand post quantum 136 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:16,480 yet? Yes. 137 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,160 And they need to. Or do they need to? 138 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,840 But yeah. OK, All right, let's see. 139 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Oh, yeah. Surprise, surprise. 140 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Everything is agentic. So there we go. 141 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,200 Let's see what it does for our points. 142 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:35,000 There's something hard. Craig's still in the lead. 143 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,600 Fabian's hanging right there. Where's Fabian? 144 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Craig's already. Spending that on Fabian's over 145 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,280 there. OK, All right, you got some, you 146 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,680 got some, some competition there. 147 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Now I will say if you're behind right now, don't worry about it 148 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,320 because the twist is coming. Don't you worry. 149 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,800 That's right. All right. 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Next question here. What is the primary use of user 151 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,400 behaviour analytics? UBA, Becky, what is what do you 152 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,760 think? Well, we, I used to call it 153 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,960 UEBA. Oh yeah. 154 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,880 That shows our age because it was UEBA, then UBA, and now I 155 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,040 feel like it's like these. Are these are both good answers? 156 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Yeah. Jim, what do you go with? 157 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,120 Fraud or begging? Both Good. 158 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 I guess I'd go insider threat. Insider threat. 159 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,680 OK, well, let's see. What then? 160 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,560 I got to go with the other. Yeah, there you go. 161 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,040 That's fair. What'd you say? 162 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,720 I'd go with the other. He's going inside or I'm going 163 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 fraud. All right, let's see. 164 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Oh, pretty good. Split inside first change. 165 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 OK, so fraud detection. Nobody cares if the. 166 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Well, less, I'd say not nobody, but fewer people care if they're 167 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,400 getting ripped off. They're more concerned about the 168 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:47,680 people on the inside. OK, All right, let's see. 169 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Craig, you still in first? Yeah, Fabian. 170 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,160 All right, Fabian. Fabian wants to go shopping on 171 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Amazon. All right, let's see. 172 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,880 The policy enforcer has moved up, Agentic AI has slipped back 173 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,440 at the pseudo IMDU. OK, Neo, we're in the Matrix. 174 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,920 All right, some interesting names. 175 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,640 All right, so we're only showing the top 20 on here, but I'm sure 176 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,000 there's interesting ones out there as well. 177 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,600 OK, So what makes an Expo hall booth memorable? 178 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Is it cool demos, neat technologies or friendly 179 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,800 experts? I know some people would say 180 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,960 socks that I know socks. Friendliness. 181 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,159 Socks is not an answer, but while you're. 182 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,960 Voting, but we'll go with friendliness. 183 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,760 All right, so how many people while you're voting, how many 184 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,120 people like socks to pick them up at these things? 185 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:45,920 OK, maybe 1/4 of the room. Oh, OK, well, you're still in 186 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:46,880 the quarter. Stuff like that. 187 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,240 I'll admit I'm not a sock guy, but I'm not going to be grudge. 188 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,240 All right, people want cool demos, preferably driven by 189 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,040 friendly experts. OK, so we've kind of warmed up 190 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,680 here a little bit. Let's see what that does for our 191 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:06,360 scores, Craig. Oh, wow. 192 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,920 All right, so where's Jo? In the back? 193 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,800 All right, my guy, I'm always sitting in the back, too. 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,160 All right, so Craig and Fabian. So Jo, come, come in and out of 195 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,360 there. So guess what? 196 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:23,200 It's twist time. So it's time to go into a battle 197 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Royale mode. So the twist here now is instead 198 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:31,960 of 2 answers, you're going to see 4 answers. 199 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Now the goal is still pretty similar. 200 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,600 You want to pick the majority answer, but you want to make 201 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,520 sure you do not pick the least popular answer. 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,120 If you pick the least popular answer, even if it's a tie, you 203 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,080 lose all your points. So everyone is going to have a 204 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,680 chance, right to Lavarian to win some valuable prizes and also 205 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,720 some Amazon gift cards. The sticker is the valuable 206 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,000 price. OK, all right, so let's go with 207 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,840 the next question. What is the true purpose of an 208 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,160 analyst 1 to one session? I think there's only one person 209 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,880 on the stage that can answer that one. 210 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,640 Well, we're going to find out what people think. 211 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Is it road map validation? Is it contract negotiation, peer 212 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:23,160 benchmarking, or is it therapy? The Therapy 100. 213 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Percent. All right, so a little insight 214 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,240 into what's happening behind the scenes. 215 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,920 Let's open it up for voting here and say. 216 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,720 We're going to get blown up here because I think any of these can 217 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,480 be the least popular. So remember, the strategy is not 218 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,760 the right answer, It's what you think the rest of the room is 219 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,040 going to pick. And I can guarantee you that 220 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,200 there will be agents of chaos in here who are just picking 221 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,120 random. Things and there are some former 222 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,880 analysts also in the audience. Yes, exactly. 223 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,040 And they can probably vouch for the therapy session, right? 224 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,880 Yeah, Yeah. OK. 225 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,440 All right, let's see. Well, vast majority, are we on 226 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,360 the right track from a road map perspective? 227 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,760 But yeah, therapy showing strong. 228 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Showing strong. Easy for me. 229 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,360 As for the record, we do do all. Of those, exactly. 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,440 I did my research. Yeah, There you go. 231 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,880 All right, so if you picked contract negotiations, I'm 232 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,920 sorry, but you're going to lose all your points here. 233 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,640 The exciting thing is we see explosions. 234 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,960 Boom. Sorry, Ashley, but don't stop 235 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,600 playing. Remember, everyone can have a 236 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,520 chance right till the very end. You're still accumulating the 237 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,560 points as long as you don't pick the least popular answer. 238 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,920 So Kirk has moved into the lead here. 239 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Jo, Fabian, Steph. Let's see a a joker with the the 240 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,520 very elite 3 as the E Cool. Let's go. 241 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,800 I saw an I, I saw an ID theft on there as well. 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,480 All right, how do you mitigate agentic AI risks? 243 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Let's see if the options are is it non human identity policy 244 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,480 behaviour monitoring, scoped permissions or let's pray that 245 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,360 the bot doesn't learn the RMF commands and delete all your 246 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,360 files. What do you think? 247 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,760 I don't really like these answers. 248 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,640 OK, well, you have to pick a favorite. 249 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,360 I got to pick one, huh? Yeah. 250 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Oh gosh, it's got to be the monitoring one, right? 251 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,560 I don't know. OK. 252 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Scope permissions I think is my favorite. 253 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,080 Scope permissions. Well, let's open up for voting. 254 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,560 Let's see what people think. Yeah, I mean, I think, I don't 255 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:23,240 know, all of these are important. 256 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,680 I don't think you can be successful doing just one of 257 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,400 these. Correct, Except for making sure 258 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,440 that obviously you don't want your bot to delete your file 259 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,320 structure. Exactly. 260 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,440 Let's see what people are thinking. 261 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,400 OK, pretty good split here. Non human identity policy. 262 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Scope permissions right there. A couple of folks, you know, 263 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,320 hoping for prayer to make sure the bot doesn't become sentient, 264 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,920 which is always nice. All right, let's see what that 265 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,720 does for our scores here. Let's see. 266 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Fabian. Oh, John. 267 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,200 Sorry. John Oh, couple people. 268 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,000 See, John, you've got you played with us a couple weeks ago in, 269 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,600 in DC. So, you know, the audience is 270 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,600 way more sincere. The audience is way more 271 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,640 sincere. OK, the Gallway has been thrown 272 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,880 down by John. All right, let's keep going 273 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:10,840 here. What is the best strategy for 274 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,880 the vendor hall? And apologies to any vendors who 275 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 might be in here already solution mapping, competitor 276 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,960 analysis, partnership talks or aggressively avoiding ICON with 277 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,120 the sales Rep, which I'll tell you I'm a pro at. 278 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,600 If you look past people, that's the that's the tip right there. 279 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,200 All right, let's open up for voting. 280 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Jim, how do you avoid? No, I don't. 281 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,960 I don't avoid. I need to have this 282 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 conversation. So I'm going to go competitor 283 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,640 analysis. What do you pick, Becky? 284 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:42,320 Talks. Talks, just talk. 285 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,360 I'm a people. Person I want to talk. 286 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,520 Swag. There's an office space 287 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,200 reference in there, but I'm not going to go there. 288 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,960 You're a people person. All right, let's see what the 289 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,160 people think. OK. 290 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Yeah. Solution mapping. 291 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,840 And yeah, apologies to the vendors in here. 292 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,760 They're looking, you know, past you. 293 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Let's see what it does for our scores, people who are 294 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,160 interested in partnership talks. OK, we left. 295 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,640 We kept the top 20. That's good, a Gentek AI. 296 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,200 Is walking around. No, nobody got a. 297 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Nobody got with that one. Some people might have if on 298 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:10,320 their phones. Just not. 299 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,960 We'll just look at the. Top 20 yeah OK let's get to the 300 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,920 next one here what is the future of IGA identity governance 301 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,240 administration is it autonomous governance, policy based access 302 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,240 event driven or hey let's just replace one spreadsheet with 303 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,320 three dashboards I. I would I would like Felix to 304 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,760 answer this. Question #4 All right, well, 305 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,240 let's vote. Let's see if he votes for that. 306 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Let's turn it out there. It's got to be #4. 307 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,080 You take it #4 OK, some people might actually pick a real 308 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,840 answer, so we'll see. I I'd pick event driven. 309 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,480 OK, event driven. See autonomous government. 310 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Can't read this audience. It's the lights. 311 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,720 It's hard to see out there, right? 312 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,240 All right, autonomous governance, policy based event 313 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,120 driven and nobody's on on on board with the spreadsheets and 314 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,800 the dashboards. So let's see what it does for 315 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,680 our our scores here. All right, no changes there. 316 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Where is Jo if I can see it? Oh, that's right. 317 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,640 Right in the back. OK. 318 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,320 There's Fabian, all right. Fabian Neo and the Agent are 319 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,840 right there, neck and neck. All right, let's go. 320 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,760 What is your favorite Gardner report? 321 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,360 And I know there's more than these, but we have 4 choices. 322 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Is it the Magic Quadrant? Is it critical capabilities? 323 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,280 Is it the market guides or is it the hype sites? 324 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Give me MQ for 1000 MQ. For 1000, OK. 325 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,600 Becky, what's your favorite? My favorite is Critical 326 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,400 capabilities. Critical capabilities. 327 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,520 OK, well, let's see what the people think. 328 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,840 I know there's other ones that are out there as well, but these 329 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,720 seem to be like the ones that come up the most, at least from 330 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,680 I've seen. All right, let's see what people 331 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:52,320 think. No. 332 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,880 One that one. Magic Quadrant 2/3. 333 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,400 OK, so who's brave? The 3%? 334 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,280 So it's maybe one of you that picked Hype cycles, John. 335 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,320 OK. All right. 336 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Let's see John. And did you know that every 337 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,280 major quadrant has a critical capabilities? 338 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Everybody know that that's always there. 339 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Critical capabilities almost gets missed all the time but has 340 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,080 really good stuff. Oh, yeah, because you just got a 341 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,560 fancy graphic and that's nobody reads past that, right? 342 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,240 There's so much more to learn on that. 343 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,200 All right, Fabian's there. No is out there and I'm 344 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,160 emphasizing all the OS. So there you go, the pseudo 345 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,320 IMDU. OK. 346 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,000 I'm really surprised by people who score so high. 347 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,400 I'd be right there with Steve Rennick, not on the screen. 348 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,040 All right, let's get another one here. 349 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,160 What is the benefit of just in time access? 350 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:56,160 Is it 0 standing privileges on its streamlining risk reduction 351 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,520 or less time for the AI to hallucinate an admin task? 352 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Always love, I always love that #4. 353 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,240 The number four, Yeah, You know, I had to sprinkle a little fun 354 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,000 fun into this. Yeah. 355 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,599 Not that it can't happen. That means 0 standing. 356 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:11,960 Yeah, let's. See what the people think. 357 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,119 What are you voting for, Becky? I think the the most popular 358 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,240 answer would be 0. Standing 0 Standing. 359 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,720 I'm guessing you're on 0 standing as well. 360 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,839 I haven't been very good though. OK, well, let's see. 361 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,400 Oh, you're right. So there we go. 362 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,480 That one, right? 2/3 the audience is 0 standing 363 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,480 privileges. All right, let's see what that 364 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,800 does for our scores. All right, Craig, back on time. 365 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,600 All right, All right. Where's a A? 366 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Nobody's volunteering to be a A I've. 367 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Seen. It OK, Yeah, All right, all 368 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,640 right, let's keep going. What should be prioritized when 369 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,520 using AI in authentication? Do we minimize false positive, 370 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,120 minimize friction, adaptive responses, or make that CAPTCHA 371 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:04,320 less insulting? Becky, are you a robot? 372 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,200 Can you pick all the motorcycles in this very grainy picture? 373 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Not yet, not yet. I'm not a robot yet, OK? 374 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,280 What's the worst CAPTCHA you've ever seen, Jim? 375 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,880 Well, it's always like identify any stairs or identify the bus. 376 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,840 It's like, oh, is that a? Bus It's this little tiny 377 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,680 corner. Right, that a bus that might be 378 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,600 a bus. I think it's a real art form. 379 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,520 They have like a really bad CAPTCHA. 380 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Yeah, like. There's a lot. 381 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Of thoughts that probably. Goes into it. 382 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,160 There should be bad UI battles on Reddit or if anybody. 383 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,600 'S interested. In Magic Quadrant on the worst 384 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,480 CAPTCHA. I'm in favor of that. 385 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,200 You heard it here. Gartner 2025 Magic Quadrant 386 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,960 worst CAPTCHA coming soon. All right, minimize false 387 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,920 positives. OK, Yeah, that makes sense. 388 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,000 Let's see what we do for for scores here. 389 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,360 See, we've got 37 people playing. 390 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Oh, we lost Steph and we lost Club 296. 391 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,240 Sorry. I get a little tickle when I 392 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,320 hear the explosions. I don't know for me that. 393 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,640 Just does something. I do I, I, I like chaos and 394 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,720 destruction. What can I say? 395 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,280 All right, let's get to the next question. 396 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,440 What is the best way to secure non human identities? 397 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,880 Isn't short lived tokens a secret rotation workload 398 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,360 identity federation or unplug the server because you can't 399 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:20,680 hack what's turned off. All right, what do you picking, 400 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,880 Becky? I'm picking short lived tokens. 401 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,000 Short lived tokens, Jimmy Ruth, Short lived tokens. 402 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:28,760 All right, short lived tokens. OK, let's see what the people 403 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,920 think is they're voting. We should ask. 404 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,600 Craig. Craig. 405 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,040 What's the Craig? What do you think? 406 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Yeah. Just vote with Craig. 407 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,720 Let's see. Short lived tokens. 408 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,080 OK. Majority is the answer there. 409 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Let's see. All right. 410 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,600 Craig's still there. We lost Fabian. 411 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Sorry, Fabian. Don't worry. 412 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,800 There's still a chance to come back. 413 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:52,960 All we need is Craig to slip up. Jo, the pseudo IMDDU. 414 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,400 All right, a rod. I'm assuming that's not the 415 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,640 baseball player. Yeah. 416 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,600 What else could it be, right? What is the key to successful B 417 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,800 to BI AM? Policy, delegation, 418 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,160 standardization, trust framework, So federation. 419 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,360 So when it breaks, it's the partner's fault. 420 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,960 What are you going to pick, Becky? 421 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,640 I I don't really like this question very much. 422 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,160 I'm going to I guess. I mean delegation is a big deal 423 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,400 for B to B, so is trust. Delegated administration. 424 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,400 So I don't see that there, but I'll go with policy delegation. 425 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,080 Policy delegation. OK, let's see what the people 426 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,800 think. Yep, most people are in policy 427 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,160 trust frameworks. A couple of agents of chaos out 428 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,040 there that are happy to blame the partner. 429 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:42,680 Let's see what it does for our scores. 430 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,440 Yeah, we're going to have some blow UPS, I think. 431 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Yeah, here we go. Sorry, Carly. 432 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Oh, Mr. Renick. No, sorry. 433 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Thanks for playing. Keep playing. 434 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Everyone's still in it. A A has taken the lead. 435 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,880 All right. What is the hardest part of role 436 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 mining? Everyone's favorite project? 437 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,360 Dynamic context over privileged roles, business ownership, or 438 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,600 discovering that you've got 5000 employees and 6000 roles. 439 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,240 That never happens, right? No, quadruple it. 440 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,000 That's more of a common. That's right. 441 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,400 What what do you think is the what are you going to vote for 442 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,360 here? If you were, If you were 443 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:19,360 playing. Well, the hardest part of them, 444 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,640 I guess, for me, ownership. Ownership. 445 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,880 Definitely. Ownership, I see Jim shaking his 446 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,280 head. All right, let's see the people 447 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,640 think dynamic contexts. OK all right. 448 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,640 And and there's only one truthful Lancelot here, which 449 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,080 was the 5000 rolls. So, so the one person who has 450 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,000 selected that, thank you for answering truthfully. 451 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,000 This is not the hardest part. That's the most realistic part. 452 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,880 All right, a rod is now in the lead. 453 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,080 Was quick on the buzzer that time. 454 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Let's get to the next one. Why is privilege access 455 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:56,760 management for AI agents vital? Is it shadow AI model integrity? 456 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,760 Data exfiltration? Or so Dave's bot doesn't 457 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,320 accidentally delete prize. Everyone's. 458 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,240 I always like the last answer best. 459 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Always thank you. You're welcome. 460 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:09,320 Good job. What are you going to vote for? 461 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,240 Oh I guess, oh Jesus, all of the above data exfiltration or 462 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,480 shadow AII would go with. So, AIA. 463 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,360 I yeah, Exfiltration. Exfiltration. 464 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,520 All right, Let's see what the people think. 465 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320 The audience says it is shadow AI. 466 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,000 Yeah, I think that's a big problem right now, right? 467 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,440 I mean, it's everyone is experimenting with these. 468 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,360 Schools, it's a problem. People just don't know what's a. 469 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:32,920 Problem. Yeah, All right, let's see what 470 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,840 does for our scores here. All right, A a back in the in 471 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,600 the 1st. Is that a a Ron? 472 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Hopefully we got some key and pee Peel key, key and Peele fans 473 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,600 here. All right, What is the main take 474 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,720 away of the keynotes that we've heard so far this week? 475 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,280 Is it future vision, strategic pillars, market direction, or 476 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320 new buzzwords to confuse the board? 477 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,360 #4 always goes for me. Yeah, I was. 478 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,600 Was it? IVIP is a new one. 479 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,120 Ivip, Ivy. I call it ivip. 480 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Some people say IVIP. You know, tomato. 481 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,480 Tomato. Let's open up for voting, see if 482 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,920 people think I think identity at the core was the theme for this 483 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 one. You notice I didn't say because 484 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,000 identity at the center was taken. 485 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960 And that's a lesson in trademark, folks. 486 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,640 All right, let's see. Most people think future vision. 487 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Yeah. Where's Where's the industry 488 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,520 going? That's a good message. 489 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,560 Yep. All right. 490 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,440 You think Holman's going to be happy with that? 491 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,120 That's what the answers were, Sure. 492 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,240 Yeah, got so much Holman, maybe Mike and Atkin. 493 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Maybe. OK, All right. 494 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,360 Yeah. All right. 495 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:39,920 Let's see what it does for our scores here. 496 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,200 Well, actually in the pseudo IMDU have blown up. 497 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,040 No, very sorry. We're sorry. 498 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,880 All right, let's see who comes up on the board. 499 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,560 No. No background. 500 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,800 Policy Enforcer Joker John is back on the on the leaderboard. 501 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520 Here we've got the Auth Enigma. That's a great name. 502 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,080 Agentic AI is in the top five. Craig, you're still hanging 503 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,400 around at #6. Craig, you're kind of lurking 504 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,760 all the time, yeah. It could just. 505 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,720 All right, let's see. How do you measure I am success? 506 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,880 Is it time to access automated remediation threat coverage or 507 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,440 the Siso smiles? Just kidding, that never 508 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,800 happens. The Siso never smiles. 509 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,160 I do like that the answer though. 510 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,920 Yeah, OK, yeah. Siso smiles. 511 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,560 Let's open it. Up. 512 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,680 I don't really just miss that last one, but I'm going to say 513 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,120 threat coverage, threat coverage. 514 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,760 Sounds smart. You're just saying all about 515 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,680 risk, right? They're saying all the businessy 516 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,320 things. They're not in there well, but 517 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760 that's OK. Some Sisos are technical, some 518 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,160 aren't. Or less technical I should say. 519 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,200 I probably most people on time to access Yeah. 520 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,680 How quickly you know, how quickly do you provision access 521 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840 right, things like that. OK, All right. 522 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,880 We got about 5 minutes left. We'll see how many we can get 523 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800 through here. A rod first place. 524 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Who's Where's a rod? Yeah, where's a rod? 525 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,160 Who's a rod? In the back as well. 526 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,200 All right, a rod's going to go shopping. 527 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,880 All right. What is identity threat 528 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,040 detection response ITD? Is it real time response? 529 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Is it signal sharing? Is it attack path analyst? 530 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Or is it just scrapping logs with a cooler name? 531 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,280 What's What do you mean by graphing logs? 532 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,840 So that's how you pull information fucking an Xbox 533 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,160 graphing. Graphing, it's called. 534 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,640 That's a nerd joke they make. How many people know what 535 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,560 graphing is OK? All right, I clearly am. 536 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,520 Shout out in the nerd class. Good, let's see what people 537 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,720 think. Real time response, signal 538 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,640 sharing, Attack path analysis? How do you how would you define 539 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,600 ITDR based on these? Choices all of the. 540 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,440 Above all of the above OK, but all of the above is I'm like 541 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,520 signal sharing. Yeah, that's how you detect. 542 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,320 Yeah, let's. See what people say. 543 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,000 Real time responses. Yeah, OK. 544 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,760 I guess that's the detection part. 545 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,360 Of the response, yeah. All right, let's see what it 546 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:58,320 does for our scores. We've got a a. 547 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,520 Oh, we lost Chris. Sorry, Chris, A A is on the 548 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,440 lead. A rod No. 549 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,680 Back up there. Congratulations. 550 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:15,080 All right, next question, what is the biggest lie in IAM sales? 551 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Is it fully autonomous, one click install legacy compatible 552 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,880 or it's just one line of code? Let's open it up for Boeing. 553 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,320 What do you think? Are you not allowed to say 554 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,120 anything on this one? No. 555 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:35,000 They don't lie, I. Have to deal with this so I. 556 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Love this card. Legacy compatible? 557 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,800 Yeah. Number one. 558 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,480 Let's see what people think. Fully autonomous, pretty pretty 559 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,360 wide margin. So if you picked legacy 560 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,440 compatible and just went on code, there's a tie. 561 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,320 So we might lose some people on this one. 562 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,400 Little bit of hype on that. 1 All right, still in the league. 563 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,040 All right, we've got about 3 minutes left, so anyone's game. 564 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,600 What is your least favorite Gartner report? 565 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,400 Is it the Magic Quadrant critical capabilities market 566 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,040 guys or high cycles? Probably my favorite is going to 567 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,600 be the least favorite. Your favorite is the least 568 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600 favorite. Which I said before was critical 569 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 capability, OK, but I just don't think people have read it. 570 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,760 OK, so Jim, I'm going to put you in a spot. 571 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,640 What is your least favorite? Garden magic fun you. 572 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960 You don't like magic fun. I said those my favorite. 573 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200 That's. Your thing you you like it and 574 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,200 you don't like it. I like the image, I don't like 575 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,760 the 60 page. The critical capabilities, all 576 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600 right, OK. Most people don't like the high 577 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,560 cycles. Really. 578 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,480 Is it really true or you? Have to pick 1 so. 579 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240 I get it. I've got 4 choices. 580 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:49,040 OK, all right, let's see if we differ our scores. 581 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,320 All right, this is a little strong saying 20. 582 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,280 All right, what is the best way to prepare for an audience? 583 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,280 Do we use continuous compliance, automated evidence, policy 584 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,920 adding or ask AI to generate plausible excuses? 585 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,320 Which one do we pick? Which one do you like #1? 586 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:17,000 Continuous compliance, gym, automated evidence. 587 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:17,760 Yeah. OK. 588 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960 All right. I kind of like the idea of an 589 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,880 AI. You're giving me a whole bunch 590 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,760 of excuses. We'll see, if anything. 591 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,440 OK. Yeah. 592 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Continuous compliance. Yeah. 593 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,680 They're right there with your denim. 594 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,560 They're paying attention. They're going through your 595 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,480 therapy sessions. Thanks. 596 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,200 They're listening all right. Dad. 597 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,240 All right, Let's see. I don't think you see changes 598 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,320 here. Oh, John. 599 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040 John, you're coming and going. You're just kind of like in and 600 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,920 out. Yeah. 601 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Like the wind? All right, what is the most 602 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,240 common lie in the vendor hall? Is it native integration, 603 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,680 standard support, mobile scalability or best features on 604 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,080 the road map for Q1? All right, what do you? 605 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,600 Think I go with #4. It's on the road map, yes. 606 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Have you ever come across a product that did not have a 607 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,040 feature on a road map? I haven't yet. 608 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,040 So OK, let's see what people think. 609 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Is there any vendors in the room that don't? 610 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Say this, they're not that brave. 611 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,520 OK, native integration, but a lot of people like the the road 612 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,600 map item. OK, all right, we're down to a 613 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,480 minute left. A rod is still in the lead. 614 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,120 A A is still right there. All right. 615 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,240 Let's see if we get no just like that 20th spot. 616 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280 All right, what is the most dangerous access, right? 617 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Is it global admin, cloud owner root, or the interns test AI 618 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,160 agent? Open up for voting here. 619 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,480 Those interns are scary. Interns are scary. 620 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,040 They're smart. Go Landon. 621 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Yeah, okay. You gonna go interns? 622 00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:00,040 No, no, I'll go globally. Okay, all right, let's see what 623 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,920 people think. Yeah, go away before with it. 624 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,520 All right, we got 10 seconds on the clock, and I know that we're 625 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,120 holding people off from lunch, so we're going to call it here a 626 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,720 winner. Let's see what it does for our 627 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,200 scoreboard. This is it. 628 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,800 This is the winner. This is the winner. 629 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,800 A rod. All right, where's a rod? 630 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,440 Stand up. A rod. 631 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,400 Where are you at? There you are. 632 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,400 A densing AI. How do I know that you're gonna 633 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,440 densing AI? All right. 634 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480 And then a a where are you? All right, all right. 635 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Cool. All right, see us after class so 636 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120 we can get your information and get you valuable prices. 637 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,960 Again, thanks to RSM and Signal for donating those to us. 638 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,560 So it's very cool. Hopefully you had a good time. 639 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Again, I promised you wouldn't learn anything, maybe just learn 640 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960 something about yourself, which is really, you know, that's a 641 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,560 great. That's a great story, right. 642 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,480 Yeah, exactly. Enjoy lunch and thank you very 643 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,040 much. And yeah, that's it. 644 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,920 Thank you very much everyone. You've been listening to 645 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,840 Identity at the Center. We hope you've enjoyed the show. 646 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,120 Make sure to like, rate and review, and we'll be back soon. 647 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,680 But in the meantime, hit the website at 648 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:13,040 identity@thecenter.com. See you next time on Identity at 649 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,920 the Center.