This is identity at the center if it has anything to do with
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your hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Stedman.
Welcome to the Fido feud. Thank you very much.
So I'm going to give buy us a little bit of time while we're
getting the stage set up here. This is a game show that's all
about digital identity. It doesn't have anything to do
with feuding families. So if you're looking to
litigate, please look elsewhere. My name is Jeff Steadman, I'm
the host of the Identity of Center podcast.
I'm also going to be your host for the inaugural Fido feud.
So hopefully this goes well and we come back again next year.
If it doesn't, then you won't see that again.
We're going to have some fun up here.
We're going to kick off the Expo and the reception a little bit,
but first we're going to do this.
You can see we've got some buzzers being set up, we've got
surveys, we've got a very charismatic host skilled at
Winnie banter. So any resemblance to any other
similarly named game shows is purely coincidental.
So with that, let me get my team captains up here.
Let me introduce Megan Seamus from the Fido Alliance and my Co
host on the Identity of the Center podcast, Jim McDonald.
All right, so Megan's already bringing the swag.
See that here. All right Megan, yes, thanks for
being on the 1st Fido feud. Tell me about your team name.
My team name is the Glitterati. OK, all right, we got some
glitterati fans out there. And Jim, how about your team
name? 1st I got to say Steve, you look
different on TV. Little bit shorter and with less
mustache, that's for sure. What's your team name?
Jim, We. Are the identity friends?
The identity friends you. Could say identity friends at
the center I was. Going to say that was a missed
opportunity to promote the podcast.
IDC podcast.com, like and subscribe.
OK, so why don't we go ahead and get some random team members,
totally random from the crowd. I'm going to come up here.
I think I'm supposed to hit a slide, but I'm not sure.
Let's see if that worked. No.
Are there slides? There we go.
OK, so Jim's team and Megan's team.
Pam, Ian, Teresa, Shane, Jamie, Christian.
Come up and join your team captain, please.
All right, while we're getting set up here, let's go over the
rules. So we surveyed the Fido
Authenticate audience, that's you guys, asked a bunch of
digital identity questions and got those answers back.
We're going to have the top answers on the board.
Each team's going to have a buzzer that they're going to be
able to. OK, let's switch sides.
Yes, go back on that side. All right, little stage
direction. So we're good.
All right, Megan, your team goes on the other side.
All right, we want, we want symmetry, folks.
All right, so you're going to get chance to buzz in with the
answer. If you get 3 wrong answers, the
other team's going to have a chance to steal and take all the
points on the board. Whoever has the most points at
the end, wow, we've got props coming up their shots.
I mean, come on. Is this the best session of the
day or what? All right, there will be some
judges in the back to help with the answers.
And if you don't like the answers that you see, you have
only yourself to blame. These are your answers.
You came up with them. Please do not take it out on me
or anyone else up on stage. OK, so I think we've got totally
random how all these people with shirts matching came up all at
the same time. That's interesting.
I've never met these people before.
Never met these people before. OK.
All right. So team glitterati, you guys
ready? Yeah.
OK. All right.
We're ready. You guys are ready.
Audience, you guys ready? All right, OK, question #1 give
an example of a password that's easy to guess.
All right, Looks like literati got it.
Can. I have the bike password.
Password is password up on the screen #2 So Jim, you've got a
chance here if you can get the number one answer.
What give an example of a password that's easy to guess.
Admin. Admin is admin up on the board?
We're doing we're doing shots. Do you guys want to pass or
play? We would like to play Jeff.
You want to play OK, we're. Supposed to.
Do this now. There's shots being poured.
I'm not sure how this is going to work, but Christian and All
right, all right, let's get you're going to go.
OK, so give me an example of a password that's easy to guess.
Pet's name, a pet's name. Is that on the list?
Show me pet's name. No.
OK, you're doing a shot back of the line for you.
Who's next? Let's go with Andrew.
Andrew. OK.
So, Andrew. Oh, OK, shocking that that's not
a popular password, but sorry, Mr. Shakira, where you are.
All right, who's next? Christian ABC123ABC123.
Is that up on the list? Oh, OK, you're still alive.
We got still 3 answers left on Megan.
We're back to you. Give an example of a password
that's easy to guess. Cordy.
QWERTY. OK, so top row there on the
keyboard is QWERTY on the list? It is.
All right, we got 2 answers left.
Who's next? Hey, there's no.
Yeah, here we go. Give an example of a password
that's easy to guess. No.
ASDFGASDFG. OK, very random.
Is a SDFG up there? No.
OK, all right, I done it. Friends, you've got a chance to
steal, so give an example of a password that's easy to guess.
If it's up there, you take the round you have.
To spread out. Birthday.
Is birthday on the list?
No. All right, so the glitterati
take the round. Let's see number six.
Show me #6 let me in. OK?
And #1 123456 OK, All right. So I think we're hopefully
getting a feeling of how this is going to go here.
I see shots board over here and I don't know what if we're the
losers, take the shots, OK? We'll move those out of the way
for now, OK? Tell them we did or this is a
real survey. So again, these are answers from
the survey that you answered, and we took your answers and put
them up here. OK, question #2 what trend are
you most tired of in the identity and access management
space? That was quick on a draw,
glitterati. Can I ask the audience?
No. Oh, that's cool.
This is the wrong game show for that.
We'll have to try that next time.
Account recovery. Account recovery, is that a
trend that we're tired of in identity and access management
space? No, it's a.
Very applicable sound effect. No, I will say decentralized
identity. Decentralized identity.
OK. Is that a trend that we're tired
of? No.
OK, we're going to go down the line then.
Zero trust. Zero trust.
OK, that's a crowd favorite, apparently.
Is zero trust a trend that we're tired of?
There it is number one. OK, Zanker glitterati, you guys
are on the board. Do you guys want to pass or
play? We're going to pass.
OK all right because you you're
not identity friends. She she's going to cover from
the shot here. All right.
What trend are you most tired of in the identity and axis
management space IT. Dr. ITDR Identity Threat
Detection and Response. Is that on the list?
No. OK, Teresa, what's a trend
you're tired of? Password reset.
Password resets. We're tired of password resets.
We're at a conference all about passkey, so it makes sense.
Let's see. Is that on the board?
Password resets? No.
All right, Jim, you got 2 strikes. 3 strikes and you're
out. I know you like the baseball
analogies, So what trend are you most tired of in identity and
access management? I'm thinking.
AIAI OK artificial intelligence, is that on the list?
It is OK, you guys are still alive.
You have 3 Lancers left. You already have two strikes, so
the next wrong 1 is going to go back to the other side.
Pam, what trend are you most tired of in identity and access
management looking for? Help help me, help me somebody
help me I'm going to say OK I'm going to try a different but
same idea your. Audience here.
Let's try. Hey, no heckling.
Oh wait, no Heckle. We'll try wallets.
Wallets like a password wallet or like an identity wallet of
some sort? OK, Wallet is wallet up on the
list? No.
OK. All right, so glitterati, you've
got a chance to steal. Give me a trend that you're most
tired of in the identity access management space.
Megan, you're the team captain, so you got to make the decision.
Password list. Password list.
Wow. OK, that's a bold statement at a
password list conference. So let's see his password list
on this. On the list.
No. All right, identity friends,
you're on the board. You got some points.
Let's see. What else are we tired of?
Show me #4 passwords. OK.
All right, show me #3 MFA and biometrics, OK?
And then #2 Fido and passkeys. OK, Andrew, where is is is Mr.
Shiki are in the audience. Where?
OK, He's waving. I'm very sorry.
If you want to like, you know, yell at people around you,
Remember, the answers came from out there, not over here.
I have a. Thing.
To say. OK, I have a thing to say to the
judges in the back. I'm pretty sure password list
is. This should fit in the pass keys
category, but that's fine David. It's rigged.
OK, there's already drama and
controversy at the first ever Fido feud, so I'm not sure how
we're going to recover, but let's keep moving.
We've got, oh, Ian, too cool for the room.
All right, third question. Here we go.
Name a metric used to measure the effectiveness of an IM
program. I think it I I saw you do it.
Yes. OK, we'll go with you.
Yes. Next year's budget we'll have.
But. Oh, there we go.
All right. Only a little bit of a delay.
So there we go. Ian, what is the answer?
Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Good.
You pressed a button. Good job.
Successful logins. Successful logins.
Is successful logins on the list?
It is number one. All right, so do you guys want
to pass or play? We're going to play that one.
OK. All right, Teresa, you're up.
Name a metric used to measure the effectiveness of an IM
program. Password reset again.
Password reset. So password resets is password
resets on the list? It is OK reduce resets.
All right Jim, we got a clean board here. 4 answers.
Name of metric used to measure the effectiveness of an IAM
program. User satisfaction.
Are are your users happy with
your IAM program? Is that on the list?
User satisfaction? It is number 2.
All right, we're going to go back down here to Pam name a
metric used to measure the effectiveness of an IM program
number of. Breaches.
Number of breaches. So this is a number you want to
be very small. So number of breaches, is that
on the list? No, it was even a even a bad
sound effect for that one. All right, Ian, give me another
metric used to measure effectiveness of an IM program
enrollment like new user sign up, new user sign up enrollment.
So like for MFA enrollment or something like that or OK, so
MFA enrollments or something along those lines.
All right, 2 answers left. Let's see, Teresa, we're back to
you name of metric used to measure the effectiveness of an
IM program, the. Abandoned rate.
Abandoned rate OK is abandoned rate on the list?
Judges are thinking about it and no, not on the list.
Jim, it always comes down to you, you know, 2 strikes.
Can you, can you bail things out here?
If you get this wrong, it's going to go over to the
glitterati who are there powwowing with their cool
sunglasses and green shirts and all their swag.
Nanometric used to measure the effectiveness of an IM program.
Account lockouts. Account lockouts.
OK, so how effective is your program?
Account lockouts? Is account lockouts not on the
list? All right, so we're going to go
over here to the glitterati. Give me a metric that's used to
measure the effectiveness of an IM program.
Sign in speed. Sign in speed.
So how quickly you can log in. OK, sign in speed is sign in
speed on the list? It is time to response.
So glitterati is going to take that one.
Let's see what was number six Secure practices.
OK, I, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm just the messenger folks, that's
all. OK, all right, let's go.
We've got one more question. Here we go.
So let's pull the next person up.
We got Christian versus Teresa. No pressure, guys.
This is the last one we've got. He's just going to do the shot.
He's already either conceded or he's got some other problems.
So the biggest here we go number question.
All right, last question for the game.
The biggest threat to I am in the future will be Blank.
You guys even let me finish the question.
OK, we'll be Blank. Who got it.
Generative AI. Generative AI is going to be the
biggest blank for hacking into systems and demanding a ransom
of unlimited cat memes. OK, well, yeah, it cut off
there, but it is cat memes, so just FYI.
All right, is AI on the list? It is number 2.
Teresa, you got a chance to steal.
The biggest threat to I in the future will be what?
Hacking into systems and demanding a ransom of unlimited
cat memes. Social engineering.
Social Engineering. Social engineering.
OK, that's common today. Let's see, is it still going to
be common in the future? What do we think?
Social engineering is not on the list.
OK, glitterati, you've got a chance here.
Do you want to pass or play? You want to play?
OK, All right. There seems to be some
confusion, but we're going to go for it, all right?
The biggest threat to I am in the future will be what?
Hacking into systems and demanding demanding a ransom of
cat memes. Nigerians.
Nigerians OK, apologies to all of Nigeria as part of that
answer, but let's see. And if you're a Prince AA
policy, I'm happy to bring your money into the US for you.
So is Nigerians on the list? Government entities?
OK, All right, The judges have spoken and they have said that
Nigeria is a government and we're going to allow it.
OK. All right, The biggest threat to
I am in the future will be what? Hacking into systems and
demanding a ransom of unlimited cat memes.
Criminals. Criminals.
OK, and that's different from government entities, right?
OK, just double checking there. OK, so are criminals up on the
board? It is hackers APT advanced
persistence threats. All right, who's next?
The biggest threat to I am in the future will be what?
Hacking into systems and demanding a ransom of unlimited
cat memes. Next deal.
Nick Steele, Nick. Steele.
Nick Steele. OK, I don't know who you're
going to have to explain to me. What is Nick Steele?
A person. A person.
OK, if you're Nick Steele, are you on the board?
A celebrity. OK, All right, so now we've got
to watch out for celebrities hacking his house for the
future, apparently. All right, you got one answer
left on the board. Let's see who's next here.
Christians, back to you. I think the biggest threat to I
am in the future will be what? Hacking into systems and
demanding a ransom of unlimited cat memes.
Teenagers. Teenagers.
OK, are teenagers on the list? No.
OK, you still got 2 strikes. We can keep going.
So we're going back around are. You sure I can't ask the
audience we're going to go with? We've already had bots and you
said children. They just said what demographic
does that leave dude cover? Nigeria, Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Oh my goodness. IoT devices.
So our devices are going to hack
ourselves as IoT devices on the list.
Judges No. OK, two strikes left Jamie, it's
up to you Biggest threat to I am in the future will be what
hacking into systems and demanding a ransom of unlimited
cat memes. She said she's stressed out.
We're we're trying to you know, goose Frappa.
Let's be calm. Let's think about it here for a
second. The future.
What is what are these people? Look, look at this guy right
here. What do you think he thought is
going to hack us in the future? Celebrity, don't do that.
Oh, so just so she said Andrew. And then Jamie said he's not a
celebrity. Sorry, Andrew.
Oh, no, no. Megan said that.
Sorry. Yeah.
Right. OK.
All right. We need an answer.
Biggest threats I am in the future will be what?
Hacking into systems and demanding a ransom of unlimited
cat memes? Yeah.
Big tech.
OK, so if you're big tech, you
know, like a like a Google maybe or an IBM or something like
that, are you on the list? Big tech?
No. OK, all right.
You guys have a chance to steal. There's one answer left on the
board. The biggest threat to I am the
future will be what? Hacking into systems and
demanding a ransom of unlimited cat memes?
Jim. Unlimited cat?
We have to think Hello Kitty. Hello Kitty wants their cat
memes back and they're going to hack the planet essentially to
get that back. OK all right, so Hello Kitty was
the answer. Is that on the board animals.
OK judges judges have have deemed that that's appropriate.
So points are going to go over to the identity friends.
It was a close game, but the winner is actually still
glitterati, the first ever Fido Alliance.
I've got some prizes for you, the tiniest awards ever.
So here's one for everyone on the team.
So you might have to come closer if you want to get pictures
because or zoom in right? So we've got that.
So congratulations to the Glitterati team for being the
first ever winner. Let's give them a round of
applause. All right, thank you all for
being here. Want to give a shout out to
Adrian and the production crew for helping make all this
possible. If you like this, submit the
feedback so you can hopefully see us next year with better
buzzers and hopefully better answers from some of our
teammates. So with that, we've got the Expo
and the reception kicking off. We'll see you out there.
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