1 00:00:09,700 --> 00:00:12,400 You're listening to the identity of the sender podcast. 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,600 This is a show that talks about identity and access management 3 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:18,600 and making sure you know who has access to what let's get 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:27,900 started. Welcome to a special episode of 5 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:29,300 the identity at the center podcast. 6 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:32,600 I'm Jeff and that's Jim. Hey Jim hey, Jeff, how are you? 7 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,000 Oh, and that's a bad going to cut right to it today. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,800 We don't do commercials but since this is a special episode 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,400 we will help get the word out for identity conferences that we 10 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:44,300 like we're going to take a few extra minutes today to get a 11 00:00:44,308 --> 00:00:47,900 preview of the ascetic eight 2021 conference happening, 12 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:50,900 October 18th, the 20th, in Seattle, Washington, and it's 13 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:54,100 hosted by our friends at the Fido Alliance joining us today. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,000 A again is and Russia are. He's the executive director of 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,400 the fight Alliance to tell us what that is all about. 16 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:01,900 Welcome back Andrew Chef Jim great to be here. 17 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:03,500 Thank you. Yeah, thanks so much for joining 18 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:05,099 us and it's been a while since we talked. 19 00:01:05,300 --> 00:01:08,700 The last time we talked was August, 20th of actually August 20 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:11,300 in 2020. What's new with Fido since then? 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,200 First of all, that feels like two years ago. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,600 So it's a quite a bit has happened. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,900 I'll try to be succinct. You know, in general, in a photo 24 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:23,500 continues to make progress on advancing, our specifications 25 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:28,000 and related outputs our goals again to have a robust robust 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,700 set of standards that anyone could deploy to enable simpler 27 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:36,900 stronger, user authentication, helping move the market place in 28 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:41,100 the world from being dependent on dependent on passwords to a 29 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:42,900 world. That's more decentralized nature 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,600 that leverages user-friendly public key cryptography. 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,100 So basically I'm from knowledge-based authentication 32 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:53,700 to possession based authentication a couple key 33 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:57,500 things. We've done one, big release that 34 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:03,300 we had was an update to the Fido to Specs that introduced a lot 35 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:07,800 of Enterprise features which are very important and also some 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,100 some added functionality for payments and things like that. 37 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:16,800 Another key thing that got completed where ux guidelines so 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,900 user experience guidelines. At the end the day you know 39 00:02:20,900 --> 00:02:23,800 going to a password this world will be easier but getting 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,600 people to go pass for this turns out to be more nuanced and one 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,900 would think so answering questions, like, well, how do I 42 00:02:29,908 --> 00:02:33,600 get my customers to enroll a desktop platform, authenticator 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,400 like a Touch ID on a MacBook, or Windows low on Windows machine. 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,800 There's a lot of subtle things that go into that. 45 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:46,200 So we with the help of, you know, ux leads from companies, 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,000 such as Microsoft, P Morgan Chase into it Wells, Fargo and 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:58,200 many many more Visa ran, a study that had three rounds of user 48 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,300 testing to understand. Exactly what makes consumers, 49 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:04,800 most likely to enroll for Fido authentication. 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,000 And we took these learnings and built a set of guidelines around 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,700 it, which any relying party or service writer can use to most 52 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:17,600 effectively Implement Fido on their websites. 53 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,300 So we're super excited. Excited about that. 54 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,400 We release those couple months ago, I've had some positive 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,400 feedback so far and we think it's going to really help 56 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,600 accelerate adoption fight off an occasion. 57 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:32,000 And beyond that you were seeing broader commitment to fighting 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,800 the marketplace more and more big Brands, deploying Fido added 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 government endorsements including here in the US. 60 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,500 You know, just the other week, AWS, or Amazon announced that 61 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,000 any delay has customer will be provided with Fido security 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,400 keys, to make sure that those Network administrators are 63 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:53,800 securely accessing those resources. 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,900 So, we're seeing a more and more major, you know, kind of 65 00:03:56,908 --> 00:04:00,800 Milestones like that. That as we all collectively work 66 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,500 to create a safer internet. Andrew, Jeff mentioned that the 67 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:07,400 authenticate 2021 conference is in Seattle Washington. 68 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:12,000 It's starting on October 18th. My question for you is, who's 69 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,400 this conference for who should attend? 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,100 Yeah, you know we introduced authenticate last year actually 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,899 as a means to just really engage with it. 72 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:23,700 That the broader Community, we traditionally have had member 73 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:27,300 meetings in 34 member meetings a year and would hold the public. 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,500 Seminar the day before. And those are so popular both 75 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:32,600 from attendees. And from our members, that we 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,200 decided to expand upon this format and aim to provide 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,400 educational resources, to anyone interested in phyto. 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,800 But in particular, you know, product leads and strategists 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,200 60's. And those in the Cisco office, 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,600 technology leads developers. Really anyone is interested in 81 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,200 learning how to improve the way that they're authenticating. 82 00:04:58,100 --> 00:05:00,500 Deploying authentication inside the Enterprise and also 83 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:04,300 externally to Consumers. And so, last year, we held a 84 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:08,300 virtual event because last November had really strong 85 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:11,500 attendance and thousands of people are registered over a 86 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,000 two-week period. So a lot of great content and 87 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:17,800 we're super happy to build upon that by moving towards his 88 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,700 physical conference, this year in Seattle. 89 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:23,100 I love that tagline. Moving from knowledge-based 90 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:28,000 authentication to position based authentication on The 91 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,500 conference, in terms of the agenda, can you give us an 92 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:33,800 overview and talk about some of the Keynotes? 93 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:38,200 Yeah, absolutely. So our featured keynote is Bob 94 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Lord and for those of you don't know, Bob, he's a former Chief 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,400 security officer at the DNC is the Democratic National 96 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Committee. And before that he was a Yahoo 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,900 and Cisco. And we could probably have Bob 98 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:56,200 talked for three days. So he, yes, he has were stories 99 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:59,400 and perspectives. Security and authentication that 100 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,800 that are so engaging. And so Ranch, really honored to 101 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,500 have him come up, Seattle, to give that keynote. 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,700 Additionally, our signature sponsors from the event are 103 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:12,900 Google, Microsoft visa and yubico. 104 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,900 So we have Executives from each of those companies as key notes. 105 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:19,800 As well, each room has a different perspective. 106 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:25,600 Google is going to talk about Android in Microsoft. 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,400 Of course, is deeply committed to Fido and Jesus has to my 108 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Dandy products rolling out and yubico of course, is the, you 109 00:06:33,008 --> 00:06:36,300 know, the originator if I do security keys and has a lot of 110 00:06:36,308 --> 00:06:38,600 learnings to share as well. So those are the six. 111 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,300 Those are the key notes. We have some others as well, 112 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:44,900 some kind of industry luminary, speaking on the main stage and 113 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:49,200 then the format of the event itself, is you part main stage 114 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,400 /, keynote presentations, and then multitrack and will 115 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,000 generally have one track dedicated to kind of deeper, 116 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 technical insights. One track focused on case 117 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,000 studies kind of market adoption type Trends and both to are 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,500 chock-full of interesting content that I think people will 119 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:08,200 learn a lot from when they attend Jeff and I will be in 120 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,600 attendance as well. Were presenting a presentation 121 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,600 called smart. I am to help prevent ransomware 122 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,600 risk, it's just looking over the agenda, I think there's a ton of 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,000 great information out there, you know, obviously I wanted you to 124 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,300 help, keep it high level and focus on the Keynotes. 125 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:32,600 But if people want to understand more about what they could learn 126 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,300 and what the different presentations are going to be 127 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:38,500 during the conference, where can they go to get that information? 128 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,500 Do you have a website? Yeah, absolutely. 129 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:43,900 We have the full agenda on our website, authentic authenticate 130 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:48,800 com.com authenticate conference authenticate com.com I can see 131 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,800 the full agenda, just a couple more highlights if I could, you 132 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,800 know, case studies were always quite popular and it will 133 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,900 anecdote on this We did call for papers you have two. 134 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:03,600 Three, two, two and a half three day conference are two tracks. 135 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:08,900 I'll told they had around 35 open spots and we had many fold 136 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:12,100 that in submitted applications including your own. 137 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:15,200 And so we have a program Committee of Industry, 138 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,900 luminaries who helped me narrow it down to the selected selected 139 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:24,300 sessions that we do have. But the case studies are always 140 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:25,900 one of my favorite. Things to see coming in there, 141 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:29,100 unsolicited, we have Case studies from groups like Morgan. 142 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,700 Stanley, Capital One, Target, eBay. 143 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,400 Verizon Wayfarer the US National Guard, Facebook, and many more. 144 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,600 So I've always heard from our community that they like 145 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,400 learning from others who have already done the same. 146 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 And, you know, this case to case studies are an excellent 147 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,600 foundation for them. Yeah, I'm looking forward to 148 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,500 catching those as well, you know, wouldn't be a conference 149 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:53,800 conversation in 2021 without talking about covid. 150 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,700 It's clearly had an impact on things like in person, 151 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:59,400 attendance for things. This, how are you preparing for 152 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,700 that? And what about things like you 153 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:03,600 know vaccinations and statuses and things like that? 154 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,000 You know, I think all of us who in the past have attended 155 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,300 conferences, miss that human interaction, and is very 156 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:13,000 important to Fido Alliance. So to execute on this 157 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,500 conference, I personally attended identifiers back in 158 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,200 June and that's always my favorite identity, show to go 159 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,400 to, and it was wonderful as a smaller subset of people than 160 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:25,900 usually attend that conference. But being able to chat with 161 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:31,900 people in the hallways, He's after my talks after booze, you 162 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:35,000 know, you find so much hidden value through those 163 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,800 conversations that frankly just wouldn't happen over resume. 164 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:41,600 So with that in mind, with our commitment to having this event, 165 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:44,100 we absolutely are also committed to having it be perfectly safe 166 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:46,100 as safe as possible. That's perfect. 167 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:49,000 Um and so requiring vaccination, right? 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,400 So your to attend, you must be vaccinated, we have the policy 169 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,100 detail on the website but in short now we're going to be 170 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:59,900 using the clear out I was just also been used for other events 171 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:03,000 and attendees will be asked to upload their proof of 172 00:10:03,008 --> 00:10:06,500 vaccination into the app. There's a simple health 173 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:11,600 screening on the app is done, the day of registration to test 174 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,700 the fact that you have been healthy addition to your 175 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:18,000 vaccination. In addition to that it will be 176 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,100 adhering to all federal and local Health guidelines. 177 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,500 So you know, I'm very confident that we're going to have a very 178 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Safe and healthy event. I've had very positive feedback 179 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:35,600 on the vaccination requirement. I've been told by several people 180 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,800 that's helped them internally tell their management that not 181 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,200 only do I want to go to, this is safe for me to attend and I hope 182 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,800 that many people find that to be the case or able to come have a 183 00:10:46,808 --> 00:10:51,200 very robust event. You, most of stuff will happen 184 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,100 on site at the hotel, which also has her own hygiene regimen, but 185 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:57,500 I also want to plug and we have a great social event. 186 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,500 Night at the mo pop Museum. This is the Museum of pop 187 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:03,800 culture used to be the Jimi Hendrix Museum, awesome, venue, 188 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,200 and Seattle, the, so, we have a really good event to cap things 189 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,100 off on Wednesday evening. It sounds like a lot of fun and 190 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:13,800 I'm glad that, you know, the precautions being taken, I can 191 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,100 certainly attest to the Clear app and the digital vaccine 192 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:17,400 card. I've done it, it's easy. 193 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:21,000 Yeah, you take a picture youth indicate, so I'm happy to see 194 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,100 that a senate conference is using good authentication. 195 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:26,300 Yeah, for that sort of thing. A heater on dog food. 196 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:29,000 Exactly. So I'm going to go ahead and 197 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,800 wrap up this conversation. We get someone in to kind of 198 00:11:30,808 --> 00:11:33,500 keep it brief and kind of get the word out for folks, who 199 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:37,200 might be interested again, it's the authentic 8 2021 conference, 200 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,500 it's October 18th to the 20th in Seattle. 201 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,900 Washington, it's in person or virtual. 202 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,400 You can visit a Theta, Kate con.com for more info and if 203 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,400 you're interested in learning more about the fight Alliance, 204 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,400 you can visit Fido Alliance dot-org. 205 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,300 It can also go into the Wayback machine and listen to episode 56 206 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:57,500 of this podcast where we first met with Andrew and kind of 207 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,200 learn more about what Fido does Jim mentioned. 208 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:04,000 He and I are going to be are planning on being on site there 209 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,600 and delivering our presentation. So we hope to see everyone there 210 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,300 either in person or virtually and with that we're going to go 211 00:12:09,308 --> 00:12:11,100 ahead and close out this brief conversation. 212 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,100 Thank you so much. Andrew looking forward to 213 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,900 getting a fist bump in. Finally, in person at a 214 00:12:15,908 --> 00:12:19,200 conference, it'll be my first since this kind of all started 215 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:21,000 but I will go ahead and leave it there. 216 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Thanks for listening and we hope to see you in a few weeks. 217 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,700 Thanks so much. Thanks for listening to the 218 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,500 identity at the center podcast. If you like what you heard, 219 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:35,800 don't forget to subscribe and visit us on the web and identity 220 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,700 at the center.com.