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OK, thank you, Jim. 
I so probably about two weeks. 

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It's not even 2 weeks, maybe 
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Since since one whole week I 
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sight. 
I guess you could call it. 

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I can actually see fairies. 
Yes, and many children see them 

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children today are being born 
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And when your children talk with
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playmates, the chances are 
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some of these people. 
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forces, or nature spirits as 
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make themselves seen, seen, 
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And all of a sudden I hear him 
go whoa, or, you know, something

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like that. 
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see this Sing sing sing. 
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butterfly like you before. 
I know that the paranormal is 

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real. 
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As soon as I spoke to it, it 
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contact with me and then it 
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And it was at that moment that I
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appeared above this row of 
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Then from this orange light this
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It's wings were actually like 
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And I started talking to them. 
I'm like, hi, are you all the 

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dwarfs? 
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would say hi, yeah, you want to 
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And it wasn't just my 
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And I had told them, I'm like my
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know, And my dad's like, yeah, 
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And his beer slid upwards 
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How the house was tilted. 
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off. 
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I'm just kind of, my mind draws 
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that tree stump. 
I'm pretty close to it now 

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because I took a few steps 
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thing. 
Thin, thin, thin, thin. 

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Welcome everybody tonight to 
Fascinating Faye. 

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Tonight we're travelling to 
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With Brooke, Brooke. 
How are things going down under?

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They're very interesting at the 
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So I just woken up a little bit 
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here and I'm awake so. 
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scenes tidbit, it's actually mid
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but we're still going to say 
welcome everybody tonight. 

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Yeah. 
Oh yeah, of course. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Brooke, I'm just going to spend 

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one minute introducing the 
format of the show to you and 

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the audience listening because 
you never know who's dropping in

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for the first time. 
Is it cool with you if I take a 

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moment to do that please? 
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Cool. 
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business here at the fascinating
Fey Enterprise is that we are 

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not trying to convince anybody 
of anything. 

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This is extremely important, you
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faith phenomena, vision of 
fairies, first hand encounters 

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is extremely difficult to 
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uninitiated. 
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convince me to convince the 
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I'm just here to listen to what 
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people is that it is extremely 
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That is not a platitude. 
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the offline portion of our 
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Daniel. 
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got some hesitations. 
That is extremely normal. 

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And I just want you to know I 
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benefit from it, extremely 
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with others. 
For that reason, I encourage you

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to tell me you know everything 
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likelihood that someone else 
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relieved by what you've said and
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is very high at this point. 
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dozens of times in the show. 
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and it is brave to come on the 
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Finally, I just like to say that
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Fascinating Faye is that I just 
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have as much time and space as 
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or sometimes even like years 
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Whatever you feel you know is 
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connected in your mind can be 
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your intuition, the context, 
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that kind of stuff. 
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saying this, like for the 
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some great emails back and forth
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It's a great way to start a 
conversation with me like Brooke

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has here tonight. 
I know there's some really 

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interesting synchronicities 
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having some incredible stuff 
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You can start kind of wherever 
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But if you'd be so kind, Brooke,
if you would sort of walk myself

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in the audience into what brings
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tonight, I'd be really, really 
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OK, thank you, Jim. 
I so probably about two weeks. 

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It's not even 2 weeks, maybe 
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since since one whole week I, 
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site, I guess you could call it.
I can actually see fairies now. 

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So that's, that's what's 
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I please, please, please feel 
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forth. 
I I I think I really need the 

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direction. 
I was just about to. 

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Say, let me help you with some 
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It can be intimidating to just 
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that before this, you know, 
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fairies. 
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get to that in a second because 
that is fucking incredible. 

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But let's kind of kind of go 
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get interested in fairies? 
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Lifelong thing? 
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question. 
So where did the interest start?

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Would be maybe? 
Just a good place to start here.

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child, you're very much 
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something that pretty typically 
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played a lot. 
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from when we were little. 
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my dad's one of his tables in 
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when I was in high school. 
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experiences in my life where it 
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just can't explain. 
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parents on a few occasions about
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things happening. 
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they believe in the in ghosts 
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of experiences like that. 
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family or anything. 
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Sometimes I wonder like who is 
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about allowing yourself to be 
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the access to community, which 
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That's interesting. 
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blabbing away here because the 
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much just that. 
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expert. 
Not an expert over here. 0 

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expertise I just kind of think 
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that often lifelong. 
What were some of these, if even

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just one, that you know? 
No pressure to remember, but can

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you remember any or? 
Some of the like events you're 

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describing that just didn't 
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Did you want it more fair 
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Like sometimes people have these
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disappearing, reappearing 
objects or you know, near misses

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that are of avoiding calamity 
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It could be really anything like
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type of thing that stands out. 
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some events that defy 
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Whatever kind of comes up to 
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That you might feel like 
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I'm just kind of. 
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about your past as we. 
Gravitate towards this recent 

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events when we started chatting,
but you know, is there anything 

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that stands out that you might 
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Yeah, So there is, this is. 
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think when I was about, I would 
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and this is probably one of the 
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sort of unexplainable 
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happened to me. 
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notice those things. 
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at that age. 
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little while ago, I had a little
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think I sort of I had one and 
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you know, and I went back to 
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a really light, light one, not, 
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blocks that they were. 
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as you do. 
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dream and I would hear the, the 
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it a couple of times. 
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and, and I was like, oh. 
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the door actually, because I was
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Or did you hear something? 
And he, and he heard the Dun 

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Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun Dun. 
You know that tone? 

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I thought it was in my dream. 

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So my phone at the time, I 
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my bed and it was just sitting 
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I so I picked it up and there 
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There was no no like history, no
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that the the Internet dropped 
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I asked my dad did it, how many 
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And he said he heard it at least
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like 4 or 5 minutes apart. 
The full Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, 

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Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun Dun. 
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coming from here? 
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clearly. 
And she said it's coming from 

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your bedroom. 
And I looked through my phone 

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and I mean, I was like, that's 
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have on, you know, So I had like
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Nokia ringtone. 
I was like, well, why is that 

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making that noise? 
It's not that's doesn't even 

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make that noise when you kind of
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the the sorry signal. 
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really flabbergasted and we, we 
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the kitchen and we looked 
through to find the old phones 

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and, and we were like, OK, so we
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Where is it coming from? 
And what? 

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So we were looking at these 
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old phones in the drawer, 
they're dead, like they're not 

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on. 
And we just couldn't explain it.

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And, and I, I said, well, I 
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And I said, was it definitely 
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And he said it was. 
So that's something that's 

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probably one of the first things
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I, we still to this day just 
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for what was going on there. 
And then since then, I think my 

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dad actually was either talking 
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before in that house. 
He did have some experience with

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the paranormal. 
I think they had mom and dad had

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something sit on their bed, so 
they they felt it sit on their 

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bed. 
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that at the time though, because
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want to scare me so. 
You know what's so interesting 

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is as you, as you, as you were 
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interesting is that as you were 
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I was getting like these full 
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Waves of goosebumps. 
And it's, it's often weird, like

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I do think if I have a guest and
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real phenomenon or a real Fey, 
they will come and visit here my

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end and make sure that I know 
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retelling of something 
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I, I, I can't say what that was.
But I do think that they 

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communicate using technology and
I think they play little games 

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to get your attention. 
Anyway, I just needed to share 

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that with you. 
Occasionally when a guest is 

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telling me something sort of 
small or benign, I get totally 

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overwhelmed with goosebumps and 
I never really figure out what 

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that is about. 
But I've taken it to me and it's

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sort of like indicator that 
someone is telling me something 

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true or that is Faye related is 
more accurate I guess. 

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But that's just me and my 
goosebumps it. 

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It could literally be nothing, 
but I just thought I'd share 

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that with you. 
I don't believe it's nothing 

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actually, because after this 
whole eye opening event recently

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I've just had to get a reading 
from this woman who who actually

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did. 
Sorry, I gotta tell you, no, it 

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it what whatever is up is now 
definitely like just sort of 

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right next to me, right on my 
right hand side here. 

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Cool. 
Cool, cool. 

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Yeah. 
Interesting like drop in 

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temperature going on and keep 
talking. 

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You had a reading. 
I'm just just letting you. 

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Know I'm having weird impact 
over here but listening to you. 

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Yeah, So I I hadn't actually. 
So this is a woman I hadn't met 

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a few metaphysical classes with.
So that that sort of something 

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that I then ended up doing when 
I was around maybe 1718 years 

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old, I went to her classes each 
week and we we talk about that 

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in a second, but I hadn't spoken
to her for like over 15 years. 

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I've had her on my Facebook and 
yeah, you comment and like stuff

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and whatnot, but I hadn't 
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time. 
And, and she's since like she's 

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moved in to Queensland. 
So she's, she's away from where 

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I am. 
But I once this kind of second 

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sight really kicked in and I was
thinking like, what the hell is 

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going on? 
And I, I just need some 

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reassurance that everything is 
OK and I'm not going to die soon

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or something because it's just 
crazy. 

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She so I, I booked her a reading
with her because she's, she's 

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still offering readings and, and
that's what she did when she, 

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she did the classes down here 
and not as she doesn't do them 

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as much, but I feel like she's, 
she explained to me that she's 

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going in and out of she kind of 
stepped away a bit. 

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From that and and now she's 
really feeling like she's she's 

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needing to go back and and do 
more of the clairvoyant work. 

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So Speaking of goosebumps, when 
I, I saw her, we had a zoom one 

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hour meeting. 
So I told her like, look, I'm 

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seeing these things and I just 
need to hear some messages 

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because for me, I at the moment 
at least, I am not hearing 

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anything. 
I, I am more of an intuitive 

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feeling person, but I'm also a 
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So I just needed to, I feel 
she's a she, she's a very 

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confident reader. 
And so she got, she got the 

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goosebumps as well. 
She whenever she said something 

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to me or when I was telling her 
things about what was going on, 

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she, she was like, Oh yeah, I 
have got so many goosebumps all 

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over me. 
And she said I couldn't just 

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feel them all around me. 
And she actually said, because I

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don't even know how to, I don't 
know how to use zoom. 

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I didn't even have the the 
little text message thing open 

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and the message she had for me 
was that they basically I'm here

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to help them be help. 
I wrote notes, sorry on that 

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day. 
I have, I have, I'm here to help

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them heal and I am here to help 
the basically the earth to be 

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protected and get the message 
out that we need to look after 

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the planet because we're sharing
this home with the fairy realm. 

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And she got this message sent to
her from my side and it was a 

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high 5. 
And she said, I know you're not 

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doing anything because I can see
you and your, your hands aren't 

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moving. 
And I didn't even have that that

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section open. 
Sorry, the high 5 is true. 

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That was true I got. 
I haven't stopped feeling a 

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little odd since you've been 
talking here. 

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That's really special. 
You, you're, you're very in 

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tune. 
Look, it's that is so nice to to

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also hear that you're getting 
those feelings. 

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Uh huh. 
And I've seen it happen in front

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of my very eyes when the 
computer does things that are 

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beyond function. 
And I do think, like, as odd as 

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it may sound at first pass, the 
nature of time is totally 

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different for the Fay realm. 
And so to us, what seems like 

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events separated by many hours 
or days or even years to them is

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maybe perhaps all part of the 
same stroke of the pen, you 

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know, as they're writing that 
little passage to capture our 

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attention. 
The the great part about it is 

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we'll never exactly know. 
However, I mean, I do a lot of 

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calls, I should remind you and 
the audience listening. 

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I do a do a good number of calls
that I never publish. 

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I really do spend like 2 to 4 
hours talking to at least one to

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two people a month that I never 
publish. 

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And the reason being is that 
there can be a kind of 

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hopefulness that it's fairies 
when it's clear that someone is 

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having perhaps a little bit of a
challenging time. 

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And but when I listen to it. 
Like you or a great example 

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would be as I listen to Percy 
talk about her wings. 

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There are moments producing this
show that are undeniably lit up 

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to me, that mimic or feel like 
the same kind of feeling I had 

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when I saw my fairy and have had
other experiences. 

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I take that to be very 
validating, but it's just an 

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internal feeling. 
I'm just saying it on the mic. 

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It's not scientific. 
But if I, if that happens to me 

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during an episode, I publish 
those ones, that's for sure. 

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Let's just put it that way. 
Interesting. 

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Yeah. 
No, Absolutely. 

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I I yeah. 
Publish it or don't publish it. 

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I I I I'm really happy to talk. 
I I, but I actually I, I, I hope

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you do because I feel like I 
have to get this message out as 

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well. 
I just wanted to sort of say, 

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like the first bit that you told
me about the cell phone really 

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got my goosebumps going. 
And then it's interesting that 

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you've kind of jumped ahead a 
bit in time to this reading, 

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though I do think it's related. 
And that's what I mean about 

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sometimes it's cool to just jump
around over large periods of 

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time when telling stories. 
You're on the show. 

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No, it's valid. 
It's extremely valid and I hope 

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that that's something that 
doesn't detract from people's 

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knowledge on it. 
And if I feel it's related with 

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a goosebump wave never ending 
for like 4 minutes there. 

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There's something up there's I'm
sort of getting. 

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I feel compelled to say a couple
things. 

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That's why I'm interrupting. 
No, that's why I'm letting you. 

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I, I, I need to hear whatever 
you you're getting it. 

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Yeah, I don't know where this is
coming from exactly, but perhaps

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what you've said has struck A 
chord for me. 

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As an unusual approach to your 
storytelling that has started 

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here tonight, don't worry, we're
going to land the plane. 

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But I don't know why the fairies
choose certain people, but they 

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do choose a type and they choose
resilient people. 

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And it's a kind of. 
Morality compass that they 

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possess in my estimation, 
although I don't have any 

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backing proof for that. 
But I think that they like 

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people that they can trust. 
And I think one of the ways that

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they measure who they can trust 
as they look to people that have

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overcome difficulties and 
maintain an even keel, because 

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seeing them is a difficulty. 
And so they they don't overwhelm

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people that can't handle it, for
one. 

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And they want to know that you, 
what you're going to do with it 

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when you see them is is going to
be well-intentioned and so. 

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As disjointed as. 
Even my own life, I'm talking 

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personally, so many of the 
events of my life felt like just

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chaos for most of my adult life 
is only in retrospect and 

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through this emerging lens of 
producing the show that I am 

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starting to realize it's all 
just been kind of A1 big fairy 

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test and that. 
You could. 

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You could. 
Trade the word fairy for God, or

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you could trade the word fairy 
for the universe. 

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But something is watching what 
we do and cares and there's a 

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reward of type for overcoming 
your situation. 

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And part of that is you get a 
big old fairy wrapped barbed 

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wire wrapped gift, which is an 
existential crisis when the true

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nature. 
Of reality is revealed to you, 

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but you can't get there easily. 
You can't get there lightly. 

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Everything you're sort of not 
saying and that I'm hearing from

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you gives me this strong, very 
true impression about you. 

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So I'm super happy to have you 
on the show. 

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And I, I'm starting to 
understand why listening to the 

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show and a couple of other 
things leading up to it have 

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produced this recent outcome. 
So you're in, you're in good 

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company here. 
You're you're right at home at 

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fascinating FA. 
I hope that you feel that way. 

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Yeah, Well, I, I on that note, I
as I may, I took note of what 

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you said about your friend and 
how he's he's I think I remember

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you saying this once before in 
an episode. 

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I heard that he he took his own 
life. 

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I didn't really realize that it 
was because he he had like a he 

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said that he he could see a lot 
and he couldn't really handle it

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or something. 
Is that what you? 

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That is basically it, you know, 
And no shade on my friend, 

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because it's not like. 
He couldn't handle it. 

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Not like that at all. 
It's more like there was no real

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support or contemporary like 
back then. 

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OK, this is more than 10 years 
ago now. 

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There was no modern fairy 
sightings podcast. 

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There was no fairy whispering 
podcast. 

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There was no fascinating Fay. 
There was barely. 

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A flicker on Reddit and a 
handful of fucking back posts. 

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I mean, it's like even on 
Facebook, Lee, there was nothing

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to lead you to believe that if 
you were seeing fairies, you 

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were having a valid experience. 
There was nothing to confirm for

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you what happened. 
In fact, just to kind of 

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elaborate on this as we're 
talking about it and you asked 

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is he went looking for answers 
and. 

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Like predatory forces, like took
this, you know, beautiful, 

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vulnerable, amazing man who is 
super sensitive and open and 

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being given the gift of second 
sight. 

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And they predated on his bank 
account and his mind. 

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You know, numerous people said, 
come do this ayahuasca ceremony 

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and I'll give you guidance. 
Numerous people said, come do 

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this mushroom ceremony and I'll 
give you guidance. 

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These are unskilled, untrained, 
you know, ad hoc providers of 

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services, often out of their 
homes, you know, but he was 

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desperate for understanding. 
And if someone said hey, I can 

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help you understand that he he 
explored it. 

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And that's valid, but what 
happened is that those forces of

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the initial and sustained vision
and then the mix of unsatisfying

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answers delivered in a totally 
chaotic, you know, non 

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structured way, all based on the
need for these people to profit 

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and have their ego stroked about
what they know and what they can

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teach and share. 
He was a. 

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Mess by the end and the visions 
didn't stop. 

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And what was once like an 
extremely powerful community 

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leader, bandleader, I mean, 
there was like 2000 people at 

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his funeral. 
He was icon of the community. 

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This was not some sad guy in the
corner. 

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You know, he was truly like 
championing, just like you said,

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saving the world. 
This big, big part of his like 

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being and what he was working 
on. 

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I think that's why they chose 
him to have vision because he 

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was an ally. 
But it overwhelmed him 

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ultimately and left him 
isolated. 

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That's honestly probably 95% of 
the reason I do this show. 

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The 5% is I saw what I saw and 
then it's the 95% is my guilt of

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not understanding him back then 
is what keeps me doing the show 

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so that I can be here for people
like you and others that might 

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want to talk about what's going 
on with them. 

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Simple as that basically. 
Yeah, yeah. 

448
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Well, I, I can completely 
understand. 

449
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,960
And it's just I, as you were 
saying that I, I remembered a, a

450
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,160
story as well, which is actually
something, not a story, but 

451
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,160
something that happened a few 
years back. 

452
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:54,200
And it's something that I hold 
on to because so with your 

453
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,160
friend, sorry, I'm jump jumping 
back and forth a little bit, but

454
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640
I'll, I'll say why I brought it 
up. 

455
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:09,080
Firstly, I in the recent, maybe 
at least six months, I've been 

456
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
going through a very, very dark 
time. 

457
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,880
And I didn't realize it was 
going to get like a lump in my 

458
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,440
throat just then. 
And yeah, my, my, my 

459
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,960
relationship fell apart as well.
So sorry. 

460
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,080
We've been together for about 4 
1/2 years and everything just 

461
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,880
sort of, it just got really 
hard. 

462
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,400
We're both very sensitive people
and we kind of, I think just 

463
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:48,400
trying to live like a, a typical
normal life because I've spent 

464
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000
the last over 10 years 
travelling around. 

465
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,840
So just doing all these kind of,
yeah, being in different 

466
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,800
countries and, and, and being 
around all these different 

467
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,440
people and having all these 
different experiences. 

468
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,920
And anyway, we've ended up like 
trying to live a normal life. 

469
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,040
And I think we, we went to 
alcoholism to really just try 

470
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,120
and deal with things that we 
ourselves haven't dealt with 

471
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,320
deep within our themselves. 
And it kind of just came to a 

472
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,800
head struggling with, you know, 
money and, and God wasn't able 

473
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,320
to work because I was unhappy. 
I couldn't fit into the world. 

474
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,400
And it, it was the city as well.
And I can't, I can't go back to 

475
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,120
a city. 
Like I just can't. 

476
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:54,000
And, but basically I, I've been 
suicidal on and off the last few

477
00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:04,920
months and I, I've had a lot of 
like help just with feeling 

478
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,280
really supported by my parents. 
So that's where I'm living back 

479
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,920
back at home. 
Didn't think I would ever be 

480
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,280
back at home in my 30s like 
that. 

481
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,560
But yeah, it's just I, I, I 
couldn't be more sure about the 

482
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:30,440
fact that it's the right thing. 
But with your with you saying 

483
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,159
that your friend, yeah, ended 
his life. 

484
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,520
And I'm so sorry to hear that 
that happened, that he didn't 

485
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:47,960
have the support and he kind of 
was he he he didn't 

486
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:55,960
unfortunately have some sort of 
information for him before all 

487
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:04,240
of that or or. 
So basically what I was going to

488
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,400
say is that when I was talking 
to Ruby the other day, I we 

489
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,640
talked a little bit about our 
own like sort of personal 

490
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,320
struggles. 
And I just said to her, like, 

491
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:20,560
look, I think if this had 
happened, this, this awakening 

492
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,880
had happened anytime in the 
past, I don't think I would be 

493
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,160
able to handle it. 
So I, I think I've gone through 

494
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:37,680
a lot of shit to get here. 
I've, I've, I've, I've, I've had

495
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:44,640
some very, very hard times in 
my, in my life. 

496
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,400
I don't think a lot of people 
realise from the outside and 

497
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,320
from travelling and because 
I've, I've basically just tried 

498
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,440
to escape and not regretting 
what I, I did and everything. 

499
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,240
But it's, I've, I've just come 
back to the realisation that 

500
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,880
wherever you go, you take 
yourself. 

501
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:18,600
So I, I've just had to, yeah, 
it's just come to this breaking 

502
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,040
point. 
But on the note of this, the 

503
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,760
suicide, sorry, my voice is 
breaking up. 

504
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,240
I, I when I was living back in, 
I was living in New Zealand in 

505
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,160
2000. 
And well, I've been, I've lived 

506
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,760
there a lot actually over the 
last few years. 

507
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,640
But I met a girl who she, we, we
worked in the same place and 

508
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,720
shared the same bedroom. 
We lived together. 

509
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:58,000
She's from the US and she, she 
really grounded me because I, I,

510
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,200
I'm a very like in my head. 
I'm I, I especially when I was 

511
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,880
younger, very not understanding 
why, why I'm a certain way, why 

512
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,160
I have so many intense emotions 
and so up and down. 

513
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,440
So that's something that started
to become clearer for me in the 

514
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:26,080
last few months. 
But she's so she was very far 

515
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:35,680
from home and and she became 
like a like a sister to me. 

516
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,760
Well, she's she what she said to
me is that you remind me so much

517
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,480
of my sister. 
You, you, she like her sister 

518
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,000
was back in the US and, and, but
we just had so much fun 

519
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,600
together. 
And and I think the the way how 

520
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,120
emotional I was because she, she
really had to Get Me Out of bed.

521
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:03,320
Some days I just wasn't getting 
out of bed is of how whatever I 

522
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,040
was going through. 
And she said, you remind me so 

523
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:12,320
much of my sister. 
You're you're so just have so 

524
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,560
much like intense emotions. 
And I don't really know what the

525
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,520
words that she said were, but 
she yeah, we we just balanced 

526
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:28,680
each other out. 
And so we, we, we had some 

527
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,240
really fun, wonderful times in 
New Zealand. 

528
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,520
And then, you know, ultimately, 
like you kind of move on and, 

529
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,600
and you go and do continued 
travels. 

530
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,760
And anyway, I, the next year I 
was, I was back in Australia 

531
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,440
working out in the middle of 
nowhere. 

532
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,960
And she, sorry, I'll try and not
say I'm too bad. 

533
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,440
She, she was back in the US, 
She'd been there for a little 

534
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,720
bit and I just randomly got this
message from her one day saying 

535
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:10,360
that my sister killed herself 
yesterday. 

536
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,720
I just want you to know that I 
love you so much. 

537
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,240
And I I just can't believe that 
that was one of the first people

538
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:26,800
that she, she, she felt like she
had to do that is to reach out 

539
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,880
to me. 
And I know she needed to tell 

540
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,440
someone, but it's not something 
that you would want to do. 

541
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,720
I wouldn't really think of that.
Is that you do you send that to 

542
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,080
someone straight after you've 
lost your only sibling? 

543
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,480
And that's what it seems that's 
really helped, helped me hold on

544
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,880
is people in my life and I can't
ever leave them. 

545
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Brooke. 
Don't say sorry. 

546
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,840
Don't say sorry at all. 
I just want to say thank you for

547
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,480
sharing that. 
I understand what you're saying.

548
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,520
You received that message and it
it's giving you actually a kind 

549
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,880
of. 
Hope, in a strange way, I 

550
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,920
understand that exactly 
actually. 

551
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,720
And you know what? 
You, you definitely belong here,

552
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,520
and I hope that you. 
Stick around, see what tomorrow 

553
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,600
brings, as I always say. 
Yeah, yeah, basically that, that

554
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,600
I'll just finish that off with 
she. 

555
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,480
She'd got into the pasta and she
had some sort of awakening and 

556
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,680
they didn't. 
Yeah. 

557
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,880
Like you said, they they're not 
professionals and they didn't 

558
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,400
have, you know, they could, they
didn't help. 

559
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,880
They like they, they, they 
didn't support her like she 

560
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
needed. 
And that's how that that made-up

561
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,960
happen. 
But my number is 44 or 444. 

562
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,280
That's something that I 
experienced a lot before I did 

563
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,200
go travelling. 
It started then and it's just, 

564
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:19,760
it's with me my whole life. 
I won't get into the 4444 stuff 

565
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,360
at the moment, but because it's 
crazy. 

566
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,240
But just with that, that was 
that was her sister's number. 

567
00:41:36,190 --> 00:41:40,950
Oh, I just heard. 
Did you hear that? 

568
00:41:42,590 --> 00:41:44,230
Something weird happened there, 
yes. 

569
00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:51,790
I heard forehead repeated. 
Yeah, the show will do that. 

570
00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:55,560
Yeah, yeah. 
It's not just my goosebumps. 

571
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,320
The the show has like a little 
bit of a feedback loop of its 

572
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,360
own so. 
It might be Yeah, it just 

573
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,920
sounded really like funny. 
So yeah, she. 

574
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,680
So she was looking through my 
pictures and and her sister 

575
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,960
actually had a Yeah, her. 
Her Facebook profile is still 

576
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,720
active to this day. 
This is back in 2018, I think 

577
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,480
now. 
And but yeah, she was looking 

578
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,440
through my pictures and there 
was this picture of me with the 

579
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,080
crystal in my forehead. 
And and then suddenly her sister

580
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,040
was tagged right on that crystal
and she messaged me. 

581
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,400
She messaged me and she said, 
well, because I obviously got 

582
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,720
the notification and something 
that she was tagged in that as 

583
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:41,440
well. 
And she was like, I didn't do 

584
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,200
that. 
She said my, my sister is tagged

585
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,600
now in your photo and I didn't 
do that and it was right. 

586
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,360
It's right. 
To this day it's still there. 

587
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:01,000
So that's that's something. 
Honestly, that got me pretty 

588
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,280
good with goosebumps too. 
What an interesting conversation

589
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,000
with you tonight, Brooke. 
My goodness. 

590
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,280
I actually, I didn't realize 
when I went there, I, I was with

591
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,600
my friend when she spread her 
sister's ashes, some of her 

592
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640
ashes. 
So I, that was pretty wild. 

593
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,440
So, yeah, just so where did we, 
how did we end up there? 

594
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,880
Oh, because I just wanted to 
mention about the, the kind of 

595
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,720
just being able to handle this. 
And, and that's something that I

596
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,880
feel, you know, these moments 
that I've gone through is 

597
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,400
that's, that's what's going to 
help me hold on because I'm, 

598
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,600
this is pretty, this is really, 
and I can understand why some 

599
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,040
people can't handle it. 
And I, I don't want to keep it 

600
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,720
to myself. 
I don't want to keep it in. 

601
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:54,160
I don't want to go out and try 
and find reasons. 

602
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,960
I've gone to a Vipassana before 
and I left, I left because I 

603
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,320
actually got a toothache. 
Do you know what Vipassana is? 

604
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,600
No, like a a type of meditation,
yes. 

605
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Yeah, so you go to a it's, it's 
all around the world. 

606
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:21,880
Yeah, 10 days of not speaking 
and just meditating all day. 

607
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,960
So you can understand that 
there's, yes, there's so many 

608
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,880
crazy stories of people just 
kind of like wanting to escape. 

609
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,280
And I actually gone to 1 before 
that, my friend's sister had 

610
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000
gone to one. 
But yeah, I, I actually left 

611
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,760
because I got a really bad 
toothache and I was just like, 

612
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640
so glad to leave on day seven, I
think it was. 

613
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:59,080
So I, I got what I needed. 
And I probably, if I, I feel 

614
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640
like, if I did stay any longer 
and something like that may have

615
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,280
happened to me as well. 
So I'm, I'm really grateful for 

616
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,000
that. 
May I? 

617
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,960
May I ask a question your your 
friend's sister had gone to 

618
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,280
something similar and had like 
an awakening and then following 

619
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,520
this is when she took her wife. 
Is that what? 

620
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:26,400
You told me. 
Yeah, so basically she she from 

621
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:34,560
what I recollect my friend 
telling me, she she had this, 

622
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:45,040
she basically had this like what
is it? 

623
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:54,600
What is it called when the not 
like Shakti? 

624
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Sorry, I'm just going sorry, 
probably cut this part out. 

625
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,160
I just need to, I really need to
find the word for this. 

626
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:12,880
You know, when Kundalini 
awakening, that's what I was 

627
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,520
looking for. 
She believes so she. 

628
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,080
Yeah, my friend believes that 
her sister had that Anna and she

629
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,600
didn't know how to handle it. 
These places, they run off from 

630
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:32,680
volunteering volunteers and 
they're not, they're, yeah, 

631
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,520
they're just, they're people. 
You can volunteer if you've done

632
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,240
one, you've, if you've 
completed. 

633
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,880
I don't know if it's one or two 
of the, the 10 days of, of the 

634
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Vipassana, but they're not like,
you know, the what's. 

635
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Oh my God, my brain is really 
losing words at the moment. 

636
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,680
No worries. 
I'll tell you what, I'll edit 

637
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,280
around this part. 
And I was just really curious 

638
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,480
about, you know, the, the nature
of how that suicide occurred. 

639
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,960
Yeah. 
So yeah, she couldn't handle it.

640
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,200
She's kind of lost touch with 
reality. 

641
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,560
And no one, she kept asking and 
wondered what happened, what 

642
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160
happened? 
Like, what did I do? 

643
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:27,040
And they ignored her and they 
they weren't there for her. 

644
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:33,680
And she just felt like she just,
she just couldn't handle it, 

645
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,960
whatever had happened. 
So yeah, that that's how how it 

646
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,760
ended up. 
Unfortunately, this is the large

647
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,800
untold story of the New Age 
community, which is that there 

648
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,240
are negative outcomes to just 
about every New Age practice 

649
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,800
that you can imagine, and 
they're often swept under the 

650
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,640
rug. 
I'll, I'll tell you this as we 

651
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,800
kind of transition away from 
this talk about, you know, 

652
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,480
suicides and, and the struggles 
of being someone who sees which 

653
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,200
are very real. 
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

654
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,400
Don't need to have you know that
even in there you don't want 

655
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:11,920
that. 
Yeah. 

656
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,920
No, I I think we're going to 
leave a healthy portion of that 

657
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,360
in there. 
We'll just fix up the last 

658
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,080
little part where you couldn't 
remember kundalini. 

659
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,040
That's all it'll sound like. 
Yeah. 

660
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,800
I just haven't said that word 
for a very long time, I think so

661
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,880
I just could not think of it. 
Yeah, it's. 

662
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,760
Kind of a tricky word. 
I'll tell you this though. 

663
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,680
While we were talking, while you
were talking specifically about 

664
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,800
your friend and the 4/4 and the 
like, the microphone did the 

665
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440
weirdest thing. 
My computer speaker started to 

666
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,320
make noise, the microphone cut 
in and out. 

667
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,440
This show is like poltergeisted 
like I do not understand how 

668
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,360
this technological glitch stuff 
is so persistent in the episode 

669
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,080
production process and I'm 
watching it happen often right 

670
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,720
in front of my. 
Eyes, I'm not touching the 

671
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,920
mouse, I'm not doing nothing, I 
just. 

672
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,880
So today, as we we've been 
talking, our conversation has 

673
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,720
been actually extremely 
interesting and charged. 

674
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,680
And I like the kind of 
meandering path we're taking as 

675
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,520
we get closer to talking about 
what you led with, which is that

676
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,720
you're currently seeing fairies.
Look, I really like talking with

677
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,880
you. 
I really appreciate the honesty.

678
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,520
I appreciate the depth of, you 
know, going in there and kind of

679
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,480
connecting the dots. 
It is all deeply related. 

680
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,840
And it is extremely stressful to
have revelatory experiences, to 

681
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,360
have vision of things that 
others do not see. 

682
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,760
It is not fun, actually, and 
myself included. 

683
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,880
I gotta tell you, OK, Brooke, 
I'm the host of this show. 

684
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,840
You said something really 
profound there a moment ago, 

685
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,400
which is that, you know, if this
awakening was happening 10 years

686
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,200
ago, you might not have been 
able to handle it. 

687
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,480
I still honestly cannot really 
handle it. 

688
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,400
And I get just as much comfort 
talking to people and publishing

689
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,280
these episodes as anybody 
listening, if not more. 

690
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,920
I'm deeply fucking committed to,
like, hearing what other people 

691
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,960
are doing to integrate these 
experiences into their lives. 

692
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,120
And I might be like a fucking 
party pooper. 

693
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,720
Oh well, I'm telling you the 
shit we talk about here on the 

694
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,960
show is the real fairy subject 
matter. 

695
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,560
It is not an excuse to go off 
and do a fucking 10 day drug 

696
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,920
retreat or silent retreat or get
interested in eastern philosophy

697
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,680
and start taking up yoga. 
If you want to expand your mind 

698
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,280
and better your soul, just sit 
quietly and think, Explore 

699
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,520
things that interest you. 
Just take it slow, take it easy.

700
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,520
You do not have to go to 
anybody. 

701
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,680
There is no magic answer. 
No magic pill, there's none of 

702
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,040
that is going to get you where 
you're trying to go, and all of 

703
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,600
it is probably gonna make it 
harder for you to get where 

704
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,880
you're trying to go. 
As unsatisfying of an answer as 

705
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,880
it is, the best advice I can 
give you as the host of this 

706
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,120
show, whatever that gives me, 
you know, value as a advice 

707
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,040
giver is just recognize the 
stuff is real. 

708
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,840
Just gets. 
Try to stay like curious about 

709
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,600
it and not get overwhelmed by 
it. 

710
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,720
Don't worry too much about those
that don't understand and see 

711
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:11,960
it. 
There are in fact a lot of 

712
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,160
people that do. 
And count yourself lucky 'cause 

713
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,440
you're part of a special club of
people that have awareness of 

714
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,640
something utterly magical, you 
know? 

715
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,440
Don't let it bum you out because
actually there's a way moving 

716
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,160
forward that you can connect 
with others. 

717
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,880
There's a good little community 
starting with the show. 

718
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,280
I can't offer any more than 
that, but somehow that has to do

719
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,640
that. 
Look at all these people coming 

720
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,880
forward. 
It's not just you. 

721
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,240
You're, you're cool, you know, 
and it probably you're one of 

722
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:45,040
these sensitive touched types 
that just not built for this 

723
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,720
world. 
Doesn't mean something's wrong 

724
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:49,160
with you at all. 
You know, depression and 

725
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,640
frustration and anger are 
natural byproducts of being 

726
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,600
under. 
Pressure as a sensitive person. 

727
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,040
So I deeply empathize with you. 
I hear and listen to you and 

728
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,120
actually you just fit the club 
here at fascinating Faye to AT 

729
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,280
So like I said before. 
You're you're well at home here.

730
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,040
Yeah. 
And, and yeah, here I am. 

731
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,280
I, I'm not, I'm definitely not 
an airy fairy person. 

732
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,320
I have fallen in and out of 
being kind of like connected to 

733
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,120
this, you know, spiritual stuff.
I've always had my Oracle cards,

734
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,880
but yeah, by all means, I'm not 
someone who's yeah like walking 

735
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:37,320
barefoot and eating just plants 
and and organic stuff. 

736
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:44,040
I've just like I I told you, I'm
I've only just quit alcohol mid 

737
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,560
January. 
I yeah, struggled with that. 

738
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,680
And at the moment I'm, I'm still
smoking cigarettes. 

739
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,800
So I'm literally sitting on the 
veranda at, you know, every day 

740
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,720
just kind of having a cigarette 
every now and then. 

741
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:06,360
And, and that's I'm, I'm 
literally looking at it fairies.

742
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,280
So you don't have to be a 
certain way to, to, you know, 

743
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,720
you don't need to do all those 
things like you said to, to be 

744
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,840
able to experience that. 
I haven't, I have not done any 

745
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,480
kind of like people ask how do 
you see them? 

746
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,520
What, what can I do for them? 
I, the only thing I can think of

747
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,320
that I, I did, and it wasn't 
even to the fairies. 

748
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,520
I was just looking up at the sky
because the sky. 

749
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,040
I love the, the aliens and, and,
and all that. 

750
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:45,000
And I was one night looking up 
at the sky recently before this 

751
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,800
awakening. 
And I was, I just said, Oh, I'm 

752
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,680
ready to see you. 
I wanted to see some aliens. 

753
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,160
I just wanted to see like a UFO 
or something like that. 

754
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,840
And I don't know if I said it 
out loud or just in my head, but

755
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,480
I was. 
So that's how we got to where we

756
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,320
are now actually, because I was 
taking photos of the stars just 

757
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,240
for fun, just taking videos of 
the sky. 

758
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,240
And, and this is during the time
of listening to the, the 

759
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:19,880
podcasts, listening to your 
podcast. 

760
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:29,800
And, and then I, my dad has 
these fairy lights set up in the

761
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:36,680
garden, beautiful garden. 
My, my parents, wherever they've

762
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,560
lived, they've always planted a 
beautiful garden and we've 

763
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,360
really grown it as this place 
was bare. 

764
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,680
I've got, I was looking actually
at a photo and it was completely

765
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:54,520
bare when when they moved here, 
or just a couple of bushes and 

766
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,920
they were approached by the 
person who owns the house to 

767
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,320
actually rent here because they,
you could see how well the other

768
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,480
place was looked after because 
they're always have a beautiful 

769
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,320
neat garden. 
Mum just plants, flowers, the 

770
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,080
hopes they grow and then she 
loves them and she looks after 

771
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,640
them and she's, you know, not 
someone who's like, oh, I know 

772
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,680
like this about this plant, this
about this plant. 

773
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,440
She just, she just does it and 
she's, you know, out first thing

774
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,200
in the morning. 
She'll be in a dressing gown out

775
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,840
in the garden. 
And my dad is also loves Sagani 

776
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:41,080
does setting up more of the the 
structural things as well and 

777
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,040
like, yeah, just putting putting
seats out there and you'll yeah 

778
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:55,640
press what are they trellises 
and my even hung up some hanging

779
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,600
baskets, which I thought was 
nice and creative of him. 

780
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:08,680
And so he got really into 
putting these solar lights out 

781
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,200
because where the house is, is 
we're just kind of in these 

782
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,320
paddocks and there's no 
neighbors. 

783
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,640
Like the neighbors are just kind
of quite like a few paddocks 

784
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:27,240
away like, and the driveway is 
fairly long. 

785
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:31,360
So you can see the road. 
You can, you can hear the road, 

786
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:37,280
but it's really not that loud. 
It's so peaceful here, almost 

787
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,200
too peaceful, especially after 
when I'm from moving. 

788
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,480
When I moved from Melbourne, it 
was a bit to get used to again. 

789
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:53,880
So during Christmas time my dad 
put even more fairy lights up. 

790
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,640
I think he he, that's when he 
put the fairy lights up all 

791
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,760
along the fence. 
And so he's got the solar 

792
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,320
lights, fairy lights. 
And I remember my mum making a 

793
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,280
joke once when he did put the 
solar lights up that she said 

794
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,520
your father set up a landing 
strip because of how many lights

795
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:26,960
there are for aeroplanes. 
And that is what I'm staring out

796
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,480
at every night, beautiful 
colourful fairy lights, solar 

797
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,960
lights. 
And so I started with photos of 

798
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,680
the sky because I'm a 
photographer. 

799
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:48,440
So I studied photography and I 
have always taken photos and I 

800
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,800
was taking photos of the stars 
and, and just with my, my phone 

801
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,640
because I haven't set other 
stuff up for a long time. 

802
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:03,240
And I was just like, wow, there 
are so many stars here and what 

803
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,000
have I been doing? 
I've been so far from the stars 

804
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,800
and every time I've been back at
my parents house, that's I fall 

805
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,600
back into sort of my teenage 
self and the things that that I 

806
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:20,600
really loved back then. 
And, and then with the fairy 

807
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,760
lights and the colorful lights, 
I-1 night started to move my 

808
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,320
phone and I was painting, 
painting the with the lights. 

809
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,000
And I took a lot of colorful 
like, you know, it's making lots

810
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,480
of different shapes and, and 
trying to make circles and love 

811
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:45,480
hearts with the lights. 
And, and then I think I did that

812
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,040
like once. 
And then I may have done it one 

813
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:56,840
more time and looking through 
the photos and I saw this face 

814
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:05,360
and it was like a gnome type 
face or an elf or something. 

815
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,920
And I showed my parents maybe 
the next day and I was like, can

816
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,840
you see this face? 
And yeah, they could see it. 

817
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:28,920
And from there I, I was taking 
photos each night, painting like

818
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,840
moving my phone. 
And actually was started off 

819
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,680
like, well, I do it still. 
I brighten the photo because, 

820
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,760
yeah, you've got the darkness 
and then you've got the light. 

821
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:48,760
So, so the way it works or how I
feel is starting to learn is the

822
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,400
fire. 
They're more visible in the 

823
00:59:52,400 --> 01:00:02,840
darker spaces, but they, so 
basically I, I, I brighten these

824
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,960
pictures and I kept seeing all 
these different figures showing 

825
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,320
up and I was like, Oh my God, 
like that. 

826
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:21,320
Is a face and I was like, that's
like a figure and each night I 

827
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:27,480
was looking at that, but I take 
the photos and sit in bed and 

828
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,040
and go through and look and 
brighten the photos and I zoom 

829
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,520
in and and I was like, Oh my 
God, like the, the one night it 

830
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,640
clicked that it was like Oh my 
God, they're everywhere these 

831
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,960
faces and shapes and and then 
from there they were getting 

832
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,280
stronger and I stopped taking 
the photos where I was moving 

833
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:56,360
the camera all the time and, and
just on that note, I'd I'd 

834
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,880
noticed with the movement like 
there were it would follow like 

835
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,880
something was flying up through 
the light. 

836
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,000
So, so that was really capturing
my attention. 

837
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,800
Like it was like a being with 
wings and, and, and I would see 

838
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,760
them and they're going with the 
light up. 

839
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:18,640
And then I, I, I stopped doing 
that and I, I realized that I 

840
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:24,000
was getting figures and beings 
showing up just by taking the 

841
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,760
photo and not moving the camera 
and then brightening it. 

842
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:36,520
And, and so the more I did that,
I, I got clearer and clearer 

843
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:46,040
images and I, I don't know if 
it's even like a week, like 

844
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,760
maybe it's probably would wait 
5-5 days or to a week. 

845
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:58,400
I just have literally had this 
something has like cracked open 

846
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:06,040
and I can see them in. 
So firstly I thought I could see

847
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,120
them like so easily like in the 
photos and I was like, Oh my 

848
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,000
God, like this is amazing. 
I can I can really see them in 

849
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,680
the photos. 
And then like just after that, 

850
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,880
this is this. 
I didn't feel anything crack 

851
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,920
open. 
I just know something that's 

852
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,320
just opened up and I can 
actually see these figures with 

853
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:32,280
my naked eye and they're much 
more visible when they're 

854
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,360
standing in a, in a kind of 
illuminated by the lights in the

855
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,840
garden. 
That's when I don't even have to

856
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,000
try and concentrate because I 
just instantly see them. 

857
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,840
The more I and I feel like 
they're looking at me like 

858
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,840
hello, like take, take my photo.
I, I, I've said to them, you 

859
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,880
know, if you, if you want to 
basically being a photo, well, 

860
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,760
you know what I'm doing here, 
guys like I, I, I'm taking 

861
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,160
photos. 
So, you know, if you want to be 

862
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:14,920
there, be there. 
And I have got, I just, my, I 

863
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,120
cannot even start explaining all
the different things I've seen. 

864
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:24,640
And the problem is that, that I 
have shared this, these photos 

865
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,400
with some people, they cannot 
see them. 

866
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,920
They cannot see what I'm seeing.
They're seeing leaves, they're 

867
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:42,640
seeing some, sometimes they can 
see some form of shape, but not 

868
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:50,120
in the detail that I can, after 
reaching out to you, I, I've, 

869
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,360
you know, you've connected me 
with Ruby. 

870
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:57,520
And that was something that I 
really needed because I showed 

871
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,640
her photos and a video I took 
and I was like, can you see 

872
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,440
them? 
And she said, I can see them And

873
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:11,520
I can she she said they these 
have to be the best photos of 

874
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,760
fairies ever in the world. 
If not, you know, right now, 

875
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,480
like ever. 
Like they they they are. 

876
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:26,240
Oh my God, have you shown Jim? 
Have you thank you share this 

877
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,520
with Jim his his mind's going to
be blown. 

878
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:35,640
And I said no like to be honest,
I'm really finding that I I I 

879
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:41,320
feel like you you. 
I think you won't have as much 

880
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,920
trouble as most people to see 
them because you, I mean, you, 

881
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:53,240
you've got this podcast, but I 
even noticed with Ruby that she,

882
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,640
so she's taken photos because I 
can see them during the day as 

883
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,240
well. 
I just need to like, I need to 

884
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,120
sort it, like get in the mind 
frame. 

885
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,280
So like over the last few days, 
that's why I told you I haven't 

886
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:16,800
really been, I've listened to 
Ruby's episodes now, but I, 

887
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,960
I've, I've not been listening to
too much of the podcast at the 

888
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,920
moment because it is 
overwhelming. 

889
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,120
It is in my life. 
It is right here and I'm just 

890
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,280
in, it's just something I'm just
still getting. 

891
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:38,080
I'm really trying to get used to
and, and, and, and I feel like 

892
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,920
when I'm going to listen to a 
podcast, I'm going to, they're 

893
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,720
going to be, you know, they're, 
they're there. 

894
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,800
So, and they're really 
distracting and they're like, 

895
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,440
totally, I love it. 
I love it and I love them and I 

896
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,720
tell them that I love them And 
and I, I don't feel any malice. 

897
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,880
I feel like they're just all 
just little beautiful, like 

898
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:02,960
spirits around me. 
And and they but yeah, they, 

899
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,880
they want me to do something. 
We you know, when I got the 

900
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:13,040
reading, I was told no rush, but
anyway, when I when I have 

901
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,920
sorry, going on a bit of a 
tangent here. 

902
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:22,800
I was going to say, when I 
showed Ruby these photos, she 

903
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,720
was she was, she could 
definitely see more, more than 

904
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,240
anyone else that I had shown. 
And and she was, she was just 

905
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,640
like what BA these are 
incredible. 

906
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,400
And so she decided to send me 
because I mentioned about the 

907
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,160
daylight as well, and she 
decided to send me some photos 

908
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:49,160
of a tree. 
And she said, Oh, I just today I

909
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,000
got this like feeling that I 
needed to take a photo of this 

910
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,320
big old tree. 
It's quite an ancient tree. 

911
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,880
And she sent those photos to me 
and she said, can you please 

912
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,960
tell me if you see any spirits? 
Oh, see, any fairies? 

913
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:11,840
And I was looking, I've only 
looked like I, I finally got 

914
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:17,800
back to about 1:00. 
But I mean, I, I looked at it 

915
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:23,400
and I put circles around the 
fairies that I could see. 

916
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:31,880
And as I was circling, I was 
like, oh God, this whole thing 

917
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,400
is going to be covered in 
circles because I can see they 

918
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:41,080
are everywhere. 
The more I see, the more become 

919
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,000
visible. 
And, and it's not like I'm. 

920
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,520
I've learned about. 
It's called Pardelia, where you 

921
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,680
see face. 
Yeah. 

922
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:57,040
Where you see faces in. 
You know, I feel like that may 

923
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,320
have been something that I, I 
thought that I was experiencing 

924
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:08,280
at first when I I started to see
them in the photos, like in 

925
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,840
before I had the whole, you 
know, where they, they've 

926
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,440
literally like unveiled 
themselves. 

927
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:21,399
But yeah, so I sent this picture
back to her with lots of circles

928
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:26,680
and she, she can't see them. 
She can't, she couldn't see them

929
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,600
myself. 
Just try and just try to focus 

930
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,640
on those spots because you know 
what they look like. 

931
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,880
So maybe they'll become more 
clear for you. 

932
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:44,200
And she said, I know you, I know
you're not lying because you, 

933
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,479
you see, I've seen your other 
photos and because I'm really 

934
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,880
trying to pick out ones that 
I'm, I've got to step back and 

935
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,760
be like, OK, like trying step 
back into kind of like our 

936
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,120
dimension and, and see it from a
perspective of someone who 

937
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,439
doesn't know what the hell 
they're going to actually be 

938
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:08,640
seen. 
But yeah, I think just with all 

939
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,520
of this, like I have a wild 
imagination anyway. 

940
01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:16,720
And I'm just such such an open 
person to just with things or 

941
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,600
different things happening that 
I, I feel like this is something

942
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:25,160
that has, yeah. 
I mean, I, I don't know, they've

943
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,960
just allowed me to, to, to 
really just step in and, or, or 

944
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,560
I've allowed them to step in. 
I'm not sure what's what. 

945
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:40,960
But yeah. 
Did you want me to talk a bit 

946
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,640
about what what I'm actually 
seeing? 

947
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,680
I was gonna ask you. 
Yeah, let me say a couple things

948
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,120
too. 
Ruby's one of my favorite 

949
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,279
guests. 
Yeah. 

950
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,720
Ruby's one of my favorite guests
and I definitely am glad that 

951
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,840
the two of you are forming a 
connection. 

952
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:03,440
I thought for sure she would be 
a helpful person for you to 

953
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,120
speak with based on some of the 
emails that I was receiving from

954
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,520
you. 
There's this guy Terry in season

955
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,440
2 from Celestial Terrestrial. 
His episode? 

956
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,240
He. 
He says something in there where

957
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,120
she says he has a couple of 
people that he works with who he

958
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:24,240
calls his Sears who are 
immediately able to see. 

959
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,640
And he kind of, you know, he'll 
do these little tests where 

960
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,120
he'll send things that he can 
see and he'll ask like, what do 

961
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:36,160
you see to sort of check and see
who else is able to, to see. 

962
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,480
And. 
It's, it's interesting to hear 

963
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:43,080
you talk about, you know, Ruby 
having that reaction. 

964
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,440
Ruby's got pretty profound 
second sight taking place. 

965
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:52,080
So do you, it sounds like, and I
know, I know that for a lot of 

966
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,160
people listening, they might 
just be rolling their eyes. 

967
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,080
But for example, like, tell me 
about the power outage 

968
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,680
coincidence when you were 
listening to the show, just for 

969
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,200
example, like, well, I have a 
couple of these questions, and 

970
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,680
then I want to ask what you're 
seeing. 

971
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,040
Absolutely, yeah. 
But what happened there with? 

972
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,040
The power outage Coincidence. 
That was the first time. 

973
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,160
You emailed me. 
Emailed you? 

974
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,960
Yeah. 
I I how? 

975
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,600
What, what had happened? 
I, I, oh, I listened to an 

976
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,320
episode where you and you really
talked about the power going out

977
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,520
and you were talking about how 
it it with the girl, I can't 

978
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:38,280
remember her name, how your 
power had gone out at the same 

979
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,840
time, I think. 
Yeah, Hannah. 

980
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,640
Well, she was listening. 
Yeah. 

981
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,640
And her power went out at that 
exact moment. 

982
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:50,560
Yes. 
So I and then you talked about 

983
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:58,000
how it's very connected that the
power goes out that you know 

984
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:04,920
that that that's happened a few 
times when you've kind of been 

985
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,640
talking about this kind of yeah 
thing. 

986
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:14,200
And I think, yeah, I just was 
like, oh, OK, just listen to 

987
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:22,880
that. 
The next day, I don't even know 

988
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,080
what I was doing, but the power 
went out. 

989
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,480
Just totally went out in the 
whole house. 

990
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:34,520
And I was like, Oh my God, Dad, 
I was listening to this podcast 

991
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,840
last night because I always tell
my parents this weird shit. 

992
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,960
There's always something that 
they're. 

993
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:43,920
And now they're like, Oh my God,
like now, yeah, it's just out of

994
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,400
crazy, crazy. 
But I've always got this weird, 

995
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,600
weird shit that I'm telling 
them. 

996
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,360
And that was the, the one thing 
that I, I had to tell because I 

997
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,880
was like, Oh my God. 
So I was listening to this 

998
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,800
podcast yesterday and I was 
talking about the power going 

999
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,640
out and how it's related to the 
fairies. 

1000
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,800
And, and then they were talking 
about owls as well. 

1001
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:07,160
And I said, what a coincidence. 
The power is out today. 

1002
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,000
I said, how often does the power
go out? 

1003
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,000
And they're like, maybe like 
twice a year, like something, 

1004
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:18,160
you know, not not often. 
And but dad was kind of rolling 

1005
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,480
his eyes at me. 
He's like, OK, like. 

1006
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:26,120
And I said, ah, I'm telling you 
this as you're as you're holding

1007
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:33,680
an owl shaped pot plant because 
the episode was owls and power 

1008
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,240
outages. 
And yeah. 

1009
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840
And, and, and as I was telling 
him that he was holding this, 

1010
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:47,760
this owl and I, I was like, Oh 
my God, you're holding that. 

1011
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:55,880
And he's like, Oh my God. 
So it's, yeah, it's really fun 

1012
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,800
when that stuff happens. 
And that's what I, I, I think I 

1013
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:05,440
decided to e-mail you and, and I
was just so stoked to get your 

1014
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:08,000
reply as well. 
And how, how quickly you replied

1015
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:15,480
and, and how kind of detailed 
you, you just kind of went into 

1016
01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:21,480
about it. 
And I feel like that that kind 

1017
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:24,600
of happened. 
So that whatever's happening 

1018
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:30,760
now, I, I felt like I had 
someone to reach out, which is 

1019
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:36,200
you out to. 
So which is, I think you, yeah. 

1020
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,080
Certainly an interesting 
coincidence with the power going

1021
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,680
out and your father holding that
owl shaped pot plant. 

1022
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,120
I often wonder if the messaging 
that we receive from reality 

1023
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,280
itself is orchestrated by the 
fae in a larger kind of, you 

1024
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,240
know, orchestral performance. 
I guess you could say what often

1025
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,200
seems like unrelated or 
seemingly random little 

1026
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,520
messaging can actually be very 
profound if you. 

1027
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:07,040
Look at it from the lens that 
reality itself is capable of and

1028
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,400
trying to communicate with you. 
And you know, over the time that

1029
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,720
we've been speaking via e-mail, 
a lot has progressed for you. 

1030
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,480
So let me ask you now, because 
this is, you know, the very, 

1031
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:21,160
very interesting as you're going
from seeing them in photos to 

1032
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,000
seeing them with your waking 
eyes, tell me what they look 

1033
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,760
like. 
As much as you want to get into 

1034
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,920
the different kinds you're 
seeing, how are they appearing 

1035
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,480
in your eyes would be my first 
question. 

1036
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:35,040
Like, how do you notice them? 
What stands out at first that 

1037
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:42,360
lets you know they're there? 
OK, so, so the ones that stand 

1038
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:48,440
out the easiest for me at first 
glance when I'm not even 

1039
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:59,480
searching are the ones that are 
in the garden and they are 

1040
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:05,200
overlaying and they're like a 
overlaying like layer over the 

1041
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,440
top of the flowers and the 
plants. 

1042
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:14,960
So firstly, the ones that stick 
out are the ones that may have 

1043
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:22,520
little hats on because it's 
almost like they they, it's 

1044
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:27,880
either they're wearing a hat or,
and that's the flower that they 

1045
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:33,160
are using the colour of to make 
that pop out. 

1046
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:41,800
And, and if it, if that's near 
like a sort of darker, like a 

1047
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,840
stone or something more 
contrasting with the colour, 

1048
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:54,280
those are standing up. 
And so they're like the 

1049
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,720
apparition kind of standing 
there. 

1050
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:07,040
Other ones that show up easier 
just also like long long plants 

1051
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:15,520
with the flower on top. 
They the first thing I see is 

1052
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:20,080
not the plant it is. 
It is the being that is the 

1053
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:28,400
fairy that is camouflaging it's 
self in to that. 

1054
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:38,920
They're basically just masters 
of camouflage and they use 

1055
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:46,800
whatever they can to, to kind 
of, you know, show themselves. 

1056
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:56,200
And so that's what I'm first 
seeing easier, yeah, with my my 

1057
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,480
waking eye. 
But as it's been getting 

1058
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:09,400
stronger and stronger, oh man, 
they're just like, they're just,

1059
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,240
they're even just popping up 
like not even needing to use 

1060
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,560
like a flower or anything to, 
to, for me to see them. 

1061
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,160
They're just like they're on the
grass. 

1062
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:26,080
And if it is dark in that space,
I see, I see the body and it's 

1063
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,080
like a 3D body. 
And but then you shine the light

1064
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,040
on there and, and it's it 
disappears. 

1065
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:41,600
And if I take a photo of that 
space and I take it either with 

1066
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:49,240
like a night vision or a, or 
like I brighten it afterwards, 

1067
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,400
that being is there. 
But yeah, it, it, it's 

1068
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,440
different. 
It's, it's just different every 

1069
01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:58,880
time. 
There's they, they're in like 

1070
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,800
the I, I hadn't explored the 
backyard yet or the, the back of

1071
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,840
the house, but there's a tree 
line and I was like, it was 

1072
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,600
around. 
It's kind of, you know, like 

1073
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:15,680
dusk, dawn, night time with the 
fairy light shining. 

1074
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:21,360
Those are the ones that are 
showing up like more like, yeah,

1075
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:24,760
like I said, like quicker. 
And I don't have to think like 

1076
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,080
they're just there during the 
daytime. 

1077
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,760
I'm finding that actually I'm 
staring, staring, staring at it 

1078
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,200
and and they become clear. 
And once they're kind of like, 

1079
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:45,440
it's like AII don't know if you 
know those magic book magic 

1080
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:48,560
pictures where there's a hidden 
image. 

1081
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:56,240
And if you look at the picture 
for long enough, the hidden 

1082
01:19:56,240 --> 01:20:00,320
image actually pops out and 
gives you perspective. 

1083
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,560
For whatever reason, your brains
done a shift and that can 

1084
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,840
actually see the hidden image. 
Do you know about those those 

1085
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,080
kind of books? 
I do. 

1086
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,800
It's like I remember them 
distinctly in every single mall 

1087
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,120
when I was like in my teenage 
years, so the 90s and early 

1088
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,880
2000s. 
And yeah, you look at it with a 

1089
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,240
defocused vision close and then 
you slowly pull away from it and

1090
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,560
then a three-dimensional hidden 
image will appear which is quite

1091
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,960
real. 
And you you can then focus on it

1092
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,280
in the non focusing focused way.
I understand exactly what you're

1093
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,440
referring to. 
Yeah. 

1094
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,840
So, so that's, that's sort of 
like, yeah, how, how it's 

1095
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,440
progressing. 
I, you know, sometimes I'm just 

1096
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:47,520
like, right. 
I just, I just want to have a 

1097
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,600
cigarette and I don't even want 
to like, I just, I don't even 

1098
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,160
want to see because I'm like, I 
love you, but like you kind of 

1099
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,400
you. 
If I see you, then I'm going to 

1100
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,600
take photos because I, I just am
like that. 

1101
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,800
Like I have cats. 
Like I'm just that kind of 

1102
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:05,760
person that, yeah, you see 
something cool or you just take 

1103
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,600
photos and I take a lot. 
So if your cat looks cute, then 

1104
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,680
you take a lot of photos. 
So I, yeah, if, if you've got 

1105
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,760
your fairies looking up at you 
and they're like, basically 

1106
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,760
they're staring at me. 
I'm like, I have to cave in and,

1107
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,600
and take photos. 
And yeah, totally chews up my my

1108
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,640
time, which I already am 
terrible at managing. 

1109
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:35,320
But yeah, I mean, it's just 
amazing. 

1110
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,880
And there's just so much about 
this. 

1111
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:45,320
So what? 
So what I see the first thing 

1112
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,640
I've I've really like, I'm like,
Oh my God. 

1113
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:55,600
Like Brian Froud. 
He that that is what they look 

1114
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,040
like. 
They look like Brian Froud, like

1115
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:05,760
the way he has then layered as 
well like that in his some of 

1116
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,400
the the drawings and that he's 
done. 

1117
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,600
They're layering on top of each 
other. 

1118
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,760
That is exactly what they look 
like as well. 

1119
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:22,160
And when I've taken photos, 
there are that that's when I can

1120
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,560
really kind of go back in and be
like, oh, OK, so there's this 

1121
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,760
being and there's this being. 
And what shows up a lot is like 

1122
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,040
little men with long legs and 
little green men. 

1123
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:37,240
And they fly around. 
And they don't seem to have any 

1124
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,880
wings as well. 
So they're either standing there

1125
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:44,040
or they're flying around. 
There are little, you know, 

1126
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,840
typical looking, you know, like 
fairy tale fairies. 

1127
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,160
If they've got little naked 
bodies, they've got the 

1128
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:54,560
beautiful wings. 
There are brownies type. 

1129
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,680
I think I haven't even learned 
all the names. 

1130
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,040
I really need to get like a 
little in start my own little 

1131
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:13,800
index thing there, but there 
it's not even I I see pigs, I 

1132
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:23,080
see cats, I see etherical like 
mystical shapes. 

1133
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:35,640
I see cartoons. 
I I see babies, I see frogs, I 

1134
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:42,960
see mice, but they're not the, 
you know, they're not like the 

1135
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,760
type of mice or cats that we 
have in our, you know, like, 

1136
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,320
well, it's not just like a cat, 
like it's like a, it's like a 

1137
01:23:52,320 --> 01:24:01,760
really catty looking face or 
like a mythical kind of pig 

1138
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:12,360
face, or it's it the, I just 
feel like the, it's just 

1139
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:17,560
endless. 
I also see really small, really 

1140
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,720
small little green men. 
They're more round. 

1141
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:29,800
I, I see, and I know that Ruby 
has said this a lot in her 

1142
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,200
things that they're with the 
Asiany eyes. 

1143
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:38,280
I, I don't know if Asian is the 
word that I use, but like, 

1144
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,480
because I've never actually said
that word before, but she's 

1145
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:45,160
right. 
They've got, you know, they've 

1146
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:50,920
got the, the cheeky little like 
they've got the slanted eye and 

1147
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,840
I've seen owls I've seen, but 
I've seen some scary looking 

1148
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,280
ones too. 
But I'm not scared of them 

1149
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:06,080
because I don't feel scared. 
I, I just, I just feel like 

1150
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,600
they, I'm like, wow, you you're 
an interesting looking one. 

1151
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:17,640
I also feel like they they, 
they, they clump together. 

1152
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,640
The, the smaller beans, they 
clump together to make a another

1153
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:28,440
picture like another shape. 
I've seen them riding on the 

1154
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:32,840
back of something if I could 
don't know, like if it's like a 

1155
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:42,600
little other animal or being 
they are doing, just just just 

1156
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,080
just enjoying what they're doing
and they're, you know, flying. 

1157
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,760
They are sitting on the bird 
bath. 

1158
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,680
What else they pick, They're 
peeking through the leaves. 

1159
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,320
These are all in the photos. 
And the problem is that when I'm

1160
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,400
sharing these photos, no one can
not no one. 

1161
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,920
But most people don't just 
cannot see what I'm saying. 

1162
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:16,400
And there's that. 
And then I'll be, I'll be 

1163
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:22,000
sitting on the the veranda and 
I'll be there with my dad and, 

1164
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,760
and I'm like, can you see that? 
And he's like, I can't see it. 

1165
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,720
I know that you can see 
something, but I can't. 

1166
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,840
I'm like, it's right there. 
And he said, oh, I know it's, 

1167
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,720
you're looking at the light. 
I'll go cover it up like just to

1168
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,080
see. 
We were testing it. 

1169
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:44,160
And I was like, yeah, it's like 
the light, but it's not the 

1170
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,760
light that I'm seeing. 
It's something that's using that

1171
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:51,160
light to take form. 
And it wasn't like the 

1172
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,720
brightness of the the bright 
part of the light, but like more

1173
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,920
of like a off kind of light from
there. 

1174
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:05,560
But if I stare into say a more 
of a darker like spot in my 

1175
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:10,240
house, if I, if I really, if I, 
I haven't really done this. 

1176
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,680
If I look, look, look and I'm 
like, you know, letting it 

1177
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,920
happen, There's gonna be 
something that forms there. 

1178
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,640
There's just gonna be something 
there. 

1179
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:24,840
But for me, I see them in 
everything. 

1180
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,480
I've seen them pop up on my hand
like in my skin. 

1181
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,320
That sounds crazy. 
Sorry, that really sounds crazy.

1182
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:45,640
I mean, all of it does, but the,
the one that ones that show up 

1183
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:53,320
in kind of everyday sort of 
objects, they're more, they're 

1184
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,720
the ones with the, with the 
slanty eyes and like they're 

1185
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,280
just little beans. 
But yeah, when I've seen the 

1186
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:06,440
ones with the wings and, and 
like the, the gnome type, you 

1187
01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:12,800
know, elves, things like that, 
They, they, they've got all 

1188
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,360
different types. 
There's no, there's just so many

1189
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:23,280
different ones that I, I don't 
even know what they are called. 

1190
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,040
I just, I, I haven't, I haven't 
caught up on that. 

1191
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:30,600
I'm, I'm just so overwhelmed by 
what, that, what they are. 

1192
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,320
And, but I, what, I, it was a 
really cloudy day the other day 

1193
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,400
and I was like, I looking up at 
the clouds and they took form in

1194
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,600
the clouds. 
And I spent about half an hour, 

1195
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:51,640
40 minutes photographing these 
clouds and they were moving as I

1196
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,360
was looking up and they took, 
they took form in these clouds. 

1197
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:05,120
I, I, it's so frustrating 
because I, I am so getting more 

1198
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:09,240
and more afraid to kind of, I 
know that my parents can see 

1199
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:13,440
them. 
I, they can't see what I see, 

1200
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:18,240
but they have been on this 
journey with me each day. 

1201
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,680
I've been like, oh, I can see 
this, can you see? 

1202
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,160
And they'll be like, yeah, I can
see that shape like, but once 

1203
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:33,240
that the, the, the crack, the 
veil went like, I kind of have 

1204
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:38,040
trouble distinguishing what 
they're going to be able to see.

1205
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,880
But like, you know, 
distinguishing between what, 

1206
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,920
what what will they see and what
will they not see? 

1207
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,800
Do you know what I mean? 
Like so before I, before I 

1208
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,800
started seeing like what I can 
with, you know, like, like all 

1209
01:29:55,400 --> 01:30:00,200
so many of them now it was much 
easier to, for me to be like, 

1210
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,680
oh, do you see this in the 
picture? 

1211
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,280
And they're like, yeah, yeah, I 
can see that. 

1212
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:11,080
But now, like things that are so
obvious to me, the pictures, I, 

1213
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,640
I, I mean, I sent them one 
yesterday and I, I actually a 

1214
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:21,720
few of them and, and they're, 
they're little fairies in the 

1215
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:28,000
fish tank and lots of different 
little ones all floating around 

1216
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,240
in there. 
And I, I was like, well, these 

1217
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,360
are blatantly obvious. 
I was like, OK, they can't see 

1218
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,360
these. 
I'm going to give up because my 

1219
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:41,000
sister's completely skeptical. 
Like she's she, she, I've 

1220
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,680
actually shown her something 
that she can't ignore because I 

1221
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,160
took a photo of, of sorry. 
So back with the fish tank thing

1222
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:50,840
I sent them. 
I was like, I, I would just want

1223
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,960
my sister to see something and 
understand, like I would just 

1224
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,520
want her to, to believe me. 
And I just have to accept that 

1225
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:02,320
she's not going to at least not 
now, not at the moment. 

1226
01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:07,880
But I, I was like, OK, because 
I, it's pretty exhausting. 

1227
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,200
So I'm like last ditch if it, if
you can't see these beans, which

1228
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,920
are really obvious to me in the 
fish tank, I'm I'm just going to

1229
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,440
give up in trying to get you 
guys to see stuff. 

1230
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,880
And yeah, my parents were like, 
yeah, I can kind of see 

1231
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,400
something, but not really. 
And my sister was like, I can't 

1232
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,200
see anything at all. 
And I was like, oh, OK, I give 

1233
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:37,280
up because I think it's so yeah,
you really have to believe in it

1234
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,680
to see it. 
You have to, you have to be open

1235
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:46,240
to it existing because they, I 
believe are US. 

1236
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:55,800
They need us to to be here. 
And we are. 

1237
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,120
I don't know. 
I don't know how how else I I 

1238
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,160
can explain that. 
But one other thing I was gonna 

1239
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:11,040
say what something that can 
really convince my mom was the 

1240
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,480
fact that I've got the brine 
fraud. 

1241
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,720
What is it? 
Oracle Fairy Oracle deck. 

1242
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:24,800
And it has a picture of a girl 
fairy on the side and a few 

1243
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,760
other fairies. 
Sorry. 

1244
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,720
I hope you can hear me. 
Absolutely. 

1245
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:37,200
Yeah, sorry, I was changing my 
head to look at it and I took 

1246
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:45,240
AI, took a succession of photos.
I, I think that's how you might 

1247
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:52,640
say it of these sitting on my 
shelf of the, the side of the 

1248
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,800
cards and 'cause this is when I 
started to be like, are they in 

1249
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,800
my room? 
This is when I, I took some 

1250
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,480
photos in my room. 
I was like, they're fucking in 

1251
01:33:05,480 --> 01:33:08,280
my room. 
They're not just in the garden 

1252
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,400
like they're, they're, Oh my 
God, there's like 1 peeking out 

1253
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,680
from behind my, you know, 
container on the shelf. 

1254
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:27,960
And anyway, so I, I, it was low 
lighting in my room and I took 

1255
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:35,720
these a handful of photos of 
this card Dick and there's like,

1256
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,600
ah, well, fair, you know, fairy.
That's interesting. 

1257
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:46,240
I'll just see what happens. 
And each if you look at the 

1258
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:51,160
fairy's face in each photo, you 
focus on that spot. 

1259
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:56,040
It changes. 
Every photo is different and it 

1260
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,640
changes. 
And I showed my mom that I 

1261
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:04,000
showed my dad that I've shown 
few other people. 

1262
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:06,880
Some haven't really reacted to 
it. 

1263
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:13,160
And some, I mean, instantly my 
mom was like that, that that's 

1264
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,200
when I really saw it in her that
she'd heard a lot of stuff about

1265
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,320
them and what I was saying. 
And, and you know, I guess 

1266
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,840
taking it with a grain of salt, 
but when she looked at these 

1267
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,960
photos of the cards and the face
changing, she that's when she, 

1268
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,400
she really sat up straight and 
she was like, what the she's 

1269
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:35,040
like, that's changing. 
That's, that's different in 

1270
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:39,440
every photo. 
And she's like, what the fuck? 

1271
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:44,240
And I was like, yeah, I'm 
telling you like I'm they're 

1272
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:45,960
real. 
Like, did you not believe me 

1273
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,560
before? 
And she's like, well, and I was 

1274
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:53,960
like, and she's like, oh, well, 
that's just, I can't explain 

1275
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,160
that. 
Like, and she's, she's had to 

1276
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:01,480
pick it up and look at it and, 
and she's, it's not like a 

1277
01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:04,240
holographic, you know, like 
moving picture or anything when 

1278
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:08,600
you look at it from a different 
angle, because that is what my 

1279
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,080
sister asked me. 
I, I, I sent it to her because 

1280
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,520
mom was like, send it to your 
sister because she, she can't 

1281
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,080
deny that. 
She can't deny that she has to 

1282
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:23,000
be able to see that. 
And I sent it to her and, and 

1283
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,280
she's like, oh, is that like one
of those holographic pictures 

1284
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,920
when you move and look at it 
from a different angle? 

1285
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,840
And I was like, no, I'm like, 
no, I didn't move. 

1286
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,200
It's the same angle. 
Like you can clearly see it's 

1287
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,240
the same straight on angle every
photo. 

1288
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,480
Her face is different and it's 
moving and it's looking 

1289
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:49,040
different. 
And my mum was like, but how's 

1290
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,200
it moving? 
How's the actual picture moving?

1291
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:55,320
And I was like, well, it's not 
the picture, It's the fairy over

1292
01:35:55,320 --> 01:36:02,040
the top of the picture is taking
form in this card deck. 

1293
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:07,400
So I've come to understand. 
And that's like, I don't, I 

1294
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,640
don't see them. 
And like, you know, like every 

1295
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:18,320
single kind of like spot where I
look or anything, but I know 

1296
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:25,360
that they could be there because
they can literally fit and 

1297
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:30,240
camouflage into anything. 
And so if I kind of, I feel 

1298
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,360
like, if I'm thinking like, OK, 
are you there? 

1299
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,840
And they, they will take that 
form. 

1300
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:40,240
So to let me know, I guess that 
they're there. 

1301
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:45,280
I, I really don't, I really 
don't know how to explain it. 

1302
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,400
But yeah, another thing that's 
happened is that my cats keep 

1303
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:57,120
tweaking out. 
So they I, I, I actually see now

1304
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,680
my, my eyes, the way I'm seeing 
is seeing little flickers, 

1305
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:07,640
flickers of light all the time. 
And at the corner of my eye, 

1306
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:17,640
it's like, yeah, I, I, I it's 
just there's more, I guess. 

1307
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:22,280
What is it like particles that I
can see? 

1308
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:28,480
And now I feel like my cats 
have, for whatever reason, 

1309
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:35,160
either they've awoken with me 
or, or the fairies are more 

1310
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,960
around me because of what's 
happened. 

1311
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:46,600
But they keep my cats keep 
looking up past me and over in 

1312
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,000
the corner. 
And they, they never used to do 

1313
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,400
that. 
And they, they look really 

1314
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,800
creeped out at times. 
And I, it's like I have to 

1315
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,480
reassure them in the past, if a 
cat did that, which I have 

1316
01:37:57,480 --> 01:38:02,160
experienced a cat staring at 
something and I was scared 

1317
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:03,600
because I was like, what are you
looking at? 

1318
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,320
And then I saw a ghost, like it 
wasn't, it was just like, like a

1319
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,640
big flicker of black. 
But yeah, so. 

1320
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,760
So now I have to tell my cats 
like, it's OK because I've got a

1321
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,400
really vocal cat and she'll be 
like, she sounds like a really 

1322
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:22,880
like a little girl, like, like, 
yeah, mom. 

1323
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:31,120
So yeah, I have to reassure her.
So then I feel good too. 

1324
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,960
And I don't want to like, you 
know, I'm, I'm protecting my 

1325
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,120
energy And, and you know, I 
just, I actually talked to the 

1326
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,920
fairies too, and be like, OK, 
well, we just, you know, can 

1327
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,600
everyone just kind of not freak 
my cats out a little bit, like 

1328
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,560
just, you know, try and just 
give us a little bit of space, 

1329
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:51,560
please. 
And, and I'm always like, yeah, 

1330
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:56,400
and, and I absolutely do not 
allow anything malevolent to 

1331
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,440
come here, only benevolent good 
energy. 

1332
01:39:00,440 --> 01:39:04,320
This is a good energy space. 
And, and, and I mean, I'm the, 

1333
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,560
I'm a massive kid as well. 
Like, I, I mean, there's so much

1334
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,320
to talk about it. 
I just, I don't, I don't even 

1335
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:17,320
know I'll. 
Tell you what, Brooke, if I 

1336
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,920
could, I'll jump in and say a 
few things if that's. 

1337
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,840
Cool with you. 
Yes, please. 

1338
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,240
I guess it's interesting, like 
you haven't listened to enough 

1339
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:31,480
of the show to maybe realize, 
but a lot of what you're saying 

1340
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:36,880
I've heard before and the first 
rule of the show about not 

1341
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,600
trying to convince somebody of 
anything is an important one. 

1342
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:46,120
As I listen to you, I sometimes,
like, you know, I'm being as 

1343
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,480
analytical and critical and 
skeptical as anybody, if not 

1344
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:51,640
doubly so as the host of this 
show. 

1345
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,520
So I just listen to people 
sometimes. 

1346
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,960
And like I said earlier, a lot 
of a lot of episodes don't make 

1347
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,560
it to air. 
But as I listen to you, what I 

1348
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,680
hear is I, I hear like, first of
all, I don't think I would do 

1349
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:07,000
any better of a job of 
describing what's going on than 

1350
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,760
you're doing. 
I think you're doing a really 

1351
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,840
good job of describing what's 
going on with you. 

1352
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,560
Can you really? 
I thought you were going to give

1353
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,480
me bad feedback. 
No, quite the contrary. 

1354
01:40:17,480 --> 01:40:20,080
I think it's impossible to 
describe this stuff. 

1355
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,160
It's impossible for me to 
adequately describe the one 

1356
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,520
thing I saw, the little stuff 
that's happened since like the 

1357
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,640
coffee cup moving and other 
events, it's hard to talk about 

1358
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:34,040
and you know, like there's, I 
don't know. 

1359
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,080
Again, like I like I said a 
second ago, I'm listening 

1360
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:42,280
analytically. 
Ron, the 1st guest, the very 

1361
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:47,360
first guest on the show, 1 of 
the things he says he says don't

1362
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,920
step on that cockroach. 
They can show up as anything. 

1363
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:54,920
You imagine that that was that 
was 100 episodes in my, you know

1364
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:59,800
production process ago. 
That guy, the shit he said still

1365
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,880
is ringing true half continent 
around the world, you know, in a

1366
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:09,160
in a different person who's seen
and experiencing the exact same 

1367
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,360
thing. 
Furthermore, he thought he was 

1368
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,800
losing his mind when he started 
to see them because he started 

1369
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,600
to see them everywhere with his 
waking eyes and he couldn't talk

1370
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,040
to them. 
He couldn't talk to them at 

1371
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,640
first. 
They would nod or like bounce up

1372
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:27,440
on his head for yes and no. 
And gradually he made verbal 

1373
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:29,320
contact. 
He learned their name and now 

1374
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,440
he's got a full blown 
relationship. 

1375
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,720
He describes it like a fairy 
nursery. 

1376
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,920
He said there's just hundreds of
them coming out of the walls. 

1377
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:41,000
They love it here because I can 
see them, so they come to me. 

1378
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,400
Also, how many times on this 
show have I said they're us? 

1379
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,840
Something about us powers them. 
They need us. 

1380
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:54,400
You, you know you, you could 
initially appear like you're 

1381
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,480
confused and you're disjointed. 
But when I sit back and I just 

1382
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:01,480
listen to you, what I hear is a 
person who's really experiencing

1383
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:04,480
the phenomenon, struggling to 
make sense of it. 

1384
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,960
The exact thing I'm talking 
about continuously on this show.

1385
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,600
You strike me as extremely 
authentic, in fact, And I 

1386
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,600
totally hear the authenticity of
your struggle and your 

1387
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,360
confusion. 
I don't know why certain people 

1388
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,640
can see them in photography and 
others can't. 

1389
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,680
I also like sometimes wonder, 
like with Liz Webb from 

1390
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:29,040
Australia, like how that's 
working is, is an agreement 

1391
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:34,440
being struck where she's like 
basically saying to the Fey show

1392
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:37,320
up in a picture that everyone 
can see and then they they 

1393
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,560
perform for the request. 
Is it like she's doing something

1394
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,280
special or different? 
I don't know. 

1395
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,840
I would be fascinated to look at
some of the photos you're 

1396
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,600
referencing. 
I no guarantees I'll see or not 

1397
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,880
see because even myself, like I 
don't know truly where my skill 

1398
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,360
set in this all lies. 
I'm really just a dude. 

1399
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,120
You saw a fairy one time and is 
now fascinated by it. 

1400
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:04,480
However, every single thing 
you've said follows a very, very

1401
01:43:04,480 --> 01:43:09,840
interesting type of consistency.
And if you're making it all up, 

1402
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,240
which you're not, you know, I 
would. 

1403
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:18,280
I would hear. 
I would hear the lack of weird, 

1404
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:23,440
subtle connecting details that I
hear so many of as I listen to 

1405
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:26,040
you talk. 
It's really, really hard to come

1406
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,320
on a podcast and talk visual 
things with words. 

1407
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,280
I mean, good luck trying to 
describe the color blue with 

1408
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,560
just words, especially if you're
trying to describe the color 

1409
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,760
blue to a blind person since 
birth. 

1410
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:42,280
Trying to describe fairies or 
how you see them is extremely 

1411
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:47,040
difficult and you don't sound 
like erratic, you don't sound, 

1412
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:51,200
you just sound like a normal 
person who is genuinely confused

1413
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:56,160
about what is taking place. 
And I really see that as well in

1414
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,720
the fact that you're like trying
to look for that validation with

1415
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,240
your family. 
That's where that double edged 

1416
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,480
sword of trying to convince 
comes in, is there's a real need

1417
01:44:05,480 --> 01:44:08,600
for validation. 
Yeah, I've just got to step back

1418
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:12,800
in and I think that's why I've 
reached out because, you know, I

1419
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:17,480
just got to remember that there 
are people that are, you know, 

1420
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,800
on that kind of wavelength and, 
and there's just some people 

1421
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:27,320
that aren't and it's maybe it's 
just not their time like as 

1422
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,600
well. 
I only, you know, only so much 

1423
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,200
can be handled. 
If you, you literally brought 

1424
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,240
up, I was talking to my dad 
about it last night. 

1425
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:39,880
You we are literally born. 
We've we've we've born with the 

1426
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:45,440
ability most likely to have that
connection and then we are 

1427
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:54,840
raised to be disconnected and 
and that's why it can be just, 

1428
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:59,680
you know, impossible to 
comprehend for literally most 

1429
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:09,240
people, I think. 
And if you know, if we, if for 

1430
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,880
me, I think I, I, I, there's no 
doubt in my mind that that I 

1431
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:19,000
believe that some sort of like 
CIA government know that this is

1432
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:28,200
a real thing. 
Like, and I just, I can't, I 

1433
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:33,200
can't imagine them not at least 
knowing something or or at least

1434
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:38,320
be looking into it. 
It's it's too real. 

1435
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,880
It's just I, I don't even, I, I,
I mean, yeah, I, it's I was 

1436
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:49,800
gonna say as well as that. 
Like when when this has come 

1437
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:57,520
about, yes, I am very confused 
and overwhelmed. 

1438
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,920
But at the same time, it's 
almost like I feel like duh, 

1439
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:06,960
yeah, like of course it's here. 
It's kind of like this inner 

1440
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,480
like knowing or something. 
It's just kind of coming back 

1441
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:15,760
and and clicking back into place
that you know, yeah, this is 

1442
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,280
this is theirs is actually a 
thing. 

1443
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:24,680
Like this is just like this 
explains a lot. 

1444
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,640
That's that is well said. 
There's I just want to echo that

1445
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:35,640
for a second. 
There is a weird calming to the 

1446
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,640
truth as you come to accept it 
because I think it's a deep 

1447
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,040
inner knowing like you're 
saying. 

1448
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:46,600
I'll tell you what, out of 
respect for your time, I've just

1449
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,840
noticed we've been talking a 
little over 2 hours here. 

1450
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,960
So I try to keep the episodes, 
you know, around that mark. 

1451
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,400
I only mentioned that just, you 
know, out of respect for your 

1452
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,480
time and the audience's time. 
No other reason. 

1453
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:03,160
Something I do often on the show
is around the two hour mark, 

1454
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,080
I'll kind of bring that up. 
Plus I'm really busting to go to

1455
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,080
the toilet now. 
Well. 

1456
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,680
I'll tell you what, I'll get us 
out of here in, in under 510 

1457
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,480
minutes and we can both go pee 
cause I've got to go as well. 

1458
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,320
But not for, you know, lack of 
wanting to talk to you. 

1459
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:21,960
I could talk to you much, much 
longer. 

1460
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,240
I'm actually deeply fascinated 
to see some of these photos and 

1461
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,480
the way you've presented them is
extremely compelling to me. 

1462
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,720
Just hope you know that I 
believe you. 

1463
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:35,120
I am hearing that genuine 
confusion that anyone would 

1464
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,480
experience. 
To me, that's the hallmark of 

1465
01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:39,640
somebody really having this 
experience. 

1466
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:44,320
And enough people have had 
conversations with me about 

1467
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:49,000
their photos evolving into real 
sightings. 

1468
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:53,320
And then, you know, for you 
perhaps forthcoming, but you 

1469
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:58,000
take a look at examples like 
Ruby, like Jim and others, for 

1470
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,200
whom the things that they are 
first, quote UN quote, kind of 

1471
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,280
seen in their mind's eye are 
then progressing into real world

1472
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:09,520
tangible object communication, 
which is further confirmation 

1473
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,560
that what they are seeing is in 
fact there. 

1474
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,680
I wouldn't be surprised to hear 
back from you, you know, 

1475
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:19,240
sometime soon about a type of 
object communication, you know, 

1476
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:24,040
taking place in your home. 
And the idea of being brave to 

1477
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:28,080
come on the show is also the 
bravery it takes to to wrestle 

1478
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,560
with this stuff. 
I do think you've done a really 

1479
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,120
good job. 
I really mean it. 

1480
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,920
I think you've been extremely 
genuine with me and I want to 

1481
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,360
see some of your photos. 
Even if I don't see something in

1482
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,920
there, it does not invalidate 
what is going on with you. 

1483
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:49,240
I do think that the layering is 
a real thing and I don't know if

1484
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,760
it's a protein in the eye. 
Like I'll just leave you with 

1485
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,080
this final thought on the vision
which which comes to mind. 

1486
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,960
There's this scientific 
experiment that it was conducted

1487
01:48:59,960 --> 01:49:03,120
and is replicable. 
So it's a, you know, not just a 

1488
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:04,680
conceptual thing I'm talking 
about here. 

1489
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:08,760
They they would put like a type 
of swim swimmers goggles on 

1490
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:13,280
people and they had a lens in it
that inverted the visual field. 

1491
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:17,160
So whatever was up looked like 
it was down and whatever was 

1492
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,840
down looked like it was up. 
So if you put these goggles on 

1493
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,760
and you stood in your house, it 
would appear to your eye like 

1494
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:28,960
the furniture was on the ceiling
and the ceiling was the floor. 

1495
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:32,160
This is, you know, you could not
see any other way 'cause these 

1496
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,520
goggles had a lens in it that 
was doing that. 

1497
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:40,440
After about anywhere between 12 
to 24 hours, but 24 hours 

1498
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:45,760
maximum of wearing these goggles
full time, the participants were

1499
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,760
astonished to find that even 
with the goggles on, when they 

1500
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:53,560
open their eyes, the visual 
field had reverted back to what 

1501
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:57,080
it normally should be. 
So even though these goggles are

1502
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,920
on and these goggles are bending
the image and turning it upside 

1503
01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:05,160
down with them on, the brain 
knew this and this isn't right. 

1504
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:10,080
And so the brain corrected the 
visual input it was receiving 

1505
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:14,400
and essentially re rendered the 
entire visual field to now be 

1506
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:16,560
correct. 
And guess what happened when 

1507
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:21,200
people took off the glasses? 
The eyes were without aid 

1508
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:26,760
showing the flipped image and it
took another 12 to 24 hours for 

1509
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,320
the brain to correct the visual 
field. 

1510
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:35,120
So there's a, there's a, there's
a space between what is coming 

1511
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:39,400
into the eye and what the brain 
is seeing. 

1512
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,120
And it's a. 
It's a valid, replicable thing 

1513
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:43,520
that you can. 
Flip your own visual. 

1514
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,320
Field with lenses, take them off
and then. 

1515
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,920
Even with your. 
Adulterated eyes still have a 

1516
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,120
flipped visual field and both 
times your brain will correct 

1517
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,680
for error basically because your
brain is is a processing unit. 

1518
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,480
So within that is sort of 
something interesting as you 

1519
01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:04,280
related to like how you see it. 
I think that. 

1520
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:07,760
It's. 
Hard to describe because is it a

1521
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:12,200
brain capability? 
Is it a eye level capability? 

1522
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,280
Is it they're choosing to let 
themselves be seen? 

1523
01:51:15,480 --> 01:51:19,080
The mind boggles to know, but 
there's something going on there

1524
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:20,600
with a vision that we don't 
quite. 

1525
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,680
Get. 
I, I actually have something to 

1526
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:33,080
say in regards to the actual eye
as well, which I sorry, sorry to

1527
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:37,440
jump in, but yeah, that, that's 
really interesting that you're 

1528
01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:40,760
talking about it in a scientific
way, because. 

1529
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,840
OK, so since this has been 
happening, I've actually been 

1530
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:55,280
staring at my pupils or my eyes.
And there are two sections on 

1531
01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:01,240
the side of my pupils that have,
I swear they have darkened like 

1532
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:06,840
I am looking at my eye and I'm 
like, they, I, my eye looks 

1533
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:10,280
different, like it looks like 
it's changed. 

1534
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:17,720
And this is ever since the 
sightings have become stronger, 

1535
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:26,200
the actual iris on this on my 
eye on this both sides of my 

1536
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:31,560
pupil is like this darkened 
space. 

1537
01:52:32,480 --> 01:52:38,160
And I was like, bloody hell, my 
God, like what the, you know, 

1538
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:45,840
whoa, it's really stripy, really
like just, but you know, I'm 

1539
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,920
like, well, did my eye look like
that just the other day? 

1540
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:55,040
It was really interesting 
because the very Last Post 

1541
01:52:55,480 --> 01:53:00,240
that's on my Instagram is a 
photo of my eye. 

1542
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:06,320
And this is before the, the 
actual, you know, real shock of 

1543
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:12,400
the, you know, seeing them in, 
in as clear as day. 

1544
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,920
The fairies. 
I mean, I, I posted this picture

1545
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,320
of my eye and I right, I have 
something to say. 

1546
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:26,040
And so I went back to those 
pictures and, and kind of have 

1547
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:31,520
been trying to compare it, but I
think that the eye, those parts 

1548
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,040
are getting darker when I've 
been in a space of seeing them. 

1549
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,320
So yes, but that's really 
interesting. 

1550
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:43,520
I just thought it was. 
I'm fascinated by that detail. 

1551
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,360
It's. 
It's interest. 

1552
01:53:45,480 --> 01:53:48,280
It's interesting to hear that 
you're noticing that because, 

1553
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:56,440
well, I'll tell you what, short 
of getting into like a whole 

1554
01:53:56,440 --> 01:53:59,880
other hour long discussion just 
about eyes, which are super 

1555
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:03,760
amazing organs in every way. 
Oh my God, yes. 

1556
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:07,160
And, and Jim, I, I, I won't take
up your time for it now, but I 

1557
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:10,160
have another funny story to tell
you and it's to do with the eye.

1558
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:14,640
So, but yeah, I, I, I won't, I 
won't tell you now, if you want 

1559
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:16,680
to drop it in here now, I've got
I've got a few minutes. 

1560
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,720
No problem at all. 
OK, it's not like a scientific 

1561
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:24,120
thing, but it was such a crazy 
coincidence. 

1562
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:29,560
So it just OK, so I, it was 
about two weeks ago and, and 

1563
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:39,240
maybe it wasn't even maybe 10 
days ago and I was brushing my 

1564
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:43,080
teeth one night and I no, not 
brushing my teeth. 

1565
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:49,240
I did that and then I, I wash my
face, but I was also had the 

1566
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:52,960
mouthwash in my swishing around 
my mouth and I had my cheeks 

1567
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:57,600
puffed up and at the same time I
thought it would be efficient to

1568
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:03,200
wipe my face and, you know, have
the mouthwash in my mouth. 

1569
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:07,920
But I accidentally, you know, 
hit my cheek and squirted the 

1570
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:13,360
mouthwash out and it went 
straight into my left eye and I 

1571
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:20,240
was like, it bent and I was 
like, oh, typical like thing 

1572
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,680
that I always do this dorky 
shit. 

1573
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:28,920
And and then I was telling my 
parents in the morning because, 

1574
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,800
you know, I always like to 
entertain them. 

1575
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:35,960
And I was sitting at the kitchen
table, which I never sit at, 

1576
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:40,040
like in the spot as well. 
I mean, I just barely even sit 

1577
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:44,560
at that, that table. 
And I sat down in this spot. 

1578
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:48,600
There was a box in front of me 
which I'll mention in a second. 

1579
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:52,680
And, but I told him the story 
about the, the mouthwash falling

1580
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:57,440
in my eye. 
And then I, and then I, I said 

1581
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,920
to dad, Oh my, yeah, like, and 
that time like I did, I tell you

1582
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:05,600
when I, I got a chili flake in 
my eye, I, I, I made this 

1583
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:09,800
spaghetti and I, you know, made 
it like properly. 

1584
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:13,280
And I put this chili flakes in 
there and I was like, OK, like 

1585
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:18,600
this is gonna be amazing. 
And the very first bite I went 

1586
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:23,160
to take the a chili flake just 
went flew off the spaghetti and 

1587
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:26,720
straight into my left eye. 
And that was like, but like that

1588
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:32,720
I was like, Oh my God, it burnt 
so much anyway. 

1589
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,920
So those are the moments that 
that that like really straight 

1590
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:39,120
out to me. 
So I told him that and then in 

1591
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:43,000
front of me is a box that my 
sister dropped off because she's

1592
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:48,120
just moved house. 
And inside it is actually, well,

1593
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:56,280
it's my, my dad's parents ashes.
So two kind of coffee jars with 

1594
01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:02,240
their ashes inside, which he 
hadn't seen before and he didn't

1595
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:07,360
want to see them the other day. 
And then, and then I opened the 

1596
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:11,280
box because he. 
Yeah, he asked me, oh, all 

1597
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,360
right. 
Show, show me the ashes now. 

1598
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:18,000
Like, I'm ready. 
And I was like, OK, here you go.

1599
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:21,760
Because my sister had been 
taking care of them. 

1600
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:25,480
And inside the box as well was 
some of her things. 

1601
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:27,960
And there was a postcard that I 
sent her. 

1602
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:37,520
And it, I sent that postcard 
back in 2017 from Nepal and I 

1603
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,200
love reading my old postcards 
because I have a terrible 

1604
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,560
memory, like just when it comes 
to just like life kind of 

1605
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,960
events, like, you know, when 
you're hanging out with your 

1606
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,760
friends and stuff. 
If I, it's like, I really should

1607
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:54,520
have a diary. 
But I, I was reading this 

1608
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:56,760
postcard ascension. 
I was like, oh, like, that's 

1609
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,520
really funny. 
Like, just, you know, I was 

1610
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,360
reading it out and talking about
how I was just like sitting in 

1611
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:10,680
like this restaurant and 
Nepalese people are awesome. 

1612
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,480
And, and the hike I did was 
amazing. 

1613
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,480
And then I was like, got to the 
end of it and I was like, holy 

1614
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:22,360
shit. 
And my dad was like, what? 

1615
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,840
Then I was like, I can't make 
this up. 

1616
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:31,400
At the very end of that 
postcard, it says PSI just got 

1617
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,920
onion juice in my eye. 
Ouch. 

1618
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,640
And I was like all of the ones 
sitting and I was like, what the

1619
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,480
fuck? 
Just talking about getting stuff

1620
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,920
in my eye. 
And then this is the end of the 

1621
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:48,360
postcard I wrote years ago. 
I'm also saying I got onion 

1622
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,200
juice in my eye. 
And yeah. 

1623
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,760
And then all this and then and 
then, yeah, my eyes have opened 

1624
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,160
to this world. 
So yeah, it's just kind of 

1625
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,160
really weird. 
That's that's my life in 

1626
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,400
general. 
Just coincidences non-stop. 

1627
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,320
I like that. 
As a finishing note here 

1628
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:15,200
tonight, since we're talking so 
much about what we see, Brooke, 

1629
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,760
I ask everybody who comes on the
show the same question. 

1630
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,480
And so I'll ask it for you here 
tonight as we go to wind down 

1631
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,880
this conversation here. 
There's no right answer, no 

1632
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:31,760
wrong answer, obviously, because
no one knows what the answer is.

1633
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:35,400
But what you think about it is 
deeply interesting and important

1634
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,320
to me and everyone listening. 
So I'll ask you the question, 

1635
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:41,360
which is well, Brooke, what do 
you think fairies are? 

1636
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:56,280
I believe that they are, they're
almost like another race, 

1637
01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:01,640
another creature on this planet 
that we're sharing. 

1638
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:08,680
We're sharing it with them, but 
they're on another dimension and

1639
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:12,640
but they're connected with us as
well. 

1640
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:17,680
And I believe that they're just,
they're, I guess, the special 

1641
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:25,800
energy, that special like. 
Energy or entity or being that 

1642
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:35,840
is in both the higher realm and 
also they're like in the space 

1643
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:47,920
between and they are here to 
help us and we need to help them

1644
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:53,560
and we need to work together to 
help the earth. 

1645
02:00:54,320 --> 02:01:01,840
And I think without the fairies,
we wouldn't have joy. 

1646
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:17,920
And I think they are the love in
our hearts that they, they, 

1647
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:26,120
they, they're like the, the 
energy within all the beautiful 

1648
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:35,520
nature on this planet. 
And we all know that that is 

1649
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:44,080
what makes so many people happy.
And yeah, they just, I don't, I 

1650
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:45,320
don't know. 
I really don't. 

1651
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:51,040
I really don't have like a 
really, I mean, it's kind of 

1652
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,280
like asking what are humans 
like? 

1653
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:57,520
I mean, we don't even, we don't 
even bloody know where we are. 

1654
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:04,840
So yeah, we just another, just 
another being on this planet. 

1655
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:14,560
Your answer is awesome. 
And it is because one of the 

1656
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,320
tricks of that question is that 
it's really kind of asking what 

1657
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,080
are we? 
And I think you nailed it, 

1658
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,240
because how could one ever know?
But. 

1659
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:24,600
Everything you said. 
They're they're all that and 

1660
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,760
more and somehow nothing at all 
all at the same time. 

1661
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,680
And it's just perfect the way it
is. 

1662
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,040
Totally your answer. 
I really mean it. 

1663
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,880
Yeah, well, I'll, I'll tell you 
what, Brooke, out of respect for

1664
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:42,200
everyone's time, I will spend 
approximately one 1 1/2 minutes 

1665
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:44,960
just doing my podcaster 
housekeeping. 

1666
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,000
When I'm done, I always give my 
guests the last word. 

1667
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,320
So if you want to think about 
what your last word, be here 

1668
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,440
tonight. 
If it's cool with you, I will 

1669
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:56,360
sign off for the show. 
Yeah. 

1670
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:00,400
OK, cool. 
Well. 

1671
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,760
Tonight you've been listening to
Fascinating Faye. 

1672
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:06,280
I'm your host, Jim. 
If you've had an encounter and 

1673
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:09,040
you'd like to be on the show, 
just shoot me an e-mail 

1674
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:11,840
Encounters at 
fascinatingfaye.com. 

1675
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:16,520
You can also check out the new 
fascinating Fay episode 

1676
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:19,840
discussion Facebook group, which
is growing and has a lot of 

1677
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:23,720
really great conversations 
happening after these episodes 

1678
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:26,000
publish. 
If you are into that kind of 

1679
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,280
thing. 
And if you want to, you know, 

1680
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:31,240
talk to me, you can also shoot 
me Adm on any traditional 

1681
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,640
socials. 
With all that said, I will say 

1682
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:38,600
the following, which is that on 
behalf of all of our human and 

1683
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:42,600
non human listeners tuning in to
fascinated Faye tonight, a super

1684
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:44,680
big thanks to Brooke from 
Australia for coming on the 

1685
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:46,920
show. 
Brooke, thanks for coming on the

1686
02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:48,360
show. 
I really appreciate it and I 

1687
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:49,960
really enjoyed talking with you 
today. 

1688
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:54,840
Thank you so much, Jim. 
It means a lot to me. 

1689
02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:59,840
I my mind is blown. 
Did you want me to say my last 

1690
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:02,000
piece? 
Please do. 

1691
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:03,440
Yeah. 
With with all that said, your 

1692
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:09,960
last words totally are what 
comes next, I think. 

1693
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:14,400
Yeah, just what I want to say is
be yourself. 

1694
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:22,320
Embrace your inner child. 
Just don't take life so 

1695
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:24,880
seriously. 
It's it's. 

1696
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:44,800
We just have to have fun. 
Crystal skies are my eyes in an 

1697
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:49,000
easy way. 
Horizon blue is the waters. 

1698
02:04:49,000 --> 02:05:02,600
Play a tune for those ashore. 
Sounds of laughter cross the 

1699
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:10,160
street to the diving room, soon 
to be the rising moon like the 

1700
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:23,280
night before, and graduation 
came so suddenly. 

1701
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:34,800
View is vague from the top, the 
hills we've climbed in. 

1702
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:38,280
What to see, I don't know what 
to see. 

1703
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:52,360
Just another page in time on a 
ship or sail with purpose to 

1704
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:58,800
guide us through the years. 
Yesterday's, tomorrow's night, 

1705
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:06,280
it's finally coming clear. 
On a boat to drift to guide us. 

1706
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:13,720
We're floating past our fears. 
We don't see no sorrow now. 

1707
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:55,640
It's true. 
The memories of days for gone 

1708
02:06:55,640 --> 02:07:00,760
up, passing by. 
We dream beneath the open sky 

1709
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:14,520
and we are free. 
Open ocean whispers on some 

1710
02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:19,120
lands afar. 
I travel there with my guitar. 

1711
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:38,040
Across the sea in graduation 
came so suddenly, the viewers 

1712
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:46,920
vague from outside the hills 
we've climbed in what to see. 

1713
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:59,560
I don't know what to see. 
Just another page in a time on a

1714
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:05,200
ship or sail with purpose to 
guide us through the years. 

1715
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:14,440
Yesterday's tomorrow's night. 
It's finally come clear on a 

1716
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:20,200
boat to drift to guide us. 
We're floating past our fears. 

1717
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:25,960
We don't see no sorrow now, it's
true. 

1718
02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:34,840
On the ship or sail with purpose
to guide us through the years. 

1719
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:43,960
Yesterday's, tomorrow's night. 
It's finally coming clear on a 

1720
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:49,560
boat to drift to guide us. 
We're floating past our few 

1721
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:54,600
years. 
We don't see no sorrow now, it's

1722
02:08:54,640 --> 02:09:01,800
true. 
We don't see no sorrow now it's 

1723
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:08,240
true. 
We don't see no sorrow now. 

1724
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:14,200
It's true. 
I am amazed at the thing she's 

1725
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,360
seeing. 
I can't wait for the episode 

1726
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:23,640
because I feel like she's saving
some stories of course and but I

1727
02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:27,880
got to see a lot of pics. 
OK, Hopefully she showed you 

1728
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:30,160
some after. 
I was like ask her to see some 

1729
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:38,920
easy ones because some of them 
are like whoa, undeniable. 

1730
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:42,960
Like there's one in particular 
that I am obsessed with. 

1731
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:46,360
I have a screenshot of it and I 
like zoomed in and took a 

1732
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:48,480
screenshot and I'm like, Yep, 
met that guy. 

1733
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:50,880
I met that guy.
