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In the name of the glorious 
Trinity, Father and Son and Holy

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Spirit forever. 
Amen. 

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Glory be to the everlasting 
mercies which sent you to us, O 

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Christ, the light of the world 
and the life of all. 

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Give us wisdom by your law and 
enlighten our impulses by your 

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knowledge. 
Sanctify our souls by your 

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truth, and grant that we may be 
obedient to your words and may 

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fulfil your commandments at 
every hour. 

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O you who enlightens the 
rationale with the knowledge of 

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your greatness, do enlighten, my
Lord, our thoughts, that we may 

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meditate upon your holy and 
divine scriptures at all times, 

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O Lord of all, Father and Son 
and Holy Spirit forever. 

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Amen. 
bless you. 

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I love the music. 
This is a second take, guys. 

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You know what happened when I 
when we first did this and I 

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sang We have a light here and it
just illumined. 

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So I think it was the light was 
inspiredly moved and it was you 

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know, yeah, Robbie, what do I 
need to do to become an acolyte,

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A clergyman, a pre lading the 
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Beautiful question. 
Very, very very. 

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You know a good question and I, 
you know constantly receive the 

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you know I'm asked these 
questions Robbie what do I need 

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to do to become a Clyde 
clergyman prelate or in the 

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church. 
Let's just take it one step at 

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our time right. 
I remember I was during the the 

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the wedding services, the 
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There is a prayer that the final
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and we say that may sons come 
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I'm sorry, May God bless you 
with sons and may priests come 

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forth from your loins. 
So every bridegroom that is 

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blessed on his wedding day in 
the Assyrian Church of the East,

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this prayer is set or preyed 
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That bridegroom. 
You know, it resonates with me 

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because my father was blessed 
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Church of the East and the same 
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was wistowed. 
And here I am to them not 

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meaning that everyone's gonna be
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And I remember one day when I 
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and you know I gave a 5 minute 
channel, I said, my dear 

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bridegroom, I forgot the name. 
Did you hear what what I prayed 

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what we what we prayed for you. 
What we ask the Lord to bless 

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you with is one day hopefully 
you have a son And he became a 

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comes a priest. 
He goes, hey Rabi Patriarch, I 

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said relax. 
First let's let's let's go over 

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the priestly hurdle and then God
willing, patriarch. 

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So yeah that's a very, very nice
question. 

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Very valid question and a 
question that I'd like to hear 

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from many of my brothers within 
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And if you are asking that 
question, this episode is for 

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you. 
And maybe the you are not asking

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this question, but this episode 
can help you answer those who 

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are asking the question. 
Again, Robbie, what do I need to

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do to become an acolyte, A 
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church? 
Well, it begins from the heart. 

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It begins in the heart and it 
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And not just emotions, not a one
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Because you see someone 
receiving an order in the church

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like monkey see monkey do. 
And I've had those, those 

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emotional urges. 
I want to become a priest. 

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I want to become a Bishop. 
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I'm sorry. 
I want to become a Deacon. 

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Why? 
Because your friend becomes a 

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Deacon. 
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could be a a, a calling, a 
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But it it shouldn't be something
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when it's from the heart and a 
genuine desire which only the 

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Lord can determine. 
Then we are told in Proverbs 

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chapter 16, verse 9, the heart 
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So you put things in your heart.
I want to do this. 

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I put in my heart that I want to
become. 

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I want to receive a church 
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So the heart, your heart has 
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But the Lord God orders the 
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So God has to take, then take 
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and set the path for this. 
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heart is a genuine desire to 
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for the glory of God and the 
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One Corinthians 1031 You shall 
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God, Not because my grandfather 
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was, or my uncle was. 
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glory of God and salvation of 
souls, which is the will of God 

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that you want to glorify with 
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In one Timothy chapter 2, verse 
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all people shall have life, life
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and shall be converted to the 
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This is what this must be. 
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desire for you to be desiring to
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orders to serve God for the 
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of souls. 
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and there are many more, there 
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always keep in mind, and that 
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he. 
I don't choose. 

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You don't choose, but Christ 
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disciples in John chapter 15, 
verse 16. 

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You have not chosen me, but I 
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appointed you so that you also 
will go bring forth fruit, and 

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your fruit will remain. 
See, there is the desire. 

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I have a desire, but it's Christ
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brings to fruition That desire 
and that desire is to go and 

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bring forth fruit. 
What is that One fruit that the 

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Lord desires and is totally 
appeased and pleased with is the

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salvation of souls. 
Now one question I ask is, do 

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you know what you are requesting
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entails? 
Do you know what you are 

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desiring? 
Do you know The Who, the what, 

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the where, the how's of this 
gift that you are desiring to 

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receive to be graciously given 
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And do you know again that this 
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desiring, when it is graciously 
given to you, it is only for you

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to use to share the love and 
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Do you know where it's from? 
It's not about the person 

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ordaining. 
It's not about the tribe. 

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It's not about the church that 
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No where does it come from? 
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Well, James chapter one, verse 
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Every good and perfect gift 
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It's God. 
You're asking God. 

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Lord, give me Lord. 
I desire Lord, I am praying for 

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you, for the Father of lights, 
He goes on with whom there is no

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change nor a shadow of 
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And that's why saying Timothy 
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chapter 3 verses 8 to 10 to 
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receive these gifts. 
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deacons or ministers should be 
pure, and should not double 

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speak, neither be inclined to 
much wine drunkardness, nor love

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defiled riches, gambling, But 
they should hold the mystery of 

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the faith in a pure conscience. 
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should be held in faith and pure
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such should be first proved and 
then let them serve, being 

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without fault. 
So it's just not just about I 

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want to do this. 
But first and foremost, do you 

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approve yourself? 
Have you examined your motive, 

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your heart? 
Have you examined where you are 

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in your relationship with God? 
We spoke about that last 

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episode, and again Second 
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But a servant of our Lord ought 
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toward every person. 
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Not a doormat, but not to fight 
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No. 
But be ready to give an answer, 

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and to defend yourself when it's
the truth, but not in fighting 

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with a humble spirit. 
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ought not to fight. 
Ought not to fight, but to be 

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humble toward every person, 
instructive and long-suffering, 

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that he may instruct with 
humility those who dispute 

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against him. 
Humility. 

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So this is what what a a person 
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ordained. 
This is his oath of office. 

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When he is reading this. 
We're too busy with the pictures

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and selfies and maybe, you know,
the parents are so overwhelmed 

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and you know, people are just so
excited because there's a 

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friend, a brother and someone 
who's in the church receiving 

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rankings. 
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listening to this so that one 
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So it's all my brother deacons 
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the subdeacons. 
Just a friend, really reminder 

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this is what you signed up to. 
This is what you promised God 

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before his Holy altar, the 
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Metropolitan, that you received 
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This is what you promised the 
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You say you have said this as I 
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selected or chosen to receive 
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I promise I will be a servant in
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I will serve in all 
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humility. 
I promise I will fulfill the 

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service of the diaconate. 
We're not going to go to into 

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what it is, But just as a 
reminder, I promise that I will 

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fulfill the service of the 
diaconate. 

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I will preserve myself in 
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Shapiro dubare. 
I will be an example, a good 

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example to those within and 
those without equally. 

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This is the prompt. 
This is the both of the office. 

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This one is in particular to the
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Now, one other important factor 
to remember at all times when we

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desire and want to approach 
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And I'll give you a a rundown of
what you know sequentially what 

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we need to do when we want this.
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remember is that the rankings, 
the orders of the Church have 

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all been sanctified and 
fulfilled by Christ himself 

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during His ministry on earth. 
Let's take the order of the 

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Lecter or the reader Karuya. 
What does the Karuya do? 

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The Lecter. 
He reads the Old Testament, that

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is from the Law or the Prophets.
You know the the liturgy of the 

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of the Divine Liturgies. 
Usually it's a reading from the 

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Law, and then immediately after 
there's a reading from the 

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prophets. 
But now we just read the one 

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reading either the Law or the 
Prophets. 

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So the reader or the Lecter 
Aruya reads from the Law or the 

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Prophets and the Acts of the 
Apostles before the 

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congregation. 
Nothing about trying to, you 

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know, show how well you read 
this, the Assyrian language. 

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Nothing about clapping. 
I remember was I was in a 

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church. 
I can't remember where the 

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reader or the Lecter read his 
his election and the family 

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clapped. 
I turned around and said no, 

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this is not about applauding 
someone. 

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Did you listen to what he read? 
There's instructions in these 

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readings, right? 
It's not about that. 

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It's about fulfilling what Jesus
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He already sanctified and 
fulfilled it. 

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It's about doing what Christ 
did. 

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Jesus served and sanctified this
order when he was given the 

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scroll of Isaiah the prophet 
Luke. 

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Chapter 4, verse 16 to 17. 
Read it. 

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It's got nothing to do with how 
cute or how wealthy Assyrian 

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language is. 
Oh, he's young. 

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He's reading that. 
It's it's not a show. 

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These are Holy Orders. 
They're instituted in the Divine

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Liturgy of Holy Urbana for the 
renewal and salvation of our 

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souls. 
So let's begin with the ranking 

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of the Lecter. 
When you read the election 

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reading again, we may think it's
only a reading. 

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No, no, no. 
You're a part of that service on

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that Sunday or any other day 
where the Divine Liturgy of Holy

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Qurbana is being celebrated. 
You are a part of the renewal 

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and the salvation of the souls 
of those who are listening to 

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you. 
Wow, Wow. 

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I just thought it was Ohm 
Shapir. 

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Oh, you got a beautiful voice. 
Because you know why? 

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You know why I just said that? 
That's how I used to perceive 

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the diaconate. 
You have a nice voice. 

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You should be a priest because 
you have a nice voice. 

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But you know when God, very 
gently and lovely, slaps you in 

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the face and says, no, no, no, 
no, no. 

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You are a part of the renewal 
and the salvation of your soul 

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and all those who you are 
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It's about serving the order of 
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himself. 
So what are the steps? 

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Let's go through the steps. 
Pray, pray, pray. 

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And while praying, examine your 
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Why do I want this? 
Consult your parish priest. 

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Open your heart, Express your 
desire to the parish priest. 

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Learn the Assyrian language. 
Many people who ask me that 

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they'd like to approach the 
diaconate. 

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So do you read Assyrian? 
No. 

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Well, first and foremost, along 
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examining, you need to learn the
language. 

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How you gonna serve when you 
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ancient Assyrian language, the 
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vernacular attend services? 
Not just that Sunday. 

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No attend Vespas. 
Slaughter Pramsha. 

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Every person that has a ranking 
in the Church will tell you that

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that is the place where you 
learn when you grow in the 

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liturgy. 
Because you're serving the 

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liturgy. 
Remember Pasa. 

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Attend slaughter. 
Pramsha Vespas, Attend the 

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Matins slaughtered Lilia in the 
morning, attend the morning 

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prayers, Slaughtered supper 
regularly. 

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At first you may not know, you 
may not understand, you may be 

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struggling. 
But I assure you, if the motive 

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and the intent is to glorify God
and to and for the salvation of 

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the souls, you'll be amazed. 
Let me give you a living 

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testimony. 
Not sure if I spoke about this 

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when I was interviewed by 
Kristen when I was young. 

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And I'm telling you young. 
I'm talking about 11 years old. 

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My dad would say we'll go to 
church every Sunday. 

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You need to go and sit with 
those people that are in front. 

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I did. 
OK. 

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Just a reminder. 
Save it. 

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Thank you, my producer. 
Let me say. 

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And I used to be frowned upon, 
but you know, it's just like 

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last episode. 
If I didn't take a dive from the

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4th platform, Creation might be 
as they say. 

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I just used to sit there taking 
all the frownings and the 

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looking down upon one day. 
And God is my witness now. 

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I used to also, you know, study 
the Assyrian language. 

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I used to go to the Assyrian 
school and my dad used to help 

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me with reading. 
One day I opened, I opened the 

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Book of the Hodra, the Circle. 
It is all in Leshanatita, in the

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ancient Assyrian, in the Aramaic
language. 

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I promise you, God is my 
witness. 

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I started reading. 
I was. 

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I wanted to get up and say I'm 
reading. 

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And from that point onwards, 
little did I know that God was 

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preparing this most foolish, 
most illiterate, weak servant 

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that he was preparing. 
The reason why I said that, and 

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I repeated it one more time, is 
that if your intent is right, if

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your motive is to glorify God 
and serve the Lord in his 

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church, the Lord will help. 
You will be surprised. 

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Now, I'm not saying that you're 
one day going to receive a 

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miracle and you're going to 
start, you know, reading the 

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Aramaic language. 
But then God works in mysterious

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ways, prays between his name. 
Attend Bible studies. 

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Now, unfortunately, I'm sorry, 
and I will call a spade a spade.

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I will not defend the 
indefensible. 

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But at times we forget that 
those who are being trained to 

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receive orders. 
All we concentrate on is Lishana

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Tikka. 
Lishana tikka. 

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Learn the Lishana Tikka. 
Oh, he's reading so fluently. 

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But what about knowing the 
Christ that this young man will 

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be serving? 
Attend Bible studies, read the 

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Holy Scriptures, read the lives 
of the holy Saints again while 

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you're praying and examining 
your heart and consulting your 

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parish priests, learning the 
language, attending the 

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services, attending Bible 
studies and consult with other 

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acolytes, other deacons, and see
what the lifestyle is like. 

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What are the challenges? 
What are the downfalls, if there

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is any? 
What are the the difficulties 

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and how do you overcome that? 
And most importantly, most 

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importantly, prepare for a 
lifetime, a life changing, a 

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serious and genuine commitment. 
It's a lifetime commitment, 

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beloved. 
If you receive the order or the 

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rank at the age of 16, when you 
stand before the Lord at the age

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of 116 gazillion years, you will
have to give an account because 

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it's a gift. 
A gift that was purchased by the

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Precious Blood of our Lord and 
Savior Jesus Christ on the 

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cross. 
We will give that account. 

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We will be held accountable. 
And lastly, no, actually, second

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last, be prepared to serve the 
church again for the glory of 

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God and salvation of others, and
wait for the Lord. 

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Wow, that's nine according to 
the 9 rankings of the church. 

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Wait for the Lord. 
Not your time, not your priest's

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timing, not the Bishop's timing.
No, no, no, the timing of the 

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Lord. 
Psalm 46, chapter 10. 

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Return and know that I am God, 
or in some versions, be still 

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and know that I am God. 
Praise and glory be to his holy 

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name, now and at all times and 
forever. 

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Amen. 
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