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In the name of the glorious 
Trinity, Father and Son and Holy

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Spirit, forever Amen. 
Glory be to the everlasting 

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mercies which sent you to us. 
O Christ, the light of the world

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and the life of all. 
Give us wisdom by Your law and 

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enlighten our impulses by Your 
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Sanctify our souls by Your truth
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obedient to Your words and may 
fulfill Your commandments at 

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every hour. 
O You who enlightens the 

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rationale with the knowledge of 
Your greatness, do enlight, O my

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Lord, our thoughts, that we may 
meditate upon Your holy and 

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divine Scriptures at all times. 
O Lord of all, Father and Son 

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and Holy Spirit, forever. 
Amen. 

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A heartfelt thank you and 
gratitude to all our brothers 

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and sisters, our beloved 
listeners, for their expression 

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of joy and pleasure in the 
interview that was arranged and 

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conducted with our beloved 
patriarch. 

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He's holding a smart hour, the 
third Catholicos patriarch. 

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A great thank you to our 
producers who put that interview

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together. 
And I know that many of you 

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liked it and you've shared it 
and you've loved it and many 

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comments. 
Great feedback and thank you and

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God bless you. 
We like when we hear from you 

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and when we you know, we get 
your feedback so that we can 

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only better this program, these 
episodes and only for one reason

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1 focal focal purpose, which is 
for the glory of God and the 

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salvation of our souls. 
Today we are blessed one more 

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time with the interview that 
we're going to conduct with our 

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two beloved brothers and sisters
very well known within the youth

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community of the same Church of 
the East North America, all the 

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diocese. 
The names will not be strange to

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you. 
And we are recording currently 

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at the 36th Annual Youth 
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of the East, North America. 
And we the producers saw that it

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was a great opportunity to speak
with these lovely people and to 

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get to know them, to get to hear
their beautiful voices. 

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We've, we've done 35,000 sound 
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So it's great and to ask them 
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And I believe and I pray that I 
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on your minds, minds and on your
heart. 

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My beloved newly ordained one 
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Well, this will be Monday. 
So my one week or two weeks ago,

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newly ordained priest, my 
beloved brother, Rabbi Kasha 

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Roman Father Andrew Aziz. 
Rabbi, welcome. 

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Rabbi Kasha, thank you very much
for the kind and warm welcoming.

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It's my honor and joy, and I'm 
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podcast for the second time. 
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the 35th Conference in 
Sacramento that I was also 

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blessed to be on the podcast 
with you as we discussed last 

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year's theme and the overall 
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So it's it's my joy and pleasure
to be with you again. 

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So you've been on the episode 
before? 

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I have. 
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So this is not new. 
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OK. 
Well, this changes the mood now.

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Now. 
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And also our beloved first lady,
my sister Ninva Aziz. 

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Misses Ninve Aziz. 
Welcome, Khati. 

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I know the first time on 
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We'll be. 
We'll be gentle with you. 

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We'll be kind with you. 
Thank you, Ravi. 

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Yeah, my first time on the 
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I heard you were very, very 
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Very excited. 
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excited. 
Next, and I'll give you the $100

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afterwards. 
OK, let's get straight into it. 

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Rabbi Kasha Aziza. 
Rabbi Kasha means teacher, 

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priest, beloved Rabbi Kasha, the
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youth conference hosted by the 
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the city of Irvine in 
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You both are very much involved.
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conference and the preparations 
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moment. 
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Oh, this is Sunday, today is 
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I'm sorry. 
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Eucharist and the party's going 
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And we're here, we are talking 
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interview. 
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You got to look at timing. 
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conference thus far, please. 
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So I want to take it back to the
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the 36th annual. 
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really, really an amazing effort
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East. 
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fruits of the, the, the the 
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There was a today, there was an 
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deacons that belong to one of 
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from Saint Mary's and two youth 
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elector, one was a sub Deacon. 
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looked down and there was about 
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the across the other diocese. 
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that we see from, from the, from
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I think it has, it's played a, 
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development and the nurturing, 
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see from our, our young 
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are receiving the, the ranks in 
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That, that we see their, their 
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their church, for their, for 
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wanting to serve in the church 
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you know, participation in all 
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conferences and, and they're in 
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well. 
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planning this conference about a
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ago, when, when we knew it was 
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Archdeacon, you at the at the 
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Bishop and you know, he he 
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the chairman of the conference 
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we've worked well together in 
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community and you know, she was 
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subcommittee of conference 
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year and a half, we've been all 
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and simultaneously really put 
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So today, like you mentioned 
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conferences obviously on the 
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welcoming. 
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looking at the theme, the theme 
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by the NEC, the National 
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On which rabbit Asha is the 
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Yes, yes, I, yes, I am. 
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done from our Lord's Prayer in 
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like we say that will be done. 
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amazing lectures on the Friday 
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And we've been receiving very, 
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680 attendees. 
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number that we've had at this 
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So just just the very basic 
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But it's always refreshing and, 
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see all of the new faces and, 
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them grow that every, you know, 
year by year that passes their 

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own spiritual development and, 
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work that they do in their own 
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encouraging to see everybody 
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enjoying the conference itself. 
So Friday, Saturday we had our 

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own programs. 
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with our patriarch, His Holiness
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had classes. 
We had a sports picnic that went

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very very well. 
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It was the best one. 
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No dancing, no music, no, it was
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But you know, His Grace Marpolis
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He said he was cut Jack music. 
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there. 
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sports competition, the 
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LA right. 
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sometimes I was sort of walking 
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okay, congratulations that I'll 
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Arizona one, we were very happy 
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Dice lucky I wasn't playing it 
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We would have lost the the 
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to be the volleyball tournament 
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so many of our members that that
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So we were able to open it to 
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to put together some teams. 
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participating and, and that that
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successful. 
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fellowship factor that, you 
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spiritual aspect of the 
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volleyball, the fellowship time,
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that last, those are memories 
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those young. 
Men, we had some injuries as 

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I think we, we did have a few, 
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The great thing about the 
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friendships that are made and 
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they're constantly talking and 
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another until the following 
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Misses as misses. 
Robbie Pasha Aziz. 

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Never publicly. 
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What was your involvement? 

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Just. 
Honestly, Robbie, everything 

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that Robbie Asha does, I always 
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in it. 
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Yeah, by default, but whether he
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come up and he accepts most of 
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So the process was, you know, we
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continued doing things, we did 
start planning about what was it

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Half ago, a year and a half ago,
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I was busy with my own things at
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And then as we got closer, I 
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through the subcommittee's and 
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And I think, you know, for the 
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smoothly. 
We do pretty good as a team. 

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You've made it this far. 
There's always going to be 

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shortfalls and issues. 
I mean, hosting 680 young men 

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and women already away from 
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in their hotels room. 
We always have issues. 

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But considering the great amount
I, I'm, I'm hearing great 

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positive feedback and we'll wait
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have that survey obviously and 
we'll wait till see after the 

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conclusion what is the final 
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I'm sure it's going to be 
positive. 

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I'm sure it's going to be. 
God willing, God willing, we've 

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been hearing a lot of 
positivity. 

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Obviously, like you said, you 
can't fulfill everybody's needs 

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in the especially with such a 
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But one thing about Nenua I 
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mention was with with regards to
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I'm not very tech savvy. 
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up for me to do a design or any 
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organizational thing on that's 
not my expertise. 

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When? 

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When she, when she, when she 
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struggling or falling behind, 
she's done an amazing job at, 

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like you said, of, of, of being 
there for me and being there for

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the church. 
She's not really there for me. 

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It's just I've been selected to 
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lead this group. 
But her among many others that 

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were able to help. 
They did all of the work, as you

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know, like you just mentioned to
my ordination was a week ago. 

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And so I was very busy with, 
with regards to, you know, sort 

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of doing the transition between 
my, my, my job in the past, my 

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engineering job and then 
transitioning into preparations 

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for the priesthood and the, the 
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So really Ninoy and the rest of 
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working on this conference 
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And I just kind of came in at 
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All the credits. 
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We say in a serum the workers 
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eat from the fruits. 
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Indian support group, India 
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and Robert Gluella, elector 
Robert, sometimes I call him, 

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he's in Australia. 
Some of it's 3:00 in the 

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morning. 
I'll call him Robert. 

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Why can I not get into my so 
tech savvy man? 

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We don't need it. 
I'll be and next year's 

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conference is obviously was 
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year ago. 
Let's talk about that, Canada. 

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Toronto, Canada. 
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The first time we'll be. 
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North American conference here. 
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fruitful 1. 
Yeah, and they're very, very 

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excited. 
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Canada is involved. 
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year, third year, third year 
that Canada is involved. 

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There's a great number of youth 
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You know, you have to, it's an 
international flight and they're

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very excited and always, there's
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we're always there to help them.
And I'm very excited. 

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And I think the youth are very 
excited too. 

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So hopefully they'll host a 
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and the years will go on and on 
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And one day we'll be one of 
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I was a part of this. 
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and. 
I wonder how the conference is 

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going to be in 2036 or 202045, 
Right. 

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Yeah, we'll be around, God 
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and my grandchildren. 
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We'll be teaching them. 
I was one thing you, I I 

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mentioned the other day when one
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that my second conference, 2010,
The slaps, the slaps. 

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You were you were one of the 
priests. 

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That was we everybody Father 
Gennard was notorious for. 

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For the slaps, yeah, yeah, No, 
it was a loving slap. 

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It was a loving slap just when 
we answered. 

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Yeah, when? 
We answered. 

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Correctly. 
And look where you are today. 

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It must have been the slap. 
OK, let's go into the not the 

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private life, but let's go and 
and ask a little bit about Rabbi

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Asha Andrew. 
And Mrs. Rabbi Asha Andrew, tell

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us a little bit about Father 
Andrew Aziz. 

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My name is Andrew Aziz. 
No, I am. 

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I'm 28 years old. 
I'll be soon to be 29. 

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I was. 
Recently, every single day I was

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up until the final day of his 
birthday. 

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I was I was recently ordained to
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serving in the Diocese of 
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with the Youth Association as 
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our parish priests in in Arizona
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Mario Sep Nani Sugar Gilbert, AZ
with Reverend Hoshaba Schleman, 

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who is the parish priest, our 
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Peter's Cathedral with Reverend 
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priest. 
And we have a new mission parish

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in Surprise, AZ with Reverend 
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with me as well. 
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three pair, those three parish 
priests and, and, and their, you

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know, daily ecclesiastical life.
And I and I look forward to it. 

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It's it's a calling from, from 
God. 

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It's a vocation that I felt the 
passion and I felt the calling 

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with so many years, so many, so 
many times throughout the years 

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where Reverend fathers like 
yourself have approached me with

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regards to, you know, taking 
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and, and answering that calling.
And I am blessed to have 

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somebody that is by my side as, 
as the person sitting next to me

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is by allowing me to, to follow 
that vocation to, you know, as I

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mentioned earlier, I was, I was 
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engineer for a semiconductor 
company. 

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But when the calling grew and I 
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I, one of the things that a lot 
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that, oh, you're young, you 
should wait. 

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You know, Mukhmad, you said, why
are you rushing into this? 

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You know you can. 
You have so many years ahead of 

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you. 
King David wasn't too old, was. 

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He he was young. 
He was the youngest. 

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One, he was the youngest one, 
yeah. 

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And, and for me, it wasn't 
really about my age. 

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I didn't feel like the age was 
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this. 
It was more of, you know, the 

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calling is there and if I have 
somebody and then not just my 

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wife, but my entire family was 
some was the people that were 

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supporting me, but more so you 
need your wife's support in 

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this. 
So she was able and and willing 

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and, and just this passion, if 
not more so, to allow me to 

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follow this. 
And, you know, she said, if we 

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have the right circumstances and
we have, you know, the, the 

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right environment where, you 
know, you have the support from 

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other priests and, and you have 
the support of the youth in the 

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community, you know, this is 
something that you're willing to

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do. 
And, and, and if this is God's 

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calling, God's going to guide 
you through it. 

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God's going to guide us through 
it. 

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So, you know, I, I, I was, I, I 
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who is currently our patriarchal
vicar in, in the diocese. 

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And, you know, we, we spoke at 
length about the responsibility 

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and, and what my role in the 
diocese is going to be. 

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And after further prayer and, 
and meditation on the subject, 

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I, I was, I was, you know, I, we
were able to commit to it. 

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How long did you serve as a 
Deacon? 

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I was I was serving as a Deacon 
for 10 years, 2014 May of 2014 I

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was ordained and June of 2024 I 
was ordained a priest. 

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And when did Madame Nineveh 
coming to play? 

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And the has to be in the 
conference, right. 

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Conference crush. 
Well, was it a conference crush?

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It was parish. 
It was a parish. 

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Parish crush. 
Oh, OK, Yeah. 20 Would you want 

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to answer this? 
Or do you want? 

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To answer, I guess we can admit 
to it now. 

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Yeah, so 2014, we were serving 
in the committee together. 

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We were the. 
So myself, Nuet and I were very 

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good brother, dear brother 
Marcel, we were the three sort 

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of first committee members of 
our parishes youth group, OK and

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Ninoy was our vice or she was 
our secretary slash treasurer. 

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Marcel was my vice president 
and. 

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No. 
Secretary slash Treasurer slash 

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parish crush, Yes. 
Yes, but so that that the 

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working in the in the parish 
developed our relationship, I I 

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noticed besides her, her beauty,
but I noticed just her works and

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her zeal and her passion and all
of these things. 

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And I didn't look. 
Like this in 20? 

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14 so I don't know what he's 
talking. 

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About we we built a great 
friendship. 

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That's what it was first and and
working together. 

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So that that was what allowed 
us. 

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We started going out, hanging 
out during those times and. 

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We would have committee meetings
and we would tell Marcel that, 

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you know, we got it, don't worry
about it. 

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We'll take care of. 
It I would invite her out to 

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coffee just for, you know, 
Starbucks. 

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Don't call us, we'll call you. 
Master. 

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Well, isn't it, you know, as it 
was speaking Bobby, God made Eve

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in one of the the doctrinal 
hymns we say Adam is lamenting 

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because he was expelled from 
paradise in the garden of Edom 

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and he's laments and he says she
who was made to be a helper. 

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Tane turned, turned and became a
pusher and she brought 

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destruction to me and my 
children. 

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But you were in that Garden of 
Eden which is the church, and 

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thank God that Nineveh became 
that helper. 

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And little did you know back 
then, This is why God says my 

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ways are not your ways, Your 
thoughts are not my faults. 

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Or is it the other way around? 
Regardless, little did you know 

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back then was that she would be 
your helper for this day and for

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the future. 
We don't know what God has 

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installed, you know, But it's 
great because while you're 

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focused on the Word of God, then
God blesses you with this union 

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and you know the attraction and 
what have you. 

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None of it as a star being being
with Ravi as a Shamasha. 

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You were still studying by then 
and your your field is. 

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Architecture graduated with my 
master's in architecture in 

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2022, the same year we got 
married. 

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I graduated 10 days before our 
wedding, actually. 

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Oh wow. 
Yeah, congratulate. 

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When did you get married? 
Sorry. 

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May 21st of 2022. 
I'm sorry I should have asked 

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that. 
I'll be if you remembered. 

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Yeah. 
I have it. 

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No, I have it in my notes. 
So it's been May 25th. 

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Oh, you have one Year 2? 
Years, OK. 

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OK, so back then, obviously 
Shamasha more available to go 

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out for coffee and what you're 
saying and you know, more time 

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to spend together then this 
curveball, if we may say lack of

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a better term comes around and 
it the priesthood comes in then.

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And you know, I'm sure you're 
you're very smart and clever to 

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know that. 
And being in the church, you 

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know that that responsibility 
requires a lot of sacrifice. 

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And, you know, being a priest, a
married priest, actually being a

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grandfather, the sacrifice, you 
know, people say, oh, you've 

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sacrificed your life for Christ.
I mean, but I believe the 

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sacrifice is greater on the 
partner or the wife. 

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What was your first initial 
reaction thought when Shamasha 

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Andrew back then came and said, 
honey, darling, whatever you 

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call this is God is calling me 
to this. 

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Honestly, Robbie, a lot of 
people, especially in the last 

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few weeks have asked me about 
how I feel about all of this and

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what my initial reaction was and
all that. 

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And a lot of times it was hard 
for me to I, I always go, I 

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don't know, like I still can't 
answer that. 

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But initially when it was 
brought up, of course I'm human.

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I had the, I had the initial 
reaction of starting to worry 

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and started to think about all 
the factors that were to come in

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the future. 
And at first I was very hesitant

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about it. 
And then, but I didn't reflect 

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that on Shamasha at the time. 
I wouldn't, I wasn't very 

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negative to him because I knew 
deep down that this is, this was

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always his calling and he's very
passionate about it. 

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And I know very well what it, 
what it's like to be passionate 

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about something and how I feel 
living that as my career 

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day-to-day and applying it to 
everything that I do. 

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And I knew that was his passion.
Engineering was never his 

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passion. 
I think he did it just because 

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he's, he, anything he puts his 
mind to, he kind of gets it 

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done. 
So I knew that's what he wanted 

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to do internally. 
I would think about it a lot. 

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I'd, I'd kind of, you know, go 
back and forth. 

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But at the end of the day, I 
also always had a very strong 

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passion for serving the church. 
And I remember being very young 

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and thinking to myself, in what 
ways can I serve when I'm older?

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I want to serve, I want to 
serve. 

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And very recently I told 
Shamasha at the time, you know, 

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look, God's made it happen. 
I used to have these thoughts as

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a kid, like serving the church, 
and not just the church, but 

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also the Assyrian community in 
different ways. 

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And, and now I feel like we have
that opportunity and we have 

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that platform and we have that, 
you know, through Christ to be 

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able to do all of that. 
So, you know, I just went for it

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and supported him in everything 
that he wanted to do and. 

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Let me take a step back. 
Blessings and kudos to your 

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parents obviously, because they 
instill the passion big time. 

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They lit that light and Christ 
illuminated it and, and let it 

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glow. 
And now here you are today. 

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And I'm sure when your parents 
are praying both of you, I'm 

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sure they thank God and they 
thank him for the blessings that

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you have received because it is 
their blessings as well. 

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So you know, then you're ready 
to go. 

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You're, you've made-up your mind
obviously through prayer and, 

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and you know, fasting and 
consultation, obviously. 

448
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,320
But I know not going too much 
into details that you mentioned 

449
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,560
engineering, obviously Ravi 
Raja, and that didn't come 

450
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,720
overnight. 
A lot of studies and what have 

451
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,880
you, but again, another 
sacrifice on both of your behalf

452
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:29,160
where you left that field, that 
profession, you sacrificed a lot

453
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,080
and you've obviously we, you 
know, we say mental ill and 

454
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,600
Allah, God doesn't own us, owe 
us anything for us, you know, 

455
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,760
but you sacrificed a lot. 
How difficult or was it easy for

456
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,200
you to come, both of you 
together collectively, say, you 

457
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,160
know what, no, I'm ready to 
sacrifice and to serve the Lord.

458
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040
I can take this one and then you
can add anything if you'd like 

459
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,360
for, for me again, Robbie, like,
like Nuno said, engineering was 

460
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,960
something that I studied 
obviously in, in school and I 

461
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,200
received my bachelor's degree in
that and, and I've been working 

462
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,720
in the semiconductor field for 
about, it's about a little past 

463
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,360
three years. 
But when the calling came and it

464
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:15,880
got more serious and I really 
began devoting my time to, to my

465
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,160
own studies for, for the, for 
priesthood and pastoral studies,

466
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,080
my, my profession and my role in
the engineering field to me took

467
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,400
second, third, fourth priority. 
And you know, I still gave it my

468
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760
all in, in my work. 
And I had, you know, I can have,

469
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,720
I have my, my boss's, I guess, 
approvals for, for that. 

470
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,960
But I, I always really 
prioritized my pastoral studies.

471
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,520
So when the time came, and 
again, this is, you know, this 

472
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,920
is just, I think the nature of 
it with regards to the major 

473
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,720
thing is finance. 
That's the major thing that we 

474
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,240
look at because of the country 
we're living in, the needs, the 

475
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600
basic necessities. 
But thankfully, and thank, you 

476
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,040
know, thank our Archdeacon 
Uetikus and, and you know, the 

477
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,000
supporting committees and, and 
our parish and our diocese, you 

478
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200
know, and he told me that the 
basic necessities will be, you 

479
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,760
will be, you'll be OK, you'll 
have received and, you know, as 

480
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,320
soon as long as I was confident 
and knowing that that was OK, I 

481
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,560
didn't need anything more than 
that. 

482
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,520
And I'm lucky to have a wife 
again to that she has her 

483
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,320
profession, she's passionate 
about the architecture field 

484
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,720
that she's, that she's in and 
we're blessed in in that aspect.

485
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,440
So to me, I didn't need anything
more than my basic necessities 

486
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,160
to be covered. 
And after I was, you know, after

487
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,160
that was verified and I, I knew 
we were going to be OK, I fully 

488
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,480
trusted in, in God calling us to
this and God guiding us through 

489
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,760
this. 
So it wasn't something that I 

490
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080
was like questioning about, you 
know, how are we going to get 

491
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,240
through this? 
How are we going to make, you 

492
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,400
know, basic payments and think 
it wasn't, that was not, I don't

493
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,400
think that was a question that I
even brought up. 

494
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,360
I just I, I, we pursued it 
together full head on, you know,

495
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,120
and it was, it was something 
that today I'm, I'm very 

496
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,320
grateful that we've, that we're 
able to, to take that step and 

497
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,160
go forward in. 
That so you move the motion and 

498
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,880
says she's seconded, Yeah. 
Exactly. 

499
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Anyway, for those brothers and 
sisters of those sisters who are

500
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:28,160
dating or have been engaged to 
or are married to an acolyte 

501
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,160
being a Deacon, what would your 
advice be pre warning about 

502
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,800
something like this happening? 
How should they be preparing 

503
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,040
themselves for God's calling? 
Not everyone's going to be 

504
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720
called to this position, but God
will call. 

505
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Many are chosen or few are 
elected. 

506
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,120
What would your advice be for 
those who God will elect? 

507
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,320
In the most simplest way is 
trust in God, right? 

508
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320
He has a will for all of us and 
we have to trust that. 

509
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Going back to this Gears 
conference theme, thy will be 

510
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,440
done just trusting in God and 
not worrying, believing in him 

511
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280
and every single thing that he 
has to provide for all of us 

512
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,000
that he's, you know, going to 
give it to us in our lifetime. 

513
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,240
So it it's just as simple as 
that. 

514
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,520
If I sat here and worried about,
you know, how am I going to 

515
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,280
financially be stable? 
How am I going to do this? 

516
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520
A lot of questions got asked me 
about, oh, how are you going to 

517
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,800
live a normal life? 
Can you go on vacations? 

518
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Can you do this? 
Can you do that? 

519
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,360
If I sat here and worried about 
all of that, I'd panic. 

520
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,720
I wouldn't be able to do this 
right. 

521
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,280
So the advice to everyone is 
just to to trust in his will and

522
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:46,560
trust in God and go from that. 
Have a strong relationship. 

523
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,680
You know that relationship that 
you have together, that 

524
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,080
communication, that's, that's 
really it. 

525
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,440
Saint Paul commands parents that
they are. 

526
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360
What's the word? 
They are not entitled. 

527
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,720
What's that word? 
They are incumbent to place and 

528
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,280
to prepare for their children 
good deeds and what have you 

529
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,640
good examples. 
And I think this is what you're 

530
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,520
doing for your children. 
This will be a sacrifice or a 

531
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,280
commitment or an answer or reply
to calling from God where one 

532
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,920
day they will refer back to this
and say, well, our parents did 

533
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,280
this, so we must be doing this. 
And again, going back to your 

534
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,320
parents, they obvious obviously 
sacrifice in a different manner.

535
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,200
And the chain keeps going. 
It's growing and, and the, the, 

536
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,440
the effect and the fruits 
continue until the Lord returns.

537
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:45,080
You know, any plans, you know, 
future plans and what you have 

538
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,760
in mind as far as working 
together together for the 

539
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,280
church, because really this is a
unit where a husband and a wife 

540
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,320
are both engaged in working for 
the, for the Lord. 

541
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,840
And it's, it's a, it's amazing 
because the priest or the clergy

542
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,560
is not alone in decision making.
What do you have planned? 

543
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Do you have any plans as as far 
as what you want to do in your 

544
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,560
parish And for the youth, 
obviously. 

545
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Yeah. 
I think one of the blessings in 

546
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
disguise that we're that we're 
looking at here Robbie, is that 

547
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,800
I wasn't assigned a specific 
parish, whereas I was more of 

548
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,560
assistant and then the youth 
overseeing the youth group in 

549
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Arizona. 
And then also I've been sort of 

550
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000
given some responsibility across
the diocese. 

551
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,280
So working with them at a local 
level at our parish, at, in, in 

552
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Gilbert, at Mario Sapkanen issue
and, and also more recently 

553
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600
working closely with the Saint 
Peter's youth group in Glendale.

554
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,280
I see the fire. 
I see the zeal that, that, that,

555
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,080
that, that they have. 
And it's encouraging to me that 

556
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,800
I, I look at, OK, I took this 
on, I took on this 

557
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520
responsibility through God's 
guidance and, and Providence. 

558
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720
And I have his guidance and I 
have his strength. 

559
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,440
And then I see the, the, the 
youth members that I'm going to 

560
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880
be working with and it's 
something very, very 

561
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,600
encouraging. 
So I've talked with some, with 

562
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,280
some committee members, some 
just, you know, youth members 

563
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,880
of, of both parishes, some 
across the diocese as well. 

564
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaking with Nina, she has 
she's full of ideas and and you 

565
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,440
know that are are. 
Close. 

566
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600
That's where you get it from I. 
Let's tell the truth. 

567
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,720
So I, I, I look, I, I really 
look forward to working with 

568
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,800
them, some of the projects or I 
guess activities that we want to

569
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,880
do mainly in Arizona, because 
that's our, that's where, that's

570
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,400
where we live. 
And that's, you know, where I'll

571
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,520
be spending most of my time is I
really want to unify, build a, 

572
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,400
build a stronger bridge between 
the two parishes, the two the 

573
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,800
two youth groups, because this 
year alone, they brought near 

574
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240
nearly 100 youth members just 
from Arizona. 

575
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,920
And looking at the future, 
looking at our children's 

576
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840
ministries are both parishes. 
And that that bridge that the 

577
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,160
children's ministries is going 
to funnel into the youth group. 

578
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,520
And then the youth members that 
you have between that age of 

579
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,560
like 18 to 21 and, and they're 
so they're so passionate about 

580
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,000
their youth, are so passionate 
about their church and serving. 

581
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,800
It's almost going to make my job
so very easy. 

582
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040
And I don't want to call it a 
job, but my responsibility is 

583
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,840
going to be very easy because I 
have people around me that are 

584
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400
willing to work. 
And now that they see one of 

585
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,880
their own youth members, I think
receiving these ranks, it's, 

586
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200
it's encouraging them to come 
and, you know, want to serve and

587
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,040
want to help me out so that we 
can both serve together. 

588
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
It's not like I'm their, you 
know, their boss or their 

589
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080
leader. 
I'm I'm leading them and we're 

590
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,800
all working together to serve, 
to serve the church and, and all

591
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,800
for his glory. 
For those who are not familiar 

592
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,800
with the demographics, driving 
distance from Gilbert to 

593
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Glendale. 
Glendale and. 

594
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Surprise. 
Surprise. 

595
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,920
What are we looking at? 
So looking at Mariosa Parish, 

596
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,280
which is in Gilbert all the way 
to Saint Peter's Parish in 

597
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,040
Glendale, it's about 50 minutes 
and then surprise, about another

598
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,000
20 minutes from their city from 
Glendale to surprise. 

599
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,400
OK, so. 
OK. 

600
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,920
You know, as you were speaking 
lobby that you want to unify a 

601
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,360
little bit about the Central 
Valley parishes, Modesto, Ceres,

602
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,960
CA. 
We have what we call a Central 

603
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,760
Valley youth group. 
Joey Hermes, who's one of the 

604
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,679
members of the NEC national 
National Youth Executive. 

605
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:25,040
We've got to call NYC National 
Youth Executive Committee and 

606
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Kristen, our sister as well. 
We have the Central Valley youth

607
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
group where the three parishes 
come together. 

608
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,800
They have a a monthly worship 
night. 

609
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,360
They arrange a lot of activities
and events. 

610
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,679
And for example, when the 
conference is being hosted by 

611
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,480
the Central Valley parishes, 
they all come together. 

612
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,199
It's, it's a great unity. 
It's. 

613
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,280
Yeah, there are issues. 
There's always issues because, 

614
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,160
you know, yeah. 
But I what we've seen, and I 

615
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,680
think my sister Kristen or, or 
Joey Orgizzo can vouch for this,

616
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,200
that the unity that becomes very
tight and they're bound together

617
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,080
and it then makes it easier to 
work together. 

618
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,040
And obviously we're not, I mean,
I think from Turlock to Modesto,

619
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,280
25 minutes, but I think that's a
great idea. 

620
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,920
And I'll be because you have 
numbers, you have more power and

621
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,480
you work together and and then 
it doesn't become the burden is 

622
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,080
not upon one parish. 
And so I'll vouch for that. 

623
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,360
Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely need
your need your help. 

624
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,760
No, no, I was just telling you 
what it's no. 

625
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,200
No, no, no. 
You mentioned it. 

626
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,160
I have to get the help. 
It's. 

627
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:38,000
On the list of things to do for.
Yeah, always there for you. 

628
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,880
Always. 
We are one church. 

629
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,880
We are one body wherever we may 
be, we are one body. 

630
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,600
We are one church and we are 
that great, amazing and I love 

631
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,520
saying that that great amazing 
Assyrian Church of the East, 

632
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,920
rich history. 
Let's go too much into that and 

633
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,720
we're not Tooting any horns, but
we're just stating the facts and

634
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,240
the truth and something amazing 
that I'll be you've seen this 

635
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:06,640
when the youth from the 13 year 
olds to the 25 year olds when 

636
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,560
they learn something different 
about their church and what this

637
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,520
church has given for 
Christianity. 

638
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,760
I mean, it's a blessing again, 
they that's when they are more 

639
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,240
prone to be drawn to serve 
within the diaconate or the 

640
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,120
priesthood. 
And I said, when was it? 

641
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,240
I was talking to one of my 
brother priests and during the 

642
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:32,640
sessions, my session, some of 
the answers that were being 

643
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,720
given and and to in my heart in 
my mind, I was saying to myself,

644
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:44,240
you know this church has future 
and 680 if not even 80 if twenty

645
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,720
of those young men decide to 
take on the orders of the 

646
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,240
church, that is a great blessing
from the Lord. 

647
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:55,360
That's a great success story to 
tell Last comments, closing 

648
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,640
comments that have you the mic's
mic is yours and. 

649
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960
OK, the one thing I do want to 
mention, Robbie, I think one of 

650
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,920
the things that's very important
for I think our youth and all of

651
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,400
our audience and every listener 
to, to know is that one thing 

652
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,720
that we also looked at and I, I 
think Nunua wanted to mention 

653
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,560
this or was, was thinking about 
this too. 

654
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,080
Something that we discussed was 
with regards to this earthly, 

655
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,200
because everybody asks questions
that regard to temporal earthly 

656
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,480
passion and desires. 
And you know, one of the things 

657
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,040
Nunua mentioned was like 
vacations and all these things. 

658
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,680
And I, you know, nobody, I think
you'd be out of your mind to not

659
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,760
enjoy a vacation. 
But you know, those things are 

660
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,920
temporal and those things are 
earthly and those things. 

661
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,960
But when, when we're taking on 
not even just the priesthood, 

662
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,800
just any rank, anytime we're 
serving in the church and then 

663
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,560
we're serving Christ and his 
faithful, it's something that 

664
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,680
we're looking to do. 
And, and you mentioned this 

665
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,640
today on the car ride back home 
was, was gaining souls. 

666
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,560
The, the, the young men and 
women that we're serving, you're

667
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,560
doing something that's going to 
be lasting in eternity when 

668
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,240
we're working and we're making 
an impact on, on their souls 

669
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,560
and, and the way they view 
Christ and the way they view 

670
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,360
their own spiritual lives and 
the way they view, you know, how

671
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,920
to take when to make a right 
decision on following a good 

672
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,480
path versus a bad path in their 
lives and. 

673
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Discerning God's voice. 
Exactly, And and so that that, 

674
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560
you know, is, is a greater 
calling and is a greater 

675
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
purpose. 
And for sure, as you know, as 

676
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,040
we're living in these countries 
and, and we're living in the 

677
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,600
West and we know what, what, 
what is to come. 

678
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,360
And, you know, we, we, we are 
blessed to have the 

679
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,280
opportunities to to go out and 
to, you know, enjoy the world, 

680
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,480
enjoy our time. 
But I think time best spent is 

681
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,040
serving our Lord and, and one of
the main things that we see in 

682
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560
this, this passion that, you 
know, he's given us and, and 

683
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,880
we're grateful for it and we 
want to reciprocate that to 

684
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,960
everybody that we can is, is the
ability to, to serve, the 

685
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,920
ability to draw people closer by
the way we live our lives. 

686
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640
And, and we need to be a beacon 
of, you know, if I'm speaking 

687
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,040
something, if I'm teaching 
something, I ought to be living 

688
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,000
it myself. 
And so that's one of the 

689
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,960
beautiful things about this, 
this calling. 

690
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,720
And I'm, you know, a one 
weekend, but I'm, I feel 

691
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,160
especially I'm very blessed that
it was, it happened. 

692
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,040
My ordination was just 2-3 days 
before the youth conference. 

693
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,360
I think coming here in the 
priesthood was, was definitely a

694
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,480
blessing, was definitely a 
humbling experience. 

695
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,760
And, and seeing all of the youth
sort of gravitate towards the, 

696
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,640
the, the priesthood, I feel like
that that makes my impact on 

697
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120
them so much more greater. 
And I'm blessed to, to have that

698
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,840
opportunity. 
Amen. 

699
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Thank you, Robbie. 
Thank you, dearest. 

700
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:44,280
Final statements I, I hope that 
a lot of our ACOE youth members 

701
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,560
and you know, just in general, 
everyone in the ACOE can kind of

702
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,600
take a look at the two of us. 
And I pray that we can be the 

703
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,080
role models that I've been 
hearing people say that we are. 

704
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,880
But I pray that we continue on 
that path. 

705
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,520
And, you know, I want them to 
know that we are there for them 

706
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,760
and in this new generation, 
being in the, you know, 27 and 

707
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,320
28, almost 29, and serving in 
the church in the way that we 

708
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,440
are right now. 
It's for us, it's very humbling 

709
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,120
and I hope that our brothers and
sisters can also look at that 

710
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,520
and you know, anytime they have 
questions or need us, both of 

711
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:26,880
us, they can come to us in in 
any ways and you know, kind of 

712
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,000
carry that, carry that cross as 
well. 

713
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:33,720
I mean, I mean that they may see
your good deeds and glorious 

714
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,040
glorify your Father in heaven. 
You know, I always say it, I'll 

715
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,240
be that if Christ hadn't come 
down on earth and had died for 

716
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:46,080
you and I and the entire world, 
we would not be sitting here and

717
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,360
we would not have these 
blessings. 

718
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:51,720
It is only but from yes, the 
church or the East knows grace. 

719
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:53,640
We know grace. 
We have two words for it. 

720
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,520
I always say shove up at the 
plate with we know grace. 

721
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,040
It's by the grace of God. 
But then again, Christ is 

722
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,600
commanded that they know our 
good deeds and that they may 

723
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,320
through the deeds, glorify our 
home, not just the faith. 

724
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,480
You know Christ didn't say so 
that they can see how strong 

725
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,360
your faith is and how many 
verses you can quote. 

726
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,040
No, no, He said so that they may
know, see your good deeds and 

727
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,440
they may glorify your God in 
heaven. 

728
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,360
And we always keep in mind that 
we are those unworthy servants, 

729
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,800
those rusty tools in the shed 
where God takes out in His 

730
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,080
amazing, glorious, powerful, 
almighty sovereign hands. 

731
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:43,520
And he, he uses those rusty 
tools to gravitate people around

732
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,920
us, to see your priesthood, to, 
to come to you and to grow and 

733
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,360
be encouraged to draw even 
closer to God. 

734
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,720
And for my sister Nimba to be an
example for those sisters who 

735
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,720
are, as I said, engaged in a 
relationship with a with a 

736
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,520
someone who's an acolyte who has
a lot of other orders. 

737
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,600
At the end of the day, Rabi, you
said it and we we're beginning a

738
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,640
liturgical with this is that the
church and those who serve are 

739
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,080
there to glorify God, first and 
foremost, to glorify God and to 

740
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,280
save souls. 
And that is done through God's 

741
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,280
mysterious ways and power and 
grace and and mercy. 

742
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Praise me to his name. 
Thank you so much for 

743
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880
reluctantly. 
No, no, no, I know I know you. 

744
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,760
You're very happy to be to be a 
part of the podcast. 

745
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,320
There's such a plug, plug the 
double double edged sword 

746
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,520
podcast ministry. 
It's too late. 

747
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,000
It's late, but that's OK. 
The double edged sword No 

748
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,880
honestly, Robbie, thank you 
again for the opportunity. 

749
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Double edged sword from I have 
heard personal testimonials of 

750
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,800
some of our own youth members in
Arizona of how, how you've 

751
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,920
impacted them to for some, for 
some of our youth members in 

752
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,720
Arizona, those that may have not
been as close to Christ, not as 

753
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,920
close to the church. 
But after hearing your podcast, 

754
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,280
some of them are now currently 
working in our children's 

755
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,080
ministries and, and actively 
zealous in the youth and, and, 

756
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,680
and working and serving. 
And, and so you've, you know, 

757
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,920
through the podcast and it's 
just glory to God for, for the, 

758
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,080
for the use of technology for 
good. 

759
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,120
That's, that's what you've been 
doing you and your team in 

760
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,800
California and, and, and God 
bless you guys always. 

761
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,840
Kudos to the the producers, but 
it's not my podcast, it's not 

762
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Stevens or Adrina's, it's no 
one's podcast. 

763
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,400
It's only again a tool and a 
mean by through life through 

764
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,040
which God is using to draw 
people to His. 

765
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,760
Glory. 
Glory to God, I just ask that 

766
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,600
you keep the podcast and all 
those out there who are 

767
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,120
preaching the the truth of the 
Gospels and Jesus Christ that 

768
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,120
the Lord will increase and with 
the Lord will will raise 

769
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,280
laborers in the vineyard so that
we can work for this amazing 

770
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,400
ministry which is preaching the 
gospel of Christ. 

771
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,960
Robbie, will you bless us with a
closing prayer and, and thank 

772
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,480
you so much to both of you, 
Robbie, Robbie, Asha Robbie and 

773
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Missus Andrew Aziz. 
I think that would be the right 

774
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560
title. 
Reverend Father and Missus 

775
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,520
Andrew Aziz, God bless you all. 
Thank you so much and we'll look

776
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520
forward to speaking to you more 
on the podcast. 

777
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,680
Please close with the prayer for
us. 

778
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,640
In the name of the Father, Son 
and Holy Spirit. 

779
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Amen. 
Dear Lord, we thank you for this

780
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,520
opportunity to join with our 
Reverend Father Gennard, my wife

781
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,440
Nene, the blessed producers, 
thank you for always giving us 

782
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,200
the opportunities and the grace 
and the blessings from your 

783
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,080
heavenly hand. 
May the glorious Trinity always 

784
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,600
bless and strengthen and guide 
our youth and our church in the 

785
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,240
future. 
You are everlasting and strong, 

786
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,960
and may you always bless and 
protect and guide this Church. 

787
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,120
You are our guide, and by you we
are strengthened by the name of 

788
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,880
your glorious Trinity, Father, 
Son and Holy Spirit, I. 

789
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Mean thank you, thank you for 
your for listening. 

790
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,080
And we'll be back with a new 
episode Monday. 

791
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000
God willing, God bless you. 
Thank you, Robbie, thank you. 

792
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:44,960
Push him back to work now. 
The We hope you enjoyed this 

793
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,520
week's message. 
Please don't forget to rate and 

794
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,280
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795
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,960
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796
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,560
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797
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,240
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00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,440
Until next time, God bless you 
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