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In the name of the Father of the
Son and the Holy Spirit, I mean 

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beloved priests, deacons, sub 
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faithful that are gathered here 
at this 38th annual Youth 

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Conference. 
Thank you for the invite. 

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It's a pleasure to be here with 
you all. 

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You get to know you all exchange
stories and just see obviously 

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our brothers and sisters in 
Christ over here in the United 

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States for thank you. 
A few months ago, Robbie Gennard

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reached out and asked if I'd be 
willing to give my testimony and

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it was a very emphatic yes. 
For me, it always is. 

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And if ever I'm asked to give my
testimony or share my journey 

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with people, whether it's 110, 
the church or with the school 

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back in Sydney, Australia, I 
always oblige and say yes. 

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And the reason for that is 
because as you can see, I don't 

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call it a testimony about 
myself. 

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Steve Moltata. 
I actually got a testimony about

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God's purse, will and time 
because I worked through this 

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story, this journey about my 
life. 

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You'll see how God moves and how
he plants seeds and how He wore 

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things. 
I, like you, want to reflect as 

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I speak tonight about your 
journeys of Christ, your walk 

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with God, your families, church,
and how you are growing up here 

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in the United States of America.
So that is my home. 

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Saint Peter and Paul Parish in 
Sydney, Australia is the place 

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in which I fell in love with the
Church of the East and that is 

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me on the left hand side at my 
ordination last year, September,

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into the rank of Sub Beacon 
Hupajapa. 

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I'll call it the second greatest
day of my life. 

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The first thing my baptism and 
my wife and children come are 

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that the God comes first. 
But I'm sure she might be 

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impressed with that. 
But OK. 

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So my name is Stephen Khalil 
Murkova and for those of you who

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speak Arabic, Murtada is not an 
Assyrian name because I'm not 

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Assyrian. 
I was actually born into a 

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Muslim family, so my mom and dad
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I was raised as a Muslim 
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My parents come from a Shia and 
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So you follow your father's 
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OK, so my journey though begins 
in 1969. 

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So for those of you who are good
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I'm not 60 years of age. 
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out to Australia as a 19 year 
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So for you in your youth now, 
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mindset, you want to explore, 
you want to Kyle Finns. 

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And as I talk tonight, I want 
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going to mention a few things 
that as Christians we shouldn't 

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be doing, but I want to mention 
them so you understand that we 

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are presented with lights and 
death. 

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We have to achieve life, not a 
road that leads to destruction. 

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So my father came out when he 
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adventure, left his salmon pine 
and he fell in love with a 

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woman, an Australian woman. 
And he obviously with his life 

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doing his things as an 
adolescent man. 

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Obviously we know that that is 
not right because, you know, she

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become one flesh and they leave 
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house. 
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So he realized after a few years
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it. 
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that all Australian women don't 
have a good moral. 

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And after that he actually went 
back to Lebanon and married my 

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mom, which is his first cousin, 
which is very customer. 

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And he brought my mom back to 
Australia and they were chalk 

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and cheese because my dad had 
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way of living. 
So he went back and married my 

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mother, drove her back out to 
Australia and my father 

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assimilated into the country. 
My mother did lot. 

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She had that typical Muslim 
mentality, which was that it was

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her nationality of being 
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But the hypocrisy was that they 
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I'd actually never set foot into
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In 1980, I came along and as you
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average lifestyle. 
My mom and dad love me very 

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much. 
Photos and mindful birthdays are

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all the same. 
Just as you explore and and and 

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celebrate. 
I had my cousins that were out 

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here with me, and I've got to 
tell you that Christ was 

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actually in my life from the 
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From a young age, I used to 
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I had a Christmas tree in my 
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Christmas with Christ in the 
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It was just gift giving. 
Merry Christmas. 

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My friends were all Christian. 
My mom used to get angry because

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she'd save you. 
Why don't you have Muslim 

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friends? 
Why don't you have Lebanese 

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friends? 
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Predominantly. 
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Vietnamese and my mum said to me
when you grow up you'll marry a 

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Lebanese Muslim woman, which I 
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I used to tell her that I'm 
going to marry an Australian and

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it used to really grate her. 
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was amazing. 
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of the things you do with your 
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That was my dad because I'm the 
only Charles I say wahid in in 

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Arabic. 
OK, so my dad was my brother and

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everything that I did with him 
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Sports Archive. 
I could confess in my father and

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talk to him because he 
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culture. 
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loved me and I love her very 
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You know, we butted heads a lot.
I never went to a mosque that 

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prayers that I learned were in 
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The sedpa, right? 
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like a standard pray that you 
recite. 

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I never did the Ricard. 
I never prayed as Muslim pay. 

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In fact, how I used to pray was 
I'd say the Befetta and I used 

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to conversate with the Lord. 
I say Lord forgive my parents, 

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Lord forgive me. 
Well, bring my dad back from 

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work safely. 
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started to put God to the side, 
which is synonymous with 

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Christians as well, but starts 
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us. 
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does God really exist? 
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Why is there murder? 
Why is there all the error and 

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mistakes in the world? 
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teenage, you started to delve 
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And when I became a young an 
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age of 18, when you can legally 
drink and go out and party, it's

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exactly what I did. 
I rebel, but in the secular 

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world, it's celebrating, right? 
Because it's cool to go out and 

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get drunk or do drunks and 
party. 

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That's what I've been. 2001 
comes along and just to give you

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an insight into how I grew up, 
when the World Trade Centers got

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attacked here in America, I woke
up that morning to see my mom 

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yelling at the TV along the 
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cursing them, cursing the hue. 
So I grew up hating Israel. 

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I grew up hating the 
hallucination because you know, 

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as a young child you are a 
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Lebanon is bordering Israel. 
So I had this hatred for him and

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I actually I celebrated and 
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that was my mind. 
So something else that happened 

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in 2001 is I met my wife Nick at
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And guess what? 
He's also a pre she. 

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So most people intend for like, 
give his testimony. 

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So that's why you convert it. 
Definitely not. 

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When I told my mom and dad that 
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Australian and she was a 
Christian, my dad's thoughts 

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were, well, he's having a bit of
fun, it would be OK. 

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My mom was like, well, what's 
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your own stuff? 
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fair. 
I was really close to my dad 

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growing up and I was right. 
She was starting to fracture. 

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When I brought her home and 
introduced her, things started 

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to go South and I decided to 
make a decision that if you 

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aren't going to accept my wife, 
I want nothing to do with you. 

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My pride, I was filled with 
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So that's just stopped off from 
my parents for 13 years. 

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I said if you don't accept her, 
then I will not interview with 

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you. 
So red flag #2 I moved out with 

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my mom. 
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Christians, even in Islam, we're
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But I did that. 
So I moved out, living life, 

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everything was grand. 
And then in 2006 I was to get 

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married. 
And my wife is an Anglican 

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Christian and I rang my dad. 
I've been writing letters to my 

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dad for several years since I 
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Trying to reconcile how to make 
peace never worked because it 

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always flash. 
I rang my dad and said look, I'm

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getting married. 
And his first words were where? 

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And I said in the church because
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And his words were why of why 
are you giving up your faith to 

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be, you know, submitting to her 
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Where's the his hypothesis 
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Because you don't even practice 
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Why does it matter? 
And his words were to me, I'll 

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translate it. 
But when you break a cup, you 

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can never piece it back 
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And that crushed me because my 
father was essentially saying to

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you, what if he'd throw my wife 
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So I hung up and I was 
essentially I made, I drew the 

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line in the sand and said, well,
I want nothing to do with you. 

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And he refused. 
They refused to come to the 

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wedding. 
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tend to ask was how did you get 
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Muslim slash atheist slash 
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So I met with the pastor of the 
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church, and he asked me the 
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He said, what do you believe in?
I said, look, I believe in 

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something bigger than us because
remember, it's atheism slash 

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agnosticism. 
I wasn't decided what do you 

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believe? 
And I said, look, I believe 

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there's something bigger than 
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So do you believe in Jesus? 
I said no in fatique, right, 

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because I wasn't a Christian. 
He said, OK, do you believe in 

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design or evolution? 
I said definitely not evolution.

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I said, OK, well I can work 
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We know in our church, in the 
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wouldn't fly, would it? 
Is how can a man who doesn't 

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believe or a woman marry a 
Christian partner in the church 

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because they're unequally out. 
It doesn't work, but he was 

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willing to do it. 
And I got married in the church 

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and everything was great. 
Years went by. 

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Not everything was rosy because 
look, my, my, my, my Martin. 

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Sorry. 
My wife and I would argue 

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whenever Christianity came into 
a picture if she mentioned 

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Christ or God, I used to say to 
her if I don't want to hear it 

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because if the Devons tremble at
the name of Jesus and she was 

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mentioning that to me, it raged 
me. 

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But I'd storm out of a room. 
I didn't want to hear it and 

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then I'm going to be OK. 
So now Fast forward to 2004 and 

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three huge things happened in my
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The first was my wife said to 
me, we haven't filed. 

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The second, my dad rang me and 
said we're moving back to 

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Lebanon, but OK, how, why? 
And he basically said to me, my 

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uncle, his brother said you have
nothing left in Australia for 

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your son doesn't speak to you, 
come back and die in the country

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you were born. 
So my dad took the opportunity 

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and said, all right, so I 
actually went and saw them the 

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night before they left walk 
through the house thinking I'll 

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never see them again in 13 years
of not talking to each other. 

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So I hugged my dad and I hugged 
my mom and essentially said 

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goodbye. 
The third big thing that 

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happened was, and this is 
timeless of the world, top 

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soccer club by the name of the 
Western Sydney Wanderers was 

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formed in Australia. 
For those of you who enter your 

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football. 
If how on earth does this have 

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anything to do with God, the 
church and the Church of the 

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east? 
Well, as I said, remember how 

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it's on his perfect will and 
assignment of things happen. 

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So this club is born, it's 
partying with atmospheric 

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football, it's active support 
and flares and united. 

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And that's what my life became. 
Because when you have a void in 

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your life, you don't have God in
your life, you live in the 

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flesh. 
That's what I was doing. 

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So this club's born. 
My parents have moved overseas, 

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my daughter's born, and the next
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And I meet these people, I don't
know if you've heard of them. 

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They're called the Siri. 
A lot of Assyrian supporters in 

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the western city, Wanderels. 
And I got to know about the 

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whole show. 
I got to know about your church,

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although I has to say I didn't 
really scare, but I got to know 

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the people. 
And I met a gentleman who became

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my godfather by the month, 
David, and things were great. 

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Now at about 2013 fourteen, 
Daesh, ISIS, ISIL was wreaking 

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havoc in the Middle East and I 
had grown to detest Islam 

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throughout my life because of 
what happened with my fan, the 

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hypocrisy, you know, the double 
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So seeing on the news and 
reading and now having this new 

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friendship group, the whole heap
of Assyrians like it hit home 

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but not in a God like manner. 
Just you feel moved and 

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compassion towards your friend. 
And one night I was reading the 

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newspaper and I was reading 
about what was going on, the 

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killing years, you know houses 
being signed with the noon and 

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out of like nowhere the thought 
that I never thought went into 

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my head did. 
And that is why he's so much 

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turmoil, murder, wars, 
corruption in the world. 

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And I was always a person who 
wanted truth, like, curious. 

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So I'm thinking truth. 
I'm not thinking cost. 

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But the next thought that came 
into my mind was, you know, 

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things from the Islamic 
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Mind you, I've never had the put
on. 

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I don't read Arabic. 
But going up in it, you 

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understand, Why don't you open 
the Bible and look for some 

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truth in there, which I never 
thought would ever happen 

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because if you mentioned Christ 
or Bible or Zod or anything, I 

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said I would run. 
So I funded the thought for a 

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little bit. 
I told my wife and she was 

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ecstatic because she's thinking 
he's going to become a fish. 

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Slow down. 
It's not about you. 

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It's about what I was I'm 
seeking through. 

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So I ring my friend and I said 
to him, Fab, I want to see you. 

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I went over to his house. 
He's laying on his bed and I 

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said I want to read the Bible. 
And he literally sat up and the 

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first thing he said was why, 
followed by praise Zoe. 

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And he looked at me and he said 
this is from Donald. 

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If he knew, I didn't know. 
So I told him why and I said 

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where do I start? 
And he said you need to start at

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Matthew, skip the genealogy and 
continue reading. 

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I thought, that's a bit strange.
Why would you mention that to 

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someone wanting to read, right? 
And he tried to get me a Bible. 

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I said no, I want to do it on my
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I'm 110% or nothing. 
So I went to a bookstore. 

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I bought a new King James Bible 
and began reading. 

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And when my wife and child would
go to bed, I start reading at 

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night and I opened to Matthew. 
I look at the genealogy and it's

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bigot, bigot, bigot, bigot, 
bigot. 

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I flipped it because I 
understood why he said that and 

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continued reading. 
But I read slowly because 

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remember, I'm I'm wanting truth.
I'm wanting for some something 

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to jump out and grab. 
It wasn't about Christ. 

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And as I'm reading as the next 
three days, I'm reading and 

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taking it in. 
And don't don't forget growing 

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up I celebrated Christmas in 
gift giving. 

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I said put into a church at the 
age of 9 before I'd said put 

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into a mosque. 
I knew the prophets. 

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There's the prophets I mentioned
in the Quran in Islam, but 

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they're just, they're skewed 
right. 

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As I'm reading, I get to about 
Matthew chapter 10 verse 343536.

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And as I'm reading it says do 
not think that I came to bring 

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peace on earth. 
I've not come to bring peace, 

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but a sword, for I've come to 
set a man against his father, a 

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daughter against her mother, and
a daughter-in-law against her 

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mother-in-law. 
And a man's enemies will be 

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those of his own household. 
So when I read that, the first 

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thing I thought of, well, if 
this is Jesus, why is he 

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bringing a sword? 
As in Islam, you comfort by the 

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sword, convert or be killed. 
But I didn't look at it like 

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that. 
I look at it as a sword pieces 

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I'm teaching, seek, seeking 
truth, and the sword cuts to the

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very core and 35 through to 36. 
Well, that's what was happening 

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in my household because my wife 
was a Christian and when I 

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brought her into my life, her 
faith divided my household. 

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It crumbles everything that I 
have news and I read that three 

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or four times and the first 
thing I said when I read that 

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was Lord Sagivable, which took a
lot of party for because I 

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wasn't seeking him, I was 
seeking truth. 

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That's and I said, Lord, forgive
me forever being arrogant and 

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cursing me. 
It's a blackboard where to curse

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God would do this. 
Why would you do this? 

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So would you do that? 
And I'm alone. 

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My wife and Charles are asleep. 
And I knelt, I prostrated and I 

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prayed and I prayed with Christ 
on my mind because I knew that 

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was truth. 
And that was written 2000 years 

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ago, but it's aligning with my 
life. 

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How's that possible? 
So in an instant, it wasn't a 

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picture, it wasn't anything 
fancy. 

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It was a quiet moment. 
It was a quiet moment that I 

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felt convicted and understood 
and I'm all or nothing. 

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Remember that? 
So when I woke, when my wife 

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woke up and I told her, she was 
ecstatic and we're both crying 

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wimpy. 
And my search straightaway began

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to look for a church over the 
next couple of days because I 

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wanted a church now being all 
nothing. 

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I knew what the Protestant 
movement was, evangelical 

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churches were. 
And I started researching 

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Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and 
everyone kept coming up 

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Orthodoxy. 
I found a church, the Ansiokun 

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Lebanese Church, as his Orthodox
Eastern Orthodoxy. 

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Ring, my friend, tell him you're
coming to joke with me on 

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Sunday. 
He without doubt came on the way

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to this Eastern Orthodox Church.
He's telling me about the 

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parable of the prodigal son and 
how it's sort of, you know. 

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Look at what's happened with 
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You're returning to the Lord. 
You walk into this church and 

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the sermon that day and remember
our calendars don't wanna, but 

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the lectionary readings aren't 
the same and the sermon was 

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about the particles are so my 
friend looked at me like in 

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complete awe right now. 
To me it was just like a hand. 

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I just want to listen to the 
sermon. 

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Relax, right. 
So afterwards you spoke to the 

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priests of a winner. 
He introduced me. 

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He said this is my friend. 
He's a Muslim, wants to convert.

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Had a conversation with him and 
he was very, very nice man, 

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don't get me wrong, but very 
methodical, meticulous, and I'll

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say sterile in that it was you 
have to become a CAD If you you 

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must come to Bible studies. 
I said, I'm there. 

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I'll be back next week. 
We jump in the car, we drive 

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away and my friend says to me 
next week I want you to come to 

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the Church of the East. 
I'm like, never heard it really 

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like it known the name for, for 
the Syrian people, but don't 

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know much about it. 
Question for me is, is it 

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Orthodox? 
Is it? 

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Of course it is. 
Listen, I'm there, go home, 

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start researching heresy, Mother
of Christ, all this stuff's 

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coming up. 
I'm what's this? 

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I'm trying to find the true 
church, right? 

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So I ring him and tell him and 
he says, tells me all about it. 

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And I said, OK, I'll, I'll come 
Friday. 

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I ring him and say I, I don't 
think I'm going to come. 

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I I sort of changed my man back 
and forth and I knew he was a 

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bit upset about it, but in the 
end I said I'll come, why not? 

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What do I want to lose? 
So on that Sunday we walk into 

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Saint Peter Room for parish and 
we sit up at that back right 

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hand corner and he says to me, 
this is what's going to happen. 

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The Purdens are going to open 
the priest in the name of the 

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Father Son the Holy Stuart 
Bishamasha. 

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Yeah. 
And Piruma Bismar giving a 

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priest. 
I'm like try and caper in since 

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that current opened, our priest 
was Madhavan Yaman. 

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At the time it was Ravi Nilos. 
And since the current opened and

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he said in the name of the 
Father, the Son and the Holy 

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Spirit, and I saw the shamash 
standing there, I knew that was 

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home straight away. 
Because the liturgy, the 

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reverence from the people 
sitting there, what you, the 

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reverence you show for your 
church and God. 

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And the other thing is, do 
Muslims have icons and 

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portraits? 
No, I'm simply in that church 

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with my focus fixated on the 
frost on the wall. 

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So for me, this church fit in 
perfectly because my ascension 

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was sipped out on the divine 
worship. 

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Not to say that the icons are a 
bad or anything like that. 

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So iPhone, that's all that, 
that's fine. 

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But it really hit home for me 
afterwards will go into 

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fellowship. 
I meet Rabi Marvin Yaman and he 

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come up to me and he shook my 
hand with three kisses as we do 

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in the Middle East. 
And he said, Steve, it's so nice

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to meet you. 
And it was so warm and genuine. 

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Whereas in the Orthodox Church 
it was very much thought. 

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He said, I want to see you and 
we start to be catalyzed next 

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Wednesday. 
Bible studied every week. 

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One hour spent like mad. 
And the questions I would ask 

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him as I'm sure some of you ask 
your priests about life, you 

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know, I'll think back, you know,
and kind of get embarrassed the 

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questions I asked, but that's 
what he was there for our 

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tattoos. 
Wrong, Robbie. 

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I said to him, I want to get the
tattoo of the youth here. 

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He said you want to get God's 
name on your chest. 

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Yeah, all right, but I have 
tattoo, but I covered them up 

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now. 
But I don't believe. 

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And when he explained to me why,
and it's I understood now. 

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I started dialoguing with my 
parents because Christ says you 

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must forgive your enemies. 
And my parents were my enemies. 

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And I started talking to my dad.
He's moved to Lebanon. 

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On WhatsApp, I tell him about my
journey. 

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My dad said to me, you do what 
you want, son. 

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I believe in the prophets. 
I believe in the Saints. 

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But Jesus is not the Son of God.
But you do what you want. 

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Come June 2015, I ring my dad. 
I'm having a chat with him and 

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he tells me my mother is quite 
sick. 

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And when I get off the phone, my
wife looked at me and she knew. 

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She said, you want to fly to 
Lebanon, don't you? 

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I said I do, that's because I 
need to go and make peace. 

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I need to go and forgive me I 
have to because that's what the 

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teaching is. 
So that night hook flights to 

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fly out of strata. 
Wednesday I meet up with Mahd 

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and I tell him. 
He says I want to anoint you and

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I want to pray on you because 
where you're going coming from 

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Islam as a Christian, you don't 
know. 

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So that's close. 
Friday morning 10:30 our 

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meeting. 
He anoints me, he preys on me. 

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I got him to seal my daughter as
well because she was bad guys in

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the Anglican Church. 
I had them. 

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I said Chola, I'll see you too. 
At 3:30 my dad rang and told me.

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My mum thought so I was going 
forgive and I think and I've 

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been and my wife thought that I 
would unravel but I didn't. 

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I said to her it's OK. 
She asked me the question, what 

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are you going to do if I asked 
if you're a Christian? 

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And my response to her back then
in 2015 was I won't deny the 

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Lord before man because he will 
deny me full of thought and she 

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freaked out. 
She thought, what are you 

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saying? 
And she's a Christian all her 

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life, but now she's hearing and 
living. 

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So I boarded the plane. 
I landed in Beirut and buried my

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mom all nights up. 
I hadn't seen my dad in three 

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years. 
It was bittersweet, Kevin and 

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the people around him, because 
he was in tears, holding to man 

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up. 
But where's the compassion? 

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So I buried hers. 
And I spent three days, about a 

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week with my dad. 
But he said to me, you want to 

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go and see mom? 
And I said, yeah, I walk into 

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the room where she was on the 
journey, deceased, and they have

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the ritual of washing the body. 
And I walked in and I took a 

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knee before her. 
And you know, we pray with our 

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arms open and so do Muslims. 
And they often say to you, why 

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does Jesus pray like this? 
He's coupled up from us the 

445
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,640
other way. 
So I knelt down and I was 

446
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,560
praying in the name of the 
Palestine hospital. 

447
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,560
And I read the Lord's Prayer in 
son of my mom's body. 

448
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:52,680
And I stood up, my eyes were 
closed and I I lifted my hand up

449
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840
to crush myself in front of all 
the women in that room. 

450
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,680
I didn't care but I knew the 
truth but I didn't know that my 

451
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,360
dad had walked in standing next 
to me and as I lifted my hand 

452
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,080
after he just grabbed me and 
said son let's go outside and 

453
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,160
let the women mourn a hidden. 
I wasn't across myself When I 

454
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040
told him about a week later he 
said thank God you didn't do 

455
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280
that because I would have. 
It's a hyperbole that would have

456
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,400
slaughtered up you and me Bo 
meaning it wouldn't have gone 

457
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,880
down too well. 
I spent a good week or so with 

458
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,160
my dad and I spoke to him and we
rekindled our friendship. 

459
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,120
And it was amazing. 
And I took the Bible for him and

460
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,320
I wrote a passage in the on the 
front cover and I gave him a 

461
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,720
icon of Saint Fistapa because my
dad grew up. 

462
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,120
When I was growing up, my dad 
used to wear a pendant of a man 

463
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,640
holding a cross around his neck.
And I asked him, why do you wear

464
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,400
that if we're Muslim? 
That doesn't make sense. 

465
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520
And he said he's a patron site 
of Safe Travels because he used 

466
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920
to travel a lot and someone gave
it to him that meant something 

467
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,600
for him. 
So he still wore it. 

468
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,600
So I saw him at the airport. 
I hugged him and I said, Dad, 

469
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,960
I've left you something in his 
drawer. 

470
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,680
And I came back to his soda. 
And when I landed, he texts me 

471
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,280
saying thank for the Bible, make
sure you read it. 

472
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,840
I came back. 
And just on that note, I took my

473
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,600
dad to my shadow bed, Saint 
Charbel's Monastery in Lebanon, 

474
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,920
because I wanted to visit it, 
right, being Lebanese and a huge

475
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,200
St. in the church. 
And I went into the room and I 

476
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520
prayed. 
And then I came out and I said 

477
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,680
to my dad, come in. 
And my dad came in and he sat 

478
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,320
there praying and he spent a 
good few minutes in there and 

479
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,280
just watching him. 
I had hope, thinking possibly, 

480
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,760
could it be? 
I don't know. 

481
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,120
And that's the last bottle I 
have written. 

482
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:55,000
When I came back, August 20, 
2015, I was baptized as Stephen 

483
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Mortada because that's the name 
my dad gave me when I was born. 

484
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,960
I was born Stephen Khalil 
Mortada. 

485
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,360
My mom wanted Khalil. 
My dad said no, he's a Westerner

486
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,640
growing up in a Western country,
so he's speaking with Stephen. 

487
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,440
I'm glad he did. 
So was that by Stephen Mortada? 

488
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,720
I couldn't fit into the font 
because it's an infant's font, 

489
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920
right? 
And when people look at that and

490
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120
they start questioning, I said, 
it's not the water, it's the 

491
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Apostolic succession and the 
laying on of the hand up here. 

492
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,520
What I couldn't do for nine 
months as a catechuman was 

493
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,000
partaking korbana, right? 
So you've seen it when someone 

494
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,680
stands up and you have to walk 
past me. 

495
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120
And I said to my friend Fab, I 
said, I pray that everyone sees 

496
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,480
me not moving and doesn't take 
for granted that they can come 

497
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,640
here and eat and drink because 
it hurt. 

498
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,480
It hurt that I couldn't Kamaki 
on that day. 

499
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720
I ate to the first Pilandra and 
wet. 

500
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880
I think you can see Marv smiling
very happily there. 

501
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Now in 2018 I got to serve on 
some Eddie and in 2018 my dad 

502
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000
rang me in January and he said 
I've got cancer. 

503
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360
I had bladder cancer. 
You've been smoking more than 

504
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,680
four, six months later, on a 
Friday afternoon, he rang me and

505
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760
I was having a chat with him and
he was breathing heavily. 

506
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,800
And I he said to me, son, look 
after your wife, your daughter. 

507
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,560
And if anything happens to me, 
never come back to this country 

508
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,080
with my uncles. 
And I've got husbands with 

509
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Canvola and how to get the ammo,
which is a movement in Lebanon. 

510
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
You can't trust these sick and 
to death. 

511
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,800
That's a promise I would beat. 
The next day I got a phone call 

512
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:58,240
from my uncle and saying. 
Now the privilege of being on 

513
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,200
the committee is that you have 
the keys to the church. 

514
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,560
And that's exactly where I went.
And I sat in front of the altar 

515
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,640
who wept, but I had hope there. 
You know, the same prayer that I

516
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,320
prayed to these days, that on 
his deathbed, in the same manner

517
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880
that I said, Lord, forgive me, 
he's. 

518
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040
And we don't know, the Lord said
I'll have mercy. 

519
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Honour who? 
I'll have mercy if I see him, if

520
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,640
I'm worthy to enter and I see 
him, praise God. 

521
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,880
If I don't, then through the 
Scriptures we know how you enter

522
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,280
the Kingdom. 
And if he made his bed, he lies 

523
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,960
enough. 
I'm comfortable with that 

524
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:49,880
because you know what? 
The treaty last year in 

525
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,440
September, the second greatest 
Depuvian. 

526
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,160
I've been asked by our priest if
I was interested in becoming a 

527
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,000
beacon, Mr. Marsha and I had to 
think about it. 

528
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,400
I've been doing Bible studies, 
taking Bible studies for the 

529
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,280
last five years, preaching all 
by the grace of God. 

530
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800
And as we're saying this 
morning, we don't boast in it, 

531
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,960
but we boast in the Lord. 
So when my priest asks, I said, 

532
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,200
let me think and pray and fast 
about it. 

533
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,960
And I said yes, because of the 
surgical life is different to 

534
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,280
teaching, right? 
God bless our priests and the 

535
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,480
Shamata and all those in the 
clergy. 

536
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
It can be tough, but it's a 
blessing of amazing. 

537
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,040
So I was lifted into the altar 
with my good friend the Shamasha

538
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,560
Robert. 
And people ask me what's it like

539
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120
coming from where you come from 
to stand in the altar? 

540
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,080
And I simply said in this, on 
the day of my baptism, just my 

541
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,120
ordination, just like every 
other liturgical service, every 

542
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,160
Raza, when the prayer of 
absolution Messiah is read out, 

543
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,160
I got to kneel in the altar for 
the first time. 

544
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,680
And as His Eminence Marmilius 
was reciting that Messiah, I 

545
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,920
kept thinking, God said to 
Moses, Take off will sandal. 

546
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,840
The ground you stand upon is 
hallow. 

547
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,680
It's holy. 
Yet what am I doing in here? 

548
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,520
This is sacred, It's 
consecrated, it's set apart. 

549
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,480
So I knew you. 
You have to say that you have to

550
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,520
change your life. 
You have to change the way you 

551
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,800
are. 
I owe everything that I have to 

552
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,280
God because I have my standing. 
And obviously I wasn't a 

553
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Christian when I met them, was 
my wife and my two children. 

554
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,880
My journey has brought my wife 
closer to her faith that my 

555
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,920
youngest was baptized in the 
Church of the East. 

556
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,160
My wife attends to Church of the
East. 

557
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Saint Paul talks about being 
transformed and a renewal of 

558
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,920
mine. 
It has to happen. 

559
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120
You can no longer walk the way 
you used to walk when you choose

560
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,720
to walk with Christ. 
I'll end with this. 

561
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,159
I always emphasize that you are 
blessed to be part of the Church

562
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,159
of the East. 
You're born into it. 

563
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,040
I wasn't. 
This isn't a biased opinion I 

564
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,280
could search. 
Don't take it for granted. 

565
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,280
Don't take Bourbana for granted.
Every Sunday you are blessed to 

566
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,239
eat and drink, to ask for 
forgiveness. 

567
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,320
You're blessed with the church 
that is so rich. 

568
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,719
We heard from Doctor Bling 
today. 

569
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,480
So cherish the church. 
Cherish your faith. 

570
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880
We make mistakes, but his hand 
is always extended to pick us 

571
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,639
up. 
God bless you all.

