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In the name of the glorious 
Trinity, Father and Son and Holy

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Spirit forever. 
Amen. 

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Glory be to the everlasting 
mercies which sent you to us, O 

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Christ, the Light of the world 
and the life of all. 

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Give us wisdom by your law and 
enlighten our impulses by your 

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knowledge. 
Sanctify our souls by your truth

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and grant that we may be 
obedient to your words and may 

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fulfill your commandments at 
every hour, O you. 

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Who enlightens the rational with
the knowledge of your greatness?

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Do enlight, O my Lord, our 
thoughts that we may meditate 

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upon your holy and divine 
scriptures at all times, O Lord 

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of all. 
Father and Son and Holy Spirit 

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forever. 
Amen. 

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What a blessing it has been for 
the past few episodes coming to 

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you from the 35th National Youth
Conference of the Asian Church 

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of the East, Northern America, I
had the pleasure of being with 

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the Ravi Kashiki Vargas Rashouk,
or Bishop, the president of the 

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NEC National Executive 
Committee, and my brother 

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Deacon. 
Andrew Aziz and I have another 

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special guest. 
No, but on better that guest 

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dear to the heart. 
But before I do that. 

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This episode is live at well, 
it's not live now, but it was 

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recorded live before the before 
an audience at the National 

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Youth Conference. 
So I'd like you all to say hello

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to the podcast land out there. 
Excellent, excellent. 

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Well, great to great to have you
guys and we love you enjoying 

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the conference. 
Perfect. 

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Perfect. 
And this is not scripted, by the

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way. 
I have with me Shamasha Deacon, 

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Peter as well. 
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episode. 
Second time, second. 

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And last, no, no second time. 
Shamasha Azizaro with Sheena. 

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Welcome and love to have you. 
I'd love to have you again with 

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us one more time. 
Thank you, Robbie. 

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I appreciate you having me on 
this podcast. 

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And again, a nice shout out to 
our live studio audience today. 

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Yeah, Give yourself a round of 
applause. 

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There you go. 
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Excellent. 
Look at those dimples. 

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I love the dimples. 
Well, here we are at the 31st 

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Youth at 35th Youth Conference. 
Shamasha not of the world. 

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Yes, that was our theme, John, 
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I think you come up with that 
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Yeah, I did. 
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put together this conference 
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We thought it was important to 
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Like we will be speaking about 
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are not of this world and as 
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way if we are taking up our 
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So this is a commitment we have 
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from 13 to 30, which is our 
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part of our lives that we have 
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personally and it make this 
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service church and to serve him.
I'm sure everyone has a special 

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moment, a special message that 
has touched their heart, their 

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minds, and maybe brought them to
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their role as Christians. 
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Christians we mean children of 
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Like those who have not seen 
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I and all those who have 
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Lord and save and baptize the 
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My well, you know, the whole 
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something His Grace Marpolis 
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which I'm not going to read the 
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speak about that little it was 
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verses 11, and he went on to, I 
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beg of you as wayfarers, you 
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Masha Harper, Refugees and his 
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Refugees and as foreigners, 
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way, depart from all these 
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war against the soul. 
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little bit more. 
I know there was, you know, time

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restraints and I I'm sure His 
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though but, you know, we had 
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I think we had sessions. 
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Saint Peter Marshall and Kerpa 
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here, Wayfarers or Sojourners or
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refugees. 
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refugee Shamasha. 
What do you what do you what 

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comes to your mind when you hear
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Masha Khatter, Sojourners, 
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and not being somewhere that you
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somewhere that you should call 
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sometimes persecuted. 
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Persecutions, yes. 
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using this word, he wants to 
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let's talk a little bit more 
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Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, 
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wars and the persecutions and 
and to date Christians are being

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persecuted. 
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In the liturgy of holy 
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which the martyrs shed their 
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of course. 
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persecutions, they're fleeing 
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Canada, Europe, America. 
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However, however, if we were 
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physically there is spiritual 
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bishops touched up on that. 
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and we come to these in the 
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reached our safe haven, but 
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Right. 
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happens in the middle in the in 
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to run to from there, right. 
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that we have arrived at. 
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You know, we have good life, but
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I think what Saint Peter, and 
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join in is what Saint Peter is 
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wherever you are in this world, 
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You are a refugee. 
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Expect to continue to have 
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Financial relationship, 
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community, mostly spiritually. 
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citizenship of one place where 
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there will be no suffering, and 
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You know how many citizens, How 
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one, so I'm gonna be a I'm not a
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another one. 
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I'll have 3 citizenships right, 
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My 4th citizenship, which. 
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as sojourner. 
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I claim to be the chill, the 
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I claim to be the heir of that 
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about which is the Kingdom of 
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So I think this is what Saint 
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It's not the end. 
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hardship. 
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place as the Kingdom of heaven. 
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that. 
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great part, our citizenship in 
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citizenship, because we're sons 
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baptism and by our faith and by 
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way to live internally with God 
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Which is the Kingdom of God. 
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great point. 
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do in this life, no matter where
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end up in, we're never really 
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our morals, our identity, our 
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pressured and persecuted and 
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Attacked, really. 
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in various different means and 
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it's being exposed even to 
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it's becoming really, really 
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normalized in society to 
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especially Christianity. 
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Christianity is the most 
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world and from the beginning and
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Bible says that. 
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lives in the days of Christ, you
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Pentecost, especially when they 
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before they gained that 
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So I think also us as baptized 
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heart that we also do have the 
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us. 
So we're not alone in this 

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that's different with this. 
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status that we have as 
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don't need a foreign government 
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And the Jade us that is always 
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You know the refugees that are 
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at one stage it was Greece and 
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Greece, Lebanon. 
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system when they were applying 
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refugee status. 
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point system and you had to make
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Many of them were refused the 
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applying after 5th or. 6th time 
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And there have to be an 
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It's the same with our spiritual
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You know, there is a point 
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We need to meet a criteria, and 
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we are comfortable and at ease 
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We need to continue to fight the
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The battle is everywhere, at 
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So the criteria is that we live 
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our Lord and our Savior, Jesus 
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We follow Jesus Christ. 
That's what we were singing. 

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We will follow Jesus. 
We continue to obey. 

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Obedience is the key factor for 
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So the criteria is that if we 
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according to God's will, 
according to the statutes of the

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Lord. 
And being a beating to our Jesus

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Christ and loving him and loving
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fellow Christian or just our 
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Then when the visa time arrives,
you know, as soon as I remember 

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when my family was arriving from
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United States back in 2013, it 
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night. 
I got a message from Melissa and

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there was a picture of the visa.
And this is about 12/12/30 and I

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used to reside with His Grace 
today, His Holiness 1230 on his 

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veteran talk. 
Guess, guess, See, I got the 

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visa, They got the visa right. 
I was excited, but they were 

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migrating from a land of toil 
and hardship to a bigger land of

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toil and a hardship, right? 
But when that visa? 

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Is is due when we receive that 
amazing welcome. 

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This is what the countries do 
They welcome you to their 

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countries and you know those who
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It's always I got my citizen, 
I'm America citizen now right 

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when we receive that 
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our Lord and Savior Jesus 
Christ, we don't need a welcome 

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from the governments. 
We don't need to attend any 

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special ceremony. 
We will be. 

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Abiding in the blessings and the
bliss of our Lord now Savior 

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Jesus Christ. 
Remember, remember, and this is 

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what we forget sometimes we are 
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Mirad Gary, we have a special 
place that is prepared for you 

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and I and this is what we've 
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know obviously the entire world 
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hardship, but not to be of this 
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Not to have the desires of this 
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experiencing, the desires of the
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discipline and just as we have 
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authority as well. 
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follow the laws of the land, so 
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policeman for heaven roaming the
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loyal to the commandments of God
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fear of God and in ourselves and
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because it seems so distant to 
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Day is so far away. 
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I have time, I have time. 
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does the morning prayer say in 
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after day? 
I promise that I will repent. 

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can wait and we can put things 
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repentance. 
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that as Christians, we can't 
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We have to live according to the
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days of our life. 
I remember of a story and and it

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goes like the head of this 
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and there was a. 
Satanic come down the Satanic 

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conference and the chief came 
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to go down on earth to cause the
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hell. 
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One of the demons said, I will, 
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I'm going to go and tell them 
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And this is the world and you 
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Have them conform to the 
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the chief said, he said no, no, 
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because when they were in 
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I'll go and and cause wars and 
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brother against brother and 
mother against sons and 

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whatever. 
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to come back to God and you 
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Be obedient And there was a 
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demon said I know what I'm going
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I'm going to go tell the world 
You have plenty of time you have

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plenty of time And the chief 
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tell them that they have plenty 
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You know we prepare our life and
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time we you know I'm sure when 
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Financially, you leave a little 
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for that. 
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But when we prepare our day, our
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years, we never, ever pencil in 
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We never even think about death.
We don't like to hear about 

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death. 
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Alahala marzilo, Hon khasha. 
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But we're going to go through 
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But we must pray that. 
Lord, help me to focus on you 

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continuously so that when I do 
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times that are trying 
temptations that I even if I 

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make fall, I get up and I 
continue my life with you until 

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you return. 
I always say Christianity is not

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a click of the finger Finger 
Repent. 

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Are you repented? 
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I don't know if I'm going to 
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It's a lifetime commitment. 
You know, they say Christianity 

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is not 100 meter race. 
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It's a journey. 
It's a journey, and we're 

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sojourners. 
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Do you have anything else you 
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To. 
OK, well, these episodes are not

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too long, and Steven always says
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By the way, I'd like to 
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Steven, who's here? 
Big ground for pause. 

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Adrina couldn't be with us, 
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Shout out to her. 
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producer. 
Thank you and thank you for you,

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the audience. 
A big round of applause for you 

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guys as well. 
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Thank you to those who have 
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Christen and you know they 
expressed their their what is it

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satisfaction or with the with 
the podcast Don't tell me what's

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good. 
Come and tell me what you don't 

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like of the podcast. 
OK So what is good is God. 

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Glory to his name. 
What is not so effective? 

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That is what I'd like to hear 
about South that we can correct 

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and make effective. 
And this is always everything 

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that we do. 
We do for the glory of God first

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and foremost and for the 
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God bless you all and it's been 
great to see you all. 

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Shamasha, any last words and. 
Last comments yeah, it'll be. 

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I don't think we can end this 
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members of the Nash the North 
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that. 
We would love to see all of you 

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guys next year at our 
conference, especially if you're

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age between the ages of 13 to 
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We really highly suggest you 
join your local chapter of these

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association so that next year we
can see you in person and we can

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meet you in person. 
So that together we can go on 

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this journey as sojourners and 
we can work together to build up

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our faith and to enjoy our 
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with our own people. 
Anaheim Next to You, Right Is 

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it? 
You know Irvine, CA, Yes. 

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California. 
Great. 

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Let's continue gaining all the 
points that we need so that when

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the visa has actually been 
issued that we will all see each

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other in the Kingdom of heaven. 
I'd like to see everyone in the 

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Kingdom of heaven. 
No more preaching. 

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No more podcast. 
Hello. 

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Thank you, Lord. 
No more podcast, No more Raza, 

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No more praying. 
And I always say, if we pray in 

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the Kingdom of heaven, it will 
be our Father in heaven, 

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hallowed be your name. 
That's it. 

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Because if we ask for the 
Kingdom to come, the Lord will 

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say, well, you're in the 
Kingdom, Papara, you're in the 

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Kingdom. 
And if we say your will be done 

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while my will has been done in 
your life, that is why you're in

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the Kingdom. 
As in heaven saw on earth. 

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What earth? 
Earth is gone, is melted. 

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All the elements have melted. 
Forgive our sins. 

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What? 
You're a Sinner and you're in 

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the Kingdom of heaven. 
You know that's not going to 

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happen. 
We will be glorifying God along 

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with the angels. 
Amalah. 

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Fine. 
We cry out with the Angel. 

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Holy, holy, holy, are you. 
Praise and glory be to the name 

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of our Heavenly Father through 
Jesus Christ and the Holy 

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Spirit. 
Now not all times and forever. 

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Amen. 
Thank you, God. 

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