1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 In the name of the glorious Trinity, Father and Son and Holy 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Spirit, forever Amen. Glory be to the everlasting 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,720 mercies which sent you to us. O Christ, the light of the world 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,480 and the life of all. Give us wisdom by Your law and 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,480 enlighten our impulses by Your knowledge. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Sanctify our souls by Your truth and grant that we may be 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,040 obedient to Your words and may fulfill Your commandments at 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,320 every hour. O You who enlightens the 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,520 rationale with the knowledge of Your greatness, do enlight, O my 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Lord, our thoughts, that we may meditate upon Your holy and 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,720 divine Scriptures at all times. O Lord of all, Father and Son 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,480 and Holy Spirit, forever. Amen. 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. 14 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:07,680 Wherever you are listening at any time that you're listening. 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Welcome to the double edged sword Assyrian Church of the 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,200 East Mara Day parish podcast episode. 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Yes, I know the introduction was or the beginning was different. 18 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:22,680 The Commandments commencement was different simply because 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,400 this episode is going to be a a special episode. 20 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:37,320 And I am greatly joy to welcome a brother and a friend who 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:49,080 yesterday, Sunday, June 9th was graciously bestowed upon the 22 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,160 holy ranks of the Church from the right hand of His Holiness 23 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,760 the Patriarch Mar Our Royal. And that friend, that acolyte is 24 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,920 my brother. Prior to ordination, Sub Deacon 25 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:12,160 Colin bit Ishu, but now Deacon Colin bit Ishu and it's my 26 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,000 pleasure to introduce him. Shamasha, Deacon welcome. 27 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Thank you, Rabbi Kasha, thank you for having me. 28 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:19,840 Great to have you on the episode. 29 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Great. Pleasure and a great honor. 30 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,520 OK, take a deep breath. Relax. 31 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,240 There you go. It's simple, once you get warmed 32 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,200 up I won't be able to stop you from talking right? 33 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Tell us a little bit about Deacon Colin bit issue. 34 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,920 I I don't want the the listeners to be introduced and well known 35 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,400 of you. Well, I'd like to start with 36 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,720 again. Thank you for having me on, 37 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,160 Deacon Colin. Betty Shu would like to be known 38 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,440 as a humble, unworthy servant of Christ first and foremost, and 39 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,720 then everything else and all the hoopla after that. 40 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:02,080 But I'm a student still at Stanislaw State University and 41 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,360 just trying my best to juggle work, school, and my holy 42 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,800 service, which I'm not worthy for, but that I love to carry 43 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,520 out here in the church. How old are you, Deacon? 44 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,440 20. And you were born. 45 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,680 December of 2003 in Turlock, CA. You're Turlockian. 46 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,160 Homegrown. Yes. 47 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,640 And your parents, Asher and. Linda. 48 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,560 Petesia, let's give Asher a plug. 49 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,080 How's that? Go ahead. 50 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,640 Petesia and company CPA. If you need tax work done, you 51 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:37,000 know he's the guy to go to. Excellent and siblings. 52 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,920 I've got two older siblings that are a little bit older than me. 53 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,480 My older brother, Mara O'Neill, he's 28. 54 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,680 And my older sister, Brad Teal, who just graduated from medical 55 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,040 school. Congratulations, Brad Teal are 56 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,320 proud of you. Thank you. 57 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,760 She's 26. And then I'm Colin with the 58 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,120 American name. Shamasha, Colin. 59 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Shamasha, Colin, thank you. The run of the group at 20. 60 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:06,760 I was introduced to you by my sister Edna Bethelia, the Marta 61 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Day parish youth president. I remember she specifically 62 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 remember she approached me and said I'll be, there's this guy 63 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,800 that comes to church every Sunday and I'd, I'd see you come 64 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,079 and, you know, partake in the Holy Communion. 65 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:22,240 He's a tall guy. And I said, yeah, he's always a 66 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:22,920 church. Very. 67 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Seems humble. Seemed humble, yeah. 68 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,280 Before he got to new me. Seemed humble and and he said, 69 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:33,320 oh, he, you know, he's great and you know, he, he comes to youth 70 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,760 and maybe we should ask him to join the youth committee. 71 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 And it all began from that point. 72 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,600 But prior to you and I meeting or prior to me meeting you, what 73 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,040 was Shalasha Colin doing prior to that? 74 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Well, truth be told, our family, I was not born into the church, 75 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,600 you know, Protestant background in and out of church. 76 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Quite honestly, before I started coming to church here, I wasn't 77 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,720 even really a regular churchgoer. 78 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,920 And then thank God around, you know, 18 years old, 17 years 79 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,360 old, COVID hit. And by the grace of God, I kind 80 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,400 of had a 180 turn around in my life, started reading my 81 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,320 scriptures, praying daily, and I said I wanted to attend church. 82 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,680 And at the time my father Asher was going to Margie Ergas 83 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,760 parish. In. 84 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,720 Series, right? I started attending with him and 85 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,200 then once I saw that he wasn't going every Sunday, you know, I 86 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,600 said, well, I've got to go somewhere and I didn't want to 87 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,200 take the drive to series from Turlock. 88 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,200 So thanks in part to laziness, I ended up at what a day? 89 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,560 And the rest is history. God who can give you 90 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,280 immeasurably things that you did not even think of. 91 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:46,040 Saint Paul writes in the book to Galatians in his Epistle to 92 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,280 Galatians. Back then, it was just, I just, 93 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,040 I'm just going to go attend church. 94 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Little did you know that one day you're going to be interviewed 95 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,880 by Masha Janard on podcast episode. 96 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,720 And it'd be the peak of my life. So you came to church and 97 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,760 obviously, how learn it? Were you of the language and the 98 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,360 service itself? If there was a number less than 99 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,480 0 I could put, I'd give, you know, absolutely zero. 100 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:16,680 And I remember when I was a kid, you know, my father started 101 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,840 attending the Assyrian Church of the East about 10 years ago, 102 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:23,960 20/14/2015. I remember he took us to, it was 103 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,520 the services at Larsa Hall for Christmas or Easter, I don't 104 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,520 remember. But you know, I'm sitting there 105 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,840 and I don't understand anything, not even much of the Assyrian. 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,640 And I just prayed to God and I said, you know, one day, open my 107 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,960 understanding, you know, teach me, open my eyes so I can 108 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,240 understand what's going on. And then? 109 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,480 But you still attend the church. You still would attend church on 110 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,640 a Sunday. No, no. 111 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Oh. OK. 112 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:50,480 I'd say that started about two years ago. 113 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,200 All right. Did you understand then when you 114 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,720 attend the church? I'd say about that Mark two 115 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,760 years ago was about 0%, OK. So, so just this just refutes 116 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,360 that argument that we don't understand what's happening in 117 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,160 the church. You don't have to understand 118 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,880 what's happening in the church, just partaking in the public 119 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,880 worship of the church. God can call you. 120 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Absolutely. So to understand somewhat 121 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,640 something and then to receive from God that's just refuted 122 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,800 through what you experience. You don't need to understand the 123 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,240 provisions of God. You just need to believe and 124 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,960 draw near, and then God can then give them to you in His 125 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,200 miraculous and gracious ways. Absolutely. 126 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,920 Amen. Great. 127 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,760 And when you're attending, I mean, even if you don't 128 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,880 understand anything, I think one thing is the how the faithful 129 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,280 who are regular attendees, you see them and how they are bowed 130 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,760 out and prey or beating on their chests asking for forgiveness. 131 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,640 You can understand what's going on. 132 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,040 And just that tiny bit of understanding, it might even be 133 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,320 sweeter than because you don't understand what you're relying 134 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,480 fully on your faith to say. Wow, what glorious presence I'm 135 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,280 in. And the songs and like Adisha, 136 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Allah Allah, Kumara and just the tunes are enough to get you to 137 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,000 feel like you're really strengthening your relationship 138 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,040 with God. Picture or a scene says 1000 139 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,960 words. Absolutely. 140 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Yeah. So then we begin with your 141 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,000 education. And I know our beloved Ravi 142 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,200 Harsha, Archdeacon Oceana Cannon who is the the Vicar of the 143 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Patriarch in the Diocese of California and the Parish Preset 144 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Margaret Gesture series has a big role to play in your 145 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,520 education in the language and the services itself. 146 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:43,400 Yeah, I had started with, and I'm going to give another plug 147 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,160 here to Robbie Hubert Baharam in Chicago. 148 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,560 He taught the Assyrian language, the vernacular on Zoom. 149 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,680 And then as I was in church one of those days before I started 150 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:57,320 coming every Sunday, I heard Kasha Ocean announce that 151 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,480 they're going to have classes. And I went in one Monday. 152 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 And I didn't know then that the Monday classes were actually for 153 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,600 acolytes. And I went in there and there I 154 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,080 saw Akasha and I said, hey, you know, I'm here to learn a 155 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,400 language and credit Akasha. He he leaped up, you know, with 156 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,200 a big smile, and he got right to me. 157 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,720 And I think Alan as well, Alan Aldawood had a role to play in 158 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,880 that as well. Absolutely. 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Absolutely, and I believe Arabi, Soro or or sura. 160 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Sura. Yeah. 161 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:34,360 So the vernacular was from our brother Hubert, who has done a 162 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,520 tremendous job via Zoom. Many people who didn't read and 163 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,000 write, couldn't read and write, are now reading and writing. 164 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,280 That's right. And then the the Aramaic, the 165 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,080 ancient Assyrian I refer to the liturgical language was then 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,960 taught by Kasha Oceana and Alan and Rabi Suru. 167 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,960 Yeah, credit to you as well. Shamasha, Wilson, Shamash, 168 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,560 Robert, really all the deacons at our church. 169 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:06,680 Shamasha Puli, Shamasha Edison, everyone really just kind of 170 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:08,840 here and there teaching me and then particularly Shamasha 171 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,600 Wilson as we have our class now every every Thursday really not 172 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,840 only just reading, but also understanding and rules of 173 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,720 grammar to really help me understand better as well. 174 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Well, it's the different members of the body of Christ working 175 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,520 together for the edification of the body and the glorification 176 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,000 of the head, which is Jesus Christ. 177 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Praise me to his name. So then you've been spotted in 178 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,800 the church and I remember, please refresh my memories. 179 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,960 I'm getting old. I think we spoke about and I 180 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,800 thought and we spoke about taking on the ranking of the sub 181 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:51,480 Deacon and yourself and another some there were other candidates 182 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,840 as well. What you know, drawing to God, 183 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,680 drawing to the church, learning the language. 184 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:03,240 What was the the main drive or the catalyst of you being 185 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,080 interested and contemplating taking receiving rankings in the 186 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,600 church? Well, I think the one of the 187 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,160 main drivers in accepting the rank initially because it was 188 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,920 not something I planned to do at all. 189 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,200 I was there to learn the language was, you know, I was 190 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,440 taught well correct to my parents to respect authority. 191 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:26,960 And when you and Akasha Vishana wanted to give this to me, I saw 192 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,240 it as a blessing to be someone who a few years ago couldn't 193 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,760 tell you anything from the liturgy of the Eastern Church of 194 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,600 the East to not being offered a holy order. 195 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,960 I also think that I wanted to at the time, I was very on fire in 196 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,440 my relationship with Christ. And I saw this with prayer and 197 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,800 fasting as something that Christ was giving to me to draw me 198 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,360 closer to him. So I said, well, it's a no 199 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,040 brainer. And as I accepted the the 200 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,880 ranking and I, I saw what can be good in the church and quite 201 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,600 honestly, the faithfulness of not only the deacons and the 202 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,760 priests, but also just a regular layman, that also drew me closer 203 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,200 because I said, here is this faith that I've been reading 204 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,320 about at home, I've read about online, and I've heard my entire 205 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 life about Christ. Here it is in practice. 206 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:26,640 You are a regular attendee of the Vespers of the the Matins 207 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,200 slot Lilia, the morning prayers and obviously the service did. 208 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Was that a a a tool or was that the way that helped you to 209 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,200 increase in knowledge and understanding of the services? 210 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,000 I'd say the mountains are invaluable for learning just 211 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,920 about everything you need to know about the Eastern Church of 212 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,720 the East, and especially the language. 213 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,320 You learn so much there, and you're around your brother 214 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,760 deacons and the priests, and you pick up just so much from those. 215 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,360 And you know, the evening prayers help as well, but the 216 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,520 mountains in the morning are incredibly valuable. 217 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,400 From the chance, from the language itself and, and also 218 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,480 the order of the prayers itself, you know, but there's one thing 219 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,560 that you really need to as your parish priest and I want to tell 220 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:17,160 everyone that you need, really need to work on his vacuuming. 221 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Oh definitely, I've got to be the least valuable sub Deacon of 222 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,480 all time now that it's all said and done when it comes to 223 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,400 vacuuming. Because you know, as sub Deacon, 224 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,320 Christ fulfilled this order as well is when he made the whip 225 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,880 and drove out all those who were selling and purchasing and 226 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,400 auctioning in the temple, cleansing the temple. 227 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:43,080 So one of the responsibilities and one of the duties of a sub 228 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,680 Deacon is to make sure that the church, the the holy altar, the 229 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,280 sanctuaries is clean. The books are all ready to go 230 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:55,600 and that's why every time at 7:00 sub Deacon Colin would go 231 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,360 and do some vacuuming and I'd see him struggle with the 232 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,000 cordon. But that's OK, that's secondary, 233 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,720 right? Let me, let me bring you to to 234 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:12,800 yesterday, Sunday at 9:45 AM when the the actual ordination 235 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,680 service commenced. And as you were reading your 236 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,840 oath of office and we say the Modi Anuta, your confession of 237 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,240 faith, your oath of office or prior to that or the night 238 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,280 before that, what was going through your mind? 239 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,760 You can also refer back to when it was when you were first being 240 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,760 ordained the 1st order, which was Sub Deccan as well. 241 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,600 Well the 1st order was I have no idea what's going to happen 242 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,360 tomorrow. God help me and I couldn't worry 243 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,680 too much 'cause there was no worrying would help me. 244 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,520 I think yesterday, I think my main concern was when I was 245 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,560 giving the the blood of Christ to His Holiness. 246 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,280 Just God help me not to spill or mess anything up. 247 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,080 But you know, you're nervous not only because you're going to be 248 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,320 giving that oath, not only because you're going to be 249 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,120 saying the diagonal litany, you're going to be speaking in 250 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,600 front of people. Everyone's going to have their 251 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,080 eyes on you. You're nervous because you're 252 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,480 taking on a role that you know you're not worthy for and that 253 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,600 you know that you can never fulfill fully, but that the 254 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,080 closer you are are to Christ and prayer and fasting and 255 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,840 almsgiving and then following His commandments, His teachings, 256 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,520 the better you're going to carry it out. 257 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,400 So you're just nervous because you're embarking on a journey 258 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,280 that you know you can't necessarily reach the end, that 259 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,800 you can try your best, and that it really is up to you a lot of 260 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,680 the times to try your best. Philippians 413 I'm empowered to 261 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,560 do it all by him who empowers me. 262 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,920 And as you were reading your oath of office or your 263 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,520 confession, what came to my mind, the vision I I could see 264 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,360 was when the Lord tells Moses to take Joshua. 265 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,200 This is Numbers chapter 15. Take Joshua, the son of nine nun 266 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,120 in whom is the something that blows my mind. 267 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Shamash is this God tells Moses, take Joshua the son of Nun, who 268 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,000 has the Spirit on him, yet you lay his hand on the. 269 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,240 Spirit of God. I mean, I mean to that, but yet 270 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,640 God says to Moses, you lay your hand and give him your 271 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,920 authority, which was got from God. 272 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,800 So there's the authority was laying on of the But the other 273 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,920 thing was that God commands him to bring him before the people 274 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,800 so the people could see that this is the man that's going to 275 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,720 serve you so that people will respect and people will accept 276 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,000 the service of this man of Joshua. 277 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,000 And yesterday as you were reading your confession and your 278 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,280 earth of office, it was the church presenting you to the 279 00:16:54,280 --> 00:17:00,280 congregation that this young man, this servant, unworthy 280 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,040 servant will be serving you. So it's a, it's all about 281 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,480 serving. And I think you have grasped 282 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,640 that. What would be your your advice, 283 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:19,079 suggestion, recommendation for those who also like you, are 284 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:25,280 contemplating and anticipating and maybe even desiring to 285 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:28,000 approach the Holy Orders of the Church? 286 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,960 First of all, I'd say you have to pray about it. 287 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,680 You have to pray about it when you're in fasts, that's probably 288 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,520 the best time because you're weakening the body, 289 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,160 strengthening the soul, and you get to know more of what your 290 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 soul truly desires and that's guided by God. 291 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,800 But you have to pray about it. You, you have to attend church 292 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,600 on Sundays, every Sunday, if you can, just to get familiar with 293 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,640 the atmosphere, familiar with the chance, see how it is 294 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,160 carried out, get to know the the clergy, get to know the regular 295 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,960 laypeople. And also you have to be in your 296 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,240 scriptures because we can come to church every Sunday. 297 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,400 We can go to all the prayers, we can fast, we can give alms, we 298 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,280 can do alms giving. But you need to be reading your 299 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,840 scriptures because that's your guidebook on how you should 300 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,840 live, not only as a Christian, but if you're going to accept 301 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,840 the Holy Order, you have more responsibility and you need to 302 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,920 be adept with scriptures. The scriptures being Jesus 303 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,680 Christ himself, you know we read in Acts Chapter 11 where Antioch 304 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,120 who had heard the message from from Saint Paul for such a long 305 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:34,320 time were the first city to be worthy of called being called 306 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,680 Christians, meaning Christ like small small Christ. 307 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,640 So the gospel that was preached them is Jesus Christ. 308 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,080 So when you and rightly so and so beautifully that you say when 309 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,040 you you need to be intact with your scriptures. 310 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,600 You need you need to have a relationship with the scriptures 311 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,640 is a relationship with Jesus Christ. 312 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,760 Be honest with me. If you weren't until to date 313 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Asha Masha, would you still be attending church, do you think? 314 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,520 I mean, I'd hope and pray to God I would. 315 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,240 I was attending pretty consistently about half a year 316 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,560 before my first ordination and I think that was one of the 317 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720 biggest stepping stones in accepting the rank as well. 318 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560 I hope I would be. At the time I was on fire of my 319 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,760 relationship with Christ and I I was reading every day and my my 320 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,720 fasts were amazing and I was. Has there been ups and downs? 321 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,160 I'm. Sorry. 322 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,360 And that's what I was going to come to. 323 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:33,240 There absolutely have been major ups and downs, and a big part of 324 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,520 that has been during my duration as a subdeacon. 325 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,840 And I don't know, I'd hoped to God that during those downs I 326 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,120 wouldn't have lost my faith. How did you overcome? 327 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,320 One thing I think that's a blessing of a rank is you feel 328 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,280 the responsibility of just being there. 329 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,680 And when you show up consistently and you have that 330 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,160 consistency, even if you're in those, you know, plateaus or 331 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,040 you're falling down into a bad hole, you're still around 332 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Christ's church. And that at the very least holds 333 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,920 you. It holds you up. 334 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,640 And I and I would say if you're attending the liturgy, if you're 335 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,640 attending prayers, you can't be spiritually dead. 336 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,760 And as long as you have that. Ember, that flickering ember 337 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,360 that won't be put out. And I think that's mentioned in 338 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:21,520 Isaiah prophecy about Christ that ember will not be put out. 339 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,840 I mean, Christ himself quotes that, that a broken Reed he will 340 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,080 not break in a flickering light He will not put out. 341 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Let me go through the oath just to remind, in case in case 342 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,640 you've forgotten, it's been a day. 343 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,520 That first sentence is the most viable. 344 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Anna Mchilla, me wretched. Oh yeah, I wretched obviously 345 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,200 then sub Deacon Colin, you confessed your faith in the one 346 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,800 God in the Holy Trinity, in the person, one person of Jesus 347 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Christ. 2 natures 2 hypotheses. Can you make characteristics in 348 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,040 one person of Jesus Christ? Yes, we believe Jesus is God, 349 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,160 praise and glory be to his name. Jesus is God. 350 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,840 You confessed that you believe and accept and the seven 351 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:16,280 sacraments of the Church and you also confess that you believe in 352 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:22,760 the the first council, the the the International Council 353 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Council of Nicaea in 325. And then you promised first the 354 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,000 the first part is you confessing your faith in all of what I just 355 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,000 very briefly touched upon. But this is I think for me is 356 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:45,200 this is the pinnacle is where you Kahul 11 you can you promise 357 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:53,160 When I talk to couples who are embarking on on holy matrimony 358 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,160 and and I always refer to my say when we have asked you, when the 359 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,520 priest read you your vows, you know, in the Church of the East, 360 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,640 the priest is the efficient, you know, back at home, you know, to 361 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,040 the truition tradition was that the priest would also place the 362 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,760 rings on the finger of the bride and the bridegroom. 363 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,520 And some couples to date are bringing back that tradition. 364 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,520 They actually ask the priest or the the officiant if it whether 365 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,840 it's a Bishop that they would like the priest to. 366 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:29,880 So the priest reads out the the the vows and during that, once 367 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:36,000 they've accepted, they both say, yes, the first person we call as 368 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,880 witness is God. We say May God he's only angels, 369 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,440 prophets, apostles, priest, Deacon and the faithful bear 370 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,320 witness that they have now promised. 371 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,560 So you standing at the altar of the church, God being your 372 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,480 witness, patriarch, the priest, the deacons, the angels, the 373 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600 prophets, the apostles, the community, the congregation, you 374 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,920 said I promised before the living God and I just said 375 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,120 everything. You know, I always jumped the 376 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,440 gun. So the the the clergy and what 377 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,600 have you that you will conduct yourself in faith and in 378 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,520 obedience, in humility. Now this goes out to all the 379 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,400 acolytes that are hearing this. It's good to bring out this 380 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,480 every night. This will be given. 381 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,360 This was given to you. It's good to sometimes go back 382 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:30,480 and revisit, you know, as I tell married couples, every six 383 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,600 months, go back and Fast forward to dancing and what have you and 384 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,520 the Zorno Daula and just come to the church part. 385 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520 And just so you can recap what you've been, what you promised. 386 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,000 It's good to read this every six months that you promise that you 387 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,040 will be obedient, you will be humble, you will be obedient and 388 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:56,320 a a preserver and to the instructions of the hierarchies 389 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,440 that you've received that ordination from, that you will 390 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:06,040 conduct yourself at all times in prayer, in fasting, and in the 391 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Holy Scriptures and the services of the church. 392 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,000 And my dear Shamasha, this was given before God. 393 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,960 It's as though you stood before God who had chosen you were all 394 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,160 called, but if you are elected, has elected you, and you stood 395 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,760 and said, God, your Holiness Rabi Shamasha, the prophets, the 396 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,240 apostles, everyone, I promise that I will conduct myself in 397 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,120 this manner. What does that mean to you? 398 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:46,280 It means that I'm undertaking something that I have to call on 399 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,840 God to help me do. I've promised to God, but at the 400 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,920 same time I'm kind of whispering to him aside and saying can you 401 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320 help me with this? I promise I'll do it if you help 402 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,920 me. I promise to do this with your 403 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,120 help, right? And it's not something that even 404 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:05,000 if you're in the best condition of your life, you cannot rely on 405 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,400 yourself. And I believe you mentioned it. 406 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,840 I'm I was standing on the altar confessing not only to God and 407 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,680 to the patriarch and to all the clergy, but also to the people, 408 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,880 and that I'm serving Christ through serving other servants 409 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,480 of Christ. I. 410 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Mean and you and you ended your your promise by saying pray for 411 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:35,480 me and everyone said Amen. So it is a a great undertaking 412 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:42,160 yes and and as difficult that is as it seems, excuse me as 413 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,000 challenging sometimes as it seems, but I always remember 414 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,120 when Christ said to his apostles, you have to abide in 415 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:56,080 me because you cannot do anything without me and my dear 416 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Deacon, you've already witnessed this, but you're going to be a 417 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,080 greater part in these ministries now or the myth, the mysteries 418 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,360 of themselves, the sacraments is that I always say to the brother 419 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,360 deacons, and you've been present after a baptism. 420 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:15,800 For example, I say, look at the the rank that God has lifted up 421 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:24,480 us to where that child through our frail hands, through the 422 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Amen of the deacons has been put to death with Christ and has 423 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,920 been brought to life and has been born in you and has been 424 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,200 given you life. And you're going to be a part of 425 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,520 that. You know, when we enter the 426 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,520 altar and we open our arms and we say, and may there come, O my 427 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Lord, you're going to be a part of that command, that service 428 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:59,200 where the bread and the wine will be mysteriously spiritually 429 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720 changed into the real presence of Jesus Christ for the 430 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,040 salvation of souls. I think when every now and then 431 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,360 we contemplate on this, we we ponder on it, that makes it 432 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,920 easier for us to get up on that Sunday and come to the service 433 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,880 and fulfill our command, our obligation according to Christ's 434 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,120 commandments. I mean, I was about to say when 435 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:28,680 you during Raza after Raza, before Raza Sunday was it hit 436 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,680 me, I said, I'm administering the blood of our Savior Jesus 437 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,720 Christ to the patriarch of an Apostolic Church, to priests of 438 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840 an Apostolic Church, to deacons, to hundreds of peoples who 439 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,680 believe in Jesus Christ. For the cleansing of sins. 440 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Sins, yes. And I think, who am I? 441 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,080 I'm 20 years old. I, I'm still in school. 442 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,320 I don't know, you know, I'm not a theologian. 443 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,200 And I'm administering this, this part of the holy sacrament of 444 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,840 the body and blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 445 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,240 And it helps you to remain humble because then you sit and 446 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,840 you think, what am I doing here? I should not be here. 447 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,920 I do not deserve this. I am not worthy and I will never 448 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,720 understand it. I mean. 449 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,480 I mean, and God uses the fools and the weak of the world to put 450 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,360 to shame those who are smart and strong in their own 451 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,680 understanding. And I'm paraphrasing, obviously. 452 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,960 Last question, and I have to throw this in. 453 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:37,680 Any hint or desire or you know, what's the word? 454 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Yeah. Any hint or desire? 455 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,480 Priesthood, God willing, if. It's God's will and that's all 456 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120 I'll leave it at. I'll continue to pray about it 457 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,400 because when I consider it, I know that it's not easy. 458 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,080 I know that it's a burden, not a bad burden, but it's it's a 459 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,720 burden. Telling me, yeah. 460 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,960 I'm preaching to the choir, but if God wills it, I have, I have 461 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,640 immense faith that if He decides to choose me, that I will come 462 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,640 and say as your as your will, my Lord. 463 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Just as our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary said to the Angel, 464 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760 let it be as you have told me here I am. 465 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,480 I am the servant made maiden of the Lord. 466 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,880 And and that's that's the mindset that we should have. 467 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Not that I want to be only because I want to. 468 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,560 It should and not that. Oh no, no, I can't. 469 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,280 I can't and I'm not worthy. It's when God calls, you know, 470 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:42,040 Saint Paul says, how can I clay or is it a pot or how can the 471 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,480 clay tell the Potter, why have you made me like this? 472 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Who am I to say why me? Lord, you know I always say when 473 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,160 God says jump, you say I'm up, take me. 474 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440 God bless you. Do you want to add anything 475 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,400 else? You want to give your 476 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,600 suggestions and your and your advice to those again that want 477 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,960 to do something in the church and become a one of the 478 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,240 acolytes. I do. 479 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,680 I want to speak to my brothers my age, young men who are 480 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,560 thinking about the church and if they're Syrian, should be 481 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Christian because that's part of our identity. 482 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000 And I thought about this the other day and I thought I'm a 483 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 genius. No, what I thought it's always 484 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520 said as Assyrians, you know, we don't have a country and it's 485 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440 used against us and it's used to belittle us. 486 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,280 If you if if you hear and, or if you read in the Old Testament, 487 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,640 when God speaking to the Israelites, he mentions them 488 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,200 going into the land of Israel and the Assyrian language 489 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Yortuta, which is roughly inheritance of English. 490 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,720 And I think that we may not have a nation with land, but we have 491 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,920 an entire church as an inheritance. 492 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,640 I mean, it's got a Syrian in the name. 493 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,680 And so that is my nation. And I believe a lot of men my 494 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,480 age, Assyrian men young, want to be nationalistic. 495 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680 They want to help out their their nation. 496 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,520 And I think for many of them, if you're in Turlock, San Jose, 497 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Chicago, where most of us are, you can. 498 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 And it's through the Assyrian Church of the East serving Jesus 499 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,800 Christ and serving his flock. I mean to that and and we know 500 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680 what this Assyrian nation has done for Christendom. 501 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,320 All glory to God, we say la matermentalaha, God doesn't own 502 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,440 us for this own doesn't owe us for this, but they went and the 503 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,920 missionaries of the Assyrian Church of these yes, the 504 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120 Assyrian Church of this. You know, some people ask me why 505 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,680 do you say it's Assyrian Because it's it's founded by Assyria, 506 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,280 just like the Roman Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox 507 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Church. We are the Assyrian Church of 508 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,040 the East, not the Syrian. We should emphasize the Assyrian 509 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Church of the East and history archaeology is echoing the 510 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,960 missionary work of the Assyrian Church of these and their 511 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,840 missions. And we are proud to be in the 512 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,280 church just like every other church and all the other 513 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,360 brothers and sisters in different churches. 514 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,640 And you're absolutely right. And I believe that Nineveh is 515 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,080 the church and it's a spiritual Nineveh we have. 516 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,480 And one day, if God wants to grant us the physical earthly 517 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,600 ninva, let it be His will. If not, I'm content with the 518 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520 physical or the spiritual ninva that we have. 519 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Did the four return or not? No, they're gone. 520 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320 They're gone. That's a that's it's a private. 521 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280 That you understand. Understand. 522 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520 Yeah, let him who understands, understands. 523 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,720 OK, Well, thank you so much, Shamasha. 524 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Deacon, lovely to have you on your program. 525 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,200 And, and actually, this will not be the last. 526 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,760 It may be the first. It will not be the last. 527 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560 Let him, will, will, will allow him to put his money where his 528 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,200 mouth is. Is that what they say? 529 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Yeah. Money where your mouth is. 530 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,600 We'd love to have you on the program on the episode. 531 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,960 We can present together or we can present programs if you 532 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,440 like, and and be a part of this program because that is one of 533 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,720 your vocations as well. Thank you, Robbie again, it was 534 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040 a pleasure to be on and I will send out a petition to every 535 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,720 every viewer or listener rather to pray for me as I embark on 536 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,280 this holy order just as I pray for you. 537 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000 I believe one thing our church needs and all Christianity is 538 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,360 more prayer. And not just empty prayer, but 539 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,480 truly prayer on the behalf of others. 540 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560 I mean. Petition and supplication, yes, 541 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,360 God bless you. May your we say, that will have 542 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,800 a break. May your new order be blessed 543 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,840 upon you, and may the Lord strengthen you with wisdom, 544 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,240 knowledge, and understanding to serve him for His glory and for 545 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,720 the salvation of souls. And may the grace of our Lord 546 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,840 Jesus Christ and the love of God the Father and the fellowship of 547 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,040 the Holy Spirit be with us all now and at all times, Father and 548 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320 Son and Holy Spirit forever. Amen. 549 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:24,440 Amen. The We hope you enjoyed this 550 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000 week's message. 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