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Hey everyone and welcome back to
another episode of Ham Radio, a 

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Stranger Things podcast. 
Today I will be talking about a 

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prevalent piece of symbolism 
that has been through has been 

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in Stranger Things since season 
1 and looks to be a key part of 

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season 5. 
So what what is that piece of 

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symbolism you may ask? 
The rabbit, of course, 

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everyone's favorite, the rabbit.
And this is actually going to be

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Part 1 of Part 2 because in Part
2, I will be talking about 

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another big piece of symbolism 
that has been within Stranger 

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Things, especially in Season 4 
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well. 
And that will be the rainbow. 

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But that will be next week. 
But today I will be talking 

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about all things rabbits today 
and what they can tell us about 

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Stranger Things and why maybe 
Stranger Things, why the rabbit 

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is such a big part of the mythos
and lore of the show. 

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Before I do that, I would again 
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behalf of ham radio media to our
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for the past couple weeks. 
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podcast and then Haley from 
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account. 
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with. 
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listen to those episodes that I 
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But again, thank you again, 
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to this, thank you again for 
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Yeah, onto the show with me to 
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Rings. 
And then Funko Pops again, had a

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good time with both of them in 
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So again, make sure you get 
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Listen. 
All right, so let's talk about 

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rabbits themselves first, shall 
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So just to give you some basic 
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there are over 30 species of 
rabbits. 

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The family that they are in, 
it's called the leper or Lipora 

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die. 
I know I'm not pronouncing that 

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correctly. 
Alongside hairs. 

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JREA habitat, grasslands, 
meadows, forests, deserts and 

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wetlands diets. 
They eat meat, obviously. 

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No no I'm kidding. 
They're herbivores. 

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They eat grass, leafy weeds, 
vegetables, bark, things like 

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that. 
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concerned, rabbits are hind gut 
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digest food in the large 
intestine and seek large 

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intestine and seek them. 
They eat their own soft 

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droppings called sisotropes to 
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They have long ears for 
detecting predators, strong hind

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legs for hopping and kicking, 
and excellent vision. 

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Domesticated rabbits can be kept
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or show and then common breeds 
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the Netherland dwarf, the 
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They require a lot of space, a 
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regular social interaction. 
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domestic rabbits Wild rabbits 
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as Warrens and are more 
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Domestic rabbits can be litter 
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Which is true. 
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a rabbit. 
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he had he had rabbits that were 
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So that that is that is true. 
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ever see too, by the way, like 
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And I love my cat, but you know,
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litter box, you know, but but I 
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Bunny get into a litter box. 
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OK, so you know, what do 
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What do they symbolize? 
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research. 
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lot of you're going to hear a 
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that they symbolize here. 
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about the big ones. 
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there's actually so much that 
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going to be talking about a few 
of those, like the bigger ones 

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here. 
But according to 

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whatismyspiritanimal.com, the 
rabbit archetype is anything but

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a fuzzy Bunny, lightweight in 
the world of animal symbolism. 

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In many myths and legends, 
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heaven, the earth, and the 
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They're a potent emblem of 
shamanic journeys and may even 

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be called up to monitor those 
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In fact, when viewing the 
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the creature represents a a 
prayerful life as it puts its 

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paws in a prayer position each 
time they wash their faces and 

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the earth plane. 
The rabbit is a sound navigator,

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having perceptions that pilot 
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Because of this, the rabbit 
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and their psychic powers. 
It also reflects on those 

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moments when we must hop into 
unfamiliar surroundings using 

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our inner light for direction. 
Will Max. 

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Rabbits are creatures of the 
earth living close to the ground

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where they can easily hide. 
The meaning here can be twofold.

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Either you need camouflage or 
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among peers. 
Beyond this, turn your attention

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to communing with the earth 
element and getting grounded. 

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Rabbits are trickster. 
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they know their enemy and remain
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movements to outwit them when 
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Rabbits are not predictable in 
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They are no straight lines. 
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Rather, they zip and zag, which 
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erratic movement doesn't work. 
The rabbit or hare, like a 

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skilled shapeshifter, disappears
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environment via camouflage. 
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a small hideaway for a tidy 
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So this crafty critter has the 
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directional awareness, 
cleverness, planning and keen 

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senses. 
Rabbit spiritual meaning is 

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often associated with lunar 
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From Celtic traditions to the 
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The man in the moon is a rabbit.
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the moon are similar to that of 
the rabbit spirit. 

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So in reading that I instantly 
think of Will and how he was 

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able to hide from the demagogue 
in in season 1. 

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but I believe that we are going 
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Season 5. 
Just hold through flashbacks. 

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But yeah, I mean, I think the 
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me there is you, the rabbit 
slipping into a small hideaway 

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for a tidy retreat. 
I mean, that's what they do. 

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And I think that's absolutely 
what Will did. 

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You know, he even though we did 
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actually doing these things in 
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eventually found his way to 
castle buyers in the Upside Down

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and he hid there, kept him safe.
I mean, he also stayed in a long

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time in the buyer's house in the
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So we'll definitely a rabbit in 
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But, and also you know what 
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Joyce says to Hopper in season 1
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So there you go, some more 
symbolism. 

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This is from 
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Rabbit symbolize sensitivity. 
Rabbits are sensitive animals, 

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and consistent with a study from
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Physiology, they can process up 
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have. 
Additionally, their big ears are

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designed to pick up various 
sounds, especially from 

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predators. 
Moreover, they have clear 

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visions, and their round eyes 
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one look. 
Because of these features, 

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rabbits are considered symbols 
of sensitivity in real life. 

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This animal is encouraging you 
to not be too desensitized. 

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Instead, it reminds you to live 
culturally and use your senses 

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as well. 
If you are sensitive, use this 

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behavior to show empathy to 
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Help others become connected in 
this world full of 

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disconnection. 
Rabbits also symbolizes 

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gentleness. 
Aside from being sensitive, 

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bunnies are also gentle. 
They remind you to handle your 

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life and other people around you
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They try to tell you to help 
others fight their battles. 

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At the same time, rabbits also 
encourage you to be gentle with 

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yourself. 
If there are days when you feel 

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discouraged and you start to 
hate yourself for this, seek 

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help from help from others to 
avoid self harm. 

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Yeah, that's number one. 
That's really good advice #2 I 

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think of 11 here, especially 11 
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Now, I mean that, you know, I 
like 11. 

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I love 11. 
She's my favorite character. 

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But I mean, definitely as the 
show has progressed and she is a

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person has progressed other than
I'd say maybe like in season 4, 

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but definitely in seasons two 
and three, we do kind of see her

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not being that, you know, big 
doe eyed, gentle rabbit like 

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figure as she was in season 1. 
But nevertheless, I still think 

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that she's a very gentle 
character, you know, and I think

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she still possesses those 
qualities. 

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And then they, the rabbits 
symbolize fertility. 

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I don't, I think that one's a 
very self-explanatory. 

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I mean, they love to love to 
have babies, The rabbits, the 

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rabbits do. 
And they also symbolize haste. 

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This is a big one in the movie 
Alice in Wonderland, when Alice 

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crossed paths with the rabbit, 
the latter reclaims that he's 

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late. 
You know, I'm late. 

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I'm late, I'm late. 
Eventually, the rabbit sprinted 

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as fast as he could to enter the
hole he was trying to get to. 

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This behavior of the rabbit 
signifies haste. 

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It also represents quick 
thinking to resolve issues fast,

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but in an accurate way. 
However, keep in mind that haste

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can be negative too. 
And the story of the tortoise 

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and the hare. 
The former's haste abilities 

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made him lose the game. 
This means that being too 

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confident with your skills 
without being cautious can drag 

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you down. 
So always be careful because 

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your haste can go to waste when 
you do not use it accordingly. 

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Now this makes me think, you 
know, maybe of Mike and of 

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Nancy, like, I think I mean 
Mike, it's been on like 

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throughout the show. 
He's throughout the entirety of 

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the show. 
He like he's he's always late. 

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He's never on time to anything. 
And we see in episode 1 of 

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Season 4 that he is late for 
school. 

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He's not even dressed yet. 
And and Nancy comes in, you 

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know, hitting the hitting the 
wristband watch, you know, dirty

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after, you know, and you know, 
I'm late, I'm late, I'm late, 

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you know, and again, very 
interesting these two with their

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rabbits and their haste, just 
very, very interesting in the 

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show there. 
And then rabbits also represent 

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or symbolize new beginnings. 
During springtime, the earth is 

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renewed, meaning that it is full
of life. 

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According to a study from Italy,
this period also is also the 

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breeding period for rabbits. 
Thus, they become associated 

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with new beginnings or rebirth 
in life. 

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If you feel that you do not know
where to start, always remember 

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that just like bunnies, there 
will always be a new day to 

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begin again. 
Again. 

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Another very interesting thing, 
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March. 
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when, you know, Henry slash 
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sequences as well. 
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know, all this symbolism 
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be a new day to begin again. 
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a core part of the messaging of 
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that it wants to send. 
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symbolism. 
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two more prevalent that have 
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Things. 
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whatismyspiritanimal.com and get
all of the religious symbols 

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that the rabbit symbolize. 
It's very fascinating to read. 

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rabbit is more secular as a 
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be associated with Easter. 
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the observations of Jesus 
Christ, but of the later changes

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in morphing that occurred 
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cultures. 
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Jesus and the rabbit can stem 
from the rabbit living 

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underground, similar to Jesus 
time spent in an underground 

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tomb. 
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rebirth, infertility, an 
allusion to Christ. 

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between the rabbit and the 
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In reading In reading the New 
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ruminant and considered unclean,
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of Christianity, the rabbit 
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positive attributes like purity,
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Meanwhile, Native American 
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the rabbit as an ingenious and 
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as manabazo or great hare. 
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legends, sometimes with the 
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Some stories relate that the 
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brought humans fire, and even 
taught shamans how to enact 

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sacred rites. 
The hare spirit is a good animal

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ally when learning ritual forms.
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the rabbit is that of a fear 
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Lore suggests when when a rabbit
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that thing until noticed in 
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fear. 
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is that calling or focusing on 
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foster attracting that very 
thing in your life. 

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The Algonquin tribes had a hero 
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the plants and animals of 
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His duty was to be a practical 
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He could shapeshift into the 
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There is also a rabbit deity, 
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Macabo created the world and 
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wished. 
He gave life to dead rabbits, 

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leading many Algonquins to claim
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spirit. 
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rabbit, also known as the desert
hare, embodied fertility, 

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predicted rainfall, and 
attracted prosperity. 

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Again, many stories show this 
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pocketful of tricks. 
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The most prominent of these was 
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rabbit. 
Cocopelli appears in rituals, 

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dances, and many folk tales. 
Cocopelli can bring fertilizing 

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rain and guide brave hunters. 
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rabbit clans include the Shawnee
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So some rabbit colors and their 
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According to 
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White rabbit is supposed to be 
the most fortunate. 

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They aren't. 
They are an omen of having great

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choices ahead. 
Any of them can boost your inner

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power, sense of love, and 
overall compassion. 

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In Europe, saying white rabbit 
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day of a new month brings 
blessings, but you must be 

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diligent and put forth honest 
effort for things to move ahead 

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successfully. 
Dreaming of a white rabbit 

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usually has some tie to your 
love life. 

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Why indicates you are in a 
happy, peaceful space. 

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Your spiritual connection 
continues to grow without one 

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overshadowing another. 
Also, just as it appears out of 

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a hat, the White Rabbit portends
a pleasant surprise. 

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Meanwhile, the Black Rabbit 
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anxiety, fear, depression, and 
feeling as if you are stuck with

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no way out. 
You must determine the source of

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these feelings and figure out a 
resolution. 

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It is right in front of you. 
You've been over thinking. 

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Because the Black Rabbit can 
represent stillness, perhaps you

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must still your mind in 
meditation for that ha ha 

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moment. 
Alternatively, perhaps you have 

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swallowed your words for too 
long. 

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Let them out. 
Dreaming of a black rabbit 

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speaks about your fear of being 
intimate. 

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The reason may vary, but for 
most it's a feeling of not being

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good enough. 
It's time to re say it. 

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Reassess yourself and see the 
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Gray rabbits represent 
uncertainties and things that 

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hide between the proverbial 
lines in a dream. 

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It reveals someone close to you 
as being dishonest and 

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manipulative. 
Before making a decision, make 

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sure it's your decision and not 
a contrived 1. 

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Brown is the color of rich soil.
When you plant the right seeds, 

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they begin to grow. 
Something big starts, so don't 

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overlook the little things. 
If you follow the signs given to

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you by animal spirits and the 
teachers, like the brown rabbit,

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you will discover something 
wondrous. 

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In particular, your magical life
expands along with your psychic 

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talents. 
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these colors of the rabbits 
because the white rabbit and the

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brown rabbit, although I suppose
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depending on how you look at it,
have been the ones that have 

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kind of been have come up the 
most and strange for things. 

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Now, I know that we've never 
seen a white rabbit on screen, 

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but as I'll talk a little bit 
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have seen references, you know, 
in displayed in and the set 

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design with the white rabbit and
in the show. 

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And whereas with the brown 
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rabbits on screen and they've 
been being murdered. 

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And yeah, I, I think you know 
what they, what the, the article

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says about the brown rabbit. 
Well, let's just say I feel 

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like, based on that, I feel like
this is so, you know, so geared 

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towards maybe Nancy, Jonathan, 
Steve, but definitely Nancy and 

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Jonathan who, who do tend to 
overlook the little things, if 

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you hadn't noticed, especially 
Nancy, she loves to get right 

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there at the heart of the story,
but sometimes she can't always 

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see the forest for the trees. 
She just overlooks the little 

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things. 
And so a big a big work that the

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rabbit, specifically the right 
the White Rabbit has been in, 

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which is also a big influence 
and inspiration for Stranger 

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Things is Alice in Wonderland, 
the Alice in Wonderland Rabbit. 

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So most of you are aware of 
Alice in Wonderland and the 

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Rabbit that's in there. 
The author of that book, Lewis 

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Carroll, carefully wove the 
source the story of Alice's 

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Adventures in Wonderland in 
1865. 

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The Rabbit is the first 
character Alice meets. 

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She followed it down the hole 
into Wonderland Rabbit. 

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The rabbit always seems to be in
a hurry and nervous, which is 

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curious since he was a herald of
the Queen of Hearts court. 

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Whenever the rabbit appears in 
the story, you know something is

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about to happen. 
Throughout the book, the rabbit 

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is continuously late. 
Nonetheless, he finds himself in

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the middle of fanciful and 
curious circumstances. 

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He acts as a foreshadowing. 
Without giving anything away, 

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the white rabbit unwittingly 
becomes Alice's guide. 

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There are moments when life 
presents you with something 

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outlandish and mystifying. 
You may wish to follow Alice's 

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example and embrace the moment 
to see where the rabbit hole 

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takes you. 
Now, you know, as it relates to 

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Stranger Things, and we're 
talking about rabbits here and 

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specifically to this, the rabbit
and Alice in Wonderland. 

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Will is the first one we see in 
this instance. 

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We see him basically go down the
rabbit hole. 

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He gets taken to another world, 
the Upside Down. 

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But then, you know, we also see 
11, you know, we're first 

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introduced to her and the pilot 
episode and the song White 

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Rabbit is playing and one of 
those scenes. 

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And you know, I think as it 
relates to 11 and her being 

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paralleled here with Alice in 
Wonderland, I think of at the 

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end of the pilot episode when 
Mike, Dustin and Lucas come upon

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11 in the woods as pouring rain.
I think this is for Mike. 

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This is this was something 
outlandish and mystifying. 

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And maybe he did go down a 
rabbit hole himself with 11. 

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It didn't because, you know, 
rabbit holes, they symbolized 

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like distraction. 
And he got distracted initially 

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from the mission, which was to 
go find Will. 

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He got distracted by 11. 
Now, the good thing is that they

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did find or they stumbled upon 
11 because she did lead them to 

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Will and eventually was able to,
you know, get him out. 

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But yeah, and I'm not saying 
like I think that Mike and 11's 

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relationship is all a lot of BS.
I don't, I think that I think 

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they generally do care about 
each other and do love each 

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other. 
I mean, I, I know Mike hasn't 

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said it, but I do think he loves
her. 

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He's just just has a hard time 
saying it is all. 

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And I would hate for 11 to end 
up being his rabbit hole and 

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something go bad that like 
that's, that's one of my biggest

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fears going into season 5, 
especially with with Mike and 

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11:00. 
So, you know, I talked about a 

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little bit about dead rabbits a 
little bit. 

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So what does it mean when you 
see a dead rabbit? 

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So coming across a dead creature
is always disconcerting, 

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concerning, but it can be a 
message to you from the 

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spiritual world. 
Most obviously, seeing a dead 

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rabbit acts as a reminder that 
life is short. 

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You should always be present and
appreciate every moment. 

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Finding a dead rabbit speaks of 
transformation. 

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You must leave the past behind 
and become ready for the next 

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adventure. 
If your discovery was in the 

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oddest of places, you've strayed
somehow and need to return to 

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the well trodden path in order 
to initiate change. 

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A dead rabbit can reflect your 
own fears of mortality, or any 

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fear really. 
No earthly representative of 

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animal spirits can live forever.
It is simply life circle coming 

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around again. 
Put your past life, past 

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negativity and past insecurity 
behind you. 

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Start something wholly 
unexpected. 

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Wonders await. 
If someone you know died 

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recently, The Dead Rabbit might 
be a way of telling you 

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everything's fine. 
Treasure your memories, but move

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on. 
When you take positive steps 

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forward, the universe applause 
the progress. 

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Have you been overly pessimistic
as of late? 

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The Dead Rabbit advises you to 
turn your frown upward. 

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Try seeing the brighter side of 
life. 

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When you do, you'll see many 
details that otherwise deluded 

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you. 
Now's the time to get your 

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answers. 
When you see a dead rabbit, 

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pause and think about those 
things to which you give your 

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time and energy. 
Do they add value? 

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If not, it's time to reconsider 
your priorities. 

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Sometimes a dead rabbit implies 
you've let creative creativity 

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stall out. 
Find something that inspires 

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you. 
No one expects perfection. 

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Perfection overnight. 
Work on the very human flaws you

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have when it comes to 
originality and innovation. 

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Take a pilgrimage inward and 
turn your perceived weaknesses 

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into strengths in your career. 
Encountering a dead rabbit means

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you've missed some opportunities
that would have helped you 

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greatly. 
To avoid playing financial catch

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up all the time. 
Keep your eyes keen. 

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Don't let your productivity drop
or become complacent. 

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Renew your sense of purpose. 
Something's gone wrong and 

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seeing a dead rabbit only 
confirms that reality. 

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Figure out where the problems 
began. 

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Ponder the key buttons that lead
that led to disruption. 

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There is a way to fix things, 
just don't be afraid to return 

454
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,360
to the drawing table if 
necessary. 

455
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,240
Dreaming of a sick rabbit 
employs you to pay more 

456
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,880
attention to self-care. 
Rabbits are prone to all manners

457
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,600
of sickness and can become I'll 
without warning. 

458
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,640
Pay attention to your health. 
That includes mental start 

459
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,440
making steps that support 
well-being. 

460
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:26,840
So in that I think of Nancy in 
Season 4 when Vecna, you know, 

461
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,600
gives her his flashbacks and she
sees him as a young child 

462
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760
killing the rabbit. 
I mean, I know at that moment he

463
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,800
was just showing her things that
had happened in his past. 

464
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240
But I think maybe from the 
show's perspective, from the 

465
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,800
writers perspective there, maybe
that was, you know, to let Nancy

466
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,600
and the audience maybe, you 
know, as a foreshadowing thing 

467
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400
of, you know, what's to come. 
And Hawkins, maybe not for Nancy

468
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,800
specifically, but you know, 
what's to come. 

469
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,560
But also, I think of what the 
article says about a dead rabbit

470
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,440
can reflect your own fears and 
morality or any fear. 

471
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,800
And we have to go back and like 
we've been doing our script 

472
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,480
series, our script breakdown 
series. 

473
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,880
And in Chapter 7, the massacre 
at Hawkins Lab, when the episode

474
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,160
in which this this all 
transpires, you know what 

475
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,080
happens before Magnet completely
takes Nancy in? 

476
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,960
He pulls her down into that, 
into Steve's pool on the Upside 

477
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Down and gives her a glimpse of 
dad Barb, who we've kind of been

478
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440
made to fill since, you know, 
Season 3 and throughout Season 

479
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,240
4. 
Like, you know, that's the thing

480
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,240
of Nancy's past. 
But clearly, Nancy still very 

481
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520
much thinks of Barb and still 
lives the guilt. 

482
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720
And so I think this is 
reflecting Nancy's, you know, 

483
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,040
this rabbit also extended 
reflection of Nancy's fears, 

484
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,040
maybe of mortality, but maybe 
her fears of what happened in 

485
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,520
the past and not being able to 
let go and move on. 

486
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,560
So rabbits a scene in Stranger 
Things. 

487
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,760
So we're going to finally get 
into it. 

488
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,200
So in Season 1, in our first 
ever encounter with 11, the song

489
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,720
White Rabbit by Jefferson 
Airplanes is playing in the 

490
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,080
background. 
And when she's in Benny's Diner 

491
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,600
or Benny's Burgers, the lyrics 
play it. 

492
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,880
And if you go chasing rabbits 
and you know, you're going to 

493
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,720
fall. 
Now, this in terms of Season 1 

494
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,120
context, could have been like 
basically telling Brenner 

495
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,040
because this when the this 
needle drive happens, when 

496
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,880
Brenner and his squad are coming
to get her, but she's already, 

497
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,360
you know, left. 
I mean, well, she she kills some

498
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,640
of the squad and then she 
leaves. 

499
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,520
You know, this could be like, 
you know, laughing at Brenner 

500
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,960
and don't like, yeah, you know, 
look, look, what's going to 

501
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960
happen to you? 
Keep chasing rabbits, you know, 

502
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,120
But it's also been talked about 
how this song is about drugs in 

503
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,280
the 60s and particularly psycho 
psychedelic drugs which were 

504
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,600
heavily used in MK Ultra 
experiments, which is what 11 

505
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:18,080
came, you know, spawned from. 
And then while visiting the room

506
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,040
intended for 11, her mother's 
house, the White Rabbit from 

507
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,160
Alice in Wonderland is 
prominently displayed according 

508
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,440
to an article on the 
vigilantcitizen.com, which side 

509
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,240
note this article, I'll link it 
in the show description for this

510
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480
episode. 
You need to read this article. 

511
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,640
It is, it is fantastic. 
It's actually from 2016, like 

512
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,160
right after season 1 dropped. 
So the writer doesn't know at 

513
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,760
that time what's going to happen
in the show, but is a fantastic 

514
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,800
article. 
Highly recommend you read it has

515
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,080
a lot on there, especially about
MK Ultra and government stuff 

516
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,000
and the government side of the 
show. 

517
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Again, I'll link that for you so
you can read it. 

518
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680
But again, it's, it's, it's an 
incredible piece. 

519
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,120
But but anyway, according to the
article on the 

520
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,360
vigilantcitizen.com it is an 
important symbol in the world of

521
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,480
mind control. 
The same way the White Rabbit 

522
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,720
lures Alice into the looking 
class, MK handlers lure slaves 

523
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,280
to the dark side of mind 
control. 

524
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,000
So again, go read that article 
and you will know and learn what

525
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,720
an MK handler was and what the 
writer means there by slaves. 

526
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,920
And then in episode 5, the fleet
of the Acrobat Jonathan reveals 

527
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,160
to Nancy that his dad had took 
him hunting once and told him to

528
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,960
shoot a rabbit but he couldn't 
do it. 

529
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,680
Then the season 4 Alice Creel, 
her name is also Alice OK sees 

530
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,000
dead rabbits and the front lawn 
of the crew house, which we 

531
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,840
later learned was her brother 
Henry killing them using his 

532
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,560
newly found powers and leaving 
them in the yard to scare her. 

533
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,120
Fekna shows us this flashback to
Nancy in Chapter 7 the massacre 

534
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,640
at the Hawkins Lab. 
Then I guess this isn't a direct

535
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,360
thing, but it's something I 
definitely picked up on that in 

536
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,080
chapter 6, the dive, Dustin is 
hopping up and down. 

537
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480
He's excited to go going to 
Mordor. 

538
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,720
He kind of hops up and down in 
that scene at Skull Rock, kind 

539
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,560
of like a that resembles a Bunny
hop. 

540
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720
And then towards the end of 
Chapter 9, the piggyback Nancy 

541
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,120
picks up a stuffed rabbit toy, 
Mr. Rabbit out of a donation 

542
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360
box. 
And when asked if she wants to 

543
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,760
keep him, she says no, that 
he'll be better off in another 

544
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,960
home. 
And it's just very interesting 

545
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,360
that Nancy has two encounters, 
direct encounters with rabbits 

546
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,880
in season 4. 
And like I mentioned earlier in 

547
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,800
episode 1, in season 4 has the 
her on I'm late, I'm late, I'm 

548
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,400
late moment. 
And then, you know, for season 

549
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:03,000
5, sometime last year in 2024 
during filming, Ross Duffer 

550
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,360
posted on his Instagram a 
picture in which we've come to 

551
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,080
the conclusion of the Krill 
house. 

552
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,679
It was behind the scenes photo 
in the crew house. 

553
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,880
There was a picture hanging on 
the wall featuring the Mad 

554
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Hatter's tea party from Alice in
Wonderland with the white Rabbit

555
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920
in the picture. 
So definitely we're going back 

556
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,040
into Wonderland in Season 5. 
And you know, I'll leave you 

557
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,880
with this, you know, as I wrap 
up the Stranger Things portion 

558
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:36,400
Hopper, you know, did you ever 
you ever think about the name 

559
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,120
Hopper rabbits, Hopper, hop 
Hopper. 

560
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Do that what you will. 
So as we've explored in this 

561
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,639
episode, the rabbit is far more 
than just a cute woodland 

562
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,560
creature or seasonal Easter 
icon. 

563
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,760
Across cultures and spiritual 
traditions, the rabbit holds 

564
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,520
deep symbolic weight, 
representing everything from 

565
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,960
sensitivity, cleverness and 
fertility to spiritual rebirth. 

566
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,480
Shamanic journeying and the 
courage to face the unknown. 

567
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,400
Whether it's the trickster tales
of Native American lore, the 

568
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,920
haunting rabbit imagery, the 
haunting rabbit imagery and 

569
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,800
Stranger Things, or the eternal 
white rabbit of Alice in 

570
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,240
Wonderland, this animal spirit 
invites us to stay alert, 

571
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,360
grounded, and open to 
transformation. 

572
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,480
So the next time you see a 
rabbit, real or symbolic, take a

573
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,400
moment to reflect. 
It just might be guiding you to 

574
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,760
your next big leap. 
And I think Stranger Things in 

575
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:43,280
itself maybe is its own self, an
animal spirit that invites us to

576
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,320
stay alert, grounded and open to
transformation because that's 

577
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,600
life. 
It's going to happen. 

578
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,120
So thank you for listening to 
Part 1 of the Rabbit. 

579
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,520
And like I said earlier at the 
at the beginning of today's 

580
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,480
episode, I'll be back next week 
with Part 2 where I'll dive into

581
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,600
the vibrant and magical world of
world of Rainbows. 

582
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,800
Yes, I know it's been a long 
time coming. 

583
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,640
We haven't really talked as much
on this show, on this podcast 

584
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,360
about the rainbows in this show.
Well, that's going to change 

585
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,240
next week because that's what 
I'm going to be talking about. 

586
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,760
So yeah, you won't want to miss 
it. 

587
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,960
So until then, take care. 
And that's our show. 

588
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,440
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589
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,680
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00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,600
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591
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