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It's the Awake Space Astrology 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, Lori Rivers here 
to help you with some 

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inspiration to get those 
aspirations out into the world. 

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Well, you guys know I've been 
playing around with my format 

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and after last week, which was 
one heck of a deal. 

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And if you listen to last week's
podcast, you know, I ended up 

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having to record it in my 
Patreon because there was this 

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tech issue after tech issue and 
I'd spent hours and hours and 

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hours trying to fix things and 
to no avail. 

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And I'm an old hand at doing 
computer things. 

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So I thought, you know, I've 
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I'm going to change things up. 
And that's something I'm going 

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to talk about in the next 
segment is how the Awake Space 

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Astrology podcast is going to 
get changed up. 

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So I'm not pulling crazy hours 
that Take Me Out for the rest of

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the week. 
I'm getting too old for all 

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nighters. 
But it doesn't mean you're not 

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going to get the same great 
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In fact, I think you're going to
like. 

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What I'm going to tell you. 
This week, you may not like what

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I have to tell you about this 
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This week is a really intense 
week that the squares or not 

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squares, the trines continue to 
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And of course, we've seen the 
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especially with Hurricane 
Melissa, but there's been other 

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storms around the world that 
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amount of precipitation. 
I'm going to see that kind of 

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continue on, but on a personal 
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On a personal level, this is a 
brilliant time to transform your

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own mindset, to transform 
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the outside world. 
So we're going to talk a little 

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bit more about that grand water 
trying action as Mars starts to 

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now move into the picture. 
I know I talked about it a 

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little bit last week. 
Let's talk about it some more 

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and then I'm going to introduce 
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Gray by Oscar Wilde. 
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depth look at Oscar Wilde's 
astrology and I'll be reading 

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more than just the preface you 
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I'll be reading from the Picture
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explaining what placements are 
doing what as I read it. 

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You know, because that's a fun 
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At least for me. 
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I've done Edgar Allan Poe and 
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I did Mary Shelley and 
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This year we're taking a look at
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These are all great pieces of 
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astrological game, if you will. 
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about that this week and I'll be
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and why I think that's so 
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much more than labels or 
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It it's so much more. 
We can go so much further than 

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create coping mechanisms and 
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We can truly self realize and 
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know how to leverage what's in 
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And I've spent my life dedicated
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that. 
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this week and I'm excited about 
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I've had my own experiences with
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Jupiter in Cancer in a trying to
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Reworking and rethinking how to 
put information out that I think

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you can use every single week. 
Quick word warning, I'm going to

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get maybe a little spicy in my 
monologue, but not for too long.

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But I, I need to have a chat 
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think we need to open up our 
ears and listen with a little 

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bit more intent. 
So we'll have a chat. 

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You might feel scolded and 
that's on you. 

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All right. 
Get your tea. 

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Get. 
Your coffee, get your magic, get

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your Red Bull, get your whatever
you're drinking, especially your

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H2O. 
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work or we're going to school or
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cooking, grocery shopping, 
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pantry, or if we're folding 
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or taking the pooches to the 
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we're going to do it together. 
And we're going to get perfect 

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parking while we're at it. 
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Well, it's going to be another 
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this is really the beginning of 
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We're at the very beginning of 
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And regardless of what's 
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each one of us can use the 
energy of this week to do 

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remarkable things both in the 
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Our inner world is what we need 
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Most I know you think it's the 
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have the power to make massive 
change as an individual, then we

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have to do the inner work to 
find the strength, the fortitude

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and the resilience to navigate 
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others who are willing to do the
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And one of the things I can say 
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have to stop infantilizing 
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To look for the helpers to 
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helpers and we are adults. 
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to this, you're an adult. 
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listening to this, then do look 
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There are too many people who 
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And whether you think you can or
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you're right. 
We have extraordinary 

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transformational energy going on
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It's something I've been 
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three weeks. 
How can I switch up my own 

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mindset? 
How can I show up differently in

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my service? 
How can I both tend to myself 

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and to those who are attracted 
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Because I'm not here for 
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I am here for those who have 
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those who do not want to hear 
what I have to say and are 

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looking for some pat answered 
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I'm not your podcast. 
Astrology is meant to be used. 

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It is not meant to be a label or
deterministic outcome or to make

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some pat answered self-care 
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Astrology is a framework that 
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who we think we're supposed to 
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to be. 
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in a spectrum of consciousness. 
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of astrology is using our 
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us back. 
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Mercury is blank, or I can't do 
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whatever, or I can't do that 
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these bad things happen to me. 
That's ridiculous and they're 

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excuses. 
I may not feel like an excuse 

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some days, but they are. 
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make the same ones many, many 
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But what I learned was when we 
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energy at hand, we can unlock 
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We can find the confidence 
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challenges. 
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for those who argue for their 
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We know our limitations, each 
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Now is the time to lean into our
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their strengths, so it's just 
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It comes easy to me, as if you 
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The grand trine we have with 
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This week is the time to find 
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fortitude, our strengths, and to
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In my own life, in my 
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change how I deliver information
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This will be the last public 
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hopefully starting next week, 
depending on how recording goes,

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we'll get daily short podcasts 
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something that you can use. 
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If you don't know how to apply 
it over intellectualizing things

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instead of learning how to make 
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Keep you stuck? 
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world. 
I believe that there is a middle

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ground between using our our 
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better things out in the world 
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degree. 
The reality I face is I'm 

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getting older, my vision isn't 
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accommodate myself and not burn 
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The longer episodes will exist 
and they will exist in Patreon 

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for paying members. 
Remember, there are public and 

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free options as well, and I do 
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As a woman of a certain age 
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it is my obligation to give all 
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I believe in reciprocity. 
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still deserves reciprocity, and 
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the things people socialized as 
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doing, and it's been an 
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here. 
To my patrons, I am eternally 

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grateful for your support, your 
love, and your willingness to 

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learn and share and grow and be 
of service to those in the 

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general public who are entitled,
the people who didn't bother to 

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ask, are you OK? 
You missed the podcast for the 

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first time in four years. 
You missed a Monday for the 

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first time in four years. 
Instead it was like, where is 

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it? 
Why aren't you posting it on 

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YouTube? 
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That is rude. 
I don't owe anyone my expertise.

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I choose to give it. 
I, I dealt with some comments 

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and you'll say, Laura, you 
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No, I want you to understand it 
is important, especially those 

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who were socialized during a 
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Those of us who were raised in 
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good girls and be compliant and 
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waves, don't give your energy to
the bullies, to those who had 

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expectations of delivery of 
service with giving nothing in 

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return. 
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I do not owe you my decades of 
study, practice, trial and error

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experimentation on self. 
I do not owe you. 

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I have given things freely and 
willingly, and now I will cut 

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down what goes out to the public
as far as you'll probably get 

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just about the same amount of 
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it will be daily, and it will be
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And the longer, deeper work will
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I will do nothing without 
reciprocity from this movement 

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forward. 
To those of you who want to give

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critique, pick up a mic, write 
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camera, do something before you 
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Because the majority of people 
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armchair experts. 
I have lots of opinions but 

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don't have the guts or temerity 
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without fail. 
So what's going to happen on the

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daily episodes? 
It will still be the Awake Space

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Astrology podcast. 
And yet you're going to get a 

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new series called Using 
Astrology and I think you'll 

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find it very beneficial and. 
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There will be a longer form 
video that goes out to patrons 

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that gives them the true nuts 
and bolts of how to make it work

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and that is exciting to me. 
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Recently there's been a slew of 
people asking me to go on to Sub

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Stack. 
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couple of TikTok lives that I 
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Substack and I'm not happy with 
who is giving money and I'm not 

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going to talk about it here on 
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However, I will not put my time 
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platform when I am on one of the
most inclusive, supportive 

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platforms for people who create 
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game dev, 3D publishing, and 
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I've been involved with Patreon 
since 2020 and I know their 

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values match with my own. 
I have met many members of the 

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team. 
I am A Patreon ambassador 

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doesn't make me a brand 
ambassador so much as I get to 

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test new features and help make 
it better for other people, not 

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just myself. 
It is not just a way to put. 

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Material behind a pay wall. 
There are free and public ways 

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to deliver information. 
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when somebody accused me of 
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American Blueprint, Civics for 
Everyday People, my other 

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podcasts that comes out in 
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Those are public posts. 
You don't even have to put an 

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e-mail in to listen to them, 
it's just easier to curate. 

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Distributing podcasts is not a 
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It takes an inordinate amount of
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That includes politics. 
That includes economics. 

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Educate yourselves. 
I know I'm being a bit terse, 

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uplifting people, helping 
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arrows from people who have not 
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To listen with both ears and 
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matter. 
I will still be of service, but 

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I'm changing how I do it. 
I think you'll probably like it 

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pretty well. 
That the one person who has to 

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be happy with what I do is me. 
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female and you are a woman of a 
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exactly what I'm talking about. 
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wondering, don't over give, 
don't deplete yourself in 

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service. 
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working from an empty cup. 
If you want to be an example, be

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an example with boundaries. 
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this week with that grand trine 
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It's powerful energy, and we can
look at how we're spending our 

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own energy where we're 
frittering it away when the 

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flood of information comes at us
and we're worrying about things 

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we can't do a damn thing about, 
when we're worried about what 

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one more ne'er do. 
Well, POS has to say on some 

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news media, sure, it might be a 
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Can you fix it? 
No. 

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If you can fix it, do something 
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If you can't put your attention 
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serious. 
As we move forward, find your 

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strengths. 
Work from your strengths. 

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Stop infantilizing yourself and 
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people who would so gladly 
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To those who support my work, 
you have my utmost gratitude. 

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To my patrons who make sure what
I do isn't compromised through 

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making brand deals and corporate
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You helped keep this original. 
It may not be the most popular, 

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information, we're going to talk
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It's very uplifting, and we'll 

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If you're looking for someone 
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Mercury, tune your mind to make 
being Neurospacey more of a 

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superpower than you could ever 
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enjoy this interview. 
We'll be talking about how to 

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move with the energy and 
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patterns and how to let go and 
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Again, to my patrons, both free 

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and paid, thank you. 
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Maverick Joyce, they are a 
holistic therapist and coach, 

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and we are going to be talking 
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help people move beyond the 
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Welcome, Maverick. 
How exciting to have you on. 

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Thank. 
You. 

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I'm so excited to be here. 
So tell me, what happens when 

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people get a label, any kind of 
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looking at official diagnosis, 
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What happens to their 
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A lot of times. 
Not every time, but a lot of 

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times. 
Yeah. 

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Well, it's really easy to 
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can mean basically like a 
narrowing of your consciousness.

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And there are so many 
narratives, societal and 

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cultural narratives that we have
around diagnosis and labels and 

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like implicit, like emotional 
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means we're damaged or like, you
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And so it's really easy to get 
sucked into like that. 

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I think you call it the 
transactional consciousness like

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when the. 
Transactional. 

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Yeah, our social cultural 
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setting. 
And when that happens, it just 

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kind of it limits the scope of 
your consciousness, like you 

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can't embody the fullness of 
your shine. 

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Right. 
Because you're so much more than

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that. 
Yeah. 

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It can be a. 
Relief. 

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I mean to have an explanation of
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you are the way you are. 
But after at that point you 

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brought it up before we started 
recording, you were talking 

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about rejection sensitivity and 
and how that inspired you to 

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work with people in a different 
way. 

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Can you tell me a little bit 
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Yeah, Oh my gosh. 
I could go out for days, but 

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there's just a very like 
limiting narrative out, 

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especially like on social media,
especially on TikTok, Like you 

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can really get stuck in this 
kind of loop of how it's like 

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something you have to live with 
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You're never going to heal from 
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There's a lot of narratives 
around there like, oh, you just 

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don't have enough dopamine or, 
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And I think, you know, when we 
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problem instead of like being in
the body and we talked about it 

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in terms of like dopamine or 
serotonin, like, I mean, it's 

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great to like know about that 
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But I, I think you can actually 
pull us away from the solution 

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because like the embodied felt 
like narrative experience. 

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If we're to like narrate how 
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Like this is like ancestral 
memory. 

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This is like ancestral 
inheritances, like this connects

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to white supremacy, you know, 
and like a lot of people don't 

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see that. 
But like these are like survival

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mechanisms of like our ancestors
assimilating to avoid rejection 

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so they could survive at the at 
the root of this is, is that 

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authentic piece like that 
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and I call it embodied desire, 
like finding your yes feeling in

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your body. 
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inspiration of, you know, like 
Audrey Lorde, like black 

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feminism, Dr. Eve Tuck, what 
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Abraham Herrick's like, it's 
this is like a universal 

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spiritual truth that exists that
so many people are tapped into. 

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And if people like really got 
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they would feel that truth. 
Of it too, right that's. 

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What's I focus on? 
When we talk about going deep 

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into ourselves, that's really 
funny you brought that up 

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because I've been thinking a lot
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And we, we are in the afternoon 
on a Sunday, but it has captured

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my consciousness most of the 
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And I, I was sitting there and I
was like, maybe I'm too deep. 

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Not the first time I've thought 
those thoughts. 

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Maybe I'm too deep. 
Maybe I need to lighten this up.

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Maybe I need to be more shallow 
in my explanation of astrology. 

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You know, maybe. 
And yet there's thousands of 

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people who listen. 
But that's due to what it's due 

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to. 
Always been told you're too 

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deep. 
Yeah. 

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Too much, too intense, too deep.
Yeah, and now you've been, you 

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know, both a a compatriot and a 
student of mine for a long time 

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while you were working on 
becoming a therapist. 

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And watching your journey has 
been delightful. 

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Watching you grow, watching you 
have your epiphanies. 

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Nobody has more enthusiasm than 
the maverick. 

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You care so deeply to help 
people connect. 

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Like what? 
How do you know somebody's ready

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to move beyond the label? 
So there are a lot of ways to 

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identify it. 
For me personally, it usually 

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comes through 1st in how a 
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themselves. 
So like if we're having a 

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conversation, the words that 
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tone that comes through with 
that, the energy, like just like

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those subtle body movements that
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And there's also just like for 
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sensitivity is like the clear 
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I just like feel things and like
get intuitive hits to like 

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follow up and ask questions on 
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fruition and clarity. 
So that's how the process works 

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for me. 
That's cool, I was just curious.

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And what about your own journey 
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about this? 
How? 

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Many reasons. 
So I, I've been through 

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rejection sensitivity myself and
I have such a Jupiterian 

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Sagittarius influence chart. 
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important to me. 
And I have a Saj moon and the 

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9th house Venus. 
And Mark, what happened was when

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I had a child, it's just like 
the truth like smacked me in the

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face and I couldn't deny it. 
And that started my, my journey 

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and my avalanche. 
And I just, I noticed as I went 

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through my own journey that like
for me, there was something 

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about getting in the depths, 
getting uncomfortable, sitting 

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with that and then emerging on 
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beauty, you know, like that the 
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after the storm. 
And I just really loved that. 

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It's almost kind of weird to 
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enjoy the discomfort of 
transformation in some way. 

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Like it's like I've trained my 
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discomfort and I've trained my 
brain to like seek the reward of

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transformation like that. 
Like, right, I don't know, 

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dopamine, whatever. 
Right, it is. 

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It's a dopamine that's in body 
electronics. 

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We say love the pain. 
And we don't mean like, oh, pain

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you're the greatest, you know, 
it's, it's yeah. 

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Deep acceptance of the present 
moment regardless of discomfort.

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And it causes immense amounts of
transformation. 

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And we've been kind of trained 
away from that. 

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And let's go back to rejection 
sensitivity because I think it 

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is something everybody has to 
some degree in astrology. 

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It's the 5th house, you know, 
it's where we have risk and 

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reward, where we put ourselves 
out there. 

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And sometimes people like the 
yuck, you're Yum. 

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Sometimes people say you shine 
too bright, you're too much, 

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your passion is is too much. 
And you're usually around the 

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wrong people when that's going 
on. 

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But. 
What do you think? 

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Could be a better conversation 
around rejection sensitivity 

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than the one you brought up 
before the interview. 

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I think focusing on what someone
is desiring in life, they want 

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out of life, focusing on their 
courage and cultivating courage 

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and who they want to be, what 
they want to be like, how do 

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they want to be connected to the
web of life? 

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I think like questions around 
that just start to sort of draw 

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out the healing path forward 
'cause if you stay focused on 

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the damage, you're not going to 
be able to see the solution. 

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So it's finding a way to kind of
like shift that. 

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Like I think you've called it 
like turning the ship, like the 

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focus the ship away from, you 
know, the damage and what's 

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wrong with you 'cause thoughts 
are just like, and I say this 

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all the time, thoughts are just 
like physics, like what happens 

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inside it. 
Just, it's just a mirror. 

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It's just a mirror because like 
things that like anything in 

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motion stays in motion, thoughts
are the same way. 

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So if you are thinking about how
damaged you are and you're 

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thinking about all the things 
that are wrong with you, your 

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thoughts are going to gain 
momentum in that direction. 

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So it's finding ways to like, 
splinter off from that to turn 

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the ship around. 
When I see that, you know, I'm 

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online all the time and I see a 
lot of those things and I see 

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how it stops people from 
experiencing life because of a 

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label. 
And it it does, I have to say it

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makes me feel a little bit sad 
because I think people are being

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robbed of experience. 
Me too. 

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Stopping a ship to turn it 
around is a hell of an endeavor.

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You know, we use it as a 
euphemism, but it, you know, 

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when you're thinking of a big 
cargo ship, it takes a minute to

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put on the brakes. 
It does. 

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So in your coaching program, 
what are some of the ways you're

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going to help people identify 
how to to redirect those 

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thoughts and and what do, what 
do they get out of it for doing 

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that? 
We start with the body. 

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We are so conditioned to be in 
our heads and not in our body. 

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So we spend like the first two 
months just really connecting to

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00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920
the body and understanding how 
the body works, understanding 

453
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,200
sensations like reforming new 
relationship to the body, 

454
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,960
tracking sensations because 
sensations are the language of 

455
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:44,000
the body and the sensations. 
It's like like a tree, I always 

456
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,720
call it like a tree, like your 
roots, that's your body and the 

457
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,320
leaves, what you can see those 
like your thoughts, your 

458
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,360
behaviors, your beliefs. 
And so you need to tend to the 

459
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,280
roots so that like those 
nutrients can go up into the 

460
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,800
leaves and people can see like 
your bright shine. 

461
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Otherwise, you know, and, and 
otherwise that doesn't happen. 

462
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,760
And what does happen is we have 
compliance based education and 

463
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,400
just a very restrictive culture.
And when you're neurodivergent, 

464
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080
especially like those roots 
aren't tended to. 

465
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,640
So then your leaves like, are 
kind of like humbled and they 

466
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,480
don't really unfold and shine. 
And so we started the body and 

467
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:24,520
just really being curious and 
fostering this like culture 

468
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,120
'cause there's a group process 
too. 

469
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,520
So really fostering a culture, 
the group and individual 

470
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,600
sessions that is about 
expansivity, curiosity, 

471
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,440
generosity. 
Like we're thought explorers 

472
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,800
here. 
Like the first thing that comes 

473
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880
out of your mouth, like we don't
have to attach to it rigidly. 

474
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Like that's who we are, what we 
are and what we stand for and 

475
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,600
believe. 
Like it's like, let's, let's 

476
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280
verbally process. 
Cause actually humans verbally 

477
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
process. 
Like we say something and then 

478
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,760
we have to like talk it out to 
like get to where we really 

479
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880
mean. 
And, and you know, in this 

480
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,160
culture, it's like you're judged
like before you can like 

481
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,040
continue your thought process, 
you get stopped and you get 

482
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,360
reprimanded and judged and 
vicious people get vicious. 

483
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520
I'm thinking about online 
specifically, but. 

484
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Oh yeah, because of the 
anonymity. 

485
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Yes, yeah, and like, and who 
knows now too, like the way 

486
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,800
there's so much social 
manipulation and control, like 

487
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,920
there's probably bad actors and 
AI bots and. 

488
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

489
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,760
So it's this program designed 
for people who are 

490
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,440
neurodivergent? 
Yeah, it's kind of like I, I was

491
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,840
thinking about what you said 
about like the anti process that

492
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,040
you have and how it's like 
designed for introverts but 

493
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,760
works for anyone. 
And that's like the same way I 

494
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,920
designed this program like in 
mind for ADHD years and 

495
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
neurodivergent people, but it 
works for anyone. 

496
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,280
It's kind of like that bottoms 
up processing. 

497
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Right, right. 
Yeah. 

498
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,960
I love that so. 
And it's funny because, you 

499
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,600
know, as an older woman where 
all they did when I was a kid, 

500
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,360
they tested your IQ. 
Yeah, my mom had me tested just 

501
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,360
like Sheldon's mom had him 
tested. 

502
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,360
And I just got to be the quirky,
smart girl, right. 

503
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080
Who probably wasn't ever going 
to get married and have a have a

504
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,280
baby or, you know, have a 
boyfriend or any of that because

505
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
that was your litmus test of 
success. 

506
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
I was married twice. 
Thank you very much. 

507
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Don't like it? 
Overachiever. 

508
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Right. 
That was one of the things, yes.

509
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,160
And when, when TikTok blew up 
and, you know, during the 

510
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,840
lockdowns and all of a sudden 
people started talking about the

511
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,200
different ways neurodivergence 
expresses. 

512
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,120
At first, I was a little 
resistant to that because, you 

513
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,480
know, when I was growing up, 
autism was a very narrow 

514
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,520
diagnosis. 
And my mom actually worked at a 

515
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,920
special school supporting 
children with those very, very 

516
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,200
high needs. 
And so my understanding was 

517
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,680
limited. 
But the more people started 

518
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,520
talking about, I was like. 
Yeah. 

519
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:15,560
That kind of describes me. 
Oh, maybe I'm not just the weird

520
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,199
quirky girl that's really smart 
and very verbal because it was 

521
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,480
all considered non verbal. 
Well, what happens if you're 

522
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,360
hyper verbal? 
And so, and you contributed a 

523
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,920
lot in back when we had the 
discord, etcetera. 

524
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,760
You contributed so much to the 
learning on neurodivergence and 

525
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,840
it was like, oh, that whole I 
can't put things in a drawer. 

526
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,679
They cease to exist. 
That's a thing, huh? 

527
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,159
And, you know, my dad's exactly 
like that. 

528
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,679
It was liberating as an older 
person to go. 

529
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,400
I'm not just weird, you know? 
And luckily I came to those 

530
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:02,080
understandings with enough work 
and therapies and modalities 

531
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,280
under my belt not to become 
overly attached, and I could use

532
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,680
it more as a liberation agent. 
But I do worry about younger 

533
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,880
people who haven't had the time.
And by younger, he could be 20 

534
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,160
years younger than me. 
I'm at that age where everybody,

535
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,120
like I used to get so mad in my 
30s. 

536
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,840
Like, why do these people treat 
me like a child? 

537
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,240
Because you look like you do. 
Everybody looks like they're my 

538
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:31,200
children and my children are 
grown, but I still see babies. 

539
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,120
It's a perception thing. 
You'll see it someday, but I've 

540
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,760
always. 
Started to see it with 20 year 

541
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,120
olds so. 
Right. 

542
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,920
You're like way, you're 20 
really, you infant and it's not 

543
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
it's just so cute. 
You contributed greatly to my 

544
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,640
understanding, which I really, 
really appreciated because 

545
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,920
anytime anybody puts a learning 
material up, I'm like, oh, let 

546
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,040
me learn more about this so I 
don't misspeak or I can correct 

547
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,760
how I speak about things. 
I worry about young people 

548
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,800
though, because they they don't 
have the same access to 

549
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:10,160
resources in the same way that 
that I did it or if you know, 

550
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,800
there's so much keeping people 
stuck right now. 

551
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Yes. 
What would you say to encourage 

552
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,520
somebody to explore how to flip 
that script? 

553
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Just be curious, question 
everything. 

554
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,160
And that's like a big part of 
this program is critical 

555
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,800
thinking, because critical 
thinking is one of those things 

556
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,120
that has been systematically 
removed from schooling. 

557
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,800
Because when you think 
critically, then you are a 

558
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,440
threat to the status quo. 
And the billionaires don't like 

559
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,960
that. 
That's another part of it. 

560
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,120
I, I took part of this 
methodology from one of my 

561
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,720
teachers, Doctor Jim Fook, 
Critical Reflections. 

562
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,040
And I'm using that in part of 
the group processes on an 

563
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160
individual. 
So again, we're like taking that

564
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,120
dance of like individual and 
collectivist and we're putting 

565
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,440
it together again, 'cause 
they're dance partners that have

566
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,200
been isolated. 
And there's something else I was

567
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,880
going to say along the line. 
Oh, so like if you're not, so if

568
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,000
you're just listening to this 
and you're like, oh, well, 

569
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,600
critical thinking, what does 
that mean? 

570
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,960
What kind of questions do I ask?
One of my favorite, like 

571
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440
critical thinking kind of 
questions to ask is where does 

572
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,320
that come from? 
Like when you have a thought or 

573
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,800
a belief or a reaction to 
something, pause, breathe into 

574
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,440
your body and ask where does 
that come from? 

575
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:36,640
That's a powerful question. 
Yeah, before we hit record, you 

576
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,520
mentioned something about the 
rugged individualism that people

577
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:49,320
are vilifying isn't correct. 
It's toxic individualism versus 

578
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,760
being self actualized. 
Talk about how self 

579
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,560
actualization isn't toxic. 
Yeah. 

580
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:05,880
So self actualization is this 
deep connection to yourself and 

581
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,680
it's and it's a journey. 
Like when I say self 

582
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520
actualization. 
Yeah, self actualization. 

583
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,360
I'm not talking about like a 
place you arrive at and never 

584
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,200
leave this. 
It is an ongoing process and 

585
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,000
journey. 
It is something that you return 

586
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,760
to. 
It's like a, it's like a prayer 

587
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,560
to yourself, you know? 
And that's beautiful. 

588
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Yeah. 
It is. 

589
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,800
Yes, and it is so important 
because when you are lining up 

590
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,880
with your sole self, then you 
can align, you can show up for 

591
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:49,640
the collective in a way that is 
aligned with clarity in your 

592
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,960
actions and your thoughts. 
There is just this can be kind 

593
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,240
of hard to describe, but there's
just like this knowing and 

594
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,640
everyone experiences it 
differently. 

595
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,160
But part of self actualization 
is that connecting through the 

596
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520
body because all of your 
different bodies interface in 

597
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,720
the physical body. 
So your spiritual body or 

598
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:14,920
emotional body or mental body, 
they all connect through the 

599
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,040
physical body. 
And so when you get hasn't in 

600
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,760
your physical body, that's when 
you start on that path of self 

601
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,440
actualization. 
And as you go further down that 

602
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,320
path, you just you get this, 
this knowing this feeling, the 

603
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,880
sense of when you are aligned 
and when you show up in Group 

604
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,120
spaces and community and 
collected the spaces like that, 

605
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,000
then you are like basically 
radiating, radiating outwards 

606
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,120
like a sun. 
You basically, you're basically 

607
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,120
your inner sun is shining 
instead of like, instead of 

608
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,880
getting trapped in like a ozone 
layer and like then just like 

609
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,840
like pollution or gases are 
coming off, you know, it's. 

610
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Right, right, right. 
You're able to be expansive in 

611
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040
yourself, in community. 
Yeah. 

612
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Being in community doesn't mean 
a denying of self. 

613
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,160
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

614
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,920
And and I think in community 
spaces that are trying, we have 

615
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,920
so many good people who are 
trying. 

616
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:26,280
But if we were to describe 
community, people have trouble 

617
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,880
describing that, what that 
actually means. 

618
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,280
Then whether they mean 
agreement, absolute agreement, 

619
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,760
unity consciousness, which I 
think is like the Borg and Star 

620
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,360
Trek. 
It's OK to disagree in 

621
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,720
community. 
It's how we do it together, 

622
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,480
right? 
Yeah. 

623
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:50,160
And being individuals, each 
little molecule makes an atom, 

624
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
and they're different. 
Yeah. 

625
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,760
They're celebrating the 
diversity. 

626
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,600
I love that you're bringing that
in now as somebody who's been a 

627
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,880
self actualizer for many, many, 
many, many years. 

628
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,560
And you're very right. 
We are never done. 

629
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,040
It's not a destination and 
there's always a surprise around

630
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,160
the corner. 
One of the things I've noticed 

631
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,640
with people who've tried to do 
this alone is there can be stuck

632
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,120
points and it can be some 
awareness, can be painful. 

633
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,080
Discover on your own. 
Yeah. 

634
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,240
I'm almost sensing your program 
is like having a spotter and a 

635
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,480
Sherpa and a guide, you know, as
a coach, being able to bring 

636
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,360
people through some of those 
experiences. 

637
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,880
Can you talk about that? 
The process is really like 

638
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,680
having someone hold your hand 
while you go deep so you can 

639
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,080
excavate without, you know, 
being terrified about what 

640
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,880
you'll find. 
That's. 

641
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Beautiful. 
Because what I found is that 

642
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,600
what we're most terrified about 
is usually only scary to us. 

643
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:04,840
Like the things we have shame 
about or guilt about or are 

644
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,440
terrified to experience are like
other people see that 

645
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:17,640
differently and us. 
And so it's kind of like, I 

646
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,480
mean, JK Rowling is a turf. 
We don't like her. 

647
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:28,680
And also the the Dementor 
example like is just so perfect 

648
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,320
for this like that, like how it 
how it do. 

649
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Yeah, yeah. 
And you have to like stay steady

650
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,040
and calm and face your fear. 
And that I think hopefully I'm 

651
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,080
remembering that correctly. 
Chocolate. 

652
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Yeah. 
Chocolate helps. 

653
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,960
Yeah, which is. 
Which is funny too, because 

654
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,440
chocolate helps ground you. 
But. 

655
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,760
It does. 
Yeah, yeah, I was like 

656
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,640
channeling when she wrote this. 
I think she did actually. 

657
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,080
I got that since when I was 
reading the books when they 

658
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,120
first came out and I was like, 
she's channeling this, which I 

659
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,960
think is really funny because to
her it's a made-up story and 

660
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,680
yeah, there's lots of 
problematic things. 

661
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,520
It was actually very reflective 
of British culture, having gone 

662
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,200
to university in England. 
All of it was very familiar to 

663
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:24,240
me as far as the biases and the 
social problems and the labeling

664
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,400
of people and you know, whatever
it was, whether it was bodies or

665
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
races or whatever, but the UK is
like. 

666
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,560
That. 
So to me, it was a reflection of

667
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:42,360
British boarding school and with
Magic didn't invent some of 

668
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,240
those concepts. 
And not that I'm an apologist 

669
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,800
for her, but she did channel a 
lot of stuff in there and I 

670
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,280
think it would be good. 
Instead of a wholesale rejection

671
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,120
of that work, look at what it 
did teach you, especially when 

672
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,040
it comes to organizing right 
now. 

673
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,880
So because I was like, she gave 
a primer. 

674
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Because see, I saw, I saw the, 
the the. 

675
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,160
Authoritarianism coming down the
Pike back in the 90s, so. 

676
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,560
I was like, people will be able 
to organize because they read 

677
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,880
this book as kids and. 
Then. 

678
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,640
She did The Dirty of being, you 
know, obnoxious and bigoted. 

679
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,040
But don't conflate the two. 
Yes, you know, don't complete 

680
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,360
the two. 
You can reject that and remember

681
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:35,200
there was some good stuff in the
work when and that's go for. 

682
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,320
It that we do in the program, 
that's part of the work we do in

683
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,840
the program, like don't throw 
the baby out with the bathwater.

684
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,080
Because so often when we think 
about our experiences, we judge 

685
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,160
them all bad, all good, all or 
nothing thinking. 

686
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,840
Which whenever we have all or 
nothing thinking, it's a sign 

687
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,240
that we're in our survival 
instincts, that we are thinking 

688
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:53,960
of things through our we're 
looking at things through our 

689
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,800
trauma. 
And and so that's the cool thing

690
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,440
about critical reflections is 
that ask these questions that 

691
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,840
get you to look at your hidden 
assumptions and biases and kind 

692
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,480
of like unearth them a little 
bit and like dig them up and get

693
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,440
to move them around and reshape 
them in ways that fit you. 

694
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,280
That's really helpful. 
Yeah. 

695
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,280
Oh, I love that. 
So when does your program start?

696
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,240
Tell us more. 
It is going to start the first 

697
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,760
weekend in December. 
I think it's the 5th or the 6th.

698
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,640
I'm going to start with a group 
call and everyone starts out 

699
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,240
with like a three hour intensive
first to really like get a deep 

700
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:38,880
foundation established and like 
a a care plan kind of structure 

701
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,920
established. 
And there's going to be 

702
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,080
individual calls and group calls
that happen group calls twice a 

703
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,600
month. 
Individual is going to be 

704
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,480
really, it's like you have you 
have this many hours to use and 

705
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,880
you can arrange them as you 
like. 

706
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,800
So if one hour works for your 
brain, great. 

707
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,920
If you like the intensive style,
you can do it that way. 

708
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,120
And then asynchronous support 
too, because as an ADHD year, I 

709
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200
love me some asynchronous 
support. 

710
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,480
Like I love the voice memos back
and forth randomly the text. 

711
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,720
So all of that is available for 
like, if like I don't like, I 

712
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,920
say lightly emergency, you know,
like not, not a real emergency, 

713
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,400
but like an emotional urgency 
kind of feeling comes up or 

714
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,000
questions or I forgot to mention
some session. 

715
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,080
Yeah, yeah. 
And there'll be an online like 

716
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,200
community too that'll have like 
different prompts to help you 

717
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,800
tune your consciousness. 
So like focusing on 

718
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,080
celebrations, like things that 
happen during the week, like 

719
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,280
what you want to happen it. 
Neurologically, that's so 

720
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,200
important. 
It is. 

721
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,960
That's exactly the way we start 
mystery school meetings with 

722
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,880
celebrations to attune the group
100% because if you don't, 

723
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,600
people will just get in the 
habit of because we have the 

724
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,640
habit of what I call bitching 
and moaning that that's part of 

725
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,440
our habit in society. 
And celebration isn't 

726
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,600
superficial. 
It it is so important. 

727
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,480
So where can we find this? 
I know you're going to give me 

728
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,360
everything in the show notes, 
but so I'm just going to recap 

729
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,840
real quick. 
You've got it's a group program.

730
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,280
It lasts for how long? 
Six months. 

731
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,440
Six months, that's great. 
That is a great time because it 

732
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:30,480
takes a minimum of 12 weeks to 
make any kind of shift and 

733
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,280
that's neuroscience. 
So six months you're really 

734
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,360
getting people. 
So six month group coaching 

735
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,560
program that starts people from 
the bottom up rooting, 

736
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,800
grounding, integrating and 
learning to cover. 

737
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,080
Spirit too. 
Yeah. 

738
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Yeah, we get spirit in there. 
Intuition I bring in. 

739
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,720
I bring in astrology too, a 
little bit like in an esoteric 

740
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,000
way, but more as like part of 
the frameworks I use. 

741
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,960
I don't like give people 
sessions. 

742
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,800
Right, Yeah, you're, you're a 
very good astrology student. 

743
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,160
So I, I feel confident in, in 
your competency. 

744
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:14,680
Maverick's been been in my 
sphere for years now, what, like

745
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,320
4 years? 
Yeah. 

746
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,600
Yeah. 
That's. 

747
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Crazy. 
And I'm really excited about 

748
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,360
where you're taking this. 
And so what's the, what's the 

749
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,680
web address? 
And I know you'll give it to me 

750
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,000
and we'll put it in the show 
notes. 

751
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:33,760
But yes, so it is if you I have 
an application for the program, 

752
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,800
just cuz, you know, I wanna make
sure everyone like is gonna be a

753
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,320
good match for each other and 
also, you know, just making sure

754
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,560
that I'm not taking anyone 
outside of my like scope of 

755
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,600
practice as a coach too, right? 
Perfect, Yeah. 

756
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,400
Yep, Yep. 
So yeah. 

757
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,320
Ethics. 
Yeah, ethics. 

758
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,160
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

759
00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:02,040
So that page is it's unlock your
innergenius.neuroclearwellness.com.

760
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:11,040
So yeah, yeah, and yeah. 
And I mean, you can also follow 

761
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:16,720
me on Instagram too, the dot 
neuro queer dot therapist, and 

762
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:18,720
I'll have all the information 
there too, so. 

763
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,880
Right, so it is a safe queer 
space as well, Yeah. 

764
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,680
Yeah, it's important. 
Expansive, inclusive, and 

765
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520
plural. 
Beautiful. 

766
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,320
Thank you. 
I am so excited to have you in 

767
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,840
here. 
Watching your journey over the 

768
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,240
last several years has been a 
great privilege and you have 

769
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:44,560
taught me probably as much as 
I've taught you, which is always

770
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,120
the benefit of coaching and 
teaching as we learn as much 

771
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,440
from those who come to us as as 
yeah. 

772
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Yeah, true teaching and coaching
is really reciprocal. 

773
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,240
I'm proud of you. 
That's super cool. 

774
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,440
It's fun to watch this go. 
Thank you so much. 

775
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,400
Don't forget to read the show 
notes everybody. 

776
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:29,320
Thank you Maverick so much. 
Well, it's always wonderful to 

777
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,960
connect with Maverick and you 
can check out Maverick's 

778
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,040
coaching program in the show 
notes. 

779
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,240
Right now we're going to do some
Patrons shout outs. 

780
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Because of patrons, this podcast
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781
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,440
the world is possible. 
You can join Patreon for free. 

782
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,320
You can check out public posts 
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783
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,600
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784
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Little as 5. 
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785
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you might see it's 750 and not 

786
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,960
$5. 
Do it on a browser. 

787
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,640
Because if you're seeing 750, 
it's because you're on an iOS. 

788
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,640
OK, so here you have an Apple 
device, so, or an iPhone or an 

789
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,400
iPad or something like that. 
But if you use like the Safari 

790
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,280
browser, you don't pay the same 
30% surcharge. 

791
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,680
It's nothing to do with Patron. 
I'm not trying to fool you. 

792
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640
It is just how the App Store 
works. 

793
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,080
All righty, we're going to give 
shout outs to our newest 

794
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,320
patrons. 
And I just want to say this week

795
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,520
as we move to the end of 
October, because of loving all 

796
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,560
things spooky season, you can 
save a little extra when you 

797
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,760
sign up with an annual 
subscription that we don't ever 

798
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,880
have to worry about. 
Like is this subscription going 

799
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,760
through or? 
Hey, why don't I have access? 

800
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,680
And maybe change the card or 
something. 

801
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,160
So doing annual is just a great 
way to keep everything moving 

802
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,640
and flowing and grooving. 
And here we go. 

803
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:07,200
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804
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:15,640
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805
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806
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807
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808
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:44,440
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809
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810
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:59,160
Worm, DB, Ashley, Carmen, 
Albano, Nick, Retal, Bertha and 

811
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Jenny. 
Thank you all for being our 

812
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,720
newest Pete runs. 
There is more good stuff coming 

813
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:07,160
up, I promise, and I look 
forward to doing these every 

814
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,840
single week. 
So thank you for joining us. 

815
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,920
All right, Next up we're going 
to have a sneak peek of that 

816
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,440
Oscar Wilde piece that I was 
talking about and then we'll end

817
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,400
the podcast on how to use your 
energy throughout this week. 

818
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,360
It is an intense week, but 
intensity doesn't mean bad and 

819
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,120
you can use it as a. 
Transformational force to drive 

820
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,800
even deeper into your own 
authenticity. 

821
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,680
So you can make your difference.
In the world. 

822
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,160
I'm really excited because this 
week is Halloween and one of the

823
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,720
things I do every single year 
during spooky season, especially

824
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:14,800
the week of Halloween, is I 
choose an author and I do their 

825
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,400
astrology and I read from their 
work. 

826
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,400
I've done Edgar Allan Poe, Mary 
Shelley, and this year we're 

827
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,920
doing Oscar Wilde. 
Oscar Wilde was known for his 

828
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:32,960
comedic works, for his wit, for 
his amazing mastery of prose. 

829
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,200
And yet he wrote one of the most
disconcerting and interesting 

830
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,080
books called The Picture of 
Dorian Gray, which I think is 

831
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,440
just perfect for the times we're
living in. 

832
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,920
So if you're a patron at any 
supporting level, that's the $5 

833
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,600
level in up. 
Be sure that you're signing up 

834
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,960
with your browser, not the app, 
because Patreon can't do 

835
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,880
anything about the 30% Apple 
surcharge. 

836
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,840
So if you want to sign up, use a
regular browser. 

837
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,960
You can do it on your phone even
just not on the mobile app. 

838
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,640
You can still join the Patreon 
for free and you can look at 

839
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,200
public posts. 
A lot of people don't realize 

840
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,040
it's, it's not just a payment 
gateway that there's stuff there

841
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,280
at all levels. 
And I even go live with all 

842
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,800
patrons, including free patrons 
a couple times a month. 

843
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,560
All righty, so I'm going to just
talk a little bit about Oscar 

844
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,960
Wilde's astrology here. 
If you're a supporting patron, 

845
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,880
you're going to get the full 
meal deal this week. 

846
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,880
But one of the things. 
I love about. 

847
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,400
Oscar Wilde In high school, I 
was in The Importance of Being 

848
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,920
Earnest and I played Lady 
Bracknell and which is a super 

849
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:52,800
fun play to be in. 
But I was intrigued when I read 

850
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,840
The Portrait of Dorian Gray 
because of how he used the 

851
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:01,000
language very, very differently 
than other authors I had read, 

852
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:04,720
whether it was 19th or 20th 
century, and his descriptive 

853
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,280
prose. 
And it was really, really 

854
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,000
beautiful. 
And I also liked, you know, 

855
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,560
psychological horror and things 
like that. 

856
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,960
It was a big Alfred Hitchcock 
fan. 

857
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,200
Go go figure. 
Scorpio raising right? 

858
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:24,280
Anyway, when we look at Oscar 
Wilde's chart we see a Virgo 

859
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,560
rising, which he was a very 
dapper and dandy man. 

860
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,320
People don't ever give Virgo 
energy the credit it deserves 

861
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,920
for being well put together. 
He had a very cultivated and 

862
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,720
curated look. 
He had Venus in Libra and his 

863
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:40,800
son in Libra in the second 
house. 

864
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,720
Not a surprise he made his 
income from the arts and they 

865
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:49,280
were trying Saturn in Gemini at 
the top of his chart conjunct 

866
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,000
the mid heaven. 
If this chart is accurate, it's 

867
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:59,320
got it's a broaden rating C so 
it may not be exact but it's 

868
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,600
close. 
It's in the ballpark because 

869
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,000
Rodden herself rated this chart 
so she was a stickler, let me 

870
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,080
tell you. 
He had a Scorpio Mercury and A 

871
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,200
and a Sagittarius Mars, both in 
the 3rd house in this chart. 

872
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,000
Not a huge surprise. 
His Mercury was in opposition to

873
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:24,360
Uranus in Taurus. 
He was born in 1854, which it 

874
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:32,080
had some very similar energy to 
a few years ago, like 2021-2022.

875
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,560
And the world was changing in a 
very similar way different, but 

876
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,640
it was still changing. 
And he was kind of the product 

877
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,560
of that social change. 
Of course, his Pluto was in 

878
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,680
Taurus. 
It takes forever for Pluto to 

879
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,360
move through Taurus. 
So that that takes like 40 

880
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,760
years, you know. 
So he was at the beginning of 

881
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,720
that. 
Neptune was in Pisces in his 

882
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,280
chart, not a huge surprise but 
in square to his Saturn. 

883
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:05,480
And he did face difficulty for 
his work and his personhood in 

884
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,600
life. 
He was jailed for immorality 

885
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:14,640
because he was gay. 
He had Jupiter in Capricorn in 

886
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,440
the 5th and and I don't again. 
I think people sleep on 

887
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Capricorn energy a lot. 
The 5th house is our creative 

888
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,800
self-expression. 
He was a very creative man and 

889
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,080
Capricorn is all about 
realization and and becoming. 

890
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,640
So that's a little look into who
he is. 

891
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,400
I'll go a little deeper in the 
Patreon, but but he was a master

892
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,560
of prose and language. 
And so I'll just read the 

893
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,040
preface for the main podcast 
and, and if you're a patron, 

894
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:53,520
you'll get much more than that. 
So moving we're reading from 

895
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,920
Project Gutenberg. 
If you're looking for really 

896
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:02,280
interesting books to read and 
maybe investigating classic 

897
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,920
literature, Project Gutenberg is
a not-for-profit project that 

898
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,840
keeps books alive. 
And when we look at Oscar 

899
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:18,480
Wilde's chart, we see a Virgo 
rising, which he was a very 

900
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,600
dapper and dandy man. 
People don't ever give Virgo 

901
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,320
Energy the credit it deserves 
for being well put together. 

902
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,320
He had a very cultivated and 
curated look. 

903
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,680
He had Venus in Libra and his 
son in Libra in the second 

904
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,840
house. 
Not a surprise. 

905
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,680
He made his income from the arts
and they were trying Saturn in 

906
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,640
Gemini at the top of his chart 
conjunct the mid heaven. 

907
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:48,200
If this chart is accurate, it's 
got it's a broaden rating C so 

908
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,160
it may not be exact, but it's 
close. 

909
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,200
It's in the ballpark because 
Rodden herself rated this chart 

910
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,000
so she was a stickler. 
Let me tell you, he had a 

911
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,280
Scorpio Mercury and A and a 
Sagittarius Mars both in the 3rd

912
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,320
house in this chart. 
Not a huge surprise. 

913
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,640
His Mercury was in opposition to
Uranus in Taurus. 

914
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:19,960
He was born in 1854 which it had
some very similar energy to a 

915
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:26,160
few years ago like 2021-2022 and
the world was changing in a very

916
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,400
similar way. 
Different, but it was still 

917
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,960
changing. 
And he was kind of the product 

918
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,880
of that social change. 
Of course, his Pluto was in 

919
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,960
Taurus. 
It takes forever for Pluto to 

920
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,680
move through Taurus. 
So that that takes like 40 

921
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,080
years, you know. 
So he was at the beginning of 

922
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,000
that. 
Neptune was in Pisces in his 

923
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,600
chart, not a huge surprise, but 
in square to his Saturn. 

924
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:57,800
And he did face difficulty for 
his work and his personhood in 

925
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,920
life. 
He was jailed for immorality 

926
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,960
because he was gay. 
He had Jupiter in Capricorn in 

927
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,760
the 5th and and I don't again. 
I think people sleep on 

928
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Capricorn energy a lot. 
The 5th house is our creative 

929
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,120
self-expression. 
He was a very creative man and 

930
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,360
Capricorn is all about 
realization and and becoming. 

931
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,960
So that's a little look into who
he is. 

932
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,680
I'll go a little deeper in the 
Patreon, but but he was a master

933
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,880
of prose and language. 
And so I'll just read the 

934
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,360
preface for the main podcast 
and, and if you're a patron, 

935
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,880
you'll get much more than that. 
We're reading from Project 

936
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,360
Gutenberg if you're looking for 
really interesting books to read

937
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,440
and maybe investigating classic 
literature. 

938
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,280
Project Gutenberg is a 
not-for-profit project that 

939
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,840
keeps books alive and they they 
keep books that are in the 

940
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,280
public domain alike. 
That means they're not copy 

941
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,200
written anymore. 
They're past their copyright. 

942
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:12,600
And it's so easy in a world with
expendable values of where it's 

943
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,280
just unconscious consumerism, 
where we forget to enjoy and 

944
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,560
savor art from the past, 
including literature. 

945
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,680
And so if you've been curious, 
you can find everything, 

946
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,720
including like the Wizard of Oz 
books on there, which I think is

947
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:41,300
exciting. 
The preface of the Picture of 

948
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:44,420
Dorian Gray by the Ineffable. 
Oscar Wilde. 

949
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:48,740
The artist is the creator of 
beautiful things. 

950
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,040
To reveal art and conceal the 
artist is art's aim. 

951
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,760
The critic is he who can 
translate into another manner or

952
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,920
a new material is impression of 
beautiful things. 

953
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,520
The highest as the lowest form 
of criticism is the a mode of 

954
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,240
autobiography. 
Those who find ugly meanings in 

955
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,480
beautiful things are corrupt 
without being charming. 

956
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,320
This is a fault. 
Those who find beautiful 

957
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,040
meanings and beautiful things 
are the cultivated. 

958
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,920
For these there is hope. 
They are the elect to whom 

959
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,720
beautiful things mean only 
beauty. 

960
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,160
There is no such thing as a 
moral or an immoral book. 

961
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,000
Books are well written or badly 
written. 

962
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,400
That is all. 
The 19th century dislike of 

963
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,000
realism is the rage of Caliban 
seeing his own face in a glass. 

964
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,520
The 19th century, just like of 
Romanticism, is the rage of 

965
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,520
Calliban not saying his own face
in a glass. 

966
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,400
The moral life of man forms part
of the subject matter of the 

967
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,000
artist. 
But the morality of art consists

968
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,320
in the perfect use of an 
imperfect medium. 

969
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,000
No artist desires to prove 
anything. 

970
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,240
Even things that are true can be
proved. 

971
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,160
No artist has ethical 
sympathies. 

972
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,840
An ethical sympathy in an artist
is an unpardonable mannerism of 

973
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,440
style. 
No artist is ever morbid. 

974
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,280
The artist can express 
everything. 

975
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,360
Thought and language are to the 
artist instruments of an art. 

976
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,120
Vice and virtue are to the 
artist. 

977
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:43,840
Materials for an art from the 
point of view of form. 

978
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,680
The type of all the arts is the 
art of the musician. 

979
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,560
From the point of view of 
feeling, the actor's craft is 

980
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,720
the type. 
All art is at once surface and 

981
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,720
symbol. 
Those who go beneath the surface

982
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,080
do so at their peril. 
Those who read the symbol do so 

983
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,440
at their peril. 
It is the spectator and not life

984
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,440
that art really mirrors. 
Diversities of opinion about a 

985
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,120
work of art shows that the work 
is new, complex and vital. 

986
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,000
When critics disagree, the 
artist is in accord with 

987
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,280
himself. 
We can forgive a man for making 

988
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,680
a useful thing as long as he 
does not admire it. 

989
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,920
The only excuse for making a 
useless thing is that one 

990
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:38,480
admires it intensely. 
All art is quite useless. 

991
01:05:59,090 --> 01:06:02,890
Oscar Wilde is one of my very 
favorite writers and was known 

992
01:06:02,890 --> 01:06:07,490
for his sardonic humor. 
I'll be talking about that more 

993
01:06:07,490 --> 01:06:11,770
in depth this week as our Spooky
season special in the Patreon. 

994
01:06:12,050 --> 01:06:16,130
You can go to Patreon dot dot 
com forward slash the awake 

995
01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:18,840
space. 
To check that out, that will be 

996
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:25,200
for members at the $5 level. 
And all righty, we're ending 

997
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,000
this month with an intense grand
trine. 

998
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:36,000
Mars is currently trying 
Jupiter, which is trying Saturn 

999
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:41,000
in Pisces and Neptune because 
Neptune is slid back into. 

1000
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,400
Pisces as of the 22nd of 
October. 

1001
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,960
I said earlier in the year that 
this would be a time of 

1002
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,760
unraveling and and a lot of 
truth being spilled and that 

1003
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,960
make him out in unexpected ways.
There may be some things dug 

1004
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,960
from the depths and that could 
happen anywhere from archaeology

1005
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:09,240
to finding lost civilizations. 
Treasure we could hear more 

1006
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,360
about. 
Treasure being found as 

1007
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,080
different parts of the world 
experience. 

1008
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,160
Different kinds of effects of 
climate change, whether it's 

1009
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:25,960
lakes drying up or floods that 
wash away dirt that has been 

1010
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,640
hiding something so we could 
have hidden treasures arise as 

1011
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:34,080
much as some of the uglier 
things that are happening in the

1012
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,160
world. 
It's really important not to put

1013
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:43,640
our focus on the full assault on
our consciousness that is being 

1014
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:49,120
done by mainstream media, by 
various authoritarian messengers

1015
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,160
around the world. 
It's important for each of us to

1016
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,640
understand our consciousness is 
our own to wield. 

1017
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,360
And with everything that's 
happening in Scorpio right now, 

1018
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:06,280
with Mercury and Mars and the 
Sun in Scorpio, that's about 

1019
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,520
power. 
And power isn't about dominance 

1020
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,040
and control. 
In fact, only the weakest of 

1021
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,359
consciousnesses operate in that 
respect. 

1022
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,279
And unfortunately, we have a 
long history with that being 

1023
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:24,760
considered power. 
Each one of us has our own 

1024
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,760
power, and it's not about 
slinging spells or firing off 

1025
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,600
fire bolts or using bully boy 
tactics, but it's understanding 

1026
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:42,920
our own ability to stand through
intense times and to contribute 

1027
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,439
to our community, our society at
large, to be connected to our 

1028
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,399
ancestors. 
I know there's a lot of talk 

1029
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:56,560
about if your ancestors were 
oppressive when we die, that 

1030
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:02,520
falls away. 
There was wisdom there too, some

1031
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,920
of us. 
Have been robbed of traditional 

1032
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,399
wisdom since the times of 
ancient Rome, but there are 

1033
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:13,880
ancestors that go back that far.
This is a time to tune in to the

1034
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:19,399
wisdom side of our ancestry. 
All of us have that. 

1035
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:25,960
Somewhere when I look at the 
astrology of this week, starting

1036
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:31,920
on Monday the 27th. 
Again, we have Mars in a trine 

1037
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,560
with Jupiter. 
It's exact moving into the 

1038
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:44,479
evening of Monday, and that is 
an exaggeration of action in the

1039
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,120
outer world. 
In the inner world, it can be a 

1040
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:53,479
magnifying lens on our own 
internal excavation. 

1041
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,560
So often we get lost in the 
abyss. 

1042
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,560
Of trauma. 
Shadow work is something people 

1043
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,360
get stuck in, and I've written 
about that and I've recorded 

1044
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,840
about that in the Patreon and 
here on this podcast, that you 

1045
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,040
can't have a shadow without 
light. 

1046
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:16,320
You can't. 
That abyss, that darkness is 

1047
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,600
where we're not looking to our 
own internal light. 

1048
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,440
And Scorpio is the sign that 
governs transmutation, 

1049
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,280
transformation and alchemy. 
And when we can look at 

1050
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,200
ourselves and find our 
strengths, that's where our 

1051
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,360
power lies. 
That cannot be defeated, 

1052
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:46,200
regardless of circumstances. 
We have a great. 

1053
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Opportunity this week, each one 
of us. 

1054
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:55,920
To contemplate, to meditate on 
our own inner strength, our 

1055
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,240
talents, our strengths, our true
strengths, our talents, our 

1056
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:05,720
capabilities. 
If we do that and stop looking 

1057
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:11,920
where we have no power, where we
are weak, where we are unable to

1058
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:18,240
be of effect, If we can look 
where we contribute the most, 

1059
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,280
whether it is through kindness, 
whether it is through 

1060
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:30,440
contribution in volunteering, 
and whether it is offering aid 

1061
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:34,240
where we can give it, worrying 
about things outside of our 

1062
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:42,840
control depletes us, it erodes 
us, and we become apathetic. 

1063
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,280
Apathy isn't not caring. 
It's the. 

1064
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,320
Absence of power, feeling like 
we can do nothing. 

1065
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,920
That's why people say fuck it. 
That's why people say. 

1066
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:57,080
I can't. 
That's why people say I'm tired,

1067
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,000
because you feel powerless. 
And of course we feel powerless 

1068
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,280
in the face of massive systemic 
change, because we are, to some 

1069
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:11,120
effect, powerless to stop it. 
But maybe we're not supposed to 

1070
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,760
stop the change. 
Maybe we're supposed to envision

1071
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:20,080
a better future. 
And this grand trying is the 

1072
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:26,200
time to do that, To envision not
only how we wish the world to 

1073
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:31,000
be, to write a better ending, 
but to understand how we can 

1074
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,840
contribute. 
That's been my meditations the 

1075
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,520
last few weeks. 
How can I contribute in 

1076
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:43,000
meaningful ways that energize me
versus leave me tired and and 

1077
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:48,600
cranky? 
We're all going to be a little 

1078
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,480
more sensitive right now. 
It's hard not to be. 

1079
01:12:52,960 --> 01:13:02,560
You're not uncaring or unfeeling
or unempathetic when you look at

1080
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,440
what goes on in the world and 
then turn your attention to the 

1081
01:13:06,440 --> 01:13:08,160
part of the world you can 
impact. 

1082
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:14,520
There is always plenty of work 
for us in the world to remember 

1083
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,800
that we are a collective and 
none of. 

1084
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,400
Us get out of the collective 
experience, no matter how much 

1085
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,960
work we do. 
But some of us can contribute in

1086
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,960
greater ways by learning to hold
our consciousness steady. 

1087
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,840
And that's why I'm really 
excited about how this podcast 

1088
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:41,160
is going to move forward by 
helping you use astrology to 

1089
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,440
understand how to wield your 
consciousness instead of 

1090
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,160
allowing it to be grabbed and 
dragged by the wind and the 

1091
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,200
media and the messengers and the
propagandists. 

1092
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,880
To use your critical thinking to
allow yourself to find your 

1093
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,280
strength to contribute in 
meaningful ways, even if they're

1094
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,640
not grand and don't bring you 
any fame or recognition. 

1095
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:13,880
I once got a library billed. 
I spent from 2008 to 2015 

1096
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,680
involved in the project. 
And at the end of the project, 

1097
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,880
there was a group of people who 
infiltrated and took it over. 

1098
01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:26,600
And I was tired and I had other 
things I wanted to build and 

1099
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,000
grow, and I had done the bulk 
work of the work. 

1100
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,400
My name isn't on the plaque on 
the music on the library. 

1101
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,040
And I'm OK with that. 
I didn't do it to have my name 

1102
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,320
on a plaque. 
I did it so my community would 

1103
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,440
have a library. 
And to this day, there was a 

1104
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:50,760
place for children who ride the 
bus in all weather and the 

1105
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,080
elderly who ride the bus in all 
weather. 

1106
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,120
They have a dry space to go. 
They have access to computers 

1107
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,360
and the Internet even when they 
don't at home because it's a 

1108
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:07,960
rural area, they have access to 
books and services that they 

1109
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,960
didn't have before. 
Now, some people might be upset 

1110
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:17,080
their name isn't on the plaque. 
I'll never forget when it was 

1111
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,640
finally finished and I was back 
from a road trip where I'd been 

1112
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,760
teaching my workshops. 
And I walked through the library

1113
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,960
teary eyed, seeing our vision 
realized. 

1114
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,320
And I was walking back to my car
and the head librarian, who is 

1115
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:37,120
now retired, David, came running
across the parking lot. 

1116
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,800
Lori, Lori, did you see it? 
It's just like we said it would 

1117
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,240
be. 
I said it is. 

1118
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,520
It's magnificent. 
Everything from the room for 

1119
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,480
tiny tots where they could play 
and have puppet shows and their 

1120
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:55,440
parents could be available and 
they wouldn't disturb the rest 

1121
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,840
of the library with their happy 
squeals because we made sure 

1122
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,800
there was soundproofing and yet 
visual so that nobody could get 

1123
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,440
hurt in there, To the study room
for teenagers where they too 

1124
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:09,760
could make noise while they 
studied and learn things, but it

1125
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wasn't hidden away because of 
safety. 

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To the space for the seniors to 
gain assistance in learning how 

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to use computers. 
Just like 1 old fellow in our 

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,560
early pilot days when he walked 
in and said my grandkids said I 

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need to learn this googly 
machine. 

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,440
It was wondrous to see the rows 
of books and the things 

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01:16:36,440 --> 01:16:39,600
available. 
And David looked at me and he 

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,080
said, I'm so sorry your name 
isn't on the plaque. 

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,040
I said that's. 
OK, I didn't do it for that. 

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,720
My names are on the by my name 
is on the bylaws and he said 

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01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,400
that they are and boy was that a
whole story. 

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,520
I said, but I didn't do it for 
that David. 

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01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,280
I did it so we'd have a library 
and he goes that's AI know Lori 

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01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:06,120
and those of us who've. 
Been there, know we don't always

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01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,320
have to do things to get the 
credit and there will always be 

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:15,440
those who seek it. 
There will always be those who 

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01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:20,440
are mentioned, and often they 
are not the ones who do the bulk

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01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:27,200
of the work. 
And that's OK, as Margaret Mead 

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:57,000
said. 
Never doubt that a small group 

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of thoughtful, committed 
citizens can change the world. 

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,760
Indeed, it's the only thing that
ever has. 

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01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:14,160
When we wield our consciousness 
in the direction of building 

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01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,440
instead of destruction. 
When we wield our consciousness 

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:29,400
in support versus restraint, 
when we wield our consciousness 

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:37,400
and tune our Mercury into a 
space that sees what is possible

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01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,880
versus what cannot be done, that
is where we have the greatest 

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:47,720
influence. 
Don't go through this week with 

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,200
despair there. 
Will be a great effort to make 

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01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,520
you. 
Feel that way? 

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01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:01,160
To end the podcast, I'll give 
you another quote, this one by 

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Oscar Wilde. 
The best revenge is living well,

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01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:12,480
and that takes time to build 
with our consciousness to focus 

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01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:17,320
on living well regardless of 
circumstances. 

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01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,080
Where joy is an act of 
resistance, we're creating. 

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01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,520
Art is an act of resistance 
we're cultivating. 

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01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:36,800
Our consciousness is the highest
aim we can set our sights on. 

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:45,400
Starting next week, every single
day, you'll gain tools and 

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:51,160
understanding for how to tune 
your consciousness to understand

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01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,960
how to use your astrology. 
And yeah, they'll be short 

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:01,520
episodes, but they'll be easy to
take action steps because I'm 

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01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:07,840
here to teach, not entertain. 
I'm helping you use your own 

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01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:13,240
soul's technology, not to put 
band aids on a sore reality. 

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,000
I'm Lori Rivers, and I want to 
thank you for listening. 

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,920
And I hope you got your perfect 
parking.