Welcome back to the awake. Space astrology, podcast.
I'm Lori rivers with you. I'm your host, and I'm here to
help you with some inspiration to get your aspirations out in
the world. We are post, Eclipse, we are
post midterms and in this episode, I am dedicating the
entire episode to Pluto. This will be a little education
in the astrology factor and we're going to talk about Pluto
the planet, why? It's not a Durational Planet,
why we want to refer to it as a transpersonal planet and some of
the things I've been contemplating about this planet.
People used to ask me, does the NASA designation mean anything?
No, because NASA is astronomy, not astrology.
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So let's talk about Pluto, shall we?
So Pluto is often a very feared Celestial body when it comes to
astrology, especially in popular astrology circles.
Because the Pluto in Leo era, Folk, Decided to label it.
The destroyer and it's really not, it can feel that way, but
it's really forced Evolution, which was the Pluto in Gemini
and Pluto in cancer era, folks. Original interpretation.
You have to remember we as astrologers have not had a full
Pluto cycle to do our observations.
Chesley as astrologers doing our observations.
Now, the old-timey astrologers and those of us who were trained
in those traditions and I'm talking like the medieval
astrologers like William Lily and Copernicus, Galileo, and
people like that wrote their observations of the times,
right? Of what was going on.
What celestial body. They were attributing things too
and it doesn't mean, Those things are gospel, you know?
That's the other thing people like well, they said this, that
was their observations. You want to study from that.
Okay, but it wasn't the end, all be all because we all have a
social cultural lens that were perceiving our reality from.
So a lot of the 20th century and some of our 21st Century
astrologers love to go back in history pre Pluto Discovery
before it was in our Consciousness and You'd
historical acts like the French Revolution to Pluto in Aquarius
and I don't think that is a very good practice.
You have to remember we have really solid ground with Saturn,
why? Saturn was visible to the naked
eye for human beings. For the whole of our existence.
We've had a lot of time to observe and correlate and Make
note. Now, our understanding of things
may evolve as our understanding of the world evolves, but I
don't think you can look back in the past and say, oh, that's
because of that planetary Transit, especially if we
weren't living through it, we weren't sensing the energy in
our bodies. We weren't experiencing these
transits to ourselves. That personal experience helps
reading a lot of clients, you know.
So Pluto until 1930 was in our super subconscious, it was like
really super subconscious. We're talking way 12th house
here. Where you're really not aware of
the issues and we've given a lot of designations to ruler ships
with Pluto. We've given a lot of, you know,
we've assigned it, a lot of values that I just don't think
we're wise and I think Astrologers in the future going
to think we were kind of dumb and here's why we call Pluto a
generational planet. And the reason for that is
because the astrologers of the time, especially, you know, from
the 40s 50s 60s 70s, we're going to be able to live through At
minimum, if they live to be an old person five signs if not
six, okay? And we have some people going to
7, the people who were born at the very tail.
End of the Pluto and cancer era are living in to if they're
lucky into the Pluto and Aquarius era.
And that is because since Pluto's quote-unquote Discovery
until it came into our Awareness.
It was going through the fastest part of its orbit.
OK Pluto moves through its orbit in 248 years but it is
irregular. So I was born and at the end the
last 10 degrees of Pluto and Virgo I've lived through Pluto
and Virgo, Pluto and Libra play. Udo in, Scorpio, Pluto and Sach.
Pluto in Capricorn, I will most likely live through Pluto in
Aquarius where it starts to slow down, it's a 21-year run.
Okay, and then, Pluto, in Pisces, put on Pisces ends, it
ends in 2068 when Pluto moves into Aries, if I should live.
Lon I will be 99 years old. I don't think I'm going to live
that old I might but it would be rare and then I will have lived
through 28 Pluto moving through the science.
But you see from Pluto in Aries to Pluto in Taurus you pull up
my phone because I was taking notes, I've made a tick top for
this go like it. If you're not following me on
Tick, Tock you need to You know they're suppressing My Views
just I'll talk about that later. So Pluto and Aquarius is a
21-year Transit. Pluto in Pisces is 26 years.
Pluto, in Aries is 30 years, Pluto in Taurus is 40 years,
okay? That's from 2098 until 2138 and
then Things start speeding up a little bit more Pluto.
In Gemini is a 19-year Transit. Now that makes it pretty
generational because a generation is technically 20
years and then Pluto in cancer is 26 years, okay?
So that's the slowest part of the orbit.
So a child born in 2024 would be 21 when Pluto, enters Pisces and
then what 46, when Pluto, enters Aries, and then 76, when Pluto,
Anders Taurus, and they wouldn't live to see the end of Pluto and
tourists. So that's one, two three.
They lived through for signs. That Pluto is transiting Do you
hear me on this? So we can't call the Pluto eras
or the Pluto transits. All right, we can't call those
Generations because if we go to what we've lived through you
know, Pluto entered a query or sorry, Pluto entered Leo in 1939
and for 17 years, it was in that sign.
Then it moved to Virgo. It moved into Virgo at what 1956
might have been 58? F to look again.
Years of Pluto in Virgo. And then Pluto in Libra was 11
years, Pluto in Scorpio was 12 years.
Pluto, in sad was 12 years, Pluto in Capricorn starting to
slow down again, 16 years. So you see on a lot of blogs
because you get young people or younger astrologers and and
again it's a little bit of hubris.
It's kind of like the what the Pluto and Leo guys were doing.
Oh, this is my lifetime. Therefore, it must be this but
you see that's dangerous when you're interpreting astrology
because our lens colors are interpretation.
Okay. So all that it's a generation.
Well, Kind of kind of not, it's better to call Pluto a
transpersonal planet, okay. It is not in your foundational
personality. It is how the authority of the
world impacted you. It's about the the social
cultural programming that you adopted or and and how you wield
power within that structure, how you don't, okay, a It's about
what needed to change and transform at the time of your
birth and how you carry that energy with you, okay?
And it is about how we evolve forward if you want to read some
good information about Pluto, Jeffrey wolf, green or wrote
some great books on this. I was so lucky to study with him
he was phenomenal evolutionary astrologer.
And the reason I say I'm a progressive evolutionary
astrologer is because I wanted to kind of remove the
patriarchal thinking out of out of that wonderful work because
and people nobody wants to admit the patriarchy inside of
themselves because we associated with negativity and we don't
want to be that bad person. And honestly in you know,
Jeffrey wolf, green was about, my folks is age.
You know, I think it was a little bit older than my parents
and and they didn't see anything wrong with it.
They saw very divided lines between what men do and what
women do and what makes a man. A man I want makes a woman a
woman and you know those social cultural assignments, okay.
And even though they were questioning the authority of
before them, you know they just that wasn't their gig and it's
our gig now And so I would still read it, always read everything.
Even, you know, listen, I read everything with a grain of salt.
Use your discernment, okay? I don't want everybody to take
my word as gospel. I may speak with confidence.
I don't know everything. I don't, I'm really smart.
I've studied a lot of things, but I am not the font of wisdom.
Okay, I'm not. I love to explore ideas and it's
been really bothering me watching popular astrology on
Tik-Tok YouTube blogs, things like that but they're like it's
a generational planet and its really nice transpersonal.
It's beyond our individual self and are we kind of carry that
Collective desire to transform or fight against transformation?
It can go either way and we can have both of those going.
Either ways inside of us. Sometimes were traditional is
the one area and sometimes we want to move things forward, you
know. Um you know I look at our gender
conversations, you know, as much as I believe people can be who
they are. Okay and if someone feels they
are a certain gender and want to identify and identify with that
gender. I don't have a problem with that
but I will point out we still have Of the social bias of the
makeup and the hair and the clothes, or the lack of makeup
and hair and the clothes, depending on which gender one is
identifying with. And the people who meet that
social gender Norm will gain more notice than people who are,
like, I just want to be me in the gender I am and I'm not
going to conform in the uniform. I'm not saying it's bad.
You see in a farm I'm just kind of just saying we're still then
identifying with gender norms and it's okay.
Now I mean where we are all of us.
Born now, all of us living now are living through the fastest,
part of that Pluto Transit, and that's why we've lived through
such volatility, that's why we've lived through such
volatility, socially, culturally, technology
technologically, we've just, you know, Just moved through it and
blazing speed, and that's why there's backlash.
So when you look at like the Pluto and Virgo, folk my age
group, and again, I'm born towards the tail end of that,
but you'll notice we're almost split 50-50.
Well, Virgo is ruled by Mercury. Okay.
And there are those who are fighting against social change,
and I was thinking about this. The other day, I was like, why
are half of gen xers? Has either a complete
bootlicker, conservative Nazis. And why are half of us, you
know, very rebellious and very, it's not even half.
I'd say a third, a third, a third, like a third of us are
very rebellious and very much activists.
A third are kind of apathetic and a third are just really
against any kind of social progress.
And then you go back and you're like, well, because a lot of our
parents were either like you have to remember the
conservative movement, let's kind of driven by us in some
ways because it was so willy-nilly in the 70s.
There was so much drug use in the 70s and 80s so much,
alcohol, abuse. Nobody nobody talked about
people being alcoholics it. It was normal for people to have
martinis every night and drink, you know, six pack.
It was normal for people to lock their kids out of their house.
And I think when the conservative churches are moving
in the 80s, during the Pluto, and Scorpio people were drawn to
that security in that safety. So what does this have to do
with Pluto a lot? A lot, you know, because it was
what needed to change things were kind of wild and out of
control and Their society was changing so rapidly during Pluto
and Libra. And then again in Pluto and
Scorpio and there was a backlash to that because there wasn't a
safety net. So people found safety in a very
controlling environment and so that third of us who felt secure
their okay or felt power there because remember Pluto's about
power. So some people felt power in
that structure. Other people didn't like that
part. Power.
I was very, very young and and like, a baby and my great
grandma took me every weekend and I went to church with her
and then she died when Pluto was on my moon, I was like 10 or
just turned 11. It Was 1980 and my, my
grandfather died on Election Day and then two weeks later.
And that was for my dad's side. My paternal grandfather died on
Election Day. Always blame breaking for
killing them in 1980, that was a joke and then on Thanksgiving my
great grandma passed away in 1980.
Those were the two people who kept me safe in this world and
and I had a really strong Foundation.
You know she took me to church. It was a nice church at wasn't
Evangelical. It wasn't Hellfire and brimstone
wasn't super controlling. I Didn't really go to the kids,
part of the church too much. I did a little bit of Sunday
school but I really liked sitting with my grandma during
the sermons, I was always really spiritual very connected and
well-versed in the religion. I was, you know, I was pretty
religious, but then when I was about 13 and I would have been
1982 the church started to change, it was starting to
become more, what we called charismatic which became I was
really uncomfortable with it because it wasn't that safe
space anymore. It was becoming very controlling
kind of very judgmental, and more emotional, to be honest.
You know, lots of emotions, and crying and testifying.
And I was like, I wasn't comfortable with that.
When I couldn't talk about the stuff going on in my life and it
just hit all my don't tell buttons that, that saved me from
the church. And so I left that church in the
My grandmother on my dad's side asked me to go to the Lutheran
Church with her. I wasn't into the structure of
that either. And I thought it was very
outdated and I eventually left and I've told that story on
livestreams, the reason I bring those stories up is because I
was really contemplating the spiritual experience.
Like why did those other people go into these churches?
That were really controlling? And yet, when the control came,
I left, okay? I was like, well, because I had
a Loving secure childhood experience with people who loved
me there. Why?
I'm resilient even though there was chaos in my home even though
there was abuse going on, I still had these caring loving
people. Who gave me who gave me
security, and so, I didn't need the security of that
organization. Other people weren't so lucky.
It's really easy to sit in judgment but everybody has a
space for white. So if they had chaos, if they
had violence, if they had, you know, a lot of substance abuse
around them. I can't blame people for wanting
that stricter, environment, like my best.
Friend growing up an Aries for go raising Aries.
She grew up in a Pentecostal, very conservative family like
they were conservative before. It was cool and and she and I
are dear friends to this day. We've been friends since we were
12 and he used to say you know, if it wasn't for the church, I
would have been way too wild. I would have got myself into
trouble and this was when we were young, And I didn't
understand it then, and as an astrologer and as somebody who's
met, a lot of people seen a lot of life.
I'm like, you know, maybe she was right.
Maybe that was exactly what she ended up using up, you know, she
ended up not being as conservative.
She still is not a Trumper at all.
She's kind of old school on that.
But and I could see why giving I know I know what happened in her
childhood. It's not my story to tell.
I know what happened? I know why she needed that kind
of very safe controlled space and so it's really easy to just
say these people are stupid, right?
I don't think they are. I think, I think they're scared
and I think when you're afraid and Pluto kind of deals, Those
life-and-death issues, that's why they called it.
The Destroyer, it's those big transformational events and for
some people, they will liberate out of that.
They will outcome eyes from it. They will come up bigger, better
and stronger. And who knows for some people
that conservative route, maybe where they feel that they've
transformed it. Okay.
Transformation on the inside is an inside job and you can think,
you know, better for somebody but you're not, you don't know.
Their souls intent. Okay, you don't know.
Am I trying to tell you? They're all good people a whole
lot. I'm not, I'm just saying
sometimes we need to think about these things.
From a different perspective. Okay, sometimes we need to look
at things differently and so I've really been contemplating
on Pluto, as force of evolutionary change and it's
going to make sense that people are going to take it in extreme.
Is there going to be you know exude that energy in them in
Extreme Ways because it's an extreme energy.
It's forcing change its forcing Evolution but it's really in my
opinion it's fear is not useful. Now granted I'm a Scorpio
Rising. I've Pluto in the 10th house is
conjunct myself node fear actually kind of pisses me off.
It really does. It kind of makes me get angry.
I don't I don't I like to be afraid.
Because I know that when I'm afraid, I'm reacting, right?
And I'm not making good decisions.
And, and that goes for everybody, when our amygdala
make the amygdala, I can speak amygdala that.
Part of our brain, our Primal brain when it's firing, we don't
always make good decisions. There's times, it's a good
thing. Bear is chasing.
You good thing to have an amygdala, great, great response.
If you have to fight somebody, it's good to have it.
If you need to run away, it's great stuff, but that constant
fear of change doesn't help. We were born for these times, we
were born for this change and the way we can see it with the
Pluto irregular orbit of 240 years is The quickness from
Pluto and Leo to Pluto in Aquarius, that is half the signs
experienced in a lifetime. In a lifetime.
Right? That is half the Zodiac and a
lifetime for immense amount of change and the next half which
no one writes out the dates for past Pluto and Taurus because
none of us alive are going to see it.
Okay? Again let me give you those
dates for the longest part of that orbit.
It's Daisy. So, I had to run my ephemeris on
my software. I use solar fired.
That's in that Tick-Tock video to.
I had to run my software to show that.
So let me go back to my notes. Just so, you know, again, we've
got 21 years and put on an aquarius.
Now, that's going to start reshaping.
Being society and then reshaping probably religion and Pluto in
Pisces, which is 20, it starts in 2043 at ends in 2068 and then
and it starts getting weird for me when I start looking out past
Pluto, entering Aries because I know I won't be here for this
and when you're 53, you kind of feel that a little bit
differently than when you're in your 20s.
You like I know I'm already past halfway.
So so, you know, 30 years, you know, 2098 for Pluto and Taurus
and then 40 years later in 21:38, you have Pluto and Gemini
and then, Pluto and cancer enters in 21:57 21:57.
That's just A long ways away. It's it's a long ways away.
It's almost hard to conceive of that, isn't it?
And so we're the transformation of moving things forward.
And then things will most likely make some change.
But stabilizing forces will see. Will it be stable in our
lifetime? I economically?
Yeah, I think I think we'll see some more collectivism.
I think we'll probably also see you some better fixes for the
environment as well. I think will innovate.
I think we'll have to I do See, you know, I do see Silver,
Linings to the time we live in and I see the things eventually
stabilize out. It won't be as volatile as the
time we're living in because we are in a great time of change,
and we were all born for it. But I think when we're talking
about Pluto, both from a mundane perspective and a needle
perspective, it's important not to call it a generational
Planet, because I think we need to switch the lens into how we
evolve and how each era and that's why you'll notice I call
it an era and I say it's a transpersonal planet because how
we speak about things matters says the Venus in Gemini with
the Mercury rule chart but how we speak of about things matters
because it changes how we think about ourselves, I say you are a
Divine being Being notice, I don't like the divine feminine
Divine masculine talk because I think it's patriarchy packaged
with the bow. I think is trying to get people
to fit into boxes that no longer serve us.
Gender is a human concept. It's not necessarily A Divine
concept, okay? I think, when we get out into
the Universe, I think it's so much bigger than that.
Okay. And when it comes to gender,
what you wear that is culturally its own thing.
Okay every culture is different we're very u.s.
Centric and we're very few. People got white culture.
I how and somebody who studied lots of different things?
I don't know that I think there is a white culture.
I think there is a manufacturer thing that I don't I don't know,
I never fit into it so maybe that's why I see it that way
because then I do see those people and I'm like, oh yeah,
those would be probably never got along with because I don't
fit in with them, you know, like the mayonnaise and and the
football parties and the suburbs.
And oh, I once stayed in a suburb talk about Pluto and
Rebellion, I'm I went stayed in a suburb and My skin hurt.
It literally hurt and I was like, I can't do this, so I
guess maybe because I don't fit into it is why I'm like I don't
get that because my family retained even though we've been
here a long time, we retained a lot of our cultural identities
and I think that makes a difference.
If you don't tell stories, if you don't know where you came
from mild and you're going to have to identify with something.
And I think that's why these people hold on to it.
You can tell. I've been contemplating I've
been contemplating I need to take a break and let's, let's
revisit this here in a second. I know I'm rambling, but I'm
trying to get to something. I want you to understand the
depth of Pluto and the richness of that evolutionary force and
that it's not something to fear. So I'm going to take a break and
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as I can. I have a Libra moon in the 11th
house so there is that. Now let's talk a little more
about Pluto and why I was contemplating all of this and
what in it, just bothers me that astrologers in the future going
to be like, oh my God, they were so dumb.
Why did they look at it this way?
And think of it from their perspective, if you are born
with Pluto and Pisces, These, which is a 30-year run, you
know, our 25-year run. And then there's Pluto and Aries
and it's 30 years. And then Pluto and tourists,
imagine those people born at the beginning of Pluto and Taurus,
they find astrology in their 20s halfway through the Pluto and
tourist Transit and they read through some of the 20th century
literature, the 21st century literature and they're like,
what were these people on? You know, and so that bothers
me. I'm like, well I don't want them
to think of that about me. I don't want them to think I was
dumb. But there are those of us
especially evolutionary astrologers and and Progressive
evolutionary astrologers and there's a handful of us on the
planet. And I think I'm the only one who
calls myself that who call it a transpersonal planet, you know?
It's transpersonal and a transpersonal planet.
Is it some it's beyond you, it's bigger than you, you're carrying
the energy of an era inside of you and so you know and their
first part of this podcast, I was talking about you know, just
my own group of people like why did they turn out that way?
You know, I can always get along with my peers because there were
those who were extreme conformists and a lot of us who
didn't conform Necessarily Vibe. We were all into different
things. We didn't necessarily not Vibe
either, and then you always have the apathetic and I think you
have that pathetic in every group, right?
And just some are different than other site.
Every era is colored by the astrological, whether in which
they were born. We carry that inside of us and
there's so much fear around Pluto.
And I have lived a significant amount of Pluto.
That's in this lifetime significant significant.
Like I don't remember not living through what because just the
way my chart is laid out and 2026 is the first year I get
without a major Pluto Transit and I don't know what I'll do.
I'm curious about what that will feel like there tends to be a
lot of pressure would Pluto transits now you might be Well,
when I was little, I have this really bad accident or when I
was in my 20s, I had this like life and death event and yes you
did and yet you're here. It may have quote unquote,
destroyed your reality. That's why the Pluto and Leo
folk were like it's the Destroyer.
He feels like it when I was going through Pluto in my first
house for like when it crossed by ascendant man at yeah it was
a really hard time in my life. Probably the first.
Half of that transit. In fact, won't know the whole of
that Transit was hard because a lot of the things I believed
about myself weren't true and they had to fall away.
And they were like X, it was like an existential crisis that
just didn't seem to end and that's how I came into
astrology. Okay, Mackenzie, and I actually
talked about that. I'll link that episode in.
In fact, I'll make it so easy for you guys.
Find the interviews with Casey and Mackenzie because Mackenzie
had a life-altering event. It was a big, Pluto Transit.
We talked about it in that episode and yeah, you know, it
was life altering its how she got into metaphysics it's how
should started studying astrology.
It's something that put her on her, North Node path and she is
an immensely powerful Russian. I don't even think she realizes
how powerful she is. I look forward to seeing her
grow in confidence and understanding wisdom.
She carries. It's beautiful.
That's why we all love mcdo boobs.
Yeah. So and every single one of these
astrologers are trained, is remarkable.
You know, Casey lived through. Without going over, it's a
tough. Tough Transit.
You have Pluto, aspecting, the Moon by transit, and if you're
not sure it, now, this is where people get confused.
When I talk about needle placement sites from your birth
chart, the transits, you know, the planets, and the celestial
bodies, they keep moving, okay? And so, when we talk about
transits, never say my, so, like I had somebody say my clips.
On the on the livestream. And I give them a little quick
correction and it's not me being a jerk.
It's just, we have a nomenclature and so the eclipse
had this impact on me. If you say my Eclipse, well,
it's not just your Eclipse that most of the globe saw the
eclipse. Okay.
So your experience of that energy was and I know people
like well, but that's what I meant.
Yeah, I know but it makes it confusing later if you want to
study Eddie. So when you say my so like my
Pluto is in Virgo in the 10th house, Okay, Transit, Pluto is
in Capricorn. It's in my third house now,
which I realized that's why I was having issues writing.
It's not destroyed my writing, I've had to change how I do
things. I've had to transform my
writing. I've had to kind of let go of
the methods and the models. I've always used right?
And funny enough went through, it's a first-year play.
It up. What's in my third house?
I went through two cars. Some got a third but you know
what it did is the first car. I didn't really want in the
first place but it's what I had the second car that got eaten by
rats, believe it or not long story, super not fun explaining
to your insurance people. Los Angeles is crazy for that, I
lived in the woods for 17 years. Never had a rodent problem.
Only in Italy. But anyway, So, I went through
three cars between 2019 and 2020 2021.
So each year and a half tweet, two years and I ended up having
to buy a new car like a brand new car because I could and the
other cars were like pre-owned. And so I bought my very first in
part why I had to level up. Pluto's Pluto is always telling
you to level up. Level up and it's not about the
circumstances. It's about leveling up your
internal power changing, your beliefs around things, you're
transforming your alkalizing. Let me tell you, I know how to
deal with insurance. Now I've never had to make a
claim in my life was crazy sauce.
So it tends to be extreme. It could have been more extreme.
I've had much much worse Pluto transits than Pluto, entering
the third house but then over this last year, I've noticed in
the writing you know I had some bad news on my Vision in 2021
and I was lamenting that and then I found all kinds of ways
to make that easier on myself and I had big breakthroughs with
this Eclipse so it was nice. And if you didn't that's okay,
the energy brings out over time and energy brings out over time.
My thoughts on Pluto are pretty strong right now.
Because, you know, we're about to get a taste of brief Taste of
Pluto in 2023. And then again, in 2024.
And then the final, we get a little sneak of it in 2024, and
then it goes in for good for the next 21 years.
In November of 2024, The 19th to be exact.
And so as all you know real professional astrologers do we
contemplate what is that energy going to be like, what is what
is the essence of the planet? What is the essence of a sign?
How is this going to impact my clients?
What is this going to do? Who's it going to power up?
Who's it? Going to give some crunchy times
to, where they have to make decisions, or they have to let
go of things. And like I was saying, when it
was going through My first house, I had to let go of my
ideas around the social and cultural beliefs, I adopted as
part of my identity. One of those is you get married,
you have kids, I was married. The marriage wasn't working out.
I blamed myself for that in that marriage, you know, at that time
I was young, you know, first of all and I everybody was But you
know, takes to and I overtook responsibility for my part and
and then I swung the other way where it was everybody else's
fault. And then I realized a lot of
what felt like it was destroyed because so many people, you
know. Divorce it's bad.
You know. It's bad as Saint staying in a
really dysfunctional situation where your mental health is
harmed. Okay, not being happy is
horrendous and the thoughts that would go through my head back
then, with things like, you know, I'm just a selfish woman.
How dare I want to be free? I was not the me, you know, that
that experience is what made me me.
And every time I thought those thoughts, you know, every time
like I'm going to make this work, I'm gonna fight for this
all those stupid tropes. My life, just everything would
fall apart harder, you know, until there really wasn't a lot
of options, but get out of Dodge and even and trying to control
everything trying to make the world fit, my lens trying to get
people to see things. The way I saw on getting people
to agree with me needing people to like me feeling.
Like I was some kind of monster because people were intimidated
by me and often keeping Quiet until I just erupted.
So of course, I scared the shit out of people.
You might identify with some of that stuff, right?
Might identify with some of it. If you've gone through these
Pluto transits where you're questioning, you know, like what
kind of woman am I? Or what kind of man am I are?
How can I do that? Or how could I want to not be in
this situation? Why doesn't this person love me?
Understand me. Why can't they see who I am?
Well, I couldn't see who I was. First of all.
All second of all. I they couldn't see themselves,
you know, and so just kind of rocking and rolling through that
and needing to find the cause getting to the bottom of things
figuring it out and I am so grateful that astrology like
slammed into the my life and that I can teach it to other
people and explain things to other people.
Just so you can try to make some sense of it because There's a
lot more to Heaven and Earth than are social and cultural
conditioning. And Pluto kind of comes through
that a bit like a Wrecking Ball, but, you know, wrecking balls,
take down buildings that aren't safe to be in.
And when we have ideas about ourselves that aren't safe for
us when we pigeonhole ourselves, when we're living our life in
boxes. And you know what, the only box
you need in life is the one you get at the end.
Pluto isn't trying to take you out.
It's trying to take out the things that cease your real true
honest-to-god, living, stop fearing, Pluto, and a lean into
the power. It's telling you to own your not
greedy. If you're ambitious power isn't
about over dominance, that is the lowest Vibe of that.
Okay. The highest Vibe Is possessing
yourself being If possessed centered understanding you have
agency Rising into the person that you were Soul determined,
you would be and getting rid of the Flotsam and the Jetsam that
impedes it. Okay, that's my soapbox.
I'm sticking to it so quickly and let's just talk.
Well, when this up talking a little bit about the midterms
because yes, there is politics involved were looking at.
We won't have all the answers. Answers until December I talked
about that in the last podcast. I know I did or at least all
I've string somewhere. I'm hoping the Democrats week
through the majority in the house.
It's like I don't know that they will maybe maybe I would worry
bober was supposed to lose and they're like 50/50 what the hell
happened? I think if we see a doj
announcement on the 11th which might happen but it's a federal
holiday Today. So I don't know, we'll see.
But if we did I think it's over voting your regularity I don't
think we're going to see indictments on Trump until later
this month or December. Who holds the house is not going
to stop the doj at this point but they are they're going to
start handing them out like candy.
And I think some, you know, a Of them.
The mega people didn't get reelected, those that did will
probably find themselves served if they were involved in the
January 6 incidents because Insurrection is big deal.
And so don't think they're going to go without without
consequence. I do believe they will and I
think maybe some of the Constitutional stuff is maybe
trials might start up in January, there could be supreme
court stuff ice. Still have my eye on Clarence
Thomas, having some kind of consequence.
I see there's some stuff going to happen in there.
I don't know that, you'll be removed from the bench, I don't
know, but maybe they'll be an investigation.
I don't know. You know, the thing is is we
keep clamoring for answers but you have to remember there's a
whole machine working. All right.
We may not hear anything, but we'll see because treason is a
big deal because this wasn't just like, oh, you know, Oh,
test. This was treason.
So they tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power and
that and there's probably foreign involvement.
And so with those things I think we will see plenty of
indictments, not just Donald Trump.
And again, if you want to know my thoughts on that, I talked a
lot about it for patrons only. It's there, that is how I stand
on that. But it will be a litigious
November because we've got Mercury moving into Sagittarius.
And then we have Venus moving in to Sagittarius right behind it
on the 17th and that is just going to be.
It's very political, it's full of law, debate rules procedures
and it's juicing up a little bit American Girl in there.
So, wish Merry Christmas. Garland, a happy birthday on the
13th. I don't have a birth time occur
but his Jupiter was hit by the added clips and that's a good
thing. Remember when I made the call
that he'd make an announcement in July and he did, it was
between July and August. Oh yeah, so I said it would be
like July but it was early August so I think because I
don't have his birth time, right.
It's hard to give like timing on him but he got that it Clips
like an illuminated, his Jupiter, which is a freaking
fantastic. And I think we'll see towards
maybe, maybe, since I'm thinking it'll be like the 14th through
the 22nd. Maybe it'll be a little closer
end of December, but I see him coming.
I see him coming. I see him coming and I just from
his placements, I don't need to know the house is just just
looking at his placement. I think, I think, I think he's
the man for the job, and I'm really hoping and praying.
I'm right on that one. That one I want to be right
about because, well, it impacts our daily living, doesn't it
like down with Fascism. And with that I think I'll love
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