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Welcome back to the awake. 
Space astrology, podcast. 

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I'm Lori rivers with you. 
I'm your host, and I'm here to 

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help you with some inspiration 
to get your aspirations out in 

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the world. 
We are post, Eclipse, we are 

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post midterms and in this 
episode, I am dedicating the 

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entire episode to Pluto. 
This will be a little education 

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in the astrology factor and 
we're going to talk about Pluto 

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the planet, why? 
It's not a Durational Planet, 

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why we want to refer to it as a 
transpersonal planet and some of

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the things I've been 
contemplating about this planet.

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People used to ask me, does the 
NASA designation mean anything? 

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No, because NASA is astronomy, 
not astrology. 

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So let's talk about Pluto, shall
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So Pluto is often a very feared 
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astrology, especially in popular
astrology circles. 

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Because the Pluto in Leo era, 
Folk, Decided to label it. 

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The destroyer and it's really 
not, it can feel that way, but 

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it's really forced Evolution, 
which was the Pluto in Gemini 

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and Pluto in cancer era, folks. 
Original interpretation. 

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You have to remember we as 
astrologers have not had a full 

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Pluto cycle to do our 
observations. 

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Chesley as astrologers doing our
observations. 

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Now, the old-timey astrologers 
and those of us who were trained

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in those traditions and I'm 
talking like the medieval 

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astrologers like William Lily 
and Copernicus, Galileo, and 

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people like that wrote their 
observations of the times, 

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right? 
Of what was going on. 

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What celestial body. 
They were attributing things too

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and it doesn't mean, Those 
things are gospel, you know? 

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That's the other thing people 
like well, they said this, that 

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was their observations. 
You want to study from that. 

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Okay, but it wasn't the end, all
be all because we all have a 

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social cultural lens that were 
perceiving our reality from. 

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So a lot of the 20th century and
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astrologers love to go back in 
history pre Pluto Discovery 

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before it was in our 
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historical acts like the French 
Revolution to Pluto in Aquarius 

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and I don't think that is a very
good practice. 

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You have to remember we have 
really solid ground with Saturn,

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why? 
Saturn was visible to the naked 

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eye for human beings. 
For the whole of our existence. 

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We've had a lot of time to 
observe and correlate and Make 

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note. 
Now, our understanding of things

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may evolve as our understanding 
of the world evolves, but I 

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don't think you can look back in
the past and say, oh, that's 

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because of that planetary 
Transit, especially if we 

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weren't living through it, we 
weren't sensing the energy in 

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our bodies. 
We weren't experiencing these 

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transits to ourselves. 
That personal experience helps 

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reading a lot of clients, you 
know. 

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So Pluto until 1930 was in our 
super subconscious, it was like 

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really super subconscious. 
We're talking way 12th house 

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here. 
Where you're really not aware of

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the issues and we've given a lot
of designations to ruler ships 

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with Pluto. 
We've given a lot of, you know, 

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we've assigned it, a lot of 
values that I just don't think 

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we're wise and I think 
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to think we were kind of dumb 
and here's why we call Pluto a 

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generational planet. 
And the reason for that is 

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because the astrologers of the 
time, especially, you know, from

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the 40s 50s 60s 70s, we're going
to be able to live through At 

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minimum, if they live to be an 
old person five signs if not 

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six, okay? 
And we have some people going to

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7, the people who were born at 
the very tail. 

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End of the Pluto and cancer era 
are living in to if they're 

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lucky into the Pluto and 
Aquarius era. 

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And that is because since 
Pluto's quote-unquote Discovery 

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until it came into our 
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It was going through the fastest
part of its orbit. 

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OK Pluto moves through its orbit
in 248 years but it is 

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irregular. 
So I was born and at the end the

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last 10 degrees of Pluto and 
Virgo I've lived through Pluto 

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and Virgo, Pluto and Libra play.
Udo in, Scorpio, Pluto and Sach.

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Pluto in Capricorn, I will most 
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Aquarius where it starts to slow
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Okay, and then, Pluto, in 
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ends in 2068 when Pluto moves 
into Aries, if I should live. 

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Lon I will be 99 years old. 
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that old I might but it would be
rare and then I will have lived 

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through 28 Pluto moving through 
the science. 

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But you see from Pluto in Aries 
to Pluto in Taurus you pull up 

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my phone because I was taking 
notes, I've made a tick top for 

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this go like it. 
If you're not following me on 

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Tick, Tock you need to You know 
they're suppressing My Views 

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just I'll talk about that later.
So Pluto and Aquarius is a 

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21-year Transit. 
Pluto in Pisces is 26 years. 

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Pluto, in Aries is 30 years, 
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okay? 
That's from 2098 until 2138 and 

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then Things start speeding up a 
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In Gemini is a 19-year Transit. 
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generational because a 
generation is technically 20 

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years and then Pluto in cancer 
is 26 years, okay? 

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So that's the slowest part of 
the orbit. 

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So a child born in 2024 would be
21 when Pluto, enters Pisces and

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then what 46, when Pluto, enters
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Anders Taurus, and they wouldn't
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tourists. 
So that's one, two three. 

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They lived through for signs. 
That Pluto is transiting Do you 

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hear me on this? 
So we can't call the Pluto eras 

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or the Pluto transits. 
All right, we can't call those 

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Generations because if we go to 
what we've lived through you 

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know, Pluto entered a query or 
sorry, Pluto entered Leo in 1939

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and for 17 years, it was in that
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Then it moved to Virgo. 
It moved into Virgo at what 1956

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might have been 58? 
F to look again. 

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Years of Pluto in Virgo. 
And then Pluto in Libra was 11 

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years, Pluto in Scorpio was 12 
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Pluto, in sad was 12 years, 
Pluto in Capricorn starting to 

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slow down again, 16 years. 
So you see on a lot of blogs 

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because you get young people or 
younger astrologers and and 

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again it's a little bit of 
hubris. 

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It's kind of like the what the 
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Oh, this is my lifetime. 
Therefore, it must be this but 

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you see that's dangerous when 
you're interpreting astrology 

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because our lens colors are 
interpretation. 

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Okay. 
So all that it's a generation. 

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Well, Kind of kind of not, it's 
better to call Pluto a 

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transpersonal planet, okay. 
It is not in your foundational 

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personality. 
It is how the authority of the 

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world impacted you. 
It's about the the social 

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cultural programming that you 
adopted or and and how you wield

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power within that structure, how
you don't, okay, a It's about 

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what needed to change and 
transform at the time of your 

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birth and how you carry that 
energy with you, okay? 

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And it is about how we evolve 
forward if you want to read some

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good information about Pluto, 
Jeffrey wolf, green or wrote 

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some great books on this. 
I was so lucky to study with him

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he was phenomenal evolutionary 
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And the reason I say I'm a 
progressive evolutionary 

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astrologer is because I wanted 
to kind of remove the 

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patriarchal thinking out of out 
of that wonderful work because 

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and people nobody wants to admit
the patriarchy inside of 

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themselves because we associated
with negativity and we don't 

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want to be that bad person. 
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Jeffrey wolf, green was about, 
my folks is age. 

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You know, I think it was a 
little bit older than my parents

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and and they didn't see anything
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They saw very divided lines 
between what men do and what 

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women do and what makes a man. 
A man I want makes a woman a 

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woman and you know those social 
cultural assignments, okay. 

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And even though they were 
questioning the authority of 

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before them, you know they just 
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our gig now And so I would still
read it, always read everything.

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Even, you know, listen, I read 
everything with a grain of salt.

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Use your discernment, okay? 
I don't want everybody to take 

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my word as gospel. 
I may speak with confidence. 

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I don't know everything. 
I don't, I'm really smart. 

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I've studied a lot of things, 
but I am not the font of wisdom.

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Okay, I'm not. 
I love to explore ideas and it's

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been really bothering me 
watching popular astrology on 

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Tik-Tok YouTube blogs, things 
like that but they're like it's 

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a generational planet and its 
really nice transpersonal. 

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It's beyond our individual self 
and are we kind of carry that 

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Collective desire to transform 
or fight against transformation?

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It can go either way and we can 
have both of those going. 

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Either ways inside of us. 
Sometimes were traditional is 

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the one area and sometimes we 
want to move things forward, you

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know. 
Um you know I look at our gender

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conversations, you know, as much
as I believe people can be who 

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they are. 
Okay and if someone feels they 

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are a certain gender and want to
identify and identify with that 

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gender. 
I don't have a problem with that

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but I will point out we still 
have Of the social bias of the 

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makeup and the hair and the 
clothes, or the lack of makeup 

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and hair and the clothes, 
depending on which gender one is

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identifying with. 
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social gender Norm will gain 
more notice than people who are,

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like, I just want to be me in 
the gender I am and I'm not 

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going to conform in the uniform.
I'm not saying it's bad. 

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You see in a farm I'm just kind 
of just saying we're still then 

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identifying with gender norms 
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Now I mean where we are all of 
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Born now, all of us living now 
are living through the fastest, 

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part of that Pluto Transit, and 
that's why we've lived through 

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such volatility, that's why 
we've lived through such 

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volatility, socially, 
culturally, technology 

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technologically, we've just, you
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blazing speed, and that's why 
there's backlash. 

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So when you look at like the 
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group, and again, I'm born 
towards the tail end of that, 

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but you'll notice we're almost 
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Well, Virgo is ruled by Mercury.
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And there are those who are 
fighting against social change, 

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and I was thinking about this. 
The other day, I was like, why 

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are half of gen xers? 
Has either a complete 

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bootlicker, conservative Nazis. 
And why are half of us, you 

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know, very rebellious and very, 
it's not even half. 

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I'd say a third, a third, a 
third, like a third of us are 

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very rebellious and very much 
activists. 

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A third are kind of apathetic 
and a third are just really 

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against any kind of social 
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And then you go back and you're 
like, well, because a lot of our

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parents were either like you 
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conservative movement, let's 
kind of driven by us in some 

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ways because it was so 
willy-nilly in the 70s. 

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There was so much drug use in 
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alcohol, abuse. 
Nobody nobody talked about 

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people being alcoholics it. 
It was normal for people to have

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martinis every night and drink, 
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It was normal for people to lock
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And I think when the 
conservative churches are moving

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in the 80s, during the Pluto, 
and Scorpio people were drawn to

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that security in that safety. 
So what does this have to do 

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with Pluto a lot? 
A lot, you know, because it was 

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what needed to change things 
were kind of wild and out of 

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control and Their society was 
changing so rapidly during Pluto

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and Libra. 
And then again in Pluto and 

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Scorpio and there was a backlash
to that because there wasn't a 

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safety net. 
So people found safety in a very

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controlling environment and so 
that third of us who felt secure

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their okay or felt power there 
because remember Pluto's about 

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power. 
So some people felt power in 

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that structure. 
Other people didn't like that 

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part. 
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I was very, very young and and 
like, a baby and my great 

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grandma took me every weekend 
and I went to church with her 

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Election Day. 
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killing them in 1980, that was a
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and I had a really strong 
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You know she took me to church. 
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Evangelical. 
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wasn't super controlling. 
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part of the church too much. 
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school but I really liked 
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the sermons, I was always really
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well-versed in the religion. 
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religious, but then when I was 
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really uncomfortable with it 
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space anymore. 
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kind of very judgmental, and 
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When I couldn't talk about the 
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just hit all my don't tell 
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the church. 
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My grandmother on my dad's side 
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outdated and I eventually left 
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livestreams, the reason I bring 
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was really contemplating the 
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That were really controlling? 
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I left, okay? 
I was like, well, because I had 

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a Loving secure childhood 
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me there. 
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I'm resilient even though there 
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there was abuse going on, I 
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people. 
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security, and so, I didn't need 
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organization. 
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space for white. 
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had violence, if they had, you 
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around them. 
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that stricter, environment, like
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Friend growing up an Aries for 
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She grew up in a Pentecostal, 
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they were conservative before. 
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are dear friends to this day. 
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12 and he used to say you know, 
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would have been way too wild. 
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trouble and this was when we 
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understand it then, and as an 
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met, a lot of people seen a lot 
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I'm like, you know, maybe she 
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Maybe that was exactly what she 
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ended up not being as 
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She still is not a Trumper at 
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She's kind of old school on 
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But and I could see why giving I
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childhood. 
It's not my story to tell. 

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I know what happened? 
I know why she needed that kind 

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of very safe controlled space 
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say these people are stupid, 
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I don't think they are. 
I think, I think they're scared 

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and I think when you're afraid 
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life-and-death issues, that's 
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The Destroyer, it's those big 
transformational events and for 

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some people, they will liberate 
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They will outcome eyes from it. 
They will come up bigger, better

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and stronger. 
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that conservative route, maybe 
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transformed it. 
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Transformation on the inside is 
an inside job and you can think,

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you know, better for somebody 
but you're not, you don't know. 

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Their souls intent. 
Okay, you don't know. 

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Am I trying to tell you? 
They're all good people a whole 

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lot. 
I'm not, I'm just saying 

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sometimes we need to think about
these things. 

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From a different perspective. 
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at things differently and so 
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on Pluto, as force of 
evolutionary change and it's 

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going to make sense that people 
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Is there going to be you know 
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Extreme Ways because it's an 
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It's forcing change its forcing 
Evolution but it's really in my 

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opinion it's fear is not useful.
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Rising. 
I've Pluto in the 10th house is 

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conjunct myself node fear 
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It really does. 
It kind of makes me get angry. 

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I don't I don't I like to be 
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Because I know that when I'm 
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And I'm not making good 
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And, and that goes for 
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make the amygdala, I can speak 
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Part of our brain, our Primal 
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always make good decisions. 
There's times, it's a good 

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thing. 
Bear is chasing. 

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You good thing to have an 
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If you have to fight somebody, 
it's good to have it. 

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If you need to run away, it's 
great stuff, but that constant 

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fear of change doesn't help. 
We were born for these times, we

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were born for this change and 
the way we can see it with the 

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Pluto irregular orbit of 240 
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Pluto and Leo to Pluto in 
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experienced in a lifetime. 
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Right? 
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lifetime for immense amount of 
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no one writes out the dates for 
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none of us alive are going to 
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Okay? 
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dates for the longest part of 
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It's Daisy. 
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my software. 
I use solar fired. 

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That's in that Tick-Tock video 
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I had to run my software to show
that. 

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So let me go back to my notes. 
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got 21 years and put on an 
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Now, that's going to start 
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Being society and then reshaping
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Pisces, which is 20, it starts 
in 2043 at ends in 2068 and then

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and it starts getting weird for 
me when I start looking out past

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Pluto, entering Aries because I 
know I won't be here for this 

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and when you're 53, you kind of 
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differently than when you're in 
your 20s. 

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You like I know I'm already past
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So so, you know, 30 years, you 
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and then 40 years later in 
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and then, Pluto and cancer 
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That's just A long ways away. 
It's it's a long ways away. 

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It's almost hard to conceive of 
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And so we're the transformation 
of moving things forward. 

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And then things will most likely
make some change. 

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But stabilizing forces will see.
Will it be stable in our 

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lifetime? 
I economically? 

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Yeah, I think I think we'll see 
some more collectivism. 

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I think we'll probably also see 
you some better fixes for the 

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environment as well. 
I think will innovate. 

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I think we'll have to I do See, 
you know, I do see Silver, 

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Linings to the time we live in 
and I see the things eventually 

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stabilize out. 
It won't be as volatile as the 

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time we're living in because we 
are in a great time of change, 

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and we were all born for it. 
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about Pluto, both from a mundane
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perspective, it's important not 
to call it a generational 

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Planet, because I think we need 
to switch the lens into how we 

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evolve and how each era and 
that's why you'll notice I call 

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it an era and I say it's a 
transpersonal planet because how

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we speak about things matters 
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the Mercury rule chart but how 
we speak of about things matters

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because it changes how we think 
about ourselves, I say you are a

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Divine being Being notice, I 
don't like the divine feminine 

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Divine masculine talk because I 
think it's patriarchy packaged 

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with the bow. 
I think is trying to get people 

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to fit into boxes that no longer
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Gender is a human concept. 
It's not necessarily A Divine 

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concept, okay? 
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the Universe, I think it's so 
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Okay. 
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what you wear that is culturally
its own thing. 

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Okay every culture is different 
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Centric and we're very few. 
People got white culture. 

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I how and somebody who studied 
lots of different things? 

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I don't know that I think there 
is a white culture. 

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I think there is a manufacturer 
thing that I don't I don't know,

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I never fit into it so maybe 
that's why I see it that way 

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because then I do see those 
people and I'm like, oh yeah, 

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those would be probably never 
got along with because I don't 

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fit in with them, you know, like
the mayonnaise and and the 

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football parties and the 
suburbs. 

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And oh, I once stayed in a 
suburb talk about Pluto and 

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Rebellion, I'm I went stayed in 
a suburb and My skin hurt. 

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It literally hurt and I was 
like, I can't do this, so I 

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guess maybe because I don't fit 
into it is why I'm like I don't 

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get that because my family 
retained even though we've been 

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here a long time, we retained a 
lot of our cultural identities 

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and I think that makes a 
difference. 

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If you don't tell stories, if 
you don't know where you came 

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from mild and you're going to 
have to identify with something.

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And I think that's why these 
people hold on to it. 

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You can tell. 
I've been contemplating I've 

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been contemplating I need to 
take a break and let's, let's 

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revisit this here in a second. 
I know I'm rambling, but I'm 

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trying to get to something. 
I want you to understand the 

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depth of Pluto and the richness 
of that evolutionary force and 

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that it's not something to fear.
So I'm going to take a break and

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then we'll do a patron. 
Shout-out. 

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I'll come back to Pluto and then
I'll talk a little bit more 

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about what's going to go on 
November and what we could 

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expect through the rest of you 
know the next week or so. 

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It's time for my favorite part 
of the show. 

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We're going to give a patron 
shout out without patrons. 

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There would be no show. 
So I want to give you all a big 

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hug if I could. 
I cannot wait till these 

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pandemic days over, we're gonna 
give shoutouts to our newest 

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Peak friends. 
We've got Michelle. 

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We've got Taylor Cody, Tammy and
Tony. 

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Nia Larisa, Jennifer, Laura, 
Catherine, Jesse so Natori. 

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That's a beautiful name. 
So Natori a lie. 

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Marlene Tabby Dana or Donna. 
Drea Sheila. 

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Carolyn and maybe she'll up 
Carolyn Carolyn so we've got 

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Carolyn tea and Carolyn P. 
Meghan Jen Hannah Bailey Susanna

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Janice banana Shannon Susan 
Roslin or Rosalind Mina Let me 

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see this. 
Why? 

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I gotta get my reading glasses 
on Rose Moon. 

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Miranda, we're going to do this 
name again and I got it right 

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the last time Cara, did carrot. 
Carrot carried when I did it 

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wrong this time. 
I know I got it right. 

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Last time, Paloma Kelly 
Samantha, Melissa Caitlin, 

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Alyssa Alexa Cara, Cara or Cara 
Wonderlic 111, Terran. 

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Tanya Tina shit's getting real 
Corrin Beth Courtney. 

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And Jackie I want to thank all 
of you, for being patrons. 

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Thank you all. 
That little grown was Malcolm 

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because he almost knocked my 
computer over. 

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He almost did but we caught it. 
It's cold tonight in Southern 

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California and so he is making 
himself one with the mom. 

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If you haven't met Malcolm, 
Malcolm is my dog and he 

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sometimes appears with me on 
live streams. 

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If you're a patron, speaking of 
patrons, I put up the live 

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stream from election night with 
our calm Vibes, going to try to 

445
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get more of those up. 
It just takes a hot minute to do

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and I hate getting you so many 
emails. 

447
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I want you to open the ones that
do come. 

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You want to open all of the 
emails you get from me because 

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they always have something in 
there. 

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That's worth it. 
But the crunch reports always 

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have the special discounts and 
if you're a patron, you get $75 

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off natal readings with 
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And if you haven't listened to 
their interviews, you want to go

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back about what, three, four 
episodes and you'll find their 

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interviews and you can hear 
about them. 

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I'll have them on the podcast 
again, and you can book with 

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them. 
You want to book up because we 

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do tend to book out so save 75 
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If you're a patron, you're not a
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460
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can save 75 bucks on needle 
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Things with Mackenzie and Casey 
you're not getting, you're not 

462
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getting less of an astrologer in
them. 

463
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:27,500
I just need time to do the 
consultative readings. 

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That just take take more work 
and the natal readings are the 

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first step and you are getting 
excellent. 

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Excellent astrologers in 
Mackenzie and Casey 

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Speaking of Patron goodies, you 
know, you get 50% off the next 

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round of the 2023 year ahead. 
Seminar, I did it back in June 

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and that was just getting you 
ready. 

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Because I knew that after July, 
everything was just gonna fly. 

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Next thing. 
You knew it. 

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We'd be in 2023. 
I wasn't even sure. 

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I have time in my schedule to do
this. but I was a smart pee 

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pants and back then I slowed my 
schedule down so so that I 

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wasn't get slammed because I 
don't like it and slammed so I 

476
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slowed my own self down a little
bit and so I do have time and on

477
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the 26th of November, I'm going 
to do an update to my year ahead

478
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,800
and I Got some of that in the 
last podcast when I was talking 

479
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,800
about the Constitutional crisis,
we have upcoming in January and 

480
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some other stuffs coming up and 
of course, March, because arch 

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of 2023. 
We are, we we've never seen 

482
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anything like it in our 
lifetimes so it should be 

483
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fascinating. 
It can be a really good two 

484
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guys, it doesn't have to be bad 
and it's not just because Pluto,

485
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Oh, is ingressing into Aquarius?
That alone is a lot but we have 

486
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,100
Saturn moving into Pisces and 
we've got Mars weaving into 

487
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:36,300
cancer. 
And oh, boy 20:23 is kind of a 

488
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:41,300
turning point year and so yeah 
there's that. 

489
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So if you want to join me and 
save 50% joining the patreon, 

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all patrons get access to that 
discount no matter what level 

491
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And my patreon is pretty 
reasonable giving the cost of 

492
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inflation. 
We may raise things a little 

493
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,400
bit. 
Now if you're a patron and I 

494
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,600
raised the tears, it doesn't 
impact you, okay. 

495
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,900
So if you've been on the fence, 
you want to join before January 

496
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:17,400
of twenty twenty-three because I
am going to raise the tears or 

497
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add in a tear and and unpublish 
the The old tear and I'll 

498
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,400
probably go to like 5 and 15. 
Okay? 

499
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,700
Right now it's 3 and 11. 
All right, you know, it's been 

500
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that way for two years but I too
have to buy groceries. 

501
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:46,200
I like to have things to do and 
so also will be looking at 

502
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,200
adjusting the prices on readings
as well, because you know, the 

503
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,400
other astrologers don't do this.
For free. 

504
00:37:53,300 --> 00:38:00,100
I make sure everybody gets their
fair share and so, but if you're

505
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:06,000
a current client, I'm going to 
make sure that you keep the 

506
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2022, pricing through 2023. 
And so if you've been a client 

507
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:16,600
with us, we have your emails and
we'll get you the coupon codes. 

508
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,000
You need to keep your prices 
with me so don't freak out. 

509
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,500
Okay. 
Okay, I try to make it as Fair 

510
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,900
as I can. 
I have a Libra moon in the 11th 

511
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:31,400
house so there is that. 
Now let's talk a little more 

512
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,300
about Pluto and why I was 
contemplating all of this and 

513
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:40,000
what in it, just bothers me that
astrologers in the future going 

514
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
to be like, oh my God, they were
so dumb. 

515
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,500
Why did they look at it this 
way? 

516
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:50,700
And think of it from their 
perspective, if you are born 

517
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:55,100
with Pluto and Pisces, These, 
which is a 30-year run, you 

518
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:58,400
know, our 25-year run. 
And then there's Pluto and Aries

519
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,000
and it's 30 years. 
And then Pluto and tourists, 

520
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,500
imagine those people born at the
beginning of Pluto and Taurus, 

521
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:09,200
they find astrology in their 20s
halfway through the Pluto and 

522
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,300
tourist Transit and they read 
through some of the 20th century

523
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:18,900
literature, the 21st century 
literature and they're like, 

524
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,100
what were these people on? 
You know, and so that bothers 

525
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,800
me. 
I'm like, well I don't want them

526
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,400
to think of that about me. 
I don't want them to think I was

527
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,100
dumb. 
But there are those of us 

528
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:35,300
especially evolutionary 
astrologers and and Progressive 

529
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,100
evolutionary astrologers and 
there's a handful of us on the 

530
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,700
planet. 
And I think I'm the only one who

531
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:46,900
calls myself that who call it a 
transpersonal planet, you know? 

532
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:51,000
It's transpersonal and a 
transpersonal planet. 

533
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,800
Is it some it's beyond you, it's
bigger than you, you're carrying

534
00:39:56,100 --> 00:40:01,900
the energy of an era inside of 
you and so you know and their 

535
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,900
first part of this podcast, I 
was talking about you know, just

536
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:11,100
my own group of people like why 
did they turn out that way? 

537
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:14,800
You know, I can always get along
with my peers because there were

538
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,000
those who were extreme 
conformists and a lot of us who 

539
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,800
didn't conform Necessarily Vibe.
We were all into different 

540
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,700
things. 
We didn't necessarily not Vibe 

541
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,400
either, and then you always have
the apathetic and I think you 

542
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,600
have that pathetic in every 
group, right? 

543
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,300
And just some are different than
other site. 

544
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:40,600
Every era is colored by the 
astrological, whether in which 

545
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,600
they were born. 
We carry that inside of us and 

546
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,100
there's so much fear around 
Pluto. 

547
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,400
And I have lived a significant 
amount of Pluto. 

548
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:57,200
That's in this lifetime 
significant significant. 

549
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:04,000
Like I don't remember not living
through what because just the 

550
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000
way my chart is laid out and 
2026 is the first year I get 

551
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,300
without a major Pluto Transit 
and I don't know what I'll do. 

552
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,900
I'm curious about what that will
feel like there tends to be a 

553
00:41:17,908 --> 00:41:22,100
lot of pressure would Pluto 
transits now you might be Well, 

554
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,500
when I was little, I have this 
really bad accident or when I 

555
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:29,000
was in my 20s, I had this like 
life and death event and yes you

556
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,400
did and yet you're here. 
It may have quote unquote, 

557
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,800
destroyed your reality. 
That's why the Pluto and Leo 

558
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,500
folk were like it's the 
Destroyer. 

559
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,500
He feels like it when I was 
going through Pluto in my first 

560
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:48,000
house for like when it crossed 
by ascendant man at yeah it was 

561
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,300
a really hard time in my life. 
Probably the first. 

562
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,800
Half of that transit. 
In fact, won't know the whole of

563
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,700
that Transit was hard because a 
lot of the things I believed 

564
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:04,800
about myself weren't true and 
they had to fall away. 

565
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,700
And they were like X, it was 
like an existential crisis that 

566
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,900
just didn't seem to end and 
that's how I came into 

567
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:15,600
astrology. 
Okay, Mackenzie, and I actually 

568
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,200
talked about that. 
I'll link that episode in. 

569
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,400
In fact, I'll make it so easy 
for you guys. 

570
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:27,000
Find the interviews with Casey 
and Mackenzie because Mackenzie 

571
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200
had a life-altering event. 
It was a big, Pluto Transit. 

572
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,300
We talked about it in that 
episode and yeah, you know, it 

573
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:39,100
was life altering its how she 
got into metaphysics it's how 

574
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,000
should started studying 
astrology. 

575
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:48,600
It's something that put her on 
her, North Node path and she is 

576
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:54,100
an immensely powerful Russian. 
I don't even think she realizes 

577
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,400
how powerful she is. 
I look forward to seeing her 

578
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:04,000
grow in confidence and 
understanding wisdom. 

579
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,100
She carries. 
It's beautiful. 

580
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,700
That's why we all love mcdo 
boobs. 

581
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,500
Yeah. 
So and every single one of these

582
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,200
astrologers are trained, is 
remarkable. 

583
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,600
You know, Casey lived through. 
Without going over, it's a 

584
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,400
tough. 
Tough Transit. 

585
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,600
You have Pluto, aspecting, the 
Moon by transit, and if you're 

586
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,900
not sure it, now, this is where 
people get confused. 

587
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:36,600
When I talk about needle 
placement sites from your birth 

588
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,400
chart, the transits, you know, 
the planets, and the celestial 

589
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,900
bodies, they keep moving, okay? 
And so, when we talk about 

590
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:50,800
transits, never say my, so, like
I had somebody say my clips. 

591
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:55,700
On the on the livestream. 
And I give them a little quick 

592
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:58,000
correction and it's not me being
a jerk. 

593
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,600
It's just, we have a 
nomenclature and so the eclipse 

594
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,400
had this impact on me. 
If you say my Eclipse, well, 

595
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,200
it's not just your Eclipse that 
most of the globe saw the 

596
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,200
eclipse. 
Okay. 

597
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,300
So your experience of that 
energy was and I know people 

598
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:16,200
like well, but that's what I 
meant. 

599
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,100
Yeah, I know but it makes it 
confusing later if you want to 

600
00:44:21,108 --> 00:44:25,000
study Eddie. 
So when you say my so like my 

601
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:33,500
Pluto is in Virgo in the 10th 
house, Okay, Transit, Pluto is 

602
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:37,100
in Capricorn. 
It's in my third house now, 

603
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:41,900
which I realized that's why I 
was having issues writing. 

604
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:45,700
It's not destroyed my writing, 
I've had to change how I do 

605
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:47,600
things. 
I've had to transform my 

606
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,800
writing. 
I've had to kind of let go of 

607
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,300
the methods and the models. 
I've always used right? 

608
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,500
And funny enough went through, 
it's a first-year play. 

609
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,400
It up. 
What's in my third house? 

610
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,900
I went through two cars. 
Some got a third but you know 

611
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:08,300
what it did is the first car. 
I didn't really want in the 

612
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:14,700
first place but it's what I had 
the second car that got eaten by

613
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:20,000
rats, believe it or not long 
story, super not fun explaining 

614
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,700
to your insurance people. 
Los Angeles is crazy for that, I

615
00:45:24,708 --> 00:45:28,600
lived in the woods for 17 years.
Never had a rodent problem. 

616
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,300
Only in Italy. 
But anyway, So, I went through 

617
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:41,300
three cars between 2019 and 2020
2021. 

618
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:46,400
So each year and a half tweet, 
two years and I ended up having 

619
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,600
to buy a new car like a brand 
new car because I could and the 

620
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,100
other cars were like pre-owned. 
And so I bought my very first in

621
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:59,900
part why I had to level up. 
Pluto's Pluto is always telling 

622
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:03,900
you to level up. 
Level up and it's not about the 

623
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,900
circumstances. 
It's about leveling up your 

624
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:11,000
internal power changing, your 
beliefs around things, you're 

625
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:16,300
transforming your alkalizing. 
Let me tell you, I know how to 

626
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:18,500
deal with insurance. 
Now I've never had to make a 

627
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:22,300
claim in my life was crazy 
sauce. 

628
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,700
So it tends to be extreme. 
It could have been more extreme.

629
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,100
I've had much much worse Pluto 
transits than Pluto, entering 

630
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,900
the third house but then over 
this last year, I've noticed in 

631
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:41,800
the writing you know I had some 
bad news on my Vision in 2021 

632
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,200
and I was lamenting that and 
then I found all kinds of ways 

633
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:53,000
to make that easier on myself 
and I had big breakthroughs with

634
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,700
this Eclipse so it was nice. 
And if you didn't that's okay, 

635
00:46:56,700 --> 00:47:01,700
the energy brings out over time 
and energy brings out over time.

636
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:06,500
My thoughts on Pluto are pretty 
strong right now. 

637
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:15,100
Because, you know, we're about 
to get a taste of brief Taste of

638
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:23,700
Pluto in 2023. 
And then again, in 2024. 

639
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:29,700
And then the final, we get a 
little sneak of it in 2024, and 

640
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:34,300
then it goes in for good for the
next 21 years. 

641
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:39,500
In November of 2024, The 19th to
be exact. 

642
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:49,700
And so as all you know real 
professional astrologers do we 

643
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:53,800
contemplate what is that energy 
going to be like, what is what 

644
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,800
is the essence of the planet? 
What is the essence of a sign? 

645
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,100
How is this going to impact my 
clients? 

646
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,700
What is this going to do? 
Who's it going to power up? 

647
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:03,600
Who's it? 
Going to give some crunchy times

648
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,000
to, where they have to make 
decisions, or they have to let 

649
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,100
go of things. 
And like I was saying, when it 

650
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:15,500
was going through My first 
house, I had to let go of my 

651
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:22,600
ideas around the social and 
cultural beliefs, I adopted as 

652
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,900
part of my identity. 
One of those is you get married,

653
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:31,800
you have kids, I was married. 
The marriage wasn't working out.

654
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,200
I blamed myself for that in that
marriage, you know, at that time

655
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,300
I was young, you know, first of 
all and I everybody was But you 

656
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:48,000
know, takes to and I overtook 
responsibility for my part and 

657
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,100
and then I swung the other way 
where it was everybody else's 

658
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,200
fault. 
And then I realized a lot of 

659
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,600
what felt like it was destroyed 
because so many people, you 

660
00:48:57,608 --> 00:48:59,800
know. 
Divorce it's bad. 

661
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,300
You know. 
It's bad as Saint staying in a 

662
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:06,600
really dysfunctional situation 
where your mental health is 

663
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,300
harmed. 
Okay, not being happy is 

664
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:16,700
horrendous and the thoughts that
would go through my head back 

665
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:20,100
then, with things like, you 
know, I'm just a selfish woman. 

666
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:25,200
How dare I want to be free? 
I was not the me, you know, that

667
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,100
that experience is what made me 
me. 

668
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,800
And every time I thought those 
thoughts, you know, every time 

669
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,500
like I'm going to make this 
work, I'm gonna fight for this 

670
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:39,000
all those stupid tropes. 
My life, just everything would 

671
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
fall apart harder, you know, 
until there really wasn't a lot 

672
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,000
of options, but get out of Dodge
and even and trying to control 

673
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,700
everything trying to make the 
world fit, my lens trying to get

674
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:55,500
people to see things. 
The way I saw on getting people 

675
00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:00,600
to agree with me needing people 
to like me feeling. 

676
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,100
Like I was some kind of monster 
because people were intimidated 

677
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:09,700
by me and often keeping Quiet 
until I just erupted. 

678
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,500
So of course, I scared the shit 
out of people. 

679
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:15,400
You might identify with some of 
that stuff, right? 

680
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:17,800
Might identify with some of it. 
If you've gone through these 

681
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,100
Pluto transits where you're 
questioning, you know, like what

682
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,400
kind of woman am I? 
Or what kind of man am I are? 

683
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,100
How can I do that? 
Or how could I want to not be in

684
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,900
this situation? 
Why doesn't this person love me?

685
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,300
Understand me. 
Why can't they see who I am? 

686
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,500
Well, I couldn't see who I was. 
First of all. 

687
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:46,800
All second of all. 
I they couldn't see themselves, 

688
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,600
you know, and so just kind of 
rocking and rolling through that

689
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,000
and needing to find the cause 
getting to the bottom of things 

690
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,800
figuring it out and I am so 
grateful that astrology like 

691
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,100
slammed into the my life and 
that I can teach it to other 

692
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,300
people and explain things to 
other people. 

693
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:14,900
Just so you can try to make some
sense of it because There's a 

694
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:18,400
lot more to Heaven and Earth 
than are social and cultural 

695
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,600
conditioning. 
And Pluto kind of comes through 

696
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,300
that a bit like a Wrecking Ball,
but, you know, wrecking balls, 

697
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:27,500
take down buildings that aren't 
safe to be in. 

698
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,900
And when we have ideas about 
ourselves that aren't safe for 

699
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:36,100
us when we pigeonhole ourselves,
when we're living our life in 

700
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,400
boxes. 
And you know what, the only box 

701
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,200
you need in life is the one you 
get at the end. 

702
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,100
Pluto isn't trying to take you 
out. 

703
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,900
It's trying to take out the 
things that cease your real true

704
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:56,300
honest-to-god, living, stop 
fearing, Pluto, and a lean into 

705
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,100
the power. 
It's telling you to own your not

706
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,200
greedy. 
If you're ambitious power isn't 

707
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,700
about over dominance, that is 
the lowest Vibe of that. 

708
00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:10,300
Okay. 
The highest Vibe Is possessing 

709
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:15,400
yourself being If possessed 
centered understanding you have 

710
00:52:15,408 --> 00:52:21,200
agency Rising into the person 
that you were Soul determined, 

711
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,600
you would be and getting rid of 
the Flotsam and the Jetsam that 

712
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,000
impedes it. 
Okay, that's my soapbox. 

713
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,700
I'm sticking to it so quickly 
and let's just talk. 

714
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:36,500
Well, when this up talking a 
little bit about the midterms 

715
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:41,200
because yes, there is politics 
involved were looking at. 

716
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,300
We won't have all the answers. 
Answers until December I talked 

717
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:47,300
about that in the last podcast. 
I know I did or at least all 

718
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:53,300
I've string somewhere. 
I'm hoping the Democrats week 

719
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:55,200
through the majority in the 
house. 

720
00:52:55,300 --> 00:53:01,100
It's like I don't know that they
will maybe maybe I would worry 

721
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:05,000
bober was supposed to lose and 
they're like 50/50 what the hell

722
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,200
happened? 
I think if we see a doj 

723
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,300
announcement on the 11th which 
might happen but it's a federal 

724
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:14,800
holiday Today. 
So I don't know, we'll see. 

725
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:18,600
But if we did I think it's over 
voting your regularity I don't 

726
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,700
think we're going to see 
indictments on Trump until later

727
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:30,500
this month or December. 
Who holds the house is not going

728
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:37,100
to stop the doj at this point 
but they are they're going to 

729
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:38,800
start handing them out like 
candy. 

730
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:43,200
And I think some, you know, a Of
them. 

731
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,300
The mega people didn't get 
reelected, those that did will 

732
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:50,700
probably find themselves served 
if they were involved in the 

733
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:55,400
January 6 incidents because 
Insurrection is big deal. 

734
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,500
And so don't think they're going
to go without without 

735
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:03,500
consequence. 
I do believe they will and I 

736
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:07,000
think maybe some of the 
Constitutional stuff is maybe 

737
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:10,800
trials might start up in 
January, there could be supreme 

738
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,400
court stuff ice. 
Still have my eye on Clarence 

739
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,300
Thomas, having some kind of 
consequence. 

740
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,700
I see there's some stuff going 
to happen in there. 

741
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,000
I don't know that, you'll be 
removed from the bench, I don't 

742
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,900
know, but maybe they'll be an 
investigation. 

743
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:28,700
I don't know. 
You know, the thing is is we 

744
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,300
keep clamoring for answers but 
you have to remember there's a 

745
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:33,300
whole machine working. 
All right. 

746
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:38,700
We may not hear anything, but 
we'll see because treason is a 

747
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:42,600
big deal because this wasn't 
just like, oh, you know, Oh, 

748
00:54:42,608 --> 00:54:44,000
test. 
This was treason. 

749
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:51,100
So they tried to stop the 
peaceful transfer of power and 

750
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:54,500
that and there's probably 
foreign involvement. 

751
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:59,000
And so with those things I think
we will see plenty of 

752
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
indictments, not just Donald 
Trump. 

753
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:04,600
And again, if you want to know 
my thoughts on that, I talked a 

754
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:11,100
lot about it for patrons only. 
It's there, that is how I stand 

755
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:15,500
on that. 
But it will be a litigious 

756
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:21,400
November because we've got 
Mercury moving into Sagittarius.

757
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,900
And then we have Venus moving in
to Sagittarius right behind it 

758
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:28,000
on the 17th and that is just 
going to be. 

759
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:36,300
It's very political, it's full 
of law, debate rules procedures 

760
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:39,900
and it's juicing up a little bit
American Girl in there. 

761
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:43,600
So, wish Merry Christmas. 
Garland, a happy birthday on the

762
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,200
13th. 
I don't have a birth time occur 

763
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,600
but his Jupiter was hit by the 
added clips and that's a good 

764
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,200
thing. 
Remember when I made the call 

765
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,700
that he'd make an announcement 
in July and he did, it was 

766
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,300
between July and August. 
Oh yeah, so I said it would be 

767
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:07,000
like July but it was early 
August so I think because I 

768
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,700
don't have his birth time, 
right. 

769
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:12,700
It's hard to give like timing on
him but he got that it Clips 

770
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:18,100
like an illuminated, his 
Jupiter, which is a freaking 

771
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:22,700
fantastic. 
And I think we'll see towards 

772
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:26,800
maybe, maybe, since I'm thinking
it'll be like the 14th through 

773
00:56:26,808 --> 00:56:29,100
the 22nd. 
Maybe it'll be a little closer 

774
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:33,300
end of December, but I see him 
coming. 

775
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:37,600
I see him coming. 
I see him coming and I just from

776
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,500
his placements, I don't need to 
know the house is just just 

777
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:45,400
looking at his placement. 
I think, I think, I think he's 

778
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,600
the man for the job, and I'm 
really hoping and praying. 

779
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,500
I'm right on that one. 
That one I want to be right 

780
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:56,000
about because, well, it impacts 
our daily living, doesn't it 

781
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,100
like down with Fascism. 
And with that I think I'll love 

782
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:06,300
you and leave you as always. 
If you are a patron, my heart is

783
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:09,400
totally going up to you. 
Thank you so much. 

784
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Make sure you join the Discord. 
That's Are all the action 

785
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,100
happens. 
That's what those blips and 

786
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,600
beeps are sometimes, when I'm 
recording and sometimes when I'm

787
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,200
on live stream chill here, at 
that's our Discord, it's very 

788
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,700
active. 
It's great. 

789
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:25,500
Community of people. 
It's place to get and give 

790
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,500
support. 
Don't be shy. 

791
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,800
Come in. 
Say hello, introduce yourself. 

792
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:32,200
Nobody's gonna buy. 
All right. 

793
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,000
The rules are pretty simple, 
they're very spelled out and 

794
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,800
they're written out to just 
because rules help us feel 

795
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,300
secure and I just want to invite
Right everyone, to make sure if 

796
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:46,300
your Patron you come to coffee 
with Lori. 

797
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:50,700
Yes, we do record it but you 
know it's way more fun when 

798
00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:54,100
you're there and then let's see 
what else? 

799
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:57,200
Oh your discounts. 
Don't forget to check those out.

800
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Okay guys, now if you're not a 
patron other than join us, join 

801
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,700
us. 
It's a place to be empowered at 

802
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:10,100
the awake space once again. 
Thank you so much for all you do

803
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:14,300
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804
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:15,800
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