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It's the Awake space and I'm 
Lori Rivers, your host here to 

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help you with some inspiration 
to get those aspirations out 

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into the world. 
And for the next couple of 

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weeks, I'm coming to you from 
the UK. 

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That's right, I'm in London last
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I let you in on it. 
I, I moved up my trip by two 

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weeks. 
I extended it by two weeks. 

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I wasn't coming out until after 
the 17th because Matilda, Medium

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Matilda and I are doing an event
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Pacific, 8:00 PM Eastern, the 
17th in Australia at 10 AM 

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Australian Eastern Standard Time
or 1:00 in the morning if you're

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in London like I'll be. 
I wasn't going to come out 

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because I had that event, but I 
took a look at my Venus return 

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and I was like Boyd's juice here
in London. 

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And I went live on Mother's Day 
on TikTok and it was like, you 

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look so well rested. 
Why yes, I did indeed sleep. 

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Thank you very much for 
noticing. 

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Hang on, let's take care of that
pillow. 

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There we go. 
That looks better, doesn't it? 

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All right, I'm calling. 
I'm coming from jolly old 

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England, meeting up with my 
daughter, doing some rebranding,

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getting ourselves. 
We're going to be rebranding all

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year long. 
That's one of the reasons I 

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decided to relocate for my Venus
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being a 10th house, like right 
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And if you don't know astrology,
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But let's put it this way, it 
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we're going with. 
There's no such thing as a bad 

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Venus return. 
It shows where you're most 

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likely to benefit and to receive
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When you look at the house that 
Venus is in, you don't read a 

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return chart the same way you 
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That's one of the biggest 
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they're talking about the 
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They're talking about the 
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versus the actual chart a return
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It's always interesting 
recording on the road. 

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I will be getting a studio to 
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project I'm here working on. 
I know, but for this, we're 

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doing it in the apartment in 
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At this episode, I'm going to be
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location, location, location, 
why locational astrology is one 

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of the oldest forms of astrology
and why you don't have to 

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relocate to have a better return
as well as that's why you might 

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want to like I did it. 
It worked with my goals, right? 

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So when I was looking at getting
my ticket to come out, I 

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decided, hey, wait, I know my 
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Let's take a look. 
What's, what's the difference? 

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And I popped my ticket like 5 
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chart. 
I was like, Nope, Nope. 

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We're relocating because we can.
It would have been good no 

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matter what. 
So again, that's something we're

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going to talk about. 
Why relocating can help, Why? 

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Why sometimes it's absolutely 
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And what you're not seeing a lot
of times without experience, OK,

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experience plays a role in any 
profession because knowledge 

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isn't power unless you know how 
to use it. 

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And how do you know how to use 
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Time and practice making 
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I think my biggest beef with No 
Child Left Behind is it taught 

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people to be very, very afraid 
of making mistakes and not 

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getting the answer right the 
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state testing. 
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the ability to know how to learn
because we learned through trial

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and error and experience. 
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mistakes because mistakes help 
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I wouldn't be here if you've 
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That sums up life pretty well. 
This idea that things have to be

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conditionally perfect before you
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Well, nobody who has attained 
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have done that without making 
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So if I could give you one piece
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with Uranus and Gemini, it's 
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curiosity. 
Be willing to fail. 

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Be willing to fail. 
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knowledge and turn it into 
something because sometimes the 

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mistakes end up giving you the 
best ideas, the best pass the 

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way forward. 
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So we'll be talking about that. 
And then I've got a boatload of 

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questions from patrons at the 
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I'll be addressing some of those
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And then Part 2 for a patron 
exclusive for our community in 

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their exclusive podcast because 
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So I'll do a Part 1 and a Part 
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Part 1 will be here. 
Part 2 will be in the Awake 

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Space community. 
Speaking of, you guys are 

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amazing. 
Thank you for all the Mother's 

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Day wishes and also for the best
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There was an autocorrect mishap 
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All right, on one of my quips, I
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photo. 
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about things like Mother's Day, 
Father's Day, all the holidays, 

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because I left the United States
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And I came of age, I became an 
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holidays were practiced very 
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You know, I lived in 23 
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was 25 years old. 
Between 18 and 25, man, I lived 

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out of my suitcase. 
Can she pack? 

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Yes, she can. 
I also learned what I need, what

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I don't need. 
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learner. 
But anyway, you change when you 

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travel now. 
That's why the 9th Palace is 

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about expansion. 
It is higher education, 

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philosophy, law, anything you 
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that expand the mind. 
Debate should expand the mind. 

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It isn't just a fight where one 
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It should be to expand 
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We we've lost the definitions 
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misuse words all the time, knock
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But anyway, so I see the world 
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So but it's always nice to be 
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You know, if it if it's 
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And being a mother is meaningful
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It always has been. 
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I never wanted to be married. 
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old because I told my mom I 
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husband and she thought what on 
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And I have to say 6 year old me 
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But anywho, my kids are are my 
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with one got a beautiful message
from the other and that's that's

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the most meaningful thing for 
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So but the mistake their 
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Mothership Day. 
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hard day for you, if it's 
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or you don't want to be or you 
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Mothership Day to you, I think 
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So why don't you get your tea, 
get your coffee, get your 

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matcha, get your H2O And we're 
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location matters in astrology 
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Astro cartography is not 
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Astro cartography is locational 
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It's put on a map. 
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make it a separate modality. 
It's not deeper than regular 

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astrology. 
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that's what it does. 
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little more depth and then we'll
give some community news and 

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updates. 
Again, I want to remind you, you

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can sign up for charts and 
channeling with Matilda and I 

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on. 
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Matilda is, she's a crazy 
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Professional medium has been for
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I've been a professional 
practicing astrologer for almost

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30 years now. 
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years. 
Isn't that crazy to be so old as

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I walk around London going? 
It was easier to do this a long 

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time ago when I was a student. 
But anyway, you could sign up 

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for our event link in the show 
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It's 50 bucks, guys. 
It's 50 bucks and it's over 2 

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hours long. 
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don't want to go much past three
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stuff to do. 
Matilda's off on her own 

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adventures after the event, so 
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those. 
She's got cool stuff coming up 

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as well. 
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two of us in action, you want to
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We are sassy when we are 
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because it'll be like one in the
morning here in London while I'm

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doing it. 
So I'll be a little punch drunk.

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But we'll have our favorite 
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We will. 
And Speaking of snacks, we got a

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new moon and Taurus coming up 
and we'll wind up the podcast 

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talking about what I think. 
We'll see that. 

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If you're looking for my 
predictions, those are always 

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put out to my Awake Space 
community members. 

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I don't put those out in public 
anymore. 

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I know that's why a lot of 
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but that's not the bulk of my 
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Those are like my parlour tricks
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Like yes, I'm really accurate. 
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how accurate I am, check the 
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I've got a link to free PDF that
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year. 
It's all based off my 2026 Year 

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Ahead slides that I wrote back 
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of 2025. 
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put together a collection to 
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the year, and it'll come out 
every single month in the Awake 

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Space community. 
All right, get your tea, get 

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your coffee, get your matcha, 
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winding up a PhD thesis, going 
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traffic, or getting on a jet 
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together. 
Why yes, I am well rested. 

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The minute my butt hit the seat 
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London, my eyes closed. 
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had to help me get my seat belt 
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was out. 
I was crashed, so exhausted 

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because I just man, between the 
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moving into Gemini and then the 
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Like my nervous system was just 
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socket. 
And so I did not get enough 

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rest. 
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plane, I was like, there's no 
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flight. 
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I slept and I've, I've managed 
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since. 
So if I look more arrested, it's

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because I am. 
And I'm going to be getting my 

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well earned massaged on Monday 
as you're listening to this, I'm

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going to be on a massage table 
because I used to, and this is 

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true folks, because I do a lot 
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computer. 
I used to have a weekly massage 

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just to get the lymphatic 
drainage going, just to work out

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the kinks, avoid the the tech 
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And then when I moved to 
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therapist within 50 miles of me 
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So I wasn't able to get a 
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So that's one of the first 
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massage that that happens 
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That's what I'm working towards.
I did have my tea on my Venus 

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return of May 7th and it was 
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Especially the tea, the actual 
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sandwiches and the the tea 
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It was the tea man. 
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English tea is until you have it
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Oh yeah, this is what tea is 
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Tasty. 
But anywho, let's talk about why

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location matters. 
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Now this could also go for Coke 
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That's Koch Coke house system or
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very, you know, like southern 
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that kind of thing. 
We can use porphyry for that if 

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if it's a extreme latitudes 
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quite work out math wise. 
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on saying don't use it. 
The ancients didn't use it. 

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they didn't have the math, but 
they certainly did theorize it. 

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So told me theorized Placidus 
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Europe, really took those Greek 
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forward. 
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Islamophobia in the astrological
world when they'd be like the 

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Arabs took the Greeks work, they
stole it. 

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No, no, they honored it and 
expanded on it. 

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The lack of critical thinking 
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passes for so-called academia. 
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it. 
They didn't have the math. 

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They didn't use 0 yet. 0 didn't 
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century common era. 
It's hard. 

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It's hard to figure out. 
OK, we just have to ask some 

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questions. 
There we go. 

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So it had to do with the math, 
in fact. 

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And I wrote an article about 
this in the Awake space. 

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I wrote it tired so it could be 
like 3 different articles. 

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I reread it earlier today and I 
was like, wow, there's a lot 

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there, there. 
There's a lot there. 

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You wrote tired, didn't you? 
But it's, it's a lot of 

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information, so read through it.
And if you go, wow, that could 

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be 3 different articles. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, it could be. 
I'll accept your judgment. 

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I wrote it fast and furious. 
Well, I was like, I need to get 

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out an article. 
It's probably like sleep typing 

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or something. 
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tropical astrology, when you 
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center bit is Earth. 
OK, So if you're standing in the

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center of the wheel, that bold 
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and at one end is the ascendant,
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descendant. 
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You're standing in a parking 
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is above that line. 
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feet, below the horizon. 
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that rises above the horizon. 
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OK, So if you're standing and 
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say you're in Kansas, OK, And 
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miles and miles and miles, 
there's nothing impeding your 

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view. 
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the the sun rises in the east. 
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It's a flipped map. 
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descendant is West, so 
everything rises and sets east 

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to West. 
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chart, we need not just the date
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and the place of birth, because 
depending on where you live, the

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sun rises and sets differently. 
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That's why Alaska is known as 
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because in the summertime they 
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which is why we will use 
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they're born like super north in
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Do you know? 
Not so much. 

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Do you know we just use 
Placidus. 

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There are lots of classes out 
there on how to hand do a chart 

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with the math Now, American 
Federation of Astrologers. 

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I recommend Alan Oaken's 
Complete Astrology if you really

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want that foundation there. 
There used to be these arguments

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on whether you could even be a 
good astrologer if you couldn't 

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do the math part all the way on 
your own or if you just did a 

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chart on a computer. 
And I I don't think it's an 

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either or. 
I think it's an and both. 

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I think understanding how a 
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being a good astrologer. 
I don't think you have to hand 

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draw every chart to be a good 
astrologer. 

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That's the part people were 
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day because it could take, you 
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math to draw a chart. 
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of lacked. 
It was very deterministic 

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because, you know, think about 
it, the type of brain it takes 

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to do all that math isn't always
very good at communicating 

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through language skills. 
That's just sometimes it is. 

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Some people have the ability to 
do both. 

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Not everybody does. 
And cultures were also very 

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deterministic at the time as 
well. 

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So for me as a progressive 
evolutionary astrologer, and 

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because my teachers emphasized 
this about me, they were like, 

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hey, you need to specialize in 
interpretation because we need 

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more people moving 
interpretation forward, giving 

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it more depth, more breadth, 
because otherwise you just do a 

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computer print out, you get a 
general idea. 

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It's not, it's not nuanced, it's
not individualized. 

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And it was revolutionary in the 
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couldn't do that before it 
granted more access. 

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Sometimes you lose quality 
because everybody can do it and 

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we lose. 
You lose focus on making it all 

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really good. 
We lose skills, and I don't 

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think it has to be that way, but
that's how it has been done. 

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So I emphasize the spectrum of 
expression that the planets 

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make, the science make, how the 
placements are in the houses and

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in the interrelationship of of 
those things together. 

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That's why we've been doing 
aspects in the Natal chart in 

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the astrology crew. 
Make sure you check the 

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collection in the astrology 
class library, in the Natal 

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aspects library. 
Go through all those classes. 

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If you're brand new and you just
join the astrology crew, get 

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caught up. 
Get caught up because when you 

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go to ask me questions, a lot of
times I'm going to refer you 

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back to the material there. 
There's like almost 50 hours 

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worth of recorded classes that 
are in depth and and there's 

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layers to the information in 
there. 

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So I highly suggest you go check
those out. 

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So location, location, location 
is everything. 

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Locational astrology is one of 
the oldest forms of astrology. 

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The three Magi, the three wise 
men used it. 

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Looking for that star, because 
location is always part of 

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astrology. 
We're making sense of events. 

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Your birth is an event. 
It forms a whole energy system. 

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Your birth chart is your 
personal schematic. 

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Like, think about it like you're
an engineer in Star Trek. 

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Maybe you're the engineer of the
USS Enterprise and it has these 

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blueprints, these schematics 
that's your birth chart. 

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Your birth chart is the 
schematics for you and just like

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you have power cubes or or 
crystals that are used to fuel 

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the USS Enterprise. 
So to your son will have 

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different qualities right. 
Not every Aries son is impulsive

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in the same way. 
Some may be more of a napper, 

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others don't nap at all. 
Some Aries sons love to run and 

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be active, and others are more 
academic. 

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You can't paint it with a wide 
brush. 

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We can't explain why those 
differences happen. 

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Not today. 
That's more of an astrology 

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class. 
But we know there's a spectrum 

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of expression, and that's what I
focus on. 

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Location, location, location 
helps us know how that can 

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express. 
So like an Aries born in Lapland

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is not going to be the same as 
an Aries born in the Amazon 

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forest. 
They may have shared qualities, 

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though there may be enough in 
common. 

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They can go, hey, you and me, 
we're all like each other. 

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Location, location, location. 
It gives us the ascendant, it 

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gives us the IC, the descendant 
and the Midheaven. 

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The IC is the immune and Kohli, 
it's the bottom of the chart. 

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OK, It's it's our home base. 
It's our interior life versus 

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our exterior life, which is the 
top of the chart. 

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And the 7th house, the 
descendant, how we share our 

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energy with other people who are
close to us, people we are in 

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commitment to. 
I saw a great example of that in

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Hyde Park. 
My daughter and I walk in Hyde 

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Park pretty much every morning 
and there are Swans there and 

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Swans meet for life, Swans 
commit for life. 

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It's very sad when a swan's mate
dies. 

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OK, very sad. 
But there is a couple of Swans, 

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there's there's a pair and they 
are nesting right now and they 

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have this area cordoned off as 
as they sit on the eggs and one 

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of them was sitting on the nest 
and the other was laying outside

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the cordoned area near their 
partner. 

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So kind of keeping watch. 
And that's commitment. 

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There's a contract there. 
We're going to meet for life. 

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We're going to reproduce our 
goslings together. 

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And I've got your back while 
you're vulnerable on this nest. 

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And that's, that's 7th house 
right there. 

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That's not 5th house romance, 
that's 7th house commitment. 

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That's the contract that's 
there. 

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And it's it's a beautiful 1. 
So a lot of times when we're 

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talking locational astrology, 
most people think they have to 

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do Astro cartography to see if a
location is good. 

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And I'm going to say Astro 
cartography, which is cool. 

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OK, it's modern. 
Modern doesn't mean bad. 

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In fact, I think Astro 
cartography advanced our 

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understanding of locational 
astrology. 

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It was created by Jim Lewis, who
was an amazing mathematician and

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cartographer. 
He understood modern cartography

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methods and he what he did is he
superimposed the placements of a

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chart onto a physical map, 
understanding that an astrology 

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chart is a friggin map. 
OK, you can navigate with that 

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thing depending on what your 
points of reference are going to

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be. 
Unfortunately, Jim Lewis passed 

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away in 1995, which is the year 
astrology came hurtling at me. 

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And remember I was going to 
prove it wrong. 

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Whoops, joke was on me. 
Anyway, his friends so believed 

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in his work that they made sure 
it got published OK, but that 

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was a few years later. 
I think it got published in like

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99 or something like that. 
You can look it up, it's a 

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simple Google search and you can
find his book out there as well.

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Astro cartography is not a 
separate subject from astrology,

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it's an extension of it. 
It's not even really a sub 

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branch, it's an extension and a 
visual representation of 

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something we've done for 
millennia, even before Placidus 

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existed. 
OK, location mattered. 

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Why would you need location? 
Well, human beings have always 

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moved around and you would have 
things like armies going into 

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battle, you'd be looking at 
weather patterns for harvests, 

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etcetera, and merchants 
traveled. 

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Funny enough, archaeology keeps 
finding out that people were 

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doing trade long before our 19th
century. 

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Archaeologists and 
anthropologists with their 

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biases said they were. 
So it's not like the ancients 

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weren't as smart as us. 
I don't think intelligence has 

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changed all that much. 
We often limit through that. 

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But there were less people on 
the planet and less science to 

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make sense of the world, which 
is where superstition and 

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magical thinking come from, 
right, Is when we're trying to 

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make sense of things that don't 
make sense, we're going to 

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assign meaning in some kind of 
way. 

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There's nothing more human than 
to make a story of something. 

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So Astro cartography is not the 
only way or the only kind of 

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way. 
We're going to see where 

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somewhere can be a good place to
live. 

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I think it's a very reductionist
and I've seen some really big 

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mistakes made. 
I've had to help people move off

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lines. 
They thought they were gay. 

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But it's my Jupiter lane. 
I thought I'd be good. 

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And I'm like, oh, it could be a 
lot and it can be growth and 

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growing is cool, but growing is 
often uncomfortable. 

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Just like Pluto can be a 
difficult line to be on. 

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It can be maybe transforming 
more than you want to, but for 

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other people, that's exactly 
where they need to be want to 

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be. 
You know, I'm and, and I have 

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moved people off of Pluto line. 
Let me tell you, it took a 

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minute because Pluto could be 
like obsessive, so it can stick 

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to you like glue. 
It can be something else. 

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When we're looking for good 
places to live, you have to get 

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past good and bad because guess 
what? 

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There will always be life 
circumstances. 

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But there are, depending on the 
goal of what you want to 

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achieve. 
What do you want your quality of

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life to be? 
There's going to be places that 

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ameliorate that better than 
others. 

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If you need peace and quiet, 
moving to a city center is 

450
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,560
probably not going to be the 
best route for you. 

451
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,160
Maybe a Mars line isn't where 
you want to be. 

452
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,640
Where life is going to be very 
very active and Astro 

453
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,440
cartography should never cost 
you an arm and a leg. 2. 

454
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,040
If you're getting a reading that
involves Astro cartography, you 

455
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,960
need to have some locational 
astrology thrown in as well. 

456
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Because when you relocate, your 
houses change. 

457
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,800
OK the ascendant all the way 
through the rest of the chart 

458
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,720
depending how far you move. 
If you move half an hour away, 

459
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,880
there's a minimal change. 
Guess what? 

460
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,640
If you're moving half an hour 
away, your environment's 

461
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,280
changing minimally in general, 
OK? 

462
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,040
And so that minimal change of 
environment will be reflected in

463
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,040
the chart. 
Likewise, if you're moving 

464
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,360
halfway around the world, you're
going to see a more significant 

465
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,400
change because your environment 
is changing more significantly. 

466
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,120
And that's reflected in the 
chart, especially through the 

467
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,640
houses, whether you have 
placements in those houses or 

468
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,000
not. 
Now, I became really fascinated 

469
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,280
by locational astrology as a 
young person right away because 

470
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,960
it was something I had noticed 
because I had travelled young. 

471
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,520
In 1985, I was an exchange 
student to Belgium and I noticed

472
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,760
I was really different when I 
was in Belgium and it was 

473
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,480
interesting to me. 
Of course it was a big growth 

474
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:44,560
time, but going through Belgium 
and France and parts of Spain up

475
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,120
into Scandinavia is, is a 
Jupiter crossing line and a 

476
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720
Uranus crossing line because I 
have the Jupiter Uranus 

477
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,520
conjunction at 0° Libra that 
everyone my age in a couple of 

478
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,040
weeks time has, OK, like it's a 
two week period of time that 

479
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,680
they have that conjunction and, 
and so those lines go through 

480
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,360
there. 
So it's a very, it's a place I 

481
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,040
always have big awarenesses. 
A lot of growth for me. 

482
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,200
It was really positive at the 
time, but I was also a little 

483
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,760
more gregarious. 
I was a little more willing to 

484
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,360
try things. 
I was a little more curious at 

485
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
home. 
I was curious, but more in a 

486
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,240
sense to get to the root of 
things, to create new systems 

487
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,840
because life was a little more 
stagnant where I lived. 

488
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,560
It was a little harder to get 
out of there, and it wasn't 

489
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440
necessarily an environment that 
helped me thrive. 

490
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,840
So I was always deep diving, 
trying to transform Scorpio 

491
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,880
rising and change. 
I'm in Aries rising when I'm in 

492
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,160
a continental Europe at the very
early degree. 

493
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,680
So when I get into Wolong, 
Brussels, Brussels, I think 

494
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Americans say Rowan, France, 
When I'm in that area, I have 

495
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Aries rising. 
It's very fascinating. 

496
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:08,120
So I'm a little more outgoing 
than being a Scorpio rising. 

497
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,200
Both Mars ruled though. 
Both Mars ruled if we use 

498
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,960
classical rulerships. 
So very, very fascinating. 

499
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,560
When I went to university in 
England, it was a little 

500
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,120
different. 
I'm a little more outgoing, I'm 

501
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,200
a little more open to meeting 
people. 

502
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080
I'm a little less hermitish, but
I'm a lot more. 

503
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:36,040
My poetic side comes out more 
winsome, more outwardly 

504
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,120
imaginative, less insular. 
Not manic Pixie dream girl by 

505
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,160
any means, but I have a lot more
overt metaphysical things 

506
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,760
happening. 
Like, like it was interior in 

507
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,520
the States. 
Here it's more exterior. 

508
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,000
People just walk up to me. 
Interesting happenings and 

509
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,520
phenomena happen around me. 
You know, when I'm here. 

510
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,440
I was introduced to metaphysics 
in a very serious way at the age

511
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360
of 18 when I came here as a 
university student. 

512
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,600
It's funny, I was always trying 
to bat it away. 

513
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160
I'm like, no, I'm a logical, 
rational academic. 

514
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,760
Don't throw this poppycock my 
direction. 

515
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,120
And there was really no escaping
it, nor was there escaping my 

516
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,440
purpose and understanding of 
self because I have a Pisces N 

517
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,880
node. 
So becoming myself and embracing

518
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,800
that side of me was part of my 
journey when I'm in the UK. 

519
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,440
So it's always a special moment.
In the last week, I've been 

520
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,880
observing how it's almost 
automatic when I'm here that I'm

521
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,720
in the noticing. 
I'm always noticing the little 

522
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,960
ripples and dimples in a pond, 
the fluttering of the petals in 

523
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,200
the breeze of these beautiful 
flowers, and the wisteria is 

524
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,320
still blooming and moving in the
breeze or the wind and the 

525
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,880
rustling of the leaves in the 
trees. 

526
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,800
And I have a notebook on me. 
My writer's self is satiated by 

527
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,280
the sensory input I get here. 
I could just sit in Hyde Park 

528
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,040
and write for hours. 
Just all the words and feelings 

529
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,840
and sensations that come in. 
And so I noticed these things. 

530
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,200
And then when I moved to Bahrain
in 1991 when I married my my 

531
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,840
kids dad, AI was really social 
and people look to me to be 

532
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,800
social, which was really weird 
to me because I was always the 

533
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,680
nerdy academian that was a goody
2 shoes and there I was in 

534
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,920
demand and I was more willing to
be social and my hair even 

535
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,080
lightened. 
I used to have to go to the 

536
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,000
salon to get it back to the 
natural color because just in 

537
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,760
the sunlight, my hair, the 
blonde came out. 

538
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040
And normally it's the red 
highlights or low lights that I 

539
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,840
have naturally that show up. 
So I wondered why I was 

540
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,560
different in all the different 
places that I lived. 

541
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,880
And when astrology came my way 
and I began to understand how 

542
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,960
location based it is, I was 
like, well, can I look at 

543
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,080
relocation? 
And of course you can't. 

544
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,960
And I saw, you know, from a 
Scorpio raising to a Pisces 

545
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320
raising to an Aries raising to a
Gemini raising. 

546
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,600
And, and I'm like, well, that 
would explain How I Met the 

547
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,840
world. 
Because the 1st house shows how 

548
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
you assert yourself. 
It shows how you put yourself 

549
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,640
out in the world. 
It shows kind of how you step 

550
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,120
into a room. 
So as a Scorpio rising, I walk 

551
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,360
into a room and I literally walk
through the door, step to the 

552
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,000
side or sit back against the 
wall, take a look of my 

553
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,400
surroundings, know my exits, see
if I want to be there at all. 

554
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400
And then I walk in the room. 
You know, I'll look for like who

555
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,320
looks nice, like I want to hang 
out with them. 

556
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
My moon kicks in in the 11th 
house. 

557
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,600
Who do I want to make friends 
with here in the UK? 

558
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,560
I'll walk in and I just kind of 
case the joint and it's like my 

559
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,080
little feelers are out. 
I walk around, I kind of mingle.

560
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680
I bump into a few people because
you know, there's no boundaries,

561
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,640
right? 
Well, my balance can be off 

562
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,280
here. 
I don't fall, but my balance is 

563
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,400
a little off and, and it always 
has been. 

564
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,639
People used to think I was on 
something because it's, it's 

565
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,400
like I have sea legs, you know, 
on Pisces rising. 

566
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,120
I'm still Scorpio raising. 
It hasn't changed my interior 

567
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,520
self. 
It's how I operate in the 

568
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,400
environment. 
And I think that's an important 

569
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,520
thing to remember. 
You do not change in the 

570
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,600
interior necessarily. 
It's how you're moving through 

571
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,199
the exterior world and that 
helps change the interior. 

572
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,040
But you don't lose like 
chocolate is always chocolate. 

573
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,760
You can put amaretto in it, you 
can put mint in it, you can put 

574
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440
gold in it. 
It's still chocolate, right? 

575
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,360
So you will always be you. 
And then there can be additions 

576
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,440
made that change the flavor of 
you, but you will always, at 

577
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,880
your root be you. 
That's your Natal chart. 

578
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,320
As as you move and grow, you 
transform that. 

579
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,760
You transform who you are. 
Hopefully you mature at the same

580
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640
time in your Nexus, in the heart
of who you are. 

581
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,880
That kernel of self remains. 
We have obscured memory of who 

582
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,880
we are. 
We often use the input that 

583
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,360
we've gotten over a lifetime to 
help self describe ourselves. 

584
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,760
And when you have those first 
house transits, that's when you 

585
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,920
are able to shake up what has 
been imposed upon you and and 

586
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,800
get down to the root of who you 
are, who you were connected with

587
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,920
as a child. 
Because your identity is there 

588
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,880
from day one and it shifts and 
changed based on outside input 

589
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,080
because you have nothing else to
work with. 

590
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680
When you're an infant, you don't
have agency. 

591
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,360
You are reliant on the people in
the environment around you and 

592
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,640
that helps shape your 
understanding of self. 

593
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,640
And then you hit crisis points 
that help breakthrough that. 

594
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,320
That's part of being human. 
But that Natal chart that that 

595
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,600
essence of self always remains. 
How you understand that as you 

596
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,560
grow and evolve and change, 
well, that too grows and evolves

597
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,920
and change. 
That's the emphasis of 

598
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,440
progressive evolutionary 
astrology that I like to bring 

599
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,560
through interpretation is that 
that expansion of awareness, 

600
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,000
that understanding of self in a 
different way. 

601
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,040
So your Natal chart is always 
there, and yet if you relocate, 

602
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,920
you change your environment. 
You get to explore yourself in a

603
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:48,280
different way and know yourself 
from different angles so you can

604
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,920
relocate. 
You know where you live may not 

605
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,720
be the best place to thrive for 
you other people, that's the 

606
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:00,320
best it's ever going to be. 
There's nothing wrong with 

607
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,960
either direction. 
But I can tell you, if you 

608
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,320
decide to relocate because you 
hate the place, because it's 

609
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,160
boring and you know everybody 
does the same thing every day, 

610
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,440
and you're going to bring those 
same attitudes with you. 

611
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,520
If you haven't deconstructed or 
aren't in the process of 

612
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,800
deconstructing, you can always 
move away. 

613
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,440
But the issues, well, they come 
in the bags with you until you 

614
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,600
deal with it. 
So relocating isn't always the 

615
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,760
answer. 
And yet for some people, it's 

616
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,960
the catalyst of deconstruction. 
It's the catalyst for renovation

617
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,680
of self. 
It is a very individual process.

618
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,160
There is no one-size-fits-all in
life. 

619
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040
I know we like things in neat 
and tidy boxes. 

620
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Human beings love that. 
We love typology. 

621
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,680
We love to be told what class we
are, what category we are, 

622
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,760
because then we don't have to 
think about it too much, right? 

623
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,720
Thinking about it makes our 
brains hurt. 

624
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,960
I like that hearty sensation in 
the brain. 

625
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,400
But not everybody does. 
Remember, typology is a place to

626
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160
start. 
It is never the end. 

627
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,720
So just being knowing your sun 
sign or knowing your rising sign

628
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,400
or your moon sign, that's a 
place to start. 

629
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,920
It's not the end of the journey.
So same with relocation. 

630
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,920
You can relocate and see is it 
better for your career goals, 

631
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,920
your family goals? 
Is it better overall? 

632
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Is it a place where you can grow
and meet your ambitions? 

633
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,280
Is it a place you can find a 
cozy sense of home? 

634
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,440
It depends on each and every 
single person's perceptions, 

635
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,960
your background, that all has to
be factored in. 

636
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,720
And for some people it's 
absolutely world changing in a 

637
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,200
good way. 
And other people, depending on 

638
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,640
their mindset, it may not be the
best thing for them. 

639
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Mindset is everything you know. 
You can't change your life on 

640
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,960
mindset alone, but your mindset 
definitely is what colors your 

641
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880
experience regardless of 
circumstances. 

642
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Whether it's good, bad, in the 
middle, up and down, sideways, 

643
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,080
inside out, it doesn't matter. 
Mindset is is how you're going 

644
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,360
to perceive things. 
So if you want to use your free 

645
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,240
will, if you want to use your 
agency as an adult with car keys

646
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,120
and a job or the potential to 
have those things, then you 

647
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,200
know, then it's going to take a 
little bit of work. 

648
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,560
There's no magic wand, not even 
a relocation. 

649
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:37,120
But if if you're lucky and 
relocation works well for you, 

650
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,040
it can open your vistas. 
And so that's something I work 

651
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,280
with my clients on a lot. 
I help a lot of people move or 

652
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,000
find better ways to use the 
energy right where they're at 

653
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,480
because honestly, if you're not 
addressing things right where 

654
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,840
you're at, you're going to be 
addressing them from different 

655
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,720
angles no matter what line 
you're on with the Astro 

656
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,400
cartography laid out. 
So to bring it back full circle,

657
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,440
Astro cartography is not 
separate from astrology. 

658
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,280
It is a form of locational 
astrology, which has always been

659
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000
done. 
Location is always a factor. 

660
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,400
In astrology, in how we make up 
charts because especially in 

661
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,400
western tropical astrology, we 
use a geocentric point of view 

662
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,960
and Earth centered point of view
because we live on Earth. 

663
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,680
No, we know the Earth is not the
center of our Galaxy, our solar 

664
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,240
system. 
We know that, but it actually is

665
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,440
to our human understanding the 
Earth is the center of our 

666
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,920
personal universe because this 
is where we walk, move and 

667
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,840
breathe. 
We can intellectually know we 

668
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,960
are not the center of 
everything, but to our physical 

669
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,720
experience, to the illusion of 
being physical on this planet at

670
00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:00,600
this time in this body, it is, 
it is this is this is how we 

671
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,120
experience. 
You can have a a world changing 

672
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,480
event. 
Maybe it's a storm or political 

673
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,760
activity or an economic 
situation. 

674
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:16,760
And even if it barely touches 
you, maybe you know someone who 

675
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
knows someone it impacts. 
You're going to try to 

676
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,560
personalize it to you. 
I see it every single day in my 

677
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,240
comments, every single day where
people are impacted in some way 

678
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:33,160
or attach impact to themselves 
through a world event because 

679
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,000
that is our understanding of how
to go through life. 

680
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,920
And unless you are a 
philosopher, a dreamer, a 

681
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,040
creative thinker, 9 times out of
10 you're going to make these 

682
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,320
events personal. 
And that's why we use the 

683
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,200
geocentric point of view. 
And there's nothing wrong with 

684
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,800
being centric to the situation 
unless it's a damaging your 

685
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,080
experience in life. 
Which is why I warned you about 

686
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,080
falling prey to the propaganda 
and the disruption and the panic

687
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,920
because it's not giving you a 
quality of life. 

688
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,280
It doesn't mean it doesn't 
impact you either directly or 

689
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,080
indirectly. 
It's how you process that 

690
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,120
information that makes all the 
difference. 

691
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,280
OK, so I think it's time for 
some community news and welcome 

692
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,360
to our newest members to the 
Awake Space community. 

693
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,440
And I just want to remind you, 
as a new member, you have 

694
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,840
special savings. 
And that means if you've not 

695
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,520
been a member of the Awake Space
community in the Patreon in the 

696
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:42,600
past, if you sign up in the next
month, you save, I believe, 25% 

697
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,520
on annual subscriptions. 
So you'll see that publicly 

698
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,120
listed at the top in a banner. 
Make sure you check that out. 

699
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,280
I can't offer it to existing 
members. 

700
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,200
I wish I could. 
That's not my call. 

701
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,840
That is the platform's decision.
I would love to give everybody 

702
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,640
little Gifties, but there's a 
lot of great information whether

703
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,840
you're looking to learn more 
about astrology or how to dive 

704
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,200
in and use your own agency. 
I try to mix up the language so 

705
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,080
it's not all astrological ease 
because you know things aren't 

706
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,480
going to get less disruptive as 
we go through the next couple of

707
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,560
years and even decades. 
We're in massive systemic change

708
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,440
and we get to be part of that 
change. 

709
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,000
That's a privilege. 
It is a privilege to be alive at

710
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,880
this time, at this place, in 
this body. 

711
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,760
And it doesn't always feel like 
a privilege. 

712
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,600
I know that I know, I know from 
first hand experience. 

713
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,800
But I also know a few tips and 
tricks, skills and frameworks 

714
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:50,960
that can help it be much more 
rewarding to be in a physical 

715
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,280
body at this time on this 
planet, moving through these 

716
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,280
changes and building the 
substructures necessary to make 

717
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,640
the future a lot more fun to be 
in. 

718
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
All right, let's get going with 
the community news. 

719
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,480
Well, without our community at 
the Awake Space, we wouldn't 

720
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,280
have a podcast. 
Thanks to our community, they 

721
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,480
sponsor this and I don't have to
work with corporate sponsors or 

722
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,320
deal with ads. 
Maybe one day I'll get that 

723
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,920
YouTube monetized. 
I haven't yet. 

724
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Money is not my motivator. 
It's not. 

725
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,520
I learned how to use it and work
with it. 

726
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,880
But my motivator is always 
gaining experience, sharing 

727
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,600
experience and building 
community. 

728
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,560
And that's something we've got 
to the NTH degree in the awake 

729
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,560
space. 
Just a wonderful group of people

730
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
supporting members. 
That is the paying members at 

731
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,120
the $5 level and up get access 
to our community chats. 

732
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,480
And some of those are tier 
dependent. 

733
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,120
But let me tell you, the lounge,
the predictions thread, the 

734
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,280
creativity thread, these are all
things everybody is welcome to. 

735
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,280
That's where my lives go 
through. 

736
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,240
If we're members. 
It's amazing the amount of 

737
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:21,720
messages I've gotten in the last
six weeks about how this 

738
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:25,040
community has been a lifeline 
for people as we go through 

739
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,640
these very strange, disruptive 
times as massive systemic change

740
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,040
really kicks into gear. 
Nothing will ever be the same as

741
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,840
it was. 
The big detonation happened in 

742
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,440
2020, and in 2025 the Jenga 
tower fell. 

743
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,440
That was something I talked 
about for quite some time. 

744
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,120
And now the board is getting 
swept and we have to look at 

745
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,880
building from bits of the 
foundation that still have 

746
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,920
integrity. 
And if you look at all the 

747
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,000
archaeology that's being done 
right now where like even in 

748
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,240
Turkey, they've rebuilt this 
Greek Amphitheatre based off of 

749
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:10,280
the ruins they could find. 
And there were enough pieces 

750
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,640
with integrity that they could 
build this arena up as it had 

751
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,000
once been like 2500, three, 3500
years ago. 

752
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,960
I don't remember. 
So when where they found the 

753
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,960
statue of Athena? 
Athena. 

754
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,800
And if you ever played Age of 
Empires, I think it was a, it 

755
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,720
might have been Zeus. 
I think it was Zeus, something 

756
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:34,960
like that. 
It's one of those old 

757
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Civilization games. 
I am Athena. 

758
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,760
That came into my head as soon 
as I saw the statue, which is 

759
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,000
pretty cool. 
And Artemis 2 going to the moon.

760
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,760
Artemis, a moon goddess. 
Women are showing up in all 

761
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,240
kinds of different ways and I 
wouldn't say that's the divine 

762
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:55,120
feminine. 
I would say that is femininity. 

763
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,240
You know this idea that we're 
soft and obedient and compliant 

764
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:02,400
submissive boy, isn't that a 
male centric point of view 

765
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,080
patriarchy and the women who 
support it but I digress. 

766
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Anyway, community news again, my
thanks to our community. 

767
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,400
There are so many people who 
show up every single day to be a

768
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,760
support, to check out the 
vetting chamber, see who needs 

769
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:24,240
an extra bit of virtual hugs or 
just witnessing as they go 

770
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,000
through life. 
It's great place to scream into 

771
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,760
the void to the people who show 
up with their creativity and 

772
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,040
their tips and hints on on 
gardening and food preparation 

773
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,600
and all those fun things. 
Not in a crazy prepper way, but 

774
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,920
in a realistic way. 
Who's been telling you for the 

775
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,720
last six years, grow something, 
anything. 

776
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:51,840
Even if you can only grow micro 
greens or leafy greens, well, 

777
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,640
look at where iceberg lettuce is
now on those shelves. 

778
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,240
In some places it's three, 
almost $5 a head. 

779
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,440
So if you can do it, we've got 
people who are experienced, 

780
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560
willing to give you the 
information, give you 

781
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,080
references, you know, get you 
out there finding the 

782
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,640
information you need to get 
started. 

783
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,360
What does that have to do with 
astrology? 

784
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,280
Everything. 
And if you are at the magazine 

785
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,080
level and up, remember you get 
the gardening seminar and the 

786
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,000
little Zine that I made for the 
Astrology of Gardening. 

787
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,040
It's a fun one hour lecture with
an ebook that gives you some 

788
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,160
beginning tips and hints and 
vegetables that are pretty easy 

789
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,880
to grow, as well as my fairy 
salad recipe. 

790
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,760
That's right, edible flowers. 
It's pretty, it's fun, and my 

791
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,160
kids used to love that when they
were little. 

792
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,400
What else is coming up? 
We're still going to be going 

793
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,480
live in both the awake space and
in Laurie's lab. 

794
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,880
Hold on on Laurie's lab. 
My daughter and I are just now 

795
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,800
sitting down to do schedules, so
that'll come out this week. 

796
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:06,880
We also have Matilda and I have 
our event charts and channeling 

797
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,720
the 18th in the United States, 
5:00 PM Pacific, 8:00 PM 

798
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:15,400
Eastern, and 1:00 AM in the UK 
on the 17th. 

799
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,880
And if you're in Australia or in
those time zones and then it's 

800
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,120
at 10:00 AM Eastern Australian 
Standard Time. 

801
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,640
There, I said it. 
So without you, there is no me. 

802
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,800
I love to welcome our newest 
members and I'll do that right 

803
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,240
now. 
Let's take a look. 

804
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:45,360
So many good people to thank and
I think I can't thank everybody.

805
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,000
There's over 2000 supporting 
members. 

806
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,400
That means paying members. 
We have over 5000 free members. 

807
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,640
How cool is that? 
So we go live at least once a 

808
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,400
month for everybody, free and 
paid. 

809
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,280
And that's where we get deeper 
connections, you know, a little 

810
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,320
more of Lori lore, and we have 
fun. 

811
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:10,920
They're usually not safe for 
work. 

812
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640
We're a little boisterous in 
there. 

813
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,360
And then, you know, when there's
world events, things like that, 

814
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,320
I'll hop on. 
But yeah, so you can join it for

815
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,040
free. 
I've got some free articles. 

816
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,000
I've definitely got free 
resources. 

817
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Check out the pinned post OK for
beginning astrology resources 

818
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,800
and for deeper dives. 
It's it's written by tier and 

819
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,320
access level. 
But if you want a one stop for 

820
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,160
where everything is, that pinned
post is gold, my friends. 

821
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:41,800
All right, let's get to it and 
think. 

822
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,480
I don't know how to pronounce 
this, and I'm going to do my 

823
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,280
best. 
So please, if I butcher your 

824
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,040
name, let me know the proper 
pronunciation. 

825
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,200
We've got Katarzina. 
Katarzina or Zenya. 

826
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,240
Vonda. 
May Cara or Cara Demi. 

827
00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,400
Still me. 
Harmony, Jasmine. 

828
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Unbothered hand. 
Joey, Leslie, Shira, Amelia, 

829
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:14,800
Deborah, Jen, Sarah Rose, Katie 
Beautiful Scars We Lydia Jen 

830
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:22,440
Hippie Mystic, Wendy Susan, 
Amanda, Joanna, Molly, Amethyst,

831
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,200
Gabriella and Claudia. 
Miranda, Jen, Catherine, Marie, 

832
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:36,760
Daniela, Tara, Alyssa, Alexia, 
Barbara, Karen, Amanda, Joyce, 

833
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,680
Sue, Meredith, Lilith, Jackie 
and Anna Carey. 

834
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Welcome, welcome. 
Thank you so much for being a 

835
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,040
part of the Awake Space 
community. 

836
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,360
And make sure you come into the 
chats and say hello. 

837
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,080
There's no clicks. 
We don't do that. 

838
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,960
Everybody's welcome to come in. 
We are not here to be like 

839
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,400
minded. 
We are here to be like hearted. 

840
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,720
So people have their own points 
of view, their own way of 

841
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:08,080
expressing themselves, and as 
long as it's not harming 

842
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,640
everybody, we're OK with that. 
Holding different opinions is 

843
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,480
not is not a problem. 
Being mean is. 

844
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,720
So our main role is don't be a 
Dick. 

845
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,760
OK. 
If you can follow that rule, 

846
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,960
you're all right. 
OK, let's move on to answering 

847
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,520
questions. 
Some of those have to do with 

848
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,200
return charts, but there's a 
whole lot. 

849
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,960
So we're only going to get to 
sun because I need to talk about

850
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,040
that New moon and Taurus coming 
up at the beginning of next 

851
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:47,680
week. 
I've been asking our magazine 

852
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,000
subscribers to toss me questions
to talk about on the on the 

853
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,000
podcast here. 
And man, this week people really

854
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,280
came through. 
You tell Uranus is in Gemini 

855
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,680
now. 
The questions are just popping 

856
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,000
and they're good ones. 
Remember, the quality of the 

857
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,920
answer is wholly dependent on 
the quality of the question. 

858
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,560
It's like if you ask me 
something like thoughts, I'm 

859
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,520
going to give you a sarcastic 
answer. 

860
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,840
Thoughts is not a good question.
So I had a bunch of people on 

861
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,080
TikTok ask me about the 
hantavirus. 

862
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,880
I have personal experience with 
potential exposure to that. 

863
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Not the Andy's version but a 
version common in the Pacific 

864
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,440
Northwest and it is not easy to 
get. 

865
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,720
Although I have known someone 
who did get it and it was very 

866
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,480
life changing. 
You don't want it but my 

867
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,520
children and I had potential 
exposure to it and not going to 

868
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,320
lie that was nerve racking. 
But it's not easy to contract if

869
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,080
it mutated or something, you 
know, but it's not like a 

870
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,920
coronavirus, A coronavirus. 
There's a lot of things that are

871
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:11,240
coronavirus, you know, the flus 
different colds those spread 

872
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:14,840
much easier. 
Follow the immunologist, follow 

873
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,760
the epidemiologists. 
Don't just believe Joe Schmo 

874
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,120
with a lot of opinions, reading 
newspaper articles. 

875
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,600
Those those articles and those 
headlines are designed to panic 

876
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,560
you. 
Please don't let them get to 

877
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,640
you. 
And don't argue with the PhDs. 

878
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,040
You know, just don't. 
Why would you argue with the 

879
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,720
PhDs? 
That's their job to know. 

880
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,000
And if you think, oh, that's 
because the CDC has been 

881
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,760
ransacked, yeah, that's a 
problem. 

882
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,520
It's a big problem. 
But before the coronavirus 

883
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,360
pandemic, most people had no 
idea what the CDC was, let alone

884
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,320
and was in charge of it unless 
they had a vested interest. 

885
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,160
And there's been many a health 
crisis you haven't heard about 

886
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
before and since. 
I'm not, I'm not defending the 

887
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,200
current administration. 
That would be the last thing I'd

888
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,160
ever do. 
But take a breath. 

889
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,480
Listen to the actual experts. 
Stop listening to talking heads 

890
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,480
if they don't, if they don't 
work in that field, if they're 

891
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,280
not a medical professional that 
specializes in that, because 

892
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,120
just because somebody has a 
doctor, it doesn't mean they're 

893
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,240
a medical doctor or an 
immunologist or an 

894
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:29,400
epidemiologist that your 
sources. 

895
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,720
But you know, always approach 
things with caution. 

896
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:35,000
What can you do? 
You wash your hands, wear a 

897
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,480
mask, you do things that 
mitigate exposure, get 

898
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120
vaccinated, depending on what's 
coming up. 

899
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,440
Those are all important things. 
So the questions for this week, 

900
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,840
I'm going to just read you the 
questions and then I'm going to 

901
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,120
tell you the answers and which 
is going to be in the Patron 

902
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Exclusive podcast. 
So let's see, I got a bunch, I 

903
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,320
got a bunch. 
JC says if we're on the 

904
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,880
cartography train, what would 
make a good indicator for 

905
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,240
someone to experience a transit 
in one location versus another? 

906
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,760
That's a great question. 
We'll probably answer that one 

907
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:16,760
here and then do a Part 2 on the
patron only Jenesse or Genesee, 

908
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,440
like Tennessee. 
Got it. 

909
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,920
Genesee, what in astrology do 
you feel needs to be heard or 

910
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,600
focused on more, and what gets 
too much focus that you find as 

911
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,320
less demanding of your 
attention? 

912
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,880
My God, Genesee, I could write a
book. 

913
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Do I have thoughts on that? 
We'll try tackling a little bit 

914
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,080
of that here. 
That could be a whole episode. 

915
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,840
Miss Laura Dubs, what inspired 
you to be an evolutionary 

916
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,520
astrologer? 
And what's the difference 

917
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,480
between American and European 
astrology? 

918
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,640
And that's a really good 
question as well. 

919
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,480
I think I'll, I'll tackle those 
here. 

920
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,720
Let's see, we've got people 
jumping on the Astro cartography

921
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,280
pile. 
Not necessarily a question, says

922
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,480
Shelby. 
But just jumping on the pile. 

923
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,440
It'd be cool to hear about your 
experiences living in different 

924
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,360
areas and how that 
astrologically affected you. 

925
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,920
I talked a little bit about that
already on the podcast, but I 

926
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,520
think that's just a good thought
to keep in mind. 

927
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,920
And over the next couple of 
weeks, I'll share my insights. 

928
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,400
And especially like this trip, 
last trip was its own thing and 

929
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,520
you guys can read about that. 
And the lorry thinks out loud. 

930
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,680
What is it at category 
collection? 

931
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,160
Sorry it's late, my brain just 
went in the collection. 

932
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,520
Laurie thinks out loud. 
I wrote articles two years ago 

933
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,240
when I was traveling with my 
daughter. 

934
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,880
But yeah, I'm looking at things 
a little differently this time. 

935
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,120
And to describe and even write 
about my experiences. 

936
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:54,600
So stay tuned for that. 
Alicia asks, adding to the Astro

937
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,760
cartography train. 
How was your Venus return in 

938
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,480
London and what insights did you
have? 

939
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,400
How this played out compared to 
if I would have stayed in the 

940
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,680
States. 
You know, I'll, I'll tackle that

941
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,840
a bit in this episode and it's 
another one of those. 

942
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,160
I think we'll just talk about it
as time goes along. 

943
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,560
Miss Laura Dubs asks again. 
Can I just say that I love these

944
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,720
calls for questions. 
You're welcome. 

945
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,480
Miss Laura Dubs Alyssa asks a 
really interesting question. 

946
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,280
I think I'll answer this more 
deeply in the patron only, but 

947
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,040
we'll, we'll bring up the 
question right now and then 

948
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,160
we'll look at how we're going to
answer that here. 

949
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,240
Ancestral tries to land in Astro
cartography and mainly I've been

950
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,960
looking at places my ancestors 
have come from and the planetary

951
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,960
lines and trying to learn about 
myself from this. 

952
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,840
I don't know this if this is 
what I'm supposed to be doing 

953
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,280
though. 
Just something I thought about. 

954
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,800
I've got that. 
So looking at places, I can't 

955
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,600
pronounce the place where your 
grandma came from or I would 

956
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,920
mention it, but I don't want to 
butcher it. 

957
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,840
So anyway, yeah, I can talk 
about that a little bit. 

958
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,400
I'll talk a little bit here, but
I'll definitely go more in depth

959
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,080
in the patron, only in the 
community pod. 

960
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:20,880
Let's see AG, the question is, 
what exactly is affecting us? 

961
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,600
Is it energy, gravity, the 
interactions between the 

962
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,760
placement of the planets? 
Like how is the sausage made? 

963
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,480
So you're looking at why does 
astrology work? 

964
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,480
OK? 
Like why do we attribute the 

965
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,680
different energies to different 
ways consciousness expresses? 

966
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,400
And I can't answer that here, 
that I think that's an important

967
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,280
question, but I could, you're 
probably not going to like the 

968
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,920
answer is because it's a lot 
like because we said so, but 

969
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,760
we'll answer that. 
And then Andy asks, can you talk

970
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,200
about the higher octave of or 
Uranus being the higher octave 

971
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,480
of Mercury? 
I'm enthused on the groupthink 

972
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,560
versus someone's own intellect. 
I love when you talk about 

973
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,960
astrological transits and how it
works. 

974
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,760
Thank you, Andy. 
That is its own podcast episode 

975
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,560
as well. 
But I'll, I'll answer it a 

976
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,200
little bit here and then in more
depth for the patron only pod. 

977
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,760
So let's let's go to the Astro 
cartography questions first. 

978
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,800
So JC's question about dealing 
with a transit. 

979
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,600
So first of all, transits and 
planetary returns are both the 

980
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,640
same and different. 
So when you're looking at 

981
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,000
transits, they're on the outside
of the Natal wheel. 

982
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,440
OK, so you have your birth 
chart, and then when you make a 

983
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,240
chart that shows the transits to
the Natal chart, those are 

984
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,280
outside of it because the moving
energy is moving around the 

985
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,400
static energy of the snapshot of
time and space crystallized into

986
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,440
physical form, which is you. 
That's your birth chart. 

987
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,480
You and your birth chart, you're
synonymous. 

988
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,720
The transits are impacting you 
in different sectors of life, 

989
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,760
OK? 
Or arenas of life. 

990
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,320
That's what the houses are. 
And there's signs in the houses 

991
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,600
and bloody, bloody blah. 
So first of all, by transit, 

992
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,160
unless you're going to stay 
somewhere for a really long 

993
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,400
time, just going somewhere for a
day isn't going to change your 

994
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,880
relationship to the transit 
itself. 

995
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,960
The transit will continue 
transiting the Natal chart. 

996
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,680
You could do it comfortably or 
uncomfortably, I suppose. 

997
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,720
But even if you thought you were
seeking comfort, if it's a if 

998
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,800
it's a transit where you have to
do some deep thinking and deep 

999
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,720
diving and healing, you know, 
believe it or not, even going to

1000
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,280
a beach with a Mai Tai may not 
be giving you what you thought 

1001
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,920
you were going to get. 
A return chart is a different 

1002
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,120
story. 
So even though yes, a return, a 

1003
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,840
planetary return, whether it's a
lunar return, a solar return, a 

1004
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Venus return, a Mars return, a 
Saturn return, yes, it is a 

1005
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,760
transit. 
And that transit starts when the

1006
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,320
planet is within orb of the 
Natal placement. 

1007
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,400
But the return itself makes a 
chart. 

1008
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,240
OK, so your Natal placement is 
like a default setting. 

1009
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:25,240
A return chart shows a theme for
a period of time that is based 

1010
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,440
on your Natal chart, but it's 
separate. 

1011
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,000
It's its own thing. 
It shows a theme. 

1012
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,840
OK, so for transits, you're 
going to go through it no matter

1013
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,040
what. 
It's going to happen just like 

1014
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,720
you're going to have a return no
matter what. 

1015
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,360
If you want to set the return 
chart in a more amenable 

1016
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,840
situation, then yeah, a 
relocation can help. 

1017
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,040
In my case, with this Venus 
return, I did something I've 

1018
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,400
never done. 
I've always lived with the 

1019
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,080
return as it was because I had 
very wise teachers. 

1020
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,640
You know, I had some famous ones
that people have heard of, but 

1021
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,600
I've also had people who were 
extremely accomplished 

1022
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,440
astrologers that nobody had ever
heard about that had immense 

1023
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,560
backgrounds and who had studied 
with, you know, amazing, 

1024
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,280
masterful astrologers. 
And so when I was a young woman 

1025
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,720
learning astrology, these guys 
were like, well, you can 

1026
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,640
relocate, but you're missing 
this, this and this. 

1027
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,440
So I'd look at a solar return 
and be like, oh, no, it's an 

1028
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,920
8000 solar return. 
And they're like, well, you're 

1029
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,160
not going to die. 
That's not what that means, you 

1030
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,360
know? 
And they'd be like, you have to 

1031
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,960
transform. 
Well, I did need to transform 

1032
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,040
back then. 
I needed to vastly shift my 

1033
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:48,160
perceptions of myself, of how 
the world viewed me, of my 

1034
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,200
interactions with other people 
that, you know, I had 

1035
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:57,000
experienced a great deal of 
adversity as a young person, as 

1036
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,360
a child. 
And my perceptions of myself and

1037
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,400
the world were skewed, you know,
about what I deserved, what I 

1038
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,640
didn't deserve, what I needed to
earn, what I didn't need to 

1039
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,360
earn, what I needed to prove, 
what I didn't need to prove, 

1040
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,000
what my value was, what I 
deserved in relationship and 

1041
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,520
agreement across the board, not 
just romance. 

1042
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,120
And I might be only looking at 
something like black and white, 

1043
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,320
good and bad, especially when I 
was younger, right? 

1044
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,680
Because I had the same social 
training everybody else does and

1045
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,680
I had the religious training and
all the beliefs, those were all 

1046
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,960
up on tack. 
And so especially Cosmo, who was

1047
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,720
in his at the time. 
So I'm beginning my life in my 

1048
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,160
mid 20s and Cosmo is at the end 
of his in his 90s. 

1049
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,720
He was born in the early 1900s. 
He wasn't born in 1900, but 

1050
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,840
close. 
And he really taught me about 

1051
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,520
perspective and experience and 
why it matters. 

1052
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,320
And I still had the hubris of a 
young astrologer. 

1053
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,280
And he never gave me a hard time
for it. 

1054
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,520
He'd laugh at me, you know. 
But Cosmo. 

1055
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,280
And that was his real name, 
guys. 

1056
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,440
I wasn't just like a username on
the Internet. 

1057
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,520
He was an astrologer named 
Cosmo. 

1058
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:17,000
And I think that's very cool. 
He, he impressed upon me that I 

1059
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,880
wasn't seeing everything and 
that I might just want to go 

1060
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,040
through the experience and 
record it. 

1061
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,760
And I had, I had stinking 
thinking, you know, I, I had 

1062
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,800
seen enough, been through enough
that my expectations of good 

1063
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,600
things were low. 
They were low. 

1064
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,240
And I was always pleasantly 
surprised when, when they 

1065
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,840
happened because for me, the 
habit was when life got good, 

1066
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,400
things went away. 
I lost people. 

1067
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,680
I lost things that mattered to 
me. 

1068
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,280
You know, I had to make these 
life and death decisions a lot, 

1069
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,120
and there was always loss 
involved. 

1070
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:00,480
And that was really hard to deal
with, you know, And I think a 

1071
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,040
lot of people can understand 
that, especially when times are 

1072
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,680
difficult like they are now. 
It's easy to worry about the 

1073
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,920
closet of shoes getting ready to
drop or the rug being pulled out

1074
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,280
from you. 
You're like, oh, I have this 

1075
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,320
opportunity. 
You know, it didn't mean I 

1076
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,480
didn't do well. 
It didn't mean I didn't succeed 

1077
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,240
or meet goals. 
I also had unreasonably high 

1078
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,720
expectations on myself as a 
young person, Especially if 

1079
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,800
you're under resourced or under 
networked, you know those things

1080
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,000
matter. 
It's not just what you know. 

1081
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,400
There's a reason I say knowledge
isn't power unless you know how 

1082
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,880
to use it. 
And some of that is through 

1083
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,520
connecting with other people. 
And, and I wasn't good at 

1084
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,120
picking out the right people. 
Took me a long time to learn 

1085
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,520
that I was really good at 
getting teachers. 

1086
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:55,720
OK, that was about it. 
I chose not to relocate for a 

1087
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,480
lot of those returns until this 
year. 

1088
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,560
You know, this year I decided to
because A, it was easy for me to

1089
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,360
do. 
I was already coming this 

1090
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,800
direction anyway. 
It was just a matter of deciding

1091
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,960
which date and it fit with the 
goals of the year. 

1092
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,560
It was like, Oh my God, that's 
exactly what we've been 

1093
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,200
planning. 
This one, please, The other one 

1094
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,480
and this kind of there was a 
second question asking, you 

1095
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,840
know, how would have been 
different. 

1096
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,200
It was if I was in the States, 
it would have been more 

1097
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,320
planning. 
You know, it would have been 

1098
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:34,800
more set up. 
It still would have happened and

1099
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,760
stuff was going to more stuff 
would come out of the blue 

1100
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,800
instead of showing up. 
Stuff will still show up with 

1101
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,360
this experience. 
So it's a 14 month theme. 

1102
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,840
It's not, it's not just the day 
itself. 

1103
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,520
It's a theme. 
That chart shows information for

1104
01:07:54,520 --> 01:08:00,400
14 months out into the future. 
So interesting things were 

1105
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,840
already happening before I left.
I had some the week before the 

1106
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,680
return were some very, very 
fascinating and interesting 

1107
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,560
events and things that came out 
of left field. 

1108
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,960
And I think more of that might 
have happened. 

1109
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,399
I think I have to be more 
strategic with this one, which 

1110
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:22,920
is something I plan on being. 
And my daughter and I were 

1111
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,240
already planning on the things 
like the branding and upping the

1112
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,040
quality, getting some different 
podcasts out that aren't 

1113
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,920
astrologically focused per SE. 
Everything I do is astrological,

1114
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,640
but I don't always use 
astrological ease. 

1115
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,680
I don't always speak in the 
astrological terms, you know, so

1116
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,680
like healing the money wound, 
the book, the framework for 

1117
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,120
rebuilding confidence, value and
wealth. 

1118
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,520
There's no astrology outright in
there. 

1119
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,640
I've translated it all because 
astrology deals with every 

1120
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,479
aspect of life. 
And if you want to be a really 

1121
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,880
good astrologer, you need to 
have a lot of information about 

1122
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,720
a lot of things. 
It is a polymaths game. 

1123
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,720
If you're going to be a 
masterful astrologer, it's not 

1124
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,920
just about getting out a book 
and reading definitions. 

1125
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,000
That's a place to start. 
It's not a place to finish. 

1126
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,640
OK, it's a stepping stone, but 
it is not the cooked full meal 

1127
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,479
deal. 
So I hope that answered those 

1128
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,880
questions. 
Let's see Genesee, what in 

1129
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,800
astrology do you feel needs to 
be heard or focused on more and 

1130
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,160
what gets too much focus and I 
find as less demanding of my 

1131
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:44,279
attention got so many things. 
This is a hard one day answer I 

1132
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:48,240
could answer this every episode.
I think there is an over focus 

1133
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,439
on the big three. 
I think the big you know the my 

1134
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,480
sun moon and rising or however 
people want to express that big 

1135
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:59,680
three because it's a great 
icebreaker. 

1136
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,320
It's a great thing to have at a 
networking event or a party to 

1137
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:08,720
get talking to people, but it 
has no more depth than that. 

1138
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,280
I think a lot of people will 
bring their biases into the 

1139
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,680
table because you know, like 
some people like I hate Gemini's

1140
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,680
or I hate Scorpios or I hate 
Leo's and you really don't. 

1141
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,880
You probably know people with 
placements and all those signs, 

1142
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,240
and you probably have placements
with those signs as well. 

1143
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,320
Or everybody has all 12 signs in
their chart, whether you have a 

1144
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,360
placement in it or not directly.
So a lot of times when we don't 

1145
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,680
like certain energies because 
it's a reflection back to an 

1146
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,120
aspect of self we don't like 
about ourselves. 

1147
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:46,200
But when it comes to the big 
three, it's like saying I was 

1148
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:51,400
born in this country, in this 
province or state, in this city,

1149
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,320
you know, and you can not just 
sit ahead and say, OK, all 

1150
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,280
right, it's an American from 
Oregon who was born in Portland.

1151
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,320
And you can make assumptions 
about that. 

1152
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,840
And some of them might be pretty
accurate, but it's really not 

1153
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,360
going to tell you a whole lot 
more about the person than that.

1154
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:12,720
So you know what else transits 
out of context? 

1155
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:17,800
You know, these, if you're a 
cardinal sign, this is what this

1156
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,360
means for you. 
Notice I don't do a lot of 

1157
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,760
those. 
I could probably get a lot more 

1158
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,280
traffic if I did, but it's bad 
astrology. 

1159
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,280
So I think a lot of times people
over emphasize the outer planets

1160
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,920
to the detriment of what's 
happening in the interior. 

1161
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,880
There's that as well. 
So that's my short answer. 

1162
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,760
But again, I could probably do a
whole podcast series, not just 

1163
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,960
an episode on that very 
question. 

1164
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,600
So if you have follow-ups for 
that, let me know. 

1165
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:51,960
In the Q&A Magazine Deep Dive 
chat, Miss Laura Dubs what what 

1166
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,920
made me want to be or what 
inspired me to be an 

1167
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,480
evolutionary astrologer. 
So when I first started studying

1168
01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:03,200
astrology, I didn't realize 
there were so many branches and 

1169
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:08,480
psychological astrology was 
really prevalent and I was 

1170
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:11,400
interested in that. 
And then I was lucky enough, and

1171
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,960
I mean that lucky enough to have
teachers who demanded I learned 

1172
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,960
mundane astrology on top of 
personality and psychological 

1173
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,360
astrology because they were 
trained old school. 

1174
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:28,560
But at the time, it was 
considered not done because it 

1175
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,720
was equated to fortune telling, 
which is very different. 

1176
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,360
Fortune telling and forecasting 
are two different things. 

1177
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:41,400
So I kind of took to mundane 
like a duck to water because of 

1178
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,600
my background as a political 
analyst. 

1179
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,200
Very similar skill sets. 
I mean I always say it's data 

1180
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,080
analysis by evolutionary 
astrology. 

1181
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,480
It's funny, I was introduced to 
esoteric astrology around the 

1182
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,840
same time and both mattered a 
lot to me. 

1183
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,920
I have spent my whole life 
needing to believe in something 

1184
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,840
bigger than me. 
Understanding smaller than small

1185
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,760
and bigger than big. 
My interaction with quantum 

1186
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:16,640
mechanics theory in college. 
Being forced to take that class 

1187
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,440
vastly shaped my worldview and I
just couldn't imagine we were 

1188
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:25,040
just destined to have these 
experiences like video game 

1189
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,040
characters or characters in a 
book where you know you're born 

1190
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,520
with this one intent and you get
no wiggle room. 

1191
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:38,320
In my book Healing the money 
wound, I dedicate it to my 15 

1192
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,480
year old self. 
OK, or the acknowledgments are 

1193
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:45,320
to my 15 year old self. 
It's dedicated actually to my 

1194
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,880
daughter for being the light on 
my path, forcing me to be a 

1195
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,800
better human. 
But at 15, I was told I'd always

1196
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,640
be broken because of what had 
happened to me and that I would 

1197
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,960
never be OK, That I just have to
cope and suck it up and have a 

1198
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,960
shitty life. 
And I didn't believe that at 15.

1199
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,880
I was like, I don't believe 
we're fated to have it. 

1200
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:16,360
All good, all bad, you know, I 
know I have had good things 

1201
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,000
happen. 
I don't see why I would always 

1202
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,640
struggle. 
I had to believe in order to 

1203
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,120
survive that things could and 
would be better. 

1204
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:30,040
And to me that's evolutionary. 
I call what I do the brand of 

1205
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,640
astrology. 
I do progressive evolutionary 

1206
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,920
astrology. 
And the reason I do that is from

1207
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,680
the very beginning, I did not 
like the overly what we now call

1208
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:47,240
binary thinking that, you know, 
it's such social constructs and 

1209
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,560
ideas of gender when we're 
interpreting astrology, the 

1210
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,000
meanings of them, of the 
placements, the science, 

1211
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,200
etcetera. 
And I think it was 97 or 98 when

1212
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,960
Jeffrey Wolf Green's work, and 
it could have been later, it 

1213
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,520
might have been 99 where his 
work came into my field of view.

1214
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:13,000
And Stephen Forrest's work came 
and it mirrored a lot of the 

1215
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:19,640
esoteric writings I had read on 
the souls intent for being here.

1216
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,160
You know, whether it was Seth 
Speaks or the Alice Bailey work 

1217
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:30,440
or Annie Buzant, Rudolf Steiner,
even, you know, Buckminster 

1218
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:34,080
Fuller, you know who wasn't 
known for his metaphysics. 

1219
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,800
He was, you know, a social 
experimenter. 

1220
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,400
And Carl Jung's work, of course,
universal symbolism. 

1221
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,480
And Viktor Frankel. 
Viktor Frankel was a massive 

1222
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:46,840
influence in my life. 
I found his book Man, Search for

1223
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,840
Meaning in the library when I 
was like 11 or 12 and reading 

1224
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,680
that changed everything for me. 
It's not a very long book. 

1225
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:58,080
It's not a hard read. 
It's hard subject matter, but I 

1226
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,680
was like, man, if he could go 
through that, I can survive what

1227
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,360
I'm going through back then. 
So I just had this problem with 

1228
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,200
people telling you you can have 
a good life. 

1229
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,320
So I ran into Jeffrey Wolfskreen
and Steven Forrest's work early 

1230
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,520
on and Arroyo's as well. 
And I got to take a pre 

1231
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,600
conference workshop at NORAC 
with Jeffrey Wolfgreen on a 

1232
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,200
totally separate subject. 
It was like medical astrology or

1233
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,200
something. 
And that was back in 2001. 

1234
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,240
And he was just a really 
fascinating teacher, thinker, 

1235
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,160
philosopher. 
And I was already leaning in 

1236
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,200
that direction. 
I think I've always leaned more 

1237
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,600
to how can I evolve as a human 
being. 

1238
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,440
Self actualization has always 
been something really important 

1239
01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:44,440
to me. 
And I felt if we just 

1240
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:49,480
interpreted with determinism in 
mind, but we really robbed 

1241
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:53,720
people of potential experiences.
So thank you for that question. 

1242
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,920
But that that's how it happened.
It's never just one thing. 

1243
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,280
I think I was always that way 
just naturally. 

1244
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,320
But at the same time, when these
things showed up, I was like, 

1245
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,200
yeah, that's what I'm looking 
for. 

1246
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,240
And then like I said, I just 
think, you know, we can always 

1247
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,160
stand upon the shoulders of 
giants, but we can also refine 

1248
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,920
and improve things. 
So that's why I added the 

1249
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,960
progressive part. 
It's not a political perspective

1250
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,360
per SE or a partisan 
perspective. 

1251
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:28,080
It is really about progressing 
our understanding of what it is 

1252
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,160
to be human and to evolve. 
And it's not all based around 

1253
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,520
procreation or past lives, 
etcetera. 

1254
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,480
And I promised on a TikTok I 
would talk about past life. 

1255
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:41,000
So if you're in the magazine 
tear and you have questions 

1256
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,400
around past lives, please put 
them in. 

1257
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,400
I don't negate that they're 
real. 

1258
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,240
I've had my own fair share of 
past life experiences. 

1259
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,640
I think there's an overemphasis 
on that. 

1260
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,440
It's easy to get distracted and 
forget about living in this body

1261
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,160
in this time. 
And so managing that 

1262
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,920
interconnection through time and
space and experience is 

1263
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:08,760
important to help us use that 
knowledge instead of be pulled 

1264
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,800
by it. 
But anyway, so that's why that's

1265
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,120
why I chose to do that. 
These are really good, Okay. 

1266
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,280
What's the difference between 
American and European astrology?

1267
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,440
And that's a really good 
question. 

1268
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:24,120
I think mindset, I think the 
perception and how the 

1269
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,240
interpretations work, emphasis 
on houses. 

1270
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:31,640
I find that there's a greater 
emphasis on house meanings, 

1271
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:36,800
especially in like UK astrology.
No European. 

1272
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,800
You have to remember there's 
lots of different countries, 

1273
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,640
lots of different cultures, and 
interpretation is always 

1274
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,760
cultural. 
So my experience is more with 

1275
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,560
British astrologers and people 
with a background that would 

1276
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,280
equate with British astrology. 
And so there's just kind of a 

1277
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,560
little, it's nuanced. 
The differences are nuanced. 

1278
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,720
I think in America there's often
less nuance in the 

1279
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,840
interpretation, a lot more 
emphasis on weighing and 

1280
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,520
measuring things. 
That can happen in British 

1281
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,360
astrology too, but I find 
there's more of a search for 

1282
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,720
understanding in European 
interpretation and in the French

1283
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,280
books I've been reading. 
As I build my French vocabulary 

1284
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,960
up to speak about astrology, I'm
finding in the French books that

1285
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:33,680
there's actually, it's a more 
poetic understanding of the 

1286
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,680
soul. 
There's a lot more emphasis on 

1287
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,720
the soul and the spirit and 
understanding the different 

1288
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,120
layers of what animates us as 
humans. 

1289
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,920
So there's that. 
That was a great question, 

1290
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,360
Alicia. 
I talked a little bit. 

1291
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,600
How was my Venus return in 
London? 

1292
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,680
It was really good. 
It was, it was really good. 

1293
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,840
It was a really interesting, it 
was a really interesting day. 

1294
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,640
It was a beautiful day. 
I got to see beautiful things. 

1295
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:06,680
I got to experience a really 
lovely tea with my daughter and 

1296
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,520
I was really tired. 
I can just really tired and I 

1297
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,680
just let myself. 
Be taken care of, which was 

1298
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:19,080
great. 
See, I'm going to wind up with 

1299
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,200
Lissa's questions, so let me go 
to AG's. 

1300
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,840
What makes astrology work? 
What is it? 

1301
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,280
So here's the deal. 
Astrology is a system that kind 

1302
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:35,560
of symbolically maps out our 
being spiritual beings having a 

1303
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,080
human experience. 
We are spirit made matter on a 

1304
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:45,040
material plane. 
OK, what makes all of that work?

1305
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,680
Well, nobody has the actual 
answer as to why astrology works

1306
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,640
the way it works. 
We know the sun and moon have 

1307
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:57,240
causality on the planet, right? 
Solar flares impact the planet, 

1308
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,600
lunar movements impact the 
planet. 

1309
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,760
There's a relationship that does
involve gravity, 

1310
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,600
electromagnetism, all of that 
one stuff. 

1311
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,640
But the further out you know, I 
mean, I think the inner planets 

1312
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,160
need to be looked at more 
because I do think they might 

1313
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,280
have more causality. 
But we don't have any proof. 

1314
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:20,480
OK, so why can't really be 
answered because we have never 

1315
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:23,240
had it studied with good 
parameters. 

1316
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,320
But the planets are causal 
anyway. 

1317
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,920
I think they're reflective. 
I think the future is a tree 

1318
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,480
with many branches and it can 
look like destiny. 

1319
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:38,040
It can look like fate, but in 
between A&B, if A is the 

1320
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:42,280
starting point and B is the 
event, you'll see a million 

1321
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:48,080
infant infant testament. 
They can't say the word teeny 

1322
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:52,880
teeny teeny teeny teeny tiny 
micro decisions made in every 

1323
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,560
moment that builds to an 
outcome. 

1324
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,600
So there really isn't why how do
we know it works is because 

1325
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,160
there is over 5000 years of 
documentation and and I want you

1326
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,720
to visualize this and this will 
blend into the ancestral 

1327
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,240
question. 
I want you to visualize no light

1328
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,880
other than the stars and the 
galaxies. 

1329
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:22,720
No light, no light pollution, no
torches, LE DS, no cars, and 

1330
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,400
you're in a field on a hill and 
you're looking up. 

1331
01:22:26,440 --> 01:22:30,880
And the very, very brightest 
objects that appear most of the 

1332
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:36,120
time in the same spots during 
certain seasons, during certain 

1333
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,080
times of year, sometimes they're
rising in the sky in the morning

1334
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,760
and sometimes they're setting at
night. 

1335
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:46,440
Venus, right? 
And we couldn't see Uranus, 

1336
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:48,840
Neptune or Pluto. 
So put those to the side. 

1337
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:54,640
The Mercury through Saturn is 
what we could see with the naked

1338
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,240
eye, plus the sun and the moon 
with all of the other stars 

1339
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,120
presence. 
So imagine the brilliance that 

1340
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,720
people were able to notice and 
then record. 

1341
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,640
And the earliest forms would 
have been looking at the lunar 

1342
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,640
cycles and the solar cycles. 
That's why there were sun gods, 

1343
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,920
moon gods. 
Those are the most common. 

1344
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,720
And then they associated gods 
with the other planetary 

1345
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,960
movements. 
We gave meaning to things we 

1346
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:27,280
observed, and we gave meaning 
through religious or spiritual 

1347
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,320
or superstitious, however you 
want to view it, because they're

1348
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,600
all kind of intertwined to make 
sense of it. 

1349
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,680
But we don't know why. 
Why is not one of the questions 

1350
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,560
that can be answered there until
it's studied. 

1351
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:43,440
I would say it's probably in my 
understanding and what makes me 

1352
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:45,920
feel comfortable is it's quantum
physics. 

1353
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,480
We're all intertwined. 
You know, the hip bones 

1354
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:51,960
connected to the the thigh bone,
like why wouldn't different 

1355
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,120
energies play a role? 
You know, and we've assigned 

1356
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:01,160
meaning to the symbols that we 
use to represent that energy. 

1357
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:03,440
That energy could be a 
combination of a lot of 

1358
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:06,440
different things. 
So the sun could be a 

1359
01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:09,160
combination of a lot of 
different things, The moon could

1360
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:13,400
be a combination of a lot of 
different things, Venus could be

1361
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,040
a combination etcetera, 
etcetera, etcetera. 

1362
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,640
But for our purposes, that's 
what those things mean. 

1363
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,320
There's a spectrum of 
expression, but they have basic 

1364
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,040
interpretations and we work with
those. 

1365
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:34,160
So a lot of it is just like when
I was 14 and I was in an algebra

1366
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,160
class. 
I think it was algebra one or 

1367
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,320
Algebra 2. 
Anyway, Mr. Owens was my teacher

1368
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,520
and he was writing an equation 
on the board. 

1369
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,560
And I've told the story before, 
but I'll tell it again because 

1370
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,640
it's, it's right connected with 
us. 

1371
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:53,960
So he wrote down A + B = C and 
he wrote them in different 

1372
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,880
colors on the board. 
And all of a sudden I had what a

1373
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,840
lot of people call a download. 
But if you can imagine, like, 

1374
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,960
the stream of consciousness just
hitting and slamming into me and

1375
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,840
visuals popping left, right and 
center. 

1376
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,880
And it was like, you know, like 
if you have those scenes in 

1377
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,360
movies or TV shows, static 
photos, you know, or you're 

1378
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,280
going through the Willy Wonka 
tunnel, you know, that kind of 

1379
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,520
thing. 
I'm 14 years old. 

1380
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,520
I can't even remember what I was
wearing because I look super 

1381
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,000
cute that day. 
Remember I was 14 and these red 

1382
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,840
little flats with kitten heels 
and I was wearing my little lace

1383
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:34,920
Bobby socks and my cute little 
peg leg jeans and a cute little 

1384
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,840
off the shoulder type because we
could show shoulders back in the

1385
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,400
80s because people knew 
shoulders weren't sexual 

1386
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:47,680
objects. 
Anyway, anywho I have ribbon in 

1387
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:53,160
my hair because it was cute. 
I felt cute that day, which was 

1388
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:59,520
rare at 14. 
Anyway, my mind was blown and I 

1389
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:04,600
raised my hand and Mr. Owens 
called on me and I said it's all

1390
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,080
made-up. 
It's all made-up. 

1391
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,880
What if A isn't A at all? 
What if we just think it's A? 

1392
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,560
What if? 
What if it's actually Y? 

1393
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,960
And what if B isn't B? 
What what if it's actually D? 

1394
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,200
And how do you know it equals C?
What if it doesn't equal C? 

1395
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,720
What if it equals F? 
You know, we're just, we're just

1396
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,120
believing this is real and it's 
all made-up. 

1397
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,240
Everything's made-up. 
This desk is made-up. 

1398
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,120
The school is made-up. 
We're made-up. 

1399
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,400
And luckily Mr. Owens knew I 
wasn't on drugs because I 

1400
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,120
wasn't. 
I just my brain just talking 

1401
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:45,640
about mind blown and the 
illusion of separation and and 

1402
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,280
seeing through the veil of 
illusion that is our life on 

1403
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,320
planet earth in systems that we 
create, right. 

1404
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,880
And he said, Laurie, you're 
going to confuse everybody, so 

1405
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,000
I'm going to ask you to just sit
there with that. 

1406
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,640
Those are some pretty big ideas.
We'll talk after class. 

1407
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,400
And I was like thinking, oh, 
great, he thinks I'm crazy, but,

1408
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,840
and I'm I was writing stuff 
down. 

1409
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,160
I was just like, Oh my gosh, 
this, this blue could be purple 

1410
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:16,000
and green could be Azure. 
You know, chartreuse could be 

1411
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:21,040
puce, you know, it could be 
opposites, it could be to the 

1412
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,120
side, it could be lateral. 
You know, everything was crazy 

1413
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,320
me. 
There wasn't any good. 

1414
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,240
There wasn't any bad. 
They were just moral assignments

1415
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,720
and, and gender roles. 
And, and so imagine a massive 

1416
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:38,760
deconstruction moment, super 
fun. 

1417
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,760
And after class, he called me up
and he said, hey, he did really 

1418
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,000
good there. 
He held it together. 

1419
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,760
Those are some really big ideas.
Have you studied Einstein? 

1420
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,000
I was like, well, I've read his 
autobiography. 

1421
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,040
I like autobiographies, but I 
haven't studied the math. 

1422
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,480
I don't know. 
I'm not very good at math. 

1423
01:27:58,480 --> 01:28:00,920
He goes, well, I disagree. 
I think you're really good at 

1424
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,640
math. 
And when you're in college, I 

1425
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,840
want you to study experimental 
math. 

1426
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,960
And I was like, OK, did I? 
No, no, I did not. 

1427
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,280
But I was forced to take quantum
mechanics theory. 

1428
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,840
And trust me, my ability to 
think that weird way really 

1429
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,760
helped. 
But he looked at me and I said, 

1430
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,080
but it's not real. 
Why are we having to learn it? 

1431
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,920
And he said because it's 
unassumed truth, we've all 

1432
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,520
agreed that this is going to be 
real. 

1433
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,720
We're having a shared reality. 
And you're right, it can be 

1434
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,360
completely wrong. 
I was like, but if it's 

1435
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,240
completely wrong, what's going 
on? 

1436
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,280
And he's like, if everybody is 
agreeing on it and it's working,

1437
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,920
then the results that work are 
what matters. 

1438
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,360
It's the end point that matters.
Isn't working. 

1439
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,680
Yes. 
Do we know why it's working? 

1440
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,080
Not really. 
And so I think that's a good as 

1441
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,960
good as an answer as Annie, good
old Mr. Owens, if he's still 

1442
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,920
around and somebody knows him. 
Thank you, Mr. Owens, you helped

1443
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:01,560
a lot. 
So there's that. 

1444
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,680
Good question. 
It was a really good question 

1445
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,120
and I'm sorry the answer is a 
little frustrating. 

1446
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:18,800
Let's talk a little bit about 
the higher octave of Mercury, 

1447
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,480
Uranus. 
Thank you for asking, Andy. 

1448
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,640
You're enthused to think about 
the difference between 

1449
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,320
groupthink and individual 
consciousness. 

1450
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,560
So again, we go back to assumed 
truths. 

1451
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,600
All right, so groupthink is 
really based on, we all have to 

1452
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,320
agree on this one thing. 
We're all going to use the same 

1453
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,840
slogans we're all going to use. 
It's like a lockstep. 

1454
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,960
OK, That's groupthink. 
And people often use words 

1455
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:47,800
without great defining, whereas 
individual consciousness can you

1456
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,480
have a definition of what change
means to you. 

1457
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,360
But when you're in a group and 
everybody goes change, we can 

1458
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,760
believe in something like that, 
right? 

1459
01:29:56,360 --> 01:30:01,440
Well, each individual isn't 
asking the group what each 

1460
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,680
person in the group means. 
By that, what is change you can 

1461
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,160
believe in look like? 
You know, that's a really 

1462
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,680
powerful question. 
What does it look like to you? 

1463
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,080
Without those conversations? 
That group think is very empty 

1464
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,240
and very dangerous because it 
leads to disenfranchisement. 

1465
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,440
Whereas if you as individuals 
have a very clear understanding 

1466
01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:23,720
of what that means and have 
conversation with other, then 

1467
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,280
you elevate the conversation and
you disrupt the system's 

1468
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:32,800
thinking to build something 
better, stronger, newer, up to 

1469
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:37,040
date with the times. 
Whereas in just regular 

1470
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:41,840
groupthink, you don't. 
So Uranus actually governs both 

1471
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,080
the groupthink and the 
disruptive thought. 

1472
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,200
You know, it depends on how it's
expressing. 

1473
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,960
Remember, we have a spectrum. 
So from the default setting to 

1474
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:57,440
the expansiveness, and it's not 
from the the groupthink to 

1475
01:30:57,440 --> 01:30:59,640
disruptive rebellious behavior 
at all. 

1476
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:03,520
That's actually all in the same 
spectrum down here in that same 

1477
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,720
frequency, because if you're 
rebelling and you're just 

1478
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,200
pushing against, you're not 
creating anything new, you're 

1479
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,680
not expanding, you're 
perpetuating a cycle usually of 

1480
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,920
violence. 
So there's that. 

1481
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:16,720
So that's what I can say to 
that. 

1482
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,960
Now let's go back to Lissa's 
question and I'll answer this 

1483
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,680
more in depth in the patron 
only, but I think it's it's 

1484
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:30,800
worth a tender hand. 
So ancestral ties to land and 

1485
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:35,360
ask for cartography. 
So As for cartography isn't 

1486
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:40,720
about that necessarily. 
It might be an intuitive trigger

1487
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,840
for you to think about things 
like you mentioned in your 

1488
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,960
question. 
But and in your chart can show 

1489
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,880
location to a certain degree. 
Because remember, the Astro 

1490
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,200
cartography is your chart laid 
out on a map. 

1491
01:32:00,690 --> 01:32:05,560
It will always be a relation to 
you and your what. 

1492
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,200
Because you have to remember 
your family is really wide. 

1493
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,760
Hopefully it is. 
It's a wide tree. 

1494
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,960
And your chart will show your 
connection to previous 

1495
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,720
existences of that tree, whether
it's your paternal line, your 

1496
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,560
maternal line. 
I could see that in a chart. 

1497
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:28,360
OK, but you're really looking at
4th, 8th and 12th houses. 

1498
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,760
The 4th is your immediate family
and your matrilineal line. 

1499
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:37,160
The 8th house will be the 
ancestors who are you've got 

1500
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:41,800
their DNA like strongest from 
you have connected to cultural 

1501
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,200
social traditions in a different
way. 

1502
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,760
It's your inheritance and 
inheritance isn't always money. 

1503
01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:52,360
It's not. 
So it could be various intuitive

1504
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,920
abilities. 
It could be a lineage passed 

1505
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,400
down. 
It could be like, in the case of

1506
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,400
Wendy, it could be, you know, 
one of the questions I asked her

1507
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,880
that I'll never forget in a 
reading, I didn't know anything 

1508
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,520
about her. 
And I was like, oh, hey, you. 

1509
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,040
There's like this traditional 
belief system that you're 

1510
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,680
connected to and you've got a 
grandmother or a great 

1511
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,880
grandmother that's really kind 
of coming to you either in 

1512
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:22,000
dreams or through thoughts, 
trying to help indoctrinate you 

1513
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,440
into this family tradition, you 
know, and, but it's 

1514
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,680
metaphysical. 
It could be healing, it could be

1515
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,520
beings, A priestess, it could be
blah, blah, blah. 

1516
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,720
And she was like, well, let me 
tell you. 

1517
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,920
So that you can look at escrow 
cartography for that. 

1518
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,360
But those lines go through a lot
of places. 

1519
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:43,080
Those lines go across latitudes 
and longitudes, not just a 

1520
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:48,200
specific place, so that those 
those lines indicate where you 

1521
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:53,080
transform, grow, attract, 
assert, where you're energized, 

1522
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,920
where you're lower energy, those
kinds of things. 

1523
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,560
As far as ancestral work, that's
really more of an esoteric 

1524
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,160
astrology matter. 
And I'm not going to say you're 

1525
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:04,880
doing it wrong. 
What I'm going to say is if it 

1526
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,360
provoked those thoughts, then it
did its job. 

1527
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:12,480
And but I wouldn't overly 
associate a lot of astrology to 

1528
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,360
it without background training, 
if that makes sense. 

1529
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,080
I'll talk about this more in 
depth than the patron only, but 

1530
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,120
these were great questions. 
Thank you guys. 

1531
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,560
All right, I'm going to end the 
podcast on talking about how to 

1532
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:30,960
get ready for that new moon in 
Taurus because it is delicious. 

1533
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:41,440
So we've got that New Moon in 
Taurus happening on the 16th, 

1534
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,840
and then we've got Mars entering
Taurus on the 18th and Venus 

1535
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,240
entering Cancer on the 18th, 
which I frame really 

1536
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,680
interesting. 
All of this is about stability. 

1537
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:56,520
All of that is about stability. 
And the New moon is always a 

1538
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:02,000
time to set intentions. 
And with it being in Taurus, it 

1539
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,200
is about grounded, being 
grounded. 

1540
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:10,440
And I wouldn't be grounded in 
any societal or cultural 

1541
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:13,400
perspective, but really being 
grounded inside of yourself, 

1542
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:19,240
really chaining into what makes 
you feel satiated, satisfied, 

1543
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:23,680
connected to yourself. 
Like, what makes you feel held 

1544
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,560
Besides being held? 
What is that cozy feeling 

1545
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,840
inside, you know, right after a 
good meal where you maybe need 

1546
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,240
to take a nap? 
It's so good, that kind of 

1547
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,640
feeling, this new moon is 
happening in the later degrees 

1548
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,280
of the sign. 
I believe it's happening at 25 

1549
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,480
and some change, and that means 
it's a project already in 

1550
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:47,040
process. 
So practicing feeling secure 

1551
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,800
inside of yourself, not being 
overly reliant on outside 

1552
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,080
circumstances. 
Yes, we all need food, water, 

1553
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,680
shelter. 
How we go about getting that, 

1554
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,800
how we go about enjoying that is
another issue. 

1555
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,320
And and one of the things about 
Taurus is it's all things that 

1556
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,280
appreciate and appreciate means 
gain in value. 

1557
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,200
So when we learn to appreciate 
what we've got, that's already 

1558
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:14,160
working, what we've got, like, 
you know, it is where you're 

1559
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,360
like, I don't have anything to 
eat in the house, but you do, 

1560
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,160
you do, you just don't want to 
cook. 

1561
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:23,920
There's a big difference if your
pantry is full of yummy food or 

1562
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:28,160
the ingredients to making yummy 
food, you can appreciate that 

1563
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:33,000
into a meal, OK, That kind of 
thing. 

1564
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:37,080
So look at your projects, things
like that, going down through 

1565
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:41,680
the magazine. 
And again, I want to remind 

1566
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:50,800
magazine subscribers that you 
get you get the new and full 

1567
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:57,040
moon information in the magazine
every single month, including 

1568
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,600
journal prompts. 
Including journal prompts. 

1569
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,280
I'll give you a taste of that 
here. 

1570
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,760
This new moon is really 
powerful. 

1571
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,000
Don't let anybody talk you out 
of setting your intentions. 

1572
01:37:07,480 --> 01:37:11,360
There isn't a new moon. 
You can't do that. 

1573
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,360
Even if it were an eclipse and 
it's not, You can set 

1574
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,320
intentions. 
There's never a bad time to 

1575
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,960
manifest. 
There's bad ways of looking at 

1576
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,400
manifesting, but there's no bad 
time to set intentions for 

1577
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,120
manifestation, which means to 
reveal. 

1578
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:30,360
OK, that's what the word means. 
All right, so here's what the 

1579
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,000
moon is doing. 
I'm just going to read a little 

1580
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,200
bit from the magazine here to 
give you a taste because this 

1581
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:40,200
happens every month. 
You get the new moon and the 

1582
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:43,120
full moon info. 
So the new moon in Taurus is 

1583
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:47,960
going to slow things down so you
can build something that lasts. 

1584
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:49,720
You're building security 
forward. 

1585
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:55,520
If you've been overly reliant on
corporations, other businesses, 

1586
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:59,080
not looking at your own skill 
sets, not looking at how you can

1587
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,080
build your own stability 
forward, you're leaving yourself

1588
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,320
vulnerable. 
I'm not going to, not saying 

1589
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:05,440
you're all going to lose your 
jobs. 

1590
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:09,440
I'm not, but you want to build 
your own security and and you 

1591
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:14,360
got to do this with a steady, 
practical and focused point of 

1592
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,320
view. 
This isn't about get rich quick.

1593
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,320
This isn't about, you know, jump
out of your job and be 

1594
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,520
successful in three weeks. 
Doesn't happen that way. 

1595
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,440
Remember, you're setting 
intentions during the new moon 

1596
01:38:26,440 --> 01:38:28,840
to see some fruition in the full
moon. 

1597
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,400
So you may already be working on
something. 

1598
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,040
It could be making sure your 
garden's put together. 

1599
01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:37,760
It could be making sure you're 
setting up paperwork correctly 

1600
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,640
for yourself. 
Your your systems for receiving 

1601
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,200
are in good stead. 
You're working on those things. 

1602
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,800
It could be paperwork. 
It could be finances. 

1603
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:52,880
It could be less investments but
more like putting your money to 

1604
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,720
work. 
I wouldn't jump all in with my 

1605
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:59,200
savings account on anything. 
Never leave yourself without a 

1606
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,440
kush. 
You could be looking at a side 

1607
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:05,360
get to bring in more money to 
make that kush or that nest egg 

1608
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:09,600
back bigger and better. 
So the question you really want 

1609
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:14,160
to ask yourself is what do I 
have that I want more of and 

1610
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,800
what can I build with what I 
already have to work with? 

1611
01:39:18,440 --> 01:39:21,560
With this new moon, it's, you 
know, trying to ask for the 

1612
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,600
magic bullet or the magic wand 
to work for you is probably not 

1613
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,160
going to get you where you want 
to go. 

1614
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:32,720
So you can find out more by 
going to the awake space and 

1615
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,680
grabbing a copy of the magazine 
or if you're a subscriber, 

1616
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,200
download it. 
I'll put the link in the show 

1617
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,760
notes. 
This is a really, really 

1618
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:45,960
powerful new moon and I would be
setting intentions around what 

1619
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,880
makes me feel stable, what makes
me feel comfortable. 

1620
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,840
The more you focus on why you're
not stable, what you have 

1621
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,520
against you, why your 
circumstances suck, the harder 

1622
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,600
it's going to be to make things 
happen that really benefit you 

1623
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,000
over time. 
Like it really matters how you 

1624
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,120
how you accept things. 
So the more you're sitting there

1625
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,480
asking with your hands closed, 
please, please, please. 

1626
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,600
The less you're able to receive 
so you can set intentions around

1627
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:18,240
being receptive and appreciating
of the opportunities that come 

1628
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,240
your way. 
It may not be the dream job, but

1629
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,960
it could be with the company 
that is perfect for what you 

1630
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,280
need and gives you a foot in the
door. 

1631
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:31,840
Needing everything perfect on 
entry is going to really hold 

1632
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,000
your back because you're making 
it more difficult to reveal 

1633
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,800
itself to you. 
You want to make things easy to 

1634
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,440
be revealed, and that's on you. 
That's on your intentions, 

1635
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:44,840
that's on your perceptions. 
And we can blame the past all we

1636
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,440
want, but we're living in the 
here and now and we got to deal 

1637
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:50,000
with the present moment. 
And in the present moment, 

1638
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,280
pretty much everybody's on even 
ground. 

1639
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:58,440
So there's that. 
All righty, it is time for me to

1640
01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:01,360
take a rest. 
And so I think it's time to wind

1641
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,840
up the podcast. 
I want to thank each and 

1642
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,640
everyone of you for listening, 
whether you're a community 

1643
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,800
supporter or, you know, just 
tuning in for the first time. 

1644
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,280
If you're one of the free 
members of the Awake Space, I 

1645
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:19,400
want to thank you especially for
being a believer in what we do. 

1646
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:23,680
Please listen and comment on our
videos on all of our socials. 

1647
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,040
That is very helpful and it 
helps get the word out about 

1648
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,520
what we do. 
And if you're a magazine 

1649
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:35,760
subscriber and, and up, if you 
liked those Q&A's, well keep the

1650
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:41,720
Q&A's coming. 
Make sure you see the Q&A thread

1651
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:46,880
slash community chat and we'll 
help make sense of it together. 

1652
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:51,200
Alrighty, I'm Lori Rivers, your 
host, and I look forward to 

1653
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:52,760
talking to you next week.