It's the Awake Space Astrology podcast.
I'm Marie Rivers, your host here to help you with some
inspiration to get those aspirations out into the world.
Can you believe we're in the last week of August?
That's nuts. It's nuts, I tell you.
And we head on towards eclipses in September.
We're going to talk a little bit about this this week, but I'll
really hammer it on next week. I want you to understand there's
a lot of people who talk about astrology who are just kind of
Bsing. There's there's just repeated
false information online. And I used to call it Tumblr
astrology. Now it's on the ticky talkie.
I even find it in metaphysical shops, crystal shops.
Help go to Satoka. I lived in Satoka right here,
and the amount of people who just made shit up was insane.
And then they get really insulted when you'd be like, I
don't think that's how that works.
I'd be like, everybody has opinions and I'm like, and the
universe doesn't always work without your opinion.
You can want what you want. It doesn't always work that way.
And with astrology, we do have rules.
It's a very, very old framework with hundreds and hundreds upon
hundreds of years of observation, correlation, and
actual process. And just because you want
something to be a certain way doesn't mean it is.
And why am I saying that? Because an eclipse is an
eclipse, unless it's visible in your location.
Period. I don't care that you can watch
it on the Youtubes from NASA. I don't care that you can watch
videos of it in the past, it has to be visible in your physical
location. I don't care if you were born in
that location and you moved away.
It is only an eclipse if it happens where you can watch it
with your naked eyeball. Period.
So stop freaking out, I have things to say about it.
Oh the Internet has been great to expand our access to
information. It's been shitty because the
information isn't always correct.
So that's why we look for old books.
And we read really old books. Not not 1960s old, like 15
hundreds old. Things like that doesn't mean
they're 100% accurate either. But you got to use your
discernment and your critical thinking.
Don't buy into it. I don't know why people like to
get scared. Maybe it's the endorphins after
the cortisol rush. I don't know, but you guys got
to stop freaking yourselves out. That's just crazy sauce, Crazy
sauce item. So now that I've had gotten that
out of my system, how are you? Are you doing OK?
It is now Monday, August 25th, and no, somebody didn't keel
over. Funny thing happened.
I had this video that mentions mentions August 24th but of
2022, but nobody ever looks down and looks at the original date
on the video. I know it's in a little teeny
tiny writing but again, I have a rule if I can read it, you can
read it because I got really shitty eyeballs.
Anyway, people were leaving me. Oh we know what that means.
Wank wank. I'm like this is 3 year old
video what is going on? And I didn't realize there was
that whole Simpsons prediction thing.
And I, I was like answering these comments going this is a
three-year old video. This I, I don't know what you're
referring to vatism. Anyway, so somebody, Laura, who
is a patron, let me know. And she said it was a trending
video when you searched August 24th.
And I was like, oh, OK, OK, now I'm getting it.
Now I'm getting it. Well, if you've ever been hated
on by the Internet, you know, if people attribute something to
you that you didn't say, they will still do their damnedest to
cancel you. And so I'm sitting there going,
oh, great. So when nothing happens on the
24th, people are going to come back and say, but you said, you
know, and people don't bother to, like, figure out who
actually said what. They'll just lump every
astrologer, every medium, every psychic, anybody who calls
themselves any of those things together.
And I try to make it really clear what my predictions are.
My predictions stand on that. I won't see dirt naps happening
until early next year in 2026. But Amy.
Oh, so I made a funny kind of kind of funny video.
But that's why, that's why. Oh my God, you guys, I'm on.
Seriously, I know it would be satisfying and trust me, I'll,
I'll throw a party. But it, it's, it's not in the
cards in this moment. We're watching the health crisis
I predicted. Everybody always thinks it's
going to be this instantaneous moment.
And it's like modern medicine doesn't allow for those
instantaneous. Man, I wish I knew what
medications were there because then I could apply astrological
significance to. I could be like, all right, what
was that? OK, we can.
We can figure it out. I'm not Privy.
I'm not Privy to that information.
So rude. Anyway, I'm gonna move my mic
this night. There we go.
And then I don't have to Like, that's why I keep looking over.
I'm like, I don't know. Is my mic right?
But anyway, here's where we're at.
Last week of August of 2025 just had that new Moon in Virgo,
which was Part 1 of A2 parter. That happens in the around the
21st of September, which is also a partial solar eclipse.
And again, we'll talk about this morning in September.
I remember and an eclipse is not an eclipse unless it's visible
where you live. And I'll do a whole thing on
eclipses. I tend to most years where there
are eclipses. They come in pairs.
You know, they're not the big deal that everybody they're they
are, but they're not on a personal level for most people.
So you might be indirectly impacted by them, but people,
people who make so much, they do.
And it's so frustrating to me because it's again, it, it's if
you can prove it, it's not an opinion.
If you can factor it out and show your work, it's not an
opinion. Opinions are not beast.
In fact, you can have a fact based opinion, but if you can't
show the facts, it's hot here. It doesn't matter.
That's like arguing over pink or blue is better there.
There's no wrong answer there. OK, You can't factually prove
something. Help me anyway.
So I'm on one. I'm on one.
I tell you my, my excuse is the moon went over my Pluto.
So if you don't understand what I'm talking about when it comes
to the astrology, because I know I have a whole lot of listeners
who are like, I really like what you have to say.
But when you talk astrology, all I hear is blah, blah, Daisy.
I've got an event August 29th where the real medium Maxilda is
going to be my Guinea pig. I mean my student.
And it's called How to Make Sense of your Astrology Chart so
you can understand what Laurie's talking about.
It is not a how to read astrology charts class.
I am going to help you identify parts of your chart and I'll be
answering questions. And Matilda's really good at
asking questions. She really doesn't know a whole
lot about astrology except because she's had to listen to
me go on and on about it. So she's kind of like the
perfect person to do that. And so it's one going to be fun.
All right. It's a light hearted rump
through the astrology chart. If you're a patron of mine at
the $15 level or up, you get in for free and pretty much it's
unlimited tickets because if you can't get into the Zoom webinar,
it's capped at like 500. It will stream onto YouTube.
OK, so there we go and and I'll have Alicia watch the YouTube
streaming. If if people are and it's a
private YouTube, it's not it's not out to the public.
OK, so you can ask questions in the chat.
Alicia is going to be monitoring.
But it it even if you know astrology, it's going to be
pretty fun. If you don't understand
astrology and you want to know more, it's 15 bucks.
It's 15 bucks. It's like 2 hours.
It's better than streaming a show on Netflix or renting a
video from Blockbuster. Oh, oh, oh, there we go.
So you can, you can sign up for it through the link in the show
notes. That's going to be fun.
People keep asking me when it's going to get better, better as
relatives, you know, better for who you know.
We're watching massive systemic change.
We would be going through massive systemic change one way
or the other because people have to show up and be involved.
And so it gets better. When we make it better, it's
probably going to get a little gnarly before we see a lot of
improvement. And I'm watching more people
stand up for the right thing. Unlikely people, you know,
people who used to just get up, go to work, go get a burrito or
something after work, go home, play a video game, go to sleep.
I'm watching people like that really show up in their
communities. You know, people who might have
been considered a 90 LB weakling or, you know, these aren't big
burly people. The world class these, these are
people who are probably desk jockeys, you know, or people who
had to mind their own business are showing up.
They're taking videos of activities, they're warning
their neighbors. They're showing up and
challenging authority legally and correctly.
They're showing it to public meetings.
They're helping more in in their favorite projects and community
organizations, whether it's going to the library and joining
the library board or joining the friends group, showing up with
school supplies for for school kids, making sure that unhoused
have socks, a little money, some water.
That's very cool. You know, helping people move
forward in lives. More people than ever are
involved in mutual aid. More people than ever are
organizing their voices together to raise up together.
And, and that to me is the thing we need to look at.
We need to celebrate who's showing up instead of
complaining about who's doing the harm.
And, and first of all, these guys get off on people going, Oh
no, don't do it. They really do.
We can talk them because they don't like to be laughed at, but
what they really hate is people celebrating, people
understanding not only their right to come together in
community in the United States, their duty to be civically
involved. And so they really don't like
that when people are educated about their entitlement to be
part of the process and you are entitled to be part of the
process. So you want to talk about
entitlement. We don't have a social caste
system legally in this country. There may be a push to create
one, there may be socially understood social classes, but
it's not codified yet and we are all equal under the law.
It may not always play out that way, but it's codified and each
one of us needs to join with like hearted people and that's
how we make it better. We're in for about a five year
more, five years more of systems shake up and disruption before
we move into any form of stabilization process and
that'll take a minute. These things take time.
We're not just changing the structure in the United States.
This is a global evolutionary planetary process and we're
watching the end of 13000 year cycle and we're watching the
beginning of a new one getting started.
It's a 3000 year old cycle. Honestly, people back in the
Bronze Age could not have conceived.
They would thought we were like aliens or demons or something.
They'd be like, why is that flat picture talking, right?
Kind of like when you thought of the old Harry Potter.
I know JK Rowling's a douche, but that old Harry Potter thing
with the moving pictures right in the 90s, other than TV, Can
you imagine now we have AI that you put a picture of grandma and
she can give you a hug from a picture, you know, so you know,
that's, that's crazy sauce. So who knows what the evolution
is going to be. And it is not the worst time to
be human on this planet. It's not.
Go read through history. There have been very gnarly
times. In fact, it's never been easy to
be human on this planet. We love to talk idyllically, but
there has always been different kinds of diseases, different
kinds of climate disasters different.
And I'm not denying climate change.
Climate change is our biggest problem.
But we have faced over the last 300,000 years some gnarly times
and you are the product of that. You are a descendant of people
who managed to survive in these long enough to breed, survived
intense circumstances, challenging, challenging
landscapes, famines, conflict of one kind or another.
Whether you were battling against nature or you were
battling A neighboring village, humans are resilient.
And resilient says it's strength, it's adaptability,
it's the ability to bounce back after challenging circumstances.
And in a minute, in the next segment, I'm going to talk about
James Dobson passing away and what I've observed with people
talking about their religious trauma.
And I'm going to talk about my mentor because he could not
stand Chase Thompson. My mentor was one of the
founders of what's called positive discipline.
And he was the founding researcher in resiliency
studies. And he was a religious man, but
he was no evangelical. Oh, God, did he have?
He never spoke his opinions in writing because he worked with
all different kinds of groups just to try to get people to
learn to treat children as human beings.
What a concept. But just wanted to know when I
talked about having been a parenting instructor, I didn't
come from the strong willed child stuff.
I did read that book when my daughter was little.
I'll say wait, Stephen Glenn said about her not always being
receptive to the the work that I was doing with him and he had a
really great outlook on that. So we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about what we see in the astrology chart because I've
got more classes coming up in September and I want to hear
from you about my. So I'm going to float some stuff
to you. So make sure you listen to the
next segment and then comment about which classes sound most
interesting to you. One, I'm very, very dedicated
and I'm just trying to decide, you know, is it going to be like
a 2 hour class? Is it going to be like a a split
like 6 hour session? But yeah, we'll see.
We'll see about that. All righty, I don't know what
we're doing together. I don't know if we're driving to
work, but if we are, we're getting perfect parking.
If we are doing the laundry, taking the kids to school, Can
you believe it's already back to school time?
If you're one of my astrology kids, I love you very much and
have a great day at school. If you're not back in school
just yet, are you getting ready for it?
Are you getting your crayons and your pencils and your new shoes,
The new school shoes? That's always exciting.
If you're shopping for that stuff, well, maybe you find the
perfect things on sale. I have good mojo for that.
You can borrow 1 for. Do you want our hot girl Walker
hot guy walk if we're driving our trucks, My favorite trucker
8. I have quite a few long distance
delivery people and truckers. Listen, thank you.
I feel honored. If I could see, I would have
been a truck driver. I would have.
I just can't see, so I don't get to.
But I would be the best coast to coast person other than not
being able to see. But I'm a very good driver.
I just wouldn't want. I've seen how people stop right
in front of a truck, so that would not be good.
But whatever we're doing, let's do it together.
Get your tea, get your coffee, get your water, get your matcha,
get your hot cocoa. You're probably going to be
still cold southern hemisphere, but not as cold as last week, so
fingers crossed. But anyway, let's get talking
and get going. I'll talk about September and
what's in the headlines again is back in the peak rounds, so I'll
go a little bit more in depth with that.
Anyway, let's get going. So James Dobson died May may he
dance with the Kissinger in iron shoes in hell.
So back in the 2000s, back in the 2000s, what sorrow was like
7 Yusuf was like? But Four and Sarah has always
had a mind of her own, and she was born that way.
I didn't. I didn't model that behavior.
She came out knowing her own mind.
She was picking her own clothes out at 10 months old.
She drew her first happy days at 18 months.
Yes, talent does not fall far from this tree.
And Yousef was busy. It was more like Curious George
wasn't ever naughty. He was just a dizzy little guy.
He's got 5 personal placements in Gemini.
His Mercury and his Mars are conjunct.
And having been raised like many of my Gen.
X compatriots now, I wasn't a latchkey kid.
I wasn't. And I had a large extended
family. I didn't say they were
functional, but I had a large extended family and we had multi
generations in that. So I spent a lot of time with my
great grandma. I had an interesting family and
I was very on one hand I did experience extreme drama and on
the other there were people who very much supported me and found
me valuable and loved me. So it was a bit lit on the good
and the bad. What was good was exceptional.
What was bad was the stuff of nightmares.
So it was a very, very, very hard thing to heal from because
it wasn't all bad and it certainly was all good.
So, and when I say it was equal in its intensity, wasn't
getting, I wasn't left on my own devices.
I had people who felt I mattered.
I had a very strong understanding of, of they call
it your locus of control. So I have very strong internal
locus of control. Later in life that became too
strong, you know, because we do, we need to be interdependent.
It isn't about being codependent or ruggedly independent.
It's about being interdependent, right?
And it's a lifelong process. So when I met H Stephen Glenn,
PHDI had been working like many of my compatriots.
We either chose to be very involved parents or they
repeated the mistakes of their family, right?
And so I had read all these parenting books.
I was disgusted by quite a few because a lot of it was
dehumanizing. And I saw my children as
individual human beings from the time they were in the utero
because, you know, my daughter would tickle me like in the
middle of the night. I knew she had a sense of humor
and oh, she does. She's funny.
And, and my son used my bladder as a stress ball and he kicked
in a different way that I was like, So they're very different
people. I knew that before I got the
look in their eyes. And I'd read through these
parenting books. And not all of them were by
Dobson, but there was a whole lot of manipulation,
objectification. And it wasn't really about
teaching children. It was about putting them in
boxes and making sure they did your bidding, as if they were
possessions instead of these beautiful human beings that you
have the honor of guiding through life.
And yes, you are their boss for a little bit because they're
still developing their brains, right?
It's your job to keep them alive.
Sometimes that's easier said than done, especially if you
have a climber. Yeah.
The Gemini could climb.
But anyway, never dropped in, never dropped him.
But he could be like up 15 feet across a room, a big room and
I'd hear Mama catch the blind girl can catch the toddler.
OK I hope it doesn't ever happen again.
But never dropped him. So I read all these books and I
learned some things, but it just sounded like my parents period
in your face, which I wouldn't always recommend when my kids
bring it. Before everybody done their
work, it was all about making kids do things.
It had nothing to do with brain development and nothing to do
with child development. And I'm not talking about the
more progressive stuff. I'm talking about what was
commercial at the time, Right. I had read Steiner.
I had read and I love Steiner's work.
I disagree on the focus on on gender, OK, because it's very
outdated and it's very not with actual facts, right?
So, and I, I read through Montessori and I liked a lot of
that. I like that hands on learning
experience. But when it came to redirecting
kids, when it came to what do you do when your kid cuts the
blinds because they're Maddie, You know, what do you do when
they feed the VCR because it looks hungry?
What do you do when they only sleep 3 to 4 hours of night of a
night when they're four and five years old?
You know, how do you manage that when you're exhausted?
And that's what I was looking for.
I really didn't like most of the parenting books.
I did read The Strong Willed Child because of my daughter.
And I didn't really know who James Dobson was.
You got to remember I wasn't ever evangelical.
I was raised Protestant, but I had embraced Islam.
I lived in the Middle East for 10 years.
I didn't know who these people were.
So back in the States and I was reading through it and there was
a few things that weren't horrendous in there.
And one thing had to do with socks and, you know, not making
your kid wear seams socks if they upset them.
But there was a lot of control and punishment.
And I didn't like that. I didn't like people telling me
how I should raise my kids. I knew my kids inside them, not
only because I'm a very observant person and I was
delighted in my children. They were the coolest things I'd
ever seen. They were my little science
experiments. They were like, not toys.
And I don't mean that in objectification ways.
It's just everything they did, even when they were naughty.
Not that I didn't lose my temper, because I did, but not
for long, because they were so damn funny, right?
And I loved to play with them. It was part of my own inner
child healing because I wasn't good at that and I didn't know I
was neurodivergent and so I could be silly and goofy and
because my brain had finally caught up to being able to do
those things. So I had so much fun.
I bought toys because I liked playing with them and if my kids
didn't, fine, I'd do it. I don't still don't understand
why they didn't like a slinky ink.
They were not into the slinky ink.
I thought that was rude 'cause I'm like, I can play with the
slinky dink for hours. I still care.
But anyway, so I was really frustrated with this process and
and I'm bringing this up because I want some of you who were
raised with these things to understand not everybody is into
it. And that there were experts at
the time. They were saying the opposite of
what James Dobson was saying because you can look up their
work now again, H Steven Glenn's book and he worked with somebody
named Jane Nelson, but it was his research.
Everything was based off it. And there's a book called
Raising self reliant children in a self indulgent that I highly
suggest the language is going to be dated because it was written
in the 80s. But as somebody who, from the
minute my kids were born, I vowed we took up, I vowed that
everything within my power would be done to keep them safe, that
they would be as well adjusted as possible, and that everything
would have to come through me before I heard them.
And I did. I found little tiny babies
looked straight in their eyes and and promised them.
And of course, did I protect them from everything in the
world? Of course not.
I couldn't protect them from racism.
I couldn't. I never thought they'd live in
the United States. But even if we had lived in
Bahrain while they grew up, they would have been hammered for
being part American. They would have because that's
what human beings do. But I swear I'd keep him safe
from physical harm, But I did. I did psychological harm mostly.
I'll pay for the therapy and have done so when I went to the
Stanwood Family Resource Center and I offered to volunteer to
read to the ECAP preschool kids because I wanted my son to have
a little socialization, but I didn't feel like he was ready to
go into daycare or school. We weren't that far out of a
traumatizing event and he wasn't ready to be shoved away from me,
right? So both kids were pretty scared
to be away from me. And my daughter was a little bit
older and she had been used to going to school, so we went with
the normal routine, but my youngest had not.
So I was like, this is a good way to introduce social
activities without having to deal with the very hard weaning.
And in the 90s and early 2000s, most people thought was, well,
just make him do it, he'll get over it.
And I was like, probably won't get over it.
We don't get over things like that.
You have to gently expand the experiences.
So I ended up being a volunteer there and they asked every
single volunteer to take a course called Developing Capable
Young people. It's also called Developing
Capable people. He had to add the young so they
could get grant money for parenting courses because
grantors can be a little obtuse. I was a little annoyed that I
had to take the so-called parenting class, you know,
because I'd read so many parenting books and, and you
have to remember, I was an astrologer.
I constantly read my kids charts.
I understood who they were. I, I could see what their
challenges might be. I could see what kind of support
they needed. I could understand what I needed
to do for me to be a better mother to them.
And so I was a kind of ahead of the game in understanding
children, plus my love of all things human consciousness.
I had studied, you know, brain development, human development,
etcetera, etcetera. So I was annoyed I have to take
this dumb parenting class because that's how they sold it.
They sold it as a parenting course and it's a lot more than
that. But by session three, my hand
was up and I was like, how do I get certified?
How do I get certified in this? How do I get that training?
This can save the world. These aren't essential skills
we're building. And they chuckled.
They go well, we have a training in October.
That was 2001 and I got to work with H Stephen Glenn and he did
something so healing for me because in 1985 I was told by
world renowned psychologists I I would probably be lucky if I
made it the thirty that I'd suffered such severe trauma.
And the juxtaposition of where it was good, it was out of this
world and where it was bad. It was the stuff of nightmares
made that healing almost impossible.
And I said, well, look, you guys work with kids that do a lot of
drugs, run away, don't do well in school.
I none of that is me now. They didn't talk about
overtiever syndrome back then. And I'm like, why?
If you're saying I'm going to be, I'm not those things.
Now, how will that be true when I'm older if I'm already
thinking about consequences now at 15, why would it go out the
window when I'm older? And they just said, well, you're
an enigma. We don't know why you are the
way you are. Well, when you're 15 with a good
vocabulary, I knew exactly what an enigma meant.
And I looked at them and said, are you saying I'm a freak?
And they were like, well, and I'm like, no, no, you just
called me a freak of nature. That's what Enigma means.
I can't be a freak. I won't be a freak.
And I'm like, well, you're special.
And that was a triggering word for me because that was part of
my trauma. I was like, no, no, no, I'm not
special. I'm human and, and I bring that
story up because I was very triggered by psychologists
because of that early experience.
And each Stephen Glenn was wonderful and I, I took a shine
to him, but I was still, you know, think the cautious wild
animal. But he felt safe.
But was he safe? He was a man, but he was kind
and he showed up for people. He really knew how to listen and
he asked us to think of people who showed up for us in life,
teachers, neighbors, you know, people outside your family unit
even you know so and just even one person that one time said,
wow, you're you're pretty cool kid or thanked you for opening a
door or saw you as a human being.
And as I started counting, so many teachers, so many
strangers, so many right time, right place, people had done
enough to offset the stuff of nightmares.
And I was a mess. I sobbed and I sobbed and I
sobbed and I couldn't move. I was waiting for everybody to
leave. It was the end of the day's
training and everybody was leaving this little auditorium,
and I had my head down and my hair has always been about this
length. Sometimes it's a little longer.
And I had my hair over my face and I was trying to control the
racking socks because I realized that I wasn't a freak.
He had gifted me with empirical data to show why I'd made it
past thirty. I was 32.
I'd made it past 30. A lot of my friends hadn't.
I lost a lot of friends to suicide.
I lost friends to drugs and alcohol.
I lost my beloved. I lost the father of my children
to health conditions that went undiagnosed and and self
medication. It was rough and I kept
wondering why. Why me?
Why am I still here? Stephen Glenn sat next to me.
I hadn't noticed right away because I was busy focusing on
like trying to look through my hair to see if people had left.
So I can finally let out a whale that was built in my chest sat
very quietly and I finally noticed him.
He said, what's going on? And out came the whale and I
couldn't speak firmly. I was healing.
And I said they said I was an enigma and you just proved I was
normal and were designed to heal.
Makes me cry because that was a really big burden to imagine
carrying that half your life. I look back at that young lady
who was the same age as my daughter.
Oh, I'm getting all emotional. There's a cancer.
And that man, with his research done the year I was born that
the psychologist had could have had access to because it was
done for the US government. And he sat there and he
listened. He said, you're not afraid.
So I just figured that out. I always said human beings could
heal. And he was absolutely thinking
because what they did was unconscionable.
My God, what a burden to put on your shoulders.
And we just talked for maybe an hour, just the two of us even
reached out his hand, didn't offer to grab my just put it out
if I wanted to put it in. He and I held hands as we talked
through it. And I said I have studied
everything I can. And you just handed me the Holy
Grail because I'll be damned if my kids.
He became my mentor, not just somebody who trained me in his
system, but somebody who encouraged me and said take this
and run with it and I incorporate it into the
astrology I do. He did not like James Johnson.
He didn't believe in punishing and control the and he started
almost every class with discipline means to teach
punishment only teaches people to avoid pain and it is at the
root of addiction. It is at the root of the social
behaviors that 'cause people to be incarcerated.
He had been trying to stop the pull to prison pipeline his that
is why his research got quashed. You can look him up.
H Stephen Glenn, PhD. Man who let me know wasn't a
freak. I mean, I knew.
Well, kind of didn't know because I've always been weird.
I understand you've been through trauma.
I've lived it. I've lived trauma.
And I think religious trauma is unconscionable because for me,
being able to lean into belief when I was a very small child
was was life saving. And as I grew and I began to
understand comparative religions, when I embraced
Islam, I understood things in a different level because I had
not been so damaged in early childhood unbelief.
It makes it hard when things are tough because learning how to
lean into hope and possibility and understanding your value.
If you've been told you are a Sinner, if you've been told that
you are unlovable, if you've been told you're worth nothing,
if you've been objectified, contained, controlled, well, no
wonder if you don't want to develop a faith or have trust,
because that was the same as if somebody cut, cut off a leg,
except it can grow back. So think of your consciousness
more like an octopus. You might have lost the leg, but
you can grow it back. It hurts me to think that people
have been treated so poorly and objectified, and that's why I do
what I do. I'm always here to encourage,
and I may not be the most popular podcaster because of it,
because I know it's distraction that sells.
I know it's the sensational that sells.
I know telling stories about healing can be boring, and I
know I don't have a wee wee. So there's that one.
What do you mean a wee wee, Laurie?
Well, you know, being a woman means that I will always have
people challenging that and saying, well, a man said this.
So fighting the misogyny, the patriarchy and the training that
if you're going to be on camera, you damn well better be, you
know, a certain look. So I will probably always have a
decent sized but I probably won't become the most popular.
Luckily being popular has never been on my agenda nor is being
well liked. Not your little friend.
No kidding. If you were traumatized, I'm so
sorry. If you were traumatized through
the parenting that was pushed out in the 90s and 2000s, there
wasn't a lot out there that was different than Dobson.
H Stephen Glenn was one of the few.
Him and Jane Nelson, and she was still more controlling, but they
made kind of a publishing deal together.
But his work was about relevance, and it is embedded in
the mystery school curriculum. Mystery school was just a tear.
The Amy process that I developed to help people self actually
self realize, build their self understanding, learn how to
problem solve through day-to-day life, set and make plans and
execute. And I've used it in my
astrology. You know, that's why I want to
do it. How to read your kids astrology
chart, how to call it something else, but just a process in
understanding the astrology of the child.
And so and that might be a closer astrology of the child to
help you understand things more because there's a lot of
bullshit out online that scares parents that make you think
you're going to be a terrible parent.
You're already scared anyway because the ones that don't care
are looking at that stuff. And I'd like to to help with
that, but it's always encoded in my work because it forever
changed me or ever changed me. So no, I wasn't afraid.
So let me know which do you like?
How do you know? I think the astrology of the
top. I don't think I'm going to ask
the question. What do you think of the title
the Astrology of the Child? Because that's something I'll
teach in September. Like I just don't have a title
for it yet. I know what I'm going to teach.
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September and what we can expect.
All right, we're going to talk about what's what's coming up in
September. I'm going to give you a little
preview. I'm going to do a little deeper
dive, of course, for patrons. And that's where what's in the
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If you're overseas, that's a hell of a deal since the dollar
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Boy do I know that story. 1987 I'd saved up a lot of money
working. I mean, I took every ounce of
overtime I could get it because I was taking a one way ticket to
Europe and I was going to study in the UK and the dollar tanked
and it didn't just tank a little bit, it tanked a lot and all of
a sudden everything I'd worked for was essentially cut in half
and I did it anyway. It would be 18 again.
It wasn't a ton of money anyway. Seemed like a lot because I was
18. But yeah, I survived.
I'm not going to lie. When I went to Europe last year
with my daughter, I went to the UK and then we did a little
travelling and went to the Middle East and where she was
born in Burning. The first like couple days I was
in London, every time we'd go to dinner, I'd be like kind of
holding my breath. And I realized I was 30 years
transported back in time to if I ate out at a restaurant, I
probably didn't have any money left, you know?
And I was like, every time we'd finish dinner, I'm like, oh, I
still have money. You know, it's so funny how we
time travel in real life. And it took me a minute to go.
You're grown up now. You're not 18 and a starving
student. So it was really fun to be able
to do a go go do a bunch of stuff I couldn't do because I
was broke back in the 80s and into 1990 before I got my first
big girl to. But anyway, let's take a look at
September and I'm going to pull up my handy dandy slides from
the 2025 year ahead. And if you're a PEA training,
you get access to the 2025 year ahead.
I always release the recording about mid year as a perk to
patrons. So the benefit of going to the
live event is you get the Q&A. So the next one's coming up in
December, but Matilda and I, October 11th, we're going to do
our joint event on what we see for 2026 that's a little
different. And get ready, you're going to
see some pretty cool videos. We've got some people going
through the June event we did where we covered the end of 2025
and they've already found 200 predictions that they can be
verified and they've made some videos for us.
So you'll be seeing that soon. What's coming up in September?
So according to my handy dandy slides, September starts off
with a pause. It wasn't that nice.
It's not really starting off with a bang.
It starts with a pause. Partly because Saturn is
retrograding back into Pisces. So the energy is going to change
from the sharp, direct, very fiery form of authoritarianism.
We're going back into that murky territory.
But it's it's a little swampy, but it's also a little less high
energy. It's going to be surreal.
So, but we'll also see structures start to unravel or
dissolve. Doesn't mean just the bad guys,
it means the good guys too. So we're going to see things are
going to get weird, but there's a little bit of a pause.
All right? I do think the weather is going
to snap. The more I've looked at this,
the more I think we're going to go from those extreme highs into
cooler weather. Some places are already starting
to see things pull down. But I think the West, you know,
the West of the United States will probably see a cooling
trend. I think it's going to be a Wet,
Wet winter globally, I believe. So I don't know, that's not
really helping. So I'll sit back so I can read
because my computer's over there, but and I'm wearing my
contacts. So the further away it is kind
of the better. So we could see a little pause,
a ceasefire, a temporary truce or an issue with ocean currents
slowing. Looking at the Atlantic for that
one, we could also see a storm cycling and not moving forward
nor gaining in speed. So if we have a storm system hit
like the East Coast or the southeast, it might just stay
over cycling. It may not be a hurricane per
SE, but it could be a tropical front, it could just be a big
storm and it just may sit there for a bit.
That's usually where flooding happens.
So keep your eye on the weather. First week of September
especially the pause continues though there will be extreme
weather events, storm fronts. And sorry for scowling I'm I'm
trying to read and potential issues with viruses or illnesses
as there has been throughout 2025.
Just because they're not talking about it doesn't mean it isn't
happening. I really expect a bad flu year,
COVID to spike and we could see a couple of other viruses up on
deck. So wash your hands, wash your
hands, wash your hands. OK wash your hands, wear masks.
It's not a popularity contest, OK, just if you, especially if
you have to be out and you're also needing to protect
yourself, mask up, especially if you're on an airplane.
Because, you know, even even before the pandemic, back in the
80s and 90s, I got the sickest when I would travel on airplanes
because people get on their sick.
You're in that controlled space, the air is playing, It's not
filtering enough. I don't care what they say.
I got the worst bronchitis, the worst upper respiratory
illnesses on flights. If you wear a mask, you diminish
the potential for you getting sick or making other people
sick. So if you're hacking up a lung,
please wear a mask. I do not want to sit next to
somebody hacking up a lung that is unmasked.
That's rude. OK, wear a mask.
So there's international effort to create or generate some new
kind of protocol. Now, this could do with Ukraine.
Notice that was a very historic meeting when the European
leaders showed up with with Zelensky.
And so there may be some protocol being developed or a
way to answer that. There is an assessment of damage
or or addressing infrastructure issues.
This could be because of weather, this could be because
of climate change. It could also be because of
conflicts. There's a tenemented tentative
agreement under negotiation. So this could again be the
Russia, Ukraine. I don't really think it's
totally to do with Israel, 'cause I think Israel's going to
keep doing what they want to do. They've been very unwilling to
to listen to international organizations or the global
community. This could have to do with NATO,
the EU, bricks, international courts, G7, 0AU, GCC.
These could be trade agreements as well.
All organizations are getting ready for something on the
horizon. So there's some kind of event
coming that these organizations are trying to work on now.
This could actually be economic. This could be looking at
potential conflicts. This could be looking at climate
change. There's some things people are
getting ready for and we may hear about it in September all
let's see. It could be weather, it could be
sea level rise. We could see natural events are
causing this pause in aggression.
So there could be something that happens that forces
negotiations. So we'll see about that.
And then and then we wind up around September 18th, there's a
some kind of significant storm that could happen.
This could be a tropical storm, a hurricane or a typhoon.
There could be some incredible stories of survival, community
and people coming together with that.
The month ends with unseasonable weather globally, meaning the
temperatures should drop pretty significantly and negotiations
between nations fall apart around the 22nd.
So at the beginning of the month, we get a little bit of,
oh, they're going to work on it. And by the 22nd, it's like this
could be something to do with Israel, Iran, Lebanon and or
Jordan. And we could see an issue with
the leadership in Jordan. And I'll talk about that more in
the Patron only. But yeah, so just interesting
things going on, getting this set up for October.
We do have eclipse seasoning in September and I'll talk about
that more next week. I wouldn't worry too much about
these on a personal level. The partial solar eclipse is
visible in New Zealand, a strip of Australia, so the part of
Australia closest to New Zealand and then Antarctica.
And Antarctica has been getting hit by these eclipses pretty
hard. And there is an acceleration of
melting of sea ice. So it could be that we are
seeing some sea level rise that that as they measure it, they're
a little concerned about shorelines and things like that.
So that may be what we're hearing about.
I did take a look at November 4th of 2025 and we know that
California is having a special election, but you know, there's
elections every single year and they do happen on the 4th,
Tuesday in November. They can be ballot measures,
local measures in every single state.
That could be governor's races. It can be Senate races, House
races, both at the federal level as well as the state level.
You have local matters. It's a very spicy meatball kind
of day and that's a deep dive that'll happen for 15 the $15.00
an up crowd again. So and, and what do I think is
going to happen this week? I don't know guys, it it, it
doesn't get easier for a while. And part of that is calling
people into action, all right? And action doesn't have to be
pick up a sword or you pick up a pitchfork.
It can mean that you're doubling down in your local community to
make sure that kids have school supplies, to make sure that
families have food that make sure that the garbage is picked
up. It could be working in mutual
aid. It could be showing up to public
meetings. It could be being involved as a
volunteer with an organization. It could be dealing, you know,
like animal shelter. You know, there's, there's so
many things that we can do and not everybody can do the same
thing. Not everybody can donate a lot.
Not everybody has a lot of time. But there are doable jobs.
Smart organizations have a lot of little things they can hand
off to volunteers, whether it's texting, making phone calls,
folding sheets and blankets, organizing material.
They may need somebody to run a newsletter.
You never know. But don't just go in with your
ideas, folks. Make sure you go in and find out
what is the need, What do they need?
You know, how do your skills match up with that?
That that helps make things a better place.
So we all got to show up. We all got to show up.
And in Virgo season, it's a reminder that Virgo is the sign
that rules service. It rules service.
So there's that. Oh, guys, the times we live in,
the times we live in, it's crazy sauce.
I tell you, it's crazy sauce. Yeah.
So I hope you have a great week. Remember, you're so much more
valuable than you know. And the more we understand how
to radically accept ourselves, the more we can enter in like
hearts with other people. And that's what's going to make
things better. I'm Lori Rivers and it is always
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