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It's the Awake Space Astrology 
podcast. 

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I'm Marie Rivers, your host here
to help you with some 

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inspiration to get those 
aspirations out into the world. 

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Can you believe we're in the 
last week of August? 

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That's nuts. 
It's nuts, I tell you. 

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And we head on towards eclipses 
in September. 

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We're going to talk a little bit
about this this week, but I'll 

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really hammer it on next week. 
I want you to understand there's

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a lot of people who talk about 
astrology who are just kind of 

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Bsing. 
There's there's just repeated 

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false information online. 
And I used to call it Tumblr 

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astrology. 
Now it's on the ticky talkie. 

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I even find it in metaphysical 
shops, crystal shops. 

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Help go to Satoka. 
I lived in Satoka right here, 

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and the amount of people who 
just made shit up was insane. 

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And then they get really 
insulted when you'd be like, I 

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don't think that's how that 
works. 

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I'd be like, everybody has 
opinions and I'm like, and the 

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universe doesn't always work 
without your opinion. 

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You can want what you want. 
It doesn't always work that way.

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And with astrology, we do have 
rules. 

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It's a very, very old framework 
with hundreds and hundreds upon 

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hundreds of years of 
observation, correlation, and 

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actual process. 
And just because you want 

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something to be a certain way 
doesn't mean it is. 

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And why am I saying that? 
Because an eclipse is an 

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eclipse, unless it's visible in 
your location. 

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Period. 
I don't care that you can watch 

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it on the Youtubes from NASA. 
I don't care that you can watch 

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videos of it in the past, it has
to be visible in your physical 

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location. 
I don't care if you were born in

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that location and you moved 
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It is only an eclipse if it 
happens where you can watch it 

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with your naked eyeball. 
Period. 

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So stop freaking out, I have 
things to say about it. 

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Oh the Internet has been great 
to expand our access to 

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information. 
It's been shitty because the 

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information isn't always 
correct. 

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So that's why we look for old 
books. 

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And we read really old books. 
Not not 1960s old, like 15 

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hundreds old. 
Things like that doesn't mean 

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they're 100% accurate either. 
But you got to use your 

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discernment and your critical 
thinking. 

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Don't buy into it. 
I don't know why people like to 

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get scared. 
Maybe it's the endorphins after 

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the cortisol rush. 
I don't know, but you guys got 

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to stop freaking yourselves out.
That's just crazy sauce, Crazy 

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sauce item. 
So now that I've had gotten that

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out of my system, how are you? 
Are you doing OK? 

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It is now Monday, August 25th, 
and no, somebody didn't keel 

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over. 
Funny thing happened. 

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I had this video that mentions 
mentions August 24th but of 

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2022, but nobody ever looks down
and looks at the original date 

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on the video. 
I know it's in a little teeny 

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tiny writing but again, I have a
rule if I can read it, you can 

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read it because I got really 
shitty eyeballs. 

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Anyway, people were leaving me. 
Oh we know what that means. 

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Wank wank. 
I'm like this is 3 year old 

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video what is going on? 
And I didn't realize there was 

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that whole Simpsons prediction 
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And I, I was like answering 
these comments going this is a 

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three-year old video. 
This I, I don't know what you're

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referring to vatism. 
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is a patron, let me know. 
And she said it was a trending 

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video when you searched August 
24th. 

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And I was like, oh, OK, OK, now 
I'm getting it. 

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Now I'm getting it. 
Well, if you've ever been hated 

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on by the Internet, you know, if
people attribute something to 

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you that you didn't say, they 
will still do their damnedest to

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cancel you. 
And so I'm sitting there going, 

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oh, great. 
So when nothing happens on the 

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24th, people are going to come 
back and say, but you said, you 

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know, and people don't bother 
to, like, figure out who 

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actually said what. 
They'll just lump every 

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astrologer, every medium, every 
psychic, anybody who calls 

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themselves any of those things 
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And I try to make it really 
clear what my predictions are. 

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My predictions stand on that. 
I won't see dirt naps happening 

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until early next year in 2026. 
But Amy. 

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Oh, so I made a funny kind of 
kind of funny video. 

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But that's why, that's why. 
Oh my God, you guys, I'm on. 

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Seriously, I know it would be 
satisfying and trust me, I'll, 

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I'll throw a party. 
But it, it's, it's not in the 

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cards in this moment. 
We're watching the health crisis

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I predicted. 
Everybody always thinks it's 

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going to be this instantaneous 
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And it's like modern medicine 
doesn't allow for those 

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instantaneous. 
Man, I wish I knew what 

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medications were there because 
then I could apply astrological 

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significance to. 
I could be like, all right, what

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was that? 
OK, we can. 

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We can figure it out. 
I'm not Privy. 

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I'm not Privy to that 
information. 

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So rude. 
Anyway, I'm gonna move my mic 

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this night. 
There we go. 

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And then I don't have to Like, 
that's why I keep looking over. 

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I'm like, I don't know. 
Is my mic right? 

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But anyway, here's where we're 
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Last week of August of 2025 just
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which was Part 1 of A2 parter. 
That happens in the around the 

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21st of September, which is also
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And again, we'll talk about this
morning in September. 

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I remember and an eclipse is not
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where you live. 
And I'll do a whole thing on 

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eclipses. 
I tend to most years where there

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are eclipses. 
They come in pairs. 

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You know, they're not the big 
deal that everybody they're they

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are, but they're not on a 
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So you might be indirectly 
impacted by them, but people, 

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people who make so much, they 
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And it's so frustrating to me 
because it's again, it, it's if 

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you can prove it, it's not an 
opinion. 

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If you can factor it out and 
show your work, it's not an 

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opinion. 
Opinions are not beast. 

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In fact, you can have a fact 
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show the facts, it's hot here. 
It doesn't matter. 

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That's like arguing over pink or
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There's no wrong answer there. 
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something. 
Help me anyway. 

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So I'm on one. 
I'm on one. 

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I tell you my, my excuse is the 
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So if you don't understand what 
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to the astrology, because I know
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who are like, I really like what
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But when you talk astrology, all
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I've got an event August 29th 
where the real medium Maxilda is

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going to be my Guinea pig. 
I mean my student. 

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And it's called How to Make 
Sense of your Astrology Chart so

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you can understand what Laurie's
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It is not a how to read 
astrology charts class. 

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I am going to help you identify 
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answering questions. 
And Matilda's really good at 

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asking questions. 
She really doesn't know a whole 

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lot about astrology except 
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me go on and on about it. 
So she's kind of like the 

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perfect person to do that. 
And so it's one going to be fun.

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All right. 
It's a light hearted rump 

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through the astrology chart. 
If you're a patron of mine at 

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the $15 level or up, you get in 
for free and pretty much it's 

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unlimited tickets because if you
can't get into the Zoom webinar,

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it's capped at like 500. 
It will stream onto YouTube. 

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OK, so there we go and and I'll 
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streaming. 
If if people are and it's a 

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private YouTube, it's not it's 
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OK, so you can ask questions in 
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Alicia is going to be 
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But it it even if you know 
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pretty fun. 
If you don't understand 

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astrology and you want to know 
more, it's 15 bucks. 

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It's 15 bucks. 
It's like 2 hours. 

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It's better than streaming a 
show on Netflix or renting a 

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video from Blockbuster. 
Oh, oh, oh, there we go. 

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So you can, you can sign up for 
it through the link in the show 

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notes. 
That's going to be fun. 

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People keep asking me when it's 
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relatives, you know, better for 
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We're watching massive systemic 
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We would be going through 
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or the other because people have
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And so it gets better. 
When we make it better, it's 

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probably going to get a little 
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improvement. 
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stand up for the right thing. 
Unlikely people, you know, 

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people who used to just get up, 
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something after work, go home, 
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I'm watching people like that 
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communities. 
You know, people who might have 

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been considered a 90 LB weakling
or, you know, these aren't big 

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burly people. 
The world class these, these are

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people who are probably desk 
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had to mind their own business 
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They're taking videos of 
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their neighbors. 
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challenging authority legally 
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They're helping more in in their
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organizations, whether it's 
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the library board or joining the
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school supplies for for school 
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That's very cool. 
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forward in lives. 
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involved in mutual aid. 
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organizing their voices together
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And, and that to me is the thing
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We need to celebrate who's 
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complaining about who's doing 
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And, and first of all, these 
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no, don't do it. 
They really do. 

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We can talk them because they 
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what they really hate is people 
celebrating, people 

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understanding not only their 
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community in the United States, 
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involved. 
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that when people are educated 
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part of the process and you are 
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process. 
So you want to talk about 

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entitlement. 
We don't have a social caste 

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system legally in this country. 
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one, there may be socially 
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it's not codified yet and we are
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It may not always play out that 
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one of us needs to join with 
like hearted people and that's 

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how we make it better. 
We're in for about a five year 

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more, five years more of systems
shake up and disruption before 

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that'll take a minute. 
These things take time. 

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We're not just changing the 
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This is a global evolutionary 
planetary process and we're 

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watching the end of 13000 year 
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beginning of a new one getting 
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It's a 3000 year old cycle. 
Honestly, people back in the 

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Bronze Age could not have 
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They would thought we were like 
aliens or demons or something. 

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They'd be like, why is that flat
picture talking, right? 

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Kind of like when you thought of
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I know JK Rowling's a douche, 
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with the moving pictures right 
in the 90s, other than TV, Can 

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you imagine now we have AI that 
you put a picture of grandma and

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she can give you a hug from a 
picture, you know, so you know, 

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that's, that's crazy sauce. 
So who knows what the evolution 

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is going to be. 
And it is not the worst time to 

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be human on this planet. 
It's not. 

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Go read through history. 
There have been very gnarly 

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times. 
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be human on this planet. 
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there has always been different 
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kinds of climate disasters 
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Climate change is our biggest 
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But we have faced over the last 
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and you are the product of that.
You are a descendant of people 

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who managed to survive in these 
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intense circumstances, 
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landscapes, famines, conflict of
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battling A neighboring village, 
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it's the ability to bounce back 
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And in a minute, in the next 
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James Dobson passing away and 
what I've observed with people 

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talking about their religious 
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And I'm going to talk about my 
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stand Chase Thompson. 
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founders of what's called 
positive discipline. 

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studies. 
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he was no evangelical. 
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all different kinds of groups 
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learn to treat children as human
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What a concept. 
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talked about having been a 
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come from the strong willed 
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I did read that book when my 
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I'll say wait, Stephen Glenn 
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receptive to the the work that I
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really great outlook on that. 
So we'll talk about that. 

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We'll talk about what we see in 
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got more classes coming up in 
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from you about my. 
So I'm going to float some stuff

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to you. 
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next segment and then comment 
about which classes sound most 

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interesting to you. 
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and I'm just trying to decide, 
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a 2 hour class? 
Is it going to be like a a split

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like 6 hour session? 
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We'll see about that. 
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we're doing together. 
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work, but if we are, we're 
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If we are doing the laundry, 
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you believe it's already back to
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If you're one of my astrology 
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have a great day at school. 
If you're not back in school 

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just yet, are you getting ready 
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Are you getting your crayons and
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The new school shoes? 
That's always exciting. 

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If you're shopping for that 
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perfect things on sale. 
I have good mojo for that. 

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You can borrow 1 for. 
Do you want our hot girl Walker 

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hot guy walk if we're driving 
our trucks, My favorite trucker 

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8. 
I have quite a few long distance

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delivery people and truckers. 
Listen, thank you. 

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I feel honored. 
If I could see, I would have 

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been a truck driver. 
I would have. 

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I just can't see, so I don't get
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But I would be the best coast to
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being able to see. 
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I just wouldn't want. 
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in front of a truck, so that 
would not be good. 

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But whatever we're doing, let's 
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Get your tea, get your coffee, 
get your water, get your matcha,

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get your hot cocoa. 
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still cold southern hemisphere, 
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fingers crossed. 
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and get going. 
I'll talk about September and 

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what's in the headlines again is
back in the peak rounds, so I'll

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go a little bit more in depth 
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Anyway, let's get going. 
So James Dobson died May may he 

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dance with the Kissinger in iron
shoes in hell. 

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So back in the 2000s, back in 
the 2000s, what sorrow was like 

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7 Yusuf was like? 
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had a mind of her own, and she 
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I didn't. 
I didn't model that behavior. 

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She came out knowing her own 
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She was picking her own clothes 
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She drew her first happy days at
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Yes, talent does not fall far 
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And Yousef was busy. 
It was more like Curious George 

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wasn't ever naughty. 
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He's got 5 personal placements 
in Gemini. 

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His Mercury and his Mars are 
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And having been raised like many
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X compatriots now, I wasn't a 
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family. 
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functional, but I had a large 
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generations in that. 
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great grandma. 
I had an interesting family and 

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I was very on one hand I did 
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the other there were people who 
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me valuable and loved me. 
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and the bad. 
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What was bad was the stuff of 
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it wasn't all bad and it 
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So, and when I say it was equal 
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getting, I wasn't left on my own
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I had people who felt I 
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I had a very strong 
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it your locus of control. 
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locus of control. 
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strong, you know, because we do,
we need to be interdependent. 

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It isn't about being codependent
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It's about being interdependent,
right? 

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And it's a lifelong process. 
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PHDI had been working like many 
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We either chose to be very 
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repeated the mistakes of their 
family, right? 

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And so I had read all these 
parenting books. 

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I was disgusted by quite a few 
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dehumanizing. 
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individual human beings from the
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because, you know, my daughter 
would tickle me like in the 

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middle of the night. 
I knew she had a sense of humor 

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and oh, she does. 
She's funny. 

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And, and my son used my bladder 
as a stress ball and he kicked 

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in a different way that I was 
like, So they're very different 

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people. 
I knew that before I got the 

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look in their eyes. 
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parenting books. 
And not all of them were by 

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Dobson, but there was a whole 
lot of manipulation, 

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objectification. 
And it wasn't really about 

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teaching children. 
It was about putting them in 

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boxes and making sure they did 
your bidding, as if they were 

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possessions instead of these 
beautiful human beings that you 

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have the honor of guiding 
through life. 

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And yes, you are their boss for 
a little bit because they're 

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still developing their brains, 
right? 

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It's your job to keep them 
alive. 

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Sometimes that's easier said 
than done, especially if you 

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have a climber. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
The Gemini could climb. 

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But anyway, never dropped in, 
never dropped him. 

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But he could be like up 15 feet 
across a room, a big room and 

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I'd hear Mama catch the blind 
girl can catch the toddler. 

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OK I hope it doesn't ever happen
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But never dropped him. 
So I read all these books and I 

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learned some things, but it just
sounded like my parents period 

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in your face, which I wouldn't 
always recommend when my kids 

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bring it. 
Before everybody done their 

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work, it was all about making 
kids do things. 

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It had nothing to do with brain 
development and nothing to do 

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with child development. 
And I'm not talking about the 

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more progressive stuff. 
I'm talking about what was 

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commercial at the time, Right. 
I had read Steiner. 

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I had read and I love Steiner's 
work. 

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I disagree on the focus on on 
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outdated and it's very not with 
actual facts, right? 

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So, and I, I read through 
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that. 
I like that hands on learning 

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experience. 
But when it came to redirecting 

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kids, when it came to what do 
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blinds because they're Maddie, 
You know, what do you do when 

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they feed the VCR because it 
looks hungry? 

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What do you do when they only 
sleep 3 to 4 hours of night of a

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night when they're four and five
years old? 

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You know, how do you manage that
when you're exhausted? 

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And that's what I was looking 
for. 

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I really didn't like most of the
parenting books. 

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I did read The Strong Willed 
Child because of my daughter. 

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And I didn't really know who 
James Dobson was. 

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You got to remember I wasn't 
ever evangelical. 

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I was raised Protestant, but I 
had embraced Islam. 

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I lived in the Middle East for 
10 years. 

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I didn't know who these people 
were. 

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So back in the States and I was 
reading through it and there was

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a few things that weren't 
horrendous in there. 

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And one thing had to do with 
socks and, you know, not making 

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your kid wear seams socks if 
they upset them. 

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But there was a lot of control 
and punishment. 

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And I didn't like that. 
I didn't like people telling me 

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how I should raise my kids. 
I knew my kids inside them, not 

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only because I'm a very 
observant person and I was 

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delighted in my children. 
They were the coolest things I'd

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ever seen. 
They were my little science 

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experiments. 
They were like, not toys. 

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And I don't mean that in 
objectification ways. 

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It's just everything they did, 
even when they were naughty. 

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Not that I didn't lose my 
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for long, because they were so 
damn funny, right? 

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And I loved to play with them. 
It was part of my own inner 

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child healing because I wasn't 
good at that and I didn't know I

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was neurodivergent and so I 
could be silly and goofy and 

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because my brain had finally 
caught up to being able to do 

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those things. 
So I had so much fun. 

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I bought toys because I liked 
playing with them and if my kids

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didn't, fine, I'd do it. 
I don't still don't understand 

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why they didn't like a slinky 
ink. 

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They were not into the slinky 
ink. 

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I thought that was rude 'cause 
I'm like, I can play with the 

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slinky dink for hours. 
I still care. 

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But anyway, so I was really 
frustrated with this process and

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and I'm bringing this up because
I want some of you who were 

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raised with these things to 
understand not everybody is into

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it. 
And that there were experts at 

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the time. 
They were saying the opposite of

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what James Dobson was saying 
because you can look up their 

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work now again, H Steven Glenn's
book and he worked with somebody

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named Jane Nelson, but it was 
his research. 

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Everything was based off it. 
And there's a book called 

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Raising self reliant children in
a self indulgent that I highly 

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suggest the language is going to
be dated because it was written 

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in the 80s. 
But as somebody who, from the 

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minute my kids were born, I 
vowed we took up, I vowed that 

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everything within my power would
be done to keep them safe, that 

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they would be as well adjusted 
as possible, and that everything

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would have to come through me 
before I heard them. 

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And I did. 
I found little tiny babies 

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looked straight in their eyes 
and and promised them. 

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And of course, did I protect 
them from everything in the 

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world? 
Of course not. 

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I couldn't protect them from 
racism. 

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I couldn't. 
I never thought they'd live in 

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the United States. 
But even if we had lived in 

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Bahrain while they grew up, they
would have been hammered for 

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being part American. 
They would have because that's 

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what human beings do. 
But I swear I'd keep him safe 

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from physical harm, But I did. 
I did psychological harm mostly.

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I'll pay for the therapy and 
have done so when I went to the 

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Stanwood Family Resource Center 
and I offered to volunteer to 

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00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,120
read to the ECAP preschool kids 
because I wanted my son to have 

453
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,520
a little socialization, but I 
didn't feel like he was ready to

454
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,200
go into daycare or school. 
We weren't that far out of a 

455
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,240
traumatizing event and he wasn't
ready to be shoved away from me,

456
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,200
right? 
So both kids were pretty scared 

457
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640
to be away from me. 
And my daughter was a little bit

458
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,600
older and she had been used to 
going to school, so we went with

459
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,480
the normal routine, but my 
youngest had not. 

460
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640
So I was like, this is a good 
way to introduce social 

461
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,320
activities without having to 
deal with the very hard weaning.

462
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,600
And in the 90s and early 2000s, 
most people thought was, well, 

463
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480
just make him do it, he'll get 
over it. 

464
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960
And I was like, probably won't 
get over it. 

465
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880
We don't get over things like 
that. 

466
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360
You have to gently expand the 
experiences. 

467
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,920
So I ended up being a volunteer 
there and they asked every 

468
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,720
single volunteer to take a 
course called Developing Capable

469
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Young people. 
It's also called Developing 

470
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Capable people. 
He had to add the young so they 

471
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880
could get grant money for 
parenting courses because 

472
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,160
grantors can be a little obtuse.
I was a little annoyed that I 

473
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,840
had to take the so-called 
parenting class, you know, 

474
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,120
because I'd read so many 
parenting books and, and you 

475
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,720
have to remember, I was an 
astrologer. 

476
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,000
I constantly read my kids 
charts. 

477
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,280
I understood who they were. 
I, I could see what their 

478
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,160
challenges might be. 
I could see what kind of support

479
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,680
they needed. 
I could understand what I needed

480
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,480
to do for me to be a better 
mother to them. 

481
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,400
And so I was a kind of ahead of 
the game in understanding 

482
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,280
children, plus my love of all 
things human consciousness. 

483
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,240
I had studied, you know, brain 
development, human development, 

484
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840
etcetera, etcetera. 
So I was annoyed I have to take 

485
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440
this dumb parenting class 
because that's how they sold it.

486
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920
They sold it as a parenting 
course and it's a lot more than 

487
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,800
that. 
But by session three, my hand 

488
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,520
was up and I was like, how do I 
get certified? 

489
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,400
How do I get certified in this? 
How do I get that training? 

490
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,920
This can save the world. 
These aren't essential skills 

491
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,200
we're building. 
And they chuckled. 

492
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,880
They go well, we have a training
in October. 

493
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:48,880
That was 2001 and I got to work 
with H Stephen Glenn and he did 

494
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,760
something so healing for me 
because in 1985 I was told by 

495
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,200
world renowned psychologists I I
would probably be lucky if I 

496
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440
made it the thirty that I'd 
suffered such severe trauma. 

497
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,040
And the juxtaposition of where 
it was good, it was out of this 

498
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,360
world and where it was bad. 
It was the stuff of nightmares 

499
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,800
made that healing almost 
impossible. 

500
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,080
And I said, well, look, you guys
work with kids that do a lot of 

501
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,640
drugs, run away, don't do well 
in school. 

502
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,920
I none of that is me now. 
They didn't talk about 

503
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,920
overtiever syndrome back then. 
And I'm like, why? 

504
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,240
If you're saying I'm going to 
be, I'm not those things. 

505
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Now, how will that be true when 
I'm older if I'm already 

506
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,800
thinking about consequences now 
at 15, why would it go out the 

507
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,920
window when I'm older? 
And they just said, well, you're

508
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,880
an enigma. 
We don't know why you are the 

509
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,040
way you are. 
Well, when you're 15 with a good

510
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,840
vocabulary, I knew exactly what 
an enigma meant. 

511
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,720
And I looked at them and said, 
are you saying I'm a freak? 

512
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040
And they were like, well, and 
I'm like, no, no, you just 

513
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,480
called me a freak of nature. 
That's what Enigma means. 

514
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,800
I can't be a freak. 
I won't be a freak. 

515
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,360
And I'm like, well, you're 
special. 

516
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,000
And that was a triggering word 
for me because that was part of 

517
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,600
my trauma. 
I was like, no, no, no, I'm not 

518
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:28,800
special. 
I'm human and, and I bring that 

519
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,159
story up because I was very 
triggered by psychologists 

520
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,280
because of that early 
experience. 

521
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,480
And each Stephen Glenn was 
wonderful and I, I took a shine 

522
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,199
to him, but I was still, you 
know, think the cautious wild 

523
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,440
animal. 
But he felt safe. 

524
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,000
But was he safe? 
He was a man, but he was kind 

525
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,679
and he showed up for people. 
He really knew how to listen and

526
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,720
he asked us to think of people 
who showed up for us in life, 

527
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,600
teachers, neighbors, you know, 
people outside your family unit 

528
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:11,680
even you know so and just even 
one person that one time said, 

529
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,280
wow, you're you're pretty cool 
kid or thanked you for opening a

530
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680
door or saw you as a human 
being. 

531
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:28,840
And as I started counting, so 
many teachers, so many 

532
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:35,360
strangers, so many right time, 
right place, people had done 

533
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,320
enough to offset the stuff of 
nightmares. 

534
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:45,760
And I was a mess. 
I sobbed and I sobbed and I 

535
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,840
sobbed and I couldn't move. 
I was waiting for everybody to 

536
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,680
leave. 
It was the end of the day's 

537
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600
training and everybody was 
leaving this little auditorium, 

538
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,040
and I had my head down and my 
hair has always been about this 

539
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,560
length. 
Sometimes it's a little longer. 

540
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,280
And I had my hair over my face 
and I was trying to control the 

541
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:17,080
racking socks because I realized
that I wasn't a freak. 

542
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:26,640
He had gifted me with empirical 
data to show why I'd made it 

543
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,880
past thirty. 
I was 32. 

544
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,960
I'd made it past 30. 
A lot of my friends hadn't. 

545
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,960
I lost a lot of friends to 
suicide. 

546
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,160
I lost friends to drugs and 
alcohol. 

547
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,920
I lost my beloved. 
I lost the father of my children

548
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:52,960
to health conditions that went 
undiagnosed and and self 

549
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,920
medication. 
It was rough and I kept 

550
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,440
wondering why. 
Why me? 

551
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Why am I still here? 
Stephen Glenn sat next to me. 

552
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120
I hadn't noticed right away 
because I was busy focusing on 

553
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,760
like trying to look through my 
hair to see if people had left. 

554
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:19,600
So I can finally let out a whale
that was built in my chest sat 

555
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,680
very quietly and I finally 
noticed him. 

556
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:31,800
He said, what's going on? 
And out came the whale and I 

557
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
couldn't speak firmly. 
I was healing. 

558
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,960
And I said they said I was an 
enigma and you just proved I was

559
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,800
normal and were designed to 
heal. 

560
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,080
Makes me cry because that was a 
really big burden to imagine 

561
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,400
carrying that half your life. 
I look back at that young lady 

562
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,320
who was the same age as my 
daughter. 

563
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Oh, I'm getting all emotional. 
There's a cancer. 

564
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:14,880
And that man, with his research 
done the year I was born that 

565
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,080
the psychologist had could have 
had access to because it was 

566
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:25,360
done for the US government. 
And he sat there and he 

567
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,560
listened. 
He said, you're not afraid. 

568
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,920
So I just figured that out. 
I always said human beings could

569
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,240
heal. 
And he was absolutely thinking 

570
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400
because what they did was 
unconscionable. 

571
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,880
My God, what a burden to put on 
your shoulders. 

572
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:48,360
And we just talked for maybe an 
hour, just the two of us even 

573
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,000
reached out his hand, didn't 
offer to grab my just put it out

574
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,840
if I wanted to put it in. 
He and I held hands as we talked

575
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,920
through it. 
And I said I have studied 

576
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,080
everything I can. 
And you just handed me the Holy 

577
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Grail because I'll be damned if 
my kids. 

578
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,720
He became my mentor, not just 
somebody who trained me in his 

579
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:23,520
system, but somebody who 
encouraged me and said take this

580
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920
and run with it and I 
incorporate it into the 

581
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,440
astrology I do. 
He did not like James Johnson. 

582
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:39,200
He didn't believe in punishing 
and control the and he started 

583
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,560
almost every class with 
discipline means to teach 

584
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:52,480
punishment only teaches people 
to avoid pain and it is at the 

585
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:59,360
root of addiction. 
It is at the root of the social 

586
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,240
behaviors that 'cause people to 
be incarcerated. 

587
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,440
He had been trying to stop the 
pull to prison pipeline his that

588
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,520
is why his research got quashed.
You can look him up. 

589
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,480
H Stephen Glenn, PhD. 
Man who let me know wasn't a 

590
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,040
freak. 
I mean, I knew. 

591
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Well, kind of didn't know 
because I've always been weird. 

592
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,640
I understand you've been through
trauma. 

593
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160
I've lived it. 
I've lived trauma. 

594
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:33,960
And I think religious trauma is 
unconscionable because for me, 

595
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,280
being able to lean into belief 
when I was a very small child 

596
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:43,760
was was life saving. 
And as I grew and I began to 

597
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,880
understand comparative 
religions, when I embraced 

598
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,840
Islam, I understood things in a 
different level because I had 

599
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,160
not been so damaged in early 
childhood unbelief. 

600
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,520
It makes it hard when things are
tough because learning how to 

601
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,440
lean into hope and possibility 
and understanding your value. 

602
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:20,040
If you've been told you are a 
Sinner, if you've been told that

603
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,240
you are unlovable, if you've 
been told you're worth nothing, 

604
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,080
if you've been objectified, 
contained, controlled, well, no 

605
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,400
wonder if you don't want to 
develop a faith or have trust, 

606
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,800
because that was the same as if 
somebody cut, cut off a leg, 

607
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,960
except it can grow back. 
So think of your consciousness 

608
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560
more like an octopus. 
You might have lost the leg, but

609
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:56,080
you can grow it back. 
It hurts me to think that people

610
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:02,200
have been treated so poorly and 
objectified, and that's why I do

611
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,560
what I do. 
I'm always here to encourage, 

612
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,440
and I may not be the most 
popular podcaster because of it,

613
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,720
because I know it's distraction 
that sells. 

614
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,680
I know it's the sensational that
sells. 

615
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:27,280
I know telling stories about 
healing can be boring, and I 

616
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,760
know I don't have a wee wee. 
So there's that one. 

617
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,640
What do you mean a wee wee, 
Laurie? 

618
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Well, you know, being a woman 
means that I will always have 

619
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,160
people challenging that and 
saying, well, a man said this. 

620
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:48,080
So fighting the misogyny, the 
patriarchy and the training that

621
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,120
if you're going to be on camera,
you damn well better be, you 

622
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:58,080
know, a certain look. 
So I will probably always have a

623
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,480
decent sized but I probably 
won't become the most popular. 

624
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:10,160
Luckily being popular has never 
been on my agenda nor is being 

625
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,800
well liked. 
Not your little friend. 

626
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:21,840
No kidding. 
If you were traumatized, I'm so 

627
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,480
sorry. 
If you were traumatized through 

628
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,360
the parenting that was pushed 
out in the 90s and 2000s, there 

629
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,000
wasn't a lot out there that was 
different than Dobson. 

630
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,800
H Stephen Glenn was one of the 
few. 

631
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,080
H Stephen Glenn was one of the 
few. 

632
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,360
Him and Jane Nelson, and she was
still more controlling, but they

633
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,280
made kind of a publishing deal 
together. 

634
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:51,480
But his work was about 
relevance, and it is embedded in

635
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,560
the mystery school curriculum. 
Mystery school was just a tear. 

636
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,280
The Amy process that I developed
to help people self actually 

637
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,720
self realize, build their self 
understanding, learn how to 

638
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,800
problem solve through day-to-day
life, set and make plans and 

639
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,480
execute. 
And I've used it in my 

640
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,760
astrology. 
You know, that's why I want to 

641
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,640
do it. 
How to read your kids astrology 

642
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,240
chart, how to call it something 
else, but just a process in 

643
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,440
understanding the astrology of 
the child. 

644
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:30,400
And so and that might be a 
closer astrology of the child to

645
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680
help you understand things more 
because there's a lot of 

646
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,080
bullshit out online that scares 
parents that make you think 

647
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,400
you're going to be a terrible 
parent. 

648
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,640
You're already scared anyway 
because the ones that don't care

649
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:49,000
are looking at that stuff. 
And I'd like to to help with 

650
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:57,480
that, but it's always encoded in
my work because it forever 

651
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:06,600
changed me or ever changed me. 
So no, I wasn't afraid. 

652
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,400
So let me know which do you 
like? 

653
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,480
How do you know? 
I think the astrology of the 

654
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,840
top. 
I don't think I'm going to ask 

655
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,960
the question. 
What do you think of the title 

656
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,360
the Astrology of the Child? 
Because that's something I'll 

657
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,080
teach in September. 
Like I just don't have a title 

658
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,480
for it yet. 
I know what I'm going to teach. 

659
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,520
So let me know in the comments. 
Let's do some patron shout outs 

660
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,480
and then we'll talk about 
September and I'll give you a 

661
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,160
heads up on what you can expect 
since the Saturn is going to be 

662
00:45:38,160 --> 00:46:02,920
moving back into Pisces. 
This podcast is 100% listener 

663
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,360
supported and that is something 
I'm super proud of. 

664
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,240
These are the newest patrons to 
the Awake Space Patreon. 

665
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,840
That's how you can support this 
podcasting ad free sponsorship 

666
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:22,000
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Patrons get a lot of perks. 

667
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,600
If you've wondered why, why 
should I join the Patreon? 

668
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,280
If you want to learn more about 
astrology, I've got some real 

669
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,320
treats coming up. 
I'm going to be in the studio 

670
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,440
all night recording since my 
sleep cycle is off Yay, thanks 

671
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,280
Virgo new moon. 
But you can learn about 

672
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,440
astrology. 
There are ebooks, there are 

673
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,360
videos. 
I do live streams. 

674
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,800
I do a lot of live streams in 
there, even though Patreon 

675
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,200
changed it up, so I can't just 
go live in the chats. 

676
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,960
I have to do like official and 
that's OK. 

677
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,160
It's not the same, but I think 
we broke the server a couple of 

678
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,240
times while we were beta testing
it so. 

679
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,120
But it's a great community as 
well. 

680
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,720
People have been finding each 
other in their locations. 

681
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,800
People make friends and we come 
together. 

682
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,240
We talk about gardening, we talk
about crafting, we talk about 

683
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,720
life in general, parenting and 
caretaking, and we talked about 

684
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,520
our jobs. 
And when life gets tough, 

685
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,520
there's the venting chamber. 
But it's it's a great group and 

686
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
the pretty drama free. 
To be honest, I'm allergic to 

687
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,080
drama. 
So I like to create community 

688
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,040
spaces where everybody has a 
voice, everybody can be seen and

689
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,480
everybody gets to connect. 
And that's what we need in these

690
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,560
crazy times. 
So without further ado, let's 

691
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,960
give a shout out to our newest 
patrons. 

692
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,560
It's always exciting. 
And it's it's a list that lasts 

693
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,240
for like a month, you know, so 
you'll hear your name repeated 

694
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,520
if you joined. 
Let me find it. 

695
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,080
Get to where I need to go. 
Reading glasses on. 

696
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,960
There we go. 
All right. 

697
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Our newest members are Nikki, 
Emily, Stabby, Unicorn, Amber 

698
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:27,160
Mayor Eliza 728, Paige, Jen 
Ganawan, Janesha, Sofa King, 

699
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:37,240
Lindsay, Flapper Beaver Flappy 
Beaver Lauren Brooke D Elta 310,

700
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Andrea Divine, Sammy Pre Lisa 
Norman, Michelle Chilean 

701
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:53,240
Champagne, Becky Hollow Grave 
Cosmetics Nathan, Mona, Nadia, 

702
00:48:53,520 --> 00:49:02,680
Carly, WP Jessica, Lisa, Megan, 
Laurie, Brianna Beckham, Megan, 

703
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,760
Claudius, Sarah, Amelia, or I 
believe it's Amelia. 

704
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Let me know if I pronounce your 
name. 

705
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,480
Letty. 
Alma, Amelia, TJ Alyssa, Jackie,

706
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Sarah, Mia. 
Whoa. 

707
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,640
It's so Jacqueline, Chandler and
Kirk. 

708
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:29,600
Kristen, Gemma Nova, Fern, Sandy
Mae Lynn Sean Misha, Marissa 

709
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:37,960
Amanda Sarah Jessica, Ray Hazel 
T Brandy Courtney, Becky, Amy, 

710
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:49,120
JJ, JC Uncle Kate, SM Janelle or
SCM Janelle, Luna Blue Judy, 

711
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,560
Renee Robin Sam Haley, Camillo 
or Camillo. 

712
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,920
Stephanie Jillian Denise James 
Billy Paige Spiritual 

713
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Enlightening Candace Teresa Maz 
Jess Denise Megan Gabriela 

714
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:17,720
Ashley Stephanie Giovanna Free 
Colleen Giggles Jeanette Chimes 

715
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:21,440
in. 
Micah Mellie Christine Christy 

716
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:31,160
Lily Sue Jenny Lil Liz CD Karina
Cheryl Janelle Karen Teresa 

717
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:38,800
Jacqueline Robin Katie Abril 
Janice Katie Kareem Bee's Knees 

718
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Christine Anna Marie Brianna 
Jonna Melissa Amanda Carolina 

719
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Jamie M Ryan Sarah Debbie Rachel
Bailey Sonia Summer Shania or 

720
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:03,760
Shanya Jean Carolyn Courtney 
Dana Christy Jen Bridget G 

721
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:11,360
Shannon Audrey Spooky Latte 
Elizabeth Beam Susie Brittany 

722
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Sarah Jenny Grandy Zoe Katrina 
Laura Mary Bethany Christopher 

723
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,320
Jessica Amanda Hillary Just US 
3. 

724
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Cynthia, Melody Beth. 
Hannah or Hannah Ryan gab for 

725
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:39,000
Michelle Magnifico. 
Serena, Athena Alicia The Cynic.

726
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:47,960
Nina, Aloma, Alicia, Caitlin, 
Keely and Jacqueline. 

727
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,760
Welcome, welcome, welcome. 
Hey, I've got a deal going on. 

728
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,080
I'll talk about it in the next 
segment. 

729
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,440
I don't know how many people 
listen to this all the way 

730
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,360
through, so I'll talk about the 
deal. 

731
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,720
If you sign up for an annual 
subscription, you've got some 

732
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:10,120
special savings coming up in 
September or actually right now 

733
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,800
it's on right now through 
September, from August 24th 

734
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,520
through September 24th, there's 
a special savings going on if 

735
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,760
you buy with an annual 
subscription. 

736
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,760
If you're overseas, that's 
pretty good deal since the 

737
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,720
dollar tanked. 
So you're probably going to get 

738
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:28,720
a better, better subscription 
deal if you're overseas. 

739
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,880
If you're in the UK, Ireland, I 
know we have quite a few 

740
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,880
listeners there. 
We have quite a few listeners in

741
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,040
Eastern Europe. 
So take advantage of the 

742
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,920
exchange rate while you can and 
get that special annual 

743
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,240
subscription. 
It's available for all of the 

744
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,800
tiers. 
All right, let's talk about 

745
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,800
September and what we can 
expect. 

746
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,520
All right, we're going to talk 
about what's what's coming up in

747
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,800
September. 
I'm going to give you a little 

748
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,520
preview. 
I'm going to do a little deeper 

749
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,160
dive, of course, for patrons. 
And that's where what's in the 

750
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:14,040
headlines is just because I can 
be a little more frank and talk 

751
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,200
about things a little 
differently behind behind the 

752
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,560
safety of the Awake Space 
Patreon. 

753
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,920
Again, if you sign up for an 
annual subscription now through 

754
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:31,200
September 24th, you save 25% on 
an annual subscription. 

755
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,960
If you're overseas, that's a 
hell of a deal since the dollar 

756
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,120
tanked just before I have to 
travel. 

757
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:45,280
Boy do I know that story. 1987 
I'd saved up a lot of money 

758
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,760
working. 
I mean, I took every ounce of 

759
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,480
overtime I could get it because 
I was taking a one way ticket to

760
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,840
Europe and I was going to study 
in the UK and the dollar tanked 

761
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,760
and it didn't just tank a little
bit, it tanked a lot and all of 

762
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,600
a sudden everything I'd worked 
for was essentially cut in half 

763
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,000
and I did it anyway. 
It would be 18 again. 

764
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,680
It wasn't a ton of money anyway.
Seemed like a lot because I was 

765
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,760
18. 
But yeah, I survived. 

766
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,280
I'm not going to lie. 
When I went to Europe last year 

767
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,880
with my daughter, I went to the 
UK and then we did a little 

768
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,640
travelling and went to the 
Middle East and where she was 

769
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:32,520
born in Burning. 
The first like couple days I was

770
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,480
in London, every time we'd go to
dinner, I'd be like kind of 

771
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,880
holding my breath. 
And I realized I was 30 years 

772
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,360
transported back in time to if I
ate out at a restaurant, I 

773
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,920
probably didn't have any money 
left, you know? 

774
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,320
And I was like, every time we'd 
finish dinner, I'm like, oh, I 

775
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,880
still have money. 
You know, it's so funny how we 

776
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,840
time travel in real life. 
And it took me a minute to go. 

777
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,280
You're grown up now. 
You're not 18 and a starving 

778
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,160
student. 
So it was really fun to be able 

779
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,040
to do a go go do a bunch of 
stuff I couldn't do because I 

780
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:12,960
was broke back in the 80s and 
into 1990 before I got my first 

781
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,680
big girl to. 
But anyway, let's take a look at

782
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:24,000
September and I'm going to pull 
up my handy dandy slides from 

783
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,280
the 2025 year ahead. 
And if you're a PEA training, 

784
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,360
you get access to the 2025 year 
ahead. 

785
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,760
I always release the recording 
about mid year as a perk to 

786
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,400
patrons. 
So the benefit of going to the 

787
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,320
live event is you get the Q&A. 
So the next one's coming up in 

788
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:51,160
December, but Matilda and I, 
October 11th, we're going to do 

789
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,000
our joint event on what we see 
for 2026 that's a little 

790
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,320
different. 
And get ready, you're going to 

791
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,560
see some pretty cool videos. 
We've got some people going 

792
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,280
through the June event we did 
where we covered the end of 2025

793
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,480
and they've already found 200 
predictions that they can be 

794
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,240
verified and they've made some 
videos for us. 

795
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:15,840
So you'll be seeing that soon. 
What's coming up in September? 

796
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,960
So according to my handy dandy 
slides, September starts off 

797
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,440
with a pause. 
It wasn't that nice. 

798
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,360
It's not really starting off 
with a bang. 

799
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,840
It starts with a pause. 
Partly because Saturn is 

800
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,880
retrograding back into Pisces. 
So the energy is going to change

801
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:41,080
from the sharp, direct, very 
fiery form of authoritarianism. 

802
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,480
We're going back into that murky
territory. 

803
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:52,040
But it's it's a little swampy, 
but it's also a little less high

804
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,680
energy. 
It's going to be surreal. 

805
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:00,520
So, but we'll also see 
structures start to unravel or 

806
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,000
dissolve. 
Doesn't mean just the bad guys, 

807
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,040
it means the good guys too. 
So we're going to see things are

808
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,720
going to get weird, but there's 
a little bit of a pause. 

809
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,200
All right? 
I do think the weather is going 

810
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,080
to snap. 
The more I've looked at this, 

811
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,520
the more I think we're going to 
go from those extreme highs into

812
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,280
cooler weather. 
Some places are already starting

813
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,080
to see things pull down. 
But I think the West, you know, 

814
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,480
the West of the United States 
will probably see a cooling 

815
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,000
trend. 
I think it's going to be a Wet, 

816
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,560
Wet winter globally, I believe. 
So I don't know, that's not 

817
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,000
really helping. 
So I'll sit back so I can read 

818
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,520
because my computer's over 
there, but and I'm wearing my 

819
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,440
contacts. 
So the further away it is kind 

820
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,040
of the better. 
So we could see a little pause, 

821
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,560
a ceasefire, a temporary truce 
or an issue with ocean currents 

822
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,840
slowing. 
Looking at the Atlantic for that

823
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,080
one, we could also see a storm 
cycling and not moving forward 

824
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,440
nor gaining in speed. 
So if we have a storm system hit

825
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,400
like the East Coast or the 
southeast, it might just stay 

826
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,600
over cycling. 
It may not be a hurricane per 

827
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:21,600
SE, but it could be a tropical 
front, it could just be a big 

828
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,720
storm and it just may sit there 
for a bit. 

829
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,280
That's usually where flooding 
happens. 

830
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,040
So keep your eye on the weather.
First week of September 

831
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,640
especially the pause continues 
though there will be extreme 

832
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,960
weather events, storm fronts. 
And sorry for scowling I'm I'm 

833
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:46,840
trying to read and potential 
issues with viruses or illnesses

834
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,800
as there has been throughout 
2025. 

835
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,960
Just because they're not talking
about it doesn't mean it isn't 

836
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,560
happening. 
I really expect a bad flu year, 

837
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,080
COVID to spike and we could see 
a couple of other viruses up on 

838
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,400
deck. 
So wash your hands, wash your 

839
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,960
hands, wash your hands. 
OK wash your hands, wear masks. 

840
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,000
It's not a popularity contest, 
OK, just if you, especially if 

841
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,880
you have to be out and you're 
also needing to protect 

842
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,120
yourself, mask up, especially if
you're on an airplane. 

843
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:25,240
Because, you know, even even 
before the pandemic, back in the

844
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:31,800
80s and 90s, I got the sickest 
when I would travel on airplanes

845
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,640
because people get on their 
sick. 

846
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,960
You're in that controlled space,
the air is playing, It's not 

847
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,080
filtering enough. 
I don't care what they say. 

848
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,440
I got the worst bronchitis, the 
worst upper respiratory 

849
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,640
illnesses on flights. 
If you wear a mask, you diminish

850
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,720
the potential for you getting 
sick or making other people 

851
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,160
sick. 
So if you're hacking up a lung, 

852
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,560
please wear a mask. 
I do not want to sit next to 

853
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,240
somebody hacking up a lung that 
is unmasked. 

854
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,920
That's rude. 
OK, wear a mask. 

855
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,240
So there's international effort 
to create or generate some new 

856
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,480
kind of protocol. 
Now, this could do with Ukraine.

857
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,560
Notice that was a very historic 
meeting when the European 

858
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,840
leaders showed up with with 
Zelensky. 

859
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,880
And so there may be some 
protocol being developed or a 

860
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,680
way to answer that. 
There is an assessment of damage

861
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,240
or or addressing infrastructure 
issues. 

862
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,680
This could be because of 
weather, this could be because 

863
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,480
of climate change. 
It could also be because of 

864
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,600
conflicts. 
There's a tenemented tentative 

865
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,640
agreement under negotiation. 
So this could again be the 

866
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Russia, Ukraine. 
I don't really think it's 

867
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,240
totally to do with Israel, 
'cause I think Israel's going to

868
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:57,120
keep doing what they want to do.
They've been very unwilling to 

869
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,800
to listen to international 
organizations or the global 

870
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,640
community. 
This could have to do with NATO,

871
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,920
the EU, bricks, international 
courts, G7, 0AU, GCC. 

872
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,040
These could be trade agreements 
as well. 

873
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:18,480
All organizations are getting 
ready for something on the 

874
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,760
horizon. 
So there's some kind of event 

875
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,840
coming that these organizations 
are trying to work on now. 

876
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:31,600
This could actually be economic.
This could be looking at 

877
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,080
potential conflicts. 
This could be looking at climate

878
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,080
change. 
There's some things people are 

879
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:43,760
getting ready for and we may 
hear about it in September all 

880
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,240
let's see. 
It could be weather, it could be

881
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:53,400
sea level rise. 
We could see natural events are 

882
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,600
causing this pause in 
aggression. 

883
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,400
So there could be something that
happens that forces 

884
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,000
negotiations. 
So we'll see about that. 

885
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:12,320
And then and then we wind up 
around September 18th, there's a

886
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,480
some kind of significant storm 
that could happen. 

887
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,560
This could be a tropical storm, 
a hurricane or a typhoon. 

888
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,840
There could be some incredible 
stories of survival, community 

889
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,240
and people coming together with 
that. 

890
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,600
The month ends with unseasonable
weather globally, meaning the 

891
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,480
temperatures should drop pretty 
significantly and negotiations 

892
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,680
between nations fall apart 
around the 22nd. 

893
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,840
So at the beginning of the 
month, we get a little bit of, 

894
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,520
oh, they're going to work on it.
And by the 22nd, it's like this 

895
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,320
could be something to do with 
Israel, Iran, Lebanon and or 

896
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,400
Jordan. 
And we could see an issue with 

897
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840
the leadership in Jordan. 
And I'll talk about that more in

898
01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,360
the Patron only. 
But yeah, so just interesting 

899
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,600
things going on, getting this 
set up for October. 

900
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:09,600
We do have eclipse seasoning in 
September and I'll talk about 

901
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,680
that more next week. 
I wouldn't worry too much about 

902
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,680
these on a personal level. 
The partial solar eclipse is 

903
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,280
visible in New Zealand, a strip 
of Australia, so the part of 

904
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,480
Australia closest to New Zealand
and then Antarctica. 

905
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,480
And Antarctica has been getting 
hit by these eclipses pretty 

906
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,800
hard. 
And there is an acceleration of 

907
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,960
melting of sea ice. 
So it could be that we are 

908
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:40,760
seeing some sea level rise that 
that as they measure it, they're

909
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,760
a little concerned about 
shorelines and things like that.

910
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,080
So that may be what we're 
hearing about. 

911
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:55,320
I did take a look at November 
4th of 2025 and we know that 

912
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,800
California is having a special 
election, but you know, there's 

913
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,680
elections every single year and 
they do happen on the 4th, 

914
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,120
Tuesday in November. 
They can be ballot measures, 

915
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,440
local measures in every single 
state. 

916
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,840
That could be governor's races. 
It can be Senate races, House 

917
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,680
races, both at the federal level
as well as the state level. 

918
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,560
You have local matters. 
It's a very spicy meatball kind 

919
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,560
of day and that's a deep dive 
that'll happen for 15 the $15.00

920
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:30,320
an up crowd again. 
So and, and what do I think is 

921
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:35,880
going to happen this week? 
I don't know guys, it it, it 

922
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,880
doesn't get easier for a while. 
And part of that is calling 

923
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,640
people into action, all right? 
And action doesn't have to be 

924
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,840
pick up a sword or you pick up a
pitchfork. 

925
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,120
It can mean that you're doubling
down in your local community to 

926
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,200
make sure that kids have school 
supplies, to make sure that 

927
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,800
families have food that make 
sure that the garbage is picked 

928
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,600
up. 
It could be working in mutual 

929
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,960
aid. 
It could be showing up to public

930
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,560
meetings. 
It could be being involved as a 

931
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,120
volunteer with an organization. 
It could be dealing, you know, 

932
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,040
like animal shelter. 
You know, there's, there's so 

933
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,400
many things that we can do and 
not everybody can do the same 

934
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,280
thing. 
Not everybody can donate a lot. 

935
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,920
Not everybody has a lot of time.
But there are doable jobs. 

936
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,400
Smart organizations have a lot 
of little things they can hand 

937
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,360
off to volunteers, whether it's 
texting, making phone calls, 

938
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,240
folding sheets and blankets, 
organizing material. 

939
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,720
They may need somebody to run a 
newsletter. 

940
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,480
You never know. 
But don't just go in with your 

941
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,280
ideas, folks. 
Make sure you go in and find out

942
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,200
what is the need, What do they 
need? 

943
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,840
You know, how do your skills 
match up with that? 

944
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,040
That that helps make things a 
better place. 

945
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:58,560
So we all got to show up. 
We all got to show up. 

946
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,040
And in Virgo season, it's a 
reminder that Virgo is the sign 

947
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,960
that rules service. 
It rules service. 

948
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,480
So there's that. 
Oh, guys, the times we live in, 

949
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,880
the times we live in, it's crazy
sauce. 

950
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:22,280
I tell you, it's crazy sauce. 
Yeah. 

951
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,360
So I hope you have a great week.
Remember, you're so much more 

952
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,760
valuable than you know. 
And the more we understand how 

953
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,920
to radically accept ourselves, 
the more we can enter in like 

954
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,120
hearts with other people. 
And that's what's going to make 

955
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,360
things better. 
I'm Lori Rivers and it is always

956
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,040
a pleasure to be of service to 
you. 

957
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,960
I want to invite you to join the
Patreon. 

958
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,240
If you can't join the Patreon as
a paid member, join as a free 

959
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,120
member so you get alerted of 
special deals and classes and 

960
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,520
what have you to. 
And I put out content there. 

961
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:07,480
I'm again, I remember I'm a one 
woman show and I have some help 

962
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,920
too. 
But when it comes to creating 

963
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,400
the content, I'm kind of it that
I'm the one doing it. 

964
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,960
So here we go. 
So I'll be teaching in September

965
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,000
and I really do want to know, 
what do you what do you think of

966
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,720
the astrology of the child as as
a title for a class? 

967
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,400
Let me know in the comments on 
Spotify and YouTube. 

968
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,200
That's where I know I get 
comments for the podcast. 

969
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:39,600
The thank you for supporting the
podcast, even as a listener.