And I I think to be above us, it's a huge source.
And you know, especially today where we live in a time of war,
where people have to go out to me, Lewin, you know, I think
that that's exactly that's taking Torah and saying it's not
enough to send the base measures.
You have to go out. And I think that's what
something that I'm so is understanding now was very
young. I was 20 and they were like,
listen, you're too young. We can't really hire you.
And then a few hours later, they're like, you know what,
we're going to hire you because you have no one else.
And I didn't really leave yeshiva.
I felt like, OK, this is the first step.
And then we move on to the second step, which is taking to
run it and impacting it. And also after you leave your
ship, you still you still run to run.
I said I did Robin, it's me. Hi.
And I did that also after you I finished it after your Shiva,
you can still learn to after. And I feel like algebra I I did
not like my last year in Shiva because I felt like I need to
be. That's it.
It's enough. I'm ready to go out.
So I think it's OK. And not just it's OK.
It's it's good that you're not learning to all day because you
need to be doing stuff in this world.
I shouldn't put you in this world.
I feel to do stuff, not just a cinema.
Shalam Alaikum and welcome to Start Tank.
Start Tank is a podcast by the challenges and opportunities of
being a mentor in the workforce. This week we are joined by Ashi
Teragan. Ashi is a doctor in the ER,
Atari Select Medical Center, as well as doing a few other things
which we'll get into. So Ashi, welcome and thank you
for joining us. Thank you for having me.
So it's supposed to be on the show?
So before we jump in, a quick personal request to please make
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review. It really helps us grow the show
and reach new listeners. So Ashley, you grew up in a home
where both parents are tremendous Marbet say Torah on a
world class scale, really top of the top.
In case you didn't know, Ashley's father is Rabbi Ruben
Tarrigan, the Dean of overseas tell me them at Yoshiwata Hotel
and a former guest on the show. His mother is Urbani Shawni
Tarrigan. So what was that like for you
growing up in such a home? Home filled with Torah, but it's
a special type of Torah because it's Torah that's geared towards
I'm Israel and towards Eretz Israel.
My parents, they made aliyah. They sacrificed a lot and
they're first in their families to make aliyah, so they didn't
really have much here. Later, my cousins moved after
they did, but there was a lot of muna and what they did that
basically impacted the whole family.
So I got a lot from that and it kind of geared me towards what I
wanted to do in the future. Amazing.
And someone mentioned to me that you made a Siam Ashas Gamora,
your bar mitzvah. Is that true there?
Is some truth to it. I'd made a few FUSC mashas
throughout my years. I did in high school.
I did when I got married. I did after I finished the Army.
I believe in integrating every step of your life with terror.
Right. So you're learning a lot from a
very young age, and obviously you have these two great role
models of examples growing up. So when you were arrived at
yeshiva, did you already have an idea of what you want to do with
your life? Were you attracted to maybe
going in their path and becoming a teacher or Mahaner?
Yes, yes and no. I was very attracted to teach
Torah and I loved how they had the connection to so many.
Tell me them and such a huge impact.
And I can see how the relationships that they built
continued with them throughout their steps.
Meaning students continue to keep cashier.
I remember as a kid I would open the door of our house and I find
letters with envelopes with things inside, not knowing what
is what's inside. And then one time I decided to
open it and I saw a few. I saw a gauze pad with some
blood on it, and I didn't understand what it was.
And then I realized a few years later that those were all the
need, the questions that my mother was getting.
So. So yes.
But I guess the question is, like you, you see their impact,
you see what work they're doing. You yourself were learning a lot
of Torah. So.
So why was that like a serious option at some point?
Yes, and I did, meaning I, I still teach and I taught her for
many, many, many years. I taught at high schools.
I taught Mccraw High in high school.
I was around there. I taught at Ghosh, I taught the
MTA program of the Australians. I taught many, many years and
this is a can speak better later, one of my focuses on my
life teaching converts through the Rabbanut.
For 10 years I taught all the thousands of Israeli soldiers
who wanted to convert. Every month we have around 300
students from the Israeli army who want to convert.
So that is definitely something that I continue to do and I
enjoy, and I love Torah. At the same time, I also wanted
to focus on other things which I felt I could do besides teaching
Tara. So let me tell us about some of
those things. You know, you're a doctor, you
do some other things as well. So.
So what were some of the steps we started to take to diversify,
not just be teaching Tara and learning Tara what you were also
doing, but to do additional things as well?
I believe in the Gemarma Shabbos and also the round bomb.
But what I mean the Gemarma Shabbos says first of all,
everyone needs to know three things.
That's Mila, saphris and shrita. So when I was in yeshiva, I
studied all three and the bar Hashem I do all three saphris.
I used to write missus was from my convert students.
I used to help fix the Freitura moshita.
I took a shrita course when I was in yeshiva and I used to
help chef in their roster room whenever they wanted some
turkeys, some kosher turkeys and Shabbat soup had a lot of kosher
turkeys I would bring home. And I do a lot of brisses and
something I'm very, very proud of and gets me very, very
excited, especially as a doctor, being able to combine halacha
medicine through the mice of a bristle, something very, very
special. So I think, you know, taking
tour and not just leaving it something which isn't a safe
hill in the classroom, but implementing it out in the
field. I think that's part of being a
rub. And unfortunately, I feel that
sometimes today around like you being yeshiva, but you don't
really know all the, the practicality to it.
And that's a very big disconnection than I felt when I
was in yeshiva. And so I do that.
The second thing that I'm sure you've heard many from many
other people is the bambam that says that you have to have
Torah, Mulaka and without Mulaka, the Torah and Amit
Kayevit. And you know, everyone thinks
the bambam who was also a doctor.
I really believe that way. The bambam for me is a Dumutla
Moffet where I also try to have mulaka with my Torah.
Not just because you just need malacha to make money.
You don't want Torah to be the base, the the source of your
money, your income. But also because I believe that
through Torah you can use the Torah and you should use the
Torah to to impact the world, not just in the world of Torah.
And that's what I do when I practice medicine.
So I want to hear more about that, but I guess just, you
know, obviously the Ramam is, is well known, but it's also well
known that, you know, Lamisa, even people and Claudia Sell
who, you know, believe in working as a principal and they
believe in going to the army and all these things.
The more the more integrated and broader sections of the Torah
community don't pass in the Rambam in the fact that like
rabbis to be a full time rabbi, to be a teacher, to receive a
scar for that Paranasa for that is, is, you know, they're,
they're very it's very uncommon to find that.
And again, growing up, you had two parents who were, you know,
Miss Parnas based on the the very widely accepted head there
of teaching Torah and being paid for that.
So. So maybe tell a little more
about why this Ramam spoke to you and why it was important
that the Paranasa and the Malaha be a part of it.
So I guess, you know, going back to the question you asked, I
don't know my parents would be so happy if I say this, but I
will say that they, my parents had ambitions to also do things
besides Torah. My mom, my mother and father
both wanted to be doctors. And I think, you know, when they
made a Leah, the careers had to be focused on Torah.
And also that's the path that way they went on to and it
doesn't allow them to do really other stuff which is not terror.
Personally, I think that if they, my mother always says she
still wants to study medicine. And I think that bar Hashem, I
have the source of being able to combine both and to show that it
is possible to stay teaching Torah and to work, work and
something which is not terror. And I think it is possible and,
and, and, and I know that there are people who do it, who focus
on terror from, from when I impact, from what I experienced,
I, I did not, not like that lifestyle.
I wouldn't say the wrong, the word of wrong.
I don't think I'm close to you. I think there's a lot of
problems and just having terror now that's my moon, that's my
ash kafa. I feel that when you, when your
life is just Torah and your income is dependent on it, it
can cause problems. You know, sometimes you don't
want to say that, for example, we have this phenomenon.
I'm sure you're aware of it of rabbis who used to work as a
rather of a show of a community. And then they're fired because
they said some things that the community did not want to hear.
So if your income is dependent on Torah, you're not going to
say things because the community doesn't want to hear that that
has AI think it's just it's hologically wrong.
I think it's scuffly wrong and everything there is wrong.
So it once I am not dependent on Torah and I could teach Torah.
Ms. you know, out of muna. This is the right thing and I'm
doing it Lishma. Then I feel like my Torah is
also much deeper and I'll send a personal level.
I feel that, you know, when I come to a class and people know
that I'm a rabbi and a doctor and a lawyer, Then then when I
teach Torah and when I share stories that are related to
Torah and has a huge impact on their lives and that where most
of them are not going to be something.
I'm just in the base measures all day.
Most of them going to be people who go out to the world and and
do stuff and Barkha Shami get a lot of questions which are
exactly on the cool of Torah and Mado Torah and and working.
And most people can be by a bus. And I I think to be a by a bus,
it's a huge source. And you know, especially today
where we live in a time of war, where people have to go out to
me Lewin, you know, I think that that's exactly that's taking
Torah and saying it's not enough just in the basis of interest.
You have to go out. And I think that's what's
something that I'm so is understanding now.
So I hope that answers your question.
Yes, you mentioned the financial independence, which is which is
a very important thing. And I think it's also, you know,
interesting to note how, you know, I think many people had
big influence on Kali. So I'll do it because they are
not dependent on their big salary.
You know, people like our local scene we've had on this show has
been a very big Margaret's Torah and he's a complete free agent
hoscopically because he's very financially independent.
And we've we had a great conversation with him.
But I guess a few things I want to follow up on.
You know, you said that you're able to be free because you have
other incomes when you do to your teaching on the side.
Are you mock but to not take money for that or are you OK
Think it's harmatology? It's interesting because I also,
you know, Barksham was OK to have Paranasa and also to do
some teaching on the side and even in the hawk.
So he has about about about harbatology.
This comes up. So I'm wondering just for you is
that is that saying that because you have your other income,
you're prefer to be mock me or not take money if you're
teaching or it's still important to get that?
So definitely Kabura's ensuring that I give an aside which is
not a Kabua job. I don't I don't take money for
no question about it. I feel like that that's
completely schma when it's part of today.
I teach Torah as part of a curriculum.
For example, I teach in my hotel, I teach their Torah
ethics and halacha related to nursing.
So there I feel that staff could because I'm teaching stuff which
is not just Torah, but it's the implications of Torah on their
jobs. It's a practical tool.
So I do take money for it. It definitely helps the it's our
a bit. I got my income is not still not
dependent on it, but I feel like when you take take money, you do
the job more seriously. I find this when I do bristles,
I used to do bristles for free. And first of all, bristles takes
when you want to do it seriously and do it well, it takes a lot
of time because you come a day before you come a day after you
want to take out the bandage. You have to be available to the
parents. I used to do it for free and I
found a that it takes a lot, a lot of time.
This time comes off on other stuff.
It comes off on my work, on my family.
So even though it's a mitzvah, you know, to do abreast the same
way it's a mitzvah to teach, I think, I think Dafka because it
takes so much time and you want to do it well, then I think
that's OK to take money. And I'm not just OK.
I think it's great. So what I mean, my last thing
when, when I did not take money sometimes, especially by like
secular people, they would not respect that.
They would find that they felt like I would not be doing a
serious job if they don't give me money.
I for example, there's a bris I took, I took 1500 Shekel.
And then the guy's like, wait a second, does that mean you're
not good enough? Because you, you know, I know
all the people, all the doctors take 3000 shekel.
And I decided, you know what, you're right, I should take 2000
shekel and it's it's that concept of money reflects the
work that you do. Yes.
I hope that answers your. Question OK.
So you know, you spoke about the financial aspect of combining
Torah and Malacca, but you were also alluded to before.
There are other bridges there, other connections, the other
benefits that come from this pollination of of 2 worlds.
So I wonder if you could tell me more about that specifically in
your in your medical, your medical career and you also
threw in, I wanted to make sure you don't miss this point.
You're also a lawyer. How did that come to be?
And how is that also part of this broader framework?
So I deal a lot. There's a lot of connections
between medicine and halacha. I personally deal in emergency
medicine and tried said that where it's not, there's a lot of
there's a huge religious population there.
So I get a lot of questions in the emergency room.
I'm a little bit like the rabbi of the emergency room questions
related to life and death. You know, how much do you have
to intervene? Should you intubate?
Should you not intubate and pick families when they come?
They have no clue that they don't, they don't know anything.
It's so tense and so anxious with what's going on and
overwhelmed that being able to tell them, listen, it's fine if
you don't intubate holically, you don't have to worry about
it. This is a situation where the
intubation can kill the person and it's OK not to intubate.
It's not us, Sir. It might even be the exact, the
exact direction where Allah had bleeds.
Better not to intubate. And that gives them more
manifest with dealing with the situation.
Another example, of course, is, you know, leaving the emergency
room on Shabbos. In what cases can you leave?
What cases can't you leave? I wrote an article about it to
Tumen. And I believe that there are a
lot of cases where patients should be able to leave the
emergency room on Shabbos. And, you know, being able to
give them the sock based on another sock in which one was
I'm in Orbach and that's it's a liaiser telling them when it's
OK to leave, especially when they have an elderly patient who
needs to go home. And if he doesn't go home,
there's risks of staying in the hospital.
So that you know, we're practical halacha meets meets
medicine. But I also feel that when you
when you learn Torah and you learn the values of Torah, it
impacts the the work that you do where you feel yourself as a
Shalia have a kadosh before an army.
What? And you mentioned the.
Legal stuff I discuss of also being a lawyer.
I studied law at the same time I studied medicine.
I worked in I my my, my, my Mumbai autism as a medical
malpractice. So I used to present represent
the plaintiffs, the tovim against the doctors.
And my goal was to protect doctors.
And now I share my help protecting hospitals against
lawsuits. I feel that's also slipped in a
way and. You explain what that means,
that you're representing the patients who are suing doctors,
and you did it in order to protect doctors.
So that's complicated when you learn when you learn the faults
of the doctors are and you know what the mistakes that we can do
then a, as a doctor, you can protect yourself from those
mistakes, meaning you make sure you don't do those mistakes.
You know what the red flags are. But B, as a hospital, you can
make sure you don't get sued and you don't pay money that you
shouldn't be paying to people who don't deserve to get that
money. And unfortunately, you have a
lot of cases where people just want to get money.
And when you take money from a hospital, you basically hurt you
basically hurt him all about me. So because that hospital doesn't
have as much money to help now that the patients, I find that
also to be the cook, you know, especially when it comes to
questions of EMET. The check here to be a lawyer
who who focuses on Emet and you know, having that flexibility to
focus on that. Because the same way as a rabbi,
I made it very clear to the law office, I'm not going to touch a
lawsuit where I don't believe in the lawsuit.
I mean, if I think the check here, I'm not going to be part
of this and I'm even going to tell them, I'm going to tell
them, listen, this is a case we should not go to court.
You should try to make have a compromise.
Have a sure as quick as possible so you don't waste your time,
but be because the person really deserves that money.
You know that that's the same thing, Tower values that
reflects what you what you do with Lamisa.
I'm wondering, you know, your career choice as a doctor is a
is one that has a lot of values to it.
You know, there's there's always many mitos attached to it is
medicine for everybody, meaning like a certain Toro thought
process would say, let me choose a profession which is as aligned
as possible with as many mitzvahs and helping and, and
has said and and other things like that.
And so you were Zoka, you know, in Israel is very difficult for
people to get into medicine. You know, kudos to everyone out
there who's been through the system.
And it's really not Lopez shoot the clow.
Or if someone just doesn't have like, how do we go about
thinking about this choice of profession because it seems to
be such a great one, but it's not for everybody.
We don't need a nation where everyone's a doctor.
So how do you go about thinking about that choice of profession
versus others? So as you say, it's a big
supposed to be a doctor. I think whoever can wherever as
the killing should do it. But I'm starting to meet more
and more religious doctors out there in the field, which was
not so common before. It is difficult and as well
hopefully become a bit more easier.
If you're not a doctor that of course, there's a lot, a lot of
things you can help people. Mavaran used to love fields jobs
that would help people. He did not like lawyers, but he
what I told him I'm going to medicine.
He was very, very happy because being able to take turn helping
using that Torah values to help people, that's a tremendous
thing. So anything that helps people
can have physical therapy, you know, speech therapy, you can
have any anything which is related.
Medicine is not just a doctor, you can be a nurse anything
again, yes, the person has to see that.
That's what that's what's my team for them for the neshama.
And then that's there's and sometimes it's confusing.
People don't know what they want personally.
You have to know what you want, and then after you know you
want, you have to make sure it fits with the Torah values to
take the Torah values and implement them.
So, I mean, yeah, you know, it's very common people to go into
things that are nothing related to medicine, business and stuff
like that. And you mentioned, you know,
people need to know what they want, but it's not always so
clear. It's not always so simple.
People have, you know, various skills or various interests, and
they're really not sure what to do.
So do you have any tips for people who are trying, trying to
find their way, find their mission, even though they don't
know, maybe have different options or don't have options?
I'm still young, meaning there's a question which you should ask.
You know, people are much older, usually they like to get tips.
Today there's so many options. That's why I'm so confusing for
me, it was very clear when I was young that I wanted to be a
doctor. Cases where it's not clear and
you have to go out and try, you have to go out and look and dive
in a lot to have shimmer. I, I love the pasa Karina
Shandar Kevon handy bro. I'm sure the mantra.
I even as a doctor, it can be very confusing.
You don't know what profession you want.
Even after you know what profession you want, you don't
know what hospital you want. You're always going to have
spakers in life. I think you have to dive.
You have to go out there and, and, and taste it.
You can't just sit and talk about it.
You know, same way you can't just talk about you have to, you
have to go out to the shut off and do it.
And I think when people go out and they did, they try things
and then they get a better sense of what they want.
You also alluded to the fact, you know, around the Constein
that Honolulu Raja, you know, was not a big fan of the legal
profession. And I've never really like
gotten a gun. I never really I've been curious
about this, but never had a chance to actually go into a
deeply about why he was so against what what was it that he
saw the legal press and they thought that it was not a good
profession for for many. I think for first morally
thought that a lot of lawyers would not would be Baderf Yasha
Baderf Ms. It would cause people to lie or say things close to
lying. You know, it puts you in a lot
of ethical dilemmas, especially if you're trying to be a
Ventura, but also because once you stop focusing on people and
you know, it becomes complicated because you forget what what's
really important as a lawyer, you see a lot of papers, a lot
of technical stuff, and you forget sometimes that you're
dealing with people. I think that's something that
that he even not like. Because that second point, you
know, could be applicable to many things and I count into
just crunching numbers all day, can also forget that he's
actually providing the financial services to a person at the end
of the day. Right.
I think it's a combination of both, meaning I think, you know,
it's a, a doctor, an accountant, and then a lawyer.
You know what I mean? Because but again, I had many,
many students, He had lawyers and he had accountants.
He had everything. Anyway, I think it depends on
how the person would act. And did that concern bother you
when you decided, you know, there's a, as you alluded to,
it's it's not Pasha, and you've created a clear moral stance for
yourself. But will you ever worry that you
know such a prevalent mindset or danger could be a problem for
you? And maybe you shouldn't go down
that path of being a lawyer? So again, my law is is tough out
to my E car. It's a tool to help my E car
become better. My E car is to be an avid ashram
and to work as a doctor. That's something that's that's
my eco. That's what I feel my still hood
in all has is and the law helps, but it's it's not my eco.
Yeah, I'm also involved a little bit of risk management.
So that helps. That's where it also comes in a
little bit. OK, a few more topics I want to
touch on. You know, you mentioned that you
learned in yeshiva, so that tells us about the issues that
you learned in. And I'm wondering, did you ever
have herb aim? Who were disappointed, upset,
pushed you to to not go out and focus on other things?
Is that saying that you were ever ever encountered?
Or Hashem, No, but I'm going to be very going to say something
that might not sound so good. I picked my ribane, you know
what I mean? Meaning I go to someone who I
think is good for my Sharma and I think, you know, is the right
person for for Ashley Tarigan. And if he's not right for Ashley
Tarigan, I leave him now. But Hashem, it was very clear to
me who I should go to. I had many, many rabaine and
they all helped me. You know, I built a cache with
all of them. And I was in high school.
I went to McCarthy and I had Rav Dobzinger I'm still very close
with. I had Rush, who I loved very,
very much. And then I went to Kush and I
had Ravaran and Weiffelt was one of the main rabbis for me.
And gosh, I have a bazaq. Well, I liked very much as
fiber. And when I went to KBY, I very
much like the rodents. Like that's the main reason I
went to KBY. And I like for a month, it was
my first month as a shoeboxer. We got to connect.
Then I was completely clueless. And you were able to get me to
shade a little bit until my Shiva.
Appreciate that until today. Yeah, you know, I guess, I guess
it's me, Shamaya, and we met there.
Otherwise, it's hardly happening.
And I felt that, yeah, that this was a being there, you know, I
was experiencing what Bluffman, why my door and I, I think he's
great. But for some, they all, they all
had an impact on what I do today.
Bachman is very for being a lawyer.
I remember many times we'd come to share late exasperated at
some yeshiva meeting and say you guys really go be lawyer.
So that's AI guess I'm a whole guest between him and our and
they had other Muslim as well. But we'll do that for another
time. You always have to clarify with
the black one what he really means.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So Dave, one or two more
questions before we wrap up here.
You mentioned that you're teaching converts, you know,
versus also that the Mila, you know, we're going to record this
before she was, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to
release it after she was. So we talked a little more about
about how the opportunity came up and why you why you enjoy it
so much. Teaching conference, Misha mine.
That's the way I feel everything is.
I was. I just finished the Army and I
wanted to start working, and I saw a sign that they're looking
for teachers in something called NATIV.
In the Army, I had a soldier, I was a commander.
I had a soldier who also went to NATIV, nativist Conversion
program. I didn't fully understand what I
meant. And then I went there.
I was very young. I was 20.
And they were like, listen, you're too young.
We can't really hire you. And then a few hours later,
they're like, you know what? We're going to hire you because
you have no one else. And bokash.
And they saw, they saw that was very good.
And they kept me there. And I still go and teach there.
And I taught a lot of soldiers and a lot of citizens.
And I feel like you take terror and you change a person really
because you make them Jewish. You know, as we transition from
Shavuous to after Shavuous, it reminds me of, you know, the,
the, the transition from yeshiva to after yeshiva, from this
intense experience of Torah to a, a different type of
relationship with Torah. And, you know, you describe your
own journey as having sort of very clear path.
You came into Yeshiva adata, the hockey to leave yeshiva and to
go out and work and become a doctor.
But for some, it's not so clear. They don't have it as fleshed
out. And then that transition Shiva
can feel like a decline, can feel like they are receding and
they're I'm in there in their relationship to Torah.
So do you have any advice for people who are experiencing
those emotions and and and reframing it in a way that's
more healthy and wholesome? So I was in Shiva in many, many
years. I was in issue as in I see as
many years, other people, you know, six years and I didn't
really leave yeshiva. Meaning I always felt that my
goal in she was to prepare for life.
That's something that we're around and speak about a lot.
Have me done. So I felt like, OK, this is the
first step and then we move on to the second step, which is
taking to run it and impacting it.
And also after your leadership, you still, you still run to run.
I did it, but it's me high. And I did that also after you
finished it, after your Shiva, you can still learn to after.
And I feel like algebra, I did not like my last year in Shiva
because I felt like I need to be that's it.
It's enough. I'm ready to go out.
So I think it's OK. And not just it's OK.
It's it's good that you're not learning to all day because you
need to be doing stuff in this world.
I shouldn't put you in this world.
I feel to do stuff, not just to sit on my that's my ash cover.
OK, And last question before we get to our rapid fire around, do
you have any time management tips?
You know, you're a doctor, you're do some other things you
can get to. You know, if that's Allah and
research and lawyer and teaching Torah.
You have your own family bar Hashem, us very wonderful
children who I got a chance to meet as you and I both have 24
hours in the day. You should be doing a lot more
on your 24 hours than I do. So I wonder if you can give me
some tips. Yep, I think the plan plan ahead
in advance. So what were you going to do
every day? What time and what slot, And
also to know what's eco and what's tougher.
For example, when I was in yeshiva, I felt like this year's
not getting the shit that I was. I wasn't giving me anything.
I'm like, OK, I'm just going to soon learn by myself or, you
know, to know what what really helps me right now and what what
is what is not good. I mean, what's eco, what's
tougher and don't a lot of things that waste your time to
waste your time. Everyone's trying to get your
your time now your time is very expensive.
Everyone's trying to to take it from you.
You have to make sure that it's in your hands.
No one, no one should take away from you unless it really
deserves it. Family deserves time.
So that's a beautiful final answer and I appreciate you
taking some of your very precious, valuable time and
sharing with us. We have a rapid fire around 3
short questions, three hopefully short answers.
In the summer we have nice long Shabbas afternoons.
What do you like to do at that time?
I like to sleep because I have a multi shabba shift.
Arsala Shavua, do you have a favorite safer that you turn to
for physic inspiration or something interesting?
I learned with my kids called Sefa parsha a parsha miss
apparently and I teach my kids about the parsha.
Seem like that's the focus. Beautiful.
And finally, if you were forced to leave medicine, leave law,
and leave your teaching Torah, find some new profession may say
you dreamed of doing as a kid, what would that be?
I it's not relevant because it's not just not relevant.
That's why I mean, don't let things which are no, don't,
don't let things, other things waste your time.
My focus is Sarah Shbaka medicine.
That's it. I'm not letting other things
distract me. But maybe probably due to versus
all day, I can do that. Sounds good.
I've Terry again, thank you so much.
Really appreciate. Your time.
Thank you. Thank you.