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Welcome back everyone. 
I am Cass PNC and I'm joined as 

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usual by my partner in crime, 
Bennett Tomlin. 

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How are you today? 
I am angry and ashamed of our 

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country. 
How are you, Cass? 

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Yeah, feeling similarly, feeling
disappointed. 

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And I'm like a disappointed dad 
today is what I am and an angry 

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dad. 
So let's talk about why the 

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primary thing we're discussing 
right now that is happening as 

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as we're recording it. 
We don't know what the outcome 

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of this is going to be. 
It's not necessarily something 

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we do talk about, but we're 
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because it does relate to us. 
We're going to be talking about 

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the Southern District of New 
York and how the administration 

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is attempting to get them to 
drop a slam dunk case against 

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Mayor Eric Adams of New York 
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So Bennett, can you, can you 
just go into it? 

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On February 10th, Emil Beauvais,
the Acting Deputy Attorney 

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General of the United States, 
issued a letter in which he 

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stated the intention for the 
charges against Eric Adams for 

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his almost cartoonish corruption
to be dropped in light of the 

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difficulty they were presenting 
to Eric Adams in cooperating 

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with the Trump immigration 
enforcement activities. 

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This seemed to all reasonable 
observers like a blatantly 

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illegal and unconstitutional 
quid pro quo in which Eric Adams

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ability to cooperate with the 
policy aims of the Trump 

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administration were exchanged 
for these charges being dropped.

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After this letter was released, 
Danielle Sassoon, a former clerk

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for Antonin Scalia, a Federalist
Society associated lawyer and 

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one of the two prosecutors who 
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prison for 25 years, wrote her 
response to this. 

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And it went over exactly how 
problematic this ask was. 

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And there's a couple of things I
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including perhaps the most 
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And fans of The Wire will 
recognize the problem with this 

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part. 
There's a footnote that says I 

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attended a meeting on January 
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Adams's counsel and members of 
my office. 

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Adams's attorneys repeatedly 
urged what amounted to a quid 

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pro quo, indicating that Adams 
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with the department's 
enforcement priorities only if 

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the indictment were dismissed. 
Mr. Bove admonished a member of 

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my team who took notes during 
that meeting and directed the 

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collection of those notes at the
meetings conclusion. 

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Are you taking notes on a 
criminal fucking conspiracy? 

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Bove asked the attorneys working
underneath him. 

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Because it is of course typical 
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notes like this. 
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of SDNY in the Ryan Salami case 
after their meetings with his 

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attorneys when they were 
discussing, like his proffers, 

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his plea deal in the various 
details around that. 

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These contemporaneous notes by 
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United States attorneys general 
offices are an important part of

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the record of how their 
negotiations with these opposing

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counsels and how their 
investigation into these cases 

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going. 
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these weren't written down 
because it would represent a 

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record of this blatant 
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Sassoon's letter also included, 
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evidence against Adams that 
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that he committed federal 
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Mr. Bove rightly has never 
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case team conducted this 
investigation with integrity and

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that the charges against Adams 
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fact and law and said things 
like Adams's advocacy advocacy 

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should be called out for what it
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immigration enforcement 
assistance in exchange for a 

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dismissal of case. 
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dangerous president to reward 
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shifting commitments on 
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policy matters with a dismissal 
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Nor will a court likely find 
that such an improper exchange 

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is consistent with the public 
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I remain baffled by the rushed 
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this decision was reached. 
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Adams's counsel, and without my 
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stated rationales for dismissal,
Mr. Bove admonished me to be 

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mindful of my obligation to 
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of the United States and to 
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behalf of the Administration. 
And Danielle Sassoon, one of the

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best prosecutors in the place 
where the biggest white collar 

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fraud cases are prosecuted, was 
like, this order makes that 

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impossible. 
To do that, I think it's worth 

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talking about another attorney 
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So before that we should get to 
after this, at the end of the 

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letter she says if you are going
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consider this my resignation. 
Emil Bove then wrote a letter in

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response where he accused her of
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said that it is her obligation 
to interpret the Constitution 

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exactly how the President and 
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is derelict in her duty. 
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confirmed that he did order 
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taking notes and his stated 
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It's complete bullshit. 
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think you were leading up to, 
which is. 

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The Assistant US Attorney of 
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Who was the lead prosecutor on 
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Lead prosecutor on the Eric 
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this. 
Because they're essentially 

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there was suggestions about like
it's like, I don't know they're 

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how much they care about America
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Like I don't even know how to 
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Scott and said this. 
There's a tradition in public 

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service of resigning in a last 
ditch effort to head off a 

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serious mistake. 
Some will view the mistake you 

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were committing here in the 
light of their generally 

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negative views of the new 
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I do not share those views. 
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chief executive whose background
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might see the contemplated 
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good, if distasteful, deal. 
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would know that our laws and 
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the prosecutorial power to 
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less elected officials, in this 
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If no lawyer with an earshot of 
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him that advice, then I expect 
you will eventually find someone

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who is enough of a fool or 
enough of a coward to file your 

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motion. 
But it was never going to be me.

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So you can feel the contempt 
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for this administration in the 
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And I think to be clear, like I 
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for Antonin Scalia. 
This lawyer clerked for John 

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Roberts. 
Higgins Scott and clerked for 

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John Roberts. 
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These are former SCOTUS clerks 
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conservatives on the court. 
These, this is not some like 

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crazy woke liberal anything. 
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steeped in the conservative 
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Constitution and they are aghast
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Since that letter, there has 
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of SDN wise public integrity 
line attorneys have been brought

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into a room where DOJ officials 
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of you is going to sign this 
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all of you are being fired. 
Utterly unspeakable interference

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by the executive in the like 
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Justice and like the process of 
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States. 
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more egregious than the Saturday
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This act alone should be enough 
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person involved and may even 
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unconstitutional exchanges of 
goods that should land some of 

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these people in prison for their
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But most foundationally, they 
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on this nation, our nation. 
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that in the very near term is 
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ramifications. 
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finished recording, the total 
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resigned as part of this is up 
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And reportedly, according to 
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the motion. 
People have speculated that this

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is going to be a very 
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this lawyer presents this 
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Just wanted to come in here from
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interject that. 
Yeah, we're in big trouble. 

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I need people I like. 
I, I can't, I, I, I don't, I 

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can't shout. 
I don't want to yell. 

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I don't want to be obnoxious to 
people. 

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I'm trying to convince so, and 
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I, I, I know how crazy this 
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good. 
There are people who are really 

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just keen on this idea that 
like, oh, if you break the 

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system down, then the rebuild 
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And none of them speak from a 
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never lived through that. 
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And I can guarantee you that 
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a democracy that we have had the
wonderful luck of having for, 

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for as long as we have, it's not
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So I that is where we're headed.
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can confirm that is because it 
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and Elon Musk and his and, you 
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now just take money from 
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Yes. 
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about how the administration has
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unconstitutionally impounding 
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They were ordered to stop this 
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multiple states who are suing 
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is actively not complying with 
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Since that court order, they 
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attempting to use ACH automated 
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funds that were already 
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organizations back, presumably 
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houses fraud provisions, which 
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take these funds back. 
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been appropriated by Congress 
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impounding and them ignoring the
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Which is even more troubling 
when you realize that both Elon 

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Musk, the current special 
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broadest mandate humanly 
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President of the United States, 
who is 1 tainted burger away 

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from controlling the world's 
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have said on X, the Everything 
app, that they are likely to 

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ignore judicial orders that 
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of this administration. 
That is fundamentally a public 

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acknowledgement that they intend
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This is an open and public 
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dictators. 
They are openly stating it. 

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They have impounded 
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and intend to ignore the 
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They are placing the executive 
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and Donald Trump are A2 headed 
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And people, I know there's going
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matter what, there's going to be
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people who think you guys need 
to focus on, you know, just pure

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fraud or pure crypto or 
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And I, and I just want to say 
that we're talking about this 

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stuff because the, the one, the 
wonderful way that we've had 

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such a powerful dollar and, and 
such a, a hyped up economy for 

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so long is because we have rule 
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And right now we're talking 
about dismissing the rule of law

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in this country, about being 
like the court is the president 

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and I and I don't think people 
understand what that means. 

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I really don't cry liberals. 
But like, no, you're going to 

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cry too. 
Like when you start getting hurt

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by this and you want to say 
something and speak up about it,

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you you won't be able to because
you can get arrested for it now 

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or something like the the rules 
are different now, yeah. 

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The the most liberal prosecutor 
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Attorney General's office is 
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right now. 
And Hagen Scotten and Daniel 

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Sassoon are not at all liberals.
These are like Federalist 

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Society people. 
Antonin Scalia and John Roberts.

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My fucking God. 
Like they this is JD Vance is 

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publicly called it de 
baathisation. 

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Like this is fundamentally like 
Hitler clearing the Strausses 

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out of the Nazi party or Stalin 
clearing everyone except for 

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Stalin out of the Communist 
Party in Russia. 

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Like this is fundamentally not 
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the broader conservative 
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This is a small number of people
who have seized the levers of 

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power and are instituting a 
dictatorship in front of your 

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eyes. 
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being constitutionalists, and 
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don't clearly don't give a fuck 
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constitution, but let's. 
Not be incompetent. 

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They can't even host the fucking
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letting anybody who wants fuck 
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Yeah, that's because so they, 
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about all this transparency. 
Elon Musk did a press conference

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with Donald Trump where he used 
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whole time, basically like had 
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this little boy who did not need
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It was so creepy and so weird. 
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answer any questions. 
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heard from people in power 
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on something, he got very wrong.
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had been sent to Gaza. 
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condoms to Gaza? 
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Gaza, Mozambique, it's not Gaza,
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And he was like, well, you know,
people are going to make 

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mistakes and change it 
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And it's like, what? 
So you're cancelling the condoms

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you sent there because you 
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And now you're like, whoops, 
it's so unreal and there is no 

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transparency there. 
Your website or like posting on 

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X when you don't know what 
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That's not transparency, that's 
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caring. 
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So when when people have pressed
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of conflicts of interest and 
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law of the constitution and the 
history of the Republic, his 

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response was we can't be doing 
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transparent. 
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towards the doge website, 
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connected to the doge website. 
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that website didn't exist. 
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website using non government 
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services and then mirrored the 
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website and said now there's a 
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Since then, these people, these 
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security aficionados, they left 
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open and unprotected and people 
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edits to the website. 
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part of all this is Doja 
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government departments that are 
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They are operating out of the 
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which was a group set up after 
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debacle to ensure that United 
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services operated better. 
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and technical service that 
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So DOGE is a government 
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its congressionally stated 
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They want to eliminate a 
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doing what it's supposed to. 
Hey, let's talk about DOGE, you 

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fucking idiots. 
Doge, which I think is still is 

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it. 
It's still not a real, it's not 

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a government department. 
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the United States Digital 
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department, kind of, but is also
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And the acting head of USDS has 
said that you've had like no 

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contact with Musk or the Dodge 
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And so that just further 
emphasizes how Dodge is a mirage

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meant to give a bunch of tech 
like libertarian pilled drapers 

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from Silicon Valley access to 
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the United States Treasury, all 
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Yeah, we're fucked. 
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that and things like liberal 
tears, like enjoy it now. 

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Enjoy it now because they're the
autocrats don't just come for 

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the for the people they don't 
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They'll come for you eventually 
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So that's where we are. 
I think I'm super disappointed 

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and it seems like the only way 
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the military dues doing 
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something. 
And that that puts us in a 

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really tough position because 
that means we already aren't a 

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democracy anymore. 
So I like if that's where we're 

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headed, it's a lose, lose 
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We don't want to be in the 
position where you have a 

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military junta setting up a 
provisional government, right? 

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But we are also in a position 
where the leaders of this 

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administration have publicly 
stated their intention to 

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violate court orders, and they 
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court orders. 
Which means we're in a position 

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where it seems the US Marshals 
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certain people in order to 
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ensure the appropriate 
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And so Elon Musk needs to be 
arrested to save the Republic is

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the place we are AT. 
And that's dangerous and absurd,

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but it is where we are. 
And you know, it's a lose, lose 

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for America, for every citizen 
in America, for the government, 

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for the judiciary. 
It's it's really a lose, lose 

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for all that. 
But I will say it's a win win 

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for cast coin.