1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Welcome back everyone. I am Cass PNC and I'm joined as 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,600 usual by my partner in crime, Mr. Bennett Tomlin. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,280 How are you today? I'm glad to be talking to you 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,800 right now. How are you, Cass? 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,520 Same. I'm glad to be talking to you. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,920 I have a lot of crazy thoughts swirling around in my head and I 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,080 need to spew them out to somebody, maybe to even 30,000 8 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:24,440 people. So let's go ahead and do it. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,680 Today we're going to be talking about what's called The 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,200 Realization and Tesla Q people and Elon Musk haters know 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,560 exactly what we're talking about. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,320 Everyone else probably doesn't, and I think a lot of our 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,280 listeners probably aren't Elon Musk haters or Tesla Q 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,880 individuals. So what is the realization? 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:48,480 Well, the realization is when Elon Musk eventually decides to 16 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:53,160 wade in and tell you his expertise in your area of 17 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:56,360 expertise, whatever it may be, you will soon come to the 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,840 conclusion that Elon Musk doesn't know what the fuck he's 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,240 talking about. And we wanted to talk about 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,840 ours. So not like usual, I'm, I'm 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,000 actually going to start this one and I'm just going to talk about 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,960 my realization very quickly. So my realization happened in 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,800 2018. I had long understood that Elon 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,040 Musk, like he had always sounded like an idealist to me. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,680 And Tesla obviously had all kinds of issues when it came to, 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,160 you know, like the viability of their business, I guess is what 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,640 I'll say. But I always thought, OK, well, 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Elon Musk isn't necessarily a fraudster or a thief, but one 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,840 day he was talking about his tunnels. 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,240 And I, I like the idea of like making a faster, more affordable 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,840 tunnel. The ideas sounds good if you 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 don't know anything about how to do tunneling. 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,600 So it sounded good to me. And then he went ahead and 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,120 started on one of his tunnel projects, the tunnels in Las 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Vegas. And I was like, oh, good, great, 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,600 this will be good for Las Vegas. Let's see what happens. 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,400 And he also started a pilot program in Los Angeles, where I 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,040 lived at the time. And he posted one day later 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,600 after saying this was going to be mass transit and a great 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,800 essentially like a subway. He posted like look at the Tesla 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:24,600 tunnels in Las Vegas and the Tesla tunnels which it became 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,440 clear were were called Tesla tunnels because they only were 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,240 for Teslas. This was you drive your vehicle 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,640 into this tunnel, you go around whatever traffic there may be in 45 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,800 town and you arrive at your location. 46 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:44,600 So I said, why have affordable mass transit when you can 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 provide private tunnels for expensive vehicles? 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,920 Because I think anyone with a a brain, you don't have to know a 49 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:53,640 lot about public transportation to be like, oh, this, this is 50 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:58,240 not mass transit. And he responded to me and said, 51 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,360 not exactly. I'm going to be nice to him and 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,120 just think he missed a phrase here. 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,640 He said, this is affordable mass transit, but better in that it 54 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:08,760 takes you where and when you want to go. 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,360 It is not mass transit. It is private cars for private 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,840 tunnels. And that's when I I realized he 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,880 was the monorail guy from The Simpsons and that he was 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 screwing everyone over. So that was my realization 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,000 moment. Bennett, what was your 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,800 realization moment? So I remember back in 2016 when 61 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,200 like the Paint It Black video came out, I was legitimately 62 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,280 excited about like Tesla and self driving and things like 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,800 that. I was admittedly young. 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,960 I was 20 or whatever. More than I can say. 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Then there was a series of things that happened over 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,600 several years that rapidly moved me from that position. 67 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,760 One of the first things I remember is in 2017, again 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,560 related to his mass transit projects. 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,600 He pretended he was bidding for some project in Chicago that was 70 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,440 going to run from like the Loop to O'Hare in some freak 71 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,560 freakishly short time. And he said he could build it 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,720 for like less than 110th the cost of what anyone else could 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 estimate for a project like that. 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,440 And I'm like, oh, this guy is not actually taking this 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,480 seriously. And it especially became clear 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,800 he wasn't taking it seriously because it started as a 77 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Hyperloop and then became a Loop that was going to use electric 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,960 skates based on Tesla chassis. And then eventually, if this 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,840 thing had ever actually happened, it would have devolved 80 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:35,440 into the Las Vegas tunnels. Then in 2018, Elon Musk made an 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:42,760 impractical vehicle for cave rescue and centered himself in 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,240 the middle of an ongoing rescue mission, and upon the conclusion 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,640 of that mission, decided to insult one of the people who had 84 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,160 actually put their life on the line to affect the rescue. 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,480 I guess it wasn't a slanderous accusation, but it certainly 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,600 sounded like 1 to those of us who were listening. 87 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,520 And so that really made me start to go, oh, this guy might also 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,720 be a bad person. Like he's not just lying or 89 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,400 ambitious or idealistic or have like a bad view of these things. 90 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,520 This might just be a really, really bad person to. 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Be clear, I like I just want to make sure everyone is on the 92 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,600 same page. This is the infamous pedo guy 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,560 tweet which is a a cave diver who was in Thailand and an 94 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,640 expert in cave diving went to go save these children like or at 95 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,920 least help and Elon Musk had proposed a very stupid like 96 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,400 solution and so he was an angry little troll. 97 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,320 And then the moment that convinced me Elon Musk was going 98 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,600 to be one of the arch villains of the like era of late stage 99 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,600 capitalism we're in was 2019 Autonomy Day, which is when Elon 100 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Musk announced the Robo Taxi network. 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,840 I've done a video on this before, but this was where he 102 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:03,720 promised if he bought a $35,000 car that in two years was going 103 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,920 to cost $25,000, you could make 30 dollars $30,000 in profit 104 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,360 from operating it while you were sleeping. 105 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,200 And like the implied returns from this type of project were 106 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:24,720 larger than Madoff's Ponzi, were larger than Charles's Ponzi's 107 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,600 original Ponzi, were like bigger than any other fraud I had ever 108 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,440 looked at or considered. The scale of the lie was so 109 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,000 massive, I went, oh, this guy is going for the high score. 110 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Whenever the next crashes, he wants to be the guy who loses 111 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,560 the most and causes the most devastation. 112 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,240 And like, so 2019 autonomy day is the day where I became 113 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:55,320 radically like anti Elon because I'm like this guy will say or do 114 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,960 anything if he thinks it'll help him. 115 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,240 And then since then, it's gotten just worse. 116 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,600 Oh yeah, snowballing, for sure. Snowballing. 117 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,040 I mean, he always has something to say about the media and 118 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,520 journalists, something that you and I both know at least 119 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,920 something about. And he clearly doesn't 120 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,680 understand any of that. He certainly doesn't understand 121 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,320 social media. I think that's been proven by 122 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,200 how he's treated his Twitter acquisition. 123 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,320 I also want to just give honorable mentions here while 124 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,400 we're discussing this, because these are individuals we follow. 125 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Who and and one of them even a guest. 126 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,560 But yeah, these are individuals we follow who have who have 127 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,000 exposed Elon and have been doing it since they came to this 128 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,360 realization. And that's a Eric Roche, who 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:43,400 we've had on as a guest to talk about Elon's rockets and how 130 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,120 SpaceX is just treated different than everyone else. 131 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Specifically, if you fail to enforce the regulations against 132 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Elan, all you do is you let Elan keep growing more and more 133 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,120 powerful until eventually he kills all regulations. 134 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Yep. That that was the thesis of that 135 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480 episode from like a year ago. Right. 136 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,080 And it, yeah, it has proven to be quite accurate. 137 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,880 And then we have Nita Meyer, Eric, Nita Meyer, who I believe 138 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,280 his realization was regarding charging stations. 139 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Battery swaps. Battery swaps. 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Tesla qualified for a bunch of extra subsidies by advertising 141 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,400 that they were going to do this new battery swap thing where you 142 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,280 would pull up and in like 3 minutes or 5 minutes or 143 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,039 something was like the promise they would take the entire 144 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,960 battery out of your Tesla, put another one in, and you would be 145 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,840 able to drive away. And there was only ever like 1 146 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,080 station and it only ever processed like one or two cars 147 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,480 or something ridiculous because obviously it wasn't like 148 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,680 economical or practical to take. Like you don't do an engine swap 149 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:51,240 when you run out of gasoline, right? 150 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,160 And like, I understand the batteries are not the engine, 151 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,800 but like they're this major component of the car. 152 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,320 The batteries are like the largest, most expensive part of 153 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 the electric vehicle. And to be clear, China has 154 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,120 actually implemented stuff like this like they have successfully 155 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,000 smaller. Electric vehicles like, not with 156 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,080 the same kind of capacity as Tesla's and without the 157 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,800 batteries being integrated into the body in quite the same way 158 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,560 Model S S were at that point. God forbid America pushes for 159 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:21,880 smaller electric vehicles that have good range and 160 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,480 capabilities. God forbid we we were to ever do 161 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,680 something like that anyway. So, so yes, China has 162 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,080 implemented that. Obviously Egon never could 163 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,240 possibly do that. And the last one I want to talk 164 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,880 about I think is the one most people are probably familiar 165 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,360 with because it is the most recent I believe. 166 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,520 I mean outside of him completely emulating the government, but 167 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,920 that is something far sillier and stupider, which is. 168 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Quinn 69 TV will will link to the video in the notes in the 169 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,160 show notes. But Quinn 69 TVA YouTube exposed 170 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:05,120 Elon Musk because he is a Quinn. Quinn is a player of path, Path 171 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,880 of Exile too, and he just, Elon Musk streamed it. 172 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,960 And it was so obvious to him, to Quinn, that Elon Musk was 173 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,920 cheating, was boosting his character with other players, 174 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,560 that he had barely played the game at all. 175 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:24,640 But here he was trying to show gamers that no, I am. 176 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,560 I'm not only am IA gamer, I'm a pro gamer. 177 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,680 I could be doing this if I wanted to be. 178 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:32,760 Which is absolute trite fucking nonsense. 179 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Like the amount of hours he would have to put into path, is 180 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,200 it paths of Exile or path, Path of Exile, Path, Path of Exile 181 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,800 too, Is that he he would have to be devoting hundreds of hours. 182 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,000 And then he ultimately admitted that he had not done this. 183 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,840 So yeah, that and that is a your account gets banned for that on 184 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,320 Path of Exile too. So it it was it was clear that 185 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,880 he was a liar and a cheater, and he got exposed just yet again. 186 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,240 And I think the other moment, though, I hope people in the 187 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,520 comments put their own individual moments. 188 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,280 I think the other thing that a lot of people saw was when he 189 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,360 started talking about like, the software architecture of Twitter 190 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,480 was a big one for a lot of people. 191 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,080 Because there were a lot of like, software engineers and 192 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:20,200 coders who had generically good opinions about Elon broadly just 193 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,280 because of where they existed and the type of work they did. 194 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:28,160 And then suddenly saw him saying nonsense about how the technical 195 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,720 systems function Well, claiming like he was going to improve it 196 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,680 by taking steps they didn't would make it worse. 197 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:44,560 And like, Elon's real skills are creating a narrative around a 198 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,800 futuristic sounding technology so he can raise money and 199 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,960 manipulating people so they don't realize that that's all 200 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,960 he's doing. I want to Before we go, I just 201 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,080 want to read one last thing. A friend of ours linked me to a 202 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,680 Bonifer essay and I just want to share this with with our 203 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,360 audience. It's called On Stupidity, and I 204 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,760 think it's really an important essay. 205 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,800 I urge everyone to read it, and I'm just going to read from it 206 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,560 really quickly. Stupidity is a more dangerous 207 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,240 enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil. 208 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,720 It can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. 209 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own 210 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 subversion, in that it leaves behind, in human beings at 211 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,240 least, a sense of unease. Against stupidity. 212 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,760 We are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of 213 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,400 force accomplish anything here. Reasons fall on deaf ears. 214 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:43,960 Facts that contradict 1's prejudgment simply need not be 215 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,520 believed. In such moments, the stupid 216 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,200 person even becomes critical. And when facts are irrefutable, 217 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,760 they are just pushed aside, as inconsequential, as incidental. 218 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,760 In all this, the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious 1, 219 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,800 is utterly self satisfied and being easily irritated becomes 220 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,800 dangerous by going on the attack. 221 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 For that reason, greater caution is called for than with a 222 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,320 malicious one. Never again will we try to 223 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,000 persuade the stupid person with reasons for it is senseless and 224 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,840 dangerous. There's a lot more to that 225 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,720 essay, and a lot of it makes what Elon is doing make a lot of 226 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,840 sense. So I, I just want everyone to go 227 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 ahead and check that out out if you have an opportunity. 228 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,040 And while you're there, we'll drop a link for Cast Coin.