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Welcome back to finding the edge
podcast. 

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I'm jeroboam joined with Robert 
Fry and today we have on a 

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well-known person in the 
strength and conditioning World 

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specifically with power 
development in Bill Miller. 

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I'm super excited to have Bill 
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I've been falling bill for quite
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And one of the things that makes
Bill very unique is that he has 

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both the capability to be in the
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side as well. 
So I really wanted to to have 

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Bill on to talk about how he 
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And so today, we explored a lot 
of stuff to do with strength and

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conditioning. 
And so, we're going to have Bill

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back on because we didn't get 
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motor learning in the skill, 
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But topics, we did Cover today 
were potentiation and how to 

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prime the nervous system to be 
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out of the gate. 
What does it look like to 

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integrate strength? 
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as well as fatigue Readiness and
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And we also had Garrett Baker, 
joined us on the call. 

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So it was a, it was a full 
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We also had some pitching stuff 
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can we use, what Javelin does to
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So it was a great conversation 
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different facets on the strength
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as we just dipped our toes into 
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the end. 
And and so we hope you guys 

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enjoy our conversation today. 
With Bill Miller, can't wait. 

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So I've just admired your work 
from afar and you basically on 

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the snc side and even seemingly 
on the skill side. 

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Happy to have been doing a lot 
of the stuff that I've been 

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super interested in a lot of the
mixing, you've from what I can 

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see, you mix, both the essence, 
see in the skill side really 

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well, I'd love to kind of hear, 
kind of a little bit about your 

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background and how you got into 
snc and then you're kind of 

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current situation. 
We were able to actually walk by

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both the line of strength and 
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coach. 
Yeah, man. 

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It's a super fortunate 
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I'm in where I do. 
Have that GM. 

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It has both the white room right
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everything like that. 
It's a great situation. 

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But so I played baseball, I 
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independent ball route didn't 
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big story in related to S and C 
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guy and I was very big into like
anything that I could improve in

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the weight room. 
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when I was playing with like, 
Juliet Slammers. 

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Like I'm the biggest strongest 
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here, throws faster than me. 
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balls farther than me, even. 
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something missing in my training
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I talk with a lot of different 
people about like different ways

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to develop speed and mobility 
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But the one guy that I have to 
give a ton of credit to is Chris

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Beardsley of strength and 
conditioning research. 

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I joined his mentorship program 
run for years ago, I want to say

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and since then like a lot of the
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necessarily always been like 
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of it has been about measuring 
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sure that whatever you're doing 
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in those areas. 
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for me like I sort of like 
relied so much on heavy strength

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training for the longest time 
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wasn't the best baseball. 
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And so kind of peeling back that
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remember there was a time about 
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training, baseball players. 
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there, I want to train the 
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the country. 
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somebody and looking back on it,
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Like, all I care about is 
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that the guys that I do train 
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they can sew. 
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All I care about is that they 
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All-American or All-Stars if 
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And so, like with that sort of 
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I've really tried to make it 
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focal point that everybody gets 
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work. 
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the batting cages. 
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work and then we go into our 
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And then everything else up to 
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I said, I'm gonna fortunate 
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I only trained about 25 to 30 
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So I have a lot of like, control
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everything like that. 
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best way that I feel. 
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train. 
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motor learning standpoint, we're
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so we're going to jump back just
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if we done proper introductions.
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everybody here yet. 
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that out there. 
Have you have you met at least 

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Robert who I know is at least 
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so you're familiar with Robert? 
How about how about Garrett 

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Baker? 
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So Okay okay, cool cool. 
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make sure that we at least I 
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to get overeager here in just 
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So but yeah. 
Do you guys have any Robert or 

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Garrett? 
Have anything you want to jump 

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in on first before I interject? 
T', they're all you go you look 

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like you're chomping at the bit 
here so I mean I got something 

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to say but yeah it looks like 
you got something more important

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to say. 
Well I don't know about that but

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you might have some good to 
Robert you should go first. 

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Then know we'll get to it. 
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All right. 
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there's so much there's so much 
good stuff bill that you you 

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said there and part of this is 
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to have you on to is that 
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avenues that you've touched on. 
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just get guys strong, I think 
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essence, e, and like, that was, 
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could be strong enough and it 
was all about get guys as strong

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as they can. 
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different weight rooms and I 
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kind of talk. 
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players. 
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your best guys in the weight 
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on the field and so that for me,
it didn't like, because the 

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voices on, on social media and 
like the coaches that I looked 

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up to preach so much like 
strength that I kind of like, 

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didn't really think that much of
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started looking more into skill 
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that piece was and and also 
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and for me that like, the whole 
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For me. 
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kid at coming in as a freshman 
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then leaving college at like 155
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weightlifting. 
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probably a strength is a is an 
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And the more that I dug into it?
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was Still this huge gap between 
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room to getting it to transfer 
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As far as the skill stuff went? 
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And I think where this sort of 
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okay? 
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a baseball team and it's almost 
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get all 35 of these kids better 
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College, you know what I mean? 
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resources. 
We We only have so much time and

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yes. 
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the same strength program 
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little bit better like that's 
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But like I said before I'm in a 
super fortunate environment 

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where it's like okay I can 
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have as much leeway as possible.
I have control over their entire

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training schedule so it's not 
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everybody you got a little bit 
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It's hey guys you individual 
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year. 
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before. 
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We are going to make that happen
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training. 
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more of these Avenues is you 
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really come into play where as I
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strength coach at you know, the 
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street, you don't really have 
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everything. 
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type of, I guess that the same 
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So, I have to say it like, right
off the bat, I'm very fortunate 

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in the environment that I do. 
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for all this stuff, but yeah, 
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there's there is definitely like
a myth out there like that, you 

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have to train with a barn, your 
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You have to do all these heavy 
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And to be honest, you don't 
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that's trained for six years in 
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pretty strong and everything 
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lunges. 
All this great stuff, that's 

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great. 
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It's like man, then that it's 
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much energy. 
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away from what? 
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at that time, like that to me, 
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longer strength training. 
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could fill their training bucket
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else is going to take a ton of 
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Why would we spend all of that 
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percent when we could be working
more in the batting cage more on

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throwing velocity, more on 
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else, you know what I mean? 
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I mean, especially as I got more
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Looking at. 
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How can I make this stuff be 
more Sports specific and 

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transfer it'll things in 
Concepts that I'm sure you're 

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familiar with of dynamic 
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that. 
I was that one of my mentors was

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talking about combination 
training, how to integrate skill

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stuff with weight room, stuff, 
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that I had kind of ended up or 
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ended up is like Pap, you know, 
potentiating, the athlete before

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intrigued me was like, how do we
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conditioning with the skill 
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really change the way that I 
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practice design. 
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throwing programs, how I even 
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that sort of stuff. 
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your Experience. 
Where, where, where have you 

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kind of? 
What have you, what do you have 

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come to in discovered as far as 
like your process and where 

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you're currently at? 
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And dude that's your really 
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I think of everywhere that I 
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baseball players coaches and 
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I actually just talked with a 
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from the Red Sox and Pete was 
talking about how he had a guy 

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in his minor league system. 
It's doing like a bunch of like 

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different drills, like, like 
lead arm medicine, ball, throws,

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and stuff like that, and how he 
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He's got that potentiating 

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structure it as I do those 
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up setting that potentiating 
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to make sure you're tracking a 
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you can track fatigue as well. 
That's another thing Chris 

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Beardsley's taught me. 
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going to hammer on high-speed 
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affected by fatigue, the most. 
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they're going to be great tests 
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This prior training. 
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well just tracking someone's 15 
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It works great for potentiation,
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okay, I know you have to get to 
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start sprinting. 
Okay. 

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Hey, you got a two point, eight 
nine, second right there. 

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Let's get to you, let's get to 
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or hitting whatever it is that 
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Yes, sir. 
Oh, go ahead, Robert. 

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I was going to say and to touch.
Uh, I I'm great. 

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I'm glad you actually brought up
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like your tweet from February 
18th. 

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Where you talked about this, 
it's not just doing do this 

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movement and then doing another 
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talked about, you know, doing 
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perform well and yeah, so like 
what you mentioned about having 

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that number behind? 
It is just so crucial. 

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how it's better, rather than 
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sprints repeating, and then 
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and having that video and 
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have that, you have those times 
where you can monitor, hey, you 

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know, in this particular Sprint,
I am fatiguing here and this 

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particular Sprint so on and so 
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So asking you, how does you 
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you in terms of future training.
Man, that's a great point. 

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It's like, to me it sets up 
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that? 
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functioning that day, if they 
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Number four in a session. 
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suck. 
We're probably not going to do 

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anything in the weight room that
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There would make any sense 
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pretty pride and and everything 
like that. 

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Yeah, but if you have a kid 
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getting better and better 
better. 

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It's like, okay, I know we have 
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and then you can even take that 
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training in the weight room. 
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say the same thing, okay? 
I know this guy dropped off by 

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0.2 m/s in his training 
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Last week, he was probably very 
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So now, like you said that's 
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because I know that his numbers 
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to track something. 
When that kid walks in the door,

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I mean, we've even done like 
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Some guys, like to do it. 
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thing to touch on is like, every
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training a little different. 
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can you track for fatigue, 
you're going to kind of have to 

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find that thing that the athlete
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They liked it. 
Test that they will show the 

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largest increase or decrease in 
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fatigued. 
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interesting one guy, we have 
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scale that you can just measure 
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And so, we do like a pal off, 
hold sometimes. 

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And we're just, you know, 
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Awful position, his goes in the 
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that only happened maybe three 
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those days are like okay you're 
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today, we're just going to, you 
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then head. 
Home. 

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But that's one that he loved to 
track another guy, loved track 

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and grip strength, that's fine, 
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Sprint, or a jumper medicine 
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bet to see if that kid is set up
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level in training. 
So, when you're tracking the 

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fatigue or just even Readiness, 
what have you seen and what's 

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his significant enough drop off?
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when you introduce something 
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little bit of downward Trend in 
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So, how do you determine when 

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you're going to give them a 
complete off day and then 

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there's also the other element 
of well, what is their season 

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going to be like and do I like 
how far out are we and then When

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does it make sense to give a guy
a complete off day, or when does

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he actually have to work through
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accustomed to that amount of 
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physical activity? 
And that's another tough one. 

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I would say, okay, so we have 
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guy walks in the gym. 
Let's say we're doing a medicine

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ball. 
Overhead throw for the radar gun

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with a three pound ball. 
Something light. 

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No, he can throw it fast and he 
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hour, he's only getting like 35 
36. 

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So, okay, let's get maybe we'll 
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Maybe we'll go pull on the crane
Scout for a couple sets, just 

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two or three sets. 
All right. 

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Now, let's come back. 
Give you a few minutes, come 

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back and see what your numbers 
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If that kid isn't really gas 
from previous session, they 

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should be able to jump right in 
and get 38 again. 

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Like, that's they should be 
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sometimes it doesn't and that's 
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So it like after Giving them 
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five reps or so. 
That after that, I would shut 

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it. 
If they're not really showing 

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that their numbers are are where
they should be. 

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But then, as far as like, 
complete off-days go, that's a 

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tough one. 
Because there's gonna be so many

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different variables man. 
Like, even if you have a kid in 

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college, they might be getting 
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practices tomorrow, maybe even 
earlier. 

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They might have midterms coming 
up and all this other stuff. 

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So to me it's like take as many 
days as you. 

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Need and prove to me that you 
are ready to train today. 

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Like training is only going to 
be impactful if the kid is ready

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to let it rip. 
Absolutely. 

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Give everything that you can and
function at a high rate if they 

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can't do it, I don't know 
anything that I can put them 

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through in the weight room. 
That would really be impactful 

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for their power development. 
Other are other things like 

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Mobility, isometrics and maybe, 
you know, different things you 

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can do for arm care and tissue 
health. 

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Those types of things are fine, 
but as far as like, true power 

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development type things in I I 
probably wouldn't have them do 

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anything if they're not 
functioning well because you 

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just can't, you can't tap into 
all the motor units that you 

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need and you can't tap into it 
fast enough for it to produce 

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any other patient. 
So then for you would you say 

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that your primary focus on the 
essence Seaside is power 

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development for baseball 
players? 

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Yeah for 100% because I mean 
that for me that that was a 

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shift it's not strength. 
Like to me it's power 

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development. 
Can you can you express strength

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quickly? 
Yeah and and yeah at some level 

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I mean coaches always strength, 
coaches, always come back with 

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well strength is the foundation 
for power and it's I don't 

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necessarily disagree with that, 
but if you, if you don't end up 

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converting that strength to 
power and actually training that

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you're leaving a lot. 
Left on the table as far as your

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ability to utilize the strength 
that you've actually developed. 

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Yeah, and that's, that's one of 
the things where I was at a 

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division. 
One school in a strength coach 

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there before was just really big
on on strength, and he hadn't 

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done any, like high-velocity 
stuff with them other than 

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Olympic lifting. 
And most of the stuff was, like,

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75 percent or above, and I did 
some isometric stuff with them 

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and like some speed deadlifts 
and maybe a Contrast in this kid

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felt like he was flying out 
there in the fall and it's like 

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because the other strength coach
had left so much untapped 

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potential just sitting on the 
table. 

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Like it only took two sessions 
with him before he felt felt 

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like he was fast out. 
Ever been in his life. 

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I'll be argument when I like, 
because I've said, very similar 

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things before the argument that 
I get as well because we did all

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the Olympic lifting and 
squatting and everything else 

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that set him up for two sessions
and he's ready to go. 

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It doesn't always work like that
with everybody, man. 

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Like shit. 
I wish that work like that for 

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me. 
But yeah, I mean, it's there's 

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so much that goes into it and 
the other thing about like 

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training at higher speeds 
training at higher velocities, 

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what I feel, it really does for 
athletes is exposes you to the 

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speeds that you're going to find
in your sport. 

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And so now when you talk about 
hey you have to go from a 

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batter's box and Sprint. 90 
feet, go do it. 

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You can turn it on and it's 
nothing. 

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It feels second nature to you. 
It doesn't feel like you're 

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doing something different, okay?
Hey, you have to Sprint, oh, you

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got to throw on the brakes and 
get back real quick. 

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Okay, I can do that. 
I did that in my training for 

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three, four, five months, you 
know. 

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Or hey you're you got to jump up
and then you got to rotate fast.

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Once you hit the ground and 
throw this kit out, okay, I'm 

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prepared to handle those types 
of speeds and certainly like 

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there's a lot of strength 
exercises that can help keep you

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safe. 
A from the field no doubt about 

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it. 
Eric cressey has made an 

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unbelievable living proving that
but at the same time it's like 

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if a guy isn't moving well at 
high speeds, they're not 

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coordinated at high speeds if 
they haven't been exposed to 

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high speeds in their training, I
feel like you're leaving a ton 

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of the table from an injury 
prevention standpoint too. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
I mean because one of the things

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that I look at it more strength 
and conditioning. 

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Oftentimes, I'm looking at it 
from the standpoint of, am I 

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preparing the tissues in the 
body to be able to handle and 

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withstand the forces I'm going 
to ask of them when it comes to 

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most often practice actually 
more so than the games because 

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often oftentimes practices way 
more intense than games, I don't

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have. 
I wish I had actual baseball 

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data, but I've seen football 
data. 

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And that is, that was definitely
true of like, they're their 

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spring or they're like preseason
sessions were way higher than 

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their game sessions and that and
you would actually see injury 

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rates where would be really high
at the beginning of practice, 

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the start of fall, practice or 
spring practice, or whatever, it

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is in football. 
And and when they actually took 

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the data and showed it to the 
coaches and they adjusted it. 

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The number of injuries came way 
down and just made me think of 

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my first year coaching at Junior
college and we came out for our 

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first day of practice in the 
dome and we did a full infield 

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and how many guys arms were just
super sore, after that first 

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team practice? 
It was like, maybe we need to 

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adjust how we do things and that
our guys weren't actually 

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prepared for, for what we were 
asking of them. 

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And that that really changed my 
thinking on how we actually 

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prepare guys like it because you
know, especially with to me, 

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Junior College High School. 
Etc guys. 

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Don't really know what they need
to be doing to prepare 

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themselves for practice. 
Like they don't think about 

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these things. 
And so I look at it as it's our 

450
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,100
job as coaches to actually make 
sure they're prepared for what 

451
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:07,100
we're asking them to do. 
Because if they come in and they

452
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:10,700
get hurt then especially if 
they're one of our top guys, 

453
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:16,000
then we're, we basically shot 
ourselves in the foot there and 

454
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,800
put them behind. 
And so to me, having these basic

455
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,800
understandings of just Basic 
strength and conditioning 

456
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,400
principles of building work 
capacity is to me. 

457
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,900
One of the things that at least 
I see as being very beneficial 

458
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,900
to strength, having strength, 
and conditioning, and that's 

459
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,000
where I look at. 
So, for example, you're talking 

460
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,500
about four hitters and rotation,
rotational power. 

461
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:42,800
For me, one thing that I've 
changed a little bit on. 

462
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,900
It's not that I don't think 
that, like, throwing mud balls 

463
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:50,800
is bad, but I don't think that 
It prepares the tissue as well 

464
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,900
as Doing something like plate 
rotations or like how you have 

465
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:59,300
like a dumbbell because if we 
think about it, when you throw a

466
00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:02,300
med ball, you don't have to 
decelerate any of that force 

467
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:04,300
that you created. 
So you can generate a high 

468
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,600
amount of force get going fast, 
but you don't then have to 

469
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,300
absorb that Force. 
Whereas if you're holding a 

470
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,900
plate and you rotate it as fast 
as you can, then you actually 

471
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:15,300
have to do something to 
dissipate it. 

472
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,500
And when we think about hitting 
we don't, we don't let go of the

473
00:26:17,508 --> 00:26:19,000
bat. 
If you swing the bat as hard as 

474
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,200
you can, all the different sort 
of joint. 

475
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:25,600
It's and and whatnot in tissues 
have to have to then absorb all 

476
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,700
that force that you created. 
And so at least to me from an 

477
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,800
oblique standpoint, I think 
doing those plate rotations, 

478
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,300
even at High Velocity working 
back and forth, all of a sudden 

479
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,100
there. 
Now, you're actually challenging

480
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:43,700
the tissues, you're building 
that capacity to actually allow 

481
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:46,800
guys to actually have a higher 
work capacity, to take more high

482
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,700
volume, High intent swings 
because I think when I was 

483
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,400
looking at some of the 
potentiation, Which they were 

484
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,000
saying that early on, you 
weren't seeing an actual result 

485
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,900
to the potentiation with the 
isometric stuff because the 

486
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:02,700
athlete was fatiguing. 
So they weren't getting that Pap

487
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:07,600
effect and but it was but after 
you know, four weeks or however 

488
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,400
many weeks then they weren't 
fatiguing anymore, and they're 

489
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,900
actually able to take advantage 
of that potentiation effect. 

490
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:19,500
And so, to me, it just kind of 
points to the fact that the body

491
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:23,400
needs to Actually be trained to 
handle what we're asking it to 

492
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
do. 
And so, to your point of 

493
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,400
fatigue, earlier guys need to, 
we should be paying attention to

494
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,800
the amount of volume that our 
guys are taking in practice, 

495
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
because if we actually want to 
develop the skill, they need to 

496
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,600
be fresher in order to develop 
it. 

497
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,400
If we start doing getting into, 
like, 50 or 100 reps, how 

498
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,500
quality are they at that point? 
When the tissues are now, become

499
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,600
way more fatigued, if you 
actually haven't built up that 

500
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,900
capacity? 
Forehand. 

501
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:55,500
Yeah, you hit the nail on the 
head because now you're talking 

502
00:27:55,500 --> 00:28:00,600
the the exact same way that I 
think which is you want to get 

503
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,800
guys strong to handle their 
sport. 

504
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,300
That's what matters we want to 
get guys. 

505
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,900
Strong to be more explosive in 
there sport. 

506
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:12,700
Those are the only two things 
that we can really work on in my

507
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:14,800
opinion, in the strength and 
conditioning community. 

508
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,800
And there's so many things that 
fall outside of the squat rack. 

509
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600
That would A athletes to do 
that. 

510
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,200
Yeah. 
Like you said, I do a lot of 

511
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,200
like, dumbbell, like a rapid 
rotational and stop. 

512
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800
I like those rapid torso decel 
drills. 

513
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,600
I have to admit. 
So, I very fortunate again. 

514
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,700
Like, I, I'm in the situation. 
I'm in. 

515
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:42,200
I have that Proteus machine. 
And the thing about the Proteus 

516
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,000
that really like, like caught 
me, obviously, like they gave me

517
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,400
a great price and stuff, but the
thing that caught my attention 

518
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,000
was You can do that exercise and
track how fast you are able to 

519
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,900
go back and forth and how 
quickly you could stop it on a 

520
00:28:58,908 --> 00:29:01,600
dime and stuff like that. 
So that's probably one of the 

521
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,100
main exercises that I wanted to 
do on the Proteus. 

522
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,600
And so we do it at on right now,
but you don't need a fifteen 

523
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,400
thousand dollar machine to do 
that. 

524
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
You can take a 20-pound dumbbell
and get the same training 

525
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,900
effect. 
But like everything else. 

526
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:18,100
I like trying to have put a 
number on it so you know, I 

527
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,500
spent 15 grand. 
I'm getting numbers. 

528
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,400
All in the Power Research, you 
know how it goes? 

529
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,100
Yeah, at the end of the day, you
know, no, those are some great 

530
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,500
points. 
The one thing I wanted ask, you 

531
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,800
know, to touch on what Garrett 
was saying earlier. 

532
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:38,800
What you were saying? 
Now bill was, you know, with 

533
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,500
kind of guys trying to be 
fresher and trying to teach 

534
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,300
this, you know, how do you treat
rest? 

535
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,700
How do you value a rest period? 
You know, do more guys, do some 

536
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,400
guy. 
As need more rest, you some guys

537
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,700
need less rust. 
You know, do you go about seeing

538
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:58,700
a way to quantify that? 
Or do you go about a way of 

539
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:04,200
saying, hey, you know, how can 
we allow guys to rest when they 

540
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,500
need to rest? 
Yeah, that's a tough one, too, 

541
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,800
because it's probably going to 
buried it vary between every 

542
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,200
kid. 
So I had see the probe, all guys

543
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400
that I had this offseason like 
they had the best schedules. 

544
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,300
They I think they came in five, 
sometimes six days a week and 

545
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,000
Grant. 
Coming in every day and we're 

546
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
tracking fatigue. 
So not every day was going to be

547
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200
a high-intensity session, but I 
knew I was going to see them 

548
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,900
everyday but then some of the 
high school and college kids, I 

549
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:35,100
only got to see him like, three 
maybe four times a week at most.

550
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,200
So those, this is where it gets 
tough because you have a kid 

551
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,000
who's paying you money to train,
and he's gassed and it's like 

552
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,100
shit, dude, you only came in 
twice this week, like, you're 

553
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:51,700
paying me money for X number of 
training sessions this month. 

554
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,700
I think I've only had to do it 
once where I told a kid, hey 

555
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,500
like we are just going to go 
through our full training 

556
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,300
session today. 
We're going to keep it super 

557
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:04,300
light and like I gave him some 
stuff that he could do at home 

558
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:08,100
the next day if he was feeling a
little bit fresher. 

559
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,700
But yeah that's that's where I 
think it gets so tough. 

560
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,500
It if especially if you're 
working with a team setting 

561
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:17,200
because all of those kids are 
coming in at the same time, they

562
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:21,100
have no, like other choice, they
have to come in when it's their 

563
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,700
time slot. 
So in those situations, man, I 

564
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:29,300
can see it being very tough and,
very not easy to just tell a 

565
00:31:29,308 --> 00:31:30,700
kid. 
Hey, you're not squatting today,

566
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,800
you're not dead lifting today, 
but in a perfect world. 

567
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Yeah. 
You should probably not be doing

568
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,900
that. 
And as far as like, what should 

569
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:42,100
you be doing on those rest days?
You know, like some people are 

570
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,900
in the mindset of like active 
recovery days. 

571
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,900
I'm not, I hate it to me, like, 
I tried doing them for the 

572
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,700
longest time where I knew I was 
gas. 

573
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,300
That I knew I was supposed to be
doing something. 

574
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,400
So I'm going to go through these
different drills and these 

575
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,400
breathing exercises and to me 
just like, being on my feet and 

576
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000
the mindset of like I'm doing 
this training session that it 

577
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,600
lasts me 45 minutes or so, or an
hour that just the the almost 

578
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,000
like the mental capacity to go 
through that was fatiguing, as 

579
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,400
weird as it sounds. 
But yeah, to me there was more 

580
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,600
detrimental than not to me the 
best things that you could be 

581
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:25,300
doing on your off days, are Off 
of your feet and then maybe at 

582
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:29,800
most like going through like 
Mobility or deep end range. 

583
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,900
Isometrics is something. 
I'm a big fan of like those 

584
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,300
types of movements would be 
like, that would be where I 

585
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:40,700
would cap it. 
Okay, so on the isometrics, 

586
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:41,900
like, how do you feel about 
those? 

587
00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:45,100
Because to me, especially if 
you're going and range and 

588
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:49,600
depending upon the intensity, 
that's to me, that's that's very

589
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,200
taxing, on the central nervous 
system. 

590
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,000
And so, I mean, I've seen guys, 
you know, post about doing 

591
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000
isometrics every day, even when 
they're fatigued like 

592
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,900
long-duration, Max intensity. 
And they just wrote out there, 

593
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:04,200
they're down face. 
Yeah. 

594
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,600
And then their body adapted 
recovered because Well, this is 

595
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,100
this is another say, this is a 
little another tangent that I 

596
00:33:12,108 --> 00:33:16,400
think is related, but like, are 
you familiar with bondarchuk 

597
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,500
system? 
Not really. 

598
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:20,100
No. 
Okay. 

599
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,300
Because I looked into it and I 
found it to be super interesting

600
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:27,400
partially because, you know, the
whole premise of his stuff is 

601
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,700
transfer of training, at least 
as I understood it. 

602
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:34,700
But his big thing was not wave, 
loading volume and volume and 

603
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:37,800
intensity and just keeping that 
consistent for it. 

604
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:42,100
Training phase and it made sense
in the sense that it allowed the

605
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,400
system in the body to actually 
adapt to that stimulus and get 

606
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,500
the the greatest adaptation out 
of it. 

607
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:52,000
So like if you if you do the 
same thing day in and day out 

608
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,300
your body's going to adapt to 
it. 

609
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:57,300
Even if even if at the beginning
you absolutely get crushed by 

610
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,300
it. 
The system will eventually be 

611
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:04,100
able to catch up because nothing
is not a lot is changing in 

612
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,600
terms of the volume and 
intensity, generally speaking. 

613
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,199
And so I just wonder if that was
kind of maybe the reason why 

614
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,600
they were able to ride it out 
because they were just doing 

615
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,100
five minute I sews. 
And the session was pretty much 

616
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:23,699
the same every single day and 
then eventually the body just 

617
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:27,400
super compensated and they were 
able to actually have a benefit 

618
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,800
from that. 
Yeah, to me I always cap like 

619
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,199
Max effort isometrics. 
I usually cap met about, four to

620
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,500
five seconds. 
That's it. 

621
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:37,699
Yeah man. 
I've done. 

622
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:41,600
Like the long duration, high 
intensity isos, those things are

623
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:47,100
crazy, but what yeah what's 
weird about him is you get you 

624
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:51,100
definitely feel that Central 
fatigue but I never really felt 

625
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:55,000
like the next day at least 
peripherally fatigue. 

626
00:34:55,100 --> 00:35:00,600
I never really felt soreness and
and that was an interesting 

627
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,100
thing and I'll be 100% honest, I
have no clue what is going on 

628
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:08,500
there because everything that 
I've read in research, Shows 

629
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,600
that none of this shit should be
working. 

630
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,500
It's like maybe you'll see some 
tendon stiffness gains maybe 

631
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:18,400
you'll see some muscle fascicle 
length gains but to me there's 

632
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,200
just not much research out there
on it. 

633
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,900
So I've talked to Chris 
Beardsley about it at length and

634
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,400
he's always like I got nothing 
for you Bill. 

635
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,200
I'm sorry. 
There's just nothing written 

636
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,900
about them. 
So but they are interesting and 

637
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:34,200
like you said, you do have to 
watch it with those like, when 

638
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,200
it's a recovery day, man, take 
off like Do something else. 

639
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:41,400
We're human beings, we're not 
robots. 

640
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,100
So as much as we want to make 
it, our job to be great, 

641
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:50,200
baseball players or whatever. 
It's like you will be a better 

642
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,000
baseball player if you are a 
better human being first, if 

643
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
you're exposed to a lot of 
different things in your life, 

644
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,500
and that you're enjoying life. 
Because if your life is 

645
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:04,200
miserable, it will impact your 
baseball performance auton, 

646
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
especially because baseball is 
such a like a mentally grueling 

647
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,700
game. 
As it is. 

648
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:13,400
So to me on those off days, man,
like let yourself be off. 

649
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:15,500
That's to me the best way to do 
it. 

650
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Absolutely, you know those those
some great points belt. 

651
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:26,400
Another thing I wanted to touch 
on was in terms of, you know, 

652
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,600
not just off days but like the 
balance between off season 

653
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,700
versus in season. 
How does that? 

654
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,100
How does you know, training very
in your world when it's off 

655
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,700
season versus in season? 
That's another tough one. 

656
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:47,100
Something that I've been 
wrestling with in my head 

657
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,700
lately, especially because this 
is the time of year that this is

658
00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:55,600
a big problem. 
I don't really care to put a bar

659
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,000
on a kids back anymore, like 
there's some athletes or I think

660
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,100
they just love doing the reverse
lunge. 

661
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,800
That's fine. 
We're going to do it all off 

662
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,100
season, but the more off seasons
and then in Seasons that I've 

663
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,900
been through the more I've 
started to notice, huh? 

664
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Like when we really try to keep 
that reverse, Each lunge regret 

665
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,800
Max high in season the less 
unless it really works like it's

666
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,500
just. 
So I usually try to take the bar

667
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:26,500
off kids back, so now we did it 
last season and it seemed to 

668
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:29,100
work pretty well and I'm 
planning on doing it again. 

669
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,900
But other than that I guess as 
far as like volume and exercise 

670
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:37,000
selection is concerned. 
I'll definitely cut down the 

671
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,000
volume because there's no real 
point in trying to push for more

672
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,900
power. 
Patients like doing 10 sets of 

673
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:49,700
jumps. 
Probably isn't necessary in the 

674
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:53,500
in season but it might be a 
necessary in the offseason or to

675
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,400
improve power output. 
So maybe I would cap it at like 

676
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,800
half of that maybe five or six 
sets of three jumps. 

677
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:07,300
And then as far as like just in 
general exercise selection, I 

678
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:11,100
would probably push for a little
bit more load in those High 

679
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:15,800
Velocity movements. 
Because I know like one of the 

680
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,700
first things to go when I track 
like force velocity profiles 

681
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,600
with guys like so heavy load, 
medium load and light load 

682
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,400
different things. 
Usually the thing that goes in 

683
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,700
season first is the force and do
that like force velocity 

684
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,800
profile. 
So I try to do more stuff with 

685
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,700
like a five or six pound 
medicine ball or slightly over 

686
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:42,500
lightly, loaded medicine, or 
dumbbell jumps and and maybe 

687
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:45,000
even Like work with some 
resistance printing stuff like 

688
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,200
that. 
I've noticed has been 

689
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:50,000
beneficial. 
Let's see what else. 

690
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,000
So I just wanted to ask a quick 
question on that yet. 

691
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,900
So when you're talking about the
foresight, are you talking? 

692
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,700
Like, for example, speed 
strength or strength speed? 

693
00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,900
They're like on the on the 
Continuum. 

694
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,400
What are you? 
What do you mean by the 

695
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,200
foresight? 
Are you talking max strength? 

696
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,000
It doesn't sound like it. 
It sounds like you're talking 

697
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,300
more like speed strength or 
strength speed there. 

698
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,200
It's more like speed strength I 
guess is where it Fall in the 

699
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,400
Spectrum. 
So the way I do a force velocity

700
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,000
profile, I guess I should have 
said that is so I'll do like 12 

701
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,500
pound medicine ball, throw an 
eight pound and a four pound 

702
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:28,600
ball throw and each one sort of 
represents a different side of 

703
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,300
the force velocity Spectrum. 
So if you're really bad at that 

704
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,300
12 pound ball, but you're great 
at the four pump. 

705
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:35,600
Oh, yeah. 
We'll do a lot. 

706
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,900
More Force production work. 
And if we do touch a medicine 

707
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:42,100
ball, it will be a slightly 
heavier medicine ball for you. 

708
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:45,800
Whereas Like the opposite is 
like me or I'm great with that 

709
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,000
heavier Ball but I suck with the
light one. 

710
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,100
So I'm going to do a lot of 
high-velocity work in my 

711
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,600
training. 
It's a super simple way that 

712
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,300
I've found Works in my brain, 
but yeah, like so by and large a

713
00:39:57,308 --> 00:40:01,300
lot of times guys will lose like
that sort of like the speed 

714
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:05,300
strength, like, a fast movement.
That's slightly loaded, seems to

715
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:10,300
work really well in season, but 
but the more I thought about it,

716
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:12,600
as I mentioned, I've been 
wrestling with this concept. 

717
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,800
Depth and it's like the cut. 
The, the comment that I always 

718
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,900
get as well. 
They're already getting all 

719
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,500
their reps in their practices 
and in their games, and it's 

720
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:26,100
like, well, are they, are they 
really getting the same rep? 

721
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,600
The same quality of rep that 
they were in the offseason where

722
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
it's like? 
Okay, I know if we track your 

723
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,500
bat speeds, I know they're all 
above 70 in all your training 

724
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,700
reps. 
There's so many times in season 

725
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:39,900
and this is fine because guys 
are trying to figure out how to 

726
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:42,900
hit real pitching. 
But there's so many times and Is

727
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:46,300
where those bat speed drop. 
We're throwing velocities drop 

728
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:49,800
where we're just not putting the
same stress on the body as we 

729
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,300
were before. 
So over time that speeds and 

730
00:40:53,308 --> 00:40:56,600
velocities Begin to Fall, I feel
like because of that so there 

731
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,200
does have to be a component at 
the very least track something 

732
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,600
over the course of the season to
make sure that you're not losing

733
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,800
that high velocity and of the 
equation. 

734
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,500
So it's a very tough thing. 
But again, it would always roll.

735
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,900
Back to what I would be doing in
that warm up where it's like, 

736
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:19,500
okay we're going to track a 
high-velocity movement and I 

737
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,600
know where your numbers have to 
be in order for you to train 

738
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,300
today. 
And then if your numbers are 

739
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:28,300
looking good and they're where 
they should be, I contracted 

740
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:31,000
over the course of the whole 
season and make sure that you're

741
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,900
maintaining those levels of 
power development at all like a 

742
00:41:34,908 --> 00:41:37,900
high velocity. 
So that's I guess like the main 

743
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:42,300
thing that I would say if you're
tracking where you gained all 

744
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,100
offseason, Even then you should 
be able to maintain your power 

745
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:49,600
development as well, but I guess
then the last thing is like, you

746
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,200
know, how do you fit in that 
sort of that injury prevention 

747
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,800
stuff. 
And I think Garrett you're 

748
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,300
talking about it before about 
how it's a lot of like, tissue 

749
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,400
preparation type stuff. 
And so maybe instead of working 

750
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,300
at with a ton of high-velocity 
Rapid torso, deceleration 

751
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:10,800
drills, maybe we can slow it 
down a little bit but still 

752
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,900
expose those tissues to 
something that it is stressful 

753
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,200
enough to adapt to it. 
And that's where I think. 

754
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,900
Like some eccentric, Smite work 
really well. 

755
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:21,500
Isometrics can do a pretty good 
job there as well. 

756
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:25,300
You have to monitor your fatigue
though, but I do think that 

757
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:29,200
those could be good movements to
add more of in season in, you 

758
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,200
know, of volume that would make 
sense for the athlete. 

759
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Well, for me, the way that what 
you describe the whole reason 

760
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,500
why I think you need to add a 
little bit of load, is that at 

761
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:46,200
some level during the midpoint 
of the season, your system has 

762
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,900
gotten adapted to whatever the 
volume and intensity that you're

763
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:54,600
doing stuff at. 
And then you actually start a 

764
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,900
level of detraining because now 
the stimulus you like the system

765
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:00,500
is adapted to it. 
It's no longer responding to it.

766
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:04,200
And to me when you add that Oh 
din again of like a little bit 

767
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,800
of weight, now you're creating a
training stimulus and that that 

768
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,600
again helps with your 
proprioceptive field. 

769
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,300
To me this is this is like 
thinking about the the training 

770
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:15,400
residuals. 
And like, how long do you hold 

771
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,700
onto certain training, 
residuals? 

772
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,900
And what do you need to do to, 
actually keep those up? 

773
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:24,200
And I think it to me, it's the 
basic principle that you kind of

774
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,900
touched on of adaptation. 
So are you Are you have you 

775
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:31,500
adapted to this or you Mel 
adapted to it? 

776
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:35,400
Or are you starting to D train? 
And so we need to actually add 

777
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,800
some sort of stimulus actually 
cause some growth and like 

778
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,300
things like eccentric. 
Isometrics these are different 

779
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:46,100
ways to actually stimulate the 
the system to to create an to 

780
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:49,400
drive a new adaptation. 
Because that's that's where for 

781
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,800
me I think I should be swinging 
way to bats a little bit to in 

782
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,500
season, simply to add that 
stimulus to allow the bat 

783
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:03,600
because eventually the bat feels
may feel like just to like any 

784
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,400
old thing and then maybe it 
starts to feel heavy. 

785
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,900
But if you if you continually or
consistently introduced a way to

786
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:13,100
bat in there, then hopefully it 
feels like you're always able to

787
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:16,900
manipulate your game bat and be 
able to feel like that you can 

788
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:21,300
swing that thing super fast. 
And so to me, that's why I 

789
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:25,000
think, you know something like 
what you're describing on the 

790
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,700
hitting side or even on the 
baseball side. 

791
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:30,600
And this is why guys, I think 
especially Bullpen guys but just

792
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,100
any, any pitcher likes throwing 
with weighted balls, a little 

793
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,700
bit as part of their warm-up 
because it because it does give 

794
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:41,100
the you that effect and I guess 
I would be curious your take on 

795
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:44,500
this to of how that helps with 
your proprioception and your 

796
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,100
feel when you do stuff like 
that. 

797
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,100
Yeah man I was I was just 
thinking about how At that idea,

798
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:55,400
is of just like, I feel an 
Implement that as a little bit 

799
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,100
heavier, than what I'm used to. 
I'm working against it. 

800
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,400
I know how to produce Force 
against the that's 

801
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,200
proprioception. 
I know how to produce Force 

802
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,000
within the confines of this 
movement. 

803
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:09,400
So, yeah, that to me, that's a 
genius idea. 

804
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,000
The problem is is, you know, in 
baseball it's like it the higher

805
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,700
the level you go, the more 
advanced with these Concepts, 

806
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,200
you want to get. 
But then the more resistance 

807
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,900
Come across. 
And it's like, nobody wants to 

808
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:25,800
touch it down, weighted ball and
season, unless that's what 

809
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,300
they're comfortable with, you 
know. 

810
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:29,900
So I guess it's the end of the 
day. 

811
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:34,100
It's like if you have a guy 
who's very comfortable with 

812
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:38,200
experimenting or very 
comfortable with just in general

813
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,100
like a weighted that Implement 
like there's a lot of guys that 

814
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:44,300
you find in pro baseball or even
in college that I don't want to 

815
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:47,900
touch those Driveline batsman. 
They they fuck up my swing bro. 

816
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:52,500
It's like okay like then I Guess
we won't touch the those bats, 

817
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,000
you know, because at the end of 
the day, that's they have to 

818
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,500
perform well. 
And I do think that there is 

819
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:04,100
something to that concept of. 
Like when the bat feels light in

820
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:07,000
your hands, you have a lot of 
confidence of a plate. 

821
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,300
So, I guess. 
Whatever training you needed to 

822
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,900
do to create that type of 
confidence would be extremely 

823
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,400
valuable. 
It could just be as something as

824
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,600
similar as hey, make sure your 
grip strength is high, like 

825
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,800
adding a couple things of grip. 
Over the course of the week make

826
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,900
sure you keep that it could be 
something that's simple, but it 

827
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:26,900
could be something like you had 
mentioned a little bit more 

828
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,800
advanced with like a slightly 
weighted Implement his that's to

829
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,400
me. 
That's how I would approach it. 

830
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,600
But there's you're going to come
across a lot of resistance, 

831
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,700
that's for sure. 
Well into one of the things that

832
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:45,400
I heard talking with coach from 
Avila was he had used some of 

833
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,200
the command balls with, with his
guys and it worked well for the 

834
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,700
guys that didn't have. 
Um, and but the guys that did 

835
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:55,500
have command, it messed them up,
which, which, to me makes sense 

836
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,500
when I started thinking about it
more and it sounds similar to 

837
00:46:58,508 --> 00:47:00,000
what you're describing there 
with it. 

838
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,400
Like using a weighted ball or a 
way to bat and guys saying that 

839
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,800
know this stuff messes up my 
swing because this this kind of 

840
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,000
is a good segue into the into 
the motor learning stuff and you

841
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,700
because you have this idea of 
Attunement, guys being highly 

842
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:18,000
sensitive to their implements 
and when you when you are 

843
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,600
attuned using something, Is a 
little bit heavier or lighter, 

844
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,400
you're really sensitive to that 
and then that actually makes you

845
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,500
less sensitive to the, your game
Implement. 

846
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,700
Whereas guys who don't have the 
sensitivity to their game, 

847
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:37,800
Implement may actually benefit 
from using, you know, something 

848
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,900
a little bit heavier, something 
a little bit lighter because 

849
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:44,200
then it makes makes it more, 
Salient, or obvious to them. 

850
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,900
What is unique and they have 
more sensitivity to their actual

851
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,300
game Implement. 
Yeah. 

852
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,900
So, I think that's, that's an 
important piece with this of, 

853
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:57,600
like, to your point. 
We should be individualizing all

854
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,700
this stuff. 
But, you know, one of the things

855
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:04,600
that you were saying about how 
people find the stuff to be way,

856
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,200
too advanced. 
It's like these Concepts though 

857
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,300
are so incredibly simple. 
Like we're just talking about 

858
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,700
adaptation. 
Yeah and understanding basic 

859
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:16,400
things of like the said 
principle specific adaptation to

860
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,400
imposed demands I might have 
screwed up the ass but there's 

861
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,300
there's One. 
I'm trying to think there's 

862
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:24,600
Progressive overload, like 
these. 

863
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,300
These are like, really, really 
simple ideas and Concepts and 

864
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:33,300
it's, I don't know in some ways,
it's like, if we can, just even 

865
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,200
run with some of these very 
simple ideas. 

866
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,100
Like, for example, the capacity 
thing that I took from 

867
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:41,300
functional range conditioning 
and dr. 

868
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:45,700
Andrea ospina, like, if if the 
if the demand or the load 

869
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:47,500
exceeds the capacity, then 
you're going to get injured. 

870
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:49,100
Like it's kind of a simple 
thing. 

871
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:52,700
But if your capacity Feeds, the 
loader, the demand. 

872
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:57,000
You have injury prevention and 
so To me. 

873
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,500
That's these are like very basic
concepts. 

874
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:01,600
Yeah. 
That I try to boil things back 

875
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,000
to. 
And ask the question of like, 

876
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,500
okay, what is going to be asked 
of this athlete? 

877
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:09,100
Like I want to know how many 
throws my in my middle infielder

878
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,700
or my, to a middle infielder, 
who is also a pitcher. 

879
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:14,300
Like, how many throws does he 
have in a season? 

880
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,700
Well then my on-ramp, he needs 
to throw that much where I need 

881
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:20,700
to have him throw more than what
he's going to throw. 

882
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,200
Once he gets into practice. 
So that we don't have any issues

883
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,700
as far as You know arm soreness 
and all that sort of stuff for 

884
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,000
going on the DL because his 
shoulder hurts. 

885
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,900
Yeah. 
Now yeah that's a great point 

886
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:39,100
and I guess as far as like off 
season versus in season concerns

887
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:43,400
go like I never want any 
athlete. 

888
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,700
I trained to walk into their 
season and like feel like it's a

889
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:51,800
huge spike in workload like it 
should feel the same that's at 

890
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,600
like at best it should feel like
this is easy to go through. 

891
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,200
Know what I mean? 
I guess where things get muddy 

892
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:02,900
is when team start to do a lot 
of like extra conditioning type 

893
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:06,200
stuff, dude, even at the pro 
level, I've had two guys now. 

894
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,700
Head out to spring training, 
both of them had to do some sort

895
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:12,100
of, like, a crazy conditioning 
test. 

896
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:15,100
Like one of them had to do a 
five lap test around the field. 

897
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,600
The other one had to do like, a 
300-yard shuttle at the 

898
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,400
beginning and end of practice 
that day and it's just like, oh 

899
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,000
my God, like I don't know if I 
have the will Well, to start 

900
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,600
conditioning guys for that, but 
other than those things like it.

901
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,000
But but even then like those 
guys, I think they're so well 

902
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,400
adapted to training in general, 
just training at high 

903
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,900
intensities that they kind of 
bounce back pretty quick. 

904
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,600
No, they didn't do great in 
those tests necessarily, but 

905
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,200
they were able to, you know, 
come back, fine the next day. 

906
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,300
And, you know, they're playing 
baseball where as somebody who 

907
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:56,500
is just, you know, kind of has 
done a little bit of Training 

908
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:58,700
and some mobility and nothing 
else. 

909
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,500
They haven't been running at 
all. 

910
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:03,400
Like they haven't been sprinting
or anything, they probably would

911
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,400
go and do a test like that and 
be absolutely torched or three 

912
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,000
or four days after that that 
would be my take at least but 

913
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,300
yeah. 
And to kind of build off that to

914
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,700
what Garrett was mentioning 
earlier and what bill is mr. 

915
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:22,700
Bill is talking about how pro 
ball guys, who are more, you 

916
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:26,600
know, in a sense adaptable or 
understanding kind of these 

917
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,700
Concepts, whereas Garrett says, 
you know, the high school guys 

918
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:33,600
that you go players really don't
know what's going on being, you 

919
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,200
know, around a weight room. 
What can we do? 

920
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:41,800
You know, in the education world
to tell these High School junior

921
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,300
college guys? 
Here's what we need to work on. 

922
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,100
Is there some way that that's 
possible? 

923
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:52,400
So those guys can have a better,
understanding one. 

924
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:58,900
And then two, in the literal 
sense, like the players want to 

925
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:02,500
be want to be able to do these 
types of things. 

926
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,500
Can we do something to promote 
that? 

927
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:09,300
Yeah, at something went Garrett,
just did like, the couple 

928
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:11,700
minutes ago was great. 
How he was able to say like, 

929
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,900
yes. 
These concerts might sound 

930
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:18,000
advance and it but in reality, 
they're very simple. 

931
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,600
This is, you know, like this is 
injury prevention, you can 

932
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,900
handle the loads of your sport 
and so I think having those 

933
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:29,300
types of conversations a lot 
with athletes sort of makes it 

934
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:31,800
known to them like these are 
your end goals. 

935
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:36,600
You can handle the demands of 
your sport or your more powerful

936
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,300
for your sport. 
We're trying to hammer one of 

937
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:43,600
those two things with this 
exercise right now. but I think 

938
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,400
to when it comes to like, Sort 
of getting stuff to fit with 

939
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,800
that bleats I have found the 
best thing is hey how'd you like

940
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,100
that exercise like that? 
Super simple. 

941
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:59,600
Question is probably going to 
get you more information than 

942
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,000
anything that we could talk 
about here today. 

943
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:04,700
Hey how'd you like that? 
Okay cool, you liked it. 

944
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,200
We're going to keep doing that, 
you know. 

945
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,500
Like maybe we'll do it at this 
point during the week or maybe 

946
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:13,400
we'll do it three four, five 
times a week and then you know, 

947
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,700
obviously always talking about 
like the end goal with the This 

948
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:19,500
is where I think you can be in 
three, four months. 

949
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,100
This is where I think you should
be by the end of the offseason 

950
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:25,100
stuff like that. 
I think that's another concept 

951
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:27,300
like that's a sort of spark 
something in my mind that 

952
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:30,300
doesn't get talked about enough,
the concept of progressive 

953
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,600
overload and you know most 
people understand it is just put

954
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,000
more weight on the bar but 
there's so many more things like

955
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:40,100
something. 
I've seen a lot of lately that I

956
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:44,200
like a lot is I've started to 
see some people who take, I 

957
00:53:44,207 --> 00:53:46,000
think they have like a 45 pound 
bar. 

958
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,800
On their back or maybe they're 
holding it like dirt your style 

959
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,300
and they rotate back and forth 
and they can stop that. 

960
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:54,400
Barn a dime and I'm like yeah 
that that's crazy. 

961
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,200
I think I might have. 
So like Trevor Bauer doing it or

962
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,300
something, I'm like that's nuts.
Like let me try that and I tried

963
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,100
doing it. 
I could not stop the bar to save

964
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:05,600
my life and so I'm like, holy 
shit like Progressive overload 

965
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,700
with that exercise is not 
necessarily. 

966
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:10,200
I can hold a 45 pound bar and do
the exercise. 

967
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,900
Its that I can stop that bar on 
a dime. 

968
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,100
So, you know, like when we do 
these movements, Not just about 

969
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,000
do the same load at the same 
speed. 

970
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,900
I want to increase the speed, I 
want to increase my ability to 

971
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,300
control that load in that 
deceleration fate. 

972
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,400
There's so many ways that we 
should be trying to progress 

973
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,500
athletes with. 
And I think that starts with a 

974
00:54:29,508 --> 00:54:32,200
conversation, this is what we're
doing today. 

975
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:35,600
I'm glad you like this exercise,
but this is where I want you to 

976
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:41,100
be in 3-4 months. 
And I think that's super 

977
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,000
important. 
The other thing that for me, 

978
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:45,800
when it comes to Progressive 
overload and I go back to 

979
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:49,600
bondarchuk kind of really 
highlighted it for me and then 

980
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,200
just looking back at other 
things that say, for example, I 

981
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,900
read from Bret Contreras and 
some of his work was that the 

982
00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:00,200
way that you can create the 
adaptation and to me, one of the

983
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,800
safer ways to create the 
adaptation with Progressive 

984
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,900
overload is to potentially, just
keep the volume and the load the

985
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:10,000
same. 
Like to me, there's There's, you

986
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,900
greatly reduce the risk of 
injury, because I think a lot of

987
00:55:12,908 --> 00:55:15,200
people think Progressive 
overload is exactly how you 

988
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200
stated it. 
Bill of like each week, you're 

989
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,500
adding more weight to the bar 
and sometimes the system can't 

990
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:26,300
like those jumps, especially if 
you add five pounds every week 

991
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:30,100
or ten pounds, you know, putting
a 5 on either side eventually 

992
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,200
that jump when it was like a 5% 
increase as it gets closer to 

993
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,700
your 1rm like that. 
Becomes, like a really, really 

994
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:38,900
huge increase. 
Yeah. 

995
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:42,900
And people don't realize that 
because early on it was like, oh

996
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:45,800
yeah I can make these big jumps 
and then all of a sudden the 

997
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
thing gets really heavy and now 
you're you're at greater risk of

998
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,400
injury because you're not 
actually prepared for that your 

999
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:57,200
body isn't and and that's where 
for me. thinking about 

1000
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,200
Progressive overload in terms of
adaptation like and to this goes

1001
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,800
to what I read with, Brett 
Contreras, have him talking 

1002
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,800
about power lifters and some who
had set World Records, not 

1003
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:17,600
lifting above 75% 1rm and to me 
that just like that just felt so

1004
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,700
anti everything that I've heard 
in a way of like strength 

1005
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:25,400
matters and so you need to lift 
heavy all the time and to me It 

1006
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,600
is not, it's not light but it's 
not super heavy either. 

1007
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,700
To me, anything, 80 or above is 
is considered heavy. 

1008
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,700
And so that was just really 
interesting to me that, oh, you 

1009
00:56:36,700 --> 00:56:40,900
can, you can actually increase 
strength working sub maximally. 

1010
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:46,000
And I think that conversation 
isn't always had as much or like

1011
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,400
recognized, when we're talking 
about how to progress somebody 

1012
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,200
and improve their, their power 
output or their strength. 

1013
00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:57,900
Yeah, no doubt and For me, I do 
a lot of velocity Based training

1014
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:02,400
work and so a lot of it is I 
want the speed at this load to 

1015
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,600
be here at the end of the 
offseason. 

1016
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,300
That's one of the conversations 
we like to have. 

1017
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:11,800
But yeah man, I think that's 
that, that's an unbelievably 

1018
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,300
important concept. 
There's so many kids that and so

1019
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:19,700
I see it in Javelin a lot. 
I only trained a few Javelin 

1020
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,300
throwers but the one thing that 
a lot of say is, oh yeah, this 

1021
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:27,700
guy, he threw 70 me. 
M 3 years ago, as a freshman and

1022
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:30,400
now he's a senior, any still 
throw 70, like he hasn't 

1023
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,300
surpassed it. 
He's mid-60s now or something 

1024
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,200
like that. 
There's so many kids now 

1025
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,700
thinking about it with baseball 
that they enter, you know, 

1026
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:43,000
college drawing 85 great. 
That's a good view of to be in 

1027
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,800
as a freshman if you gained 
literally a mile per hour per 

1028
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,500
year, you're knocking on the 
door to like any ball or 

1029
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:52,900
something like that, but so many
kids that they Peter out, they 

1030
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:56,800
don't really, you know, produce 
that Tations from their training

1031
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,300
and they don't really continue 
that climb and you know 

1032
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:04,100
rightfully so not everybody 
wants to play professionally. 

1033
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:09,100
I get it but man like there's 
there's a lot of adaptations to 

1034
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:11,500
be had out there that are Beyond
guess what? 

1035
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:14,900
You'll find in the squat rack. 
Bill. 

1036
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:18,100
I'm you brought up Javelin up, 
being the being alone. 

1037
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:20,300
Throwing guy here. 
I'm a I was really curious on 

1038
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,500
this. 
Is there anything that you've 

1039
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:26,000
picked up from like the javelin 
world that like, kind of opened 

1040
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,100
your eyes, help you train in the
baseball world. 

1041
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:30,500
I'm super curious that seeing 
that you've kind of dipped into 

1042
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:31,800
it. 
You start in the baseball, 

1043
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,800
right? 
You kind of dipped in the job 

1044
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,400
when I was super curious, if 
you've seen anything, that's 

1045
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,200
helped you in the Baseball 
World, probably the first thing 

1046
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,200
that like comes to mind is just 
in general using kpi's like in 

1047
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,900
general Evelyn for the longest 
time. 

1048
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:49,300
Like, you know, obviously 
America we suck. 

1049
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:53,000
But you know, like Eastern 
Europeans and Germans. 

1050
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,800
They've been throwing medicine 
balls for distance or like a 

1051
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,100
rocker, something they've been 
throwing shit for distance and 

1052
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:03,800
they do a lot of jumping tests 
and I think they'll do like some

1053
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,900
sprinting test as well. 
But like, there's so many people

1054
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,000
who do training that, in my 
opinion, I would never program 

1055
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,800
the shit that they do. 
But at the end of the day, 

1056
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,100
they're finding ways to improve.
Output in those types of 

1057
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:20,600
exercises where they can chuck a
med ball farther or they can 

1058
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,900
Sprint faster or jump more 
effectively over hurdles or 

1059
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:27,100
something like that. 
So they're testing things and I 

1060
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:30,100
remember learning that from 
Scott, though, the one javelin 

1061
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,000
throw a train. 
I'm like, oh that's such a 

1062
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,300
genius idea. 
I don't know why nobody's doing 

1063
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:36,900
this in baseball and there are 
people and there have been 

1064
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:39,600
people have been doing it for a 
long time, obviously, but that 

1065
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,300
concept was never very popular 
to me but another interesting 

1066
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,600
Sting one that I've gotten into 
a lot over the years is 

1067
00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:52,400
training, eccentric swith, the 
rear shoulders on, you know, 

1068
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,200
just like that, in general, 
being able to handle that 

1069
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,300
decelerate, of course, eccentric
overload exercises, and eat just

1070
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,900
eccentric strength in general is
really, really helpful, I think.

1071
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:08,300
And I kind of learned that 
through Javelin, it just, you 

1072
01:00:08,308 --> 01:00:11,100
know, in general seeing their 
training and stuff like that. 

1073
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,300
But then there's a some other 
stuff that I might not 

1074
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:17,000
necessarily agree. 
With like, they're huge and 

1075
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,600
pullovers over there in Germany.
And I, we do pullovers as well, 

1076
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,000
but they do them. 
I feel like if you ever watched 

1077
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,400
Johannes better do a pullover, 
you'll see what I mean. 

1078
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,200
It's like, alright, alright, 
bro. 

1079
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,500
Like, you don't have to do that 
necessarily that exact same 

1080
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:34,600
exercise but there's some wacky 
shit out there. 

1081
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,700
But I do think they have a lot 
of Concepts that are pretty 

1082
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:41,800
interesting and probably it one 
more that that sticks out to me 

1083
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,100
is the guy who just won this 
year. 

1084
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,200
New radish Oprah. 
He does like this medicine ball 

1085
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:53,200
throw where he contorts his body
way back and he's standing and 

1086
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,200
he can touch the ground behind 
him with the med ball, and throw

1087
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,400
this damn thing like 60 feet. 
And I tried doing it the other 

1088
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,400
day because I watched a video of
him doing it. 

1089
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,200
He started it from a kneeling 
position and he could get the 

1090
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,000
ball back to the ground. 
I put a bucket that was maybe 

1091
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,100
like a like a tall baseball 
bucket and I put it right behind

1092
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:15,800
me. 
Me and I did it kneeling and I 

1093
01:01:15,808 --> 01:01:19,300
could not touch the bucket, the 
top of the, of the bucket. 

1094
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,900
So I still have like two and a 
half feet to get to the ground 

1095
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:25,200
but I'm just like, huh. 
That is incredible. 

1096
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,600
And you know it's something 
that's like if my spine and my 

1097
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,200
whole body was free to move the 
way that is is and to be 

1098
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,100
forceful through that full range
of motion. 

1099
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,100
Maybe I would be a pretty good 
throw or two you know. 

1100
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:42,600
So there's some constants there 
that I think are really really 

1101
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,100
important like me. 
Red's is training sucks. 

1102
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,800
I'll be honest. 
It's just like, he takes his 15 

1103
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,800
pound weights and just lunges 
and stuff like that, but if you 

1104
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,900
ever dig into some of his stuff 
on YouTube, maybe some of the 

1105
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:59,000
stuff he doesn't post about on 
Instagram or whatever, but he 

1106
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,100
there is some very cool stuff 
that he does. 

1107
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:04,100
Like he's able to get over like 
these four foot hurdles and it 

1108
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,500
looks like he's a bunny rabbit 
like that's incredible. 

1109
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:09,800
That's one of the main things, I
think a lot of throwers here, 

1110
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,800
don't do a lot of. 
Like, a lot of that the ability 

1111
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:17,200
to be a bouncy Strrrike mover. 
So, yeah, I guess that those 

1112
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,700
would be the main Concepts that 
I think would be impactful for 

1113
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:25,400
throwers year. 
Not so why why are you less 

1114
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:28,000
enthused about the the 
pullovers? 

1115
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:32,200
I just, I mean because it me 
looking into Javelin that seems 

1116
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:37,100
to be a staple and to the way 
that they really get their whole

1117
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:41,800
body into the pull over and they
don't to me, it doesn't look 

1118
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,900
like they get too full and 
range, it's you know what I 

1119
01:02:43,908 --> 01:02:44,200
mean? 
It. 

1120
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,800
Like they're doing like a hot 
half bicep curl, you know, you 

1121
01:02:46,808 --> 01:02:49,300
watch guys doing it girls. 
And it's not getting all the, 

1122
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,600
all the way to n range. 
Yeah, to me, I love utilizing 

1123
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,500
the stretch shortening cycle 
and, like, getting some bounce. 

1124
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,300
I'm much more of a fan of it. 
When we're actually moving 

1125
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:04,200
pretty fast. 
I feel that if it's if I got, 

1126
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,100
you know, three plates, and I'm 
just trying to like bounce this 

1127
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:09,600
thing back up. 
I feel it that's more damaging 

1128
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,000
for the stretch, shortening 
cycle than it is if I was doing 

1129
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,200
it with a light load, but I 
could actually Bang get out and 

1130
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:18,200
at least that thing and I think 
there is a decent amount of 

1131
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,200
research on that concept for 
jumping where you had guys who 

1132
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,400
are jumping with like super 
heavyweights. 

1133
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,800
And it wasn't really helpful for
their ability to jump in 

1134
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,000
comparison to band, assisted 
jumping which really help them 

1135
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,500
become more bouncy. 
So they're that that's an 

1136
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,800
interesting concept there but I 
don't know I feel like the 

1137
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,700
pullover is a good exercise that
we do it a lot but we'll do it 

1138
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:44,200
with like the deepest range that
we can get. 

1139
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,300
You and drive out of it, super 
fast. 

1140
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:49,200
That's the way that I like to do
it. 

1141
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,200
So we'll hook up the bar speed 
sensor for that one. 

1142
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,200
I'm not a fan of the way he does
it where he has like a spotter 

1143
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,600
like lifting it for him out of 
the bottom and he's just kind of

1144
01:03:58,607 --> 01:04:02,200
like bouncing the weight up and 
down, like it's fine. 

1145
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,300
It's working for him, go ahead, 
keep doing it. 

1146
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:07,800
But I feel that we have been 
doing a more effective way of 

1147
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,100
doing pullovers with with the 
guys that we've been training. 

1148
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,800
That's my ticket leaf. 
So then what like, what's your 

1149
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,900
take on the two biggest 
exercises for I guess? 

1150
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,100
Or it may be underutilized 
exercises. 

1151
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:24,800
For guys throwing hard? 
Good to me? 

1152
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,200
I would say as far as I 
understand it you got pullovers 

1153
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:33,400
and bench like those two. 
I think for your big primary 

1154
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,800
movers who have as I understand 
how they connect to the to the 

1155
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,600
humerus or, you know, our 
integrated around it. 

1156
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,600
Like those are kind of maybe 
you're too big primary movers. 

1157
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:45,800
Yeah. 
I mean those are fine. 

1158
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,000
Obviously those are good, but I 
would probably say you'd want to

1159
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,600
do something faster. 
Like I would say a medicine 

1160
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,800
ball. 
Chest pass for distance would 

1161
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,900
probably be even better, just 
because there's so much variance

1162
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:02,900
in how much, like pecs strength 
really matters versus Peck 

1163
01:05:02,900 --> 01:05:06,200
speed. 
You have to have fast pens. 

1164
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:09,800
And the problem is, the lats are
such a ginormous muscle. 

1165
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:13,100
If you ever look at any sort of 
research on them, like they're 

1166
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:16,900
not going to have A lot of those
fast like type 2 x fibers and 

1167
01:05:16,900 --> 01:05:18,500
stuff like that. 
So they're always going to be 

1168
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:22,500
this big donkey of a muscle. 
So I guess it's fine to train 

1169
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,900
them with a lot more strength, 
but I would still make sure 

1170
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:27,400
you're training them with a high
velocity movement in some 

1171
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,300
capacity, just to make sure that
those tissues are ready to 

1172
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:33,500
stretch really fast and then 
rebound back really, really 

1173
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:36,500
fast. 
So like, I like to do like a 

1174
01:05:36,508 --> 01:05:39,400
supine throw where we reach back
behind the head and Chuck the 

1175
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,300
shit on the ball. 
And I'll tell guys, like I want 

1176
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:45,500
you to literally reach back. 
And reverse this thing back as 

1177
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:49,700
fast as you possibly can. 
But yeah, I guess those are two 

1178
01:05:49,700 --> 01:05:52,300
really good ones, but the one 
that I would add in, for sure, 

1179
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:54,400
is something for the rear 
shoulder. 

1180
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,800
I get think that's where a lot 
of people like, oh, man, my 

1181
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,100
bench went up this month. 
Okay, cool. 

1182
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:02,800
Yeah, did you do you? 
Are you rowing more? 

1183
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:05,000
Are you stronger in an 
eccentric? 

1184
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,300
In any capacity? 
Probably not. 

1185
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:09,200
Because you haven't been 
training that shit. 

1186
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:11,900
So, I think, like, in some 
capacity, you should be training

1187
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:14,900
for the deceleration. 
Of a throw as well. 

1188
01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:17,600
Whether it's with a high-speed 
movement, something like a rapid

1189
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,000
catch type movement, or if it's 
something that's actually 

1190
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,200
eccentric overloaded. 
That's fine too. 

1191
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,300
What's what's your then? 
Your take on a, in a way I want 

1192
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,000
to say, triphasic. 
But I mean it's to me, it's kind

1193
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,700
of the principles of triphasic. 
I don't know if you're familiar 

1194
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:39,800
with any of this stuff. 
Not too much, to be honest. 

1195
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:45,100
I know the concepts and I think 
they're fine like like I think 

1196
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,900
but the way that I approach, The
Eccentric training is not so 

1197
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:52,400
much about just slowly lowering 
away to me at least at some 

1198
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,900
point Beyond a novice level. 
Will that it has to be an 

1199
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:57,700
eccentric overload, or at least 
very close to it. 

1200
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,700
So what are you delineating 
there? 

1201
01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:03,800
When you when you say e Centric,
overload versus just slowly 

1202
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,500
lowering the weight? 
Because at least, as I 

1203
01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:09,800
understand triphasic, he liked 
his extreme version is you're 

1204
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:15,200
going 120 percent of your 1rm 
and your and in this is where it

1205
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,400
gets to me like extremely crazy.
You don't just do that for The 

1206
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,600
Eccentric. 
You do that for the isometric to

1207
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:24,600
do - yeah. 
Okay that's That's, that's way 

1208
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,800
different like yeah. 
You know? 

1209
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,800
And you well, you produce very 
different adaptations when you 

1210
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:35,100
start to train like that too. 
But yeah, I would say like, from

1211
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,500
what I've always understood, 
triphasic is at least what I've 

1212
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,600
seen people doing. 
Online is like, oh, I have like 

1213
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:46,000
maybe 70% of my squat one rep 
max and I'm slowly lowering it 

1214
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,200
down. 
Like the one. 

1215
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,500
Can I train? 
Who was at Iowa State. 

1216
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:50,200
That's what they did. 
All the damn time. 

1217
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,200
And I'm just like, you've had a 
barn, your back now for Probably

1218
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,000
a total of 15 minutes today like
if you accumulated all the sets 

1219
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,600
of all the time and I'm just 
like, do we really need to have 

1220
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,600
a bar in your back for that long
today and then you got to go and

1221
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,900
throw tomorrow. 
If it's probably not the 

1222
01:08:05,908 --> 01:08:08,300
smartest idea. 
But there are some exercises 

1223
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:12,400
that I feel like could work well
in that type of a scenario. 

1224
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,399
Maybe. 
But yeah to me there's the way 

1225
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:18,300
that makes the most sense in my 
head. 

1226
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:22,000
When looking at the kinetic 
sequences, you have these spots 

1227
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,800
that have to accelerate spot Be 
super explosive and then spots 

1228
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,300
that have to decelerate and be 
able to stabilize on a dime. 

1229
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:33,000
And so when breaking it down 
like that I would say, yeah, I 

1230
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,200
probably wouldn't care so much 
about squatting so much as maybe

1231
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:42,100
doing like a like an extreme 
like we do reverse nordics, a 

1232
01:08:42,108 --> 01:08:45,700
lot where I'm actually pushing 
on the athlete, all the way down

1233
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:49,300
and we'll do nordics as well. 
Nordics are fine, but after a, 

1234
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:51,600
while you have to find a way to 
increase the load there, too. 

1235
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,399
So, but yeah, those R2 that I 
would say would be better than 

1236
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:59,200
doing an eccentric squat in my, 
in my opinion. 

1237
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:04,200
Ya know, it. 
The other thing that I touch on 

1238
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,200
to is for me like the posterior 
strength of the rotator cuff 

1239
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,600
because like okay, like I think 
you can do rose and I think 

1240
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,300
there's some benefit of doing a 
heavy eccentric row, but I just 

1241
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:20,300
don't know if it if it works. 
The, the throwing tissue as much

1242
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,100
like I know some guys do get 
sore in their trap and the 

1243
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:28,200
rhomboids like back in their 
scalp there that is a common 

1244
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,100
trigger point but I almost I 
wonder though that more at least

1245
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:36,700
for someone like myself, who has
struggled with with shoulder 

1246
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:40,200
injuries, like to me, it's my 
cuff and my rotator cuff and 

1247
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,100
doing heavy eccentric. 
Stuff for my cuff. 

1248
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:48,800
Specifically, I think is highly 
important but Being the fact 

1249
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,700
that it's oftentimes injured, 
like it doesn't take that much 

1250
01:09:52,700 --> 01:09:55,300
to overload it. 
And so where I go is I really 

1251
01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:59,900
like manual resisted stuff, 
whether it's isometric or 

1252
01:09:59,900 --> 01:10:04,600
eccentric and I actually think 
it's the best or done the best 

1253
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,200
when it's actually you doing the
input yourself because you can 

1254
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,900
you can take yourself right to 
that threshold, and the feedback

1255
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:16,800
is immediate for you. 
Whereas having done manual stuff

1256
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,200
for other guys. 
Guys, I've also or seen other 

1257
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,600
guys do manual stuff to other 
people. 

1258
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,300
It's like you have to be really 
careful as soon as you start 

1259
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:29,100
getting there and rage because 
like guys drop off super fast 

1260
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:32,100
and you all of a sudden just 
throw a ton of force in there. 

1261
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:34,000
When a guy is like at the end 
range in. 

1262
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,800
Yeah. 
And you're going to, you're 

1263
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,000
going to, you're going to really
hurt somebody shoulder. 

1264
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,300
And so to me, that end range is 
actually really important to 

1265
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:45,100
train and the best person who's 
going to be able to take you 

1266
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:46,700
right to the threshold as 
yourself. 

1267
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,600
Yeah, no. 
That's a good point. 

1268
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,000
I've never really thought about 
that. 

1269
01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:54,100
Yeah, it's definitely like, if 
you are using like, so I do that

1270
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:56,900
with my athletes. 
It takes a lot of feel, that's 

1271
01:10:56,900 --> 01:10:58,400
for sure. 
It probably takes at least a 

1272
01:10:58,407 --> 01:11:01,500
couple sessions where you really
start to get that, that hang of 

1273
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:05,300
it with each other. 
But yeah, either way though, I'm

1274
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:07,300
going to have to get to walk in 
my dog soon. 

1275
01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:10,700
In a couple minutes. 
Fair enough, the top of your 

1276
01:11:10,700 --> 01:11:14,100
guys heads right now before we 
head out No. 

1277
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:16,300
I mean I didn't even get to any 
of the E, Cody stuff. 

1278
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:20,300
I mean cuz like the thing that 
impresses me, the most is like 

1279
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,000
what you're doing with your 
hitters. 

1280
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,100
Like the fact that you're 
throwing live to hitters all 

1281
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:28,900
that sort of stuff. 
And I don't mean whether you 

1282
01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:32,600
realize it or not like that from
a motor learning standpoint and 

1283
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:38,500
the philosophy, or the framework
that I come from an ecological, 

1284
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:41,400
or from a motor learning side of
things and it being an 

1285
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,500
ecological approach like, that 
is very equal. 

1286
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,000
Vehicle. 
And part of having you on, it's 

1287
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,600
actually get into some of that. 
But yeah, we got, we got bogged 

1288
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,800
down in the weeds a little bit 
with the essence, see stuff? 

1289
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,700
I do actually want to touch on 
the about like live hitting and 

1290
01:11:56,700 --> 01:12:01,100
stuff like that. 
So when it comes to those live 

1291
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:06,100
at bats, like I feel that 
probably one of the most 

1292
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:09,100
important things for hitter is 
being comfortable, in the box 

1293
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,700
like that concept of 
comfortability that concept of 

1294
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:15,100
familiarity. 
A tea with the environment of a 

1295
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:19,300
ball being thrown from an arm at
you like that's it. 

1296
01:12:19,300 --> 01:12:23,000
Shouldn't feel like anything was
weird is happening. 

1297
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,800
When you, when you step in the 
batter's box. 

1298
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,100
Oh, yes, it's not necessarily 
the same as facing a real 

1299
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:32,200
picture, but the one thing I 
will say I'm super, super proud 

1300
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:40,000
of is every hitter that I train 
when they went into like their 

1301
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,400
first live at bats of the Year, 
we're like, pictures worth. 

1302
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,600
Going to them and stuff like 
that indoors, it was always like

1303
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:51,100
every single guy like looked 
super comfortable up there 

1304
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:55,100
whether they got a good base hit
or a double or anything or not. 

1305
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,700
They looked like they were not 
overmatched up at the plate and 

1306
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:02,500
that's that's it. 
That's a super important concept

1307
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:07,400
to me that when it comes to 
motor and learning like you have

1308
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,600
to get guys to base level first,
you have to get them to the 

1309
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,400
point where it's like, I know 
what this is. 

1310
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,200
Environment is I know how to 
handle the expectations of it, 

1311
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,600
whether it's fast reaction time 
or movement left and right. 

1312
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,900
Like, I know I can do it. 
I can I can handle it. 

1313
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,700
Okay, now it's time to keep 
learning. 

1314
01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,000
Now, it's time to keep 
progressing, but if that kid is 

1315
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,800
uncomfortable in the batter's 
box, the start with you, you've 

1316
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,900
already lost, they won't learn a
damn thing. 

1317
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,900
And so it takes in my opinion, a
lot of those short box live at 

1318
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:42,700
bat sometimes for guys to 
consistently feel that way, How 

1319
01:13:42,700 --> 01:13:48,500
many, how long is, or how many 
short box sessions or at bats or

1320
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:52,700
rounds? 
Do your guys get before they go 

1321
01:13:52,700 --> 01:13:54,900
into their season? 
Yeah. 

1322
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,200
Well a lot. 
Let's see. 

1323
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:03,000
So I did count it with the one 
kid he had, I think 440 at-bats 

1324
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,400
is what we kind of approximated 
over the course of the whole 

1325
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,900
offseason against me. 
So every time how many, what was

1326
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:13,200
the timeframe there then? 
It was it was for months. 

1327
01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:16,900
Yeah, I was a book, 100 people 
over 100 each each month there. 

1328
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:21,000
So, yeah, so every time we would
go, we go about once a week and 

1329
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,300
we get about 25 at-bats and so 
yeah. 

1330
01:14:24,300 --> 01:14:28,300
That was it was it was a lot of 
work with that one kid but I 

1331
01:14:28,308 --> 01:14:30,400
would say just about everybody's
getting, at least a couple 

1332
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,100
hundred and I've noticed it it's
extremely beneficial for like 

1333
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,700
the younger kids too. 
Because for the older guys. 

1334
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:41,100
I don't throw hard enough to 
where it's really challenging to

1335
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,900
them. 
So we move the plate up really 

1336
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:46,200
quick and we do funky stuff. 
But with the younger kids like 

1337
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,000
that, like I turn a freshman in 
high school. 

1338
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,700
This is the exact same pitching 
that he's facing. 

1339
01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:54,400
It's like mid-70s and it's kind 
of straight. 

1340
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,300
Sometimes it moves, sometimes it
doesn't and he is just been 

1341
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,800
dicking on the ball like this 
off season now. 

1342
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,900
So I'm really happy about that. 
But yeah I mean just like think 

1343
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,800
about like this if you're an 
alien who crash-landed on Earth 

1344
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:12,400
and you're just going to study 
baseball players And look at the

1345
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,900
things that what do all great 
based baseball players? 

1346
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:17,800
Do like, what are the common 
factors? 

1347
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:21,000
And like, obviously, they rotate
fast and they can handle all 

1348
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
these demands of their Sport and
stuff like that. 

1349
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,800
We talked about, but probably 
the one thing that they've all 

1350
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,500
done. 
A lot of is that they played the

1351
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:29,500
game of baseball more than 
everybody else. 

1352
01:15:29,700 --> 01:15:33,000
Like Justin Verlander probably 
has thrown more pitches than 

1353
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,100
anybody on the planet, like or 
very close to it, you know, or 

1354
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:40,700
like Ichiro Suzuki has probably 
accumulate more at-bats in his 

1355
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:45,000
life than Buddy, you know, ever.
So it's like these, you know, 

1356
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,700
these young Dominican kids that 
are coming in and we all turn 

1357
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:50,100
the world on fire and stuff like
that. 

1358
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:53,600
Like they played baseball a lot 
at a high level since they're 

1359
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,900
like 14 years old, like they've 
seen fast pitching, they've seen

1360
01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:00,400
crazy good players and what the 
expectation is and stuff like 

1361
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,800
that. 
So talk about comfortability, 

1362
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,400
they're comfortable with it at 
that environment because that's 

1363
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,300
what they've been in. 
But they've also done it a lot 

1364
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:13,300
and that I think matters too. 
I couldn't agree more. 

1365
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:15,100
I love it Baker. 
You got anything? 

1366
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:17,400
Yeah, yeah didn't. 
Yeah, I was curious. 

1367
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,700
So I mean you could go maybe 
with some of the funky stuff 

1368
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:22,500
you're talking about but I saw 
you had like a three part series

1369
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:26,600
on adjustability and hitting and
any time I see a guy in the snc 

1370
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,300
world talk about that I find it 
really fascinating. 

1371
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:32,100
So is there anything I guess one
it could be the funky stuff 

1372
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:33,900
we're talking about or to like 
anything. 

1373
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:37,200
You may be doing more on the 
weight roomy side that's 

1374
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,200
increasing that. 
So I haven't seen these Series 

1375
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,700
so I don't know. 
And I said, what's in them? 

1376
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,700
No those are Doing. 
Yeah, you won't find too much 

1377
01:16:43,700 --> 01:16:45,300
about the essence esight, in 
there. 

1378
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:48,500
Other than kind of, like a 
concept that we talked about 

1379
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:52,500
earlier about, like, bat speed 
actually for the one guy that 

1380
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:54,300
are interviewed, it was huge for
him. 

1381
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Like he needs High bat speed in 
order to feel adjustable up late

1382
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,500
because he feels that if he 
doesn't have that bat speed, he 

1383
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:06,200
can't let his best swing rip and
he can't basically like what 

1384
01:17:06,300 --> 01:17:09,500
talks about he likes to be able 
to do is have the confidence to 

1385
01:17:09,500 --> 01:17:11,300
hook an outside pitch and hit it
out. 

1386
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,500
Those bull side and like the 
which is funny because it's the 

1387
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:19,600
exact opposite comment of what 
another guy interviewed talked 

1388
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,800
about with adjustability. 
Like he's like I need to take 

1389
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,600
that pitch inaudible approach. 
It, that's fine too. 

1390
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,200
But probably the biggest thing 
that I came to the conclusion of

1391
01:17:28,208 --> 01:17:32,000
with adjustability is have 
confidence in your approach. 

1392
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:37,200
If you do that and you obviously
like match plaintiff pitch for a

1393
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,100
long time and you're coming 
through fast, if you do those 

1394
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:42,500
two things. 
You're probably going to be 

1395
01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:45,600
pretty damn good but the moment 
that doubt starts to creep in, 

1396
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,900
whatever your approach is 
whether it's stay inside the 

1397
01:17:47,907 --> 01:17:50,600
ball or pull everything or 
whatever it is. 

1398
01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:54,500
If you doubt your approach, 
shit's going to go bad for you 

1399
01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:58,000
like real quick and both of them
talked about that like if I'm 

1400
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,000
not comfortable with what I'm 
doing it up at the box, it's not

1401
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,700
going to go well. 
So that was that's the main 

1402
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:07,500
concept of the series. 
So I think that's really cool. 

1403
01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:09,300
I think that's one thing we're 
seeing with our hitters right 

1404
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:12,100
now. 
Is that they Are sometimes going

1405
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:14,600
to the dish and weren't 
challenged enough in the cages 

1406
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,800
at times to have to have that 
Comfort ability that you're kind

1407
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,900
of talking about. 
And it just may be easier rounds

1408
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:23,700
or do, maybe you're doing some 
funky stuff. 

1409
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:28,000
Challenging, the capabilities of
the Swing, but they're not 

1410
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,500
actually being challenged in any
form a game like setting not 

1411
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:32,500
picking up the information. 
Like you're providing like 

1412
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:35,500
you're providing a really rich 
information information Rich 

1413
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:38,300
environment for your guys. 
So like I punched one applaud 

1414
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:40,600
you for that. 
And I when I saw just ability 

1415
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,700
and hitting Guy from this and 
sees how I was. 

1416
01:18:42,700 --> 01:18:46,300
I was stoked like that. 
That's not you don't see that 

1417
01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:49,100
very common. 
Well think that's often combine.

1418
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:53,700
That's cool. 
All right, well, I think I gotta

1419
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:56,700
go take the dog out. 
He's in the crate right now. 

1420
01:18:56,700 --> 01:19:01,200
She's been in the oh, no. 
Yeah, you definitely should go 

1421
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,000
get her and take her for a walk.
I'm sure she wants to get out 

1422
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,900
and and move around. 
Yeah, for sure I play Retreat to

1423
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,100
but to kind of wrap, are there 
any couple of things, any 

1424
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:15,300
resources that you would 
recommend, and they don't have 

1425
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:18,100
to be baseball related or 
strength, and conditioning 

1426
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,000
related. 
I guess I'll pump my books. 

1427
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,700
I have two books, throw fast and
swing fast. 

1428
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,000
I want to write a book about 
sprinting as well called Sprint 

1429
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,900
bass, but you know it's like got
to find time to write again 

1430
01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:35,800
covid. 
Relate because I could write 

1431
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,000
whenever I wanted basically but 
now things get busy again. 

1432
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,000
So I'll start learning stuff 
about sprinting maybe in the 

1433
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,700
next few years maybe sit down 
and read a book if I have time. 

1434
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:50,400
Sounds good. 
And then, where can people find 

1435
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,200
you if they want to connect with
you and and all that sort of 

1436
01:19:53,208 --> 01:19:57,300
thing on Instagram, Bill Miller,
training and Twitter at Bill 

1437
01:19:57,300 --> 01:20:00,200
Mills. 
I've answered EMS all the time, 

1438
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,700
like, is long as it's not a bot 
or someone trying to sell me 

1439
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:06,800
cryptocurrency or something. 
I will, I will answer. 

1440
01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:10,900
So I'll do my best to help with 
training in any way I can and 

1441
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,900
understand that. 
Like, and I know you guys get 

1442
01:20:13,900 --> 01:20:16,500
this, but I think a lot of 
people on social media don't 

1443
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:20,100
like, they see my persona, Is 
this like super serious guy like

1444
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,600
it's all nuts and bolts the 
training and it's like, I hate 

1445
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,100
about that. 
I'm super open. 

1446
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,800
I'm always down to be wrong. 
Like I'm fine with it. 

1447
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:31,000
Should I learn stuff from you 
today? 

1448
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,700
And it's just like, that's what 
it's about. 

1449
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:35,200
It's not about trying to be 
right today. 

1450
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,000
It's about trying to be all 
right. 

1451
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,300
Tomorrow, you know, try to be 
better and try to learn a lot. 

1452
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,500
And so yeah, any time anybody 
has comments or wants to tell 

1453
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:47,700
me, I soccer, whatever have at 
it, I'll be down to talk. 

1454
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,300
Oh sweet. 
Well, we appreciate that. 

1455
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:54,300
As far as like that, I have the 
same kind of mentality of, 

1456
01:20:54,700 --> 01:20:56,900
always trying to learn from 
everybody and even sometimes 

1457
01:20:56,900 --> 01:20:59,500
your greatest critics can 
actually be, you can learn 

1458
01:20:59,500 --> 01:21:02,100
something from them. 
If you can get past, the ad 

1459
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:07,400
hominem attacks that come with 
that, and so, yeah, appreciate 

1460
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,400
you taking the time to come chat
with us. 

1461
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,700
For sure, guys. 
Have a great night and I'll talk

1462
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:13,900
to you all. 
So very soon. 

1463
01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:16,700
Talk to you soon Bell. 
It was great. 

1464
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:19,500
Talking to you. 
Let me be the first to say that.

1465
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:20,900
You were great. 
Not terrible. 

1466
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,100
All right, sounds great guys. 
I'll talk to you.