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Brothers and sisters, welcome back to the most exciting hour
that you're going to hear all week.
I'm telling you this right now because the Hall of Famer
himself, Mr. D Von Dudley, five time Hall of Famer, the Hall of
Famer in the WWE and TNA, he is not afraid of any North Carolina
puffed up overstuffed tag team wrestler who thinks he's hot
stuff because he can shoot his mouth off on the Internet.
And I'm telling you on this week's episode of Devon and the
Duke, we're going to get some things straightened out.
Matt Hardy, turn the volume up, tell the kids, hold on a second.
Quiet down. Uncle Devon has something to
say. So without further ado, the Hall
of Fame. I'm getting them in so much
trouble. Oh, my God.
I didn't even tell him I was going to do that.
I'm getting them in trouble here.
The Hall of Fame. Mr. Deepak Dudley.
What's up, brother? What's going on, man?
Listen, I don't work too into a shoot now, now what you going to
do? Oh no, I'm still trying to
think. Listen, this, this North
Carolina, this, this guy. And, and let me let me preface
this little bit because Matt Hardy, he's been doing his media
tour, him and his brother Jeff, who you know, you know them both
very, very well. You have battled them all over
the world. They're doing their media tours.
They're out there like there's some kind of singing group,
their jagged edge 2 point O or something out there singing
songs. You know, that song if I ever
fall in love again and all that stuff, they harmonizing and
stuff. I couldn't believe it.
I could not believe these guys are doing this kind of nonsense.
But this is what they've, they've done now, all right, to
generate some extra attention. And as soon as they get that
extra attention, Matt Hardy starts shooting his mouth off,
disrespecting Bubba, disrespecting Devon,
disrespecting all of Dudleyville by saying the Hardy Boys want
another match with the Dudley Boys.
And since the WWE and TNA have announced that they're doing a
partnership, Matt Hardy believes that this is the perfect time to
to bring it back one more time here.
So I got to ask you directly, Devon, because everyone's been
waiting to hear from you. You're, you're the only one they
haven't heard from yet about this.
Is it at least possible that the Hardy Boys deserve one more ass
whooping from the legends? The greatest of all time, the
Dudley Boys. You know the Hardys are going to
do their thing. You know the Dudleys are going
to do all things. But you know I can't.
It's hard for me to believe that Matt was really shooting off at
the mouth, you know? I, I, man.
And if he did, that hurts, you know, because I thought me and
Matt were closed. So for him to start talking crap
like that, if it means the Dudley boys, if it means me
coming out of retirement, getting back with Bubba, lace up
the boots one more time to whoop the Hardy's ass, then I guess it
had to be done. Just like Madison Square Garden,
Royal Rumble. Why not?
If we if, if there's if there is an opportunity for it to happen,
then I'll see why it shouldn't happen.
So you know, whoever wants to make that happen can make it
happen. And we'll see from there.
See this this North Carolina guy with his Bony backside as as you
would say his narrow behind took himself online and had the had
this to say. Well, good evening Bubba, thanks
for listening. We would love to have another
match or matches with you and Devon.
I'm sure TNA and WWE would both be cool with it since they're
officially partners now. Otherwise, I tread lightly since
we're undisputedly the most popular tag team of all time,
the most influential tag team of all time.
By the time we hang them up, we may be the most decorated tag
team of all time too. Hell, I'll take two out of
three. Jeff and I are fine staying in
our lane because it's leading to a destination that no tag team
has ever reached. Have a great night.
This this North Carolina guy talking to you New York fellas
like this? I don't know, Devon, I don't
know. Look, I in my opinion, the most
decorated tag team of all time is the Dudley Boys.
I don't see how Matt or Jeff can argue that.
Every company we've ever been in, we won the titles and won
them numerous times. We are 24 time world Tag team
champion and you can't take that away from us.
So as far as I'm concerned, when they wrap it up, when they hang
it up, they're still not going to be the most decorated tag
team in the history of this business.
I don't think I hear people going around saying that the
Hardys are the greatest tag team in the business or that was ever
in the business. But I do hear about the Dudleys.
You know, everything that we've accomplished has been something
that the people recognize and respect and I think maybe the
hardest need to learn how to respect that as well, especially
the ass weapons that we have given them over the years.
Now they want to come back and they want to talk crap.
If Matt truly said that, then whatever has to be done has to
be done. And we if we got to go one more
time, then we go one more time. That's what has to be done.
That's what I feel has to be done and and get rectified in
order to be known as the greatest tag team in the history
of this business. You know, you know, the the
problem is he's feeling himself. This Matt Hardy here, you know,
he, he he's got the lovely wife, he's got the lovely children.
Matt Hardy, you're not even he's not even the coolest guy in his
own household, but he has the audacity to disrespect you and
Bubba this way. Look.
I'm going to say this, say, Matt, I love you to death, man.
I really do. But I don't think you want to do
it one more time. Let's just call it a call it a
day. And you and Jeff will be known
as the second best tag team in the Business Today, not the
first, but I've always said the first would have to be LOD, the
Road Warriors. No question about that.
And I've always said that, but, and we, we've come in #2 that
nothing wrong would be #3 it's all right.
So you don't have to go out there and challenge the Dudley's
and saying, you know, one more match will solidify everything.
We've already done that. We've already beaten you and
Jeff, so there's no reason to even remotely try to prove who's
the better tag team. History tells the truth.
Not only that, but our record speaks for itself.
So that you can go online all you want, but you cannot, and
I'll say it again, you cannot deny who the greatest of all
time is. No one has ever, and I mean
ever, done what we've done in that ring and had the most
championships that A tag team could have.
Testify. My brother.
We're going to move on from from this, this Matt Hardy nonsense
here, Jeff. Jeff, your brother's getting you
in trouble, man. You better talk to him because
you know all that punishment that the Dudley's have dished
out to you over the years. You don't want that again.
Stop it. But hey, Matt, I love you.
Listen, this is 2025, man. We just started the year off and
it's already coming in hot. I can't believe it.
But Speaking of coming in hot,
we got a situation here where the WWE has just signed someone
who previously was in AEW by the name of Penta.
This young man, he was in Lucha Underground and AAA.
Very well respected and appreciated wrestling star.
Made his debut on Raw against Gable.
Wonderful first match and Gable shout out to him.
He he is truly a specimen in his own right and just the fact that
he was able to have a a fantastic match with Penta who
never wrestle in the WWE ring, WWE ring before that was really
special for both of those young men.
But Penta before his match even happened, Devon WWE released his
merchandise on the WWE shop website.
There not only shirts and things like that, but also masks and
Penta has shot up to become the number one merch seller, at
least for the time being in the WWEI mean the the response has
been tremendous. So I want to get your thoughts
on this. Because when he was in AW, they
weren't able to do that with Penta.
They weren't selling like hotcakes like that.
So from a business standpoint, Devon, what's your thoughts on
that? Just the WWE having the
foresight to know if we market this guy properly, we could
start making money and start making that contract money back
right out of the gate before the man even has his first match,
before he even appears on WWETB for the first time, we can
already start making money off of this guy.
What are your thoughts on that? Well, you know, bent to.
I don't know too much about him. I know enough to know that being
an AW was kind of like a place where he needed to start.
Now he's left AW, he's come to the WWE now.
This is this is it. This is, you know, this is as
far as I'm concerned, this is something that every pro, every
inspiring pro wrestler, when they get when they get in the
business, that's the place they want to work.
They want to go to WWEI don't know.
There's not one person out there that's in the business that can
honestly and truly say in their hearts that they don't want to
ever wrestle for the WWE. Now here's this he's been in AW
didn't get quite the reception or response that he got when he
entered WWE. But here's what I've we've
always been saying. It's all in how you promote an
individual. It's all in how you bring him
out and show him and showcase him.
Because remember, the first impression is always going to be
the one that stands out the most.
And if I'm not mistaken, AW has not done anything in terms of
merchandise and things like that with him.
But then again, I've heard their merchandise stuff is not as good
as WWE. And listen, we all know,
especially those who have been there and done it, that when
you're on that gravy train with the WWE and you're able to get
the merchandise, you got to figure video games, T-shirts,
UPS, you name it, they're out there putting your likeness on
it and making money for you and the company.
So it doesn't seem like AW has that right now.
I'm sure within time, hopefully they will be able to grasp the
same thing that WWE does, but as of right now, it doesn't seem
like they have that. He's now, Pinta's now getting
everything that he so wanted, not only bringing him brought in
the right way, but most likely that they started T-shirts and
all that already. Merchandise.
So there you go, merchandise and just, you know, overall, we're
going to have to see the third one in terms of how he's being
used. But I'm sure he will be used
correctly. But in terms of storyline wise,
we're going to see what happens and how the WWE uses him in that
capacity. And I'm sure with the with the
way they do things over there, very, very suddenly the WWE
dropped the ball. They may drop the ball once in a
blue moon, but with this guy, I don't think they will.
I think they'll make him a bigger star then than any other
company could have ever done with him.
No doubt about it. And and right out of the gate,
he's already there. I mean, his profile is through
the roof. That episode of Raw was number
one on Netflix. So just think about all the
people that have seen that episode.
That's probably more people than have ever watched Penta ever in
his entire career combined. So right out of the gate, you
just got the most exposure that you've ever gotten and you're
being presented as not only a star, but as a superstar.
So and, and you know what I like about it too deep on the the
events happened in San Jose, CA and Penta's family, his wife,
his kids, they were all front row.
They all got to see his debut raw.
Netflix sold out the biggest stage and you know, he got to
win his match and it was a good match and what have you.
He got to cut a promo after the match.
His merchandise was put out earlier in the day.
Everyone in the in the arena, a lot of people wearing his
merchandise already and what have you.
I mean, you couldn't you could not set somebody else up for
success any better than the way that WWE set Penta up for
success. And so far so great.
So, you know, Tony Kahn, Yeah, I, I know you're punching air
right now, brother, but, you know, I I hope you're learning
This is the way that you're supposed to do it.
So, you know, take it for what it's worth.
I I'm sure that the, the other folks in ATW are looking at this
and they're probably starting to, to wonder when's my contract
up, because maybe I need to try to make a jump too.
I mean, what do you think, Devon?
You think that's possible? I mean, it's definitely
possible. Not saying that it doesn't
happen, but it's definitely possible.
I mean, you know, when someone leaves one company and goes to
another and see what's going on over there for that person when
he left and how good he's doing, Of course, it's only human
nature that he's going to want to go see what's on the other
side as well. Hey, if that guy can do it, then
so can I. And that's probably exactly
what's happening with a lot of people as they see the success
of guys like him that come over from AW and go to WWE and see
their success. Look, CM Punk comes back, comes
back to, AW, big big thing, big thing, wow, amazing.
And then all of a sudden the troubles within started
happening, which started affecting how he was being used
and things like that. And you know, all the turmoil
that was going on during that time, he could never, ever get
back started again. He comes to WWE and it's a home
run. It's a complete home run because
again, these WWE knows how to take guys and use them and push
them. That's the difference.
Tony needs somebody that's going to be on that type of level
that's going to be able to help him to get to that level.
Tony doesn't realize how close he is.
He does not realize how close he is.
He's got he got to do something quick or he's going to lose it.
And that's what the consistency seems to be from everybody that
I've talked to. And I really, I'm really not
that involved like I used to be. But from all the talks I hear,
that's what I'm hearing. He needs that guy.
He needs that Pat Patterson. He needs that Michael Hayes.
You know, let me just say this. Maybe instead of throwing your
money out at talent and trying to get them to leave or to come
from Europe or what have you, maybe you should try to steal
the talent away within. Like maybe try to get a Michael
Hayes, you know, or you know, or Paul Heyman.
Try to throw your money that way as opposed to throwing it
towards talent that you already have.
In other words, you know, you have a great roster as it is.
It's almost like you really don't need to go anymore.
You got to be, you got to be able to, to, what's the word I'm
looking for? You got to be able to handle the
ones that you have before you go out and invest in others.
I mean, do you agree with me on that?
Oh, 100%. But the the problem with with
what you're saying, Devon, is the only way that a person does
something like what you're describing is if they actually
care about managing and growing a business.
You know, I don't know what this guy actually cares about just
based on the way that he moves it.
It's it's really fuzzy math on his part.
It never makes sense. He's not a a manager of people.
He's not a a good business manager and he sure as hell is
not qualified to manage a wrestling company.
Exactly what you said. Why wouldn't you bring in
somebody who has the experience and, and, and not only bring
them in, bestow upon them the responsibility and pay them to
manage your wrestling? I mean like.
Again, I don't know why. He, like I said.
Michael Hayes, a Pat Patterson, find somebody out there in
today's era that is more along the lines of guys like that that
can help you with your company. It's not just what we see on TV
that's going to get you where you need to be.
You need that storyteller, you need the right producers.
You need all of that stuff to make this happen.
And that's something that AW unfortunately doesn't have right
now. It's not saying that it can't,
but right now they don't have that.
And that's the sad part because he has no idea the gold barn
that he is sitting on right now. It this thing can explode at any
minute. He has the talent, he has the
money. He just needs the brains.
He needs the brains behind that. He needs the brains behind
that's going to make that machine work the way it should
work. You're absolutely right.
And it's, it's really crazy to me.
I, one of the things that I learned very early on in my
career because I, I've been in some type of leadership, just
that every, about every stop that I've ever had since day
one, I've, I've been groomed to be a leader, a manager, a person
who not only trains other people, but's responsible,
recruit, train, promote, sometimes fire.
That's my skill set. And one of the things I learned
early from an old timer is like, listen, you can't do it all
yourself. The best managers are the people
who who are able to recognize talent and know how to delegate
responsibility and then manage those outcomes.
So if I'm not good at something with I can remember when I was a
kid working in retail and I became a manager, I wasn't good
at the back of the room stuff, maintaining the inventory and
doing all of the, you know, the, the PNL reports and stuff like
that. That wasn't my skill set.
I could sell and I could teach you how to sell and I could I
could break record selling. So it's like, you know what, I
need somebody who's a good back of the house manager and let me
be the front of the house manager.
And that's exactly what I I was able to do.
And then when I brought people like that on, over time, I
trained them on how to be good salespeople and they trained me
on how to get better at managing the back of the house, managing
the the office work. And I eventually I developed and
got better at that and they got better at that selling and and
that was a, you know, match made in heaven.
That's what a good manager of anything is supposed to do.
And that translates to every single industry.
So for Tony Kahn, who's not good at managing wrestlers, he does
not understand how to format ATV show and to make it compelling
overtime, episodic television and what have you.
Why wouldn't you bring in people who know how to do that?
It's just crazy to me. It's completely nuts to me
because like you said, all the talent is there.
Well, it's not. And again, it's not that he
needs to get new talent because he's got the talent.
We all could see that. And now he needs, he needs
within. Like I said, he needs a Michael
Hayes, a Paul Heyman, you know, someone, you know, moral lines
of that. That's what he needs.
So it's not talent that he needs.
He just needs that power within the office, especially people
that will be able to tell, especially people that will be
able to tell them no, that this won't work, you know, and this
and that because they've been there, they've done it, they've
experienced it. When you got guys like that that
can tell you no, I mean, it's great.
Listen, there was a couple of times I was in the producers
meeting with Vince and Pat Michael Hayes and all of that.
And the one and the other producers and the one person
that would tell Vince no and Vince would actually respect it
and get his opinion why he said no.
And then nine out of 10 times that person would he would, he
would accept that person's vision on it and go with it.
It's Pat Patterson. That's how close Vince and Pat
were. That's how much respect Vince
had for Pat, you know, because of all his ideas.
I mean, Pat was just a genius when it came to that and Vince
knew it. So if Vince had a crazy idea
what have you, and Pat didn't see it and agree with it, Pat
would say, Vince, I don't think this is going to work.
I don't like it, This is why and blah, blah, blah.
And Vince would respect them. He doesn't have that.
That's the problem. He doesn't have a Patterson.
He doesn't have a man that will be able to tell him no, and not
only tell him no, but tell him why it's no and hey, he has an
option that might help. And maybe not only get your
vision, but my vision how I see it to work.
I'm going to tell you right now and, and, and tell me if this is
not a crazy idea. Instead of pumping all that
money that he did into the video game.
I mean, the video game bombed. It completely bombed, right?
That that Fight Forever AW video game that was on PlayStation and
a few other consoles there. The estimates are between 50 and
$100 million that it cost to put that game together and put it
out the way that they did. Tony Khan himself at least took
$20 million out of his own pocket and put it into that.
Can you imagine if he gave Triple H $20 million?
Because WWE is not going to match that.
Imagine if he gave Triple H 20 million or Paul Heyman $20
million and said, listen, you're going to run my wrestling.
I'm going to manage the business aspect of things.
But as far as what people see on TV, as far as assembling and
maintaining the roster, all that stuff, I'm going to hold you
accountable to do that. I'm going to give you a 2 year
contract, $20 million. Show me what you got.
Can you imagine where that company would be?
Tell you what. It would it wouldn't be a triple
HI guess you mentioned it. He got Triple H That ain't
working. I think Triple H is just fine
doing what he's doing with WWE. But I get what you're saying.
If they, if he, if that was to happen, forget about it.
Forget about it. You pay a person so much money
they have no choice but to do a good job.
I'm sure if he gave, if he called Heyman right now said
listen, I'll give you $20 million.
I will wire it to your account right now.
If you come work for me when your contracts, I guarantee you
Paul ain't going to turn down $20 million.
Hell no. And he's going to want to get
another 20 million. So you're going to do a good job
I. Mean you said people say Oh my
God, $20 million Oh my God, it's not worth listen could you
imagine if give payment $20 million yeah, that's a lot of
money right or or Michael somebody with that capacity
hell, I'll even throw it out there Bubba, because Bubba is
very good at you know finishes and storylines and things like
that. If anybody gets it or is even
close to the minds of a Pat Patterson, Michael Hayes or Paul
Heyman, it's Bubba. If you hear him talk on his
radio show Busted Open, he makes a lot of sense in what he says
and how the business should, you know, be.
And he's learned that both of us have learned how to how to do
business that way because of people that have come before us,
how we picked their brains and wouldn't stop until we
understood and got it. I mean, you know, Can you
imagine if he did that, if he gave Haman $20 million to come,
not only because, oh, well, you, you, you gave him $20 million,
Now what? Where's your return?
I guarantee you you'll see here return within a year or two when
ratings are up, house live events are up, the gates are
filled. I mean, you're going to see a
lot of it because people don't want to come see your product
because of the storyline, because of what they're doing to
help within the company. Not again, you cannot deny what
Payman had done for ECW. And you know, in my YouTube
channel I did, I said that you know, you the brain that that's,
you know, that Paul has for this business.
It's incredible how he can have you in the palm of his hands
just by the way he tells the story on what you're about to
see on TV. And if you think that Paul
Heyman doesn't have an influence on everything with the bloodline
and what's going on now, you're crazy.
But imagine now look at this. You have Paul Heyman, you have
Triple H, and you have Michael Hayes under one company.
The problem? And thinking of those three
minds right there, combine all three of them together, get the
storyline up. What kind of, you know, you're
going to get an Academy Award, which is what's been happening
storyline wise. Now, if you don't think all
three of those minds are together, especially when 1 gets
in trouble, in other words, when 1, you know, gets stuck in a rut
and trying to figure out something.
Hey, let's call, let's call, let's call Triple H Hey, let's
call Heyman. You know, forget about it.
I'm sorry, but it's a no win. It's a no win win there.
Yeah, win. I mean, in other words, let me
retract that. You can't lose.
Sorry about that. Edit that out.
You can't lose, you know, it's, it's just one of those things
that you got 3 great minds under the same umbrella.
What do you think is going to happen?
Dolla sign. Exactly what we see happening.
You're you're on Netflix making money hand over fist.
You're, you're, you're in Saudi Arabia making money hand over
fist. You're you're, you're more
popular now in making more money now than ever in the history of
any wrestling company, in the history of the industry.
Not So. That's what's not bad.
For the Harvey Weinstein, a professional wrestling or
Weinstein or whatever the name is.
Tony go live to regret that one boy, some people.
Some people might say, now I'm not saying this so you dirt
sheet riders don't fucking go and make sure that you print the
wrong shit. Some people might say well shit
at this point in case I might want to be the Weinstein or
Weinstein having to say his last name and not be Pepsi because
look at what the hell WWE is doing right now.
It's. Incredible.
Yeah. They, they can't miss.
They're at a point now where they just can't miss and and we
haven't even seen the best yet. We got the John Cena farewell
tour that's about to kick off. We got so many things.
Goldberg's last match. There's so many other things.
The Royal Rumble alone scene is going to be in it.
Roman's going to be in it looks like Logan Paul is going to be
in. Who do you?
Think is going to take it bad? Bunnies, Jesus.
I I honestly think that you got to have Cena win it and then
have Cena face Gunther win the title from Gunther and then
however long it takes, wherever it is, you got to have Cena drop
the title to J USO. The response that Jay USO has
been getting from the fans is as strong as anybody in the company
and you got to reward that. He's too hot, he's too over.
He sells merch handsome, he's marketable.
I don't understand you. You got to find a way to put a
belt on that. Now that that doesn't mean that
he can't go through growing pains and have a big feud and
Gunther certainly can still be a a a top challenger and all that
good stuff. But I think Cena getting the
title and then eventually putting over Jay USO is the best
way to pass the torch. I was just about to.
Say that I was gentle when you said when you brought up those
two, that's what was going through my mind.
It'd be great. That would enhance Jay more than
you can even imagine. They would pass that torch from
Cena. Something happened to me on
Monday when I was looking at Jay on the on TV on Netflix.
I realized this guy is the closest thing that we've had to
Macho Man Randy Savage since Macho Man Randy Savage.
That whole yeet stuff with the glasses and the and he's and
he's colorful and the, and the way that the crowd responds to
him and all that stuff, it's too genuine, man.
He's he's this is not a fad. This is something that has
staying power. But he still needs that extra
something to just get him completely over the top to where
he's in legendary status as a singles competitor.
And I believe John Cena not only putting him over, but putting
him over for a title. That's it.
Jay USO is truly a main eventer for the rest of his career after
that. Yeah.
So I, I, I think the company's got to do it, man.
I think, and I want to quote his daddy now as, as Rikishi would
say, the heat man, They they got to put the title on the heat
man. So, you know, that's me putting
my little Booker hat on there, Devon, you know, So Jay USO,
make sure my check's in the mail, brother.
I just put you over bid. Yes, you did.
We're going to move on from AW, growing pains, WWE continue to
make money hand over fist and we're going to get into
something very, very serious and, and, and sensitive.
And I'm going to give a trigger warning to folks out there
because we're going to be talking about mental health.
We're going to be talking about emotional stability and things
like that. Our next couple of topics.
I want to start with a scenario because this is something that
you've personally experienced throughout your career.
So I, I want to frame it this way.
Let's say you, you came into the WWE and it's modern Times Now,
Devon, you've already had your TLC series.
You're solidified as being not just this outside ECW group that
came in. Now you've made it over the
hump, you're respected. You're not the legend that you
are today because you still got a lot more career left to go.
But you're at that point now where you're establishing the
WWE. You are the A tag team like the
Dudley Boys are in right. You are going through the next
level of company adjustments, this shifting the rosters like
they always do, all that good stuff there.
You've been on the the A show, you've been on Raw for a while.
Sometimes you're on Smack down and that's OK, what have you.
But suddenly without any notice, you're shifted to whatever the
third brand is. For a while, ECW was 1/3 brand
in WWE. So let's just say that let's say
you're shifted down to the new ECW instead of being on Raw and
on Smack right now. Your money hasn't changed.
Whatever you're you, you, you're getting paid, whatever your
guarantee is, that stays the same.
But it's just that you're not on the top shows anymore.
You, you're going to be on this other show for the foreseeable
future. Talk to us about the emotional
and the mental aspect of how you handle.
It's not necessarily a demotion, although it can feel that way.
How do you handle being shifted from the top shows to something
that is still up and coming? Are you asking me my opinion on
it? I'm asking I'm, I'm, I'm going
deeper than that. I'm asking you how did you
personally handle it? Because it is something that you
went through before. And I mean, I guess the closest
thing that I can think of is when you went from being part of
the Dudley boys to being Reverend Devon for a period of
time, which when you had to do that singles right and you know
you. Know the great part about it is
not to get off the subject, but that happened and you know, it
was a little bit of a dog time for me, I my career.
But yet when I look back at all the matches, all the promos, the
comments underneath what people tell me when I see them at
autograph signing and things like that, that gimmick was
really good. It was WWE.
We still remember it. Absolutely it we still remember
my opinion at the time, it was WWE that dropped the ball with
that one and they don't drop the ball.
They barely dropped the ball, and I said that earlier, but in
this aspect, I think they dropped the ball with the
Reverend Devon. It was getting over great.
Promos were funny and that's what it was supposed to be.
The character wasn't supposed to be somebody that was taken
seriously. It was supposed to be it was a
joke. It was like brother love, you
know, the evil, you know, Reverend, you know, goes out
there and tries to gather the money from the masses of
congregation. It was it was supposed to have
been a joke And and you know, like a feel good moment getting
back at crooked preachers. That's what it should have been
and that's what it was. But you know, they took it
another way and it was it is what it is.
As far as the whole Corey Graves thing go, yes, there were times
when me and Bubba even let's not talk about the Reverend Devon
thing. Let's just talk about us being
AW Boyce period. We basically we basically
touched on many times where we were on Monday Night War.
We were on Smackdown religiously just going at it.
And then at one point in time they put us on Sunday Night
Heat. They put us on the second show,
Velocity and you know they were like two or three weeks, maybe
even 4 weeks where we did that show straight after doing all
the smackdowns, all the money. I was, does it mess with you
mentally? Absolutely.
Did you like what did I do wrong?
Why am I put on the lowest show? But what me and Bubba gathered
from that, even with all the years that we had built up in
our career by that point, it was a night off for us in a sense.
We would still go out there and give 110%, but then we'll go out
there and just have fun because, you know, at T VS you're not
known to be able to have fun because you're under time
restraint. You can only do it within a
certain amount of time and this and that because they're trying
to get ready for Raw Smackdown. You know, we learned that we can
go out there and have a great match and even try to steal a
show on something that heat or velocity, you know, why not?
Why not have a knockout, you know, drag out great match,
which is what I'm trying to say and I don't know because I've
never done commentating. Would that be on the same level
as what Corey is going through right now?
Why not? If he's going to NXT now to do
that and it's going to be Booker and who's the other guy that's
there? That's Victoria.
Joseph Victoria. I'm sorry he's.
Going to if you listen to this, he's going to kill me.
He's, I forgot his name, sorry. Victoria.
You know, you have a chance to be there with two people that
you've had fun with in the commentating booth.
So just look at it as it's going out there having fun.
I don't think he should be worried about him being taken
off the main roster in terms of commentating.
And I'm sure he's gone through that himself being, being
talent. You know, it's really nothing
wrong with it. I don't feel like it is.
I feel like he can definitely grow even more than what he's
already have and help, help, you know, teach something else, you
know, that maybe Victoria doesn't know.
And even that damn Booker T. Especially that Booker T
especially. That Booker T who's having, too.
Much fun. Who's having too much fun at
NXT, by the way? He's having a ball.
This guy you know now books. My books, my boy.
I love him to death. Go ahead, I love.
It in book he's been on the show a couple times.
I I I love book grew up as I actually have witnessed his
entire career. I've, I've pretty much have
witnessed your entire career too, Devon, which is a very
interesting thing to be able to say where your first televised
match I've seen and I've seen your last televised match up to
this point. Yeah.
So that's I'm I'm very proud of that.
To be able to say that. That's how long I've been
watching you, brother. Since the beginning 19. 90191996
was the debut April 13th, 1996 Lost Battalion Hall, Queens.
I, I, I've seen it since then and, and all the way to the end.
So you know, it's, it's interesting and, and, and again,
you've been through so much, you've been through this type of
situation many times over. And.
It's all about perspective here. Here's what I'm saying for a
historical perspective. Good for anyone who listens to
this in the future who may not necessarily know what we're
talking about. Why we got here?
WWE commentator Corey Graves, he was upset and started posting on
X Twitter. That's the reason why he's not
on Smack Down or Raw is because the company doesn't feel he's
famous enough to be on either one of those shows.
So that's it. That's why I stopped asking him
because that's the reason, which is just wow, what a way to say
it. Look, he's.
Probably 1 of the greatest. He's probably one of the
greatest, yeah. You know, young commentators out
there right now. Not to mention he knows his
shit. He knows what he's doing.
He he's the new Jesse, the body
Ventura, as far as I'm concerned, I would say.
No, he reminds me of Jesse. Yeah, yes.
Yeah. He he's not Bobby Heenan, but
he's Jesse also. Anybody.
Can be Bobby Heenan Bobby Heenan was one of the time.
Exactly. But he's.
Yeah, he's, he's definitely Jesse.
Here's the issue, though, and here's where it it makes it kind
of tricky. Corey has always been very open
about the fact that he suffers from mental health challenges,
anxiety, depression, things of that nature.
And and he had a career injury, career ending injury as a
wrestler, which certainly compounds the feeling of having
something important to you that you think is what you're going
to do for the rest of your career taken away from you, so
to speak. So I sympathize with that aspect
of things. Maybe the the way that we would
react to stuff is a little different when you have somebody
who has those additional challenges that they're working
through. So I sympathize with that.
And you know, those those issues are legal disabilities, by the
way. So I want to make sure that
everybody understands that we are aware of those facts and we
are sensitive to those facts. With that said though, Corey and
I'm talking to you directly, brother, you got to go to work.
There is too many opportunities, you work too hard.
The company is in too incredible situation for you not to
capitalize on whatever it is that they put on your plate.
NXT is on CW, that's network TV. That is the only network TV
television show that WWE has currently.
For them to put you on that show where you get to get to know the
younger stars and call their matches, what do you think is
going to happen when enough of them get called up to Smack Down
or Raw? You're going to be the preferred
commentator that they're going to want to call their matches
because you actually know them. You know their moves, you know
their tendencies. You know how to get them over by
by painting the picture with words on what they're doing in
the ring. So this is a golden opportunity,
brother, to to go down and and help these young kids build them
up. And then when it's time, you're
going to be bumped right back up to help them on that that next
level as well. So don't look at you didn't lose
any money. You just got a big raise and you
got to keep that money. You still getting paid the same
rate come on Corey, I get it. You had to blow some steam off.
That wasn't the best way to do it.
But it you know it happened. You take your lumps.
Maybe you get suspended or something or you get a good
talking to and that's fine but brother, it's time to go to
work. We better see you at work very
soon, and I'm just going to leave it at that.
Devon, you want to put a period on that one I.
Want to say, Lori, Uncle Devon saying come on back to work,
stop the nonsense and let's hear your voice up there again.
Damn right, damn right, too talented and, and the company
needs you. And, and I'm going to say that
definitively. The company needs you.
They've invested too much in you.
Your development has been excellent.
The company needs you to continue to pay off for them on
every level. You ain't got no business being
at home at this point unless you're hurt.
So let's go. Let's get back to work, yes?
Please. There's that.
Now let's let's let's move on to the next one here because this
is another personal thing WWE legend Molina trended last week
on XI heard about. That because some.
Yeah, some promoter put out that Molina's unresponsive and hasn't
returned their calls. So as a result, they deemed her
quote, UN quote, missing. And with the wildfires happening
in California, they're very concerned that something's wrong
and all this other nonsense. And unfortunately, the dirt
sheets, instead of doing any due diligence, they just took that
and ran with it. And that prompted even Fox News
to report on this and report that Molina is been reportedly
missing and all this other nonsense here.
Now Full disclosure. Well, yeah, in, in, in the end,
she, she, she and her team got in contact and let the original
poster know that she's perfectly fine.
And they had to retract what they said, which caused a little
bit of an avalanche of people having to walk back to the
sensationalism because, you know, all the dirt it it
trended, it was the number one topic.
All the dirt sheets were saying, oh, just she's missing and she's
unresponsive and Oh my God, and all this nonsense.
Here's what I'll say to this. Molina's been on Duke Loves
Wrestling a number of times. And she and I have developed a
very good rapport. We've spoken for hours on the
show and, and even more hours offline and what have you.
And, you know, I check in on her from time to time and she always
tells me, in fact, right before Thanksgiving, we had a great
conversation where she reminded me she was like, hey, you know,
sometimes things get overwhelming and I just have to
step away for a little bit. I'm not ignoring you.
It's just that, you know, that's the way I do.
I process things or what have you.
So just want to let you know, you know, there's nothing
personal on you, but sometimes I step away and I and I told her,
I said, look, you and I have already had this conversation
many times. I get it.
I understand and just stay safe. That's all we care about.
But don't worry, you know, you don't got to apologize for
anything. Take your time away as much as
you need to and, and, and focus on you and your family and what
and what's most important. So when I saw that she was
unresponsive to someone, that didn't surprise me because I
know that that's how she rolls, right?
And I reached out to her personally and I also reached
out to her brother. And then not long after that
they got in contact with those folks and told them to cut the
bolt. They I almost swore there.
Jesus, cut the nonsense out. So here's my question to you,
Devon. Can you imagine waking up and
finding out that you're quote UN quote missing and unresponsive?
How, how crazy would that be to you that you would be a number
one trending topic even on Fox News that Devon Dudley is is
missing and unresponsive? Well, you know, one of the
things I will say about that is hold on.
One of the things I will say about that is it's happened
numerous times, not just with wrestlers or what have you.
We've had incidents where somebody said somebody was dead
and they weren't in the wrestling world.
And you know, and this and that more about there was even right
after Vince bought the company WCW, I think it was the next
week, there was a report when as soon as I got to the building,
there was a report that Whitney Houston and Luther Vandross both
passed away. And I remember I was like, what
the hell is this world coming to?
I was like, you know, this is crazy.
And then of course, we found out later on that that wasn't the
case and that somebody had put that out there.
They were looking to get a story.
They were looking to get people to respond to a story, which
wasn't true. And that's what you get a lot of
times with these dirt sheet riders.
You get that things that aren't true.
So when you read this stuff, don't take it like, well, this
is what the Internet said. This is what they said.
No, because probably 65 to 75% of that, it's false.
Unless you hear it from the person's mouth themselves or you
see whatever is going on yourself, that's when you take
it. That is the truth.
Hold on, do you remember when that rumor went around before
those two passed away, that they were there?
Absolutely. Absolutely.
So you didn't? Remember that, OK, Yeah, 'cause
I know it took, it took me like, 'cause you know, I'm like, damn.
Whitney Houston and Luther Vandross, both dead, who icons
in the music industry, especially in the black
community that that was, that would have been, that wasn't
like freaking mind boggling. Then we had just lost Michael.
No, we didn't. We didn't lose Michael yet.
Well, and keep in mind that was early in the Internet, so that's
why I was able to spread the way that it did exactly.
You know. That stupid rumor that was not
true. Absolutely.
I, I, I remember that like it was yesterday.
It was crazy, you know, and I said it before my first media
job, I was 13 years old and we were trained by some of the top
media professionals at the time in the nation and, and honored
with awards and stuff like that. So one of the things that was
hammered into me early is that if you ain't getting it directly
from the source, you got to be careful of how you're you're
talking about stuff. And that's why even with
podcasting, I'm not chasing rumors.
I'm not chasing trying to break news.
I would rather have either somebody who has direct
knowledge of what's going on to, to come on and talk about it or
literally give the the actual subject, the person who's being
spoken of to come on and and talk or at least give me a
statement. So it mortifies me to see how
these folks just run afoul. They've done it to you a million
times, Steve, on where they just say things that are just not
true. And because some goofball made
it up, everybody takes it and runs with it.
And now it's it's they're getting their clicks off of
that. It's disgusting and it pisses me
off. And Molina, who already has her
own challenges that she goes through to have to deal with
that where she legitimately is trending as if she's dead.
That is a pretty tough thing for a person to have to deal with.
You know what I mean? And, and for and for their
family more importantly, especially family who may be,
you know, you didn't talk to them today or you haven't spoken
to them since the holidays. And then you go online and
everybody's saying your family members probably dead.
That's crazy. It's absolutely.
Crazy. I do.
Know that she had went through some personal stuff in her life
where, you know, she kind of needed help.
And so to, to have to go through that, you know, about 15 years
ago now, to have this come up and for them to say what they
said, that's got to be working on the nerves and, and, and the
mind. It really does because you have
to a lot of trauma bro. Yeah, it's.
It's a lot of trauma. It is, yeah.
She she revealed on on my show that the first of about 10 years
of her life, she was non verbal. This is a person who has been
dealing with challenges since day one, so she she already
didn't really talk much for the 1st 10 years of her life.
Think about that. So then all the other things
that she's had to go through and what have you.
And it's hard to even imagine that considering how flamboyant
she was, especially as a wrestler.
But she's playing a role, so it was easy for her to do that.
In reality, she's a very quiet, unassuming, trying to stay out
of the way kind of person. At least that's what's been
impressed upon me through our conversations.
So I don't know my. Yeah, You know, you, you, you
worked with it, you know, you know personally.
So my heart goes out and to Molina and her whole family and
and again to your dirt sheet folks.
And to these fans. If you truly are a fan, don't
contribute to somebody else's, whatever the opposite of their
well-being is to somebody else's trauma.
Let's say that. Please don't do that.
If we love these wrestlers, we don't need to be inflicting upon
these wrestlers and and I'll just leave it at that because
it's it's I'm still pissed about it.
Devo. I got to be honest.
I'm so pissed because it was crazy.
And and the person who, who started the the nonsense, when
they retracted the statement, they said, oh, she's been found.
She was never lost. What do you mean she's been
found? She was never lost.
So it's like, brother, Oh my God, no wonder she wants to
leave people alone for long periods of time because it's
like this is what they do. You know, it's it's, it's sick.
Speaking of sick. And we're going to we're going
to end on this note here. There was a report, a tweet that
went out that Jada Parker who who's somebody who, you know, we
both have a lot of respect for and appreciation for.
She's doing a fantastic job in NXT.
Wonderful young lady who's developing well as a solid pro
wrestler. She has a great character.
She cuts a fantastic promo. She looks amazing.
Like she, she's a star. No question.
Jada Parker's a star. She had liked a tweet that had
mentioned something about transgendered athletes competing
in sports against, you know, side by side with and against
women. And, you know, Jada had had
liked the tweet that said that that shouldn't be, you know,
women who were biologically born women shouldn't have to compete
with transgender athletes in sport, in real sport.
We're not talking wrestling or anything like that.
We're talking competitive sport. She liked it.
Now, Full disclosure, Jada Parker is a former Division One
soccer player. She was at the highest level and
she was very well accomplished. And she's and she's been a
winner her entire life as an athlete, an elite athlete, by
the way. So she's an expert on this
subject. She's a woman who's had to
compete at the highest level and had to go through everything,
you know, as a competitor. And she doesn't feel that she
should have to compete against somebody who biologically,
according to the definition, according to the laws, was born
a male. I think that she has enough
experience to be able to, to have an opinion on that and to
be able to say something about that more than anybody else who,
who never comes from that type of background.
But there's been an avalanche of people trashing her and, and,
and giving her a hard time about it and stuff like that.
And it, and it's just so ridiculous in my opinion, you
know, and in from a, from a societal standpoint, this is a
subject that is going to continue to be a hot button
issue. And this isn't anti anything.
There's no anti trans people or anything like that.
This is just a fact of we got to take a look at biologically born
women. Why should they have to compete
with somebody who biologically likely has an advantage?
And, and I don't talk to me about, well, they're taking
pills and the hormones and you don't know.
No, actually I do know I interviewed Alexander Allred,
who she was one of the founders of the US Olympic bobsled team
for women and ironically she competed while she was pregnant.
She found out while she was competing as she was pregnant,
and she is the foundation of studying.
How do you treat an athlete in competitive sport when they're
pregnant, when they're early on in their pregnancies and when do
they have to stop and what should they eat and stuff like
that. Alexander Allred is the
foundation of that. She is person #0 I would say
where they had to learn from her and that's how they built the
whole system on how to treat athletes like that.
And, and Alex is an author now. She's a former martial artist as
well. She's a huge legend in sports.
She's an International Sports Hall of Fame as well.
And, and she's even said this is not something that women should
have to deal with. So when you got an expert like
that, I think she knows what she's talking about.
And she's educated me on a lot of stuff and on my oldest show,
Tell Us the Truth with iHeartRadio.
We had a fantastic conversation about that a few years back and
I still checking with Alex about the subject.
So I say all that folks, just to say this, everything doesn't
have to be a fight. Everyone's entitled to their own
opinion. But when you're talking to an
expert, I think you got to you got to put your pride aside and
and mind your manners a little bit and recognize I think this
person probably knows a little bit more about this subject than
I ever will because I'm never going to be AD one female
athlete. So I think I think those folks
know a little bit of something more than I do on this.
So Jada Parker, I support you. Sorry that you're being given a
hard time about this subject. WWE.
It would be a shame if you gave her a hard time about sharing
her opinion on something she's an expert on.
That's my opinion and I'm going to leave that at that.
I don't know Devon, do you have anything to add to that subject
there? Well, you.
Know this is coming from, you know, my brother who is gay and
this had came up between him and I before.
And it was funny because when I heard about what was going on I
said I agree with her in terms of that.
And I say that respectfully, not taking anything away from the
gay community or whatever they decide whatever agenda they
would prefer to be called. My thing is this and I was
speaking to my brother about this and he agreed with me 100%,
but he was the one that actually said it.
He said and again, he's gay. So he said here it is.
I'm gay. If I decide to be a woman and to
transfer my body into being a woman, guess what?
Biologically I'm still a man. So I'm still going to have that
strength that I had growing up as a boy or as a man.
If I go into a, if I go into a club, get into it with a girl
who is gay and who dresses like a man or what have you.
If I, if I, if I, if I was the push or to hit that individual
out of an argument or, or some type of disagreement or what
have you, which sometimes guys do in terms of with other guys,
you know, they get mad fights, break out and things like that.
But if I was to do that to a woman, they would still look at
her as being a woman, you know, not pretty much a, a woman
trying to make a transfer over to a man.
So again, I understand people are very, very, what's the word
I'm looking for? They're very, very careful on
how they say this or approach it because it's a very sensitive
subject with a lot of people. But again, I agree, I agree with
her to the to the point where she's a Division One athlete.
So you can't take men who are Division One athletes and put
them in to a a program with Division One women, you know,
And of course, if the women win and it's like, yeah, you know,
girl power. But if the guys win, it's like,
oh, it's expected, you know, because of that it is.
It's even like, say for wrestling, you know, you got to
be very careful unless that person is very skilled and the
other one isn't. That's pretty much the only way
something like that could actually happen where if you
take somebody with the strength of Brock Lesnar.
Now, I'm not saying Brock, I'm just saying take a man that's
kind of built like Brock has his same strength and this and that.
And let's just say he felt like he was born the wrong sex or
what have you, and he wanted to become a woman and he did
everything possible to make the necessary changes to do that.
Grant you he has the right to do whatever he wants to do.
But the same token, he still has that strength.
He still has that ability that he's had before he made the
transformation. So to go in there with a female.
And to actually go in there and say to wrestle or to be on the
same level as AUFC fighter, to be able to fight them on that
level, it's just that's impossible because he is still
going to win regards or at that point she'll become a woman.
So she will still win regardless.
It's just to me, it's just that you just I don't know, it's just
very touchy. It's very weird when you go into
that type of when you get into that type of subject because
again, you understand what both sides are saying, but I
understand more of Jada than I do the other side because again,
the strength is still going to be there.
So how are you going to be able to compensate for that?
That's that's what I think she's coming from.
Absolutely. And and again, she, she's an
expert on the subject. So she, I think she, she can be
given enough grace to share her expert opinion without being
beat up on about it. Folks are, are, are, there's too
many of these fake activists. There's too many of these folks
who who think they have an opinion on something and they
really don't know what the hell they're talking about and they
assume too much about everybody else.
And again but and again, dude, I got to say this, no one is
taking away anything. Whoever wants to be whatever
they want to be in terms of they want to change their sex, their
gender, that's fine. No one's saying anything bad
about that. No one's saying that they're
prejudice or racist against that particular situation.
All they're saying is that the, the is, I don't know if ability
is the right word, but you know, taking on taking a man who wants
to be a woman now and then put them in a direct a physical
competition with an actual female.
Like I said, will it be wrestling?
Even women's football, the the women's league that they have
and things like that. Now, I'm not going to say
basketball. I think basketball is a little
because we've seen things where men and women have gone at it
and a lot of times the women are pretty much victorious in that
aspect. We we've all seen that at one
point in time. But wrestling, MMA and even
boxing I think would be totally unfair because again, you have
that, you have the I mean. From a, From a, from a physical
standpoint, I mean even your skeletal structure, you know
what I mean a bit. We are not the same.
And, and, and that's biology.
I don't care what your opinion is.
I don't. And I'm not going to sit here
and play games with any of these folks who want to sit there and
act like they know what they're talking about.
Let me tell you something. I'm in Massachusetts.
I fought for, for, for marriage equality and I and, and, and
rights for everybody and all that good stuff.
And I continue to do so. And.
Yeah, and. No one's saying no one, no one's
going against that. That's, you know, if that's what
if that's what you would like to do, then so be it.
But when it comes to a physical aspect of the game, whether it's
wrestling, MMA, boxing, and I use those three because those
are physical. That's where I think the
advantage is unfair. Yeah, soccer too.
Men are generally faster and stronger, and when you're
biologically born that way, I don't care what hormones you're
taking. If I knock your ass over as a
biological woman, you're going to probably get hurt more than
when you knock me over, no matter what hormones I take,
because my skeletal structure is different.
Don't give me that nonsense, folks.
I don't want to hear that Well. Not only that, but the strength,
the strength it's, it's, you know, it doesn't make any sense
for that to even be considered not to be a factor in this.
That's it. That's the.
Thing and I'm going to. Tell people right now you want
to cancel me for what I said. That's OK.
My record speaks for itself. But there's nothing.
No, dude. I'm not.
No, no, there's nothing to cancel you for.
Nothing. Nobody's saying anything
derogatory about them in any way shape or form.
Or when I say them, I mean the people in the community that
thinks that it's, it's wrong to even speak about it.
It's a fact that it has to be brought up.
No one should be cancelled because they have an opinion on
how they feel about a certain situation.
So in my opinion, for those that want to make a big deal out of
what you and I are saying, then go to hell.
That's it. That's it.
We're going to deal with it. And, and here's the worst part,
we got a guy coming back in office with Trump who he already
made it clear that from a legal standpoint, there's only going
to be two genders. And I'm telling those folks out
there right now who are giving Jada a hard time.
What are you going to do when from a legal standpoint that's
all it is. So it's like y'all got to really
sit down and think about what you're choosing to, to give
people a hard time about and where are you getting your
allies from? Because you're going to drive
people away who generally speaking, are actually on your
side and willing to, to to advocate for you.
But you're going to nitpick over something like this and you're
going to drive people away. And you don't want to hear that.
But I'm going to tell you that whole earthy crunchy, you know,
your feelings are more important than the facts and all that.
That's that's gone. The reality of situation is
people have to start getting serious about how we're going to
move forward as a society and what makes sense.
And when an expert talks about something, you don't disrespect
them as somebody who's never been and never will be.
And I'll leave it at that. Big man, you got a lot to plug.
Let's start with that, that wonderful, fantastic YouTube
channel of yours there. Plug away, man.
What's the best way folks can check you out on YouTube?
Well, they can definitely check me out on YouTube.
Devon Dudley on YouTube, that which we are we're close to
60,000 subscribers. So thank you the fans and
friends for making that number happen within a short amount of
time It's been a great ride I'm enjoying everything the new
video is up for this month, so check it out if you haven't seen
it already and we have 1 coming out every Thursday.
So and we've got some good guests, I should say great
guests coming up within the next 3 or 4 weeks one you're not
going to want to miss so please check out the YouTube channel
and be a part of it. Also, you can reach on Instagram
Testify Devon as well as testify Devon on Twitter.
I have a private Facebook. So it's it's for family and
friends only. So I do not allow anybody from
the outside to go on that site again, unless you're family or
close, close friends. So I do so in other words, I
don't really have a Facebook for the fans, but again, reach me on
those platforms and we can definitely talk.
Also, I have the wrestling school in Winter Park, FL 2724
sites road right there in Winter Park, FL.
It's literally 2 minutes away from Full Sail University, but
yet three to four minutes away from the performance center.
So come check us out if you're ready to take your, your, your
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It's a mobile detailing business and we're out there ready to
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Of course, folks, Duke loves Rossin on Gmail on Facebook,
Duke loves rossin@gmail.com. Let me know what you think.
Listen, before we go, a great friend of the show, Nick Butay,
his dad's Sam. Sam had a major health scare.
I don't know if you knew this before Devon, major health scare
over the holidays. He was in the hospital for a
little while. They almost lost him, but you
know, Sam, he kicked out, he's on the mend.
So he's back home with the family and he's and he's slowly
recuperating what have you. Can we give some kind of well
wishes to our brother Sam from River City Wrestling Con?
Yeah, Sam, listen, it's Devon here.
I just want to say please get well and know that you have
family and friends in your corner protecting and guiding
you, and know that God has you and he's going to bring you back
stronger than ever. So get well, my brother, and
testify. That's right, Sam, we love you,
brother. Hang in there.
Can't wait to see you at the 2025 River City Wrestling Con.
You're always good for a great joke and what have you.
So I can't wait to hear some of those, man.
So get yourself ready for that because it's going to be a great
time. That's right.
All right, Devon, let's get our word of the week to take us out.
Sure. Don't consider yourself to be
wise. This will this will come from a
biblical aspect. Don't consider yourself to be
wise. Trust in the Lord with all your
heart and do not rely on your own understanding.
Think about Him and all your ways and He will guide you on
the right path. Testify.
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