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And of course, the Hall of Famer, one of the greatest of
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the road right now like an outlaw.
Devon Dudley. What's going on there, Devon?
All right, nothing much, just doing the normal things,
bringing up kids from school and got the baby in the back so you
might hear him go off a little bit, but just so like, just so
you know that. Listen, man, I'm telling you
daddy daycare, bro, that's that's that's going to be we got
to put that on AT shirt or something, man.
That's that's Devon Dudley. So many people, you know, they
go man, 7 kids. But what they feel understand is
I had the first four in the very beginning, you know, so they're
grown now, the first four. So now I got the three little
ones and I enjoy it. You know, I don't, I don't hinge
it, you know, having babies, them crying and all of that.
I love it. Soothing them down, making sure
they're OK, looking at their little faces when they see you
and knowing that, you know, the security that they feel when
they're with you. That's what I love the most
about having kids. If I was 10 years younger, I
would have five more. Wow, wow.
That that that's something. That's a tall order right there.
Do you remember that movie Three Men and a Baby?
Yes, that's what I think about. I also remember the controversy
that came along with it with this is supposedly the spirit of
the little boy hiding behind the curtain.
You remember that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good point, Good point. They all thought, I mean, nobody
ever, I never ever found out or realized if anybody thought that
was legit or not. Or maybe they put it in a movie
just to add controversy to it. But I remember that went on for
a long time. People kept saying that there
was a spirit of a little boy that the camera captured behind
hiding behind the curtain of the house during that time.
That's what I think. That's what I think of when I
when I hear about that movie. Now for any of you, you younger
folk out there, Three Men and a Baby was literally one of the
biggest movies of the 80s. And ironically, not only did it
do well in the movie theaters, it did even better when it came
out on VHS because people had the BCR so you could watch it at
home and what have you. But it was a it was a movie
where legitimately you had three guys who were raising a baby
together as friends and what have you.
And, and it was just high jinks. It it was a it was a family
movie, a comedy, but very, very popular.
What I think of Devon, especially with the baby.
I think of that movie. There it is, there it is that
now do do you have the little strap where where the baby can
basically be strapped to you, to your chest and and you can walk
around without having to hold the baby.
Yes, I do. Actually.
I do have that. I don't have it with me, but I
do have one. I definitely do have one.
You know, I go through the malls and, you know, some people
recognize me and they see me with the baby on my chest and
they're like, oh, Devon, that is so cute.
I'm like, oh, well, thank you. Thank you very much.
You know, oh, I love it when a man has a baby and he shows that
he's being a daddy. I was like, OK, here we go.
So it really does work. Unbelievable.
Now my now tell everybody again, how tall are you and about how
much you weigh in these days? Well, I'm 6 to 226 lbs.
I went from 285 to now 225. I dropped a lot of it because of
the DDP yoga, talking to Dallas, learning about foods, things
that I thought was good for you even when you're supposedly
dieting, Things that you thought were good for you and wasn't
bloating you or adding unnecessary calories calories to
you. They are and I didn't know that
until I started reading up on the foods and stuff and I
realized that the dieting and I was doing that everybody else is
doing is wrong. You know certain foods that you
think are not hurting you and this and that they are hurting
you. And once I stopped and started
doing it the right way, the weight just started dropping.
I don't care who you are, how many times you work out, if you
don't put the right food in your body, you can work out 1000
times a day. It's not going to do you any
good. You're still going to get that
bloated feeling. You're not going to lose the
weight that you want and you're still going to look like you
don't want to look. You know you're, you're going to
be disappointed. And it's not the diets don't
work. It's how you eat and what you
put in your body. So, so that's a good transition
here. Let me ask you this because I
know we talked about what you would eat for dinner and things
like that. But here here's a a question
that I know folks are curious about.
What do you have in between meals?
Like if if you are are snacking on anything, what's your go to
snack? Like I'll have like a a handful
of almonds, you know, things like that, protein bars in
between protein shakes, you know, things like that.
And believe me when I say it, it's boring as hell.
Ain't nothing fun about it, but I do it.
You know, I had the back surgery, even though the back
surgery was a success, the pain that I was feeling was still bad
to the point where I could barely walk at times and getting
used to the titanium bolts and screws in my back was very hard
at one point. Scar tissue being built on top
of scar tissue, that was what was really holding me back.
So the yoga was actually really working.
When I called Dallas and he was telling me how to do it, it was
great. And then I started working with
Bobby Fish, a former NXT Superstar.
Basically he's certified in the DDP Yoga and I called him up.
I said, can you help me? He goes absolutely.
Me and Bobby have been friends ever since.
It was like a little bit like maybe a week or two right before
Wrestle Mania. I started doing the yoga and it
was, it made, it changed my life tremendously.
Now I see what was going on with Scott Hall, Jake the Snake,
Robbins, Butter Bean and all the other people that were a success
story from doing the yoga. I mean it.
I can't begin to tell you how much this has changed my life.
Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome.
Once again, shout out to Diamond Dallas Page.
Shout out to Bobby Fish. I know Bobby Fish just recently
put together a new faction in MLW with CW Anderson and Brock
Anderson and and Brett Ryan Gosling.
So shout out to Bobby Fish still making it happen in the ring as
well. But you know, a guy who's
certified in DDP yoga, great trainer and what have you again,
Diamond Dallas Page, he changes lives for the positive.
It's it's a beautiful thing there.
He really does. And the thing about it is I used
to have like right before WrestleMania, I was kind of like
embarrassed because I went to WrestleMania limping because I
was in so much pain and things like that.
And you know, it was very noticeable.
Even with the match that I had at the ECW Arena with me and
Bubba versus Onita and Dreamer, you know, it was very
noticeable. And so I basically was, you
know, telling Bobby and and Dallas, you know, I really want
to get rid of this limp. I really want to make sure that
people don't see me as a like a handicapped person and not
anything wrong with it. But, you know, I'm not used to
people feeling sorry for me. You know, I'm not used to people
going, oh, Devon, you know, he's messed up.
But I, I basically wanted to get rid of this limp.
You know, again, I didn't want to feel like I was handicapped
or people feeling sorry for me. So I busted my behind three to
four times a day doing this yoga and it, like I said, it really
paid off. So, you know, no more limping,
no more asking for a wheelchair assistance, you know, getting
off a plane because sitting down for long periods of time would
fire it up. You know, everything is just
normal again for me. And it's great.
I'm able to play with my kids now, you know, run around, do
things. I mean God, I I cannot put over
this yoga enough to tell you how happy and satisfied and and that
I am. I love it and and I I'm so
thankful that you've been able to get your mobility back and
the fact that you are, are basically, you know, preaching
the gospel of DDP Yoga. I think that's really, really
cool. So again, shout out to all the
folks involved with DDP Yoga, especially Diamond Dallas Page,
especially Bobby Fish. It works, it works.
We we got to get some Dallas on the show some time to, to talk
about a little bit more because with the holidays coming up,
that would be a great gift to give folks in your life
subscription to DDP Yoga, everyone out there.
So keep that in mind for sure. But you said something about the
titanium in your back and I want to ask you about this.
Does that go off at the airport, Devon?
I mean, how do you how do you handle stuff like that?
No, it doesn't, surprisingly. I thought it would have, but it
doesn't. Every, every, even overseas,
because overseas their detectives are very sensitive
and it doesn't go off there. That is very, very interesting.
So they don't, they don't hold you up, they don't stop you up
and and and got to use the wand and none of that stuff, No.
I usually get detected from my watch on my belt.
Wow, wow, That's interesting. That's really interesting.
You know, my mother, she had to, she had an ankle injury, broke
her ankle last year and she had to have her a plate and I think
6 screws put in her ankle. And that's something that she's
still wondering about. You know, next time she goes to
travel, is this thing going to be going off?
So, you know, that's good news that it, you got it all in your
back and it ain't going off. So that's good news right there,
man. Exactly.
They don't. I mean, it's like I said, night
and day, man. Wow, wow, that's something.
Speaking of night and day, Main Event Jay USO.
This guy has been on a tear during his entire singles run,
and he's been rewarded generously.
Now the man is now the Intercontinental Champion.
He just defeated a Braun Breaker on Raw this past week.
What are your thoughts on Main Event Jay USO rising to the
occasion? And now you know, basically he's
just one step below being the world champion.
Very, very happy for Jay. You know, I worked with Jay when
Bubba and I returned back to the WWE under the Vince regime and
it was an honor and a pleasure to work with both of them.
And I've said this numerous times.
You know, their father Akishi helped me out so much during my
tender in WWE when I when me and Bubba first came near the first
run. And then of course just over the
years, you know, he kept me calm and cool.
Him and Farooq during the whole Reverend Devon when things
weren't going right and, you know, telling me to keep my head
up and, you know, don't worry about it, it's going to be OK.
Him and Ron basically helped me out tremendously.
So when we came back to WWE for that second run, and I remember
talking with them and I told him about that because they kept
saying thank you for helping me, for helping us out and helping
us try to get to that next level.
And I told him, I said, listen, as good as your father was to
me, it's only fitting that I can return the favor.
As much as I can do to help you guys get to that next level, I'm
going to do no matter what. It was because of your father
that kept me sane during that whole Reverend Devon thing.
And I can only do, all I can do is repay the favor back from
helping you guys. So again, I'm very happy to see
Jay actually really go off during his single run and really
take it to that next level because a lot of people can't do
that. When you've been in the tag team
for so long, it's it's kind of difficult.
It's like a uphill climb that you're going to try to make.
And he's done it. You know, he's reached the top.
He hasn't gotten to the world championship yet, and I say yet,
but he's on his way there. Congratulations, Jay.
I'm very, very happy for you. And again, nothing but the
world. And the Sky's the limit, my
brother. Sky's the limit, indeed.
I mean, hey, at the rate he's going, there's no reason why
main event Jay USO can't be WWE Champion someday and, and, and
the not too distant future because he's moving that
merchandise as well. Man, the the fans are really
getting behind this whole heat stuff and, and he's over and,
and it doesn't hurt that Mommy has been showing him some
attention, huh? I think anytime mommy shows
anybody attention, that's a good thing.
That's a real good thing. That's a real good thing.
It's funny you, you, you mentioned rikishi and he's been
very active online and, and on his own podcast sharing his
thoughts on what's been going on, the good, the bad and the
ugly, so to speak, and very opinionated.
But those are his kids. So of course he's going to speak
up and get in and, and share how he feels things should be.
And the guy's a Hall of Famer, so he should be allowed to do
that, of course. But he, he put out something
last week where he tweeted that he's asking everybody for
prayers for Jimmy USO. Please pray for Jimmy, pray,
pray for my son or what have you.
And didn't give any more details beyond that.
And, and certainly doesn't have to.
But something strange happened where some of these, these these
tabloid dirt sheep, goofball humanoid bastards, they
including the folks over at Fightful in particular, they
said they reached out to WWE and WWE said, oh, well, Jimmy Uso's
fine. And, you know, so, so
essentially trying to contradict or trying to make it seem like
they're contradicting Rikishi, the man asked for prayers for
his son. Now, I'm not going to believe a
dirt sheet over the father of somebody.
I, I, I don't think the dirt sheets are going to know what's
happening with your kids more than you do, Devon.
So what's your take on this whole notion of the dirt sheets
acting as if if there were a problem, WWE would actually tell
them anyway? Well my thing is leave the man
alone. You guys are fucking like
leeches man. Leave him alone damn.
You know, I mean the if he's having issues, then let him deal
with his issues on his own. Stop trying to put his business
out in the street. This is what I don't understand
about these people now take them for instinct, let something bad
happen to them or something controversy in their lives and
they want to keep it hush hush, you know, and then let somebody
leak their problems. They'll go on.
They would be going off. Leave the man alone.
Whatever he's dealing with, he's dealing with.
Let him deal with on his own with him and his wife and his
family. You know, Rikishi, all he said
was pray for my son. Why can't you just do that as
opposed to putting your nose where it doesn't belong?
This is what makes people upset about you guys, because you guys
don't get it. All you're trying to do is write
a story, get people to go to your page or your site or your
whatever you're doing it on it. All you're trying to do is get
them to go on it so that way you get more views or what have you.
Leave the man alone. Think about what you're doing
before you do it, because I tell you, karma's a bitch, whether
you think so or not. It doesn't have to be, you know,
with your, with your business or anything like that being put in
the street, but it can be coming some, somewhere else.
So, you know, grow the hell up, man.
Grow the hell up I love it. All of you dirt chic tabloid
bastards grow the hell up absolutely And listen Jimmy USO
you know you rikishi said pray for my son, been praying for you
brother. Simple as that.
No matter what is happening, good, bad or indifferent,
praying for you. Can't wait to see you back in
that ring doing what you do best, which is being one of the
greats. Cause in my opinion, the Usos
without a doubt are one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
And it certainly hopes that they had folks like the Dudley Boys,
the New Day, you know, Cesaro and and and TJ and you can go
down the list of all the wonderful tag teams that these
guys were able to be in the ring with and put on classics with.
And you know, you're cemented, brother.
Jimmy USO, you and Jay USO are cemented.
You are you are part of history, a major part of history.
You have continued the tradition of tag team wrestling.
So make no mistake about it, when you come back, the applause
is going to be tremendous for you because we respect you, we
appreciate you. And again, all you dirt sheet
riders out there, mind your business.
Like Devon said, just pray for the man.
Like the man's daddy said, please, my goodness.
I said my prayers and thoughts are with you.
Whatever you're going through in your time or need, I know God
will be there and answer all your prayers.
Forget what all of these idiots out there are saying.
Know that there's a friend in God and that's all you need.
You and your wife get through whatever you're getting through.
Remember, I'm only a phone call away.
God bless you my brother. You stay strong and healthy.
Damn right, damn right. Speaking of strong and healthy,
I got to tell you, man, are are we at a point yet where we've
seen the peak of of Ria Ripley or do you feel she still has
some more levels that she can reach at this point?
I still think she has more levels.
I don't think she's been actually tapped into everything
that she possibly can do. She surprises me every time she
gets in that ring, whether it's her wrestling ability, whether
even if it's her, you know, backstage stuff, how she is.
It's it just seems so real. Some of her facial expressions
when she's annoyed or when she's happy, It's it, it, it really
comes off genuine and really funny sometimes good.
Very dangerous. When I say dangerous, I mean you
don't want to mess with mommy. You know, It's one of those
things where I think she hasn't reached her full potential yet,
and I think it's coming. It's only a matter of time
before Hunter really taps into that and let her really fly.
Indeed, indeed. I mean, legitimately, she could
end up going down as the biggest star in women's wrestling
history and in one of the biggest stars period in, in
wrestling history. Because the pop even even on Raw
this week, the pop that she gets is so tremendous.
I mean, people are really buying into her and, and they're behind
her 100%, man. I mean they, they love her.
I mean, it doesn't help to, you know, very beautiful girl.
That's one. Number two, she looks great.
She presents herself great. And even with that gothic look,
you know, a lot of people don't look good when they present that
gothic look. You know, people look at them
and go, what the hell is wrong with these people?
You know, who the hell hurt them?
But Rhea Ripley is the opposite. She looks great with that gothic
look. I think it's her.
It's a part of her. But she made it not look
strange, not look weird. She made it beautiful.
She made it sexy, appealing. She just, she did it all with
that gothic look. And I'm very happy that she was
able to do that. Absolutely, absolutely feel the
same way. And like you said, Mandy, I, I,
I think she has more levels to go, which means there's a lot
more money to be made with somebody like that.
She, she's the real deal, man. She's a real deal for sure.
Absolutely. Were you able to catch this
promo exchange that Cody and Roman Reigns had on Smackdown?
They, they, they were down at the Georgia Tech college and
they were on the football field and it was about a 7 minute
exchange between the two of them.
But it was, it was cinematic, which the way that it was shot,
it was so tremendous and unlike anything we really have seen in
pro wrestling, not just WWE, but in pro wrestling itself.
It was almost like watching a, a, a Netflix show or even a
movie, just crisp and clean and interesting and engaging.
Building on this storyline feud between the two of them, even
though right now they're they're partnering up with each other to
go against the Bloodline. Were you able to catch that
there, Devon? I saw the last three to four
minutes of it. I definitely thought everything
you just said was right on point, cinematic everything.
I also like the part when you know, Roman said you're in my
way, you know you're in what? He kept saying that.
And then, you know, Cody steps aside and Roman takes that deep
breath in and then lets it out. And then he's kind of like, OK,
it was like that moment where you saw like, somebody should
have won an Oscar there. I mean, it was so damn good.
And I say that because of for pro wrestlers, we're not looked
upon as being good actors or anything like that.
I mean, of course, what we do in the ring and how we present
stories, yes. But when you go to that part of
the of the wrestling business, we're looked upon as being a
joke in a sense. And there's no way anybody could
those two could have been looked at as upon as a joke.
The way they handled that, I thought it was great.
I thought they really had that that feeling that, you know, the
realism of it. And it made me as a fan want to
see this match and see them actually tag up and see what's
going to happen. I was really hooked.
Yeah, same, same, 100%. That's the sort of thing that
you could show to somebody who is not a quote UN quote
wrestling fan, a quote UN quote WEWWE fan and they will be like,
no, I want to watch this. You know, it crosses over, it
crosses over and, and it's exciting.
Yep, it was that good. It really was.
So one of the interesting things going on right now, Devon, is
the NFL season has been tremendous.
You know, so many games decided by 1 touchdown or less.
And we're only three weeks into the season, but this has been
one of the more even seasons for NFL football that we've probably
ever seen. So, so what's your take, man?
I mean, what do you attribute that to that so many games are
going down to the wire and the ratings are through the roof as
a result of that. Why do you think there's so much
parity in NFL right now? Well, I think the teams are
evenly matched now. I think that has a lot to do
with it. Remember the NFL, there was a
lot of teams that weren't, weren't good, and I hate to say
it, but they really weren't. And it was only a selective few
that were. It was the same teams all the
time, the New England Patriots, sometimes the Pittsburgh
Steelers. I'm a Jet fan, so I'm raving
right now. I'm loving it right now.
You know, Aaron Rodgers doing a great job as a quarterback.
I hope that we can get some years out of him that we can,
you know, because at 40 it's hard in the NFL.
But I'm hoping you get some years out of him that we could
probably make it to a Super Bowl, if not take a Super Bowl,
I hope. But you know, again, you know,
but again, I'm just I'm just very happy that the NF LS back.
And I hate it because when you said three weeks every time I
look at the NFL every season and I'm like, oh man, we're in our
third week. And again, it just goes by
quick, real fast after that. So I'm I'm loving this season.
I hope it takes his time and and doesn't, you know, you know, get
to the 16th week that early. And I'm just praying that The
Jets make it to the Super Bowl. At least I know they'll make it
to the playoffs. As long as Rodgers stays
healthy. I'm good with that.
But again, I just think it's a lot of teams that are evenly
matched and they're they're really doing good.
They're pouring their heart and soul out this year.
Not saying that all the years before that that isn't the case,
but right now it just seems like the NFL is on fire.
Absolutely. They, they, they're knocking it
out of the park. I, I wonder, 'cause I'm a, I'm a
fantasy football guy. I, I, I have a couple of groups
of friends. One group of friends I've known
since middle school and we've had a league for years and years
and we still talk trash and and play with each other for fun.
And then a buddy of mine who I've known since kindergarten,
he has a league that I've been playing in the last couple of
years and and same thing, just really been having a good time.
Do you do the fantasy football at all, Devon?
No, I don't, unfortunately. I would love to get into it.
Somebody needs to teach me how to do it, but no, I don't.
I don't get into it. OK, All right, so everybody
listening right now, let's make this a, a, a thing.
We're going to we're going to invite Devon some fantasy
Football League so he can he can learn how to do it and, and have
some fun playing and what have you.
It's real easy, man. You, you get to pick your
quarterback, You, you literally draft the team, you draft your
offense and then you pick a defense and you, you draft your
bench as well. And then every week you just
decide who's going to start, who's going to sit and you play
against different people in your league and, and whoever has the
most points, they win. Whoever doesn't, they lose.
And you just go through the season that way.
It's, but it's what I love about it though.
It keeps me engaged in the league itself because your
players are all from different teams, you know what I mean?
So you, you end up keeping track of the scores from all the
different games going on every week because you, you got
somebody on basically on every team or close enough to it.
So it's, it's I, I, I say that that mixed with the sports
betting is why the NFL is, is so consumed now.
It's everybody is just engaged in it because of those two
mediums in particular. Right.
Well, I mean, again, I, you know, I can't stress enough,
it's on fire right now. I'm enjoying this NFL season
more than I have any other season.
So I'm just hoping again, I keep saying that I hope my Jets make
it. Listen, we ain't been good since
69, so since Joe Naman. So we thought we had something
with Ranchez, We thought we had something.
We made it to the AFC Championship and lost, and ever
since then it's been a curse. So I'm hoping and praying that
The Jets pulled one out. Listen, I'm hoping to make it to
the Super Bowl, at least before I die.
We got to make it, baby. We got to make it.
Come on now. We got to make it.
So, you know, we'll, we'll see what happens.
If anyone can do it, though, Aaron Rodgers, certainly one of
the greatest of all time. Absolutely.
If if, if anyone can do it, it's got to be him.
So we'll see what happens there. You know, something funny
happened a couple weeks back and I didn't ask you about it, but
we're, we're going to go there Devon.
And, and for all you folks out there listening, if you, if you
have kids who are listening right now, you, you may want to
tell them to go to the other room 'cause we're going, we're
going to talk about some adult stuff right now.
Real quick. Speaking of the NFL, we have the
Hall of Famer Shannon Sharp shout out to Shannon Sharpe.
You know, he, he has his two shows now, 2 podcasts, club Shay
Shay and you know, that's his, that's his main podcast feed on
YouTube and, and something that he puts a lot of time and effort
into. He had that excellent interview
with Katt Williams, which was awesome, you know, went viral.
I I think it's like the most watched interview in YouTube
history because of all the great things that was said on there
and a lot of truth was told there, which is pretty cool.
So he has that and then he has his show with Ocho Cinco, Chad
Johnson, which is a whole other level of something where these
guys just did they just start cutting up, man.
You know, they're, they're always talking their stuff
together there. So the combination of the two
really, really great things that Shannon Sharpe is doing and he's
showing what's possible life after after sports and what have
you Club Shay Shay and Nightcap. Those are his two shows.
So again, shout out to Shannon. But something interesting
happened there where Shannon somehow, someway ended up going
live on Instagram. So he, he, he claims that he, he
threw his phone on the bed and somehow, someway it turned on
Instagram live. And unfortunately he was, or, or
fortunately, however you want to look at it, he was engaging in
some adult activities. Let's say he, he had a, a lady
with him and they were doing their thing and we couldn't see
anything, but we certainly could hear what was going on.
And afterwards he, he, he went on air and apologize and say he
didn't know that his phone had cut on and people were calling
him and calling him and telling him.
And he was so mortified. He actually, he said he lost a
couple of endorsements because of it, because he's supposed to
have this clean image and all this other good stuff and what
have you. But on the flip side, he's been
selling these damn Viagra like pills, you know, as a result of
that too. So at least he could say the
product works. But I I want to get your take on
this because this is kind of funny here.
Have you ever been in a situation where your phone cut
on by accident? And if so, how did that go?
And it doesn't mean it doesn't matter what you were doing or
what was said or anything like that.
But just from a general standpoint, have you ever had a
situation like that where your phone was doing something that
you didn't want it to be doing and you and you you kind of
found yourself having to explain yourself after?
Absolutely. I mean, look, me and the guys,
this was like maybe almost a year ago in the gym, you know,
waiting for one of the other guys to come in.
We were working out and somebody told me about a site that they
saw on Twitter. So, you know, we go.
He, they, I was like, I never heard of it before.
They they, you know, they showed me.
I was like, oh, wow, interesting.
And it was an adult site. And I started scrolling up and
looking at it. Yeah, I was interested.
I'm not, I'm an adult. It wasn't like it was kid porn,
anything like that. So I'm scrolling up and I didn't
realize I was pressing the like button in the process of it.
So of course the idiots out there sword and was like, Oh my
God, Devon, like this and and basically, you know, then it was
like I was trending on Twitter for like an adult content.
I'm like, it was an adult, like what the hell is wrong with you
people? I'm an adult.
If we want to sit down and joke around and somebody wants to
show me, then fine. We were doing it in the in the
freaking gym. It was harmless and it was a
mistake in terms of liking it. And of course people like, Oh
yeah, right. You liked it by mistake.
I wasn't sitting up there trying to do it on purpose, you know,
you know, but you know, again, but it, it blew over.
It was nothing really bad. I mean, you know, in terms of
like, you know, people really, you know, down to me for it.
But you know, it was like, OK, So what big deal, the like
button was pushed on something that was an adult thing.
I'm an adult. It's I'm allowed to do that if I
want to, you know, and and people just took it left.
So my thing is, you know, what can it happen?
Absolutely. Now, do I think he should have
lost endorsement deals over that?
No, come on guys, he's a grown man having sex with a lady that
was consensual and his his phone happened and turned on and you
heard it. What is the big deal?
You're going to act like you've never had sex before with
somebody that was consensual? Give me a break.
For him to lose sponsorships over that, that's ridiculous.
It was a mistake. So what?
It wasn't like he was doing something illegal.
It wasn't like he was raping the girl or anything like that.
He had consensual sex with someone and it just so happened
that his phone would, you know, was live, you know, and I I
think people, you know, going in the uproar of that that that's
just ridiculous. It really is I.
Agree. I agree.
I agree 100%. It's consensual relations
between adults. So what, you know what I mean?
And hey, listen, give, give those folks a round of applause.
You know, that's what I say to that.
You know, Shannon and whoever the lady was, it was what it
was. But this is interesting.
I, I mean, you know, one of the things that go hand in hand
because pro wrestling is, is literally universal.
Everyone has a pro wrestling story.
Even if you're not currently a quote UN quote wrestling fan,
you remember seeing wrestling folks, you know that everybody
has at some point in their life, but a lot of porn stars are
wrestling fans and and some of them have been in the wrestling
industry because of how big of a fan they are.
Who would you say is it you were you were most surprised or, or
appreciative of that? You found out they were a
wrestling fan and and they come from that adult entertainment
world, so to speak. Jenna Jameson.
Oh yeah, we have been, because we did things with her in ECW
where she was like our manager against PG13, I think it was.
And you know, we, we had a good time, you know, storyline wise
and everything. It was in Fort Lauderdale at the
War Memorial Auditorium and we did a couple of skits and all
that. We had a great time.
It was great. You know, we, we, we made people
laugh, you know, and the whole 9:00 we, we laughed and it was,
it was a great time. So never knew Jenna Jameson had
like pro wrestling, but you know, shout out to Jenna.
You know she ever wants to come back in the ring and man to
Dudley boys again. Come on down.
I love it. You always got to get that plug
in. I love it.
And listen, for all you out there, get your mind out of the
gutter. Devon already told us earlier
he, he, he got the baby with him.
So it sounds like he's burping the baby.
So I don't want to hear no nonsense out of it.
What's Devon doing as he's talking about Jenna Jameson?
All I hear is slap, slap, slap. What's going on here?
They say the club Shay Shay situation folks, don't worry.
Yeah, I know, I'm burping my son.
He had just got finished eating so if I don't burp him he'll
lose his mind, let me tell you. But any baby will lose their
minds. Don't get burped after they eat
so. Exactly.
And listen, you didn't even have to tell me.
I knew what was going on. So I'm just letting the folk,
because you know, these folks, they they go on, they going to
be in the dirt sheets. Oh, Devon's up there.
He's doing a Club Shay shade now so.
Listen, if I'm, if I'm having, if I'm having consensual
whatever with anybody, my phone is going to be on a night stand.
I want to make sure it's off. Trust me, that's going to be
hearing that. There ain't going to be no
accidental shut on and, and and stuff like that now ain't going
to be none of that, please. No, none of that I can
guarantee, yeah. What?
What do you think it is about? Let me not say that because no
accidents happen. That's a good point.
You got to be careful for sure.
What do you think it is about pro wrestling and these adult
entertainers that it's almost like it, it goes hand in hand,
so to speak? I mean, we know that, you know,
throughout the the history, especially over the past 30
years, there been a lot of wrestlers who have dated adult
entertainers and things like that too.
I mean, do you do you find that there are some parallels between
the two worlds, so to speak? I mean, you know, some would
like to say that the adult entertainment where I'm pro
wrestling are very similar. Think about the Attitude Era.
You know, the Attitude era was nothing about it was all about
sex. That's all it was about.
And basically it went hand in hand.
I think that's why it got over so well back then.
And the the the two actually connected because they were very
similar. You know, WWE and pro wrestling
at the time was promoting sex. The adult entertainment world
promote sex, and they all got along.
Do do you think with WWE, at least with Raw moving to
Netflix, do you think we could even scratch that surface again?
Or you think that's something they just need to leave alone
and let the past be the past? You know what, cancer culture
and all of that. No, I don't see that happening
at all. I see them probably teasing it,
but I don't see them actually entering that world ever again.
You can't do it. I mean with the way society is
now is almost totally impossible.
I, I know that you're a busy man.
I mean, you, you got your bookings all over the place and,
and you got the kids that you, you're always taking them to
this, picking them up for that and school just started back up.
But I wonder, are there any, any Current TV shows or anything
like that that you've been checking out lately?
I look at a lot of the old shows like Martin, The Cosby Show,
things like that. I love those shows.
The Jeffersons, Good times. I'm an old school guy.
I don't like today's TVI really don't watch it.
But again, I go to BET or TV One, the system network of BET,
and I watch all of the old television shows.
I really don't watch anything current.
So if you mentioned it, I wouldn't even know.
I wouldn't even have an idea what it is.
Now you, you, you did drop a name to me though, and I'm going
to say it on air because you did drop a name to me, though, that
that you, that you're familiar with their work.
You were saying something about Tyler Perry before.
So are you. Are you a fan of Tyler Perry's
movies? Absolutely love Tyler Perry's
movie. I love the Madea movie.
A lot of people don't like it because they feel it's an insult
to black people. I don't feel that way at all.
I think it's pure entertainment. I take it as pure entertainment.
Does everybody in in the black and African American black
community have in the DNA family?
Absolutely they do. You line if you say you don't.
He just brings it to light. Am I going to sit here and say
that the things that Katt Williams was saying isn't is
true? No, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying it's true or isn't true.
I don't know the man like that and I really don't care.
You know, all I want to be is entertained by the movies that
he put out and I'm entertained. It makes me laugh, it makes me
cry, it makes me feel good. It makes me uneasy at times.
And I say uneasy in a good way, in a film way.
So I'm not looking at Tyler Perry as the man.
I'm looking at Tyler Perry as the director, the writer of the
movies that that I enjoy the watch.
And that's all I care about on that level.
You know, I, again, I love the Medea series.
I love, you know, all of that stuff about those movies and,
you know, the Diary of the young Black woman and all of the
stuff. Why did I get married?
You know, I love all of that stuff and I enjoy it when I
watch it. I watch it over and over again
on BET. This is interesting because you
are the son of two pastors and you know, you grew up in the
church. Your, your mom still has a, a
wonderful prominent church, which you know, I, I've, I've
been checking out on on YouTube and what have you.
So good stuff there. I I wonder would you, if the
opportunity presented itself, Devon, would you actually act in
one of Tyler Perry's productions?
And given the opportunity, Hells yes I would.
I wouldn't wear a dress, but Hells yeah I would.
You ain't going to have Katt Williams calling me out.
I was going to say, you know, Katt Williams going to be all
over you now. I would love.
To be up, but I ain't wearing no dress.
Listen, I, I'm sure Tyler Perry is very familiar with the WWE
and the Dudley Boys, especially Devon Dudley.
And, and listen, Tyler, now you know, Devon was Reverend Devon
as well. I think there may be some
opportunities here for some business to be made.
So I'm just putting that out there.
Tyler Perry, you know, if, if, if you're looking for a big
strapping experienced man, this is ATV star.
This man is, has been ATV star for over 30 years.
So I mean, there's a, there's a lot to tap into here with a guy
like Devon Dudley. So I'm just, I'm throwing it out
there. Tyler, holla at your boy for
real, for real. In fact, Devon, if, if Tyler
Perry wants to reach out to you, what's the best way he could do
that well. Shit, call me number one, but
you got to go through Duke 1st to call me.
No, but Testify Devon on Instagram and Testify Devon on
Twitter and Facebook as well. And I'm, you know, e-mail me and
you know what? Devon.dudley.96@gmail.com and
I'll answer all emails and things like that for you.
There it is. There it is.
You know, it's funny and and it's it's kind of ironic.
There's a great friend of the show by the name of Noah Kinsey.
He is a a writer and producer and also an actor and he has
done some work with Tyler Perry. So Noah, I know you're
listening. Hit me up, brother.
Let's let's let's talk and let's see if we can connect Tyler and
Devon together and see if there's some business to be made
there. I think that would be really
cool. In fact, Noah, you should be
somewhere in the writing room on that project if that's the case.
So I'm I'm throwing that out there.
I, I have no apprehension about saying these things, speaking
life into existence. That's what we got to do, folks.
You got to, you got to name it first, manifest it first, and
then you never know, it might happen.
So definitely, you know, and Tyler, again, if you're
listening, Duke loves wrestling on Facebook on on Twitter, Duke
loves wrestling@gmail.com. We will connect you with with
Devon for sure. He's a big fan of your work,
knows your work, man grew up in the church TV star already is a
established brand. Let's make it happen.
That's right, that's right. All right, Devon, it's that
time, brother. Let let's hear your your the
Devon Dudley word of the week. What do we got here?
Take care of those who you love, because you never know when
they're going to be gone. Treat them the way that you want
to be treated and love them unconditionally.
Oh testify. Take it away, Tony Shivani.
Mr. Tony Shivani and we're desperately out of time on Duke
Love.