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You are locked in. 
Listen what we have here folks, 

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to the only show that matters, 
the. 

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Queen of the crop. 
Duke loves wrestling. 

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And there is no one that does it
better than your. 

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House. 
I have come here to chew bubble 

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gum and kick ass and I'm all out
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Brothers and sisters, welcome 
back. 

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Welcome back to another 
wonderful edition of the Devon 

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and the Duke Podcast. 
This is a limited edition 

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podcast hosted by your main man.
Duke loves wrestling and of 

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course the Hall of Famer, the 
man that delivers the TV ratings

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because he's one of the greatest
of all time. 

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Brother Devon Dudley. 
How you doing there Devon? 

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Good man, how you doing? 
I am doing great. 

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Listen. 
Congratulations my brother. 

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You're on NXT this past week, 
and despite the fact that NXT 

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was preempted so it appeared on 
a Wednesday instead of its 

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normal day of Tuesday, it was 
going head to head with AEW 

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Dynamite, which was on its 
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Despite all that, you managed to
crush them and the television 

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ratings, you managed to crush 
them and social media score the 

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whole 9 yards there. 
Devon Dudley, the great 

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equalizer delivering the 
ratings. 

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How does that feel bro? 
Well, I don't want to say it was

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a complete effort on my part. 
I think it was a complete effort

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on everybody's part in NXT. 
The whole talent, the whole 

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roster did an excellent job and 
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I was, I was scared and a little
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this is the ECW Arena. 
It's do or die and you have to 

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make sure that you come correct,
especially when you start 

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talking about hardcore matches. 
And the opening match really, 

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really did a great job. 
But it was a women's match, not 

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to sound sexist, but it was a 
women's match. 

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They did a hardcore and really 
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So I congratulated both women 
and thought they did an 

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excellent job and they really 
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And again, that's hard, 
especially when it's women in 

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the ECW arena. 
I hate to say it, but you have 

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to know the history to 
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Understand where I'm coming from
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Absolutely. 
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respect and appreciation shown 
to both Jada Parker and Lola 

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Vice. 
They they put on an excellent 

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match there. 
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of each other. 
There was a brick in the match, 

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the whole 9 yards there. 
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weren't chanting, you know, 
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the ladies, like the heyday of 
ECW where it was, you know, show

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your, you know, what's and all 
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and all that crap. 
None of that was going on. 

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So it's definitely a modernized 
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competitors in there, those two 
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But you're absolutely right. 
They set the tone for the entire

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night, and it was just an 
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Excellent episode of NXT, 
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You were a major surprise, man. 
Now you know I got a bone to 

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pick with you hit Devon, because
you didn't even tell us last 

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week that you were going to be 
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What's up with that? 
Well, again, that's the 

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surprise. 
I wasn't going to tell you. 

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And that that was because, you 
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You know, it's not like back in 
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no Internet. 
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anything like that. 
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the time the dirt sheets got a 
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happened. 
So it wasn't something that, you

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know, we actually that we 
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anymore. 
And we don't have that luxury of

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doing stuff like that anymore. 
So the bottom line with that is 

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being able to not let the people
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I thought it was great. 
And that's why we try to keep it

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hush hush because it spoils it. 
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with wrestling when you didn't 
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Like, for instance, I'll give 
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coming back from the AWA to help
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Samoans, Alpha and Seeker, of 
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dad and uncle. 
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in the back to get Hogan, we had
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happen. 
You know, he comes out and the 

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whole arena exploded and that 
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Hulk Hogan's return back to the 
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Now, think about it. 
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had the Internet and things like
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going to be there, it would not 
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We would have already have known
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they filmed four and five weeks 
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Well said. 
Well said. 

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You're absolutely right. 
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matters in pro wrestling, and 
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way. 
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what happened in this case. 
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ratings on social media, the 
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Speaking of the dirt sheets, you
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discussion by some of these 
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like to call these Jelly backs, 
according to Corey Brennan over 

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at Fight For which, you know, 
it's a, it's a tabloid, it's a 

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gossip rag. 
They charge people and half the 

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time they're saying things are 
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And this Corey Brennan 
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a habit of just completely 
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stuff. 
He's been caught, he's been 

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called out and he continues to 
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So in this case, he states 
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the reason Devon Dudley remained
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NXT is that he is not medically 
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NXT notes available now on Fight
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So of course, they got to get 
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They got to hustle people out of
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This Corey Brennan person first 
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Fight For. 
Did they reach out and speak to 

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you directly, Deema? 
No, they didn't. 

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And you know, that's one of the 
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to my nerves about the dirt 
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it because they think they got 
an accurate story. 

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They're doing it so people can 
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money and all that list. 
You guys can go fuck yourselves.

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OK, As far as I'm concerned, 
each and every one of you pieces

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of shit. 
Number one, it wasn't the fact 

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that I didn't get cleared 
because of my health. 

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OK, that's one. 
No one can just walk into AWWE 

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ring and get and and just 
wrestle anymore. 

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You have to go through the the 
protocols every time. 

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My son's going to be extras in 
WWE. 

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They have to get blood work and 
all of that done. 

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Well, that wasn't done. 
And understand one thing. 

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The stroke that I had and the 
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five years ago. 
I got cleared three or four. 

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I got cleared about 3 or 4 years
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the stroke. 
The stroke is no longer an 

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issue. 
That's one. 

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Number two, am I lingering with 
the fact that I'm still feeling 

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a little pain here and there 
with the back surgery? 

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Absolutely. 
Tell me one person that had back

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surgery that doesn't have a 
lingering effect of the back 

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surgery. 
So again, you guys go fuck 

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yourselves and everything that 
you, all the misinformation that

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you've given out to the public. 
No, my health is not in jeopardy

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and no, it wasn't because I 
couldn't wrestle or anything 

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like that. 
It was the fact that again, I 

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did not go to medical to get 
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And by the time I got to the 
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So that was the reason why it 
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There are certain people that 
don't get cleared because of 

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medical reasons, but that wasn't
the case for me. 

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It was, again, I'll say it 
again, it was because I did not 

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do the proper screening or take 
the proper test to go in there 

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to do what I had to do, to be 
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the ball was dropped. 
So I'm not saying it was WWE's 

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fault, and I'm not saying it was
my fault, but again, it 

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happened. 
Get over it. 

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Stop trending over stupid 
bullshit. 

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And I'm tired. 
Every time I turn around you 

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guys are just dragging my name 
in the dirt for no reason. 

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Every opportunity you get, you 
like to fuck with me. 

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Well, again, go fuck yourselves.
Well, it's about me and Bubba 

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not being together anymore, or 
we hate each other, or it's my 

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health. 
Go fuck yourself. 

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You hear that straight from the 
source, folks, and you don't 

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have to go to the dirt sheets 
and let them lie to you for, 

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for, you know, 999-1299, 
whatever they're charging people

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and robbing them on. 
There was no medical issue that 

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prevented Devon Dudley for being
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You just heard it from him. 
He just explained to you exactly

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what happened. 
No one would know that better 

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than him. 
And if there's anyone who would 

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know that better than him, then 
they can speak up. 

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Put your name on it and let's 
hear from you. 

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You know, but these dirt sheets 
just spinning their own tails 

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and, you know, essentially 
hustling people out of their 

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money and lying to them, It it 
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There's no integrity in this 
this wrestling media because you

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have a bunch of bozos who are so
poor at their job and they don't

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realize you're affecting real 
lives and saying this, the way 

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that this Corey Brennan at 
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the way that Fightful has ran 
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Yvonne future bookies. 
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What, what if Devon wanted to to
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something and, and, and is OK to
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You, you saying he's not 
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Now you're, you're hurting his 
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And I'm just going to tell you 
folks right now, people get sued

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for less than that. 
So you better start being a lot 

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more careful, especially when 
you speak on this Hall of Fame 

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right here, because we're not 
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Simple as that. 
Speaking of Bubba, you and and 

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Bubba were together again. 
Not only in NXT, but you also 

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were together this past weekend 
at a major convention, right? 

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Yes, we were the big event in 
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We had a great time. 
The fans were fantastic and they

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came in droves. 
And you know, we made a lot of 

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money. 
I had a lot to say that, and we 

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really enjoyed ourselves. 
It was great to see the fans in 

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Long Island. 
You know, I'm from New York, I'm

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from Brooklyn, NY, born and 
raised, but I also spent time in

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Long Island. 
I actually grew up about 20 

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minutes away from where we had 
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see some friends and some people
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encountered over the years that 
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They came to say hello because 
they knew me and Bubba were 

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going to be there. 
And Bubba actually lived 5 

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minutes away from the building. 
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facility was 10 minutes away 
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Me and Bubba were reminiscing 
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me and Bubba met. 
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we're brothers from different 
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basically met at the ECW Arena. 
So we were talking about that 

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and it was great to see, you 
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past from yesterday and then the
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I love Tommy from Big Event who 
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He's been nothing but great to 
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And any time that, you know, I 
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a show, he would always invite 
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So pick up to our big event and 
doing everything with class. 

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That show went off without a 
hitch. 

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Everybody made money, everybody 
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The fans appreciate everything 
that we had did and I'm very 

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happy to say that, you know, 
next year I'll be doing Big 

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event again. 
Congratulations and of course 

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shout out to Big Event in the 
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You knocked it out of the park 
and it's another example, the 

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Big Event River City Wrestling 
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There were certain conventions 
that just get it right and it 

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starts with being professional 
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A lot of you other folks out 
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conventions or thinking about 
starting a convention, you 

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should be taking a look at the 
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at their business model and, and
listening to these, you know, 

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legends like Devon Dudley, who 
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had such a great time. 
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going to be back. 
So that tells you everything you

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need to know about how well this
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In fact, if you go on to 
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you'll see video of the line not
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whole place was packed. 
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of great promotion. 
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delivering on quality service, 
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for the superstars, the legends,
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When everybody's feeling good, 
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make money and make memories. 
So keep that in mind. 

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All of you convention folks out 
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There's a right way to do it. 
Unfortunately, so many of you do

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it the wrong way. 
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you create a bad rap for 
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So that's, that's pretty 
interesting. 

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It's pretty interesting. 
So you got something else going 

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on, brother. 
And, and I guess we're going to 

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break an exclusive here. 
A little birdie told me that you

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have some things going on with 
your YouTube channel, what 

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you're going to be revealing 
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So I'm going to put you on the 
spot now. 

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What's going on with Devon 
Dudley on YouTube? 

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Well, I'm actually on my way 
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school. 
We're going to film a few 

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episodes there and one of my 
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Maven from Tough Enough, WWE, 
Tough Enough will be there also 

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to join me. 
We're going to be shooting a few

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episodes. 
I've done work with him on his 

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YouTube show. 
So he wanted to come and help me

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with mine and to get it started.
I've never ever done had a 

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YouTube channel and I've always 
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So I was at the convention and 
the people that are doing it 

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basically came to me and asked 
me would I like to do it. 

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I said well, hell yeah. 
I just never had the right 

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producers or people to come in 
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it. 
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down anywhere or fly me anywhere
to go. 

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Do you know the different 
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So I was very happy to hear that
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So we're going to start shooting
it today. 

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I will announce when the first 
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we'll definitely go from there. 
So it should be really good. 

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I'm really excited about it. 
So this is some type of reality 

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TV series basically, right? 
I would say yes, because my kids

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We're going to do different 
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you know, around the house. 
Maybe me being dad showing that 

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side of me that people don't 
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limelight, you know, their life 
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they're, they're involved in. 
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a different light to see me do 
what I do when the cameras 

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aren't rolling, but only this 
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Well, listen, shout out to the 
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Devon and the Duke. 
You keep saying that you love 

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hearing about the family man 
Devon Dudley and and how 

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interesting that is to to see 
that that gentle side of this, 

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this big hulking legend here. 
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more of it on the on the YouTube
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future. 
And shout out to Maven. 

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I mean, this guy has just been 
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He's on Piers Morgan. 
He was on Vlad TV, which he's 

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been getting, you know, high 
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Vlad Most recently. 
Maven is cooking man. 

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In fact, I'm going to put a 
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reached out to Vlad and I put a 
bug in his ear. 

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So, you know, Devon, let's let's
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well. 
I believe it would be wonderful 

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for Devon Dudley to do an 
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It's one of the top YouTube 
interview shows around and a lot

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of other wrestlers have been on 
there and have done pretty well.

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Maven the most recent. 
And Maven actually puts you way 

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over during his interview on 
Vlad. 

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So, so what's up? 
You know, Vlad, reach out to 

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Devon. 
Let's get this going. 

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You got to get Devon on your 
show as well. 

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I think that would be a match 
made in heaven. 

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And Devon can open up even more 
about his upcoming YouTube 

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series during that. 
So I'm I'm putting the gauntlet 

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out there. 
I'm putting the challenge out 

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there. 
What do you think about that, 

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Devon? 
I'm going to do it. 

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You know I can't have Maven have
one up on me. 

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Listen, there was a meme going 
around and I'm going to tease 

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baby a little bit and I mean 
disrespectfully, brother. 

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So, you know, don't come looking
for me now. 

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Maybe come on now, I know you 
still got that drop kick. 

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Don't come looking for me, but 
there was a meme going around 

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that every time Maven does an 
interview, he talks as if he was

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he was Ric Flair the Rock and 
everybody rolled up into one. 

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So, So let's let's get the truth
from somebody who was there the 

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whole damn time. 
Now maven, where would you rank 

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him, especially during his 
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We know that he got a lot of TV 
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We know that he was utilized as 
somebody to market WW ES foray 

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into reality TV and it was 
effective. 

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It worked out. 
That's why you had Tough enough 

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last as long as it did. 
And then Total Divas eventually 

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spun off and things. 
So this is, you know, the miss 

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and misses. 
All this stuff comes from Tough 

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Enough originally, but from your
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this big super duper superstar 
or, or you know, was he just 

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more like a regular guy? 
What's what's the real story 

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here? 
I don't think Maven got his just

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do. 
There were certain people in the

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art in the office that didn't 
like Maven just due to the fact 

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that he came off a tough enough.
And, you know, there were a lot 

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of people who were agents at the
time that didn't really care for

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him. 
And, you know, when you have 

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agents that don't care for you, 
that can be bad because they're 

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the ones that's going to 
influence the office, whether to

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to use you or not to use you. 
And there were times when Maven 

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was hot. 
You know, Maven was able to get 

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the crowd where he needed to be,
especially when he turned heel 

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and got the people that hate 
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It was really, really good and 
it got snatched from underneath 

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him. 
He never got the opportunity to 

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finish. 
And you hear stories like that 

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all the time in pro wrestling, 
especially in WWE, where there 

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might be somebody in the office 
who's at higher up who may not 

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like you because you said hello 
to them on a wrong day. 

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And that's usually the case. 
Maven was a tremendous athlete. 

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He was a school teacher before 
he came into professional 

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wrestling. 
And then, you know, turn pro 

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wrestler, you get an excellent 
job on a television show. 

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Tough Enough, which we all saw, 
which was the first Tough Enough

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winner to be crowned, him and 
Lydia. 

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And you know, it was it was a 
great thing for me. 

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So it really skyrocketed his 
career because remember, being 

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on WWTV is special, but being on
MTV is even more special. 

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And the ratings for MTV went 
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So Maven was very light and plus
Maven was extremely easy on the 

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eyes, you know, very good 
looking guy, nice body. 

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He basically carried himself 
very well on TV. 

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The girls loved him and that was
a big plus. 

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So when he left the WWE and went
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show. 
I think it was not. 

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I think it might have been The 
Real World. 

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I'm not sure the name of the 
show that he was on, but it was 

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a reality show that did 
extremely well. 

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And I remember going into clubs 
and things like that with him 

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and these girls who never, you 
know, with a in a million years 

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watched wrestling or guys that 
never watched wrestling, but 

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they watched MTV and they all 
knew him, you know. 

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So he had the popularity because
of WWE, but extremely because of

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MTV. 
The Surreal Life, that's what it

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was called. 
And, you know, he basically, he 

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really got a really huge fan 
base because of that. 

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So, but in terms of wrestling, 
he was a tremendous athlete. 

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Maven could go, you know, when 
given the opportunity, he was 

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very eager to learn. 
He was hungry. 

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And you know when he got in the 
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something, he was able to do it.
High praise, high praise for 

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Maven. 
And you're absolutely right, 

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this guy had that Southern charm
going on and you know, to be 

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good looking, great shape, great
communicator, which of course, 

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you know, working in education, 
certainly you have to be a great

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communicator in order to do 
that. 

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All of those things were the 
perfect storm for this guy. 

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You're absolutely right. 
And he got over, there's no 

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question about it, not just in 
wrestling, but outside. 

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So, you know, definitely shout 
out to him. 

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I wonder if you take a maven, 
all those intangibles, exactly 

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who he is, same exact person, 
and you drop him into today's 

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WWE, how far do you think that 
guy would go? 

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Given the right opportunity and 
the chance, I think very far, I 

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think the Sky's the limit. 
And you know what also helped 

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Maven? 
I don't know if people remember,

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but his mother, God rest her 
soul, phenomenal woman. 

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I loved her to death. 
She was a phenomenal woman. 

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She had cancer. 
And while Maven was going 

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through the show, you know, the 
WWE captured that on film where 

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she was going through chemo and 
trying to fight the battle of 

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cancer. 
It was unfortunate she lost her 

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battle, but, you know, and it 
devastated Maven. 

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But one of the things that 
Maven, you know, had always said

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to me that he was going to make 
his mother proud and that he was

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going to make it. 
And that's what drove Maven to 

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do what he was doing, you know, 
in the WWE. 

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And so, you know, that was what 
that was. 

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That was one of the biggest 
stories. 

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And tough enough out of all the 
stories there were, that was one

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that really stood out to me. 
And not only because he's my 

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best friend, but just the story 
was so compelling. 

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And it was so it made you, it 
drew you in. 

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And it was something that people
really, really could relate to 

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because everybody in their 
family, unfortunately, has to 

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deal with losing someone to 
cancer. 

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You know, it's a nasty disease. 
And, you know, hopefully one day

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we can find the cure. 
But it's just one of those 

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things where that really 
resonated with a lot of people. 

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And I think that's also what got
the people behind Maven during 

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that time. 
Well said. 

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Well said. 
Wow. 

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Yeah, That's that's a great 
point. 

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You just reminded me of that, 
that that journey with his mom. 

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Yeah. 
That that allowed people to see 

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a different side and, and, and 
get a glimpse of who the man is 

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behind the persona. 
And, and that certainly helped 

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build that fan base. 
That's good call. 

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Good call. 
And again, shout out to Maven. 

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That's a guy that I'm glad he's 
getting a second act, so to 

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speak. 
I'm glad that he's back in 

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spotlight because he has a lot 
to offer. 

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Love it listening to him talk 
again, guys, just a great 

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communicator. 
So he's in my opinion, he's a 

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great ambassador for pro 
wrestling as well because he's 

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so good at expressing whatever 
he has to say and telling 

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stories and things like that. 
And he's never crapping on the 

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business either. 
It's always something that you 

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can walk away with the newfound 
respect for what you've you guys

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and ladies put out there. 
So you know, shout out for sure.

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You know, it's, it's 
interesting, Devon, because 

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there's two ways to go. 
You can be the salty, grizzled 

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veteran that gives the young 
folks a hard time and takes 

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advantage of them and makes 
their experience miserable. 

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And certainly we have countless 
examples of those sort of things

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happening throughout the history
of pro wrestling. 

448
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,280
But when it comes to Devon 
Dudley, all we ever hear is how 

449
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:58,360
respectful and dare I say, 
gentle and relatable you always 

450
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,560
are with everyone, especially 
people who are pretty, you know,

451
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,440
new in the business and just 
breaking in. 

452
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,840
It's It's not a surprise that 
you ended up becoming a trainer 

453
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:10,680
and an excellent trainer and 
teacher and what have you in 

454
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,280
your own right. 
But even before then, where you 

455
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,960
were still at the height of your
career and being active, and you

456
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,880
could have been a jerk if you 
wanted to be, why were you so 

457
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,440
accommodating and respectful of 
people who didn't have as much 

458
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440
experience when other folks were
smacking them around and giving 

459
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,280
them a hard time? 
How come you didn't do the the 

460
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,840
grizzled veteran thing and 
instead you did the humanity 

461
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
thing? 
Because I didn't like it. 

462
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040
I thought it was wrong. 
And remember, I wasn't a second 

463
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,240
generation wrestler. 
My mom was not in my corner at 

464
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,200
all when it came to wrestling. 
Just for the simple fact that I 

465
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,640
had a four year scholarship to 
Florida and them to play 

466
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,680
football and I turned it down, 
you know, I just didn't feel 

467
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,960
that football was my passion. 
Although I love the contact, I 

468
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,400
love hitting. 
I just did not feel that 

469
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,040
football was my passion. 
So when I decided to pass up 

470
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,080
that scholarship, you know, 
again, how do I say this? 

471
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,880
And my mother's a reverend, my 
father's a reverend, they're 

472
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,880
both preachers. 
So when I pass up that 

473
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,520
scholarship, I was like Satan in
my mother's eyes. 

474
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920
She boy, she called me every 
name but my name. 

475
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,120
And at first she thought it was 
a joke when I told her, yeah, 

476
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,360
I'm not going to wrestle. 
I'm not going to play football 

477
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:36,560
anymore, I'm going to do pro 
wrestling, she laughed at 1st. 

478
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,880
And when the scouts called and 
they were ready for me to go and

479
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,480
visit the school, and I told 
them no, she was irate. 

480
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,040
She thought it was a joke. 
And I had to leave the house and

481
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,200
everything. 
It was bad, man. 

482
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,760
And so I had to learn this 
business on my own. 

483
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,080
I had people like Tommy Dreamer 
and Paul Heyman to help me along

484
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,200
the way. 
But I made mistakes and I fell, 

485
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,640
and luckily I was able to get 
back up. 

486
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:11,000
But I knew that it was going to 
be hard for me to make it. 

487
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,320
And, you know, I didn't think I 
would make it to this level. 

488
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,200
I never dreamed in a million 
years that I would get this far 

489
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,560
in the business. 
I never saw it coming. 

490
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,040
I also never saw me, you know, 
being in the same category as a 

491
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,040
legendary tag team, the Road 
Warriors. 

492
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,440
You know, I never thought that 
me and Bubba would reach that 

493
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,560
height. 
I mean, that's huge. 

494
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,880
And to be able to accomplish 
that and to be, you know, known 

495
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,400
as the most decorated tag team 
in the history of the business, 

496
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,720
I just never thought that I 
would ever reach that. 

497
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,880
It was just something that I was
very proud of. 

498
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Once I did accomplish it and or 
on my way to doing it and 

499
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,240
knowing that I didn't have to 
help along the way from being a 

500
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,520
second generation wrestler, I 
always knew that if I had the 

501
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,200
opportunity to help somebody or 
to guide them, that I would. 

502
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,040
And I'm not going to be like the
veterans who are salty and 

503
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,760
bitter because the career is 
over and they have nothing to 

504
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,480
offer in that sense anymore. 
Being in the ring, there's a lot

505
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,600
more you can offer other than 
being in the spotlight and still

506
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,200
being number one. 
You know, I felt gratification 

507
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,600
when, you know, I was a producer
backstage and, you know, I felt 

508
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,480
like I was given one of the 
hardest jobs. 

509
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,440
And I say that because of who 
they put me to produce their 

510
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,640
matches all the time, which was 
The New Day and the Usos, you 

511
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,880
know, we wrestled both tag teams
and help elevate them to get 

512
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,320
them to another level. 
But for me to be a producer for 

513
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,440
them, it was challenging for me 
because these guys were already 

514
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,200
smart to the business. 
So to have me come in and to try

515
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,880
to tell them what to do, at 
first I thought they were like, 

516
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,280
man, get out of here. 
We know what we're doing. 

517
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Besides, we wrestled your ass. 
You know, I didn't know if they 

518
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,400
would take to me like that, but 
they did. 

519
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,160
And you know, every time I see 
the new day, you know, they're 

520
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,880
always give me, you know, that 
that welcome. 

521
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Every time I see the Usos, 
they're always telling me thank 

522
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,280
you, you know, because I was 
there to really help them to get

523
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,200
to that next level. 
Because at one point in time, 

524
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,680
you know, Jay and Jimmy were a 
little frustrated because it 

525
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000
just seemed like at the time 
during the Vince regime that 

526
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,720
yes, they were good, but not at 
that level where they are now. 

527
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,040
I thought they could have gotten
that level a long time ago, but 

528
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400
it didn't seem like the office 
was ready for them. 

529
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,440
Maybe they weren't. 
Maybe if given the opportunity 

530
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,680
back then, they would not have 
been able to strike the way they

531
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920
are now. 
And it's one of those things 

532
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,600
where now they're like really 
benefited from what they are 

533
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,160
doing now. 
And not to mention, you know, 

534
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,120
sometimes you got to fall from 
grace in order to, you know, 

535
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,560
succeed to where God wants to 
put you. 

536
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,400
And I firmly believe that. 
I think Shaq said it best. 

537
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Shaq said you have to fail in 
order to be successful. 

538
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,680
You just can't be successful 
right off the bat. 

539
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,760
You have to fail at things. 
So then you learn how to be 

540
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
successful, and I think the Usos
did that. 

541
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,760
And This is why they're in the 
position that they're in right 

542
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280
now, and This is why the New Day
is in a position that they're in

543
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,240
right now. 
So I was very happy to be a part

544
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,600
of that and to be able to help 
them to get to that level, not 

545
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,760
only in the ring, but outside 
the ring as a producer. 

546
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,000
I mean, the proof is in the 
pudding. 

547
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,840
You know, after you and, and, 
and Bubba had those series of 

548
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,080
matches, those feuds with both 
teams, every single one of those

549
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,960
guys went on to be far more 
successful, including as singles

550
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520
wrestlers. 
So there's no question about it.

551
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,400
They needed that, that passing 
of the torch, that stamp of 

552
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,600
approval in the ring from you 
guys, from the Dudley Boys, and 

553
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,440
that extra bit of guidance from 
a mentor like Devon Dudley. 

554
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,480
I mean, it's that's, that's 
awesome. 

555
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Awesome. 
I want, I want you to also 

556
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,120
remember it's not just Devon, it
was Bubba too. 

557
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,640
You know, I, you know, I know 
sometimes he likes to say and 

558
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,560
talk a bunch of shit about me. 
I'm busted open. 

559
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,880
But you know, it's brotherly 
love. 

560
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,480
I don't take it personal, but 
Bubba was very instrumental in 

561
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,840
in helping in that way as well. 
As far as I'm concerned, when it

562
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,800
comes to the knowledge of the 
business, I don't think there's 

563
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,280
nobody better than Bubba. 
I think Bubba is truly the Pat 

564
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Patterson of this era. 
And you know, he can come up 

565
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,480
with finishes and promos and 
things like that off the top of 

566
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,720
his head without even thinking. 
He's just that good. 

567
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,880
I learned a lot from Bubba, you 
know, because I learned 

568
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,960
backwards. 
I learned how to wrestle first 

569
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,840
and then learn the psychology 
and everything else about the 

570
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,200
business after where Bubba 
learned the psychology and 

571
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,400
everything else 1st and then the
in ring ability. 

572
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,520
So, you know, it was, it was 
different and we both, that's 

573
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,040
why I think we gelled so well 
because we both played off each 

574
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,720
other when I was weak and he was
strong and when I was strong and

575
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,440
he was weak and we were able to 
counter that. 

576
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,560
I mean, that's that's high 
praise. 

577
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,680
That's high praise, no question.
You hear the way the fans react 

578
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,440
anytime you folks are together, 
anytime you're doing anything on

579
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,160
TV, at live events, the 
merchandise coming out. 

580
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,360
The Dudley Boys as a brand is as
strong in 2024 as it's ever 

581
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,880
been. 
And that is a testament to the 

582
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,880
hard work that you both have put
in and the confidence that 

583
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,560
you've earned from Paul Heyman, 
from Vince McMahon, from Triple 

584
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,520
H, from Nick Khan, you know, 
from the company in general. 

585
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,480
So, you know, kudos to you guys 
collectively. 

586
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,280
And Bub, I'm going to tell you 
right now on that Busted open 

587
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,320
radio, you have a you you have a
habit of putting yourself over 

588
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,560
and kind of, you know, taking 
your foot off the gas a little 

589
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000
bit when it comes to, to my man 
here, Devon. 

590
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Bubba, I'm just going to tell 
you right now, brother, come on 

591
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,960
now. 
You heard the way he just put 

592
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
you over. 
Devon ain't going to say this 

593
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320
because he he, he's a, he's too 
respectful to say this. 

594
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920
But I'm going to say it, Bubba. 
You can put your brother over a 

595
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,920
little bit stronger than that, 
OK? 

596
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
And I'll leave it at that, OK? 
I'm gonna defend you. 

597
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,880
You know, I'm gonna defend you, 
brother. 

598
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,120
You know, I'm gonna do it. 
You know, the smallest guy in 

599
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,840
the room here against these 
giants. 

600
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,120
I'm gonna defend you. 
I don't give a damn. 

601
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,480
You know, it is what it is. 
But it's love. 

602
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,320
It's love for sure. 
So I. 

603
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720
OK, now, Devon, you got to give 
it to a straight now because 

604
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,960
you've been doing a lot of 
traveling. 

605
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,800
You, you, you made your East 
Coast tour over the past two 

606
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,800
weeks. 
So what was the best thing that 

607
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,520
you ate that reminded you of the
old days or what have you? 

608
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880
What did you, what was the thing
that you couldn't wait to get 

609
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,040
another one of those? 
And you haven't had it in a 

610
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,040
while And and it was great. 
What do you mean within the 

611
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,080
past? 
Two weeks you were in, you were 

612
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,600
in Rhode Island, you were in 
Philly. 

613
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,800
You, you were back in New York. 
You were all over the place. 

614
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,159
So did you, did you get a pizza?
Did you get a sandwich? 

615
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,679
What was it? 
What made you think of home when

616
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,560
you were on your tour here? 
No, you know, I got to say I did

617
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,880
not indulge in anything, 
unfortunately. 

618
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,040
I, I should have went to Gino's 
in Philadelphia, but I didn't, 

619
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,960
you know, because I had been 
doing the DDP yoga and dieting 

620
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,520
the way I was. 
I was scared to eat. 

621
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,760
I'm really scared to eat 
anything that I used to eat. 

622
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Just simply fact that I don't 
want to gain any weight. 

623
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,960
So it's one of those things 
where, you know, I, I basically 

624
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,880
try to watch what I eat at all 
times, but then there's times 

625
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:03,280
when I don't care because I'm 
not an active full time wrestler

626
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,680
anymore. 
So I just don't care. 

627
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,320
But I, I may indulge that one 
time. 

628
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,520
No, I take that back. 
I did. 

629
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,480
There was a place that we went 
to before the show and after the

630
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,400
show. 
It was called Chickies. 

631
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:26,160
It was in Philadelphia, right by
the stadium, and they had some 

632
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,160
wings that were out of sight. 
It was probably one of the best 

633
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,560
wings I've ever had. 
Wings. 

634
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,400
OK now Now how did you get your 
wings? 

635
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,360
BBQ. 
OK. 

636
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,240
Bone in right? 
Bone in, not the boneless. 

637
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,200
You get the bone in. 
OK, now here we go. 

638
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,840
Are are you are you drums or are
you flats? 

639
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,320
Which which Which is your 
favorite? 

640
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,640
I love drums. 
Wow, wow. 

641
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,840
I guess you and I would never 
argue because I'm a flats guy 

642
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,840
all the way, man. 
I got to have my flats. 

643
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,280
I prefer it so you could have 
all the drums. 

644
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,280
That's that's straight there. 
I just feel, I just feel the 

645
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,680
drums a lot easier to eat, you 
know, you got to eat in between 

646
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,480
the flats. 
Got it, got it. 

647
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,280
You want to get right to it, 
Just get it done. 

648
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,600
I got you. 
I got you. 

649
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Now you, you said you should 
have went to Gino's. 

650
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,240
So what's going on here, Devon? 
Because you know that this is a 

651
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,640
big divide. 
We got Gino's, we got Pats. 

652
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,160
You know, when it comes to a 
Philly cheesesteak, you're a 

653
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Gino's guy, huh? 
Well, I've never been to Pat's. 

654
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,720
I've heard of Pat's, but I've 
never been, so I don't even know

655
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,320
if Pat's was there during my ECW
run. 

656
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,280
It might have been, I just 
didn't know about it. 

657
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,360
So Gino's was always the place 
for you. 

658
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Gino's was always the place that
everybody went, believe it or 

659
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,640
not. 
I don't think I'm wrong. 

660
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,080
I, I could be, I'm sure some 
people might dispute what I'm 

661
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,760
saying, but I don't think I'm 
wrong. 

662
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,560
That's amazing. 
Again, I'm not putting that. 

663
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,080
I'm not putting Pats down. 
I don't. 

664
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,880
I'm not saying Pats is not good.
I just never had Pats and I 

665
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,720
really never heard anybody 
really talk about it like they 

666
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,840
do Chino's. 
Interesting, interesting. 

667
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,160
Now you would go with the cheese
whiz or would you get the real 

668
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,800
cheese? 
What? 

669
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,840
What are we doing here on the on
the on the cheese steak? 

670
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,160
I get the real cheese. 
There it is. 

671
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,080
See. 
See. 

672
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Same way. 
See. 

673
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Listen, in Boston, we call it a 
steak and cheese sub, all right?

674
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,440
There's no cheese steak. 
It's a it's a steak and cheese 

675
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,040
sub. 
That's what we call it. 

676
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
And we use real cheese. 
We don't use this whatever the 

677
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,840
hell that cheese whiz stuff is. 
All right, this is a big divide 

678
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
that we have with Philly. 
I know you're a New York guy 

679
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,800
technically, so you could be the
referee here, but I maintained a

680
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,040
steak and cheese sub in Boston. 
I'll put that up against any 

681
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Philly cheese steak any day of 
the week. 

682
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,240
What do you think about that? 
I think you should do it, but 

683
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,120
you know, there is one place. 
There is one place I wanted to 

684
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,240
go, but somebody tapped out on 
me and then wasn't able to make 

685
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,440
it. 
I wanted to go to Kowloon's 

686
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,960
restaurant and wasn't able to 
make it because a certain person

687
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,720
stood me up. 
We had all these plans, Cigar 

688
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,720
Bar, Kowloon's, and we never did
it. 

689
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Folks, this man, now this man 
knows that outside of this 

690
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,120
wrestling podcasting world, you 
know, I'm in the political realm

691
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,560
and I won't get too deep into 
it. 

692
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,200
But you know what I mean by 
that's who those of you who know

693
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
and unfortunately, you know, 
election weekend, Yeah, I 

694
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,280
couldn't do it. 
And I was, I was so heartbroken 

695
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,880
because I wanted to hang with my
brother. 

696
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,800
And you're right. 
We should have went to Kowloons.

697
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,760
We probably would have gotten 
into trouble because, you know, 

698
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,360
you start drinking the Mai Tais.
At least me, I start drinking 

699
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,480
the Mai Tais, man, I might get, 
you know who. 

700
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Who knows what's going to 
happen? 

701
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,120
I'll be doing karaoke after 
that. 

702
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,520
Well my lady got me into Crown, 
apple and Cranberry so I'm into 

703
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,280
that now. 
Oh boy. 

704
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,960
OK, OK, so a little bit of 
sweet, little bit of tart, and 

705
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,160
definitely strong, huh? 
Bro, it's good. 

706
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,760
Now do we do it with ice or you 
just take it neat like that? 

707
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960
No, I don't know. 
We do some ice, do some ice, add

708
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,240
a little, add a little, add a 
little chill to it, you know? 

709
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,960
Wow, Crown, apple and cranberry.
I'm going to have to try that 

710
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,560
next. 
I'm. 

711
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Telling you it's the drink she's
got, she's got me drinking it. 

712
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,800
That sounds delicious. 
You know, one of the things that

713
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,200
and and this is the pandemic was
so terrible to everybody. 

714
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Everything was was shut down for
for such a long period of time. 

715
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,280
But the good part is people 
picked up new skills. 

716
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,240
So I started making my own 
drinks and things like that. 

717
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680
You know what I mean? 
And, and one of the things that 

718
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,360
I figured out, if you go and get
an Italian ice, you can go to 

719
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
the restaurant, you can go to 
the grocery store and pick up 

720
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,400
Italian ice. 
You throw that in a blender and 

721
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,040
then you put your rum or your 
vodka or your whatever, your 

722
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,280
gin, you blend that sucker up. 
That's a hell of a drink right 

723
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
there, brother, you know what I 
mean? 

724
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,040
You got yourself a nice frozen 
drink right there. 

725
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,840
Well, next time, next time we're
together, we definitely have to 

726
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,880
do it. 
But I'm very disappointed about 

727
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,400
that cigar bar. 
I'm more I'm more disappointed 

728
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,360
about the cigar bar than I am 
Caloons. 

729
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,840
Well, listen, you didn't have 
any of this. 

730
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:11,240
The the the new special edition 
Devon Dudley cigars through the 

731
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:14,160
notorious cigar company there. 
We're still waiting on that that

732
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,280
batch to come in. 
Man, Well, it's actually, it's 

733
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
actually there at Fairway Cigar 
in Melbourne. 

734
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,080
I haven't gone and pick it up 
yet because I've been away. 

735
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,280
So they called me and told me 
that it came in. 

736
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,080
So I'm actually going to go pick
it up. 

737
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,280
I love it. 
I love it. 

738
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,280
Listen folks, you got to get 
yourself some of these new 

739
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,120
edition Devon Dudley cigars 
through the Torah Cigar Company 

740
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Fairway. 
They know how to how to hook it 

741
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,640
up. 
So you can definitely reach out 

742
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,800
to those folks there. 
But if you or anyone in your 

743
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,040
family likes to indulge in a 
fine cigar, Devon Dudley has his

744
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,000
own special batch here. 
So let's get right to it, you 

745
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,600
know what I'm saying? 
That's that's good stuff. 

746
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,160
That's good stuff. 
Listen, Devon, we just had a 

747
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,600
special birthday celebration for
one of our loyal listeners and 

748
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,200
she's a huge fan of yours 
throughout your entire career. 

749
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,600
A young lady by the name of 
Cortana Rice, AKA the Silver 

750
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Fox. 
She is a school teacher, a 

751
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,440
mother or grandmother. 
Most importantly, she is a 

752
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,080
wonderful and cherished fan of 
pro wrestling. 

753
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,520
So what do you have to say to 
Silver Fox Cortana Rice? 

754
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Well, happy birthday. 
Thank you so much for your love 

755
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,800
and support for over the years. 
And I hope to continue to to 

756
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,760
entertain you the way that I 
have and to be able to show you 

757
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,240
that the Dudley Boys will and 
always will be the greatest tag 

758
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,920
team in the history of this 
business or none. 

759
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,120
No one has ever come close to 
defeating the records that we 

760
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,240
have. 
Now let me put something on 

761
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:52,200
record too, and I hope Xavier 
and Kofi hear this. 

762
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,960
The New Day supposedly broke our
record in WWE by winning 10 

763
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,960
titles. 
Here's the deal with the tag 

764
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,000
team titles. 
It's tag team titles, so it's 

765
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,520
two guys. 
If Bubba and I got hurt, we 

766
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,960
still had to wrestle or we had 
the 450 titles. 

767
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,760
If we couldn't, I'm a little 
upset. 

768
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,160
I told it. 
Me and Xavier had this talk one 

769
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,280
time and you know, of course 
it's friendly. 

770
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,720
This is nothing, you know, 
malicious or anything like that.

771
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,560
So The Dirty Riders can take 
this and run it with it however 

772
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,760
the hell you want to run with 
it. 

773
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,320
We we always laugh about this 
because I bring this up to them.

774
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,600
I'm like when Biggie got hurt, 
if it was Biggie and Xavier, if 

775
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,760
Biggie got hurt, then Kofi came 
in and did it. 

776
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,080
If if Xavier got hurt, you know,
then Biggie would come in. 

777
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,520
So they always had that third 
person to come in and be able to

778
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,200
substitute and defend the 
titles. 

779
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,160
We didn't bring Spike in when we
could have, but we never brought

780
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Spike in if one of us got hurt. 
So therefore winning 10 tag team

781
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,000
titles? 
No, unless you can go the whole 

782
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,400
run with just you and Kofi or 
Biggie and Xavier or Biggie and 

783
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Kofi without having a substitute
come in, then you could say you 

784
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,920
broke the Dudley's record. 
But until then, no. 

785
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,560
We have this discussion all the 
time and they always try to 

786
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,040
prove me wrong, especially Kofi.
Kofi's like Sir, excuse me Sir. 

787
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no. 

788
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,840
We are the greatest 24 time 
world acting champions. 

789
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,840
You hear that? 
Kofi Kingston? 

790
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,440
You know, my, my fellow, my 
fellow Masshole, You know he's a

791
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Boston guy just like I am. 
Kofi, your chest ain't big 

792
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,200
enough to be talking to Devon 
like that. 

793
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Now come on, Woods. 
Oh, no. 

794
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,080
Game Guy. 
Oh, hold on. 

795
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,160
And not to mention, not to 
mention I would love to go on a 

796
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,760
record and say that Kofi has 
never beat me in PlayStation 

797
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,040
UFC. 
Wow, this is breaking news now. 

798
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,000
I can hear Kofi. 
I can hear Kofi now, Sir. 

799
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,120
Sir. 
Whoa, Sir. 

800
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,480
Excuse me, Sir. 
You gonna get a call after this 

801
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,600
football? 
Oh, I probably will, yeah. 

802
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:15,840
Shout out to Kofi. 
I love the I love those guys to 

803
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,000
death. 
I love New Day again. 

804
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,800
I love the Usos. 
Those are my boys. 

805
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,400
They always will be. 
And I'm glad we had not only 

806
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,520
that history in the ring, like I
said earlier, but just to be the

807
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:30,040
just to be their producers and 
then be able to be a part of so 

808
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,360
many of their legendary tag 
matches that got them where they

809
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560
are today. 
One of the greatest things I 

810
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:43,200
loved about producing their 
their match was the the whole 

811
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:48,280
rap battle that they did on I 
believe it was Smackdown with 

812
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,560
they had what's the rapper with 
Wale there. 

813
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,280
It was something I didn't know 
half the stuff they were going 

814
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,600
to say. 
And it was it was great. 

815
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,040
It caught us all off guard. 
And you know, and Vince gave 

816
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,320
them right. 
You know, Vince was like, hey, 

817
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,080
you know, go out there and do 
what you got to do. 

818
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,800
So they were like diva. 
They were like, Dee, listen, 

819
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,240
we're going to tell you right 
now we don't know half the shit 

820
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,400
we're going to say. 
So I was like, listen, Vince 

821
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,360
gave you full blunt. 
You guys go out there and have 

822
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,960
fun. 
And that's exactly what they 

823
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,320
did. 
So I was very happy to be a part

824
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,600
of that. 
And they helped produce that. 

825
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
I I never knew that you were the
producer of that segment. 

826
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,560
That's one of the the greatest 
segments of all time. 

827
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400
It's something people still talk
about to this day. 

828
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,160
I mean, they put they put on a 
lot of the replays and all. 

829
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,080
I mean, it's really, it was 
really, really good stuff 

830
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,200
between them and you know, and 
one of the greatest, I think one

831
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:40,360
of the other things I love doing
was the 24/7 title with Tazawa 

832
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,920
Truth and Reggie. 
Vince gave me, you know, friend 

833
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,080
of producers meeting and I said,
Vince, can we do this this He 

834
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,080
goes, Devon, I'm going to say 
this, this is your baby. 

835
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,160
You do whatever you want. 
I said, you're giving me 

836
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,640
permission to do whatever I want
to make this correct. 

837
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,840
He goes, have fun with it. 
And I remember Michael Hayes 

838
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,800
goes, damn, Devon, Vince just 
gave you the, the, the go to go 

839
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,840
ahead and do whatever you 
wanted. 

840
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,080
And he did. 
He we get a home run every 

841
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,840
single time. 
It was great. 

842
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,000
I was happy and loved the fact 
that I was able to have that 

843
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,480
24/7 and it, it, you know, 
produced good ratings the way it

844
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,560
did. 
I mean, of course it died down a

845
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,080
little bit. 
I had the stroke and then I 

846
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,560
stepped down. 
I would, you know, I was, I was 

847
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,080
recovering. 
I'm not saying that it went down

848
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:36,400
because I wasn't producing. 
But again, I do know that a lot 

849
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,800
of times truth was like when you
coming back, when you coming 

850
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
back, I was like, I don't know 
the truth. 

851
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,840
You know, I mean this, this 
really got me. 

852
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,040
And he was like, well, stop 
faking and come on back. 

853
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,520
But we had a really good time 
doing that. 

854
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:55,200
You know, I really bonded with 
those guys, Tazawa, Reggie and 

855
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Truth. 
I mean, we had some memorable 

856
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,000
moments with the 24/7, 
especially the thing in the 

857
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,760
hotel with Drake and his wife 
and Tazawa and Truth. 

858
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,360
It was, it was some funny stuff.
So wait a second, this is this 

859
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,560
is interesting here because 
again, breaking news, we never 

860
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,600
knew that you were the lead 
producer for that 24/7 title, 

861
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,120
especially during that time 
period. 

862
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,480
I'm going to, I'm going to say 
something to you, Devon, that I 

863
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,960
don't even know. 
If you realize WWE generates 

864
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,000
roughly at least $50 million 
from YouTube alone. 

865
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,880
And you know, that's a line item
in the budget that started off 

866
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,440
as nothing and has grown to 
something very significant. 

867
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,880
I mean, $50 million is basically
the budget for raw for the year.

868
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,440
You know, it cost about 
$1,000,000 to put on each 

869
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200
episode. 
So, you know, between 50 and $52

870
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,960
million you can you can fund raw
for a whole year. 

871
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,800
So the fact that on YouTube 
they're able to generate that 

872
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,120
kind of money, it's a big deal. 
And it's helped the company a 

873
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:08,840
lot that 24/7, that whole 
storyline and all those segments

874
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,640
and what have you were 
consistently some of the highest

875
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,920
rated stuff on the YouTube 
channel, on Facebook, on 

876
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,400
Twitter, no question about it. 
It was generating the company so

877
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
much money and it was getting 
over more than a lot of other 

878
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,400
things that are happening on the
TV show. 

879
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,640
The fact that you had a hand and
such a big hand in that, bro, I 

880
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,880
got to give you your flowers, 
man. 

881
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,080
That's, that is a big deal, man.
Congratulations on that. 

882
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:43,120
I mean, you know, again, Tazawa 
Truth, Drake, his wife, you 

883
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,520
know, Reggie, listen, we all 
when you have that many people 

884
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,000
with so many ideas, you have to 
be able to click. 

885
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,360
You have to be able to respect 
one another to be able to, you 

886
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,640
know, want to use those ideas. 
And that's exactly what we did. 

887
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,200
You know, we had a mutual 
respect for each other and we 

888
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,680
didn't go, no, that's not going 
to work or no, that sucks. 

889
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,720
You know, we took an account of 
everything that everybody was 

890
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,160
saying and we made it work. 
We would actually go to the 

891
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
playground and see where Reggie 
can jump off and flip off of 

892
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,720
things. 
And, you know, we would create 

893
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,720
different scenarios. 
I, I had probably one of the 

894
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,720
best times as a as a producer 
doing that segment because it 

895
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,080
was all mine. 
In other words, you know, Vince 

896
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,720
gave me full blanch to just go 
ahead and do whatever I wanted 

897
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,520
to do. 
I didn't have to clear anything 

898
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,320
with him. 
He just said go have fun. 

899
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,320
And that's exactly what we did. 
Did you realize that it was 

900
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,920
getting over as much as it was? 
I think after about the third, I

901
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,880
think after the hotel incident, 
I think that's when I realized 

902
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,880
we had something because that 
was funny. 

903
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,320
And the way Truth and Tazawa and
Drake played it off it was it 

904
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,120
was really, it was really a good
time. 

905
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,920
I think that's when I knew. 
That is amazing man. 

906
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,520
Why you're blowing my mind with 
this? 

907
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Because again, that was some of 
the best stuff going. 

908
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,280
And unfortunately, when they 
they basically put it to rest, 

909
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,760
that left a big hole that really
did not get filled until this 

910
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,160
Bloodline storyline started up. 
And that took years. 

911
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:27,080
So your impact on the business, 
on the WWE in particular, is a 

912
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,320
hell of a lot more than even we 
realized. 

913
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,240
My goodness, bro, that that's a 
that's a big deal. 

914
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,160
So I'm going to put a bug in the
ears there. 

915
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,240
We need to have something like 
this come back. 

916
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,000
I mean, if Devon Dudley can 
combine with these wonderful 

917
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
performers and come up with that
type of material. 

918
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,640
Hello, Triple H what's up? 
You saw what he did with Trick 

919
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,520
Williams, You know, just the 
music video alone and how that 

920
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,720
went viral. 
We we need to get this this 

921
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,000
party going again, man, because 
that's just great stuff. 

922
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,720
That is, that is great stuff. 
I can tell you what, you're 

923
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:04,200
going to see a lot more of the 
Dudleys, you know, back home 

924
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,720
where they belong in WWE, but 
you know, NXT and things like 

925
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:10,120
that. 
So I'm sure what you saw last 

926
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,720
week will not be the only time. 
There'll be many more to come 

927
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:21,200
and I'll make sure that my 
medical is taken care of so that

928
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,800
way I can compete a little bit 
or do certain things so the ball

929
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,160
won't be dropped and all your 
dirty riders again can go to 

930
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,040
hell. 
Devon, if anyone wants to keep 

931
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,760
up with you, especially now that
we know that you have this 

932
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,720
YouTube series that's going to 
be dropping soon and so many 

933
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:40,200
other great things. 
You got these live events where 

934
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,560
you know, you got lines out the 
door to come meet up with you 

935
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,040
and, and, and of course Bubble 
when you're together and what 

936
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,960
have you. 
What's the best way everyone can

937
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,960
just keep track of where Devon 
Dudley is going to be next? 

938
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Well, all my information I like 
to put on is on Twitter, which 

939
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,240
is testified Devon, but mostly 
Instagram testified Devon and I.

940
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,480
I do have a Facebook, but that's
private. 

941
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,280
Only close family and friends 
are on there. 

942
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,600
But as far as finding out any 
information or where I'm going 

943
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,840
to be and how all of that is, I 
am definitely on Instagram and 

944
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,160
Twitter. 
So you can follow me there and 

945
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,600
you'll get all the information 
you need. 

946
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,880
Of course, folks, Duke loves 
wrestling. 

947
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,640
On Facebook. 
On Twitter, Duke loves 

948
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560
wrestling@gmail.com. 
Let me know what you think of 

949
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,480
the episodes, you got any 
questions, the whole 9 yards. 

950
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:35,120
But, you know, we're winding 
down 2024 and 2025 is going to 

951
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,720
be the biggest year ever, not 
just for this show, but for the 

952
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:42,720
Dudley boys, not just the Dudley
boys, but for Devon Dudley in 

953
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:44,560
particular. 
So you definitely got to 

954
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,160
continue to listen to what we 
have going on here so you can 

955
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,960
stay in the loop, stay in the 
know on what's coming next. 

956
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:54,440
All right, Devon, it's that time
of the week now. 

957
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,880
My brother, what is the Devon 
Dudley Word of the week to take 

958
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,960
us out? 
Well, not somewhat. 

959
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,520
A couple of sentences or a 
paragraph. 

960
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,440
They're mad because they can't 
figure out how you're still 

961
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,960
being blessed after they lied 
and built a whole team against 

962
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,880
you. 
But know that God's got your 

963
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,680
back and he will fight your 
battles and you will come out 

964
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,560
victorious in the end. 
Oh testify. 

965
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,000
Strictly for the Culture 
brothers and sisters, you have 

966
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,280
seen the T-shirts, the hats, the
hoodies, the mugs in the hands 

967
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,200
of some of your favorite pro 
wrestling stars, podcasters and 

968
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,920
influencers out there and now 
it's time. 

969
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,840
Visit strictlyfortheculture.ca 
and you too can be part of the 

970
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
movement. 
Bigger than sweatshirts and 

971
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,760
commercial success, Strictly for
the Culture aims to build with 

972
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,160
like minded people and elevate 
their position in the world 

973
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,760
through knowledge, self love and
desire to unite. 

974
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,120
So what are you waiting on? 
Visit strictlyfortheculture.ca. 

975
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,680
Do it for the love, do it for 
the knowledge. 

976
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,800
Most importantly folks do it 
strictly for the culture. 

977
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,800
This is Tony Shivani. 
And we're desperately out of 

978
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,040
time on Duke Love Wrestling.
