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It is officially WrestleMania 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,520 week and let me tell you something right now there is no 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,360 one on the planet that I would rather talk to during 13 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,320 WrestleMania week then our dear brother here, the Hall of Famer, 14 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:11,320 Five time Hall of Famer, one of the greatest of all time, 15 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,880 brother Devon Dudley. What's going on there, Devon? 16 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,040 Just sitting by my pool deck waiting for WrestleMania. 17 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Man, listen, I, I'd have told you now, we, we didn't have snow 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,400 in Boston. We we had 67° rain every minute 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,880 the the weather changes over here and you out there working 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,160 on your tent. Well, here's the deal. 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,920 You ain't got to live in Boston. Come to Florida, tell the wife 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,080 you're packing up and you're heading down South. 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,760 Listen. Listen, I, I may never come 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,920 back, man. I, you know, I kind of. 25 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,840 I've been gone for 23 years. I left New York and ain't never 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,360 looked back. That's a good point. 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,880 That's a good point. That's see, that's the reason 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,600 why I can't go. You know what's crazy too this 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,600 week tree pollen is through the roof. 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,920 So that, so if you, if you suffer from the allergies, 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,560 people are just having a hard time this week over here, man. 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,600 You know, it's, it's crazy. Is it bad down there like that? 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,600 The pollen it it, it can get, it can get to that level, but it 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,880 hasn't gotten there yet. Got it, Got it. 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Yeah, eventually everybody goes to Florida. 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,040 That seems to be one of those places, man. 37 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,320 Auto is the move. Yeah, I hear that. 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,000 Well, well, listen, before we even jump into our WrestleMania 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,480 talk here for Devon and the Duke, I I got it. 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:36,320 I got to get something straight because the dirt sheets, the the 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:42,760 fans, a lot of people have been swearing up and down that there 42 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,360 is some kind of heat between the Dudley Boys and Booker T. 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,080 And it goes beyond wrestling. Like there's some hard feelings 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,120 there and especially between you and Booker in particular. 45 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,960 So, so, so I got to ask you straight up here, Devon, because 46 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,760 you know, you, you ain't afraid to tell the truth. 47 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Is there some kind of issue between you and Booker T? 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,600 No, there's no issue. We play like that all the time. 49 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 We play like that in WWE. We play like that in promos. 50 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,920 We played like that in general. So for them to so for them to 51 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:21,360 actually sit here and think that there's real legit feet, that's 52 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,080 wrong. Look, I made a comment about the 53 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,160 whole thing with Swerve and Booker and all I said was these 54 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,000 two brothers don't need to be fighting like this in public or 55 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,840 going back and forth verbally. Don't give these people, you 56 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,280 know, anything to be able to write in their dirt sheets or 57 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,040 anything like that. That was it estimate from the 58 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,520 heart. That's one brother to another. 59 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,560 And so with that being said, you know, we already fighting 60 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,880 amongst each other. We don't need to bring it to the 61 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,040 forefront and fighting amongst each other in front of people. 62 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,040 And then, you know, and it's not we're attacking ourselves. 63 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,440 And that's the whole thing behind what I meant by what I 64 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,800 said last week. So again, we don't. 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,040 I don't have Pete with Booker. Yeah. 66 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,560 We like to get on each other about who's the greatest tag 67 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,880 team. We always do that. 68 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,040 We do. We do that everywhere we go. 69 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,240 It's it's funny. It's entertaining. 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Booker says something funny. We say something funny. 71 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,880 It's like, boom, will we ever be able to wrestle Harlem Heat? 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Probably not. You know, and I say that 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,600 because, you know, a lot of times our time is up and and 74 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,080 over and my thing is let the younger guys take the stage. 75 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,240 You know, we had our runs. So there's no heat whatsoever 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,480 between Booker and myself. People needed to stop reaching. 77 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:45,280 So what? So what, you know, what was said 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,080 was said. But again, do you know how we 79 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,880 joke? Do you know how we interact with 80 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,120 each other when the cameras on around? 81 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,240 No, you don't. So stop assuming that we're 82 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,320 going at it and we're not. So, you know, again, there's no 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,000 heat. That's just the way we are with 84 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,240 each other. Like I did on the show when 85 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Bubba said, you know, I want to warn you, book us here. 86 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,480 It's like you could have warned me before I got here. 87 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Do you honestly think that WWE would have put that in there? 88 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:21,840 They probably would have, but still, no, we're not going to do 89 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,360 that. We're not going to do that. 90 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,360 If Booker, if Booker had a problem with us, he would bring 91 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,160 it to us. If we had a problem with Booker, 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,200 we'd bring it to Booker. We'd have to go on social media 93 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,720 and take cheap shots at each other. 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,640 That's not what it's all about. No, that's that's not how any of 95 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,760 y'all roll. And, and you know, the show that 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,320 Devon's referring to folks, is WWELFG. 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,320 It's the new hit series that's on A&E Network. 98 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,080 So definitely check it out. Sundays, 8:00 PM Eastern 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,840 Standard Time on the latest edition. 100 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,280 Devon was a special guest and he came out and like you said, you 101 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,480 know, the the Dudley boys and Booker were having a little 102 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,160 banter back and forth. But it's, it's shocking that 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,160 people would see something like that and not realize that it's, 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,480 it's joking around, it's entertainment. 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,040 It's not, you know, no, no one's going to take it to the 106 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,040 mattresses like it's the Godfather or something. 107 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,360 Give me a break. You know, it. 108 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,680 It's, it's important for me to get this stuff right and to make 109 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,880 sure that the facts are out. For this reason, with everything 110 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,440 going on in society today, people are losing their jobs. 111 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,360 The stock market is up and down. You know, people are having 112 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,480 immigration issues. There's a lot of anxiety and and 113 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,000 fear unfortunately happening throughout our nation and 114 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,960 beyond. And unfortunately, when you have 115 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:51,000 people online left to their own devices, they got all those 116 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,920 other issues and they bring it and introduce it in different 117 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,760 ways into everything else, including pro wrestling, you 118 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,720 know what I mean? So I don't want somebody trying 119 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,920 to roll up on on or Devon with a steel chair or something like 120 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,880 that 'cause they don't like the fact that you got a problem with 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Booker T allegedly. We don't need these problems out 122 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,720 there 'cause you get an ass whooping, you know what I mean? 123 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,200 I'm trying to save y'all out there. 124 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Wick. I'm trying to save y'all from 125 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,480 having a problem out there so. So just know that there is a 126 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,200 such thing as entertainment. You're talking about fellas Who 127 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,200 have been up and down the road together. 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,040 They're legends. Very few people will ever 129 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,840 understand what these folks have been through, but they 130 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,560 understand each other. So to assume that there's some 131 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,920 kind of animosity there is just ridiculous. 132 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,080 So I'm glad you cleared that up, big man, cuz that that's AI was 133 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 very surprised to see that. But a lot of people were, were 134 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,760 latching onto it like it was a real problem. 135 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,640 And I'm like, come on man, what? What are we doing here? 136 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,120 You know, exactly, you know, Devon, I was thinking about 137 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,600 this, everybody who has a podcast, they're talking about 138 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,880 WrestleMania and in in which they should be. 139 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,400 It's the biggest events of the years, the granddaddy of them 140 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,760 all, the whole 9 yards there. And I was thinking, you know, 141 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,080 you and I could go over the card, but we've been kind of 142 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 doing that leading up to this week anyway. 143 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,840 So I want to, I want to take a detour. 144 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,320 I want to, I want to talk about WrestleMania from a different 145 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:27,080 angle here. WrestleMania week for me as a 146 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,960 fan has always been this thing that I got to prepare for. 147 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,000 No matter what job I've ever had, I always make sure that the 148 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,080 Monday after WrestleMania, I have that day off and I always 149 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,480 make sure that the Friday before the WrestleMania weekend, I take 150 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,720 a half a day because I I just wanted this is like the thing 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,400 for me, you know what I mean? I want to clear my schedule. 152 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,160 I want to relax, I want to get all my food, my drinks, like 153 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,720 this is it. Don't even call me. 154 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,120 I'm locked in the WrestleMania. That's the end of it. 155 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,640 So everything leading up to that is you got to bust your ass at 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,200 work. You got to you got to try to get 157 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,040 ahead because you don't want to have a whole bunch of work piled 158 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,520 up next week. You know what I mean? 159 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,800 And, and, and everything else, tie up all the loose ends so you 160 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,920 can actually enjoy your reward, so to speak. 161 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:20,680 So that's always been my ritual on my end as a fan. 162 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,840 But I want to talk to you as a legend, as somebody who 163 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,240 performed at WrestleMania, as someone who has had legendary 164 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,200 moments and what have you. We haven't really heard enough 165 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,800 about folks like yourself and what that week is like from 166 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,800 start to finish. So I want to open this up with 167 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,120 with the Raw before WrestleMania. 168 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Look back brother, on your career and what have you. 169 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Give us some insight. What's the Raw before 170 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,000 WrestleMania like? Is it like any other Raw or is 171 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,520 it a different energy and what have you? 172 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,760 No, it's a different Raw. It's, you know, excitement, the 173 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,800 build up knowing that it's the last Raw and you're leaving to 174 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 go to wherever WrestleMania is going to be. 175 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,360 I think that's when everybody eats the cleanest, you know, 176 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,920 they don't want to eat bad. They want you want your body to 177 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,280 be ready and fit. And even though you've probably 178 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,400 been training, you know, through the whole year leading up to 179 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,280 this moment, but now you're getting close to the wire, 180 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,240 you're trying to stay healthy. You're you're getting massages, 181 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,360 you're going to chiropractors, you're trying to make sure that 182 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,440 everything is loose for you. So when the time comes, you're 183 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,880 ready to go. And I know that's what I that I 184 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,320 know that was my ritual. You know, I would. 185 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,160 I would basically just try to get my body as fit and ready as 186 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,360 I possibly could. One of the things that I, that 187 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000 always terrifies me this time of year is when I'm watching 188 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,080 matches on the Raw before WrestleMania, the, the Smackdown 189 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,560 before WrestleMania. And I'm seeing people taking 190 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,680 risks, doing dives outside the ring or, or taking some, some 191 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:05,560 bumps that are like, oh, you kind of, you know, you sure you 192 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:07,480 want to take that bump this close to WrestleMania. 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,720 What if you get injured or what have you? 194 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,320 Does does that ever cross your mind when you're performing on 195 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,120 the shows before the big one? Were you ever nervous or 196 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,040 concerned about possibly getting injured? 197 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:27,320 No, I, I think I, I think I basically just had that mindset 198 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,320 that I was, that I wasn't going to be hurt, that I was at my 199 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,760 strongest. I felt great, looked great and 200 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,600 want to go in there and tear the house down. 201 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,240 I don't think there was any fear of that if we were in because 202 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,400 we've had matches where we've had live events after Monday 203 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,680 Night Roar or something like that and we did them and then 204 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:51,120 went to WrestleMania. But again, I don't think she 205 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,640 ever entered my body when it came to that because you're just 206 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,920 so focused on WrestleMania. That's all you can think about. 207 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,120 But you definitely taking it easy. 208 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,560 Don't get me wrong. You're not going out there doing 209 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:07,440 things that you would normally do at a live event or even on 210 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,800 Monday Night Raw, a smackdown that could possibly injure you. 211 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,320 Well said, Well said. Because that's that's always the 212 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,320 thing, man. And we've seen it happen. 213 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,560 We've seen people get injured close to wrestle Mania. 214 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,040 I mean, look at poor Kevin Owens. 215 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,560 I know it's not the week of Mania, but it did happen within 216 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:29,080 the past two weeks where he got injured and that pretty much 217 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,720 knocks him out. He's not going to be competing 218 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,280 at the big event, you know what I mean, which is heartbreak. 219 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Samoa Joe. Samoa Joe was famous for that. 220 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,880 He would always get injured before he would have an 221 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,040 opportunity to wrestle at WrestleMania. 222 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,960 So getting his WrestleMania moment always was slipping 223 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,600 through his fingers when he was with the company. 224 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,240 So it's it's it's really interesting and kind of scary 225 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,200 thing when you if you were to take a step back and think about 226 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,160 it, but you stay focused, you stayed safe. 227 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,520 So you didn't have those problems there. 228 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 So that's Raw now. Smackdown is literally right 229 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,880 before WrestleMania. You've been on Smackdown on 230 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Tuesdays, you've been on Smackdown on on on Fridays. 231 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,000 This is the last show before WrestleMania. 232 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,800 What is that like? Especially behind the scenes? 233 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,040 What it what is that feeling like? 234 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,520 I. Mean it's very, very, very, you 235 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,400 know, the intensity is not really there as much. 236 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,720 I mean it's enough to have a match and to make sure you 237 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,560 entertain the people that are there in the arenas and people 238 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,960 watching at home. But you just want to be laid 239 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,880 back a little bit. You don't want to go out there 240 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,280 and injure yourself. So you kind of take it a little 241 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,320 bit easy. You don't take any risk. 242 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,520 You just go out there and have fun. 243 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,920 That's what a lot of people do. That's I know that's what Bubba 244 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,600 and myself did. We did a lot more stupid stuff. 245 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:53,080 You know, I maybe did 2 what's UPS in a row, you know, things 246 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,720 like that. We did things that would still 247 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,200 entertain the people, but not to the point where we thought we 248 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,480 were going to injure. Ourselves. 249 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,120 What about the Hall of Fame? I mean, this is an event that's 250 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,120 added to your schedule and it's an event that happens after the 251 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,080 matches, so that extends your night. 252 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,960 It's a long night now, brother. And then you got to get up and 253 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,480 you got to actually do WrestleMania the next the next 254 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,560 day. Talk to me about that. 255 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Just the fact that you got to sit through the Hall of Fame. 256 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,120 It's still a joyous event. Of course you appreciate it and 257 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,920 stuff like that. But was that ever a challenge to 258 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240 have to stay up that late, participating in something like 259 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,320 that, knowing you had to be on for the big event the next day? 260 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Well, yes, and that's guys, it's a little hard, you know, knowing 261 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,880 that we had to get up. You mean like knowing that we 262 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,480 had to get up to do WrestleMania? 263 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Yeah, because it if if you have Smack down and then right after 264 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,600 that you got the Hall of Fame and then you going to, you going 265 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 to take, you know, go to bed eventually and then you get up 266 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,600 and now you got to perform at WrestleMania. 267 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,960 I mean, brother, that's a long, that's a long stretch within 24 268 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,960 hours. Well, I will say this normally, 269 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,520 like now they do Smack Down and then they go change and then get 270 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 in their suits and stuff and then they go right back to the 271 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,560 arena. Again. 272 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,880 I wasn't privileged to be able to do that. 273 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,440 Thank God, you know, because again, we would have Smackdown 274 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,320 on Tuesdays, you know, we would have Smackdown on Tuesdays and 275 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,240 then the weekend, remember, WrestleMania was back when we 276 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,960 did it, It was only one night and it was on Sunday. 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,320 So you had the Hall of Fame on Friday, you had off Saturday and 278 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 then you had WrestleMania on Sunday. 279 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,880 You know, as opposed to having it right after smack down and 280 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,320 then getting dressed and then going back out to the arena to 281 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,800 sit down and continue to see. We didn't we, we didn't have the 282 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,680 lunge here to do that. I did that as a producer, but I 283 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:02,400 didn't do this talent. So, you know, again, it's people 284 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,000 don't realize what we go through and what we put our bodies, you 285 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,640 know, through not just in the ring, but even leading up to 286 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,040 something like that, you know, mentally you got to be prepared. 287 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,480 You have to have the mindset and this business to be able to 288 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,400 withstand anything. Professional wrestling is the 289 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,720 hardest part, is the hardest entertaining, or I should say 290 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,040 the hardest entertainment there is out there. 291 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,520 I don't think there's anything harder than what we do in the 292 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,960 WWE. You know, the way you have to 293 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,280 turn it on and off, it's incredible. 294 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,720 And a lot of people can do that, but a lot of people can't. 295 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,840 And for those that can't, don't last with a cup of coffee. 296 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,720 But the ones that do, man, they're buying a whole bag of 297 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,880 coffee grains and enjoying themselves because that's what 298 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,520 we do. That's what we did for so long, 299 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,560 you know? So, you know, it's one of those 300 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,160 things where you got to figure it out quick if this business is 301 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,640 for you or it's not for you, but there's no time to say I'm tired 302 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,880 or I'm beat up and this and that. 303 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,599 You got to go. All right, so, so talk to me 304 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,359 about the day as a wrestler. We'll start as a wrestler before 305 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,440 we get to as a producer. So back when you were were most 306 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,560 active, Wrestle Mania was still one day. 307 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,319 So it's it's show day. You take me through waking up in 308 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:24,680 the morning. You you wake up. 309 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,440 What's your day like right from the beginning? 310 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,200 Well, I'm waking up. Like I said, we try to eat 311 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,320 clean, get the nicest breakfast I possibly can. 312 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Nothing filling, but my nerves would go all the time. 313 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,640 So it was like I would barely eat breakfast. 314 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,000 I'd barely eat lunch. You know, you get in the car 315 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,800 with your family if you're bringing them, get to the arena, 316 00:17:54,800 --> 00:18:01,760 find out what you're doing, find out if anything has changed and 317 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,000 you're just going over stuff, you know, just trying to make 318 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,600 sure that what you're doing out there is going to work. 319 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,280 And so that's a lot of what, you know, I used to do as talent, 320 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,160 you know, just go out, just get to the arena. 321 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Not super early, but early enough even like maybe 45 322 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,840 minutes before call time so I can settle down, settle in and 323 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,320 just feel the moment of WrestleMania walking around the 324 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:38,960 arena, you know, seeing how the production is being done. 325 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,560 I mean, it's, it's a different feeling, man. 326 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 It's, it's not like Raw, Smackdown or even other paper 327 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,280 views. It's a different feeling. 328 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,600 WrestleMania and all the hype leading up to it, man, it's 329 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,560 amazing. So, so you're going through so 330 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,880 much emotionally and you, you have to wait, right? 331 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,480 You got to wait for the show to start. 332 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,160 You got to wait for your your match to be called and what have 333 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,360 you. So there's a lot of waiting 334 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,400 around. There's a lot of nervous energy. 335 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,320 There's a lot of dormant energy to to a certain degree. 336 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,440 How do you keep yourself awake? How do you keep yourself up? 337 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Well now it would be 5 hour energy. 338 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Back then it was Red Bull or any type of stimulant that would 339 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 make you, you know, try to stay alert. 340 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Nothing illegal, but something that made you, you know, like I 341 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,880 said, like a Red Bull or a version of a 5 hour energy 342 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,040 backed in for me. But again, your nerves are going 343 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,240 so much. You're just so excited to be 344 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,920 there that you don't have time there, you know, relax your body 345 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,320 and all that. You just, you're constantly just 346 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,160 trying to get everything focused and ready for the match that 347 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,920 night. So, so we get to the point where 348 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,840 your match is called you, you, you step out, you doing your 349 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,040 entrance or what have you. Talk to me about that energy, 350 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,080 especially from the crowd because you're talking, you 351 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:13,080 know, 4050607080 a 110,000 people all in one place making 352 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,640 noise, cheering, booing, the whole 9 yards. 353 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,200 And, and they're all focused on you. 354 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,000 They're all focused on you. Your, your partner, Bubba. 355 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,360 They're, they're focused on your opponents, but all of these 356 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,360 people are, are fixated on whatever it is that you guys are 357 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:34,040 doing. And that doesn't even count all 358 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,080 the people watching around the world, you know, whether it be 359 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,400 PLE, pay-per-view, whatever you want to call it, what have you 360 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,000 there. But talk to me about that 361 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,120 energy, the feeling of knowing that that many people are are 362 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,640 focused on you. It's a feeling you can't 363 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,640 respond. It's an amazing feeling. 364 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,960 It's a feeling that if you only done it one time in your career, 365 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:01,960 you'll never forget. That's how special and amazing 366 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,160 that feeling is. It's like a feeling like no 367 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,960 other. Once you experience it, then you 368 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,000 can honestly sit here and say that you, you know, you know how 369 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,520 to describe that feeling and this and that. 370 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,840 But then there's some people that have, you know, been at 371 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,560 many Wrestlemanias, can't describe it. 372 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Now you get a guy like Triple H and ask him, you know, I'm sure 373 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Hunter will tell you almost the same. 374 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,680 You know, it's, it's just a feeling like no other when 375 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,640 you're going out there and you're really ready for those 376 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,680 100 and you know, 100,000 people or 8070 thousand people cheering 377 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,880 your name and just enjoying life at that point. 378 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Is it, is it easy to communicate with everybody in the ring, 379 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,800 including the referee? When, when you have that many 380 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,840 people? Cuz again, this is like double, 381 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,920 sometimes triple your normal audience at a, a, a, a 382 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,240 pay-per-view PLE or what have you there. 383 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,440 This is WrestleMania. So it's, it's a lot more people, 384 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160 a lot more noise. A lot the acoustics are totally 385 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,680 different. Is it? 386 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,680 Is it difficult to communicate? To a certain degree it is 387 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:22,320 especially I put in perspective, everybody has their own agenda. 388 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,440 Everybody is doing things as well. 389 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,040 So they're focused on what they have to do. 390 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 They don't have time to be focused on you, the individual, 391 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,400 They got to be focused on them. Even the person that you're in 392 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,080 the match with, you know, they're they're pretty much on 393 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,560 the side thinking of ways to make the match better just like 394 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,560 you are. But at the same token, you're 395 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,600 going out there and really putting on a show. 396 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,200 And I think that's what even some of the fans don't realize, 397 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 You know, when we go out there, it's a different ball game. 398 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:59,280 It's just a different feeling. It's so hard to it's so hard to 399 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,720 to actually say how an individual will feel and, and 400 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,760 what they're going to do to get themselves ready for this match. 401 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,200 You know, listen, a lot of times, you know, we've gone over 402 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,800 matches and things like that during WrestleMania and we were 403 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,120 good. I do know WrestleMania 17, which 404 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:26,000 was that ladder mat to tables match tables, ladders and tears. 405 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:33,160 TLCI do know during that match, I was basically bothered by the 406 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,760 fact that my nerves kicked in, you know, with, with with 407 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,840 dangling with tables, ladders and chairs. 408 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,920 I got to hang 20 feet up with Christian. 409 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:48,640 Thank God it's not Jeff. And you know, I, I just, I don't 410 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,200 know, I Duke. It's so hard to describe. 411 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560 It really is. But just know that it's 412 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,160 something special. Well, you brought up the TLC 413 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,200 match from WrestleMania 717, which is interesting because you 414 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,880 guys went about 15 minutes in that match. 415 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,160 Yes. Did it feel longer? 416 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,880 Did it feel shorter? I mean, I did it. 417 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Did it go quick or not? Here's the thing, we got to the 418 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,720 gorilla position, which is the goal position. 419 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,960 We originally were told that we had like 2527 minutes. 420 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,400 So we outlined the match of that and then we get to the goal 421 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,400 position, we're about to go out. All right, guys, listen, I know 422 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,920 we told you this amount, but now you got 15 minutes. 423 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,760 Like what? And then we just had to get our 424 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,120 tails together and OK, this is what we're going to cut out. 425 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,880 And then going back and forth with each other and what is 426 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,320 appropriate to cut. I remember at 17 Edge just went, 427 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,280 you know what, let's just go out there and feel it. 428 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,200 And we all agreed. And that's exactly what we did. 429 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,880 That is so crazy. That is so crazy. 430 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Lifelong wrestling fan, you're out there at WrestleMania making 431 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,280 history. Wow. 432 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,120 Yeah, it's true. It's a feeling that, you know 433 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,920 other it really is. You will not have that high 434 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,080 anywhere else. I saw an interview with Triple H 435 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,240 yesterday on Instagram and you have something about the company 436 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,320 that, you know, when you're in front of a Wrestle Mania, when 437 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320 you're in front of a crowd like WrestleMania or just the WWE 438 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,480 crowd, it's not. No, it's like something you've 439 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,720 never experienced before and it really is a rush. 440 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,600 It's bigger than any drug you can honestly take. 441 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,200 Yeah, 'cause I mean, again, you, you got to, to borrow a phrase, 442 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,720 you got millions and millions of people around the world focused 443 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720 on you. And, you know, you have all of 444 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,440 those folks, you know, 50 thousand, 60,070 thousand, 445 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,160 100,000 people in the arena. That's the part that trips me 446 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,080 out, man. It's like, whoa, you're this 447 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:17,640 small speck and you're in this huge place and everyone is, is, 448 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,920 is they're reacting to every little thing that you do, every 449 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,960 move, every tag, every, every bump, every, every, everything 450 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,600 that you do. Even walking to the ring, 451 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,080 walking back from the ring, everything that you do, all of 452 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:36,000 those eyes are fixated on you. You talk about the nerves, 453 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,680 brother. I, I hear what you're saying on 454 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,800 that because how could your nerves not go crazy when you 455 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,960 realize that like everyone is, is paying attention to 456 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,800 everything, which means if you do the right thing, they're 457 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,000 going to know. If you do the wrong thing, 458 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,680 they're going to know. Like you just want to get it 459 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,440 done right, right? Yep, exactly. 460 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,600 And that's the biggest thing. That's now I'm getting excited 461 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,200 just even talking about that. It's like, damn, bro, that's a 462 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,720 trip. So, so how does that contrast 463 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,680 compared to when you are an agent? 464 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,480 So you're not physically in the match, you're helping get the 465 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,640 matches put together and all that stuff, but still, you got 466 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,840 to go through the motions, right? 467 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,960 You still got to go through the motions. 468 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,040 You know it. It's just, I don't know. 469 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,880 It's, it's just, again, you can't describe it. 470 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,120 It's, you have to experience it. You really do. 471 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,880 You have to experience it for yourself. 472 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,560 That's how special it is. I mean, I, I can't put in the 473 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,760 words how this works. I mean, I really can't. 474 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,040 And again, I think Hunter said it best. 475 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,560 Once you step out in front of that crowd, it's like, it's like 476 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,560 getting your first real hit on, on like a it's like a drug you 477 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,720 can't stop. Wow, So, so, so now you, you had 478 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,120 your match, right? You're walking to the back. 479 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,920 You you've, you've completed your task for the night, so to 480 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,080 speak here. What does that feel like when 481 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,120 you get to the back? A sense of accomplishment, 482 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240 knowing that you went out there and did what you were supposed 483 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,200 to do and there was no, you know, telling you, hey, you 484 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,200 know, you did this wrong, Vince wants to see you or what have 485 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,080 you. You just went out there, you did 486 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,760 it. You came back, you were happy. 487 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,800 The boss said he liked it. Then you were. 488 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,200 You were great and you were good. 489 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,320 Do you do you stick around for the rest of the show or do you 490 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,480 go about your business now? No, I think at this point it 491 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,440 seems my career, I I stick around. 492 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,680 I'll stick around and watch the whole show. 493 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Got it. I mean hell, you got the best 494 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,920 seat in the house so why not, right? 495 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,640 And there you go. There you go. 496 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,320 We, we've heard about the after party, the, the after 497 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,840 WrestleMania party where everybody gets together. 498 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,000 It's, it's, it's a private event. 499 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200 Not just anyone can show up in there, but everyone who's 500 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,040 supposed to be there, you know, they're there. 501 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Talk to me about the celebration afterwards. 502 00:28:59,640 --> 00:28:59,960 Man. What? 503 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,240 What is that like? Well, there's a lot of drinking 504 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,240 involved. That's a show you. 505 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Don't say. There's a whole lot of drinking. 506 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Yeah, there's a whole lot of drinking involved. 507 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Just knowing that you're done and, you know, you accomplish 508 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,240 everything useful to accomplish in that ring that night and told 509 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080 a great story. You know, your move up to par. 510 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,600 You know, you just, you just got done. 511 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,720 It is this the equivalent of winning the World Series of 512 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,480 winning the NBA championship. So not even the fact that you 513 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,000 won a belt or or you lost a belt at WrestleMania, just 514 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,760 accomplishing the goal of competing at WrestleMania is the 515 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400 after party like that, like you're you're you're celebrating 516 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,760 the championship. I would say so because you know, 517 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,240 everybody's coming up to, you know, great match, great match, 518 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,960 good job, good job. And you feel like you've done 519 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880 something, you know, you get recognized by your peers and 520 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,320 it's, it's such a rewarding feeling, It really is. 521 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,960 And you can lay your head down and you know, and be comfortable 522 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,800 and go to sleep. But a lot of times with us, we 523 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,280 couldn't go to sleep because our adrenaline was going so much, so 524 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,520 high that the next day we were at the building, say by 9/9/30. 525 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Whoa, I didn't realize that you're you're at the building in 526 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,560 the morning the next day. Yeah, pretty much. 527 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,480 I mean, because if we're on Roar, you know, in terms of the 528 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,880 producers, then yes. That's a trip. 529 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,440 That's a trip. So, so I mean, listen and, and 530 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,720 you've been a producer for some late Wrestlemanias. 531 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840 We're talking, it doesn't even end till midnight, right? 532 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800 I, I, I can remember a few years back when I think Charlotte 533 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Flair was in the main event and that was exactly what happened. 534 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240 It, it literally ended right around midnight because there 535 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,560 was some issues with public transportation and things like 536 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,720 that, curfew issues. And again, the parties after 537 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360 that, you're probably not getting back to the hotel room 538 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,080 till about four or five in the morning, right? 539 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,040 Two or three sometimes. It all depends. 540 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,600 I mean, by the time you get out of that building and all those 541 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920 fans that are leaving, you got to beat, try to beat the 542 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,080 traffic. And although we have police 543 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,160 escorts leading us out because we're in the tour bus or you 544 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,640 know, another tour bus, but kind of like, you know, they got a 545 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,040 charter bus for us. So we get right past the people. 546 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,640 We get to the after party and you know, we're just 547 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,160 celebrating, having a good time, laughing, joking, talking about 548 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,360 the matches, talking about what we did, what we didn't do, what 549 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720 we should have done, talking about, you know, some of the 550 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,000 mess ups. Wow, wow. 551 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,960 So so now we're at Raw. We're we're at Raw, the Raw 552 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,760 after WrestleMania, which also coincides with the first day of 553 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,240 the new fiscal year for WWE. So WrestleMania is when they 554 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,280 close the books on their, their, you know, their fiscal year, 555 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,720 their business year, so to speak. 556 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,320 So whatever money they made, it ends at that point. 557 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,320 And now you start with the new year. 558 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,280 Talk to me about the energy regarding the Raw after 559 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,560 WrestleMania because now the new feuds start to get put together, 560 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,240 right? A new feud gets to put together, 561 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,040 but there's some people that are unhappy about it. 562 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240 They may not want to work with the individual or doesn't see 563 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,040 any money in with this individual. 564 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680 And I know that's the way it used to be sometimes when I was 565 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,640 there, you know, because you're unhappy because, you know, maybe 566 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,760 you thought you want to work, you know, Randy Orton, you know, 567 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,560 and main event every night or maybe you were going to work, 568 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:40,600 you know, Jimmy, Jimmy Johnson, you know, who's not even a mid 569 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600 Carter. But yet they're saying, OK, 570 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,120 you're going to start a little program with them and you don't 571 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,280 want to, you know, but you're not going to say no, you know, 572 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,080 you still going to do it. But in all eyes that a lot of 573 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,720 people are excited because again, there's some people that 574 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,760 didn't make the WrestleMania card and they weren't doing 575 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,080 anything with them like during the whole year. 576 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,520 And they've been promised that after WrestleMania, they're 577 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,920 going to start getting the ball rolling. 578 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,800 Sometimes that works in the advantage of the person that's 579 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,080 being told that and sometimes it doesn't because then creator 580 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400 said, oh, I'm sorry, we put we had to pull a we couldn't, we 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,480 couldn't do that. So we'll have to go back to the 582 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,880 drawing board review. So now you're waiting another 583 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,240 however long it's going to take for you to be able to be able to 584 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,480 get that storyline that you want. 585 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,960 So these new storylines coming out after mania is very 586 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,720 important to talent because now it sees what direction where 587 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,320 we're going. And that was always an exciting 588 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,880 part from me and Bubba. You know who they got with, who 589 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760 they going to bring with us next, Who what, what are we 590 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,720 going to do? And we wouldn't get it. 591 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Deep, deep when it comes to people who are experiencing 592 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,240 their first WrestleMania, right? Because there's always somebody, 593 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,640 there's always somebody who who's competing for the first 594 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,920 time. What advice would you have as as 595 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,360 somebody who's been through it on on many occasions, both as a 596 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,800 wrestler and as a producer? What advice do you have for the 597 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,640 folks experiencing it for the first time? 598 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:16,120 Well, just experience it, enjoy it, have fun, cheer, Boo, get 599 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,360 excited, you know, do what the crowd is doing. 600 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,199 Just enjoy yourself. That's the biggest thing. 601 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,040 That's what you're there for. You're there to be entertained. 602 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:31,199 And you know, once you are in that zone, then it's good from 603 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,280 that point on, you know, but just relax and enjoy yourself. 604 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,960 You know, it's like being on vacation, you know, just just 605 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,760 relax and enjoy yourself. Especially as a fan. 606 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,560 You don't want to sit here and expect, you know, over the top 607 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,639 things to be going on and then it doesn't, then you're 608 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,159 disappointed. Just relax and enjoy yourself. 609 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,520 That's it man. Think of it as a vacation, a 610 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,480 night off, you know? Deep. 611 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,040 I love that. I love that. 612 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,720 I love that behind the scenes perspective there because again, 613 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,960 that's not something that a lot of people talk about, but it's 614 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,800 interesting we we see the rock, right? 615 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,040 For instance, when the rock comes out these days, the camera 616 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,680 pans on his his forearm and you can literally see the 617 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040 goosebumps. The crowd is cheering and what 618 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,880 have you in the rock will show you his goosebumps and then he 619 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,520 slaps his forearm. Is it? 620 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,800 Is it really that deep, brother? It really is that deep. 621 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,360 It really, really is. Again, it's a feeling that like 622 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,080 no other. It's WrestleMania. 623 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,800 You know, it's the granddaddy of them all. 624 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,040 It is the Super Bowl, World Series, NBA Championship all 625 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,440 combined into one. Nobody puts on a show like WWE's 626 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,520 WrestleMania. I'm sorry, nobody does. 627 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,280 There are some that like to come close to it, but don't even come 628 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160 close to it. And for those of you that 629 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,960 thinking that might isn't talking about me, yes, I am. 630 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,280 And you know who you are. Listen. 631 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,400 You will never be on that route. You know, Seth Rollins just did 632 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,600 an interview picking up on what what somebody else said about CM 633 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,800 Punk. Just the fact that, you know, 634 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,720 you, you, you ran off to go steal money from a billionaire's 635 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,320 kid instead of toughing it out here in WWE. 636 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,960 And now you want to come back and, and, and reap the benefits 637 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,080 of the stuff that guys like me and Roman have have built up. 638 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,160 You left us. We had to carry the bag. 639 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,600 We had to take the ball and run with it while you were out there 640 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,360 playing Patty cake with the billionaire's son and what have 641 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,000 you. It it's just they just won't 642 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,960 stop taking shots at Tony at this point. 643 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,080 Huh. Well, here's the deal. 644 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,640 Tony opened up Season 1 himself, saying the things that he says 645 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,040 coming out there. Somebody should, somebody should 646 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,040 have shut them up. You cannot go out there and say 647 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,400 the shit you say and expect people not to remember. 648 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560 Don't forget, I want to come back at you. 649 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,320 You know, just because you're a billionaire, son, don't think 650 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,560 you're off limits because you're not. 651 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,920 Yeah. You can get mad all you want if 652 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,520 if I'm saying this, but you're not off limits, you know, fuck 653 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,160 that. No, you're not off limits. 654 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,160 Don't open up your damn mouth. There won't be a problem. 655 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,880 You know, you don't see Vince going public and saying stupid 656 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,800 shit in the in the media. You don't. 657 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,000 And, and the few times that he that he would do something, it 658 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,600 was always to his own benefit. It wasn't like he was. 659 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,280 He wasn't helping the other side out by mentioning them, you 660 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,800 know? Exactly. 661 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,720 It was either storyline driven or what have you, but you know, 662 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,200 you've never seen Vince McMahon do stuff like that. 663 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,880 It's wild, man. People were abuzz this week 664 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:05,480 because The Rock had posted a photo of himself wearing a New 665 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,560 Japan Pro Wrestling shirt. And there has been speculation 666 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:16,040 over the past year that with New Japan Pro Wrestling continuing 667 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,440 to not really move the needle, so to speak. 668 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,200 They're just they're kind of dormant as a company. 669 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,480 They don't have any star power, unfortunately. 670 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,160 Maybe this is an opportunity for WWE to swoop in and not just do 671 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,760 a collaboration, but potentially become a partner, whether they 672 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,720 buy New Japan outright or they just invest in them. 673 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,200 Something similar to what seems to be going on with with WWE and 674 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,560 TNA. What's your take on that? 675 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,480 Do you think would be a good idea for the WWE to find a way 676 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,240 to partner with New Japan at least? 677 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,040 I think so. Again, you know, WWE is going to 678 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,640 be always the giant when it comes to stuff like this. 679 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080 They just are. Whether this is in charge or 680 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,760 Hunter is in charge, you know, if you can jump on that 681 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,320 bandwagon and jump on it. But if you jump on it, remember, 682 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640 you better be qualified to jump on that. 683 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,840 And that's the difference between a lot of companies. 684 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,160 Listen, I'm loving the collaboration between TNA and 685 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960 WWE. And if I'm not mistaken, I 686 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,760 believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Duke, I believe WWE is 687 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,560 doing something with one of the Japanese organizations, either 688 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,720 New Japan or All Japan. Well, they, they've been, 689 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,840 they've, they've sent talent over and, and done some things. 690 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,000 They've allowed talent to compete in NXT from time to 691 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,880 time. So yes, there is some kind of 692 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,960 collaboration going on right now. 693 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,880 I think it's actually with Noah. But yes, there has been 694 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,480 something going on and it looks like it could possibly expand to 695 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,840 New Japan. I mean, we did have a working 696 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:01,480 relationship with All Japan and WWE back in the 80s because we 697 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,320 saw a talent like Andre, the World Warriors when they were 698 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,720 with them. Hogan, you know, go over there 699 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,400 and have these matches over there and you know, I just saw 700 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,960 something on YouTube. When was it? 701 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,240 I just saw something on YouTube the day before yesterday where 702 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,200 they had Andre teaming up with the great Barber. 703 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:30,680 Versus Demolition, Yeah. And then you had was it Hogan? 704 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,320 Hogan against Stan Hanson, I believe it was. 705 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,320 And it was the Road Warriors against man. 706 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,960 Who were they? Who were they working with? 707 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,760 I can't remember. But, you know, it was huge back 708 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:51,200 then. You know, here's the thing, man, 709 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,360 you know, again, I don't have any beef with Tony. 710 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,800 I really don't. But instead of trying to say 711 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,480 they get a Pepsi Cola off the West of the, of the pro 712 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,320 wrestling world and the WWE is the Harvey Weinstein or 713 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,560 Weinstein, whatever that guy's name is, they got in trouble. 714 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Should have left that alone #1 #2 How about maybe trying to 715 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,600 find out how you can make your company on the same level as 716 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,440 them? Not saying you got to be with 717 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,880 them or kiss their ass or anything like that, but I'm just 718 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,160 saying burying, burying companies, you know, to get 719 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120 yourself over is never the way to go. 720 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,040 And I think that's what that's what his ultimate downfall was. 721 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,320 Not downfall because he's still up and going, but, you know, not 722 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:43,720 being able to, you know, stay at, stay on, stay as hot as he 723 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,400 once was when he first came in. Because correct me if I'm wrong, 724 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,360 dude, they had the talent. Absolutely. 725 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,600 They have the talent. Not only is the talent good, 726 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,680 they're great. And some of them come from what? 727 00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:01,120 From WWE, But you know, again, and the ball just keep being 728 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,560 dropped and I, I don't get it, nor do I understand it. 729 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,640 I mean, look at this, this is a prime example here. 730 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,080 And I know we're, we're coming off WWE for a second, but you, 731 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,600 you have somebody like Mercedes Monet, the, the woman formerly 732 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,880 known as Sasha Banks, right? She has been a headliner at 733 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,800 WrestleMania. She has won the women's 734 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,520 championship what, at least 5-6, seven times. 735 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,160 She is one of the new stars in the Star Wars franchise. 736 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,240 They actually created an action figure for her character, which 737 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,880 lets you know that they got a lot of equity in that character. 738 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,800 And they, they, they plan on doing more with that character. 739 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,280 They see where they can make money off of her, right? 740 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,840 You have somebody with that degree of star power. 741 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,720 Tell me again, why would you make them champion immediately 742 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,880 and, and, and, and push them to the moon? 743 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,520 I don't understand it. Why isn't she the AEW Women's 744 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,960 Champion, you know? I don't know, you know that. 745 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Again, that's a question to ask him and to see what the, you 746 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,120 know, the answer would be. There's a lot of questions that 747 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,440 needs to be answered, but you know, he's not answering a lot 748 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,120 of them. And again, I never want to see 749 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,800 AW fold. I just want AW to make it. 750 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,400 And I want them to be, you know, another large company in the 751 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,520 wrestling world that people respect and love and with the 752 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,640 talent that they have. Good God, why aren't they look 753 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,800 at like that? You know, I've been asking 754 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,160 because I don't really watch the product anymore. 755 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600 I don't watch nearly as much wrestling as I would like to 756 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,720 because, you know, I have a life with with kids and stuff like 757 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,840 that. So I can't be glued to the to 758 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,640 the television watching it. But, you know, it was kind of 759 00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,560 like, I just don't understand why they're not doing bigger 760 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,240 numbers, not only on the ratings, but in the in the 761 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:10,280 arenas, on TV, things like that. I mean, why aren't they? 762 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,080 It doesn't make any sense to me. You have the talent, you have 763 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,240 it, but what is the hell is going on? 764 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,280 You know, and I'm hearing reports all, I'm hearing reports 765 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,600 all the time about people not being used and, you know, coming 766 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,760 in to catering, just sitting there or some being called in 767 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,240 literally the day before the show to come and fly in. 768 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,760 And then when they get there, they're sitting and catering the 769 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,800 whole time. I honestly believe that when you 770 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,440 don't treat the people who work for you, when you don't treat 771 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,120 them right, they're not necessarily going to feel like 772 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,680 they are their best self and you can't fake it. 773 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,880 Anyone who's paying attention is going to pick up on that. 774 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,960 So I, I honestly believe that part of the reason why the fans 775 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,760 have started to turn the channel, why the fans are not 776 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,560 showing up to the arenas is because they can tell that the 777 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,560 wrestlers are not necessarily happy over there. 778 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,960 You know, I, I, I think it's as simple as that. 779 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,760 Meanwhile, WWE, everybody kind of seems like they got they, 780 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,400 they got sparks flying out of their backside like they, 781 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,720 they're ready to go through a wall. 782 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,360 You know what I mean? Yeah, look, look at look at the 783 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,080 kid Brown breaker, that that spear. 784 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,520 He just did the Carlito the other day. 785 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,560 I don't know if you saw that yet. 786 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,880 He jumped up in mid air. Yeah, when he flipped. 787 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,200 Yeah, Oh my God. Yeah, I saw. 788 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,200 It Jesus, what the hell was that? 789 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,480 You know what he he just jumps out of the TV brother, you know, 790 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,600 but that kind of energy is the thing it it it just whether 791 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,320 you're a wrestling fan or not, if I show you a clip like that, 792 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,880 you're going to want to know more. 793 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,080 You're going to want to see more. 794 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,880 You're going to find that interesting and in this world 795 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,000 and you brought it up. You saw something on Instagram 796 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,480 and what have you in this world where literally a 32nd, 62nd 797 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,040 clip can literally make the biggest impression. 798 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,240 It's like, brother, where are AE WS clips at? 799 00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,200 Do they have clips that can translate like a brown breaker 800 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,760 doing that spear? I don't think so. 801 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,920 You know, I don't think so at all. 802 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,240 So it just it's a it's a blunder in my opinion. 803 00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:31,120 And, and it's going to continue to be a blunder as WWE continues 804 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:37,800 to build, because the crazy part about this is Cody Rhodes and 805 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,160 John Cena are headlining night 2. 806 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000 Roman Reigns, CM Punk, Seth Rollins are headlining night 807 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,680 one. The night one match is not for a 808 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,960 title. And then, oh, by the way, you 809 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,760 got Jay USO and, and, and you have Gunther who are competing 810 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,640 for the other title. They're not even the main event 811 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,240 to either either night. My point in saying. 812 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,120 And then you got the women right? 813 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,200 You, you Bianca and and EO and and and Rhea, Charlotte and and 814 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,480 and Tiffany. My point in saying all that is 815 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,720 there was so much talent that I just mentioned. 816 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,520 And that's not even that doesn't even scratch the surface of the 817 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,840 rest of the roster. There's so much talent that 818 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,800 could be in the main event that no matter what happens this 819 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,040 WrestleMania, you know we're going to be eating good for the 820 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,040 next couple of years. Because there's so many 821 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,200 different types of matches that you can have on every PLE, on 822 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,600 every Raw, on every Smackdown and matches that people want to 823 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,440 see, feuds that people want to see, development that people 824 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,960 want to see. You don't even need Roman Reigns 825 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,080 to be your champion right now. That's insane. 826 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,200 You know what I mean? So, so it's just when you 827 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,200 compare the two, there's no comparison. 828 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,560 It's just like night and day bro. 829 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,360 And that's the part that bothers me about them because they have 830 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,960 what it takes. They do. 831 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,200 It's just that the leadership is not there, you know, and I and 832 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,400 listen, and I keep hearing the same thing over and over because 833 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,280 I'm, you know, I'm asking them like, how are they doing in 834 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,680 ratings? How are they doing in 835 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,120 attendance? And it's like I get every time I 836 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,400 ask the purse, the people, they, they shake their, they shake 837 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,720 their heads. I don't know, Devon, it's, it's 838 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,880 not good. I'm like, don't tell me this 839 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,800 company's going to fold, you know, because I don't know. 840 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,280 People were saying, you know, well, Daddy's going to get tired 841 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,320 of giving his money if he ain't making a profit and so forth and 842 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,400 so on. And if that's the case, then we 843 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,920 better come up with something quick. 844 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,280 Quick, like yesterday, please. My goodness. 845 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,840 Anyway, let me let me wrap it up on this. 846 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,440 Do you allow Cody Rhodes to walk out of WrestleMania champion, or 847 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,400 do you put the belt on Cena and then quickly transition him to 848 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,720 his next feud? My thing is, I say leave it on 849 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:00,880 Cody. Wow. 850 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,800 I, I mean, that's my opinion and I say that because it would help 851 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,560 Cody. And remember, if John is only 852 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,480 here for one year and it's less than that now because, you know, 853 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,040 he said he was going to be done in December, then why not do 854 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,200 something that's going to put Cody in the next atmosphere So 855 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,040 where he's the guy that maybe be the face of the company, you 856 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,720 know, or what have you, Maybe he needs that boost that'll get him 857 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:27,600 where he needs to be. John already has it. 858 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,720 Win, lose or draw, John is still going to be over. 859 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,280 And in my opinion, it doesn't matter. 860 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,400 Wow, so does that mean that John never breaks Flair's record? 861 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,000 Is is is that what you would book? 862 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,760 I forgot about the record. Jeez. 863 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,440 Let me ask you this. What if he went? 864 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,840 What if he doesn't win and say summer slam? 865 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,040 He wins and then come December he walks out? 866 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,680 Yeah, hey, listen, his his last match, he could win, he could 867 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,480 break the record during his last match and I'd be happy with 868 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,040 that. And then then he retires 869 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,360 champion who broke the record. Well, not only that, but then 870 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,760 you can have a tournament and that's even more exciting, like 871 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,120 they did at WrestleMania 4. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 872 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,040 Or whoever wins the Royal Rumble could be the champion, which I 873 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,280 I'm not. I'm not as interested in that. 874 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,600 I'd rather see it happen at Mania, but there's a lot of ways 875 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,360 you can go with that if Cena retires champion so why put the 876 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,600 belt on them now? Like you said, why not just wait 877 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,920 till the end and put it on them? Again, that's a question for 878 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,760 creative. Yeah. 879 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,720 And I don't know where they're thinking or where their mindset 880 00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,280 is. So, you know, and I'm not even 881 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:43,080 sure, you know, if John is really leaving in December, like 882 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,880 it is reported. You know, maybe maybe he's just 883 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,440 saying it. Maybe he's not just saying it. 884 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,880 Maybe he is, but I don't know. It's going to be very 885 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,640 interesting this weekend and leading up to John's retirement. 886 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,880 Well, because listen, our our friends over in the Kingdom of 887 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,840 Saudi Arabia, they're dropping $50 million per event. 888 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,960 Are you really going to sit here and tell me they're not going to 889 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520 get at least one John Cena match? 890 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,120 Come on, come on, All that money, you're not going to give 891 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,120 them a John Cena match? Yeah, that's true. 892 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,440 I, I think you got to give it to them. 893 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,520 They on the, on the, on the balance sheet. 894 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,520 When we look at, you know, what WWE makes for the year and what 895 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,440 have you, those Saudi shows are the difference maker, man. 896 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,600 I mean, it's, it's very difficult. 897 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,440 If you, if you have $1,000,000 house, that's tremendous. 898 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,200 The fact that you can do one event and walk away with $50 899 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,560 million profit? Come on brother you, you just 900 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,000 paid for RAW for the whole year. Yeah. 901 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:51,640 Pretty much, you know what I'm saying. 902 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,240 You, you just paid for Raw for the whole year with that, with 903 00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:58,960 that one event. So how do you not give them at 904 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,720 least one last John Cena match? Yeah, well, we're going to get 905 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:09,480 it at WrestleMania. Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. 906 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,040 That's for sure. Speaking of which, WrestleMania 907 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,320 week, where is Devon Dudley going to be? 908 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,120 This is like, where in the world is Waldo or what have you here? 909 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,160 Where are you going to be, you know, for the week? 910 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,080 Here, brother. I'm going to be all over Vegas. 911 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,240 I'm going to be at Wrestle Kong, I'm going to be at this. 912 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:32,880 It's like a tailgate appearance I'm going to do at the arena. 913 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,520 I mean, I'm going to be all over the place. 914 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,200 So it's going to be a very busy week for me, but the same token, 915 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,680 forgive me for saying this, but man, I can't wait for it to be 916 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,520 over already. I'm just tired. 917 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,040 I'm just tired just thinking about all the crap that we going 918 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,000 to have to do when we get there. But that's the fun part about 919 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,760 it. You making money, you enjoying 920 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,760 yourselves. Listen, you can be digging 921 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,600 ditches for a living and be unhappy. 922 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,760 Nothing wrong with digging ditches, but you can be doing 923 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,640 that and being unhappy with your life. 924 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,320 So I'm very grateful and very humble to know that the Lord has 925 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:10,080 blessed me not only to have a 25 year career in the wrestling 926 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,080 business and then talent, but not to mention even outside of 927 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,400 the producer. And of course my new, you know, 928 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,960 found thing with the YouTube channel. 929 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,000 So I'm very happy to be able to still be able to do that and 930 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,360 make money and to be able to still provide for the family. 931 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,920 Yeah, like you said, you could be digging ditches. 932 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,120 So, you know, the, the fact that you, all you got to do is meet 933 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,840 the fans, sign some autographs, share some memories. 934 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,240 It's not a bad life you live in right now, brother. 935 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,360 No, it's not. Listen, it's a beautiful life 936 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,520 compared to some of the people from the Andre and Hogan era who 937 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,080 are now starting to reap the benefits of comic cons and 938 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,400 things like that. You know, they they're starting 939 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,280 to understand how this works. So, you know, as far as I'm 940 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,840 concerned, you know, this is WrestleMania. 941 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,120 We get is a learning experience for everybody who's there for 942 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,440 the first time. I think you, you asked me 943 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,320 earlier about a fan, you know, if you're there for the, if the 944 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,960 fan is there for the first time, what to expect or something like 945 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,440 that. But you know, again, just enjoy 946 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,480 yourself. Take it all in because you're 947 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,240 probably if you never go to another WrestleMania, you'll 948 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:23,680 never experienced anything like that again, especially in Vegas. 949 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,080 Everybody out there in Vegas, if everybody out there in Vegas 950 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,120 again, they're betting. Best of luck to you, man. 951 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,520 I've got hooked. I was playing blackjack and got 952 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,440 hooked on that so much. Dropped four, dropped $400.00 953 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,440 and was scared. I mean, that's nothing to a lot 954 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,760 of people, but it was, it hurt me because. 955 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,320 It goes quick. Now, Blackjack, it goes quick. 956 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,000 It goes real quick and I'm, I'm listen, I'm cheap as hell. 957 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,280 I'm going to let you know right now. 958 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,440 So every time they kept taking that money away from me, I was 959 00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,520 crying. Man, listen, I, I, when I go to 960 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,480 Vegas, you know what we'll do like the penny slots and things 961 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,840 like that just so we can extend the time in the casino. 962 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,400 I'm really getting it for the free drinks. 963 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,960 But I did find the craps. You know, the craps game, the 964 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,360 dice game, instead of doing it with a with a dealer, they have 965 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,680 the video craps where everybody sits around this big Dome and 966 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,080 you press the button and then you know, the dice get flipped 967 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,320 automatically and what have you. That was my thing. 968 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,840 That was my thing. And and just like you said it, 969 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,120 it hurt when you lose brother because it goes quick so. 970 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,200 Oh, like you wouldn't believe it. 971 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,560 Yeah, yeah. I I was crying. 972 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,560 Yeah, but good reason. For very good reasons. 973 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,200 For very good reason. So once again folks, Devon is 974 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,280 going to be at Wrestle Con. You can, you can head over to 975 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,520 wrestlecon.com For more information. 976 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,800 I know the Dudley boys together are going to be there on, on 977 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,360 Thursday actually, right. So, so the first day you guys 978 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,600 going to be there is Thursday the 17th. 979 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,480 Devon is going to stick around for the whole weekend though. 980 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,800 We we have you listed here Thursday through Sunday. 981 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,120 Is that is that accurate there? Yes, it is. 982 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,240 It's very accurate. So hey, you have no excuse, 983 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:21,800 folks. Go out, see the big man, 984 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,120 definitely get a get a picture, get a autograph, share a a good 985 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,320 laugh and what have you. That's what it's all about. 986 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,920 WrestleMania weekend, really WrestleMania week, I should say, 987 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:36,080 is the biggest convention in all of pro wrestling. 988 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,080 So all of these other events that are happening to help 989 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,040 supplement what WWE is doing, something like Wrestle Con is a 990 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,800 great opportunity. All you fans from around the 991 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,240 world, come, come check Devon out, man. 992 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,560 Let him know what you think of the show, the YouTube, the whole 993 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,040 9 yards. Have some fun for sure, for 994 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,280 sure. Outside of that, Devon, what's 995 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,760 the best way I can keep up with you, brother? 996 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,280 On my YouTube channel, you know Devon W YouTube channel, which 997 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,240 is doing extremely well. We are now at. 998 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:13,520 Let me see. We are now at, as I'm trying to 999 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:20,320 figure this out, 142,467 subscribers remind you that's 1000 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,000 all in two months. So, so when I tell you that that 1001 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,640 you that the the Devon Dudley brand has never been hotter and 1002 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,200 you look at me like really? So I don't know, man. 1003 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,800 Listen, I'm just very blessed and honored to even have these 1004 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,080 people want to even listen to anything that I have to say. 1005 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,960 So, you know, thank you very much for all your love and 1006 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,200 support on the channel. And you know, doing these 1007 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,120 autograph signings, there's a lot of people coming up saying, 1008 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,720 you know, we love your YouTube channel, We love what you say, 1009 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,200 We love how you tell stories. Again, thank you very much for 1010 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,640 that. I really appreciate that. 1011 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,040 Cold heartedly. Thank you. 1012 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,640 I love it, I love it. That's the good stuff to. 1013 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:04,200 Well earned, well deserved for sure folks. 1014 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,240 As always, Duke loves wrestling. On Facebook, on 1015 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,000 twitter.dukeloveswrestling@gmail.com continue to send your shout outs 1016 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,280 and what have you. We got some great things on the 1017 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,840 horizon as always. You just got a real nice peek 1018 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,400 behind the curtain here Devon shared with us, which is very, 1019 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,720 very special. Appreciate that. 1020 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,680 So until next time, which would be after WrestleMania, why don't 1021 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,960 you give us our Word of the Week, my brother? 1022 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,880 If you don't leave your past in the past, it will destroy your 1023 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,760 future. Live for what today has to 1024 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:42,400 offer, not for what yesterday has to take away. 1025 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,000 Testify. My brother. 1026 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:14,880 All about the perfect life. Be yourself, let your spirit 1027 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,920 lie. In this fashion you'll touch the 1028 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:28,560 sky strictly for the culture. Wrestle fine dressed to impress 1029 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:36,680 and show your shine strictly for the culture every day. 1030 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,880 Visit www.strictlyfortheculture.ca. 1031 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,000 Backstage whispers and the crowds roar from matching giants 1032 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,800 to legends of your Devon's wisdom and Duke's keen view. 1033 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,240 Every episode feels like it's brand new. 1034 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,880 Devon and Duke bring the heat. Wrestling tails knock you off 1035 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,040 your seat. 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