1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,000 You are locked in. Listen what we have here folks, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,400 to the only show that matters, the. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,400 Queen of the crop. Duke loves wrestling. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,040 And there is no one that does it better than your. 5 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:15,640 House. I have come here to chew bubble 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,600 gum and kick ass and I'm all out of bubble. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,480 Brothers and sisters, welcome back. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Welcome back to another wonderful edition of the Devon 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,040 and the Duke Podcast. This is a limited edition series 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,240 hosted by your main man. Duke loves wrestling and of 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,640 course the Hall of Famer, one of the greatest of all times. 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Let me say this, the entrepreneur, this man has his 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,080 hands in a whole lot of different cookie jars here and 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,520 all it is is just making money and life is sunny. 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Mr. Devon Dudley, how you doing there, Devon? 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,000 I'm good, not bad, not bad at all. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Tired is all hell, but good. I was going to say, man, you're 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,680 going to have to clone yourself because you got so much going 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,080 on, brother. I don't even know how you find 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,520 the time for it. Between the kids, the business, 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,160 the wrestling, it's, it's crazy, ma'am. 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,960 I saw a post on your Instagram testify Devon. 23 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,960 By the way, folks, if you're not following Devon on Instagram, 24 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:26,520 you need to some really, really cool stuff that he posts and 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,200 repost on there every single day. 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,360 But I saw a post about your detailing business. 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,000 So so tell me about this here because this is not something 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,800 we've ever revealed on the show before. 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,480 Devon Dudley has a car detailing business. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Yes, it's a mobile detailing business. 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,480 I went in the business with a friend of mine I was in high 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,200 school with and he came up with the idea of doing it. 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,240 He he loves cars, He he like, I like wrestling, he loves 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,600 detailing and doing all that stuff. 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,480 So what we find is a headache. He finds pleasure. 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,520 So he enjoys doing that. And he came up with the idea of 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,560 starting in Fort Lauderdale, making his way up up into 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Orlando area with a with a mobile detailing business. 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,040 And I at first I was a little hesitant. 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,840 And then finally he convinced me on some things and I said, all 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,960 right, let's do it. We started off with using some 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:32,760 of the boys, Sasha Banks, Zack Ryder, you know, Charlotte 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Flair, Marina in AW. Oh yeah. 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Maria Shafir. Yeah. 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Maria Shafir, Yep, Rhonda's good friend. 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,040 There's a lot of other people that forgive me. 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Chelsea, Chelsea Green, we do her cars. 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,960 A lot of the guys and girls in in wrestling, we do their cars. 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Oh God, I know I'm missing a lot more of the names and it'll come 50 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,200 to me. But we started doing it with the 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,200 boys and then all of a sudden we ventured out into, you know, 52 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,120 regular people and it really hit big time and caught 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,520 corporations, things like that. So we go as far as Miami all the 54 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,960 way up to Winter Park. Wow, wow. 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:33,800 So so if if I had a too much of a good time over the weekend and 56 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,320 my car is is is not not smelling the way that it needs to smell 57 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,840 because you know, we were having too much of a party and good 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 time. Would have you, you mean to tell 59 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,960 me that your detailing company will come to me if I'm in, if 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 I'm in the Miami area, let's say, and you all get me fixed 61 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,360 up, right? Oh, absolutely. 62 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,200 You won't be disappointed, that's for sure. 63 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Wow, wow. See this folks, this man now. 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Now what's the name of the of the company that diva? 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,400 It's 3D auto detailing and it's again, you can find it on 66 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Instagram and as well as as Facebook. 67 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,200 You know, we do everything that you could imagine and there's no 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,200 problem big enough that we can't take care of. 69 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Wow, that is awesome. That is awesome folks on 70 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Instagram, it's three the letter D SO3D under score automotive, 71 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,360 the whole word there under score detailing. 72 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,840 So definitely check it out on Instagram. 73 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:35,920 Get more information taking a look at some of the the finished 74 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,480 product here, which is pretty cool. 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,400 And just like you said, Mercedes Monet, she is the second photo 76 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,120 on the Instagram page there and she's standing behind a shiny 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 vehicle there, looks brand new. So that's it. 78 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,440 You said the boss gave a call, so I had the report for duty. 79 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,160 There you go. I like that. 80 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,560 I like that man. You just don't stop. 81 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:00,720 You know, you got the detailing thing. 82 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,600 The cigars are going through the roof. 83 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,480 And in fact, you were recently at an event with some some 84 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,760 wonderful ladies giving some information about your your new 85 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,320 brand of cigars, right? Yeah, basically it was, there 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,240 was a, it was the first cigar lounge that I had ever gone to 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,920 here, over here in Melbourne. And it's called Executive 88 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,000 lounge. And there's a young lady that 89 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,520 works behind the bar that I became good friends with where 90 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,480 she came to me and asked me, she said, would you mind coming to 91 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,120 speak to a women's group and things like that? 92 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 And I was like, absolutely, I'll do that. 93 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,400 And, you know, tell them about my back story and how everything 94 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,320 has transpired for me in my life and it won't. 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,880 It worked out really, really well started, you know, talking 96 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,640 about the cigars and all of that. 97 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Everybody was really eager and can't wait for it to come out. 98 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,240 And it was one of those things where, you know, I was happy to 99 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,920 have done the speaking engagement and I'll be doing a 100 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,040 lot more with them. You know, it's just one of those 101 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,400 things where you get the word out about the cigars and things 102 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,360 like that. It's all about connections. 103 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,840 And that's what you have to do. You have to make connections. 104 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,120 And that's what that's what we do. 105 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,320 That's what we do for sure. And and listen, you know, one of 106 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,400 the the best parts about doing this, this podcast series with 107 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,680 you here, Devon, is just the fact that we are building a 108 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,360 wonderful community. A very high percentage of women 109 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,840 listen to the show, which I'm very proud of and I appreciate 110 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:33,640 because that's something that even on the Duke Loves wrestling 111 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,720 show it, It's been like that for a number of years. 112 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,920 So the fact that we can do that here on Devon and the Duke is 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,440 really cool. So the fact that you are 114 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,560 partnering with a women's group in a in a cigar lounge where 115 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,760 women feel comfortable there and they can partake and enjoy 116 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,840 themselves and let loose the fact that they wanted Devon 117 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:56,040 Dudley to come and speak to them is so wonderful. 118 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,480 And that is a testament to the the great businessman and human 119 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,200 being that you are. So it's really, really cool. 120 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Now I got to ask you the question though, for anyone who 121 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,520 hasn't tried it yet, how are the cigars? 122 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,880 You got this line of cigars with Notorious Cigar Company. 123 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,040 How are the deep on Dudley cigars? 124 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Well, they're doing good. I just got a couple of samples 125 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,160 that I'm going to be bringing on the road with me. 126 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:25,120 I'll be in Manheim Comic Con or Manheim Khan, I should say, in 127 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,000 Pennsylvania this week. I'm going to bring a couple of 128 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,880 these samples with me and pretty much just giving them out to 129 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,320 some of the people that want to try to smoke cigars and let me 130 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,040 know how you like them. They're doing great and you 131 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,320 know, I'm loving everything about it. 132 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,200 The advertisement has been very, very good. 133 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,360 A Fairway Cigar has been really, really doing a great job in 134 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,720 promoting this and and really getting it out of there. 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Just met with the guy from Columbia who came down who's 136 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,160 doing the cigars as well, wrapping it and doing all of 137 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,640 that. We basically had a great 138 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,120 conversation the other day and basically really, really excited 139 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,520 about how this is going to really, really, you know, be 140 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,960 launched and, and things like that. 141 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 So we're looking forward to everything that's going on right 142 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,880 now. Unbelievable, unbelievable, man. 143 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,040 I'm so proud of you. I mean, you, you got your bobble 144 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,080 heads, you got, you got your face on cups, you got cigars, 145 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,000 you got the car detailing business. 146 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,800 I mean, Jesus, Devon Dudley is in demand. 147 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,920 That's pretty. I mean, thank God. 148 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,800 How does it feel seriously, man, because you know, you're you're 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,840 somebody who your bump car is not filled yet. 150 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,559 You definitely still got some gas in the tank. 151 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,559 But you know, we, we're on the other side of that. 152 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,520 We're, we're winding down a little bit here. 153 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,960 The fact that in 2024, Devon Dudley is in this much demand 154 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,240 where people legitimately anything that you're associated 155 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,680 with, they want to be a part of and they want to check out and 156 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:00,240 they're interested in. How does it feel to to to still 157 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,760 matter to this degree so much in 2024? 158 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,200 I mean, it's great. I mean, you know, you talk about 159 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,760 33 years and and the brand is still going, still going strong. 160 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 I am very happy about that. And you know, it's through the 161 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,520 grace of God that you know that is happening. 162 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,400 So very happy, very content with that and I'm just grateful. 163 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Well, I'm grateful too, because I, I've been Privy to some 164 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,360 information and I know that, you know, as good as 2024 has been, 165 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,200 2025 is going to be an even bigger year for the entire Devon 166 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Dudley brand and everything associated with it. 167 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,760 So you know, brother, you just, you keep going, man, because 168 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,800 you're making it work. And, and more importantly, 169 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,080 you're showing others, you're showing your peers and you're 170 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,080 showing folks who are younger in the business and, and, and who 171 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,600 are coming up what's possible. All these years later, you could 172 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:58,520 still find ways to make money, diversify your portfolio and 173 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,960 remain relevant. You know what I mean it which 174 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,040 which is really, really cool. So again, kudos to you on that. 175 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaking of relevancy, hot off the presses, folks, this is 176 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,800 legitimately one of the craziest things that you could ever hear. 177 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,760 And she didn't just do it once. This is the second time that 178 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,720 she's done it. Somehow, someway, the great 179 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Linda McMahon has officially been named to a presidential 180 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,240 administration for the second time. 181 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,320 But instead of running the Small Business Administration, she 182 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,720 will now be heading up our Department of Education for the 183 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,520 United States of America. This is incredible news. 184 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Linda McMahon, as we know, part of the great McMahon family that 185 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,480 created the WWF, what we call WWE now. 186 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,480 At one time she was actually president of the WWF. 187 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,120 She is someone who is well regarded and well respected for 188 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,320 being on top of things. She knows her stuff, You know, 189 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,600 whether we're talking in pro wrestling or whether we're 190 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,920 talking politically, just in general, Linda McMahon is 191 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 somebody that people have a tremendous amount of respect and 192 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,560 admiration for. In fact, I gotta be honest, I've 193 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:20,800 never heard anyone say anything negative about this woman. 194 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,680 And it's, it's interesting because not too many people can, 195 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,000 can maintain that level, that degree of respect across the 196 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,960 board like Linda has and quite frankly, like you have Devon. 197 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,800 So I definitely want to get your thoughts. 198 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,360 What are your thoughts on Linda McMahon being named Secretary of 199 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,200 Education for the United States of America? 200 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,360 I think it's great. Linda is a phenomenal lady. 201 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Like you said, it's not a bad thing said about her. 202 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:53,600 She's got a great heart. She's got a great mind. 203 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,200 I mean, Vince was the, how do I say this? 204 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,800 Vince was the mind behind the storylines and things like that 205 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,520 of the WWE, but Linda was the brain of the corporation that 206 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,640 kept the deals going and things like that. 207 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,120 So Vince wouldn't have to worry about that and only concentrate 208 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,560 on building his brand from the inside. 209 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,160 So to have Linda doing that, I think it's tremendous. 210 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,000 You know, again, I love, I love Linda very much. 211 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,200 So in terms of, you know, the way she is conducts herself and 212 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,080 carries herself, she's always been spot on. 213 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,760 She's always been very kind, very witty, very just outgoing 214 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,960 with people. I mean, she's definitely the 215 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,000 type of person that you would want to do business with and 216 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,320 she's definitely someone that you could be proud to say that 217 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,840 the position that she has, she's going to do a great job at it. 218 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,280 So I love the fact that she's taking on that responsibility 219 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,440 and doing that in and I only the only person I think that would 220 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,600 be fit enough to do that would be Linda. 221 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,440 So congratulations on on that. I'm sure. 222 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,680 I'm going to have to say congratulations on all your 223 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:05,680 success moving forward because it's going to be exactly that 224 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,880 successful. Yeah, no question about it. 225 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,480 She she's going to continue to knock it out of the park because 226 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,480 that's been her track record. That's just who Linda McMahon 227 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,200 is. And you know, there are folks 228 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,080 out there and and I understand it. 229 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,080 I get it. As someone who has spent the 230 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 majority of their career working in some form of government, I 231 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,280 understand this, US versus them, this, this, you know, Bloods and 232 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Crips, red and blue and all this other nonsense here that people 233 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,640 feed into. But folks, at the end of the 234 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,200 day, we're talking about human beings. 235 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,080 And as wrestling fans, the fact that somebody from this world, 236 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:44,440 whether whether you're a Hall of Famer like Devon Dudley who 237 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,360 worked closely with Linda, or whether you're just a lifelong 238 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:54,000 fan like me, to be able to see somebody from this world achieve 239 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,800 so much. I mean, legitimately, she's the 240 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,360 most successful person politically in the history of 241 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,080 pro wrestling, no question about it. 242 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,560 And it's fascinating to see, you know what I mean? 243 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:08,960 So it just goes to show this whole pro wrestling thing ain't 244 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,920 so bad and there's a lot you can make of it. 245 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,520 You just heard Devon talk about all his different businesses and 246 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,640 things like that. We're talking about Linda 247 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,720 McMahon, who again, this is her second appointment in the 248 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,400 presidential administration. How many people can say that? 249 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,200 So, you know, definitely kudos to her and, and, and kudos to 250 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,120 the entire wrestling industry, which gets taken even more 251 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,360 seriously because of people like Linda McMahon. 252 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,400 So that's that's a major win there. 253 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,840 Devon, you worked with Linda in the WWE. 254 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 So I'm going to pick your brain about this because people were 255 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,200 blown away when you talked about the fact that you produced 256 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:52,080 those, the 24/7 title segments with R Truth and Reggie and, 257 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,920 and, and, and what have you there. 258 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,440 So let's talk a little bit about Linda. 259 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,120 How was it working directly with her? 260 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,120 And, and do you have any specific stories that stick out 261 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,720 where it's like, man, this is really cool to experience this 262 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,200 with her? Well, you know, when the 263 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Attitude Era was forming and it was, it was already getting 264 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,360 started and it was going the way it was. 265 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,320 You know, Linda was a big part of that. 266 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,040 And as the Dudley boys started to grow and started to be put 267 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,680 into more challenging roles, even with the McMahon family and 268 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,600 things like that, there was segments where the Dudley's did 269 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,720 things with Linda. I was very excited about it, you 270 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,040 know, and it really worked really, really well. 271 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,880 I wasn't, believe it or not, I was a little intimidated by it 272 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,840 because, you know, it was Linda McMahon, you know, coming from 273 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,160 the small world, I should say, of, of the wrestling Indies and 274 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,040 then going to ECW and during all of that time period, I knew who 275 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Linda was and Linda was already on TV. 276 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,000 So it was kind of like, you know, seeing Vince for the first 277 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,320 time, you like an or. And it was the same thing I felt 278 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,600 about Linda because I had a lot of respect for Linda. 279 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,720 And like they said in the documentary, Linda didn't really 280 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,000 care to be in front of the camera, but when you ask her to 281 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,160 do it and given the opportunity, she did it and she did it well, 282 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,640 you know? And so to be able to work with 283 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,680 her in that forefront where we've done things promo wise in 284 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,400 the ring with her and things like that, it was really, really 285 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,720 cool to do that with her. And the respect she had for me 286 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,440 and Bubba was just, it was great. 287 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,960 It really was. There was one incident that I 288 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 remember where we weren't working together, but she was 289 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,080 very kind and considerate When we did the TLC match in Raleigh, 290 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,880 this was the this was the, the, the one that was considered the 291 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,880 first one because the one at WrestleMania was a ladder match. 292 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,800 This is the one where I was hanging 20 feet up or thirty, 293 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,200 however many feet I was up hanging with Jeff and I never, 294 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,200 we never told anybody about the bump that I was going to take 295 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,640 because we were scared that it was going to get scratched. 296 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,200 And I remember we were all saying that. 297 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:17,920 And so the bump where I'm hanging with Jeff and I, you 298 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,079 know, let go and hit the mat from how from how many many feet 299 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,160 up we were. I remember coming through the 300 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,319 back and Linda grabbed me and she said, are you OK? 301 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,160 And I said, yes, I'm fine, thank you. 302 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,160 I said, why? She was like, that was a hell of 303 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,840 a bump you took. Good God. 304 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,400 She was like, when I saw you take it, I cringed. 305 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,960 She was like, I could not believe you fell from that 306 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,000 height. And I, I played it off. 307 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,920 I was like, oh, it was nothing. And she laughed and she says, 308 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,120 OK. She said, you sure you're OK? 309 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:51,800 I said, Linda, I am fine, please don't worry about it, I am fine. 310 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Meanwhile, I'm dying inside because that bump hurt. 311 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,240 But I wasn't going to let Linda know that, you know? 312 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,640 So that showed me a lot because she didn't have to pull me aside 313 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,880 and ask me. She could have just asked me one 314 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,320 time and walked away and that's it. 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,800 Or she didn't have to ask me at all. 316 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,440 But she did. And I always felt grateful for 317 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,040 that because it showed that she cared. 318 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,080 She could have easily turned her back, went to talk to Vince or 319 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,840 somebody else and didn't have to say anything to me in the back, 320 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,200 but she did. So I was very grateful for that. 321 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,920 And that's one of the memories that sticks out with me, with 322 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,640 Linda. That's deep. 323 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,360 That's deep. And, and I'm noticing a, a 324 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:34,320 consistent pattern because ironically, the way that you 325 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,800 speak of Linda is similar to how you speak as Stephanie McMahon 326 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,400 and, and, and Triple H and Vince and what have you. 327 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,000 These folks are actually pretty good to you. 328 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:50,480 Yes, this was phenomenal. Again, I get what he's going up 329 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,440 against the the trial that's was postponed as I guess going to be 330 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,600 coming soon and all the alleged allegations and I say alleged 331 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,720 because he has not been proven guilty. 332 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,240 So alleged allegations, you know, it's to me he, he was 333 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,840 just, he was, he was great. He, he helped me with, you know, 334 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,360 he helped me buy this house I live in. 335 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,280 He helped put my kids through college. 336 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,800 I mean, he really did wonders for me. 337 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,240 And I'll always be grateful for that. 338 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,840 You know, the whole McMahon family was good to me. 339 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,720 I can't stress enough. And then, of course, you know, I 340 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,800 give praises to Triple H because it was Hunter that actually gave 341 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,440 the idea of me becoming a producer after Bubba and I had 342 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,800 left the company as talent. So, you know, I've gotten, I 343 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,440 don't have a bad thing to say about anybody in that company. 344 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,360 I, I, I, I, I'm very grateful for what they all did for me and 345 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,600 how they helped me out and how they protected me over the 346 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,080 years. It just when it just seemed like 347 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,800 it was over, somebody in that family always said, Nah, you got 348 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,560 another job to do, Stick around, kid, you ain't going nowhere. 349 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,800 And that was, it was great. You know, I remember. 350 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:09,440 Leaving the arena after my last match, I'm sorry, it was a 351 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,680 Monday night Roar. I was leaving the arena and I 352 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,760 bumped into Triple H and he goes, hey, Devon. 353 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,000 He was like, I think thank you for the opportunity. 354 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 I really appreciate it. And I'm I won't let you down. 355 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,760 And he goes, no, I know you won't. 356 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Have you spoken to Stephanie? Have you seen Stephanie? 357 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,280 I said, no, I didn't. And I remember shaking her hand 358 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,800 and she shook my hand very firmly and she said, I'll see 359 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,240 you soon, right? And she gave me that look and I 360 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,760 just went, yes, you will, you know, I said yes, you will, 361 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,680 you'll see me soon. And I will never forget that. 362 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,120 She stopped mid conversation to who she was talking to just to 363 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,360 say that to me. And that just showed me a lot on 364 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:00,160 her behalf and I was very grateful for that. 365 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,640 So, you know, again, the whole McMahon family out I, I just 366 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,920 can't stress enough how grateful I am for them, for the 367 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,520 opportunities that was given to me. 368 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,760 And you know, the sky was the limit, and they let me reach 369 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,120 that sky many times. You know, we're we're 370 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:21,880 experiencing something very interesting in our society right 371 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,200 now here in the United States. And I can't speak for the rest 372 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,360 of the world. I know that a lot of things 373 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,400 mirror each other and what have you. 374 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,080 But here in the United States, we're we're experiencing 375 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:38,600 something interesting where the whole notion of thinking things 376 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,160 are one way because you're being told they're one way and then 377 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,480 finding out that it ain't really that way anymore. 378 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,120 It's interesting. And people are getting a, a cold 379 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,160 dose of reality as a result of that. 380 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,680 So not to get too political, but a lot of people, myself 381 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:04,600 included, assumed that our next president was going to be Kamala 382 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,280 Harris. And certainly there were polls 383 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,800 saying that and this and that saying that and looks like he 384 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,160 was going that direction. And it looked like the Democrats 385 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:20,160 were going to be back in style. And to everyone shocked, that is 386 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,480 not the case at all. It was basically a sweep by the 387 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Republicans and, and Trump won decisively. 388 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,480 WWE Hall of Famer Donald Trump, he won decisively in that race. 389 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,520 He is a two time president now. Can't take it away from him. 390 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:40,400 It is what it is. And I think that whole situation 391 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,720 was a rebuke on our entire system because Donald Trump is 392 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,760 not a regular politician and, and no matter how you slice it, 393 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,720 it is what it is. He's something entirely 394 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,440 different. He's his own classification, 395 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,760 whether you like him or you don't like him. 396 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,280 I believe that what we're going to experience over the next 397 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,760 couple of years is a new awakening where people are going 398 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,720 to stop this nonsense of holding others to a standard that they 399 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,880 can't even hold themselves to. And here's what I mean by that. 400 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Devon Dudley just relayed exactly why he feels the way 401 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,480 that he feels about the McMahon family, the house that he lives 402 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,640 in today, that he raised his kids in and what have you. 403 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,360 That family, by providing him with as many opportunities as 404 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:34,160 he's had in every single time Devon busted his butt, blood, 405 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,080 sweat, and tears. He, he, he bled, he sweat, and 406 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,600 he paid the price of a resting lifetime, as Rick Flair would 407 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,160 say, right? He earned it. 408 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,160 But that family provided those opportunities. 409 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:52,280 It would be embarrassing. It would be such a scumbag thing 410 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:58,880 to do to have the audacity to talk down on that family, given 411 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,080 the fact that you have been afforded the opportunity to earn 412 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,080 so much and to do so much and to accomplish far more in your 413 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,880 career than maybe you even thought you could, at least in 414 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,200 the beginning. So I want everybody who's 415 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,120 listening out there. It's OK those of us who who, who 416 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,440 can look at reality and be adults about things. 417 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240 It's OK to come out and, and stretch and, and, and let the 418 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,000 world know you're here. We don't need to play these US 419 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,120 versus them games. And we don't need to pretend 420 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,080 like our lives haven't been what they've been. 421 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,280 You know, there is no reason for this man to talk down on that 422 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,120 family. Of course, you can have your 423 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,160 gripes, you could have your disagreements, but overall, they 424 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,800 treated them right, and that's the end of it. 425 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,200 So Devon, I I respect you even more for the fact that you're 426 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,720 telling the truth the way that you are, and you're not afraid 427 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,320 to do so. And you've been consistent 428 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,960 since. Since episode 1, you've been 429 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,280 consistent. You haven't allowed anyone to 430 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 bully you off of telling the truth. 431 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,400 No, they were good to me. They took care of me. 432 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Yeah, there may have been create creative differences here. 433 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,560 Yeah. I felt like I could have done 434 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,480 more there. But overall, they were good to 435 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,160 me. I respect you for that. 436 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Absolutely, Absolutely. And you know, one of the things 437 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,560 that bothered me the most and why I was so vocal about it was 438 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,200 because when I, and I said this before on the show, when I made 439 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,640 the comment about Stephanie, when I said I was infatuated 440 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,040 with her as opposed to what's the word not infatuated? 441 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,520 What it, what was I saying? I should have said I it'll come 442 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,000 to me later, but it wasn't the word infatuated. 443 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Like I wasn't like they made it seem like I was in love with 444 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,440 her, like I wanted to be with her. 445 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,840 And so and I'm like, no, that wasn't the case at all. 446 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,640 Maybe it was the wrong choice of words, but that was not the case 447 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,480 at all. And they took it out of content. 448 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,680 And This is why I have a problem with some of the dirt sheet 449 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,440 riders, because they take things out of content that they 450 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,600 shouldn't say. I respect Stephanie very much. 451 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800 You know, never once would I ever cross that line with her, 452 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,040 you know, and never once would I ever want to disrespect Triple 453 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760 H. That's his wife, for crying out 454 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,280 loud, the mother of his kids. Why would I even want to attempt 455 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,400 to say something or do something like that is beyond me. 456 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,960 So why these sheet riders, dirt sheet riders decided they wanted 457 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,760 to print that stuff was crazy. That's one of the reasons why 458 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,560 whether you want to say I'm infatuated or admire, Admire 459 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,800 should have been the word about Stephanie McMahon because she's 460 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,400 been great to me. She didn't have to be. 461 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,760 You know, Stephanie could have turned up her nose and walked 462 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,680 the other way every time she saw me, but she didn't. 463 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,960 She always greeted me with open arms. 464 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,040 If my back was turned and I didn't see her come in, she 465 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,080 would make it known. And hey, Devon, how you doing? 466 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,640 I turn around. Oh, Steph, what's going on? 467 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680 It was stuff like that. That's when you know somebody's 468 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,800 genuine let your back be turned and they still acknowledge you 469 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,840 when they don't have to. And she's done that. 470 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,400 I've seen her do that, not only with me, but with other people 471 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,120 she's done that with, you know, So it's one of those things 472 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,160 where, you know, I'll, I, like you said, I'll always be 473 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,960 grateful for them from Vince all the way down. 474 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,360 And you have every reason to be and that's the most important 475 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,400 thing. It's funny, I was, you know, 476 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,840 part of doing this whole podcasting thing is that you 477 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,560 have to build community. So I mean, I, I have a, a number 478 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040 of social media accounts that are related to the shows and, 479 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,000 and I have a private wrestling group. 480 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,960 So other fans like almost like a focus group really, you know, 481 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,360 things that they feel are important or talk about what 482 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,720 have you. Those are the things that 483 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,360 generally make it on the show. And I also, you know, checking 484 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,840 on other groups just to see what people are talking about to stay 485 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080 current. And I was very surprised that 486 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,880 different things, for instance, the Undertaker having Trump on 487 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,360 his podcast and people having a problem with that. 488 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,080 And you know, it, it, it boggles my mind. 489 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Here you have a guy in Donald Trump who is a long time 490 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:09,400 investor in the WWE, who is in the WWE Hall of Fame, despite 491 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000 the fact that he's this billionaire and, and he's this, 492 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,440 this mega personality, he's been a superstar pretty much our 493 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,040 entire lives, Devon. He's somebody who never had, I 494 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,880 don't think he necessarily needed wrestling. 495 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,320 So the fact that he always went out of his way to be associated 496 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,360 with wrestling and, and really has helped wrestling, it doesn't 497 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,920 make any sense for somebody like the Undertaker who's been around 498 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:39,280 as long as he has to not embrace somebody like Donald Trump. 499 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,440 Why wouldn't you? That's the guy, you know, that's 500 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,120 the guy who who's helped you make money. 501 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,120 And that's the guy who has helped keep the company that 502 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,280 kept the lights on for you and your family relevant in his own 503 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,560 way, using his star power to to add to that. 504 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,520 So it's, it's common sense. Forget about politics, folks. 505 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520 It's common sense. If you can't show loyalty to the 506 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,600 people who've been there for you, I'm sorry. 507 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,160 I have a problem with that. And, and I can't, I don't trust 508 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,360 you, quite frankly. We don't have to agree 509 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,920 politically. And I, and I make no bones about 510 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 the fact that I don't necessarily agree with Trump 511 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,840 and, and those folks politically. 512 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,640 But I'm gonna tell you this, anyone who's supporting him, if 513 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,520 you have that kind of history with him, I don't have a problem 514 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,360 with that. I shrugged my shoulders and I 515 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720 said that's life. You better support your homeboy 516 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,160 because he supported you. So even when we're talking about 517 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,200 the McMahon family and, and, and people can have their gripes and 518 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,240 some are legit and some are made-up, especially a lot of you 519 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840 fans. You make up your own issues to 520 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040 have with people. When you hear these wrestlers 521 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,160 tell these stories about how they were treated, especially in 522 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,120 a positive manner, don't don't turn up your nose and act like a 523 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,920 jerk because if you would turn your back on people who took 524 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,280 care of you, then what is what kind of person are you on the 525 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600 inside? And I'll I'll, I'll leave it at 526 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,040 that. You know, you know when I get on 527 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,280 my box, Steve on folks got to watch out now, you know. 528 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,440 You know, that's one of the things that I always say. 529 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,320 You sit there and you take care of somebody. 530 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,440 You, you watch them, you nurture them, you make sure they're 531 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,960 good. And then all of a sudden, you 532 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,400 know, they get a little taste of glory and they turn their back 533 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,920 on you. And that's life. 534 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,160 And that's how things go. But you know, karma is a bitch 535 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320 and it pays you back in one way, shape or form. 536 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Don't start getting on your knees asking God why when you 537 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,000 already know the reason why. And a lot of people don't think 538 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,920 karma is real, but it is. It's very real. 539 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,000 And you know, I love the fact that it pays back people the way 540 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480 it does. It doesn't come on your time, it 541 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840 comes on its time. And everybody who has a bit of 542 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,960 cup to drink from will drink from that cup one day. 543 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 And when they do, they're going to have to realize it that they 544 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,480 made their own bed. So I could never, ever do that 545 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,160 to somebody that's helped feed me and my family. 546 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,560 Yeah, I mean, listen, like they say, man, you either stand for 547 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,560 something or you're going to fall for everything, you know, 548 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160 and, and integrity matters, at least it does to me and I know 549 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,160 it. It matters to you. 550 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160 So that's that's good stuff. We'll probably get cancelled for 551 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,440 that, that entire that entire segment there. 552 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 We'll probably get cancelled for but it'll be worth it, you know? 553 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,240 Unbeliev. Speaking of unbelievable, let's 554 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,880 talk a little unbelievable here. Tony Khan has a quote that is 555 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,760 trending and folks are are are writing entire think pieces 556 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,400 about it because it's so ridiculous. 557 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,760 So I want to get your thoughts on this here, Devon, Tony Kahn 558 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:52,520 says, I really think most of the top black wrestlers in the world 559 00:31:52,840 --> 00:32:00,360 are now in AEW. So, so Tony Kahn, I, I guess he, 560 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840 I don't know it did. Is he the savior now? 561 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,480 Is he Moses leaving, leading folks to the promised land? 562 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640 Most he didn't say. Some he didn't say that. 563 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,960 You know, I feel we have the best he he said no. 564 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,080 Most of the top black wrestlers in the world are in AE W. 565 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,960 What are your thoughts on that, Devon? 566 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:26,360 Well, Tony Khan's done it again. That's all I got to say. 567 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,840 He's done it again. You know, you get a couple in 568 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,760 your company and now you think you got all of them. 569 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200 He. Got a ball, he got a ball. 570 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Somebody. Collected baseball cards. 571 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Somebody's got to know when to press that mute button over 572 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:46,880 there. Brother, they are rewriting the 573 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,320 history every, every chance they get, and it's so ridiculous 574 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,720 because we have the receipts. Tony Khan had to be forced. 575 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,960 He had to be forced. He had to be shamed into hiring 576 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,640 more black male wrestlers in particular, right? 577 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,520 He had to be shamed into doing it. 578 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480 And now suddenly he, he's Moses. You know what I mean? 579 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800 He hey, let my people go. That's who he is. 580 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400 He's a savior. It's ridiculous. 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,680 I'm seeing, I'm seeing reports from these these humanoids who 582 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,520 are claiming exorbitant contract amounts that there's no way that 583 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,240 they're true. And I think it's dangerous. 584 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,920 And I'm going to call it out on the show saying things like, 585 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,560 well, you know, Shelton Benjamin is making $2.5 million in AEW. 586 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,440 Now, let me tell you something. I hope that's true because I 587 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,840 respect and appreciate Shelton Benjamin. 588 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,800 I think that you, you are not going to find a finer wrestler 589 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,000 on the planet than Shelton Benjamin. 590 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,600 And I think that's a man who deserves, you know, all that 591 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,120 life can offer him and then some. 592 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,240 But there's no way on God's green earth he's making $2.5 593 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,080 million a year in any wrestling company. 594 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840 And if that's just a straight contract, we're not talking 595 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000 merchandise and incentives and anything else. 596 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,600 Straight money, he's making 2.5 million. 597 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,440 If he's making that kind of money, then what are you paying 598 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Bobby Lashley? Are you paying him $20 million? 599 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,880 Like what? You know what I mean? 600 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,199 This guy's a multi time world champion or what have you. 601 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,600 Like, come on, what are we talking about right now, guys? 602 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,159 You know, but they, they plant these weird stories to try to 603 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:31,639 make it seem like Tony Khan is doing so much and it matters so 604 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:32,880 much. Well, I look at a little 605 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,199 differently. You're in a situation right now 606 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,520 where you're making these claims that you're, you're paying all 607 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,960 these black wrestlers so much money and that you got all the 608 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,800 black, the best black wrestlers and what have you. 609 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,880 And that coincides with the fact that you're having some of the 610 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,639 worst ratings, not some of you're having the worst ratings 611 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,639 and you're having the worst attendance in company history. 612 00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:00,560 You better not Tony Kahn. You better not blame the 613 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,160 increase of black wrestlers on your roster as the reason why 614 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,360 your company's in the toilet. Because make no mistake about 615 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,520 it, brother, a lot of this stuff that you're claiming and that 616 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,840 you have your your surrogates claiming is all foolishness. 617 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,600 In reality, it's just your poor management that's killing that 618 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,480 company. You know what I mean? 619 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,240 So I, I look at it from a different perspective. 620 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,880 Again, the whole political thing where you, you got to look 621 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,840 beyond what's in front of you. You're not going to blame our 622 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,760 people for the fact that your company is, is, is, is screwing 623 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,800 up. Well, I gave them all this money 624 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,240 and I brought them in like you guys said. 625 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,920 And look, it hurt the company. Don't play that game, Tony. 626 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,760 And I'm on top of you. I'm listening to everything you 627 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,080 say because I'm waiting for the day where you, you talk that 628 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,840 nonsense. You know what I mean? 629 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Because I can see where it's coming. 630 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,240 I don't know, Devon, am I, am I missing something here? 631 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:52,160 What do you think? Well, like I said, he's done it 632 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,600 again. Done. 633 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,880 It again. He's done it again. 634 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,400 You know, the one person I like to hear from from time to time, 635 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,880 I'll go on his podcast and listen is Jim Cornette. 636 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,800 Because he doesn't. He doesn't hold anything back 637 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,920 when it comes to AW or Tony Khan. 638 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,040 He just lets it RIP. And I find it pretty much 639 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,120 entertaining and amusing at times, you know, because a lot 640 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120 of people are scared to say certain things or what have you. 641 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,720 But Cornett is not afraid to say anything at all. 642 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,600 And the guy who does the podcast with exit on, though, you know, 643 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,440 look, man, I don't even know what to say. 644 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,200 I, I just got to think, you know, he's got to, he's got to, 645 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200 he's got to stop somewhere. You know, he's got to stop. 646 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,920 You know, these comments aren't going to get him anywhere. 647 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,880 And you know, I mean, yes, you have some great African American 648 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,920 talent in your company that are great. 649 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:56,640 The herd business has really are doing a really good job, you 650 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,440 know, and this and that. And I'm glad you got guys like 651 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,120 that in your company. But remember, there are so many 652 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,880 other African American stars that are out there in different 653 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080 country and different companies that you don't have yet. 654 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,360 So you can't say most. I wouldn't even say most. 655 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:21,160 I'll be spectacle, say some. You know, I think again, you 656 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,280 have to be very wise and very conscientious on how you use the 657 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,840 words that you use sometimes because you know, it'll be taken 658 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040 out of content, whether you mean it that way or not, it'll be 659 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,720 taken a different way. And you can't blame anybody for 660 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,440 getting on you for doing that. Absolutely. 661 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080 Absolutely. And especially when you know, 662 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,440 guy like Tony who has a history of just being very disingenuous 663 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,200 about everything you, you marketed, that company is going 664 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,040 to be everything for everyone. You know, women are going to be 665 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,240 paid equally. And, and we're going to, we're 666 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,120 going to treat everybody. Everyone's going to have an 667 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960 equal opportunity to do everything. 668 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,080 And you know, we love the LGBTQ plus folks and blah, blah, blah. 669 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,040 And then at every turn you see it always falls short and it 670 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440 falls short by mile. And you start to ask yourself, 671 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960 are you just saying things like a politician? 672 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,000 Really? Are you just telling me what I 673 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,080 want to hear but then doing the complete opposite? 674 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,720 And I'm sorry, There's a reason why the little bit of fans you 675 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:24,160 had have literally run for the hills, brother. 676 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160 Because you just, you're not. You don't deliver on the things 677 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,360 that you promise. And it sucks. 678 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920 And you can only treat the consumer a certain way for so 679 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,640 long before they just stop showing up. 680 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,440 You know what I mean? So just bear that in mind. 681 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,040 But I, I saw that comment and I see people, you know, trying to 682 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,600 make excuses and what have you. And it's like Tony Khan doesn't 683 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,200 need a translator. He said what he said. 684 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,240 He's speaking English, folks. He said what he said. 685 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,520 So we can, we can hold him accountable for what comes out 686 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200 of his mouth. And that's that. 687 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,440 You know, Devon, the biggest thing that happened over the 688 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,760 past, you know, since we we last recorded with each other is the 689 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,680 Mike Tyson, Jake Paul match up. There was boxing match on 690 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,440 Netflix. First time Netflix ever had a 691 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200 big event like that and it actually crashed Netflix. 692 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,840 They were having streaming issues because so many people 693 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480 were were logging in to watch this spectacle. 694 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,240 In the end, you know, Jake Paul won the match, unanimous 695 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,800 decision, 8 rounds, 2 minute rounds. 696 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,120 So they were quick, but 8 rounds and I, I got to tell you, man, 697 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120 just like you, Devon, I, I grew up watching Mike Tyson. 698 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,000 I'm fortunate enough to have seen all of his fights on 699 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,480 pay-per-view and, and what have you. 700 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,920 Whatever that was in that ring, that wasn't Mike Tyson, not 701 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,720 because he couldn't do it. The guy in the ring couldn't do 702 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,720 it, but it's because the guy in the ring refused to do it. 703 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560 And you know, there's a lot of speculation. 704 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,280 He made more money. As the fight went on, you know, 705 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,480 you, you got paid more if you, if you made it to the next 706 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,000 round, to the next round, to the next round. 707 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,280 So, you know, Mike Tyson made over $20 million on that one 708 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,720 fight, which congratulations to him and his family. 709 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,280 Can't blame the guy for that. Jake Paul made over $40 million. 710 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,120 Wow, that kid knows how to make money. 711 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,480 So congratulations to him too. But that was a slap in the face 712 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160 for the sport of boxing in my opinion. 713 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,720 And I, you can't, you couldn't convince me that Mike Tyson 714 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,080 can't beat the hell out of Jake Paul because we saw flashes 715 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,840 there and Mike was quick as it as it as a cat. 716 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,400 So it's not like he couldn't do it. 717 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,160 And the boy couldn't touch me if Mike didn't want him to touch. 718 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,240 So that was a fix in my opinion. You saw the fight. 719 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,440 What did you think, Devon? I definitely felt the fix was 720 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,760 in. You know, you go from training, 721 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,880 you go from watching Mike the way he was training on his 722 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,920 movements and things like that. You saw that the first thirty, 723 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,680 maybe 40 seconds of the first round with Mike. 724 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,640 But then after that, it just stopped. 725 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,600 And there's no way you could sit there and tell me that the 726 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,520 training that he was doing that we all saw leading up to that 727 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,880 fight was not real. And there were certain instincts 728 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,800 on social media where they show you where there was an 729 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920 opportunity where Mike could have hit him and he didn't. 730 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,760 And, you know, 58 years old, I'm not going to buy that. 731 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,840 He's not that wit enough. Doesn't that witty enough to 732 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,280 know when to take the opportunity to, you know, do do 733 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,280 that to somebody. I just, I just can't buy it. 734 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,760 I the way that fight was in the way it looked, I I cannot buy 735 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,280 that. That was the Mike Tyson. 736 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,160 We saw a training up leading up to that fight and all of that. 737 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480 It was a totally different Mike Tyson. 738 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,640 And you could tell the minute he walked out into that arena that 739 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,000 he it wasn't the Mike of old. And when I say old, like even 740 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,720 during the press conferences and things like that, you saw Mike 741 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,520 the way he was. He was upbeat. 742 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,320 He was gone. You didn't see that walking to 743 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,040 the ring at all. You saw a Mike Tyson that was 744 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,360 already defeated before he even got in that ring. 745 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,400 And I just don't believe that that was Mike had a conversation 746 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,200 with Booker T Booker T actually thinks that it was legit. 747 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,320 And even though, you know, I can't out talk Booker and I'm 748 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840 not going to try. But I think Booker knows a 749 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,200 little bit more about boxing than me. 750 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,400 But I'm sorry, there's no way in hell you can make me believe 751 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,720 that that that fight was not fixed. 752 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,440 I I cannot believe that. There's no way after watching, 753 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,880 like I said, him training, getting ready for this fight and 754 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,520 then to see what I saw. I don't buy it. 755 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520 I mean, we saw Mike's footwork in training and even in the 756 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,120 match we saw Mike's footwork. So you know that come on guys 757 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,040 like this, this is a man holding and, and, and he never put his 758 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,000 power on that boy. Like you said, we saw flashes 759 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,960 here and there, but then Mike would tag him and then he would 760 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,200 make this face and bite his gloves and not follow up after 761 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600 he would tag him. And it's like he was doing 762 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,800 everything in his power not to hurt that young man. 763 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,600 And what I saw in that match, we've seen it time and time 764 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,360 again with with Logan Paul, he's not a boxer. 765 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,600 So I I congratulate him on being smart enough to understand how 766 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,120 to promote a fight and how to get people to spend money to 767 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,160 watch whatever he's doing in the ring. 768 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,880 But he's not a boxer. And that's why he's not going in 769 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,280 the ring for the most. This is the first real boxer he 770 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,600 was in the ring with. And you know, Mike, even at his 771 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,760 age, I think he could destroy this kid. 772 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,360 But again, $20 million, what would you do for $20 million? 773 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:54,080 As much as Mike Tyson has given to sports and to pop culture and 774 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,640 as much has been taken away from Mike Tyson, do I blame him? 775 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040 No. Nonetheless, I just don't like 776 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,240 it. I don't like it. 777 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,400 I grew up watching Mike Tyson. I know what he's capable of and 778 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,400 watching, I've seen all of Jake Paul's fights now and, and, and 779 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,920 seeing what he can do. This guy is he's the poorest 780 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,640 excuse for a boxer I've ever seen. 781 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,080 Like it's just embarrassing that this guy calls himself a boxer 782 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,440 because I don't see improvement on any level from anything that 783 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,880 he does. And you could even I don't even 784 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920 think he was. I feel like he might have been 785 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:37,200 giving his best effort, which is scary because at his age and at 786 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,040 Mike's age and it is over the hill as Mike is, Jake Paul 787 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,720 should have knocked him out if he was a boxer. 788 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:46,200 And I don't necessarily think that Mike Tyson could beat the 789 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,720 top boxers in the world right now. 790 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,640 I'm not going to go that far because I don't I don't think 791 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,280 that's true. I think they would dust him off 792 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,040 pretty, pretty well. Deontay Wilder and some of these 793 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,720 guys, they would, they would hurt Mike, but Jake Paul could 794 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,560 never hurt Mike. So it's just embarrassing that 795 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,320 we even had to to mention them in the same sentence. 796 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,000 It's it's kind of silly, but hey, get your money. 797 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:08,720 Well, it's, it seems like with all the talk that's going on, 798 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:10,880 you might see a Jake Paul, Mike Tyson too. 799 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,560 And if that's the case, I don't think Mike will follow the 800 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,600 script. Listen, he at this point, you, 801 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,280 you don't make 20 million, you might make another 20-30 million 802 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,760 on the second go round. Just knock the boy out, please. 803 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,400 Can, can, can your last fight be you knocking some punk out? 804 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,800 I would love it. You know what I mean? 805 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,880 Come on, Mike, please, Mike, just just give him, give him the 806 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,240 full shebang, please. You know, again, you might see 807 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,640 it if there is a 2, but I don't know, I don't think there will 808 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,040 be a 2. Well, well, let me ask you this, 809 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,000 Devon. If if I pay you $20 million, 810 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,600 will you let me beat you in a match? 811 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,240 Brother, I'll lay down in a heartbeat. 812 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040 I'm like, excuse me, you're not done whooping my ass. 813 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,000 Please no harder, damn it. Harder, I said. 814 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,480 Listen, wait, remember the finger poker doom with with with 815 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,880 Kevin Nash and and and old Kogan with old Kogan? 816 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,800 What did he? He poked him with his finger and 817 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,400 Nash laid down for him and and old and beat him for the batch. 818 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,280 It'll be one of those situations, right? 819 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,880 I'm laying my ass down so fast you couldn't get to your knees 820 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,000 fast enough to count 123 with me. 821 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,200 We're just cutting up this week, boy. 822 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,160 We're just cutting up, Devon. Let everybody know what's the 823 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,960 best way they can reach you out there, brother. 824 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,400 Yeah, sure. So you can reach me on Instagram 825 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,480 at Testify Devon and also Twitter Testify Devon, inbox me, 826 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,920 do all of that good stuff. Love to hear from you, love to 827 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,200 talk to you. And again, don't forget I got 828 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,400 that detailing business down in Fort Lauderdale. 829 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,800 If you're in the Florida area, give us a call. 830 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,640 All the information is on the Instagram feed. 831 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,400 Just give us a call. We'll come detail your car. 832 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,080 You have the Devon Dudley Academy right in Winter Park, 833 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,800 about 3 minutes away from the Performance Center, right around 834 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,400 the corner from Full Sail University. 835 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,240 So come on down. If you want to take your 836 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,480 wrestling career to the next level and you feel like you're 837 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,040 ready, give Devon Dudley Academy a call and we're right here. 838 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,960 You can get that on Devon. You can get that on Devon Dudley 839 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,840 on on Twitter as well as Instagram. 840 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,400 So hit us up and let us know if you're ready to become that next 841 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,120 star. We also have my cigars that will 842 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,560 be spread out throughout the United States and maybe even 843 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640 different countries. Well, I'll definitely let you 844 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,040 know when that's coming out, but you can hit me up on Instagram 845 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,080 to find out if that's what you would want. 846 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,080 We can send them to you. So let us know. 847 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:44,000 And also, you know, we also have just a YouTube channel coming 848 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,720 out. We've already did 5 episodes of 849 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,480 it, so that's going to be coming up very shortly. 850 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,400 I will let you guys know how that's going to work and when 851 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,360 it's coming on and when you can catch it on YouTube. 852 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,640 So you know, Maven can't be the only one that's out there doing 853 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,920 this stuff. I know right? 854 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,840 Maven don't crack the code man on how to do this YouTube thing. 855 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,320 So the fact that the Devon Dudley reality show, that's what 856 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,760 I'm calling it for now, the fact that that's on the horizon is, 857 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,680 is so cool. Again, 2024 has been awesome. 858 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,200 2025 is going to be even bigger for the Devon Dudley brand for 859 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,920 sure. Folks is always Duke loves 860 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,240 wrestling on Facebook, on Twitter, Duke loves 861 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,600 wrestling@gmail.com. Let me know what you think of 862 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,840 the show, Any questions that you have. 863 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,680 As you can hear, Devon is as candid as can be. 864 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,520 He doesn't hold anything back. He gives his honest opinion. 865 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,720 Does it matter how these folks out there, they try to bully you 866 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,280 into not telling the truth? We don't play that, OK? 867 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,760 We do not play that. We're going to give it to you 868 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,880 straight. No chaser. 869 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960 And that's the way it is. Before we go there, Devon, we 870 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,520 have a very special birthday this week. 871 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,800 A brother down in New York, huge pro wrestling fan, very good 872 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,640 dude, beloved by so many people. By the name of Knowledge Allah, 873 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,840 what do you have to say to our brother? 874 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,760 Knowledge Allah. Knowledge Allah Assalamu Alaikum 875 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,120 my brother much peace be on to you. 876 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,920 Happy birthday many more and you know, stay blessed my brother. 877 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,760 You know, Knowledge is a big fan of yours because he has a little 878 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,320 bit of crush on on your friend Mercedes. 879 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,120 So. Tell Devon putting a good word 880 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,560 for me. I'm like, man, you better cut it 881 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,000 out. That girl, she would mess you 882 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:27,960 up. You better cut it out. 883 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:33,360 Listen, all right, dear, it's that time you, if you gave us 884 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,960 technically you gave us a word of the week earlier, which was 885 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,120 amazing, but but let's see if you got one more in you. 886 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,280 What's the word of the week this week? 887 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,360 Bro yeah sure, when God gives you a new beginning, do not 888 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,760 repeat old mistakes. Testify. 889 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,760 My brother. 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Most importantly folks do it 901 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:48,440 strictly for the culture. This is Tony Stevani. 902 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,120 And we're desperately out of time on Duke Love's athletes.