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Mr. Devon Dudley, how you doing there, Devon?
I'm good, not bad, not bad at all.
Tired is all hell, but good. I was going to say, man, you're
going to have to clone yourself because you got so much going
on, brother. I don't even know how you find
the time for it. Between the kids, the business,
the wrestling, it's, it's crazy, ma'am.
I saw a post on your Instagram testify Devon.
By the way, folks, if you're not following Devon on Instagram,
you need to some really, really cool stuff that he posts and
repost on there every single day.
But I saw a post about your detailing business.
So so tell me about this here because this is not something
we've ever revealed on the show before.
Devon Dudley has a car detailing business.
Yes, it's a mobile detailing business.
I went in the business with a friend of mine I was in high
school with and he came up with the idea of doing it.
He he loves cars, He he like, I like wrestling, he loves
detailing and doing all that stuff.
So what we find is a headache. He finds pleasure.
So he enjoys doing that. And he came up with the idea of
starting in Fort Lauderdale, making his way up up into
Orlando area with a with a mobile detailing business.
And I at first I was a little hesitant.
And then finally he convinced me on some things and I said, all
right, let's do it. We started off with using some
of the boys, Sasha Banks, Zack Ryder, you know, Charlotte
Flair, Marina in AW. Oh yeah.
Maria Shafir. Yeah.
Maria Shafir, Yep, Rhonda's good friend.
There's a lot of other people that forgive me.
Chelsea, Chelsea Green, we do her cars.
A lot of the guys and girls in in wrestling, we do their cars.
Oh God, I know I'm missing a lot more of the names and it'll come
to me. But we started doing it with the
boys and then all of a sudden we ventured out into, you know,
regular people and it really hit big time and caught
corporations, things like that. So we go as far as Miami all the
way up to Winter Park. Wow, wow.
So so if if I had a too much of a good time over the weekend and
my car is is is not not smelling the way that it needs to smell
because you know, we were having too much of a party and good
time. Would have you, you mean to tell
me that your detailing company will come to me if I'm in, if
I'm in the Miami area, let's say, and you all get me fixed
up, right? Oh, absolutely.
You won't be disappointed, that's for sure.
Wow, wow. See this folks, this man now.
Now what's the name of the of the company that diva?
It's 3D auto detailing and it's again, you can find it on
Instagram and as well as as Facebook.
You know, we do everything that you could imagine and there's no
problem big enough that we can't take care of.
Wow, that is awesome. That is awesome folks on
Instagram, it's three the letter D SO3D under score automotive,
the whole word there under score detailing.
So definitely check it out on Instagram.
Get more information taking a look at some of the the finished
product here, which is pretty cool.
And just like you said, Mercedes Monet, she is the second photo
on the Instagram page there and she's standing behind a shiny
vehicle there, looks brand new. So that's it.
You said the boss gave a call, so I had the report for duty.
There you go. I like that.
I like that man. You just don't stop.
You know, you got the detailing thing.
The cigars are going through the roof.
And in fact, you were recently at an event with some some
wonderful ladies giving some information about your your new
brand of cigars, right? Yeah, basically it was, there
was a, it was the first cigar lounge that I had ever gone to
here, over here in Melbourne. And it's called Executive
lounge. And there's a young lady that
works behind the bar that I became good friends with where
she came to me and asked me, she said, would you mind coming to
speak to a women's group and things like that?
And I was like, absolutely, I'll do that.
And, you know, tell them about my back story and how everything
has transpired for me in my life and it won't.
It worked out really, really well started, you know, talking
about the cigars and all of that.
Everybody was really eager and can't wait for it to come out.
And it was one of those things where, you know, I was happy to
have done the speaking engagement and I'll be doing a
lot more with them. You know, it's just one of those
things where you get the word out about the cigars and things
like that. It's all about connections.
And that's what you have to do. You have to make connections.
And that's what that's what we do.
That's what we do for sure. And and listen, you know, one of
the the best parts about doing this, this podcast series with
you here, Devon, is just the fact that we are building a
wonderful community. A very high percentage of women
listen to the show, which I'm very proud of and I appreciate
because that's something that even on the Duke Loves wrestling
show it, It's been like that for a number of years.
So the fact that we can do that here on Devon and the Duke is
really cool. So the fact that you are
partnering with a women's group in a in a cigar lounge where
women feel comfortable there and they can partake and enjoy
themselves and let loose the fact that they wanted Devon
Dudley to come and speak to them is so wonderful.
And that is a testament to the the great businessman and human
being that you are. So it's really, really cool.
Now I got to ask you the question though, for anyone who
hasn't tried it yet, how are the cigars?
You got this line of cigars with Notorious Cigar Company.
How are the deep on Dudley cigars?
Well, they're doing good. I just got a couple of samples
that I'm going to be bringing on the road with me.
I'll be in Manheim Comic Con or Manheim Khan, I should say, in
Pennsylvania this week. I'm going to bring a couple of
these samples with me and pretty much just giving them out to
some of the people that want to try to smoke cigars and let me
know how you like them. They're doing great and you
know, I'm loving everything about it.
The advertisement has been very, very good.
A Fairway Cigar has been really, really doing a great job in
promoting this and and really getting it out of there.
Just met with the guy from Columbia who came down who's
doing the cigars as well, wrapping it and doing all of
that. We basically had a great
conversation the other day and basically really, really excited
about how this is going to really, really, you know, be
launched and, and things like that.
So we're looking forward to everything that's going on right
now. Unbelievable, unbelievable, man.
I'm so proud of you. I mean, you, you got your bobble
heads, you got, you got your face on cups, you got cigars,
you got the car detailing business.
I mean, Jesus, Devon Dudley is in demand.
That's pretty. I mean, thank God.
How does it feel seriously, man, because you know, you're you're
somebody who your bump car is not filled yet.
You definitely still got some gas in the tank.
But you know, we, we're on the other side of that.
We're, we're winding down a little bit here.
The fact that in 2024, Devon Dudley is in this much demand
where people legitimately anything that you're associated
with, they want to be a part of and they want to check out and
they're interested in. How does it feel to to to still
matter to this degree so much in 2024?
I mean, it's great. I mean, you know, you talk about
33 years and and the brand is still going, still going strong.
I am very happy about that. And you know, it's through the
grace of God that you know that is happening.
So very happy, very content with that and I'm just grateful.
Well, I'm grateful too, because I, I've been Privy to some
information and I know that, you know, as good as 2024 has been,
2025 is going to be an even bigger year for the entire Devon
Dudley brand and everything associated with it.
So you know, brother, you just, you keep going, man, because
you're making it work. And, and more importantly,
you're showing others, you're showing your peers and you're
showing folks who are younger in the business and, and, and who
are coming up what's possible. All these years later, you could
still find ways to make money, diversify your portfolio and
remain relevant. You know what I mean it which
which is really, really cool. So again, kudos to you on that.
Speaking of relevancy, hot off the presses, folks, this is
legitimately one of the craziest things that you could ever hear.
And she didn't just do it once. This is the second time that
she's done it. Somehow, someway, the great
Linda McMahon has officially been named to a presidential
administration for the second time.
But instead of running the Small Business Administration, she
will now be heading up our Department of Education for the
United States of America. This is incredible news.
Linda McMahon, as we know, part of the great McMahon family that
created the WWF, what we call WWE now.
At one time she was actually president of the WWF.
She is someone who is well regarded and well respected for
being on top of things. She knows her stuff, You know,
whether we're talking in pro wrestling or whether we're
talking politically, just in general, Linda McMahon is
somebody that people have a tremendous amount of respect and
admiration for. In fact, I gotta be honest, I've
never heard anyone say anything negative about this woman.
And it's, it's interesting because not too many people can,
can maintain that level, that degree of respect across the
board like Linda has and quite frankly, like you have Devon.
So I definitely want to get your thoughts.
What are your thoughts on Linda McMahon being named Secretary of
Education for the United States of America?
I think it's great. Linda is a phenomenal lady.
Like you said, it's not a bad thing said about her.
She's got a great heart. She's got a great mind.
I mean, Vince was the, how do I say this?
Vince was the mind behind the storylines and things like that
of the WWE, but Linda was the brain of the corporation that
kept the deals going and things like that.
So Vince wouldn't have to worry about that and only concentrate
on building his brand from the inside.
So to have Linda doing that, I think it's tremendous.
You know, again, I love, I love Linda very much.
So in terms of, you know, the way she is conducts herself and
carries herself, she's always been spot on.
She's always been very kind, very witty, very just outgoing
with people. I mean, she's definitely the
type of person that you would want to do business with and
she's definitely someone that you could be proud to say that
the position that she has, she's going to do a great job at it.
So I love the fact that she's taking on that responsibility
and doing that in and I only the only person I think that would
be fit enough to do that would be Linda.
So congratulations on on that. I'm sure.
I'm going to have to say congratulations on all your
success moving forward because it's going to be exactly that
successful. Yeah, no question about it.
She she's going to continue to knock it out of the park because
that's been her track record. That's just who Linda McMahon
is. And you know, there are folks
out there and and I understand it.
I get it. As someone who has spent the
majority of their career working in some form of government, I
understand this, US versus them, this, this, you know, Bloods and
Crips, red and blue and all this other nonsense here that people
feed into. But folks, at the end of the
day, we're talking about human beings.
And as wrestling fans, the fact that somebody from this world,
whether whether you're a Hall of Famer like Devon Dudley who
worked closely with Linda, or whether you're just a lifelong
fan like me, to be able to see somebody from this world achieve
so much. I mean, legitimately, she's the
most successful person politically in the history of
pro wrestling, no question about it.
And it's fascinating to see, you know what I mean?
So it just goes to show this whole pro wrestling thing ain't
so bad and there's a lot you can make of it.
You just heard Devon talk about all his different businesses and
things like that. We're talking about Linda
McMahon, who again, this is her second appointment in the
presidential administration. How many people can say that?
So, you know, definitely kudos to her and, and, and kudos to
the entire wrestling industry, which gets taken even more
seriously because of people like Linda McMahon.
So that's that's a major win there.
Devon, you worked with Linda in the WWE.
So I'm going to pick your brain about this because people were
blown away when you talked about the fact that you produced
those, the 24/7 title segments with R Truth and Reggie and,
and, and, and what have you there.
So let's talk a little bit about Linda.
How was it working directly with her?
And, and do you have any specific stories that stick out
where it's like, man, this is really cool to experience this
with her? Well, you know, when the
Attitude Era was forming and it was, it was already getting
started and it was going the way it was.
You know, Linda was a big part of that.
And as the Dudley boys started to grow and started to be put
into more challenging roles, even with the McMahon family and
things like that, there was segments where the Dudley's did
things with Linda. I was very excited about it, you
know, and it really worked really, really well.
I wasn't, believe it or not, I was a little intimidated by it
because, you know, it was Linda McMahon, you know, coming from
the small world, I should say, of, of the wrestling Indies and
then going to ECW and during all of that time period, I knew who
Linda was and Linda was already on TV.
So it was kind of like, you know, seeing Vince for the first
time, you like an or. And it was the same thing I felt
about Linda because I had a lot of respect for Linda.
And like they said in the documentary, Linda didn't really
care to be in front of the camera, but when you ask her to
do it and given the opportunity, she did it and she did it well,
you know? And so to be able to work with
her in that forefront where we've done things promo wise in
the ring with her and things like that, it was really, really
cool to do that with her. And the respect she had for me
and Bubba was just, it was great.
It really was. There was one incident that I
remember where we weren't working together, but she was
very kind and considerate When we did the TLC match in Raleigh,
this was the this was the, the, the one that was considered the
first one because the one at WrestleMania was a ladder match.
This is the one where I was hanging 20 feet up or thirty,
however many feet I was up hanging with Jeff and I never,
we never told anybody about the bump that I was going to take
because we were scared that it was going to get scratched.
And I remember we were all saying that.
And so the bump where I'm hanging with Jeff and I, you
know, let go and hit the mat from how from how many many feet
up we were. I remember coming through the
back and Linda grabbed me and she said, are you OK?
And I said, yes, I'm fine, thank you.
I said, why? She was like, that was a hell of
a bump you took. Good God.
She was like, when I saw you take it, I cringed.
She was like, I could not believe you fell from that
height. And I, I played it off.
I was like, oh, it was nothing. And she laughed and she says,
OK. She said, you sure you're OK?
I said, Linda, I am fine, please don't worry about it, I am fine.
Meanwhile, I'm dying inside because that bump hurt.
But I wasn't going to let Linda know that, you know?
So that showed me a lot because she didn't have to pull me aside
and ask me. She could have just asked me one
time and walked away and that's it.
Or she didn't have to ask me at all.
But she did. And I always felt grateful for
that because it showed that she cared.
She could have easily turned her back, went to talk to Vince or
somebody else and didn't have to say anything to me in the back,
but she did. So I was very grateful for that.
And that's one of the memories that sticks out with me, with
Linda. That's deep.
And, and I'm noticing a, a
consistent pattern because ironically, the way that you
speak of Linda is similar to how you speak as Stephanie McMahon
and, and, and Triple H and Vince and what have you.
These folks are actually pretty good to you.
Yes, this was phenomenal. Again, I get what he's going up
against the the trial that's was postponed as I guess going to be
coming soon and all the alleged allegations and I say alleged
because he has not been proven guilty.
So alleged allegations, you know, it's to me he, he was
just, he was, he was great. He, he helped me with, you know,
he helped me buy this house I live in.
He helped put my kids through college.
I mean, he really did wonders for me.
And I'll always be grateful for that.
You know, the whole McMahon family was good to me.
I can't stress enough. And then, of course, you know, I
give praises to Triple H because it was Hunter that actually gave
the idea of me becoming a producer after Bubba and I had
left the company as talent. So, you know, I've gotten, I
don't have a bad thing to say about anybody in that company.
I, I, I, I, I'm very grateful for what they all did for me and
how they helped me out and how they protected me over the
years. It just when it just seemed like
it was over, somebody in that family always said, Nah, you got
another job to do, Stick around, kid, you ain't going nowhere.
And that was, it was great. You know, I remember.
Leaving the arena after my last match, I'm sorry, it was a
Monday night Roar. I was leaving the arena and I
bumped into Triple H and he goes, hey, Devon.
He was like, I think thank you for the opportunity.
I really appreciate it. And I'm I won't let you down.
And he goes, no, I know you won't.
Have you spoken to Stephanie? Have you seen Stephanie?
I said, no, I didn't. And I remember shaking her hand
and she shook my hand very firmly and she said, I'll see
you soon, right? And she gave me that look and I
just went, yes, you will, you know, I said yes, you will,
you'll see me soon. And I will never forget that.
She stopped mid conversation to who she was talking to just to
say that to me. And that just showed me a lot on
her behalf and I was very grateful for that.
So, you know, again, the whole McMahon family out I, I just
can't stress enough how grateful I am for them, for the
opportunities that was given to me.
And you know, the sky was the limit, and they let me reach
that sky many times. You know, we're we're
experiencing something very interesting in our society right
now here in the United States. And I can't speak for the rest
of the world. I know that a lot of things
mirror each other and what have you.
But here in the United States, we're we're experiencing
something interesting where the whole notion of thinking things
are one way because you're being told they're one way and then
finding out that it ain't really that way anymore.
It's interesting. And people are getting a, a cold
dose of reality as a result of that.
So not to get too political, but a lot of people, myself
included, assumed that our next president was going to be Kamala
Harris. And certainly there were polls
saying that and this and that saying that and looks like he
was going that direction. And it looked like the Democrats
were going to be back in style. And to everyone shocked, that is
not the case at all. It was basically a sweep by the
Republicans and, and Trump won decisively.
WWE Hall of Famer Donald Trump, he won decisively in that race.
He is a two time president now. Can't take it away from him.
It is what it is. And I think that whole situation
was a rebuke on our entire system because Donald Trump is
not a regular politician and, and no matter how you slice it,
it is what it is. He's something entirely
different. He's his own classification,
whether you like him or you don't like him.
I believe that what we're going to experience over the next
couple of years is a new awakening where people are going
to stop this nonsense of holding others to a standard that they
can't even hold themselves to. And here's what I mean by that.
Devon Dudley just relayed exactly why he feels the way
that he feels about the McMahon family, the house that he lives
in today, that he raised his kids in and what have you.
That family, by providing him with as many opportunities as
he's had in every single time Devon busted his butt, blood,
sweat, and tears. He, he, he bled, he sweat, and
he paid the price of a resting lifetime, as Rick Flair would
say, right? He earned it.
But that family provided those opportunities.
It would be embarrassing. It would be such a scumbag thing
to do to have the audacity to talk down on that family, given
the fact that you have been afforded the opportunity to earn
so much and to do so much and to accomplish far more in your
career than maybe you even thought you could, at least in
the beginning. So I want everybody who's
listening out there. It's OK those of us who who, who
can look at reality and be adults about things.
It's OK to come out and, and stretch and, and, and let the
world know you're here. We don't need to play these US
versus them games. And we don't need to pretend
like our lives haven't been what they've been.
You know, there is no reason for this man to talk down on that
family. Of course, you can have your
gripes, you could have your disagreements, but overall, they
treated them right, and that's the end of it.
So Devon, I I respect you even more for the fact that you're
telling the truth the way that you are, and you're not afraid
to do so. And you've been consistent
since. Since episode 1, you've been
consistent. You haven't allowed anyone to
bully you off of telling the truth.
No, they were good to me. They took care of me.
Yeah, there may have been create creative differences here.
Yeah. I felt like I could have done
more there. But overall, they were good to
me. I respect you for that.
Absolutely, Absolutely. And you know, one of the things
that bothered me the most and why I was so vocal about it was
because when I, and I said this before on the show, when I made
the comment about Stephanie, when I said I was infatuated
with her as opposed to what's the word not infatuated?
What it, what was I saying? I should have said I it'll come
to me later, but it wasn't the word infatuated.
Like I wasn't like they made it seem like I was in love with
her, like I wanted to be with her.
And so and I'm like, no, that wasn't the case at all.
Maybe it was the wrong choice of words, but that was not the case
at all. And they took it out of content.
And This is why I have a problem with some of the dirt sheet
riders, because they take things out of content that they
shouldn't say. I respect Stephanie very much.
You know, never once would I ever cross that line with her,
you know, and never once would I ever want to disrespect Triple
H. That's his wife, for crying out
loud, the mother of his kids. Why would I even want to attempt
to say something or do something like that is beyond me.
So why these sheet riders, dirt sheet riders decided they wanted
to print that stuff was crazy. That's one of the reasons why
whether you want to say I'm infatuated or admire, Admire
should have been the word about Stephanie McMahon because she's
been great to me. She didn't have to be.
You know, Stephanie could have turned up her nose and walked
the other way every time she saw me, but she didn't.
She always greeted me with open arms.
If my back was turned and I didn't see her come in, she
would make it known. And hey, Devon, how you doing?
I turn around. Oh, Steph, what's going on?
It was stuff like that. That's when you know somebody's
genuine let your back be turned and they still acknowledge you
when they don't have to. And she's done that.
I've seen her do that, not only with me, but with other people
she's done that with, you know, So it's one of those things
where, you know, I'll, I, like you said, I'll always be
grateful for them from Vince all the way down.
And you have every reason to be and that's the most important
thing. It's funny, I was, you know,
part of doing this whole podcasting thing is that you
have to build community. So I mean, I, I have a, a number
of social media accounts that are related to the shows and,
and I have a private wrestling group.
So other fans like almost like a focus group really, you know,
things that they feel are important or talk about what
have you. Those are the things that
generally make it on the show. And I also, you know, checking
on other groups just to see what people are talking about to stay
current. And I was very surprised that
different things, for instance, the Undertaker having Trump on
his podcast and people having a problem with that.
And you know, it, it, it boggles my mind.
Here you have a guy in Donald Trump who is a long time
investor in the WWE, who is in the WWE Hall of Fame, despite
the fact that he's this billionaire and, and he's this,
this mega personality, he's been a superstar pretty much our
entire lives, Devon. He's somebody who never had, I
don't think he necessarily needed wrestling.
So the fact that he always went out of his way to be associated
with wrestling and, and really has helped wrestling, it doesn't
make any sense for somebody like the Undertaker who's been around
as long as he has to not embrace somebody like Donald Trump.
Why wouldn't you? That's the guy, you know, that's
the guy who who's helped you make money.
And that's the guy who has helped keep the company that
kept the lights on for you and your family relevant in his own
way, using his star power to to add to that.
So it's, it's common sense. Forget about politics, folks.
It's common sense. If you can't show loyalty to the
people who've been there for you, I'm sorry.
I have a problem with that. And, and I can't, I don't trust
you, quite frankly. We don't have to agree
politically. And I, and I make no bones about
the fact that I don't necessarily agree with Trump
and, and those folks politically.
But I'm gonna tell you this, anyone who's supporting him, if
you have that kind of history with him, I don't have a problem
with that. I shrugged my shoulders and I
said that's life. You better support your homeboy
because he supported you. So even when we're talking about
the McMahon family and, and, and people can have their gripes and
some are legit and some are made-up, especially a lot of you
fans. You make up your own issues to
have with people. When you hear these wrestlers
tell these stories about how they were treated, especially in
a positive manner, don't don't turn up your nose and act like a
jerk because if you would turn your back on people who took
care of you, then what is what kind of person are you on the
inside? And I'll I'll, I'll leave it at
that. You know, you know when I get on
my box, Steve on folks got to watch out now, you know.
You know, that's one of the things that I always say.
You sit there and you take care of somebody.
You, you watch them, you nurture them, you make sure they're
good. And then all of a sudden, you
know, they get a little taste of glory and they turn their back
on you. And that's life.
And that's how things go. But you know, karma is a bitch
and it pays you back in one way, shape or form.
Don't start getting on your knees asking God why when you
already know the reason why. And a lot of people don't think
karma is real, but it is. It's very real.
And you know, I love the fact that it pays back people the way
it does. It doesn't come on your time, it
comes on its time. And everybody who has a bit of
cup to drink from will drink from that cup one day.
And when they do, they're going to have to realize it that they
made their own bed. So I could never, ever do that
to somebody that's helped feed me and my family.
Yeah, I mean, listen, like they say, man, you either stand for
something or you're going to fall for everything, you know,
and, and integrity matters, at least it does to me and I know
it. It matters to you.
So that's that's good stuff. We'll probably get cancelled for
that, that entire that entire segment there.
We'll probably get cancelled for but it'll be worth it, you know?
Unbeliev. Speaking of unbelievable, let's
talk a little unbelievable here. Tony Khan has a quote that is
trending and folks are are are writing entire think pieces
about it because it's so ridiculous.
So I want to get your thoughts on this here, Devon, Tony Kahn
says, I really think most of the top black wrestlers in the world
are now in AEW. So, so Tony Kahn, I, I guess he,
I don't know it did. Is he the savior now?
Is he Moses leaving, leading folks to the promised land?
Most he didn't say. Some he didn't say that.
You know, I feel we have the best he he said no.
Most of the top black wrestlers in the world are in AE W.
What are your thoughts on that, Devon?
Well, Tony Khan's done it again. That's all I got to say.
He's done it again. You know, you get a couple in
your company and now you think you got all of them.
He. Got a ball, he got a ball.
Somebody. Collected baseball cards.
Somebody's got to know when to press that mute button over
there. Brother, they are rewriting the
history every, every chance they get, and it's so ridiculous
because we have the receipts. Tony Khan had to be forced.
He had to be forced. He had to be shamed into hiring
more black male wrestlers in particular, right?
He had to be shamed into doing it.
And now suddenly he, he's Moses. You know what I mean?
He hey, let my people go. That's who he is.
He's a savior. It's ridiculous.
I'm seeing, I'm seeing reports from these these humanoids who
are claiming exorbitant contract amounts that there's no way that
they're true. And I think it's dangerous.
And I'm going to call it out on the show saying things like,
well, you know, Shelton Benjamin is making $2.5 million in AEW.
Now, let me tell you something. I hope that's true because I
respect and appreciate Shelton Benjamin.
I think that you, you are not going to find a finer wrestler
on the planet than Shelton Benjamin.
And I think that's a man who deserves, you know, all that
life can offer him and then some.
But there's no way on God's green earth he's making $2.5
million a year in any wrestling company.
And if that's just a straight contract, we're not talking
merchandise and incentives and anything else.
Straight money, he's making 2.5 million.
If he's making that kind of money, then what are you paying
Bobby Lashley? Are you paying him $20 million?
Like what? You know what I mean?
This guy's a multi time world champion or what have you.
Like, come on, what are we talking about right now, guys?
You know, but they, they plant these weird stories to try to
make it seem like Tony Khan is doing so much and it matters so
much. Well, I look at a little
differently. You're in a situation right now
where you're making these claims that you're, you're paying all
these black wrestlers so much money and that you got all the
black, the best black wrestlers and what have you.
And that coincides with the fact that you're having some of the
worst ratings, not some of you're having the worst ratings
and you're having the worst attendance in company history.
You better not Tony Kahn. You better not blame the
increase of black wrestlers on your roster as the reason why
your company's in the toilet. Because make no mistake about
it, brother, a lot of this stuff that you're claiming and that
you have your your surrogates claiming is all foolishness.
In reality, it's just your poor management that's killing that
company. You know what I mean?
So I, I look at it from a different perspective.
Again, the whole political thing where you, you got to look
beyond what's in front of you. You're not going to blame our
people for the fact that your company is, is, is, is screwing
up. Well, I gave them all this money
and I brought them in like you guys said.
And look, it hurt the company. Don't play that game, Tony.
And I'm on top of you. I'm listening to everything you
say because I'm waiting for the day where you, you talk that
nonsense. You know what I mean?
Because I can see where it's coming.
I don't know, Devon, am I, am I missing something here?
What do you think? Well, like I said, he's done it
again. Done.
It again. He's done it again.
You know, the one person I like to hear from from time to time,
I'll go on his podcast and listen is Jim Cornette.
Because he doesn't. He doesn't hold anything back
when it comes to AW or Tony Khan.
He just lets it RIP. And I find it pretty much
entertaining and amusing at times, you know, because a lot
of people are scared to say certain things or what have you.
But Cornett is not afraid to say anything at all.
And the guy who does the podcast with exit on, though, you know,
look, man, I don't even know what to say.
I, I just got to think, you know, he's got to, he's got to,
he's got to stop somewhere. You know, he's got to stop.
You know, these comments aren't going to get him anywhere.
And you know, I mean, yes, you have some great African American
talent in your company that are great.
The herd business has really are doing a really good job, you
know, and this and that. And I'm glad you got guys like
that in your company. But remember, there are so many
other African American stars that are out there in different
country and different companies that you don't have yet.
So you can't say most. I wouldn't even say most.
I'll be spectacle, say some. You know, I think again, you
have to be very wise and very conscientious on how you use the
words that you use sometimes because you know, it'll be taken
out of content, whether you mean it that way or not, it'll be
taken a different way. And you can't blame anybody for
getting on you for doing that. Absolutely.
And especially when you know,
guy like Tony who has a history of just being very disingenuous
about everything you, you marketed, that company is going
to be everything for everyone. You know, women are going to be
paid equally. And, and we're going to, we're
going to treat everybody. Everyone's going to have an
equal opportunity to do everything.
And you know, we love the LGBTQ plus folks and blah, blah, blah.
And then at every turn you see it always falls short and it
falls short by mile. And you start to ask yourself,
are you just saying things like a politician?
Really? Are you just telling me what I
want to hear but then doing the complete opposite?
And I'm sorry, There's a reason why the little bit of fans you
had have literally run for the hills, brother.
Because you just, you're not. You don't deliver on the things
that you promise. And it sucks.
And you can only treat the consumer a certain way for so
long before they just stop showing up.
You know what I mean? So just bear that in mind.
But I, I saw that comment and I see people, you know, trying to
make excuses and what have you. And it's like Tony Khan doesn't
need a translator. He said what he said.
He's speaking English, folks. He said what he said.
So we can, we can hold him accountable for what comes out
of his mouth. And that's that.
You know, Devon, the biggest thing that happened over the
past, you know, since we we last recorded with each other is the
Mike Tyson, Jake Paul match up. There was boxing match on
Netflix. First time Netflix ever had a
big event like that and it actually crashed Netflix.
They were having streaming issues because so many people
were were logging in to watch this spectacle.
In the end, you know, Jake Paul won the match, unanimous
decision, 8 rounds, 2 minute rounds.
So they were quick, but 8 rounds and I, I got to tell you, man,
just like you, Devon, I, I grew up watching Mike Tyson.
I'm fortunate enough to have seen all of his fights on
pay-per-view and, and what have you.
Whatever that was in that ring, that wasn't Mike Tyson, not
because he couldn't do it. The guy in the ring couldn't do
it, but it's because the guy in the ring refused to do it.
And you know, there's a lot of speculation.
He made more money. As the fight went on, you know,
you, you got paid more if you, if you made it to the next
round, to the next round, to the next round.
So, you know, Mike Tyson made over $20 million on that one
fight, which congratulations to him and his family.
Can't blame the guy for that. Jake Paul made over $40 million.
Wow, that kid knows how to make money.
So congratulations to him too. But that was a slap in the face
for the sport of boxing in my opinion.
And I, you can't, you couldn't convince me that Mike Tyson
can't beat the hell out of Jake Paul because we saw flashes
there and Mike was quick as it as it as a cat.
So it's not like he couldn't do it.
And the boy couldn't touch me if Mike didn't want him to touch.
So that was a fix in my opinion. You saw the fight.
What did you think, Devon? I definitely felt the fix was
in. You know, you go from training,
you go from watching Mike the way he was training on his
movements and things like that. You saw that the first thirty,
maybe 40 seconds of the first round with Mike.
But then after that, it just stopped.
And there's no way you could sit there and tell me that the
training that he was doing that we all saw leading up to that
fight was not real. And there were certain instincts
on social media where they show you where there was an
opportunity where Mike could have hit him and he didn't.
And, you know, 58 years old, I'm not going to buy that.
He's not that wit enough. Doesn't that witty enough to
know when to take the opportunity to, you know, do do
that to somebody. I just, I just can't buy it.
I the way that fight was in the way it looked, I I cannot buy
that. That was the Mike Tyson.
We saw a training up leading up to that fight and all of that.
It was a totally different Mike Tyson.
And you could tell the minute he walked out into that arena that
he it wasn't the Mike of old. And when I say old, like even
during the press conferences and things like that, you saw Mike
the way he was. He was upbeat.
He was gone. You didn't see that walking to
the ring at all. You saw a Mike Tyson that was
already defeated before he even got in that ring.
And I just don't believe that that was Mike had a conversation
with Booker T Booker T actually thinks that it was legit.
And even though, you know, I can't out talk Booker and I'm
not going to try. But I think Booker knows a
little bit more about boxing than me.
But I'm sorry, there's no way in hell you can make me believe
that that that fight was not fixed.
I I cannot believe that. There's no way after watching,
like I said, him training, getting ready for this fight and
then to see what I saw. I don't buy it.
I mean, we saw Mike's footwork in training and even in the
match we saw Mike's footwork. So you know that come on guys
like this, this is a man holding and, and, and he never put his
power on that boy. Like you said, we saw flashes
here and there, but then Mike would tag him and then he would
make this face and bite his gloves and not follow up after
he would tag him. And it's like he was doing
everything in his power not to hurt that young man.
And what I saw in that match, we've seen it time and time
again with with Logan Paul, he's not a boxer.
So I I congratulate him on being smart enough to understand how
to promote a fight and how to get people to spend money to
watch whatever he's doing in the ring.
But he's not a boxer. And that's why he's not going in
the ring for the most. This is the first real boxer he
was in the ring with. And you know, Mike, even at his
age, I think he could destroy this kid.
But again, $20 million, what would you do for $20 million?
As much as Mike Tyson has given to sports and to pop culture and
as much has been taken away from Mike Tyson, do I blame him?
No. Nonetheless, I just don't like
it. I don't like it.
I grew up watching Mike Tyson. I know what he's capable of and
watching, I've seen all of Jake Paul's fights now and, and, and
seeing what he can do. This guy is he's the poorest
excuse for a boxer I've ever seen.
Like it's just embarrassing that this guy calls himself a boxer
because I don't see improvement on any level from anything that
he does. And you could even I don't even
think he was. I feel like he might have been
giving his best effort, which is scary because at his age and at
Mike's age and it is over the hill as Mike is, Jake Paul
should have knocked him out if he was a boxer.
And I don't necessarily think that Mike Tyson could beat the
top boxers in the world right now.
I'm not going to go that far because I don't I don't think
that's true. I think they would dust him off
pretty, pretty well. Deontay Wilder and some of these
guys, they would, they would hurt Mike, but Jake Paul could
never hurt Mike. So it's just embarrassing that
we even had to to mention them in the same sentence.
It's it's kind of silly, but hey, get your money.
Well, it's, it seems like with all the talk that's going on,
you might see a Jake Paul, Mike Tyson too.
And if that's the case, I don't think Mike will follow the
script. Listen, he at this point, you,
you don't make 20 million, you might make another 20-30 million
on the second go round. Just knock the boy out, please.
Can, can, can your last fight be you knocking some punk out?
I would love it. You know what I mean?
Come on, Mike, please, Mike, just just give him, give him the
full shebang, please. You know, again, you might see
it if there is a 2, but I don't know, I don't think there will
be a 2. Well, well, let me ask you this,
Devon. If if I pay you $20 million,
will you let me beat you in a match?
Brother, I'll lay down in a heartbeat.
I'm like, excuse me, you're not done whooping my ass.
Please no harder, damn it. Harder, I said.
Listen, wait, remember the finger poker doom with with with
Kevin Nash and and and old Kogan with old Kogan?
What did he? He poked him with his finger and
Nash laid down for him and and old and beat him for the batch.
It'll be one of those situations, right?
I'm laying my ass down so fast you couldn't get to your knees
fast enough to count 123 with me.
We're just cutting up this week, boy.
We're just cutting up, Devon. Let everybody know what's the
best way they can reach you out there, brother.
Yeah, sure. So you can reach me on Instagram
at Testify Devon and also Twitter Testify Devon, inbox me,
do all of that good stuff. Love to hear from you, love to
talk to you. And again, don't forget I got
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If you're in the Florida area, give us a call.
All the information is on the Instagram feed.
Just give us a call. We'll come detail your car.
You have the Devon Dudley Academy right in Winter Park,
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So come on down. If you want to take your
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You can get that on Devon. You can get that on Devon Dudley
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So hit us up and let us know if you're ready to become that next
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be spread out throughout the United States and maybe even
different countries. Well, I'll definitely let you
know when that's coming out, but you can hit me up on Instagram
to find out if that's what you would want.
We can send them to you. So let us know.
And also, you know, we also have just a YouTube channel coming
out. We've already did 5 episodes of
it, so that's going to be coming up very shortly.
I will let you guys know how that's going to work and when
it's coming on and when you can catch it on YouTube.
So you know, Maven can't be the only one that's out there doing
this stuff. I know right?
Maven don't crack the code man on how to do this YouTube thing.
So the fact that the Devon Dudley reality show, that's what
I'm calling it for now, the fact that that's on the horizon is,
is so cool. Again, 2024 has been awesome.
2025 is going to be even bigger for the Devon Dudley brand for
sure. Folks is always Duke loves
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wrestling@gmail.com. Let me know what you think of
the show, Any questions that you have.
As you can hear, Devon is as candid as can be.
He doesn't hold anything back. He gives his honest opinion.
Does it matter how these folks out there, they try to bully you
into not telling the truth? We don't play that, OK?
We do not play that. We're going to give it to you
straight. No chaser.
And that's the way it is. Before we go there, Devon, we
have a very special birthday this week.
A brother down in New York, huge pro wrestling fan, very good
dude, beloved by so many people. By the name of Knowledge Allah,
what do you have to say to our brother?
Knowledge Allah. Knowledge Allah Assalamu Alaikum
my brother much peace be on to you.
Happy birthday many more and you know, stay blessed my brother.
You know, Knowledge is a big fan of yours because he has a little
bit of crush on on your friend Mercedes.
So. Tell Devon putting a good word
for me. I'm like, man, you better cut it
out. That girl, she would mess you
up. You better cut it out.
Listen, all right, dear, it's that time you, if you gave us
technically you gave us a word of the week earlier, which was
amazing, but but let's see if you got one more in you.
What's the word of the week this week?
Bro yeah sure, when God gives you a new beginning, do not
repeat old mistakes. Testify.
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