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Brothers and sisters, welcome 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,920 back to another wonderful edition of the Devon and the 24 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Duke Show. It's a limited podcast series 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,400 hosted by your main man. Duke loves wrestling and of 26 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,680 course the Hall of Famer, the five time Hall of Famer himself, 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Mr. Devon Dudley. How you doing there Devon? 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,720 I'm good. How you doing buddy? 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,840 I'm doing fantastic, man. I'll tell you. 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Thank goodness we had a nice holiday weekend, you know, Labor 31 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Day and all that good stuff there because, man, I needed 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,000 some rest, man, I needed some rest. 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:18,200 I needed some BBQ ribs. I I just needed an extra day to 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,800 just chill out, you know? How did your weekend go there? 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Devon IT. Went great. 36 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,400 I spent it all day with my kids. I mean, we had a blast and we 37 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,800 went to the jump house. We went grocery shopping with 38 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,600 all three of my kids, the infant who was who was eight months, my 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 4 year old and five and six year old. 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Good God. But it was fun. 41 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:43,200 I'm telling you this, this this guy right here, you know, daddy 42 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,120 daycare, so to speak, Devon Dudley. 43 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,440 He brings the kids everywhere, always with the kids. 44 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Sometimes you hear the kids in the background of the show. 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,480 It's it's really special. It's really special it Devon's a 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,440 family man and we appreciate all you fans out there reach out, 47 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,320 talk about how much you enjoy hearing about the family man. 48 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Devon Dudley, for sure. That's awesome stuff there. 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,960 And Speaking of awesome stuff, Ottawa Comic Con, it's time. 50 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Don't forget Devon Dudley's going to be there September 7th 51 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 and 8th for the Ottawa Comic Con. 52 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:18,680 He's bringing some great merchandise for all of you 53 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 wonderful fans out there. So definitely make sure you get 54 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,080 your tickets. Bring the whole family, everyone 55 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,760 from grandma to the babies and everyone in between. 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,440 Devon is ready to see you up in Ottawa. 57 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Ain't that right, big man? Absolutely. 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,280 I'm ready to kiss some babies, maybe even run for president or 59 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,280 Prime Minister. They don't have a president up 60 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,440 there, but they have a Prime Minister. 61 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Maybe I'll run for that. Well, listen, we, we, we, you 62 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 could become the, the, the 1st president up there. 63 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Maybe, maybe they'll have to make a position for you. 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,680 You never know. You know what I mean? 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Hey, you never know. But certainly our fans up in 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,200 Canada, especially Ottawa, make sure you come out and see Devon 67 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Dudley. Absolutely. 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Please come on down. Love to meet all of the fans 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,880 that basically showed their support over the years. 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,880 And, you know, let's just testify. 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,400 I love it. Now, folks, unfortunately, and I 72 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,360 don't know, this is becoming a theme, unfortunately here, 73 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,079 Devon, week after week, we have lost a few other folks in the 74 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,519 pro wrestling fraternity. First and foremost, you know, 75 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:25,160 rest in peace and condolences to the loved ones of Sonny King. 76 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,960 Sonny King was the boxer turned pro wrestler. 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:35,920 He won the WWWF tag team championship with Chief J 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,040 Strongbow. So this is a man who, you know, 79 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:43,640 he, he, he was a pioneer in his own right, one of the, I think 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,960 he might have been the first black wrestler to win a www.f 81 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,400 championship. So that's a pretty big deal 82 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,840 there. And, you know, certainly rest in 83 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,560 peace, Mr. Sonny King. Any thoughts on that there, 84 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Devon? Well, you know, for somebody to 85 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,200 make the transition from boxing to pro wrestling, that's huge. 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,200 And you know, to be African American, especially during that 87 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,880 time, is even bigger. You know, I just want to say 88 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,160 thank you to Sonny for all his accomplishments and everything 89 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 that he's done for this business, and not only the 90 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,640 business, but African Americans around the world setting the 91 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,760 stage for us to be able to do what we've done and what we 92 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,360 still do in the middle of that ring. 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,440 I don't think we pay homage enough to people like him that 94 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,000 have set the way for us to be able to go out there and to do 95 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,840 what we do best and that's entertain. 96 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,160 My condolences go out to him and his family and the time and 97 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,440 needs. And God bless you, Sonny, for 98 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,320 everything you've done. I didn't really think about it 99 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:54,840 until now, Devon, but man, this guy walked so you could run. 100 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,880 You know, if if Sonny King is the first black person to hold 101 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,720 the championship in the WWWF and and his championship was A tag 102 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,640 team championship. We Fast forward to your career 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,280 and it's like, wow, that's amazing, man. 104 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,440 That's that's that's amazing right there. 105 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,280 Wow. OK, another sad thing to report 106 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:22,760 there, folks. We we lost Sid Vicious AKA 107 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,640 psycho Sid, AKA Sid Justice Sid Udi. 108 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,360 He passed away according to his son, it was cancer complications 109 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,400 with cancer. So you know, we got it directly 110 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,040 from the family on that front there the cause of death. 111 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,600 But man, Sid, definitely heartbreaking to hear that one 112 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,920 of the most popular wrestlers of the past 40 years legitimately 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,600 and a guy who pretty much worked on top everywhere he's been. 114 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Devon, you knew Sid, you, you wrestled against Sid. 115 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,520 And including that match where the Dudley Boys took on Spike 116 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Dudley and Sid at the ECW Living Dangerously 1999. 117 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,920 What are your thoughts on Sid? You know, Sid scared me. 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,360 He he actually scared me. He was a big, large man at the 119 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,080 height of his career. And to see him come into the ECW 120 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,680 locker room, number one, I was a big fan of his. 121 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,440 You know, I watched him, you know, in my teenage years, going 122 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,960 into junior high and high school and just being fascinated at 123 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,440 some of the things he could do as a big man really, really made 124 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:40,160 me admire his work in the ring. You know, Sid was, he was a 125 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,800 gentle giant. He really was. 126 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,200 But when that camera came on, he was something, He turned it on. 127 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,440 And I just remember him coming down the aisle way in Asbury 128 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Park, NJ, getting ready to step in the ring with me and Bubba. 129 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,560 And I'm just looking at this huge mass of man that is coming 130 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 down the aisle way. And I'm like, good God, this man 131 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,120 is huge, bigger than life, and probably one of the most 132 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,400 gentlest souls I think I've ever been in the ring with. 133 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,040 I was very honored to be in there with him. 134 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,680 He really took care of Bubba, myself and you know, we made 135 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,920 beautiful music together, although he beat the hell out of 136 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,600 us, but still we made beautiful music together. 137 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 And he's going to be missed very, very much so. 138 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 His contributions to this business was like no other. 139 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Thank you, Sid, for everything that you did for this business 140 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,200 and for us and for entertaining us the way you did. 141 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,039 There will only be one Sid Vicious, one Sid Justice, and 142 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,720 it'll just he'll never be duplicated. 143 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,040 For sure, it'll never be duplicated. 144 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,240 And and it's interesting, you know, for a guy like Sid, 145 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,880 intimidation was such an important aspect of the aura. 146 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,640 You know, he's one of the few people that just walking to the 147 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,960 ring, you already knew that it was going to be a rough night. 148 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,160 There was only one other guy that did that to me and that was 149 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:12,160 the warlord. I mean, that man was huge, 150 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,240 bigger than life. I mean, it was incredible on how 151 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,600 big these guys were. And again, this was the time of 152 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,000 the land of the giants, you know? 153 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:28,440 And so for me to be able to bend in the rain with guys like that 154 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,400 was just an honor and a privilege. 155 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:32,840 And I was just so happy to be a part of that. 156 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Even though they were on their last hurrah on their way out, I 157 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:43,440 was just very happy to be a part of some sort of working with 158 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,080 them in the ring in that capacity. 159 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,920 I mean, again, huge, just bigger than life. 160 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,200 And you know, my hat goes out to them. 161 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,360 I can't express enough. You know, that's interesting. 162 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,400 So you, you were in the ring with the warlord. 163 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,160 Was it was it warlord and barbarian or or who was the 164 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,520 warlord teaming with? It was just the warlord. 165 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,000 It was like, it was like an indie guy. 166 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,680 Gotcha. Yeah. 167 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,680 This wasn't in a major promotion, you know, This was, 168 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,480 you know, an indie promotion. But I was happy to be able to do 169 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,680 that with him. That's wild, man. 170 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:19,760 You talk about a big dude. I mean, the Warlord, my 171 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,880 goodness, what a monster he was. You know, he could have done 172 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,880 anything that he wanted to do and there was nothing anybody 173 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,760 else could do about it. So nothing, man. 174 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,240 It's it's interesting tag team wrestling when we start talking 175 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,480 about the greats. I mean, obviously the Dudley 176 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Boys, you know, ARN and, and Tully, the Midnight Express, you 177 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,080 know, but even going through guys like the, the Powers of 178 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Pain and, and the Heart Foundation and Demolition and 179 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,440 the Steiner Brothers, you know, we've had so many great tag 180 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,560 teams through the years. But it seems like there's been a 181 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:02,560 period over the last decade where tag team wrestling has 182 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:07,120 been less emphasized overall. What are your thoughts on that, 183 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,160 Devon? I mean for for pro wrestling 184 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,800 promotion, do you feel that tag team wrestling can still draw in 185 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,840 2024 and beyond? Well, you have to understand 186 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,280 during the Hogan and Andre era, you had teams like the Heart 187 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Foundation, the British Bulldogs. 188 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,520 You know, you had those teams that the Islanders, the list 189 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,880 goes on, the Killer Bees, the list goes on and on. 190 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Demolition, trying to make sure I don't omit anybody, but you 191 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:40,120 had so many teams that was so special back then that it made 192 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,560 tag team wrestling what it was for that time. 193 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,760 And even during the Attitude Era, you know, the Dudley's 194 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,960 edging Christian, the Hardy Boys, too cool. 195 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,240 The, you know, Undertaker and Kane, even though they were 196 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,360 singles and they got put together, they were still a 197 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,160 force to be reckoned with. Lorries and stunts, I put them 198 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,960 in the same category as well. You know, again, balls and axle, 199 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,320 you know, Tanaka in balls, Spike in balls, Sandman and Dreamer. 200 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,800 I mean, this goes on and on. You had these bigger than life 201 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,960 personalities that stood out, which is what made tag team 202 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,960 wrestling so special because both parties in that team had 203 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,680 such a unique presence that it was kind of hard to over shout 204 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,520 to to to out what's the word I'm looking for? 205 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:36,040 It was kind of hard not to give them they're they're just do. 206 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,080 These guys were large and in charge. 207 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,240 They knew what they were doing. They were seasoned and they knew 208 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,160 how to work the people. They knew how to work the crowd. 209 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,520 They knew how to entertain. And that's what you need 210 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,920 nowadays. You need teams like that that I 211 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,920 just mentioned that will be able to go out there and to captivate 212 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,240 an audience and make you believe and invest in what they're 213 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,160 doing. That's the biggest thing. 214 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,440 There's room in the industry for variation from top to bottom, 215 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,920 including in tag team division. So you could have your giants, 216 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,560 you can have your smaller guys, you can have in between, but 217 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:12,600 that that variety matters. And and I agree. 218 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,080 I mean, as a fan who, you know, I'm a consumer of this stuff. 219 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,280 I spend money and time to consume this stuff. 220 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:23,720 I want to see solid tag team wrestling like the stuff I grew 221 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,120 up on. Absolutely. 222 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,000 So if you give me two great teams, I remember when the Usos 223 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,560 and The New Day were having their feuds, then the Dudley 224 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:36,560 Boys come back to the WWE and you guys get inserted in there. 225 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:40,480 You know the Wyatts were doing their thing and and mixed in 226 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,920 there as well. Tag team wrestling can work if 227 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,400 you give us great teams, but real teams, people who really 228 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,920 are a team that paired up together, not just two singles 229 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,080 wrestlers who are going to be together temporarily. 230 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Give me teams, man, and I will definitely pay attention. 231 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,960 So you know, well said. They're literally the Hall of 232 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,520 Famer, one of the greatest tag team wrestlers of all time. 233 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Devon Dudley for sure. But this past weekend, Devon, we 234 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,680 had two PL. ES NXT no Mercy, which was 235 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:15,680 Sunday and WWE bash at the at Berlin, which was on Saturday. 236 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:16,760 So I'm going to work backwards here. 237 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,440 I'm going to start with NXT because I'm going to tell you 238 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:28,000 right now, this young lady, Jada Parker, in my opinion, she pound 239 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,240 for pound is, is, is probably one of the best young prospects 240 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,680 to come around in the entire industry over the past five 241 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,240 years. I mean, this young lady is in 242 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,040 great shape. She has incredible presence. 243 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,320 When she walks out to the ring, she cuts a promo that's better 244 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,440 than 90% of the people out there with experience. 245 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,920 And she's only been wrestling for less than two years. 246 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,560 So it's not and she and she comes from the WWE system. 247 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,560 She's not some, some indie kid, literally she's one of the NIL 248 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,360 prospects because she was a soccer player before WWE, but 249 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,360 she battled Roxanne Perez, who Roxanne is doing a very good job 250 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,400 as NXT Women's Champion, very credible, knows what she's doing 251 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,880 in the ring, gets it done. This Jada Parker, although she 252 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,320 lost the match, in my opinion, she was made a star in this 253 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,080 match because she she looked like she could have won. 254 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,640 What are your thoughts on Jada Parker and, and really just her 255 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,560 and Roxanne in general, you know? 256 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Again, the one thing I like about WWE is that they're always 257 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,640 fishing for new and younger talent. 258 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,360 You know, back in the day, they would just put their emphasis on 259 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,640 the older talent and stay there for years. 260 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,080 And then all of a sudden when the younger talent, I mean when 261 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,960 the older talent couldn't do it no more, then they were stuck. 262 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,560 They didn't know how to produce the new talent. 263 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,360 WWE is doing a great job in that and it shows with her. 264 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,440 And you know, she's very good on the mic. 265 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,760 She's strong, she's athletic, she's holding her own and she's 266 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,440 only going to get better. The NXT brand, when I was there, 267 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,520 I loved it and I praised it just because I knew that farm system 268 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,560 really worked. It was something that really 269 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,040 generated, and the sad part about it is I don't think Vince 270 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:26,760 really knew how to understand what Hunter was doing down there 271 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,920 because there were so many times where there were people that 272 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,240 should have been brought up a long time ago in that system 273 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,880 that weren't. And now, you know, Hunter and 274 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Sean and Matt Bloom are doing great with picking the time and 275 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,320 knowing when talent is ready to come up to the main roster. 276 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,000 And it's working. I don't think they really had 277 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,640 any bad prospects that have come up that hasn't really done 278 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,160 something now. Yeah, they might be teams that 279 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,040 are on the back, back burner for now, but they're trying to find 280 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,960 something for them to do. And I say that because I've been 281 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,480 in the backstage area and I know how that works. 282 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,000 So that is something that I'm sure that they are trying to 283 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,839 figure out what those that they have brought up and maybe 284 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:20,480 they're not doing that much with, but eventually they will. 285 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,000 And that's the thing. So I think people got to be 286 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,240 patient and understanding and know that just because you think 287 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,640 you have the answer doesn't necessarily mean that that's the 288 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,720 right answer. And the WWE is doing everything 289 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,520 that they're doing everything right. 290 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,960 You know, look at the attendance, look at the ratings, 291 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,520 look at everything. Are there going to be some 292 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,120 people that's not going to like Hunter's regime or like what 293 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:49,400 he's doing? Absolutely. 294 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,640 Just like there was a lot of people that didn't like Vince's 295 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,280 regime. Somebody is not going to be 296 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,960 liked all the time, and there are a lot of people that do like 297 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,440 him. So apparently Hunter's doing 298 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,920 something right. You're going to have that 299 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,000 percentage, and it's a very small percentage that doesn't 300 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,120 like what Hunter's doing. But that's OK. 301 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,840 Business still has to go on. And trust me when I say it. 302 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,440 After being in TNA, you know, when Jeff Jarrett stepped down 303 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,880 for a little bit because of his personal problems and Dixie 304 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,200 Carter took over, it was a sad day in TNA, in my opinion, 305 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,240 because Dixie wasn't a wrestling mind. 306 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,240 She didn't know how to think like you should think, you know, 307 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,480 when you're running a business like she was running, it was 308 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,080 totally different and no one was there to tell her differently. 309 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,520 And I just felt like the company went downhill when that 310 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,520 happened. And by the time Jeff Jarrett 311 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,440 came back and was able to do what he had to do, I thought it 312 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:51,520 was too late. And that part of TNA fell until, 313 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,640 you know, Scott the Moore came in, changed the whole landscape 314 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,760 of everything and really brought TNA and put them back on the map 315 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,680 because we thought the final nail was in the coffin for a 316 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,520 long time. And then they just, they just 317 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,000 came out of nowhere and we renovated themselves. 318 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,160 So good for them. But again, you know, people got 319 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,880 to understand, they got to wait and be patient. 320 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,560 So Hunter's doing the right thing with what he's doing in 321 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,560 NXT. And again, people would say what 322 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,720 they want. I'm not kissing his ass or, you 323 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040 know, trying to look for a job. I'm just saying what the truth 324 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,000 is. I've been backstage. 325 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,800 I know how it works and I know what they say. 326 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,240 And a lot of times people react when they shouldn't react about 327 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,080 certain things. So it's like, keep quiet and let 328 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 the people who are in the position do what they do best 329 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,840 and you will be happy eventually in the long run. 330 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,520 And if you're not, you just want those percentage that people 331 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,200 that that that just never going to be happy. 332 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,120 Top to bottom NXT, they're just they're getting it done. 333 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,760 People are tuning in, they are making money at their live 334 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,400 events. There's no two ways about that. 335 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:00,240 They they have the move over that's that's coming where they 336 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,600 got that big contract to now be on CW. 337 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,360 So it's just it. Man, I said. 338 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:08,360 All this money being mean, I need to get back over there. 339 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:17,200 Damn, damn. Listen, listen, you better be 340 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,720 careful, man. They might throw you back in the 341 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,760 ring. Yeah, I said go back behind the 342 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,240 stage. Ain't ain't crazy enough to get 343 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:29,680 back in the ring. Shout out to NXT, the whole team 344 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,160 out there. Listen, HPK, come on now. 345 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,960 Devon Dudley, he's ready to help you, you know, guide some of 346 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,960 those young minds, so to speak, for sure. 347 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,360 It's good stuff there. Hey, HPK is like, get the hell 348 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:48,280 out of here, Devon. So so that was no mercy. 349 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,120 I mean, that was definitely my favorite match of the card. 350 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,960 Overall, the card was was entertaining. 351 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,400 It was fun to see, but that match in particular was just 352 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,920 tremendous and I and I won't be surprised if we see that main 353 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,840 eventing an episode of Smack Down or Raw, even main eventing 354 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,600 pay per views of the not too distant future. 355 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,880 That's how great a solid both of those young ladies are. 356 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Good stuff. Now we had Bash and Berlin, 357 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,320 which happened on Saturday and keep in mind because of the time 358 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,240 difference, it was 1:00 PM Eastern Standard Time that it 359 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,160 kicked off there. Cody Rhodes and and Kevin Owens, 360 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,200 they had their match to start the night off, which was great. 361 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Cody ended up coming out on top, of course, but I want to get 362 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,120 your take on this here, Devon. We we had Gunther and and Randy 363 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:37,440 Orton. They were the main event and 364 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,040 Gunther ends up winning the championship. 365 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,800 I mean, who ends up retaining the championship against Orton. 366 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,720 So Orton doesn't get his, you know, his next victory. 367 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,360 You know, if he has any any chance of taking on Ric Flair's 368 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:55,840 record of 16 time world champion or even surpassing it. 369 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,320 It didn't happen this go round. What are your thoughts on on 370 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Gunther being the champion over there on raw? 371 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,200 Well, I. Love it. 372 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:11,000 You know, Gunther is definitely the future of the WWE and he has 373 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,400 proven that over and over again. You know, Randy Orton is called 374 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,720 passing the torch and sometimes you got to do that. 375 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,520 I was very surprised about them being the main event, but they 376 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480 took a chance and it and it and it worked. 377 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,880 It really didn't work because I was for sure that Cody was going 378 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,760 to be the main event, him and Kevin, but it wasn't. 379 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,480 And I was very happy to see that them making that decision to do 380 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,280 that really paid off for them because that match between 381 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,040 Gunter and Randy was very, very good. 382 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,320 And I was happy to see that Randy, you know, was able to, 383 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,920 you know, pass the torch to Gunter. 384 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,360 And the handshake at the end of it was really, really cool. 385 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,280 I really, really liked it in terms of in terms of Cody, Rose 386 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,600 and Kevin, I mean, it was great. They weren't, they were having 387 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,200 an excellent match. They weren't killing each other. 388 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240 They weren't overdoing it. They were having a great, solid 389 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,000 match and the fans were chanting. 390 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 This is awesome. I mean, it was great to see guys 391 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,880 like that, you know, take the basic and make it mean something 392 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,600 without having to kill themselves. 393 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 And yet the fans appreciated it. I thought that was great. 394 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Absolutely, absolutely. And the card itself was great. 395 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,880 I mean, of course Jade and Bianca Bellaire, they ended up 396 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080 getting the tag team titles back. 397 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Congratulations to them. They defeated Alba Fire and Isle 398 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,840 of Dawn. Listen, I like that, that of 399 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,920 course Jade and Bianca, they're fantastic. 400 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,760 And we know that eventually those two ladies will probably 401 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,320 end up feuding with each other. But that Alba Fire and that Isle 402 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,680 of Dawn, I like those two young ladies, man. 403 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,320 What do you think of that tag team? 404 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,080 I mean, they were great. I remember when they went to NXT 405 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,800 and they were really trying to find a niche and they finally 406 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,720 found it. I think they're great together. 407 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,080 I think they're really going to see a lot more from them and the 408 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,880 weeks and months to come, and I'm just looking forward to it. 409 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,680 Again, this is all stuff that Triple H has created and he's 410 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,840 done, and I think it's an excellent thing that now you're 411 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,600 seeing what he has created, which has been phenomenal. 412 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,560 My hat again goes off The Hunter and the WWENXT, Shawn Michaels 413 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,200 and Matt Bloom. You know, I mean, great job and 414 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,120 just a hell of a pay-per-view top to bottom. 415 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,440 I'm still watching it. I have not watched it fully, but 416 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,760 I'm still watching it. And some of the matches that 417 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,760 we're talking about, I have seen it and that's why I'm able to 418 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,960 talk about them. But again, fantastic show and I 419 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,800 think I got like two or three more matches left. 420 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,480 And from what? Again, the beginning from the 421 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,840 beginning, from what I saw to the to the from what I saw from 422 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,160 the beginning to where I'm at now. 423 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,720 Excellent pay-per-view. Absolutely, absolutely. 424 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,760 I I do want to give it an honorable mention to CM Punk and 425 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,160 Drew McIntyre. They they had their strap match 426 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:11,960 and beyond the match itself, the feud where they've introduced 427 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,400 this bracelet, this fan brick made bracelet that was given the 428 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Punk and that Punk wears and McIntyre taking it from Punk and 429 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,880 then they're fighting over it and Punk wants to get his 430 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,600 bracelet back and all that good stuff. 431 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,640 It is so amazing. And I want to get your take on 432 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600 this, Devon, because for me as a fan, I've never been a wrestler. 433 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,600 I'm never going to be a wrestler. 434 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,200 I have no desire. I don't want to be put to a 435 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,960 table. But I love watching it and I 436 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,480 love seeing you do it. That's great. 437 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:45,480 But the whole notion that you can get me interested in a feud 438 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,160 about a bracelet, a literally something that probably cost 439 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,800 less than 10 to put together, right? 440 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:58,480 You can get me into a feud about who is going to have that 441 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,960 bracelet and and McIntyre taunting Punk and taking the fan 442 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,400 made bracelet from something that Punk has stated matters to 443 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,880 him. One of his adoring fans gave it 444 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,080 to him and it has his wife's name on the bracelet. 445 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,240 I think it has his dog's name. Whatever you know, it matters to 446 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,760 him. This is a piece of something. 447 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,400 It's it's like a championship. You just you just elevated that 448 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:25,320 to the level of this matters enough to fight for and the fact 449 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,760 that McIntyre is going to put it all on the line just to take 450 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,960 this thing that matters so much for Punk. 451 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,800 It's brilliant and it's pro wrestling in my opinion. 452 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,520 What are your thoughts on that? Because again, there's no 453 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,560 there's no official championship. 454 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,240 It's literally this fan made bracelet that they're fighting 455 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,000 over Devon. All I can say is storytelling. 456 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,040 That's what it is. It's storytelling, true at its 457 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040 best. And you know, when you have a 458 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,560 storyline like that that people can invest in over a bracelet, I 459 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,960 mean, come on, think about it. It's not about a title. 460 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,080 It's not about anything else other than this bracelet. 461 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,040 And I mean, that's great storytelling. 462 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280 It's storytelling one-on-one. And that's what I think the rest 463 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,960 of the business is missing so much of is great storytelling. 464 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,200 And to be able to take a bracelet as simple as a bracelet 465 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,160 and to make it mean more than anything and Punk fighting for 466 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,320 that bracelet as if it's the world heavyweight title and 467 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,600 people are actually invested in that and reacting, that's 468 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,480 incredible. I mean, what can you possibly 469 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,000 say? How? 470 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,400 I mean, it's just totally. It's incredible. 471 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,440 It sure is. It sure is. 472 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,640 And again, kudos to those two professionals there because 473 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,960 that's a lot of work to put in to get fans to care about 474 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,840 something that quite frankly, is, is a very simple, you know, 475 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,600 some would even say a trivial thing. 476 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,120 But when it's yours and you have sentimental value and you 477 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,240 express that to the world and then some bully is coming to 478 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,560 take it from you. Oh man, I'm in. 479 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,440 Relatable. Wonderful. 480 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. 481 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,440 Now, unfortunately, and I know you out there, this is your 482 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,400 favorite part of each episode here, when we have to report on 483 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,600 the other side of the fence, our friends over an AEW, the 484 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,680 turnstile. Yeah, always right, Because Tony 485 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760 and I know you're listening. Tony, you have some splainin to 486 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,160 do. As Ricky Ricardo would say to 487 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:39,480 Lucy, I'm dating myself now. The turnstile count for AEW all 488 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:49,000 in was 46,476, and that's according to Brandon Howard 489 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,440 Thurston, the third over at Russell Nomics. 490 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,720 So, you know, Tony Kahn was claiming that they sold over 491 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 50,000 tickets for this event, which is a far cry from what he 492 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,760 claimed last year, which was 81,000. 493 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,240 But the turnstile last year was 72,265 S, no matter how you 494 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,960 slice it. I mean, goodness gracious, 36% 495 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,840 down. Tremendous, tremendous downturn 496 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,280 in business there. Same venue, by the way, one year 497 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760 apart. Any thoughts on that? 498 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,120 Devon the 1st. Time they went out there, it was 499 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,320 a big thing. AW had never been there before, 500 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,320 so people who are intrigued, the hype was there. 501 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,120 I mean, everything was good. So that might have been the 502 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,680 reason why the number was so high the first time. 503 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,640 You know, I don't know. I mean, again, maybe the 504 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,440 promoting wasn't as good as it was the first time. 505 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,440 I don't know. All I know is Tony has to do 506 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,240 something to get it back. He has a tremendous roster. 507 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,200 He has to do something to get the people to come out and 508 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 support his product. He's got people coming out, but 509 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,200 not to the numbers that he should be. 510 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,480 To be able to compete with the likes of AWWE. 511 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,040 That's where he needs to step it up a little bit. 512 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,760 I don't know what it's going to take. 513 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,840 I really don't and and I'm hurt to hear those numbers because 514 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,440 again, I have friends in AEW, I've met people for the first 515 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,760 time that will, you know, great, restless, great, great 516 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,160 individuals in AW and I would love to see them prosper on the 517 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,840 same level as a WWEI think that they have every right to be able 518 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,320 to. They bust their asses every week 519 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,200 to do that. There's something that is 520 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,800 missing and I don't know have the key or the cue to say what 521 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,320 it is. I just think something is 522 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,960 missing and Tony has to figure that out fast. 523 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Yeah, he's got to figure that out fast, because here we go 524 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,960 again. And I know that I keep bringing 525 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,000 this up, but folks, that the clock is ticking. 526 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:05,240 AEW does not have a United States television airing rights 527 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,000 deal. They don't have a contract to 528 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,720 air on any TV in the United States come 2025, which is only 529 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880 a few short months away. That's a big deal. 530 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,840 That's a that's a very, very big deal concerning deal. 531 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,040 And you can't look at the downturn in business and not 532 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,520 wonder if networks are looking at that and saying, well, why 533 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,000 would I pay you what you want when you're not even drawing 534 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,360 what you used to draw? Doesn't make any sense. 535 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,120 You know what, what am I getting in return? 536 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,880 If, if we're going to pay you a whole heap of money to air your 537 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,200 program. So I don't know, man, I, I hope 538 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,600 they figure it out, but it, it just doesn't look good. 539 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,240 There's no other way to describe it. 540 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,760 It just does not look good at all. 541 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,200 And you know, folks took a, a story and ran with it and our 542 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:02,000 friend Swerve commented on it. There was a claim that the WWE 543 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,480 are quote UN quote contract tampering with AEW talent and, 544 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920 and swerve, somebody had said they don't know if that's true 545 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,120 or not Swerve, So I could show you the text messages. 546 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,840 I could show you the text messages. 547 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,880 Uh oh. So it's interesting. 548 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160 I, I, you know, I, I've been digging around a little bit, 549 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,600 Devon, doing my research. Contract tampering is 550 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,800 technically not a thing, especially in, in pro wrestling, 551 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320 right? That that term is not a term 552 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,560 that's utilized. It's not a legal term in as it 553 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,760 relates to something that's outside of regular sports. 554 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,200 And even in regular sports, you may have some of that language 555 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,800 within the rules and regulations, but from a legal 556 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,280 perspective, it's not a real thing. 557 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,280 I don't even know where contract tampering even came from because 558 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,080 of that. So to throw that around and make 559 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,880 that claim, it's weird. So, So let me pose this question 560 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320 to you, Devon. I'm putting you on the spot on 561 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,000 this one. You're under contract in ECWI, 562 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,520 am representing WCW. And I say to you, hey, Devon 563 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,560 Dudley, are you still under contract? 564 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,760 And if so, when is your contract up? 565 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,120 Because we're interested in you, as far as you know, when you 566 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,840 were an active wrestler back then. 567 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Would that conversation, would that exchange be somehow, some 568 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840 way against the rules or even against the law? 569 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360 I don't think so. I do know that there was some 570 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,960 contract tampering when I was in ECWWCW. 571 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,760 Tried to raid the locker room of ECW and was successful with some 572 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:51,960 talent. They were using people that were 573 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:58,640 ready to jump ship and that were angry with Paul to talk to 574 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,320 people with inside of the company. 575 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,040 So that back then that was considered contract tampering 576 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:14,280 because you just can't do that in terms of if somebody's under 577 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,520 contract, try to negotiate a deal to leave and then go 578 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,320 another company. And WCW did that. 579 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,080 And which is why I believe there was bad blood between Eric and 580 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:33,120 Paul at one point, because Paul felt like Eric was trying to 581 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,040 take down his company. And, you know, that was 582 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,239 something that was very real back then because of everything 583 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,719 that WCW was doing, offering the big contracts to lure people 584 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,000 away from WWE and so forth and so on. 585 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:58,440 So, you know, it's just one of those things to where it's a 586 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,560 fine line. You have to be careful, you 587 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,000 know, talking to say, hey, is your contract up, You know? 588 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680 Yeah, it'll be up in July and we're in April. 589 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,880 OK, when your contracts up, come see, come talk to me if you 590 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560 like. I don't think that is. 591 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,680 But again, there's a thin line and I don't know what the law 592 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,760 says in terms of that, but it could be considered. 593 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,840 So, so this is an interesting point that you bring up because 594 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,480 when back back then, when WCW was quote UN quote, raiding the 595 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,360 ECW locker room, Paul Heyman did threaten to sue. 596 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:45,120 And you know, Turner, Turner definitely they were adverse to, 597 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,840 to lawsuits. They wanted to settle as many 598 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,240 things as they could to avoid having to waste money in court 599 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,320 about different things and what have you. 600 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,560 So they actually did settle with him. 601 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,120 And I remember Heyman doing various documentaries stating 602 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,320 that, which is why you had certain crossovers and things 603 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,840 like that that eventually happened. 604 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560 But that's an interesting thing. They settled before it could 605 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,480 even reach the heights of case law in pro wrestling where 606 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,920 someone would literally say you tampered with such and such 607 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,120 contract. I'm suing you for this. 608 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,200 Now a judge has to rule on it. There's there's nothing, there's 609 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,600 no rulings where a court has stated that this is a real 610 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,600 thing, which is why it's tricky. Now there are other terms that 611 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,840 you could use. And certainly the scenario that 612 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,520 you just stated, Devon, where they're telling you to get out 613 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200 of your current deal so you can come work for them. 614 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,200 That's an interesting premise, which is different from when you 615 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480 contract up, come talk to me when it's up. 616 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,600 So that's, that's an interesting premise there. 617 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,120 That's an interesting premise. I mean, at this point, do you 618 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,200 think that's something that WWE needs to do with all the money 619 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,120 and all the success that they have going on? 620 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,560 In your opinion, do you think WWE needs to be quote UN quote 621 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,240 contract tampering with any AE W talent? 622 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,080 I really don't think so. I mean WW, ES, locker, locker 623 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,680 room is stacked. I mean we all see what they're 624 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,760 doing in terms of numbers and things like that. 625 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,840 I just don't see it happening. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't 626 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,000 think it happening. Again, they have the talent 627 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,640 there, so it's not like they don't and they definitely are 628 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,360 not struggling. They're not hurting. 629 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,520 So again, unless there is something else that we don't 630 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,200 know about, that's the only thing I can think of. 631 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,880 Well said, Well said. We don't know. 632 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,160 We don't know. But what I will say is, look, 633 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,240 Swerve, congratulations to you. Allegedly, he just signed one of 634 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:54,720 the biggest singles wrestlers contracts in wrestling today to 635 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,160 stay in AEW. Congratulations on that Swerve. 636 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,680 And I just hope and I pray that come 2025 and beyond, at least 637 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,720 the life of your contract that that company is still around so 638 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:08,800 they can pay you out that money. Because if you talk to those 639 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,640 poor folks over at the Black News Channel, that 24 hour 640 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,400 conservative news from a black perspective, that Channel that 641 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Shad Khan, the owner of ATW used to own, he bankrupted that 642 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,040 company and did not pay those folks. 643 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,600 He paid them barely pennies on the dollar in the end. 644 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,600 And that's been his business MO in a lot of instances. 645 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,120 I hope that doesn't happen to you and others in ATW swear 646 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,440 because that would be unfortunate. 647 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,320 Get your money, do what you got to do. 648 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,920 Props to that. I just hope it works out man. 649 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Devon, what do you think about Swerve becoming one of the the 650 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080 higher, higher paid wrestlers in the industry right now? 651 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,400 Allegedly. Well, I think I have to be part 652 00:38:53,400 --> 00:39:01,240 of his entourage. No, I think it's great. 653 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,920 I mean, you know, if you can get that money, get the money, do 654 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,800 what you got to do. I mean, you know, I think it's 655 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,040 great for Swerve to be able to do that. 656 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,880 Listen, Swerve has worked his butt off to get to where he is 657 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,240 today. I love the guy. 658 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,720 I think he's great. I think he's great as a wrestler 659 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:22,760 and I also think that he is excellent as a performer. 660 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,160 I, I do think the WWE might have dropped the ball on letting him 661 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,720 go, but you know what, everything happens for a reason. 662 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,840 Maybe he would have stayed in the in WWE and maybe still 663 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080 wouldn't have become the Swerve that we see today. 664 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,080 So maybe he needed to go and leave the WWE to go somewhere 665 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,000 else to find what he needed to do. 666 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,840 Listen, Cody Rose did that. You know, when when Vince let 667 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,120 Cody go, Cody went out and made something of himself outside of 668 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360 the giant, outside of the company. 669 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,400 So in my opinion, it was a good idea for that to happen to Cody, 670 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,760 because who's to say that Cody would be the Cody Rose now that 671 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,640 you see today? So he had to have done that. 672 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,600 And again, my hat goes off to to guys like that, that can, you 673 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,960 know, have something like that happen to them, like getting 674 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,200 fired, you know, let go and then making a name outside. 675 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,000 Look at Zack Ryder. He's another one. 676 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,480 Curt Hawkins. I mean, they're doing an 677 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,840 excellent job out there on their own without the giant behind 678 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,920 them, you know, And that just goes to show you you can do 679 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,920 anything you want if you put your mind to it. 680 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,720 And those guys are doing that just that. 681 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920 So again, kudos to those guys. Kudos the swerve. 682 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,440 Congratulations on that contract. 683 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,240 Hey, next time we go out to dinner, I'm I'm going to give 684 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:45,000 you the bill. OK? 685 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,640 I'm just joking. I'm just going. 686 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,240 You're going. To have to pick up a tab for the 687 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:55,560 next couple of years, not just a bill, the bill going forward, 688 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,280 right? I'm joking W fans and get all up 689 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,200 in the bunch. And you know Devon, pay all 690 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,920 goddamn bills goddamnit. It's a joke guys, relax. 691 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,400 Go back in your mother and wait for that apple pie to get there. 692 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,320 Good. Congratulations, Swerve, and 693 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,800 congratulations to anyone else who's able to build off of where 694 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,760 he leaves off with this. I mean, certainly if Swerb is 695 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,920 going to get that kind of money, that definitely opens up the 696 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,640 door for more black and brown talent for sure to get that kind 697 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,920 of money and beyond, which is not something traditionally 698 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960 we've seen in the industry as a whole. 699 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,280 So if if we can keep driving these contracts up in that 700 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,400 regard, then so be it. The other side of that though, 701 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,640 too is, hey, you got to actually produce, you got to actually pay 702 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,320 that contract out in your production, and Swerve is 703 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,080 definitely talented enough so we know that that's not the issue. 704 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,920 So then it's it comes back around to who's writing these 705 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,680 storylines, who is developing this creative, who's out there 706 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,480 putting out the merch. I think for an AW champion, 707 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,720 Swerve had the least amount of merch available compared to 708 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:10,400 others who held that belt. That's a mistake. 709 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,640 That's a big fat mistake. You put the belt on the guy. 710 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,080 He's supposed to be the face of the company. 711 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,200 He should have merch. He should have as much merch, if 712 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,120 not more merch than everybody else in the company. 713 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,240 Quite frankly, that's your biggest title. 714 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,400 So you know, Tony, in that case, you're only hurting yourself, 715 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Tony, You know what I mean? Because it's not like people 716 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,840 don't want to support Swerve. You heard what Devon just said. 717 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,320 So it's it's got to make sense. It's it's certainly got to make 718 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440 sense. But certainly happy for the guy. 719 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,600 There was another report, another claim that WWE were were 720 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:50,480 upset that AEW was driving up the contracts and and you know, 721 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,360 WWE is not going to pay these types of prices. 722 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,760 They were upset that people getting paid so much money. 723 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,640 Again, I got to ask you, Devon, you're the expert. 724 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,920 You're the man who worked with the company for many, many 725 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,760 years. You're the man who's had, you 726 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,360 know, many contracts in wrestling Is that the sort of 727 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,640 thing that the WWE be upset with another company spending more 728 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,400 money for talent than maybe they are willing to spend I. 729 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,280 Don't see that happening. WWE, you know, again, the the 730 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,160 Hunter regime might be a little different, but I do know the 731 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,760 Vince regime didn't care. That was his mentality. 732 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,120 He did not care. He was going to do whatever he 733 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,600 wanted to do and pay whatever he wanted to pay. 734 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,000 Now, again, during the attitude of a different story, you know, 735 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,680 he had to pay money in order to lure the people back from 736 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,320 Bischoff and, and, and Ted, but he was competing on a much 737 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,000 smaller basis because, you know, of course, Ted Turner was a 738 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000 billionaire and he was throwing that money around left and 739 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,680 right. So I, I, I don't know, it's hard 740 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,600 for me to say. I don't think WWE is worried 741 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,640 about what type of money that they are pushing out there. 742 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,960 And if again, if they did, they were not going to tell you about 743 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,200 it. Well said. 744 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040 Well said. So so, you know, I don't know 745 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,960 folks, Vince McMahon said that, hey, we, we got plenty of talent 746 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:19,320 that we can give them in relation to AEW getting former 747 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960 WWE talent. So I don't, you know, that that 748 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,320 philosophy I think still carries in that company. 749 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,640 They're doing too well for one individual wrestler to matter so 750 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,240 much that they're upset that somebody else is going to pay 751 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,600 that wrestler more. If you're going to, if you're 752 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,840 going to drive up your own bills, so to speak, then so be 753 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,640 it. Keep doing that. 754 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,320 You know, you can only do that for so long before it starts not 755 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,240 making sense anymore. So we'll just leave it at that. 756 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,800 But again, I think Swerve is is he is talented enough to pay for 757 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,800 that contract and then some? Does he have the right 758 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,880 leadership to set him up, put him in a position where he can 759 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,680 shine on that level? And you know, that's yet to be 760 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,640 determined because thus far it has not happened, unfortunately. 761 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,640 Well, that's. He that's the key right there. 762 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,680 And I also, you know, and it's funny because I think with the 763 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,360 success that Swerve is having now, if he was in the WWEI think 764 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,560 they would know how to use him correctly and know how to 765 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,800 capitalize on that. And I think that's where 766 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,400 probably AEW isn't doing the right thing by him. 767 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,960 Again, Tony's got so much on his plate that it's hard for him to 768 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,960 just, you know, concentrate on, you know, single guys or trying 769 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,800 to get guys like Swerve or anybody else. 770 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000 He's got so much on his plate. He needs help. 771 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,640 He really needs help. And maybe this is where, you 772 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,120 know, like the rumors said that Shane McMahon might be coming to 773 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,280 WWE, coming to AW, maybe this is where he gets that help from. 774 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,680 You know, I, I, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, correct me if 775 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,720 I'm wrong, I think Jeff Jarrett is there too. 776 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:05,640 Look, Jeff has a great mind as well, you know, so why not use 777 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,320 Jeff if he's not using Jeff already? 778 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,400 But, you know, to have minds like Shane McMahon or to have my 779 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,120 like Jeff Jarrett collaborating together and even with Dustin. 780 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,640 Dustin has been around the business for Lord knows for 781 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,760 decades. And his father, I'm sure, taught 782 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,880 him very well. He was under the learning tree. 783 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,520 Why not use those wrestling minds? 784 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,440 Put your pride aside, stop thinking you have to do 785 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,680 everything by yourself because you gotta burn yourself out. 786 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,200 Have those that have the right track record to be able to help 787 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,040 you, to be able to push the stars that you need to push and 788 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,360 to get them where they need to be. 789 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,320 I think that's the most important thing behind all of 790 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,600 that. So you know, Tony, if you are 791 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,160 listening, I'm not Downing you. I'm not putting you down, but 792 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,520 I'm, I'm saying you have a great company, but you need help. 793 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,920 Get great wrestling minds like a Jeff Jarrett, like a Dustin 794 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,800 Rose, or even if Shane McMahon is coming in, use Shane. 795 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,200 He's been on his father's learning treat for Lord knows 796 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,320 how long. Get these guys to come in and to 797 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,480 help you and to get this company where it needs to be. 798 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,240 Spitting fire, I'm telling you, spitting fire. 799 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,280 I love it. I love it. 800 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,120 That's good stuff there. Speaking of good stuff, you 801 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,280 know, we talked about some folks who have unfortunately passed 802 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,160 away. Let's get to the other side 803 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,080 here. Let's talk about some birthdays. 804 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,240 First and foremost, happy birthday to one of our wonderful 805 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:44,160 listeners and supporters, Larry J Winfield, AKA Just Larry. 806 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,440 OK, I I asked him one time, what's your nickname? 807 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,720 Is he you got a nickname at all? He said no, just Larry. 808 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,880 So I said, OK, there it is. You're just Larry. 809 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000 Just Larry just celebrated his birthday. 810 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600 I thought we need to put that on AT shirt. 811 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,320 Just. Larry, just Larry, what? 812 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,480 What? What do you got to say to just 813 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,680 Larry that diva? Listen, another trip around the 814 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,720 sun. Keep doing what you're doing and 815 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:14,120 just keep testifying, my brother. 816 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,120 Indeed, indeed. Keep testifying. 817 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,760 I love that. And of course, a wonderful 818 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,760 friend of the show. You know, she's been on numerous 819 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,240 times through the years. And quite frankly, she's one of 820 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,080 the more popular people to come on the show. 821 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,200 I mean, this young lady, she's got more listings than some big 822 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,280 name Hall of Farmers, which is really still just tremendous in 823 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,120 my opinion. She is a Devon Dudley Academy 824 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,280 graduate and someone who is having a tremendous 2024. 825 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600 I mean even at the River City Wrestling Con, she was able to 826 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,000 main event and then she even had a match the next day on top of 827 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,000 that. So really this young lady is 828 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,320 just blossoming as a a bright young star in the pro wrestling 829 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,560 world. We are talking about the young 830 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,280 lady lady formerly known as Scotty Sparks. 831 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,520 Now she goes by the name Scotty Sosa. 832 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,000 Happy birthday Scotty Devon. You're her mentor. 833 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000 She sits under your learning tree and what have you. 834 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,320 What are your thoughts on Scotty? 835 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,920 Scotty has given me more Gray hair within the first six months 836 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,440 and I've never had for my own kids. 837 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,480 No, I'm just joking, I love Scotty. 838 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,960 Scotty's great. She's a hell of a hand. 839 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,840 She has a lot of spunk. She's ready, eager, eager to 840 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,120 learn and doesn't give you any problems. 841 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,960 I hope she had a hope. She's having a great birthday 842 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120 and I can't wait to see her, to give her a big hug and tell her 843 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,080 how proud I am of her. She's a tremendous person and my 844 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,120 hat goes off to her. She cuts a heck of a promo, huh? 845 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,040 I mean, these these little skits that she puts online and what 846 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,920 have you, People always cracking up, man. 847 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,040 I mean that that kids got some personality. 848 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,840 Absolutely. And that's one of the things 849 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,440 that we worked on our with. And she grew as time went on. 850 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,320 And you know, now look at that. She's blossoming like a true 851 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,640 rose. Indeed, and I'd like a true 852 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,720 rose. I like that. 853 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,800 I like that. So once again, happy birthday 854 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,320 Scotty. We're all rooting for you are 855 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,000 very proud of you and and you know, blessings to you and your 856 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,280 family as you celebrate your birthday. 857 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaking of blessings once again, the Ottawa Comic Con, 858 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,360 it's happening this upcoming weekend here, September 7th and 859 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,200 8th. Devon Dudley is going to be in 860 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,240 the building folks. So you make sure that you get 861 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,320 your tickets there. In fact, the Comic Con is 862 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,400 actually September 6th to 8th, but the 7th and the 8th, Devon 863 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,160 will be there personally there. So get your tickets, make sure 864 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,640 you show up, say hello to the Hall of Famer. 865 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,120 Beyond that, Devon, if anyone wants to reach you or check out 866 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,280 the wrestling school, what's the best way they can do that? 867 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,640 Yeah, you can reach us at Devon Dudley Academy on Instagram as 868 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,600 well as Twitter, same handle and every once in a while on Testify 869 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,760 Devon, I actually post things as well about the school. 870 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,720 So you can get it from all three of those accounts. 871 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,920 And we have a Devon Dudley on Facebook as well. 872 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,200 So check it out. You'll see all the new students 873 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,920 that are coming in. Some of the things that we 874 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,040 basically I'd like to introduce to the students, so you know, 875 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:24,280 those that do come and basically check out our website, they can 876 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,120 see what we're doing and then maybe they want to be a part of 877 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,720 the Devon Dudley Academy. We also have a website at 878 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:37,240 www.devondudleyacademy.com. It has all the pricing, the 879 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:41,240 times and days that we operate and you can become part of that 880 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,920 part of that as well. Great stuff and of course, Duke 881 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,280 loves wrestling on on Twitter or on Instagram, Duke loves 882 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,160 wrestling@gmail.com. Send in your questions, birthday 883 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680 shout outs, any comments that you have about the show. 884 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,680 You know, we appreciate you folks out there, including you, 885 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:05,920 you AE W faithfuls who are so upset that we have an opinion. 886 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,880 And and that's an expert like Devon Dudley is able to share 887 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,480 insight. He has historical insight that 888 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,400 he's not only lived, but also has been able to to experience 889 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,640 first hand beyond just applying it. 890 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:25,560 So when he talks about what makes a successful company, what 891 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,360 makes a successful wrestler, who else could even speak about that 892 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,640 other than a guy who is A5 time Hall of Famer? 893 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,080 I think he knows just a little bit about what he's talking 894 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,680 about folks. So I'm going to leave it at 895 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,360 that. Devon, you get the last word, 896 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,120 bro. Well, hold on. 897 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,920 I'm not to mention also no one's burying in the company. 898 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,440 You know, they take constructive criticism as we're burying them 899 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,720 no where. We want the company to strive. 900 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,280 We want them to get better. So please stop thinking that 901 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,600 we're trying to bury the company because we're not. 902 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,160 We want Tony to get the help that he needs to help be a 903 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,760 successful company, and that's all we're saying. 904 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,040 So please stop thinking that the criticism or the constructive 905 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,280 criticism that we give is negative because it's not. 906 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,000 We want to see them strive because they have great talent 907 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,360 in that locker room. We just want to see them be 908 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,120 produced and pushed the right way. 909 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,600 That's it. The great word of the day is, 910 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,160 and again, I can't say this enough, do unto others as you 911 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,520 want others to do unto you. Treat them with respect and 912 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,960 they'll treat you with respect. And if they don't put their 913 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:33,320 asses through a table, definitely out of time on Duke 914 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,120 Love Wrestling.