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Welcome back to another edition 20 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:29,800 of the Devon of the Duke podcast. 21 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,520 It is a limited edition show hosted by your main man. 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,320 Duke loves wrestling, of course, the Hall of Famer himself one of 23 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:40,280 the greatest of all time. Mr. Devon Dudley, how you doing 24 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,840 there, Devon? I'm. 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Doing all right, little tired, but I'm living. 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,480 Yeah, well, listen, not only you living, you're thriving. 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,280 What is this big event that you have coming up this Sunday down 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,640 there in in Florida? Man, I'm so excited about this. 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Melbourne, FL Devon Dudley is doing the what? 30 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 There's a lot of times, you know, people are saying Devon 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,240 get the tables, but it's not really Devon get the tables 32 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,560 anymore. It's pretty much Devon get the 33 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:13,360 cigars. So there's going to be a new 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,000 cigar coming out that they're going to, you know, it's going 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,840 to be my own line of cigars. And I'm very happy to say that 36 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,920 I'm very pleased this is coming out. 37 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,440 It's a way of doing things outside of pro wrestling, but 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,360 yet not leaving, but just wanting to be able to do things 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 on my own, you know, my own terms, you know, and not too 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,400 many people can honestly say they can do that. 41 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,080 So I'm trying to get my hands into everything outside of the 42 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,320 wrestling business. Not saying that I'm trying to 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,880 leave fully, but just have enough stuff to where I could 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,880 take a break for a couple of years, come back, take a break, 45 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,640 come back, you know, do stuff like that. 46 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Because again, out of sight, out of mind sometimes makes the 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,240 people want to see you. But when you're there down their 48 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,120 throats all the time, it's like, oh, where's this guy ever going 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,800 to go away? And I'm trying to prevent that 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,400 from happening. So it's going to be on Sunday, 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,400 October 27th and we're going to be doing a Halloween contest as 52 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,960 well. And the win of that Halloween 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,000 contest, the prize is $500, you know, So we're going to be doing 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,160 that. There's also going to be a car 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,080 show that's going to be there as well. 56 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,200 So check out some of the new cars and how these guys put 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,520 these cars together and all the fun stuff. 58 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,960 So it's going to be a really a great moment. 59 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:35,760 The flexivity starts. It start at 3:00 PM at Fairway 60 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Cigar Lounge in Melbourne, FL so come on out and you know, check 61 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,040 it out. Check it out indeed. 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Once again, Fairway Cigar Lounge. 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Now that's over there at 6729 Colonnade Ave. 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Unit 108 in Melbourne, FL Folks, you can check out Testify Devon 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,240 over there on Instagram for the flyer and more information, but 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,320 come on, you definitely want to be there. 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,120 The fact that you can win $500.00 for that costume contest 68 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,760 is exciting, but more importantly, you get to see our 69 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:15,760 main man Devon Dudley and try out his own cigar line as part 70 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,640 of this Natura Cigar Company. So, you know, pretty cool, big 71 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,800 things going on for the Hall of Famer Devon Dudley, right? 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,600 In time for the holiday season, right? 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,680 Listen, I got 7 kids, I got a support so I need the money. 74 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,880 You know something, you just made me think of something, man. 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,640 And and and I I've been meaning to ask you this, so this is fun 76 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,400 because wait. Hold, hold on. 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,640 Before you go any further, just remember I'm not Nick Cannon, so 78 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,440 you know I don't have 14 kids. So wait, you're not trying to 79 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,040 populate the whole world like Genghis Khan, like like like 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Nick Connor, Nick Cannon is doing there? 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,720 Yeah, know him or Bret Hart's family. 82 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,600 God rest, you know, Stew and Helen Hart. 83 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,520 And of course, my main man, Rikishi. 84 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,840 You know, every time I turn around, Rikishi got another kid. 85 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:06,520 I'm trying to catch up to him but he's going too fast for me. 86 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Sure, you can say that again. Sure, absolutely. 87 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,680 But you got enough kids for for a lot of us put together, man, 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,480 my goodness, I'm telling you. Listen, the average now, you 89 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,320 know, I think it's 3 or 4 and that's saying too much for a lot 90 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,160 of people, you know, So, but the fact of the matter is, you know, 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:28,800 I had the twins when I was 2223. Then their mom and I, we had 92 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,960 Matthew right after that tonight. 93 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,040 We, we unfortunately we didn't make it. 94 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,760 And so we got divorced. I got remarried and, you know, 95 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,840 met my fourth son, Preston's mom. 96 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,120 And, you know, now Preston's 16. So we got the twins at 29, about 97 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,920 to be 30, Matthew at 23. We have Preston at 16, about to 98 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,280 be 17. And then, of course, you know, I 99 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:59,000 got three more kids from a third marriage and they are 6, four 100 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,240 and eight months. That is incredible. 101 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,720 That is absolutely incredible man. 102 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:07,440 God bless you. But yeah, but when people ask 103 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,760 me, they go 7 kids, good God, now that much where you are and 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,320 I'm like, yeah, you gotta remember half of them are 105 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,440 already grown. I had them all when I was in my 106 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,160 20s, basically the third, you know, the last three I got now. 107 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,760 So it wasn't as big as people, you know, when they make it out 108 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,080 because again, the first, the first four I had when I was like 109 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,280 in my 20s and in my 30, early 30s. 110 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,960 So and they're and they're grown. 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,040 So it's not like I can claim them anymore. 112 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,240 My taxes. Damn. 113 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,600 See, but but the other part, that too, you've never stopped 114 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,600 in terms of having a break. Like Yep, we we had a kid. 115 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,040 The kid, you know, becomes an adult now. 116 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,760 They leave the nest. Now we got the house to 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,600 ourselves. You you've never had that that 118 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,120 situation since you started. No, because I always, I always, 119 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,840 I love kids And when, you know when they get to crying and 120 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,920 screaming and all of that, sure you get frustrated. 121 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,360 I get frustrated, but at the same token, I look at it, you 122 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,880 know their first words, you know when they walk for the first 123 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,520 time, you know, all those first little things that just melt 124 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,600 your heart. And that helps me with them, you 125 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 know, So I love them. And not to mention, it makes me 126 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,880 the person that I am today. You know, I'm not out there 127 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,080 whiling out or whatever because I know that my kids are 128 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,680 important and they need to have a role model that's going to 129 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,800 show them right from wrong. Deep, very, very deep. 130 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,680 That's good stuff, man. And we know that you wonderful 131 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,240 listeners out there, you've been appreciating hearing about this 132 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,480 side of Devon Dudley, the family man and his philosophies on life 133 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,720 and what have you. It's, it's really been something 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,600 special the, the, the way that folks have taken to our 135 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,160 conversations on the show, especially about who you are as 136 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,680 a man and as a, as a husband and a father and all that good stuff 137 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,400 there. So that's, that's pretty cool. 138 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,560 That's pretty cool. I, I wanted to ask you because 139 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,880 I, I, I've been wondering about this, you know, I, I have a lot 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,360 of great conversations with folks in the, in the industry, 141 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,520 yourself included. I love talking to the folks who 142 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,000 are just breaking in, the folks who are on the cusp of becoming, 143 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,760 you know, that, that star or superstar when they signed their 144 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,440 first big contract and they go from having to eat tuna fish 145 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 and, and, and share hotel rooms to now they can kind of loosen 146 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,200 up the belt a little bit and, and enjoy life a little bit 147 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,160 more. If you can remember back to that 148 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,640 time period where you had a holiday season where it was 149 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,480 normal, you know you can you can afford what you can afford. 150 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,360 You do what you got to do. You make sure you provide for 151 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,760 everybody but it, but you know, you got to really still keep the 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,160 belt low tight, right? That period, that period where 153 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,880 you went from that, which was normal to, oh, shoot, I just 154 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,400 made a, a, a, a good amount of money this year and now, you 155 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,120 know, we can kind of loosen the belt a little bit and start 156 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,800 tapping into things that we want as opposed to just focusing on 157 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,240 our needs. Tell me about that transition 158 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,880 period in terms of the holidays, 'cause you were a parent by that 159 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,560 point. How how did that feel, man? 160 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:18,240 And, and, and, and what did you do? 161 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,800 What was like the real moment where you were like, yeah, I 162 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,760 can. I can actually really start 163 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,880 spending some money now because it's coming in. 164 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,280 You know, I had hit a little bit of a low point in my life after 165 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,560 I left the WWE and I remember, you know, saying to myself and 166 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:41,080 the twins, mom, you know, all the money in the world can't buy 167 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,600 you happiness. And it's true when they say that 168 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,960 because it really can't. And I was very unhappy in my 169 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,200 life at the time and, you know, just struggling with life 170 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,840 period, going through a divorce. I mean, it was rough. 171 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,320 But I remember looking back when I was with the twins, mom and I 172 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,240 used to say to myself, man, it was such good times. 173 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,160 I remember working at the post office, not really having money 174 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,480 like that. I made money to pay the bills 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,200 and stuff, but not to go out and whenever somebody wanted you 176 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,120 know, something in a department store, what have you, you know, 177 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,040 back in the day when you could look in the mid in the in the 178 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,720 window and see the mannequin with whatever clothes that they 179 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,720 were displaying. You know, back then I remember 180 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,760 looking and wishing that I could, you know, buy that right 181 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,680 away. But what I would do is I would 182 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:34,520 put things on layaway. You know, when they had layaway 183 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,640 programs back then, they don't have that now. 184 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,200 So, but that was back then. And to be able to go to WWE, 185 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 make that money, and then to be able to go into the department 186 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,440 store and just say, OK, here's the credit card, you know, pay 187 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,120 for it. Boom. 188 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,240 It was an amazing transformation. 189 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,840 But at the same token, with all that money and all that, you 190 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,560 know, fame that I had, I kind of missed the old days of having to 191 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:02,880 be able to work for it because you saw that little jacket in 192 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,560 the window of the department store. 193 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:12,400 And when your kids or your wife said they wanted it, but you 194 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,760 really couldn't afford it, But then when you finally put enough 195 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:21,040 money away on layaway or saved, you were able to be able to do 196 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,640 that. And then they how they face 197 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,600 would light up when you did get them that present. 198 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,880 And then it got to the point where the WWE, the money was 199 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,320 coming in and you were just able to buy it with no issues, 200 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,640 whatever they wanted. The presents got bigger and more 201 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,720 expensive. So when you got those little 202 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,640 things like a little jacket or something like that and you gave 203 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,360 it to them, it was like, oh, that's what I'm getting. 204 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,480 It was like it got spoiled. And I had missed those days so 205 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,040 much, you know, trying to have them work and work and work to 206 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,080 get whatever little jacket I had to get for their mom or even, 207 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,120 you know, them. And it was, they were never 208 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,520 ungrateful, but it just felt like back then it was more 209 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,360 appreciated, you know, because we didn't know the finer things 210 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,960 in life and what money could bring. 211 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,440 We didn't know that. That's deep. 212 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,560 That's deep. So, so when you finally got to 213 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:16,800 that point, it was like, damn, here it is. 214 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,400 Wow. Yeah, it was, It was great. 215 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,720 It was a great feeling. You know, at the same time, you 216 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,040 know, you kind of miss the days when you can get like a little 217 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,080 wind up toy in a department store and their faces would 218 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,720 light up or you would get a human zirconium type of ring 219 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,520 that just looked good, give it to your wife or your girlfriend 220 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,800 and they would light up, you know, But then as the presents 221 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,200 got more expensive, it just didn't do that anymore. 222 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Do you have any advice for anyone who, who is hitting that 223 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,200 point in life where they're about to get their first big 224 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,720 contract where it, it's, it's going to change their life as 225 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,520 opposed to living check to check and struggling. 226 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,080 They're going to be able to put some money away and, and you 227 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,000 know, eat the good. They can eat sushi now. 228 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,080 They don't have to stick to canned tuna and all that good 229 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,760 stuff. Do you have any advice for those 230 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,280 folks who were about to hit that moment? 231 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:16,960 Well, I will say enjoy where you are, enjoy what you're doing, 232 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,080 enjoy what you had before all that came in, because money's 233 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,200 going to change you. And you could, you know, you 234 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,480 could say no, but it will, It'll change you. 235 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,200 And you don't even realize it. You don't even see it coming, 236 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,080 but it will. And you know, just stay strong, 237 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,520 stay humbled #1 don't let it get to your head. 238 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,520 And when that first contract comes, put that money away 239 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,680 because you have to remember it's not going to last forever. 240 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,360 One day that contract is going to end, and so will that money. 241 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,840 And you won't. You don't want them to have the 242 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,640 cards, you know, to hold it. You want to be able to call the 243 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,400 shots in your life. Well said, well said. 244 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,960 And, and you know, sage advice, folks, you're listening to a guy 245 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,720 who has been there and done that right. 246 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,640 So the fact that he is here to deliver the message the way that 247 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,280 he is. So many of you wonderful 248 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,000 wrestlers, I, I love it when you reach out and say, hey, man, we 249 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,480 listen to the show. We enjoy it, especially on the 250 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,360 road. We like to hear with with you 251 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,880 and Devon have to say I'm I'm tapping into him for you. 252 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,280 You know what I mean? You you may not always be able 253 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 to see Devon on your own, but I'm tapping into him for you so 254 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,080 you can get some of this advice and you can make wise decisions 255 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,080 hopefully in life. Speaking of wise decisions 256 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,720 WWNXT, you know, for my money, I think it's the best two hours of 257 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,800 pro wrestling on TV today. I just I love the way the show 258 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,160 was formatted. I love the way that it moves and 259 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,000 you know it, it feels like we're getting just high quality 260 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,680 matches every single episode. It's like it's really 261 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,200 competitive and exciting and what have you to see these young 262 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,800 stars mixed in with some veterans. 263 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:06,480 It's it's really cool. So this week's episode started 264 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,880 off with Lash Legend and and Jakara. 265 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,800 And then the next match, Jada Parker was in that match and the 266 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:18,600 next match Oba Femi, really just an incredible mix of young stars 267 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,200 who I know we're going to be major players and the not too 268 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,880 distant future. These these will be, you know, 269 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,120 WrestleMania headliners and and other pay-per-view headliners 270 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,000 and things like that. So before we even get to 271 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,640 specific, what are your general thoughts on the the latest 272 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,800 incarnation of NXT? Well, I think it's great. 273 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,640 You know, you got Matt Bloom. We have Shawn Michaels and Vince 274 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Russo. Now, again, not the Vince Russo 275 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,080 from WCW, but the writer that wrote for WWE, you know, back 276 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,560 when I was a producer about 10 years ago, he was behind the 277 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,920 scenes. People have always got that 278 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,680 mixed up. Whenever I would say, yeah, 279 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,200 Vince Russo, you know, told me to say this, people be like 280 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Vince Russo's back and not that Vince Russo. 281 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,200 It's just a testament to what they're doing over there. 282 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,560 They're hitting every angle they possibly can and they're hitting 283 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,960 home runs with it. Every curveball, every slider, 284 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,680 They're doing freaking phenomenal over there. 285 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,560 They're taking young talent who has never been anywhere or done 286 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,000 anything, making them into superstars before they even get 287 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,400 to the main roster. I just think that's incredible. 288 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,640 It really is. I mean, to take somebody, let's 289 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,600 let's take Jada Parker for example. 290 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Here's a young lady who had never wrestled before. 291 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,680 She was an NIL recruit. They bring her in, they build 292 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,880 her from scratch, show her how they want pro wrestling to be. 293 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,400 And she took to it like a, like a, a, a shark to water. 294 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:55,040 And she has these intangibles where she can cut a solid promo 295 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,280 and her presence, her body language, so, so confident and 296 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,720 serious. And when the match starts and 297 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,960 you see her hit somebody, it really looks like she's beating 298 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,160 the hell out of them 'cause she has that aggression as well, 299 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,960 which is is just so impressive to see. 300 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,040 You had said something that I thought was interesting where 301 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,520 you said that she reminded you of the Olympic legend, the track 302 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,560 and field legend. Flojo. 303 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,040 I want you to expand upon that a little bit because I thought 304 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,920 that was a really interesting call out and I agree with you 305 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,080 there. Yeah, you know, Cuz Flojo back 306 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,560 in the 80s, especially during the Olympics, was probably one 307 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,960 of the best female athletes of that time. 308 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,120 And I remember when she came in Dan XT as a recruit, she 309 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:44,120 basically had the look, she had the personality. 310 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,200 She just, she had the full package. 311 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,760 She really did. And she really is doing well for 312 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,360 herself. You know, I used to talk to her 313 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,480 from time to time and, you know, get ideas. 314 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,240 She loves the business. And for someone who's never been 315 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,440 a wrestling fan, so to speak, like Die Hard or had, like you 316 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,360 said, had any background in pro wrestling, you would never know 317 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,920 it. You would never know it. 318 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,320 She was just a natural. And when you find people that 319 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,760 are naturals like that, you have to be careful because again, 320 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,000 they can become your next trust Stratus, your next China, your 321 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,160 next big thing. So I think NXT is doing the 322 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,560 right thing with what they're doing. 323 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,320 They're taking care of her and they're just blowing it out the 324 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,240 water. You know, Jay, keep it up. 325 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,200 And remember, if you get out of line, you'll have to come back 326 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,800 and put you to a table. That's all I'm saying. 327 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,360 That's. All I'm saying, you know, you 328 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:43,320 said that on the on the previous episode, man, you going to get 329 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,840 us in trouble. You said that on a previous 330 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,840 episode and folks are like, Oh my God, is, is, is Devon going 331 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,120 to have to get straightened out by this Jada Parker? 332 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:53,040 Because listen, man, don't let her fool you. 333 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Now I I'm pretty sure she could deadlift you, Devon. 334 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,520 Listen, I'm not foolish. I'm not taking anybody lightly. 335 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,520 I turn my back, she'll knock my lights out. 336 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,160 Shout out to Jada Parker. Yes, big shout out to you, love 337 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,080 your work and you're really inspiring a lot of people, so 338 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,640 keep it up. Keep it up indeed that's that's 339 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,520 the truth. It's it's really really 340 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,800 something man I I really I have a lot of time for that NXT show. 341 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,400 I think that, and I hope that the other shows, Raw and Smack 342 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,480 down for if, if they take anything from the way NXT is 343 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,560 being developed, the formatting, you gotta have these shows flow, 344 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,200 man. It's it's just maximize your 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,080 minutes and and really make it matter. 346 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Now I understand, you know, if you have a three hour program, 347 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,280 you have to build in some segments and what have you that 348 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,040 will encourage people to, you know, freshen up their drink, 349 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,280 use the restroom, do whatever. That's real stuff. 350 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,560 And I don't care anybody people may be offended hearing somebody 351 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,240 say that, but that's real stuff, man. 352 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,920 That's and in old school wrestling, that was always the 353 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,280 case. They used to have actual 354 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:06,880 intermissions where there would be a 20. 30 minute period in the 355 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,480 middle of the card where you could get up, stretch your legs, 356 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,720 do whatever you want. So you know, in in modern times, 357 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,600 they're still just delivering on action, but the same concept. 358 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,240 I understand you got to bring people down a little bit and 359 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,680 then build them back up, but NXT just maximizes all of their time 360 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,720 and it's it's just you don't want to miss it because there's 361 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,560 so much going on in in a good way. 362 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,160 So I'm I'm really impressed with that programming. 363 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaking of impressive this this bloodline civil war is is 364 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,240 roaring again. So the latest twists and turns 365 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,200 here Devon is that main event. Jay USO, he lost the 366 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,600 Intercontinental Championship. So you know, brown breaker got 367 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,720 it back. And now there's speculation that 368 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Jay is going to join Jimmy and Roman, who need a lot of help in 369 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,400 going up against solo in that new version of the bloodline. 370 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,240 So what are your thoughts on the the the bloodline classic, so to 371 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,280 speak, the original bloodline, the ones? 372 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,560 What are your thoughts on them reforming to take on this, this 373 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,000 new, you know, younger version of the bloodline? 374 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,560 I think Jimmy and Roman need all the help they can get. 375 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,560 You know, Jay coming back, I think it'd be great. 376 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,320 I think it'd be definitely good for business. 377 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,440 Listen, you can't deny that what they did before the breakup 378 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,040 worked, you know, but then, you know, Jay became a solo artist 379 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,240 and really, really doing well for himself. 380 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Very happy for Jay, very sad to see him lose the 381 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Intercontinental title. But, you know, just because you 382 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,640 lose something like that doesn't mean that there's not great 383 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,680 things on the on the horizon, you know? 384 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,400 So this loss can be beneficial to him. 385 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,200 It can make him an even bigger star. 386 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Just think about it. These three get back together 387 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,760 again. That's going to set off a world 388 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,840 of love. It really will, I know the fans 389 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,000 will love it and it's there's so many miles you're going to get 390 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,600 out of that. So the question is, are we going 391 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,600 to get this at Survivor Series or not? 392 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,360 This the civil war with the bloodline and, and, and really 393 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:08,360 where does the rock factor in in all this? 394 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,080 Is he picking a side or, or what? 395 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,560 What's going to happen? So, so many questions. 396 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Where's Paul Heyman? You know, that's another 397 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,680 question that needs to be answered. 398 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,760 So it's it's it's crazy too, because my my bodyguard, she 399 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,160 keeps saying that where is he? And it's like, you're not even a 400 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,600 wrestling fan. What are you talking about? 401 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,920 You got me watching this stuff. I want to know where's Heyman? 402 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:34,920 Where's Heyman? So Paulie, if you listen to 403 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,040 Paulie, you know, there are people out here who want to know 404 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,880 where the hell you're at, man, because you haven't been on TV 405 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,320 in a long time since the summertime and, and folks are 406 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,320 worried about you, Paulie. So, you know, just so you know, 407 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,640 you, you, you're grabbing the casuals just by not even being 408 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,080 there, which is just fascinating to me. 409 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,960 But hey, whatever works, whatever gets you to the dance, 410 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,520 so to speak. But really exciting times with 411 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,680 that storyline. I'm looking forward to see where 412 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,080 the rock goes. Where would you put them? 413 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,400 Well, I think so. Sokola and those guys, I think 414 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,680 they would need that help to push them to that next level. 415 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,160 If they got the Rock on their side and you got the Usos and 416 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,640 Roman fighting against that, that could be that could be like 417 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,760 your story that you're telling where the Usos are going to get 418 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,840 over again with Roman this time and they're all going to be on 419 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,400 the same page. I think it would be a great idea 420 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,280 if that happens. I just think that the Rock being 421 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,360 with Solo, Sokola and those guys and Jacob for two, I think 422 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,080 that's where you should probably because that they would need 423 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,080 that next rub to bounce up. Now they get that. 424 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,880 Forget it. I, I agree, I agree and it's 425 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,680 funny. Solo is doing a phenomenal job 426 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,600 in my opinion. I, I, I really am high on his 427 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,200 transition and his growth. It's a It's not an easy spot to 428 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,200 be in to replace Roman, so to speak. 429 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Right. That's why I said Jay losing 430 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,200 that title was probably good because, you know, again, 431 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:09,000 there's so many options where he can go now, him getting back 432 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800 with the Usos and putting, you know, help and Roman in them. 433 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,160 But again, the Rock going over to Sowa Sokoa's team, that's 434 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,160 even better because it can help put those guys in the league in 435 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,240 itself. And again, they would need that. 436 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,000 So if Jay did get back with Jimmy and and Roman then they 437 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,760 would need something big on the other side to counter that. 438 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040 What better counter than the Rock? 439 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,480 Would you bring Sami Zayn back into the fold? 440 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Would you have him join up with the Usos in Roman and reforming 441 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,600 that bloodline? No, and I say that respectfully 442 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,560 because I think Sammy served his purpose the first time, you 443 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,760 know, with the whole UC OC thing and you know, him getting over 444 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 with them, you know, Sammy needed that rub and he got it. 445 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,480 Now, I think Sammy's doing a good job on his own. 446 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,400 Sammy doesn't need the bloodline. 447 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,960 Sammy doesn't need to go on there with with Roman and and 448 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,640 Jimmy. Let him do it by himself. 449 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,920 Let him go out and take what he got from them the first time and 450 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,920 just ride the wave. I think Sammy can do better on 451 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,360 his own. I'm not saying that he can't 452 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,800 make appearances and come back here and there with those guys, 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,200 help out when needed and still have those funny moments, but I 454 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,720 don't think he needs to be embedded into the the family 455 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 again with the Roman and the Usos. 456 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,760 I think let Jay coming back would be the big pop because 457 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,200 that's what everybody's waiting for. 458 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,200 And let the Usos get back together and maybe take those 459 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,560 titles from the two guys in source Akola's group. 460 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280 So I think that's the deal right there. 461 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,480 Let the Usos go back as being the tag team. 462 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Jay's doing great on his own, but at the same token to put 463 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,200 them back together and to do that, I think that'll be great. 464 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Listen, there's no denying that Jay has proven himself to maybe 465 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520 hold that world title one day and I hope he gets that because 466 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,360 I think he deserves it. All the hard work that he's 467 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,840 putting into things. But that can come later down the 468 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,360 line. But you don't want it to be too 469 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,720 long because then he loses his steam as a singles competitor. 470 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,320 So you know, with him being in the bloodline, having a singles 471 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,520 title match, that could probably hurt too, because remember, 472 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,520 Roman is the you know, the guy that should have he feels like 473 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680 he should have the title and go. So to have Jade get the title, 474 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,560 that might cause dissension. Great point. 475 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,480 That's just a whole new chapter in that story. 476 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,440 And then of course you can run back Jay and Jimmy eventually 477 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480 they you know, when they finally mixed it up in the ring with 478 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,640 each other, they really didn't have the match that they that we 479 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,520 expected them to have. Let's say it like that. 480 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840 We you know, they they definitely let it left a lot of 481 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,880 meat on that bone. So the second time around might 482 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,320 work out, you know what I mean? So that's, that's, that's a 483 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,040 great point. That's a great point. 484 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,280 Something, something really interesting happens this week, 485 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:04,240 Monday Night Raw, where we saw the return of Lillian Garcia, 486 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,360 you know, the legendary announcer who everyone remembers 487 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,360 Lillian and that voice and all that good stuff there. 488 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:18,880 Always loved Lillian, but she's back replacing Samantha. 489 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,080 Samantha Irvin, who you know pound for pound is really the 490 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,920 the best commentator or the best ring announcer in the game today 491 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,200 and such a beloved and and wonderful addition to WWE. 492 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,440 She really did a good job of, of helping enhance and get over so 493 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,480 many talents just by announcing them the way that she does. 494 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,160 So what are your thoughts on that? 495 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,520 What are your thoughts on on Sam leaving and then bringing back 496 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960 Lillian as a result? I thought it was great. 497 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320 You know, I was with Lillian during the during the Attitude 498 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,600 Era and you know, and all of that. 499 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,840 And she did a great job then. So what a perfect fit to come 500 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,840 back and to take Sam's place. Sam is going to be missed. 501 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,640 She was loved by everybody. I don't think there was a bad 502 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,360 thing ever said about her. You know, people loved her. 503 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,800 She was, she did a great job. I remember before I even met 504 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:19,080 her, I started following her on Instagram and I wrote her and I 505 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240 said, you know, I think you're doing a fantastic job. 506 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,040 I hope one day you get to announce me and Bubba coming 507 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,360 into the ring. I think you announcing is 508 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,080 fantastic. She was like, oh, thank you so 509 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,640 much. You know, I really appreciate 510 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,200 that coming from you. And you know, she does, she does 511 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480 a great thing. And then, you know, with her 512 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,280 coming in and basically doing what she was doing, I thought it 513 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,120 was just great. And then me and Bubba went to 514 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,120 Monday Night Raw and Smack Down where we did the the the draft 515 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,560 and she got to announce us. I remember right before we went 516 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,200 out, I said, Samantha, I said, here we go. 517 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,360 I said, I'm not wrestling, but you're still announcing Bubba 518 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,320 myself. And she goes, yeah, I can't 519 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,960 wait. And she did a fantastic job. 520 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Thank you so much, Sam, for that. 521 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Yeah, thank you, Sam. And, and you know, I, I was, I 522 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,120 was poking a little fun there online saying, oh, look at this, 523 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,320 Sam's not there. And, and, and look at this raw 524 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400 is, is, is an even more exciting show this week than it was last 525 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,480 week. And people try to jump all over 526 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,120 me about it and what have you. The the point that I was making 527 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,880 is that she has contributed so much positively that even in the 528 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,080 wake of her leaving, she's leaving the product better off 529 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,760 than it was when she took that microphone over. 530 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,680 So folks, you know, keep that in mind. 531 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Absolutely. Take nothing away from her. 532 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360 She did. She did a fantastic job and you 533 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,400 know, good. It's great to see Lillian back 534 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,400 in that role, but Samantha's going to be missed. 535 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Absolutely. And and we see so many of the 536 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,320 wrestlers are talking about that. 537 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,000 It's amazing that they really took to the way that she 538 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,400 announces and, and, and really feel that she had enhanced them. 539 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,040 It's true. I mean, Chelsea Green, the way 540 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,280 that she announced Chelsea Green coincides with Chelsea Green's 541 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:12,360 growth and, and moving into really a, a, a marketable name 542 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,520 in that company at this point. And, and this is Chelsea's, 543 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,520 what, 3rd or 4th go at at WWE. You know, she was a tough enough 544 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,320 girl and and all that, right? I mean, again, it's just one of 545 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,280 those things where I'm just happy for the talent. 546 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,040 Things are going so good now in the company. 547 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,240 Wrestling in WWE is on a high. Thank you, Triple H for all your 548 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,800 contributions and what you've done to get it to that level 549 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840 from NXT to Smackdown to Monday Night Raw. 550 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,440 I mean, the Paul Levesque era is here, and I hope it doesn't go 551 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,200 away anytime soon. Yeah, we got plenty more to do 552 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,560 here, Triple H OK, We, we, we're going into the holiday season, 553 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,120 so plenty more twists and turns and surprises that we need to 554 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,560 get into. So, yeah, let's let's keep this 555 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,840 train going, brother, and see what more you got going on 556 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880 there. Another interesting thing 557 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,440 happened in the wrestling world is the fact that one of your old 558 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,480 buddies, the Undertaker, you know, he has his new podcast out 559 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,760 and and one of his recent guests is Donald Trump. 560 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,840 And he he advertised that and took pictures with Trump. 561 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,480 And, you know, so many people online were complaining about 562 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,640 this. And I want to get your take on 563 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,360 this, Steve on because here we have Donald Trump. 564 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Regardless of how anyone feels about his politics, this is a 565 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,520 guy who the WWE wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for his 566 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,200 investment in the company, especially at at critical times 567 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,040 in the 80s when the company wasn't doing so well 568 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960 financially, Trump stepped up to the plate. 569 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,680 Now, Duke, let me. Yep, please go ahead. 570 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,600 When you say they weren't doing so well in the 80s, at what 571 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,600 point are you talking about WrestleMania? 572 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,000 5:00 and 4:00. Yeah, when, when they were when 573 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,080 they had to go to Caesar's Palace, you know, and, and and 574 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,720 and do Wrestlemanias on Trump properties. 575 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280 Part of that, he was giving them a big deal, big break. 576 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,440 So they weren't paying as much to rent out the venue. 577 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,120 And that was because he was already friends with Vince and 578 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,320 he was already investing in the WWF at the time. 579 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,960 So he was he was essentially helping Vince out. 580 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,640 Bear in mind, WrestleMania 2 bankrupted the McMahon family. 581 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,240 They lost a lot of money on that deal. 582 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,240 Now, thank God for WrestleMania 3 Hogan versus Andre, which 583 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,040 helped them get back on their feet and and kept the company 584 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,600 going. But there was some tough times 585 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,160 after that. So again, Trump providing a 586 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,280 venue where they can hold WrestleMania, they're not 587 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,080 spending as much. So that means that they can just 588 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,440 make more money. He's been very, very helpful. 589 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040 And that's part of the reason why he's in the Hall of Fame 590 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,080 today because that's that's how important he is to WWE 591 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,880 historically. So because of that, I'm not 592 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,400 surprised if any wrestler is a quote UN quote supporter of 593 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,880 Trump. They know the guy, They've known 594 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440 the guy for years. They've made money because of 595 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,000 the guy. They probably made money with 596 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,440 the guy. You never know what happens 597 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,440 behind the scenes too. So I don't bat an eye to 598 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,800 something like that. But so many of these fans are so 599 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,240 unreasonable where they feel as if folks like yourself, Devon, 600 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,160 because they're fans of your, your wrestling character, they 601 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,000 feel like from an ideological standpoint, a political 602 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,120 standpoint, you must agree with whatever they believe in and 603 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,240 that's it. And if you don't, then the hell 604 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,680 with you. You know what I'd be, they don't 605 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520 even know you, but this is how they feel. 606 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,040 I want to get your take on that. Do do you feel that that's an 607 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,680 unreasonable position to put legends like yourself in, where 608 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440 you have to align with every fan that you don't even know? 609 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560 Absolutely listen. Do what you want to do, say what 610 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,400 you want to say, as long as it's not hurting anybody. 611 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,800 If you want to vote for Donald Trump, vote for Donald Trump. 612 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,400 If you want to vote for Kamala Harris, vote for her. 613 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:17,360 It should never matter. I think you start talking 614 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,920 politics and things like that, it gets out of hand and there's 615 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,360 no reason for it. These fans think because they 616 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,560 see you on TV and whatever, they think that they can run your 617 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,679 life and you just can't. And I don't think they 618 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:34,199 understand that fully. So me personally, I think these 619 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,960 fans need to chill out and stop taking this stuff so seriously. 620 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,800 Then they might say, well, you know, it's our lives are at 621 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,719 stake and it's not well, OK, if the first person wants Donald 622 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,840 Trump to go into office, then why are you criticizing him for 623 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,120 wanting that? Even if you don't believe with 624 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,000 his political views and stuff, you should not be sitting up 625 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,560 there getting mad at the person because he decided he wanted to 626 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,440 vote for Donald Trump or Kamala Harris. 627 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040 You should not be mad at either one of those people. 628 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,280 Listen, you vote for who you want to vote for, he votes for 629 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,320 who he wants to vote for and that's it and the story. 630 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,720 Leave it alone. May the best man or woman wins. 631 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,280 Well said. Well said. 632 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,360 I agree 100%. And, and again, I understand 633 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,880 folks, believe me, you're, you're talking to somebody who 634 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,640 has worked in government on, on various levels, going all the 635 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,160 way back to a high school kid who's just interning. 636 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,920 So the, the, the funny and ironic part about that is a lot 637 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,520 of the stuff that you're discussing, this is my life. 638 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080 You know, I've campaigned and, and a lot of the people that you 639 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080 talk about, I have met personally. 640 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,000 Some of them I know personally. I understand the stakes. 641 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,120 I understand the stakes wholeheartedly. 642 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120 But I think what you folks have to also understand is that we 643 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:01,680 live in a society and to assume and to believe that stars who 644 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,600 you watch on TV have to align with you is just, it's 645 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,840 unreasonable. Let me just say that it is 646 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,000 unreasonable because everyone has a reason why they vote the 647 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,400 way that they do, why they believe what they believe. 648 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,360 And there's a way we can go about having those discussions. 649 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,200 There's a way that we can go about educating one another and 650 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,240 then who knows, maybe even helping folks transition into 651 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:29,000 new ideas. But certainly, you know, cussing 652 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600 somebody out because they interviewed Donald Trump is not 653 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,000 the way to go. Damn it. 654 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,040 If Donald Trump wants to come on this show, I'd invite him. 655 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,200 Certainly Kamala Harris is invited too. 656 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480 I mean, Devon, would you, would you have a problem with with 657 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680 with either one of them coming on the show for an interview? 658 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520 Absolutely not. I would want to ask them, you 659 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,760 know, when am I going to be rich again? 660 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:56,000 Exactly right. I'm I'm with that all the way. 661 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,520 There's one thing I didn't know, and I don't know why this wasn't 662 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:05,080 in the documentary, but I had no idea that Vince and them were 663 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,640 bankrupt after WrestleMania 2. I had no idea that wasn't that 664 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,520 wasn't in the document. We knew that WrestleMania 2 very 665 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,920 risky because of the three locations, Chicago, Chicago, Los 666 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,520 Angeles and New York. They were really, really taking 667 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680 the chance there, but I had no idea they went bankrupt. 668 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,520 Yeah, let me let me tell you how bad it was. 669 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600 They were living in a trailer park after that. 670 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,080 What? The McMahon family lost their 671 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:39,640 house and had to live in a trailer park in a trailer for 672 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:45,600 almost a year because they had put so much into WrestleMania 2 673 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,720 and the returns were not what they needed it to be and they so 674 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,280 they were in bad shape. The company almost went under. 675 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,760 Like legitimately, if WrestleMania 3 didn't do what it 676 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,160 did, I don't think that's everything that happened after 677 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,120 that would have happened. I mean, the WWF would have been 678 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,080 out of business. I did not know that. 679 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680 Yeah, so there's a there's a there's a little bit of history 680 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,960 right there, which again, to think that somebody like Trump, 681 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,760 who was already rich and who had the means to, to invest and, and 682 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,240 help out and bail out and all that good stuff. 683 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,040 I just don't see why you would expect a wrestler who knows that 684 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,480 history, experienced that history or knows Trump, what 685 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,480 have you. Why wouldn't they support the 686 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600 guy? Like there's there's logic 687 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,800 behind that. I get it. 688 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,400 You know what, I beat it. And we don't know what people 689 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,320 know politically and what they don't know. 690 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640 And, you know, most people walking down the street will 691 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,440 tell you I'm not political. I'm not political. 692 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,800 So it's like, why am I going to put that on the shoulders of of 693 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,840 a pro wrestler? You know what I mean? 694 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,360 It just, it's it's just not reasonable. 695 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,560 I don't think it's reasonable. I think it's silly and I think 696 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,280 we all need to grow up, quite frankly. 697 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,840 So I'll, I'll, I'll leave that there. 698 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,440 I agree. Yeah, yes, Sir. 699 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:08,720 Yes, Sir, yes, Sir. So we have the WWE and it's 700 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,560 going to be NXT. This time they are returning to 701 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,880 the ECW Arena, which is not the biggest venue in the world, but 702 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,280 it certainly is historic. You know, one of the places that 703 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,680 the the The Dudley Boys built, so to speak. 704 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,920 What are your thoughts on WWE running the ECW Arena again? 705 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,120 Well, I wouldn't say the Dudley boys built the ECW. 706 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,720 I would say we helped build the arena and establish the thing 707 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,680 that that's going on there over the years. 708 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,280 I think it's a great thing that WWE is going over there. 709 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,040 It gives those kids an idea to know where you know, the 710 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,320 attitude of how it was formed and where it was formed and how 711 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,640 it was made. And in front of those 712 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,480 Philadelphia fans, those fans are the most rabbit fans I think 713 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,720 I've ever experienced. They will tell you how they feel 714 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:01,960 in a heartbeat. You mess up. 715 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,880 God forbid they will let you know. 716 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,880 They used to say if you can make it if you go to Madison Square 717 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,920 Garden, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere, 718 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,320 which is true. But I think right on the tail 719 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,560 end of that is Philadelphia and the ECW Arena. 720 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680 If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. 721 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,200 Because just how important the ECW Arena was to pro wrestling 722 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,280 that nobody really knew back then. 723 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600 And now we realize it because of what has happened and 724 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,840 transpired, you know, during that. 725 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,320 But it's, it's, it's a great thing for these kids to go there 726 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,520 and to actually feel what it was like to be at the ECW Arena back 727 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,280 in the 90s and the things that we had done and accomplished and 728 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,080 made history there. Could you imagine going there 729 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,280 and somebody creating history for themselves? 730 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,280 You might as well just tag them all right on the building, put 731 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,800 them right on the building, and Yep, you know they're part of 732 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,880 history now. They whip everybody else, from 733 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,520 the Dudley's to the gangsters, to the Eliminators to Shane 734 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,440 Douglas, to Bam Bam Bigelow, ravishing Rick Rude, I mean the 735 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,240 list goes on and on of the stars that came out of the ECW Arena. 736 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,040 Now they make history there during NXT. 737 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,040 You can add their names right to the list. 738 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,640 Well said, well said. So definitely good luck to all 739 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,600 of the wonderful young people in the WWE who are going to have a 740 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,280 chance to make their own memories at the ECW Arena. 741 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520 It's special. It's definitely special. 742 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,480 And we'll be rooting on whatever you got going on there because 743 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,600 that venue, the fact that it's still standing is so important. 744 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,800 So many of the old venues no longer exist. 745 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,560 So that's a that's a piece of wrestling history that we 746 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,160 definitely have to Foster and continue to encourage. 747 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,200 So it sticks around, you know, till the end of our times at 748 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,160 least. That would be nice. 749 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,680 Certainly shout out. You know, Speaking of shout out, 750 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,280 we got we got some, we got a few important birthday shout outs. 751 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,480 And first and foremost, again, you know, thank you to Rodney 752 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,480 Mack. Rodney Mack heard what you said 753 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,520 about him and said, I, I love you, Devon. 754 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,800 So that was really nice. I don't know if you did you see 755 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,480 that on Instagram yet? Did you see that, Devon? 756 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,680 I have not seen it yet. Well, he he definitely felt that 757 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,440 your words about him were heartfelt and and he appreciated 758 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,760 that. So definitely, again, shout out 759 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:33,680 to Rodney Mack, the dude there. We have a young lady who she was 760 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:40,120 the first female to get a scholarship to wrestle coming 761 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,720 out of the state of Mississippi. And you know, in her at the high 762 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,720 school she was at, she was one of the first people to actually 763 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,320 be part of the 1st generation of a female wrestling team. 764 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,480 So she's currently a freshman at the University of Mount Olive 765 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,160 and she just celebrated her birthday. 766 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,720 Her name is Kaylee Savage, AKA the bug Kaylee Savage. 767 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,880 So I definitely wanted to give her a a special happy birthday, 768 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:17,200 Kaylee, and wish she and and her other fellow wrestling teammates 769 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,000 over at the university to Mount Olive. 770 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,720 Good luck this season and beyond. 771 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,200 But WWE Hall of Famer Devon Dudley, What do you have to say 772 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,280 to bug Kaylee Savage? Well, you said today's a 773 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,760 birthday. Happy birthday, Kaylee. 774 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,080 I hope you have many more and I hope you've enjoyed your trip 775 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,000 around the sun and enjoy many more. 776 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,640 And remember, keep testifying and get the tables. 777 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,480 That's right. That's right. 778 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,080 Certainly. And then we're going to get a 779 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,240 little personal with this one here. 780 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:50,600 Devon, we just had and, and they're only two days apart 781 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,280 their birthdays, which is just crazy. 782 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,120 Every year, it's always crazy. My mother and my sister both 783 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,080 celebrated a birthday last week. So you know what? 784 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,400 What do you have to say to the the family here, both 785 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,800 celebrating a birthday in October? 786 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,360 Well, again, congratulations to the family, congratulations to 787 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,600 mom and big sis. You know, let me ask you a 788 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,120 question. Who got beat up? 789 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,000 You. You did you beat your sister up 790 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000 or did she beat you up? Who practiced wrestling Moves on 791 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000 who? Oh man, you're going to get me 792 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,200 in trouble. Listen, this is now. 793 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,560 First of all, she's my younger sister, so let's make sure she 794 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,960 she might want to be big sis, but no, I'm, I'm the one in 795 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,480 charge here, damn it, But but you're going to get me in 796 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,040 trouble. She loves to to reminisce about 797 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,200 me practicing the figure four leg lock and then all kind of 798 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,600 the wrestling moves on her when we were kids and I I I thought 799 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,320 those memories had been, you know, suppressed and and and 800 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,200 disappeared in the thin air. But every now and then, 801 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,040 especially over the holidays, ironically, if if something go, 802 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,040 you know, she doesn't like I said something. 803 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,800 Remember that time when you did this to me and you put me in a 804 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,720 headlock and all this and, and, and you made me a of the 805 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,160 Undertaker and all this? So, So yeah, it was it was me 806 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,800 doing the wrestling moves to her and then begging her not to tell 807 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960 my mom. Well, Mom knows now. 808 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,880 Regardless of how old you are, you still can get your butt 809 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,120 whooped. You know how that goes. 810 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,360 Oh listen, I I know how that goes 100% and and listen, I 811 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,000 don't want no part of it. My mom, she was a law 812 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,440 enforcement officer for 37 years and trust me, if she got to 813 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,280 take, she could take you down D Vonage and and listen, she's 814 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,560 barely 5 feet tall, but that was that was her reputation. 815 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,400 She was she was well respected and appreciated and everyone 816 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,640 knew if she had to hem you up you didn't want it brother. 817 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,760 She she'd get you before you even knew it was happening. 818 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,600 So you ain't get me in trouble. I'm I know want to keep my mind. 819 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,720 What do you think me to respond on that? 820 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,520 Yeah, yeah. Just nothing to see here. 821 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,440 Yeah, nice try. You ain't getting me to respond 822 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,440 next. That's right. 823 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,680 Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along. 824 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,440 Just move along. It's funny. 825 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,240 What's going on? What's your, your, your next 826 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,520 grouping at the wrestling school there, Devon? 827 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,680 How's everything going with the training and what have you? 828 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880 It's going good. We had a really, really good day 829 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,960 yesterday. We were working on heat, you 830 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,520 know, getting heat on people because, you know, a lot of 831 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,200 people learn as time goes on, but if you give them something 832 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,440 to do and they're writing it down, then they're practicing it 833 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,680 in the ring. It kind of helps them to develop 834 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,200 that type of talent. And that was really, really good 835 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,360 yesterday. And I'm going to start doing 836 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,160 more things like that to move forward as opposed to just 837 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,600 trying to practice the moves and psychology. 838 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,720 You need to practice everything in general when you're doing it. 839 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,560 That's why I say it's important to find a wrestling school that 840 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,800 where somebody has been somewhere and has done 841 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,680 something. Because if you're just opening 842 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,080 up a warehouse and putting the ring inside of there when the 843 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,760 guy has never made it in the business himself, but yet he 844 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,200 thinks he can tell you how to make it, it's never going to 845 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,560 work. Because if he couldn't make it, 846 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,560 how the hell are you going to make it? 847 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Well said, well said. Forgive me. 848 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,360 They're they're doing some work outside, so you may hear a 849 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,240 little craziness in the background there, but well said. 850 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,040 I agree. You know that that's been my 851 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,600 point of contention with this concept of soft ground wrestling 852 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,600 over in Uganda, this group of kids who are practicing 853 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,640 wrestling moves and the videos are being distributed on YouTube 854 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,520 and it and it looks cool 'cause it's different. 855 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,520 I mean, they're, they're throwing each other around in, 856 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,880 in dirt. They call it soft ground. 857 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,560 They, they've been trying to get somebody to buy them a ring and 858 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,360 they did a whole GoFundMe and raised a whole bunch of money 859 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,480 and what have you come to find out, the guy who's running it is 860 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,440 some kind of international crime boss. 861 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,840 So that's a whole other issue with the, with the scheme of, of 862 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,440 soliciting GoFundMe money and getting it out of people and 863 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,640 maybe not using the money for what you originally said you 864 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,920 were going to use it for. But let me table him for a 865 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,440 second. Let me just focus on what these 866 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,520 kids are doing. I call them performers. 867 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,480 I say they're practicing wrestling moves, but they're not 868 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,440 pro wrestlers. They've never been properly 869 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,040 trained. They're not using proper 870 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,280 equipment. They don't even have a real 871 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,240 ring. So how are you going to call 872 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,320 yourself a a pro wrestler? It's just that's not the way it 873 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,120 works. If I if I boil some water, that 874 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,080 doesn't make me a chef. And I may not even done that 875 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,000 right, You know, So, you know, it's, it's, it's disrespectful, 876 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,720 quite frankly, to the industry and to folks like yourself, 877 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:40,440 Devon, who you gave your life to this business as a wrestler, 878 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,120 you're a Hall of Famer. And now you're giving back even 879 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,400 more as a trainer and a mentor and someone who is setting up 880 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,480 the next generation for success safely, by the way. 881 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,400 So for me to just throw myself around in in dirt and film it 882 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,160 and then call myself a wrestler, does that even make sense? 883 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,760 You know exactly so. So you have a lot of lot of them 884 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,360 out there is like that. Yeah, and, and unfortunately, 885 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,520 that's how they get themselves hurt. 886 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,880 I mean, look at the look at the kid. 887 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,240 I know we talked about New Jack in our early episode where he 888 00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:19,120 had that whole mass transit situation. 889 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,320 That kid wasn't properly trained right. 890 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,560 Right, absolutely. I mean, that's the way I like. 891 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,680 We can't have that. I mean, he, he passed away a 892 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,800 couple of years after the trial. Him and his dad passed. 893 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,400 Yeah, they both passed away. So, you know, it was never a 894 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,320 good thing to hear, you know, you know, I get, I still get 895 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,240 asked to this day about the mass, mass transit deal because 896 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,400 I was a part of it, you know, But, you know, it was something 897 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,040 that I wasn't proud to be a part of. 898 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,920 It was, you know, it was very gruesome and you know, I would 899 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080 hope that it would go away, but unfortunately it doesn't. 900 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,000 Well said. What won't go away is the fact 901 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,080 that anyone out there, if you're interested in learning how to 902 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,400 become a pro wrestler and being trained properly, especially be 903 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,960 one of the greatest of all times, one of the most 904 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,760 successful pro wrestling schools in existence, the proof is in 905 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,280 the pudding. You take a look at who's been 906 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,760 there and where they are today and you see it. 907 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,160 The proof is in the pudding. Devon Wrestling Academy. 908 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,680 How can they get in touch with you, Devon, and check out Devon 909 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,960 Wrestling Academy. Well, then go on Instagram or 910 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,360 testify Devon or Devon Dudley Academy. 911 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,600 Then go on Twitter and Facebook as well. 912 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,080 And you know, if you're looking forward to coming in and want to 913 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,640 test and see how you are, sign up, come on down. 914 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,000 We'll take you and make you what you want to be. 915 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,320 So come on down. That's right. 916 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,880 And if they want to keep up with you, especially if they want to 917 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,440 get more information about the wonderful event coming up this 918 00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:02,400 Sunday, your your the launch of the Natura Devon Dudley cigar 919 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,400 line there. What's the best way they can 920 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,120 check that out? Well, they could check that out 921 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:12,240 on Testify Devon. They could on Instagram, Testify 922 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,400 Devon on Twitter. I'm really looking forward to it 923 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,760 and it is, you know, going to be a happening. 924 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,840 It's at Fairway Cigar Lounge in Melbourne, FL and it starts at 925 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,240 3:00 PM. We have a contest going on as 926 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,520 well, a Halloween contest. The winner gets $500 and we also 927 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,560 have a car show going on there as well. 928 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,360 So come on out. It's going to be a fun event. 929 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,160 It's going to be the biggest event I think for Halloween 930 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,400 going on in Melbourne, FL. And again, you get to try my new 931 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,160 line of cigars coming out. That's right, that's right. 932 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,240 Definitely check it out, folks. If if you or any of your loved 933 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:53,000 ones partake in a fine cigar, then you definitely want to 934 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,240 check out Devon's event there. It's definitely going to be 935 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,560 special. Of course, folks, Duke loves 936 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,920 wrestling on Facebook, on Twitter, Duke loves 937 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,960 wrestling@gmail.com. Let me know what you think of 938 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,240 the show. Send in your questions. 939 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,040 We really appreciate the fact that you're enjoying what we're 940 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,320 doing here. It's it's a different, different 941 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,080 thing, different thing. Especially once again, to hear 942 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,760 Devon talk about life and provide some insights on things 943 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,000 that you know, he wishes he could have done differently or 944 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,120 things that he's learned throughout his journey. 945 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,400 And if we can help any of you young wrestlers or even 946 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,880 wrestlers who are experienced, we can help you make some 947 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,600 adjustments in your career and in your life to set you up for 948 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,080 success, then that makes the show worth it, Certainly. 949 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,960 So without further ado, let's get the Devon Dudley word of the 950 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,720 week. What do you got for us this 951 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:45,160 week, bro? Yeah. 952 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,840 OK, no matter how hard it gets, never quit. 953 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,720 A man's greatest strength is his determination to keep going. 954 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,920 Testify. Take it away, Tony Shivani. 955 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,400 Tony Shivani and we're definitely out of time on Duke 956 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,200 Love Wrestling.