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Welcome back to another 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,080 fantastic edition of the Devon of the Duke podcast. 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,720 This is a limited edition series hosted by your main man. 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Duke loves wrestling and of course the five time Hall of 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,280 Famer. Legitimately an icon, a legend 16 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,880 and word on the street a good guy. 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,720 We're talking about the what? The only brother, Devon Dudley. 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,680 How you doing that Devon? Good, good, not bad, not bad at 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,320 all. How about yourself? 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,440 Brother, I'll tell you right now, man, I, I, if I complained, 21 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,760 I'd be taking advantage. I, you know, the, the, the, I 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,120 got food in my belly. The lights are on and I'm still 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,080 walking on the surf, so I guess I'm doing all right. 24 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,400 You know, that's what people have to understand. 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,080 As long as you have a loop over your heads, food on the table, 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,560 clothes on your back, don't complain. 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Don't complain, man, because it could all be taken away just 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,440 like that, you know what I mean? That's just the truth of it. 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,640 That's just the truth. You know what I find I I find 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,400 interesting and I enjoy it when it happens and it happens damn 31 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,800 near everyday. The amount of people who reach 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,840 out and genuinely say, Hey man, Devon is a really good guy. 33 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Like I met him at such and such or, you know, I saw him here and 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,520 I talked to him and this and that. 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 He's a really good guy. And it's, it's, it's so 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,640 interesting how people feel compelled to say that out loud, 37 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:24,240 like that's a, it's a thing that matters enough to them that they 38 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,640 want to share it. And it makes me realize, wow, 39 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,600 how many, how many not so good guys do you run into who are 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,160 celebrities where when you finally come across a good guy, 41 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,560 it's something that you, you want to actually tell other 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,760 people about. So it's, it's, it's interesting, 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,960 man. I mean, how does it, how does it 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,800 feel? How does it feel to continue to 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,240 have that type of reputation? Well, I like to keep it because 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,160 I've been in this business long enough to know how it can change 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,480 overnight. And, you know, it's just 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,920 something that always, always seems to be the case. 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,120 You know, it's just, it's still funny how people can have their 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:18,400 own opinion on how other people are, but yet, you know, the, 51 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:24,000 the, the ones that reject the what they say is the ones that 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,040 need the most help, Those are the ones that cause the most, 53 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,720 you know, mischief. And then they wonder why their 54 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,680 reputation is the way it is. Great point, great point. 55 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,040 And in addition to that, we're all just one cell phone video 56 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,440 or, or you know, one negative review away from the world 57 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,600 believing that we're not such a good guy, right? 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Oh, especially on social media. Yeah, yeah, it's true. 59 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Especially on social media. I bring this up because Oscar, 60 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Oscar, you know W I'm going to say it. 61 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,000 She's AWWE legend. We can, we can we can say that 62 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 she's won so many titles. She's accomplished so much. 63 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,600 I love the way that she wrestles. 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:23,080 I love the person that she expresses herself to be online. 65 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,800 You know when she's doing things other than wrestling. 66 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 She she has a really interesting YouTube channel where she's 67 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:31,560 eating different snacks and playing video games and stuff. 68 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,120 She's she she's a cool person. I like her vibe. 69 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,160 She was online because she's been out injured. 70 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,600 So she has some time and she's been interacting with the fans 71 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,960 and stuff and I think she finally has gotten her her 72 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,160 translator is accurate as it can be. 73 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,600 So she's making you know, she's communicating a lot more 74 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,160 recently than ever before. But I'm going to throw this at 75 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,920 you because she, she posted this earlier today and I quote, I 76 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,600 just learned about the existence of a review site called Cage 77 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Match. I've never actually, I've never 78 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,080 actively searched for wrestling information online aside from 79 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,200 occasionally seeing it pop up on my Twitter timeline. 80 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,120 To be honest, I'm not interested in anything that I don't 81 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,640 experience in real life. I've never thought about 82 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,840 changing my wrestling style based on fan opinions. 83 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,760 The only thing that matters to me is whether my creativity 84 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,760 works or not. That's why I never bother 85 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,840 checking how my matches are rated by the public. 86 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,960 That sounds like a massive hassle. 87 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,480 I've never even thought about doing that before. 88 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,880 What I do think about after a match is what delicious food I'm 89 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,840 going to eat tomorrow. End Quote. 90 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Is this Austin? Yeah, that's Oscar. 91 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,440 That's that's on her, her Facebook, I mean, excuse me, her 92 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Twitter account. And and this is not unlike what 93 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,200 she's been tweeting recently. She's really been letting fans 94 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,960 know that she doesn't care about the dirt sheets. 95 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,320 She doesn't care about websites like cagematch.net, which track 96 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,280 matches that wrestlers had and fans, they rate the matches and 97 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:21,720 all this other stuff. She's letting the fans know 98 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,040 that, look, if you want to interact with me about life and 99 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,320 video games and food, you know, things that I'm actually 100 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,720 interested in, fine. But telling me how to wrestle 101 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,160 and let me know that only got a two star match, according to 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,680 Meltzer. And she's like, I don't care 103 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,520 about that stuff. That's that's the gist of what 104 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,920 she's been saying to people recently. 105 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,240 So I want to get your take on that, Devon, Right? 106 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,920 Well, good. I don't think any, I don't think 107 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,640 anybody should be worrying about what the fans say or dirt sheet 108 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,720 riders say because they're all full of shit. 109 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,600 Listen, if they could do what, if they could do what you do, 110 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,640 then they would be there doing it. 111 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 But they can't. So they live vicariously from 112 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,280 people who are in the business. And the thing about it is, if 113 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,800 you're going to be a mock and you know, then know your place, 114 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,240 know your role. Well, now I was going to say 115 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,600 that, you know, there's a fine line between being a consumer 116 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,160 and pointing out what you like, right? 117 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,000 I don't like flippy matches and stuff like that. 118 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Every now and then it's OK, But for the most part, I want 119 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,120 matches that tell a story. That's what interests me, right? 120 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,880 There's a difference between saying something like that and 121 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,680 then going down the line of, oh, that was a one star match and 122 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,960 this one sucked and this and this and it's like, who the hell 123 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,120 are you again? What? 124 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,760 If you never done anything in the business, nowhere near what 125 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,720 that person should be, then don't open your mouth. 126 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,520 It's just as simple as that. Don't open your mouth. 127 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,040 You have no right to say anything. 128 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,800 That's the way I feel. Don't you know? 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Don't. This person sucks. 130 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,800 That person sucks. I'm sorry you're nowhere near 131 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,560 the level that you're on. Someone once told me and it 132 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,360 stayed with me for a while and I thought about, they said, think 133 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,680 about it. The guys in the NBA, the ones 134 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,040 who sit on the bench who never really want to see time, they're 135 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,680 real good. But just think about how good 136 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,960 the person who's starting or go in and out of the games, realize 137 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,120 how good there are, how good they are. 138 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,920 So the people that are sitting on the bench, you know, it's 139 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,320 just unfortunate. They're great, but they got 140 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,760 people that are even better than them. 141 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,400 So, you know, they don't just put people on who sit on a bench 142 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,400 all the time. They don't just have them on the 143 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,679 team just to fill up space. They just wasn't good enough to 144 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,320 replace the guys that are on first string or second string. 145 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,880 You know, I, I've been fortunate enough that I've been to 146 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,360 basketball trainings during summer camps when I was a 147 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,120 youngster with guys like Dana Barrows taking the time to come 148 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,920 and show us, you know, basic dribbling and things like that. 149 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,760 Dana Barrows, you know, he was a starter for the Boston Celtics 150 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 and and he played for a bunch of other teams and what have you as 151 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,040 well. But you're absolutely right. 152 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,200 Now listen, Dana Barrows was never Michael Jordan. 153 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,800 He, he, he was never Charles Barkley. 154 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,040 He was never Larry Bird excuse. Me there was only 1 bird and one 155 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:27,200 magic and 1:00 Michael. Yeah, but Dana Barrows was 156 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,520 better than everybody else walking in the Commonwealth of 157 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Massachusetts at that time. Like, come on, You know what I 158 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,960 mean? So you're absolutely right. 159 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,600 It's like we have no idea how great a person has to be just to 160 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,400 even get on the bench, never mind be a starter in a superstar 161 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,200 or a legend. Let me just say this, I saw the 162 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,000 match between Gunther and Tazawa this past Monday. 163 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Phenomenal, Phenomenal Gunter is very, very good, no question. 164 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,840 But people don't realize how good Tazawa is, how he added to 165 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,840 that match. And I always said people like 166 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Tazawa and Funaki and Tajiri, and there happened to be all 167 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,600 three Japanese wrestlers, but how good they are. 168 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,960 They might not have been The Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin, 169 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,320 but they were good at what they did in terms of making people 170 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,120 look good. That match between Gunter and 171 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,640 and Tavawa, my God, it was an I. My hat went off even more to 172 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Tavawa. That's how good he is. 173 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,640 He made Gunter look like 1,000,000 bucks even though 174 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Gunter didn't mean it, but he still made him look like 175 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,480 1,000,000 bucks. And and this is somebody in 176 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Tazawa that you actually have been an agent for. 177 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,280 So you know first hand, top to bottom, how good that guy is. 178 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Well I agent to valor when I was a producer and I worked with him 179 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,120 as talent. Some of my best matches, yes 180 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,240 they were the Hardy and edging Christian. 181 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,920 But single, single match wise, I've had single matches with the 182 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Rock. I had single matches with with 183 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Orton and Cena but nothing compared to Kanaki. 184 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Funaki was one-of-a-kind. What, what was it so much about 185 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,320 Funaki that that makes you say that? 186 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,320 I mean, was it just the fact that he understood his role and 187 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,080 and how to keep himself over enough to get you over? 188 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Not only did he understand his role, but he was very good at 189 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,080 his role. He knew how to put other people 190 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,200 over and make himself and make them look good, but he also knew 191 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,240 how to make himself look good in the process of it. 192 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Deep, deep. Because if if you beat a nobody, 193 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,080 you beat a nobody, So what? But if you beat a guy who who is 194 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,320 somebody and and is able to keep himself somebody, then that's a 195 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,520 big deal. I agree 100%. 196 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Well, definitely shout out to Shofunaki, shout out to to 197 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:09,160 Jerry, shout out to Tazawa, you know you guys and and shout out 198 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,360 to Oscar. I mean, legitimately, these are 199 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,720 these are legends in their own right on on many different 200 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,080 levels there. And I'm proud of Oscar in 201 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,640 particular for speaking up and letting these fans know that 202 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,440 they're overstepping their bounds and she ain't going to 203 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,560 put up with it. I love it. 204 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,960 I'll talk. Talk your stuff, sister. 205 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Not to mention, you know, in terms of Oscar, I was a big fan 206 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,200 of Oscars, and when I saw her stuff in Japan, I was even more 207 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,280 bigger fan because how good Oscar really was. 208 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,080 Oscar is Oscar is very good. Yeah, you know what I'm telling. 209 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,080 Well, she is she is she she's tough as nails, no two ways 210 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,320 about it. And I I always pick up on the 211 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,960 fact that if she gets stiffed in the ring, she going to stiff you 212 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,800 right back and you going to feel it. 213 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Oh, you know what it'd. Be well, you heard OO gonna hurt 214 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 your back, there's no question. Yeah, yeah, she ain't playing 215 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:10,720 that. And and I love that about her 216 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,920 because that's the way it should be. 217 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,560 You know, respect has to be the foundation of everything. 218 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Let me ask you this, because this I am curious about this. 219 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Devon, Oscar's not some skinny, you know, big breasted blonde. 220 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,800 She's not a diva. She, she's a, she's an actual 221 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,800 wrestler, Gorgeous as hell, obviously, but she's, she's also 222 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,440 one of the best wrestlers on the roster and has been everywhere 223 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,480 she goes. She won a lot of championships 224 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,960 throughout her career and she's been featured as a, as a top 225 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,040 star throughout and what have you. 226 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,000 A lot of people would say Vince McMahon. 227 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,520 You know, he the, the way that he would book people. 228 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,960 He would only go for a particular aesthetic. 229 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Yet Oscar accomplished so much in her career while Vince was in 230 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,040 charge. What do you make of that? 231 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Well, I think Vince knew just exactly how good Oscar was and 232 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,200 it to this day, there's nobody there. 233 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,240 You'd have to fill some big shoes in order to be anywhere 234 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,160 near in the same category as OO just that good. 235 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,240 And that's what a lot of people don't get or understand how good 236 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Oscar really is. And you know, I was always a big 237 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,200 fan of hers and you know, I was in, I was really impressed by 238 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,840 her work and what she was able to do. 239 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,800 He will get some phenomenal wrestler and a phenomenal 240 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,800 individual. Very sweet girl, spending time, 241 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,520 loves her family, very respectful. 242 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,040 I had nothing but good words for Oscar. 243 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Well said. Well said again. 244 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,640 Shout out to Oscar. You definitely check out her 245 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 YouTube channel when you get a chance, folks, if you want to 246 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,480 see something that's just completely different from what 247 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:14,640 most would expect because she's not she, she's literally trying 248 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,240 snacks and, and, and going shopping and showing her 249 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,480 experience and what have you and, and, you know, making 250 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,760 different foods, maybe stuff she's never tried before. 251 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,880 It's just interesting to, to, to get a glimpse into this, this 252 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,520 person's life and see that they're pretty normal human 253 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,600 being, you know what I mean? It's, it's the same notion like 254 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,760 what, what you Devon, where people love the life lessons 255 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,320 that you're always instilling. You know what I mean? 256 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,000 You can't help yourself. You're going to, you're going to 257 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,360 give life lessons when, when you're talking and what have 258 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,520 you. And it's always stuff that's 259 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,320 worth paying attention to. The man behind the persona, you 260 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,000 know, it's, it's, it's awesome. So that's, that's good stuff 261 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 there. Speaking of good stuff, 262 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:07,360 congratulations to TKO, the parent company of WWE and UFC. 263 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:15,000 They just put out their full year 2024 results and and also 264 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,520 their fourth quarter results for 2024. 265 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:25,080 And listen, the main idea here is revenue of $2.8 billion 266 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:33,320 billion would AB net income of $6.4 million, Adjusted EBITDA of 267 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,440 $1.25 billion. So the main idea is when they 268 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:47,680 purchased WWE late in 2023, that resulted in a loss on their 269 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,240 books, right? They were, they were actually 270 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,960 negative because you made a big purchase. 271 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Well, they've recovered all of that money within a year and 272 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:04,520 added on top of it. So they got a 67% revenue 273 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,760 increase and all just just crazy, crazy stuff overall, 274 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:13,800 which translate into these guys are doing something right the 275 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,960 the way that they're running the WWE, the way that they're 276 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,560 running UFC, which really is let the let the people with the 277 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,760 experience. Dana White and the UF CS example 278 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,560 and you know, Nick Con and Triple H combined in, in the WW 279 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,240 ES case. Let the people with experience 280 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,560 do what they do best and just get the hell out of their way. 281 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,440 A system what they need assistance with, especially on 282 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,320 the business side. But other than that, just get 283 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,160 out of their way because they know what they're doing. 284 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,920 And when you do that, just watch the money continue to stack. 285 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,800 So what, what do you think about that there, Devon? 286 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Just TKO continuing to show that they know how to make money. 287 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Well, the bottom line is, if they're making that much profit, 288 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,120 can you please start giving comp tickets back? 289 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,320 Can you please lower the ticket prices for Wrestlemanias and all 290 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,320 these other events? Good God, it's almost impossible 291 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,160 now to afford to go to a WWE show. 292 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,160 Yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're reaching that level, you know, 293 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,000 because they, they've reduced their house show schedule, so 294 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,280 they're not touring as much on the House show front. 295 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,360 So because of that, you can charge more when they finally 296 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,200 do, you know, show up in your, your area. 297 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,200 But like you said, we're we're starting to get to a point where 298 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,120 we're pricing a significant amount of the fans out and 299 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,960 that's never fun to see. Yeah, the comp you, you brought 300 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,520 up the comp tickets. So I got to ask you this 301 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,600 because, you know, on a personal level, what's the story with the 302 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,480 comp tickets, man? Well. 303 00:18:55,360 --> 00:19:01,280 Apparently they don't give any more comps anymore, and if they 304 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:07,640 do, it's got to be real special. Somebody, you know, like the 305 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,440 football players, the rappers, things like that. 306 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 But for ordinary people, yeah, they don't do it anymore. 307 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,960 So previously when I say previously, I'm not talking back 308 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,840 in the day, I'm talking let's say within the past six years, 309 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,320 let's say based on what you know, what's what's normally 310 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,960 been the policy before it changed. 311 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,160 Well you call, you know you call the office or what have you say 312 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,200 hey you know, you mind if I'll get like 3 comp tickets from 313 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,440 somebody? Shit, no, no problem. 314 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,520 What's the names? Believe them at will call. 315 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,960 They don't do that anymore. Wow, wow. 316 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,920 I, I mean, hey, why give it away if you can sell it and, and 317 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,440 somebody's going to pay for it? I guess that's the idea, right? 318 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,840 And that's, you know, that's, that's from a business aspect. 319 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Absolutely. Well, you can't fault them on 320 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,160 that. Nope, Nope, not at all. 321 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Not at all. And and listen, it's not as if 322 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:09,200 live event ticket sales are. That big of a deal for the 323 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,960 company. I mean, they're making their 324 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,800 money primarily off of their television deals and and now 325 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,200 their brand partnerships. I mean, they got, they got 326 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,120 sponsors on the mats and, and on the ring post and, and all over 327 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,800 the place. They're, they're doing all of 328 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,960 these different deals. They're expanding, they're doing 329 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,320 shows on Tubi now they're going to be expanding with Netflix, 330 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,400 they're on A&E. It's like they have all these 331 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,840 different revenue streams that are happening at the same time, 332 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,320 which is all new money, by the way. 333 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,680 This is not stuff that they were doing before. 334 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,440 So there's still a lot more juice to squeeze out of that, 335 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,800 even if the ticket sales start to go South because they've kind 336 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,160 of priced people out. It's, it's just fascinating to 337 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,840 watch the business of WWE and, and you know, now their parent 338 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,640 company TKO. It's fascinating to see the 339 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,960 shifts that they do in order to to continue to be able to say, 340 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,760 hey, we made record profits again. 341 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,720 So I don't know. But I'm with you brother, 342 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,840 because those, those average ticket prices are a little 343 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,280 steep. They're a little. 344 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,680 Steep Yeah, You know, I don't, I don't wrestle no more when I got 345 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,720 kids. So I'm just saying I'm trying to 346 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,120 make a dollar out of $0.50 and. And you can't just say I got 347 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,680 kids. You got a, you got a whole damn 348 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,960 basketball team of kids, man. So, you know, you, you out what, 349 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,600 2-3 grand if you were to try to take the whole family to an 350 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,120 event, right? Now we watch it at home for 351 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:47,880 Netflix 899. You won't see my black ass 352 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,880 there, I tell you that much. The the the the the beer and the 353 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,280 food is a lot cheaper at home anyway, so I you know it is what 354 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,960 it is. That's why you got to pay for 355 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,000 the tickets, pay for the parking and just pay for the food and 356 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,920 the drinks and all that because you know Junior, you know, 357 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,480 Junior's a big, you know, you're going to be asking for two and 358 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:15,160 three and four hot dogs. Bro the the at at AWWE event 359 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,240 here in Boston right? Even if it's just a raw or 360 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,280 something like that. The average cost for one hot dog 361 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,760 is around 10 bucks. 10 bucks for a single hot dog man. 362 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,440 Yeah. That is absolutely insane to me, 363 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,880 and I'm not even talking like a chili dog or one of them fancy 364 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,680 joints. I'm just talking about a hot dog 365 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560 on a bun. Put your own condiments on top 366 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,120 of it that over there at the the open station where the onions 367 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:47,720 and the sauerkraut and all that stuff is. 368 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,760 But 10 bucks for a damn hot dog? Come on guys. 369 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Yeah, that's the way. That's the way it is at 370 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,480 Madison's Green Garden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 371 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,680 You know, I mean, back in the day, they didn't check your bag 372 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,200 when you came in like that, you know, but I remember my mother 373 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 used to make all of these sandwiches, put them in her, you 374 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320 know, what we thought was her purse. 375 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,960 And you know, it was her. It was her soup cooler. 376 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,600 You know, she would hide all the food up in there and all the 377 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280 snacks and the Jesus walk in there. 378 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,320 We wouldn't have to buy anything. 379 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,320 But of course, you know, you see that popcorn running by, the 380 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,440 cotton candy or what have you, and you wanted it, you know? 381 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,680 Sure, sure. And you had to have a souvenir 382 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560 cup, especially if it was the hologram cups. 383 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,080 You remember those? Right. 384 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,360 You had to come home with something now. 385 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,640 That was it. That was at least 15 bucks right 386 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520 there. 15 to 20 bucks. Easily, yeah. 387 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Yeah, that's 'cause it was the cup. 388 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,680 It was the cup. Yeah, yeah. 389 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,680 It's funny, you know, I don't, I don't collect a lot. 390 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,640 I'm not into the collecting the memorabilia, which I kick myself 391 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,760 for that because I've had so many things through the years 392 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,200 and I've given it away, whatever. 393 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,120 I gave all my action figures away, for instance. 394 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,360 But man, I still have some cups that are like at least 15 years 395 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,640 old just from going to live events and stuff like that. 396 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,280 And, and I, I make sure I still use them, especially during 397 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,040 WrestleMania, just because it just feels good to, to have that 398 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:19,080 memory. But if, if the cup is $20.00, I 399 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:26,720 don't know, you know, one plastic cup, I don't know, man, 400 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960 I don't know. That's, that's a little tough. 401 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,000 But hey, regardless, once again, congratulations, TKO. 402 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,200 You guys are making money hand over fist. 403 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,160 Keep it going. But like Devon said, if you can 404 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520 find a way to bring these, these ticket prices down, you don't 405 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,920 want to price out your core audience. 406 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,320 That's pro wrestling should never be a rich man's luxury. 407 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,040 So I'll just put it like that, you know, Speaking of a rich 408 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:01,480 man, absolutely Vince McMahon, there's speculation that he's 409 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,760 been calling some folks on the production side who, you know, 410 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,040 may not necessarily be shooting wrestling right now. 411 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,440 So calling different cameramen and, and people who do that type 412 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,440 of back of the house stuff and inquiring, hey, would you be 413 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,200 interested if, if I, if I launch another promotion, a wrestling 414 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,520 promotion, is that something that you would be interested in 415 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,160 being part of? So this is starting to gain a 416 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,640 gain a little steam here. People are whispering and some 417 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,360 credible people like Eric Bischoff have cosigned this that 418 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,320 he's heard the same whispers, so to speak. 419 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,120 So what say you here, Devon? I mean do you think the the 420 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,640 industry could handle another promotion? 421 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:54,440 What do you think of that idea? Well, I mean, my thing is, if 422 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Vince opens up another one, who does he have with him? 423 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Who are, Who's his Pat Patterson? 424 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,360 Who's his Michael Hayes? You know, don't get me wrong, 425 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:11,920 Vince built the empire, but he had help along the way. 426 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,320 You know, you know, you had to have those, those minds that 427 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:25,880 pretty much was able to tell Vince no, that, you know, he, he 428 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,360 wasn't, it wasn't a good idea what happened. 429 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 But you know, he doesn't have that now. 430 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,200 You know, Pat Patterson unfortunately passed away. 431 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,080 Michael still works for WWE, so he doesn't have somebody to tell 432 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,240 him no. So if he does open up another 433 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,160 company and he'd be as successful as he was when he was 434 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,400 with the WWE, there's a possibility he can be. 435 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,120 But I just don't know. I don't know, You know, we don't 436 00:26:54,120 --> 00:27:00,960 realize how many factors that he had in his corner to help him 437 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,440 out when he did run the WWE. It wasn't just Vince alone. 438 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,480 Great point, great point. And how many of those guys are 439 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,880 even out there these days? So it's like it's, it's a, it's 440 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,240 pretty tough to be, to be able to find the creative minds that 441 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,120 can help you build from scratch. It's, it's one thing to have 442 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,640 something that already exists and they're just adding to it. 443 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,640 But to build from scratch on that scale, that's a, that's a 444 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,200 tough mountain to climb, man. That's a tough mountain to 445 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,680 climb, you know. So it'll be interesting. 446 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,600 Do you think if this actually continues to gain steam even 447 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,960 before it gets launched, if it even gets to that point? 448 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,680 But if it if the whispers keep happening, do you think that WWE 449 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,600 will start locking people down, especially their their creative 450 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,920 folks? You think they'll start locking 451 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680 people down the longer term contracts? 452 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Let me just say this, I think a lot of people were scared of 453 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,600 vents. A lot of people didn't like 454 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960 vents and some of the things he was doing. 455 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,080 I don't know. I mean, if the money is good and 456 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,720 you know, they, whatever, I, I think people would jump ship. 457 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,280 It'd be like Ted Turner and Vince, you know, like WCW and WV 458 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000 all over again. But there are a lot of people 459 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,760 that were still angry with Vince and how their career went and 460 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,560 things like that. And there's a lot of people in 461 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,200 WWE right now that that are really stinging the praises of 462 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,880 Triple H. And I'm happy that Vince is 463 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,840 going. So I don't know. 464 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,760 I don't know if he'll be able to pull it like that. 465 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,320 I mean, again, he might, he might not. 466 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680 I don't know. But I do know, like I said, that 467 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,760 he's going to have to shut out a lot of money to convince people 468 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,480 that it's cool to work for him again. 469 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,320 Well said. Well said. 470 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Listen, good luck to anybody out there who is serious about 471 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,440 launching a wrestling promotion and and trying to compete. 472 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,840 If you're going to create more financial opportunities for 473 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,200 folks, that's always a good thing. 474 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520 But just make sure you're doing it for the right reasons. 475 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Because if you show up and then you end up fizzling out, what 476 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,880 was the point of that? You know what I mean? 477 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,720 So it's it's got to be serious and it's got to be something 478 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,600 that you you intend to invest in for the foreseeable future and 479 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,400 beyond. So I'll just leave it at that. 480 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880 But time will tell. Time will tell on that front 481 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,880 there. Interesting note here. 482 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,720 We had Naomi and Bianca Bellaire who were the tag team champs. 483 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,880 I think they held the title for what, 73 days, which is nothing 484 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,760 to sneeze at. Originally it was Bianca and 485 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,240 Jade, but Jade was quote, UN quote, attacked and she's been 486 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,960 out since then injured. Nobody knows who attacked her. 487 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,080 So that's still a storyline that has yet to be fully realized, so 488 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,680 to speak. But Liv Morgan and and Raquel, 489 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,720 they're now three time WWE tag team champions. 490 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:19,680 But for Naomi and Bianca, Bianca tweeted out, I'm so proud of us 491 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040 after that loss, which I thought was interesting. 492 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,680 And she did an interview recently where Bianca was 493 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,800 talking about how Naomi has taught her take your ego out of 494 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,800 it, take your egos out of the whole WWE business and, and just 495 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,520 focus on, you know, helping others get over, keep yourself 496 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280 strong and get over and, and, and, you know, just trying to 497 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,600 make the best out every situation that you have there. 498 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,120 What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on on 499 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040 these two women, not only as a team but individually, Bianca 500 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,160 and and Naomi. I like it. 501 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,720 I was getting used to Jade and Bianca, but now, now I'm using 502 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,200 the mix. I kind of like it. 503 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,040 I wish they had a six man tag team or six women tag team belt 504 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,480 so then all three of them can have that. 505 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Like like the free birds. Did you know the six man and the 506 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,600 Von Erichs? I mean, that would be cool, you 507 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,720 know, they have something like that, but I don't know. 508 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,080 I like the combination of Naomi and Bianca, but I think people 509 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,880 are still wanting to see Bianca and Jade go back together 510 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,920 because they were very powerful. Two big, strong women. 511 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,960 When I say big, I don't mean it in a bad way. 512 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,280 I mean in a great way. Strong and athletic as hell, you 513 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,800 know? It's just hard for me to think 514 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:44,800 that we'd have it any other way. Yeah, I mean, you know, the, the 515 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,960 closest that we've gotten to something like this really was 516 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,240 was Sasha Banks and and Bailey, which they were the the first 517 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,760 iteration of the, the current generation of WWE women's tag 518 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,760 team champions. They they were the ones who 519 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,720 ushered in the belts back years ago. 520 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,000 The WWF had a a women's tag team division at one point and there 521 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,440 was a belt and all that good stuff. 522 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,000 And that got put to rest, so Sasha and Bailey brought it 523 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,400 back, so to speak. We and and they did a fine job. 524 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:26,680 I, I, I really love the way that Bianca has kind of transitioned 525 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:34,200 into an elder stateswoman where her, her position is, is solid. 526 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,000 She doesn't have to worry. She doesn't have to look over 527 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,440 her shoulder. She, she's a legend. 528 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 You know what I mean? You main event WrestleMania and, 529 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,600 and you do all these things, you form a women's champion now, 530 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680 former tag team champion, like you're a legend, You're good. 531 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,280 You're, you're solid. History has you in the books. 532 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,880 So doing what she has to do in order to build up others around 533 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,280 her and make that division stronger and being a mentor, not 534 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,120 unlike what Charlotte did for her, not unlike what Natty did 535 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080 for Charlotte. It's just very interesting to 536 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,720 see the way that Bianca has carried herself the last couple 537 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,720 of years and the fact that she's crediting Naomi for helping her 538 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,000 get her her mentality straight and understand, hey, this is 539 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,080 bigger than you. A lot of people, they had to do 540 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440 a lot in order for you to be who you are today. 541 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,880 A lot of people lay down so you can get over. 542 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Now it's time for you to start giving some of that back. 543 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,040 And Bianca being mature enough to, to receive that and then 544 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,040 apply it. I just think she's a, she's a, a 545 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,040 compliment to the business. I think she's fantastic. 546 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,440 And I've always loved Naomi. I think she has matured into a 547 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,520 true leader in her own right and I'm over the moon about her as 548 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,360 well, man. So I just, I don't know, I, I 549 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,760 got a lot of time for the both of them. 550 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080 I think they they are doing it the way that it should be done, 551 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,360 very unselfish, very secure. And I just, I don't know, I love 552 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,199 it, man. I love it because because we've 553 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,480 seen the opposite so many times. Right when? 554 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:20,560 I we've seen the. Opposite, you know, and it's, 555 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,760 it's ironic because Devon, everything that I just said 556 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,239 about them is exactly how you carried yourself towards the end 557 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,880 of your last run, like your last five years in the business in 558 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,960 particular, that's exactly what you were doing, right. 559 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Yeah, pretty much. I mean, it went by so quick too. 560 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,239 Good God did I feel old as shit. But still. 561 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,120 Oh my God, I'm like God, can we do it one more time? 562 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Please, one more time, one more time 1. 563 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:54,679 More time. And then after that one more 564 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:56,440 time is over, I'm going to say it one more time again. 565 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,360 That's like when the fan came and said, Devon and you and 566 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,320 Bubba just go on the ring one more time with the harness. 567 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,840 I said, yeah. And you know what's going to 568 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,600 happen after the one more time, five years later down the line, 569 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,840 it's going to be said again. Can you go back in there again? 570 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,560 And again I'm like, y'all trying to kill me, you know, I can only 571 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,160 take so much. God didn't intend to us to get 572 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,520 in the damn ring and go all four corners to beat the hell out of 573 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,600 each other. Are you sure about that? 574 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,360 I'm. Positive because he made our 575 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,160 bodies a lot stronger than what it is. 576 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,200 Because, and I ask you that question because you know the 577 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,440 Hardy Boys, they were on NXT this week. 578 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,600 They showed up as a TNA Tag team champions. 579 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:49,640 They took on Miles born in Tabian Heights and let me tell 580 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,720 you something, the way that Matt Hardy was talking trash couple 581 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,680 weeks back about you and Bubba and and claiming that they're 582 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,800 the best and they're going to show you they're the best and 583 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,800 this and that and this and that. Now they show up in NXT and they 584 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,520 start smacking up some of them young boys. 585 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Are you sure, Devon, that God didn't intend for you to go and 586 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,200 kick their ass one more time? I mean, I ain't saying that. 587 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,480 I'm not going to say never. I'm just saying, you know, the 588 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,400 Hardy's got hurt to be great on NXT and you know, there was 589 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,960 Rumble about us joining again. I told him. 590 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,480 I said, well, you know, we'll have to see. 591 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,000 I, I think, I think Matt Hardy is yellow. 592 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,840 I think he is an egg sucking yellow so and so because he want 593 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,320 to go and smack up the young boys. 594 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,400 I I thought you were supposed to be coming after the legends. 595 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,400 I thought you were supposed to be proving you're number one in 596 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,160 history. So So what are you doing 597 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,800 smacking up the young boys? You know what I'm saying? 598 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,160 I don't know, man, that that seems like a sleight of hand to 599 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,440 me. You know, step up to. 600 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,680 The big dogs bro, you might get your wish. 601 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,320 Oh, oh, oh. Breaking news here. 602 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Breaking news. What, what, what, what is your 603 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,800 take on this? This thing with TNAI mean we've, 604 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,400 we've had enough time now, WWE and TNA collaborating with each 605 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,640 other and we're seeing not only people who remain under TNA 606 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,120 contract showing up in NXT, showing up in the in the Royal 607 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:31,200 Rumble, but we also see some of the WWE stars going over to TNA 608 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,000 and doing, in fact, Oba Femi, who is the current NXT champion, 609 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,080 he, he's going to be on TNA on this day that we record here to 610 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,440 get back in Moose's face. What what's your overall take on 611 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,000 the way that that partnership has been going in comparison to 612 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,200 the TNA and AEW partnership from a few years back? 613 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,400 Well, I'm going to say this. Honey knows how to do it, you 614 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,560 know, which shows me Honey knows how to do business. 615 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,720 And Tony, the other, let me ask you this. 616 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:12,560 And you AW Marks can say whatever you want to say without 617 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,120 the money that he has. In terms of Tony Kahn, do you 618 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:24,080 honestly think that he could run the AW, the AW, wait, listen to 619 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,800 me, AW, the way it's being run now, do you think it would 620 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,480 actually be around or even have the little bit of fans that they 621 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,840 do have? No, not, not at all. 622 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,200 No, no, no, no way. It's because of the money that's 623 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,840 even keeping him afloat right now. 624 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:51,720 So, you know, I just don't feel like Tony has the business 625 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:56,080 smarts to collaborate with somebody like a TNA to be able 626 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:03,800 to bring forth what Triple H is doing now with TNA, it's all 627 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,480 about business, making the right decisions and doing the right 628 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,280 thing in my opinion. Sorry, Tony, but you don't have 629 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,720 it. Not at all. 630 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,440 You're not. I mean, you're not Hannah. 631 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,440 Look at what what Tony is doing with Ring of Honor, which bear 632 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,120 in mind, folks, Ring of Honor is owned by Tony. 633 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200 It's not owned by Shad. It's owned by Tony Kahn. 634 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,080 That's, that's the wrestling company he owns. 635 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,000 It's, you know, AW is technically owned by Shad and a 636 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,720 few other investors. Now Tony argues that, well, 637 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,960 that's technically his inheritance money that's being 638 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,720 used. So he's an owner too, but it's 639 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:47,120 not the same as what his, his, his actual business is with ROH, 640 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,720 where he truly is the owner of that Ring of Honor just 641 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,720 celebrated, celebrated 25 years of existence. 642 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,360 And, and listen, I was at the first Ring of Honor show. 643 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,880 I was, I was one of the people that they used to figure out how 644 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,640 to build that card because of the, you know, the tapes and the 645 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,560 DVDs and the chatter online. And, you know, they were using 646 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,480 US as market research in order to understand who we wanted to 647 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,400 see on that first card. The company today is a shell of 648 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,840 itself. It's a disaster and it's not 649 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,760 worth anything. Well, again, look who's running 650 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,400 it. Look who's running it. 651 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Yeah, look who's running. It's got to be a tax write off. 652 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,000 It's got to be built to just be a loss leader because it really 653 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,760 doesn't make any sense. You, you could make that 654 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040 something and you certainly got the money to do it. 655 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,800 So why aren't you doing it? You know? 656 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040 You know, I know people are saying, man, Levi, I know Tony 657 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,440 Hunt, Tony Hunter, Tony Tony Khan doesn't like me at all. 658 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600 And I don't, you know, I don't, you know, because I don't agree 659 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,280 with his way of doing business. I just don't and I'm not going 660 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,000 to if I don't agree with it, I ain't going to give you, I'm not 661 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,480 going to give you your props, especially if you're not good 662 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,880 enough. I just don't think he has it. 663 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,080 The only reason why he's even in the running of doing anything. 664 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,720 I think, and it's my opinion and again, I'm not trying to bad 665 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,360 nothing, but I just don't think he's I don't think he's able to 666 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,720 run a wrestling company. I just don't feel it. 667 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,360 So, so wait a second, are you, are you saying that you, we 668 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,840 shouldn't expect you to to be getting the Tony Khan hug 669 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,360 anytime soon? Is that what you're saying? 670 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,760 No, I doubt it. I doubt it. 671 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:33,440 I mean, look myself, Bubba, Eric Bischoff and the number one, Jim 672 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,240 Cornette. Yeah, I don't think he likes any 673 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,240 of us. No, no, no. 674 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:48,380 That ship has sailed. Yeah, that, that ship has 675 00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:50,060 sailed. That ship has sailed. 676 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,480 You know, somebody, somebody told me recently that Tony has 677 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,920 heard everything we've said about him and he's not happy. 678 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,360 So take that for whatever you want to take it for. 679 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,800 Look, he can say whatever you want, but I'm telling the truth. 680 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,160 It ain't like I'm not. And he's not happy. 681 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,520 Why? The guy said he needs help. 682 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,760 I said he can't do this by himself. 683 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,400 Am I wrong in what I'm saying? No, I'm not wrong. 684 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,520 So you can, you can say whatever you want to say, you know, say 685 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,600 whatever you want to say. Feel however you want to feel, 686 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,800 but I'm telling the truth. It's it's the truth and the 687 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,240 whole truth. Yeah, nothing but the truth. 688 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,440 So Tony can be mad at me all he wants. 689 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,280 I don't give a damn. I'm not. 690 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,960 I don't work for him. What do I care to? 691 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,320 No, Yeah, he's got to get over it. 692 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,240 He's got to get over it. You better get over it fast. 693 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,720 I mean, again, I'm not trying to disrespect you, man, but I just 694 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,200 don't care, you know? And people say, oh, Devon's 695 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,320 kissing Triple H with their ass. Does he want to come back? 696 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,320 No, that's not it at all. The fact of the matter is I know 697 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,840 a man who knows how to run a company. 698 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,760 I know a man that knows how to run a wrestling company, and I 699 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,200 just don't feel like Tony does. Thank you, for what it's worth. 700 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,000 And I'm not the only one saying it. 701 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,200 So you want to get mad at me and get mad at me, but I'm not the 702 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:10,880 only one, so it is what it is. A prime example of all this is 703 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,880 last week, Thunderosa, she's coming out to make a save. 704 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,400 So you have Chris Statlander, who was was in a match with 705 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,800 Megan Bane and Penelope Ford was out there with her. 706 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,720 So that, you know, after the match, they're attacking 707 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,880 Statlander, Thunder runs to the ring, she's holding the chair, 708 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,000 and now Megan Bane and Penelope Ford are the heels. 709 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,080 So Thunderosa is a babyface who's coming out to save Chris 710 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,560 Statlander, another babyface. Classic wrestling. 711 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,440 We know what it is. Whatever Thunder gets in the 712 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,840 ring, she's holding a chair. She postures as if she's about 713 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,000 to swing it at the heels. And instead of the heels running 714 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,640 out of the ring, which is what they should have done, Megan 715 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,160 Bane stands firm and Penelope Ford, who's a lot smaller than 716 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,400 her, stands in front of her, and it's almost like they dare 717 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,080 Thunderosa to swing the chair at them. 718 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:17,520 It was embarrassing and unprofessional and clearly from 719 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,880 from, you know, the outside and everybody has been talking about 720 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,680 it, people in the business, outside the business, fans, 721 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,080 whoever, everyone's been saying, hey, that was on purpose. 722 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:33,360 They're trying to make Donderosa look bad in this moment by not 723 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,560 getting out of the way. And it puts Thunder in a bad 724 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,160 spot because if she swings that chair and she nails them when 725 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,040 that wasn't discussed beforehand, that you're supposed 726 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,080 to actually hit them and connect with a chair. 727 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,400 Now she's not being safe, even though they're going into 728 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,120 business for themselves in this moment. 729 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,320 And they probably do deserve to get whacked for it. 730 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,440 So I don't know if you saw it or not, Devon, but but the the 731 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,000 general concept of putting you in a position like that where 732 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,120 people are going into business for themselves and you got to 733 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,080 make a decision on whether or not you're going to hit them 734 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,360 with the damn chair or not. I mean, what do you think about 735 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,600 that? Well, again, it's the booking. 736 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:20,520 You know, what are you doing? What are you doing, man? 737 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,840 You know what are you doing? That's all I got to say. 738 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,120 Like what are you doing? I, I saw somebody speculate that 739 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,920 maybe the office had something to do with that and they're 740 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,840 trying to, and they're trying to send a message. 741 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,280 You know, when she gets in the ring and she's holding the 742 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,160 chair, don't, don't bail. Stay there. 743 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,600 No, I didn't. It's crazy. 744 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,200 I didn't know. I didn't know anything about it. 745 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,760 But I mean, again, am I surprised? 746 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,960 The man should not be running a company. 747 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,440 Shouldn't give the book to Jericho, you know? 748 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640 I mean, I hate to say it. I mean, I know you shouldn't 749 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,960 give the book the talent, but damn, give it to Jericho, you 750 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,240 know? He's not going to do any worse 751 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,000 than what we're seeing right now, I tell you that, but it 752 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,080 won't be any worse. Exactly. 753 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,960 You know shit. Give it to the Young Bucks. 754 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,320 Give it to somebody other than him. 755 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,000 I'm sorry. It's not good. 756 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,160 And, and in comparison, when you look at how hot WWE is right 757 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,760 now, it is just insane to see the comparison. 758 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,880 You know, you know, there's a new show that's coming on next 759 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,600 week and it's going to be on Tubi. 760 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,040 It is the EVOLVE show, the WWE EVOLVE show. 761 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:41,680 So they're bringing back that that territory, so to speak. 762 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,120 And and they're going to be putting kids who were in NXT but 763 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,720 who are not getting a lot of TV time. 764 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:51,600 They're going to be on the EVOLVE show, And to be is A, To 765 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,560 be is a. Streaming app. 766 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,120 That is technically owned by Fox, so it is a Fox property, 767 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,080 but it's but it's it's own app that you can pull up and what 768 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,440 have you. It's free, it's going to air at 769 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,920 the same time Dynamite airs. So this is going to be like a 770 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,840 head to head competition with Dynamite. 771 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,960 This, this 4th show of these inexperienced wrestlers 772 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,720 basically is going to go head to head with Dynamite. 773 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,200 How do you think that's going to end up D1? 774 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,120 You said Evolve is going to go head to head with Dynamite. 775 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,240 Yep. I think you. 776 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,320 I think we both know. Don't say. 777 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,800 I just think, you know, and I've never been one to be vocal, you 778 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,880 know, but this is ridiculous. So you heard that he doesn't 779 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,320 like what we're saying. What are we saying that's so 780 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,360 wrong what I'm saying? So the fact of the matter is he 781 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,600 doesn't like it when people don't agree with his method. 782 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,960 It's like that little kid, you know, that has all the toys in 783 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,360 the world. The family's rich. 784 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,080 The minute you stop agreeing with him, he doesn't want to 785 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040 play no more. He wants to take his toys and go 786 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,000 home. OK, then go home, you know, go 787 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,720 home. And I'm not trying to bury the 788 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:16,080 man. You know, I agree with a lot of 789 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,240 people when they say that he's a nice guy. 790 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,080 Doesn't mean that he should be running a wrestling company. 791 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,640 I just don't, you know, I mean, grant you people all, you know, 792 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,880 he's this, he's that. He's not really a bad guy, OK? 793 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,440 He's not a bad guy. He's a good guy. 794 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,400 I agree with that. But again, just because you're a 795 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,800 good guy doesn't mean you should be running your own company, you 796 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,720 know? Well said. 797 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,960 Well said. Well said. 798 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,360 So Tony, I, I, I already knew you listened. 799 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,920 So, you know, I'll, I'll say hi. Tony, you know, I like I told 800 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,640 you when you, when you jumped in my inbox talking crazy the first 801 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,640 time and I said you didn't even say hi to me, Tony, I'm saying 802 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,680 hi to you. Hi, Tony. 803 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,200 Look, man, we want you to stick around because you're a great 804 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680 source of income for people that we care about in this business. 805 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,320 So it's not like we want you to go away. 806 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,680 We just want you to actually, you know, show that you care 807 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,480 about running a company, improving, growing. 808 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,120 Let me just say this. People do. 809 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,840 You said that he inboxed you a bunch of crazy stuff, right? 810 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,240 Because he didn't agree with things that you said, correct? 811 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,360 Yep, Yep, Yep. Let me ask you a question. 812 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,720 You think he inboxed Bubba and it's all crazy? 813 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,640 To him. You think he inboxed Cornett? 814 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,680 Fuck no he didn't. Especially Cornett. 815 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,960 He inboxing Cornett. He might have said some things 816 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,800 about him not appreciating what Cornett has been saying, but he 817 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,360 he can't he excuse my French and you know, I like the curse, but 818 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,960 he can't fuck with Cornett on the mic. 819 00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,000 No way. I don't know too many people 820 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,200 that can. And Bischoff, no way. 821 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,920 How you going to talk crap? The Bischoff, he might not have. 822 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,040 Bischoff had the most successful company that almost took WWE out 823 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,560 of business, you know, with WCW, yeah, sure, he fit. 824 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,560 You know, he had his bumps and bruises. 825 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,320 He lost WCW, he lost the war. But you know what? 826 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,440 He took us all on a great ride, and we can't deny that. 827 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,720 So you can't bury Bischoff. Bischoff more than proved that 828 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:32,240 he could run a successful company to the point where he 829 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,240 scared the hell out of Vince, and not too many people can say 830 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:41,200 they've done that. So why is he talking mess to 831 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,880 you? Because you're actually saying 832 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,080 what should be said, because you're actually pointing out 833 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,960 things. That is obvious. 834 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,280 You know, it's all over social media what people think. 835 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,840 They love the product, but they just don't like how it's being 836 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,480 handled. And that's what we're saying. 837 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,840 We love the product. The the wrestling talent on AW 838 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,000 is freaking phenomenal, no doubt about it. 839 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:18,000 But the person who's steering the ship is not capable, I feel, 840 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,760 and a lot of other people feel, of running it. 841 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,880 I don't have, I don't have a bad bone. 842 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,840 But Tony, I don't hate Tony. I don't dislike Tony. 843 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,960 Tony's never done anything to mean anything to me to dislike 844 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:38,280 him except freaking make me wait around a goddamn arena for four 845 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,520 or five hours to get an answer that I knew that I was going to 846 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,520 get anyway. But still. 847 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,280 I mean, I don't give a damn about that. 848 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,560 But we're stating the facts. Listen, if everybody has the 849 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,840 same opinion and saying the same thing, then we all can't be 850 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,880 wrong. I actually liked him when I met 851 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,000 him. He was a nice guy, you know? 852 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,120 But I just thought, I didn't think he should be running a 853 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,360 wrestling company, that's all. And, and, and again, every 854 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,200 single day he proves you right. That's the scary part about it. 855 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,760 Every single day. It's like, what are you doing 856 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,440 this time, brother Jesus Christ? You know, anyway, what's the 857 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,520 best way that people can keep up with you? 858 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,800 Especially that huge hot white hot YouTube channel that you 859 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,400 got? Plug away bro. 860 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,120 Man, well, that's definitely one way, you know, thank you to 861 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:35,440 everybody for helping me to be able to get to 100,000 followers 862 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,680 in four weeks. That was truly incredible. 863 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,280 YouTube has actually sent me my plaque, which I've been waiting 864 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,000 for, and I can't wait to showcase it to everybody. 865 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,400 Thank you so much for that and the numbers are still growing so 866 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,280 thank you. You can catch me on the YouTube 867 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,640 channel at Devon Dudley YouTube channel or you can find me on 868 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:03,000 Instagram at testify Devon or Twitter. 869 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,920 Check out the wrestling school as well Devon Dudley Academy on 870 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,480 Instagram and Facebook and Twitter as well. 871 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,960 So, you know, take a look at us, if you're ready to take your 872 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,520 dream to the next level, give us a call and we'll definitely help 873 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,960 you. Are you are you seeing any 874 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,440 future world champions already? I know it's a little early in 875 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,720 the game there with this, this latest class, but are you are 876 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,800 you seeing some, some potential there? 877 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,160 I see a lot of potential and a lot of students. 878 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,280 We got guys in there that pick up stuff just like that, so 879 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:41,560 they're doing real good. I've I've seen some big names 880 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,480 and I'm not going to say any names right now, but I've seen 881 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,920 some big names and some big athletes that you got there. 882 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,760 Brother, you, you people, people are really taken to your 883 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,840 training, huh? I'm loving it. 884 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,920 I mean, thank God somebody wants to listen to me. 885 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,720 Thank God. I know your kids, your kids are 886 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,240 going to roll their eyes at that one now, so. 887 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,880 Listen, they're rolling their eyes, sucking their teeth, but 888 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,480 notice how they're not doing it in front of me. 889 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,560 Yeah, exactly. Well, hey, listen, they better 890 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,520 not they better one. One of my favorite things bad is 891 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,920 when when you say get your narrow behind over here, I'm 892 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,360 saying, geez, I haven't heard that in so many years. 893 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:24,640 Wow, I'm old school when it comes to discipline my friend. 894 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,200 Yes, yes, yes. I love it. 895 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,320 I love it folks. Duke loves wrestling on 896 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,720 facebookoror.xdukeloveswrestling@gmail.com. As always, let me know what you 897 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,440 think. Send in your questions, shout 898 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,080 outs, the whole 9 yards there. You know, listen, Devon Dudley 899 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,680 has never been harder. And the irony is there's so much 900 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,120 more on the horizon for the rest of the year. 901 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,160 So just keep tuning in, keep checking out the the YouTube, 902 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,720 keep sharing the show, the whole 9 yards because there's many 903 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:01,080 more surprises coming and, and we'll just leave it at that for 904 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,760 now. Any any big bookings coming up 905 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,160 over the next couple of weeks here or you want to hold on to 906 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,680 that? Yes, I'll be hold on. 907 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,760 So I'm going to be in Detroit this this week at a auto 908 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,240 convention. All the information will be on 909 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,600 my Instagram. Check it out. 910 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,560 If you're in the Detroit area, come on down and check myself 911 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,800 and Bubba out. Perfect, perfect. 912 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,280 Well folks, that does it this week. 913 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,960 Join us again next time. And before we go, Devon, give us 914 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,360 our word of the week, bro. Sure, when God gives you a new 915 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,560 beginning, remember, do not repeat old mistakes. 916 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:47,240 Testify. My brother, strictly for the 917 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:58,400 culture, every day stepping style in your unique way, pants 918 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,400 and colours. 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