1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,960 Wrestling tails knock you off your seat, TuneIn. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,560 Now don't you be late. Wrestling Punk has never felt 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,960 this great. Tails, ladders, chairs, they 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,400 tell it all. From the highest highs to the 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,880 lowest fall. Great lower tails from the ring. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,560 Every chain, every cheer they'll bring, bring the heat. 7 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:37,960 Wrestling tails knock you off your seat. 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,320 TuneIn. Now don't you be late. 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Wrestling podcast never felt this crazy. 10 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:50,600 Brothers and sisters, welcome back. 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Welcome back to another exciting edition of the Devon of the Duke 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,040 podcast. This is a limited edition series 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,520 hosted by your main man. Duke loves wrestling and of 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,200 course the five time Hall of Famer, the YouTube sensation, 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:12,240 the man who trended during WWE Summer Slam, which is just 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,040 fascinating to me all these years later in the in in this 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,680 man 1/2 of the Dudley boys still trending above current stars 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,000 which is wow the one the only brother Devon Dudley. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,960 How you doing there Devon? I'm doing good, not bad, not bad 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,960 at all. Very eventful last couple of 21 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:34,360 weeks for me and enjoyed every bit of it trending. 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,440 I didn't know until you said something about it. 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,000 So, you know, I mean, hey, God is good. 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,360 That's all I'm going to say. Like you said, there's so many 25 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,680 current superstars that probably blow me away. 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,520 And I say that in terms of blow me away because they're current 27 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,560 right now. Remember, I decide out of mind. 28 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,720 And when you're not in the public eye in the wrestling 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,120 business like you used to be and you take on a different role, 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,560 chances are you twit chance of you trending more than the 31 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,080 people that are currently out there doing what they're doing. 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,440 That says something. So, you know, again, I'm very 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,520 humble and very grateful to God that you know that that happened 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:18,480 and I can't be more happier. You know, respect to, to Bubba, 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,560 respect to your brother, your brother, you know, he, he's, he 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,360 manages to get himself on TV every year pretty often, whether 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,320 he's doing stuff with TNA or, you know, WWELFG or interviews, 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,760 whatever he, he's Bubba is always in front of a camera. 39 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,840 So, you know, kudos to him because in his own way, he's 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,840 keeping the brand alive by doing that. 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,320 But with that said, the pop that you got when they, they put the 42 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,160 camera on the both of you, and especially when, when, when you 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,080 know, Bubba said Devon and you like what people were just going 44 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,880 crazy. Could you feel that energy when 45 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,400 when you guys were doing that? Because on TV it came across? 46 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:04,240 Oh yeah, absolutely. 56,000 people screaming. 47 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:06,960 It was great. Even when we walked out with the 48 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Hardys, the Hardys with the Hardys were like maybe 25 feet 49 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,280 on the side of us and ahead of us. 50 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,000 So, you know, you got there, they got there pop. 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,880 But then as we started walking, we got ours. 52 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,720 So you can definitely tell the difference and you know the pops 53 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,840 and it was, it was, it was, it was overwhelming. 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,800 It was so special to see Bro. And then again on X, you guys 55 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,040 trended for for the next couple of matches, which was amazing. 56 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,680 So, so not just trending above whoever else is on the card, but 57 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,680 of all the topics happening in the world, the Dudley boys were 58 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,240 trending. So it's like, man, you know, you 59 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,520 again, that that brand is still something that people care 60 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,800 about, still something that people like talking about. 61 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 And most importantly, you guys are still people that they want 62 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,240 to see, especially together. So, you know, I got to tip my 63 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,600 hat to you, man, to, to remain relevant for so long and to be 64 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,760 able to to still in this modern day with so much going on, to be 65 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,040 able to capture people's attention and hold it like that. 66 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,959 That's good stuff, man. That's, that's really good 67 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:23,600 stuff, you know? You know, I again, I can only 68 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,880 thank God. I know people probably try to 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,200 try to hear me saying this, but I do. 70 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:32,200 I just thank God because I don't care if they're tired of me 71 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,440 saying this or not. Nothing happens without God's 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,240 approval. I mean, and you know, things 73 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,040 like that is, is all I need to hear and, and see, you know, 74 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 because again, if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be in this 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,720 position that I'm in right now. You know, and I, and I brought 76 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,920 this up and I was going to say this to somebody that pretty 77 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:01,240 much was talking about when wrestlers leave the business or 78 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,720 they're not as relevant as they used to be. 79 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,600 And I say, and I'm, I'm bringing this up because here it is, you 80 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,560 know, even during the Attitude era, not so much the Hogan and 81 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Andre era, because we know back then there was no social media. 82 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,240 There wasn't anything for these guys go make money. 83 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,760 If they didn't do the right thing with their money or they 84 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,000 working though they wasn't working behind the scenes in 85 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,960 some capacity, you can make money. 86 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,280 The Attitude ever that generation, we were lucky to 87 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:36,200 stumble upon social media when it came out because now a lot of 88 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,720 us are being able to make money outside of the wrestling 89 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,840 business. Although so many of us that left 90 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,520 during the time of the end of the Attitude ever how to get a 91 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,360 regular nine to five job and go out there and work. 92 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,960 And believe me when I say it, there's nothing wrong with that. 93 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 But when you're so used to being in front of the camera and 94 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,520 entertainment business and making money that way, it's hard 95 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,400 for an individual to go back to another a nine to five job. 96 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:11,800 It's very hard and sometimes mentally it plays a huge play in 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,840 your mind thought process. And so for me to be able not 98 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:23,120 only to make money at the autograph signings and I do the 99 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,920 legends deal that WWE has given Bubba and myself, the things 100 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,200 that you know, with fanatics, the signing of the autographs, 101 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 the baseball cards and everything. 102 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:41,240 Like I said, the legends deal with the royalty checks and 103 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,800 things like that. And not to mention with my 104 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,040 businesses, the detailing business, the wrestling school, 105 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:53,920 which is doing very well. And on top of that, the YouTube 106 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,600 channel, you know, making money off the YouTube channel and then 107 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,000 with the sponsorships that come in. 108 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,480 I've been blessed in every way, shape or form to continue this 109 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Devon brand going. And it's only through the grace 110 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,240 of God that this is happening. So people who that don't believe 111 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,520 in the Bible don't believe in God. 112 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,840 And I get that every once in a while when I go on my Instagram 113 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,240 at Testify Devon and I put biblical things up there. 114 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,240 You have the devil working in full capacity because you'll get 115 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,800 some idiot that'll say the Bible ain't real, God ain't real. 116 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Tell Satan. I don't even respond. 117 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,640 I just block them. And it's not worth talking to 118 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,480 ignorant people like that. If you don't believe what I 119 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:46,840 believe, then that's that's you. OK, But my belief is God and 120 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,160 what I believe. I believe that book that we 121 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,560 called the Bible. So if you don't believe it, 122 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,320 that's on you. I'm not saying you going to 123 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,280 hell, not that you believe in hell and in heaven, but in my 124 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,880 opinion, that's your opinion. You're not going to persuade me 125 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:06,160 in any way, shape or form. My mother and father raise me to 126 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,720 believe in God, to believe in the Bible and to study the Word 127 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,120 and that's what I do. I don't study the word the way I 128 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,760 should, but I study it and I and I take Bible quotes and I listen 129 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 and I listen to preaching all the time. 130 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Am IA Christian that is going to say I'm going to heaven because 131 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,520 I do all that. No, because I fall just like the 132 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,840 next man. I've done things that I'm not 133 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,880 proud of even to this day. You know, I go through my own 134 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,200 trials and tribulations, but doesn't mean I'm going to give 135 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,919 up on God. That old saying in the church, 136 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,880 he may not come when you want him, but I'm going to tell you 137 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,160 he's always on time. And instead of looking for 138 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,200 vengeance in myself, I try to get the person back for what 139 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,360 that done me wrong. I sit back with popcorn, put my 140 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,160 feet up on my desk, and I watch God at work. 141 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,400 That's what I do. Here, here. 142 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,480 I I love that. It's funny you say that because 143 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 that's one of my my mom's favorite things to say to me all 144 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,480 the time. Don't try to get seek vengeance 145 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,800 on your own. God will sort it out, you just 146 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,600 got to be patient. You certainly will. 147 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,640 You have to be patient and wait because we're so impatient 148 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,760 because we want it right then and now. 149 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,400 When something's done wrong to us, we want it taken care of 150 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,840 right then and now. Which is why you see so many 151 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,920 times when people say things wrong to us or you go on social 152 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,040 media and people start getting the best verbally of somebody 153 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,400 and that other person feel like they got to come back and say 154 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,480 something back to them. For what? 155 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Because just cuz you say what you say is not going to get 156 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,240 through their head. What you're what you're thinking 157 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,800 is how it hurts your feelings or it hurts you. 158 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,800 They're still going to feel the same way. 159 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:51,160 It's only when Dodd pointed out to them that they realize that 160 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,920 they screwed. Up Speaking of screwing up, I I 161 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:00,600 got to tell you man, the the dirt sheets have really put a 162 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,280 bad taste in my mouth through the years. 163 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,120 Just for, you know, misinformation, blatant lies, 164 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,160 spinning narratives to try to put themselves over, digging 165 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,440 into the, you know, digging into the personal life. 166 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,440 You guys, What what? What do they do now? 167 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,200 Here's a great example. There is A and I'm not going to 168 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 name, I'm not going to say their name because all that does is 169 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,080 give them press. I can tell you offline who I'm 170 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,880 talking about specifically, but you know it's a lowlife scumbag 171 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,800 that has gone out of their way. They've lied about you before. 172 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,480 One of their big things that they've been whispering to 173 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,840 people and and posting about is that Devon Dudley will never be 174 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,560 cleared again to wrestle. It'll never happen. 175 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,680 His health is too bad. He he'll never wrestle again. 176 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Trust me, it's not. It's not going to happen. 177 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,000 This, this, this, this. This complete and utter goofball 178 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,240 who has never spoken to you before, by the way, has never 179 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,120 directly spoken to you, acts as if they're your doctor or 180 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,240 something like that. And they've been telling anyone 181 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:12,080 and everyone that'll listen that you will never perform again. 182 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:19,680 Which is ironic, because coming up in October, you and your 183 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:26,280 brother are going to be in Lowell, MA, wrestling. 184 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:32,240 What could be the final Dudley Boys match in history? 185 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,560 And you're going up against the Hardy Boys, folks, This is going 186 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:41,840 to be for TNA once again, right? What is it? 187 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,080 Bound for glory. Huge pay-per-view event. 188 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,840 The president of TNA has been talking about it. 189 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,200 He's excited for the match. He can't wait to see it. 190 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,200 Carlos Silva, shout out to him and he said something 191 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,360 interesting. He said, look, we're not going 192 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 to put anybody out there who can't physically be out there. 193 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,000 We're not going to risk anybody's lives or anything like 194 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,440 that. So if we put the match together, 195 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,680 there's a reason for that. So so so Devon, for the dirt 196 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:13,040 chic goofballs who've been misleading people and talking 197 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:20,760 this nonsense. Are you able to wrestle this 198 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,120 match? Yes or no? 199 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Yes. What they fail to understand too 200 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,640 is I have a wrestling school in in not Kissimmee anymore. 201 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,080 So I went to park and I get in the ring and I teach and I, you 202 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,120 know, teach these students. I take bumps, I do everything in 203 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,520 this ring. So before you start running your 204 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,640 mouth, if you don't know me, reach out to me. 205 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Ask me. I'll tell you. 206 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,800 I don't have any feelings. If I didn't think I couldn't. 207 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,560 If I don't think I could, I wouldn't. 208 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,240 If I felt that my body wasn't going to be able to take it and 209 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,480 I wouldn't. Here's the deal. 210 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,600 The only people I do trust is Matt and Jeff. 211 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 I'm going off a script and I'll say hi. 212 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,840 It's Matt and Jeff that I trust. And I say that because those are 213 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,840 the only two that I would put my body on the line with just 214 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,280 because of our history and what we've done and how we feel about 215 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,760 each other. Not saying that somebody's going 216 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,600 to go easy or anything like that, but again, if I felt like 217 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,440 I didn't, I couldn't do it, then I wouldn't do it. 218 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,880 It's as simple as that. No one's making me. 219 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,520 I'm not doing it because I need the money or anything. 220 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,760 I said it on my YouTube channel. You know, when Bubba left the 221 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:39,440 company in 2016 and didn't want to resign, I felt that I still 222 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,600 had something left in this tank. And when I went to Triple H and 223 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 asked him, I said, what happens if I don't take this producer 224 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,960 role? What does that mean? 225 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,920 And he says, well, unfortunately, the old man wants 226 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 both of you. He doesn't just want 1. 227 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,080 He doesn't want just Bubba and he doesn't want just Devon. 228 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,400 You're kind of like in the same scenario with Animal and Hawk. 229 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,400 You know, we didn't want one without the other. 230 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,920 So if you don't take this deal with being a producer, then 231 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,080 we're going to have to let you go. 232 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,880 I had a family to feed. I had to do it. 233 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,040 There was benefits involved. There was a large amount of 234 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,080 money that was put on the table as a producer that I didn't have 235 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,280 to wrestle anymore. So I took the producer's role 236 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 and I was always trying to give little scenarios here and there 237 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 how I can come back and help out the younger talent. 238 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,080 And then the stroke happened and I couldn't do it. 239 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,720 But it was always an itch that I was needing to scratch. 240 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,400 And that was the itch in the 1000 episode. 241 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Remind you, I was about maybe seven months out of back surgery 242 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,280 and did what I did at the 1000 episode. 243 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Was I in pain? Yes. 244 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Did this have anything to do with the stroke? 245 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,160 No, the stroke was cleared me a year after that if I wanted to 246 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,520 get back in the rain, you know, and I said OK, but now it was 247 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,040 the back surgery that was causing me the problems because 248 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,640 you have to get used to all of that. 249 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,640 You know, you get used to the bolts and screws. 250 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,040 The fusion, what was it, 8 months? 251 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,200 I think it was after it, eight months, almost a year. 252 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,240 That's not going to work that quick. 253 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,400 I'm going on now almost three years and not to mention I keep 254 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:24,680 saying that DDP yoga it works working with DDP, his wife Paige 255 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Bobby Fish, who I just did a who I just did a session with 256 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,920 yesterday at my school and I get in the ring, I hit the ropes and 257 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,240 start bumping, taking bumps. I don't do leg drops anymore. 258 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,520 And believe me when I say this, I want I was telling, I was 259 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,480 telling my lady, I said I want to do leg drops so bad and this 260 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,960 match with the Hardee's, but I'm afraid, I'm afraid because of 261 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,080 the compression. This is what happened with Hogan 262 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,480 and Hogan admitted it to me and he and he said it in interviews. 263 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,360 All the years of doing that leg drop. 264 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,520 The easiest move to possibly do is what caused them. 265 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,400 They they're going to have those back problems because you're 266 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,520 compressing your vertebrates. You know, you're jumping up in 267 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,080 the air and you come crashing down. 268 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,440 For as many years as Hogan has wrestled, he did a leg drop 269 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,000 every single time. Not to mention all the other 270 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,120 stuff he probably did too. But the leg drop was what 271 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,920 really, really did it for him. And I wanted to pay tribute to 272 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Hogan. I did. 273 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,240 But then I thought about it. I said I can't take that chance. 274 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,120 I can't take that chance of doing a leg drop and messing up 275 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,640 something and chance, No, I might not mess up anything, but 276 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,600 I just don't want to take that chance. 277 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,800 So to go back to the original question, can I, can I still go? 278 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Yes, I can still go. If I didn't think so, I 279 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,600 wouldn't. And besides, I'm not going to be 280 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,160 flying off with ladders and jumping off the tables or 281 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,920 through tables. We're going to have a nice, 282 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,320 we'll have a nice nostalgia match where we're going to get 283 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 people happy jumping out of their seats. 284 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,360 Devon, get the tables, you know, version 1, Matt Hardy, you know, 285 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,640 get them doing everything, you know, delete, delete, delete. 286 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:11,560 We're going to entertain the people and still give them what 287 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,640 they want. We're going to show them that we 288 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,319 have not lost the step. And if I went in that ring at 289 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,760 the wrestling school with those students and I couldn't do what 290 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,800 I was doing, then I would say I can't do this match. 291 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,600 But that's not the case. I'm in that ring and I'm doing 292 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,880 it. Just because you don't see me 293 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,520 doing it don't mean that I'm not doing it. 294 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,080 And I think a lot of people are going to regret what they're 295 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,600 saying. Come bound for glory. 296 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Well, that that's the best part. It did you know these goofballs, 297 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,760 they know they're fans of yours and and they're always trying to 298 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,960 come up with something in order to talk about you. 299 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,000 But the fact that they want to act as if that, you know, they 300 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,120 play the doctor on TV, so that makes that makes them feel like 301 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:58,280 they could say whatever they want. 302 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,120 It's just silly. It's it's all silly. 303 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,560 I don't understand it. A bunch of people have asked me 304 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:13,400 to ask you directly from a a mental and physical standpoint. 305 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,440 I guess you kind of answered this question already, but I'll 306 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,000 ask you this phrase a little differently from a mental and 307 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,320 physical standpoint as it relates to this match against 308 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,680 the Hardys, the retirement match. 309 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:32,160 How are you feeling? Feel great, you know, Nor am I 310 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,480 looking at this as being something where I'm scared to do 311 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,160 anything like that. No, listen, I've, again, I've 312 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,240 still been in the ring. I've still been doing things 313 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,120 after the 1000 episode. Am I going to do a leg drop? 314 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,200 No. Am I going to do anything that's 315 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,360 going to compress my vertebrae? No, I'm not. 316 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,040 And even if I didn't have the surgery and I was healthy as an 317 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,040 ox, I shouldn't be doing that anyway. 318 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,000 So I'm not going to sit here and do things that's going to, you 319 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,800 know, hurt me or injure me. Listen, Bubba and I have never 320 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,840 been guys that have been high Flyers. 321 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,760 We've been on the ground punching, kicking and doing a 322 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,840 shoulder tackle, my spinning elbow 3D, you know, things like 323 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,800 that. The what's up. 324 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Hell, I may, may not do the what's up. 325 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,040 I don't know. I know when that adrenaline is 326 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,720 going through my body, I might go, OK, let's do it. 327 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Then again, I might say no, I don't want to. 328 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:35,600 You know, I've done everything that I was supposed to do in 329 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,320 this wrestling business for me. Did I win a world title? 330 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,640 No, I didn't. Did some of my, you know, people 331 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,120 that I was with one yes, And that's fine with them. 332 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,480 I was happy with the tag team division. 333 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,080 I was happy with my singles run in TNA with the television 334 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,160 title. I'm good. 335 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,760 This will put the final nail in the coffin of what I need to do. 336 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,320 So I'm good. I don't need to. 337 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,680 Go out there and be the ECWD behind. 338 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,120 I didn't care about his body. I'm going to protect my body. 339 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,880 Like Randy Orton told me when I had that talk with him. 340 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,080 And I said this in an interview, Yvonne, you got to think smart. 341 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,960 And he said he goes, I know it's kind of weird coming from me 342 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,920 because you kind of helped me through the ranks coming up in 343 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,320 the business when you were vet and I was a rookie. 344 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,120 But now I'm going to tell you what you used to tell me. 345 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:35,920 Think smart, go in there and and entertain, but go in there and 346 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,160 do it smart, he said. That's what I do. 347 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,760 And I've been looking at Randy's, Orton, Randy Orton's 348 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,960 matches since he's been back from the back surgery. 349 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,520 And what is it that crazy that Randy does? 350 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,640 He really doesn't do anything crazy. 351 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,120 He goes out there, he entertains, he does what he has 352 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,280 to do and the matches are success. 353 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,200 The bottom line is you put a story behind what you're doing 354 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,960 and that's what we should be doing. 355 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,160 That's what was taught to us back during the Attitude Era 356 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600 when we were growing up in the business or the ECW era. 357 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,640 You don't have to go out there and kill yourself and maim 358 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,840 yourself. Just go out there and think 359 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,440 smart. There's a reason why Dusty Rose 360 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,480 and Rick Flay and all of them lasted as long as they didn't 361 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,800 have the successful career that they had. 362 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,320 They did a smart, They told a story in their match. 363 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,200 Every move, every hit, every everything meant something. 364 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 And that's what you have to do now. 365 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,120 You have to think realistically, not egotistically, because it's 366 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,640 suicide if you even think of doing it any other way. 367 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,080 So for those that want to know, I'm fine, I'm good. 368 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,520 I'm not going to be one of those guys that, you know, regret it 369 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,920 later. No, because I'm going to go out 370 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,320 there and do things smaller and I'm going to go out there with 371 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,240 two guys that I know that will take care of me and won't do 372 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:10,000 anything stupid Jeff to, you know, injure me. 373 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,920 And again, guys, I love Jeff. Don't think that I'm scared the 374 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,400 death to Jeff because I'm not he's he's a little off his rock 375 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,720 at times, but Jeff knows what he's doing. 376 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,400 Jeff is crazy. I love him just as much as he 377 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,280 loves me. And I wouldn't have it any other 378 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,800 way but to be in there with Matt and Jeff, the Hardy Boys. 379 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:34,000 I would love to have Christian and Edge in the mix. 380 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,680 But, you know, and just and after I almost forgot, think 381 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:43,120 about Edge with his neck, you know, I mean, that's even more 382 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:49,960 dangerous than my back, you know, Edge going in there and 383 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,360 doing things smart, you know, with the exception of jumping 384 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,440 off the. Page Yeah, I. 385 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:57,560 Remember, I remember I called them up. 386 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,480 I said, bro, what are you doing? He goes, Devon, I don't know 387 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,880 what I was thinking. I was caught up in the moment. 388 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240 I was feeling good. I said, you know, we too damn 389 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,880 old to be doing that shit. I said even, I said even when we 390 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080 were 20s, we shouldn't have been doing that because it takes a 391 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,840 toll on the body. You know, I did a thing on my 392 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,320 YouTube channel about bumps being taken and how Debbie Allen 393 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,160 took this bump through a glass table on the outside and I was 394 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,080 like, damn bro. I was like, I love you to death. 395 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 We've met you a great guy, but man, take care of your body. 396 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:33,920 Don't let these knucklehead promoters talk you into doing 397 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,440 stuff that you have to wow the crowd and then pay for it 20 398 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,440 years down the line. Freaking take care of your body, 399 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,320 man. So there could be you could have 400 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,480 a 5060 year career as opposed to only a 20. 401 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,880 You know, just take care of your body. 402 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Well said. Well said. 403 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,600 Once again folks, TNA wrestling presents Bound for Glory 2025 404 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,040 That's Sunday October 12th at the Songus Center in Lowell, MA. 405 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,480 Now mind you, this is the biggest TNA pay-per-view of the 406 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,600 year, but in addition to that, it's the 20th anniversary of 407 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,120 Bound For Glory. So of course they got to do it 408 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,640 big, with two of the greatest tag teams of all time squaring 409 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,800 off other than the Road Warriors to see who the greatest tag team 410 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,320 is once and for all, 'cause you know, Devon, the Hardys keep 411 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,880 trying to take that crown from y'all. 412 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,120 So that's why you got to slap them around a little bit and 413 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:35,520 remind them, you know, tickets. Tickets are on sale at the 414 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,440 Songas center.evenue.net, folks. So definitely get your tickets. 415 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840 They're going to sell out quick. You want to be there. 416 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,360 It is going to be a celebration, no doubt about it. 417 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,400 And clearly the Hardys and the and the Dudleys are going to be 418 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,800 playing all the greatest hits. Play free bird, play free bird. 419 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,440 They can be playing all the greatest hits, folks. 420 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,240 So you don't want to miss this way, man, I'll tell you, listen, 421 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,000 you, you posted a, a photo on your Instagram, Speaking of your 422 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Instagram. And I was blown away. 423 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,440 Dixie Carter. Now, mind you, and and I hate to 424 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:24,000 date her like this, but she's coming up on her 61st birthday 425 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 here. So in October, she's going to 426 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,000 turn 61 years old, and damn it, she looks at least 20 years 427 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480 younger than that. Incredible. 428 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600 She looks great. She looks great. 429 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600 And you know, my hat goes off to Dixie. 430 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,160 Dixie always looked good, I thought. 431 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680 I didn't think there was a time when Dixie ever looked bad or 432 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:52,040 too old, you know, And you know, I've gone public in saying that 433 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,640 during the Dixie regime that I was very unhappy with TNA 434 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,120 because of how I felt I was being treated at the time. 435 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:07,800 But Dixie and I talked and since then and you know, so it's water 436 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,080 under the well. You move on. 437 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,920 Business is business. I am where I am in life and 438 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,880 nothing really hurt me to that point where I can sit there and 439 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,520 hold the grudge because I'm not. But I will say, like I said, I 440 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,720 will say this, they helped me during the time when I left WWE 441 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,080 and you know, I'm just very grateful for the 10 years that I 442 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,520 spent with them and had some good times. 443 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Whether it be wrestling in the very beginning to help the tag 444 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,280 team division, whether it had been the television title run or 445 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,720 even the Aces and Eights. I have a great time. 446 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,280 Were there a lot of bad times in between? 447 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:59,360 Sure there were. But we got through it, we became 448 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,200 successful, and that's all that matters. 449 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 You know, it's, I'm going to ask you an interesting question that 450 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,240 you've probably never been asked before, but let me set this up 451 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,320 here because you're very close with your mom. 452 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,600 I'm very close with my mom. I know for me personally, I've 453 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,440 been fortunate enough, and this is kind of unusual, I've had in 454 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:30,320 terms of, of leadership in every job that I've had for the most 455 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,120 part, at some point I had a woman for a boss. 456 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:42,200 So if I were to tally it up, I would say, I would say almost 457 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,520 half of the, the, the people I've ever had to report through 458 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,160 to through the years, even to this day were women. 459 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,480 So, so I got a unique perspective on what women can 460 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,160 do, how they are as leaders, etcetera, etcetera. 461 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,680 And, and I got to tell you, you know, me personally, I've always 462 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,680 preferred if I have to report to anybody women because I've, I've 463 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,520 gotten along with women so well just in life in general. 464 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,520 So it's, you know, we, we just flow not to say is anything 465 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,840 wrong with working for a man, but you know how we are. 466 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,640 We, we can, we can be a little much, especially the other men. 467 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,640 We tell you to do it. You better get it done, get in 468 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,280 your face, want to smack you around and stuff. 469 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600 You know, women is there's a different approach there that I 470 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,520 respect. So you're somebody who you you 471 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,080 had Dixie as as really one of the final bosses in that 472 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,320 company, but you in WWE, you also had Stephanie McMahon, who 473 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,120 was very high up there throughout your time in the 474 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,720 company. How did it feel to work in the 475 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:55,600 wrestling industry with women who were in charge and Stephanie 476 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,040 and Dixie in particular? What were some of the 477 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,480 differences, if any, to the way that they would manage their 478 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,720 leadership compared to all the different men that you worked 479 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:17,160 for in wrestling? Let me see if I understand the 480 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840 question before I answer, because I don't want to mess 481 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,680 this up in detail. What do you mean? 482 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,360 What what are some of the differences between the way that 483 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Dixie and Stephanie would manage, give direction, hold 484 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240 people accountable, and all that? 485 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,320 I'm going to say this. I got you. 486 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,480 I'm going to say this. With Dixie, there was a level of 487 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,480 forgiveness to a sense where you could play on Dixie's 488 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,240 heartstrings, I believe, and chances are she would break 489 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,240 because I think a lot of times Dixie didn't realize how 490 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,440 conniving that the people in this business could be. 491 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,960 And I believe that there were a lot of people that took 492 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,120 advantage of Dixie that knew that, that were able to talk her 493 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,760 into not standing her ground and, and things like that. 494 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Now, Stephanie, on the other hand, you ain't playing with her 495 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,440 man. Stephanie was so much like dance 496 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160 in a sense where you couldn't pull anything over her head, 497 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,000 which was good because, you know, with the ego that were in 498 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,040 WWE at that time, you couldn't do that to Stephanie. 499 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,440 Stephanie learned from her dad. Stephanie learned from Hannah, 500 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,280 you know, Stephanie learned, you know, from Pat Patterson. 501 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,120 I mean, there were people there that groomed Stephanie to be in 502 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,200 a position during that time that she was in. 503 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,720 And while she was able to handle it, you couldn't sit up there 504 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840 and manipulate Stephanie. Stephanie was too smart for 505 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,240 that. And again, she, she would take a 506 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,120 page out of her father's book. And that sometimes I used to 507 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,680 always say that Stephanie was probably more ruthless than 508 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Vince if ever given the, the, the, the, the full, the full 509 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,400 booking or what have you on or the ownership of the company. 510 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Because you know, as a woman, you have a lot to prove that 511 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,080 you're not a pushover and things like that, because a lot of men 512 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,720 would probably want to take advantage of that. 513 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,200 But you couldn't. Again, I got to say you could 514 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680 not do that with Stephanie, you know, and she was taught by 515 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Triple H as well. So as Hannah was learning 516 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,960 through Vince, Stephanie was learning through Vince and 517 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Hannah. Yeah, well said. 518 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,760 Well said. Stephanie also has a business 519 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,720 degree from Boston. That was Boston College. 520 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Oh, OK. Yeah, actually, she's a very, 521 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,960 she's a very intelligent woman. Yeah, Boston University, excuse 522 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,280 me, Boston University, but she, she, like you said, she's nobody 523 00:31:54,280 --> 00:32:01,120 to play with, excellent leader. And she has a new podcast and 524 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,400 I'm just putting it out there. I I would love to see Devon 525 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,440 Dudley be interviewed by Stephanie McMahon so that you 526 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,200 can tell her yourself, Devon, that when you said that she was 527 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,920 a beautiful woman and all that good stuff there in the dirt 528 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,520 sheets ran with it. You, you weren't trying to flirt 529 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,960 or do anything like that. So. 530 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,600 So we need you on that show to clear that up so Stephanie can 531 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,240 look you in your eye 'cause you know she'll snatch you up if you 532 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,680 say the wrong thing to look you in your eye as she. 533 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,200 Man, you know you make me not want to be on her show. 534 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,440 You scared the hell out of me right now. 535 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Listen, you don't know, man. I would. 536 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,080 I would. I would. 537 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,560 I would. I'm going to fix you with 538 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,840 everything. Yeah, I know. 539 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,720 I see that. No, but you know, the word, the 540 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120 wording was messed up during that time. 541 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,760 And instead of saying I admired, I said I was infatuated with 542 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080 her. And of course, infatuation and 543 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080 admire are two different meanings, two different 544 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,840 definitions. But again, it was one of those 545 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,640 things where I was talking and not really paying attention to 546 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,120 what I was saying. And I used the word infatuated, 547 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,920 but I was only trying to say that, you know, I admired her a 548 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280 lot for what she had been through coming up. 549 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,880 Look, she grew up in this business. 550 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,000 She knew, you know, the Andre and Hogan era, she knew the 551 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,600 Brett and Shawn era, and of course she knew the The Rock and 552 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,080 Austin era, She knew the Attitude era. 553 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,920 So I was, I was basically putting over how smart she was 554 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,360 in the business. And then they got turned around 555 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,600 and said that, oh, well, Devon has a crush. 556 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,600 Watch out, Triple H No, no, watch out. 557 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,960 Watch out for what you know, that woman is madly in love with 558 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240 her husband and her husband's madly in love with her. 559 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Ain't nobody trying to disrupt that. 560 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,280 Ain't nobody trying to start no controversy. 561 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,320 So, you know, all of those knuckleheads that try to run 562 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000 with that. And there were people that I was 563 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,840 in the ring with that try to do a try to do a thing on that too. 564 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,239 And I made it publicly known they can go F off because you 565 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,239 know damn well that wasn't the case. 566 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,639 And I didn't mean it that way, but people ran with it and it 567 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,159 was what it was. And at the time I was home 568 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,080 recovering from the back surgery, so I was like, thank 569 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,960 God I didn't have to go into work and go into those meetings. 570 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,920 I can only imagine. Well. 571 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,280 What my fellow you know other producers and people would have 572 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,400 said. I would tell you something 573 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,400 funny, man, because she just put out a new episode where she 574 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:42,440 interviewed Naomi and Jimmy USO. And at one point, I don't know 575 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,600 how they even got there, but they were talking about Trish 576 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,719 Stratus and and how she's everyone's first crush and what 577 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,600 have you. And Jimmy was saying how he had 578 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Trish Stratus's poster up on his wall. 579 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,760 That was like the first poster. His mom would let him hang. 580 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,960 And Stephanie was like, wait a second, you had Trish on your 581 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,520 wall. You didn't have me on your wall. 582 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,760 And Jimmy started blushing and and laughing it, man, it was so 583 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,240 the first thing I thought to myself, I was, oh, we got to get 584 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,680 Devon on this show. Now, if if she started to bust 585 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,440 chops like that, I want to hear her do that to Devon. 586 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,440 Because this, this is, this is gold right here. 587 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,400 Well, I listen, I know Stephanie. 588 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,080 I know Stephanie would run with it and make me feel so 589 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400 uncomfortable. I know she would. 590 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640 And she would be laughing underneath her breath 591 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,120 hysterically because of it, because she's very good with her 592 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120 words and she knows how to make you stumble. 593 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,440 And I just be like, no, but that, that's not what I meant, 594 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,000 Devon, you know. But you know, what I loved about 595 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:47,400 what I loved about Stephanie was when I had my stroke, she called 596 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,680 me and I was in the middle of going through some procedures at 597 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,720 the time when she called because she called twice. 598 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,920 The first time I think I was being wheeled in for surgery and 599 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,240 the second time I think I was in the recovery room. 600 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,560 And she, I, I saved it to this day. 601 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,040 She was just like, you know, hey, Devon, it's Steph. 602 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,200 I just want to say that, you know, we're all pulling for you 603 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,400 and things like that. And you're going to be the true 604 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,600 rock star that you are. You're going to bounce back from 605 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,200 this. And I know you're going to be 606 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,600 better than ever. And while prayers and thoughts 607 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,920 are with you, and I just want you to know that me and Hunter 608 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,840 were thinking about you and we know that you're going to make a 609 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,000 full recovery. And that was one of the things. 610 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,480 One of the voice messages she left in the second one was 611 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,840 somewhat similar. And she said, you know, Devon, I 612 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,800 called you the first time. I know you're going through some 613 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880 stuff, but I just wanted to call the second time to make sure you 614 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,640 know that I will not relax until I speak to you. 615 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,720 And I know that it's you that I'm talking to. 616 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:50,280 So when she did that and then I finally got to speak to her and 617 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,560 talk to her, I was so overwhelmed with joy because she 618 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160 didn't have to do that, but she did it. 619 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,800 And that showed the relationship that Stephanie and I had during 620 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,760 the Attitude Era where it was a mutual respect, where, you know, 621 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,120 she thought enough to want to hear my voice, to make sure that 622 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,960 I was OK and that not taking it from the doctors or whatever, 623 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,120 because she was very sincerely, she cared about what was going 624 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,360 on. And, you know, that was just one 625 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,680 thing that I would always be grateful for, for her for doing 626 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,720 that. Her and Hunter both, they were 627 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,800 true champions when I was going through what I was going 628 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320 through. And they made sure to know that 629 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,320 I was OK. And if I'm not mistaken, I 630 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,800 believe Stephanie and Hunter sent me flowers to the house. 631 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480 I remember when I talked to Stephanie, I said, well damn 632 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,880 Steph, I ain't dead. She started laughing. 633 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,240 Devon, I know we were just one. I said, no, I know I'm joking 634 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,200 with you. I said thank you so much. 635 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,840 I really appreciate the sincerely the sincere of you 636 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,880 guys trying to reach out to me and this really, really trying 637 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,280 to make sure I was OK. I said, but you know me, I'll be 638 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,640 better than ever and I'm going to bounce back and I'm going to 639 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,920 be back producing and doing what I do in no time. 640 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,920 And sure enough, I was. I was back. 641 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,360 I love that story. I love it. 642 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,800 It's it's not the first time you told it on the show, but I love 643 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,560 to hearing it because it's a reminder that all of you are 644 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,280 human beings and all the time that you speak you spent 645 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,080 together. There are some true bonds that 646 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,720 go beyond Co workers. You guys are family, so to hear 647 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,080 humanity being shared amongst each other like that, because 648 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,800 you, you hear all the negative stuff all the time to, to hear 649 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,920 that humanity, that's the word that I'm going to stick with on 650 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,360 this. I love it, man, I love it. 651 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,280 It's it's, it's really cool. And shout out to Steph. 652 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,840 You know, like I said, she got her new podcast and what have 653 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,120 you. I, I appreciate seeing her 654 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,040 involved in WWE in some capacity again. 655 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,800 I always felt that it was rotten that she wasn't with the company 656 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,280 anymore and all that good stuff there. 657 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,240 So to see her back and doing something and, and, you know, 658 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,640 watching these interviews and seeing how much everyone really 659 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,800 enjoys talking to her, I can tell that she's treated people 660 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,520 really well. You know which, kudos to that. 661 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,480 Yes, she did. She's a true champ. 662 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200 Yep, she was a true champ. Kudos to that. 663 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,360 Listen, I, I, I asked you about the Dixie Carter photo and we 664 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,280 can kind of end on this here. The photo was taken at, at Hulk 665 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,560 Hogan's going home service, his, his, his funeral, just about 666 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,160 anyone and everyone was there, yourself included. 667 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,840 So, so let me just ask you directly, man, and I'm not 668 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120 trying to, I'm not trying to bring you down the wrong Rd. so 669 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,120 to speak, But overall, I mean, how was that experience? 670 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,760 Did do you feel like the send off was, was appropriate for the 671 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,440 Hulkster and all that good stuff there? 672 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,640 How did it go, man? Well, yeah, I thought the send 673 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,440 off was was great for Hulk, you know, not wanting to touch on 674 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,000 anything and start trending stupidly again for stuff that 675 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,680 shouldn't be trending in the 1st place. 676 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,800 But you know, I mean, a lot of people were there and they paid 677 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,840 their respects. Names that I haven't seen in a 678 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,840 long time, names that I grew up watching that I had never met. 679 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,040 And it's always sad that there are times like that that brings 680 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,640 you to either meeting someone or associating yourself again with 681 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,720 people you know again. But it's just sad that it took 682 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,160 that to do it. And that's what me and Dixie 683 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,880 were talking about because I hadn't seen Dixie in years, I 684 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,760 think since I left and walked out of TNA's doors right after I 685 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,560 got pinned with the Loser Leaves town match with Aces and Eights 686 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,080 and the TNA guys. I hadn't seen Dixie since then. 687 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,240 So we had said little things to each other here and there in 688 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:15,600 text and said little things to each other during post that I 689 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,680 would post on about the kids and stuff. 690 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,840 Other than that, we had never really, we hadn't seen each 691 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,720 other in a while. So it was kind of like a 692 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,880 reunion. And, you know, the, it was the, 693 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,640 the, the, what was the word I'm looking for? 694 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,160 The hard feelings that I might have had for the company during 695 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,000 that time was all washed away, you know, and again I say it 696 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,160 wasn't the new regime of TNA. It was the old regime that I had 697 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:50,600 problems letting go of my feelings with them and you know, 698 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,000 I was just happy that I was able to let that go and to be good 699 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,080 with Dixie again because I really enjoyed Dixie. 700 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,960 I really enjoyed her company and what she did for Bubba and 701 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,160 myself during the time when we couldn't come to an agreement 702 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,680 with the contract with WWEI was just very happy that we buried 703 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,640 or that I buried. I should say everything because 704 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,400 I don't think Dixie really knew how I felt, you know, because I 705 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,600 was very hurt by the company and what they were doing with me at 706 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,320 the time. Before the Aces and Eights and 707 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,320 before the television run with the television title. 708 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,760 You know, it was, it was like after me and Bubba did our 709 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,040 little feud in TNA where the Motor City Machine Guns had beat 710 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,240 us and we started into retirement. 711 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,040 Then of course we started a feud with Bubba. 712 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,240 That was when things went sour for me in TNA and I felt a 713 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:51,760 certain way about it and why it went that way. 714 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,320 So I was able to let go finally when I saw Dixie and we talked, 715 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,960 we laughed, we joked and we said, you know, we shouldn't. 716 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,600 It shouldn't be things like this that brings us together. 717 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,400 We had more good times than we have then we did bad times. 718 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,560 So that's what these dirt sheet riders and all of these clowns 719 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,200 out there that write things that have no business writing, that's 720 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,000 what you should think about. We're family. 721 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,360 I'm sorry you couldn't be a part of that and all you did was 722 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,240 watch it on TV. But there was a sense of 723 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:27,800 closeness between us when we work together, put each other's 724 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,800 lives in each other's hands. But you just want to focus on 725 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,600 the drama. You want to focus on if we have 726 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,840 fights or say something inappropriate and we don't get 727 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,520 along, you want to focus on that. 728 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,520 And that's wrong. You know, just like I tell the 729 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,440 story about New Jack. Sure, there were things that was 730 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,360 said that I said and that he said. 731 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,120 But you know what? Before that feud even happened 732 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,680 between Jack and I, we were family. 733 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,840 We hung out. He slept at my house, I slept at 734 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,160 his house. He knew my kids, you know, my 735 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,120 wife at the time, you know, we were family. 736 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,040 But all you do is harvest over the disagreement or what we're 737 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,520 going through at that particular point in time with each other. 738 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,360 You don't look at the other stuff that we went through as 739 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,920 friends, as family, the only one look at the bad things. 740 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840 And if that's how you're going to live your life, then that's 741 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,200 you. But don't put me in that 742 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,320 category. And again, I can't express 743 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,440 enough how happy I am that me and Dixie got the talk. 744 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,600 And it was sad that it was on that day, but we got the talk 745 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,240 and we let things go. We move on. 746 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,960 And that was the that was the whole thing I was saying about 747 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,320 the whole Hogan thing. We got to move on. 748 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,840 We have to have some type of clarity on things that might 749 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,480 have hurt us. How do we move on from it? 750 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,560 How do we learn to forgive, not forget? 751 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,720 Because history proves that when you forget, you tend to repeat 752 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:58,520 it. We can forgive, Hogan. 753 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,280 We don't have to forget, but we can forgive, especially when 754 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,000 it's sincere, if it is sincere. So, you know, I've learned to 755 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,120 forgive people over the years for things that I felt that was 756 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,400 done wrong to me. And I'm not going to sit there 757 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,680 and let hurt or anger consume me because you feel as an 758 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440 individual that I should hold on to that. 759 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,320 And I'm just not going to do that. 760 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:31,720 To check out Zencaster ZENCASTR that is my favorite program to 761 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:36,120 use for all my recording needs and the great part is not only 762 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,840 do they have audio, but they also have video options as well. 763 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,000 So whether you're at video conferencing podcasting, just 764 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,320 catching up with friends and loved ones, you definitely want 765 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,760 to check out Zencaster. They have a paid subscriptions. 766 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,920 They also have a free version which I'm actually. 767 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,800 Using right now. Transcripts the whole 9 yards 768 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,800 and. Even. 769 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,880 Get this, Zencaster has started to do hosting. 770 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,480 So for all you podcasters out there, if you're looking for a 771 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,680 host for your show, please consider Zencaster. 772 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,800 You will not regret it. I'm telling you right now, once 773 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,880 again, ZENCASTR made on Zencaster. 774 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:29,960 That's right. Eric had let me know that he was 775 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,640 very, very appreciative of what you said because you didn't have 776 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,000 to say it and it went a long way. 777 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,240 You know, when people are talking about Bischoff, most of 778 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,400 the time they're saying something negative, kicking the 779 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,600 guy. Half of these fans, more than 780 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520 half, most of these fans, they they're just regurgitating stuff 781 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,240 that Meltzer and some of these other dirt cheap people that 782 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,360 have a bone to pick with Eric because Eric wouldn't give them 783 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,600 the access that they wanted. You know, there's a lot of 784 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,080 behind the scenes reasons why Eric gets the negative attention 785 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,200 that he gets. And I think it's unfair, quite 786 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,960 frankly, not to say that he was perfect. 787 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,520 He definitely earns some of the heat that some of the wrestlers 788 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,400 give him who worked under him and all that good stuff. 789 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,680 But how many years ago was that? You know what I mean? 790 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:20,760 So, so again, for you on your platform to shout Eric out the 791 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,640 way that you did and to talk about how much he helped you and 792 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,680 your family, just going to bat for you and sticking up for you, 793 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:32,120 it was a big deal. So I'm telling you that I know 794 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,080 you and Eric will speak at some point soon and he'll he'll relay 795 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040 that to you himself. But any thoughts on that just 796 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,080 from a general standpoint? Well, I meant every word I said. 797 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,000 You know, listen, I wasn't there during the whole NWO run. 798 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,160 I wasn't in WCWI, was in ECW, but I didn't know Eric then. 799 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:58,920 And so by the time Eric got to CNA, all these horrible things 800 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560 were said about him. Now, did he do some people 801 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,640 wrong? Probably. 802 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,520 Was some of the things justified with some people? 803 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,320 Probably. You know, this business has big 804 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,400 egos sometimes. You got to put these guys in 805 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,280 place. Listen, Bennis McMahon did the 806 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,800 same thing. A lot of guys hated Vince who 807 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,000 worked for him because Vince wasn't going to allow anybody to 808 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,880 step on him. It's his vision, it's his 809 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,800 company. He's going to do what he feels 810 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,120 is best for his company. And if that's how it works, then 811 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,600 guess what? He's paying a paycheck. 812 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,160 So boom. Same thing in WCW. 813 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,520 Might have been Turner, who was the head boss in terms of 814 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,120 financially, but it was Eric who was the boss at that time. 815 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,840 Could Eric have made some wrong decisions along the way? 816 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,320 Absolutely, but Eric, I heard in an interview said it best. 817 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,760 He was like, you know, I know I must might have messed up a few 818 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,400 times, you know, and I did it wrong and some people haven't 819 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,880 forgiven me for what I have done. 820 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,120 I said, but I truly am sorry. But business was business back 821 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,360 then. Look, it was a doggy dog world 822 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600 back then and you either swam or you sank. 823 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,200 That's just the way it was back then. 824 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,280 So, you know, visual, you know, carrying the company the way he 825 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,520 did it with Hall, Kevin and Hogan, you know, it was big back 826 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,320 then. So who's the saying that you 827 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,240 wouldn't mess up along the way? All I know is that the Eric 828 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:26,640 Bischoff that I met in TNA. No. 829 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,000 What if that same person that some of these guys who badmouth 830 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,800 him saw, I didn't see that. I saw what he gave to me when I 831 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,520 first met him. You know, it was funny. 832 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:44,040 I will tell this story. I didn't know Bischoff then, and 833 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,360 I'm only hearing things that I had heard from other people. 834 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,680 So they were doing a backstage promo with somebody. 835 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,200 I might have been AJ Styles and somebody I don't remember, but 836 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:01,280 he announced quiet on the set and I was back there and my 837 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,800 phone rang. It was all silent and I was talk 838 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,280 and I answered it and I was talking as I'm talking. 839 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,320 I'm thinking that he couldn't hear me and he said damn it. 840 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,440 I said quiet on the set and I said let me call you back. 841 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,240 I hung up the phone and I looked at him and he looked at me. 842 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,240 He was like I'm I'm trying to do this. 843 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,600 I'm trying to this. We got to get this done. 844 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,280 I said, OK man, not a problem. And I remember that was the 845 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,360 first interaction that me and Eric had. 846 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,800 I don't know if he remembers that, but you know, I was like, 847 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,600 all right, man, whatever, I'll keep quiet. 848 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,000 And that way it was funny. And then I remember that as 849 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,480 clear as day. I don't know if he does. 850 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:48,040 But then, you know, like I said, time had went on and I started 851 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,800 working with him and doing things with him. 852 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,720 And I was like, this ain't the same Eric that everybody's 853 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,680 talking about. And I was like, this is 854 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,320 something different about this Eric. 855 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,880 I was like, I see the change. I see everything. 856 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,280 I see the opposite of what everybody's saying and I came to 857 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,320 the conclusion that maybe he was a different person back then, 858 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,440 but he's not that same Eric now. And you know, as far as I'm 859 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,640 concerned, I have no ill feelings whatsoever towards that 860 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,600 man. Like I said before, he helped me 861 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,720 and my family and I've got nothing but respect for him. 862 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,120 Every time I see him, whether my back is turned and I don't know 863 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,240 he's in the room, he makes it an effort to come and say hello to 864 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:31,880 Devon. Where certain times when your 865 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,840 back is turned and someone you think is your friend doesn't 866 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,560 acknowledge you or says hello to you, even when your back is 867 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,840 turned to me, that speaks volumes. 868 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680 But Eric made the point. Every time I'm in a room and my 869 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,360 back is turned, I don't know he's there. 870 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,160 He's like, Yvonne, how you doing? 871 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,440 I turn around and it's like, I'm like, hey, we know. 872 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,200 We embrace, we hug, we say hello, how you doing? 873 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,560 How's the family and all of that? 874 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,000 You know, and me and his son Garrett, we hit it off great 875 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,160 when he was in Aces and Eights. We hung out all the time. 876 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,960 All the time we hung out and we were hanging out even after Ace 877 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,880 and Eights was done, after I left TNA. 878 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,320 So him and I had a great relationship. 879 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,680 And, you know, it was just one of those things where, again, 880 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,240 we're family, man. We're family. 881 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:22,880 That's all I could say. We we, we saw each other more 882 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,480 than we saw our own families. We had we worked together, we 883 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,080 did what we did. We made magic. 884 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,320 We we had fun and we made money in the process. 885 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,440 So I've got nothing but love and respect for Eric and thank him 886 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,200 all the time. You got to know me a little bit. 887 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,080 You got to know a little bit about my background and how I 888 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,640 was raised. And he was impressed. 889 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,480 He was like, Devon, I never knew that about you. 890 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,920 He goes, that's why I like you. That's it. 891 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,600 Thank you, Eric. I appreciate that, you know, 892 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,640 because you know me coming from a biblical family and how I am, 893 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,320 you know, he really respected that. 894 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,480 So again, I got nothing but love for Eric, man. 895 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,680 You know, folks listening, we all can, can fall into the trap 896 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,360 of speaking ill and negatively about people, especially people 897 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,800 piss us off and, and generally do something that warrants us to 898 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,240 express ill feelings towards them and what have you. 899 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,560 And that's always loud and, and, and boisterous and what have 900 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,640 you. I beg of you, everybody out 901 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:34,760 there, please be as loud and as boisterous about the positive 902 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,000 things about people, especially people who don't necessarily 903 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,760 always get shouted out. You'd never know how that can 904 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,080 affect somebody because we're all going through something. 905 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,480 We're all carrying the weight of the world in our own ways. 906 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:56,160 We're all one banana peel away from, from losing it all. 907 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,800 Whatever you got, it's nice to to be acknowledged. 908 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,520 It's nice when somebody has something positive to say about 909 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,520 you, especially when you're not expecting it. 910 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,400 So, you know, I'm going to, I'm just going to put that out there 911 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,760 in the in the, in the atmosphere, so to speak. 912 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,360 Don't hesitate to shout somebody out and let them know how 913 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,520 they've impacted your life and how you feel about them. 914 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,840 That's my take, the big man. What's the best way everyone can 915 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,400 keep up with you and all the great things you got going on? 916 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,240 Yeah, well, you know, I have my YouTube channel which is doing 917 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,760 extremely well, very proud of it. 918 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:40,080 Been going since December, I believe of 2024 and I'm already 919 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:46,360 at a 175,577 subscribers on my YouTube channel. 920 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,040 I want to thank the fans and everybody that subscribes and 921 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,200 writes their likes and comments down below. 922 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,400 Thank you. We do read them and we do 923 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,760 understand what you're saying. So thank you very much. 924 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,920 That's one way you can find out what I'm doing. 925 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,080 Also. I'm also on Instagram and that 926 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:09,680 Instagram is testified. Vivon, you know, it's D-V 927 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:19,080 ONWDUDLEY, it's testified Devon Dudley on Instagram and of 928 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,640 course on Twitter. My Facebook is private only 929 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,680 friends and family all out on them. 930 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,880 Sorry guys, but that's just the way it is. 931 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,480 We also, I also have any website which is Devon Dudley Academy 932 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,640 for my wrestling school. And if you're interested in 933 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,840 wrestling and you want to see if you got what it takes to become 934 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,240 a professional wrestler, and by all means, give us a call at D 935 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,720 Von W Academy. We can definitely try to make 936 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:55,720 your dreams come true. 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Well said, well said folks, 949 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,920 definitely make sure you check out Devon Academy. 950 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,360 All of you aspiring wrestlers and even all you wrestlers who 951 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,000 need a tune up you, you, you know you're on the you're on the 952 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,640 the second-half of your career would have you where you you 953 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,760 need to sharpen up. It is amazing the names that you 954 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,560 see that that come through Devon Academy folks that you see on TV 955 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,040 regularly. It's, it's, it's the truth. 956 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,200 And there's a reason why those folks are are stopping by and, 957 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,080 and getting some extra training and what have you. 958 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,480 It's worth it for sure. Duke loves wrestling on Facebook 959 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,080 on twitter.dukeloveswrestling@gmail.com. 960 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,080 As always, let me know what you think of the show. 961 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,480 All that good stuff there and you know, leading up to Bound 962 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,000 for Glory. I'm going to put this out here, 963 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:35,120 Devon, for all of you, you folks who have shows, if you would 964 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,800 like to interview Devon, obviously reach out to Devon 965 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,280 directly. You can also reach out to me and 966 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,080 I'll make sure he gets the information. 967 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,920 He has a very tight schedule. Can't get to everybody, but you 968 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,960 know, some of you out there may be able to land yourself an 969 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,400 interview with with the Hall of Famer here is it's amazing. 970 00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,960 It's amazing the demand that's out there for Devon Dudley and 971 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,560 there's a good reason for that. So certainly don't hesitate, get 972 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,720 your requests in as soon as possible because especially with 973 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,040 that match going on, there's a lot of requests out there. 974 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,960 Everyone wants to pick your brain, Devon. 975 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,240 That's that's the way it is now, man. 976 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,280 Oh yeah, I'm happy for it. You know, I was happy to be at 977 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,360 Summer Slam, the 26th anniversary of the TLC match and 978 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,120 that TLC match that was done at Summer Slam. 979 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,960 Excellent. Everybody's part excellent. 980 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,800 So many bodies. They told a great story. 981 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,400 They did some hell of a bumps. Thank God it was them and not 982 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,480 me. That's all I'm going to say. 983 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,680 I would. Think I said, man, Can you 984 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,280 imagine beating that match? That match was crazy. 985 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,280 No, I cannot no and the dirt sheet riders want to put that 986 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,840 out, Devon said. He ain't doing no damn TLC 987 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,320 match. Hell to the no. 988 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,960 I'll be like Medea and have my Glock in my pocket. 989 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,960 Yeah, I have my I have my Glock in my purse like Medea does. 990 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,240 I wish your mother would ask if you could like that. 991 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,600 Listen, Tyler Perry, you call Devon, man. 992 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840 I know you got a role for him. You call Devon up now. 993 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,520 Come on. Please. 994 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,200 Please, please. All right, It's that time of the 995 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,560 week now, brother. What is your word of the week to 996 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,280 take us out? Well, I'm going to say this and 997 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,360 it's something I've said before and I might even have said it in 998 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,240 the interview today because it holds so true. 999 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,880 You know, let it's biblical. 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