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Aaron and Danny, to lifelong 
best friends, take turns picking

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topics. 
Then they see where it ends. 

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So wild. 
It's weird and sometimes 

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specific. 
Whatever it is, you know it will

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be terrific. 
It's hyperfixation time. 

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All right, welcome to 
hyperfixation time. 

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I'm Aaron. 
And I'm Danny. 

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And this is the podcast where we
take turns, keep diving into 

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something that we are interested
in that's completely random. 

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It's usually topics that are 
weird or wild or just kind of 

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random and the other person 
doesn't know what the topic is 

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going to be for that week. 
So this week is Danny's week. 

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Nothing's off limits. 
So I believe you said last time 

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it may be a location. 
Is that right? 

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I believe my clue to you was 
that I would take us like around

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the world a bit. 
Yes, OK, interesting. 

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I mean, if you see the title of 
this video, you already know 

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where this is going. 
But yeah. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
But Aaron doesn't. 

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I don't know right now. 
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mention is that me and you have 
both put in a lot of work on the

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podcast over the last week and 
like you apparently got it so 

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that now our podcast is on all 
the platforms. 

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Is that correct? 
I think so. 

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It's everything that Spotify 
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should be there. 
And actually tomorrow is the 

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test. 
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I'm hoping it'll work. 
The platforms OK. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So you have to see. 

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If you prefer a different 
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I don't know what else there is,
but apparently people use other 

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things. 
Amazon That makes sense. 

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Amazon's one big one. 
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That seems like a pretty big 
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That makes sense. 
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So yeah, share us with, you 
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on different platforms as well. 
And then also, if you're 

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watching the video of this, you 
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video that I made spent some 
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So I hope you all enjoy. 
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form. 
I think this is that's only on 

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YouTube now, right? 
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But thank you so much for doing 
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That was so awesome. 
I sent it to my sisters and they

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were like, this is epic. 
I can't like, so cool that you 

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guys have this. 
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Thanks, Aaron Sisters. 
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starting. 
Yeah, we did a ton of work like 

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you said, so. 
Yeah, that was pretty much. 

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I appreciate all my updates. 
Oh, we have a Facebook page now 

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too, so go ahead and like us 
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Find us on Facebook as well. 
Thank you Danny for putting that

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up. 
My dad is always the first to 

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like. 
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Every poster picture which I 
appreciate, so thanks dad. 

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I love it. 
Well, I had that funny story. 

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Well, it's not funny. 
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Weird. 
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Like it's funny only because it 
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Like everything's fine, but in 
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OK, I understand. 
OK, so we were going to PJ's 

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parents for just like a get 
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thing just planned like couple 
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they live and they were making 
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part and I'm not a huge fan of 
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So I was like OK, great, that's 
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And I will also make like a 
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So I was making said sandwich, 
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And I was like, well, OK, the 
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top of it. 
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pan, turned it up and all of 
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And then I was like, oh, some 
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Oh my God. 
I have not talked tonight. 

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I'm so sorry. 
You're fine. 

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Some lemon juice would be great 
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minimalist when it comes to 
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Yeah. 
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Like olive oil, salt, pepper and
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So I put some lemon juice in the
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went up in flames. 
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That sounds scary. 
It was very scary. 

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past that. 
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Very, yeah, very big. 
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think that the oil was too hot 
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juice. 
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Interesting. 
I learned that cuz I cuz you can

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and cook with the two together. 
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happened. 
So it completely torched our 

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control panel of our microwave 
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Wasn't there something with that
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Yes, we had already bought a 
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for the same reason, but like 
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underneath the control panel, 
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affected the that so much. 
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of like shorted the control 
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of when we moved in and then 
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So now I. 
Whoops. 

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But OK, my questions 1 Like you 
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Like you, I mean obviously like 
So what it was just, I don't 

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know, like you just weren't in 
the line of it. 

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Yeah. 
So you don't really know how 

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you're gonna react in those 
situations. 

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Yeah, because I'm totally fine 
and that's lucky. 

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And there's besides that control
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that is damaged. 
Like I'm really lucky that our 

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cabinets, we have like papers 
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Like the? 
Inside and I grabbed the pan, 

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which it had like a, you know, 
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pulled it off and turned on the 
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it went away. 
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Whole thing down basically. 
OK, Yep, that's what my other 

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Yes, it went down. 

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you know, in general. 
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I apparently scream when 
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which is just like instead of 
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I don't know, girly scream. 
It's so I was yelling pitch like

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this for some reason and he 
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Oh, my dogs barked when I did 
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attention, I guess. 
But he tried, like he pulled 

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his, he said he pulled his 
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like, I didn't hear anything 
after that. 

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I'm like, yeah, cuz it was a 
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I don't blame him obviously, but
almost started my whole kitchen.

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Oh my gosh. 
Well, I'm glad it all worked 

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out. 
Yeah, very lucky nothing got 

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like severely burned. 
That would have been, yeah, that

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would have been so shocking. 
Like, I don't know, I just. 

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I don't know. 
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What do you do in that moment? 
So I guess a word of caution, if

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your olive oil is too hot, do 
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OK. 
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that it actually is that 
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take that too. 
Cool. 

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That's it. 
Almost started my kitchen on 

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fire, but the meal was 
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Nice. 
That's good. 

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It was. 
So good and I'm mad because not 

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enough people got to enjoy it. 
You know, you texted me about 

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the salmon and so I was like, 
well, I know you couldn't have 

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fucked it up too bad because. 
No, I and I, because I hadn't 

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put the salmon. 
Yeah, I hadn't put the salmon in

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the pan at that point. 
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to get it hot so I can like, 
sear the top of it or make it 

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crispy. 
Yep. 

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That's funny. 
That's my story. 

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I enjoyed it, thank you. 
Do you want to talk about your 

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microfixation first or second? 
Sure. 

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Yeah, I'll go first. 
OK. 

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Mine is the podcast called 
Beth's Dead. 

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OK, Have you heard of Sorry? 
I thought you were going to be 

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like our podcast. 
And our podcast as well. 

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It's all. 
Dead. 

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No, I haven't heard of that. 
Oh my God, I feel like I'm 

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interrupting you so much today 
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I need to do spaces in between 
what I'm saying for sure. 

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So it's not just you, but no, 
Beth's Dead is a podcast that 

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what is done by Monica Padman, 
who is of armchair expert and a 

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few other podcasts and I binge 
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So it's really interesting. 
I don't think I agree with the 

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outcome of like that whole 
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OK. 
I I but I still recommend it do.

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You want to give like a summary 
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It's hard because there's a 
twist to it, so. 

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Well, I don't like, Can you just
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Like what even is it? 
Is this a true story? 

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Is it like a fictional tale? 
What are we talking about here? 

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It's a true story and it's, 
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parasocial relationships. 
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So I'll leave it, I think, at 
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But it's very interesting. 
I'll check it out. 

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Yeah, I don't know, I sent it to
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What is your micro fixation? 
I have been totally fixated on 

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playing with my son's Christmas 
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Which one? 
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Do you remember what like a 
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into like a shape or something 
like that, or into whatever you 

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want, depending on what it looks
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Basically you put like a marker 
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then you like follow the circle 
guide thing like you said and 

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then it creates like a spiral 
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shape you use or like which size
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like they come out different. 
So here if you're watching the 

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video, you can see my little 
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They're like mandalas. 
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Leon loves it, but so do I. 
And then the last one. 

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And the most fun for me? 
Even more fun than the 

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Spirograph has. 
Been like it could get funner. 

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Has been the Astrobot game for 
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Oh my God that game is so much 
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It's just like it's just pure 
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That is the whole game. 
Is it and he can hire like just.

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Yeah, we we've been doing it 
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That's awesome. 
I love that. 

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He's just like a little gamer 
too, I know. 

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I mean, not that I. 
Expected anything different, 

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right? 
That's so fun. 

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I had a friend who's playing 
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I recommend it to anyone like 
it's so fun. 

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Is it main topic time? 
Main topic time. 

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All right, do you feel like 
taking a gander at a topic? 

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A gander or a guess? 
A gander? 

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That is a guess. 
I'm taking a gander. 

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'S like. 
I think a gander is when you 

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look at something like no 
specifically. 

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I'm going to look this up. 
Laundry machine Gant. 

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I'm like so confused right now. 
No, like it says that. 

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You're right. 
I guess in my head it was like, 

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like take a try like. 
That makes sense. 

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I can see that it's pretty 
close. 

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I'm like confusing my whole life
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I'm so no. 
And it's weird because after the

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whole like washing machine 
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washing machine. 
That's like what I've been 

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saying naturally, like without 
thinking about it, you know, And

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that makes sense. 
I mess with my words sometimes. 

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That's OK. 
That's OK. 

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I don't mean to like, call you 
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No, it's fine. 
I would. 

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I don't like being wrong, not 
like in the way that like I 

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don't want to like. 
I would rather you tell me, you 

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know what I mean. 
Like I don't want to be like out

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here looking stupid so. 
You don't look stupid either 

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way. 
There's no, there's no reason, 

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but you're yeah, it's very close
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glance is what Gander means. 
Like The thing is like, I think 

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I know that, but I just feel 
like I just said it. 

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In a weird way in that in that 
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Yeah, whatever. 
Moving on. 

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Well, real quick, it's also a 
male goose. 

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That's yes, a gander is a male 
goose. 

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OK, I have nothing. 
That's totally fair. 

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You're not going to guess it. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, I got nothing. 
I'm ready to to ready. 

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To hear it. 
Hear it? 

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Yes, please. 
OK, well today we're going to be

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talking about the new 7 Wonders 
of the World list. 

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That's a thing. 
That's the thing. 

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Wow, I didn't realize I'm gonna.
Get into it. 

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So I guess when you hear wonders
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of like, do you know any of the 
wonders? 

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This is kind of a trick question
also, so I'll get into that, 

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but. 
Isn't there like a garden? 

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Are the pyramids part of it or 
that is Sphinx or something one 

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of those? 
Yeah, this tells me that you're 

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going to learn a lot today, I 
think. 

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Yes. 
So the pyramid is actually one 

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of the ancient 7 wonders of the 
world. 

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That is one of the Ogs, and it's
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world that's still standing. 
All the other six don't exist 

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anymore. 
Really. 

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Yep. 
Wow, they are ancient. 

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This original list, and I'll 
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in ancient Greece. 
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and then there's like a modern. 
Is it just two then like 2 

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separate lists? 
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generally 3 different lists. 
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of the world, you're either 
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ancient wonders of the world, 
one of the new 7 wonders of the 

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world, which we're going to talk
about today, or one of the 

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natural wonders of the world, 
the seven naturals. 

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So the first two that I 
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new ones, those are all like 
these are all man made wonders 

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essentially. 
OK, OK. 

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And then there's also the 
natural wonders. 

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So originally I was like, let me
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those lists today. 
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quickly was like, I'm just so 
silly. 

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There's no way. 
I'm already struggling with one 

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of these lists to talk about it 
in our time span. 

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You know what I mean? 
Yeah, too much. 

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Too much to commit to. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

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But let me first start by just 
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interest of mine. 
So it was 2019. 

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I went to the Grand Canyon with 
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That is where he proposed to me.
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experiences where you're just in
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I mean, it's like, obviously one
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about the Grand Canyon is it's 
just like, it's just so big and 

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you just can't tell unless 
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mean? 
Yep. 

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And so, yeah, it's just kind of,
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awe. 
And I knew like, oh, that's one 

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of the wonders of the world, you
know? 

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And so like, I want to go to all
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It really is. 
That's one of the natural 

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wonders. 
Yep. 

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The natural but it's man made, 
isn't it the. 

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Grand Canyon. 
Oh, grandkid I'm thinking of. 

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I'm thinking of the Hoover Dam. 
That's. 

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What you're like, wow, what a 
romantic proposal at the Hoover 

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Dam. 
Hey I've I've heard that it does

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also bring people to. 
No, but damn it's funny. 

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Damn, did you mean to throw that
in there? 

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Damn, it's funny. 
OK. 

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The Grand Canyon. 
Yes, OK, makes. 

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A little bit more sense now. 
Yes it does. 

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Yeah, this is what happens when 
me and Aaron make this podcast 

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too late at night. 
Yep. 

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Anyways, out of it. 
So it's one of the natural 

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wonders of the world. 
But at the time, like I just had

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it in my head, you know, it's 
one of the wonders of the world 

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because that's just a term that 
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Like we're saying, like, people 
don't know these official lists,

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right? 
And it really made me and Dwight

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basically want to visit all the 
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And so that was when I, like, 
kind of looked into this a 

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little bit more and kind of got 
some of this knowledge that I'm 

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going to be talking about today.
But I am also just a huge 

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stickler for lists. 
I am obsessed with lists all the

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time. 
It's like I'm going to do all of

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the things on this list. 
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have to go to all the wonders of
the world. 

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You know what I mean? 
I see. 

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Yeah. 
But obviously, like I said when 

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I looked into the list a little 
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natural wonder, and there's the 
three different lists. 

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And I will, I think, eventually 
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in future episodes. 
So I do think that this is going

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to be like a three-part episode 
eventually. 

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I'm not doing it consecutive 
back-to-back for my episodes 

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anyways. 
But so yeah, let's get into the 

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new 7 Wonders of the World. 
Each of these easily could have 

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their own episode in of in and 
of itself. 

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So bear with me that these 
descriptions are going to be 

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brief and not going to cover all
the history. 

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And I know that there's more 
that I could be saying about 

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them, if that makes sense. 
Reminder again, we are not 

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experts, nor do we try to be, 
but yeah, no, I, yeah, like last

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week when I did my New Year's 
things, it's like there's so 

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much more I could get into, but 
you have to. 

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Limit it somewhere. 
Yes, exactly. 

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OK, I'm ready. 
So we're going to do that. 

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And then after that I will talk 
about like the creation of these

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lists, which is just a lot more 
interesting than you would think

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it would be. 
Really. 

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OK. 
I think anyways listener over 

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here okay so these aren't in any
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with the Great Wall of China is 
one of them. 

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So this is the longest human 
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It's the only work built by 
humans that you can see from the

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moon. 
I've seen a few disputes on how 

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long it is, but there's the 
UNESCO heritage website said 

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that it has a total length of 
more than 20,000 kilometers, 

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which would be 12,427 miles. 
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China all the way through 
southern Mongolia. 

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It was built 220 BC. 
So long ago, sections of earlier

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fortifications were joined 
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defense system against invasions
from the north. 

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And this is the craziest thing 
to me. 

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The construction of it took over
2 millennia. 

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Seriously. 
Seriously. 

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Like. 
Like in pieces, obviously, like 

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just kind of overtime. 
But I mean, it makes sense for 

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how big it is. 
Yeah, it's that big and taxes 

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and all that probably goes into 
it. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
It's just crazy. 

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I just keep picturing the movie 
Mulan. 

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OK, there you go. 
Let me know all your movie 

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references to all of these, 
because there's a few. 

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OK. 
All right. 

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OK, so the next one on the list 
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which is in Rio de Janeiro, 
Brazil. 

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That is the giant statue of 
Jesus that basically towers over

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the entire city. 
Construction of this began in 

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1926 and took five years to 
build, which feels a lot less. 

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Impressive after carried the 
Great Wall of China. 

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To millennia, Yeah. 
Isn't, isn't he like this? 

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Like he's like holding his arms 
out or something. 

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Yeah, like, I'd say like more 
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straight out across. 
Like a hug, Yeah. 

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So he stands on the peak of 
Mount Cor Cavado and he stands 

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2300 feet above the city. 
He is 98 feet tall from head to 

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toe, plus another 26 feet for 
basically just the pedestal part

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of it. 
And his like, arms reaching out 

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like you said, is 92 feet long. 
Whoa. 

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He's the largest art Deco 
sculpture in the world and made 

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of reinforced concrete. 
I don't know that you've been to

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any of these, like I don't think
you have, but I don't know all 

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your travels. 
So let me know, of course, if 

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you've been to any of these as 
we're going. 

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Yeah, I haven't been there, but 
I've seen pictures of it and I 

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feel like it's one of those 
things as well, that you just 

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can't fathom how big it is until
you're there. 

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True, but it feels like 
welcoming. 

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Did you get into like the 
history of? 

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Like why that one was built? 
Or like why he's hiding? 

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Out why and why yeah, don't you 
think it feels welcoming a 

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little bit like. 
I find it creepy, to be honest. 

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I'm not a big fan of like big 
statues like that. 

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They kind of creep me out. 
There's like a term for that, 

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like megalophobia or something 
like that. 

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OK. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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No that. 
Makes it gives me the creeps a 

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little bit. 
So I've never thought it, I've 

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never looked at it and been 
like, wow, that's so welcoming. 

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So we need, we need to move on. 
So no, just no, it's fine I. 

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Again, he's getting triggered. 
Easily go into the depth of 

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these a lot more, but I didn't 
really look into into those 

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questions there. 
OK. 

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Yeah. 
No, that's all good. 

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All right, just curious. 
No worries. 

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So the next one is Machu Picchu,
which is nestled in the Andes 

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Mountains in Peru. 
It's the lost city of the Incas,

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and it was mysteriously 
abandoned around the 15th 

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century. 
Its purpose is very mysterious, 

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like there's not there's just 
not a lot known about Machu 

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Picchu that they can confirm. 
One of the possible purposes was

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that it was called the Virgins 
of the Son, which would be for 

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convent women that took a vow of
chastity. 

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Like nuns that are agreeing to 
not have sex. 

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Yeah, right. 
The Virgins of the Sun. 

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It was possibly a pilgrimage 
site, or it was possibly a royal

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retreat. 
I. 

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Don't know. 
So what that made me think of 

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was El Dorado, and I don't know 
if that's a real. 

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You're getting ahead of 
yourself, OK? 

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Don't don't even get there yet. 
This. 

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The City of Gold. 
Machu Picchu is one of the only 

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pre Columbian ruins nearly 
intact still. 

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Nearly. 
Machu Picchu I feel like 

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personally connected to, even 
though I've never been there. 

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And the reason why is because 
when Dwight and I, after we went

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to the Grand Canyon and then we 
got engaged and we got married 

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in 2020, our original plans were
to go to Machu Picchu for our 

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honeymoon. 
So I did plan an entire trip to 

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Peru that was never used. 
So I kind of feel like I've been

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there just because I did so much
research, like I'm Peru and all 

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of that someday. 
OK, so the next one is Chichen 

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Itza. 
It's located in the jungles of 

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Mexico at the tip of the Yucatan
Peninsula. 

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It's an abandoned ancient Mayan 
city. 

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This is why I was saying you're 
getting ahead of yourself with 

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your El Dorado thoughts. 
So more about Chicha Nita. 

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It flourished in the 9th and 
10th centuries. 

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And basically when people think 
of Chicha Nita, they're thinking

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of that pyramid that's called El
Castillo, which means the 

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castle. 
But Chicha Nita is actually like

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the whole city, OK. 
And so there's more like ruins 

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and other interesting sites 
there than just this pyramid. 

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But the pyramid is really cool. 
It towers 79 feet above the main

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Plaza. 
And the Mayan culture was very 

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aware of astronomy. 
So the pyramid has 365 steps for

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each day of the year. 
And this is so cool on the 

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spring in autumnal equinox, the 
setting sun casts a shadow on 

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the pyramid that looks like a 
snake Slytherin down N stairway.

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And then there's like a stone 
snake at the base. 

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00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,480
So like it looks like the head 
and then the shadow of the 

455
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,120
stairs looks like the snake's 
body. 

456
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,480
Wow. 
So cool. 

457
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,640
Did you see a picture? 
I did. 

458
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,800
I looked it up because I was 
like, I need to look at what 

459
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,920
that looks like. 
You know what I mean? 

460
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:53,080
Insert picture here. 
But I that was so long ago and 

461
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,240
they are so much smarter than 
me. 

462
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520
I know. 
It's it's so impressive. 

463
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,240
And then like another 
interesting part of Chicha Nitza

464
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,080
is that they have the largest 
talk to Lee, which is a ball 

465
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480
court. 
You understand now where I'm 

466
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720
getting at with the road to El 
Dorado? 

467
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,360
You remember that movie, right? 
Yes, I have Road to El Dorado in

468
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,720
my notes. 
So basically the ball court is 

469
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,280
like a long rectangular shape 
with temples on the North and 

470
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,920
South side. 
And then there's these stone 

471
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,120
rings that are pretty high up 
where the rubber ball would go 

472
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,480
through. 
The rules to the game are like 

473
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,200
pretty unknown for the most 
part, but they kind of figured 

474
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,120
out some stuff just based off 
like based off of like pictorial

475
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,120
representations and stone 
monuments. 

476
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240
So they said like at the 
beginning of the game, a ball 

477
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,080
would be thrown onto the court 
with a hand, but then after 

478
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,760
that, they can only touch the 
ball like with their hips and 

479
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,160
thighs. 
And this was where I was just 

480
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,600
going to bring up the road to El
Dorado. 

481
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,800
I did look it up. 
It's not like based in Chichen 

482
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,880
Itza, but it took inspiration 
from a few different similar 

483
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,480
cultures and the Mayan 
civilization being one of them. 

484
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,640
OK, so I just had my nieces and 
nephews watch that movie really,

485
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:19,680
and it was very, I think I know 
every word nice and it oh God, 

486
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,840
it's just such a good movie. 
It's so. 

487
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,960
It was still good when on 
rewatch. 

488
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:25,600
Yes. 
Well, that's good. 

489
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,840
I still quote it, too. 
Like, one of the big quotes is 

490
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,240
the stars are not in position, 
like, to be able to do 

491
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,200
something. 
OK. 

492
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760
So like sometimes I'll just be 
like, yeah, the stars are just 

493
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,480
not in position. 
But anyway, I love that movie so

494
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,840
much. 
Yeah, it reminded me. 

495
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Like, I can picture that scene 
where. 

496
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,640
But in their case, they 
eventually switched the ball out

497
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,040
for the Armadillo to cheat at 
the game. 

498
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,520
OK, so moving on to the next 
wonder, we have the Roman 

499
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,640
Colosseum. 
This is the only one that I've 

500
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,680
been to on this list, and it's 
obviously located in Rome, 

501
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,400
Italy. 
It was built in the 1st century.

502
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,440
It's that giant Coliseum that 
features a complex system of 

503
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,160
vaults and holds up to 50,000 
spectators. 

504
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,840
It's famous for its gladiator 
fights. 

505
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,120
OK, and this is where it gets a 
little crazy to me. 

506
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,600
So there's some estimates that 
say that 500,000 people died 

507
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,800
there because of these fights. 
And then this is the other crazy

508
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,200
part. 
Apparently their other most 

509
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,680
popular like show that they 
would do at the Colosseum where 

510
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520
animal hunts or animal fighting 
in battles. 

511
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,880
So like men would kill exotic 
wild animals a lot of times like

512
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,440
spectators never even heard of 
these animals. 

513
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Like imagine you don't have 
access to the Internet. 

514
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,120
You're like, I don't know any. 
You can't even read. 

515
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:52,400
Maybe back then, I don't know. 
And it's just like, you see this

516
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,080
crazy looking animal come into 
the Coliseum and like, why would

517
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,960
you be like, I want to kill that
then you know what I mean? 

518
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,600
Yeah, it probably felt like 
otherworldly, I guess when you 

519
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,440
see that in person, I bet. 
That's very true. 

520
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,680
And sad. 
Sad that they had to kill them 

521
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,800
though. 
Yeah. 

522
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720
And so some of the animals that 
like basically they would use 

523
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,400
almost anything, but some of the
ones that they used would be 

524
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,440
elephants, lions, Panthers, 
crocodiles, rhinos, hippos, 

525
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,400
cheetahs, monkeys and bears. 
They would get animals from all 

526
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,360
over the world. 
And the crazy part, though, is 

527
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,440
that some animals disappeared 
from their natural habitats 

528
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,680
entirely and were brought to 
extinction. 

529
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Because of this. 
Yeah, like certain like species 

530
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,880
of the animals I mentioned 
literally were brought to 

531
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080
extinction because, oh, they 
haunted so many of them. 

532
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,960
That's so sad. 
It's. 

533
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Crazy. 
Just for human sport, which is. 

534
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,240
And it just goes to show we're, 
we're just still doing these 

535
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320
things in different ways now, 
you know? 

536
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,960
But yeah, you're right. 
So I just thought that was 

537
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,040
really interesting. 
Crazy. 

538
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,800
I'm just going to go cry for a 
little bit and then I'm just. 

539
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,240
Kidding. 
Moving on to the Taj Mahal. 

540
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Taj Mahal, all right. 
This is located in Agra, India. 

541
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,000
It's a mausoleum complex that 
was utilizing Moog Hall 

542
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,520
architecture and basically 
Emperor Shah Jahan wanted to 

543
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440
build this to honor his wife 
Mumtaz Mahal. 

544
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,400
He reigned from 1628 to 1658 and
he basically built it in honor 

545
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240
of her. 
She died in childbirth for their

546
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:34,520
14th child in 1631. 
Not funny, but not funny. 

547
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,280
That she died 14. 
Oh, my God. 

548
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,280
OK. 
Yeah. 

549
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,600
Well, I mean, that's beautiful 
that he built that in honor of 

550
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920
her. 
I mean, I've only seen pictures,

551
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,880
obviously, but like, it's. 
Yeah. 

552
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,560
I mean, it's intricate and very 
beautiful. 

553
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Yeah. 
He basically made her eternal. 

554
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Yeah, eternal. 
That's the word I'm looking for.

555
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Like we're talking about her 
today because of this, you know?

556
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,880
Yeah, yeah. 
And it took 22 years to build 

557
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,960
with 20,000 workers. 
It has an immense garden with a 

558
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,240
reflecting pool, that white 
marble exterior. 

559
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,840
And then it has semi precious 
stones in geometric and floral 

560
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,960
patterns, like you were saying, 
very intricate. 

561
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,800
And it has that, you know, 
central Dome, giant central Dome

562
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,560
surrounded by 4 smaller domes. 
This is one that I really want. 

563
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Like I want to go to all these 
places, but I I want to see it 

564
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:33,000
because I feel like it's so big,
you know, like it just looks 

565
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,240
crazy big. 
Yeah, your mind can't comprehend

566
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,080
like that big. 
What a beautiful thing for a 

567
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,560
husband to do for his wife and 
mother of fourteen children. 

568
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,520
And moving on to our last one on
the list, we have Petra, which 

569
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,160
is an ancient city in Jordan, 
located in a remote valley. 

570
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,640
It was home to the God. 
I looked up how to say this 

571
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,960
before. 
Naba. 

572
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,400
Naba Tans. 
Naba. 

573
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,720
Yeah. 
Nabateans. 

574
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,640
Sounded right to me. 
Thanks. 

575
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,200
It's often called the Rose City 
because of it being made of red 

576
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,760
rock. 
Also Petra means rock in Greek. 

577
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,080
And why this was like an 
important site. 

578
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,840
It was part of a major trade 
route, like a luxury trade out I

579
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,800
think, and especially spices. 
Oh, OK. 

580
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,640
It had a population of 30,000 at
its height and it was abandoned 

581
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,520
due to a couple like major 
earthquakes. 

582
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Sometime I was seeing like after
the year 551. 

583
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Like doesn't even feel like that
should be a year. 

584
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Seriously. 
Yeah. 

585
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,440
Can't even. 
Yeah. 

586
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Fab. 
And then when people like, if 

587
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,640
you say Petra, like typically 
what you're picturing is the 

588
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Treasury, which is Al Al Kazne 
and the basically that's that 

589
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,240
facade with Greek style pillars 
that's carved right into the 

590
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,320
rack wall. 
And that was built as early as 

591
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,040
the 4th century BC. 
Wow, OK, that's insane because I

592
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400
just looked up a picture too, 
and that's exactly what it pulls

593
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,680
up every time. 
It's like, yeah, all these 

594
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,120
pictures are the columns and all
of that carved into the mountain

595
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,240
side or it's very beautiful. 
This is really pretty, though. 

596
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,640
I'll put a picture up. 
Cool. 

597
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880
So cool story bro. 
No, I like it. 

598
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,600
So those are the new 7 Wonders 
of the world. 

599
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,080
And again, that original 7 
Wonders list was created in 2nd 

600
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,280
century BCE, so very old. 
And how this new list came to be

601
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,080
is that there's so there's a man
named Bernard Weber. 

602
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,520
He was born in Switzerland, 
eventually moved to Canada at 

603
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,680
some point. 
But he's the founder and 

604
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,120
president of New 7 Wonders. 
OK, so in 1999, he was a 

605
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,840
filmmaker and he was just kind 
of thinking of ways to like use 

606
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,080
the Internet and this new form 
of like connectedness that we 

607
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,840
had with the world. 
Just like, he just wanted to 

608
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,280
reach that global audience. 
And he was trying to think of 

609
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,960
like, what could do that? 
So he started thinking about 

610
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,440
this ancient list and he thought
he wanted to revive it. 

611
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,240
So in 2000 made it a Millennium 
project, called it the New 7 

612
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,120
Wonders, and he decided that he 
would ask the people of the 

613
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,400
world to choose and elect the 
new Wonders. 

614
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,040
OK. 
Yeah. 

615
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,440
What's your question? 
And he just like appointed 

616
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,160
himself like he was the deciding
factor just cuz just cuz he. 

617
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
He was the one. 
He just was like, we're gonna 

618
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,480
make a new list. 
Yeah, Make a new yeah. 

619
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Where's the I mean the audacity 
you're. 

620
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,880
Kind of getting ahead too cuz 
there's some controversy here, 

621
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,400
okay? 
But I'll stop. 

622
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280
No, it's fine. 
You're thinking ahead and I 

623
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,520
enjoy it. 
I think that originally it was 

624
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800
just kind of like, oh, like 
let's just do this fun thing. 

625
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,680
And he also, I think felt 
passionate about the like 

626
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,880
heritage of these sites and like
and conservation of these sites.

627
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,840
You know what I mean? 
So like, the attention was good.

628
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,400
Yeah, I just, I don't think they
had any idea that it would 

629
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:25,520
become as well known into the 
world as it ended up being, you 

630
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,120
know what I mean? 
Okay, wait, you said it was what

631
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,480
year that they became officially
announced as the new I'm 

632
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,560
getting? 
To that I haven't said that yet.

633
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,040
In 2000 he started this project.
He started this foundation 

634
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,960
called New 7 Wonders. 
And basically a lot of this, I'm

635
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,760
getting off of a letter that he 
personally wrote on the New 7 

636
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,639
Wonders website. 
And so this kind of goes with 

637
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,480
what you were just said, like, 
like he just decided he was the 

638
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,320
the guy to do this. 
And he said that they were 

639
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,520
official because we wanted to 
recognize the ultimate authority

640
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640
and legitimacy of democratic 
will. 

641
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,840
So I think he just really liked 
this idea of the people making 

642
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480
the list, you know what I mean? 
Like everybody having a say, 

643
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,520
which I do like. 
The creation wonders, yeah. 

644
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,200
Yeah, I do like that as well. 
But ultimately, was he like the 

645
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,200
final decision maker? 
So I'll kind of get to that, I 

646
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,680
guess. 
Well, yeah, so, so originally he

647
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,320
received consultation from the 
UNESCO World Heritage Center in 

648
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,720
Paris and they basically helped 
him pick the first participating

649
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:36,400
77 locations like on his first 
website. 

650
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,680
OK, OK. 
Eventually UNESCO was unable to 

651
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,080
continue like helping him 
because of limitations in their 

652
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,120
statutes. 
That's what he says on his 

653
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,760
website. 
Again, this is kind of 

654
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,720
foreshadowing. 
UNESCO basically just tries to 

655
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,920
separate themselves with this 
list as much as possible later. 

656
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,800
OK. 
So they wanted nothing to do 

657
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560
with this after a little bit, 
but he says that they helped him

658
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,720
pick the 1st 77 locations. 
And basically this grew from 

659
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,960
this grassroots idea that he had
to having millions of voters. 

660
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,720
The public voting from the year 
2000 to 2005 whittled down those

661
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:20,640
77 to 21 finalists. 
And then in 2006 and 2007, the 

662
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,880
new 7 Wonders tour happened. 
And so Bernard and his team went

663
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,400
to all 21 of those places which 
like, let's make a list too. 

664
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,440
So I'll. 
Make. 

665
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960
I'll make one up. 
Let's go. 

666
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,400
We got to go visit those places.
It's really important. 

667
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,160
Here, Alaska is one of them. 
Yeah, let's see. 

668
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,680
So this tour really like led to 
an increased amount of voting 

669
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,160
and participation. 
And the final voting went from 

670
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,760
January 2006 and was announced 
on the 7th day of the 7th month 

671
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,360
of 2007. 
Whoa. 

672
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,560
Get it 777. 
Yep, 7 Wonders of the World 

673
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,200
07777. 
Yep, OK, I get it. 

674
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:07,920
I. 
Get it now. 

675
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,280
I was like lucky, I think 7 is 
the most magical number, is what

676
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
they say in Harry Potter. 
So that's when I go, my brain 

677
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,480
went. 
It ended with more than 100 

678
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,240
million votes. 
And yeah, basically Bernard was 

679
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,480
committed to documenting and 
conserving heritage. 

680
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,280
After this list was announced, 
there was a creation of high 

681
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,920
definition 3D models of all of 
the wonders. 

682
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,120
So, like, now we got those. 
Yeah. 

683
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,760
If if anything happens to you 
know one of these wonders now 

684
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,360
there is that virtual form of 
them still. 

685
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,200
I was going to say, was is it 
virtual? 

686
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,640
OK, Yeah. 
Yep. 

687
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,920
So here's where we get to kind 
of the controversy. 

688
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,200
So the website says that they 
are funded entirely by licensing

689
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,520
and commercial partnerships with
companies, TV rights holders, 

690
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,080
event organizers and through 
interactive revenue shares. 

691
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:04,080
It says they do not draw any 
funds from the public, 

692
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,120
government or taxpayer 
subsidies. 

693
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,560
So I guess that's not really a 
controversy, but I did want to 

694
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,120
put that in there just so that 
we kind of know what their 

695
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,880
foundation says is happening 
versus some of the controversy 

696
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,920
that's going on. 
OK. 

697
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,840
OK, Yep. 
OK, so one thing is that Machu 

698
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,600
Picchu apparently is at risk of 
losing its title. 

699
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,160
I saw there was an article about
this very recently in September 

700
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,080
of this year. 
So the reason why is due to like

701
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680
over tourism, limited 
conservation policies and social

702
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,440
conflicts. 
And the new 7 Wonders officially

703
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,200
said. 
It's too soon to discuss what 

704
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,160
the process would be, how it 
would work, or if it would 

705
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,600
happen. 
What's the social conflict about

706
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,560
it? 
There's some protests that were 

707
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,920
blocking the train tracks to the
site and residents protesting 

708
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,480
Peruvian government's decision, 
like regarding online sale of 

709
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,840
tickets. 
I think there's just so many 

710
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,720
visitors now. 
I think it's just kind of gotten

711
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:11,200
a little bit problematic. 
And this year they're expected 

712
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,040
to exceed 1.5 million visitors, 
which would break the record for

713
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,080
their highest number of visitors
in a year. 

714
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,200
The previous record was 2019. 
I was planning on going in 2020,

715
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,120
the director of New 7 Wonders, 
Jean Paul de la Fuente, said 

716
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,840
about possibly removing Machu 
Picchu from the list. 

717
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,720
He said this is premature, 
especially as we believe all 

718
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:37,760
stakeholders can and should 
consider this as a wake up call 

719
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,840
to get the House of Machu Picchu
in order. 

720
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,880
We already have an official 
representative advisor in Peru 

721
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,800
itself who is ready to support 
the process toward both short 

722
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,880
term and more importantly long 
term solutions. 

723
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,200
So they're not really like 
pulling the rug out from Machu 

724
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Picchu yet. 
It's kind of more of just like 

725
00:39:55,120 --> 00:40:00,160
a, hey you guys, you need to 
start working on conservation a 

726
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,120
little bit more. 
Yeah, like we recognize it's a 

727
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,720
problem and we are brainstorming
or trying to figure this out to 

728
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,800
preserve it still. 
My issue with them even saying 

729
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,320
that they could possibly take 
Machu Picchu off the list is I 

730
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,720
feel like you made this list, 
you announced it, that's it. 

731
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Those are the final results and 
you can't go back and change it 

732
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,160
because this ancient list that 
you took inspiration from, they 

733
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,880
didn't go back and change it 
when any of their sites were 

734
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,280
destroyed. 
You know what I mean? 

735
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,720
Yeah, yeah, true. 
I understand that for sure too. 

736
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,560
And also, do you think that 
removing it from the list would 

737
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:40,760
almost make it just as popular, 
if not maybe more like a like a 

738
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,240
controversy of, of being like 
Machu Picchu is no longer on 

739
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:48,320
this list? 
Like we need to go there because

740
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,600
we need to give the money as 
tourists and all that. 

741
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Like, you know what I mean? 
Like it's like, it's like when 

742
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Pluto, well, this is not a good 
comparison, but when Pluto 

743
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,320
stopped being a planet, I felt 
the most like. 

744
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160
Yeah, everyone like they Pluto's
still a planet for me. 

745
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,680
Yeah, it's my planet, but like, 
I feel like it's a. 

746
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,880
It's still a wonder for me. 
Yeah, exactly. 

747
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,360
Yeah, Yep. 
That's true. 

748
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Just that could happen. 
OK, So that's Machu Picchu. 

749
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,200
OK. 
And then like I mentioned, the 

750
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,040
UNESCO World Heritage Center, 
basically they backed off from 

751
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,520
this project. 
They said they have no 

752
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,520
affiliation with this project 
whatsoever. 

753
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,720
They said scientific criteria 
must be defined, quality of 

754
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,360
candidates evaluated, and 
legislative and management 

755
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,200
frameworks set up. 
The UNESCO World Heritage, 

756
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:42,200
what's really important to them 
is the idea of conservation and 

757
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,960
just like holding on to the 
history and like preserving 

758
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,280
these sites, OK. 
And they feel that like the 

759
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Seven Wonders List is just not 
doing enough for that. 

760
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,280
And they don't want anything to 
do with that. 

761
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,760
And they said that the Seven 
Wonders List is just the result 

762
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600
of a private undertaking 
reflecting only the opinions of 

763
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,800
those with access to the 
Internet and not the entire 

764
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,400
world. 
Yeah, yeah. 

765
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Whereas like UNESCO on their 
website, they have locations 

766
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,400
from all over the world. 
I see. 

767
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,120
And these are obviously all over
the world too, but like there's 

768
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,920
certain spots that are missing. 
Yeah, for sure. 

769
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,000
OK. 
I think I understand what you're

770
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,680
saying. 
Like their mission kind of 

771
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,120
changed a little bit. 
Or not the new 7 wonders. 

772
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,840
Yeah, the new one. 
Yeah, you or like UNESCO, I 

773
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,960
don't think. 
No, UNESCO's didn't change. 

774
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,040
That's what they feel, that's 
what they want to do. 

775
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,160
They want to conserve, they want
to preserve. 

776
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,560
They're saying the new 7 wonders
didn't do that enough, so 

777
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,960
they're trying to back off from 
them. 

778
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,320
Their. 
Foundation. 

779
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,240
OK, I see. 
OK. 

780
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,360
They believe that this is only 
the opinions of those with 

781
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,800
access to the Internet and not 
the entire world. 

782
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,720
And I think that that is like a 
really important point with this

783
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,280
list that I agree with their 
criticism of. 

784
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,520
And there is a Cambodian Blogger
named Morin Vutha who was 

785
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,680
talking about the fact that 
Anker Watt didn't win one of the

786
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,600
spots. 
And they said, I thought that 

787
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,040
the voting through Internet and 
telephone is not fair and just 

788
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,200
for least developed countries 
like Cambodia. 

789
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600
Most of our Cambodian people 
have limit to access Internet. 

790
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,400
Internet nationwide like 
developing and developed 

791
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,920
countries. 
Anker Watt is one of the world's

792
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,920
largest religious structures and
was one of the 21 finalists. 

793
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Finalists. 
Oh OK, I've just pulled it up I 

794
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,400
think. 
Oh, I did not spell it right 

795
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,680
though. 
A lot of people also were 

796
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,760
criticizing the list for not 
having any wonders in Africa. 

797
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,760
Oh. 
And Egypt was one of like the 

798
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,840
finalists, while the pyramids 
was one of the finalists. 

799
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,280
But Egypt declined because like,
they're like, we're already, 

800
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,360
we're already a wonder. 
Like we're already one of the 

801
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,360
seven original wonders, you 
know? 

802
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,240
Yeah, OK. 
Like what are you even talking 

803
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,160
about? 
Essentially it's. 

804
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,760
Like, there's no debate here. 
We already know, yeah. 

805
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,240
And then organizers, this is a 
big part. 

806
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,680
Organizers admitted that they 
had no control over the number 

807
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,640
of votes per person because if 
you went on their website and 

808
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,200
you entered your e-mail to vote,
OK, that's only one vote. 

809
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:29,280
But you could also vote by call.
You could just call as many 

810
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,840
times as you wanted. 
You could make more emails. 

811
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,440
Yeah. 
And vote more. 

812
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,640
There's a lot of it. 
Was problematic. 

813
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,720
Yes, thank you it. 
Was problematic in general, like

814
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,920
the method that they used to go 
about this OK methods. 

815
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,720
Yeah, and so then you know how I
mentioned when we was going 

816
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,160
through the list of the wonders,
how the Christ the Redeemer 

817
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,320
statue just to me didn't feel as
awe inspiring, especially after 

818
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,360
hearing the Great Wall of China?
Yeah. 

819
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000
I am not the only person to have
that thought. 

820
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,800
OK, Yeah. 
Of course it's amazing. 

821
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,400
It's beautiful. 
It would be really cool to see 

822
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,880
in person. 
I would love to go see it, even 

823
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,760
though I find it kind of creepy.
But to me, I was kind of also 

824
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,480
like, it's kind of weird that 
it's on this list because it was

825
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,640
built in like the 1900s. 
Like all these other ones were 

826
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,760
built so much longer ago, took 
so much longer to build. 

827
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,760
Like it's more recent versus 
like historical and has this 

828
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,960
crazy legacy of a long time ago,
OK. 

829
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,840
And then even just like if you 
go online, you'll see people 

830
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,960
that did go to all the seven 
wonders will usually say this 

831
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,600
was their least favorite or just
like the least awe inspiring of 

832
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,400
the seven. 
And this is kind of spoiling, 

833
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,440
but not really. 
But when I get to the natural 

834
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,000
wonders of the world, there is 
actually another wonder that's 

835
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,480
located in Rio. 
So the harbour at Rio de Janeiro

836
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,640
is one of the seven Natural 
wonders of the world. 

837
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,280
And the Seven Natural Wonders 
list was also made by the same 

838
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,320
foundation a few years after 
this one came out. 

839
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,880
So why? 
How did they get to Wonders of 

840
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,680
the world? 
Well, basically Brazil held a 

841
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,440
national voting campaign when 
this list was coming out and 

842
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,840
they even went as far as to text
all the residents in Brazil. 

843
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,920
They texted them saying press 
4916 and vote for Christ. 

844
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,960
It's free so. 
OK. 

845
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,760
Good marketing or just good like
distribution, I guess to the 

846
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,800
people? 
So 10 million Brazilians ended 

847
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,600
up voting, which is 10% of all 
the votes. 

848
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Oh my God. 
So like. 

849
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Yeah, of course. 
You know they got a spot. 

850
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,880
It's. 
Skewed. 

851
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,720
It's skewed, yeah, potentially. 
Yeah, They were not the only 

852
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:57,120
country to kind of put campaigns
around this, but they were just,

853
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,280
you know, the most successful. 
And it makes sense like that 

854
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,160
they would want to be on this 
list because it obviously 

855
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520
increases tourism. 
I was trying to, like, get some 

856
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,880
numbers on how much it increased
tourism to these places. 

857
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,880
After the list came out, I saw 
like basically, you know, some 

858
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,360
different numbers for different 
places, but for Machu Picchu, 

859
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,440
for example, it increased 
tourism by over 70% between 2007

860
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,520
to 2008. 
Oh my gosh, yeah. 

861
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,920
Just in that time. 
Wow. 

862
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,160
So like, it makes sense, like 
Brazil, basically, they just 

863
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,440
invested into their own future, 
you know? 

864
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,360
Yeah, exactly. 
That's pretty much all the 

865
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,320
controversy. 
Final thoughts on the 

866
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,520
controversy is, I mean, I feel 
like as far as controversy goes,

867
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,520
it's somewhat innocent. 
It's it's just like, like I 

868
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,640
said, I think he had good 
intentions this Bernard and 

869
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,120
still probably believes in those
intentions fully. 

870
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,520
They have raised a lot of money 
for these sites and everything. 

871
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,920
And I just think he truly had no
idea how big this list would end

872
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,200
up being. 
Like, everybody kind of has some

873
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,080
idea of, like, what the wonders 
of the world are, you know what 

874
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,880
I mean? 
Or has heard that term, you 

875
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,520
know. 
Yeah, yeah. 

876
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,560
He didn't realize the impact of 
this new wonders that the world 

877
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,920
would be. 
Yeah, the intention. 

878
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
I completely agree with like 
some of the criticism of like 

879
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,680
which sites ended up winning 
versus which ones lost. 

880
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Like one of the ones I've seen 
is like the Acropolis, right? 

881
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,480
That one didn't win. 
Like that's, I feel like a lot 

882
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,440
of times people think that's a 
world wonder, but it's not, you 

883
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,440
know? 
So like what? 

884
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,080
What do you think would be a 
good way to vote for something 

885
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,240
like that? 
Or is there a good way? 

886
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,760
Maybe I think like UNESCO 
basically just decided like 

887
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,120
maybe I'm wrong on this, I don't
know. 

888
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,160
But I feel like basically their 
idea was like, you can't just 

889
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,160
leave it up to yeah, the public 
because not everybody even has 

890
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,360
access to vote. 
So like we, we've done the 

891
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,600
studying, we've done the science
on what makes the site awesome 

892
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,320
and wonderful, you know what I 
mean? 

893
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,200
And we're going to tell you what
those things are. 

894
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,640
So I wanted to end it by asking 
you, almost end it by asking you

895
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,320
if you had to go to one of these
wonders tomorrow, which one 

896
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,680
would you go to? 
Money and anything is not a 

897
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,680
problem in this fake scenario. 
OK. 

898
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,760
You get to teleport there. 
You just you're there that. 

899
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,840
'D be so great. 
That's always my superpower if 

900
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,400
you ask that question like what 
would? 

901
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,840
You that's a good power be, 
yeah. 

902
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,880
Teleportation for sure. 
This is hard, I know. 

903
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,320
I want to go to them all. 
I also want. 

904
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,320
To go to them all, I think Machu
Picchu. 

905
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,320
Yeah, I think Machu Picchu I the
I think 2nd place for me would 

906
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,360
almost be Taj Mahal. 
Yep, Yep, Yep. 

907
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,400
OK. 
But I think Machu Picchu, I 

908
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,520
think that's my winner. 
Yeah, I think, I think I really 

909
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,520
like. 
I think I really like that. 

910
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,120
Because it kind of also has a 
mix of like it being a man made 

911
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,200
wonder and it's just gorgeous 
like naturally too, because it's

912
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,640
in the mountains, you know? 
True, true. 

913
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,160
I feel like just because of my 
connection to the road to El 

914
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,920
Dorado, Chichen Itza would be. 
Up there, it's a good choice. 

915
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,320
Yeah. 
That one would be not hard for 

916
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,920
us to get to. 
Yeah, true. 

917
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,080
So yeah, because it's like you 
can do like day trips from 

918
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,960
Cancun. 
Oh really? 

919
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,840
So they're OK? 
That'd be nice. 

920
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,040
But yeah, I mean, there isn't 
really one that I'm like, 

921
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,600
absolutely not like I have no 
interest in seeing them. 

922
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,640
The Great Wall would be insane. 
I can't even fathom that as 

923
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,760
well. 
It all is just like mind blowing

924
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,920
in general. 
But for some reason that one 

925
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,400
with how long it is. 
Yeah, you can see it from the 

926
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,960
moon. 
Yeah, I can see it from the 

927
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,800
moon, the. 
Last thing that I even just 

928
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,040
wanted to bring up was have you 
ever played this game called 

929
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,360
Geoguesser? 
Is it where you go on Google 

930
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,520
Maps and you have to guess 
where? 

931
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,840
Like it'll place you in on a 
street in a random country? 

932
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,240
Is that what it is? 
And then you have to guess. 

933
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,280
Yeah, it literally just like the
basic original version is it'll 

934
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,080
plop you literally anywhere in 
the world that has Google Maps. 

935
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,960
Like, what do you call that when
you're like the Street View? 

936
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,240
Yeah, Street View. 
So you can move around and then 

937
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,800
you just have to guess where it 
plopped you and. 

938
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,160
Get like context clues based off
street signs or buildings. 

939
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,320
Or the trees or you know, 
anything, anything that might 

940
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,600
give you a clue. 
I love that game so much and 

941
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,680
there's different versions of it
where like you can choose like a

942
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,120
specific map, so you can choose 
one like based on the country so

943
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,480
that it's like a little bit 
more, you know, specific. 

944
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,800
You can also choose there's one 
that's like just famous places. 

945
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,160
And so I don't know, I just kind
of was thinking about it when I 

946
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,920
was doing this episode because I
really like playing that 

947
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,080
version. 
It's fun to me because even 

948
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,080
though they're a famous place, a
lot of times where it puts you 

949
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,480
is like a place I've never even 
seen or heard of before, you 

950
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,200
know? 
Yeah. 

951
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,600
And then when I play it, I will 
just act like a detective and 

952
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,000
roam around the area, look at 
any little sign that I can and 

953
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,680
start like Googling stuff to try
to figure out where I am. 

954
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,520
If it's like some place that I'm
like, where the hell am I? 

955
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,000
I feel like I'm in the middle of
the desert in whatever country. 

956
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,920
I don't know what this is, you 
know what I mean? 

957
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,520
And it's just so fun. 
And so I don't know, it just 

958
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,560
reminded me of this. 
And if you are interested in 

959
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,200
that, definitely go look it up, 
Sir. 

960
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,080
That's really cool. 
It's also just insane to me that

961
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,920
Google Maps has all these 
places. 

962
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Can you imagine that? 
Even like in 20 years ago? 

963
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,120
Maybe not 20 years ago, but 
well. 

964
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,840
Yeah, even 20 years ago, I think
that would have been 2005. 

965
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,080
That's before this list came 
out. 

966
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,240
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, you're right. 

967
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,160
But I just like, I don't know, 
sometimes it just like blows my 

968
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,680
mind how far we've come in a 
short amount of time, but also 

969
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,760
how far we have to go at the 
same. 

970
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,360
Yeah, definitely. 
It's crazy. 

971
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040
It's pretty amazing. 
And definitely with all of 

972
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,400
these, you can look them up on 
there and I think they have even

973
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,360
more of detailed maps for a lot 
of these wonders, you know what 

974
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,800
I mean? 
Then some other places are just 

975
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,120
like, you know, really famous 
places. 

976
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,760
So it's cool we live in a time 
where even though you might not 

977
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,600
be able to travel to these 
places for whatever reason, you 

978
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,480
still kind of can. 
You still have access to like be

979
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,600
able to not be there, but also 
kind of be there. 

980
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,360
Like I said, I feel like I've 
kind of gone to Machu Picchu 

981
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,640
already because I did so much 
research before, but. 

982
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Yeah. 
So you're gonna be a tour guide 

983
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,600
when we go? 
Yeah, that'd. 

984
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Be so annoying I. 
Know that does look really cool 

985
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,280
though. 
I'd love to do Machu Picchu. 

986
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,360
Gosh, yeah. 
So you have only seen not only, 

987
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,760
but you've seen the Colosseum, 
That's the one that you've seen 

988
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,120
out of all of them, right? 
Yeah, OK. 

989
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,120
Yeah. 
I was like 13 years old, and 

990
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,240
unfortunately it was like 108° 
outside that day. 

991
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,120
So my memory is mostly me being 
like, I'm so fucking hot right 

992
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,720
now. 
You know, it's like when you're 

993
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:34,480
13, you're so annoying. 
I should have just been like, 

994
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,600
wow, I can't believe that I'm 
here right now. 

995
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,960
I think about all his history, 
but I was like, I'm so hot. 

996
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,720
Like I did on one hand, think 
like, wow, this is really cool. 

997
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:44,400
But on the other hand, yeah, 
that was. 

998
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,720
Well, yeah, you don't appreciate
it as much probably. 

999
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,840
Maybe. 
I would definitely appreciate it

1000
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,440
more now. 
Even if it was 108°, I would be 

1001
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,360
like, wow, look at this. 
Yeah, I'm gonna bring exactly my

1002
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,400
fan with me. 
Or. 

1003
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,720
Fan and spray bottle a Mr. I 
hate being hot, so I'd probably 

1004
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,200
have the same memory of it if I 
were there with you. 

1005
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,440
It's just so fucking hot. 
I love it though. 

1006
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,320
I didn't know a lot of, I mean 
any of that really. 

1007
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,360
To be honest. 
I didn't even know there were 

1008
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,680
new ones actually. 
And now you got some stuff to 

1009
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,320
look forward to. 
Yeah, travel plans. 

1010
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,640
No, I. 
I didn't mean with my episodes. 

1011
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,360
Yeah, yes, that's true too. 
Yeah, to learn more about the 

1012
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,520
others, the natural ones, would 
be really interesting. 

1013
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,960
I'm curious about those. 
I mean, they all will, but yeah,

1014
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,120
okay. 
That's my episode, we made it 

1015
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,360
through. 
Well that was fun. 

1016
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,600
It really was though. 
I really, really liked that 

1017
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,320
episode. 
I did not think it would be like

1018
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,240
did not have any clue that it 
would be something like this. 

1019
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:51,440
I thought you were going to 
focus on like 1 area until he 

1020
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,040
said around the world. 
And I was like well that could 

1021
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,240
be so many things and yeah, no 
clue. 

1022
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,120
Learned a lot. 
So I really, really liked it. 

1023
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,960
It was a really good one. 
Good. 

1024
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:07,200
Well that was fun. 
Thanks for coming along on that 

1025
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,000
deep dive. 
I hope you learned something and

1026
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:16,360
subscribe please. 
We still have the goal of having

1027
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,080
500 followers on some platform. 
No, we don't care which one, 

1028
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,520
just one of them. 
And then we will release a 

1029
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,520
cringe video of us from our 
childhood that we made because 

1030
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,200
we like to make videos. 
And we can be found on 

1031
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:38,200
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1032
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,360
Oh, YouTube, YouTube as well. 
Check us out there if you want 

1033
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,560
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1034
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,480
subscribe if you can, please. 
And we've been seeing all your 

1035
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,760
comments and we love them and 
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1036
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,880
Leave us a review and give us a 
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1037
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,960
Yeah, we'd appreciate it. 
We appreciate you listening in 

1038
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,320
general though. 
So thank you this. 

1039
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Has been a tough episode to 
catch. 

1040
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,240
I know what we're done. 
It's 9:17 PM. 

1041
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:09,040
We're ready for bed. 
Yes. 

1042
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,240
Until then, embrace the spiral, 
stay curious, and we'll see you 

1043
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,040
next time. 
Bye. 

1044
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:21,280
Bye Aaron and Danny to lifelong 
best friends take turns picking 

1045
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,280
topics. 
Then they see where it ends.

