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Aaron and Danny to life. 
Want best friends? 

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Take turns, pick in topics, then
they see where it ends. 

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So wild. 
It's weird and sometimes 

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specific. 
Whatever it is, you know it will

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be terrific. 
It's hyperfixation time. 

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Hi everyone, welcome to 
hyperfixation time. 

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I'm Danny. 
And I'm Aaron. 

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And we've been best friends 
since the second day of 

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kindergarten. 
Quick note. 

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So we became friends when I 
turned 5, it was my 5th birthday

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and my little baby turns 5 
tomorrow. 

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Can you believe it? 
Isn't that crazy? 

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Full circle, but also like 
crazy. 

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I, like, literally had no plans 
to say that, but as I was 

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reading our intro, I was just 
like, Oh my gosh, wait, that's 

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so crazy. 
Yeah. 

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Can you imagine if he's like, 
still friends with one of his 

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little buds right now? 
I don't know. 

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That's crazy. 
How lucky are we? 

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I know, very blessed. 
It's very rare. 

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Very. 
Rare, yeah. 

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Anyways, on our podcast, every 
week we go over a different 

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topic and it's a surprise to the
other person. 

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So it was Aaron's turn to choose
today and I have no idea what 

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it's going to be. 
So it's going to be a surprise 

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for me and I can't wait to hear 
what it is. 

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But before we get into that, we 
just chat a little bit and we'll

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go over a little microfixation. 
So just something that we're 

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interested in this particular 
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And that's the show. 
Yeah, ready to get into? 

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It Yeah, I'm ready. 
I'm ready. 

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If you are, do. 
You have anything you wanted to 

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say today? 
Yeah, we got together with like 

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a bunch of our girlfriends. 
Shout out girlies. 

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Hopefully you can see my 
hedgehog. 

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What about you? 
I mean, no news really just it's

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birthday Eve tonight and was 
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making his cake and Leon 
decorated it with me for the 

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first time. 
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And then we also, so it was like
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planning on making Valentine's 
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kind of cookies, you know, like 
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And I like hyped Leon up for 
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And then just Valentine's Day 
came and went and there's like a

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lot of stuff going on and we 
didn't get to it. 

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And he was like very adamant 
that we do that still. 

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So I'm sure cake. 
We also now have a lot of 

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Valentine's Day cookies. 
What kind of like cutouts do you

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do for that I guess? 
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a heart cuz like sure. 
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cutters for his play DoH toys. 
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And I know there he has a heart,
but I couldn't find it anywhere.

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So we used a circle and a 
snowflake and I made like hearts

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on the circles and stuff. 
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There you go. 
They still look cute. 

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Exactly. 
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Like you made it work. 
It's all good. 

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I love that. 
I know. 

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I can't believe he's gonna be 5.
I know that's. 

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Crazy. 
This time five years ago, I was 

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in the hospital. 
IE. 

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IE. 
IE that's a lot. 

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Do you have one for this week 
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I just got actually a customized
paint by Number of Boris. 

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Oh, that's such a good idea. 
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number in general. 
And so I submitted like a photo 

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and they were able to make it 
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You know, it's so cool. 
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emotional to even just freaking 
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Yeah, I bet, but I hope it's 
like therapeutic for you. 

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planning to like, you know, 
frame it and put it somewhere 

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once I get to that point. 
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didn't have to work and I could 
just like, just do that right 

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now. 
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beautiful, definitely. 
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want to see it. 
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I will. 
So what is your hyperfixation of

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the week? 
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obviously my main topic was AJR 
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I just feel like it was like bam
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happened to the point that I 
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OK. 
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OK. 
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about how Adam met one of the 
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podcast, listened to the 
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It was amazing and great. 
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book that he wrote called 
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basically just like his work as 
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climate activism, just any type 
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interested in that or you're 
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worth the listen for sure. 
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could go on and on, but I won't.
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happened was on our Instagram 
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commented and I think her page 
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page. 
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Yeah, and so her account was 
Jackie Long Nose shout out. 

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She let me know that AJR is 
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I don't know if they're doing 
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music, but it's for a Broadway 
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Purple Crayon, which I guess is 
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Super excited for that. 
I don't feel like their music 

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writing is so perfect for 
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Excited for that. 
I have so many thoughts because 

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it relates to today's topic. 
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Cool. 
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Before we get to that, then let 
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released a new song. 
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Because I'd listen to it. 
So the song title is called a 

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bunch of songs We haven't played
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It's like a mash up of like a 
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and then it's the single that's 
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releasing a whole live album 
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How do you feel about live 
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I was just curious. 
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that they had just released 
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before this. 
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And then I was like, wait, is it
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like a new album or like, just 
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of their songs. 
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It OK, yeah, but it sounded 
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But it's not my favorite I 
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Yeah, I'm not. 
I don't know. 

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I just usually like to listen to
the original version. 

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Remix or cover but. 
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But if you were there in person,
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to be honest, you know? 
I was just curious how you feel 

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because I've definitely heard of
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like listening to live 
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But yeah, it's just not really 
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Unless you're there for me. 

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Like unless I'm that. 
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And then it's like, you can 
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how often are you actually there
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Then lastly is that they're 
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Wisconsin State Fair in August 
and I'm super hyped and tickets 

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go on sale on Friday the 20th 
February 20th, so. 

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OK, Yeah. 
So we're going. 

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You're set. 
You want to come with. 

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It OK, OK. 
Does. 

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I just I just have to I'm going 

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to listen to more of their 
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OK for then, but I think Pija 
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OK, bet you said. 
Wait, where is it? 

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It's in Milwaukee at the 
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so and then tickets go on sale 
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Thank you Travis for letting me 
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it. 
That's my friend. 

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Nice. 
Yeah. 

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Travis has your back. 
I love it. 

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Let me know cuz Pete and I love 

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going to concerts and whatnot 
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listening more than I have 
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it up basically. 
Cool. 

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I'm excited. 
Is it main topic time? 

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I think it might be main topic 
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So, so funny that you brought up
Broadway and that they're making

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a Broadway show. 
It was the purple crayon, 

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Harold. 
And the purple crayon. 

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It sounds familiar, but I don't 
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I'm gonna look it up. 
Oh, oh, Zooey Deschanel's in it.

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In the play. 
There was a movie. 

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Oh, OK. 
In 2024. 

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So anyway, Broadway, it's a huge
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like like physically being in 
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seeing plays or musicals or 
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I guess the best way I can 
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definitely had a time of like 
hyper fixating on Broadway 

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musicals at the time. 
It's like 2017 ish. 

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You know, it was like Hamilton. 
Later on it was Hades Town is a 

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big one that I really love. 
Book of Mormon is interesting, 

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but there's one particular 
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wanted to sort of look into. 
And I also am like trying to go 

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as much off script as I can 
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Like you just knew so much about
this person that like, you can 

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just tell me. 
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to look up like the, you know, 
like early stuff and whatever, 

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It's good to have like kind of 

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notes to just follow through, 
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Yeah, so have you ever heard of 
the musician artist, actor Ben 

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Platt? 
Oh, it sounds very familiar. 

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Yeah, like you can't see it. 
Very well popping up her shirt 

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and like, I do not know what I'm
looking at because I was trying 

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to guess. 
Oh, I can see it. 

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It's weird because, like, it 
looks like a glitch on the 

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webcam, The words on Eric's 
shirt. 

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Yeah. 
And then all of a sudden, you 

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were just, like, holding it 
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It felt like one of those books 
where you're, like, waiting for 

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the image to show up. 
Oh, does that make sense what 

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I'm saying? 
Yeah, I know what you mean. 

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'Cause like all of a sudden I 

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can see the name. 
But it's very like, blurry, 

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yeah. 
Anyway, check it out on YouTube.

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Plat. 
I'm like so tempted to just 

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Google this really quick because
I wanna know but I will. 

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I'm gonna wait. 
Well, look up just to see what 

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he looks like at least. 
I mean, I'll tell you obviously 

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about him, but like, once you 
see him, I think that you'll be 

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like, oh, him. 
Maybe. 

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Maybe. 
Oh, from Pitch Perfect. 

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Yes. 
That's where I immediately 

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recognize him from. 
Yep, Yep. 

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He was like the. 
The roommate the. 

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Roommate. 
Yeah, I wanted to say like 

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weird, but he was just. 
Yeah, he was. 

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He was weird. 
Yeah, but he. 

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Was then you like? 
He wasn't like weird in like a 

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bad way, you know? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And they were roommates. 
Sorry. 

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That that's for Brynn. 
That's like a Vine. 

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Do you remember Vine? 
Yeah, of course. 

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There was like a whole thing 
about like and they and they 

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were roommates. 
So anyway, sorry, that's just 

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what it made me think of. 
But yes, most people recognize 

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Ben from Pitch Perfect, the 
roommate of the main character 

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who was played by Skyler. 
Aston is his name. 

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I can't remember what his name 
was actually in the movie 

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though. 
Me either. 

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Yeah, Either way, you might 
picture him there. 

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He was like the. 
Yeah, like the weird one that 

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was like playing him or like he 
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like a magician. 
And so you felt like very, like,

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what's it like, where like, how 
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And then like towards the end, 
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with his singing. 
I think it's what, What's the 

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song? 
I've got the magic. 

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Kill me. 
And he likes things kind of 

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slower. 
Yes, I'm gonna. 

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Have to go watch that movie now.
OK, so that was my first 

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introduction to him as well, but
he has a very extensive history 

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to be honest, so. 
Interesting. 

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And I will get into why I'm 
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start at the beginning. 
So he was born in LA, so Los 

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Angeles, CA in September of 
1993. 

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So you're just barely older than
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Anyway, 1993. 

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So he's he's like around our age
and yeah, LA and he is the son 

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of Mark Platt. 
Have you ever heard of Mark 

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Platt? 
Before. 

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No, ma'am. 
OK, so he's a huge Hollywood 

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producer. 
He's done like. 

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Eppo Baby. 
That's the whole thing about 

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this. 
That's the. 

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Whole thing into Ben Platt's 
history, we'll talk about that 

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but he so Mark Platt has 
produced films like A La Land, 

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Legally Blonde, I. 
Love. 

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I love both of those. 
OK. 

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And then the film adaptation of 
Wicked. 

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Actually it is like he also did 
Snow White. 

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I don't know if you ever saw. 
Is that the one? 

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The live action of Snow White. 
Yeah, the one with that girl 

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that everyone was mad about. 
Rachel. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Rachel Ziegler. 

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Yep, Yep. 
There you go. 

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So he grew up around, you know, 
this industry and there's a 

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nepotism about it that people 
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general with Ben Platt. 
But it's not like he can decide 

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where he was born. 
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So he's one of five, five kids. 
His mom is Julie. 

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She's a philanthropist. 
And then is he one of five, 

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Yeah, fourth of five children, 
OK, of Julie and Mark. 

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Oh, he did Into the woods as 
well. 

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His dad did as well. 
Mary Poppins Returns. 

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Yeah, there's a lot. 
They're also Jewish, so that's a

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big part of, like, their family 
life. 

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And so I found him. 
I knew like I knew of him from 

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Pitch Perfect, like kind of 
recognized, but he was in the 

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musical Dear Evan Hansen. 
Have you ever heard of that Dear

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Evan Hansen? 
I don't think so. 

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I mean, I think I might have 
heard of it, but I haven't seen 

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it. 
I'm not very familiar with it at

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all. 
Sure, that's okay, they made a 

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movie about it, but he starred 
in as the main character of this

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musical on Broadway. 
I mean, before this he obviously

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did some studying and all of 
that in musical theater, but the

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big thing like his breakthrough 
moment was Dear Evan Hansen. 

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So this. 
Was pre pitch perfect? 

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This was. 
After. 

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After. 
OK. 

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Yeah, Yep. 
I'm trying to think. 

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Yeah, He had like a minor role 
that was like a little bit of a 

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spark. 
And then now and then he became 

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this main character in this huge
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This is like a big deal. 
But his dad also, I think, 

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produced it or directed or, you 
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you know, controversy there. 
But it premiered on Broadway in 

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2016. 
He originated the role of Evan 

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Hansen. 
So the story is that he is a 

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socially, socially anxious high 
school student and without him 

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necessarily like purposely doing
this, he ends up being entangled

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in a lie that spirals out of 
control after one of his 

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classmates dies. 
Trigger warning suicide. 

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Yeah, there's a, there's a movie
now you can watch it and 

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whatever to see the whole thing.
But it's a very interesting 

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story, a very important story as
well of intention versus then 

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being so anxious to like, you 
have to like keep up with the 

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lie kind of thing. 
So it's like you feel bad for 

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him, but also it's like, well, 
you did this to yourself and you

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just go back and forth in that 
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basically he like ties himself 
to the to one of the classmates 

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that ends up committing suicide.
But he never was that close to 

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Gotcha. 
Yeah. 

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And then he gets close to his 
sister. 

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Yeah. 
It sounds really interesting and

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like I enjoy, you know, anything
that is like a good human study.

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I would say fair. 
And I feel like that gives off 

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that vibe for sure. 
Yes. 

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Is the movie a musical version 
or did they cut that out? 

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OK, so it's. 
Musical as well. 

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Yep, Yep, I definitely. 
Want to watch that? 

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Yeah, you should. 
That's also part of the 

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controversy, though, is because 
Ben ends up playing Evan Hansen 

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again in. 
Oh, he's in the movie, OK. 

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In the movie and he's like 30 
and people are like, he's too 

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old to be a high school student 
or whatever. 

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But at the same time, like, how 
old were the people in Greece? 

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Oh my. 
God, yeah, no, like, literally, 

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that's been a thing that's been 
going on forever, is that 30 

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year olds play high schoolers. 
Like, think about Glee as well. 

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They were. 
All so old. 

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Yeah. 
That's a good one too. 

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Like, yeah. 
That's pretty he. 

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Got a lot of Flack for that. 
He got a lot of. 

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People be mad all the time. 
Mad, I know, can't please 

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everyone, but anyway, That 
musical premiered on Broadway in

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2016. 
He is the main character. 

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His performance was widely sort 
of recognized for his emotional 

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intensity, which you have to 
have in this like storyline. 

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You'll like I said, you'll 
you'll see when you when you if 

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you do watch it. 
But he also just has, like, such

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a good voice, his voice, like 
him and Cynthia Revo, I would 

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never like. 
Those are all I need, honestly. 

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They happen together, too. 
But in 2017, he did win the Tony

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Award for the best actor in a 
musical for this, for this. 

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He's one of the youngest 
actually to ever win a Tony in 

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this category. 
So that was a big deal. 

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So if people know the musical 
songs like Waving Through a 

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Window and You Will Be Found are
huge parts of the plot, but also

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just like you can you get his 
like energy? 

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His yes, it's like nepotism, but
he has talent, like insane 

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talent, you know what I mean? 
It really is just like you can 

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see it in those songs or you can
hear it in those songs. 

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I guess Waving Through a Window 
and You Will Be Found are huge 

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ones from the musical. 
He's just incredible, I feel 

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like. 
I'm sorry. 

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No, go ahead. 
I was just going to say that I 

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feel like nepotism is and can be
a problem, like especially if 

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somebody is undeserving of the 
role or, you know, whatever it 

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may be, like they it purely was 
just because they had the right 

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connection and you know, 
whatever. 

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But I feel like, and sometimes 
people are too harshly 

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criticized for being a nipple 
baby. 

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And I feel like this sounds like
an instance of that. 

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And it's just like, if you think
about it, if you grew up 

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surrounded by like his because 
his dad, you know, did such. 

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It was in Hollywood, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And like he was probably 
surrounded by music all the time

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and like that's, you know, it 
was just like a passion that was

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passed down in the generations. 
And so like, yeah, it makes 

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sense that he. 
Has a knack for that, you know. 

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Yes, yes, totally, cuz he can 
like back up his talent like 

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he's Got Talent, he's got insane
talent. 

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His his voice is one, yeah, one 
to be studied. 

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And yes, he grew up with this 
around him, but also like he 

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also put in the work for it all.
Yeah, I think at least. 

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Yeah, and I'm not saying that he
didn't do the work. 

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It's just more of like he was 
surrounded by it. 

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And so he wanted to put in that 
work and like he. 

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Yeah, I just shared that passion
with his family, it sounds like.

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And possibly some genetics too 
if his dad was a good singer 

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too. 
I don't know if he was, but. 

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I don't know if he was either, 
but either way, like, yeah, he 

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grew up around it. 
What, Like he can't control 

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that, you know? 
Yeah. 

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And then he, like, latched onto 
it. 

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And but he's proven himself. 
I think is like, the part that 

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people have a hard time with is 
the nepotism and whatever. 

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But it's like, yeah. 
But he's like put in the work. 

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And yes, he's very privileged, 
like, to have this musical that 

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he started and whatnot. 
But like, he didn't get it just 

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because of his name. 
He got it because of his talent.

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Yeah. 
Because that's a very, like, 

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touchy subject. 
Touchy subject. 

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But they'll also pick. 
They will. 

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It doesn't matter who you are in
Broadway a lot of the time. 

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That's actually like, there's 
like a caveat there. 

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But I just mean, like he proved 
that he was the best actor for 

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this particular role. 
And I just, I can't even picture

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anyone else in this role. 
So then later on when they do 

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the movie, which is I think it 
was like 2022, so or 2021. 

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So that's what, five years 
later, he's even older. 

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And so there's more backlash 
about him playing a high school 

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student. 
But again, it is what it is 

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like, you know, I mean, I feel 
like 25 year old plus are 

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playing high school students all
the time in media. 

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So anyway, but everything really
changed during his Dear Evan 

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Hansen time. 
Like I mentioned, he got like 

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the Tony Award. 
There's like these very just 

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like iconic songs. 
For me, it was like he defined a

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generation of theater fans and 
like during that time was 

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similar to when Hamilton came 
out. 

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And that was like, I always 
loved musicals. 

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All my favorite movies are 
musicals, but I had like an 

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intense focus, some would say a 
hyper fixation about Hamilton 

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and deer, Evan Hansen and 
actually in terms of like 

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crossover, Lin Manuel Miranda, 
who is do you know who? 

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He is, yes, I do. 
But OK, you can actually play it

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for anybody. 
Yeah. 

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I just want to make sure he is a
well, my favorite musical of all

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time is In the Heights, which he
was his first one that he wrote 

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and produced and was starring 
in. 

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And then he went to Hamilton, 
which is widely, you know, 

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known. 
And Moana. 

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And Moana, yes. 
And a lot of other stuff, but I 

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just feel like that's another 
really big one, you know? 

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That's a big one. 
Yeah. 

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The first movie, yeah. 
He wrote all the music there. 

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If you watched His Dark 
Materials, did you ever watch 

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that? 
I'm just going to. 

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Have to start a list here of I 
know I need to watch. 

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I never heard of this is crazy. 
I could talk about each of. 

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These, I know I could talk about
each of these for hours, but Lin

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Manuel Miranda, he played Lee 
Scoresby in His Dark Materials, 

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which is like a kind of a minor 
role, but like, I just love what

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he brought to it. 
And it was very like, seeing him

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act again was a big deal. 
Anyway, I could go on. 

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And so him and Ben did a 
crossover song of Dear Evan 

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Hansen, and I think it was 
something from Hamilton. 

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They like merge songs and like 
sang each other's parts. 

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That sounds fun. 
It was great. 

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And I actually have a playlist 
on my film that's called Dear 

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Evan Hamilton because it's a mix
of Hamilton and Dear Evan Hansen

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and because it's just like, oh, 
this, this was just like a time 

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of I just was very, very in 
love. 

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And I still am. 
But like, you know, at the time 

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I was very like intense about 
it. 

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I guess this is the best way I 
can say it. 

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Big deal. 
Broadway. 

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Ben Platt was in the musical for
a long time. 

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After that he went into TVA 
little bit more. 

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So he was in the show called The
Politician, which had one of 

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Paltrow as well. 
It was created by Ryan Murphy. 

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Who's Gosh Ryan Murphy's 
American Horror Story. 

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Yeah, no. 
Is he an American? 

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Horror Story. 
He's like a director. 

454
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Like a producer. 
Yeah, writer, director and 

455
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,360
producer for a lot of these 
shows. 

456
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:09,040
So like American Horror Story, 
Glee also. 

457
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,200
Two very different vibes. 
I know, right? 

458
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,040
And monster, if you if you watch
that, which is a part of the Ed 

459
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Gein story, like, and Jeffrey 
Dahmer, never heard of them. 

460
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,600
And but he's like one that makes
these stories as well. 

461
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,440
And yeah, like American Horror 
stories, big one. 

462
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,760
Anyway, the big thing was just 
like Ben got this role, like a 

463
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,080
main role in the show called The
Politician that was directed by 

464
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,400
him, created by Ryan Murphy. 
It didn't last very long though,

465
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,200
unfortunately. 
So 2019-2020, I loved it and 

466
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,000
even aside from like my 
obsession with Ben Platt, it was

467
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040
just an interesting story. 
So it's on Netflix, I'm pretty 

468
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,000
sure. 
So if you are. 

469
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520
Again, I gotta write down on my 
little list. 

470
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,840
Over here, Yeah, Yeah. 
And then in 2021 is when the 

471
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,160
movie Dear Evan Hansen came out,
and it's like a representation 

472
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,840
of the musical, essentially, and
he reprises the role of Evan 

473
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,400
Hansen. 
And that's where some 

474
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,440
controversy comes out about his 
age and all that, being a high 

475
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,120
school student and whether it 
worked essentially. 

476
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,600
Yeah. 
So. 

477
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,920
Did you like the movie Just. 
A good question. 

478
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,400
I liked the musical more than 
the movie. 

479
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,880
OK, I will say that because I 
saw the musical. 

480
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,200
That's what I was also going to 
ask him. 

481
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,400
Not with him, but. 
Where did you see it? 

482
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,000
In Chicago. 
OK. 

483
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,680
I think the story speaks for 
itself for a lot of it. 

484
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:48,000
But have I watched bootlegged 
versions of Ben Platt playing 

485
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240
the main character on YouTube? 
Yeah, I have. 

486
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,800
Nice. 
Yeah. 

487
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,960
And I think that he does an 
insane job. 

488
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,480
And the movie was good. 
You know, when you see or you 

489
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
read a book and then they make 
it into a show or a movie and 

490
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,520
it's just didn't quite hit 
right. 

491
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,440
But it was decent. 
Yeah. 

492
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,960
That's what I feel about, you 
know, like, that's what I feel 

493
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,840
about this. 
But I think it's worth a watch 

494
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,840
for sure. 
He would have to almost shut 

495
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,760
down before each performance for
three hours before because it's 

496
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,600
a very emotional part. 
It's a very again, it it it 

497
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,720
revolves around like, lies and 
suicide and all of that. 

498
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,040
And he couldn't talk to people 
for hours before because he put 

499
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,440
so much into that character and 
to play that and whatnot, it's a

500
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,160
heavy burden really. 
Let me know if you watch it 

501
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,040
because I do recommend it. 
I. 

502
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,480
Like genuinely, I'm going to 
watch that. 

503
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,280
Good OK for sure yes it's a 
really interesting story in 

504
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:53,720
general but anyway after that he
went into the solo music career 

505
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,600
essentially from there his debut
album was Sing to me instead, 

506
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,640
which was released in 2019. 
So I think that he was doing the

507
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,360
album. 
Yes, exactly. 

508
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,880
I think he was doing the album 
at the same time that the movie 

509
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,560
was being the film adaptation 
was being done. 

510
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,520
But he really leans into very 
personal introspective, you 

511
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,280
know, sort of pop, but it's a 
variety. 

512
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,120
There are some really slow songs
that are like wonderful and 

513
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,360
there's some really fast songs, 
you know, like a dancy songs 

514
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:28,320
Peach and I as part of our 
wedding, I picked out this song 

515
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,880
called Imagine by Ben Platt, 
which it's on his next album, 

516
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,760
which is called Reverie, but 
there's really good songs on 

517
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960
sing to me instead. 
His his solo album like bad 

518
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,880
Habit is great Grow as we Go, 
which is very like, yeah, it's 

519
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,760
very personal for people that I 
feel like have been in very 

520
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,640
solid relationship of just being
like, we're going to keep going 

521
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,320
and whatever that means for you 
is I'm going to be there for 

522
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,600
you. 
It's a very We're gonna grow as 

523
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,080
we go. 
Oh, I see. 

524
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Yeah, Like, yeah. 
Yeah. 

525
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,000
Very cute. 
And there's some, like, fun ones

526
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,800
like Share Your Dress is a good 
one. 

527
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000
And this is like when he started
dating his now husband, Noah 

528
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Galvin, who also was, I think, 
like the second or third Evan 

529
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,040
Hansen in the Broadway musical. 
Yeah, I know. 

530
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,160
So, yeah, Ben originated the 
role, but Noah Galvin is also an

531
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,600
incredible singer, musician, 
actor and all of that. 

532
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,120
That him and then one other 
person that played Evan Hansen. 

533
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,480
They did the joint music video 
and it was so good. 

534
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,440
I have to like, send you all of 
these, I swear. 

535
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,680
But anyway, in my head it's 
like, oh, they met on set and 

536
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
then but now they're married. 
You know, like they both. 

537
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Played Evan Hansen. 
They started dating after he got

538
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,960
the role, not before. 
Because I know it would be 

539
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,720
another like situation. 
Well, right where he got. 

540
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720
The job because it's like, well,
my husband. 

541
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,440
No, it was, Yeah, It was after 
because. 

542
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Yeah. 
Because Ben originated it. 

543
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,520
And then I think Noah came a few
years after that, basically 

544
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,160
playing Evan Hansen. 
Yeah. 

545
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,160
But they both, like, had this 
shared, you know? 

546
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Yeah. 
Experience. 

547
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,360
This this collaboration video 
that you're talking about 

548
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:24,760
reminds me of when Steve and Joe
and Josh from All the Blues 

549
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Clues get together. 
Exactly. 

550
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240
That's such a good way to put it
like that. 

551
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,400
I love it. 
My nerdy ass getting so excited.

552
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,880
No, that's 100% exactly what it 
felt like. 

553
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,080
It was like, yeah, they just 
went like dancing in the street.

554
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Steve and Josh got married. 
You know, yeah, so cute. 

555
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Yeah. 
Oh, gosh, I love that. 

556
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,960
That's 100% what it is. 
I can feel like I can just like 

557
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240
put the two next to each other 
and be like, it's the same 

558
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,680
thing. 
It's the same picture, you know.

559
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Anyway, so his first album was 
Sing to Me instead, 2019. 

560
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,880
It debuted into the top 20 on 
the Billboard 200. 

561
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,640
His second album, the one that 
me and huge well, again, I 

562
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,520
selected it for us for our 
wedding was called Reverie and a

563
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400
little bit more expansive. 
And that was 2021. 

564
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,960
And then God, like I can't 
describe like there's no way to 

565
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,160
describe his voice, his like 
vocal control, his depth, his 

566
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,360
like variety of it all is 
impossible to describe. 

567
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,640
It's insane. 
He's so talented is that's why 

568
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,000
like I'm so obsessed with him is
like he's very talented, but 

569
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,800
also just like a good person 
too. 

570
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,280
And yeah, so he did this other 
album, Reverie. 

571
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,160
I was fangirling for a moment 
there, but imagine is is I 

572
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720
actually was just watching 
before we recorded because I 

573
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800
recorded our wedding ceremony 
like our elopement. 

574
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360
And it was the song that we came
like after we were married. 

575
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400
It wasn't like there was like a 
lot of people, but that I have 

576
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,840
just. 
Like, yeah, we did too. 

577
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320
Exactly. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

578
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240
And it's just like, I can't 
imagine My life without You is 

579
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,680
like the main part of the song. 
And yeah, listen to that as 

580
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,160
well. 
And 2022 is when I saw him with 

581
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,120
my sisters. 
I think it was in Chicago. 

582
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,000
He was doing the Reverie tour, 
which is where I got my shirt 

583
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,920
from that shirt. 
And I have a poster framed and 

584
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,800
hung up in my eyes this as well 
of him, because he's he's gay. 

585
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:44,000
But yeah, surprise. 
Didn't mean to throw that at 

586
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,720
you. 
No, he's he's gay, but like God,

587
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400
he's attractive. 
I feel like I need to see him in

588
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,840
like a different role than the 
roommate from Pitch Perfect 

589
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,920
because. 
No, he's nerdy and he's just 

590
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,560
connect and. 
Then it's like I I married a 

591
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
nerd. 
I'm not against nerds, but it's 

592
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280
more of like it. 
It just wasn't like an 

593
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
attractive. 
Yes, I hear you. 

594
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,360
I will. 
Say so I need to like. 

595
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Yeah, can I grab my poster? 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

596
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Please do it OK. 
Picture me. 

597
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Picture me dancing with this 
freaking poster. 

598
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Like being trying to like 
wrinkle it and whatever the. 

599
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,640
Oh, cuz you were like holding 
at. 

600
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,480
It like right away and I was 
holding it. 

601
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,720
Oh my gosh. 
See. 

602
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,960
Yeah, OK, I get it. 
That's better. 

603
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,320
It's a it's a nice picture of 
him. 

604
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,360
It's a nice picture of him. 
Yeah, 2022. 

605
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,000
So are your sisters fans as well
or did they just kind of go like

606
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
for you? 
I think so. 

607
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Katie definitely is a fan 
because we are the two big 

608
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,960
musical nerds and the others I 
think kind of came along for the

609
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,600
ride OK, but are now fans 
because gotcha. 

610
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,320
There's also Oh my God, he does 
like a cover of Lady Gaga's You 

611
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,720
and I. 
Oh I love that song and I love a

612
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080
good cover. 
Gonna add that to my list of 

613
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,120
things I need to. 
Check out. 

614
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,920
I did like, like I literally 
need like, that is my. 

615
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,040
That's like. 
I just listened to that song 

616
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,960
today too because Leon always 
tells Alexa to play Lady Gaga 

617
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,880
and so we were just listening to
a ton of Lady Gaga today. 

618
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,560
Oh my God. 
And he's like wearing like 

619
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,159
eyeliner in this. 
And again, he's gay like he's 

620
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,280
never gonna marry me, and that's
fine. 

621
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,800
And. 
That's why. 

622
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Yeah. 
Yeah, exactly. 

623
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,719
If he was straight, he becomes 
right to you. 

624
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Yeah, exactly. 
But when me and my sisters get 

625
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,000
together, this is like our right
before we go out to like if 

626
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
we're going to like the bars or 
dinner or something like that. 

627
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,760
Like this is our song that we 
play. 

628
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,120
I'm going to send it to you just
so you can watch it. 

629
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,360
Like this is like out of 
everything that I've said so 

630
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,440
far, this is it. 
Like this? 

631
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,280
Is and this is the you and I 
cover or this is the you? 

632
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,719
And I cover, yeah, the you and I
cover, OK. 

633
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,800
I'm. 
Excited and I think it really 

634
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,600
shows his vocal performance, but
also just his creativity and 

635
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,520
it's just a hype up song is with
Lady Gaga as well. 

636
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960
But like, yeah, he does it 
really good. 

637
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Yeah. 
So his solo career he had the 

638
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,720
two albums. 
He's also done a concert 

639
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,960
residence. 
Like he's the main performer for

640
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,120
multiple days in a row at Radio 
City Music Hall. 

641
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,200
He brought out like some big 
people as well with him to like 

642
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,120
sing and like just sing together
really. 

643
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,200
So it's, oh gosh, it's just like
such a is. 

644
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,680
That when him and Cynthia got 
together. 

645
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,640
Yes, him and Cynthia, Jeff 
Goldblum, who else are I think I

646
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,720
already Jeff. 
Goldblum. 

647
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Yeah, wait, Jeff Goldblum from 
Wicked, he plays the Wizard and 

648
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,320
also he's in. 
Well, OK, I haven't seen the 

649
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,720
movie yet. 
The first one or both? 

650
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,800
Both of them I haven't seen the 
movies. 

651
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,600
I think you did tell me that 
time. 

652
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,080
About this. 
On the I know, but I'm just, I'm

653
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,720
just getting more upset about 
it. 

654
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Well, hey, I'm just waiting so 
we can have a momentous occasion

655
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120
to watch them together. 
Ariel OK, OK. 

656
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,440
It's OK. 
It's up to me. 

657
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Kind of kidding, but also 
anyways I don't think I really 

658
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,640
realized that he like sang in 
the movie and now I'm like 

659
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,040
trying to even remember the 
whole play because I can't 

660
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,040
remember the wizard singing. 
But it makes sense that the 

661
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,760
wizard sings. 
He's got like 1 main song. 

662
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,800
But also Jeff anyway is not a 
singer. 

663
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,840
Yeah. 
OK, that's, that's what I'm 

664
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,560
getting at here. 
Yeah, I'm like, wait, Jeff 

665
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Goldblum Sings the guy from 
Jurassic Park. 

666
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,280
Yes, exactly. 
I yeah, I have thoughts about 

667
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,920
his casting in Wicked, but I 
will. 

668
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,080
I feel like character wise it 
makes sense. 

669
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,360
Personality and all that. 
Yeah, personality matches. 

670
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,640
But yeah, if it's a Broadway 
production, you should have a 

671
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,480
good singer there, so. 
Yes, yes, agreed. 

672
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,280
And there's no lack of those so.
Yeah, yeah. 

673
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,800
I I have thoughts. 
I think Cynthia, I think Ariana 

674
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:13,520
surprisingly was incredible. 
Like, not surprisingly, but I 

675
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,240
kind of had like low 
expectations. 

676
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Yeah. 
You know, like to also play like

677
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,120
I knew she was a good singer, 
but also like to play the part 

678
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,880
was an interesting thing. 
Yeah, that's great. 

679
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,880
But Jeff Goldblum plays the 
wizard in the movie. 

680
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,480
And so, yeah, Ben did the series
of each night was a different 

681
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,640
collaborator. 
Essentially, he's like the main 

682
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640
1 singing and it's his music, 
but it's also Broadway music. 

683
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,280
Rachel Zeigler, who played Snow 
White in the Snow White live 

684
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
action, she came out on stage 
with him. 

685
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:49,600
And now Ben and Rachel are 
playing in the musical the Last 

686
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,560
Five Years, which is a decent. 
I like the musical, I like the 

687
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,880
music from it. 
The story's kind of sad, but I 

688
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,280
think it's in the London 
Broadway space. 

689
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,880
What's it called? 
The West End? 

690
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Sorry God, I feel like such a 
bad fan because I'm like 

691
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,360
blanking on all these things. 
That's how I. 

692
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Felt during the AJR episode too.
I was just like, I'm a poser 

693
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,880
right now. 
It's like. 

694
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680
But I swear, I know it. 
I know it's different. 

695
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Levels and you can't know 
everything and then you're then 

696
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,800
you're like a groupie at that 
point. 

697
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,920
I don't know, no. 
No, I feel the same way as like,

698
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,640
God, I know this stuff like on 
my normal day today, every day. 

699
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:32,040
So yeah, Rachel Zegler, she has 
her own controversy, but she's 

700
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520
an incredible singer and 
incredible actor as well. 

701
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,640
They both have this like, I 
don't want to say the bad 

702
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,760
breath, but in the Broadway 
space, like there's there's 

703
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,760
controversy around them. 
And at the same time, like 

704
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,520
they're both incredible. 
Oh, so they're going to be 

705
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,600
playing actually at the London 
Palladium that's coming out. 

706
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,840
So March 24th through the 29th 
so far is it's the 25th 

707
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,680
anniversary of this musical 
called The Last five years. 

708
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Like I mentioned, if you saw the
new movie of West Side Story, 

709
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:10,760
West Side Story, so Rachel, who 
is going to star opposite Ben in

710
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,320
this play coming up in the next 
month is, like I said, also from

711
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Evita. 
She's from the Snow White film 

712
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,360
adaptation, which I never saw 
actually. 

713
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,480
But then also she's been in so 
much. 

714
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,400
She's been in Les Miserables and
all that. 

715
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,400
Anyway, they're playing these 
characters opposite each other 

716
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,600
than Rachel. 
And Rachel also played a huge 

717
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080
part in West Side Story when 
they redid that a couple years 

718
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,800
ago too. 
But I think like he's just 

719
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,280
continuing to do these things 
that he loves, which is also 

720
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,160
where like that nepotism is for 
me harder to equate. 

721
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Like he's got the talent to back
it up essentially. 

722
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,400
So he's. 
Keeps got. 

723
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,880
Magic. 
Exactly. 

724
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,440
He's got him. 
Magic in him. 

725
00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,440
Exactly. 
Exactly. 

726
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,760
Yeah. 
So he's openly gay. 

727
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,320
He's outspoken about his 
identity. 

728
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,240
He's married, continues to just 
keep like, I guess, Yeah. 

729
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,880
Growing in terms of not just 
Broadway, but film and music. 

730
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,520
And television and all of that, 
I'm just excited to see where he

731
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,160
continues to go. 
So whether you see him as like a

732
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,280
generational talent, theatre 
talent, OR if you are trying to 

733
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,640
be like putting him in like 
where you see him the most, like

734
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,640
polarizing his casting choice or
like where he's going to be cast

735
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,520
and whatever. 
Or if it's like a crossover of 

736
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:40,160
all that, it's no matter what he
does, he's just like undeniably 

737
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,720
talented. 
And he has such a huge impact on

738
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,040
modern musical theater. 
And his dad has a huge impact on

739
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,400
the industry as well with movies
and everything. 

740
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,360
There's so much to to him and, 
and his siblings, there's a few 

741
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,640
of them that are also musical. 
But yeah, it's just, Oh yeah, 

742
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,760
look him up. 
He's he's, I don't know, he's a 

743
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,480
great. 
Guy. 

744
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,800
He's a great guy if I know him. 
Yeah, he's just like a, it's 

745
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
like Cynthia Revo. 
Like we're not going to have 

746
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,400
somebody else like her for a bit
because she's insane and he's 

747
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800
insane. 
He's almost he's almost an EGOT 

748
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,320
as well, which is a. 
Do you know what that is? 

749
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:27,800
I do not, You've informed me. 
OK, so an EGOT is somebody who 

750
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,520
has an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar,
and a Tony. 

751
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,000
So all four. 
So like that's a big deal. 

752
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,760
He has like 3 of the four. 
So he won a Tony, a Grammy and 

753
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,560
an Emmy so far. 
So he's just. 

754
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,360
Waiting. 
He's an egg. 

755
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,840
Yes, exactly, exactly. 
He's waiting for an Oscar. 

756
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,480
And so part of when the movie 
came out, they thought maybe he 

757
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,120
would be nominated for an Oscar,
and he wasn't. 

758
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,600
Which is like, yes, but he's one
away from being an EGOT, which 

759
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,040
is like a huge deal. 
Like who? 

760
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Like, how many people are 
actually Egots? 

761
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,880
It's like, not that many. 
Yeah. 

762
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,880
Can you Google that for us? 
Yep. 

763
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,520
I'm Googling it as well. 
John Legend I think is yeah, 

764
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,280
there's like a handful. 
Whoopi Goldberg is John. 

765
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,240
Yeah. 
John Legend, Alan Menken, who 

766
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:20,360
did a lot of Disney stuff like 
Little Mermaid, Beauty and Beast

767
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,960
and Aladdin and Pocahontas. 
He's an E got. 

768
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,520
The composers and producers of 
Dear Evan Hansen are Benj Pasek 

769
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,040
and Justin Paul. 
They go by Pasek and Paul. 

770
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,920
They're like a duo. 
They are the ones that came up 

771
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,600
with like the storyline and just
wrote it all for Dear Evan 

772
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,800
Hansen. 
And they are both egots as well.

773
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,400
Yeah. 
Steven Spielberg as well. 

774
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Anyway, I could, I could keep 
going. 

775
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,800
I just wanted like, like I 
wanted something that I was 

776
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,120
like, excited about. 
Yeah. 

777
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,720
It's fun for me. 
It's yeah. 

778
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,840
Like I literally can't believe 
that, but after all this 

779
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,200
reconnecting I don't think you 
mentioned this man once. 

780
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,320
Yeah. 
It's like it's just one of those

781
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,920
things where it's just like, 
there's still so much to 

782
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,240
uncover, I guess, but it's just 
like, yeah. 

783
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,960
Yeah, yeah. 
But yeah, I mean, I believe you.

784
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,400
It's clear that that this is a 
hyper fixation. 

785
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,000
It is. 
It is. 

786
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Sorry, Elton John. 
As well as a meeting. 

787
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,040
OK, anyway, look him up whether 
you're looking for a TV show 

788
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,480
like The Politician or. 
I'm gonna start with Dear Evan 

789
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Hansen. 
Like, to the point that I might 

790
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,320
watch it tonight. 
I don't know. 

791
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,960
Do it. 
We'll see. 

792
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,160
Let me know. 
Let me know if you do. 

793
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Yeah. 
It's such an interesting story. 

794
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,840
So, yeah. 
OK, that's all. 

795
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,800
I just had to. 
And that's all. 

796
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,480
And that's it. 
The end. 

797
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,480
Well, that was fine. 
Thank you for informing us about

798
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Ben Platt. 
I'm excited to check out his 

799
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,240
work for sure. 
And I hope that all you 

800
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:55,320
listeners check it out as well. 
And let us know if you, I don't 

801
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,280
know if you're familiar with any
of his work or I don't know 

802
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,400
what's like another good 
question they could answer. 

803
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,120
I guess like if you know him 
from musicals versus his solo 

804
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,600
versus his TV stuff would be 
sure you know or if you know him

805
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,680
at all, like is it one of those 
three, I guess? 

806
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,720
And then tell us also what 
you're hyper fixated on. 

807
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Drop it in the comments, TMS or 
e-mail. 

808
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,120
We have all the socials, so 
TikTok, Instagram, we're on 

809
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,280
YouTube, Spotify, Apple 
Podcasts, Amazon, all the 

810
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,520
things. 
Facebook. 

811
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Yep. 
Yeah, we have Facebook too. 

812
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,760
And Erin, something that I was 
thinking might be fun is if we 

813
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,960
started to read a comment during
the show. 

814
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Let's do it. 
Because we've been receiving 

815
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,600
some funny comments. 
Yeah, some. 

816
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Funny comments on like Tik Toks 
and Instagrams. 

817
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,240
Yeah, someone told Erin she's 
allowed to say poop. 

818
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,720
From the Binturong episode, 
which is fair, right? 

819
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,200
I don't know why I'm like, weird
about it. 

820
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,520
Yes, let's read some comments. 
Yeah, and that was also why I 

821
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,720
kind of brought up the comment 
earlier when I was talking about

822
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,720
AJR cuz it's, I don't know, we 
are getting some comments here 

823
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,120
and there and I think it would 
be fun to read them. 

824
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,600
So maybe you can start that next
week. 

825
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,440
I love it. 
OK do you have a hint for your 

826
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,480
topic cuz I'm or do you guess 
what? 

827
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,160
I don't know at all. 
OK, that makes me feel a lot 

828
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,000
better. 
Yeah. 

829
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,760
I was like, oh, I was like 
thinking about it today cuz I 

830
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,680
was like, oh wait, I have to 
look at what I'm gonna talk 

831
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,760
about. 
I have to research this week. 

832
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,920
Oh God. 
Yeah. 

833
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,880
I've just been, like, very busy 
and yeah, yeah. 

834
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,400
So that's it. 
So I don't know. 

835
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200
So we'll find out next week what
the topic's gonna be. 

836
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,920
But until then, everybody, 
embrace the spiral, stay 

837
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,960
curious, and we'll see you next 
time. 

838
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,680
Bye. 
Aaron and Danny, 2, lifelong 

839
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,080
best friend.
